Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S10 EP34: Jack Skipper

Episode Date: June 19, 2025

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with advice and of course tales of parenting woe. Because let's be

honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing. Hello you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Grace can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. And can you say Josh Whiddicombe? Can you say Rob Beckett? And can you say Josh Whiddicombe? Good girl, that was great. Smash that. There we go. I should apologize. I've got the window open again, Rob. This is going to be a running theme throughout the summer. When I lived in London, like busy London, the heat is in a heatwave. It's unbearable because

there's no breeze because all the buildings are so high. And if you've got a certain room that just gets to sun in the afternoon, you're dead. It feels when you go out on the street, it feels like, you know, like when you see footage of like New York in the 80s and people are break dancing on pieces of cardboard. Yeah. You just think that looks too hot for my taste. That's what it feels like. Hi, Josh, Robert Michael. This is my two year old daughter, Grace, absolutely nailing the intro clearly to my surprise based on my high pitched response. The podcast kept me saying as a geriatric in quotes, parent, especially seeing that everyone is struggling with the same shit. Stay sex and relatable Darren, 585 months fucking

else that's what 52 or something and in man colada who is 584 months that's 52 ish as well. Talking about getting older dads there's a guy in my gig the other night he's got 18 year old, oh windows going down again what's happened? It's just there's an air show or something. There's some kind of something going on. We're not in a flight path. So it's some kind of military thing. Oh, gosh. Yeah. You know, he had a he had an 18 year old son, an eight year old son and a 16 month son. That is how he staring down the barrel of 40 years of being a parent to a child.

That is that is something else. Isn't it? of being a parent to a child. That is, that is something else. Isn't it? Email him with your longest chain. How long without, how long have you gone? In years. With an under 18.

With an under 18. That's got to be the record, isn't it? So Rob, the last episode ended with the house music coming. It was my gardeners. I went down to have a word. Your own gardeners were playing house music? Yeah, it wasn't... So these gardeners Rob, can I be honest? Go on.

They're too fit for my tastes. Right. And they've been topless all week. Right, well, but you exclusively hire female gardeners. You've always done it. It's a quality thing. They keep playing in the sprinklers Rob, it's very distracting. Could you wash the car as well, I've got some denim shorts for you. How, right, talking through, age?

Two guys in their late 20s. Late 20s. Mediterranean complexions. Oh yeah. And both ripped. I said to Rose, they're both ripped. And she said, well, more than the other. And I was like, all right, fucking yeah. Also, when she said one more than the other, I thought, if you think one of these two isn't ripped,

what you must think of my body is fucking good. I tell you what, there is no better tan than the scaffolder in the summer. The scaffolder in the summer in a heat wave or the guy that hires out jet skis on the beach. That guy is always the most tan van ever. Well you should come to my garden Rob. It's like diet coke break all day long. It's unbelievable. Oh, so I just got to give the keys to my tour manager one second.

Sorry about that. What keys are you giving your room? My tour manager's top is in my car. His pants are in my drawers. No, he's, he needed to get something out of the car. I had the car key. Why did you have the car key? Cause I'm using it later to visit a friend. As much as I love the, um, one of the best, if not the best hotel in Swansea,

I don't really, if I stayed in her all day, Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in trouble. Yeah, yeah. We're back to Gab. And it would be weird if you got your tour manager to drive you to lunch with your friend. Yeah, yeah. And it's sitting in the car and wait.

Some people do that though. Name me no names. Yeah, name me no names. Yeah. So, so the topless and they're in the garden. And how long are they here for? Three weeks. Do you know what, I feel like the next episode, I'll be like, what's that laughing in the garden?

And it'll be like Lou Rose and Tom Allen all sat there having a drink. So Rob, you know we've got a shed at the bottom of our garden that's got some weights in it. Is that where you do your Peloton? Yeah. How's your Peloton going? I wouldn't say we're breaking even. No. I wanted to do the

weights yesterday, but I thought I just can't do it. I just can't. I can't go into the garden. These two beefcakes. No, that was the correct decision. So I went for a run in the tropical heat, because I wanted to do exercise, but I just couldn't. Well, because I've just started trying to run outside and it's impossible when it's hot. I can see all these people fainted at the Mariford. I almost shat myself the other day. Right. I thought I'll go for a run around the park in this kind of heat.

And I started to get the shivers and I thought I'm gonna shit myself here Why? Because the heat was too much for me. I've never heard I'm so hot I could shit. Have you shat yourself? E-mail it. No, I've heard of Have you ever shit yourself because you're too hot? That's not I've heard of vomit. No, it's not too hot It's because you're exercising in the heat like Gary Lineker against the Republic of Ireland No, that's not he had to know that it's got me a stomach problem I did some I did a video with some filming with Daniel DuBois, you know the boxer

Yeah, right It's gonna go out in a few weeks and we was training his training camp and he trains in this like metal barn And it was on one of those 30 degree days Then they got me in the ring and they were training me. But it was so hot. I thought I was going to be sick or faint. My legs were all going, no, that's what I'm saying. No. And then I was like, Oh, I feel a bit faint, you know, and that's why I've got a sick bucket. If you're going to be sick, just be sick and carry on. No, that's, there was no poo bucket. That's what I'm saying. You're not listening Josh.

I don't think people get too hot and shit themselves. Paula Radcliffe? Paula Radcliffe didn't shit herself because it was too hot. It wasn't in China and it was too hot. No. I can't believe I'm googling this. Why did Paula Radcliffe shit herself? I'll do where did Paula Radcliffe shit herself between this we'll find out. It'd be great if we had Paula Radcliffe on the show today. Oh wow. At the London Marathon it was. Runner's Diarrhea. That's what I had.

I had Runner's Diarrhea. What's Runner's Diarrhea? A common issue for long distance runners. How far would you run? 3k. And then the runner's diarrhea kicked in. So I had to go on a quiz. Right. What was runner's diarrhea then?

She is a common issue for long distance runners and had to stop during a race to, she had to stop during a race to suffocate. Nick, can I ask you a question? Nick, have you ever been running? Where's he come from? Nick's just dropped his shirt back. Nick, have you ever, Josh nearly shit himself because he was too hot? Have you ever had that? No, no, no, because I was running. Where's he come from? Nick's just dropped his shirt back. Nick, have you ever, um, Josh nearly shit himself because he was too hot? Have you ever had that? No, no, no, cause I was running. Cause I was running. Nick says yes.

Oh, good on you Nick. Was you running Nick or exercising? Or would you, but you just running and you're too hot and you nearly shit yourself. Okay, fair enough. Cheers Nick. That's backfired for me. I was backfired, I'll tell you that for free. Cheers Nick. Do you know what I stand corrected? Maybe it's a running thing. Maybe it's a running thing. I'll go running today and I'll let

you know whether I've been I've been Josh, I've been really hot. hottest I've ever been. Right. When's the hottest you've ever been? I remember when we did the last leg. What we what I would describe as the ill fated last leg down under documentary. Every TV show has got a few spin-offs that never work. We went to a like a Opal like, you know, Opal, the kind of gem, an Opal mine in the middle of presumably like the Australian desert on a morning. I mean, it didn't help that we were hung over, I think.

Probably, I don't remember whether we were, but I'm sure we were. I vividly remember just standing outside that and looking at the sound man, and he had to have, you know, like a beekeeper's style, like hat on, because the flies were so bad. Oh, God. And it was so hot. And I remember thinking, this isn't, this isn't for me. Did you shit? I didn't shit myself. No, I didn't. I think maybe when we went to Dubai for our tour show was pretty hot outside.

That's probably about 45, but yeah, my glasses steamed up when I walked outside of Dubai. The hottest I've ever been though is I once was in, it was out, when I was in London, I lived in London and one of them tiny little courtyard gardens, it was a heatwave at 33 degrees and I was doing a barbecue but I was barbecuing in direct sunlight with a barbecue in front of me. Oh God. I got so, we were supposed to be going out that night but I got so ill and hot that I

got quickly heat and had to go home. Do you know what, Rob, manning the coconut shire last year's school fete was pretty intense. And this year, I volunteered, but I said it has to be in the shade. And I've been put on the cake stall. He's got demands. He's got a rider. I was like, I'm willing to help, but please not in the sun

again. I can't handle it. Are you going to negotiate that deal? Yeah. Well, let us know the hottest you've ever been. Let us know the hottest you've ever been. But do you know who is hot, Rob? the comedy world Jack skipper is piping hot? He's absolutely do you know what good-looking guys well, he wouldn't be misplaced doing your garden

He's top of this plan. I'll get your top off and get out there and lay some bloody start flagstones What you haven't done in the garden Astro turf up and we'll get rid of the Astro turf. Yeah Because full disclosure Rob. Yeah lawns are not a thing in Hackney. You've just got to admit it. You've just got to admit to yourself. Yeah, you can't have a little grass and it just turns into a mud pahile, doesn't it? You can't have muck grass.

And the AstroTurf, we're getting it replaced with a nice paved thing with like. Exactly. Because AstroTurf, I'm going to say, is the worst of both worlds. Exactly. It's almost carpet for outdoors, which brings us nicely onto Jack Skipper, ex-carpet fitter, now comedy superstar, and most importantly, parent. Welcome to the show, Jack. Enjoy it.

Hello, Jack Skipper. Welcome to the show. Thanks for doing this, mate. That's all right. No worries. Nice to see you as well, Josh. Jack, the reason this has come about possibly is I said to you that I didn't know whether you'd done the podcast. Yeah. I presumed you had. This is how little I follow the podcast. I presumed we'd already interviewed you.

You were talking like I'd been on it and it was a bit awkward. Yeah. Great episode, Jack. Did you see an alternative ticket sales from it? Yeah. You need to get me on, mate. How many kids you got, Jack? Let's start with that. What's the kid set up? I've got two kids. I've got my daughter who's nine and my boy who's, he's 11 on Saturday actually. Oh Sunday, this Sunday.

What are you doing for it? I'm taking him and three of his mates bowling and then for dinner. Absolute pig, that is. Yeah mate, call it. Well, how many seconds did you think of that for? That's the thing though, with kids nowadays, that's like a normal Saturday, isn't it? It's spoiled, I mean, that was like, I was talking to my brother about it yesterday. I remember his 10th birthday for a treat, we went down the park.

That was like a treat. I mean, that's like, might be like a boring day for my kids. I did a thing on this yesterday on Instagram. I was talking about it. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. The difference between, and I totally said to me that you were basically saying that when you were a kid, you'd go to what your parents did.

Yeah. And now the weekends are you doing what your children want to do. That's it. You just had to go along and make your own fun. I was thinking this, one of the biggest treats for me when I was a kid, right? Going with my dad to collect the Chinese. That was like a proper treat. Cause my dad, your dad's a cabbie, isn't he, Ron? Yeah. Yeah. Cause you know how you used to have the old cabs and it didn't have a seat in the front.

Yeah. You used to sit, we used to sit in the footwell if the back was full. Yeah. And that was a treat for me. I could collect the Chinese. I could sit in the footwell. Yeah. Cause he doesn't have a seat. It's for luggage, isn't it? But yeah, I used to, I've sat in one of them all the way back from central London before because all my aunties are in the back. So there wasn't enough space. Where are you facing? What? I can't believe I'm asking this. When you're sitting in the footwell of a black cab. Cross-legged face in the glove box, whatever it is in front of you. So you're facing forwards, but you can't see out the window? No, not at all. Nothing. Nothing. So if he breaks, that's an absolute nightmare. Right? Is there a glove box?

Yeah. But you get told off for opening that. As long as you're not sort of changing direction or breaking or accelerating, you're all right. And as you know, black cab drivers are so chilled with the way they drive. They're never trying to find a little back route or go this way or that way. So it's absolutely fine. But I was thinking this though. I do think like kids are, they are a bit like a little bit more spoiled nowadays. I know they get this though. I do think like kids are, they are a bit like a little bit more spoiled nowadays and they get more, but I do think they do enjoy the little things. They're the core memories sort of stuff.

Do you know what I mean? Like I even did it last night. We were, so I only had my son yesterday cause my little girl was at a cheerleading competition and we like as a treat, my boy, he just wanted for dinner, he wanted picky bits. Is he a 52 year old divorcee? Just come back from Greece and they'll be and now they're into Mezze. Little Scotch eggs, he wanted that. Do you know what I mean? He's had it on the bed and watched Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. Oh wow. How's that aged?

Oh, it's all right actually. It's still really good. He enjoyed it. He was going, I love this. It's so simple. Where we live now in the countryside, so you can't really ride your bike without like being getting absolutely hammered by a car coming past on a little single track. So on my new car, I can get the bikes in the car. So I took them to the park. I was like, well, I can't keep up with them. So I went for, I tried to go for a run with them.

So I was just running, doing laps to the park while they were on their bikes. And I was like, you can go as far as you want that way. Come back as far as you want. And they were just like building it up and down. And then I was like, dad, that was the best day want that way, come back as far as you want. And they were just like building it up and down and then I was like, dad, that was the best day ever. And it's like just the bike at the park. And they were buzzing. I even do it sometimes, but I know they've like had a day where I think, especially my

son, is he going to sleep well? I actually get him doing hill sprints. Oh really? Just to wear him out. He thinks it's really fun. I'll time you, I'll run up that hill, run back. I'll just time him, just completely wear him out. And that works, he's into that. Yeah, he's into it, yeah, he loves it. So what is it, because 11's a weird age, isn't it, because there is that sort of,

they're so like childlike and young still, or they just start to become like road men. It's like a real like the classic Kevin and Perry sketch. Yeah, yeah. There was that overnight switch where they become a bit miserable and distant and stuff like that, but is he still at that sort of like, you're idolizing your stage.

Yeah, he's probably idolizing, he's impressed by anything I do, it's ridiculous. Really? Well, recently I made him a full English breakfast for dinner. It blew his mind, right? He's like Charlie walking into the chocolate factory. This guy shapeshifts, he does breakfast at dinner. It's like a savoury Willy Wonka. When they feel little things like that, it's naughty, they love it,

don't they? Like when there's something, it's just so, you know, and you go, yeah, I can do that. They're like, oh my God, eggs now. I can see him changing, but it's like changing for the better. He's like, sometimes I look at my son and think, oh, he's cool. He's like, he's probably like, cause I'm getting him into like, he's been doing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu now for like, about seven months. I think it's like, has actually changed him the way he's like, cause they say- He talks Portuguese now, doesn't he? He talks Portuguese. But even though the trainers down there, like they said, cause I've never done it. They said that sport is really good for like staying calm under pressure.

Yeah. You've got someone like getting you in a choke hold, you're there trying to work out how to get out of it. And I think I have seen a change in him. Like he's mellowed out a little bit. He's not gone the other way where he's swaggering about thinking he's hard. It's more that he's just being calmer. I think that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, I don't think that happens.

I was at a play fight with my son. And you know what I love? You let him win. He got me in this choke hold. I was like, fuck. Couldn't get out of it. I was like, no, that's all right. And I was just like, you caught me off guard.

You caught me off guard, mate. Is it weird? I was like, no, that's all right. I was like, no, you caught me off guard. You caught me off guard, mate. Is it weird? I don't know how deep you go within seven months, but have you had to watch him being beaten up? Yeah, you see him like, things are, when you watch it, it's so technical. I don't know what's going on.

I don't know. It's no striking, is it? It's just all like holding and submissions. And you never put full pressure on it. It's not all like holding and submissions and you never put full pressure on it. It's not like you sort of get it in place and then they sort of just tap. So it's not like boxing where you'd watch him being punched in the face kind of thing. By the time it looks like they're getting hurt, they just tap, so it's fine. But I think it's one of the best things about it. If you get your kids into an activity where you ain't

got a clue what it's about, I think it's actually better. Because I've got half an idea about football. So I think if I was watching him do football, you'd have that little tendency to start shouting out like, I'm terrible for that. I try not to, even if I'm just being encouraging, I'll never be negative, but even the encouragement's too much. Whereas my daughter does plays guitar, right? She plays guitar and I haven't got a musical bone in my body. And I don't know what the fucking finger on the fourth fret you're

playing, I don't even know what fret is, right? Nothing. So I love it because I just sit and watch in awe. Whereas in football, I'm a bit like getting the fucking space, Paul, and I'm like, shut up, Rob, I hate myself. And I'm watching my kids play football. Imagine when your kids start getting to stand up and you're just from the sidelines going, no, no, no. Observation! Observation!

Oh no. Pull back and reveal! Get to the fucking punchline! For God's sake! Why are you asking the audience if they've ever been to prayer? You don't need that bit. Just say you were in prayer. We all know what prayer is. We all know what prayer is and if they don't, asking them is not going to help. Don't be afraid to do an act out. You've got good accents. Use them. All of it's showing off. Don't worry.

Jack, you took your son. How core memory is this? So for people that aren't aware of football, Crystal Palace have never won a trophy. Is that right? And then they were playing Man City who, while they didn't win the league, are the biggest team probably in the world or Europe, certainly financially. And you played them in the FA Cup final and you took your son and you won. And I saw you the day of the semi-final and you were very excited. What was that day like? Were you with your dad as well?

Yeah, I mean, it was always the three generations plus my brother as well. I can't talk enough about how amazing it was. Did your daughter go? Was she not into it? I said, do you want to go? She was like, nah, I don't want to. She's just not, she had the option.

She's like that. She just says no. You want to go. This is quite a big family memory. You said to me you weren't going to offer her a ticket because you didn't think girls should like football. I'd say that was between me and you Josh. I've heard of it. You said it was un-ladylike. That was the words you used. They shouldn't be there. She had the option. Yeah, she had the option, you know what I mean? So what was it like? It was amazing, it was tense. It was like that, it was really tense.

But I don't know if you saw the video, but seeing my son with like, cause there was tension when that whistle went, him with tears of joy, like didn't know how to like. Cause he's only just started getting into football as well. Like it's like, it's been a- Are you worried he's been spoiled? With that, oh yeah. He it's been a... He's already been spoiled. With that?

Oh yeah. He's not had many years of hurt really. Like straight away, 10 years old, he's watching his team in the FA Cup final. Oh, that's amazing experience though. It was unreal. It's like I was on a high for ages after that. You can pay for things, can't you, to go to amazing holidays, amazing experiences. You can't plan that.

You can't pay the outcome. That's why live sports so intoxicating, why it's so huge. Like, you know, people can pay for subscriptions, stuff. You can access this, like you can access stuff whenever you want, but you can't access victory. You know what I mean? It just happens if it happens.

If you take the things I've taken my daughter to, Taylor Swift, it was unlikely to play out any different than, you know, like, fucking hell, she fucking brought it tonight. Half the time she's shit. Do you know what I mean? Like, yeah. Yeah. I think that's the thing about having a son and a daughter. With my son, I can just sort of, I can get into his world sort of straight away. Do you know what I mean? Like if he's anything, like I remember being like in football when I was a kid or anything, if he's like crashing two cars

together, I'm like, yeah, I get that. I sort of understand that mentality. But what's lovely about having a daughter though is like, I'm learning her world as well. Because I grew up in quite a masculine environment. It was just like my dad. I'm exactly the same as you. Four brothers. It was all football and lads. And now like, it's actually, I'm loving the sort of novelty of going, oh, this whole other world that exists. Yeah, it's amazing. I had no idea about. I was like, it was my, when I had the kids, I had to take her to her Christmas choir, right?

She didn't have a pretty bow to put in her hair. She was having a bit of a meltdown. That's not like my lived experience. I don't know the importance of the pretty bow in the hair. And I was like, oh shit, fuck. But now every year I'm like, you are getting the prettiest bow. Also, what is a pretty bow? How big does it need to be? What colour? But I love learning about that. Get a massive one for a new calf on the red. You will have the best pretty bow in the class. But it is also, it's like, I like to do this thing as well, when she comes home from school with like, because my boy comes home from school, he doesn't really talk. So say a drama has happened to her that day, like a friend's boy, the ruler, without asking or something like that. Right. Yeah. You said I'm going like, Oh, that's all right. I'm like, you're joking.

And yeah, well into it. I mean, he did well because it's their world. And that's important. I've got that kind of situation where my daughter is in a three, like a friendship kind of triangle. Well, there's four of them actually, and they're very tight, but it's constant. It's not mean girls, but there's constant politics. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you have to remember that this really matters to her in the same way that it would matter to one of us if we thought a comedian said something shitty to us backstage

or something. But in your head, sometimes you are going, oh for fuck's sake, do you not remember last week? We've literally, you know. Yeah. Well, who they sat next to at lunch is like, I was in a dinner queue and then I got pushed back because my potato wasn't ready. So then I didn't get to sit and you're like, oh my God, who gives a fuck? Oh God, sorry about that. But I do recommend though, do it the other way. We're going over the top with your enthusiasm for it. Just be like, what? You had to wait for a tail.

Without a bow in your hair. But it's weird though, my two daughters, one of my daughters is a bit more like that, where she's got a friendship group. There's always a little bit of to and fro. They all get on, but there's always like, so and so did this, I played with that. But my eldest one,

she's just sort of friends of everyone and floats around. If I say, what's up in school? She's like, yeah, fine. Like, I don't know if it's just a straight gender thing or, you know, she has done that no politics whatsoever. Almost to a point where I'm like, do you just like wander about not talking to anyone? What's going on? Like, you need to get in a head, Rob. You need to care more about your fucking friendships, okay? What is wrong with you? You should be crying about the fucking dinner queue, okay? No, I'm very much in awe of her. I wish I was more like her, to be honest.

Do you ever have that when you're sort of in awe of your kids? Do you do that when you sometimes think your kids think, oh, they're cooler than me? Like they do things that are a bit of a bite. Yeah, of course. But you've got to remember how cool I am, Jack. So there's a very low bar. I did this thing, right? I remember we went to Hampton Court and hired out these boats, right? And sometimes if I get recognised when I'm out, people do it where they don't, because I'm on people's phones. They look at me and go, what? Do I know you? Right. So this bloke, he was doing it to me, he was hiring the boats off him.

He was going, where do I know you from? And I always go, I never want to go well. It's difficult to go. It's a really difficult question to answer. Do funny things on the internet? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I was going, I don't know, mate. I don't know. And my son went to me, he went, no, you just tell him what you do, man. You're making it awkward. It was like, it made me look a right div. I was like, oh yeah, sorry mate. No, I just did a bit of comedy.

Talking about your comedy, you've made the transition. So you're on tour at the moment, Jack? Yeah, mate, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so what's this tour called? Let's give everyone a plug. Skint. Skint, okay. And your kids will have seen this as well in their lifetime. Yeah, because me and Rob haven't got this with our kids because

we were, and I don't want to say it Jack, fucking national treasures by the time our kids were born. We were analogue though on the telly, analogue, analogue known. So you were doing video, you were just working as carpet fitter, was that right? Yes, yeah. Carpet fitter, doing funny videos in your van, out of work with your mates, blah, blah, blah. They gained more and more traction and then you was like, right, I've always wanted to do stand up. Let me try and do actual stand up as opposed to the funny videos. You still do the funny videos that are great. And then your stand up sort of took off. You've got signed by great management. You've got a great tour. You've got the materials going. Now you're off doing this big national tour where you're selling out Leicester Square Theater.

Your life's changed dramatically. And how long have you been going? When you're off doing this big national tour where you're selling out Leicester Square Theatre. Your life's changed dramatically and how long have you been going? When did you start doing those videos? Four years. But this is a bit of a misconception. You're really good. Oh, thanks mate. Most people are shit after four years, but you're great. Yeah, I don't want to like, you know, make this awkward, but you often see comics come through and you're like, oh, they're really good for like, I can imagine where they're

going to get to. But you're like a fully realized stand up. You are like a proper stand up already. And like you think like a stand up and you speak like a stand up and you are so good at it. It's slightly annoying to act. I don't love it. I was going to feel people are hoping I'm shit. I just feel it.

But also what I think is great for you as well, you're a carpet fitter, working class lad from South London, but you've got that sort of common touch and man of the people energy, but also you're incredibly astute and intelligent with your comedy where you're coming at it from about three or four different angles. You're not one route.

You're not like just, I'll just do this and say this. You've got loads of different angles to it. So when you come to your show, you can connect with you straight away because you're a normal guy, have a family and kids and you know, you've lived in the real world. But also you've got that extra level that you need where you're coming at it with really good comic ideas, which isn't always the case. Some people can just ride out on that. So it is brilliant. And it's amazing. Your tour's going so well. So well done, mate. Where are you next? Where's the next gig? I'm in Brighton. I've got

two nights in Brighton. Next two nights. And I'm in Swindon, Leeds. Yeah. But do you know what though? This is the little misconception. Like, cause the thing is I wanted to do standup. I went to start standup. I did like a little course, comedy course. And then what happened, the pandemic happens before I booked into the, you know,

that you do a showcase gig thing. What comedy course was this? The dual ed was one in Brighton. I was loving, um, Ramesh did that and Sean Walsh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a really good one. I just, all I had in my head was stand up. And only because it was the pandemic.

My mate said to me like, cause I used to send videos to my mates in like WhatsApp groups, just having a laugh. And he was like, put it on TikTok. And I didn't even have TikTok. And I just downloaded it and started doing it. It went straight away. It went boom. I was getting like...

That's mad, isn't it? Do you know what my theory is on that, Jack? So basically my theory is when you're working class, okay from South London to do anything in the performing arts space is proper head above the parapet. Who do you think you are you fucking wanker, right? So you don't want to do that Rob I didn't say that to you exactly So it takes a lot of time to get your confidence up to go against the grain So what you've really been doing is you've been going four years

But you spent probably the last five to 10 years thinking of all these jokes. Same as when Noel Gallagher came through, he'd had two albums written already. Do you know what I mean? He's just hadn't had the opportunity to do it. And then you've come through TikTok and live and you're smashing it. So, so it will stand up originally, but you use TikTok to sort of break through essentially. Because I think that's it. Like you two sit there saying you're analog. I've got the analog brain. I mean, I don't even know how to like edit videos, but it's not. And I think that's it. Like you two sit there saying you're analog. I've got the analog brain. I mean, I don't even know how to like edit videos, but it's not. And I think that's it. Like when I started, things started blowing up online, I was having fun doing it.

But for me, it's always been standup has been that, I mean, I grew up watching like Lee Evans VHSs. That's what I thought a comedian was. I think that young people doing TikToks now, they're purely about videos and generalizing. But like, it's not like I've gained a load of followers and I thought, oh, I might capitalize about videos and generalizing. But like, yeah, it's not like I've gained a load of followers and I thought, oh, I might capitalize on this and do a tour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted to do a tour, then it started blowing up. I proper care about a stand up. That's what it is.

Tell me about what it's been like for your kids then. So how old were they when you, so it was the pandemic, so you're someone who been like six or five or six when you started this. And what's it been like for them to watch you kind of, like when did you go professional? About two years ago. But I think for them, like they don't, I think they treat it a bit differently. The point at first, like they have people come up to them

in school and stuff. So and he like, is Jack Skipper your dad thing? But they sort of shrug it off. But then I think my son quite liked it. But I remember like, well, I was at this, I went to this little local festival at a park near me, like, you know, the only little like a fun fair festival. Yeah. And some, some woman, she was like a drunk woman, like kept coming to try and get a selfie bit much. And my little girl, she's just like proper staring, like cuddled onto me,

like staring her out. She didn't like it. Yeah. So it's a bit weird. So you have to try and explain that to them. But I did, I mean, I've early this year when I did the, oh, did the marathon, I dropped before I just, I've, early this year when I did the, oh, did the marathon, I dropped that in there. Quit your carpet fitting job, national tour, running marathons. Michael, put the time code 22 to 45 for cutting. I've got a relevant story to do that. And no, but basically when you go afterwards, like, and when you put in that little pen with like other people doing it, and then when my kids could come in and they were seeing me

with people off the telly sort of thing. For people that know, if you are, if you're doing the marathon and you're a celebrity, there's basically like a celebrity VIP section that you can go in to get ready to before you go, isn't it? Compared to the rest of the public. So who's in there? Talk me through some of the names in there, Skip. That's a random mix in it.

Joel was there, Joel Dobbett and the kids like watching Marsfinger and things like that. R who's in there? Talk me through some of the names in there, Skipper. That's a random mix in it. Joel was there, Joel Dobbett, and the kids like watching Mars Stinger and things like that. Ramesh was there. Chris Evans. Chris Evans. Gordon Ramsay. Ian Beale. Oh, Ian Beale. Here we go.

Someone's from the analog generation, aren't they? Out of all the people I've met, that was the biggest one I regret not getting a selfie with. Ian Beale would have been a good one. You'll get another chance. Don't worry about that that Skipper. Get in that pen next year. I still do like celebrity spot because obviously like you rub shoulders with big people nowadays, but like the other day I was in Gatwick airport, I saw Craig Fairbrass. Oh, he lives near me. Stan Sullivan from East End. I was like, oh yeah, where's he going? My Bayer?

I love the fact that you were excited about me seeing someone that lives probably about eight miles from your house at a hotel about airport, about 10 miles from your house. How have the kids found it though? Like, cause you're at the stage of your career now where me and Josh were quite lucky that the real, real hard graft that you're in now where you're blowing up, you're getting all these opportunities that happened to us before our kids come along. Where you can't say no to things. Whereas now we've got a little bit more grace to be able to go,

no, look, can we move that or do that? Well, you're at the point where everyone's going, oh, Jack Skipper, he's great. Let's get him on stuff. And you don't really want to say no because it's your first opportunity with people. How are you managing that? Because we know what it's like.

There's kids clubs, there's performances, there's football, there's dance clubs. How are you managing to capitalize on the career whilst keeping the kids and the family happy? I'll be honest, Rob, I'm still trying to work it out. It is hard, isn't it? It's tricky. I'm trying to like,

because it's that weird thing, because you have an internal battle within it, because I work so hard, and they're the reason I'm doing it. Like they're the whole reason I'm doing it. Do you know what I mean? I'm not getting too deep on it. Nah, I reckon 80% ego,

I reckon 80% ego. 50-50, innit? But where it would be like, because like, growing up, I didn't ever like, I said, I don't want you to get into it too much, but like, I never really like, had anything to like, fall back on. Like, if I had to just keep working hard, do you know what I mean? I didn't have time to like, come up for air and go, what do I actually want to do with my life? I just like, from the age of 16, like to keep grafting, keep grafting. I didn't even like, I had to live on my own, do you know what I mean? Do that sort of stuff. All I work hard for is for them, just to have a little bit of time on the side to go, right,

what do I want to do in my life? And I think that's why, because I know how it feels when you've just got a- Well at 16 straight on that treadmill go, right, okay, especially if you're living on your own, I've got to pay bills. Yeah. I've got to work. And then by then you're like, well, I haven't got any time to think about what I want to be or what I want to do because I need to get 800 quid out in for this month. And then we go again. And it's hard to find the space. It's the famous thing that working class parents tell you, they do the thing where they go, get yourself a trade, you'll always have something to fall back on.

What happens is you go and get a trade and you don't get a chance to fall back on it because it's just your life. You're falling in on it. Yeah. That's the reason I work hard for them. But they're not like, we're going on, I'll's like, that's the reason I work hard for them. But they're not like, we're going on, I get a little break from the tour in a couple of weeks.

So in July, we're going just like, just the three of us to Spain. We'll go, that'll be like, you know, phones away, work away, let me just, Oh nice. In the pool with the kids. And you're co-parented, aren't you? I don't know how much you wanna talk about it,

but you're co-parented, you're not with their mom at the moment. So it's like balancing that time with them around the tour, it must be difficult, you know, cause it's not always, I mean, you know, I don't know what the situation is like, but So it's like balancing that time with them around the tour. It must be difficult, you know, cause it's not always, I mean, you know, I don't know what the situation is like, but sometimes it's not always as easy as when you're together still trying to find the time.

Yeah, but we've got a good like co-parenting relationship. So it's like, we can be flexible. Cause there is, you know, there are, you know, well, you boys know, like, there's things that do come up last minute and then we split the weeks. And like, if it's one of my nights, I'm like, I've got to go and do this thing.

But I'll always like make up the time. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But also like, I know exactly what it's like though. So like, you know, you might split the week and if you've got a normal nine to five, you go, okay, well I'll pick them up Wednesday from school, have them through till Saturday, drop them back Sunday or whatever. But like when you're doing our job, you could get a phone call right this second. I mean, like we were talking earlier, Josh is doing the wheel tonight. You're on standby for the wheel between aren't you? So at any point someone could go, right, you've got to come and do the wheel and it'll be a good payer and you can't really go no, cause you're doing it for

them because you're all, if I do that, we can have another holiday or Christmas out. But I was worried that I'm sort of overdoing it with trying to like, try and over explain to them. You do know that I'm doing it because they're quite, they're quite chilled anyway. They are good kids. I know I would say that cause they're my kids, but like, they don't really kick up a stink about it. I mean, like,

they don't seem that bothered. They always try and overdo it. In their head, it probably won't be as, as long as you're not like consistently pulling out on their birthday because you're doing, you know, Russell Kane's tour support or whatever. But like, in their head, they're not adding up. My mum's done four days and my dad's only done three days this week, do you know what I mean? One bit of advice I'd say, which helped me out when they were younger, I'd said, for about two years, I just said no to working on a Sunday.

All right, Dan Walker. No, but apart from tour shows, there's not a lot of gigs. You're not doing club gigs. They're Thursday, Friday, Saturday. On Sunday, no one really does that much telly. There's not many telly opportunities on a Sunday. Most of it's during the week on Friday, Saturday. And in that way, if they know that there's an anchor point

that you go, I can do Sundays, and you sort of corner that off, at least for both you and them, there's that slight consistency. This is why Rob is now increasingly styling his hair like Jesus as well. It's still part of this transformation. That for me really helped because at least then I thought,

well, if I'm going to pick one day, that is a good day because I won't be getting emails either. No one's in the office. There's not much TV work on. There's not many, and even tour shows don't sell that well on a Sunday or if they do, they're a bit low energy. So if you can sort of try and use that to protect yourself, that does help.

And use it, come to one of Rob's meetings and you're just going to chat about the meaning of life. Right? There's no pressure. It's so hard and I'm really empathised with Jack. I feel like Jack's going through what I went through about eight, ten years ago. Do you know who had empathy, Rob? Our Lord Jesus Christ, I love him. He did. Just look, Jack, bring the kids to my house every Sunday. There's a few people that meet up. You'll have to pay me a hundred grand a year, but that will cover your spirit and soul. We walk out of the woods

you're more like a creepy leader my girls bought a necklace from spain that they're making me wear and it's like a little crystal oh here it is oh no oh rob welcome i'm the new cult leader you're six months away from being baptized in the tems by Bear Grylls, aren't you? We're in a tunic. Look man, just the MSM is just bullshit and I don't think time where you speak to internet people like real truce. And just on this subject, obviously just at any point just say, nah, what was it like establishing a healthy kind of co-parenting situation? Because I've, it seems like you're in a really good place with her and when I've spoken to you about it, it seems like you've got a really good relationship. Was that a tough journey?

Yeah, it can be tough, but it's just a type of relationship, isn't it? And any relationship is like that, isn't it? It's just about learning how to deal with it. But yeah, we're at a point now where it is like, it's much more, you're both parents, aren't you? You're both trying to raise the kid, they come first, isn't it? So it's like- So I thought you were asking us then, I was like, yeah, fuck it.

Come and chat, you don't have to do much research. Would there be any advice you'd give to anyone that like is trying to manage that in the early stages of that, that you sort of learned from yourself? I'd say it's obvious, isn't it? It's a bit cliche, but just kids come first, isn't it? That's all that matters.

You've just got to make sure that, you know, and if you've got any of your own personal way you're feeling, right, just all you got to do is look at the kids and ask, are they happy? And if that's, if they look, you know, anything new personal you're going on or any little like problem or anything you're niggling at you, just look at the kid and go, if they look happy, then I ain't got much to worry about. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you could, cause you could, cause you could, just look at the kid and go, if they look happy, then I ain't got much to worry about. Because they could be saying, giving you the hump and you realise, ah, it's just a personal thing about me. I mean, it's not. Well, if it's your time to have them, but the mum's having a fun party thing that happens

to fall on that day and they go, oh, dad, can we stay and have this barbecue? Because it's a family thing. Part of you goes, well, it's my day. I want to be with... But then if they're buzzing for it, then it's almost like you've got to go, okay, yeah, no, you know, and, and park your own feelings. I'll give you a good example, right? So like, like, so they went on a holiday, like without me, they went on holiday half term to like abroad. And I had that little feeling where you do get a little bit, oh, I wish I was there with them. I mean, and I got a little bit inside myself and all that. But I've turned around to look at myself. So on the day they was going on holiday, I had them for the morning. So I thought instead of moping around going,

I took my boy to get his hair cut, I took my girl to get her nails done. Oh, that's lovely. Got excited for him. And I felt bad. Do you know what I mean? I felt bad. Rather than going, just get around and going, you're going to miss me. You might as well get on their level, get excited for them and then you'll feel better for it, you know? That's great. It's brilliant advice. It's a really healthy way of looking at it.

Yeah. And do you find, what's it like when you like, so they've gone away for a week. That must be quite surreal because- Josh, you get it at the point that he's going to get more free time on his own that you really want. Is that what you're- I'm not saying that. The jealousy Josh has got for co-parents and having extra spare time is insane.

We give you guys a lot of pity, but I'm saying the best of both worlds. No, I mean, do you know what though? Thankfully I was busy. I was like, when I was... I had a tour date and then I was in Kilkenny for a comedy festival. Are you still just loving the... Because in my head, the thought of going to Kilkenny, I would rather fucking die than go to Kilkenny for a comedy festival. Are you still at that stage where everything's really exciting? Nah. It's...

No, do you know what? It's just started to pivot now where it's like, I've realized last week, right? Cause you know, the fun of staying in hotels has gone now. I used to be like, even if I was feeling like rough or whatever, I'd get up for the breakfast. I'm having a breakfast. Now I'm like, fuck the breakfast. I don't give a shit now. I just, it's like that.

I'd like, cause if I had, if I could, I'd just be with the kids. You know what I mean? Yeah. Good news is I'm 15 years in your, your four years in, and this year I only spent 112 nights in hotel rooms. So, you know, as it progresses. Rob is having an affair to be fair. Absolutely.

Yeah. But I, I, I, I am still like having fun with like, like, you know, cause like this is my first tour., so the shows and people coming out, that's still overwhelming. As you say, you did them shows in Leicester Square. It's mad when you're on the wedding, you're looking at people going out for a night out, dressed up, they've got a baby set, they're going out and you're thinking, fuck, I'm the night out.

Like, they're going to see me, that's mental. That's a mad feeling. But it's, do you know what I also, what I'm loving though, this is the, like with the tour. Cause obviously I have like a lot of things I do is online, right? But this is like, you're seeing your audience, you're working out who they are. And it was wicked that you don't, cause you don't obviously don't get to choose your audience, do you? But what's wicked, like they're all coming out and the sort of, they're all different ages, backgrounds. But the main thing is that just people are coming out for a laugh, which is like, I think it's important for comedy, isn't it? Some people don't think so.

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a competition? Yeah, I don't, again, I don't know what's going on there. I'm just there being supportive. Like, yeah. Can you watch or is it a drop off and go? No, the training. So she does like two hours on a Monday. I'll drop her off at half four, pick her up at half six. It's like two hours. Jesus. Blimey.

But then you go to the competitions and the thing with the competitions is that's pretty much like a day event. And my daughter's routine is about four minutes long. They love doing that. Dragging you all in for a fucking admission fee to watch a lot of other kids jump about you don't give a fuck about. Then you're just a bloke there watching other little girls dancing. It's like, there's a weird... Yeah, because if you don't know them, I feel like you should leave. You're related to these children.

No, we'll get the fuck out of the hall, you pervert. Exactly. Exactly what it's like. Just sitting watching other children cheerlead. Yeah. But no, but yeah, so I take her along to like the, I did one, I did one last, oh, last Saturday, or Saturday before I took her to one, it was at her competition and I walked in and get to go and collect the bands and then cue

up and go in like the tickets to get in. And I walked in and was like, where do I collect the things from? And she went, oh, just that desk over there. Walked up to the front desk, collected the band. I said, oh, do I just stand in this queue here now? She goes, no, that's the queue for the bands. I just pushed all the way. It was just like half an hour queue.

And I just see all the mums going, oh, he's got a few followers on TikTok. Now he thinks he can fuck him. And then I even said to, I said to one of the moms, I said, I thought, I went, oh, I think I've just, I think I've just pushed in. She went, yeah, you have. I was like, oh fuck. I was like, oh god. Public enemy number one. So I just went, went and hid. So, oh, my question on that, that came up there is that your son's 10, your daughter's nine. What's, what's the, what's the, what's the age difference there? That's quite a close one. It's quite a close one, but my boy is 11 on Sunday. It's about 18 months.

Oh, so how was that back in the day? The 18 month and a baby, that must have been intense. It was intense, but I think sometimes if you have them that close together, it's like, because they all act like twins really. Do you know what I mean? And that sort of that. And it's, I don't know, because I've got no reference to doing it any other way really. What's the distance with yours Rob? Two and a half years. Two years. Bang on two years. But yeah, it was fun. It was basically, as soon as the youngest one could like waddle around, they would play together. But that bit when you

had a baby and the other little one crawling around, running about, that was hard. Rob, do your kids fight now? Do they fight? They don't really fight. They get on really well. They occasionally argue. And what more often happens is the older one will try and out-intelligence the younger one by saying something to get her in trouble. And then she'll like kick back and say something else to her. And then they'll come back and she said this, she said this, but they don't actually physically fight. But it's like Trump and Musk, isn't it? Yeah, it's more like Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

They have a bit of that, but they're actually quite good. So we try and do separate stuff with them. So my daughter was at a party at the weekend. So I took my other daughter to the park. Because I think sometimes when they're, I don't know, do you have this? Yeah, it was her birthday. But I think sometimes when they're too close and they act like twins, they don't get enough one on one time because you just couple them together and go, right, you two are on. So sometimes you don't have

direct chat with them. That is one of the hard thing about single parent or co-parenting. I think as well with a son and daughter, cause like on your own going, right, what can we all do together that we're all going to enjoy? And they are quite different. I'd go like over the park, my boy love his football with him, but my little girl wants to go on the seesaw. It's that thing you've got to try and find that balance. Will Barron Is there anything that they both like that you end up doing? Cinema maybe? Jason Vale Cinema, things like that. Like, oh, go down the arcade. Or just go for walks or do things like that. Like, we borrow my dad's dog. Like,

I go do dog walks and that sort of stuff. I ain't giving a dog no way. We can just borrow one. They do this thing though, if they're together, they say they're together in a room. They do this thing where they get like excited, excited, excited. It gets to a point, you know, you can feel it like bubbling over, but you, yeah, it's going to kick off in a minute because it goes, you know what I mean? It leaves you. The excitement starts going, you're like, fuck it. You have to go in there. It's like, you have to be like a nightclub bouncer before it kicks off. You know what I mean? Just be like, you've had enough. Because when it does, I've had it before when it happened because they've had like, not regularly,

but like, especially like first thing in the morning, getting ready for school, and they've had like full on fight, like kicks. You've got to go in there and like, drag them off each other. Like it's proper kicking off. And then like the weird thing happens though, a couple minutes later, they're like best mates. And I'm traumatized. Like, because I had to break up this fight at like seven o'clock in the morning. And I'm like, I can never understand how children recover so quickly. I know it's mad, right? Because if me and Rob had a blazing row, like that would be there forever.

Yeah, we've never had a row. We've never had one row. I've just got to literally don't care either way, do we? He's actually worrying, like, is it a lack of ambitional care or will that like, I've never argued, it's like, all right then. If we had like, if we fronted up to each other, that would never we wouldn't go, oh, that was a bit of fun. And then immediately straight on. Or if I cried in front of Rob, yeah, that would be huge. But if you cry as a kid in front of another kid,

straight away the moment you're fine, everyone forgets about it. Yeah, just playing Roblox together. Yeah, you're back in the game. It's alright, just whatever man. That was good, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. Touch gloves, it's fine. So how long are you going away on holiday for Jack?

When you go on holiday, is it just you with the two kids, or is anyone else going? Any family or friends? Just me and the two kids, yeah. I've never done it before actually. Never done it before. So I'd be like, you because even then, because then you'd be like, I don't know about you, but like when you're on holiday with them, do they go off and make holiday friends or do they play together or do they go to the kids club? But like, yeah, I suppose it's the first time to find out. No, I take it. I've been abroad with them before, but we just took me and my mom still taking down the down the caravan. So they, uh, and they loved that.

That's just like, yeah. It's kind of like 1970s. Feral kid. That's a bit on brand for you. Isn't it? Even for you, that's a bit on brand. Yeah. Even I rolled in my eyes.

Come on, mate. We get it. My PR's always say that. You know, it's an apple and pear shit. You're gonna squeeze that in as well, are you? Talk to me about taking him down the caravan there, because I'll be honest, I've never been taken down the caravan. You've never been to a caravan party?

It's great fun. No, I've been to, I've been in a caravan, but what I mean is I've never, I don't think I've been on a caravan. We used to go camping. So that's a kind of... Ah, right. Because I'm, we're going to a caravan, not to get on brand with you, Jabba. We're taking the girls to a static caravan park in the summer.

But it sounds like down so there's two ways we're going to be going to on a car we're going on a caravan holiday. What was it was what we're doing, but the way Jack went going down the caravan implies it's a family owned caravan, either your mum's or someone's and there's other family members and friends have got caravans down there. Well, it used to be so I think that's why I use that terminology. So yeah, my auntie and my nan, they used to have caravan down Sheppey. We take them down the caravan means it's caravans you own. But to a caravan park is on a day. But the thing is though, like this is the thing, because you can spend loads of money taking them

wherever you want, but the thing is they do enjoy it just as much. They love it. Bikes just go, they go feral, like seventies kids for the weekend. We went every year, I didn't go on Hollandaid Broad as a kid, not to steal your shtick Jack, but... Let's all get our tiny violins out. No, but we'd go camping in South Wales every year, and I don't believe that if we'd flown to anywhere, I'd have enjoyed it more. Not as a kid.

It was the best thing I ever did. And it was the highlight of my year. And as a kid, you aren't thinking, fucking hell, I wish they had an excellent kids club. And I wish they had six different restaurants. Or a warm pool without baroukas in it. You can do the best of both worlds. If you want to get involved in this, there's things that you can go through like the five a side pitch or there's little things, or the swimming pool.

But then in the evenings, if you just want to chill out and do whatever you want. Arcade, they just keep coming back, you give them a quid, they go run off, get a change. I fucking love the arcade so much. The perfect caravan holiday is there's a clubhouse, right? There's got an outside eating area and drinking area. We can sit there and then in front of that area, it needs to be your caravan in view, the play area in view and the bit of grass in view. And that way you've got a trifecta of you don't have to move for a week, where you can

sit there and have a drink and they're either, and they go, can I go and get that from the caravan? Yes, you can, because I can see you going in and out. Can I go over there? Yep, yep, yep, and then it's done. It's exactly what I had Cornwall last year. Posh, I was there. I could see the baseball field. I could see the caravan, I could see the bar.

I could see the playground, I was there, do you know what I mean? And so where are you going on, are you going on another caravan one? No, no, I'm going to Spain. Even when I booked it though, I booked the one, I just looked at the pictures and I picked the one where like the swimming pool's got all the slides in it. The one that looks the most fun. I just thought I'd go for that one.

Yeah, oh, brilliant. Have a great time. Yeah, it's going to be well good. They must be buzzing. Yeah, they're probably looking forward to it. I can't wait as well. How are you feeling about the flight? Oh, mate, I'll be fine.

At their age? I'll be fine. You must be a piece of piss. No, I'll tell you for why. Because their mum is Australian. So when they were younger, we went, we've done a few trips to Australia. And I, so my boy was about two. And I flew home on my own from Australia with him. On my own, right? And that that was what an error, right? What I did. He fell asleep as soon as we got on the flight. So I thought, oh, a bit of me time, I'm going to chill out and watch a film. So by the time I was knackered and I needed my sleep, he was up. And so by the time I was knackered and I needed my sleep, he was up. Like that was the, I remember, I'm still remember this woman, whoever you are, if you're, if

you're out there, she was there with her two kids who are about my age, my kids age now, about nine and 10. And she just looked at me and she went, give him here. And her kids just played with him and I just had like an hour just to just shut my eyes and just get,. Oh my God. What a woman. Because he was, he was on my lap. Was he on your lap or was he on his own seat?

He was on my lap. Oh my God. On the second flight when I found our seat. Do you know, the flight where it's the four in the middle. Yeah. And I was between someone with like a mask on, this was before COVID, someone who was like paranoid about germs. Yeah.

And then like between one and a business man on his laptop. And you were in the middle of the boat. Oh my God. My mom picked me up from Gatwick. I was like, I was a breakdown. I had like a breakdown. That was the hardest.

So, taking two of them for two hours to Spain is piece of piss. Yeah. This side. So was you having to chase the two year old up and down the plane and go and hang around by the stewards and sure. That's all he wanted to do. It's all he just wanted to just be up for 12 hours. Yeah. For 12 hours when I slept. I can't believe what idiot I watched like Tom Hardy film where the gin and tonic. This is all right. This is a piece of business. He was sparking. I was like, I've got this name all over my head. He'll probably sleep for 24 hours.

Isn't he fine? Jesus Christ. What an error. Jack, it's been a joy to speak to you. Thanks for having me. You are genuinely brilliant and I'm so pleased. It's all going so well. We normally ask a question about the other parent in the in the in the situation.

But I don't know if you want to do that with your your ex. Well, basically, the question is, what's the thing that she does as a parent that's amazing and you go, oh, she's so brilliant. I'm so lucky to co-parent with her. And then is there anything that she does that wind up a little bit? But you don't want to say in case it kicks off? I think I'll just answer the first one, I think, just for the... A decision.

Because we're in a good place now, so let's fucking... Let's go with the first one then. Yeah, no, do you know what I said? No, she's very chilled out and we can talk things through and there's an understanding there and I think that's you know, and anyway, I say anyone who's out there going for a similar thing. If you if you if you take your time and work hard, you'll get there, but just put the kids first and just make sure they're happy and you know, it can be. Perfect, Jack, thank you. I know, thank you. It's a joy to have you on and I thought you'd been on anyway, so it doesn't really make any difference to my life, but it's good to get it done. And it's called Skint, you're taught? Skint, yeah. It's all over the country.

It's all over the country. Sign up to the mailing list. Is it sold out? Yeah, so sign up to the mailing list. It's all sold out? Yeah, well there's a few left. And then online you're just Jack Skipper everywhere, yeah? Yeah, that's it, yeah.

Good luck, mate. See you later. Cheers, boys. Cheers. Bye bye. Cheers, Jack. Jack Skipper everywhere yeah? Yeah that's it yeah. Good luck mate. See you later. Cheers boys cheers. Bye bye. Cheers Jack. Jack Skipper. Jack Skipper sorry Rob I interrupted you.

That's it Josh don't look let's not have fucking fallen out about it. I'm sick of you sat there fucking interrupting me with your fucking jacket on and glasses. I mean I literally I'm trying to invent something to be annoyed by. You specky prick. You specky prick because I've got spectacles on myself. He's brilliant, Jack. Oh, he's such a nice bloke, as well. Yeah, he's a lovely guy.

Really, really good dad. Also really funny online. And like you say, I thought, oh, he might be one of these guys that's got funny videos, but just stand up and funny videos. Never, doesn't always work. Naming no names, naming no names. Now it makes sense that he's always wanting to be a stand up.

The pandemic stopped him and he's brilliant. He's really good. He's a bit of a... Because he's like an everyman, normal geezer type bloke, but also he has very outlandish jokes and ideas. A bit Sherlock-ish. Great observations. Great observations.

He's excellent. So go and see him when you can. And also, if you need your carpet done, I'm sure you can still do a couple. He can still lay a fucking carpet. Josh, I'll see you next week. We'll see you. I'll see you on Tuesday, Rob. Bye. Bye.