Right About Now - Legendary Business Advice - Christopher Sean - Actor, Writer, Influencer
Episode Date: August 2, 2022Welcome back to another episode of The Radcast hosted by Ryan Alford! This weeks guest is Christopher Sean: Actor, Writer, and Influencer!Christopher Sean is best known for his role as Paul Narita on ...Days of Our Lives, and voicing Kazuda Xiono on Star Wars Resistance. Ryan and Christopher talk about the importance of social media, and how to leverage each platform for personal branding. To keep up with Christopher Sean be sure to follow him on Twitter @ChristopherSean and on Instagram @MrChristopherSeanIf you enjoyed this episode of The Radcast, let us know by visiting our website www.theradcast.com. Check out www.theradicalformula.com. Like, Share and Subscribe to our YouTube channel, or leave us a review on Apple Podcast. Be sure to keep up with all that’s radical from @ryanalford @radical_results @the.rad.cast. If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, join Ryan’s newsletter https://ryanalford.com/newsletter/ to get Ferrari level advice daily for FREE. Learn how to build a 7 figure business from your personal brand by signing up for a FREE introduction to personal branding https://ryanalford.com/personalbranding. Learn more by visiting our website at www.ryanisright.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel www.youtube.com/@RightAboutNowwithRyanAlford. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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And the more better acquainted you are of people, the better you are as a person, the more people are willing to actually say, you know what?
I don't mind vetting for you and using my name as a referral to help you along the way.
And it does actually have like a psychological effect as a child because you don't ever see yourself as a hero.
And you never really see yourself as as the hero of your own story.
You always see yourself as kind of a sidekick or supporting role.
And it's not just you.
It's how society views people of color.
security guard he's like hey how are you first of Sean here's my ID and he's like nope your name's
not on the list you're not coming in you're listening to the radcast
if it's radical we cover it here's your host Ryan Alford hey guys what's up welcome to the latest
edition of the radcast we're talking stars today we're talking soaps we're talking
acting, writing, everything. Christopher Sean, welcome to the show.
Thank you very much for having me, Ryan. I'm honored, dude. You are a huge, huge deal,
and I am just a minnow in your big pond. Oh, come on, man. Star Wars. We want awards. We're writing
books. Come on, man. I'm just a guy over here running a podcast, getting a pleasure to talk to
talk to the stars like yourself.
Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Thank you very much for having me. It really is an honor. I'm really excited to get to know you a little bit more. Thank you for sharing that your mom enjoys days of our lives. You enjoy it more twice as much as her, which is really awesome.
Yes. I am a, I'm not even in the closet. I'll talk about it. Like, I'll hear, I'll get like whatever. I'm not ashamed to anything. I'm a grown man, you know. Like I can say what it is.
grew up like literally i let me tell you this christopher i literally so i was growing up i'm like 12
years old and i come home from school and i would literally my mom would be watching the replay or
we'd put in the vCR tape that where she had taped over and over again the episodes i get my
little debby cake out of the cabinet swiss cake roll uh with my juice box 12 years old 13 whatever was
something like that and i'm watching days i'm catching up on my days yes yes
man this one's a dream especially those debby cake with the zebra ones this is just the swiss cake chocolate roll with that cream or whatever i don't know
so good and then my sister would bitch at me for uh for having to clean up because i always left it in the floor so she's like i clean up after your debby cakes every day you know watching your your days are alive so there's some insider look we just gave the audience some insider tips on uh my childhood growing up watching days of our lives
So Christopher, let's back up a bit.
I want to tell, you know, I want you to tell a little bit of your story.
You've got a unique background.
I love your heritage and, you know, some of the uniqueness of that I really want to talk about.
But let's give everybody a little bit of the, I don't know, the Cliffs notes on Christopher Sean.
My father was in the Navy.
He's retired now and he became a civilian as an air traffic controller.
He met my mom while he's serving.
deployed in Yokoska, Japan, Yokoska Japan, and my two sisters and myself being the youngest,
and we traveled kind of everywhere.
Our station in Washington, Subic Bay, Japan, Mississippi, grandparents in Ohio, San Diego, and so forth,
kind of travel all over.
Southern California is home for me.
I started off in acting.
I was always kind of wanting to be an actor because my father,
being in the Navy, he would record himself on the little beta tapes.
This is predating the VCHS tapes.
He would record us on the beta tapes,
and then he would send us little videos of him reading us books.
And I remember being a kid and seeing my dad on TV,
and my dad's like, you know, reading us a little book about a bat
who was playing the both sides of the animal kingdom,
the ones that fly and the ones that are on land.
And it was like this, I can't remember the name of the actual book,
But, you know, he was kind of playing both sides.
I remember listening to that.
My dad would be like, hey, Christopher, sit down.
I was like, how do you know I'm standing?
This is crazy.
My mom would then get that camera out, and then she would record us,
and she was like, this is for your dad, so make sure you're having a good time.
So I always felt super comfortable and myself on camera.
And so growing up, I had never seen anyone kind of looking like me,
half Asian, half American on television outside of Bruce Lee and Brandon Lee, who they were taken
from us so soon, I didn't really have those types of role models. So I never really thought
this is something that I could do as much as I wanted to do my entire life. And I always,
not having someone who looked like me, didn't have that role model. So in growing up, a very, very, very
introverted, very shy person, I decided, you know what, I've got to overcome that fear and I've got to
pursue my passion, my dream, and I just got to go for it. So I got in the acting classes,
and from then on, it was kind of like, I remember holding the piece of paper shaking, barely
being able to read off of the paper. It was so nervous. And I remember saying to myself,
it was one of the most humiliating and yet freeing experiences, and I have to overcome that fear,
because I will not allow it to stop me from pursuing my passion. And from then on,
I challenged the acting coach to put me in his master's program.
He said it takes two years.
I said, give me six months and I'll get out.
And yeah, in six months' time, I was in the master's class going three days a week,
you know, four to sometimes one, two in the morning, going up and down, running scene after
scene, memorizing every single thing, doing the best that I possibly can to prepare myself
for the trials that are soap opera worlds.
I mean, you're doing, you know, my biggest week was 52 pages of dialogue, 37, 19.
team 12 and seven.
I mean, that's, you know, it was incredible.
That was just one week of work, too.
You know, that's kind of where I started, where I'm at now in a nutshell.
Yeah, man, a lot to unpack there.
It's funny how many actors I talk to or get to know are more introverted.
Like, I always expected them to be more extroverted.
I don't know what that is.
Like, I always like, they're just jovial, awkward person.
They can do lines.
They're comfortable on camera.
I don't know what that is.
You know, how they transition the two.
Is that a tough?
You know, for me, it's a great idea and it's a great question.
I think most actors, they're artists.
And so they really, like, express themselves through their art.
And in the art, you're given the permission to really create and be something.
For me, it's the permission.
I need the permission.
I need the people around me to say, hey, man, we believe in you.
We want you.
We want to see you create.
And it's like, okay.
I had that, again, my mom being Japanese and my dad being military, it was be seen and not heard, you know, say, yes, sir, yes, ma'am.
So it was very about respect.
And then growing up, it's like, when do you really decide, well, I'm an adult now?
I don't think we actually ever do, you know, like even now I feel like a kid, but I have to remind myself, like, I'm stepdad to three kids.
I'm got a lady, I got a house.
I got two dogs in my own, you know, like, I'm an adult now.
I have to adult hard.
Yeah.
I can't be a kid, you know?
But it's that permission that I have to even tell myself, hey, man, it's okay.
Like the 10-year-old self and your 50-year-old self, make both of those people proud in this moment.
Let's go.
Hey, I like that.
I like that a lot.
So that acting journey.
So it wasn't just immediate stardom and all the riches and gold and all, you know, like every gig you ever wanted.
I thought that's how it worked, right?
Isn't that the Hollywood dream?
Yeah, it's strange.
I stepped out and immediately put a crown on me and the robe.
He started to call me Ryan Alford.
I was like, wait, that's not me.
I'm not the king.
That's you.
No, for me, I came out here and I really thought like, okay, I have to, who am I?
What's going to make me unique?
What's going to separate me?
So I did a few beauty pageants.
And I thought if I had a title, I can get an agent and secured it.
After I got a couple titles, I secured an agent, got my agent.
And they only wanted to rent me commercial.
And so I was like, no, no, I'm like, I was like, I was like, yes, of course.
Absolutely yes.
And then I remember going home and thinking, I deserve more.
I got to work.
I got to show to them that I deserve it.
I was just too complicit.
So in that decision, I remember I called them like two weeks later after having that inner monologue being like,
you're worth it, you're valuable.
Come on, man.
And then I called them.
And I was like, can I show you that I'm ready for theatrical as well?
And they're like, okay, come on in.
do a monologue for us.
And I did.
I did,
I did, um,
um,
oh,
it slipped my mind,
but I did a monologue and,
um,
they gave me a two year contract on the spot.
Signed across the board.
I was like,
okay.
So as long as I can continue to overcome my fears and speak what I want,
I can have it.
And,
um,
every audition room I got in,
I learned something.
I failed and I failed and I failed.
I wasn't either,
whether it was my look,
I'm not Asian enough or I'm not white,
enough. Whether is my experience, my resume wasn't big enough to be able to get the larger rules,
whatever it may be, I failed time and time again, countless amount of times. But through each
failure, I learned and I grew and I adapted and I evolved. And I found that, you know,
nothing was going to stop me unless I gave up, unless I chose to throw in the towel. And after about
eight or nine years, I just shot Hawaii 50 one episode. And I'm kind of kind of, you know,
making jokes on the set.
And I remember one guy
kind of sitting in the corner over there, and I was like, oh,
he seems a little grumpy.
I'm going to hang out with him.
And, you know, he's kind of overlooking everything,
but not thinking twice and making jokes on him,
make him feel good.
And he basically was like, you know, hey, you're really good.
We'll see you next season.
I was like, nah, bro, I'm one and done.
I got to do this awesome episode.
I'm very happy, thank you.
And he's like, no, I'm the executive producer.
We'll see you next season.
And I was like, no way.
I get home, tell my parents.
things happen
anyway long story short
I'm kind of homeless at the time
and then
for a few months
you know kind of
living on different people's couches
couch surfing
here and there
found myself
the number one rule
was like you know
two things that go bad in three days
fish and house cats
so I was like oh I got to be out
so on the second night
you know I'd sleep I'd wake up
super early clean everything up
and leave. They're like, hey, man, what happened? Where'd you go? I was like, oh, I'm so busy.
I got, I got, you know, I got a lot of things to do. I never wanted them to worry about me.
You know, I was like, but my goal, again, was to like always, always be proactive, be ready,
and stay ahead of the game. And after about nine years of struggle, and, again, not having
complete focus as to what I wanted. After being homeless, I cut everything out of my life.
That was toxic. That was bad. And I started to refine and, and filter out.
out everything that wasn't helping me in my goal.
And from there, you know, right after Hawaii 50,
I got a two-year contract on days.
And about three months in, they call me back for Hawaii 5-0.
Hey, we want you to be the main antagonist, you know,
of seasons 5 and 6.
And it was kind of like for three years.
I was flying back and forth from my Hawaii 5-0 and days of our lives.
How was Hawaii 5-0?
Did you know, I mean, you're probably not even old enough.
I'm very, I don't know.
I'm a older than you.
And I don't think I'm, the original?
Like did you study the original?
Like how much
How much knowledge was even required or was it?
Dude, honestly, like, I knew nothing about the show.
I just knew that it was like a huge franchise.
I mean, it was a very, very popular.
Everyone loved it.
It was like, what the cool people do, you know?
And like Alex Laughlin, Scott Khan, you got Grace Park and Daniel Day Kim.
I love them so much.
Yeah.
But I literally did one audition.
and I thought they're like it's a big, you know, guest star role where you're the brother-in-law of Daniel Day Kim.
I'm like, dude, the guy from Lost, this guy's a legend.
And like I said, I really knew nothing of the show.
I was just kind of going in.
I was doing what I felt was right for the role.
And kind of came through fruition.
Like I said, it kind of fell into my lap.
One episode turned to another one, turned into another two, turned into three, turned into one, turned into 13 episode run on a three-year span.
and making relationships with Grace Park and Daniel Day Kim,
who I have the utmost respect for both of them.
And that's the thing, like you said,
like I would think like that snowballing
and you take advantage of it like you mentioned with the executive producer.
But getting on the shows like that with those names,
Hollywood, I mean, it's like anything else,
not watching us who you know, right?
Like, because you never know what projects they're going to do.
They remember you, you make an impression.
I mean, I would just think that it,
those kind of thing snowball is those relationships you build because I think with those
relationships come more opportunities, right?
You're absolutely right.
I mean, because in the end, it's like, I always say, yes, the old thing is it's not
what you know, it's who you know, but to add on to that, it's who you know and how you know
them.
Yeah.
Because now that you know me, you know, but you can't really ask me of a favor as of yet,
but by the end of this, we're probably going to hang out, having Christmas dinner together,
you know, splitting things.
When I come to L.A., we're going to have drinks.
and or gender or you know go surfing whatever it is whatever you know yeah yeah man i'm gonna be
playing the white if i'm gonna be theme song you're gonna be i'm gonna have days for our lives theme song
you know i'm gonna bring my hourglass you know like i have one actually hidden in the corner
there with my days 50 year anniversary book that's awesome but uh i mean it comes down to who you know
and how you know them and the more better acquainted you are with people the better you are as a
person, the more people are willing to actually say, you know what, I don't mind vetting for you
and using my name as a referral to help you along the way. And there has not been many people who've
been willing to actually stick their name out or stick their neck out for me. But the very few people
who have, I will have a lifelong debt to these people because Hollywood is a cutthrow business.
And if I'm working, many of them feel that many people feel that, you know what, that means you're
taking food off my plate.
But the way I see it is,
because there's such few Asian Americans
that are actually working in the entertainment industry.
And like,
we just got our first Marvel superhero, right?
Shang Chi.
Yeah.
We just got,
I'm,
you know,
I'm upper 30s.
And I'm just seeing my very first role model who's a superhero.
Like for me,
it was a very,
very big thing.
I dreamed of being a superhero my entire life.
And so I never thought that I would be able to play one,
let alone,
Now I'm in the role of Nightwing Batman's first protege at the DC in DC, you know?
So.
And I think those things like again, I'm sorry, go ahead.
No, and I think it's interesting like the, you know, I try to be self-aware and I try to like think about like, but you know, I mean, I'm just a white guy from South Carolina.
But recognizing going, you know, like you said, growing up as a kid, you know, having an Asian background and like not seeing or having that reference point, it's like, that's a big deal, you know, and like, and then getting that opportunity to become, you know, a role model.
I don't know. I just think that's cool.
You know, I really appreciate that. And it does actually have like a psychological effect as a child because you don't ever see yourself as the hero.
And you never really see yourself as as the hero of your own story.
You always see yourself as kind of a sidekick or supporting role.
And it's not just you.
It's how society views people of color.
Yeah.
And sadly, it's like, well, you know, oh, there's the Asian guy.
And when you think of Asian, you immediately slap him with stereotypes, you know, the nerd, the mathematician, the martial artist.
Now, I'm great at all three of those things, believe.
You're smart.
You're good looking.
And you're getting at karate.
But other than that, I don't want to stereotype you.
I mean, we'll let you have those.
You got to be good at the thief.
Yeah.
No, but honestly, like, you know, just like I bet you're great at those as well, plus many more.
We're multi-layered people as well as any other race, you know.
And it's like the more that you showcase that on television, the more that you start to normalize other races and that we are
just all bleeding the same color blood.
That's right.
You know, we're no different you and I.
I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, I'm the thumb on the hand.
And you're, you're, you can be the pointer, you can be the middle, whatever you'd like.
We're all in the same hand, you know, yeah.
Yeah.
So, uh, all right.
I waited, I waited 18 minutes to get into, uh, days of our lives, you know, I mentioned it
earlier, but, you know, my, my, my not guilty pleasure.
Um, I know it's been a big deal for you.
you and it's funny because I asked you we talked pre-episode you know like so where do you get the most
recognition you know like and he said the most excitement might come from people recognizing you
from days uh so multi-level question here you know first talk about in general I'm curious like
the soap opera you know experience and the day is experience uh and I don't know give us some
I don't know, grub or insight to the soap opera world, you know, behind the scenes.
Man, I'll tell you what, it is a very, very fast machine.
If you can't keep up, you know, Drake Hoveston always tells me,
your name is on paper and they can come off that door just as quick as it was put up.
You know, you got to be ready.
And for me, it was like I got in there.
I remember auditioning for the role, like against thousands of other people.
And I walked in and it was like, I was kind of like, not thinking.
I was kind of like, you know what?
I'm so focused.
I had just screwed up my opportunity in general hospital with Mark Teshner, Frank Valentini.
I got the producers for the role.
And I just stumbled.
I fell apart.
I was, I folded under the pressure.
I wasn't ready.
And again, in that failure, like any other, I sat, I stood and I thought about it.
And how can I make myself better from these moments?
had the opportunity to meet with Marnie,
had cast director of Daze.
And right off the first audition,
she looked at me and said,
we're bringing you straight to producers.
So I was excited.
I get to meet Greg Meng,
you know,
and everyone knows the prolific Greg Mang.
Well,
they called me back.
They said,
sorry,
they change the script.
We just want to not throw any curveballs at you,
but here you go.
I remember getting to the producer session,
and I saw a large group of black men.
So a large group of Latin American men.
I saw a large group of Asian,
American man. I was like, man, it looks like everyone else is going for different roles.
They were all, I didn't know, we were all battling for Paul.
Long story short, came down to me and two other actors, one black, one Latin and myself.
They asked if I spoke Japanese. I said, yeah, they asked if I knew sports. I said, oh yeah.
And, uh, Marney met with me.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Martin met with me on the day. Actually, I was driving into the, the lot, getting
the Burbank Studios and I was like oh man this is it you know security guard he's like hey how are you
christic Sean here's my ID and he's like nope your name's not on the list you're not coming in I was like
wait I'm supposed to be in there doing a network test yes my name wasn't on the list they're getting
to the studios and it's like four o'clock in the morning no one's answering their calls my agent my manager
no morning was like I'll be right there save my day and then I got on set and freddy smith was like
my scene partner and um you know I was like
dude I don't know I'm like you know I'm confident but I'm nervous to be kissing you
freddie and I was like and he's like don't worry man I got you and that was it like we
you know I had my first kiss on camera and I booked the role working with freddie very comfortable
working with him he was awesome and then you know on the day set this is where we start getting
a little crazy on the day one my very first scene is Sean Christian the the famous gorgeous
Sean Christian Doctor on Days of Alives and Christopher Sean.
So stage manager friend is calling us both out the set.
She's like, Sean Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian.
You both know your names.
Get out here and get right.
They're like, oh, man.
And right before I go out, one of the actors, Daniel, I'm drawing a blank here.
Daniel says to me, hey, man, they don't care about the blah, blah, blah.
They only care about the oolah, la.
So I was like, oh, I got to look.
pretty so I'm trying to do the the blue steel in my scenes. I look like I look like an idiot. I don't know how
the fans enjoyed me at all. But yeah, there's that and kind of like a couple a year or two in
the project. I remember being on set. I got to meet Deidre Hall and we related because we both
have siblings that have Down syndrome. And you know, she's one of the most loving and in and
powerful presence.
She has such a powerful.
She's Queen Bee, they call it, right?
Queen Bee on set, because she just really understands that she's been,
she has the most time on camera than any other actor in Hollywood.
That's why, one of the reasons she got her star in the Walk,
Hollywood Walk of Fame.
I mean, she's incredible.
She used to ride an elephant, stand on elephants and do circus shows and tap dance.
And she was a superhero.
And Pedro Hall, everybody, you know, round of applause for her.
We love her.
working with her. She was amazing.
I remember though being in the hair and makeup.
This is where everything was had.
I call it the watering hole because everyone comes
and everyone talks about what's going on in their days.
Drake Hogan comes in and I just
have the utmost respect to this gentleman.
And this is prior to me finding out
that I was going to be his son on the show
and we're hanging out and talking, talking, talking.
He's talking, talking, talking, and I'm loving it.
But, you know, some people are like,
oh, Drake talks forever.
And I was like, you know, so I get a call from stage manager.
And they're like, hey, Christopher Sean, we need you up front.
I'm like, excuse me, Drake, one quick second.
I run over.
And they're like, oh, man, so sorry.
You know, sometimes some people can, and I was like,
is this literally the only reason why you called me out?
I mean, you called me out to stop me from having conversation with this legend.
And they were like, well, we were just trying to help you.
And I was like, thank you.
And I ran back in.
He was like, everything.
I was like, yeah, it's just a misunderstanding.
So anyway, where were you?
And he's telling me about his days in a New York Yanke.
he's telling me about like you know seven brides is seven sons and seven brides i mean all of his
so for everyone listening that might know him by his his uh his day's name who are we talking about
i apologize john black yes john black yes man b b legend himself uh the white fox i love him
the silver fox excuse me um gorgeous double o agent he was also the one who was like
read this book. It helped me find my character. The Boren Identity.
Oh, wow. And I read it. I read the whole book front of the back. I love this so much.
My lady got me the entire series. I got four or five books hidden over here in my bookshelf.
That's great. But yeah, man, like every day, me and John Black, Drake Hougaston, we would sit in his dressing room and we would just talk for hours prior to actually going to set.
and we would just relate and he was really a father figure to me um
who what great great which uh character or actor was most like their person real person in
real life is anyone like like almost playing themselves yeah that's a great question man
um i always wondered that because like some of these guys you know so pop super's maybe
get like a bad rap sometimes but like some of them like
I just imagine them they have to act like this has to be them in real life.
Like, I don't know.
You know, it's funny.
It's like each person is a little different like John Aniston.
I'll tell you a little story.
I don't know if I should.
You know what?
I'm going to tell you the story by John Aniston.
Yes.
When I first met him, he was, he was, I was like, hi, pleasure to meet you, sir.
Like respect your work.
And he's like, oh, what are you doing the show?
And I was like, oh, man, he's tough.
You know, he's like, I was like, all right, I play.
you know, Paul Nerida, I'm the home record of Sonny and Will.
Oh, yeah.
You'll tell you a joke.
And he goes on to tell me this joke that I was like, yeah, yeah, okay, sure.
The joke was not family friendly.
Let's just say that.
And I'm like, who is this guy?
He's kind of chuckling.
He's like, have a great day.
And I'm like, what the heck?
So completely contrary to what I thought he was, like this very, like, upright, regal man.
He was like, you know, telling dirty jokes.
jokes in the bag being hilarious by the way and i was like what a way to break the ice what a way to
make someone feel comfortable like what what an awesome experienced uh actor yes i i just remember uh
how many times and i know um he's now passed and i do not know a lot of these guys i i admit
i knew some of them if they were like this gigantic stars like obviously marlena uh but uh they're
acting name but stepano like how many times was stepheno gonna put you know how many different
ways was he going to come back?
Oh man, he was the
Phoenix. He kept rising.
He kept rising, man.
Who's the bad guy now?
I mean, who's like the bad, bad guy?
Is there one?
That's a great question.
I think Stefan O.
Demera is the new bad guy.
Yeah, right.
Trying to be.
To be entirely honest, I'm not following it
as much as I should.
I'm excuse me the more I watch it the more I'm like I need to be back I miss them so much
which is one of the reasons excuse me why I jump back to Beyond Salem I was like I got I got to get
that that itch filled what is Beyond Salem let's talk about that project what's happening there
that's Peacock Peacock app and on the Peacock app they began streaming the Beyond Salem it's a
spin-off series of days of our lives and there um beyond Salem
chapter two we had uh we had a whole slew like a diamond heist and a kidnapping of john black and
a brainwashing of patch and john and patch and um everyone's trying to save the day while bow and hope
love never dies they're brought back to the series and bo and hope i mean christian alfonzo peter
the most probably one of the arguably one of the most beautiful couples in television history like
amazing chemistry amazing talent um and they were like we're done with soaps and yet they're back
doing the peacock app beyond say one too so you know if you're a huge fan of bowen hope which
i don't any soap up every soap show if you're a soap fan you know bow and hope like if you're a fan of
I would say come out and watch the show on the peacock app.
Is the soap opera world just like its own world, like comparative to, I mean, because
you've got daily episodes like it's just, it's a soap, you know, like just the amount of content
and like everything else.
I mean, is it from a business perspective just as unique as it seems?
You're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right.
Because I got a buddy who works in Disney animation.
His name is Frank Niddle.
Love, love, love, Frank.
He's a family friend of ours.
And Frank works, like I said, into Disney since way back in Tarzan.
That was his first project.
And he's been a part of Disney since then.
And, you know, he gave us a tour of the Disney Animation Studios
where, you know, this is where they created every Disney animated movie,
starting with Snow White and On.
At the time, we were there.
They had this secret project.
which was Raya and The Last Dragon and Adelby Lim's working there.
And we're kind of walking around seeing Frozen too everywhere.
The artists working on finalizing every little bits here and there.
It was amazing to see.
But Frank, he's around this.
He's been on the projects for years.
And he's a huge days fan.
And I was like, hey, man, because you're giving my family this opportunity,
I'd like to give you the opportunity to have a tour at NBC lot, Days of Our Lives.
Now, he's kind of stoic and I'm laughing.
Dude, I thought you'd be excited.
He's like, believe me, I'm very excited.
I'm keeping my composure.
This is my mom's favorite show.
This is my favorite show.
He's like, oh, my God.
Thank you so much.
I'm like, cool.
So, you know, he gets there and I was like, what was your first thought?
How did you feel?
Who did you run into?
And he was like, I saw so many of the stars just walking the hall.
So he was like, I knew him.
I knew anything.
He's like the almanac of soaps.
Like, he knows everything.
And he kind of went on and on and on.
But the one thing he did say was, I can't believe how fast-paced it was.
I can't believe how the sets, they seem so small.
Like on the show, it seems like this huge,
but our imaginations create this whole world behind the small set that it is, right?
And so he was like, I didn't realize how small the sets were,
but I was able to get on the set and just kind of live every little moment and breathe in,
you know, the Merrim Mansion and the Brady Pub and all those great,
those great, great places.
How's,
so you,
so you do get is recognized for that than anything else.
And I'm sure like,
soap fans are just like different fans, right?
Are they just like,
dude,
they're so passionate.
They're the most passionate fan base.
And honestly,
like I,
I,
you know,
I did Star Wars.
Yeah.
And I was a,
I was a part of Star Wars resistance.
I did Star Wars Visions.
I just recently did Star Wars.
celebration, the largest Star Wars convention in the United States, like huge, amazing.
But the love that I get when I do soap opera events, the love that I get,
anytime I'm posting things from the soap fans, you know, they're like, I've been a fan from
day one, I've been a fan for 56 years, and I know this and this, and when you came on, I knew
you were going to do great.
You know, it's like, and they follow my career.
They still reach out to me.
I have a long list of people that I can thank, that have supported.
me through my my my um when i left the show and had been there for me when i came back you know um
they're amazing they're the best fan base that i've i've i've ever found in the entertainment
industry how's uh you know you've you've been in the business for a while now you've had the peaks
and valleys you've seen a lot of everything i think you're you know i think maybe hitting your
stride maybe like your popularity your opportunities hopefully are growing we'll get a little bit more
into that but it's interesting to me you've you've you've you've kind of come up to the business while
social media has kind of taken off you know i'm curious from a business and marketing perspective
the impact that you have or may haven't seen you know as it relates to the power of social media
and maybe your career and like how you leverage it or you know all those things i'd just be curious
I think that's a great question.
And I think that absolutely, you know, social media absolutely correlates to the entertainment industry because social media is marketing.
It's direct to consumer marketing.
So if you're not taking advantage of that, if you're not seeing the value in that as a business person, then you're absolutely missing the trend, what's popular, what is the new means of marketing.
I continue to say that because, again, like, if I were to be going up for a role,
and I've got a million followers.
And then Ryan Alford comes in,
and he's got 10 million followers.
We're both amazing.
We're both awesome.
He's super buff, sexy, gorgeous, got a voice to kill.
And then me, I'm trying to compete,
but I only have a million followers,
and I'm almost as good as him.
Who are they going to choose?
Of course they're going to choose Ryan.
Because, again, those are 10 million eyes
that are going to be going to their project
if and when he were to post on his social media for their project.
So it does sadly
In my mind it does play a large part
I mean even sometimes in breakdowns
When you're getting auditions now it'll say
Social media following a plus
Not important but a plus
Why would they put that on there
If it wasn't something that they were thinking about
Yeah right
So sadly it does play a major
Intrigal part into the success
But it can be sadly
Or it could be something that you're well aware of
And you can take advantage of
and do the hustle just like anyone else.
You've got to hustle for what you want in life.
And if they're telling you this is what they want,
well, then get ahead of the game and start working, develop it, get on it.
Like I'm posting every single day of my stories.
You know, I post every single day because that is a 24-hour window
where I know that that's it.
You have to come to my page to see what I'm doing within that 24 hours
or you're never going to see it again.
So that's going to continue to keep that 90% retention rate,
that Instagram, Snapchat,
and whatever other companies that do stories will continue to keep that high retention rate.
And retention to interactions to so forth, those are very important facets as well.
Like you have to start getting, you have to start getting like collaborating with people like yourself who are very successful.
We've got a very, very strong fan following.
And you're unique because you reach out in so many different areas.
You cast a wide net.
It's very smart what you do.
and how you do it, you keep the fans interested,
you continue to grow your fan base and you collaborate with people that you find interesting.
And because you're passionate about it, you're sharing that passion.
And people love you, not for the business that you run.
People love you for you.
And then they'll love whatever you decide to pass on to them because it's you.
You're right.
You're amazing.
And you started off and you were so loving to me.
And I was like, I love this guy.
I was like, you're cool as heck, man.
You got, you sold.
I'm sold.
So whatever it is you post, I want to like.
I want to comment on because you've taken my heart.
You're a great person.
And that's what social can do for you.
It creates that opportunity.
Like you said, it can be a detriment or you can look at it as a lever for opportunity.
Because, you know, you investing time and all that, your fans following you, but you never
know what producers watching.
You never know, like you said, what audition you're going to get in.
And, hey, this guy's active on social media.
He's a great actor.
He's talented.
but he's also going to bring us, you know, some awareness on top of a project.
Maybe it's not as big as like some gigantic movie or something, but it's a leverage point.
So it's smart of you to kind of leverage it and use it for what it can be.
And that's what I coach people on is like, you know, use it.
You know, it's like it's there.
Like we can, you know, bitch about it all day.
But like it's, it's an opportunity point for people.
You know, people look at it and they say, oh, why are you bitching about it?
Like what's the main problem?
Well, you know, back in my day, I had a journal and no one was allowed to read it.
Now the Internet is your journal and you expect everyone to read it.
Well, so what?
You know, the only constant in life is change.
Everything's constantly changing.
Always.
Even after, like, saying that sentence, you know, my innards, my out, everything's changing.
So keep up.
Yeah.
And also, it's like if I got, again, you know, if I got a million followers, even if I have a hundred,
followers and I have a particular niche and you know what I'm like I love this whatever this may be
you can a have a community of people to hang out with and talk about that will enjoy that same thing
you do and then now you have friends in social media you're not so lonely you have people that
are accessible celebrities that are accessible I mean you reached out to me via Instagram
and I then researched you and I was like why in the world would this super successful person reach out to
me but basically like it is one of those things where you know I
Celebrities are accessible.
Yep.
You can build communities.
If you need spare change and you have a hobby,
you have the opportunity to then make a little cash by sailing it to friends rather than knocking door to door.
Like, again, there's so many opportunities that can be found if you just aren't afraid of change.
Yeah.
That is a big point.
Now, have you gotten on TikTok?
Yeah.
Yeah, I suck at it, but I'm on it.
You know, the difference between Instagram is like,
pictures can say a thousand words and videos say those thousand words but tic-tok is like all right we're
taking it to the next now we're going to dance and everything and it's like i don't dance man i'm not a
dancer either but you know you got a you got to change yeah but you know what i have the tic-tok
i've been posting on it i've been trying to interact with people and uh you know it's it is one
the things where it changes here it's inevitable yeah and i'm on it i'm up to like 250 followers
compared to my i g yeah but i'm having fun
on it now i can't stop watching these videos on tic-tok it's so cool well that's a whole it's a whole
another uh time what he starts like you go down the vortex it's like the swiping vortex on
t-tok's like whoa i thought it was 40 seconds it's been 40 minutes what happened
on the rabbit hole yeah that's that's i mean honestly like that type of uh engagement
that's what i hope for when people are watching shows i'm on like days of our lives you got an hour
a day where people can watch and be like, I know I'm going to watch for an hour.
And my problems for the day are going to dissipate.
I'm going to sit and enjoy, get lost.
And then after that, it's like, all right, back to cooking dinner or laundry or whatever
it made, back to the errands of the day.
But, you know, that's one thing I absolutely love about days of our lives is we always
had that time where we can share an hour with the fan base.
And I feel like that may be why the fans are just so loyal.
Yeah.
Because, you know, for us, it's a livelihood.
It helps us live our lives and do something more passionate about them.
It also helps them live their lives.
And again, that symbiotic relationship is pretty awesome.
So what are some projects in the work?
What's a day in the life of Christopher Sean like?
Well, day in the life, before I'd say it's sporadic.
It's crazy.
it's now I've kind of gotten it down to like
like I said I'm adulting pretty hard now so I wake up
I immediately sit up I go right into meditation
because you're kind of in that alpha state where
your mind can still create
and if we're all just balls of energy
floating around and on a spinning around a sun that's
flying through space in the middle of nothing
surrounding other balls of energy it's like
what is life really you know like
make the best of it as you can.
So I just continue to put out there what I want in my life.
You know,
and my mantra is I am a world fame, successful,
high paid and abundantly working,
happy loyal academy award winning lead actor on camera and in voiceover.
And what I will give back.
This is what most people miss.
It's what I will give back is my heart,
my passion,
lessons on how to be better.
I will better every person that comes around me
that truly wants the better themselves.
That's my job to help them as well.
Amen.
And so I love that.
I need my sound effects.
Ding.
Yeah.
But it's that.
You know, it's like a lot of times like, you can't just continue to take because then you become gluttonous.
Then you become lethargic.
Then life is just nothing matters.
But in giving, you find just as much love and passion and giving.
So and that continues.
They say to give and not receive breaks the cycle of love, the Dalai Lama.
Because basically if I give you.
you a gift and it makes me feel good and you want to give me a gift and I'm like no no I can't please
no it's like no thank you I will accept that wholeheartedly because if I don't allow you to feel the
love of giving then I've broken that cycle now it's awkward now it's weird now you don't want to come over
for Christmas and now we can't have dinner but uh so so you know I uh I wake up and I meditate and I put
out what I want I see my thoughts for what they are like because we literally will always have
random thoughts. Probably listening to me down talking, you're like, hmm, well, am I going to have for dinner?
Whatever it may be, right? Or hmm, we're running low on time or whatever. Like thoughts are naturally
happen. That's just, well, we have to be aware of them, but our thoughts will keep us in line as
long as we have a mantra that will continue to guide us to what our goal is. But again,
you just have to kind of be aware of your thoughts. And through meditation, you become aware
that you are not your thoughts. Your thoughts are just visuals that you see on the
train of life and you're just kind of watching those thoughts go by and the more that you allow
them to affect you the more that you can affect other people in a negative way so for me
meditation's key wake up start a day on meditation go right have my breakfast um go right to the gym
workout hit the weights hit the jump rope I did it the more you know campaign with the star the more
you know did you know jumping rope can burn 10 to 15 calories every minute the more you know you know
You know, like, get out there and get in shape.
But I've been applying that now more recently.
And after the gym, I come home and it's right to emails.
It's right to social media, whatever work I need to do, I'll either, you know, if I have auditions, if I have voice over auditions, I start knocking them out immediately.
That night, Monday through Friday, I try and find time for my lady.
Her language of love is quality time.
So for me, what do you, what are you passionate about?
Well, she's passionate about horror films.
She loves the scary movies.
And I'm a big Disney guy.
I'm a big like, I'm like, you know, Pokemon and anime.
Like, but she loves those horror films.
So I'm like, so now I've been avidly watching horror films one a day with her.
And so spend a little bit of time cut out.
And so now I'm kind of knocking out two versions of one.
I'm studying acting.
I'm studying cinema.
I'm studying performance.
I'm studying the way they're made.
And I'm also hanging out with my lady doing something she loves.
So you're ready to be the next Michael Myers is what you're saying.
You know what?
I've got, look at it.
Hey, there you go.
You got it.
I'm ready.
But yeah, man.
And then after that, it's like, you know, I'll read a, I've got like different books that I read self-help books.
And whether it's like self-improvement or fantasy books like Ender's Game or comic books to
study on nightwing and whatever it may be i enjoy reading and then late at night i'm playing
video games man you catch me on the playstation five playing some video games and some friends
talking smack you're not gonna beat this you you suck i got you you're nothing all right good job
man you beat me again let's try again sorry son i didn't mean to hurt your feeling yeah you think he's a
friend he's he's 11 years old and you've like he's trying because the night wing uh chrisan is like
beat them up on Fortnite or something.
So that I got you.
Yeah, listen, I'll buy you a doll later.
I love you.
Yeah.
Send you an autograph.
You know, the hourglass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Send you a hourglass.
That's in, it seconds is a timer from the next time we're going to kick your ass.
Oh, that's so funny.
So how are the opportunities these days?
I mean, you getting, is the phone ringing more?
The email's coming more.
Like, are you seeing more and more opportunities?
Yeah, quantity and quality.
You know, finally now, like, I'm seeing Asian-American actor, Japanese-American.
I mean, I can count, like, in my entire 12 years of trying to be an actor, it was like I had two opportunities for Hapa roles.
That was it.
Now it's like Asian-American, Asian-American.
Sadly, because everything's trying to be so politically correct, it's like looking for,
Chinese American, looking for Korean American, not mixed.
So I still miss out.
It's still kind of a detriment.
But at the same time, the more that I see Asian American faces on camera, the more
opportunities for them and opening that culture, I'm still a part of that culture.
So, you know, things will still trickle my way.
But again, quantity and quality.
Like I feel that I'm finally going up for series regulars.
I'm finally going up for leads and movies.
I'm touching on that.
I just booked a lead of a Netflix animated feature that will come out in 2024.
I'm very excited about that.
Very, very excited about that.
And my entire life, I grew up wanting these opportunities.
And now they're here.
And I'm so grateful.
Gratitude is everything I've found.
Everything is gratitude to the fans, to the work, to the people that
took care of me and mentored me to the people that were willing to put their names out to the fact
that you even wanted to speak with me you know who am i in the world of ryan like i'm i'm like
you get a minnow in this ocean that is ryan's intelligence and background like for me i'm lucky
so thank you and and again it's everything man it is no man it's my pleasure having
christopher sean on the radcast is uh any dream roles like uh if we got anything you know you
You sound like a goal guy.
Like, is there anything like any, I don't know, bucket list or you take them as they come?
Or are you like, man.
Yeah, you know what?
I got a vision board.
Okay.
You know, like a vision board is kind of like a goal, like where you want to go.
But I'm not too specific because I said out my whole life, like the first time, like we're going to San Diego Comic Con.
Literally right after this interview, I got the person that just called me.
He's like, hey, we're out front.
We're going.
Where are you at?
We're holding up the Comic-Con bus here on the Radcast.
No, man.
You know, Comic-Con can wait.
I'm here with Ryan on Radcast, baby.
No, but honestly, like, my goal, I told my lady we went six years ago.
We were in a motel, spent $300 in a small cigarette burn, roaches on the wall, sticky floor.
The drains wouldn't drain.
And I was like, baby, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
But, you know, this is something I've always wanted.
I always wanted to.
And she's like, it's a memory. It's amazing. I'm not boozy. You're boozy, not me. I'm like, you're right. I'm the boogey. She's like, this is an amazing memory. And she will never forget that. And I said, I promise you, I will be back here on stage, having a panel on my own. People will come and want to see me meet me. Six years later, we're there. Now, that was a very specific goal. And I worked really hard for it. But overall, the goal was to be a superhero, not just.
just specifically Marvel, not specifically
DC, not a Japanese superhero.
Like, it was just a superhero.
And now, again, one of the most
coolest, one of the coolest,
sexiest, charismatic superheroes out there,
you know, Batman was very stoic and tough.
And then Robin, who grows up to become Nightwing,
charming, optimistic, like,
basically Nightwing is Batman if he was raised with good parents,
you know?
And I get to be this guy.
I'm the first Asian American person to portray,
nightwing. Holy cow, that's huge.
That's huge. So again,
you know, it's like my goals
are, if you
aim low, you'll hit.
You'll always regret it. Every time
I had on my vision board, most Emmy nominated
actor, Emmy nominated shows, and we were
nominated for a primetime Emmy on Star Wars Resistance,
and we were nominated on Day of Lives, and I was
pre-nominated for my, from performances as Paul
Nerita, but I never won. Why? Because
I aimed low and I hit.
So now I got in my mantra, I'm an Academy Award winning lead actor on camera and in voiceover.
You know, the goal is to continue to put out exactly what I want.
And if I miss, that's fine.
I'm a lot higher than where I would have hit if I aimed low.
And I'm happy with that.
So my goals, again, are to be the number one on cast list, the number one where I can, again, be role models to people who didn't have them.
be the number one where I can show what it means to have a positive and optimistic mindset
and guide people in a loving way compared to some people have pretty heavy egos.
I won't name names,
but I've worked with some people who have taken away from my time to perform
because they felt that it was necessary for them to do 10 takes when I was only given one opportunity.
You know, one shot.
That's it.
I'm sorry, we're out of time.
Can you guys please go straight to tape?
Yeah, I mean, we would practice it knowing this is going to happen.
hoping it wouldn't, but we prepared for it.
So, you know, like, I won't do that to people.
I won't lead by that example.
I will always lead with a positive and righteous choice.
It may be harder.
It may take longer, but that's what I, that's my goals.
Those are my goals.
I love it, brother, man.
You've been a refreshing, pleasant interview in a lot of ways.
And I really appreciate you coming to show.
I can't wait to have Christmas dinner and to, uh,
It's strip in Hollywood.
You know, maybe I'll,
wherever they're putting your star down here in the next few months, right?
Thanks.
I appreciate it, man.
When you, when the stars down, I'm going to be looking at them.
And to Ryan, I'm for having me on the show.
Where are you, man, there you are.
I'm going to have you on my arm.
Get up here with me.
But for real, let's keep it going.
I want to stay in touch and definitely get up when I'm out your direction.
Get me up, man.
I might be able to pull some strings.
for a days of our lives tour.
Who knows, man?
Get me up.
Don't, don't get me excited, man.
Don't get me excited.
Christopher, where can everybody keep up with you?
Oh, Instagram, please.
I'm on TikTok, Christopher Sean,
but Instagram is where I'm mostly located.
I will reply to almost every DM.
At Mr. Christopher Sean, one word.
M.R. Christopher Sean, S-E-A-N.
Thank you for the love, man.
I really appreciate having me.
My pleasure, man.
Also, I'll be a San Diego Comic-Con with Gotham Nights.
That's a project coming out on my birthday, October 25th, is Gotham Knights.
Batman is killed in our project and his protégés, Nightwing, Red Hood, Robin, and Fat Girl, The Amazing Babs.
We have to take over and protect Gotham City.
You can also find me on Beyond Salem Chapter 2 and Peacock app.
We've got a movie coming in 2024 and another project in 2023.
And a lot more.
Check out the Radcast.
Check out the Radcast at Ryan, baby.
Yes.
We're going to have it.
Christopher Shaw and Plashered everywhere.
We'll get your SEO numbers up, if nothing else.
Brother, I really appreciate it.
We're going to stay in touch.
I know we will.
And you got big things coming for you.
I know you do.
Thank you, but have a great day.
Thank you.
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