Right About Now with Ryan Alford - Brad Lea - Sales Training Expert, Author, Podcast Host, Founder, and CEO of Lightspeed VT

Episode Date: November 23, 2021

Welcome to another episode on The Radcast! In this episode on The Radcast, host Ryan Alford talks with Brad Lea, Sales Training Expert, Author, Podcast Host, Founder, and CEO of Lightspeed VT.In this ...episode of The Radcast, Brad talks about what people always tend to miss or fail to do in terms of the 4 keys to effective training. The #1 skill most people overlook and the importance of asking the right questions. He also shares about the time when he realized that he has the skill to teach people and who he considers as his mentor. Brad also shares his Sacred Six to have a new perspective in life and the biggest challenge he has overcome. He talks about what makes LightSpeed VT different and so much more...Brad also has a quick take on RAD or FAD trending topics;Sales TrainingSocial SellingNFTsFireball Whiskey ‘FirekegLearn more about Brad Lea: https://bradlea.com/ . Follow Brad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradlea/ and Instagram: @therealbradleaIf you enjoyed this episode of The Radcast, let us know by visiting our website www.theradcast.com. Like, Share and Subscribe on our YouTube account https://bit.ly/3iHGk44 or leave us a review on Apple Podcast. Be sure to keep up with all that’s radical from @ryanalford @radical_results @the.rad.cast If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, join Ryan’s newsletter https://ryanalford.com/newsletter/ to get Ferrari level advice daily for FREE.  Learn how to build a 7 figure business from your personal brand by signing up for a FREE introduction to personal branding https://ryanalford.com/personalbranding.  Learn more by visiting our website at www.ryanisright.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel  www.youtube.com/@RightAboutNowwithRyanAlford. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What are you hiding? What are you trying to keep private? I had a feeling we might go there. Brad Lee, the real Brad Lee. Dude, I watch you on TV. And I said, what? You're listening to the Radcast. If it's radical, we cover it. Here's your host, Ryan Alford. Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the latest edition of the
Starting point is 00:00:28 Radcast. Doing a little reciprocal behavior here. Brad was nice enough to have me on dropping bombs, but now we've got Brad Lee, founder and CEO of Lightspeed VT. What's up, Brad? What's going on, buddy? Hey, man. Just living the dream here in South Kakalaki. Nice. I don't know. We're a few hours behind you, but it's a little dreary here in South Carolina today. But we're actually finally getting out of 90 degrees, so we're definitely happy here. How's old Vegas?
Starting point is 00:00:59 You're a few hours ahead. Ahead. Sorry. Yes, yes, yes. That's all right that's all right you know you can't you can't uh blame south cackalackians for not knowing the time you guys are just over there in heaven oh i know yeah it is it's nice in south carolina you know i've heard always sunny i go check it out i know i need a summer home. Yeah? Where are you looking?
Starting point is 00:01:31 Nashville, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, Montana, and the Carolinas. Okay. Well, we need to get you up here to Greenville, and where we can shoot to the mountains or we can shoot to the beach. Either one. Maybe do something together while you're here. Hey, man, I appreciate coming on Dropping Bombs. I know we're going to get into all that in the new book, but let's tell everybody a little bit about Bradley
Starting point is 00:01:54 that may not have already stumbled upon you. You're kind of everywhere these days, brother. I see you at every Mastermind, and you've got the book coming out. But I'd love to give everybody a little fresh perspective on you and your background all right well again i'm i'm an entrepreneur really i started a interactive training software company about 20 years ago before anyone was doing it which uh kind of led me to a lot of the big wigs and the big names and the large brands that use it. So it gave me a little spotlight. And then people started saying, who's this guy? What's he saying?
Starting point is 00:02:31 And then, you know, the way I say things, I guess I try to keep things simple and real. So I started to amass a little bit of a following. And now, you know, I'm getting offered to speak everywhere. And, you know, it's just kind of blowing up a little bit of a following. And now, you know, I'm getting offered to speak everywhere and, you know, it's just kind of blowing up a little bit. I'd say a lot bit, you know, that seemed compressed from, you know, everything I've read. I mean, you know, but where does your charisma come from? I mean, I feel like that's when I'm kind of doing my normal consumption of content, I come across you. There's your charisma, your confidence and all of that.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I mean, it's certainly part of the realness of you, but where does that stem from? I think it stems from the source. You know what I'm saying? A long time ago, I realized that when people put on a facade or try to act the way they hope other people will like them or will want them to act, there's just a little bit of a filter there. And there's a little bit of inauthenticity that muffs out the real you. Well, I learned that at a young age. At six years old, I was telling everybody my dad owned Disneyland because I was kind of ashamed of being broke. We had a small house in a kind of a neighborhood where larger houses were, and we were kind of the broke family. And because of that shame and guilt I felt at a young age, I just started lying.
Starting point is 00:04:06 of that shame and guilt I felt at a young age, I just started lying. And all throughout, you know, from six years old till about 13 years old, dude, I was just alienated, known as just full of shit. So we moved about 30 miles away and I saw that I had a new opportunity to start over. And I said, I'm just going to be me. I'm not going to lie. And, you know, I want people to like me, be me. I'm not going to lie. And if, and you know, I want people to like me, but if they don't, that's okay. And, and coincidentally, we moved a little bit to the North and all of a sudden I became popular and, uh, you know, not with everybody obviously, but you know, it was, it was definitely a relief. So at a young age, I learned to be myself and I think the confidence comes from knowing who I am. Did you – you had to have mentors, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I mean, like, when you look back, who are those influencers in your life? You know, I don't really say that I have a mentor or I had one. I think I was mentored by everyone. You know, things not to do, things to do. You know, my dad, my grandpa, my freaking friends, their dads, you know, their moms, TV shows, you know, Tony Robbins, Grant Cardone, Damon, John Zig Ziglar, Tom Hopkins, like I've learned a lot from everybody. And I believe in learning something new every day, because a lot of times we get in these ruts where, you know, we're just kind of feeling stuck. And mainly it's because we're doing the same things. And in order to do something
Starting point is 00:05:45 different, you have to think something different. So if you're not getting any new information, you kind of just get stuck. So I seek new information on a daily basis. And I realize everybody I meet knows something I don't. So I believe relationships are the new currency. I believe the more hands you shake, the more money you make. And I'm not concerned if someone doesn't necessarily like who I am because I like who I am. So I think that's a combination that just comes across confident to some and arrogant to some. Others, you never know. But at the end of the day, I think that's the key is just learning from everyone, letting everyone be your mentor, your children, your employers, your employees, your friends, your relatives, you know, everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I learn from everyone. I tell people a lot in my business and, you know, I own an ad agency and I tell people the most successful people in this business or in general are naturally curious. in this business or in general are naturally curious. Because I think if you don't have a natural curiosity, you're both uninteresting, number one, I think. And then number two, I don't think you can have, it's something that comes, I think, with driven people. Well, I'm definitely curious, so I would be a check in the proof box.
Starting point is 00:07:05 All right. If I ever need someone here in the ad agency, maybe you can hire us. That's what it can be. How do you filter? I always find this fascinating. I'm the same way. I breathe in a lot of this stuff. I'm looking same way. Like I breathe in a lot of this stuff. I'm looking, observing, like you said, you've,
Starting point is 00:07:29 you've got a lot of touch points for like talking with people, building relationships. What becomes, is it a natural instinct for, or do you test it? Like how do you know how to filter what to try yourself or what, what you then enact or, or use when there's so much stuff out there? Well, again, I think if you just focus on telling the truth and being the truth, the truth resonates higher frequency than anything else.
Starting point is 00:07:58 So it's like I keep it real. I just tell you the truth. I don't beat around the bush. I don't use big words to try and prove that I'm smart. You know, I just talk. So like, you know, I think, I think with that simplicity comes, you know, better information. I think, I think like, you know, clarity in a world of chaos is gold. I just need the light.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Someone just bring me the light so I can see. I bring the light. I bring the truth, my friend. I love it. I know you do, man. I know you do a lot of sales training and things like that. Sales and optimization and performance marketing is all the rage now. and optimization and performance marketing is all the rage now.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I mean, people can look you up, and we'll get to the book and other things, like some core principles, but is there a number one skill set that maybe people overlook or as often, or two or three, there's a specific number here, but things that really make people great at sales. Well, when it comes to just sales, you know, there's quite a few. I think people overlook empathy. They overlook the, you know, empathy being number one. I mean, a lot of times if you just put yourself in your customer's shoes, say to them what you would want to be told, you know, treat them like you'd want to be treated, you know, you're going to go a lot farther in sales. I think if you really want to learn to sell, learn to stop selling, right?
Starting point is 00:09:36 And we're learned to sell incorrectly. We're being taught to close deals and sell people so we can get a commission or we can make a sale. When if you just stop doing that, man, instead of being a salesperson, try to be a help person. You know, stop selling and just start asking some questions and being interested in your customer. And then lo and behold, you'll find information that totally correlates with your product or service. that totally correlates with your product or service. And all of a sudden now that enthusiasm and that passion kind of gets transferred to the other person and they buy your product and service. So the way to sell is to not sell.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Look to help people, man. It took me 30 years to learn three valuable life lessons. Number one, be real. Number two, be ethical. And number three, help other people, man. You never know. There's a scripture, Hebrews 13 to look it up. That's why I say, man, you just you just more hands you shake, the more money you make. Go out there and introduce yourself. See, right.
Starting point is 00:10:39 A lot of people can't introduce themselves because they don't know what to say. They they feel stupid. They don't want to come across this way or that way. They're so worried about other people's opinions or their judgment. And the reason for that is because they don't value their own enough. They don't have a high enough judgment or an opinion of themselves. So they look to everybody else to validate theirs. And you're setting yourself up for disappointment when you're trying to literally look externally to find validation. You need to find that validation internally. And if you look inside and you don't like what you see, change it, brother.
Starting point is 00:11:17 People are like, yeah, but I don't really like myself. Well, dude, no shit. A lot of people don't like themselves. What's crazy is a lot of people don't like themselves and they're not even aware of it um the reason we don't like ourselves is because we've lied we've cheated we've procrastinated we've done all these things over the last you know however old we are and we've never said sorry to ourselves we've never forgiven ourselves we forgive others but we don't forgive ourselves because it doesn't dawn on us to do so. So I put together these things I call the sacred six, which kind of turned it around for me. Number one, I forgave myself. I wiped the slate clean. I apologized to myself for doing all the shit I did to myself, caused all that pain and suffering. I apologized,
Starting point is 00:12:01 wiped the slate clean. The number two, I committed to do what I say I'm going to do from that day forward. And that in and of itself gives you a major boost in confidence, self-esteem, self-worth, et cetera. Number three, I started racking up the wins. I started to realize we always set these high goals and we're always taught to set these monster goals. Well, these monster goals oftentimes are not met. So what is that? That is a loss. So we lose more than we think we do more than we're aware of. So I decided to just lower the goals. I set five or 10 small goals every single day that I know I can knock out, but guess what? It's a win, a win, a win. So I rack up the wins by lowering my goals and making
Starting point is 00:12:44 sure that I do them. And then I get rid of all the idiots that are surrounding me. You know, anybody talking shit, anybody, you know, trying to discourage me, any, any hate or headlines, I just block it out. You know, that's step four, get rid of the idiots. Okay. You can tell a mile away if they're an idiot. Why? Well, because if they're your friend, they want you to feel good about yourself. They want you to reach. They want you to develop and grow and be happy. So any comment that you hear from family, from friends that's opposite of that, they're clearly identifying themselves as an idiot. You just block them out. Get rid of it. Number five, you visualize exactly what you want, where you want to be, who you want to be, and you start to visualize being that, right? We're human beings. And too many times people don't really know what success even looks like to them. So you have to visualize that on a regular basis. And then step six, man,
Starting point is 00:13:45 just pick up a book, man, start reading, start listening to podcasts, start, start listening to audio books, like look for new information every single day because the new information allows us to change our beliefs and our beliefs are what cause our behaviors. So if you really want to change what you're getting, you have to change what you're doing. And in order to change what you're doing, you have to change what you believe. And the only way to change what you believe is to get new information.
Starting point is 00:14:14 So those six things, forgive yourself, commit to do what you say you're going to do, rack up the wins, get rid of the idiots, visualize and seek new information. 90 days later, you'll have a whole new outlook on life, a whole new perspective. You'll value yourself. You'll start to value yourself and then you'll gain momentum and then, you know, shoot me a DM. I love it, brother. There, there's a mastermind right there. And what, four minutes, five minutes. That was it right there. A lot of sage advice and you know what i'm gonna go to number two i feel like
Starting point is 00:14:46 it is it's fucking crazy to say this like a lost start of doing what you say you will do it is amazing how many people do not do that do you deal with that do you deal with that as much as I do I recognize it yeah I don't deal with it no but I do recognize it and when I recognize it I have empathy I give them a little stricken hug
Starting point is 00:15:16 and a high five and I try to let them know that that's destroying their confidence their self worth and their value not only to me, but to themselves. And doing what you said you would do is far less costly than not. So I try to educate them a little bit, and hopefully they learn from their errors. What's the biggest thing you've ever had to overcome?
Starting point is 00:15:43 What's the biggest thing you've ever had to overcome? You know, like, you know, it's crazy. Cause when people ask me these questions on these interviews, I can't think back and think of any, you know, major challenge. I think my perspective is in such a way that everything I see is an opportunity. Like it sounds cliche, dude, but like someone asked me the other day, you know, how do you deal with problems? I said, um, and in my mind, I'm like, what problems do I have? And then I'm like, I don't really have any problems. And he's like, come on, dude, everyone has problems. I'm like, bro, I don't have any problems. My problems are not problems. They're opportunities. They're opportunities to get smarter, better, faster, stronger, more wise. They're opportunities to me. They're like games and challenges. It's like,
Starting point is 00:16:31 you know, if you ever prayed for strength and then your life gets tough and then you complain that you're getting stronger. Like I wake up every day realizing that waking up is more valuable than any amount of cash you could have given me. So when my eyes open, I think to myself, cha-ching. Imagine the feeling you would get if I handed you a million cash, no strings attached. We get excited. We get enthusiastic. We don't care about small issues.
Starting point is 00:16:57 We're not even thinking about the dumb stuff anymore. We're excited, dude. Someone just gave me a million cash. Well, when we wake up, it's far more valuable than a million cash. Wouldn't you agree? excited, dude. Someone just gave me a million cash. Well, when we wake up, it's far more valuable than a million cash. Wouldn't you agree? Oh yeah. Okay. But how come, how come nobody wakes up and, and, and, and takes the time to be thankful for just simply waking up. And when we do that, that's what I do every morning. When we do that, the problems become opportunities. You know, you can't pay your rent. You go to bed, you're, you're, you're freaking out. You're trying to figure out how you're going to pay bills, how you're going to make payroll, how you're going to land the next account, make the next commission, whatever.
Starting point is 00:17:48 realize, dude, would you trade those problems for not waking up? Your answer is, well, hell no. Well, good. If you really believe that, well, then when you wake up, dude, those are not problems. You are fortunate to be able to go and solve those riddles, solve those challenges, you know, jump those hurdles. And as you're doing it, you're becoming stronger, smarter, better, faster. Like it's an opportunity, man. If the world had zero problems, dude, it'd be boring. We'd probably die. Yeah, hopefully not. but I do think you and I aren't exactly alike, but we share that in common. I don't carry problems either. My wife kind of gets mad at me sometimes because she's like,
Starting point is 00:18:35 you never seem phased. I think it's just because I look at the world in a similar way. because I look at the world in a similar way. And I just don't think we have – every problem is an opportunity, and every lesson is something to build upon. There you go. So I love it, brother. I mean, let's talk about Lightspeed.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So at its core, what is Lightspeed VT? Well, that's my company. But we've developed a technology that's also called Lightspeed VT? Well, that's my company, but we've developed a technology that's also called Lightspeed VT. And Lightspeed VT is a web-based interactive training and communication platform people use to train people. You know, so like all those big name subject matter experts, they use it to train people, their philosophies, techniques, disciplines, et cetera, skill sets. You know, companies use it to train people you know on how to put away the dishes or fold the sheets or whatever so it's a training technology that i developed over the last 20 years by accident really because i was you know 30 years
Starting point is 00:19:38 old running this car dealership i had the ability to just take people out of burger kings you know foot lockers. It didn't matter. Landscapers. I just snatched people, turn them into badass salespeople. Next thing you know, they went from minimum wage to making money. And I noticed like how lives would change with a little. You go from minimum wage to 10, 20 grand a month.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Your life changes. And I started realizing, man, I like changing people's life. Like they were, they were, it was just amazing to watch, you know, hardworking individuals that had no ability to make any more money, give them the skill sets to make more money and then watch how their life changed. So that's what I realized, man, I want to do this for a living. So I quit my job. I went out on the road and I started doing it, you know, business to business, just living out of a suitcase. And I, and I, I wasn't getting the, the, the results I was getting. It was crazy. I couldn't figure it out. I'm like, damn dude, I was working here and I was killing it. And now I'm out working for myself and I couldn't make it happen. So I said, I either got
Starting point is 00:20:41 to quit and go back to work or figure it out. So I said, well, what was I doing before? And so I basically walked through what I used to do. And then I'm like, what am I doing now? And I realized it. There were three things that I used to do that I didn't continue to do. When I worked for this organization, I had good content. These are the four things you need to train effectively. You need good content, repetition, practice, and accountability. When I worked at the organization,
Starting point is 00:21:18 I was providing repetition because I worked there every day. We were, you know, practice, drill, rehearse every day. We were role-playing every day. We were repeating it over and over and over. Repetition is the mother of learning. When I went out on the road, I was only there for a day. I said what I said, and then I left. I didn't practice. I didn't role-play. I didn't repeat. Nobody there did it either. So the, the, the reason it wasn't working is because I, I, I failed to deliver the repetition, the practice and the accountability required. So I had no other way to do it other than let me invent a way to where I can deliver the content, deliver the repetition, the practice and the role playing, right? Hold people accountable. And at the time, the internet was just coming out.
Starting point is 00:22:02 So I thought to myself, I wonder if there's a way we could build a technology that allows me to pop up and say what I was going to say and do it repetitiously so I didn't have to live out of a suitcase. And so I developed the first Lightspeed VT system. And then I went out and sold it to a bunch of companies for about a thousand a month to train their team, but with passwords logging into my system you know and then over time we just enhanced it leaderboards communities all these other things but that's what it is it's just a web-based training and communication platform how does it vary you know i see things like teachable you know like is it which is probably less businessy. I don't know. But is it similar to something like that?
Starting point is 00:22:49 Well, it's completely fundamentally different. Is a kiddie pool similar to a water park? Well, you know, I had a feeling we might go there, but yeah. Teachable is just a name. There's nothing in there focused on teaching it's it's it's a video hosting solution right like if you have a video and you want to host it and charge people to access it teachable will let you do that teachable does not have built-in tools that allow you to create interactive lessons interactive, interactive role play and testing. Lightspeed
Starting point is 00:23:26 does. Teachable doesn't have, you know, real time reporting and analytics firing off and doing various different things. It doesn't have leaderboards. It doesn't have community. It doesn't have Q&A. It doesn't have discussion. It doesn't have live stream. It's just a video hosting solution. Most of them out there are just a place to host your video. And a lot of times people think the video, which is the good content, is all you need and it's not. That's why a lot of those fail. Have you ever bought a course on Teachable? No, but I have on one of the platforms and it was just, you know, run-of-the-mill stuff. and it was just, you know, run-of-the-mill stuff. Well, that's because that's all they are. They're not focused on teaching you anything.
Starting point is 00:24:08 They're focused on letting you play a video. And, dude, I watch mixed martial arts. It doesn't make me a black belt. That's true. Speaking of mixed martial arts, Michael Buffer, or Bruce Buffer, excuse me, is coming on the Radcast in three weeks. All right. UFC.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Old Bruce. What's uh family i mean i see you post about family you know like super successful you got a lot of things rolling now uh you know like family seems important to you and i i don't know that maybe people know that side of you you might keep it private but how do you balance like, you know, I'm, this isn't the work life balance thing. I think that's a bullshit question. I'm talking more just the importance and values of a family,
Starting point is 00:24:54 you know, kind of in your life. Um, well, I don't, you know, I, I,
Starting point is 00:25:00 I prioritize, you know, minute by minute, day by day. Like right now, if my wife called and said she needed me, I'd end the podcast. Right. Right. So, I mean, at the end of the day, I think, you know, we go through life and we just have to get good at prioritizing. That's all. And I prioritize family fairly high because they're going to be with you for the rest of your life. So, you know, you really kind of want to make a good investment there. I spent years kind of the opposite where I was gone. I was building a business. I thought, you know, hey, I'll pay it back later. And I
Starting point is 00:25:39 missed a lot of years growing up and a lot of opportunity. So again, at the end of the day, it's just a decision that you make and a priority that you decide on. And then that really drives the balance because I don't think there is any balance. Sometimes I'll go home for, you know, three days straight and not even think about work. Sometimes I'll go to work for three days, not even think about home. Why? Well, because dude, they're fine at home. Everything's good, man. You just spent three days there. Everything's going, going well. Too many times these entrepreneurs are building companies and they're sitting there, you know, listening to the outside world about you need to spend time with your children. Well, dude,
Starting point is 00:26:18 sometimes that's bullshit. Okay. Your kids don't want as much time with you as you might think. And if you, and if you focus on quality time, when you are with them, you can get by with a lot less of it. Now, some people, believe it or not, Ryan, they will use their family and their kids as an excuse because they can't figure out how to become wildly successful. So they go, well, I'm just a family man. Well, dude, trust me, you can do both. they go, well, I'm just a family man. Well, dude, trust me, you can do both. Okay. And not, not only that, but if I was in your family, I would prefer you were wildly successful rather than spending time with me. Like, like go make something that we can all be proud of. And I would, and I would admire you even a little bit more. Now that doesn't mean ignore me.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I'd rather, I'd rather your home. But at the end of the day, dude, you can't use family as an excuse. Like, dude, everyone can be wildly successful. They can also have an incredible family. And yes, it takes a little bit of work. And yes, it takes a little bit of sacrifice. But guess what? It's not rocket science, man. Pay attention.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Your family needs you. Go. Don't worry about work. It's not important. If you had to give one up, which would it be? Well, it'd be your business, I'm sure. Well, at least in my case, it would be. So obviously that's just a priority. It means, Hey, when, when shit hits the fan, family's calling you, you go handle it. And guess what? Every time I've ever left my business without being planned,
Starting point is 00:27:39 I come back. It was still there. Okay. Problems will wait for you. If will wait for you if you're looking at your problems. If you're looking at them like I do, dude, there's opportunities everywhere. Which one is your best opportunity? Well, the opportunity to see my kids comes kind of at a high priority. So I'd just say prioritize, man. Well, hey, man, you get the real Bradley, you get the real talk. That's why I love you, and I love your perspective because most people wouldn't say it that way, but it's the truth.
Starting point is 00:28:14 And it does become the crutch. I do see it. I have friends that will say, yeah, man, I've got the family thing. And I'm like, there's no wonder you're sitting in the same house you've been at, their parents' house house for 30 years. I know you got a book coming out, The Hard Way. Let's talk about it. I know you're on the press now or just got pressed, right?
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah, it's at the printer right now. We're shipping in a couple of weeks what are we uh what are we gonna get when we pick it up when i get it ordered here what what's coming our way dude you're gonna be a badass you're gonna you're gonna be far more confident and you're gonna accelerate five times the speed as if you didn't get it. Now, I wouldn't say everybody because look, these are lessons I learned the hard way so you don't have to. But ironically, you're going to learn them one way or the other. That's the funny part. Like, I'm not going to I'm not going to let you in on little secrets that nobody in the world
Starting point is 00:29:19 knows. Everybody that's successful, everybody that's lived a while and made some mistakes would get that book and go, oh, yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah, absolutely. The question is, is how long is it going to take you to learn them? Are you going to learn them the hard way or are you going to learn them the easy way? And the easy way, ironically, is to pick up the hard way. I like it. Is that on the back cover? No, no, but, uh, you know, it's a book about stories from my life that taught me valuable lessons. And then I tie those lessons
Starting point is 00:29:58 into kind of building the business. And at the end of the day, it's just like a collection of lessons that you're going to learn one way or the other, man. And sometimes the end of the day, it's just like a collection of lessons that you're going to learn one way or the other, man. And sometimes, dude, you're going to pay a big price. It's cheaper just to buy the book, read them and apply them. Because if you read them and you don't apply them, the book's not going to help you at all. But if you're an 18 year old or a 60 year old and you're not where you want to be, it just means you haven't learned these lessons yet. If you learn these lessons that I've put in that book and you apply them, be, it just means you haven't learned these lessons yet. If you learn these lessons that I've put in that book and you apply them, dude, it'll literally change your life. And I
Starting point is 00:30:33 always make fun of people who says, change your life. It will change your life. How did you embrace social media? I mean, you know, like what, when did that light switch pun intended, I guess, uh, you know, go on for you, you know, like, I think, you know, I was on your podcast, talked about personal branding and I'm telling you and your audience about it when you've, you've been embracing it and, you know, it's become, you know, some, I'm sure a mechanism for some amount of your success. Like when did that light switch go on and how do you feel about it? It went on about four or five years ago.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Brightly, it went on a little bit, maybe four or five years before that. Like right when it was coming out, I was like, hey, this is interesting. And man, there sure is a lot of people here. But I didn't put two and two together until until I saw other people leveraging social media to get quite the notoriety. And with attention comes opportunity. So I wanted more opportunity. So what better way than to get attention? And social media is the new television, man. Like, dude, literally, I was walking through the airport the other day, just getting back from a keynote. I land in Vegas. I'm walking through. Someone rolls up.
Starting point is 00:31:46 They're like, dude, Bradley, dude, I listen to your podcast. I'm like, oh, thanks, man. He said, hey, can I take your picture? Boom, I take a picture. I start walking off. Someone walks up. Bradley, the real Bradley, dude, I watch you on TV. And I said, what?
Starting point is 00:32:01 I said, I watch you on TV all the time. I said, I'm not on TV, bro. He said, oh, I mean like Instagram. And I'm like, dude, that guy said TV because that is TV now it is. So once I realized that, you know, I'm glad I did what I did. But, you know, if anybody wants to build a personal brand, in my opinion, you got to think about just content flow. I put content flow into certain categories. Number one is, is, is the source of your content. Where's the, where's the source of your content coming from? Like, for example, this podcast is
Starting point is 00:32:36 a source, you know, uh, coaching somebody is a source working in your office with interacting with people as a source you know things that happen to you on a daily basis keynote speeches are sources so you just figure out what your sources are then the sources lead to the creative someone has to chop up drop edit you know hashtag etc that's your creative then you got to figure out what your outlets are okay well my outlets are instagram facebook youtube linkedin twitter and used to be tiktok but for some reason they what your outlets are. Okay. Well, my outlets are Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, LinkedIn, Twitter, and used to be TikTok. But for some reason, they banned my damn account when I reached a half a million in a month and a half. And a half a million followers in a month and a half, I was posting all
Starting point is 00:33:15 kinds of good stuff, man. You know, good, helpful things, especially for entrepreneurs and, you know, people trying to succeed in life. And all of a sudden I get this thing and it says, dude, your account's been permanently banned for violating our community guidelines. I'm thinking, how the hell is helping people get through challenges community guidelines? Did you have some anti-vaccine stuff going or what? Or was it just purely business? No, no anti-vaccine shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I was keeping it strictly to life lessons, become ethical, be a better person, learn how to close, sell and persuade, learn how to build a personal brand. Just little clips, a little bit of humor. Boom. It banned it. Anyway, but those are your outlets, right? And YouTube. Don't forget YouTube. And then you have frequency, right? How often are you doing
Starting point is 00:34:07 that? And then you have what I call boost, which means how much money are you investing into it? A lot of times people just post, but they're not, they're not investing any money to be seen. Folks, that's the key is if you literally paid whatever it took to get everybody that logged into Facebook every day to see your face for a month, you'd be famous. You may not be liked by everybody, but you'd be famous and you'd have a ton of opportunity coming your way. So if you're taking notes, the source, the creative, the outlet, the frequency and the boost, you figure those out. You're going to build yourself a big-ass personal brand. How much do you think it plays into, like, now that you've embraced it the last four to five years?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Like, if you put a percentage on it, I'm sure you've got data on your ads and things like that, but what percentage would you put, you know, your success right now towards all of those channels well whenever i do the boost part and advertise uh right now for every dollar i put in i end up with nine dollars back according to statistics um which is why i'm starting to put a whole lot more dollars in so if you if you see me now wait you'll see me a lot more here pretty soon. But that's when I'm just advertising. But just the personal brand, you know, it's immeasurable. I get deals all the time because people follow me. They like me. They trust me.
Starting point is 00:35:34 They hear they hear me talking about something that has nothing to do with Lightspeed and they sign up for Lightspeed because of who I am and what I said and what I think and what I believe and, you know, who I'm connected with. And, you know, they see that on social media. They see me hanging out with the big wigs. You know, they see me on my podcast. They see me, you know, with employees. And again, it's social media, not anti-social media. You ever see these people with the private accounts? Yeah. I don't understand. Why are you on social media with a private account? It's like, dude, that's the equivalent of flipping someone off when they say how you doing you know exactly i had that same discussion with someone two days ago i'm like what the
Starting point is 00:36:13 fuck are they doing but i mean if you want a personal private account where you're posting pictures you don't want anybody to see my advice would be don't put them on the internet at all because they're gonna people people have those, man. So what are you hiding? What are you trying to keep private? Because guess what? It's not private if it's on the internet, even if you have a little private account. The only thing private account is stopping is money and attention flowing your way. True, true, true.
Starting point is 00:36:41 As we're closing out here, Brad, droppingpping Bombs is a big player for you. I know you've had, is it 300-plus episodes at this point? We're a lot. We're like over 400. Over 400, 400-plus. Is that just going to keep that going, relationships, meeting people, sharing knowledge? I know it's, you know, I love the statement, you know, when we met, like, you were meant to be in marketing and advertising.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I don't know who wrote the line, but, you know, taking information from those that have it to those that need it. I've never heard it put more concise kind of around exactly what you do. I was seeing a creative brief being written as every time i read some of your stuff but uh i mean it's a big part of your brand i know and i assume it's we're going to continue to see you taking it even further yeah i'm going to continue to do the podcast it's getting pretty popular um we're getting several hundred thousand downloads an episode now. There's people reaching out, wanting to be on it. I got a lot of big names, Jordan B. Peterson,
Starting point is 00:37:50 Charlie Kirk. You know, the names just keep wanting to be on it now. I don't have to try to get anyone on it anymore, fortunately. And the thing you're talking about is what I consider my mission in life. So my mission is to get the knowledge from the people who have it to the people who need it. Because I think the reason why so many people are failing is because they don't have the right information. That's why I do my podcast. That's why I do my company. That's why I do my posts, right? It's to get knowledge from the people who have it to the people who need it so we can all live in a world that's more successful. Well, I'll say this. You are one of them that has it.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Whether by osmosis, by knowledge and curiosity, or just intelligence, probably a combination of three. It's what I admire about you, Brad. You got time for one quick segment. It's called Rad or Fad. I give you a few keywords. You tell me rad or fad. All right. Number one, sales training. A layup to start. Rad. I mean, guys, we're all in sales no matter what position we hold in life.
Starting point is 00:39:00 We're selling somebody on something. The difference between good ones and bad ones are the bad ones don't know they're doing it. They haven't practiced and learned. If you want to be a multi seven, eight, nine figure entrepreneur or an intrapreneur, you got to learn to sell clothes and persuade. You want the best looking girl. You want the best looking guy. You want the best family. You want your kids to be perfect. You want everything. Sell clothes and persuade. Rad. Social selling. Well, again, I would say rad. Why? Well, because, you know, I'm sure as it develops and changes, you know, you have to adapt with it. But social is the new television. It's the new radio station like you better you better master social media and social selling is is a way to reach more people and make more
Starting point is 00:39:51 money in scale so i would say rad now they're not so easy nfts nfts i believe i believe they're going to be around i think there's a lot of people making a lot of money. I do kind of, though, depending on what happens, I'm right. I'm more leaning on fad, but I'd be wrong. I'd be wrong. I was offered Bitcoin when it was like 50 bucks, and I said, dude, that's dumb. So I don't know that I'm the expert, but the NFTs, they're going nuts. I just can't see the value of owning a digital asset that I can't do anything with. I've got the only picture of a gorilla.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Okay, and I need food and I'm hungry. What do I do with that? What if nobody's having any money? You and I think alike, brother. I'm on the, I see what my kids do and i and i go but i'm like i get there that they're putting more value in digital currency and digital things but i'm still like holding on to some hope that somebody's gonna go what the hell is that really worth so so i would go with a rad fad however however the only thing that fad about it is what's being produced as an NFT.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I think the NFT is not a fad. I think the non-fungible token medium is not a fad. And I think it's going to allow artists and individuals the ability to protect and really control their intellectual property. So in that fashion, I would say rad. It's not a fad. NFTs are sticking around. The question is how will we use them is more the fad. Like, you know, purple gorillas with a golden tooth,
Starting point is 00:41:36 that's kind of the fad part. But NFTs, dude, they're here to stay. All right. Last one's sort of fun depending on where you fall. Fire kegs. Fireballs coming out with a keg. It's a of fun depending on where you fall. Fire kegs. Fireball's coming out with a keg. It's a fire keg. Rad or fad?
Starting point is 00:41:54 Fad and highly discouraged. It's a fad, man. First of all, fireball, nasty. Second of all, dude, no matter who you are, unless you're a stone-cold alcoholic, eventually, dude, you get tired of drinking. And to me, anything that you get tired of is a fad. So I'm going to say fad on that one. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:13 We are getting one in the office here. I do own an ad agency. So I said it might raise productivity the first half of the day, then the last half is going to go to hell. But who knows? Well, I'll bet you a thousand cash that it will be gone within, unless you're just holding it to win the bet. It'll be gone and played out within a year or two. Definitely sad. And by the way, it might turn into some other type of alcoholic device, but it's not going to be fireball. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:42:40 You drink at all? Are you a drinker? Do you drink at all? You have a beer? I got Don Julio right there on my desk. But listen, the reason I say that is because when I started my company, I wanted to be real cool and googly, so I brought in a Jaeger machine. I remember those.
Starting point is 00:42:58 That Jaeger machine was all cold and icy and cool for about three months, and then everyone was sick of freaking jagermeister and it became a fad real quick i just want to get some of the fireball we're trying to pitch a couple liquor companies so i thought we might have to do some sketches you know everything has a second purpose here so i put in a bar in next to my boardroom in my lobby it's a full bar you can get any anything you want in there now that is not a fad that's smart in case they say no you got a bar right there let's get it we got that as well so i love it brother hey man where can everybody find the book keep up with everything brad lee
Starting point is 00:43:36 bradlee.com which by the way is l-e-a most people, is that Leah? And I say, I don't know. Do you drink tea? The book's going to be there. We can find it there. We can follow all the channels. Pretty soon it'll be on Amazon and Kindle and all the places you can find books. But I got to share revenue. If you buy it through one of those, just go to bradlee.com. share revenue if you buy it through one of those. Just go to bradlee.com. Smart man. I love it.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Go find bradlee at bradlee.com. I appreciate you, Brad. I love keeping up with you and hope to always stay in touch. Likewise, man. Hey, man, this is Ryan Alford. This has been the Radcast. You know where to find us. We're at theradcast.com.
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