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Introducing Pixie Geldof On Her “Rainbow Love” Wedding Dress And Why She is Nostalgic For The Indie Sleaze Era from The Closet Digest by Vogue.Follow the show: The Closet Digest by Vogue Model, muse and musician Pixie Geldof joins British Vogue’s Emily Chan to talk about the most cherished pieces in her wardrobe, including her custom Valentino wedding dress. Plus, she reflects on fashion in the late noughties and early 2010s, and reveals the bag that’s making a comeback. DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to [e-mail].

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What makes us fall in love with clothes? How can we be smarter about our shopping habits? What makes the ultimate investment piece? the ultimate investment piece. Today I'm joined by the fabulous model, musician and muse Pixie Geldof. In many ways, Pixie grew up in the fashion industry, beginning her modelling career as a teenager. She starred on her first Vogue cover, aged just 18, before taking to the catwalk for the likes of Vivienne Westwood, Jeremy Scott and House of Holland. She's also a talented musician, releasing her first album as the lead singer of Violet in 2012

and her first solo album in 2016. Pixie's distinctive punk-infused style helped define fashion in the 2010s, an era now known as Indie Sleeves. Those are like these huge formative years and that's when I met some of my like nearest and dearest. I met my husband during that period. I am nostalgic for it. It was beautiful. We had the time of our lives. She's also a long-time vintage lover and is the co-founder of Resell Therapy, hosting a series of second-hand fashion sales including many pieces from her own wardrobe. Pixie, thank you so much for joining me today for the Club at Night, Aja. I liked the introduction. I'm like, oh my God. Thank you.

Well, to begin with, I like to ask our guests a bit about the outfit that they're wearing today. So would you be able to describe it for our listeners? I feel like wearing quite a boring outfit today, but I'm wearing a V-neck cashmere jumper, which I think is from Guest in Residence. Oh, nice. So that GD Hiddink's brand. Yeah. And then I've got some pinstripe trousers from Reformation and some shoes from Reformation. And that's it. And then a gray vest. Quite boring, isn't it, for a Vogue podcast? I probably

should have stepped it up a bit. No, I like it. Well, I was going to ask, is this reflective of your day-to-day style, would you say? Yeah. Well, I think that was the problem. I got dressed being like, well, just get dressed. And then I was like, nope, it's vogue. Whoops. Yeah, but that's good. Okay. And how would you kind of describe your day-to-day style? Because I mentioned in the 2010s,

it definitely kind of like a punk vibe, but I don't know about kind of... I feel like it's like the grown-up version of what I looked like 10 years ago. I think I like love a 90s aesthetic. Generally, like the 80sup version of what I looked like 10 years ago. I think I like love a 90s aesthetic. Generally, like the 80s, 90s are very much like where I like comfortably live and like where I'm always drawn silhouette wise, everything like that. And I think that that translated into like quite a heavy sort of like more grunge look when I was younger. but like naturally I am, I think that way inclined. Like I'm kind of messy and I like dream of being chic. I think this outfit is very chic.

Thank you, thank you. But like, I don't know, I feel like I'm now drawn to like the most simple silhouette of the 90s over the grungier. So maybe like, I don't know how I'd describe it, but like we live in the 90s, somewhere between a Nora Ephron film and Nirvana. I love that description. That's so good. So actually, you know, Pixie, we've asked you to pick some of the most kind of precious and meaningful pieces in your wardrobe. So the first item is your comfort blanket piece. So I think you've picked two pieces for this. And so why did you pick those and what are they?

So I picked my like vintage Levi's 501s. A popular choice. This is the thing. But they're popular because they're perfect. Like that is the truth of that jean. And I have a few pairs because I am very passionate about denim. And I feel like when you find like a perfect gene you like must purchase. So I unfortunately have found multiple pairs. And so I have a few and like they all sort of end up tearing in the same spot, which I then have to repair and repair and repair.

Which spot is that? On the butt for me. Okay. Yeah. I dream of being like, oh, just the knees gave out and now they're just like a casual grungy jean. That's not what happens to me. It's just like my whole ass comes out, which is cool. I find jeans, in particular the 501, but generally jeans, like, it's kind of like my armor. And then alongside my like second choice, which was my biker boots,

which have had multiple different phases over the years. And now I'm like very grown up and they're mew mew. They didn't used to be. But like, I think as soon as I put on a sort of knee high biker boot, I feel very much like in myself. I feel like, oh, that's correct for me. Like, it feels right. And so whenever I'm in those, I'm just like, oh, okay, yeah, no, we're good. Because I find it... Comforting. Yeah. And like, you know, when you wear something and you're like, this represents and looks exactly like how I feel I look in myself. That's what a bike-a-boot does for me, in

the same way the 501 does. I love that. So you grew up in the public eye and I'm wondering, did that have any kind of impact on your style at all? And I guess how important are maybe these like kind of comfort pieces or pieces that act like armor to you in that respect?

Like, I don't think it changed how I dress. I think, unfortunately, I went through, I say unfortunately, it's quite funny now, but like at the time I went through, you know, we're all, everyone has developing style, especially in your teens and early twenties, and you have these moments of not so stunning choices in how you wear your hair or how, you know, like whatever.

And I kind of went through all that on quite a large scale. I suppose it's kind of different now because of social media, more people are in that bracket where we're kind of making our mistakes in public again, which I kind of feel terrible for the youth for that. They don't realize it's there forever. But I'm really pleased actually that I can kind of go back and be like, oh my God, the nonsense of it all. I really like that I kind of looked silly. I

don't know. But I don't think at the time, I don't think I thought about it really. I think I was just, oh, this is how I, if I mean, if I had thought about it, I probably would have changed it because the people weren't pleased. Is there anything that you look back on now in terms of maybe like mistakes that you made in terms of fashion or kind of outfits you kind of wish that you maybe didn't wear? The hair has definitely ruined some looks before. There was a 2009 hair extension incident for sure. Um, that I look back on again, like very fondly.

I'm like thrilled that I can tell you what year it was based on my haircut. And I don't know, I feel very comfortable in my self in terms of like how, how I dress because I kind of have tried so many things. There's always been like the backbone of one kind of idea that's kind of like, I guess it's that sort of 90s-y thing, but then I've kind of experimented on top of that with a lot of different vibes. And again, yeah, publicly, which hasn't always worked out very well for me. But, but I'm, you know, I'm glad now the only thing for me is I think that people, if they ever think for me at all, I mean, but like, I think people have an image of me based on an image of me from half my life ago, sort of when I was 16, 17 years old, and people are like, Oh, yeah, that's what you look like in my mind. I haven't looked like that for nearly 20 years, but so that's quite unusual is to like, you know, if I ever do shoots and things like that, that are more like about me, people

are like show up and there's a lot of little denim hot pants and ripped, you know, it's a lot of ripped things and like big smoky eyes and I'd like don't really wear makeup and all those things. So it's quite funny to have this idea of myself frozen in time. That's quite unusual. I think that's the only thing that probably bothers me, but it doesn't really bother me. It's quite funny, to be honest. But yeah, I guess there's like a frozen identity a little bit. Yeah. And as I mentioned in the intro, I feel like so many people do associate you with that kind of so-called indie sleaze era as it's being branded now. I love that there's a name for it now, I've got to say, and it works perfectly.

Yeah, are there any kind of pieces from that era that kind of resonate with you now? And what do you make of this whole kind of indie sleaze comeback? Because... I love it. Because I truly think it was like, I love the aesthetic of it. And now I look back on the time and I, before indieie Sleeves kind of got coined, being like, am I the only one that noticed it that everyone looked crazy? But in like a really, I really miss everyone looking kind of bad.

Do you know what I mean? Like you look at those photos that are posted on the Indie Sleeves Instagram and it's like really something, but I love it. I love it. And it was a great time. Yeah, it's kind of a nostalgia for that maybe simpler, slightly simpler era. And I am nostalgic for that time. That time was, you know, the sort of last few years of my teens, my early 20s. And those are like these huge formative years. And that's when I met some of my like, nearest and dearest, I met some of my like nearest and dearest.

I met my husband during that period. I am nostalgic for it. It was beautiful. We had the time of our lives. So let's move on to the next item, which is the Renaissance piece, the piece that is having a bit of a comeback. So which item did you pick for this one? I picked my Gucci indie bag. Amazing. Which, I mean, that name feels quite apt now that we've just said that. Yeah, because that is from the 2010s, no?

Yeah, big time, big time. That was like, what year was that? 2006, 2007? Yeah, I think. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, I love that bag. And it's like one of those things where I'm not very good at keeping a lot of stuff, but like handbags I find quite hard to get rid of. And luckily, because now I'm like, I saw that bag because I'm moving and I was like

packing up all my stuff and I was like, so good. So I've just been using that guy again. It's got a heavy handle, I've got to say it's a bit much. Yeah. Can you describe it? It's got like a big like rounded handle and then it's got like a curved bottom with metal plates on the corners. It's white, my one, and then it has tassels hanging off it.

It's like very peak Misha Barton. I think she was probably the host girl for that bag, as she should be. She looked fantastic. But yeah, it's like a big oversized pouch and it kind of flaps over. It sounds like a mess when I'm describing it. She looked fantastic. But yeah, it's like a big oversized pouch. Yeah. And it kind of flaps over. It sounds like a mess when I'm describing it. It's fantastic. Google it. But mine's like now like battered. It's not what lovely handbags should look like. But I actually, of course, love that. And it's lived in. Now, you know, again, it's a nearly 20 year old. I hate to say it because it makes me feel

old, but that is how old it is. And it's, yeah, lived in a random box for a decade and now it's out again, living its life. And do you have quite a lot of pieces that are kind of very worn in and, because you said that's something that you like. I like can't keep things nice. That's the truth. So like it kills my husband because he's like very neat and he has this like beautiful sense of style and very specific to him. And he doesn't buy a lot of things because he's, you know, knows exactly what he likes and it's wonderful. And I, on the other hand, am the king of chaos. And so it's like completely he's always like, just keep your shoes in the box and then put them in there. And I, on the other hand, am the king of chaos. And so it's like, he's always like, just keep your shoes in the box and then put them in there. And I'm like, what are you talking about?

And they just like live on the floor and it's absolutely mad. So no, nothing really stays that nice for long, but I like that. I just kind of, I'm like, this will live how I live. And how I live is just like, you know, again, I'm a bit messy. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm also a bit messy.

Yeah, but I like things to look like they've, you know, had this little, you know, I have things that still have mud from Glastonbury on them. I haven't been to Glastonbury for five years. I don't know where it came from. It's just still on there. Like, and I like that. Well, you want it to show that time that it's had, right? You don't want it necessarily looking pristine. And also, truly, I have a problem where I can't, like, I'll buy jeans and then there's an oil stain on my thigh, with truly within 35 minutes and it's always in the same spot and I don't know how it happens. So it's just, I can't have nice things. You can't help it. And I also wanted to ask, so you're vegan, right?

Sure am. Yeah, so I'm interested, how does that kind of impact your approach to your wardrobe? What do you think about that? Definitely tricky. I do struggle with things like wool and obviously I'm wearing cashmere and I don't know really the answer, if I'm honest. I could make something up, but it's not true. I predominantly only buy secondhand when it comes to jumpers, shoes, bags, it is mostly secondhand. There was a time for quite a significant amount of time where it was exclusively secondhand. I will say I faltered on that. I give myself grace in that. It's not great. But I do struggle

with it. I went vegan because of animals. It wasn't a health thing or an environmental thing specifically. Obviously, those are lovely byproducts of veganism, but it was an animal rights thing. So it does feel hypocritical. And I think about it a lot. And I don't really know. I don't know why the food thing clicked so much easier than the clothes. No, but it is interesting because I do think also, you know, it's a conversation that comes up a lot nowadays in fashion, particularly for environmental reasons as well. And I think also, it doesn't feel like there's an easy solution, right, because a lot of the alternatives to things like wool, leather at the moment are plastic. And I know that that's something that you've kind of spoken out about a lot as well in terms of plastic

pollution, how much of an issue that is, you know, in terms of microplastics as well in harming the ocean and wildlife in the ocean. So I feel like it's quite a difficult balance. When you come at it from an environmental angle, sometimes it feels very damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's a really tricky conversation. And I don't find it for my, like, I am sitting here now and I'm like, I wonder how this will come across, because I do feel really passionate at least specifically about the food thing. And I talk a lot about it and it's a hard question to answer.

But I feel like it's not helpful for me to lie and say like oh no you know yeah I only do this I will say I buy very little that's the sort of thing you know I try to not but that's I mean really it's all excuses I could just not buy any of it and that would be the most useful thing yeah I don't have the answer, except for buying secondhand. That's kind of the only way you can do it. And also, you know, it's become like a trendy thing to say, like shopping in your own wardrobe and all those things that again, I'm trying to be more organized and better at doing. And I will say that's been like the one really good thing about moving has been like really looking at everything I own and seeing what I need.

I did like, you know, they do that 75 hard, that challenge that I've always done at the beginning of the year, but with like that was with their boards. I did it with shopping. Yeah. I, to be honest, the 75 hard I saw people talking about it, didn't really get what it was. Essentially, it seemed really hardcore and it wasn't for me, but some friends of mine did it with clothes and shopping. And so I was like, oh, I'll, I'll do it.

Basically the goal was sort of to not, you couldn't buy anything for the 75 days. And the end goal was to sort of one, realize you don't need to buy anything and to see what you actually might need, what hole is in your wardrobe. And I really was like, okay, here's one, one or two things that like, by the end, I was like, if only I'd had those two things, it would have made getting dressed much easier. And they were in fact, the two items I'm wearing today, which was a pinstripe trouser and a v-neck black jumper. But basically, yes, I would say for environmental reasons, kind of the only thing you can do

is really a lot of it's greenwashing these these things that people are telling you, these companies. So it's just by second hand. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But then that's coming from apparently the biggest hypocrite in the world. I mean, we're all hypocrites. It's very difficult in this world that we live in to live perfectly. And I think actually that probably puts off a lot of people for even trying to do a small thing. I think that's a really big thing with people not wanting to try veganism. Dietary veganism, I should say, is this idea of, well, what if I crave something or what if I slip?

And I personally just think if it's something that you're interested in, try it. If you don't like it, you don't like it, that's totally fine. I just think we do this weird self-judgy thing that I feel like didn't exist before social media in a way where it's like, if I tell people I do something, everyone's going to scream at me, like who cares? You know, we're all allowed these sort of small graces in our development and changing in those directions. But I also think you're right in that we place so much emphasis on like individuals and individual actions where actually this is all about the systems and kind of the global issues and we have so much personal guilt but whereas actually it's better to do something rather than

not do anything. And unfortunately a lot of the time our personal guilt comes out in like I think like when we don't have a place to direct our anger we direct it at each other and it's a lot of the time people saying the same things, fighting with each other, especially when it comes to things like environmental action or animal welfare and things like that. I do think we need to find a place that feels like the right place to direct this stuff. Yeah, rather than having a go at each other. Yeah. Yeah, rather than having a go at each other. So let's move on to the next item, which is your most cherished and best gift. Yes, is my wedding dress.

Amazing. Which was just the best thing ever. I love it so much and I kept it hanging. It's huge. It was a big, I did a roofie moment and I didn't know where to put it afterwards. I just hung it in my sitting room and it was just hung in my sitting room for like a year and a half and then I kind of, and then I panicked that it was going to get like bleached out by daylight or something. So then now

it lives in a box and it's so sad. What can you describe it for the listeners? It was like a tiered, tulle, multi-layered situation with each layer and sort of section of the dress was a different colour of sort of baby colours. So it was like a baby blue, baby green, baby pink, and then multi-coloured little flower beads all over it. I realised describing it that it sounds really nuts. It was very subtly colored. And then I had a very long veil, which I kept on for the entire duration until 3 a.m. Oh my God, I love that.

Yeah, I didn't change. That was the other thing. Cause a lot of people change. Why do you wanna change? You wear that once. I was like, are you joking? I think the only thing I thought of at one point was like, oh, maybe it could have like a detachable skirt thing, which we ended up not doing.

So I was like, I want a full situation. I want a massive train. I went like, I love that whole thing. But no, it was like the most beautiful dress in the world. Amazing. And so it's Valentino. And so was it Pierpaolo? It was Pierpaolo, yeah. And Sabato was with him at the time. So all my wedding dress fitting pictures are them two, which is quite lovely. Yeah, for people who don't know Sabato De Sarno, who's now the creative director at Gucci. Amazing. Yeah, so it was quite amazing. And Pierre Paolo is just, I think, one of the like, most wonderful, beautiful people in the world. He's quite good friends, well, is good friends

with my husband. That's how it happened. And I find him just like such a joy. And that's the other thing, like the actual experience of making it was such a joy. And like, I remember meeting him, he was, they were in London for, they were shooting something for Valentino and he was like, Oh, can you meet me to talk about what you want? And I was like, yeah, of course. And I went and met him at the 10 bells pub in Shoreditch. And we were just sat at counter. And he was like, so what do you want? And we were like discussing it. And then he like, had these like little mock ups of like ideas and stuff like that. And it's just, I have those now framed the little drawings he did. And it just says like, he wrote like, ah, the 10 Bells Shoreditch and then like his name. And it's just like, it's silly what like an experience that is.

I got to go to like Rome into the Valentino building and like, get like fitted for it. And yeah, just like having someone that who I like genuinely love and enjoy be the person behind it is really special. He called it the rainbow love dress. That was its name. So good. Wait, so tell me why did you want it to have the different colors and not just be white? Because I don't know, it felt celebratory.

It feels, you know, I'm not very serious. I don't know if you can tell. And I also just like, I love multicolor. I love rainbows and all of that stuff. Yeah, I wanted there to be like a playfulness to it. And, you know, I was also like relatively young when I got married. And I don't know if like, I would definitely still do it, those hues and all those things, but like as you grow up, obviously

the like silhouettes that suit your body change and all those things change. So it's, it's very of a time and it's very of a specific version of myself. And I think I just, I'd had a, not to go too deep on it, but I think I'd had a hard time and I wanted that day to be the opposite of that. And that felt right to just be like completely wrapped in rainbow love. Yeah, I love that. And you know, and it was great.

Yeah, and so how old were you when you got married? 26. So I suppose I not, you know, not young to get married but like I felt young and I definitely, you know, that's, I, you know, now I wanted to feel young and wanted to feel, I didn't want to be wearing something that I'd look back on and feel sort of stuffy, you know, whatever. And where did you get married? Got married in Mallorca. Oh, beautiful. It was great. I actually got married at a place that then the next year they used as a site for a date on Love Island, which was a shame.

And I was like, and like all my mates were texting me being like, oh, I was like, speak. So you mentioned that it's in a box now. would you ever wear it again? It is quite a big dress. I know, but I think that's the thing. I don't know. There's part of me that wants it to stay this one day. There's something beautiful about the fact that a wedding dress is this like, one day, one thing, moment in time. And then another part of me is completely heartbroken by that idea. And also the part of me that's like,

well, clothes shouldn't be worn once is also like, well, how wasteful. But what do you do with it? I'd be heartbroken. Like people that cut them up and stuff like that, I understand it is such a great way of reusing something, but my heart. It's hard.

So with my wedding dress, I actually dyed it navy. Very nice. It was more of a kind of slip dress type situation. So I feel like it's a bit more easy to wear. Have you remorned it as the... I actually haven't yet. Just waiting. I'm waiting for like it, because I decided to keep it long,

because I did want to, as you say, retain some of that original, yeah, its original shape. That's really beautiful though, that you have this, that's, yeah, and it gets this second life and I'm, oh, I find it so hard. You're obviously very sentimental about your wedding dress. I'm interested, do you have this kind of feeling about other clothes you own as well? Not so much in my adulthood, definitely stuff that I still own from my teens and things like that where I'm like, well, they can't go.

Like I still have the boots I was wearing when I went on my first date with my husband. I haven't worn them in probably the 14 years since our first date. Um, but I won't get rid of them. Yeah. And they were a state when I got them, I bought them, they were like second hand Harley Davidson boots and they were a state then, they're a state now. I probably won't wear them again, but you can't get rid of first-aid clothes. Yeah, I know. They have that important memory. They do. They hold when he made me walk for miles and I pretended I liked walking loads.

I'm also interested because you mentioned you're moving. I also saw that you do kind of clear things out every time you move. So it does sound like you're quite ruthless with some of your clothes. Yeah, I'm quite brutal. Yeah, I tend to hold on to like really good vintage finds I'll hold on to because I'm like aware of that not existing anymore. But I'm pretty good at just like being like, no, I don't want it. I don't wear it. If I haven't worn something within the year is going. Yeah. Unless it holds a sentimental thing or unless I can tie it to a time, you know, like I still have all my like Henry slogan tees, things like that. Yeah, you can't get rid of those.

You're never getting rid of those. So like things like that, that, yeah, remind me of my friends or whatever I'll keep but I'm pretty good at just being like, no. That's great. I try I used to be bad So then I got better recently doing resale and things like that really helped because I was just like it felt so good Yeah Getting getting it gone. Yeah, totally. And should we talk about resale therapy? So how did that kind of idea come about?

that was like really as basic as Fran Burns had her office and she was like I'm gonna sell some stuff and we were like we'll sell some stuff and people came and it was just like really fun. It was like having a little shop which I've always dreamed of like the idea of having a vintage shop. I love watching people find things they love. Yeah. Like the joy of finding beautiful things is brilliant. Yeah. So. Is that a nice part for you as well, that you kind of get to see where your items end up? Totally. I get like really excited. I'm terrible though.

If someone looks really good in it, I'm like 50% off. We're good. Take it. Wear it every day. It's nice. I love that because you know that it's ending up in a good home. Exactly. Which is where it should be. Yeah. It's nice. I love that because you know that it's ending up in a good home. Exactly. Which is where it should be. Yeah, it's a win-win situation. And so the next item is the piece that got away. Mm-hmm. Which piece?

I got burgled and they took a dolce bag and it was a personalized dolce bag. So I don't, there wasn't a name for it, but it was just like they made it for me, which was very nice. And it had my name on it. Sad. Oh God. That's very traumatic. I just moved into my old house. So it was 2012. I mean, I was in the house. Yeah. Luckily, I didn't realize we were all in the house. Me and my housemate, my husband, everyone. That's crazy. Yeah. It was, it was at about 4.35 in the morning.

And my dog woke up, my dog who was only a few months old at the time, shout to Buster, he woke up growling at my bedroom door and I was just like, oh my gosh, this puppy. And I put him back in bed and then the next day went downstairs and the front door was wide open. And because we had just moved in, most of my stuff, like number one, I was very young, I think I was like 21. And because it kind of was a mess anyway, we'd just moved in. And it took me a while to realize what was gone.

And then I realized that a bag that had all my handbags in it was gone. And then I never kind of knew exactly what bags it was. It was like over time, I was like, that's missing. Oh, like it was, it was like over time I was like, that's missing, oh, like it was that. And yeah, unfortunately, one of them was this Dolce bag that was made for me by them, with my name on it. And it was just like a really good bag that now is irreplaceable because there was one of one.

So it's a shame. But I like frequently think about it and will be like, God, this outfit would be much better with a bag with my name on it. And it's unsellable. Yeah, I know. I mean, if there's anyone out there with a bronze bag with my name on it, no questions asked, please return. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, well, maybe, maybe now you've seen it out there. Have you ever lent clothes to people and not I lend them. Yes, my sister. I'll see them them on her friends three years later and I'll be like, oh. I actually borrow quite frequently from friends. That's a lovely sustainable way. I think for a thing like a wedding or a party, borrowing from a mate can be really good because

you feel like you've got something new and you feel like oh This is like a new vibe for me, but it's like yeah No one spent any money Especially if you have some friends that have really funky things. Yeah, so that's really fun Yeah, so good. I should say it's very sustainable way of shopping not only from your own It's this thing we forget when we get older actually like I've now I'm thinking it's like, do you remember you'd go on holiday with your friends or your siblings or whoever and you would go into each other's suitcases, you know, like when you're getting dressed to go out at night, if you're on holiday with your friends, you will just wear each

other's stuff. And it's weird that we don't just like make that a common practice in our everyday weekends. Like, it should just be, I mean, maybe maybe people do and I'm just out of the loop and everyone's sharing without telling me. I think it's become more formalized now with like renting and stuff right? So there's a lot of like peer-to-peer renting going on but sometimes you know, it's not as easy as just calling up a friend and being like can I raid your wardrobe. But it's yeah it's so much fun, that was like one of the most fun things about like being on holiday when you're younger, just being like oh I'm gonna wear this. I loved it. So you need to make that more common.

You need to bring that back. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. I'm agreed. Raid the suitcase. The last item is your museum piece, but I think you picked two for this one. Yeah. I picked my leather jacket, which was my mum's in the 80s, and my New York boots, which were mine very much in the mid-2000s. Can you describe the boots? So the boots, they're like a, just below the knee, they like kind of come up like halfway up the calf.

Quite tight, but chunky leather boot with a skull on the front, metal skull. And then they had these big sort of platform, not hugely torn, not Buffalo boots, like just like a big chunky wedge heel, and then they tied up, laced up at the front. They were perfect. I think I don't know where they are. I know. Like it's like traumatizing. How did I'm thinking about it?

I'm like, where are they? I, there's no way I got rid of them. So they're somewhere Lord knows, but they were fantastic. And then my leather jacket was my mom's in the eighties. And actually, when I found that jacket, I found it with the tickets to see Bross in it. So like from the concert she went to and like, I don't know, the like late eighties, I suppose. Is it like a bomber jacket style? No, it's kind of like a biker jacket. It's big. It's not huge, but it's definitely, you know, it's not a thin jacket.

It's like a heavy biker jacket. And I love it with all my heart. And the jacket, you said it belonged to your mom. Do you remember her wearing it? Do you have pictures of her wearing it? No, because I think, well, I was born in 1990. I don't know if that jacket had been retired by that point or if she wore it until I was, you know, whatever age, but I've been too young for those memories.

So no, I don't remember her wearing it. I have clothes that I do remember her wearing, which is fun, but not that jacket. Just the ticket. Which is so nice. Proof of wear, just the ticket. Which is so nice. Proof of where, which is fun. Yeah, and does that make it extra special that you found this kind of memory of hers and also obviously the fact that it was... Yeah, I mean, even just like the idea of like it being before I existed and like this idea

that your parents had these lives before. I mean, obviously my parents and I have two older siblings, but like, they were there before I was, which is a totally egotistical way to look at things. But I'm like, how weird, you were just like out and about watching a band, not the coolest, but you were just at a gig and like that it was kept there. And I don't know, it makes me want to leave notes in my pocket for my future self, you know, for my child and yeah, I like it. Messages. And you mentioned that you still have a few of her other pieces. What are

some of those pieces? Quite a lot of stuff. I mean, I have a lot of like in like everyday rotation, I have like quite a lot of her sort of 90s. She really liked Ghost in the 90s. So I have quite a lot of those sort of like embellished slip dresses from Ghost and stuff like that, which get big air time on holiday. Um, but like in the more extreme side of things, there's like, I have, is it Emmanuel that was the designer? Yeah. Yeah.

Like quite a lot of, she had like a lot of stuff from Emmanuel. So like these like wild, like neon corsets, like silk corsets and stuff, which like just about fit if I'm never gonna breathe again. And the dress from the cover of rock stars in their underpants, things like that. Yeah, so like some like nice significant things that I have like, again, like images of her wearing

and stuff, which is nice. That must have so much sentimental value as well for you. Like more in the way of just like she was a babe, I love that for her. So it's great. I like that she had such a style, like such a specific you know eccentricity to her. Last question, it's a question that I ask all of our guests. Out of all the pieces that you've picked today, if you had to save one piece from a burning building. Oh my gosh, it's desert island diss. My lord.

Which piece would you save? The dress, my wedding dress. Yeah. It has to be. It's hard to top that. It's hard to top. And it's real silly and I love. I really need to figure out how to have that not be just in a box because that's the saddest thing in the world. You can't have a giant framed thing of your wedding dress though, that's unhinged. You can, I think. Listen, maybe. New house, new rules. But yeah. Because talking of museum pieces, I feel like that dress kind of deserves to be a museum

now. It should be. People should talk about it more. Well, that's the other thing is I never posted any pictures of it. Yeah. And there's something I was thinking about this recently of like, why don't I? Because it's been so long now. I got married seven years ago. It's been a long time. At the time, it felt like too much of like a privacy thing. Now I'm like, oh, why don't I post it now? But there's something about like the flippancy of social media of like, you just put something out there and then it's gone. It's like to me, that was one of the biggest days of my life. And the idea that it just like, flops onto people's screens for people to comment

on. And you're like, I don't want your comments on this. So there's something about it. But then I'm also like, oh my gosh, everyone needs to see this dress it was very good so I really live in a struggle. Catch 22. Deep struggle of whether or not to post. Yeah I'm sure our listeners will want to see this dress. I know I should probably post maybe when this comes out pop it up but uh god it was good. Wow yeah I think that's a good choice. Yeah. It's a very good choice. Well, thank you so much for coming on The Closet Digest, Pixie. It's been so much fun.

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