Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S10 EP14: Stacey Solomon & Joe Swash (The Return)

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) are the brilliant presenter, singer, and author - Stacey Solomon. And her husband - the actor and presenter Joe Swash. The duo can be seen together on BBC and iPlayer on their heart-warming and funny new reality show 'Stacey & Joe' which shares their family and work life and at their beautiful home - Pickle Cottage. Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please subscribe and leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show with any correspondence, kids intro audio clips, small business shout outs, and more.... here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] Follow us on instagram: @parentinghell  Join the mailing list to be first to hear about live show dates and tickets, Parenting Hell merch and any other exciting news... MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because

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Hello, you're listening to parents in hell with guys, can you say Rob Beckett and Josh Whiddicombe? Rob Beckett and Josh Whiddicombe. Thank you. Wow. Do you know? Do you know what that reminded me of? Children of the corn. No offense. No offense. No, it'd be like, and you kind of often see it crop up in the documentaries now where they'll have the clip. It would be like, they'd get a boy band to go, Hi, we'll take that. Yeah. And this

is MTV Europe. Should we do it on quickly? Hi, this is take that. Yeah. And this is MTV Europe. Should we do it on quickly? Hi, this is Rob Beckett and Josh Whitacombe from Parent in Hell. Okay, ready? Three, two, one. Hang on, we said hi guys. Hi guys is quite like. Hi guys. Yeah. Three, two, one. Hi guys, it's Rob Beckett and Josh Whitacombe from Parent in Hell. That was bad, wasn't it? Yeah, it's tough.

Do you know what? People say those boy bands weren't talented, but fuck it now. If they could do that. You were trying to speed up, and then when you tried to speed up, I tried to slow down and we got caught right in the gooch of that. That's the problem. And you wouldn't have guessed. If we weren't Dick Obama, weren't we in the gooch?

You would not have guessed that you would be the one going slow and I'd be the one going fast. I know. Did they used to do it on Zoom though? No, they didn't. They would probably be together, wouldn't they, on camera? Yeah, they'd have been together. Maybe it's an in together thing. Next time we're together, we'll do it.

I started watching that boy band Forever Doc last night. Have you watched it? I've seen the Boyzone one. Oh, and that was the other ones, the BBC iPlayer one. Yeah. Yeah, and I've seen both. They're great. I fucking love Robbie Williams. Oh! he's such a great guy. He's amazing. He's brilliant. Considering how much when I was like 11 I was like, Oh, take that shit. About four years older than you when it was going on. I know it's mental. Have I

told you this? That I've got splinters in my hand. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. See that? No. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's bad. How'd you get splinter out? Time. Like that genuinely it will just work. The skin will work it out. I thought I've just told my nan I've got a hangover. Time. Time. Yeah. So the skin works out bad things. It will just push it out of me. Just push it out of you. Like poo and burps.

Josh, we didn't get to one of your things of going away. You're drinking out of a Boston mug and has it got information about the Boston Tea Party? Correct, yes. Wow. Do you want to know? Do you want to have a guess what year the Boston Tea Party was? The Boston Tea Party? No, it's just Boston General. It's just generally about Boston? It does mention the Boston Tea Party, but it's just

generally about Boston. What was that? Was that like a union that riled against the government? They threw the tea in the sea or the ocean or the river or whatever it is. I don't really know where Boston is. Is it on the coast? Is it on the coast? Yeah, in the sea then. And it was about the British, wasn't it? Wasn't it a dislike of the British? Oh, it's always us. Wasn't it a dislike of the bloody Brits? I don't know. I love the Irish in Boston. Very Irish.

They do. They love Boston Celtics, aren't they? Are they teams? Josh, you were going away, you said. Where are you going? Oh no, we went away for a night. Oh, you were going away, you said. Where are you going? Are you excited? Oh no, we went away for a night. Oh, you and Rose? Yeah, we had a break. We went to a nice hotel in the countryside. Oh.

Had an argument. Thought you hated it there. What, the countryside? Yeah, you love doing it, no? No, you can enjoy going somewhere without wanting to live there. Okay. Yeah?

Yeah. I like the sounds of the birds. Me too. I like watching them as well. Yeah, of course you do. Blue tip keeps going off. Blue tip. Do you know my favorite bird sound? I'm getting a bit annoyed of bird blue tits now. It's all I'm getting. Do you know, bird feeder. Do you like the wood pigeon? That's my favorite bird sound.

I don't like pigeons. No, it's not a pigeon, but the call is do do do do do. That's my favorite one. That's your favorite bird call. That's my favorite bird call. Well, now I've got blue tits and great tits and desperate for a parakeet to jump on board. Oh, I love the parakeet. I love the invasive species actually. Yeah, when they released this is a Michael will know this again. Have we covered this? Maybe I'll know this actually. Okay, I think parakeets were brought across here to film a movie and then they were released and they escaped and that's why we've got them on this planet.

There's a few stories about this. There was also a big storm and then someone kept a load in an aviary and they all escaped. So they're all over Surrey and South London. The legend is it was the African Queen, the Humphrey Bogart, Katherine Hepburn movie. They brought a load over and they escaped and then I think they just populated the area. Or maybe there was a big storm, Michael, actually. We've all got our own little theories. Yeah. Or maybe God put them here.

Paraquete. Is that anything to do with disability? No, it's not. What is para? Because Paralympics, Paraclegic, paralegal, paraquete. All four of those things feel like they're going in separate directions. Well, Paraplegic and Paralympics are probably the same. But what does para mean?

It must be Latin. I think para means alongside, doesn't it? Like parallel. Okay. So I took para. Paratrooper, paragraph. Oh, here we go. Fuck it now. What does para mean? So I think it means alongside, hence the Paralympics is on at the same time as a kind of side

by side. Right. I don't know if that's true. The term. So that's alongside the body. Yes, it is a kind of side by side. I don't know if that's true. The term alongside. Yes, yes, it is alongside. So Paralympics derived from para meaning beside or alongside. They're parallel with the Olympics. Right now. Okay. Paragraph. I don't know why paragraph. Paragraph is a bit of text alongside a graph to explain it. Paratrooper. Why is it a paratrooper? Because they're part of the whole army, but they're not the main bit of the army. They're kind of you sending the

paratroopers alongside the ground troops. Right, it's alongside the troops. Yeah. Yeah. Got you. There we go. Don't we learn? Don't we learn? No.

And do you know what the best thing about this, Rob, is? Yeah. I think our guests, the new listeners that we've got have come for Joe Swash and Stacey Solomon. Yeah. Are going to love our Where Does the Word Para Stuff Come From? I think I'm Parakeet. Why Why is it parakeet? Who knows? You went to the countryside. I haven't got much on it to be honest Rob. Let's get back to parakeet.

Why is it? When we got on to parakeet I was thinking I can fill in it and we can get why is it called Para Kate it's a general term for any CD in parrots there we go I'm Keith's mean then it's para yeah we had an argument then what you'd argue about my son sleeping and you weren't even there with me about point now I was just very tired because when you're really tired, and it's, of course, you can't check into your room till three, it's tantalizing in a hotel. That you're so desperate to go to sleep. So what time did you go to sleep? Well, we went on a thermal journey. Pardon. What got hot where? You do a sauna, they got this thing where you've got a like a pool, then a sauna, then the ice cold Wim Hof bucket.

It's gonna go to thermal journey mate, try owning a bloody Victorian house in London with the new energy prices going up. Oh, that's good. That's not the weak thing. Yeah. So you go sauna, Wim Hof ice. The first one was called the tepidarium.

The nickname for your cock in it. So you did the tepidarium sauna, the Wim Hof three degrees thing. Yep. And then the steam room and then back round again. And it was done a thermal journey without realising at the gym. Have you? Yeah, I bet you have done a thermal journey. I've done a couple of, yeah, I've done a couple of ad hoc solo thermal journeys. Exactly Rob. So we did thermal journey and then I went to sleep because I was so tired. What time? Five PM. For the night? No, no, no. Then I woke up and then we went for

dinner and then I couldn't really sleep because I'd had a two hour nap in the day. And is this the two hour nap you're talking about before? No, I've had two of them in the last three days. You're basically surviving the morning then collapsing mid afternoon. Yeah. Planning it again today. So tired.

Oh dear. And then how much are the kids off? Because my kids are off a whole of Eastern. They're doing, sometimes in the summer we send them summer camps and stuff. Are they doing Easter camps? Well, my son's at nursery still, so obviously that's not- Oh, that's a treat for everyone involved. It's closed for one week that is.

Right, okay. Cause it's part of the school. So he's in nursery this week and my daughter's in Monday, tomorrow's my birthday, she's having the day off yeah and then on Wednesday, Thursday and then is she off the week your son's off just to be hanging just to hang out and stuff just to hang out oh that's nice to chill out just because they need something like after one they get set my entire daughter just goes I'm so bored to scream in the face I'm bored also you can't send one in and not the other. It's just, it's unplayable.

It's unplayable on the one that's going in. Why does she get to stay? Yeah, exactly. Fair enough. Oh, that's nice though. I'm already slightly thinking summer's coming here, Rob. Well, yeah, we're thinking about, we are going away in the summer and also we're going to put the kids into like a week long summer camp thing nearby, which they love. So that's good. And then the rest of the time we're going to do

day trips and I try and take the summer off. So that appeases my guilt. This year I'm in 16 countries, 112 nights away from home. Jesus. What is that? Romesh and tour. But you're only doing tour in one country on you. No, Australia, New Zealand. And then other and then yeah, and then we've done India. I'm drifting towards Australia. It's great. You love it. At least the kids are coming some of Australia. So anyway, let's get Stacy Solomon, Joe Swash on. Yeah, we didn't need to overshoot this. We've shot hard. Here's Joe and Stacey. Welcome to the show.

We've got, this is double trouble. This is huge. Joe Swash on his own, or Stacey Solomon on her own is big, but together, it's like getting a unicorn on the show. We keep saying this. We always do so much separately. We're worried, like, what's gonna happen to the universe. Who's got the kids?

Dave, Dad. All of them? Granddad Dave. Bloody hell. I'll have that play. Dave, I went on a one and Joe Stag did with Dave. What a man. I forgot you met Dave, didn't ya?

I know Dave. Oh my God. Dave tried to get me to go on a Virgin Cruisy, haven't we? Oh my God. Do you know why you're doing that Rob, Brian? Go on. Because we went on holiday and I've got a travel agent and she's a really good friend of mine.

And I just had Belle, our youngest, and she said, let me come with you on this one because I don't know the hotel. I'm just going to speak to them out there and make sure everything's set up because she was only a few weeks old. So she comes with, Dave comes, because we love Dad coming on holiday with us, and all of a sudden, I've lost my travel agent, lost my dad, they're off on nights out together. Together? Together, over the time of their lives, and now every cruise that she books for our company,

Dave's on it. And he's off, and he's inviting you on. No, I'm joking. So you've got a DM from Dave. Yes, I do. Saying, do you want to come on a cruise with me? I've got, no, I get DMs from Dave. Now I love Dave, but sometimes I feel like these cruises.

No, I do, but these cruises he goes on, sometimes he needs someone that posts on social media for the opportunity of the cruise to come. So occasionally go to your Fancy and cruise, you've only got to do a couple of go to your fancy and crew. You've only got to do a couple of posts there and everywhere. And I go, Dave, I cannot get away from my wife and children to go on a cruise with Stacey Solomon's dad. Just as an experiment for next week's episode, Rob, could you just quite seriously tell Lou

that you're going to go away for a week with Stacey Solomon's down on a three-year-old? Please. It would take about a week to explain how and why. I love Dave, but I'd say mine and Dave's relationship involves you or Jo being there, normally. It's not strong enough as a breakaway. The good thing about Dave and Olliday is if he does annoy you at any point, he's always off on his own somewhere, isn't he? He's a marauder.

Oh my God. He's always out and about making friends. He gives me anxiety. I love him. He's the best thing that ever happened to me in my life because he is so helpful and he's the best granddad. But oh my God, he gives us anxiety, doesn't he? He's great though.

He just loves life and he's expressing himself. So for those that don't know, how many kids have you got Strokies Dave looking after at this moment? Five. Five. Five. Yeah. And is he looking after all five at this moment?

Yeah, and doing all the school runs. And we've got four school runs. So we've got a nursery school run, a primary, a secondary and a college. Yeah. Right. Okay. So because you've got your oldest son, Joe, he's not living at the pickle cottage at the moment, is he? No, he's at Mum's. He's nearly 18 now, so he's a big, big boy. He's a man. So he's out of equation, then there's the other five, and what ages are they at the moment? 17, 13, 6, 3 and 2.

Oh wow. How old are they? That's 17. Is there any chance that 17's gonna learn to drive? Yeah, he's just, he's doing his theory on Friday. Your eyes lit up then. I can't wait. I'm gonna have someone to help with the food shops.

He's gonna be able to do his own school run. Life's about to get really easy, class. I can't wait, yeah. It's not about to get really easy. You've got four others, surely. I'm hoping that with his newfound responsibility of driving, he'll pull a bit more weight. Because also when you pass your test,

you're desperate to drive anywhere. Oh, yeah, exactly. I'll do the school run. Run out of milk, grab your food. It's a long way. It's a year of novelty, isn't it, bringing you past your test? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That makes it for women a lot quicker than men. I'd say it's about a week of novelty. But when did you pass yours? Wasn't you fairly recent, Joe? Oh, yeah, I was about 35 when I passed one. And I'd like to find the man who passed it. I'll give it a go. To be fair, she has got a point because I've done this thing, right, where you go in on a Monday, and you do like loads of tests. And on a Friday you get your license. Costs three grand cash in hand. But you know what?

I remember the first time I got on the motorway thinking I don't know if I'm ready for this. That's quick, because did you have any other lessons before then, Joe? No, no. And it's yours. It was a five day course. So you just did a five day course.

And how do they know what if you'd failed then you have to do another five days? No, what they do to do another five days? No, what they do is you have five days of training and then on the fifth day they book you a test. Certainly I wouldn't book it. I pass my test. You pass, that's amazing.

Oh my God. Because it does massively help. Because Stacey, imagine if Joe couldn't drive, your school run, because you're having this a bit, Josh, but you haven't got such a big family. But because Rose doesn't drive, a lot of the driving falls on you. So if Joe couldn't drive, you'd be all over the place, wouldn't you? I feel like we would, but I mean, you know what?

Joey's a liability on the road, so I do like to take over the school runs, to be quite honest with you. Take a notice of her. My driving's fine. Are you splitting the four school runs, or is it like a big loop? Depends if we're working. If whoever's at work, the other one does all the school runs. And then if we, if they're on the rare occasion, we're both at home together,

then one of us will do the morning, one of us do the afternoon. Because they go to different schools and they're all at different times. It's easier just to bung them all in the car and go bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, rather than split them up. Yeah, yeah. Quite, so what time you getting up with it? Can you talk us through the morning routine? Is that possible? Oh my god. If you're not working, say you're not, oh, it's on the show.

Is it, so you've got this new show, you've got cameras into your home to film what is the sort of... It's got to be the reality show everyone is most desperate to see. I don't know. People keep saying that, but I'm like, we're boringly normal. Can you? You're not. You're not. You're not. Well, we are. I mean, how many times? You're not. You're not. I don't know. But you're not. I don't know. I keep thinking, I wonder what people are expecting to see. Just so you know, Stacey, you're on PR for the show.

So if you do want to say it's good and not boring. No, I think it's going to be really good. If you like watching school runs and changing nappies, this is the show for you guys. Well, no, but I've known Joe years and I've known you a little while, Stacey. It's like, what I'd say is that you've got a big family and there's lots going on at different ages. So what you're doing is normal, but the capacity you're doing it is massive because you've got from like adult men, children, age all the way down to like babies. And then you're in this big house together and then you're all off everywhere doing mad jobs all the time. It's normal to you, but it is operating at quite a chaotic level

of stuff where you're being put... There's a lot of love there, and everyone's happy, but there's a lot going on. It's not nine to five, is it? Yeah, but you know what, Rob, it's one of those things that creeps up on you. So, like, first of all, you have two kids and you manage it, then you have the third, and you sort of manage that one, and. Then you have the third and you sort of manage that one.

And each time you have another kid, you sort of adapt slightly. But before you know it, you know, we're juggling. Your knees deep. Yeah. And you're just on. Listen, some days we get it wrong. Some days I send Rex in the wrong uniform.

Do you know the last two weeks has been actual hell because there's been Red Nose Day, World Book Day, and I've been on the edge of my life being like, Joe, don't forget the red noses. Joe, don't forget the girls have to wear something pink. Don't forget the sponsor for money. Oh, they've got the Easter bounce. Oh my God. It's as hell.

Being on the school, the different WhatsApp groups for each child is harder than raising a child, let me tell you. I will raise a hundred children over the school group WhatsApp. I'm about to sign Joe up to it because I'm like, you need to realise that. I don't even text back me mum, so no chance. So take us through your morning then, this morning. So this morning, Stacey got up, you started the day first, didn't you? I got up at five and went to Barry's boot camp and Joe stayed in bed. Do you know who Barry is, Rock? No, he's Barry's bootcamp. It was a kind of Hollywood PT who opened a kind of string of like extreme classes.

It's like a high intensity class. High intensity class and he shouts at you. But that's not a actual man called Barry that comes through. No, my sister's actually a Barry's bootcamp instructor. So if I'm working in London, because I knew we was working today, I thought I'll run into one of her classes first, then go to work. Joe stayed in bed. Well, yeah, I had the option.

It's obviously Euston Station, Rob. Is it? Right. You could not run out. Rose used to go to it. And so you'd hit Barry's Bootcamp at what, 6am? Yeah. And then I got ready in the changing rooms and went to

radio. Yeah, Joe met me there. I was meant to go to Barry's. You know, it's amazing. I go to bed with the most amazing intentions. Like, yeah, I'll come back with you. I'll be up at five in the morning and I wake up a completely different person. And I'm like, what was I thinking? So no, I didn't go. And Dave took over today, didn't he? Yeah, Dave took over.

So Dave's done the shift. Dave's done putting in the shift, yeah. I come down, met Stacey in London, we've done some radio. So today is quite a good day, isn't it? It's quite an easy day. It's an easy day, because we've got no kids. So if you weren't doing this, what would be a normal day? Say tomorrow you're both at home, no one's working, you're both in the house together. Okay, so we get up, the kids get up.

I do the morning school run, Joe does the afternoon, so we split up, don't we? Because when you say we get up, I've seen Joe in the morning. Joe don't get up. I imagine you're leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning.

I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading the kids in the morning. I'm leading we get up the kids. I do the morning school run Joe does the afternoon. Yeah, we get up I've seen Joe in the morning. I imagine you're leading the charge. Listen, I get up and Joe proceeds to open his eyes and say I'm so tired even though he's just been sleeping. What time are you guys going to bed?

I go to bed at like half eight, right? Don't judge me. I'm so awake and active from like 5 a.m. to 8 p.m. I need to go straight to bed. Joe, on the other hand, likes to, did you do this in the jungle, by the way, Rob? He likes to micro sleep through the day. Yeah, little gnats.

Yeah, yes. All the time. Oh my god, it's historic. Yeah, obviously I'd come back in and like, in between like, he'd just find a little corner and curl up like a dog. Yes. So he spends his days sort of like doing something and then napping and then doing that and then napping. So he stays up till like stupid o'clock in the morning and I can't do it. It always goes, let's watch a series. I say, all right, then he puts it on. I couldn't even

tell you what happens after that. I'm like, Is that correct? Is that correct so far Joe? Yes. Yes. Stacey said it. So it was correct. Yes. He's a Rob nose. You do like a little kid.

Yes Rob. We had a night out with Lucy the other day. I think it was because we weren't nights, but he does have a little curl up. He loves it. I was like, baby, you nap a lot. He was like, I probably nap. He went to me, I, you nap a lot. He was like, I probably nap. He went to me,

I nap like once a month. I was like, I don't think that's quite true. Could you do two in a day, Jo? Could you do more than one in a day? No, I don't know what she's talking about. She talks like, she talks, honestly, she invents his character for me. Like, there's no way. Back in the art. I do remember you having a little nap. Because I used to wind you up. In Australia we were getting up at a stupid o'clock in the daytime.

And then the other side of the world. I'm on Joe's side here. I just thought it was because of that. But with this further evidence from Stacey, it seems like that was a lucky convenience. There's no real foundation to it. Have you stayed on Australia time in England? Is that the problem?

He's still on Australia time. He's happy, you know. He might be really jet lagged. You never know. Although she is. At least there's a reason for it, eh? So you're a bit at half age, Joe's a bit later,

then you're up at five every day, Stacey, or is it a bit later some days? Five or six. Like just with this, the kids will dictate it, wouldn't they? They get up at five, you're up, even if you don't want to be. But if they're up a bit later... And are they all in the beds or are they in their own rooms now? Or are they all over the place? They go to sleep in their own rooms, but they all end up just all over the house. Sometimes we're like,

has anyone got eyes on Belle? She wakes up somewhere different. Yeah, I mean, sometimes I think the kids work, they do shift work sometimes, night work. So like one will get up at three in the morning and get in, then the other one might come in and sometimes someone will open the utility and you get two dogs in there with you as well. So like, this is lovely. There's so much heat coming off of people right now. It's been. One, two, three, four. Yeah! Riding a bike in the ride to conquer cancer is like being part of humanity's greatest.

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No, breakfast is just wherever there's a seat. Yeah. Like everyone, pick your breakfast, get a seat. We're in such a hurry at this point, because I'm over like moaning into the boys, the teenagers bedrooms, because they're still not awake. So you've got like two ends of the spectrum,

the kids that will wake you up like a cockerel as soon as the sun rises, and the kids who are just not willing to get up before 12. Most of the time you're just running around chucking toast at people. Like you're a ninja star. And so how much are you actually showing in the documentary of your lives? Is there anything that's off limits or is it pretty waltz and all? The only thing that was ever off limits is if anyone in the family didn't want to film.

That's the only thing. The kid says go away, it's gone. Exactly. As soon as someone says no, then it's no. But everything else. Yeah. It's mostly like me and Joe bickering to be quite honest. When we watched this back, we found out that we bicker a lot. Really? We were like, oh wow. What's the main bickers? When we watched his back, we found out that we bicker a lot. Really?

We were like, oh wow. What's the main bickers? The kids. We bicker over the kids a lot of times. It's like, who did more? That's a big one. I'm more tired than you. And what's the answer?

I mean, that question never gets answered. Because obviously, you're very active on Instagram, Stacey. You're not as much, Joe. Like, you're in Stacey's doing all these amazing things and setting up rooms and stuff like that. Would you say it's a fair representation of what's happening in the house? Or is that more of the Instagram version, Joe, as you're there for both? You know what our house is?

It's like a massive crafting box. Like, whenever I look around, the kids are crafting because they see Stacey always doing something, making something. So the kids have got their pens out, they're trying to craft and then you find one of them with the scissors, you're like, oh, please. And you're like, no, mummy's told me how to cut properly. You're like, oh, OK. So, yeah, it's like there's someone making something at any one time in our house, which is lovely. It's very creative house. I try and rope Joe into the crafts. He's not so up to crafts. I'm not as good at the crafting Rob, you know.

I've got the attention span for about half an hour and then I'm done with it. See ya. And so what was it like when the cameras were in there? Like that must be quite a weird kind of, what was like the first things you did? Did it feel strange or did it just feel like they weren't there? I think for the first two days, weren't it? Yeah, weird. And then you we just there's so many of us in the house anyway, we kept forgetting they was there. Yeah. I mean, it's only when we'd have like a little like disagreement that we'd be like, oh, shit. Yeah, I mean, yeah, like sometimes you can walk into a house and start having a full blown conversation with someone and not know who they are. There's always someone.

There's always someone in our house. So like I remember once last summer, Stacey was doing something with the kids and I was like, oh, that's amazing. You know what it's like sometimes, the stars align and you get the house to yourself. And I was like, this is, this is going to be amazing. And I drove back and there were like 30 mums and kids running around the garden. Stacey invited them over. No, he's giving you no context. Right? I was working and it was, do you remember it was

like we had this massive heatwave and it was so hot they shut the schools. So like all these parents who were working had kids who had nowhere to go because their parents were still at work. So I said on the group WhatsApp, that's why you should be on the group WhatsApp. I said, listen, if you want my husband's at home, if they're all hot, just tell them all to get dropped. So you weren't even there? No. So you were at work with the kids?

No, I was at work. She was at work with the kids? I was at work. Yeah. No, I was at work. She was at work with the kids, so I come home to a house full of women. I wasn't at work with the kids. The kids came home. The kids come home. Basically, and also she put me up for lifeguard duty as well.

So you're at work and Joe's basically looking after the kids and he thinks, lovely, it's just me and the kids, no one else about, and then you've invited the school round. That's right. But only because they had no childcare and it was the hottest day of the year and we're so lucky. Do you know, don't you ever think this world right? We've got a swimming pool. Like when in our lives did we think we'd ever get a swimming pool? Like me from Dagenham, him from Isern. So I'm like, we better use this guys and let everyone use it. And just in case we're poor tomorrow. The thing is, the thing is boys, it's because Stacey's well involved with the WhatsApp group.

She knows them all. I don't know who they are. I don't know who their kids are. I don't know if we're friends with our kids. Well, that happened to me at our birthday party where we had a swimming pool party and Lou was like, I'll give some pizzas out to like parents. We've got extra when they come. So I'm giving this pizza. I'm walking around inside of Stringport, that's your library. I went over and started giving this pizza, it's a fucking book club that meets every week. I had to go back and get the pizza off. I don't know the parents are. So yeah, but that is a bit of a stitch up about checking with Joe first though, isn't it Stace? Maybe, but I thought it was what was right.

Do you think it's quite funny that he's there dealing with that a bit? Yeah, and deep down I'm like, you know what, you don't want to be on the WhatsApp? You've got what's coming to you. So you can join the WhatsApp though? I'm going to add him and accept. Yeah, but also on what number? I've got five numbers for Joe. Try and find me guys. Catch me if you can, WhatsApp crew. Do you know what Rob, he breaks his phone so often that we have to do like really important

meetings sometimes and they're on FaceTime and he broke his camera, his speaking thing. So all he could do was sit there and show his face and not speak. For like six months he left it like that. He had to be like, so what do you think Joe? And he'd be like, thumbs up. Great. We were a bit concerned when it was like, Stacey and Joe together, I was like, I don't know what this, this could be you two walking around a full house

on speakerphone. But as soon as I saw the office, I was like, oh no, the PR have got me, it's gonna be proper. There's no kids inside. They wouldn't let us do this one at home. So how long did you have the cameras in for? They started in summer and finished at Christmas, just before Christmas.

Yeah, so like six months. Well, it was really nice as well, because we watched them all back. It's almost like- Did you watch them back as a family? Yeah. And it's so nice, because it's like having a family diary. So the kids have changed so much over those six months.

And to see it back, it's lovely. So if no one watches it, at least we'll watch it. And I'm in it. Usually I'm not in the videos. Because I'm videoing them. So it's so nice. I'm like, oh my God, look how I exist. And was it anything that you asked to be taken out?

Yeah. That's too much. Only if it concerned the kids, ever. Like anything else, we're like fair game, it's us and we've asked ourselves up for it. Nice, and this is more of a semi-serious question, where you both came up through fame so young and like, you know, knew to it all from backgrounds that weren't rich or used to fame, and both got badly treated by the press in different ways, I think you could both agree with. But now it's so amazing that with social media and then this documentary, you can show the world the real you, not the newspaper version of you. And the caricature that they've made. Is there a freedom to that?

I 100% think it's such a nice way to just have a right of reply to everything that we get spoken about. Whether we say anything, we don't do any interviews or media or anything throughout the year unless we're doing something like this, which is probably not. But we get spoken about no matter what. We could post a picture on Instagram that's just us two together and there would be a whole story written about it. So it is really nice for people to just be like... It would be like Joe and Stacey break their silence on relationship. And it's like, lovely Mill with Stace. And that would be the break of silence.

Literally. So it's nice to just have a big old write-up reply where it's like, this is actually all it is. This is what we do. This is who we are. That's it. And then hopefully people will get an insight into that. And yeah, it does feel quite liberating. I feel like we're quite lucky because when I was younger, especially being in the industry when I was an EastEnders, you never really had the opportunity with social media and stuff like that to have a right to reply. So it was very much whatever the press said was gospel. So this is lovely. We get a little bit more ownership over of what people see and, you know, read

and see about us. So I think it's a good thing. And also it's on 8pm on BBC One. It's like, no, I can't think of another couple that BBC One would do like a proper prime time reality show about, you know what I mean? It's a real like- I'm not scary, am I? Honestly, when we first found out about this, me and Stacey literally sat down with each

other and said, will people be interested in watching score runs and nappy changes? Because- Joe, Joe, me and Rob have that discussion every fucking time a contract comes up. You can push it, you can get away with it, mate. It's so funny. It's got legs boys. It's got some legs. But like 8pm on BBC One, that's like, that's such a kind of, it's not just like a reality show tucked away. This is like, you're the nation's sweethearts.

Oh, I don't know man. Well, let's wait and see. We'll be cancelled tomorrow. You are at the moment, but can't come six weeks time, we'll never speak to you again. You'll be texting us going, can we come back on the podcast? We'll be like, fuck it now Rob, if only he loses phone again. I would say that when I was at your wedding, which is a real test of like a family and relationships, isn't it? Because all the good and bad comes out at a wedding where everyone has to come together.

But it was such a lovely day filled with so much love. Like the speeches went on for about three hours and everyone was laughing hysterically or crying hysterically. There was so much emotion and love within the family. It's just like, I think any other couple or family might think, oh, I don't know if they should really do that. But what you've got is so pure and just being able for people to see it is so lovely. Yeah, totally. Do you remember when my dad started his speech at that wedding, Rob, and then the sun went down before he ended it?

It was a love speech. I was like, Dave, now we've got to go on to the dances because you overran. It was so, so, so amazing. But like I say, it was busy. I think you're used to it now, but like, there's so much going on. There's so many people and stuff like that. How do you find the time to sort of like, have individual moments with the kids?

Do you know what I mean? Cause you're spread everywhere. Do you make the effort to go, right, now this one, having a bit of trouble at school, ever let's have a bit of one-on-one time. Cause it must be hard to spread yourself. Yeah, I listen, I think ultimately the kids come first. So anything like that where the kids have got any issues

or problems, you know, they come before our work. So we'll have that sorted straight away. So we tag team it as well. Yeah. You know what it's like, they've all got under clubs as well. So you're like, not only are you doing the school run, you're like, oh, Saturday tennis, dancing with the girls.

So you get those little moments where you get them on their own individually for those separate things. And we can have like little bits of time from them. But also, sometimes I think we worry too much. Because quite frankly, there are five kids, we're just two people, so you've got to get over it. We have to spread ourselves between you. We'll do the best we can and hopefully we don't mess it up. Exactly. You don't overthink it. You can't overthink it can you? No, you just got to go.

And also every day is different. You got to be really sort of like adaptable as well. So like I said, we've got older kids. So all of our kids are sort of going through different stages in life, whether it's teenagers or if it's kids coming from nursery to primary school or primary school to secondary school. There's so many different things that we need to sort of keep tabs on.

But as a family, you know, we're so close and we're so tight that I don't think any of our kids would go through moments like that without any of us recognizing it, you know? Yeah, you're the main priority the whole time, like especially, you know, with you Joe, like when we was working together for those years, it's always been about family and getting home

to your boy and the other kids and stuff. Yeah, especially like we all grew up, we grew up, we was all lucky we grew up in a family full of love. Not a lot of money, but a lot of love. And I think that's the most important thing, you know, our house is full of love. Yeah, I couldn't agree more with that. How do you, you know, say you try and split the responsibilities, and I would say from the chat, Stacey, you're more aware of all of it through the WhatsApp groups.

Joe, are you taking direction from Stacey more of, right, this is what we're doing this week or do you know what's going on as well? Or would you say you're more of an employee as opposed to a managing director? Yeah, I'm more of a day-to-day, don't tell me what's happening tomorrow, just let me have the schedule when I'm doing it. But yeah, Stacey's so organised, she sort of knows the ins and outs of the clubs and what they're doing and then she'll fill it down to me and then I'll give my memo. Have you had any mishaps, Jo, with the wrong places, wrong uniforms, wrong clubs?

Oh, just earlier I had to ring him because I was like, babe, the nursery's asking for nappies again, but I gave you the nappies to give to him. Did you give it to him? He's like, oh, I think I gave it to the wrong nursery. Let's just get one thing straight. I didn't say it without a voice. But I did give it to the wrong nursery, yeah.

So you make mistakes, but you know. And is it nice working together? Like, is it like this kind of thing? Is it like, oh, we've got a bit of time, just the two of us? Literally, me and Joe said, without this show, we wouldn't have seen each other this year. I'll be quite honest with you, it's forced us together. All you needed was a film crew and a BBC One commission.

Oh my God, what did I do with Rex the other day? Oh, the other day I took Rex into school and the teacher rang me and she was like, hiya, I'm here with Rex and he's got two left shoes on. So I do it as well, we all do it. It's alright, don't worry. That just reminded me of that. What about you two? What day, got any days coming up?

Can you go away together without the kids or a night away? When do you spend time together? No, I mean, on my birthday we went, we've done a little bit of fishing. We had a night away, didn't we? Yeah, we found like little fishing lodges. 24 hours is the max when you've got five kids and you've got ducks. You can't just get up and leave. We can't go away.

You can't leave the ducks, Rob. You can, you can leave five kids, but the ducks. Dave draws the line at ducks. Imagine trying to get a babysitter for more than one day for all of those things, for the ducks, the dogs, the kids. So you've got ducks as well, any other animals? Two dogs. Two dogs, there's a couple of cats that run around as well, isn't there?

Yeah, some wild cats. Sorry, are they your cats? No. No. We're getting some bees. Oh, this is a new one. Here we go, come sit here, come series two. They're blowing some bees like David Beckham.

We're getting some bees, but Becky, listen to this. So Stacey's... What we want to do is, what Stacey wants to do is, is that we can grow all of our own food so we don't have to... How cool would that be? It's amazing, It's amazing. It's amazing.

But I walked into a conversation the other day and at the back of the conversation all I heard was, so are we going to get a cow or not? And I was like, there's no way that we are getting a cow. A dairy cow. Because she'll have me out there milking that cow. I'm not up for that. I don't mind a little mouse, but not doing a cow. Yeah, you couldn't go to milk it, would you, Jake? You'd milk it, wouldn't you, Seth?, but not more than a cow.

Yeah, you couldn't want to milk it, would you? You'd milk it, wouldn't you? Do I milk a cow? Yeah. They only said, I'd have to have a few cows because they have baby... You can't just have a cow on its own, can you? No, you can't have just one cow. One cow milk it. And then you need to be more land for a few cows.

So actually, it turns out I can't have cows, all right? Right. So, I'm had a couple of them. But I could have goats and we could get goat's milk. Oh, I do like the idea of goat's milk. I feel weird milking a goat than a cow. Yeah. I feel I'd rather go bigger than smaller. If I don't like goat's cheese, do you reckon that might... I don't think you should convert to goat milk just because you've got a goat. Yeah. You could grow the veg and fruit and stuff, but I...

Oat milk, get some oats, milk that. Oh my God. I am growing some oats. Are you? Yeah, I am growing some oats, but Joe was like, what's the point in growing oats because they're so cheap. It's gotta be the most boring thing to grow in it.

So what are you doing? I'm just out in the greenhouse and looking at me oats. But when you say you're growing oats, Stacey, are you literally getting the soil ready or you getting a farmer to come and do it? Yeah, well I'm going to ask Farmer Scott to just rake the land for me and then yeah, put the seeds in and grow some oats. So you'll seed it, so you'll get him to get it ready and then you'll maintain it.

Where do you get the time? Well as Farmer Scott's doing most of the heavy lifting. Farmer Scott's going to, well all it is is a rake and he's got a tractor, I haven't got a tractor. Fair enough. Give it a year, you'll be on a tractor. I would like my own tractor, I'm not gonna lie. I would love to have a tractor. And a proper forklift to get... A forklift?

I'd like a forklift, I'd like a shovel truck, I'd like a... What do you think you would move? Stacey's getting it for Christmas, make some notes for shea. Forklift truck. Do you think you would move to a forklift? It's quite obvious when you wrap up a forklift truck? Do you think you would move to a bigger house? It's quite obvious when you wrap up a forklift truck while it is. Just hard to get it delivered because you need one to deliver it. Would you move? Because obviously you love where you are, but would you move? Because you've got a bit of land

but it's not like a farm, it's just a nice house with a bit of space. Would you move anywhere else bigger like a bit of a Clarkson's Farm show? No, but I am a reclo- like even though we're really public people, I am a real recluse and I can really see myself- She says on her promo for a reality show in between Instagram posts. I am a reclo- like I would, my dream would be one day to live off my land and just be with my family and that's it. Joe, how are you feeling about that?

I mean, it does sound lovely, doesn't it? I mean, listen, I'd love to do that. I thought I'd struggle moving out of London because it's so busy and I'm so used to it, but I really do quite enjoy, you know, shutting our door, having our kids run around, you know. It's like having our own little world in a world. So it's like our little safe place. I feel disconnected from everything, can I love you?

Yeah, I'm a big fan of that. Josh grew up in the countryside, where it was more like that. That's why I want to live in the city. Do you think you'll go back that way, Josh? No. As you get older? No. Genuinely, you always think you'll be city? I can't.

I like the idea of splitting my time. How far in the country were you though, Josh? Oh, mate. I had four kids in my year at school. Oh, yeah, okay, well. Sorry, they're out. There was, yeah, there's more. You've got more kids than I had in my year at school.

I was on Dartmoor, so literally in a village that had a post office that's now closed down on one pub that didn't really like locals. That is quite out out. I mean we're still only a 45 minute drive from London and we're only 10 minutes away from the nearest town, but it feels like you're in the middle of nowhere. So it's 10 minutes, if the goat runs dry and needs some milk. Exactly, and we can still Uber eat, so. Oh, I wouldn't say you're out in the open. You're not off grid.

I just want to live off my own land as long as a guy on a moped can bring them a gun. And how do you feel about as your kids get older, because you say you want to live on the land surrounded by your family, as the kids get older they might want to move out, they might want to go and live in the right, can you imagine it just being you and Joe in the end? The thing is right, we've time this perfectly, because we're all at different ages, when the older ones start flying the nest, we've still got like Rex and Layton and when they go and got Belle. By the time Belle leaves home our youngest child, I better have some grandkids, that's all I'm saying. By then, in 18 years time, Zach will be in his 30s.

So. Stacy, can I offer you a proposition and see how you feel about this? Do you want to give me some grandkids? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know what I'll have to do, I don't know what me and Dave will have to do for that to happen.

No, so like Zach's 30 now and he's met someone. They're having kids, but she's from Scotland. So he's going to move to Edinburgh with her. So she's going to be close to her mum. Okay. Yeah, I think we'll present her slightly. I will get really good friends with his partner. This is my boy. Because remember, I only had boys up until three years ago. So I've been thinking about this a lot. And how boys marry out.

Yes. And they go off, they meet a new mum who becomes their wife. And that's that. You never hear from again. So I have been thinking about my strategy around this for a really long time. I'm going to get really close with whoever Zach and Layton decide to fall in love with. Yes. I'm going to make a point of supporting them and being there for them and offering my services.

Not because you want to, but just because you're making a point of it. No, not because I want to. No, but gradually. She's playing the long game. So they stay nearby. No, I want them to be free and I want them to be happy and if they end up in Scotland it will give us an excuse to go and visit. I won't be devastated.

Absolutely. And in the same brief, if they wanted to build them a house in our garden, we wouldn't be happy to do it. The foundations are laid. Are you basically imagining a house like a village of six different houses? I'm imagining kibbutz style, yeah, small village on a very, very small village. Also, slowly getting smaller houses as all of them want to move in. The more children we have, the less square footage you've got, I'm afraid.

You can see which of our favourite kids by the size of the house. Or pay for them to go on holiday with is a good one to keep them on side for a long time, Stacey. Exactly. And how were the kids with the filming? Did they enjoy it? Well, they were just, it wasn't about them. So if they wanted to be in it, they could be in it. If they didn't, they didn't. They just went off and did their own thing. So they just did whatever they thought was fun. Because the Tyson Fury one, if it's similar to that, it's very much following him. And if he was doing the school run, they're sort of in the car for two minutes and they kicked

out. And it's about you two rather than them. Yeah. And some days, like our teenagers actually were the ones who convinced us to do this. They were like, this will be so funny. You have to do it. Yeah, they really wanted to do something like that. So some days they'd be like, oh, come and look at this and come with us over here. But if they didn't, there'd also be days when they're like, nah, I want to film both. Yeah. Oh, God. Imagine that, Rob, the dream.

Yeah. Well, also, they're at that age as well, is he how old, Zach? 17? So, yeah, you're at that stage where they're like, you know, they're proper, intelligent, grown-up kids where they're like winding the parents up they're properly intelligent grownup kids where they like winding the parents up or go look what he does, look what she does and all that kind of stuff. Have any of them shown any interest in like getting into kind of similar things? Oh, none at all.

They think this is so weird what we do. They think this is the weirdest industry ever. Zach wants to be a mechanic and he's already training and works at a mechanics. And Leighton wants to do something. All he knows is he wants to do something up in London, like, obviously. He does not, neither of them want to think this is cool. We thought we had really cool jobs and they humble us on a daily basis. I think that's healthy. When your kids don't really like respect your job. I'm telling myself that. And someone with two kids that couldn't give a lesser fuck about my job. I'm like, oh, that's good parenting. That's good parenting.

KSI put me in, said my name in one of his songs. And that's the coolest thing that's ever happened to me. That's the first time my kids have ever been like, that's cool, mum. That was cool. Everything else. Because you've taken to those misfits events, haven't you? You know, the boxing. Yeah. I've seen you that. It's so, because this misfits is so funny watching this

because you'd think misfits is all like the YouTubers and stuff. So it's like an arena full of 17 year olds, right? And then nearer the front, you occasionally see like two or three kids with just like the most random celebrity mom or dad. That has gone, please come and please go have a tiki, because I'm just sitting there looking like,

what the fuck am I doing here? I didn't, I loved it. I made it, I made it. I made it. I signed up for Spitz. Was you at the Sidemen football match as well, weren't you? The Sidemen. Yeah, yeah, Wembley.

Honestly, I couldn't believe they sold out 90,000 tickets. It was incredible. It's incredible what those YouTubers did. Such a good thing that they did. And they're actually really nice. They're really nice young men. If I said that in front of my kids, they would literally be like, shut up, mum. They're actually really nice. They're all quite sharp and intelligent businessmen, really. And they're just lovely with the kids as well.

They understand that the kids just love them. So they always give them five minutes. They've got time for everyone, yeah. So what else have the older kids dragged you to? What like, because you went to them, like, I'm going to Taylor Swift, Josh has been going Sabrina Carp into her, and then Monster Trucks, your wife took your boy to,

was it Monster Trucks? And he got ill, so he couldn't go, but she loved it, he was half-broken. Minecraft, yeah. The Minecraft. You might do the movie, go and watch the movie with the kids. They love that. And what's that, can you take all five?

Because that's the thing, like we've got a three and a seven year old and you're like, I've got to find something that both of them are going to enjoy. What do you do? And I bet all of you want to take the seven year old out. You're like, I'll take the seven year old. You stay with the three year old. Yeah.

So how do you do when there's five? I would say, if like, I've got this, I'll take Rex. You take the girl. I'll take Rex Dogman and then you go soft plate. How do you split it? You just split it like that, don't you? Sometimes you have to suck it up and they have to come with and they do act a bit crazy and you get over it.

But most of the time we do split it, don't we? All their clubs are at separate times. We try and give them... Birthday parties. You must have birthday parties. Oh, I hate birthday parties. There must be them every weekend. It's got five kids.

Whenever the kids come out with a little bag of Haribo, you know there's a party coming. There's an invitation with that. Sometimes you go, I hope my kids are popular at school. I don't. I hope he's got no money. I'd be one man. But what me and Stacey like to do is we like to take all of our kids to the parties because then you don't get invited in the end.

Then it's three day out. Also, three day out and they all get lunch. They'll get a goody bag. So will you just turn up, even if it's not officially on the invite, then say the Rex has been invited to a party, will you just turn up with the younger ones? No, you have to say our siblings allowed, but what they don't realise is that there's four siblings, do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's quite, it's quite public.

Are siblings invited? Well, some of them don't know, or at least some of them don't. And can you say, are siblings invited? And one of the other mums will say, are siblings invited? And if the parent says yes, I'm like, bam! Come on kids, it's party time! Oh yes, people are your best clothes! Ninja warrior for everyone! Yeah let's go! Do you have any school gate friends? Because obviously there's so many to keep on top of all different years or is it very much dump and run? I try not to have a lot of eye contact. I feel

like eye contact opens you up to conversation. So I try to sort of like... You'd rather not go that Joe Swash is quite weird and kind of... You just go in with a head down, which is a bold statement of your hairline, Joe. Yeah. You did.

Yeah, I just try to avoid conversation. Stacey knows them all. She's on the WhatsApp. I've got some really good ones. There's some really nice school, my friends. We go on walks, we go out. I find that the mums have more wholesome relationships than the men.

I sort of just play five a side now and again, but I don't really meet up for- That's quite a lot. That's good. I quite like playing- You don't need to meet up with them. No, for five a sides fun, because you want to play football, but hanging out, I'm just like, I'd rather be a bit, I like, I don't know if it's just a men thing or a dad thing.

I quite like a bit of quiet. So if I've got an evening, I'd more like to sit on my own. I think it's a job thing as well, Rob. I think you spend your whole life kind of being on. You don't want to have to be on when you're- Maybe if I had a job that I worked on my own and didn't speak, because I just sat at home typing. Yeah. I'd be a bit more chatty, but- I need my school, my friends,

because sometimes there's a lot of politics at the school run, where you park, who you're speaking to. Oh, I kicked off in the WhatsApp group the other day. You mentioned it. Oh, we get it on Facebook. Go on. I've been, basically, I walk to school and it's about three miles. So I drive Rexie in and I walk home and then I walk back to my car and pick him up and

I leave my car. Oh, that's clever. Right? But some people don't like it when you park a certain way on the school run. And I was on the Facebook page the other day because apparently I was at inconsiderate park. Where did you park? I was on the road.

Like it's totally legal. I was in a bitate park. Where did you park? I was on the road. Like, it's totally legal. I was in a bit where you're allowed to be. But I think because, I actually think it's because I was there first. And I thought, well, you know, you snooze, you lose. I've been here since 9 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, you've reserved this towel on a beach. Don't you have that at your school? Like, there's always a battle of the car park.

So ours is just one normal road. So parents, some parents turn up at like, half past two to get right at the front. Yeah, which is fine. If you want to make the effort, do it. Or you're one of those parents that's sort of like, you're at the back of the line, back of the road, and you're sort of hovering, you wait till a car pulls out, you're like, yeah, I'll have that. Yeah, those are normal road. But there's like,

yeah, if you get there early, you get closer. But if you get there late, it's quite a long road. So there's normally space for sometimes a bit of a walk, but some people park on the corner, which is double yellow line. Oh, wow. So it makes it hard to get out of order because that is actually illegal. Have you ever done it, Rob? Never. And I go, I do, I sometimes a little bit of a tap. That's a shame. Oh, yeah.

Sometimes I just drive by and say, that's a shame. Oh, yeah. Shame. Sometimes I just drive by and say, that's a shame. Oh, yeah. But on the WhatsApp group, apparently someone said, like, don't take a photo of the number plate and was like, that's inconsiderate. You shouldn't put it there. Oh, my word.

And then someone else on the same WhatsApp group went, what do you think you're talking to? And basically, I had an argument and then the person in charge of WhatsApp group deleted all the messages because they were the admin. Are you one of the WhatsApp group? No, Lou showed me. I'm not on it. So, let's say Lou had screen grabbed them.

So, I was on one, right, and then I became the class rep and because I didn't do a good enough job, but I thought I relayed all the messages. I'm just not fucking busy. Do you know what I mean? I don't over blow it. When a new WhatsApp group happened, I didn't get added to it. And I didn't go looking for it. You were just not class rep. You were deleted from the WhatsApp group.

I was deleted and you know what? I was quite happy about it. So did Lou screen grab all the argument and charge it? Yeah, he said it to me. But he also deleted, deleted because they deleted it. That's hilarious. I do love the drama. It's amazing. Honestly, the school run and just being around picking the kids up, it's like a sitcom in itself. People are so stressed aren't they? Their faces are like filled with adrenaline because they're like, do this, do that. Like, you know, every day this is, you think you get a better system.

And so what's the, what have you guys got coming up now? Like when you're going away, Stacey, you're doing like seven day blocks on that show where you sort people's houses out. Yeah, so that starts to. Does that mean Joe is just on his own? No, it depends on location how far he's. I go backwards and forwards.

Oh, okay. In fact, I even did it when we went to Scotland. We went to Scotland and I came back. You could have grandkids back in Scotland. Yes, I'd be fired if you had grandkids right there. As long as I'm filming, sort your life out. You've got to sort your life out. Come down south.

So you try and come back. But will you have planning meetings with each other to go, right, I've got this coming up. Where are you? Have you got a job? What's this? What's that? It's a constant review. Yeah. We're like, right, what's the next four weeks looking like, mate? And then dad has to get in on it. And then we'll be like...

Joveth Swastra's not got a shared Google calendar, have you Joanne? I have, mate. Do you look at it? There's so much. I do have a little, little everything. There's so much in there that I don't like to overwhelm myself. The other day we got in the car together and we had like a day of work together doing the same thing and we got in the car and he was like, so Stace, what are we doing today? I was like, it's in your diary. He was like, you haven't seen it.

I was like, okay, let me just be your PA. Some would say just being my wife. So it's available on iPlayer as we speak. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm imagining this is going. Oh, sorry. That was really good. It was really professional, but actually it ruined the whole thing. No one knows when it's on. But you know what? There is some clips up already. It's called Stacey and Jo, This Is Us, and episode one, we've got a second wedding anniversary, teenagers try to dodge the household chores, and a much needed family holiday to Turkey. Oh yeah, the Turkey. I forgot about that. How was that holiday? I can't wait to watch this back. I forgot all about it.

And it's called Stacey and Joe. Was it ever going to be Joe and Stacey? Did you pitch for that? No. We didn't even choose the title. They looked at the amount of Instagram followers they knew to leave with. I did suggest Joe and Co, but it didn't go down. Meet the swatches.

And we always finish with the same thing that we normally do separately, but we can do it together now. I don't know if that'd be more intense. I think we've both asked this before, but I don't know if it's changed. Is there one thing that the other does that you think, oh my god, I'm so lucky to be married to them and have children with them. And is there one thing they do that I wish they stopped doing that because it just makes it harder and does my head in? How long you got for Stacey? Primarily, I wouldn't want to have anyone else's, I wouldn't want to have anyone else as my mum to my kids. She's the most amazing, loving mum.

I mean, you cross her, if it involves the kids, you're in trouble. She's so protective and I love that about her. And something I could do with that is that I've never known anyone to eat crisps so loud. She accentuates the noise, honestly. But apart from that, we're gravy. You can, you swooped in there with the second one. I thought the first one was going for a bit longer. I thought it was a bit pushed for time, so it goes. It's got as long as you want, Jo. The biggest thing I love about Jo is how much he loves his family.

He is like, nothing is more important than Jo's family. And I think that's the thing that I fell in love with when I first met you. I've said this to you a million times. He spoke about his son so much and I just thought, oh my God, he loves his boy so much. And that is the most attractive thing ever. Also, I'm quite an attractive fella. You are an attractive guy. You fit this far. As well as all the sexual magnetism as well on top of that.

Let's not forget the sexual magnetism. No. The thing that annoys me the most. Right now, the thing that's annoying me the most is that he forgot to put trainers on this morning. He was wearing socks and sliders. And I get the ick every time I look down. So what about your outfit?

You look a bit like you've just been released from prison. You've got a... Yeah, have you got anything on under your... You're wearing a zip-up hoodie with nothing underneath. I slept from my alarm. I slept from my alarm, boys. Show him your feet. On 5am?

This is what I'm dealing with. I slept from my alarm. So these are the clothes I actually slept in last night. No. You've got to show him the feet. Oh, no. This is how he's come out the house. Oh, my word.

And you've got a full day of interviews, Rob. Yeah, but they look like little rogues man. Stacey, give me cramp. Are any of the interviews visual? Yeah, all of them. We just had to do a whole lot of radio where they film the radio at the same time. And I was like, wow, this is the biggest itch way. But has he not got a t-shirt on?

I've got some clothes in the car that I'll go and get changed into for later. I was just in a rush this morning. I had to get out as fast as possible. So we're not good enough for the good clothes. What are you getting raised for? I mean it doesn't look like you two made much of an effort either. Becky, it looks like you're drying your clothes

behind you on the closels. So you two could pull your fingers out a little bit. I'm covering up a mirror and Lou's Pilates bench. Oh, I love Pilates. In the wellness space. Yeah, Lou does it. It'd be good if she did it. Did she do reformer? She does the idea of it.

She does do reformer. She hasn't done it on there, but she goes to classes. She's smashing it, to be fair. But yeah, she loves it. I'd say that one's not been overused, but the one at the class gets used. But this one, I'd say this one we could send back and get the full refund. If we were to. Anyway guys thanks so much good luck with the series.

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