Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S10 EP6: Stacey Dooley

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener,

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Nice one. Nice one. Say bye bye. Bye bye. Bye bye from Arabella. I don't want to say bye bye. Bye bye. There we go. She's cute.

The mum went pure mummo. That was pure mummo. Good bubba. That was Clara, the mum. This is our 23 month old daughter Arabella and we live in Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire. Sorry about the OTT parenting voice. She's aware of it, Ro. Oh no, we all do it.

There's no shade there. But as you can see, we have a little chatterbox on our hands. She's been talking in full sentences for the last six months, which you probably can imagine is a blessing and a curse. I absolutely love the podcast. Looked forward to my alone time during the week to catch up.

Keep doing what you're doing. Lots of love from Hebden Bridge. How are you, Josh? I'm very good. I'm fine. We've got lots to discuss, as ever, apparently. You've promised us a story about your hamster update. Hamster.

Oh, yeah, no. Mate, I had a lovely weekend. Go on. Huge weekend. I'm trying to remember it all, actually. Saturday, Lou was going to the theater in the evening to watch Rami Malek. Is it Rami? R to watch Rami Malek.

Is it Rami? Rami Malek? Rami. In the one about the Greek geezer that shags his mum. Oedipus. Yeah. I was going to say Shirley Valentine, but I've got that all wrong. So yeah, she went and saw that. You didn't want to go with her?

The only thing that could have tempted me was a 7.30pm star, hour and a half straight, through no interval. Oh my word. Maybe I could incorporate that into my 258 tour. You're in Oaxaca by 9.m. Star hour and a half straight through no interval Oh my word that maybe I could incorporate that into my 258 so you're in what hacker by 905 Do much my 258 or our no break? Yeah, I reckon the theater Well, I was gonna say the theater is gonna get a not would want a break But then the theater is getting three shows in a day. Oh, I'm the other theater's golden goose, right weekend Let's talk to weekend. So Lou went and saw that. So she was going out and even she took the dog for a walk. I took the girls to their clubs, then took them to lunch. We had some lunch at the CAF. Then we went to the opticians because they needed some new

glasses, because they broke their glasses. So funny, my daughter would come back with glasses. They were the most broke. They were if you were doing a comedy sketch about broken glass, did you go now that's too much? No glasses. Basically they were still on her nose, but both arms had gone outside ways and there was still bad. She had fallen off her face and then a friend trod on him by accident. So he went and got some of them done. I got my sunglasses tightened up. We did that.

Then I tried to get some Indian rupees cause I'm off to India. Can't do it. Restricted currency. Can only get your rupees in India. Yeah. So yeah, so I needed rupees because everything in India is cash. It's hard to pay with card. So normally if I'm in America, I'll just use my cards and I don't really get local currency out. So I was doing that. Then they saw a guy on Heelys and went, can we get Heelys? Can we get Heelys? I just thought,

you know what, fuck it. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck it. Some Heelys. They love the shoes with the little roller skates on the hill. Yeah. Roller skates on the hill. And I just saw getting a Heely about getting a skewer. We went into a sports shop and they were like, they were reduced to like 25 quid and I thought, you know what, it's a lovely day today. We're gonna go in the garden this afternoon. Let's get the heelies going the garden. Gotten these heelies. They are so... Can you do them on grass?

Dangerous. No, they are deadly. It is. Imagine an inline skate, but only half your foot. Yeah. And surely by doing them, you're putting your weight backwards. So you automatically lean like that? You're automatically leaning back. Well, we've rolled it with just normal roller skates. Obviously, there's four so you're already sort of fairly safe. They were

like, how do I do these? I was like, I don't know. I don't know. So then I was just pulling them along with this and they're flying all over the place scratching their knees with their helmets on. So I was doing Heelys, which is yeah, if anyone knows how to do Heelys, I mean, I'll probably have to watch a YouTube thing, but they're getting better at them. So we did Heelys and then we went to hamster shop. The pet shop. I thought now the last time we talked about this, it was a birthday present in December

or November or whenever it is. So and if you're going to put a deposit down on a hamster, a whole year of its life you're losing, it's only going to live a few years. So basically, we tried to put it off and go, yeah, well, she's probably going to forget about it. She has not forgot about it. It doesn't seem like it worked in the way that you last reported. So we thought, get it for your birthday, thinking she'd forget and move on like she has with goats and leopard gecko, right? She has not.

She, I'd say, researches hamsters every day, whenever she's allowed on an iPad or a Chromebook. To the point she's actually got a notebook where she's writing it down. So when she's out and about, she's got it with her so she can tell people about it. Size of cage, food they eat, don't put them together, right. So she was like, I was like, right, why don't we bring this forward? And I went, but how can we bring this forward rather than just getting something earlier? So what we said is she can have a hamster

when she's got enough money to buy a hamster. How much is a hamster? So these hamsters were getting a 35 pounds. Right. I'd say if you go to a local pet shop and speak to them, they'll either do it or know someone that can get hamsters that are bred within the shop, not bred for mass market. Because if they're bred for the mass market, what happens is they don't have

much space in their living conditions and they're not held. So we've done some research and found this place where they're super, super friendly and tame and also bigger because they are fed better, they're looked after better. And so every hamster is picked up and held and played with and not just played with, but like they have to check it over to see if it's had enough milk and look. So they used to being held from a very young age, which means they're very confident, happy and healthy. And you're getting a healthier, happier hamster in a much more ethical, moral way. But you know, I think the money's well spent.

So about 35 quid, I think for the hamster, she's put a deposit down on it, and then she's got to save up for the cage and all the food. So she needs probably about 150, 100 quid, maybe, to get all the stuff. So she's doing chores. So she's got the tooth fairy coming when her tooth fills out. She needs a lot of fucking teeth to get her 115 quid. She's only seven. She's been unloading the dishwasher

She's been hoovering. I even said for a laugh. She can do the dog poo in the garden She wants she was out there picking up dog shit. Oh my god, and I was like she was struggling I went you know, I don't do the dog shit. Yeah. Yeah, it's only for that So she's been doing all the chores So we went to look at the hamsters could you have to put your name down on a waiting list. Oh my god. What is it? Because they're quite sought after.

Fucking driving tests. Boston bro. Oh no, they're only available when they don't force them to mate. So they're only ready when they're ready. You go on a waiting list. She said she can guest the mate around six weeks, which is perfect for us. Falls over Easter holidays. So it gives us something to look forward to.

And it gives time for my daughter to save the money. But Josh, because these hamsters are sort of raised in a much more ethical way, they are the biggest fucking hamsters I've ever seen. I'll try to afford you the stuff. They are absolute whoppers because the size of that hamster looks like a guinea pig. Fucking Nora. See it? Yeah.

And so that's not the one she's getting. No. So that is one of the mums. Good new glasses She'll be care. Thank you. She'll be getting one of those babies that are in there when they're happy healthy and ready to be moved on in six weeks Oh, that is nice So I would say I was right quite naive to hamsters because I was the traditional Get this sort of more mass market bred one

But actually if you do a bit of research you can pay a little bit more But not only are you getting a more ethical hamster, you're getting one that your children will be able to enjoy. But also from pure bang for your buck money, Rob, if you just want to take it as an economics decision, you're probably getting more years. Well, they actually do live longer. They live more three years than they do two years. Oh, Rob, the passing of time. Okay, here we go. This has gone deep early. Oh, God, passing of time. Okay here we go. This is

going deep. Oh god I hate it. The other night I got back. Do not go and see Bridget Jones or watch Paradise. Not even death but like the thought of my kids growing up is really tough. So what's tough about it? I was talking to someone who's got teenagers who are, you know, who are teenagers. Let's put it that way. Right. Not interested as they were. Yeah. And then I was talking to someone on Saturday about it as well because it was playing on

my mind. And he's got a teenager who's a teenager. And I was like, fucking hell. Fucking hell. This is, I'm going to really struggle with it. I can deal with the not interested because I go, that is what it is. And they come back around, when they're older,

they'll come back around. Yeah, and I can deal with that. It's the worry about them being places or being online and certain, I'm not looking forward to that at all. Yeah, but that's because what you're worrying about is that you're worried about a situation in the future that doesn't exist with a child that you know now.

I know, no. So, but your daughter will be- No, yeah, I know, I was just talking to someone who's kid and I thought, fuck, ignore her. What they're up to? Yeah. So, what I'd say is that, yeah, but that's their child, but your daughter will be old enough and intelligent enough and sort of wise enough to make the right decisions when she is doing that at that age.

I know, I know. It's still gonna be difficult though, isn't it? So like the thought of my daughter going to this two night away trip thing. Yeah. Was panicking me. But then I was like, no, I'm not actually I'm panicking because of the narrative of all you should worry. But what if your daughter is 15? This isn't what's happening. But, you know, and goes to goes to an all night rave. Well, I always look at future Rob will be able to deal with that situation when it happens.

But that's the only way I can cope with it. Because at the moment, if I said that the thought because I can't imagine my seven year old child at 15 at that rave doing those things, right? It's incomprehensible to me. So it's no point thinking about it because that child doesn't exist yet. Yeah, that's the right way to approach it, but it's impossible not to fall into it. Absolutely. But that's the challenge, isn't it?

Yeah. And same way as I was really nervous about doing a tour show the other day, because I hadn't done it for a few weeks. I know that as soon as I step on stage and start talking, the show comes back to me and it's better for it because I'm refreshed and I'm not bored of it. And I'm not honestly reading out a monologue. I have my bullet point ideas of jokes.

And then when I'm there, I adapt it and deliver it to whatever that room needs. So I just have to shut my brain off and go, I could think about this all day and night until the gig. None of it will help, but I know about this all day and night until the gig. None of it will help, but I know future Rob will be able to deal with that. So let's not worry about it.

Cause all I need is now Rob. Stacy Dooley, welcome to the podcast. Thank you ever so much. Apologies for me and Josh. Josh's laptop completely shut down and went missing. You came on, you've got your coffee, you're ready to go, you've sorted childcare, your two-year-old daughter's downstairs with the mum.

Then we started chatting, then my builder rang because I've still got a leak coming through the ceiling and we're all over the place. They're gonna cut holes in the walls and the roof, but it's not about us today, Stacey, it's about you. So sorry for the delay. Can I say, I am so invested. Listen, I'm doing the house up.

I bought this really beautiful house, but it's so old. It's on its last legs. So this is actually interesting chat for me. Oh, Stacey, let me tell you why my laptop died then. No, please do, because that sounds really interesting as well. So we're having our house done up. Oh, still, I thought yours is done. Well, we're just doing like the little things, Rob.

Josh has had a bloke at his house called Adrian for about two years. Stacey. Yeah, he's great. If you need someone Stacey. Well, if I'm up north now, aren't I? But listen to this, if you want to put a light on the wall, you have to take the floorboards up. That's what I've learned.

I had this painter called Neil. He was really rock and roll. I loved him. I sort of fell slightly in love with him and he would sort of disappear on the Thursday and then reappear on the Tuesday. I think he just had like some really hedonistic sort of long, stretched love with him. And he sort of disappeared on the Thursday and then reappear on the Tuesday. I think he'd just had like some really hedonistic sort of long, stretched out weekend,

but I didn't have it in me to sort of have the arm. It is hard, isn't it? Cause if someone's done the job that you don't want to get someone else in to do the job because they always just go, this is rubbish. I've got to redo it all. So you're better off waiting for Neil to come back. Correct. Or if you're Josh,

just lock Adrian in the basement. So it wasn't Adrian this morning. So we're having our, just lock Adrienne in the basement. So it wasn't Adrienne this morning. So we're having our, just the last, we had the carpet put on the stairs in the hallway that needs staining because it's wood. So Rose was like, the guy's going to stain the floors Monday morning. Fine.

I'm upstairs. He's got to do my office. I said, just don't do that on Monday. That's fine. Quarter past nine this morning. I'm like, what the fuck is that sound? And he's got basically an industrial sander. Yeah, of course you can't sand it. You can't stain without sand.

I hadn't thought about it, Rob. So I'm like, what the fuck am I gonna do? I'm like, how long is this gonna take? He's like all morning. So I've got to get out of the house. So I've run to my agent's office doing school drop off on the way. And then I've run to my agent's office doing school drop off on the way. And then I've grabbed my laptop because my laptop, I never use my laptop. So when I plug it in, it's on one percent charge. It's charging, but it hasn't got enough to keep going throughout the Zoom call. Oh, even with the plug in, even with the plug in.

Oh, that's no battery, is it? What this illustrates is we all have our crosses to bear, guys. Exactly. Poor us. Well, comedy's changed. Back in the day, our agents wouldn't have their acts run into their office needing a laptop charger to do a podcast about parenting because their floors are getting stained. They'd have been out all night. We'd have been like, you're a builder, mate. Nil.

Crazy Nil. Anyway, Stacey, sorry, apologies for the weird start, but you've got one daughter called Minnie who's two, correct? That's right, that's exactly right. Nailed it. Yeah, she dance dance with my mum, she's got a peach yogurt, she's actually on good form this morning.

You know when they wake up and you think, oh, what way are we gonna go? Yeah. She's a delight, she's a delight this morning. So yeah, you have to celebrate the small wins. Does your mum help a lot then? You were saying that like, you've loved seeing your mum coming round now, the baby. Yeah, no she's really hands-on actually. She wasn't on the scene and I totally

appreciate this isn't always the way for many people but if she wasn't on the scene I think I'd really struggle work-wise. I don't think I'd be able to work actually. Have you back to where your mum lives? Yeah, so my mum's from Liverpool. She lives about an hour away now so we're in North West and I love it and I've sort of turned into that southerner every time I get back to Houston. I think, oh, too busy. These Southerners, you don't miss it, do you? I'm all like that. I'm really annoying.

But I'm so happy up here. But yeah, we made the move. And was that because of your mum? I mean, yeah, kind of a mixture of reasons, but primarily I think, yeah, she's our nanny. And I wanted the baby close to her nan and it's a lovely relationship to nurture. So yeah, the pair of them thickest thieves. I don't really exist when my mum's around. Nanny, nanny, nanny. Really? Oh, that's good, isn't it? Yeah. And I was really tight with my mum's mum, Crazy Hayes, they called her Hayes. She was a

publican and she had pubss so we would live above the pub oh amazing so you lived with her above the pub yeah sort of back and forth but i have really beautiful memories of that relationship so yeah i was saying to rob i spent my 20th dodging my mom wasn't asked didn't want to even sort of back up to with her and now i'm like she doesn't pick up the phone on the hour every hour I'm outraged. Oh really? And so has your relationship with your mum really like strengthened through this? Yeah, no I think you're right Josh it's like it has completely changed and again it's so hard isn't it to talk about like parenthood and not fall into like cliches but actually when you become

a mum there's a sudden realization of all the shit you must have put them through. Yeah. And the kind of unwavering, unconditional love. It's sort of dingy. Yeah. So yeah, thank God for Di. Yeah.

Yeah. Who's hoping she's got at least another 30 years? That's the nicest thing you can say. How old is Di? If you've got older parents, it does, you know. 63, 64. So that's solid. Yeah it's 20, 30 years. Yeah. So my dad's 81 now. They still look after the kids but sometimes

I'm like, are we going to drive them down there? I'm like yeah you're 81 mate, you don't need to drive them anywhere. No just hide the car keys. You'll be alright. Why don't you stay in the house, you're 81. Stay in the house. There's no way to take my children on the motorway. Stay in the house, you're 81. Can I hear more about Crazy Hayes? How are you spelling Crazy Hayes? H-A-Z? I guess. H-A-Z-E. I suppose you've never written it down though.

No. No, I've never written it down. It's absolutely true. Crazy Hayes. So Hazel, she was called. She was just golden actually. Just a real scream. So as you would imagine, really sort of outlandish, sort of outrageous landlady. They're like that, aren't they? Yeah, yeah.

Everything's a performance. I just remember like, what went out on 38 next month? I remember sort of being five, six, seven years old, doing the fridges, putting the Oranginas the right way round. Amazing. I mean, I was eating pork scratchings at five. That's a serious choking hazard and I'm probably gonna... That is a nightmare. My arteries, god knows what state they're in now, but just lock-ins, I remember lock-ins until you know it's normal. Oh amazing. When you talk about like the parents and their unwavering love, do you also now, you parent yourself, think yeah that was

a great time but I probably wouldn't let my five- old eat pork scratchings and do a stop take. Listen, my mum and my nan always had a cig on the go. So I mean my arteries were a mess, my lungs are probably a mess, like always had a ciggy on the go. I ate pork scratchings and do you remember them pies from the fish and chip shop? Pukka pies. Pukka pies. Pukka pies? Pukka pies, yeah. That was my diet. Half and half, like half chips, half rice with gravy, all of that. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

That's carby, isn't it? Half chips, half rice at the chip shop. Yeah, half and half. Never heard of that. Surely it's the Chinese, isn't it? If it's doing rice. Yeah, but that was my fish and chip shop. Ah.

Right. I've never heard of that. I think that might be a doody thing. Half and half. You must try actually. I think you'd really love it. Half rice with gravy. Is this Luton? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, you too, Josh. Luton, yeah. Oh, you too. Half and half. No. I never had half and half. But I think that's a bit more of a northern thing actually, the Chinese chippy than down south.

Maybe. Rob, you can't be calling Luton the north. When you're from the Kent borders, that's a bit more of a northern thing actually, the Chinese chippy than down south. Maybe. Rob, you can't be calling Luton the north. When you're from the Kent borders, it's a long way up. Because you're still there, aren't you? I was in Brockley for a while, Rob. We wouldn't have been miles away from each other. Yeah, so I lived in New Cross and Hither Green, but I'm a bit further out now, more Bromley ways, but you've gone far north now.

Exactly, yeah, yeah. And now I hate the whole of the south, remember? Of course. Well, look at it, if you're going to go north of the river, you've gone far north now. Exactly. And now I hate the whole of the South, remember? Of course. Well, look at it. If you're going to go north of the river, you might as well keep going. The best way. It just gets the further you go, the nicer it gets people-wise. It was always such a negotiation when I was in town, when I lived southeast London. It was such a negotiation trying to get the cabbie to take me across the river. Don't get me started. It's been the bane of my life. My dad's a black cab driver. I'm not going that way.

I'm not going that way. Oh, well, you are going that fucking way because you're a cab and I'm a passenger. You don't pick the destination or just drop me off. I need to pick me boy up from school. I think, so why is your light on? And then I would get on my high horse. Like, don't give me a hard time if I get in an Uber.

I know. What I used to do was, being sneaky, if I would stand on the side of the road that was going north and then when I get in, I'd go, Louis, they'll go, what? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, but you're going that way. No, I'm not. I'm just stood here. We're going that way. They refused to take me to Bromley from Victoria once because they said they can refuse it if it's over a certain amount of miles. And I Googled the miles in front of him and it was lower than the thing. And he went, but I'm not going that way. And I was like, you wanker. Then I think I was quite pissed and

was like, now she started talking about Uber. It's just so petty though, isn't it? Oh my God. Although I've got to say actually, they're sort of slightly more generous if you've got the buggy. They sort of take pity on you sort of wrestling the buggy and your baby's kicking off and your bag falls off your shoulder. No, I think they're great. I much prefer a black cab service than an Uber service,

but my problem with the black cab service is sometimes the service doesn't exist if they decide it doesn't exist. Which when it's pissing down with rain and you're waiting outside a pub, you think, well, what's the fucking point? You've got to wait there and hope a cab comes past with its light on and then also is happy to go south.

Beg it, yeah, just please. Anyway, it's good to know why you moved north. Did you consider moving to Hull? No, I've never considered moving to Hull. Where? Hull? Kevin's from Hull, right? Oh, right. Not miles away, it's from Grimsby.

Oh, it's from Grimsby, sorry, sorry. Oh, even worse, no offence, but yeah. Ha ha ha ha. His team is scumful. Christ. Yeah. No wonder he wanted the glitz and glamour of dance. I actually used Hull and it was worse, it turned out.

Grimsby and scumful were the answers. Yeah, love his art. Grimsby and scumful. Yeah, there you go. That's his team. We went to go and watch them the other day and yeah, it wasn't what I was expecting. Did you feel like you were doing a documentary? What were you expecting? When you went to see Scunthorpe play football?

I think I didn't realize. I'd only seen like premiership teams, so the whole thing felt much grander. So I couldn't believe how close you were. You could sort of see the expressions on their faces and you could hear what everyone was saying. It felt, yeah. And you were surprised by how small the ground was.

This is coming from someone that's hometown club is Luton. To get to the one of the stand, you have to walk through someone's terraced house. You have to walk through someone's garden. Yeah. I love that. I love that ground. It is brilliant. Is your daughter dancing yet?

No. So this is really interesting actually. It's sort really interesting actually. It's sort of interesting territory. When did Kev start? When he was four. When he was four. Kev was tiny when he started dancing.

So because his folks danced and they had a dance school. No way out. That's it. You're in Grimsby School of Dance. Grimsby School of Dance or something like that. I think it's like Clifton's Dance Academy or something, very highbrow. But he would be at the back of the class and of course inevitably just sort of started dancing.

Him and his sister, his sister was brilliant too. She was like, well champion. She was number one for a very long time in the ballroom world. Wow. Yeah. Kev sort of preferred the Latin. Anyway, Minnie, I love dancing and the baby, I've always got the radio on and the baby, I'll be swinging the baby around and I say, oh, let's I love dancing. And the baby, I've always got the radio on and the baby, I'll be swinging the baby around.

And I say, oh, let's take her dancing. I think he's sort of a bit kind of hesitant because it's such a relentless world, you know what I mean? I said she doesn't have to do it professionally. No, but at a young age, it's good for fitness and fun and stuff. Yeah, but she prefers football, Rob. So she goes football on a Saturday.

She'll get diddy kicks, she goes. Diddy kicks. And she's mad on it. She's so excited. Oh, that's nice. Oh, wow. Her dad took her last Saturday because I was working. You'll see the state of her.

She had these. It looks like she was going on some expedition. She had her big snow boots on that she wore in Finland. Yeah. White tights. He sent me a photo. I said, Kev, where's the trainers? Oh, she put them on. That's good. Let her express herself. All right. Okay. But she loves it. She loves coach Tom and coach Matthew. That's the thing,

though, considering both your jobs. It's like, it's quite extreme because you could like dance, but then also gone a huge deep dive about the motivations of the individual in the room when they just want to dance but you're like but really but what really let's get to the nub of this where's the truth here where are them leggings from oh no love for art doesn't stand a chance bless how is the work life balance going then because what's kev up to at the moment how much like are you splitting the child care because both your jobs are quite unpredictable really aren't they You could both get a phone call this afternoon, which could be a few weeks away work. Exactly right, Rob. So you'll know more than me. Our jobs are sort of so nomadic,

do you know what I mean? Like he's on tour with Chicago at the minute and he's, I think he's got another couple of months on that. And is he away full time then? If he's away for two months, he's away every day for two months. Well, it comes back on a Sunday. So is he away full time then? If he's away for two months, he's away every day for two months. Well, he comes back on a Sunday. So sometimes he can commute depending on the location. So he's left this morning for Oxford. So his dad in Oxford for the week, he'll come back Saturday night.

He drives, love his art. So he finishes at half 10, 11 o'clock. Then he'll get in the car and drive so he can wake up on Sunday. And what's his role in Chicago? He's Billy Flynn. He's Billy Flynn. So can he sing as well?

Yeah, he's good actually. Is he? Do you fancy him, Josh? Do I fancy him? It's a real catch. I never thought I'd fancy a ballroom dancer, but here we are. Yeah, yeah. He's not just Bob. He's not just any fucking ballroom dancer.

He is genuinely the ladies choice. Yeah, but Josh, but you're not talking about him like that, but he's not the 41 year old comedian, male heterosexual choice, but you're really gushing. They're all sort of handsome in their own way. What I liked about Kev was- He's a bit nerdy, isn't he? Exactly.

He's not the immediate choice. He looks like a computer programmer who's gone on one of those 12 week body transformations. Josh, you are absolutely on the money. You've hit the nail on the head. You look at Gorka, yeah he's handsome. They're all obviously handsome. Yeah. But there's something about Kev, he's sort of so nonchalant and a bit aloof. He's the nerd of the gang that you're so desperate for him to like you. He's been surrounded by beautiful women his whole life. He's not easily sort of impressed. So you have to sort of have a bit of chat like. Yeah that's like Rob. It's difficult with Rob. I feel like I've burst into a hen do with two women talking about their crushes.

I'm just sort of politely nodding along. What do you think of Aliash? He's got great shoulders. I don't know. I don't really watch Street. I wasn't asking you Rob. Sorry. Crazy handsome. He's like a statue. Actually, there's a really funny tweet that someone obviously unearthed when I tweeted sent a tweet 100 years ago, before I did the show. And Kevin Aliash started at the same time. And I was like, Oh, my god, that new boy is stunning. And I was referencing Aliash. And then somebody found it and Kevin's like, Oh my God, that new boy is stunning. And I was referencing Aliash. And then somebody found it and Kevin's like,

Oh, Stacey always fancied me. I was like, but that was about Aliash. But yes, you did it Josh. I did it. Yeah. I loved it. Yeah. You've got to do the full series, Josh.

I wouldn't do the full series. It's too much effort and I'm not good enough. Why not? It's a slog. It's a slog, yeah. How's your sleep Stacey? Better now. Yeah. Can's a slog, yeah. How's your sleep, Stacey? Better now. Yeah.

Can I say something, right? That's for me, the sleep deprivation was the hardest part of motherhood. I cannot begin to do it. The first year, my baby didn't sleep one night. Really? And I'm not exaggerating. She first slept through when she was about 14 months old. What is sleeping through? What time between would you say? From like, I don't know, 10 till 4. Oh, fucking hell, that's not sleeping through, Stacey. Yeah, I'm not

exaggerating. That's sleeping a bit, I think we call that. To people without a kid, that's a terrible night. That's what that is. That's take the day off work. I just I totally underestimated the lack of sleep and it's because it was my own fault. I went in so unprepared. I didn't do one antenatal class. I didn't listen to one podcast. I didn't read any books. No, but I don't think they're of any use because that actually makes you think that you can control it or you can do this or that. you're basically birthing a machine. But like, actually, I'd say the book I read and the kind of prep I did was a mistake because it made me think it was gonna be all right. Do you know what I mean?

The only thing that helped me, I didn't read a book or go do any of that stuff or listen to any podcast. The only thing that helped me was hearing Josh having a worse time than me. That helped. You need that. Yeah. What used to

happen, which was obviously really brilliant, was a couple of months in, you're sort of in the trenches aren't you, and you're digging through, and then I would see people in the coffee shop or whatever and they'd have three week old and they'd be like, oh, give him a bottle, put him down at seven, then he gets up at seven. I thought all the women who had brilliantly babies who slept right through would just come and tell me, anyway,'s gold now she'll sleep through but she's in our beds did you do anything to get to change it or did you just not really i mean i think it was because she was still on the boob everyone was saying when she's off the boob and she can take a bottle you might have an outcome

at least you can get some sleep and then kev can take a shift if she's on a expressed or on the bottle. Yeah. So she didn't have any of that till she was 40 months. Yeah, she was on the bed for about a year. Yeah. And again, that's something I really didn't think like foolishly before I had a baby, I maybe thought breastfeeding was like a bit woo woo woo whatever, you know what I mean?

I just don't think that would be for me. And I loved it and it became really important to me. So yeah, breastfed for a year, didn't sleep for a year. I remember the first night she took a bottle of milk and she was upstairs with Kevin Kevtex meat, she has taken the bottle of milk and I could not believe it. I thought we've cracked it. Oh my god, yeah. We've cracked it. We're laughing. Anyway, the sleep yeah, knocked me out. Knocked me for six to sleep.

And she's in your bed now. Has she got her own room? Does she go in there and come in? No. Do you know what? I guess like, I'm sort of not really arsed. I know there's like such emphasis placed on getting them in their own bed, but I think it's because Kev's away so much of the time anyway.

Yeah. Yeah. But then the evening, we'll have something to eat, then I'll put her in the bath, we'll have a bit of a chat, put her pajamas on, and then we just end up getting in my bed together watch one episode of Paddington and then go to sleep. What time are you going to sleep Stace? I'm going to bed early. Are you sleeping through? Yeah I'm going to bed at eight o'clock. Wow. Yeah from home I'm in bed at eight. And then what time do you all get up? Does she sleep through now? She'm still dealing with Roxy being in prison and you're asleep. Yeah, I'm having a great time now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're sleeping eight to late. I do think that is the way to get sleep. But then it is not always practical if you've got other stuff going on and or you've got other kids that are still awake, you know what I mean? And stuff like that. But if you can, why not? But I tell you what, though, we sort of set a precedent. Peter Clarke. I love it. Honestly, I get a cup of tea. Oh my god. I love it.

A seven-year-old don't go to sleep at about half eight nine it just won't calm down. I did a show last year I was in the town and was doing a show in the theatre so that obviously meant I was working of an evening but now she's so used to like being taken to bed like in a double bed and having someone to sleep with. It was my mum or Kev's mum so they were all going to bed at like eight o'clock. Do you know what I'm saying? Oh wait that was it. The routine was you were going to bed at eight o'clock. You can look after my child and you were going to bed at eight o'clock. Okay.

Is she in the middle when Kev's back? How does that work? Yeah. Yeah. My son he comes in about it depends I, they don't want to be too graphic. It depends whether he's had a shit that day, which is an incredible thing. Because he's still going through the stage where he's like holding them and stuff. So if he hasn't, he'll come in at 3am in stomach problems. But otherwise, he'll come in at 6am. But when he's in, he is three, but he's kicking and he's difficult to sleep with him in.

You need a bigger bed though. I saw your bed on Michael McIntyre. You've only got a double, Josh. I think you need to go a size up if you're gonna have a kid in there. You can't, you can't. If there's no room for a size up in zone two, Rob. Well, you need to move then.

I bet you've got loads of room. I'm not going into this again. The taxis won't drop you off. You can't have a double in a happy marriage. Not me and Lou after the divorce is just a double. She needs to spread out. He's a really little boy, Josh. I thought he was older.

But no, my daughter's seven. She's happily in her own bed. She's fine. Are you thinking, oh, I want him to leave, her to leave at some point, you can't be bothered. There's no point if Kev's in Oxford doing Chicago. Well, this is it. What am I doing otherwise? Yeah.

Maybe when Kev's back on the scene, we start remembering how you have sex, then maybe I would think actually, maybe you're going to have to go sort of hang out in your own bedroom now. From like a relationship point of view, it's hard enough to have the energy at any point, but if you've got to add into the mix the removal of a small child. Yeah. How are we going to sort of, yeah, and not wake her up? Yeah, I struggle with a cat in the room, never mind a child.

Yeah, I always think it's odd when people can have sex when there's animals in the room. I find that really bizarre. Do you? It actually turns Josh Olly demands it. Yeah, particularly if it's just me and the cat. It's not for me actually, Josh. A cat, a dog, nothing. I feel exposed.

Do you know, one time actually I was, I'm gonna have to police it. I do this series called Sleeps Over, right? Where I stay around these people's house. I get there on a Friday, leave on the Monday. Yeah, that's my idea of absolute hell by the way Stacey. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. I love it.

I did one in America, right? And the family, it was like an age gap couple. So she was in her sixties, he's in his twenties. They're like going for it. They were on OnlyFans. Anyway, that night, it's like a one bedroom flat. I was on the sofa. My producer, me, was on like a one bedroom flat. I was on the sofa. My producer, Mich, was on like a blow up mattress on the floor.

Them two are just having a great evening. And there was like this kind of bright fish tank with like neon lights flashing. And the kind of flashes were in time with the banging. And I just remember the whole evening being so bizarre and I was pregnant. Oh God. Oh my God. So I just remembered the whole evening just being so peculiar.

And now whenever I see a fish tank, I'm taken straight back to that. But okay, that's totally understandable that the fish is a mood killer. Those weekends are completely mad. They are completely insane. And are they totally for real then? Legit, yeah.

Because you'd think, oh, she probably goes to a hotel once they filmed her. Yeah. So you're sleeping on the sofa. I'm sleeping on the sofa. Well, them two were going for it. And there's like a neon fish tank. Bloody hell. And there was like loads of incense sticks everywhere. I remember

so clearly like the really intense smell of incense. It was just so design. Yeah, it never truly covers it up as well if they're going a bit that much. This is it. Exactly right. It's like a smoker's flat. Sex people's houses. You can smell it. So when you're away like that, I mean, I don't know if you've done any of those since Minnie's been born, but when you are away a bit of time, obviously she's used to Kevin being away more. How is she when you're away like that, I mean, I don't know if you've done any of those since Minnie's been born But when you are away a bit of time, obviously she's used to Kevin being away more How is she when you're away? She okay that now is it a struggle? We've really locked out and that might change but she's very adaptable like she's quite chill I shall wave her dad off or if I'm sort of down in London or whatever. I just you're buying my mother nice day

Yeah, because she loves hanging out with a nan and if my mum's not about she'll have Kev's mum, her grandma. So she's not asked really because we all fuss her. I think also if you're used to it, it just makes total sense to you. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, oh, mum's gone off to do work. Yeah. And I sort of like that without sort of sounding too sort of earnest or righteous as well. Like I like the idea of her, so mum goes to work, that's sort of like that from

an early age. I found my girls have got a little bit worse with it as they've got older and they've been more aware of what's going on, especially for my youngest. But then I think I was at home a lot during COVID when she was like two to four. So then she was just used to me being there all the time. But it's a constant, the changing and evolving and stuff. But it's just a balance, you've got to go work, haven't you? And if you work, that's your work.

If you're Billy Flynn in Oxford, you're Billy Flynn in Oxford. Listen, if you've got to go and save Roxy, you've got to go and save Roxy. Yeah, if you've got to stand next to a fish tank while a six-year-old woman's getting banged by a 20-year-old, you know, I'm best for that. You've got to pay your mortgage, Rob. You've got to pay the mortgage. No, but it's true. And again, this isn't something sort of exclusive to us. It's all of us to try to figure that out, haven't we? We all want to hang out with our kids and we all want to make sure we're present, but we've all got to pay the electricity bills. What works for you like if you

like kind of bed at eight o'clock you get 12 hours sleep and she's sleeping why not? I'm bouncing. You're the two people that's going to affect most so just do what works. That's it, she really is doing great she's such a wicked little kid like and I'm obviously I'm also really annoying really smart because her talking's so brilliant so I'm going to get the show off like when we're down the park and the other mums go how old is she? Her talking. I go, yeah, she's just turned two. I'm all like that. I'm really annoying. Do that for a whole year and see if anyone calls you out on it. Like when she gets to three and a half, yeah, she's 19 months. Yeah.

She's 44 months. No one could do maths that quick, just say two and a bit. Normally, like there'll be someone on here and the book they've written or something will have no relation to it, or they'll be going on a tour and it'll have no relation to parenting. Stacey, you're actually of interest to our listeners.

That is a parenting book. Yes, well. Dear Minnie, isn't it? Yes, called Dear Minnie. So, you know what it's like, we were sort of flirting with the idea, like there was, are we gonna do a third book? Yeah, I'd, you know what it's like, we were sort of flirting with the idea, like, are we going to do a third book?

Yeah, I'd like to do a third book. So we were sort of back and forth, what was the third book going to be about? And then it was sort of a no-brainer, do you know what I mean? It was like, oh, well, you've just had a baby, do you want to do a book about motherhood? And it was like, maybe, but you know, it's such an over-saturated market. Too right. Get your fucking tanks off our lawn. Oh, get your tanks off our lawn. So, I took, get your tanks off our lawn.

So I just didn't want it to be like that. And then I thought, actually, I'd kind of read, I think it was like one of the editorials, like for Mother's Day, a couple of the editors, the contributors, the writers had like written letters to their kids. And I thought, actually, that's really lovely. And sometimes like it's the simplest ideas.

Do you know what I mean? So I thought, I wonder if there's a world where I can just like have loads of conversations with loads of different moms, because it's so simplest ideas. Do you know what I mean? So I thought, I wonder if there's a world where I can just have loads of conversations with loads of different mums, because it's so universal, isn't it? Yeah, of course. And so I thought, I wonder if they can sort of tell me what's going on from their point of view. And then it feels a bit more inclusive. Do you know what I mean?

And I'm also painfully aware, like, I got pregnant. I was very lucky. My pregnancy was very straightforward. I fell pregnant with no complications. My birth, there was nothing overly difficult for me. And I so get that's not the case. So I wanted it to be representative. And it's letters from all these different mums that had different experiences and letters to their children that you sort of expand upon.

Yeah, exactly right. And so that's just quite nice as well as it's like keepsakes for their families that kids can be mortified by these letters in 10 years, but real, they exist in 30 years. I've got a bit confused, I googled it, and it said, dear Minnie Conversations with Remarkable Mothers. What came up was just loads of things like really sort of traumatic and horrific stories

or angles from these things that have happened to these mums or more normal ones. The way I read it, I thought it was you. I was like, fucking hell, clearly it's been for a bit. It was excerpts from all the different letters. I was like, oh right, I've got it now. She's had the time of it. She's had the time of it. I was like, wow, poor old Dooley. This is going to be a good episode. Growing up in Lagos, Jesus, it was gluten. There's like loads of different mums all just sort of writing letters to their kids. And how

did you find them all? It was kind of like how we do docs, all just sort of writing letters to their kids. And how did you find them all? It was kind of like how we do docs, like it sort of initially reached out to like different charities or different NGOs or people that have those kinds of contacts. And then we did like sort of public sort of did shout outs and stuff online. And then we sort of narrowed it down to I mean, the book could have gone on and on there's how many mums in the UK, do you know what I mean? Yeah. So we sort of tried to, yeah, just make sure that there were loads of different topics

touched on and I hope the mums are happy with it. I think they will be. Do you want to write a letter to Minnie each year maybe? Lots of people do this, don't they? And I'm never that organized. I need to get my shit together truly. I like the idea, like on her birthday when she was one, I wrote her a little letter. Yeah. Nothing too soppy, but it was just a photo idea, on her birthday when she was one, I wrote her a little letter. Nothing too sloppy, but it was just, and then the photo, and then on her second birthday, we did the same. So I hope everything-

Oh, that's nice. Yeah, but you know what, I mean, who's got time to do all that? I write a love letter twice a week on podcast to my daughter that will hopefully pay for their weddings. Oh, that's nice, that's nice. What a load of fucking bullshit that is. Ha ha ha! Was wild, and I don't know if you two feel like this, Oh, that's nice. That's nice. What a load of fucking bullshit that is.

Was wild. And I don't know if you two feel like this. Some people are like desperate to become like moms or desperate to become fathers. And it's like hugely important to them. And it's a non-negotiable. I was never like deeply maternal. Right. So I didn't know how it was going to play out. And now I'm just so, sounds really cheesy, but I just so fucking love being a mum actually. I'm so thrilled. Like, thank God I just did it. Thank God. Yeah.

It's wild, isn't it? Like it's just- I wasn't one of those people who thought this is definitely, like Rob, you were more like, this is where I want to go. Yeah, I've always wanted kids. Really? And always wanted girls as well. I come from so many men and boys in my family.

One of my nieces was born. It was the first daughter in the Beckett family for like 61 years. Stop. Fucking hell. It was just all men and all boys. Like I've got four brothers and stuff like that. So it was like the first girl born. But I wanted it to be a dad and I genuinely,

I love it so much more than anything else that I do. And I get to do a lot of exciting, fun, cool stuff in my job. What about Robin Ramesh? Yeah, do you know what? I love skiing with Ramesh and Eddie the Eagle, but I'd rather do it with my children. I hear that. Do you know what?

I just don't believe that, because Ramesh is a national treasure. No, but I love it. And it's not like I thought like I was very ambitious and career driven and stuff like that. And I still am like I thought like I was very ambitious and career driven and stuff like that. And I still am to a point where I want to do a good job and I'm very lucky to do what I do. But being with the kids and as much as we moan about it, but hanging out with the kids or taking them swimming and seeing their little smiley face, I love

it so much. And I've loved every stage of it even more so as they're growing older and they feel like my mates rather than these little babies that need just constant care, you know? I echo that. It's totally right. So much of my identity was wrapped up in what I did for a living. Yeah, totally. You know, at Maryland, it was like, well, and actually, of course we're so lucky, we get, of course we are. Yeah, we get to sleep on the floor listening to an old woman shag a young man. Exactly. And I love all that.

Rob smacked Eddie the Eagle Edwards. He loved all that. But there's nothing more fulfilling for me, And I never thought I'd be that woman. It's mad, isn't it? And has it changed your relationship with work then? Yeah. Would you go, I don't want to go to a sweat shop and whatever, or go to listen to some old people fucking.

I want to hang out with them. It's definitely changed the type of gigs I'm saying yes to. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I was doing a lot of brawls and often it was in really sort of hostile environments and I loved it. I truly loved it. I did that for all of my twenties and the start thirties and now it's just there are different priorities and if it doesn't work for many then I can't do it.

Do you think about your safety more then? Yeah I could do with not dying. I could do with being around. I could do with not dying. I could do with being around. Could do with not dying. I have to be around a lot more. Actually, I've turned into a hypochondriac as well since having the baby, because I'm so desperate to stay alive

for as long as possible. So yeah, it's wild. Also, you need to evolve in what you do, because if you just do the same type of show and repeat it, it becomes repetitive, you lose interest in it. And then the viewers like, well, I've sort of seen her do this before.

So you have to evolve with it. Having a kid sometimes is a good point to help you evolve as a person because you look at the world differently because it's not all about you, it's about other people. And then you have a slightly different perspective on it. Well, you're totally right. And actually I love doing like,

I do a lot of stuff like domestic stories now. There's so much going on here, do you know what I mean? And I've done some like really serious films that I'm really proud of. And I've done dafter films that have been'm really proud of, and I've done daft of films that have been fun, but it doesn't have to be one tone. Like, I think escapism is really important, and I've sort of lent into that. I love being silly, like Minnie's silly, and I'm silly with Minnie,

and not all my work has to be sort of so noble. A nice mix. Yeah, exactly. So with the book, was that like a way also of going, that's something I can do from the northwest of England? Do you know what I mean? Like I can still be there. I've got 12 hours during the day before I go to bed at 8pm. I've got a couple of hours in the day before I go for my 12 hours sleep. How am I going to film? I mean, I started the book actually when I was in London and it took a long time. Things always take longer, don't take longer than you anticipate. And

you sort of stupidly think, oh, I can sort of can do that from home. But actually, unless you've got silence, I really procrastinate unless it is just you at the desk. So yeah, it took a while. But that's what I mean, like stuff like I sort of do different things for a living now, which is really fun as well. Yeah, I mean, my thespian era, oh, acting. Yeah. Oh, you did the 2220 or whatever it's called, didn't you? The ghost story. It was so, so fun. I really thought I was like Meryl Streep. I'd be absolutely terrified. Have you got any background in, not because of the ghosts, I mean, because of like the West End. Have you got any background in acting?

You'd be fine because you're on the stage. I mean, I don't know how anyone does stands on a stage and tells jokes Truly, but I honestly cannot think of anything worse. So someone said to me here's a million pounds Like this is a million pound contract and you've got to do three nights. Yeah, I used to go Oh, no, because we just practice it a lot and we do that but and I think I was in denial It's fucking horrendous and almost impossible. But for some reason we do it every time I go to walk out I go this is mental. There's no one else here. What the fuck am I doing? Every night I will think, what the fuck am I doing with my life? That's the words that go through my head. There's an easier way to do this, surely.

And that's not just with stand up. That would be before a panel show, before anything where you're like, why am I doing this? I know, not for a panel show, that's a piece of piss that I sat down chatting, but standing on your own. Oh no, Rob, even with that I think, oh my god. Stacey, can I ask, how's your social life then and your identity as Stacey the sort of woman, not just mum and TV person, because you've moved up north now, you're going to bed at eight o'clock every night, you love it, but that doesn't lead a lot of time to meet people, go out for dinner and drinks and stuff like that. How are you balancing that?

Or is that out to pasture? It's as hedonistic as it sounds, Rob. There's not bags of time to be sort of going up. But you know what, to be totally honest with you, I've never been on the party scene. Yeah. I mean, I get invited to all these dos and these showbiz events,

and it's just, it's not totally my bag, actually. I think I've got something on next Friday this look at me I've got something on next Friday go on Stace will you get on next Friday 12 days away go on go on what's happening well I love the boxing so I'm gonna go down Royal Albert Hall and it's Lauren Press and Natasha Jonas nice so I'm really excited about that because I'm gonna make a Royal Albert Hall and it's Lauren Press and Natasha Jonas. So I'm really excited about that because I'm gonna make a night of it, which is obviously we're talking about 12 days in advance

because I'm a mom and it's so boring. I'm gonna go to St. Sweet, go with my pal, have a lovely evening, stay in a nice hotel, have a nice weekend. But the point is I have to prepare everything, like all moms. But I don't mind it. I don't feel like I'm missing out.

I'm 38. I don't mind being in the house. I'm much more happy here to be honest. I'm happier at home than trying to get into the Brit Awards after party. Can you tell us when you interviewed all these people for the book, these mums, what was the kind of story that, I mean, obviously you don't want to pick a favorite, but what was the one that kind of blew you away the most? Yeah, they're all impressive for different reasons. There was always like a common thread where we're all just trying to figure it out, you know what I mean? And that fundamental, we're just trying to sort of do our best. That felt like the kind of thread that sort

of runs through the conversations and the letters in the book. But I mean, some of them are really funny, like there's this girl, she sort of talks about she's going on holiday and a water's break on the dance floor and that all feels very sort of funny. There's nice sort of liar moments where it's all just oh go on. Yeah and then there's really sort of poignant points made about people starting new lives here in the UK and people really struggling with diagnoses and people not being able to come home with their baby. It's a real sort of varied look at what it means to be a mum.

And that's what we wanted to do, but ultimately I did want it to feel sort of celebratory. I'd done two prior and one of them was looking at like women on the front line, the women I'd met over the years, and then one about the mental health crisis. I did two films in a mental health hospital. So I really hope that people like it, but let's see. Do you know what, that is the best attitude you could ever have to releasing anything. Let's see. I hope people like it. But let's see. Do you know what? That is the best attitude you could ever have to releasing anything.

Let's see. I hope people like it, but let's see. Or maybe you don't even see. It's done now. Just go to bed. Is it out now or is it out soon? No, it comes out Mother's Day. There you go.

Oh, you know what you're fucking doing. Stacey, we always finish with one question about your partner. It's not about your partner every week, but our guest partner. What's the one thing that he does as a parent, you're like, oh my God, he's amazing, I couldn't do that without you. Or what's one thing he does where you go, that's actually quite annoying.

And if you were to listen, I wanna say it and get it off my chest and he can stop doing it. You can answer in either order. I mean, he is, and again, I'm so mindful that, Bombard and you with these shows, he is a fucking brilliant dad, actually he is pretty knockout. Like with the

baby and what he's good at, which I'm not very good at. He's good at getting us to sleep. For example, last night, she sort of went playing ball, she won't go to sleep. I think it's because we were both here. Yeah. And I was saying baby gonna have to go to bed. That's really late. If you won't have enough energy to go soft play the usual. And she went mum, I've got to get up. I've got to buy to get up I've got to buy a radiator I've got to buy a bed I've got to buy a door just talking this nonsense I

texted her I was like you're gonna have to come get this child like she will not go to sleep he's really good at walking around he'll sing to her you can sing yeah we know that Josh we know that yeah so yeah he'll sing razzle dazzle no he won't he'll sing her to sleep he's good at that and I'm not great, but he's useless, he can't cook. Oh really? Oh really? So if he's got the baby she'll have pesto pasta, she'll have a yoghurt in the morning and then a pouch or a hit meal. Really? Yeah. So you cooking proper meals for Mini then? Well I'm trying, I'm not brilliant but I can do more than. Mine are still just on plain pasta and bread, they don't like anything.

I took them and those right. And got them to plain chicken. Yeah. It is called plain. Like literally there's one that's like a bit spicy for kids. And one is like, this is fully played. I got a separate knife and fork to cut it up with so that my hot one didn't go on there. And I did it and I cut it up and then she went and spat it out. So I drink water, like I poured bleach in her mouth. And they can't handle any spice or flavor. My kids. It's not so funny, though. And this is very off brand for me.

I've got to say, she's got a very middle class palette. She likes salmon, anchovies and capers. Was she a fucking cat? She tried olives. She does love olives. Sounds like a ballpark olives, doesn't it? Yeah, it does feel like she's going to enjoy an olive. Stacey, thank you so much. Good luck with the book and stuff. Sounds like a ballpark, olives, doesn't it? Yeah, it does feel like she's gonna enjoy an olive. Stacey, thank you so much.

Good luck with the book and stuff. Sounds like you're having a great time, so keep it up. Thanks for speaking to us. Thank you, guys. Bye. Bye.