Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S10 EP13: Drunk on melodies

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

More misadventures in parenting, life, and beyond with Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe... It's been a busy week. Rob becomes a twitcher, nearly gets in a fight, and meets Ed Sheeran. Josh prepares f...or his birthday (which is today!) Please follow and leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show with any correspondence, kids intro audio clips, small business shout outs, and more.... here's how: EMAIL: Hello@lockdownparenting.co.uk INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available free everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com Join the mailing list to be first to hear about live show dates and tickets, Parenting Hell merch and any other exciting news... A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: hello@keepitlightmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with advice and of course tales of parenting woe. Because let's be
Starting point is 00:00:29 honest there are plenty of times where none of us? Rob, my dad. Can you say Josh Widdecombe? Da. Josh Widdecombe? Da. Da. Can you say Josh Widdecombe? Da. Fucking hell Benji, come on mate.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Come on Benji. Widdecombe? Widdecombe. Push it through Benji. Come on Benji. Come on Benji. Benji. Benji!
Starting point is 00:01:04 How's it through Benji. Come on Benji. Come on Benji. Benji. Benji. How's it going Benji? This is my son Benji who's just turned two. Short for Benjamin? Presumably. I am a long time listener listening since the early days of 2020.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I then got my husband into it after we had our son two years ago. I would listen to your podcast during our... Oh sorry. I don't know why I said it like that. I would listen to your podcast during, oh sorry, I don't know why I said it like that. I would listen to your podcast. Your hair is massive. You've given your hair so much. Are you a bit stressed about the hair gets bigger when you're stressed? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Easter holidays, the air's gone up.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I would listen to your podcast during, I can't even read the sentence. I would listen to your podcast during the long newborn nights until I realized it made me laugh so much I couldn't get back to sleep. Wow. Wow. I've never had that situation. So I had to find something more boring to listen to. Shout out to the boys off menu. No, no. Here we go. Here we go. Thanks for the laughs. Keep recovering Laura, Chris and Benji from Surrey. Benji. Benji. Benji is such a posh boy. I know. Do you know what? It's a name I like. Isn't it a dog's name? Well, everything's a dog's name, if you want it to be wrong. Oh, yeah, true. Well, OK.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Didn't know I was going to get so esoteric so early. Benji is one of those names which I quite like, but it's ruined by. The dog, Benji the dog. That's what I thought of Benji. Benji is a famous film about a dog that was made in the 70s and has been that's why I think of posh boys or dogs. Right because obviously I have a chip on my shoulder but that was just a dog outside. No way. Five years.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I've never heard of that. I've heard power saws from that window. Have you ever thought of a power saw circle Benji because I can tell you one's about to start in a minute. So what just a random dog was that? Yeah, I mean, it's difficult. I can't say we never hear a dog from your window. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Did you think I'd got some sound effects like a local radio D chat? Michael's had a red bull. local radio D. Michael's had a red ball. Like he's on talks ball just like we're talking about West Ham that comes on in the background quietly. Oh, there we go. What is this fighting talk? Michael Michael, what are you doing? Was that your dog? Was that a dog? That was no, no, no, that was not my dog. I'm got a dog. That was a dog. Not, not Michael's sound. That wasn't me. Yeah, that was a dog.
Starting point is 00:03:28 What a way for me to announce I've got a dog. But you've got a hamster. Not yet. We're picking it up next week. So what? It's a hamster. It's like, what the fuck is going on? If that was me, you would absolutely haul me over the fucking coals for choosing a hamster and then as if you're fucking adopting a child, then it's paperwork's got to be done. It is basically that really. I'm just a fucking hamster of.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Feel free to drag me across those hot coals, but I'm an ethical hamster guy now. Oh, okay. Basically, my daughter wants a hamster. Yeah, you managed to push it back to December that worked. Yeah, that didn't work. But then I was like, so long for a kid. And then we realized actually December so busy for us. So much going on. It's a great time to get hamster. You'd last thing you need is a week long wait on a hamster.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I'm just gonna go pick it up for the 24th. So we set our daughter challenge to earn money and deadline to get it for Easter. And we got it in Easter because she'd be at home more. Yeah. So she's been doing loads of jobs massively. It's got to the point though, where it's quite expensive life, isn't it really? Yeah. And for her, you know, I can't really get her to do a job that does, you know, I can't say to her, can you build that shed for 250 quid and that'd be because she is a seven year old. Yeah, expensive old hamster. Well, it was like two
Starting point is 00:04:51 or no, you have to get a cage and all that stuff. So the hamster is 38 quid to start off with. Is it? Because and I'll go back to what we said about picking it up. They are hand reared in the back of a pet shop, not just a weird factory and then sold to a mass market shop. If that's what you do, that's what you do. There's no shade here. But when we got recommended though, because she breeds them how they should be bred in a more ethical way, they're much bigger and tamer. And we- They just fuck when they fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:21 We could have taken the hamster home earlier, but we're going away for the girl. I'm not on tour, but the girl, Lou and the girl's going away for the weekend. Yeah. With Lou's family. So we didn't want to get it and leave the hamster on its own. Yeah. So they, we decided to delay it a week. So we're getting it next Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And handling. Handling it that you leave it alone for 24 hours. So it gets used to it. Don't put too much bedding down so it can't panic and hide away too much. Yeah. Because if it does go hide away loads and you can put your hands in it will scare it a bit. We handled in the bath initially Rob. Yeah also we said we're going to handle in the bath and then... Just for listeners no water. No water. No water. No water. Little dinghy for the guy. No water if you're handling in bath, because that's called drowning. Drowning in the bath.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So we are yeah, and also we've got this playpen thing that you could put out so the hamster can't climb over the edge of it. Yeah, nice. We haven't got that. And what's the dynamic going to be? Is it the older daughter? Younger one seven. Younger. She's obsessed with animals. And is the older the older one yeah she's I mean it's three years till she has a horse just to be clear so the older one happens to a hamster
Starting point is 00:06:37 and read Rob didn't know they'd turn into a horse big old boy Big old boy, big old Shetland. Not Shetland, that's a little one. Shire. Shire. Go on. Is the older one interested and is it going to be like both of theirs? No, no, it's absolutely the youngest, but the older one's allowed to sort of hold it and touch it and little miss Muffin. My one tip, well, is, I still don't know if this is true, but it's what I was told
Starting point is 00:07:05 at the pet shop, which was, let's be clear, a cool independent pet shop that hand-reared the hamsters. Was it? Yeah, it's East London Robb. Was it? Don't know. It's called the pet shop. Seemed to be.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Seemed to be family run. Well, they hand-reared them or they order them in. Oh, right. Anyway, I didn't know about this until a week ago. It's quite a niche thing. But luckily, it's 10 minutes from my house. Yeah. Yeah. HQ. Is it called hamster? Pet shop called Scallywags. Oh, big up Scallywags. Everything you need for
Starting point is 00:07:39 hamsters. Yeah. And other dogs. And other dogs. Other dogs. Do you mean dogs? Yeah, dogs. I meant meant dogs. There's a, they've got like all the dog chews and like bones and stuff literally at fucking dog nose levels. You walk in and everyone's like, like grabbing at it. It's so good. The best bit of marketing I've ever seen. You lick it, you bought it. You lick it, you bought it. Benji, stop licking the bone. Um, if you're ill,
Starting point is 00:08:04 don't go near your hamster because they can get human illness. Yes, they said that that was so, um, they stated when they went to pick one, they were like, Oh, you could pick one, but no handling because they're still young. We don't want to give them. Yeah. But I feel ill. I'm ill at the moment. So I'm not gonna go on. Hit me with your illness. I don't know. I just really run down. I've got like a, you haven't got the energy levels of last Monday. I'm relieved to report. I went eight and a half hours. I went to bed early again last night. Eight and a
Starting point is 00:08:27 half hours sleep still feel rough. No energy, tight chest and stomach ache. Oh no, it's weird. Not stomach ache like I'm going to the toilet normally, but just a painful stomach a bit. My daughter had it last week. She was going, feel tired and stoned. I've got a belly ache. I was like, yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah. And then I'm like, fucking hell. I've got exactly what she's. Oh no. So I'm all right.
Starting point is 00:08:48 I'm just not, I'm not a hundred percent. You work in style. Um, only this. And then I'm taking my, oh, so my, my, my daughter, she had a friend that moved schools, but it was quite quick. And like, my daughter has been like getting a bit, um, was like, I really miss her, I really miss her. I was like, okay, but also with a kid who school, you don't want to be like bang on the parents
Starting point is 00:09:06 going, give a play date. Cause obviously that girl needs to make new friends at the new school. And you know, I move on slightly. Um, and then, uh, I messaged said, look, she's really missing her. If you should be up for like a play date or something. And then, oh yeah, she's really missing her as well. So they did a call on what's that. Oh my god it was so emotional. I felt like a black surprise surprise. Oh my god they live like eight minutes from each other. Which was getting me up. But when you're nine it's your whole wedding and stuff. And obviously kids have to move school for a number of reasons and stuff like that. So it's just life. But yeah anyway so this afternoon I'm... What was she expelled for? Just awesome. You've got a young scientist on your hand. So I'm taking them, I'm picking her up. And then what depending
Starting point is 00:09:54 on the weather take a slight little farm or the price and then for a bit of dinner. Nice. That'd be quite sweet. So yeah, yeah, I'm actually not working that much at the moment. But I am. Oh, right. And so I've been doing stuff for the kids. So yeah, yeah, I'm actually not working that much at the moment. But I am oh, mate, and so I've been doing stuff for the kids. So with that garden, a few things going on. I'll tell you what, shall I give you three of some headlines and then you can pick one and then you give me free and then we'll go through it like that's quite good. Secret
Starting point is 00:10:17 gig. Oh, yeah. I've seen Lou's Instagram. Secret. No, no, no, there's no, no, that's a separate. I went to two gigs in two days. Oh, Steve Lamacq. I've not been to a concert in eight years. Here he is. Two in two days. Getting ready for Oasis. How many times are you going to Oasis, Rob?
Starting point is 00:10:36 And I didn't drink at one gig. I felt like bloody Josh Whitcomb there just soaking up the beats. Yeah, just enjoying the music for what it is. Oh, do you know what? I'm drunk on fucking melodies. I'm pissed on good times. I'm just going to have a shot of baseline here. And still enjoy myself.
Starting point is 00:10:52 That sounds like drugs, but yes. So Secret Gig, Nearly Had A Fight and Twitchy. They're my three themes. There's other stuff I've talked to you about. Okay, I want to hear about Twitchy first. Twitchy, I've got a full dad mode, full a bird feeder with a camera. Oh, no, I'd love to do that, but we've got cats.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But you've got a bigger area, so I don't think the cats is as, whereas ours is like a, it's like the fucking Coronation Street set. Do you know what I mean? Right, but you could go up high. Yes, so my daughter, daughter actually we haven't done this but you can get on a window edge. Let me tell you this Rob, not Adrian before you say this was
Starting point is 00:11:30 different builders. I bought my daughter a she make it out of balsa wood she wanted a bird feeder and then you can stick it to the window. Yeah. So she's on the second floor, so she can- Perfect! Yeah, and then we realized they'd managed to paint her windows shut. Oh no. Yeah, but they've come around and released them. So now, you've just reminded me,
Starting point is 00:11:55 we can put up a bird feeder. Yeah, or you can, why don't you get one of the camera on? My one's got, my one's got, do you want to see what my one's got? Yeah, I'm Googling it now. A lifetime AI access. I don't know what that means. Leave a didi until I've got it. It means my camera has AI, my camera's a little robot,
Starting point is 00:12:16 and it tells me what the bird is. Oh, that's good. So what's that? Eurasian blue tit at your feeder. Yes, please. Sounds like a stag do. Oh, this is great. And how does it attach?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Oh, so this is a problem I had. You know, me and you, we are men unlike Adrian. I had to, Josh, get a drill out and drill some screws into some wood. Yeah. And I fucked it right up. Did you? I've got a drill.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So what I did, I should have drilled a little bit in the wood first, but I didn't I just sort of like held the screw Like a nail that you'd hammer Literally just vibrate into school like Nettles Which is of course where you want to drill? Nettles. Which is of course where you want to drill. Absolutely, that's where you want your screw, your tiny little screw.
Starting point is 00:13:06 And then I did that to all of them. So in the end I had to go around the house trying to find loose screws to just, and I've done it wrong. Loose screws. Because it's solar powered. Could I attach it outside a house in zone two? Or is it a garden only situation?
Starting point is 00:13:21 You could attach it anywhere you want, mate. You could put it on your wall or you could there are there's all different ones. So have a look. There's those different attachments you can you can just screw it into the wall. Look at that little guy. Yeah, look, that's a Eurasian blue tip. So anyway, so I'm a Twitcher now. Oh my god, the sound effects. It's great, isn't it? Did you hear that? Yeah, little tweet. It's like Michael's got
Starting point is 00:13:44 back on the sound effects. Yeah, so I've got a great tit, Eurasian blue tit. That's what I'm up to. So that's my twitching. So I'm a bit old. That's like pink dad mode, that, innit? Eh? Rob's been videoing tits.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Am I right? Am I right? Episode title, Michael, come on. Rob's secretly filming tits. Oh yeah, love it. Rob's secretly filming tits. I know I am! And he is. I maybe I should put a little sign. Yeah. Secretly filming. I'm filming. Uh, just saying that.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Do they have to send them to sign a release form? Rob? Sorry. I'm trying to do puns. Um, it's a Tweedley. Um, what's why? No. What are you doing? I started feeling a bit better because you're making me laugh. And then I tried to improvise and my brain went, you're a real dad-mummer. Okay, sorry. Draw a bridge up. Don't say sorry. It's not, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:38 So do you get an alert, you know, like if I get a ring doorbell alert? Basically that, yeah. Do you get an alert if a tit lands on you? Well, if I get a tit on me feeder, I know about it. Come on. They said he couldn't improvise very fucking good. Well, this one had a couple of tits on me feeder. But there's a pair of blue tits and there's one great tit. Yeah, I'm waiting
Starting point is 00:15:00 for new ones. Um, yeah, so just it tells you but also is this motion if someone's walked past it off this but it tells you the exact bird because it's got I've got lifetime AI mate and I lifetime is. So do you think you can attach it to the side of a house? Yeah, you just would, I wouldn't let you do that. No, I struggled on a wooden post. Tell you you'll have to come back. Hadrian. The big man. But yeah, I think you could get one but they do smaller ones if you want it just perched on the edge of the house rather than that one's a bit wider. Oh that's nice. Tell me about you, the other end of the spectrum. Oh yeah, we've got more bird stuff. Yeah, one other bird thing, I got absolutely like two-footed checkmated by my daughter doing the homework. So they're doing
Starting point is 00:15:40 this comprehension English homework and this is about birds, right? It was about the environment of birds. And there was a story about an albatross that gave birth and it asked how old so basically you read the article. albatross gives birth to these eggs, blah, blah, blah. So the questions are, read the basic read it answers questions about it to show you understand it. The question was, how old is the albatross? And I said, just write it down. I went it literally six, albatross, it gives birth to eggs at seven. Yeah. Well, that's not right. The question doesn't even make sense.
Starting point is 00:16:13 How old is the albatross? It's always changing. But even if I write it down, it's changed. I was like, what? And she went, yeah, but just read that. It says seven. Yeah, but the albatross isn't seven. I went, when, yeah, but just read that says seven. Yeah, but the Albatross isn't seven. I went when she was up, when was the article written?
Starting point is 00:16:29 I thought, what? She went, well, he's not seven now if the article was a different point. I went, yeah, but it doesn't say when it was and I turned it over literally since like, April the 12th, 2020. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it was written five years ago. So she was like, well, the Albatross is 12 then isn't it?
Starting point is 00:16:44 I was like, yeah, he's now, or she is now. And she was like, well, what do I put then? And I went, I don't know, okay, just copy what's on that page, write it down there and then life moves on. It's not a trick question. I know, but she was, I was like, I said to her, you are being difficult now and you're intelligent. Sorry, is this you almost getting into a physical fight? No, this is separate.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I went, look, she's seven. difficult now. And you're sorry, is this you almost getting into a physical fight? She's seven. I said, Look, I'm you're right. Okay, the question's not clear enough, because it's open to interpretation. However, I'm assuming that all they want you to do is work out that you understand what's in this.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Literally copy that right to you and I hate homework when you've made it four times longer. If you just read their seven wrote seven, we would have been on to you. If you don't like it, you just shut it four times longer. If you just read there seven, wrote seven, we would have been on two. I went, if you don't like it, just shut up and get on with it
Starting point is 00:17:29 because you're making this go longer. Do what all of us do. If you don't like something, keep your head down and fucking phone it in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Yeah. Yeah. Your teachers don't give a fuck about this either. No one, even the school, no one gives a fuck. Do you know what? You're going to get all your degrees unless you need to do something. But by law, you need it like a doctor or an architect. By law, no one's going to check or fucking care. No, no. I've got a 2-1 from Canterbury Christchurch University College, a Bachelor of Science in Tourism Management.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Have I had Thomas Cook knocking on my door? No one cares. Now, right, the Albatross was seven. So almost got in a fight. So the other two ones are secret gigs fight. Do you want to give me some headlines of yours when you take turns? Yeah, so-
Starting point is 00:18:23 Or should I do mine and you do yours? No, no, let's do that. And we've returned sleep. Sleep disasters, sleep disasters. Birthday tomorrow. Birthday tomorrow, of course. Yeah. He was really excited about it last week. Yeah. And then and then going away. Going away. Yeah. That locked up. Don't tell me that I'm locked up. Yeah, that locked up don't tell me that I can't locked up. No, not like a no just a little holiday. Okay, I'm
Starting point is 00:18:50 going away soon gonna go to Cardiff for three nights and go to Cheltenham to do a couple of shows. Oh, very nice. Yeah, alone. Where are you staying in Cardiff? Do you have much say in the hotels when you stay? No, I choose the hotels. I asked you for advice didn't I for the Cornwall one? Oh, yeah. I said where should I stay and talk to you and go to you stay? Yeah, no, I choose the hotels. I asked you for advice, didn't I, for the Cornwall one? Oh, yeah, yeah. And then I said, where should I stay and talk to you and go to Exeter? Yeah, standby.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Great decision. No offense, talking. But that is just, in January, you want to be in Exeter, not in... It's a summer destination, too. Exactly. It is a summer destination. Well, tell me about your sleep disasters.
Starting point is 00:19:21 We've really boxed ourselves into a corner here, Rob. Right, OK, go on. Is there a storage? We've got a lot of storage now, I tell you. You wouldn't think it to look at my room, which I'm sorting after these records. No, but that's the holding pen for shit in your house. Everyone's got a holding pen for shit. Yeah. We're serving notice on our big yellow storage, by the way.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Are you considered served? Did you go in and send in a lawyer for you with some paperwork? Oh, by the way, no, I didn't, by the way. Oh, I've got so much to say. How much was it by the inch of storage? A hundred quid a week. Fucking hell. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:57 400 pound a month. Yeah, 450 really. Months, four and a half weeks, isn't it? Insane, isn't it? Yeah. That was only like the last month. Yeah, no, of course. I know you needed it for the stock that was only like the last month. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And of course, I know you needed it for the stock and stuff. Well, no, but now it's so expensive. And now that's going down. She's a lot of that stuff's going to a property she's doing. And then a lot is we're going to go to her sister's going to take it. Yeah. And you just go now. It feels like each week you're just like, we just need to get out of the big yellow storage.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Because you're just like, it's just ticking away. What it is, is it that it's a silent cost because you can't see it as well. Yeah, it's not like you're going, Oh, I need to tidy this fucking room. Yeah, it's easy to forget exists until you pay for it. And then it's that thing of like, those storage companies, there's no shame in them. It's just sort of slightly preying on people that haven't got the time or energy to sort shit out. And it's like people hoard, don't they? Yeah, they do, Rob.
Starting point is 00:20:55 They do. Case in point, now. Can we have storage confessions? Have you ever fucked in a storage facility? No, no. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. No. Well, I'll take that story. But do email in if you have.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I'll take that story. We'll take that story, yeah. Like who's got storage? How much, you can be anonymous, how much it's cost you and what's in it? Like that, you know, just feel free to confess. I can kick things off. Oh, here he is. Here he is.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I've got the sound of it. It's like a big shutter going up. Like the start of porridge. Norman Stanley place. Here he is. I've got the sound effect. It's like a big shutter going up. Like the start of porridge. Norman Stanley Fletcher. Michael Stanley Marden. I is currently costing me £680 a month. What are you storing? A fucking gold bullion? 50% of it is now useless, Quickly Kevin, Willie Score, Patreon merchandise, including about
Starting point is 00:21:51 500 Nigel Martin's top five drinks, fridge magnets, if any listeners are interested. Oh my God. That's a podcast cross. That was an in-joke from... Or was it the Acnevilla video? No, Nigel Martin, the lead know, the leads goalkeeper. Yeah, yeah. There was a thing someone sent us in where he'd given his top five drinks to shoot or match magazine. Then it was very funny. But what's it 500 fridge magnets funny? Probably. Well, from the sound of sales. No. But it's surely that summer Josh's cost as well. But surely that's some of Josh's cost as well, that if he's clearly coming. No, no, no, no, no, no, he's just putting it in his storage unit.
Starting point is 00:22:27 You're laughing away here Josh, but it looks like you're paying a third of that, is he? No, I got the storage unit initially when I moved from my previous house, and then like everyone. So your pay is that... how big are these fridge magnets that you need? How big's his storage? There's IKEA furniture, a telly, a mattress. Things that I've paid for 10 times over. I should have just thrown it all away.
Starting point is 00:22:47 It's cheaper just to get rid of it. Yeah. Right. Oh, Mike. Well, that's on your to-do list to get sorted, Michael. But yeah, sending your storage confession, there's no judgment here. We understand it's outside. Mind you, forget it's there and it's costing you money. That is life. That is life. That is your subscription to know, your subscription to the athletic or your subscriptions. Like we've all got these things where it'll come out and you'll go off for fuck's sake. I was paying for contact lenses for two years after stop wearing. Oh yeah. This is good.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Any long-term subscriptions as well that you've been paying storage and subscriptions, confessions. Yes. Now that's the end of that item. Michael, do the shutter sound. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. I like this. But state disasters.
Starting point is 00:23:36 So my son, who's potty trained during the day, doesn't want to wear nappies at night. So you're like, great. We're moving in the right direction here. Respect. So instead, he's going to bed in pants and then he's waking up at between one and five. I'd say 75% of the time saying he needs to go to the toilet, so we have to take him to the toilet. 25% of the time having wet himself, fine. That's the deal.
Starting point is 00:24:08 That's the part and parcel, yeah. Yeah, then he will come into the bed after this has been sorted. How many nights did he do with a dry nappy in the night? No, he just refused. Suddenly he was like, I'm ready for the next stage. So the way we did that with this, we said, you can do it, if you do seven nights in a row,
Starting point is 00:24:25 and then you got right back to zero. Yeah, but the problem is, we've now gone too far. It feels bad to go back. It's like a punishment. And also it doesn't feel like the right thing to do psychologically. You actually failed, so pop you back on, pissy pants. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So now- Let's just all not sleep and be covered in piss instead. Exactly, it, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So now, let's just all not sleep and be covered in piss instead. It's less the piss Rob, than him getting into our bed. Right. Because you've gone away, or sorted his pajamas out, he's in your bed with you. It would be like, yeah, can I, as he says, because Ryo has used
Starting point is 00:25:00 the term and now he thinks it means to come into our bed, he'll trundle into our room at 1 a.m. and get in and then kick me all night. And I was in such a bad, I've been in a really bad mood because it's felt like Well the last week or so you're not getting enough sleep. Yeah, I've been in an absolutely terrible mood. Why don't you just accept over this period you just sleep in his bed? Because well that's what I'm going to do. But the problem is Rob,
Starting point is 00:25:25 me and Rose have got differing approaches. And this is all. Okay. Which is very rare. This is parenting gold. This is what they're all in for. Yeah. Because all people here listening want
Starting point is 00:25:38 is our kids to be worse behaved than theirs, and us to hate our wives more than they hate their partners. And our lives. So I'd say it's rare, but when it happens, it obviously is a very difficult situation, isn't it, Rob? So Rose is very much of the keep your nerve, it'll blow over kind of person. And I'm of the- Hence the storage. Hence the storage. Keep your nerve on it, Josh. I think we should get rid of the stuff. Just keep me nerve on it.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So with the storage, Rose of the It'll Blow Over, he'll learn, he'll get there. I'm of the this is going absolutely nowhere. All we've got ourselves into here is a position where the first time he wakes up in the night, he decides that he has to come in. Yeah, you've got yourself into like a rhythm of like, that's what his expectation is, not, oh, I need a wee, back to sleep. It's like, oh, now I get up and I go a wee, and then get in bed and run my dad.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yeah, and I'm like, so there's a slight debate on that, Rob. I'd describe that as. Right, you're like, well, what are we gonna do about this? And she's like, nothing, it'll be fine. Yeah. And is she getting sleep? She's dealing with lack of sleep better than I am. And I make the mistake of bringing it up
Starting point is 00:26:53 when I'm tired and angry, which doesn't help my cause. No, but also you are gigging a lot in the evening at the moment, which is stretching you more. You're working more than roses at the moment, aren't you? No, well, she's probably working, well I'm working always Rob, life is work for me. Life is, well life's a work in bloody progress. But at those late nights, she's not working evenings,
Starting point is 00:27:13 is she? No, she's not working evenings, of course. She does relax in the evenings slightly where you are out and about. Well, bedtime. Anyway, the whole- Yeah, Joe, now I'd say getting the kids to bed is easier than trying to warm up a cold crowd on a Tuesday night.
Starting point is 00:27:28 You haven't got our kids to bed, Rob. Wow. My son is absolutely, he's just testing boundaries. My daughter, very easy to get to bed now. My son is like kicking back on it. Three. Yeah, I actually, people say terrible twos. I think three is harder than two. Do you know what I've got a problem with Rob?
Starting point is 00:27:52 Whatever you tell someone that your child is being difficult, cause that will come and go throughout. There's always a fucking rhyme for their age or there's terrible trues. There's three in ag three-nager, there's more that I can't, they'll always say oh yeah well you know, four fuckers or whatever it is. I don't think there is. There is. There's definitely three-nager and terrible twos. Yeah and then there's um And terrible twos. Terrible twos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And then there's 666. That's one. I've never heard of that. Is that one? No, I've just made that one up. I generally think two and three are the hardest ages. There's the one for four that I can't remember. Yeah, but halfway through four they're in fucking school.
Starting point is 00:28:39 They're a problem. Anyway, it's fine. He actually slept till seven last night, which doesn't help me because that doesn't support my cause Rob. In your bed? No, he didn't come in till seven last night. Right, okay. So he is doing some night. Yeah. So Rose is right?
Starting point is 00:28:54 No, but I can't live like this. It's too difficult. It's too many unknowns. So what we need to do now is clamp down on him. We've just got to go through a couple of nights where we go, no, you don't get into our bed. We've got a grow clock arriving today. Oh yes, we used to have the grow clock. And I'll let you know how that goes. Yeah, because I would suggest,
Starting point is 00:29:24 if Rose wants it to blow over and you're not happy with it. No, she's not that... I've missed... She's not fighting for it to blow over. She's more like, I'm sure it's fine it'll blow. She's not like, we have to let him do this. No, no, no, no. But what I'm saying is if you're more keen to get it resolved, then maybe you just take the lead and go, well, I'll do it then. And then when he comes at one I'll go right come you've been sort of bad daddy I'll sit with you. Yeah, and sit on the edge of his bed. Yeah. With him till he goes back to
Starting point is 00:29:52 sleep. I'm happy with that. Yeah, so maybe do that. I'm happy to get in his bed and go back to sleep with him and then just once he's asleep, come back through. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. I'll keep you updated. Yeah, okay. That seems like a good plan if you're more keen to get in. We were on our way to Hamleys yesterday. Yeah, I saw a photo of you in an egg. Yeah, I was in an egg. I was in an egg giving a thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I saw an egg in Hamleys. I'm gonna give a thumbs up Rob. Anyway, and I just in the cab needlessly said tonight, just to him, I said tonight you are not allowed to sleep in our bed. Oh, when did you say that to him? On the way to Hamleys because I was so tired. Right okay that seems a bad time to say it. Yeah it was I've gone insane because I've gone insane with tiredness Rob. I had a two-hour nap yesterday because he was kicking me from 1 a.m. till 7 a 7am. It's not his fault. I'm a terrible decision maker in the middle of the night though. I can't think straight.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I'll lay there getting stressed, rather than going, well, how am I not just in the other bed? Yeah, so I could go into his bed. Yeah, so that's what I'll do tonight. But then on my fucking birthday, I'm going to wake up in my son's bed with him in my bed that's life. You just have to accept that life is worse now in certain ways yeah but better in others. Immeasurably better in so many others. What are you doing for your birthday?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Very little going for lunch with Rose. With the kids or are they at Easter school? They're at Eastery stuff yeah so yeah we're just gonna have a chilled day. Is that pathetic? I don't really want the attention. He says on his podcast he records twice a week. Oh, here we go. Here we go. How is the national tour in between live TV on Fridays? Look, if my birthday was paying the same amount
Starting point is 00:31:42 as the national tour... There's black people in here. I'd have... I'd have to, I'd have a birthday party. If people were paying £30 to come to it. It's my birthday again. Here we go. Come and celebrate. I'm drinking. My birthday's at the Lowry. There's 107,700 seats there. Come along.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Okay, Martin, let's try one. Remember, big. You got it. The Ford It's a Big Deal event is on. How's that? A little bigger. The Ford It's a Big Deal event. Nice.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Now the offer? Lease a 2025 Escape Active all-wheel drive from 198 bi-weekly at 1.99% APR for 36 months with 27.55 down. Wow, that's like $99 a week. Yeah, it's a big deal. The Ford It's a Big Deal event. Visit your Toronto area Ford store or Ford.ca today. Yeah, so that's nice. So just a bit of low key, a bit of lunch. Have you asked for any presents? Do you reckon Rose is going to get your present?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah, she says she's got got me stuff. Oh, that's exciting. I haven't asked her anything. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, Rob. I'm just I'm not. I think you're the same. I'm not really a birthday guy. No, not really. I always like to do something though. But I don't like doing a big thing with loads of people. So like, I like doing something with the kids. I think Rose has got me a surprise something. Normally we are on holiday anyway, and I don't really do presents. I'd say my present would be the money. Holiday.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Yeah, yeah. I'll put that towards it. So my present would be the money you're paying to attend my birthday. Your new birthday setup. I like it. But you should do that. John Frodo comes big birthday party. And just you do it just do a gig with some mates. Oh, my god, that's a good idea. Really sad. Imagine that I was probably a bus driver, my big birthday
Starting point is 00:33:31 bus journey, just gonna drive the bus like normal and all my mates are gonna come on the roof. Did I tell you about agent Charles 50th birthday? I think I remember. No, no, no, no, no, no. He told me what he did for his 50th birthday. You've got painted nails by the way. Yeah, yeah. He went to Hamley's and got this nails painted thing my daughter got as her toy, which does like symbols stamped on your fingers. Oh, yes. It's quite a sticker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, it's actually a Hindu symbol of peace. Yes, absolutely. We explain quite a lot of the school. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. But you know, it's actually a Hindu symbol of peace. Yes, absolutely. We have to explain quite a lot of the school. Why don't you look back a bit further? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And you'll realize that Adolf took it from Hinduism. Exactly. Um, so what was I saying? Oh, yeah. Agent Charles 50th birthday. Yeah. He wrote to Virgin Trains or whichever train company would be. Yeah. And asked if he could ride with the driver from London to Manchester. And then he did it. Fuck it. I'm sorry, I'm just processing it. Wow. Does he like trains? He must do. He just told me this once, really off the cuff. Do you know what I mean? Not like that was something that was going to stick with me. Well, because I suppose if I'm up at holiday, I'll go to a football stadium and look at it, even if he's not a game on from the outside.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah, exactly. I remember going, I'll do that on tour. I remember walking around Ipswich's Portnum Road, taking photos on my own before an Ipswich gig and I was thinking, this is fucking great. If you'd done that tomorrow as your main birthday adventure. What would you have said to me? What are you doing for your birthday tomorrow? I'm driving to Ipswich alone to do a lap of Portnum Road and take photos of driving back.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I'd say, I'm about, if you'd rather not do that. Maybe we could go for a walk at the park, get lunch, maybe get back on the drink. Because I want to come to Ipswich. I'm actually going to Ipswich. Tell me about your tell me about your fight. Right. So I'll update I'll keep the updates coming by the way on
Starting point is 00:35:42 this sleep situation guys, because I know it's so we went to me and Lou went to see Louie Dunford right it's really good yeah he does that it's weird he's got a really weird audience though because he does that you know the North London Forever Arsenal football song that they started singing before going yeah does he do that that's his song right probably very unlike all the other ones he does he writes a lot of sort of like quiet like he's a singer songwriter and they're quite deep, stuff about mental health, or about friends of his dying, but they're quite sad songs.
Starting point is 00:36:09 And does that hang over him a bit, like Three Lions must hang over Ian Brodie? I'd say there's a real mixture, because I think you get a lot of like laddie football guys there that want to be there for that, a lot of Stone Island for that football song, but then also a lot of like geezers with emotions there that are really enjoying it. So I'd say yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:29 me. So I'd say it's probably a 80 20% split in the the proper oil is that one the football song. And then 80% of people just absolutely love Louie Dunham all of his stuff. But it isn't really dynamic though. When it's when it's there and it's quite geezery. Anyway, so we're there and it's fine. It's good. A lot of people come up to me wanting pictures and stuff. Whatever. It's fine. You know, I've watched it's there and it's quite geysery. Anyway, so we're there and it's fine. It was good. There's a lot of people come up to you want to pictures and stuff, whatever, it's fine. You know, and I've watched it at the back, watch it. It's at Chalk in Brighton, which isn't the best venue because you can't, that's a gig goer, you know me. Anyway, it's
Starting point is 00:36:56 more of a nightclub than it is a proper music venue. I was looking at Lou's angle. Yeah, it's a terrible angle. And I thought, Blimey, that's a weird angle. Yeah, so it's not, I wouldn't go and watch another, Louis Dunford was great, but I wouldn't go to that venue again. I'd see him somewhere else. It's not a great venue at all for music.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Clubbing it would probably be all right, but I'm done with that. Go on, Rik. I went to the Guilford G Live to watch a show. Oh! Yeah, do you know the famous G Live that I'm sure we've both played many times? What did you see there? I went to see Karen and Gorka from Strictly. I took my daughter to see Karen and Gorka.
Starting point is 00:37:30 We had a lovely time. But it's quite surreal going to like a venue outside of London that you do a tour at. I love it though, because it reminds me because sometimes when you are on tour and you're the act, you get so used to like back to the stage or dressing room on the stage off and it becomes quite like, I love the actual gigs, but it just becomes your job that week. Yes. But actually, when you sit in the crowd, you go, oh my god, everyone here is so excited. I know it's such a good reminder. It makes you feel more confident about your show. Oh my god, there's so much a positive excitement for the show when you're sat waiting for a gig.
Starting point is 00:38:07 So it's a good thing to do, actually, I think. Yeah, no, it is good because you kind of go, oh, this is such a big event in, like, we're excited. You've been waiting all week with it. Yeah, and then it's like- See Louis Dunford. Yeah, it's really great. Live entertainment's great, Rob.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Keep supporting live comedy, guys. Keep supporting live comedy.. Keeps for life comedy That was like a keep showing live dance dances for I've never been to a dance show before it flies by because Because it's always impressive. Do you know what I mean? There's none of the they don't know tall They didn't really they had a band who would know they didn't talk. No fair enough Just dance and go as body man. Fuckin out that guy's bod Really, they had a band who would... No, they didn't talk. No. Fair enough, just danced. And Gorka's body, man. Fucking hell, that guy's bod.
Starting point is 00:38:49 It takes his top off and people go mental. Really? Yeah. It's something else. I think if Karen took the top off, there'd be an awkward silence. That's unfair. Not that she's not attractive. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Hold on, my word, that is a brutal slap. Not because she's not a beautiful and attractive woman, but more like, oh God, but it's weird if a boat does it. It'd be much more of a statement. Imagine if she did it, you'd just sort of go, wha! Whaa! Whereas like, when a boat takes stuff off, all the women are like, ahhh! He threw his t-shirt into the crowd.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Because I'm obviously, you know, one of those people that because I taught, I think about things like overheads. And I was thinking, is that costing him a t shirt every night? Or is he asking for that back? And does that come out of his fee? Or does Karen have to pay half? Karen losing half the t shirt. Imagine if I threw my Stone Island jacket in the crowd at every Pound in Hell gig. Josh, that's another like 200 pounds each for that. Every night. Oh, yeah. So yeah, that's another like 200 pounds each for that. Every night. Oh yeah, so yeah, that gig, he was amazing. Venues crap for a live gig.
Starting point is 00:39:50 No offence, Chalk, but it's more of a nightclub than it is a. Yeah. Because you couldn't, well, it was a great venue if you want to be stood right at the front, but absolutely not. If you like- That's not for you. Not for you, you're 38. I wanted a seat so bad, but we stood on a ledge at an angle. Anyway, so I went to go to the toilet and there's a lot of people wanting pictures and stuff like that. And it was...
Starting point is 00:40:11 Have you dick? No. Well, so I went in the toilet, there's geezer, drunk geezer, probably about, probably 45, 50, quite a bit, a bit bigger than me, but it looked a bit, bit muscly, but not massively muscly, right? But probably a couple of inches taller than me, but my brother's size, not Joe, the other one, Dan, about six foot, comes up to me and he comes in with a big finger point. Are you stood at the urinal at this point? No, I'm walking to the front door of the toilet and it felt like a year nine interaction with a school bully or the year and a half, right?
Starting point is 00:40:42 I walked to the toilet, he does his finger point and he's about to poke it in my belly, almost like a teenage boy poking the little belly. Anyway, so as he does it, I sort of like, I thought he's going to try poking the belly, so I tense my stomach. And as he does it, he points quite hard because I'm not trying to shaft up really much, it's a bit harder than it used to be. And I think he's trying to, he's recognized me. And this is what happens with basic men from working class backgrounds that are used to school alpha male situations. And they may be still be in a workplace. It's very alpha male, with a slight tint of toxic masculinity. They still try and bully you like you're at school. And I've got a
Starting point is 00:41:19 bit of bullying like that school. So I'm immediately aware of what's going on here. So he tries to do that. So I tend to my stomach. And then when he does it, his finger crumples in a bit. And if you know you twang your finger. Yeah. So he's trying to do that to basically out from me and be like above. So I do that and his finger goes a bit like that. And you see his face is a bit annoyed. It's like, I know you. But I quite aggressive face. You owe me a fiver. I was like, he's got he
Starting point is 00:41:43 obviously recognized me with the telly but he's trying what they try and do is they don't want to show they're recognizing the telly because then it puts you above them a fiver. I was like, he's got, he obviously recognized me off the telly, but he's trying, what they try and do is they don't want to show they're recognizing me with telly because then it puts you above them in their pathetic. And I went, I went, all right, yeah, good one, mate, like that. And I walked past him. But no, I was like, all right, mate, yeah, like quite friendly trying to diffuse it. But I'm aware of what he's trying to, and he was in the toilet in front of a bloke, so he's trying to like,
Starting point is 00:42:00 mug me off. But I'm like, all right, so I walk through and I go to the toilet, here, can I have a photo? And I'm walking to the toilet go. Yeah one minute mate. I'm just gonna toilet I'll do it for your second doing a second, right which I think is a fair co-exide desperately. Yeah I don't think you want to be wetting yourself. He's heard me say that in front of other men He feels threatened by it. No, no, we'll do one now. I went no man. I'm going to the toilet So I walked to the cubicle. I got my dicks out now. Yeah. Travelling away in the cubicle. Yeah, I'm picturing it. And he goes, um, come on, mate, why are you being a prick? I'm like, mate. And I'm trying
Starting point is 00:42:31 to piss away. I'm trying to, mate, I'm trying to go to the toilet. Give me a second and I will. Yeah. Anyway, you ain't going to get anything out of that. And I was like, what are you talking about? So I ignored him. I'm stood there. And at this point, he's filming me now. What? Like from behind, he's not like, he can't, he's not filming my penis, but he's filming the back of me having a piss.
Starting point is 00:42:51 That's his mental. And I'm stood there, right, and I'm really angry. Also, I thought of you weirdly. You know when you say like, you struggle to go to the toilet at that point? Yeah. I'm stood there going, I can't piss now. No, of course not. Like, I've been filmed.
Starting point is 00:43:03 You've got a fucking chance. I've been filmed. I'm also trapped in a corner of like a venue. Did you have a door you could close? Oh yeah. He's in that ajar. He's holding that open. What? Yeah. Right. So I'm sitting there and I feel very, like cornered like a dog corner. Yeah. So it's a nightclub toilet and I'm right in the corner and I'm getting like this. I'm getting, I'm so, I'm so angry. He's been so rude. And he's so angry. And is anyone else doing anything?
Starting point is 00:43:29 Now they're all just having a piss and try in and out quickly getting back to the gigs. So I'm he's filming me and then he's saying loads of shit like fuck it now. I don't even know who use it on all this stuff. Yeah, I love to have a pee when I'm just so I know. So eventually, I just shut my eyes in like Britain. I'm like, just be calm because I want to have a, I just want to have a fight now. But I know this is terrible decisions. Yeah, I'm just like, breathe or just breathe and eventually have a piss like that. They come out
Starting point is 00:43:54 and they go to it. And I'm just like, right, me having a fight with him will be because he's triggered my ego, even though he's been totally out in the wrong. I also I don't, I don't, I don't really ever fight. I don't really want to have a fight. But I'm at my wit's end here. Anyway, so I finished going to toilet. I come out. And then he like goes, why are you being a prick and pushes me? And then he goes back to get a grab his arms go, get off me, and calm down. He's like, Oh, no money. So he sat alone. At this point, there's no one else in the toilet apart from me and him. And then he goes, and, and then he got, I went, mate, can I just say,
Starting point is 00:44:26 I said, look, calm down. I kind of say what you're doing is totally unacceptable. You're grabbing at me. You're following me in a toilet. You're filming me. It's not fucking you can't put a physical assault. Someone chase him in the toilet and film him having a pit. But it's better. You know what I mean? I went, it's totally mental.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Calm down. We'll have a picture. He went, I don't even want to fucking picture with you now anyway. I went, well, let's not have one then. When, when? And then I walked, I turned away and then as I turned away, he pulled my shoulder back. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:44:57 So then I just pushed him, like not really aggressive, but he was really drunk. So I just get, I went fuck off, I'm going to push. And then basically I went out the toilet and then I could feel him like follow me. Oh my God. So I shut the door and then ran through the gig. Because he was like, he wanted a fight then.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And then I ran through the room and I went around the corner and hid. And then like we were just at the top there. And then we went out just before the last song so I didn't bump into him again. Oh my god. You must have been so shaken. I was really and it put a bit of a dab there on that because I'm like it's totally unfair and I did so well to calm down.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Yeah you did amazing. I really wanted to hit him. Yeah I kind of wish you had. Well you know what genuinely I was thinking if I was like in the hallway, or in and there was a lot of other people around me, and he hit me, I would have it in back and then you hope everyone just broke it up. Yeah, but I was in the toilet alone with him. And I was looking at him and I was like, he's quite drunk. I'm sober. I'm no fighter. But I think I'll
Starting point is 00:46:00 give myself a slight 60, 40 chance of winning. And that's, I'm not gambling, man. That's not big enough odds. No. If I'm going to start a fight, they need to be tiny. We all know that you got beaten up by Devon, Rob. Oh, Devon, I needed Devon to back me up. But it was horrible, so I was like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:46:19 It's been a long journey from the hamster and the bird table. That's a bit of everything for everyone in this episode. Tell you what, I couldn't sprinkle a bit of stardust for a positive end. Tell me about your secret gig. Went to the pub with my mates on Friday after some filming. A friend of mine's pub was in the pub. They've got a little back room. Southeast London.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Central London. They've got a little back room of the pub and he just sort of lets his friends go in there and say you can sit in and have a drink and be left alone. Anyway, we're in there and they went, oh, do you mind moving to that table over there? Because we were on a big table. There's only four of us. We're moving to that table. We've got a band playing.
Starting point is 00:46:56 And you didn't know this? No, I was like, all right. The band, they've got some instruments and one's set up there. That's where the band sets up. Yeah, not a problem. We still come in there. For fuck's sake, we were just having a nice chat, now we've got to listen to a fucking band. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:09 But they had solo guitarists on all evening, they were brilliant doing covers, they always have music on in there. And then I went, yeah, I sat in the corner, and then out of nowhere, about 20 people turn up, it starts getting really busy, but we're in a room, probably about, there's probably about 50 to 80 people in there.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Ed Sheeran pops in. What? He's been doing his single all like launch all day in London. Yeah, pops in just does an hour of covers. What? And I was like, what the fuck? And it was a bait. And it was unbelievable. But basically, I think you didn't know this was gonna happen. And why was he doing it? Was he doing it for promo? What? No, I was he being filmed. So he was I don't know know really, but I think he'd been doing a day of promo and him and all his team were like-
Starting point is 00:47:49 I saw him on the bus with the Capitol people. So I think they'd finished at like nine o'clock and went, oh, let's all go for a drink with everyone to celebrate the single launch. And they know they'd be left alone in there. And there was, he did have one of his team film in the gig and he was saying that he does do like gigs for his friends over the summer and so he wanted to run through his covers all the covers that he does but in a live gig. What covers did he do? He started with Chapel Rowan then he was doing like Wheatice and Busted but all like stuff that he obviously loved growing up that kind of era of guitar music.
Starting point is 00:48:23 That is mental. And then Country Road and all that. And was he surprised that you were there? It was a little bit because I saw him in our room and went, hello mate, hello mate, and then we looked at each other and I was like, comic relief. He was like, yeah, but when we spent a lot of time together in comic relief, we were not a lot of time together. But when we were filming it, we, he was on comic relief of the live show, the live show a few years ago where he was singing.
Starting point is 00:48:50 But also at the beginning I was chatting to him. I was like, welcome to the show, comic relief and then she, and I was like, and then she runs on the show and I checked insurance while I was waiting to start with weighting for like 20 minutes. So we chatted there and then later on he was singing and then Miranda came out and Miranda said, I think she's on comment release. Yeah, Miranda come out and the bit was, I'll just say no, that whenever we have a singer on, they have to kiss the tallest member of the presenting team. And
Starting point is 00:49:13 then I think then I think Greg Davis came out. Yeah, like, it was a bit of fun. Anyway, so we were just chatting about that. And he was just honestly, such, such a nice, yeah, I did. I did. I did. And he was so normal. Yeah. And when he sings, it's just quite He was just honestly such a nice, totally unaffected. I did Graham Norton with him and he was so normal. Yeah, and when he sings, he's quite wanky. He hasn't got a mobile phone. Maybe that's why he's so happy. But he was playing and honestly, he was playing with this other band.
Starting point is 00:49:36 But he is like, you know, some people have an aura. And how many of you are there in this room? 50 to 70 people. That is fucking mental. When he plays stadiums. And he has like, even in that little room though, you know, like, it's one of the ones when Harry Styles walked into a room, the whole energy of the room changed.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Some people have that energy and he was there and he was singing. And when he was in the room, he was like buzzy and like nice. And he seemed like a nice guy. But when he sat down and plays guitar, it's like, you know, like a ray of light comes through the window on a sunny day. It was like that in human form. And you can see how someone like that can go beyond and connect with that many people around the world. He was such a, and he was so normal.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And then what happened at the end? Well, at the end, um, I mean, just left. No, he stayed. I left before he left. He finished and then when he finished I had to go because I had a cab waiting for the... I was filming that day and I said, Oh, I'm going for drinks. So the production sort of got me a car and then I went... Oh, he'll pick you up. You were filming afterwards?
Starting point is 00:50:35 No, I was filming before the gig. Oh, I see. And then in the morning in London, so they got me a car into London and they were getting me a car home from London. That's how they do it. And I said, Oh, can I make my own way to this pub and meet my friends can they pick me up at 10pm? Anyway, I get in our car at 1230am. I've got a message or I'm a bit drunk and I messaged the cab driver. Are you coming out? I went, I'm really sorry. I'm going to be in it for at least two more hours. Actually, Ed Sheeran just turned up. He's playing songs. I cannot leave. He just gave a thumbs up the cab driver. Felt bad,
Starting point is 00:51:09 shouldn't have invited him in. Yeah. Yeah. What a, that is mental. I know. I was so lucky really. It was about mad. I was just like, what the hell's going on here? Yeah. Yeah, so it's funny. But yeah, so yeah, so nice positive end.. So nice positive and nice positive and done that on Saturday night and the fire in the toilet was Friday night. But that's life. I you know, that's life. That's life. That's why Rob should do small business shout outs. Yeah, I've got one here. Oh, yeah, I've been given some on
Starting point is 00:51:37 tour. So I'm working. Oh, yeah, that's nice. Hello, you sexy and relatable slags with any luck. Robert has received this in person at the show. They're excited for the show got tickets blah, blah. Sorry, there's a lot of stuff here. Basically, I'm a caricature artist. I draw live at weddings and events. I also do studio work, drawing from photos in full color to celebrate their special occasions. I love drawing family caricatures, whether it be wedding, anniversary,
Starting point is 00:52:00 birthday. Most people I draw never had a caricature before. So it's a unique addition to a celebration or a corporate do but they're, they're quite nice ones because this one here, me and Lou, she said, can you see that? Oh, yeah, that is nice. So they she's quite a nice caricaturist that focuses on nice features. You can search my lengthy Instagram handle of at Riley creative caricatures, which is a fucking nightmare for any other dyslexics out there. But it's at Riley's R E I L L Y, then creative, and then
Starting point is 00:52:38 caricatures, which is C A R I C A T U R E S Riley creative C-A-R-I-C-A-T-U-R-E-S. Riley Creative Caricatures on Instagram. There you go. And this is from Kieran, who's a father of a 10 month old. I can relate to your podcast more than ever. So that's Riley Creative Caricatures. Hello, fellas. I have a shop on Etsy that sells custom vouchers. So many things are purchased online
Starting point is 00:53:03 and you only get an email with a voucher code or the tickets don't arrive until the week before the event. Gifting your child a printed email confirmation isn't ideal and doesn't fit the magic of Christmas, etc. Great phrase, the magic of Christmas, etc. I have designed a few printable vouchers that you can gift your child as a physical representation instead of Disney, Legoland, Robox, etc. That's a good idea. That is a good idea. There was also a listing where I make the voucher for any trip or gift you want. The Etsy shop is called Evilabs or evil abs. It can't be evil abs, can it? Evilabs. The
Starting point is 00:53:40 link is evil labs. Imagine Evil. Abs. ABS. It's Evil Abs. .exe.com. Doesn't matter. It's a great idea. Doesn't matter how you pronounce it. Terrible name. Good luck to you.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah. Terrible name. Good luck to you. See you on Friday. Bye. .

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