Right About Now - Legendary Business Advice - Casey Webb - Man vs.Food

Episode Date: July 5, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I was in the offices, at the production offices, and it was a contract, and it said Big Eats. Second page said Big Eats. Third page said, man versus food. I was like, I got to call somebody. Call my mom. I didn't have a lawyer. Call a lawyer. You have a lawyer?
Starting point is 00:00:15 The beauty about it is the fun folks in production and the producers that write copy. They've, as a result of doing the show for as long as we have these 90 episodes, they've started to write in how I speak. The fact that someone would take a moment out of their day and, like, say a nice thing. like there's not enough of that in the world or maybe there is and I just I appreciate that so much and I would never not want someone to come up you know because I'm a I could I totally fan out too you're listening to the radcast if it's radical we cover it here's your host Ryan Alford hey guys welcome to the latest edition of the radcast we're talking food today my friend we're going
Starting point is 00:01:01 Battling with food, man versus food. I've got actor-comedian, host of man versus food, Casey Webb. What's up, Casey? How are we doing, brother? Great, man. I'm trying to contain my excitement. I get depressed watching many things on TV, which is why I don't watch much TV, but I have like three go-toes, and man versus food is like at the top of the list.
Starting point is 00:01:30 So, thank you for saying. So I, you know, I do appreciate hearing that because like I, in the beginning, I had no idea who was watching. I just figured it was just dudes like me that ate food all the time, you know, but I couldn't have been more wrong because it's, you know, it's kids, it's parents. It's, it's, it's dudes like me. It's, you know, it's, it's, it's a, it's a vast group of people that watch a show. And that was really humbling. And that's probably one of the reasons why I've continued to do so because, you know, it's not just. just, it's not just dudes like me that like the show.
Starting point is 00:02:06 No, it's a lot of people. Especially kids. Yeah. And I told you, we, you know, we messaged on social media like everybody else does, you know. And I told you and, you know, my kids and I was like our Saturday morning, literally you're watching this past weekend. We're on the boat and watching, you know, reruns of man versus food. And I'm like, he's going to be on the show.
Starting point is 00:02:26 They're like, yeah. If I can make a kid laugh, I feel like I'm doing my job. If I can make an adult laugh, that's a just. the bonus, right? Because, you know, and what's fun about the show is, like, some of the adults get the adult jokes and the kids get the kids jokes, you know, and it's like, I pride myself. It's kind of like a Warner Brothers cartoon from the, you know, for my generation, just, just, and being silly like a kid. So, you know, it brings me a great deal of joy knowing that, you know, people can have a laugh or, and, you know, the coolest thing, you know, is like a parent first reached out in like the first
Starting point is 00:03:00 season of the show. And he's like, you know what? We really love the show. because we could turn it on and it's safe. Yeah. You know, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no found language. There's no, it's food. It's food and fun. And there's a bit of competition there too. And like, I don't always win, which is great because, you know, if I want every one,
Starting point is 00:03:19 then what kind of show is that too? And I'm trying. It's not with the lack of trying. It's just clearly. The reality is sometimes I just don't win. You know, I'd like to consider myself the underdog in that scenario. like the husky i call myself um husky balboa like rocky bowler just sometimes it wins sometimes i lose i know but like i can't think um you know you're so endearing though on tv i will say that like
Starting point is 00:03:45 there's like this you know you're rooting for you but like there's the comedy because you're obviously a comedian you're funny guy and then but there's an endearing quality to you that i think makes it easy television for sure yeah it's funny how my career started because I, you know, I started doing voiceovers and commercial. I was doing theater and stand up and improv, but when I, like, got onto camera and to doing voiceovers, I was either doing voiceovers or I was doing on-camera commercials where I didn't say anything in the commercial or it was my voice on the voiceover. It took a little while for me to bridge the gap and do both.
Starting point is 00:04:22 So with the show, it really bridges the gap and I could, I could do both, you know, I could say silly things. And I do, you know, I, I, I, I, I've been told that. I have a funny face. So in a good way. You do. I mean, you look, there's like a, I don't even know what I'd compare it.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I don't know if it's like the John Candy meets something else. I don't know what. Totally. I don't know. When I'm heavier, I get Chris, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:47 You look lighter now or something. Not as funny as farley and not as fat as, or no, in that way, it was it not as funny as feral and not as fat as farley. Yeah. Yeah, all right. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Pretty damn funny. No, I know. I'm just kidding. Thanks, man. Casey, let's back up. I, you know, just like you and taking on the food challenges. I want to, like, dive in, like immediately. But I do want, because I think people are fascinated, you know, like, you know, to kind of hear your journey a bit.
Starting point is 00:05:17 We all think, mistakenly, that, oh, it just all, you know, comes perfect. Like, I'm sure it was just this easy path. Something tells me, and I don't even know your full story. It's never as easy as it seems. seems to kind of get to, you know, where you are with a show like this. But let's talk about a little bit of that journey. I, so with acting, I started late in life. I, I went to playing football. I was playing football in high school, went off to college, and I decided to stop playing, which is the hardest thing for me to do. You know, I went away to this Division III school. I thought it was going to be like six, six,
Starting point is 00:05:55 you know, my brother's pretty tall and big. I thought I was going to be at least his height, but I wasn't but I was good I just you know I didn't I didn't make it I wasn't uh it wasn't what I thought it was going to be when I went on wanting to go to college it became work and then you know I want to taking this theater history class and the school and um which I later was abruptly asked to maybe I should I should probably move on from that school um as it happens uh but it was this theater history class and I was like just so kind of enamored with like oh this is something that I could possibly do you know and some of my heroes those acting heroes guys were in the military or there were athletes first or, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:35 it was like, oh, anything's really possible because especially, and sports gave me that. They gave me, sports gave me everything, you know, the confidence, the, you know, the, you know, the mental aptitude, just to drive. So I wound up doing theater like at 18 in a community college where I had friends going to and two really close buddies. One was going to conservatory in New York City. One was getting his undergrad at school, but he was minoring in theater. And like my three closest friends somehow wind up doing theater and acting, right?
Starting point is 00:07:05 So I wound up auditioning for this play. Cold read is basically you read off a piece of paper. You don't know really what it says. You don't have time to rehearse it in front of an audience of other actors and people. And I fail. I couldn't do it. I just was so poor at it. And I, that's now when I realized, like, this is what I want to do with the rest of my life.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Like in that moment, I was like, this is so, this is. this is such a challenge that I want to I want to take this thing on so I stopped playing sports I stopped running into people with my helmet and I started doing theater and that was at 18 and that's kind of where it all started right so you know cut to you know I've spent a life pursuing it but I've left it a lot but what kept me busy in the pursuit of acting I um long before I was an actor or at least pursuing it, I started working in the restaurant business. So I think it was my father that first hand me the spatula at age 10 and taught me how to make eggs and probably for two reasons. One, not to burn myself and two, because he's tired of me asking him to make them eggs.
Starting point is 00:08:09 There we go. So yeah, so that's kind of, you know, like being in the workforce at a young age gave me the work ethic, you know, and that's kind of where that started. So quite literally, the world's collided when I got Man versus Food. Cut to many years later,
Starting point is 00:08:30 2017, I got the job of a lifetime. And as, you know, as someone who pursues acting, you can't really say no to an audition, at least not in my world, because you might not get another one.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Little did I know that this audition would lead to, you know, five years of work and other opportunities, just a ton of other opportunities. I was very fortunate prior to doing the show to do some not hosting, not reality lifestyle work, like like commercials, voiceover, on camera, some TV. And then when the show hit, I was just kind of just my whole life was kind of thrown into the stratosphere. And I started traveling the country. I mean, cut to five years later, you know, we just wrapped on our 90s. episode. We've done six seasons of the new version of Man versus Food. And yeah, it's brought me to your door.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's in a nutshell, but there's, you know, please feel free to dig into the stuff I brought up because there's other stuff in there. But, you know, one job led, one job led to five years of one job. So I, I want to casting director in New York City referred me to a casting director in L.A. and I want him getting this job working on this YouTube show. And then that director introduced me to an agent in New York City. And then that led to the audition for Man versus Food, which they told me was not Man versus Food. They told me it was another show called Big Eats. Because I thought the show was still in the air.
Starting point is 00:10:03 But in 2012, the show was up the year 2012. So this is 2017. I'm auditioning for the new Man versus Food. But they kept under wraps. And they were telling me that it was a show called Big Eats. So it wasn't until I was signing the contract in the office. A big switch. Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:10:21 You know, I guess it was such a popular show. And they had a new, you know, a new regime at the network. And they just, they couldn't really tell anybody. So lucky me, I guess. Yeah. Is, I mean, what did you do in the restaurants? You say, you know, I always, what were your, were you in the kitchen a lot? Or were you bartending?
Starting point is 00:10:44 or like what were your positions like well the first kitchen was the home kitchen and the spatula that my dad handed me and the bacon fat in a Campbell soup can you know that's what that's what the Yorkers did that's what my parents did I didn't know what that was for the longest time I was like this is gross why is there bacon fat in the freezer and a little did I know it's like the greatest thing ever if you don't keep bacon fat in your freezer in a soup can then you're missing out um but uh I I started washing dishes at 14 in a pizza place that was in my hometown. You know, my family knew their family. And, you know, 14 is a little young to be on the work in the workforce. Not in my opinion, but, you know, legally. But I still got to watch dishes. And, you know, I think of like a pizza place as almost like if you
Starting point is 00:11:32 watch Orange is the New Black or any sort of like institution show, any show where they're in prison, because there's a hierarchy of people that are working there. And some of them are criminals, you know, like more or less. There's the guys driving, you know, the guys that drive the pizza. There's the guys making the pizza. These are magical human beings. I only wanted to be the guy that made the pizza. He was like, just like a stunner.
Starting point is 00:11:55 He had a long, he's a total wizard. He had a long mustache, long hair, and he wore all white. And he was just slinging pizzas. Never talked to anybody, smoke marble cigarettes. And he's just a fascinating human being. And I was there washing the dishes, like observing this guy. You know, and they basically pay in pizza. So it was washing dishes.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And then that led to, you know, being a busboy, you know, being then eventually a food runner. And then eventually, you know, back to be a dishwasher because you get demoted pretty quickly. And then, you know, in the kitchen, like prepping. So cutting all the veggies, right? And then that led to line cook. So I was able to learn along the way. And like that's, you know, and a lot of businesses that's gone away. Like my father was able to do that in his business.
Starting point is 00:12:38 He learned from starting from stay, and then he went up into management in his career. And so like the restaurant world, if you want it, it's there for you. You know, you got to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of, you know, every weekend, every holiday. But it was just something that I fell in love with. And then, you know, I was in the kitchen, line cook. And then I realized I didn't go to culinary school. I was just taught, you know, by people that were really good. And that made me good.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And then I realized that all the money is in the front of the house. So I started busting tables again, and then I started waiting tables, and then I was bartending and management, you know, that I went to wine and liquor sales. And so, you know, I pretty much run the gamut in all areas except for ownership. I never owned maybe someday. I just, I've been a little busy. Yeah. And that takes a lot of a lot of, a lot of on the ground time. You need to be, you need to be inside that brick and mortar if you're going to run into your place, it might be.
Starting point is 00:13:37 but yeah that's that's that's that's that's that's sort yeah started washing dishes that's really kind of and it just kept me going and then then I was doing that all throughout my career pursuing acting in New York City you know um which led to uh yeah which led to man versus food yeah I think everyone my first job at 14 was washing dishes at a meat and three restaurant and let me tell you it's a wonderful place to eat It's the worst place on it's hell on earth for washing dishes because you know why? Macaroni dishes that bake to the sides. It's cobbler.
Starting point is 00:14:20 It's concrete. Oh, it's concrete. Your hands get raw. Everyone that wants to have true like grit needs to wash dishes one time in their life at a restaurant. So I think the restaurant business any in general because it's really you, it's a hustle and there's a great deal of humility. and but you learn so much. There's so much to be learned there. I love how you're meeting three.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Great place to eat, but you wouldn't want to wash there. Yeah. I was like, why did I? They're willing to give me a job. Is it still legal? My dad's like, I don't know, but they were friends with the, they went to my family's church. We went to church with this family.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I'm not going to name them in case they could, you know, there's like a, by now, it's surely like it's worn out the law or whatever. You will not name names. There's a statute of limitations on you. I will not name names either. I do have a good buddy in Nashville who has Arnold's, which is meat and three, which is really quite good. And he's elevated to meat and three because I've had all kinds of eating three.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And they're amazing, right? Salt is the first ingredient and everything. Yes. And then fat and then sweet. And then, yeah. Yeah, lard. Love it. Love it though.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I mean, you know, you need a meal. Go get a meat and three, you know. So, so you try it out, how many people, how many people tried out for a man versus do you even know? Like how many people you were up against in the, I was up against food. I know that much. You know, what's interesting, I guess they, you know, coast to coast, they had auditions. And I think it started with, well, the first audition, and I know you'll appreciate this was, there was a point, I was, I was Airbnb my apartment that I rented in New York City.
Starting point is 00:16:03 and that enabled me to travel to pick up shifts and then from other bartender buddies and then crash at their place. And so long of the short, I had this, my first interview for Man versus Food, which I thought then was Big Eats in my apartment. The apartment was immaculate. I had this Italian couple that was shown up at an hour. And for the segment of that interview, she was like, oh, at the very end of it, she's like, oh, do you have the, are you prepared with the food portion of the, of the audition
Starting point is 00:16:32 or the interview. I was like, I don't remember reading that. There's nothing in my apartment. You know, it's clean, right? So I was like, just give me a second. And like, I happened to have a jar of apple pie moonshine in my refrigerator that I got from the Carolinas, and I will not name names. It wasn't, it was more than one jar in the, but there was a jar. And I basically, I picked that jar out of the fridge and I sat down. And as I'm talking to you, the same way, I spoke about moonshine for 20 minutes. And then that gave me the second audition. When I later on, an executive from the network had sat, you know, we just, we were in Minnesota during the Super Bowl several years ago when we were doing two episodes. And we were just talking.
Starting point is 00:17:19 He's like, someone had asked the question, how did you get the job? And then he answered for me, he's like, well, it was really when Casey sat down and talked about moonshover 20 minutes, we all knew that he was the guy. So I was like, I love that story. I was like, I never heard that from him. I was like, he's my, he's the executive, you know, he's the guy in charge, you know, and he's like the fact that you could just pontificate talk about Mootred. I mean, they have to say, I'm a bartender and I'm an actor. And it's like, oh, I would want to do his talk, you know, it's like all the, all the hours in detention as a kid have totally paid off.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And I wish my parents knew that when I was a kid. But, yeah, it was, it started at that bottle of Moonshine. And that's what led to the second audition. And they were overlapping because the second audition was literally, was physically in a restaurant. And so we did a mini version of the show. So we did like a kitchen beat where I'm cooking the thing with the chef. And then I do, I talk, I'm talking to guests about the food.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And then it's me trying to crush some big cheeseburger, right? And, but in the, in the course of like 30 minutes, you know, the show is 22 minutes long, but it takes three days to film it, right? So it's a 22 minute show. It takes three days. but they were overlapping us. So I don't have any idea. I never asked how many people are up for it.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But I guess they whittled it down, you know, they had to. Yeah. And you were the winner. I was the winner. But not big eats. I'm not big eats. I was right. I was in the offices at the production studio, at the production offices.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And it had, you know, it was a contract. And it said big eats. Second page said big eats. Third page said, man, versus food. I was like, no, I was like, I got to call somebody, call my mom, call I didn't have a lawyer, call a lawyer. Do you have a lawyer? It was just like, oh my God. And little did I know, you know, that, that, you know, the rest of my life would be just completely changed as a result of getting one job, two auditions, one job. I tell you this, this is a funny story. I was, so right before I booked that, I booked a commercial in, it was filmed in Panama. the country and it was essentially a spin-off it was a German real estate company and it was a
Starting point is 00:19:36 spin-off of Wolfo Wall Street so instead of spending tripled amount of money in Miami they did in Panama because they have high rises they have Lamborghinis it's a beautiful country and so they took three American actors and we went and like destroyed office buildings where they had like this mock strip club it was like it was basically Wolf of Wall Street and And it was amazing, right? It was like one of the greatest experiences I've ever had with my job, you know. I've had many as a result of doing Navrists of Food. But I, I, the day we were leaving, I couldn't find my passport.
Starting point is 00:20:12 My passport went missing. So that's a Wednesday. So Thursday, I have Thursday. And then that Friday was good Friday. The whole country shuts down on Good Friday. Even, you know, the U.S. embassy offices. So I was like, uh-oh. So if and then Monday I was flying off to do the first episode of Man versus Food.
Starting point is 00:20:33 So I didn't get home. Long was short, I wound up meeting a really great police officer who like helped me through the entire process. I got a passport and I was able to fly out on my dime, you know. I was like, I don't care. I flew first class home and I ate ice cream the whole way home. I was like so thankful that I got out of town.
Starting point is 00:20:53 But yeah, if it wasn't for that, that police officer in Panama, I probably, I would have missed the first episode of Maver's Food and maybe even fired, you know, so nobody really knows that story. That's, I keep that one tight. But it's, it's such a fascinating thing, you know, to, you never know, you know. It's like the, we, the help from others is, I don't take that lightly, you know, it's like.
Starting point is 00:21:16 So like, with my job, I feel like, you know, there's a great deal of gratification that I get from potentially helping a restaurant. And I didn't know this about restaurants, like what the show, the impact of the show would have. Yeah. Do you like my segue there? I'm going to say. I love it. Yeah. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And like, I didn't know until the show started airing that any restaurant or I'm sorry, any show that goes to any restaurant across the country, whether it be a man or suit or there's a huge bump in business. I mean, potentially 40 percent. And I'm like 40 percent. I've worked for mom and pops. A lot of them. And I work corporate. I get it. 40 percent is everything.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I mean, that, that can keep the lights on and fix. a hole in the roof. And I was like, wow, this really, really matters. And like, I didn't really think what I was doing mattered because I was crushing cheeseburgers or eating, you know, it's either huge or hot. And I was like, I don't know if I could do this anymore. This is kind of painful, you know, but there was so many pluses, you know, and like, I'll eat crow. I'll eat the silly sandwiches and the hot stuff if it's making people laugh and smile and then potentially increasing someone's business. I, you know, it's within my power to do so. And that's quite honestly, that's kind of what's kept me in it, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:27 It's like, you know, it's not the, it's, it'll probably be what I'm most known for, but it's not going to be my legacy. I'd tell you that much, you know. Right. So helping is like, is what has kind of kept me in it, you know? It's in like, and, and, and, and it actually makes an impact, you know, and I never thought some silly show as man versus food, not to call it silly, but would, would have such an impact. And people, you know, people plan their whole vacation.
Starting point is 00:22:55 vacations on shows that, you know, restaurants that we've been to on, on Man versus Food and other shows. Like, yeah, we went on vacation. We went to every place he went to. It was awesome. I was like, that's so great. I love that, you know? It's like, we actually, they have repeat business, you know. So that's one I think most proud of with the show is that, you know, it's really, it's quite honestly helping people, you know, inadvertently. And I had no clue, you know, so one thing I really appreciate about the show being, you know, in the, in the marketing, advertising and like appreciating the the dialogue and i don't know how much how much it's written for you how much you write but like the writing and the there's it is it's not lost on me like the
Starting point is 00:23:39 introes to the segment the collection of words the things that you say and you know whether sometimes it's a rhyme sometimes it's a riddle sometimes it's whatever that's not lost on me you know and i don't know this lost on the crowd either but i i i think i appreciated me from a different position being in the career that I'm in. But it's just, it's really clever and really smart. I think from the beginning, you know, there's, so part of it's scripted, all the facts and the thing that we highlight are, that's scripted. And the beauty about it is the fun folks in production and the producers that write copy.
Starting point is 00:24:17 They've, as a result of doing the show for as long as we have these 90 episodes, they've started to write in how I speak. You know, so it started off one way and it's like, oh, now it sounds more like how Casey talks. So that was really, I was like, whoa, it was like, I would say that, you know? Or like I would point out, I would like, I wouldn't really say that, you know, like, that's not something that would come out of my mouth, you know? Yeah. And so that that was super, that was just like really flattering. It was like, oh, they're writing for my voice and that.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And it's just a rare thing. It's usually like with characters or with like acting. It's like you find the voice within the character. But they were writing for my voice. So it was just kind of, it was like, oh, this is really great. And then the rest of it is improvised. So a lot of that stuff in the kitchen and be talking to folks, it's like, you know, whether it be, you know, whether it be someone in the chef in the kitchen or a little kid, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:10 it's like it's all loosely improvised. We're talking about the food that's in front of us. And I, you know, I have to, we're looking, we're mining for sound bites. Ideally, we want, you know, I'm saying a bunch of stuff. So they say it back to me. So we have a blurb for that 22-minute episode from that one restaurant, you know. Yeah. So it's fun.
Starting point is 00:25:28 How do they choose the restaurants? Like, how does that have? What's that process? So the biggest thing, it's like where are we going? Like what states have we knock on to? What cities have we knock on to? And there's a lot of folks, you know, with the, you know, with the advent of social media, people and people send in. You know, like I get tons of DMs on social.
Starting point is 00:25:50 social, like, come to the restaurant, we have a challenge. So it's really a location and working with the tourism, you know, associations of that state. Like we did a ton of episodes. We did a bunch in California. We've done, you know, several in Minnesota and Florida and a few in Jersey and New York City. And so, you know, working with the tourism bureaus.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And then what haven't we done where we've been? What's unique? You know, where hasn't the show gone and the pe? in the previous show. And so it's a lot of mining from the production office. It's a lot of them doing the research and vetting those restaurants. And just, you know, and maybe they've been on other shows, you know, because like there's other, like we've gone to places that were featured on other shows.
Starting point is 00:26:37 That happens a lot too, which is kind of fun. It's like, oh, they were here. Great. You know, like, and yeah, yeah, so it's a lot of hard work from the folks in the office. And then they're like, Casey, where do you want to go? I'm like, I want to go to Hawaii. Italy. And then we went to Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I was like, amazing. I was like, I want to go to Alaska. Then we went to Alaska. I was like, amazing. Let's go to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Then we went to Vegas. So, I mean, sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't. So yeah, I definitely throw some names in a hat, but it's,
Starting point is 00:27:06 it's a lot of that is from the production standpoint. You know, in the beginning, I was just holding off for dear life. I got off the flight from Panama. And then two days, like I had dinner with my, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:16 my girlfriend at the time. And it was like, like a first date. It was just amazing. and then I was off on a plane like two days later and then we're in Milwaukee. So yeah, in the very beginning I was just holding on for dear life. Like, I don't know what's happening. You know, it's like.
Starting point is 00:27:33 How big is a crew that travels? So we do hire locally. Okay. But typically it's our, it's our DP, Dan Akiba, who's been with us for, he's been with us since the first show, the original show. And so he's, he's, you know, he's the guy that makes the food look really sexy. He does all that stuff. And then it's our, you know, production manager who basically organizes everything, our field producer, which is basically the director and then our sound person.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Then we hire local another camera and then local PA production assistant. So it's small, small little, small little crew, small but mighty. You know, we fly in, shoot three days, fly out. So in the beginning, we were doing three and two episodes. We do three in a row and then we'd have a break and then we go out and do two. And then we would have a break and we go to three. three was insane three was a lot uh and then we stopped doing that so now it's two in a row so we'll fly out shoot three days have a day off and then shoot another three days and then go home yeah
Starting point is 00:28:30 it's it's packed with uh with food and um and yeah it's it's the cool thing is it's like i get to see these places and it flash you know i get to see them um like fire hose and put it yeah pretty much like i put a pin in it like i want to come back here you know and like i honestly I was, because I do enough work where I know well enough where we're going, but I like to be surprised, you know, like, I want to be, I want to be in awe. I want to be by, you know, by where we're going, maybe what we're specifically eating or, you know, the town or the history. Like, I want to learn from the person that's talking to me, you know, I want to discover that stuff like a kid, you know, so I keep it, you know, I keep, with fresh eyes. I really, you know, I know just enough to, you know, I know just enough to, you know, to. be able to get through this segment of the show and also improvise and work because I think there's a lot of that fun that happens in the chaos of learning
Starting point is 00:29:26 you know of discovering yeah and it's kind of a game that I play with myself it's like ah you know well you look but are you and whether it's you're acting or not you know because you're clearly a great actor but like there's there's a level of surprise that comes across that feels authentic like you know I don't have
Starting point is 00:29:47 in your eyes out of your expressions like it's like i i mean i try to that that's as real as human possible you know it's like yeah that's that's that's i guess that's kind of what i'm getting to i just i i want to be present you know i want to be i want i'm you know i'm on all i'm firing on all cylinders and i'm using every bit of you know every sense you know i'm listening i mean with the food stuff it's like by the time we get to the challenge like it's the third day it's the last hour of the third day of filming. I'm, you know, I'm like sort of fasting, drinking a lot of water or like I've already dosed myself with hot food that whole week and I'm just like ready to go, you know, like it's, it's quite, it's like almost like it's a battle. It's warfare, you know, I got to go
Starting point is 00:30:32 somewhere else, you know, to really take on that, because I'm not, I don't consider myself a pro. I'm a guy who got the job, you know, and, and I, but I try my hardest, you know, there's, there's nothing more real than that last hour because I have to try to eat it, you know, Like, you know, I just, you know, I loosen up, you know? And then it's like, you hear the bell and that's it. And then we film straight through. Like if it's a, if it's a half an hour, like in the beginning, there were like some hour challenges.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I was like, guys, like nothing happens. If I'm not done in 30 minutes, we were, we were in Billings, Montana, and it was like a steak. It was like potatoes. It was like salad. It was like 300 pounds of food. I don't even know how big it was. And like, after 30 minutes, I was like, I'm not finishing this, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:12 And like, people are cheering still and the lights are on me. You know, there's like three cameras. There's lights. People are yelling. It's like, I just want, I really, I was like, I was like hallucinating a little bit because it was like salty and crazy. And I was like, I was like, I just want a sniper rifle to take me. I just want an arrow to come in and it's like just, just to get out of your misery. I'm right. Get out of your misery.
Starting point is 00:31:33 There's no way I'm finishing this, you know. But so then we, we cut it off. It's like 30 minutes. You only get 30. Because your body stops. I don't care who you are. Like eventually with at least this body. your mind catches up with your body it's like you're done you're done you know i did wonder like
Starting point is 00:31:50 how many you're into if like three minutes in like you know there's no way like is it or do you you you know it's very surprising like because like i'll look at something and like i know over the years yeah years it's true it's been years um that like carbs i'm done like if it's like nine pancakes it's not going to happen i just like i my torso is only so big the people that really there there's a few people that always win it's typically Typically, a lot of times it's these tall leaner dudes. And there's a lot of women that went, too, and they're smaller. I don't get that.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I don't understand how it works. But the tall leaner dudes in my case, as far as guys are concerned, they just can put it down. Like, my brother can eat for days. He's like six, too. He's just eat. I'm like, where does it go? You know, I only have so much room. And even if I trained, you know, and I'm prepared, you know, there's been a handful of times,
Starting point is 00:32:39 let's say half a dozen times, if not more, where I wasn't going to finish it. And then the crowd steps in. And they start, and I'm getting chills and staves because it's a real thing. The crowd gets so into it. And they somehow, it just like, I mean, I turned it to somebody else. And then I finish the thing, you know, whether it be hot or huge. And that's what it is. And that surprised me.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Like, I'm like, oh, my, how did this even happen? Like, I was not finishing it. And then maybe, like, I burp. And then it's like, oh, okay. And finish the thing. I don't know, you know. It's such because you really, I really have to go somewhere else to do it because it's, it is like a gladiator sport, you know. You're like LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I mean, of food eating. I mean, these guys are mega athletes. Like, I'm just, you know, a silly looking guy that eats crazy food. Not to take away from my profession, but. No. Yeah, it's, yeah. No, it's, it's, yeah, it's, yeah, the crowd. honestly man it was such a powerful moment when you like it's like it's it's like Rudy you know it's yeah you can do it
Starting point is 00:33:47 you know and then and I did it you know very very surprising how that happened and that and that's the the energy in the room because it's a real thing they're really cheering um and uh that's got me over more than more more more than I would ever imagine it would what was the hardest what's the hardest food challenge I know I know you've you've had some that you've won lost and you've lost more than you've won a bunch you've lost a few like but yeah what what was just truly the hardest do you have a hardest moment is it one of the hot ones i mean the hot stuff you know i don't even how you get it i mean you must have powers for that like i have magical powers yes the so they're all hard every single one of them is difficult some of them have been maybe easier than other depending on
Starting point is 00:34:32 their weight or how hot they are because like as a result of eating hot food i now eat more hot food than i ever would have. Yeah. And I respect it, though. You have to really respect it. I mean, I grow hot peppers on my balcony. I have like 14 different kinds of hot peppers, these tiny Brazilian. That's what I'm saying. You're like LeBron James. You're prepping at all times. You've got hot peppers. You're ready. I'm ready. But, you know, it was, it's the hardest in the beginning, it was really hard because I didn't know what I was capable of. And I didn't really train. Right. So in the very beginning, the hardest ones were the first, I was the first season. That was the hardest.
Starting point is 00:35:08 because, like, I didn't know what I was getting into. I was, like, wavering whether I'm going to do this or not. I'm on the phone with my friends or my girl. I'm like, I don't know if I could do this, you know? And later it would be the hot stuff because we weren't really regulating it. And, like, chefs are putting in tincture, like, pure capsaicin, which is just basically poison. It's just fire, you know, like, there's no taste to it. And I'm like, guys.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And, like, it happened a few times where I got scorched, like, where it was just, like, it wasn't, it wasn't pleasant. you know, just the as a result, right? Eating is fine and then it's like all of a sudden, there's literal poison going through my veins. And so we had to regulate that. No pure cap station. Let's like what's, I want to, I need to know what's in it. You know, if you guys want me to continue to do the show, like,
Starting point is 00:35:55 I might die. That's fair. Like, I don't want to die. Like, I would love to do this and like, you know, but like we need to regulate it a little bit more. So then we doubt it back and we, you know, like, I know what's saying. in it. I know what's not in it. You know, and like the cap sat the pure cap station is off the show
Starting point is 00:36:12 as a result because it's there's nothing good about that. Like if you threw that in someone's face, it would burn their skin. You know what I mean? So why would why would I be eating that stuff? The hot stuff. The hot stuff. And then the super loaded carb stuff is like it's near impossible. Yeah. What about favorite? Like what's the is there any? Maybe maybe a combination of maybe the before the challenge and the challenge like favorite city. Favorite city. Favorite. at all in one is I know they're all your babies and you don't you know that's what I say about my podcast guest like I never name a favorite yeah I would never be able to name a favorite but you know I think uh as far as a food city and and and you know being in the restaurant business for my whole
Starting point is 00:36:55 life and and and hadn't never you know like I never traveled there prior to oh and that's not true I was there before but um New Orleans is such a special place it's just a special food place like because not only there's a lot of history there and there's a lot of food that comes together culturally yeah and then there's music and then the bar scene and then just the good times and you know there's there's a lot there than just food and I just love that city so much um I always joke that like I want to go into Mardi Gras and Jazz Fest this year in in New Orleans post we wrapped in Florida I went right to Mardi Gras which I probably should have gave myself a couple days off. And then months later, I went to jazz jazz just. But I, you know, New Orleans is one of
Starting point is 00:37:41 those places where I always joke that, you know, I'm in love with New York City has my heart, but I'm in love with New Orleans. But, you know, I think we were talking off camera before, like what was surprised me most and what I love about all the places that we travel is that even in the smaller markets, the smaller cities are like, you know, where the camera guys like, oh, I've been here before. You know, it's like, all right. like, I haven't, you know, let me explore this place. Not just a camera guy, but that like a lot of folks that are from, let's say, a small town, say it's like where you're at, you're in Greenville, right?
Starting point is 00:38:17 So a lot of folks left and went and became a chef or they learned how to distill spirits or became a brewer. And then they come back and then they open up their own place. And there was a lot of that around the country. It was like, whoa, this place is amazing. It's a smaller city, but like they have everything that. I love, you know. They have the music scene. They have the beer scene. They have the distiller. They have the restaurants. And like, you know, it's like, wow, I could live here. You know, and I,
Starting point is 00:38:43 quite honestly, I've been, it's like, I mean, New Jersey has everything, right? I mean, I'm on the coast. I have New York City very close. But like, I've fallen in love over and over and over again, you know, like a child with all these places that I've been to. And it's, it's, it's, it's really hard to choose. That's why I'm, I'm thankful that my job doesn't make me choose. You know, I'm able to explore and then share that with everybody else. And I hope it, you know, whatever's reflecting off of me is being soaked in, you know, because it's true. I really, you know, that like that.
Starting point is 00:39:18 My reaction to things is genuine, you know. And that's what, you know. But, yeah, I would say if I had to choose one, New Orleans is one of my favorite places on the planet. Because I just fell in love with people there. I know I've met a lot of people there. I've been back a bunch. and it's it's quick flight what's the uh i mean how how how recognized are you now like i mean you've got the expressions and everything else the show's pretty i mean it's your seven
Starting point is 00:39:51 seasons then coming into seven seasons or you know like how uh is that good bad you know like you enjoy it i uh so i was in a parking lot of a convenience store with a buddy of mine and across the street in another parking lot, some dude yelled out, kitty littered! Yeah! I love that commercial. I was in an Armandhammer, Kitty Litter commercial. That was like four seasons in the Man versus Food. And I had a hat on sunglasses, like, how did this dude even see me? Like, how on earth did he even see me in this, you know, and he like, he loved the Kitty Litter commercial. So for me, I think it's the greatest part of my gig and like truthfully like i the fact that someone wants to come up and spend time and talk
Starting point is 00:40:39 and ask about the show like it you know it's part of the gig a and like i'm usually the one they're the ones that usually walk away first like yeah we got to go and like i'm still talking like i'm excited to talk to them you know they're like all right like you're nice enough but you got to catch a flight or um you know man like like i said the fact that someone would take a moment another day and like say a nice thing like there's not enough of that in the world or maybe there is and i just i you know i i appreciate that so much and i would never not want someone to come up you know because i'm a i could i totally fan out too you know like i never was in a restaurant l.a and bill murray is like two tables next to us and my buddy and i were just talking louder so he could
Starting point is 00:41:22 hear us you know he's just eating his food he could care less but you know like i i i appreciate it and i think honestly like i got the show later in life and i was working as a production assistant and I was acting. I was bartending, working restaurants, and I had to choose acting or working production. I chose acting.
Starting point is 00:41:38 And it just, I had, I just learned by doing, you know, and it gave me the wherewithal, at least the knowledge to know. It's like, this is very fleeting,
Starting point is 00:41:49 you know, like take it for what it is. Enjoy every moment, you know, and it's really as simple as that. And I do, I do my best. And like,
Starting point is 00:41:56 sometimes you're, I'm walking through. I'm like, you know, I just shot two episodes. I'm on my way home. And I'm like, just rugged.
Starting point is 00:42:02 and somebody comes up to you and wants to talk. And, like, you know, in that moment, they get me out of my head. And they're like, hey, I'm like, hey. And it's a lot of times that TSA, TSA folks are like, they love the chat. I'm like, I'm there, you know, put my shoes back on, BS them. And I love it, man. You know, like I encourage people, you know, don't go stalking anybody. But say hi.
Starting point is 00:42:25 At least say hi, you know. What, how does it make you feel about like, you know, we talked about the little pre-episode, but like the Casey Webb personal brand like the shows put you on the map it's open up opportunities you admitted it you know everything's fleeting in life but yeah you know like I don't know it's done a lot for your personal brand I imagine you know yeah I you know and that kind of leans into you know being recognized because I haven't like the brand itself man versus food is it is just I just happen to host a show so there's no ownership over that sure and I'm totally okay with that. I think what I've been doing just naturally and organically is just kind of letting
Starting point is 00:43:06 the dust settle a little bit and figuring out what that is. You know, what Casey Webb's brand is. And, you know, I was lucky enough to have some endorsement stuff right out of the gate. You know, I spent two years with Twisted T traveling around and NASCAR races as their, you know, the grilling pro. And that was unbelievable, right? And then prior to that, I had my first national commercial, which was a mobile one commercial, which, like we had a NASCAR driver, Kevin Harbin. was in a commercial with me. And so, like, I became the NASCAR guy. Like, and like, you know, a lot of people watch the food show and like,
Starting point is 00:43:38 man versus food. So it was like, I was kind of thrown into this universe and was like, wow, this is so incredible. And I think now, you know, letting the dust settle a year or so is passed by. And it's like, where do I want to be with Casey Webb and that brand? And, you know, I'm humbled by the whole thing. So I haven't rushed it at all. Yeah. So I'm really at the, you would think that I would be way ahead of it, but I'm not.
Starting point is 00:43:59 It's really at the kind of the beginning of developing what that is because now I've had some time off. You know, like we all had some time off. And I'm thinking a lot more clear. And like, you know, the show could, it has a shelf life. You know, it's only going to go so far for myself personally too. One day I'm going to decide whether I can do it or not anymore or if I want to. And I don't want to disappoint anybody, but like the reality is. And like, what's the next thing?
Starting point is 00:44:25 And so, I mean, as long as like I'm helping people keep people's lights on. and bringing smile to people's faces, I'll do forever, you know. But as far as my personal brand, yeah, I think there's, that's TBD, because we're working on some stuff, which is really exciting. And I mean, I'd love to come back and talk to you about it later on when that stuff has come to fruition. But, and, you know, I mentioned talking to you offline about that stuff because you're the man.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Or I guess I am. I'll make you more the man. Woo! I'm back. But yeah, I'm excited. about the future of things because yeah i you know i i i i don't like sitting still and i like working so um you hear that everybody i got i got i got a request i'm in a totally i'm totally putting you no not a song please do if you were doing a you know like one of your and if you you can totally
Starting point is 00:45:20 bow out of this uh i don't like to put my guests on the spot but but you are but i am but i am we'll edit it out if we hate it but uh if uh if uh What would be the promo for the rat? You know, like one of your promos like going off or onto the air, like coming out, whatever. What would be your promo for like the radcast? Like if, you know, like I need like a man versus food type promo for the radcast. Wow. What's like what are your catch phrases?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Like what, you know, it's like you've got catch phrases on the show, right? Do I? Yeah. Come on. Catch phrases. You know, like what's the woo? You know, like the, you know, like that stuff. I throw kicks a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah, throw kicks in the air. I love doing that. Yes. I mean, definitely scream. I definitely scream. Woo-hoo. Yeah. I do.
Starting point is 00:46:13 We could develop this if you want to develop it. I think we're going to develop it. That could be our homework assignment. I think it's a great idea. I mean, I love to have like, because this will, we're going to, this is obviously that live, right?
Starting point is 00:46:25 So we'll button this up. Yeah. put a button on it putting a button on it i can see that being the intro outro like uh kacy did you know in a little bit of the coming up you know whatever it is but i don't know we'll think yeah yeah no i think i think there's yes there's plenty of room for um and i'm i'd be more than happy to do this offline yeah and where i could actually think about it i know practice to rehearse it i know i i uh you know i that would came to me in the line and uh hearing you talk But, uh, because then it's going to be corny.
Starting point is 00:47:00 It's like getting rad with Ryan on the radcast, you know, like a radio voice guy. You know, it's like sounds. We can think through it. You think through it. We'll, we'll, we'll banter around on. I'll put it down. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You want an opener for the show or a closing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:12 I don't know. I'm open to either one, which everyone feels more natural. Opener and closer. Yeah. I don't know. Um, we do a little segment called rad or fad. I'm going to give you some, some keyword topics. And in Casey's world.
Starting point is 00:47:28 and his, I don't know, future crystal ball. Yeah. So I just say rat or fed. You can add, you know, I appreciate you asking, Casey. Because most people don't ask, but then it's all, and there's no wrong way. And even when I say, you know, you can add, if I say you can add some stuff,
Starting point is 00:47:47 it becomes one word and then four paragraphs. That's what I have to add. They have a disclaimer. Yes, you're allowed to. Disclamers are allowed because everyone else has. one. Right. Yeah, it's not as black and white sometimes. It's not. It's not. You know. Rad or fad? The Metaverse. As long as it's not used to weaponize humans, I think it's, I think it's can be pretty rad. Could we see a man versus food in the Metaverse?
Starting point is 00:48:20 Man versus Metaverse? Probably. That might be our, that might be our thing. I think it's a fun place to play in, but it just needs to be regulated, controlled, especially for kids. I can see a big role. I was a kid who spent time outside. So a lot of time outside is a kid. I still do as an adult. I think there's only so much time. You should be on the metaverse.
Starting point is 00:48:40 You should be out in reality. Reality is key. Reality is key. Ding, ding, ding, my friend. As a father of four boys could agree more. Play sports or whatever. TikTok. Rad or fad.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I love the fact that, like, a kid, and it goes back to kids, or anyone for that matter has the opportunity to like to to shine you know it's like if there's a lot of sing-song dancing going on and good for you like go have fun and enjoy that i think it's i think it's pretty rad because as a kid we didn't have that opportunity and so you know little stars are popping up everywhere and you know i think it's a great avenue to for performers or for people that want to share maybe too much sometimes but um i think it's i think it's when it's used for the powers of good. I think it's rad. I see us taking Casey Webb to the
Starting point is 00:49:31 TikTok is what I see. It's not just teenagers and dances anymore. It's everybody. Oh, totally. It's everybody. Yes. I'm going to be your TikTok agent. Top Gun Maverick. Rad or fad? What I've seen, I think it could be the greatest sequel of all time.
Starting point is 00:49:49 The music, I mean, Tom Cruise, come on. And Jennifer Conley, America's sweetheart. saying. Just saying. So a rad, rad. Maverick is rad. Yes. Hey man. We're can everybody keep up with everything Casey Webb. So how do you keep up with everything Casey Webb? Casey Webb is on Instagram as I am Husky for life because that's what I am. I always will be. No matter how much, how trim I get, I will always be Husky for life. Casey's call on Twitter
Starting point is 00:50:27 Facebook, the same thing, Casey Webb. But yeah, TBD, there is a podcast on its way called Husky for Life. So that's coming to life as we speak. So look for that on your favorite podcast platform. Or if you come to New Jersey, this is where I live. So you can find me roaming around the state of New Jersey, eating. and having a good time. What's the schedule for, you know, the episodes
Starting point is 00:51:01 and everything for coming out, like, you've got stuff recorded that hasn't aired yet, correct? Exactly. So we filmed two seasons in a row. We did our fifth and sixth season. The fifth season aired, which was great. And then the sixth season is on hold just because they didn't want to release them back to back.
Starting point is 00:51:18 So it's probably going to be late summer. And then as far as the seventh season, we don't know. that's going to be determined a big merger happen between, if you follow that stuff between Discovery Network and Warner. That's the sort of the adults in the room, I guess, that care about this stuff. So things might be a little delayed with new programming,
Starting point is 00:51:40 but we're pretty confident we're going to get a seven season. So look for that and probably the late fall. Great. And I love it, man. Hey, we got to keep it going. I got to have something to watch, you know. I'm running out of shows. Right, because if you only have so many shows you watch,
Starting point is 00:51:58 and I'm one of them, we have to keep it going. Yes, we do. We'll have to figure out how to keep it going and if it doesn't keep going, you know, like. I agree. I agree, because there's a lot more Casey to go around, you know, especially after filming 90 episodes of ever since. Maybe where you don't have to challenge every food. That's what we're looking at.
Starting point is 00:52:18 We're looking at the, what is the, what's in addition to, you know, eating copious amounts of huge and hot food, you know. Yeah. Casey, man, it's been great getting to know you better. I want to stay connected. I think you're a great guy. And I think, you know, my kids love you. And we love the show.
Starting point is 00:52:38 And, you know, I couldn't be happier to have had you on the show. I really appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much for reaching out. And I look forward to, yeah, to grow in this relationship, man. And I, you know, it means a lot because, you know, it's not very often I get to talk about the things that I do outside of the show. So it's, uh, with just the show, you know. So yeah, it's good. I think it's healthy.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I think it's going to talk it out. Yeah, brother. You know. Hey, guys. Yeah, man. We really appreciate Casey Webb coming on. You know where to find him, Man versus Food. I'm Husky for Life.
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