Right About Now with Ryan Alford - Dr. John Jaquish - Scientist, Wall Street Journal Best Selling Author, Partner w/ Tony Robbins, Inventor & Philanthropist

Episode Date: February 1, 2022

Welcome to another episode of The Radcast! In this episode on The Radcast, host Ryan Alford talks with Dr. John Jaquish, Scientist, Wall Street Journal Best Selling Author, Partner w/ Tony Robbins, Inventor & Philanthropist.Dr. John talks about his inspiration for realizing the development of health and biomedical engineering and why he decided to pursue this path. He also talks about the circumstances he encountered that made him decide what he really wanted to do.Ryan and Dr. John also discuss how the X3 technology’s approach is different from any other technology invented in this day and age. Dr. John shares the time he decided to have a partnership with Tony Robbins and Osteostrong. He also talks about how he believes social media has influenced people on maintaining a healthy lifestyle and improving their body’s strength through training.Learn more about Dr. John Jaquish you can visit his website: https://www.jaquishbiomedical.com/. Follow him on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/john-jaquish-ph-d-790b846 and Instagram @drjaquish.If you enjoyed this episode of The Radcast, let us know by visiting our website www.theradcast.com. Check out www.theradicalformula.com Like, Share and Subscribe on our YouTube account https://bit.ly/3iHGk44 or leave us a review on Apple Podcast. Be sure to keep up with all that’s radical from @ryanalford @radical_results @the.rad.cast If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, join Ryan’s newsletter https://ryanalford.com/newsletter/ to get Ferrari level advice daily for FREE.  Learn how to build a 7 figure business from your personal brand by signing up for a FREE introduction to personal branding https://ryanalford.com/personalbranding.  Learn more by visiting our website at www.ryanisright.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel  www.youtube.com/@RightAboutNowwithRyanAlford. 

I met a guy who, uh, I'm glad he had the foresight for this. He says, this is only going to work in a franchise model. To them, it's not about knowing what's right. It's knowing that they're right. When you're doing something like that, you really have to try and understand your audience and what they would need to understand what you're saying. to understand what you're saying. You're listening to the Radcast. If it's radical, we cover it.

Here's your host, Ryan Alford. Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the latest edition of the Radcast. We're getting radically fit today, folks. Radical. Radical fit. I was like, I can't believe it. Dr. John Jaquish, what's up, brother? Hey, thanks for having me. Hey, man, I can't believe it. I was like reading, I listened to Dropping Bombs, Bradley and our buddies. I know you're on there. And I was like, I gotta talk to this guy. I was like, I want our audience to hear this because I know you've been out there but uh i was excited to get you on and really appreciate you coming in studio well it's gonna be a better show because you're gonna ask better questions than brad did are you messing

on brad oh yeah i i can give i can give brad a bit of a hard time but brad loves giving everybody else a hard time exactly you know he can dish dish it. For the right kind of person. Yeah, he likes to dish it. I'm not sure he likes to take it. Probably not. But, doctor, you know, best-selling author. We're going to talk about weightlifting as a waste of time. That's the attention-getter in and of itself.

That's the title of my book. And the X3 bar. Doctor, let's just start with you man let's start with your background let's give everybody a taste for everything that you've been doing you've been up to and we'll start there and then we'll dig into some of your journey and all those things sure uh got started in life sciences i like i had an mda at the time like uh just finished undergrad went to my master's uh was doing marketing sales for a software company and uh i had always wanted to go to school for medicine but my father wouldn't pay for that so uh it's like all right what will you pay for

uh so no med school for you well and, and he told me later on, you were going to do the medical thing anyway, because like, he knows me, he knows when I read a book and I'm interested in it. I remember every word I can tell you what's on, you know, page 65. Uh, so he kind of just knew that that was going to happen. And so what ended up happening was after, as I was working, my mother was diagnosed with osteoporosis. And for those of you that don't know, it's increasing the porosity of bone or the porousness. It's literally what that means. So the bone becomes more brittle and is more likely to fracture. And a fracture in the hip joint after the age of 50 holds a 50% chance of death within one year.

So it's a big deal. And actually osteoporotic fractures, they're right in line. About the same amount of people are killed by breast cancer every year than by osteoporotic fractures. Wow, you don't hear about it as much. No, you don't. Well, it's because breast cancer is what does you in as opposed to the complications.

So it's a little less dramatic. It's like, oh, yeah, my you know, my mother slipped and fell. She broke her hip. She was in the hospital. She got fluid in her lungs, got pneumonia, couldn't move around, couldn't heal from the pneumonia and eventually got her. And so that was like the kind of story that you'd hear all the time about osteoporosis and my mother was terrified and also she was very active back then and uh she still is now so uh i just felt sorry for her i felt like she wasn't going to be able to live her life anymore and so i told her

let me read up on this let me let me understand more about bone health and the approach i took was very different uh i looked at how humans build bone density in the first place so the way we build bone density is through high impact activity little kids you a house with little kids and they run around, they sound like elephants, but they only weigh like 50 pounds. They're pounding their heels on the ground, which gives them impact all the way through the spine. And that high impact, that abrupt force through the bone mass, will trigger bone growth.

Now, the minimum dose response for the hip joint is beyond 4.2 multiples of body weight as an adult so uh people aren't getting that in the gym which is why so many people have a bone density challenge later in life even when they work out or go running or whatever and uh now that i had worked in the field for a while, it's something I heard every day when somebody would say, well, yeah, yeah, but I work out.

I don't understand why I'd have this problem. Yeah, right. You need to put 4.2 multiples of your own body weight through your hip joint. You're not doing that. Like, I don't need to go to the gym with you i know you're not like pro athletes don't do that yeah so something needed to be developed that was different and so what i did was developed a series of impact emulation devices so gives you the

benefit of high impact places you in the position where you'd normally absorb the highest forces so like in the upper body um back of the hand in line with the clavicle 120 degree angle upper to lower arm that's how i would either absorb or produce the greatest amount of force so taking that research and and how to position the body like that, I did and developed a bunch of prototypes. And now Osseostrong is hugely successful. We're in 10 different countries, 150 locations. Wow. And Tony Robbins got involved, right?

That's right. Tony Robbins is a partner in the business. How did that come to fruition? Probably the way, like, the best connections I've made in life. Yeah. I just did the right things to make these people come at me. Because most of the people where you want to get their attention, they've got hundreds of thousands of people trying to get their attention.

And you're probably not going to get it unless they notice you first. Yeah. thousands of people trying to get their attention and you're probably not going to get it unless they notice you first yeah and like i've had strategies of trying to get in front of certain people because i want to show them very like influential physicians right professors like they're being courted by pharma companies and stuff it's just like they've just you got to do whatever it is where you just happen to be in front of them all the time. Yeah, so one day I just get a call at my office and my assistant hands me the phones. Some guy wants to buy the devices. I'm like, okay.

Take the call. And guy said his name is Tony. Just Tony. Just that was it. But the voice sounded really familiar because he is a distinct voice but i didn't put it together who he was right and he's like yeah i want i want one of your uh one of your whole setups i want i want uh i want all of them and i'm like well tony because i didn't know who he was. Like, uh, cost me like $300,000 to put these prototypes together.

That's all I have. Prototypes. Uh, these aren't in production. He goes, I'll pay $300,000 for that. And I'm like, who is this?

Yeah. What's your last name? And he laughs and he goes, this is Tony Robbins. And I was like, okay, all right, now it's making sense.

And I'm like, tony uh you're gonna help me get this all over the world if i get you one of these things that cost because yeah absolutely all right so screwed one together went down to at the time he had a place in um kind of near Palm Desert. Yeah. Like it was in Palm Desert. Yeah, Palm Desert. I hit a great house on a golf course. It was amazing. And I installed it at his house and showed him how to use it, and we hung out for hours.

It was great. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not every day does the phone ring, and it's Tony Robbins all the time. But I think if you're doing the right things, you end up attracting. That's right. The law of attraction, manifestation. Yeah.

Yeah. There's a lot of distortions of that. I think people write the word Lamborghini on the back of their hand. They're like, all right, one of them is just going to show up at any moment. No, you got to work. You got to work for it. That's interesting, though. So how is it distributed now?

How is it working? How do you, does someone that wants to use it or, you know? So I met a guy who, I'm glad he had the foresight for this. He says, this is only going to work in a franchise model. Yeah. And so Tony was already sort of involved talking to me, but this guy showed up and he goes, I want to make it into a franchise and I want to get all over the world.

And that's the fastest way to grow. And that's the only way to grow is because as soon as people find out about it, they're going to want to do it. You don't want people to find out about it. And then the center shows up in their, in their town 10 years later, like they have long forgotten about it they're going to want to do it you don't want people to find out about it and then the center shows up in their in their town 10 years later like they have long forgotten about it yeah so um uh his name's kyle he's the ceo of the company so he he put the company together uh raise the money and and uh and then i'm licensing my intellectual property to that.

Because I don't know anything about running a franchise. So I'm just sort of the science. Great. Yeah. So let's transition. I mean, you're a doctor. You're obviously a super smart dude. But I'm hearing entrepreneur.

There's some people who would argue with that. All right. Usually they can't spell, though. Yeah. They're the bodybuilding community. But we don't count the trolls. They'll say you're dumb. And they misspell spell, though. Yeah. They're the bodybuilding community. So, yeah. We don't count the trolls. They'll say you're dumb and they misspell your and they misspell dumb.

Okay. But you sound like an entrepreneur, though. I mean, is that a thread of everything? I mean, are you an entrepreneur at heart? Yeah. Is that come natural to you? It does. Yeah. I think I see the same problems that everybody else does but i see different ways

of solving them and uh it's just a way of thinking like how else would we solve that problem it amazes me how few people ask themselves that question like when you can think of hundreds of different examples uh my favorite one is the iphone like every tech reviewer with the exception of walter mossberg at the wall street journal said the iphone was going to not only fail it was going to cause apple to go bankrupt yeah now the wealthiest company there has ever been um i think their market cap report comes out today yeah maybe later today i didn't see it but i know it's going to be ridiculous so um when the iphone came out everyone said well it doesn't have a keyboard because back then blackberry was the thing and had a really nice keyboard where every button you push you could feel the click and everyone's like

oh it doesn't get better than this. I was involved with launching the iPhone. Okay. Nice. Very aware of it. Worked with Verizon Wireless in their marketing. Okay. Yes.

Yeah. I was very involved in all of those discussions of the BlackBerry versus the slider device and not having a keyboard. No one's ever going to use a touchscreen. Yeah. Yeah. You're exactly right. People were saying that. And Walter Mossberg just said, you might think you know everything about touch screens but i promise you

don't because he read the technical documentation and i don't think he knew exactly how it was going to work but he knew it was nothing anyone had ever seen before so his his attitude was just don't assume. Try it. Yeah. And I think, like I was technological marvel, I think what I did for exercise science when I invented the X3, the X3 is much more simple and elegant. But it works better than anything that has ever been out there uh variable resistance works better than anything that's ever been out there and for some reason the fitness industry is

very slow to understand or apply that uh i think part of it is there's just a the ability to understand science is, is really lacking in fitness. Like, uh, there are sports scientists, like most of them go into coaching for, uh,

like strength conditioning coaching for, uh, NFL, NBA, college teams, uh, like in, in,

while they know what they're talking about, it doesn't really, the knowledge doesn't really make it into industry. Because the fitness industry is really selling supplements and selling gym memberships. So there's not a lot of motivation to actually help people get results. Unless it happens to be with their, you know, whatever, fat loss product or or whatever right yeah and so uh it ends up being a kind of a i think fitness discussions especially online really degrade to to like an achieved ignorance so it's like people went out of their way to learn sort of the way things are in quotes

but the way things are is wrong and i could disprove the way people approach cardio i can disprove the way people approach strength and those are really the only two things they're out there doing yeah so yeah and that's so the full title of my book is weight lifting is a waste of time and so is cardio there's a Better Way to Have the Body You Want. Where did the passion, did it all start with the osteoporosis and your mom? Is that the passion for fitness? It all centered from there and built? Yeah, I never would have entered into fitness ever.

I thought it was a dumb industry catering to highly unintelligent people. And you only need to go on like, like, just read the comments on a generation iron article. Like you'll fall on the floor laughing, like almost every word misspelled, either no punctuation or punctuation all misused blows, blows my mind. uh there's just something about the lowest common denominator in an interest in fitness which and i think your your listeners will appreciate this at first we targeted a little more traditional audience with x3 so when launching the fitness product developed the most ultimate strength building muscle building product and it's cheap by comparison most people have a home gym they spent five thousand dollars on it this one's five hundred

dollars so but instead of like they didn't they just didn't get it they didn't understand why variable resistance was better and then you show them a bunch of studies and they can't there's no way they can read them so it's almost like it's written in a different language so so we pivoted really quick and i think any entrepreneur needs to realize like you got to be able like your your advantage is a new company and as a person who's doing something that's never been done before, you can change your strategy in an afternoon. Whereas a huge company can't do that. They can't turn the ship fast enough. Right.

Right. But so immediately when we started looking at busy professionals, well, busy professionals, so they're smarter. So they won't go to the gym and get no results year after after year after year a stupid person will do that and just think one day they'll just wake up and look like arnold schwarzenegger even though nothing's happening um a smart person just won't do it they'll say like well you know i'm doing what i was told to do but something's missing so i may just uh take a hiatus from fitness for now until I come across some better information.

And that was like the majority of the people that were first into X3. And they just said, yeah, like everything you're saying is right. Like I tried doing everything like everybody else was doing it and just got no results out of it. And I also, I laugh at the fitness industry because people are so like passionate about supporting the traditional way of doing it yet almost nobody's fit like you walk in and i'm not talking about gold's gym in venice california

that's where all the pro bodybuilders train yeah most of them are not naturally trained anyway so they're taking all kinds of drugs and that's up to them that's fine but um if you go into a planet fitness anywhere in america the people in there look no different than the people at the pizza hut like like where are the results why is it that everybody i know with a really good six-pack has a supplement contract think about that like it is so rare to have a really chiseled abdomen and it's so rare that the people that have that are paid to show it next to a bottle of whatever yeah yeah and and if it's if really only one-tenth of 1% or one-one-hundredth of 1% are really that impressive level of fitness,

well then why is everybody doing what they've been doing? Now, of course, the real answer is genetic, but it's not hormonally genetic. It has to do with where their tendons attach. So some people have an advantageous tendon layout so instead of like like like my pectoral origin is on my sternum but the attachment is right under the bicep but some people have a mutation so it's on the other

side of the bone they have a longer lever and that lever is elastic in itself. So, like, I think it's so funny. But you see, what you're describing is that the problem, though, is, you know, let's be honest here. If it's the average is what, fifth grade reading level? Yeah. Like, you're too smart and too intelligent for your own good when trying to market and sell the product. Because, like, it's just easier to say five-minute abs. Right. You know, or, you know.

Simplistic messages, they do get a lot more attention, but they're not working. No. Yeah. That's just what people want to hear, you know. Oh, I know. It's crazy. It is funny what people want to hear.

And I used the term a minute ago, achieved ignorance. Yes. I came up with that. And I'm going to try and drill that in the term a minute ago achieved ignorance yes i uh i came up with that and i i'm gonna i'm gonna try and drill that in everyone's head i i like that term uh and you know either side of politics there are people who like you'll see their position on things and it's like wow you went way out of your way to be misinformed yes like you tried hard to only read the things that reinforce your existing opinion and you absolutely ignore the rest of it so it's achieved like you worked hard at being this uh stupid and and most people are like that and and whether it's weight lifting or or politics i see

people on political issues like just not even understanding the words they're using but they don't care because it's not to them it's not about knowing what made you develop the x3 like what was this i've read all as much as i could read i was going through your website reading all the reviews all the science behind it but like where did the prototype for the x3 like come from like what was the what was the origination of that that's a good story the uh the physicians in the clinical trial in london were like we're putting like incredible amounts of force to the body this is with the bone density device uh like what do people use when they go to a gym like what kind of weight like this seems like the forces are so high because these postmenopausal women,

that's the subject of the study were postmenopausal women. They were putting six, seven, eight, nine times their body weight through their lower extremities. Remember, the minimum dose response is 4.2. So they're going way beyond that. And so I said, okay, I'll find out what people normally put through the body. Now, of course, when it's weightlifting data, it's full range training data. So weak range and impact range.

So like in a push-up or chest press, the weak part's all the way back here. like a push-up or chest press the weak parts all the way back here so it turns out that most people who are beginning can lift 1.3 times their body weight and the advanced lifters meaning like the top 10 percent are 1.53 times their body weight so not a lot of strength gain there uh but that's the way now of course somebody will be like oh oh, I leg press like 1,000 pounds. Yeah, a leg press is like a parlor trick. Because most of the weight's going into the ground because you're pushing it at a 45-degree angle. It's called leverage.

Right. I can push a car. A car weighs 4,000 pounds. Does that mean I can bench press 4,000 pounds? No. So, yeah, I mean, like, true raw weight, like, you know, either on your shoulders or on, you know, like doing a front squat for a minute, like on your clavicle,

1.53 is the highest levels of loading that the top 10% of people see. Now, I was blown away. Like, okay, so the human body is capable of so much more. And we're just not tapping that potential. So when you're in the stronger range of motion, you're capable, and I did this by comparing the different data sets, you're seven times more powerful in the impact-ready range of motion than you are in the weaker range of motion you're capable and i did this by comparing the the different data sets you're seven

times more powerful in the impact ready range of motion than you are in the weaker range of motion but when we lift we only pick the weight based on the weaker range of motion so in the weaker range of motion is the only place you're stimulating muscle which by the way you have the least amount of muscle firing and you're getting the most cumulative joint damage so and uh you know peter attia is dr attia heard of that name yeah i don't know where but i have a smart guy he's got a podcast called the drive maybe that was uh yeah uh mostly medical okay yeah and he talks about my this is my problem with weight lifting is that you overload joints and under load muscle and uh and it was great

somebody sent that to me and he probably said it like the same time like right then when i was working on this and i'm like wow like that guy identified the problem perfectly that is the problem with weight training like it just doesn't place force where it should but it places a lot of force where it shouldn't. And so what if we had a weight that we could change as we move? Now we've had band training for a long time, but problem is bands, most bands that people have seen are just weak, you know, five pounds. That might be great for like rehabbing your shoulder, but it's not great for anything else. but it's not great for anything else um or the bands can get more powerful and that and i ended up making my own bands because there wasn't anything powerful enough and uh what we saw

was that if you tried to use these this banding just by itself uh you could really hurt yourself so like like if you stand on a on a heavy band and try and do like a deadlift with it well your ankles are getting lateral force it only takes seven pounds of lateral force to break an ankle but when i deadlift with the x3 i deadlift over 600 pounds wow so i do not want that force going into the ankle joint in any sort of lateral way so we needed interfaces we needed a new ground to stand on which allowed the banding to run underneath unencumbered and we needed an olympic bar so the wrist could rotate but you could always stay neutral my olympic bar is actually a pretty smart invention yeah because the rotation yeah so so a bar that could handle that rotation and hang on to hundreds and hundreds of pounds of banding

and then the plate and so uh then then after developing that at first i thought about just writing a book about you know band training and then it's just like but the problem is you a band by itself is worthless and and we've known this because a lot of people have made the observation that you have a strong range and a weak range and while banding could really help but then they start doing like a curl with bands and then they're like oh my wrist hurts so bad right because your wrists are being twisted outward the whole time you're doing it so you can't really get a workout there like a you have a process called neural inhibition which just shuts your body down shuts muscles off because you're receiving pain yeah or you actually create a real injury and then you're not training at all

what's the what's the program with the x3 like what's what you know kind of listeners through what the uh structure of the program the workout routine is like so uh i do it six days a week okay uh you start off by doing it four days a week do you do anything else besides the x nothing and you're i mean everybody watching the video if you listening, you can't see it, but this is why you should be watching the IGTV or YouTube. Simple plug. But you look great. Thanks, man. I mean, I'm in better shape than I ever imagined I would ever be in.

I'm best shape of my life, 45 years old. I have veins showing in my abs. I'm 240 pounds, 6 feet tall. I frequently cannot believe I'm in the condition I'm in. I have zero pain. I wake up feeling just like I did when I was 18 years old. Like nothing hurts. And I actually have two hemorrhage discs in my back from rugby.

I just don't feel them. I mean, they're still there. It's a permanent injury. But I have so much muscle supporting my spine because of the X3 deadlift. And here's another thing. I can deadlift with 600 pounds for very high repetitions, 20, 30 repetitions. But the risk is almost gone. Like deadlift is, we all know, it's like one of the best exercises for your entire body. Your trapezius, like from the base of your skull

all the way down to your heels, like the whole backside of your body is involved in the deadlift. Most people don't do it though because they've hurt their backs doing it. So you're in your 20s and you go for a record deadlift and you feel a little pinch and then you wake up the next morning and you're twisted a record deadlift and you feel a little pinch and then you wake up the next morning and you're twisted up like a pretzel and a couple months later when you're able to walk again,

you're like, yep, not doing that heavy deadlifting again. And that's the end of people's heavy deadlifting. And in fact, the NFL guys that I work with and the NBA guys, they're not allowed to do anything heavy because if they get injured, they can lose their contract. In fact, NFL players, they may have a contract with a,

with a dollar amount, but that, that compensation is parsed out on a per game basis. If they miss a game, they get paid zero. Yeah. Like it's all about the game. So if you get hurt during training, that's on you. Yep.

And so they really try and have them do things that are going to lower the risk. And getting stronger is like a distant second to keeping from getting injured. So they, of course course love x3 uh then you can see them all on the website i think i got 19 nfl players gave me their endorsement for free a lot more nfl players use it that would not give me their endorsement for free for obvious reasons you know i mean it's your i can't blame him for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a guy. I think he used to be in New England.

He's a pretty good quarterback. I've heard of him. Yeah. And there's others. They might play in Florida now? You know, I'm not keeping track. Okay. But, yeah, I mean, like I can't mention the names of a lot of guys who use it

because it's their brand, I understand. But. I mean, like I can't mention the names of a lot of guys who use it because it's a brand I understand. But but what about for the average Joe listening? That's, you know, maybe they're working out now. They're listening to this podcast going, holy shit. I've been everything I've ever read and been taught about weightlifting may or may not be true. Not what is what's this you're six days a week but what's the standard recommended routine you know days a week i do exactly what i tell okay how long how long a day for the average person and i mean how long do you go uh so it's supposed to be a 10 minute

workout but the larger your muscles become the the more blood, obviously, that muscle draws. So when I train my legs, my legs are big. I mean, I'm hands and knees gasping for air at the end of a set. And it takes me a couple minutes to catch my breath. So it takes me a little bit longer than 10 minutes. We have, like if somebody looks at the forum, we have a forum on facebook

um there's a guy named daniel is a 300 pound bodybuilder um he's six five i think like when that guy's done with his set same thing just gasping for air it's because the muscle's larger yeah you know when you see like a like a 14 year old kid doing bicep curls at the gym he can go to fatigue in like five seconds after he's done, he's like, okay, on to the next one. And a bigger guy looks at that and like... Coincidentally, this is where

the myth comes from, that big, strong guys have terrible cardiovascular endurance. No, we don't. We just have a bigger engine. So it's like there's a guy I used to go to Russia with and we'd always switch planes in Munich. And Munich is,

I think one of the worst airports in the world. Cause they make you run up and down the stairs like four times. Cause you got to go through immigration and then they got to look in your bag, even though you're going on to another country anyway. Uh, and so you're running up and down the stairs four times and then you get to your connecting flight and of course i'm like gasping for air because i'm you know skipping

steps and my buddy who's weighs 100 pounds less than me he's british guy and he's like oh your cardiovascular is terrible and i'm like no you're just the size of a woman and when you contract your quadriceps there's just not oh you there's just not a lot of meat there. With me, there's three, four times as much, so it's a bigger draw on my heart, which makes it seem like I'm out of breath, but my cardiovascular health is potentially greater than yours because endurance and health are not the same thing.

So, and coincidentally, there's a meta-analysis that I referenced in the book that is the collection of 100 different studies averaged all together. It turns out the strength training is better for cardiovascular health than cardiovascular activity, what we call cardiovascular activity.

Of course, the irony is, does your body know the difference between cardio exercise and strength? No, of course not. You're moving, you're contracting muscles, blood's moving around. Cardio is just really lousy strength training that has no effect.

I mean, it does a little bit on the heart, but certainly not on musculature. If anything, you upregulate cortisol and you diminish your musculature while protecting your body fat. Most people don't realize chronic cardio will keep you as fat as possible for as long as possible, all while getting rid of muscle, which is exactly the opposite of what people think they're getting. And there's 40 years of research here. But like I said, the fitness industry can't read research yeah well people are comfortable they like getting on those machines for 45 minutes and uh i think i really breathe it hard i think it's it's kind

of a marketing thing like people who market cardio equipment it's a high margin business right yeah i mean you sell like a peloton or you sell a treadmill for a couple thousand dollars. Like you've got a marketing budget that can convince people that that's exactly what they need. The only thing missing in their life is a giant piece of cardio equipment, you know, in their guest bedroom. Yeah. They look so nice. Yeah. Right. Uh, and, uh, I always love seeing the conversals, you know, it says pimp, you know, New York, Manhattan, condo. And you look out the window and you've got a beautiful apartment. You've got a bike in the corner. It's like, I could go without the bike.

Right, right, exactly, exactly. Yeah, they always show like some epic view. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You're killing the view with that bike. We see an X3 in the picture. Yeah. I bet it tucks away in the closet nicely. Because I'm about to order one when I get out of this room.

I can tell you that right now. Yeah, I mean, your X3 will fit in a drawer when you're done with it. I love it. But obviously, I know you talk about this in the book, and I've noticed the growth of the site and the other things. It's certainly about the workout, but diet is more important. It's escaping. Yeah.

Yeah, and it's a couple of things it's one most people are protein underfed they don't get enough protein or enough quality protein um and there's and there's and there's really bad information that's being pushed all the time uh vegan sources of protein like yeah i mean you can eat pea protein all day long but it's not utilized by the body which we measure by nitrogen output waste uh protein that is digested and becomes waste is seen as nitrogen in both urine and fecal matter and we can measure that so so when you have like vegetable sourced protein less than nine percent of it actually goes into building your tissue the other 91 percent or potentially more than that uh just goes through and form a waste so you are now part of the part of the problem the humans have like in comparison to some primates is our

intestines are like one-third the length so like animals can draw more nutrients out of certain things but we just can't which our intestines are not long enough so uh we're genetically better at consuming more dense nutrient dense foods and really the thing that matters is the essential amino acids so not necessarily protein per se because you know like uh steak is 38 available eggs are 48 available uh for utilization by the body so not not not anything's uh 100 other than bacterial fermentation that's you asked about the product that came out with fortigen yeah yeah that's bacterial fermentation it's basically 100 utilized by the body and so like i'll do four doses of that so which would equal per day 200 grams of protein and then i only eat one meal a day so that keeps me down right now all the time until i get to a percentage body fat that is

uncomfortable so i want to take it to where i feel like it's difficult to manage or I'm just not happy there, you know, like it's uncomfortable. So right now, um, my latest experiment, which is after the book, the book came out about a year ago. So, um, so I'm doing dry fasting 20 hours a day. So no food, no water for 20 hours then i hydrate do my workout uh and have a sizable meal and then uh after about four hours i stop all fluids and then repeat the process um dry fasting by the way i know that's going to be your next question yep why would you dry fast yes why dry fast so your body can only become so dehydrated um also a lot of what you're told about dehydration and hydration are kind of silly

like the idea that we need eight glasses of water a day yeah that was never in any study ever in fact there's a study in 1945 that shows that if you just eat regular food there's enough moisture in the food that you don't need to drink any liquids at all. So that's the science. So I love when you turn on the news and you're like, oh, we're going by the science here. And then they do something that's completely. So there's no benefit of the filtration that water, you know, like, I mean, I've read that. It seems like that's the one thing that stood the test of time is people saying, if you want to lose weight, drink a lot of water.

If you want to, you know. I mean, there's so – it's not like water is keeping you from losing weight. Right. However. Yeah. Maybe it's that waffle you had this morning with lots of syrup. Right, right. So when you get a little bit dehydrated,

your body has another source of water it can tap into. It's called metabolic water. Right. It's the water that's in fat cells. So as the body starts drawing water out of the fat cells, the fat cells can destroy themselves, which is a more permanent type of weight loss than caloric restriction or even intermittent fasting.

type of weight loss than caloric restriction or even intermittent fasting. So, and there's so much nutritional argument going on right now, like between intermittent fasting and caloric restriction. I do both. Like both of them have merit. I don't know why you wouldn't do both. But fasting does have some unique benefits. So intermittent fasting for you is how many days without food? Oh, I've gone five days with no food,

but I was well hydrated during that period. Now, you don't want to drive fast for more than 20 hours. Yeah. And not because something bad happens after 20 hours that we know of. We don't. Not because something bad happens after 20 hours that we know of. We don't. But that's pretty much the longest Ramadan fast that's been done.

And that's so you can't, based on like human ethics boards at universities, tell people they can't eat or drink. But if someone's doing it for religious reasons, like with Ramadan, we can study that. And more than a billion people do it every year and have done so for hundreds and hundreds of years, and nobody's ever been hurt. Most intermittent fasting, I think that I've done it a few times myself, is like 16 hours. You can eat from 11 to 7,

but then from 7 to 11, 7 p.m. to 11, you don't eat. I mean, something like that. Yeah, so that would be more like a 20-hour fast period. I'm doing the same thing dry fasted. Okay. So a dry fasting gives you results two or three times quicker with fat loss. And it also accelerates autophagy, so cellular regeneration. In fact, like I used to have a couple of scars.

Like I had my fraternity letters branded into my arm. And it was super thick. You could see it, you know, even years and years after being in the fraternity house. But as soon as I started intermittent fasting and going into autophagy, like the scar started eating itself from the inside. It's almost gone now. In fact, there are people who look at it and they're like, did you have your fraternity brand removed?

No, it's just eating itself from the inside so that's crazy let me ask you a different question so i i talk with people that are successful all the time like yourself and you know steering you a little bit away from the the fitness and the uh chemistry of all of this talk about what are your variables for success? What's made you successful? I always like to ask entrepreneurs that I bring on the show, if you have, if you boiled, you know, if you've thought long enough or if you boil it down to like certain characteristics.

So I've probably, so the hardest thing to do as an entrepreneur is to launch something no one's ever seen before. New concept. And I've done that twice. So the bone density device was like nobody had ever seen anything like that before. And I had to argue with physicians all over the world. Like I spent like seven years flying everywhere talking about it. I just like, I would not even know what country i was in sometimes i'd just be like wake up at some conference center or be at some

conference center and i'm like where am i you know like what country am i in okay yeah um and so that like when you're doing something like that you really have to try and understand your audience and what they would need to understand what you're saying so like as soon as i realized physicians they don't care about how shiny your brochure is or how good your website is at all. In fact, if you just give them data, you just send them a spreadsheet and say, what we got out of the study, here's the data. Some of the publications were just worded in an academic manner and published. And as long as it went through peer review and it had the statistical significance they were looking for, that was it.

It's honestly a really refreshing group of people to deal with because all they need is the evidence. group of people to deal with because all they need is the evidence right but when it comes to the consumer and also now we you know we live in a time where i think there's science is highly misrepresented especially in this pandemic uh so you know it's like they say three or four things and they say well we're doing this by the science and if you're aware of the science like okay every single thing you're doing this by the science. And if you're aware of the science, like, okay, every single thing you're doing is against what the science would tell you to do. So it's just like something they say.

So it's kind of lost. It's, uh, what it should mean. Yeah. Science in general. Yeah. But,

uh, it's okay because it forced me, because i said you got to learn how to how to communicate and each group that you're marketing to is just they might just communicate in a different way so i really started summarizing the science but i'm also careful not to oversimplify oversimplify oversimplification is just another word for wrong right uh so really worked hard at trying to get uh some of these things explained in a way where at least a portion of the population would get it because at some point your market isn't is never everybody yeah it's the group of people who's most likely to understand because when they get it

other people will just look at them and go okay so that works like i don't understand any of that science crap but okay yep yep i love it what's um as we wrap up here tell me where everybody can kind of keep up with all things dr jayquish okay and you know find the x3 sure and and where i'm going to be ordering fortigen lately later sure i've got a tired of whey protein anyway i was like well uh that's only 18 usable by the i know i'm like damn i'm wasting a lot of stuff it's so funny like So many people think the key to their success is their whey protein. And a lot of times, I just don't want to say it. They'll come on the forum. They're like, I got X3, and I have six months of whey protein.

I've been saving for the start of this. And I'm like, ugh. All right. I'll let somebody else break them the bad news. So I created a landing page. My last name is kind of difficult for some people to spell. So my webpage is just drj.com, D-O-C-T-O-R, the letter J.com. Hey, I remember that, Dr. J.

That's right. That's right. Well, Julius Irving's fishing right now, so he doesn't need it. He doesn't need it. No. That's right. Well, Julius Irving's fishing right now, so he doesn't need it. He doesn't need it.

No. So I probably do the most on Instagram. If you're going to follow me on one social media venue, that'd be it. That's cool, man. Yeah, and you can find everything. X3bar.com still. Yeah, X3bar.com. But if you go to DrJ.com, there's a link. So it'll say Superior Exercise and Superior Nutrition.

Superior Nutrition takes you to ForteGen. Superior Exercise takes you to the X3 Bar website. Cool, brother. Yeah. Man, I really appreciate you coming on. Thanks for having me. Hey, it's great. I like the Radcast is all about breaking trends, you know.

I want people to get out there and get off the damn exercise equipment and do something that really works. That's right. I love it, brother. Hey, guys, you know where to find us. We're at theradcast.com. Search for all the content today. Search for X3 Bar.

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