Right About Now - Legendary Business Advice - Hard Work Works with Artist and World Series Champion Matt Szczur

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

Welcome back to The Radcast! In this episode, we have a special interview with Matt Szczur, a true superstar who has conquered the world of sports and art. Not only is he a Cubs World Series Champion and a versatile athlete, but he is also an incredibly talented artist.From his days as a standout athlete at Villanova to achieving his dream of becoming a World Series Champion with the Chicago Cubs, Matt's work ethic has always been unwavering. He believes that consistency and hard work are the keys to success, whether it's on the field or in the art studio.But there's more to Matt than just his personal achievements. He values the importance of teamwork and understanding others. He knows that true success comes from supporting and listening to those around you.Matt embodies the spirit of a winner, both in sports and in life. His story is filled with dedication, passion, and a relentless pursuit of excellence. Tune in to this episode to discover how you can pursue greatness in both your personal and professional life. Matt shares his inspiring story of achieving success with the Chicago Cubs after growing up playing multiple sports in South Jersey and earning a full scholarship to Villanova. (02:07) Ryan and Matt discuss their experiences as professional athletes, emphasizing the importance of hard work and dedication in achieving success. (03:05) Matt's story of becoming a bone marrow match for an 18-month-old girl from Ukraine and staying in touch with her family has brought awareness to the importance of privilege. (09:40) Matt from being an athlete turned into an artist who co-founded the Noble Gallery to support fellow artists in the sale of their works. (15:20) Through consistent hard work and discipline, Matt  was able to build an art career with his paintings of icons and celebrities, culminating in a Cubs World Series painting selling for $40,000. (22:42) Ryan and Matt emphasize that success doesn't come without hard work.(28:21) This episode is packed with information, wisdom, and passion and we know you will get a ton of value from this.If you want to learn more about Matt Szczur, follow him on Instagram @superszcz4 and his websites https://linktr.ee/superszcz4.Learn more by visiting our website at www.theradcast.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/RadicalHomeofTheRadcastIf you enjoyed this episode of The Radcast, Like, Share, and leave us a review! If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, join Ryan’s newsletter https://ryanalford.com/newsletter/ to get Ferrari level advice daily for FREE.  Learn how to build a 7 figure business from your personal brand by signing up for a FREE introduction to personal branding https://ryanalford.com/personalbranding.  Learn more by visiting our website at www.ryanisright.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel  www.youtube.com/@RightAboutNowwithRyanAlford. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening to the Radcast, a top 25 worldwide business podcast. If it's radical, we cover it. Here's your host, Ryan Alford. Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the latest edition of the Radcast. I'm Ryan Alford, your host. We say if it's radical, we cover it. We've got a radical story today, my friends.

Got a lot of good storytelling transition. We're talking with former Major League Baseball player. I was called my baseball badass. He played his whole life. We're just going to call him. I like the hyperbole here, Matt. Matt Caesar, former world champion, not even a former. He is a world champion with the Chicago Cubs,

former Major League Baseball, and a hell of a fucking artist, if you say so myself. I got looking, I went down the rabbit hole. I'm like, damn, this is some brilliant shit. So, Matt, man, it's a pleasure having you on the show. Thanks for having me all, man. I really appreciate you. You're bringing me out here.

Yeah, man. In Jersey. That's my best jersey. That's as good as I get. It gets bad from there. Jersey, I guess. I got my southern accent. Yeah, I don't have much of an accent.

I'm from the south part of Jersey, so I don't really, I don't have that thick New York accent. Yeah. They call it the Long Island Lockjaw. That's my ex-client when I was in New York. It's always saying, we got that Long Island lockjaw. I'm like, okay, whatever that means. I have more of that silly water accent. Yeah.

You go anywhere in the country and you ask for a glass of water and they look at you, like, we don't have that. Water. Yeah. We're just the y'all crowd down here in South Carolina. Y'all, you guys, I'm trying to mix into you guys, but it doesn't feel as natural as y'all. What you all doing? Oh, man. Matt, it's good to have you on the show.

I've been following you and got to obviously doing some research with my team and seeing everything that you've done with bone mare and all that. I know we'll get into all that. But let's tee it up, man. Pro athlete from right out of the womb. I don't know, man. Baseball, football. Villanova, right?

Yes, sir. Let's tell everybody, we'll give everybody a little bit of your background. All right, yeah, I'm like I said, I'm from South Jersey, born and raised here, ended up coming back after I retired. A little bit of background, you see all these professional athletes always advocating for when they have kids. Chipper Jones just came out with something about, I'm going to let my kid play whatever he wants. And dude, that's what my parents did for me. I was in hockey, wrestling, basketball, football, soccer, and then just gradually went to football. and baseball and then in high school I went to track.

So it was just an all-around thing. And then whatever I was best at, I went for it. And yeah, I went to Villanova full scholarship for football and played baseball there as well. So it was two-sport athlete. Get drafted in the fifth round. A wild story, I was able to put myself up there pretty high on a radar as a football player. So I had the potential to get drafted in the third or fourth round. That was like my main focus, man.

I was like full bore on going to play football in the pros. in the NFL. What position? I played wide receiver a slot. So I was like the inside guy, the shifty little wide receiver, Julian Edelman. At the time,

it was West Welker. I feel like me and Edelman are the same age. So yeah, dude, I went to a combine training facility. I planned on to go the Combine and the Senior Bowl.

And then Jim Hendry, who was the GM of the Cubs, flew out to me. And they offered me a new deal. Pays you not to play football. All right. Yeah. I got lucky, though, man,

my junior year when I got drafted, I actually went to play baseball. Short season, Boise, played for, I think it was like 30 days, batted 400, dominated pretty solid. And then I came back to senior year for my senior season football and had a pretty solid season and just set myself up for that bargain. I love it. Hunter, I'll call you the Hunter Renfro, the slot. That's my boy. I went to Clemson. Clemson. That's the modern day slot guy. Yeah, you're right. He was a one star out of college. Dabo Sweeney picked him out of nowhere. And I turned into a pretty good pro for the Raiders, actually.

Yeah, yeah, he did. I love it. So, yeah, so college athlete, played two sports, good at both, end up in baseball. It's funny how things work, right? And I know you had the minor league career, and then you get with the Cubs. And you've got these guys that play, like, 30 years,

and never win a title. And you're a world champion. Isn't that awesome? Amazing. One thing that people really can't take away from me, man. I was a part of that, that 2016 special team. And you said you follow me on Instagram and socials, man. I do a lot of posting about it because it was just a special thing.

I was able to win an FCS Division I, AA National Championship with Nova. And it's on a different level. But it's the same type of camaraderie in those clubhouses with that locker room. Just everybody pulling for everybody, nobody being like a single eye guy, friends and family off the court or off the field. So it was a tight-knit group and, man, it was a lot of fun. I can't say that enough. Did you miss football?

Yeah, I did. It's just a different animal, man. It's blood, sweat, and tears. And you're really going to war with those guys on the field. So I think that's what I miss the most. But I learned to adapt and have that same feeling in baseball as well. It's just a different kind of feeling. What's, it's always hard.

I talk to a lot of athletes and I talk to you and I've got friends that play pro. but it's always hard, I think. You've got fans. And those of us out here, I had the talent but busted an ankle my senior year. So it said Sayonardo, but didn't play. So the us is out here.

It's always hard to describe. You played at the highest level in baseball. We're on the path for football. That experience, that camaraderie slash the toughness of football, and then baseball's different, but it's always hard, I think, for people that didn't play to understand,

I don't know, the culture, the inside side of those things. Do your best to describe maybe, and I know football just stopped at Villanova and you didn't play pro, but like you were at the highest level, though,

you were going to get drafted. So do your best to describe to me like what that feels like playing at that high level, the buzz of that feeling. Yeah, dude, and that's what I told you off camera is what I'm searching for. You can't replicate that feeling.

But the buzz of the feeling, you can ask a lot of professionals, and I feel like they would have probably something similar. Dude, especially for baseball, I went through five leagues before I got to the big leagues. It's Arizona Fall League. It's short season. It's low A. It's high A, double A, triple A. So that's six leagues before you get to the big leagues.

The only thing that's different, yeah, you're playing better players, but is the atmosphere. And when you get out there, when you stand on that field, for the first couple times, you're like, wow, holy shit, man, this is it. And then it's a game and you're competing. You're trying to win and there's a bigger picture. So that, yeah, you're always going to hear people yelling at you, screaming at you. But it's in one year, out the other for me. And that's how I always looked at it.

And I think you'll get the same answer from a lot of professionals that, yeah, when you get there, it's, wow, I made it. But it's time for business now. We want to win. It is business. That's the thing. Like for fans, it's craziness. That's fandom. I'm crazy about it.

My team, the Cubbies sitting out. I spent work to summer plus some out in Chicago. And so I know that crowd. It's crazy. And it's great, though, the culture and everything like that. But it's, that's fandom. But at the end of the day, it is a business. And you've got to perform.

The pressure to perform. And I'm especially going through the different leagues, I'm sure. Was it overwhelming? Or did you feel like you kept it in check? I don't think it was too. overwhelming. And I just, I had that background. Like, man, I played at Nova. So not saying that we had a ton of people there, but we played at West Virginia when there was 80,000 people. Like, they were number two to see in the country. We played a temple. We packed the link. I'm not saying that it was overwhelming. But I feel like I was able to build that base to almost work my way into it and prepare for something like that by not even knowing I was doing it. I could see it be overwhelming for some people if they get pushed up too fast. But, but. But at the end of the day, man, everybody's going to adapt. These guys are professional athletes.

You see these young guys get up there and they might struggle for a couple weeks or maybe a month or so. But they adapt, man. It's super impressive to watch and it was cool to be a part of. Are you a fan of the game still? Do you watch a lot of football? Are you a fan of pro sports? Growing up, I was never a fan just because I played it so much, man. I had no time to really watch anything.

And that was on me, man. I was at the field nonstop, man. I was just talking to my wife about it. You look at everything and I've earned everything. I was growing up and I wasn't the fastest. I wasn't the strongest. I'm like a little 5-11 white guy that's just running around trying to catch football. So I earned everything I did because I worked so, so freaking hard.

That's just how it was. You earn everything you get. That's in life. That's how it is though. It's in everything. Everybody wants to hand it to them. But it's either it will be fleeting or it won't mean as much. Yeah.

And at the end of the day, man, like, you can win the lottery, but if you earn yourself $100 million, like, you've been through that. So, you know, you appreciate it so much more. Where if it's just handed to you, you're just like, oh, okay, now I'm still searching for some kind of feeling. That's just life, man. You got to earn it. So I believe it was 2010 around there. You'll correct me with dates.

But the bone marrow. How did that all come about? So that was the most impressive part of your story and even today. now. I want to do justice to us and I want you to tell that story how that came about the impact it's had, all of those things. Yeah, it's a little bit of a story. That's okay. We're about stories here. Go for it. Yeah, let me give you like a nice short, simple version. So when I got the college in 2007, the head coach was Andy Talley. And he runs a foundation that's called getting the game. And he's actually super brilliant for doing this. So he was with Be the Match who, you know,

does the bone marrow donations and like hamels everything. And he's, let me, let me put this in football and get every team, every college team's got from 50 to 100 healthy guys. And he's, let's get them all to do cheek swabs and tests and have the potential to save someone's life

who needs some bone marrow. So in 2007, he would have these kind of rallies where as freshmen, we would just round up as many people as we could. And then at the end of it, we would test. And it was simple. And it's still simple.

It's actually easier now than it was back then. It's like a simple cheek swab. You have these long, Q-tip-looking things. You put them in every corner of your mouth. And you literally just put them back in and they sent them away. Is it essentially DNA? Like that means that?

Yeah, that's essentially it. They get your saliva. And then they, just by the saliva, they can see if, you know, you're a potential match. So, yeah, did it in 2007.

And I got called to donate in 2009. And it was right before we went to the plane. playoffs for football and I was a pretty solid part of that football squad. So I went into my coach and I said, hey, I just was called to donate and I'm going to donate. He just looked at me and put his head down. He was like, Matt, I know you would do that. He's you have all the support from us. So I did the blood. So after they do the saliva, they take your blood, they see if your potential match. So it got down to five people and I was one of those five people. And then a week later, they called me and they were like, hey, you're the match. You are the perfect match for this little girl.

we were going to, your donation was, I think, at the time, it was like November 21st or whatever it was. I said, okay, I'll be ready. They called me back two or three days later, and the little girl was too weak to accept the bone marrow. So I couldn't do it. And they just pushed it off. And we ended up winning the national championship game and I was the MVP of the game. So that's like that part of the story. So later in the year, I was my junior year.

So it was like, if you're in a sports at all, like that's your your biggest year for NFL, baseball, all that kind of stuff. So I was doing really well baseball-wise, and I got called to donate again. At the end of the year, it was like our last 12 days. No, it was like the last month of baseball. Called to donate, told my coach, I said, hey, I got called again. I'm going to donate. So I ended up donating.

They give you this drug called nupegen, which increases your white blood cells and it enlarges your spleen. So they treat it like mono. You're not allowed to do anything for, I think it was like three to four weeks. So right before I started taking this medicine, I remember like it was yesterday, I was at Canada River Shark Stadium. We were playing St. Joe's.

My last at bat, I hit a home run, opposite field. And I usually never do that. So went to donate. I'm out for three to four weeks. We have one more series. And it's the West Virginia series. We go down to West Virginia. And they were in contention to make the playoffs.

And if we beat them, we knocked them out. So my first at bat back, I hit a home run too. So it was like a San Francisco. which home run and I didn't really hit any home runs that year and it was just like wow man this is this is pretty special for this to happen long story short ended up donating to bone marrow the girl was from ukraine she was 18 months old and now she's 14 so everything worked out and i stay in touch and yeah that's that's the short and simple story that one transplant is that all she needed to get to worship is it that's cheering or whatever you call it yeah that's all she needed man it was it was she so what she could

of. There's two procedures. There's one that's through the hip, which is like a little bit more painful, but now they put you to sleep, and you're just sore for a couple days. And then the one that I did was they put a needle in one arm, they extract your blood, they filter it through a machine to get the white blood cells out. And then they put a needle in the other arm where it puts the blood back into it. And that's, it's anywhere from three to six hour procedure. So at the time, she could only accept the stem cell, which is the one I did. But yeah, I mean, she said you watch the story. So like you said, she's in Ukraine. The family's not like fighting for her life and trying to find a way to keep her daughter alive, but they're fighting these wars as well.

So it's just a wild story, man. They moved from place to places, refugees. They went to Israel, Canada, back to Ukraine, back to Israel, and now they're in Canada. So it's like just a wild story in itself. They're in Canada now? Yeah, they're able to get over. They went to, they went to Israel, right when the war started when everybody was leaving. And they were there for three months, and they were just waiting for papers to go transfer to Canada and started new life there. It's crazy how much we take for granted.

It's like just we live daily lives and we think we've got problems and we don't have bombs being dropped on our head. Like, it's... You couldn't be more right, man. And then the awareness you brought, I know that obviously stuck with you. And as you've come in out of baseball, you we taught pre-episode damn artists look

Matt you can't have all the damn talent dude MVP of the championship football team good looking guy baseball player Chicago Cubs World Series ring did you have the ring on did you put the ring on Matt no I know what I like was in my safe and I literally look right at it I can't do that man oh I was yeah but maybe round two

okay for sure I got you but And you're an artist. Come on, man. You can't have it all. Can you share some? Yeah. So that's like I said, like we were talking about before how I got started. And I give so much credit to my parents because they just let me do whatever I wanted.

You know, it wasn't, nothing was forced on me, no sports, not art, not school. It was the only thing that was forced is that I couldn't quit. You can't quit. You have to stick it out. And that's how I was, I feel like that's how I was raised. And that's what has gotten me so far. just to push through stuff, even if it didn't work or I didn't like it. Like I said before, my dad was, was very creative. He was always a huge fisherman, created bucktail, sold him online.

He was like a little hustler, entrepreneur, did construction, carved fish. He did it all. So I was always like at his side. At night, that was like one of his ways to calm down after work. I literally probably the same for every dad. They come home, they sit on their couch. Mom makes dinner, he eats dinner, goes back and sits on his couch and watch. his TV and does his hobby. So I was always like right there next to him. And I took that. I did in grade school, did art in grade school, high school, college. And it was it was a way for me like we mentioned. Like there's so much stress in baseball and there's high energies. There's got to be a way to kind of come down after that game. Because you're just, you're on for three hours,

three and a half hours. Not to mention you're at the field for four or five hours before. So a way for me to wind down was always to have my art. and draw, and then later on the line was an iPad, and I had an Apple pencil, and I was able to do a little bit more with digital. And when 2020 hit, I was like, not that I was scrambling, I was always a hustler. And everybody would see me post this art. And they were like, hey, we want some of that. Why don't you share it? So I just tried to do what was relative to the times we were living in.

And I'm sure you watched The Last Dance. And that was like, dude, everybody was watching the last dance. So I'm like, wow, I'm Chicago, Cub, World Series champions. Oh, yeah. I grew up with Jordan. Yeah. Dude, exactly. I painted Michael Jordan, and I freaking crushed it.

And I learned how to hustle. I learned how to sell prints online and have, and sleep and make money. Because I had that third party. They would go. They would buy the prints. And that was that, dude. And I took a lot. I took love to that.

Love to make an art and being able to have this therapy away from this madness of the world was happening. COVID was going on. Nobody could leave. So for me to get away, it was getting away from baseball. It was getting away from the madness in the world. And I was able to just put that on canvas and not paved my way for my future, but it almost helped me retire because I was able to transition into one thing right after I retired. That's helpful.

A lot of athletes don't have that. And I've talked a lot of them. The highest of highs, maybe had a longer career in whatever. and they are trying to replace that, not just their energy and time, but it's just hard to have a career because they consider it a business, a business where you have that level of accolade

and that level of awareness and the crowds and the fans and all that stuff. And even if you're not like self-absorbed about it, trying to replace that is tough. Yeah. I think it's irreplaceable, man. And that's what I said earlier is I'm still searching for that. I'm searching for the team.

I'm searching for that atmosphere. And I know that I'll probably never get it. I'm going to work for it. And if I can find a way to do it through art or something else through social media. And almost you miss making a difference too, man. You can motivate and inspire so many more people when you're on TV. They see you on TV and you say one word and you inspire so many kids around the country. And that's tough to leave too.

you see all the impact you make in some people's life when you're playing baseball. And I think that's what I'm searching for too because I was able to share my story much easier while I was playing than why I'm not. Yeah, man, but you're able, and you're seeing this. I'm not telling anything you don't know, but like the power of social media and just us sitting here talking, the reach that you have and the influence that you can have with your art can and will go to places that you may not even know. So it's powerful.

I know you've transitioned and you mentioned the NFT thing, the digital side of stuff. That's right. I own an ad agency. So that's right in our wheelhouse with marketing and things like that. What's that been like? What's that process been? Yeah. So that's like I said, man, in 2020, I was not that I was searching because we were smart

with money. We didn't blow it. I was never one of those guys that just went and bought everything. But I want to be successful. So if I can't make the money that I wanted to, I could have made $100 million in baseball. And then as soon as I would be done, I would want to find something else. So that was just like how I was like bred. So in 2020, we just have my son.

My son was like a couple months old. And I had so much time to just figure things out. So I would literally, I would paint all day. And it was like the last dance. Yeah, I crushed it with doing in real life paintings. And I was just like searching for things online because I know people were crushing it online. And I ran into a friend who was never a teammate, but was a baseball player that came up with me.

His name was Michael Johnson. His name is Michael Johnson. And he's, yo, see, let's do it when the George Floyd thing happened. And he's, let's do an NFT of the George Floyd. And I was like, what's an NFT? I had no idea what it was. And he was like, it would be great. A white and a black baseball player come together to make this painting and sell it as an FTA.

So I said, okay, let's do it. So I put all my trust in him because, like I said, he's a fellow baseball player. I knew he had a great background. And we did this thing and it sold out in eight minutes. We made like 60 grand. And I was like, Mike, what the heck? What just happened? Yeah.

He's welcome to the new world. So I'm like, okay. And I literally, dude, I grinded for days on end. I had no idea what Ethereum was or Bitcoin was. But I figured out how to sell this digital art, put it on the blockchain, create these NFTs. And I really well doing it. And we go back to the team thing.

Like I had this individual success, but I was still searching for more. It didn't matter how much. money I was making. I'm like, I need, I don't need more money, but I need more like I need, I was passionate about it, but it just didn't feel the same. So then now I, I'm one of the founders of a company called the Noble Gallery. And what we do is we bring on artists and we have a community and artists will make a painting for us and we essentially sell their art. We take a percentage and we pretty much guarantee their sell out. So they know that they're going to sell out with us.

We make money for putting them on our platform and they get their money. We really take care of the artists and that's one of the reasons why I feel like they, everybody wants to drop with us. Is that NFT bubble burst though? Like it was all the rage two years ago. And I know that digital art has long latitude, latitude. It's got a long life because obviously that's where it belongs. But is that, talk to you how the NFT world two years ago versus now?

I think the bubble burst. I don't know if you can say the bubble burst. Maybe the PFP route. Yeah, maybe the PFP route did all like the board apes. The punks are going to be around forever just because of the fact that they were the first. Yeah. And that was like the originals. But I think as far as PFPs, they could be over because it was just like, dude, it was free money.

Like you could buy PFP for 0.08, which was like 100 bucks. And then two days later, you could sell it for $5,000. It was incredible. And I think it was just like the new thing. So people were just doing it and they felt the foam out. And they wanted to buy it for whatever the price was. But I think the art-wise, digital art, that's just another medium. Like people paint on canvas, they spray paint.

They paint with acrylics. They pray with watercolors. I think this is just another form of medium for artists. And the artists that have stuck it out, like they still do well. Like, they still sell at high prices. And so I don't think the art bubble has burst. But I think the PFP, NFP, NFT, bubble has probably is you 100% digital now all your art no dude i do everything man i still i just

signed a deal with fanatics to do some of the paintings with them yeah dude like i said i'm a hustler man so i i enjoy doing all this stuff i enjoy spending time my family i love golfing but i definitely find ways to work what's your handicap of golf i'm like eight eight nine all right i'm anywhere from like high 70s, the low 80s. There you go. That's where I am. The, but yeah. I thought you were going to say plus five or something. I'd be like, dude.

Nah, not that good. You never know. Those baseball players sometimes, it's either a struggle or it's like unreal. You hit it a long way? I hit it pretty far. Yeah, I struggled early on the slice, but it's, you know how it is, man. If you put any work into anything, like, you can be good. I hate the guys that get pissed off when they stink and they only play once a month.

Come on, man. If you were working your job and you only did it once a month, would you be any good? Of course not. What's a bad day for Bat Caesar? Bad day. I'm not hearing me any bad habits. So, like, you seem to have it put together. What's a bad day for you?

My bad days, both my parents have cancer. So those are bad days for me. My mom had a couple strokes last summer. My dad called me. I'm up early, man. Like, 4.35, I'm up grinding, working out. And my dad knows I'm awake. And he just had reached out. He called me. He's like, hey, mom's kind of unresponsive. She had a couple

strokes, had some brain surgery. So those are bad days. Those are bad days. Like you said, we wake up and we're grateful to open our eyes and be in this country and have the freedom to do what we want to do. So I'm grateful every day, man. I get to see my mom and my dad all the time. They're right down the street for me. And part of the reason why I think it was meant to be for me to retire was because I'm here, because I'm spending these moments with my family. they're watching me, they're helping me raise my kid. So it's a blessing in disguise, I think. So I talk to guys like you and I think people listen. And I think you've touched on a few of them.

But I always like to at least attempt to uncover it. Like, what's the play plan? You've been successful in everything you've done. You've worked hard. You've earned it all yourself. But like when you talk to other people, and I'm sure you do, just by the nature, you're freaking Cubs world champion,

and ex-world championship football player, amazing artists. I'm sure you get asked and all these things. How'd you do it? How did you get successful? But what were maybe some of those like really tactical things that have been like in the Matt Caesar playbook of success? I think any success is consistency is key, man. Even it's funny because people think these YouTubers, these creators,

they just became popular overnight. these dudes are grinding. Like when I was doing paintings, like I was grinding, doing paintings and like just posting it to try and get some interaction. I got lucky. I did a few paintings and my wife and I, we started a foundation and we raised money for the people around here who have cancer. We donate food, donate presents. And for one of the, one of our events, I did paintings of myself at portraits with football and baseball. And they both sold for 500 bucks. And I continued to work and continue to paint icons and celebrities. And we won the World Series that year.

And the Cubs reached out and they were like, hey, what about you doing a Cubs World Series painting for our Bricks and Ivy Ball? And maybe I had a little head start, but they would have never asked me if I wasn't putting in that time, like doing cool artwork. Yeah. So they sold that for 40 grand. And then my, my art career skyrocketed, but I put in the time to do it, man. I've been doing it my whole life.

And that's the same thing, like I said. Dude, I've been grinding at 4.30, 5 o'clock pretty much my whole life. And I did that because I did that at Villanova. Our workouts were 5.36 a.m. in the morning. And I got better. Like, that discipline that helped. We didn't have to work out that early. But the discipline, like, helped me get better.

And same thing right now. Dude, I'm not retired athlete. Don't need to be working out at 5 o'clock in the morning. But my ass is on the beach Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 5 o'clock in the morning. Putting myself through suffering pain because I need to. Successful is winners, man. You're a winner, dude. It isn't accidental.

People liked to think that all, man, he fell into that. He was so blessed to be naturally born as an athlete. Yeah, that bullshit. Like I said, I was having that conversation with my wife today because I was just an average kid in grade school. Kids were questioning me. Kids were doing more pull-ups than me. I just wanted it more than everybody else. We're parents that a good job, brother.

Where can everybody keep up with everything that going on? I know you still evolve with the bone marrow stuff. Let's talk about some of the hit lists where everybody can stay following you, learn more about the things that we can only go so far on. Yeah, dude, all myself's on my Instagram social and Super Cs4 and my art website's Matt Caesar Art.com. I know that last name is a little bit difficult to spell. Spell it out for everybody.

We'll have it on the show notes in the list. but spell it for everybody. Dude, it's S, Z, C, Z, you are. And listen to this. The funny part is, like, when I go to places and they're like, all right, can you give me your last name, please? I literally spell out the last name for these people.

And they can't even write it down right. Yeah, it's a weird combination of letters. You don't write it long. What's funny is when you said the letters, it sounded more like the name than the name looking at the name. I don't know if that makes any sense at all. No, that's funny. But yeah, dude, that's me, man. You can find me on socials at the Super C's 4,

and then my website has everything as well. Really appreciate it, Matt. I want to stay in touch. I'm going to text you my number. I love to discontinue your relationship. I love talking with people that are driven like you, and I know that our audience, we had a lot of value from a brother. Yeah, thanks for having me, man. It's always great where I can come show a story and raise awareness. Yeah, man. Hey, guys, you'll find us to radcast.com. search for Matt Caesar. Or just search for hell.

Just search for badass artists. You'll find all the highlight clues from today. World champion Chicago Cub, Matt Caesar. You know where I'm at. I write and offered on all the social platforms. You'll see that blue check. I had it before you could buy it. We'll see you next time.

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