Right About Now with Ryan Alford - The Week of February 03, 2023 Marketing and Business News: Heinz Says It’s Time to Ditch Roman Numeral for Super Bowl 57
Episode Date: February 3, 2023Welcome to The Radcast, where you can keep up with the trends and beat your competition! Ryan Alford, Christina Yasi & Nick Weaver have something special in store for all of our badass listeners. Whet...her it's business or marketing related - The Radcast is always one step ahead by bringing you what's hot right now. Get ready folks because this must hear update is gonna make sure that everyone has their finger on the pulse! Listen and learn.Small Talk:Tom Brady announces retirement from NFL ‘for good’ after 23 seasons (01:00)Heinz says it’s time to ditch Roman numerals for Super Bowl 57 (03:35)Martha Stewart makes Metaverse debut with Oreo (07:23) RadnewsLast week - Biggest Badass Businesses - Howie P, Bruce Buffer, Sawyer Hemsley, Kyle Creek (11:50)Next week - Mike C-roc Part 2 (13:25) Sponsor (13:47)VAYCAY - best 3rd party lab tested CBD in the country https://takeavaycay.com/Disposables - Delta 8 & THCDelta 8 gummies Social Media HolidaysFebruary 5: National Weatherperson’s Day #NationalWeatherpersonsDay (17:06)February 7: National Send a Card to a Friend Day #SendACardToAFriendDay (17:56)February 8: Safer Internet Day and National Boy Scouts Day #BoyScoutsDay (19:00)February 9: National Pizza Day #NationalPizzaDay (19:56) Social Media NewsHow livestreamed e-commerce drives conversions and builds community (20:36)What TikTok’s shifting US presence means for social media (23:24) https://www.marketingdive.com/news/tiktok-data-privacy-concerns-social-media/641218/Spotify’s test of a Friends tab on mobile hints at expanded social ambitions (28:37)https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/31/spotifys-test-of-a-friends-tab-on-mobile-hints-at-expanded-social-ambitions/Instagram’s co-founders introduce a new social app…for news reading (32:05)https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/31/instagrams-co-founders-introduce-a-new-social-app-for-news-reading/Learn more by visiting our website at www.theradcast.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/RadicalHomeofTheRadcastIf you enjoyed this episode of The Radcast, Like, Share, and leave us a review! If you enjoyed this episode and want to learn more, join Ryan’s newsletter https://ryanalford.com/newsletter/ to get Ferrari level advice daily for FREE. Learn how to build a 7 figure business from your personal brand by signing up for a FREE introduction to personal branding https://ryanalford.com/personalbranding. Learn more by visiting our website at www.ryanisright.comSubscribe to our YouTube channel www.youtube.com/@RightAboutNowwithRyanAlford.
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I said hallelujah to the 16th oil fields.
You're getting down on your knees.
Said it's time for you to get down.
Cause I don't care what you need now.
You're listening to The Radcast,
a top 25 worldwide business podcast.
If it's radical, we cover it.
Here's your host, Ryan Alford.
What's up, guys? Welcome to the latest edition of the Radcast. It's Friday, February 3rd,
2023, our weekly entertaining marketing business news of the world.
Jazz hands.
Entertaining, marketing, business, news of the world.
Jazz hands.
Yeah, jazzy jazz.
Joined, as always, by the lovely Christina Yossi.
Back at it again.
On the ones and twos, Nick Weaver.
Hello, hello.
So here we are, February 3rd, two weeks from the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Tom Brady announced his retirement. He did this week.
Yes. We're good. Just in time for 80 his retirement. He did this week. Yes.
We're good.
Just in time for 80 for Brady.
Hey, I know.
And I have something really interesting.
Okay, it's interesting enough.
It's news.
That's world news.
He's the GOAT.
He's the greatest quarterback to ever play football.
Whether you follow football or not, you know who Tom Brady is.
You've heard of Tom Brady, yeah.
Either.
Or at least his wife.
Yeah, exactly.
Both very attractive people.
Even if you don't follow.
Ex-wife.
Yeah. But interestingwife. Yeah.
But interesting fact around that.
So I was looking at the gram and Tom posted how thankful he was.
And it was kind of his retirement post.
He didn't say he was retired.
I think it had already been made official.
Yeah.
He said just super thankful team, family my coaches my trainers and all
this and he had like a multiple photos the old carousel there's the little term i was looking for
uh a lot of pictures of giselle a lot of family photos and recent now i'm thinking they were pre split
but they weren't like 10 years
ago like he was thanking her
like hmm
is this like Tom wanting
to rekindle something
or is it like just being thankful
wouldn't surprise me
I think he's
still wants to be with Gisele
I think he look wants to be with Gisele. I don't think. I think he.
Look, the guy played forever.
Was still healthy.
Was still one of the best players.
Yeah.
Regretted retiring maybe a year early.
Maybe it was selfish.
Yeah.
Gisele's over it.
And hell, I don't know shit about him.
I just thought it was very interesting.
No, I definitely share the same.
Drop my phone.
Same opinion.
Yeah.
I just, you know, same opinion. Yeah, I just
you know, just saying. Makes you think.
Makes you think. I don't know if he did that on purpose.
He could have, look
she was a big part of his life.
She's the mother of his children.
So it may have just been that. Could have just been that.
I just thought it was because of how
there was like, it wasn't one picture.
He's got a lot of photos he could have pulled from.
With just the kids. Right. And he could have done, and if it wasn't one picture. He's got a lot of photos he could have pulled from. With just the kids.
Right.
And he could have done, and if it had been one photo,
but it was like eight photos and at least three of them,
she was in them. Hmm.
Hmm.
Start drumming her on the rack.
We're going to start having a Brady update.
Yeah, exactly.
Every episode.
Little to do with marketing, but lots to do with real life.
Kind of does have to do with marketing.
Yeah. There's some branding going on there.
I think there was some branding, something going on.
He was making a brand play.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, so we'll see.
Speaking of plays.
Brand plays.
Yes.
Jinx.
Hey, this must have been a good one.
I will say this.
So I'm, okay, I'm a ketchup snob for sure.
Who isn't, right?
The ketchup matters, right?
I don't like ketchup.
It's like my one flaw.
Do you like ketchup, Nick? No. Okay, we had this discussion. That isn't, right? The ketchup matters, right? I don't like ketchup. Okay. Do you like ketchup, Nick?
No.
Okay.
We've had this discussion.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
You're the only two people in the world that don't like ketchup.
That's right.
I love some hot sauce, but ketchup, I'm just like.
Let's just say this.
I think.
But I know Heinz is the best.
I think nine out of ten people vote Heinz.
Yeah.
So anyway, Heinz is smart.
Someone on their team's super smart because, you know it's super bowl 57 coming up
and heinz is heinz 57 there you go so they have a campaign uh outdoor campaign there's gonna be a tv
spot that it says they're looking to eliminate the confusion over how games are have roman numerals
and i'll admit i'm one of those that looks at it way longer than I need to going, I know them, and I'm adding them up, and I'm sometimes subtracting and not adding.
You know, like, is that 18 or is that two?
Is it before the V or is it after the V?
Yeah.
I got you.
And so very aptly, they have, you know, the Roman numerals and then Heinz, and they show, you know, Super Bowl 57 with the Heinz 57 bottle.
Very clever.
And I bring this up for two reasons.
One, it's super smart marketing.
But two, if you're listening, this is how you attach yourself to things.
Like, if you're really paying attention, these moments and these opportunities present themselves to you.
Like, when someone on their team goes, okay, it's put together.
Our brand is Heinz 57.
It's Super Bowl 57.
Maybe they've had this in their back pocket for four years.
I don't know.
You know what's coming.
But the ability to tie yourself and to get that borrowed interest, shared interest from the Super Bowl being a moment in time
and having it just happen to be part of your brand name is a super smart way to leverage and create more attention for yourself.
Yep.
brand name is super smart way to leverage and create more attention for yourself yep and i don't care if you sell insurance or you're a lawyer or you are a plumber or you're freaking
verizon wireless like these opportunities present themselves within your own network of reach and
frequency and you need to be on the lookout for them. And so this is super smart marketing
and thought it was worth calling out.
I love it.
And I love me some Heinz.
I'm not a ketchup person, but I do.
Now, would you try the ranch ketchup
or like some of the mixtures?
It's not even that I won't eat it, right?
I don't think I've ever, since I've lived on my own,
I've never bought it.
But if I'm at a baseball game and I get a hot dog,
I'll put ketchup on it.
Okay, there we go.
But I won't ever dip french fries in it.
It doesn't matter.
How about an onion ring?
I love onion rings.
Would you dip it in ketchup?
No.
No, I'll do mustard.
Man.
Or honey mustard.
You guys are missing out on life.
No.
This is like what life's made of here.
Do you like tomato soup?
You know, I can do the beef stew with the tomato flavor,
but anything that's just straight up ketchup flavor.
Or tomatoes.
Do you like a tomato slice?
I love tomatoes.
So you love tomatoes.
And that's why I don't like ketchup.
I know they're different.
I think ketchup, it just tastes too sweet for me.
Yeah, it's a little sweet.
But it's the sweet and the salty.
Totally.
It's a fry.
The onion ring is a super salty thing.
A hot dog is super salty.
I should say, it's not that I dislike ketchup.
I just don't.
It's not my condiment of choice, shall we say.
You and your condiments.
If I had a hot dog, I'd put mustard on it.
See, I'm a mustard person.
I'll relish the moment you do that.
But I get it.
Well, I know you're dying to hear what's going on in the metaverse, because I certainly am.
Yes.
It's been a minute.
We haven't...
Trends!
Fix it in post.
We haven't taken a trek to the metaverse in a while.
Yeah.
There's a reason we spoofed that for quite a while, folks, when no one else did.
Exactly.
This is true.
This is true.
But now,
Martha Stewart
is making her
metaverse debut
with Oreo.
More?
Lots of borrowed interest.
Yes.
Oreo is celebrating
the release of its
limited edition cookie,
The Most Oreo Oreo,
with a metaverse activation
and a tie-up
with celebrity chef
Martha Stewart.
Consumers can watch
the live stream this week,
timed to the day, limited edition cookies
with hit grocery store shelves.
The move follows other marketing plays
by the brand to connect with consumers
using current cultural trends and topics.
Oreo's always just coming out with something new.
Yes, they are.
And I like all the trials.
I will say this.
You know, they had the original Oreo.
Then they had double stuff, which really made the original oreo then they had double stuff
which really made me happy and then they had like the ultra stuff now it's like the ultimate stuff
have you seen those those are my favorite it's like two thin wafers and like uh seven pounds
seven pounds of cream in the middle so the only thing that could make the most oreo oreo would be
a cream patty on top a cream patty in the middle and a cream on the bottom.
Reduce the chocolate patty at all.
That would be the most Oreo Oreo.
I have no idea if that's what it is because Nash,
my youngest son,
who's six,
you know,
we have a fine,
um,
like for just the,
the cream and the,
like Nashville,
it's funny.
They,
they'll get lunchables like to really make
it easy in the morning sometimes to uh for lunch and uh we were having a picnic in the park this
weekend oh and uh nash had already gone through his oreos which means he just ate the cream right
and his other brother grabbed one thinking uh oh wow, you're not eating Oreos. You'd already eaten the best part.
He got the soggy cookie.
Not so good.
That's the most Oreo, Oreo moment right there.
But, you know, this is cool.
I will say this.
I have it on my list for social house.
We have a 200-inch screen out there.
The Xbox is connected now.
I think we've got to get the whole maybe meta.
Metaverse going on.
What's it called?
It has a name.
The goggles and all that shit.
Like Horizon?
What am I missing?
What am I missing, Nick?
VR.
VR, but.
Virtual reality.
Yeah, but what the hell
is the name of it?
It has a name.
No, I know,
but there's a specific one
for the Xbox.
Oculus?
Oculus, there you go.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Oculus, that's what we need.
Is that Xbox?
Yeah, they make it for the Xbox.
They have it for multiple things, and Facebook and others.
Yeah.
And this is actually a Facebook thing, so it's cool.
Look, it's for gaming.
It's for having fun.
It's not for living.
I just love Martha Stewart.
I do want to see Martha Stewart in it.
Yeah, I'm here for this.
Yeah, cooking up something.
Yeah, Martha Stewart's been in the news a lot lately.
Respect the hustle. Yeah. I know. Yeah, how up something. Yeah, Martha Stewart's been in the news a lot lately.
Respect the hustle.
Yeah. I know.
Yeah, how old is Martha?
She's 70s?
No, she's in her 80s.
I just saw this.
She looks fabulous.
She's got a lot of work done.
Which, like, respect, but...
Oh, good, like you're not going to have a lot of work done.
I'm not.
She's 81.
81 years old.
Are you against having work done?
For me, personally, I'm not.
You never... Yeah, because you're 27 and you don't done for me personally I'm not you never
yeah because you're 27
and you don't have
any flaws
I'm all for it
false
I'm all for it
no I just
I
just want to be like
okay with my face
and I don't like the way
yeah
I feel like it always
looks like you get
work done
maybe
and I don't
and that's just not
personally
yeah
my preference
I'll get like facials
and stuff but again like we'll see if you want to do it and my preference. I'll get like facials and stuff.
But again, like if you want to do it and make you happy.
I'll talk to you when you're 55.
Do what makes you happy.
When you're 55 and I'm, I don't know how old, like 70 something, having my.
Have you seen my mother?
My mother has never had any work done.
So I just have solid jeans.
Yeah.
My parents hadn't had any work done either.
Same thing.
So my dad working his ass off in here better.
He works harder than anybody else around here. No, I'm all for it. I just don't have any work done either. Same thing. So my dad working his ass off in here, but he works harder than anybody else around here.
No, I'm all for it.
I just don't have any interest in it at the moment.
Yeah, I know.
We'll see.
But Martha Stewart looks great,
and I want to see her.
I'm going to go check out her in the metaverse with these Oreos.
Staying relevant.
I love it.
Lots of shared interest across the board.
Oreo and Martha Stewart kind of sharing interest with one another, I'd say.
So check that out.
That comes from our friends at marketingdive.com.
Great articles.
If you're into marketing, I would give them a shout out.
We do pull a lot of stuff from there.
And they have a lot of great info.
It's both entertainment, but marketing and advertising.
There's a good mix.
Yeah.
Very easy to follow.
Give them a look.
Speaking of looks,
hope you looked at the episode
that launched this past week,
The Biggest Badasses in Business,
Howie Peace, Bruce Buffer,
Sawyer Hemsley,
founder of Crumble Cookies.
You know what those are.
Don't act like you don't.
And Kyle Creek, who is one of my favorite interviews of all time.
We got his book right there.
Yes.
Speech Therapy and Fucking History.
It was his first book.
I'm sure he had others before that, but that was kind of his first big book.
Yeah.
And he's sitting behind me here, right here on our wall of fame here.
Like your shoulder angel.
Yes, he is.
But look, these guys
into a really great episode.
I actually listened to this
at the gym this morning.
There you go.
On the treadmill.
And this is like
world-class knowledge.
You know, I'm not self-serving here.
Sometimes I am,
but I'm just being real legit.
I was listening to it and kind of taking mental notes because we do these episodes, some of them 18 months ago, two years ago, and then we aggregate some of the content like in this episode.
I'm like, I need to do that more.
Or I'll hit a nugget and I'll be like, I know that because I've heard it, but am I doing it?
And it's just really great business advice.
And we've had so many great entrepreneurs on the show.
These really are some of the biggest badasses in the world in business.
And had them all, we condensed it down into really some of the best highlight clips from that.
So a lot of value.
Check that out on this past Tuesday, just a couple days ago.
You check that out on this past Tuesday, just a couple days ago.
And next week, we have Mike Ciroc, Sirocco, who is this.
We had a condensed episode, and this is episode two of the interview with Mike Ciroc.
Great guy, really good interview.
He's got a killer podcast, too, so he's great on the mic.
And hope you'll check that out next Tuesday.
Yes.
Exciting.
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and while I didn't
I wasn't super motivated to continue doing
my work I got all of my work done
and I definitely
wasn't totally messed up like I was the first time
with a non-vacay Delta 8
I have to point that out.
Yes.
But I'm like, I'm on this train.
I did.
I felt it.
Okay.
I just felt like, yeah, it totally mellowed me out.
I felt kind of like giddy.
And I didn't feel, again, I definitely felt it.
I kind of felt it in my face a little bit.
My face felt a little bit buzzy.
Yeah.
But again, I didn't feel stoned.
I didn't feel like I need didn't feel like it felt like the
right dosage to give you something but i probably won't take it at work again yeah but i didn't
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I did try it again a couple nights ago.
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Valentine's Day coming up, but February 5th, which I believe is Sunday, is National Weather
Person's Day. Yes, it is. Look, I wait all year for this one. All year. Marked on my calendar.
No, I didn't even know that was a day. And then February 7th, we have National Send a Card to a Friend Day.
I will say this.
National weather person, one of my favorite people in the world,
one of my best friends, is Ted Phaeton,
who I was asking on his podcast yesterday.
He is the weather person on Fox in Charlotte, North Carolina,
on one of the big stations.
And a Great guy.
I'd like to send him
a very happy National Weather
Person's Day on the 5th.
Still got a couple days away.
I love you, Ted.
This one's for you, Ted.
You can send him a card on the 7th for
National Weather Person's Day on the 5th.
Send a card to a friend day.
Can it be a digital card?
Can it be like an e-vite?
Like an e-card.
I feel like it.
E-vite or e...
Is that what those things are called?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
I'll see.
When I first got my email address many years ago,
I was obsessed with sending my friends e-cards.
I've got something that will change your life
that I'm looking for a new service
because I used to have it.
It was called Bond Black.
This was the greatest thing ever.
They literally took my handwriting and digitized it.
And I could go into the app and write handwritten notes that got done in cursive.
And literally would get, they would send them a note with my handwriting.
Wow.
I thought it was the greatest thing ever.
That's really cool.
And then I spent a fair amount of money on this because I thought it was really cool.
And then they went out of business.
And I was like, must not have had the greatest business model.
I thought it was great, but I'm looking for a replacement
because I do think those are really nice to do.
Yeah, I agree.
Save some time.
Exactly.
Purple tunnel.
Hey, there's a business idea for you.
Handwritten letters always mean a little more, don't they?
Yep, they do.
I do.
I do love a good card.
February 8th.
Wow, this is a fun one.
Is Safer Internet Day and National Boy Scout Day.
I feel like there's some weird crossover there.
Like that's a strange, that's the same day.
That's what some of the news on Boy Scout leaders, you know, like, not so safe.
Curious.
Yeah, exactly.
But, hey, you need to pay attention.
Pay attention on the national internet, Safer Day.
Maybe don't post about Safer Internet Day on TikTok, question mark?
Yeah, exactly.
That's one of our later articles.
Right, it's coming up.
It's coming up.
It's foreshadowing.
I do think my kids are into a lot of things,
so I don't know if we're going to have time for Boy Scouts,
but I do believe that it's a good thing in general.
Sure.
You know, it teaches them good values
and good, like, leadership things
when there's a good scout leader.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
So, hey, hats off to them.
They've been around for a while.
They have been.
And February 9th, which I will for sure be celebrating,
it's a Thursday, is National Pizza Day.
Yeah.
I mean, other than potato chips and
look i if i was lost on an island i love pizza i pizza or potato chips would probably be like
the one food that like if i i probably eat pizza once a week yeah oh i definitely do because we
like my kids eat it twice a week i'm like okay all right i'm gonna have a piece i love me some
pizza yes we'll be celebrating that yes so pizza hut papa john's all you people better be planning twice a week. I'm like, okay, all right, I'm going to have a piece. I love me some pizza. Yes.
We'll be celebrating that.
Yes.
So Pizza Hut, Papa John's,
all you people better be
planning something really cool.
Send out some coupons.
We'll be talking about that
for next week's news.
Send out some coupons.
Yes.
On to some social media news.
Yes.
I thought this was interesting.
See this one up?
Pulled this one late in the game.
I've been talking about this for a while.
I actually spoke at a FedEx event last year and talked about this.
And it was like there's been this curve of things taking off or whatever.
But live streaming e-commerce drives conversions and builds community.
So live selling, this notion of using social media to go online, is the modern day QVC.
And I've always thought this was fascinating and had a chance to take off.
In Asia, it's been huge.
There's now data out that says that these things drive 30% conversion rates,
10 times higher than any traditional e-commerce marketing or advertising.
And essentially what this is, is if you,
especially if you sell a consumer product, you know, fashion, jewelry, makeup, these things certainly do it.
But I think it could work for just about anything, furniture, whatever.
Having a live planned event, much like QVC, where you have someone come on.
It doesn't have to be overly produced, but you come on and you showcase certain items and you create some entertainment around selling.
and you create some entertainment around selling.
And you do 10 or 15 minutes where, you know, hell, if you're selling shoes,
you're selling, you know, top 10 best shoes.
You're selling furniture, some of your latest pieces or something,
and on your showroom, and you walk around and you plan it,
and you create a structure that doesn't have to be, you know, TV-level quality QVC. So I worked in retail for several years.
I worked at a privately owned small boutique over 2020.
This is literally how we stayed in business.
It was me and the owner.
We had so much shipment.
It was ridiculous.
We did Facebook Lives all the time.
She still does them to this day.
Her business is better than it ever has been because we implemented the
strategy.
Bing,
bing,
bing.
I just think this makes a lot of sense.
It's fun for everybody.
It's fun if you do it.
It's fun if you're watching it.
It doesn't have to be perfect.
Like it's almost funny when it's unperfect.
Like if you're,
you know,
picking up something and I don't know,
something falls and you don't say the right thing.
Like it's like everybody appreciates the organic nature of it.
It's so much more low stakes than something that's highly produced.
Big fan of it.
It makes a lot of sense.
The data's starting to show that it does work really well.
And so I encourage anyone out there that's selling a product or service, you need to at least try this.
And plan it.
Plan a few things.
You don't have to do it every day.
But do two or three a month and see what happens and try to get some traction with it.
Market yourself.
Market around it.
Put some ads around the events.
And so, like this a lot, the data's proving it out.
I think it's going to take off eventually even more here in the States.
It has in certain industries, but I think there's a broader opportunity.
Totally.
Totally, totally.
On to our TikTok article that we already teased.
Yep.
TikTok's shifting U.S. presence and what it means for social media.
31 states have bans barring the use of TikTok on government-issued devices and networks.
A handful of public universities have blocked TikToks on U.S. campuses.
This is a whole thing.
Yeah.
So what do we think is going to happen here?
I've had to cross the ball.
It's such a large industry.
It's like a billion dollars now.
Something tells me it's too big, the taxes,
like what the government gets from the taxes.
Because that billion dollars in sales,
10%, 20%, 30% of whatever tax bracket they're in, does come back to the U.S. government.
So it's getting to the point where they can grandstand politically about it.
I just don't know as long as TikTok continues to meet in the middle with moving the data servers and doing some of the stuff that it'll go away.
I'll stop sort of saying it.
and doing some of the stuff that it'll go away.
I'll stop sort of saying it.
But I just would be cautionary to anyone that's got all their marketing basket there,
having all those eggs there,
because it is being banned by U.S. government officials in 31 states.
I'd be paying attention.
I could see a scenario where it actually went down.
Like they take it down until everything got settled.
And that might be one month, two months, six months.
I don't know.
I could see that scenario.
I don't think it goes away forever.
But that might be the more likely scenario if they can't completely meet in the middle on some of this stuff.
Well, it's so interesting, right?
It's such a two-edged sword.
Because now we have Instagram who's come out and said that they're not going to be focusing on video content as much and they're going to try to level out that algorithm so that you're still getting photos.
So they're not capitalizing on the fact that TikTok could be threatened.
And then part of what we love about TikTok is how great the algorithm is, which we only have because of all of this data sharing. Yeah. What's fascinating to me, and I know the answer to this.
I'm smart enough to know marketing.
I get it.
So I'm going to say this anyway.
When TV was black and white and there was two stations, but then suddenly became cable and color, there was a boon in the volume of hours watched.
Right.
Ads served.
All this stuff happened, and there wasn't this rush to ban it.
Now, it wasn't necessarily based in China, which is probably the fundamental issue, which I know.
Right, right.
Which we need to get right-sized, whatever that looks like.
But all the grandstanding around being worried about watching the content,
it's just another form of television and attention that's there.
Now, data, privacy, and all that stuff has to get worked out.
That, I'm just saying, I'm using an asterisk of my comment being, I don't think the uproar should be about the attention and all that.
There's evolution of things.
There's evolution of content.
And TV did the same thing 30, 40 years ago. there's evolution of things. There's evolution of content. And TV did the same thing 40 years, 30, 40 years ago.
That's a good point.
It's just we didn't have the concern that China was controlling it.
Right.
Or controlling the data or using it against us.
Yeah.
But we need to get that figured out.
But if we can get that figured out, then sort of capitalism.
Also, if you're an app designer, make it better.
You know, come up with your own thing.
Make it better.
Yeah. It is surprising that maybe somebody hasn't.
I'm sure someone's working on it.
It's not easy to create the momentum to take down TikTok.
That's why I'm surprised that, again, I know that YouTube's got YouTube Shorts,
but I'm surprised that there's not more going into making that, like its own app.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Smarter people than me i will say what youtube's figured
out why they potentially have it is why i allow my kids their social media is youtube because they
don't have to have an account tied to their name and all their data and we can set up parental
guidance around what they can so we they can watch shorts all day. Totally. I hear that.
It's not tied to their personal account as much.
By extension, your personal account, right?
Yes.
That's a very good point.
So I think YouTube's been smart in doing that.
And they are the largest TV network in the world.
Like literally, when you use the data.
I mentioned that a couple weeks ago.
Like I think they are.
No, they are.
I looked up the data. I mentioned that a couple weeks ago. Like I think they are. No, they are. I looked up the data.
Between YouTube TV and YouTube itself, they command like 38% of the market.
Wow.
Of like streaming and everything else.
That's insane.
Yeah.
So there's your largest TV network.
There you go.
Second largest search engine, right?
Yes.
That's right.
Yeah.
Third largest is Amazon.
Ah.
Google, YouTube, Amazon.
Interesting.
Amazon now.
And Amazon's number one for product-specific searches.
Oh, I'm sure.
I'm sure.
I found myself on Amazon more recently because of things people recommend on TikTok.
Yeah.
Because I'm easy to sell to.
You got influence.
That's why my credit card balance is so high.
Always.
That's got to be our next video series.
I'm like a tongue scraper.
Absolutely, I'll buy that.
You got influenced.
Truly.
It's me.
Hi, I'm the problem.
Hi, I'm the problem.
It's me.
This next one's fun,
even though I don't think anyone in this room uses Spotify.
Nick, you're an Apple Music guy, right?
No.
I like Spotify.
You're Spotify?
This will be good for you then.
Spotify's test of a Friends tab on mobile
hints at an expanded social ambition.
Spotify has been testing Friends activity
on its mobile app,
which includes a weekly picks section at the top
and feed of Friends listening activity.
As younger generations are shifting away
from traditional social networks
toward entertainment apps like TikTok,
there is potential for building out their own social experiences with Spotify
as Apple has failed repeatedly in this area over the years.
So super smart by Spotify.
And look, there is a trend with younger generations kind of getting jaded on the traditional social network.
So totally there.
And you're also seeing this move towards verticalized social.
So what do I mean by that?
Vertical being music, a vertical.
Oh, yeah.
And being like hyper vertical in your social behaviors and things that you do. So when I'm on Spotify, I don't mind these social activities because it's about music
and what you and I listen to and sharing that specific vertical of thing.
And so super smart for them to kind of lean into that.
I think it would be important for them not to go too far.
Like don't just become another Instagram, Facebook, TikTok.
Right. just become another instagram facebook right talk right find your own nuanced way of of letting this
be different and specific to music and not just another place for kids to talk about everything
else you know like i think they won't right you know i think what i like about it and you go
yeah i think what i like about it is and again i'm an apple music person but i love this idea
because i don't ever think of music
as political
or something that drives...
People love and hate Taylor Swift, that's fine, but I don't think
of that as huge controversy.
And I like the idea of
this platform of social media
actually bringing people together as opposed
to another place where people
can just get upset over
stupid things.
I'll say this, and it sounds self-serving, but there's a million
things that I'm terrible at.
I've always been a music influencer.
What I mean by that, I've always been very music driven, always had a million playlists,
always had the dub tapes, like when there are dub tapes.
I was always kind of the guy that knew the hit song before they were hit songs.
That was just one of my things.
There's a million things that I wasn't that, but music has always been that.
We go to the lake, everybody goes, what's that playlist you listen to?
I've always been that.
And so a way to tap into that and to like, you know, I like to be influenced too.
I'm really good at hearing something going, I can hear it go, I like that, but that won't be popular.
I can also hear things go, I like that, and that will be very popular.
Totally.
Like, I can hear a hit before it's a hit.
Totally.
Not everything.
Right, but you, like, recognize the hook or production.
Or even if it's new and it's not necessarily the modern hook, I can go, that will take off.
It's different.
take off it's different but and and so i think if there's ways to leverage that by spotify or some of these channels so that you create ways for people to discover music in different ways
i think that could be really powerful totally i'd like to have it right also apple get your
shit together yeah this is a fun one i love i love when uh we're moving on to our what am i
saying here?
Yeah, Instagram.
So let's take it with social media.
Instagram's co-founder introduced a new social app that's for news reading.
Always staying relevant, Instagram.
No, that's good.
Yeah.
It's another news platform.
It'll be interesting.
You know, I used to use Flipboard.
They mentioned Flipboard.
And I used it, and then I kind of stopped using using it. I don't really remember why. It just became
another thing.
It'll be interesting.
This is curating
news in a way that's
easily digestible.
I think that we
do have a need in the market for that.
I would love to have that.
The most examples I have now is
I'll go to my Apple. I do have Apple News the most examples I have now is like I'll go to like my Apple.
I do have Apple News.
The Apple News.
It kind of aggregates some stuff.
And sometimes it's like, okay, good.
And sometimes I ignore all of it.
Google has a similar thing.
And I do think if there was an app that does this well in a modern way, maybe leveraging some of the things.
Because Flipboard kind of got a little long in the tooth.
Maybe they've improved.
I haven't gone back to it.
I do think there is a hole there.
It would be interesting if they have a social component to this,
if it's purely just aggregated, curating the news in a modern way.
But being the co-founders of Instagram, it kind of makes you.
And I think it's smart with everything that's happened with Twitter recently, right?
Again, regardless of opinion on that, but Twitter
used to be so
kind of news-focused. It really wasn't
just, like, social media and being
funny. Like, it was kind of a way to spread information.
And so this feels very smart
kind of on the heels of that to just
go in this direction.
As long as they keep the politics out of it.
Because everything,
all this news is so
political now it's right and that's why i've kind of turned off facebook because facebook got it's
like i don't really want to talk about and i don't have to have an we as human beings have
gotten to this place where we think we have to have an opinion on everything and we don't we're
not i'm not smart enough to have an opinion on every single
thing like there's just things that i it's not that i don't care it's not that i don't like have
foundational beliefs but i just don't feel the need to comment or to be judged for either
non-commenting or how like just some things we just don't have to comment on don't have to have
opinion on you know i mean it does kind of water everything down. If you are overly outspoken about everything, like I don't know where your convictions lie.
Like if you're only loud about one thing, that's the only thing I know about you.
And I am like all for stand up for what you believe in, regardless of who it offends.
But like pick and choose those things and stand up for what's really important, not just paper straws.
But sometimes I actually don't know how I feel about something,
and I don't want to invest enough of my energy on it
because we can't do it with everything.
Sure.
And I think that can be okay.
Yeah.
And I think it needs to be okay.
So anyway, I hope this goes and stays out of that realm,
but is useful.
And we'll see.
It's going to be interesting.
Some of these news outlets have become pay for play.
So how they aggregate in that world.
Right.
Subscriptions and all that.
It's like, how many news sites am I going to have to pay for?
Oh, I know.
Wall Street Journal is all I've got.
Yeah.
Drives me nuts.
We'll see.
I think that's all for today.
Yeah.
Cool.
There we go.
Good episode.
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from everyone?
Not today.
Old February 3rd.
Yeah.
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