Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S11 EP5: Olly Murs

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant singer, songwriter and presenter - Olly Murs. Fresh off a sold-out Arena tour, including three massive dates in London (two at The O2 & one at Wembley Arena), Olly Murs is currently back on the road continuing his 15 Years Of Hits celebration across the UK with a run of outdoor summer shows. With seven studio albums under his belt, including five chart topping records, Olly just released his new single ’Save Me’ and has an album due later in the year.  Tour dates: August 2025 Fri 29th Blackpool, Illuminations Sat 30th Jedburgh, Edge Fest    Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please subscribe and leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show with any correspondence, kids intro audio clips, small business shout outs, and more.... here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] Follow us on instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@parentinghell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Widdickham. Welcome to Parents in Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week you'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping.

Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting wo. Because let's be honest, There are plenty of times where none of us know what we're doing. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Sam, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett.

And can you say Josh Whittickham? Oh, sorry, that is the first time that's happened. Someone started ringing me during it. Who was it? My accountant. Josh Whittaker. Huh, uh-oh. And try it again.

Can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. And can you say Josh Whittacom? The Wickham. Well done. What happened there? There was a shift halfway through. What, my accountant called?

Right, when my accountant called, I feel instant panic and fear. And I think it's like a product of my upbringing where it's probably all going to go wrong. It's that poverty mindset thing where it's like also going to go wrong. I probably owe loads of money. and I'm going to go to prison. So I don't have that with my accountant. I'm fine with my accountant. Yeah.

Because I've got quite a weird relationship with money in that I didn't grow up with much money at all. I went to a nice comprehensive school, but we never, I only went abroad once as a child, all that. So that's the kind of level you're looking at. We always were quite hand to mouth. Yeah. But my parents never had a, whether they didn't show it or something, they never had a worry about it. So I haven't inherited money worry. Right.

It was just like, oh, we've got enough for what we need and quite chilled about it. Yeah. What did your dad do? My dad was a various builder. And then for the second half of my childhood, he was the house husband. And my mum was a book editor. Right. Okay.

Did your mum keep normal nine to five hours? Not really because she was freelance and worked from home. But she worked for, see, my dad was a lorry driver and a cab driver and used to go out to get money. And I used to feel guilt about him having to go out and work so long. Yeah, I didn't for things. so money panics me a bit. I didn't feel that because you just go upstairs.

Yeah, it doesn't. But I tell you what does panic me. Go on. So I get that from if my agent contacts me and says, can you give me a call? I think it's all over. Right.

You think I've been exposed or something, even though I don't think there is anything. It's all over. I've been cancelled. Everything's gone wrong in my career. They're calling me to drop me. Right. Yeah, I don't get that for my agent.

Yeah, so I get that. Not if she calls me. if she called me now I'd be fine with it if she sent me a text that said can you give me a shout I'd think it's all over yeah but I got better with it because I've educated myself on money so that's how you feel with accountant

but I've had to work really hard on that and I'd have to go into meetings and they'd talk about things and I'd go and I'd ask them so many questions like I was literally like a child in order to get my head round it and understand it but I used to just be fearful of it so much so the point was it wouldn't spend any of it

yeah and just to hold on to it because it would be like, oh, God, you know, as a safety blanket. You wouldn't even pay tax, would you? That's what you told me. Well, you wouldn't pay tax. I was so careful and so sensible with it. Anyway, so let's get back to those people. Let's get off the accountant, Tand.

Yeah, so sorry, the accountant called me. Hello, boys. Oh, oh. Attached is my son Sam's intro to the pod. Pretty good, considering he's just turned two. If I do say so myself, he's a big fan of anything zoo or farm-related. Always seeing old McDonald in the car. I don't think we've ever done old McDonald's.

Put an all farm on for him. Yeah, he'd love it. My wife is pregnant with our second due on her birthday in September, and Sam is looking forward to meeting his baby brother or sister, although he's hoping more for a sister. Keep up the good work with the pod. It's the only podcast my wife and I can both agree on listening to our long car journeys. Oh, that's good.

We don't we listen to the podcast and the kids just want their music on all the time. Oh, so our kids have got, they listen to their own stuff, so we can listen to our, I told you about the three Coldplay albums. Yeah, but our kids don't We don't let them have their iPads Because it makes him feel sick in the car Yeah, our kids don't feel sick It's the ultimate blessing from God

But it actually makes us be like Yeah, we don't believe on screen time that much We connect as a family in the car But it's actually because they've on it But we can pretend like, you know Actually, we just think it's great as a four Just to connect over Taylor Swift songs On Constant Repeat

Cheers from Nick 476 months Hannah 432 months and 724 months From hitching Lovely, a little bit of hitching How are you, Josh? all right I've had a big clear out

what do you mean a shit no not I've not had a shit well I have had a shit but yeah you've got a skip we've got a skip talk to me about a skip oh I tell you what a skip

how much do you pay for a skip absolutely no idea lose did it right okay and I don't even want to know yeah I'm enjoying it I don't want my enjoyment of the skips

to be ruined by knowing the cost yeah fine I think a skip is a great investment over the summer holidays okay because that sad is your summer holidays we are struggling

to find stuff to do how much stuff have you got Well, this is what happens, and I think it happens to most families. You normally have a kid or two kids, and you're normally in a little flat somewhere that was suitable for a couple, yeah? Yeah. You have a kid, you get loads of crap, it's too small. You have a second kid.

You've got to move, yeah? Yeah. Normally, you move further out of London to somewhere bigger, so you've got more space. Or you don't live in London in the first place, like 90% of the country. No, but people do normally move out of, you know. For more space, you've got to move further away from train stations, towns and cities. but what happens is you're really busy you've got young kids and you think

should I have a sort out of all the stuff we own no fuck it just take it because we've got space for it all then you get there you slam it all in cupboards and then you just acquire more shit but you've got the space for the shit because the kids haven't grown up into the rooms yet and don't need big bikes and all that we didn't realize how much crap was in the house

but stuff from like the old house that we just put in a box and because we had more space here that's just accumulated and we've been putting stuff in the skip but it's just been great. Good for morale with the neighbours. Nice.

Trevor sent me a photo of his wheelbarrow the other day. Did you mind if I chuck a couple of these in? Had a few rocks that he found in his garden. And I went, yeah, not a problem. Then he texts back and also chucked in a bit of metal, the cheeky bastard. But that wasn't in your fucking photo, was it, Trevor? Why not? Trevor's a legend, though, so I don't mind.

When do they come to get the skip? They are coming tomorrow, and there is one more beanbag chair that we want to put in it, but we can't. It will be over the limit. Was there a limit on a skip? Yeah, you can't overfill it. Oh. Because it's dangerous and it's a piss take and it could fall off and all that.

So there is, you're supposed to keep it level. Yeah. But you had a little bit of breach. Yeah, yeah. You know, a little bit of like metal or the sticks out a bit. That's fine. But you can't just launch a beanbag on top and over the best. I mean, whizzies down the A2.

No, no, exactly. But yeah, we've just been skipping it, aren't, mate? It's absolutely great. Oh, glad. Had a good old clear out. So, yeah, it feels good. The house feels spring, clean, fresh, ready to go. So that's what we've been up to.

Lovely. Between them, me buying stuff on the TikTok shop. Have you bought stuff off TikTok shop yet? No, I don't do TikTok. It's all absolute shite. What is TikTok shop? I bought a T-shirt, Steve's Lava chicken t-shirt. Do you know Steve's Lava chicken?

No, of course not. Lava. No, that's not helping. Steve's lava chicken, yeah, tasty as hell. Is it from TikTok? Oh, Mama's see the and I'm ringing the bell. This is why I'm not on TikTok. I've got no interest in that.

It's a lover attack. Right. Yeah. Minecraft. I'm aware of what Minecraft is. The film. No. La La Lava.

Lava. Lava chicken. No. Steve Lava chicken, yeah, tasty his hair. Oh, mamacita. Yeah, you've got one minute, 20 until the guest comes on. Keep going. Heartbreaker.

Try to do an only more song instead. Heart attack. Dun, do, do, do. Heartbreaker. Anyway, Steve's Lava Chicken's a song Jack Black sings in Minecraft movie. Right. And I bought them two T-shirts. £3 £12 each have turned up the fucking shittest eat,

honestly. But yeah, stay off TikTok shop. It's too alluring the low prices, but it's all crap I've found anyway. Yeah, Olly Murs, coming up. I suppose the question before I answer, what are your top three, Olly Mers songs? Hard breakers up there.

Yeah. Heart skips a beat. Hard skips a beat. Did you vote for, have you ever voted in a public talent show? I bet you voted in I'm a celebrity, haven't you? Yeah, I have for Sean Walsh. in Strictly or I'm a celebrity

or both No not in Strictly I didn't vote for him but in the jungle I did I voted for Will Young in the great battle with Gareth Gates Oh dance with me tonight Troublemaker Heart seems to be

Reading them off Spotify I can see it Oh I keep going Heartbreaker It's not it's Troublemaker Rob I can see you reading them Yeah I am Are you on like a sort of healthy You've got to drink

A certain amount of water in a day thing No you know what I try and drink I think because I've always done this because I sing. So I always drink probably about three or four litres of water a day. Jesus. That's about one and a half litres.

So I try and knock about two of them back a day. And are you drinking anything else? No, but genuinely, that's all I really drink is water, nothing else. It's weird. I try to drink other stuff.

I just, yeah, I like boring old water. Well, welcome to the show, half man, half water, Olly Murs.

Aquaman's here. We're all half water, Rob. We're all half water. He's 80% water. It must be. Ollie, welcome to the show. It's good to be on here, guys. Thank you so much for having me on.

I appreciate it. I need this chat. Really? So talk us through it. How many kids you got, Ollie? Well, I have got one at the moment, and I've got another one coming in about five weeks. Oh, whoa.

How old is the one you got? Maddie is currently 16 months old. Oh, you weren't messing about it. Well, you have a big gulf of water back in again to get another one out. See, you guys think this is water. It's actually vodka. Hmm. So you're going to have two.

80 months. Two under two is bad, but 280 months is full on. Yeah, well, I've got to tell you something, right, Rob. So I saw you, I made, we did a show together about two years ago. You bet? Was that you bet?

No, no. It was way before that. It was on like a Sunday brunch or something. I can't remember where it was. And you actually gave me your book about parenting. Oh, yes. And you said to me, Ollie, before you have kids, read this and it will stop you from having kids.

Well, I never fucking read it. Of course. I've never fucking read it. Now I've got two kids coming and I wish I did. How do you think the difference between one and two is going to be, Ollie? Because we normally speak to people who've got one or I've got two. We rarely speak to someone who's about to do the change and how much have you considered the difference? Well, my wife is considering it a lot and I don't know if this is just a dad thing or a bloke thing.

I genuinely am like, I'd be fine. I'm quite patient and quite, I'll just deal with it as it comes. I'm not someone who's like going to overthink this too much. now obviously that might be because we absolutely cracked it with Maddie right so in my head I'm very much aware that it's probably not going to be the same with the new one I think that's good because there's a lot of people who get an easy first child and they go I've got this I'm brilliant all these other people are fucked up and then they get surprised that the second child has a different personality to the first child

so how have you cracked it with Maddie talk us through cracking it we've never met anyone that's cracked it yet, so I'm very excited to hear. Ollie Merle's the first person to crack parenting. Talk us through it. With Maddie, I just think I've got an amazing wife. She's absolutely been brilliant, and I've been on a lot of tours, so I haven't been home much.

That's what cracking it is. That was actually Gary Barlow, my first advice that I got when Maddie was born. I said to Gary, I said, Gary, you've got any parent advice, and he went, book another tour. That's what he basically said. So I phone. I followed that and booked another tour this year.

Well, the family come on the tour at all. Well, we've done that, yeah. The tour's been, and Amelia, to be honest with you, she's quite blunt. She said to me, if I come on the road, does the show change every night? And I said, no, it's the same. She went, well, once I've seen it, won. Three words, phoning it in. And also, as much as I love Maddie, and of course, I love my wife.

I quite like the space and the, I can wake up in the morning when I want, go to the gym. Yeah, yeah. You need that for the performance, Holly. Exactly. I said this to Amelia. I said, I need to sleep. I do feel bad. I feel very guilty

being on the road. Imagine if you were to change the show every night because your wife was bored back stay. Evening, Manchester, I won't be playing any of the hits because my wife's heard them last night, so I know you bought tickets. Yeah, she's bored.

She wants a new show. But no, going back to her cracking it, I just think the sleep's been the massive thing after about nine weeks with Maddie. And I actually feel guilty talking about it because I always think there's people that watch it or watch this or they'll listen and go, oh, for fuck's sake,

Ollie, yeah, of course, yeah. Bet you had a night, nanny. And it's like, no, we actually didn't. Amelia's been absolutely brilliant at getting the baby into a routine. When I came back into it, we just worked really well on understanding what the cries were at night. There's that wingy cry, which is just, they just need a cuddle. And then there's the cry when you know they need food. And so we just kind of worked with that.

And then after nine weeks, we literally put her to bed at like six or seven. And she didn't wake up until the next morning until six. and we were all completely panicked. You're not having that again. I'm going to tell you that for free. We've come to terms with that. We've come to terms. As well, I'm a really good listener,

and I speak to a lot of different dads, and I'm sure you guys would tell me stories today. I'm very much aware that my expectation of the second baby is here already. I'm already expecting it's going to be rough, it's going to be tough. And has she been like that all the way through for the first 16 months?

Genuinely, that for me, I think, regardless of everything else, I think we all know sleep is the biggest thing. Yeah, I'd say it's 80% of it. But barring, like, a medical thing, which would be horrific, of course. Sleep is so much of the battle with the baby. Yeah, for the parents and for the kids, because if you've got no sleep and you're still trying to go work

and look after them, it's game over. But if you know that and be confident that every night, she's going to be asleep for 12 hours, you can sort your life out. The thing is the hardest thing for us is when she doesn't have a good night's sleep. We don't know what to do. We're like, what the fuck? Amelia? She's like, what? She's crying. What the fuck do we do? I don't know. Shit. What happens? We're like, oh, fuck, quick. Where's the paperwork? Right. First things first, check nappy. Do they need to feed it? When she actually has a bad night, we actually worse for us. We don't know. The whole world comes down.

Does that make you more worried about the second one in a way? Because you're like, what's it actually going to be like if this doesn't happen again? Be honest with you. What's going to happen, you know, he's going to... Maddie's like, me and Amelia, she sleeps brilliantly. So we're going to have to deal with the fact that the baby's going to be crying. It's going to be like a ripple effect through the house. Yeah. Because we've got a dog called Missy and she's a Shiba Inu. And if you've ever heard a Shiba Inu bark, it's not really a Shiba Inu, that's what she is.

It's like a Japanese dog, right? Right. If you ever hear a Shiba Inu, it's like, ah! It's not even a bark. It's not like. And he's just fucking made it up so he can bark how it wants, can't it doesn't exist yet. He's genuine. He's like, whoo, woo, woo, woo, he's like, ah, ah!

So it's going to be this ripple effect of a baby going and then it's going to be Maddie. Maddie's then going to go mental and then we're going to have the dog go mental. I think it's going to really actually talking about it now, it's going to be really tough on Maddie because Maddie's really good sleep and she's not going to be used to it. Me and Amela's sort of used to it. So it is going to be a completely different change

and I've accepted that this is what it's going to be. So I've honestly genuinely, everyone I've spoke to, every parent I've spoke to the guy that's got two, have said the same. So I'm just fully prepared. And the problem you've got is your tour dates that you've got coming up this August, they're all in the next five weeks. I know. You're blowing your tour

at the wrong time. Well, if I can get these next five shows done, I've said Tamila, please, please don't have the baby early, please. Yeah, 29th of August, Blackpool Illuminations, and then Jedberg. Yeah, Jedberg, it's up in Scotland. It's a Jedberg festival, so it's up in Scotland. If you're at Edgefest in Jedburgh,

that's the danger one, isn't it? That's the danger one. Honestly, yeah, they're the ones that I'm slightly concerned about. Are you London-based, Ollie? I'm Essex and London, so I've got a place in London and Essex. And it's a long way from Jedberg. I can't believe you've made up the dog and a place in Scotland, did. And then I actually have got party in the park for Radio 2.

That's on Saturday the 7th of September. Now that is cutting it absolutely fine. And have you got time off after that then? You've done the tour now to get it out the way almost for the baby's arrival. So you're not, you're going to be there. You've not done a Gary Barlow and booked it immediately after. 100% not. And to be fair, Amelia, that was probably the hardest thing for me with Maddie

is that actually after two days of having Maddie, I had to go back on tour. So I literally came home. It makes me sound so awful, but that was because of I was contractually, I had to go and do the tour. So I said to Amelia after two days, I had the baby in the hospital and I was like, look,

it's so difficult to, if you're a musician particularly, you can't cancel a tour show. because there's so much on it. If you've seen that Robbie Williams documentary where there's footage of him backstage, like having this awful panic attack and they're like, he can't cancel it because the millions of pounds

that it would cost him to. You're saying that, Ollie did have to cancel two shows being unwell recently, do you, Ollie? How did that work then? Well, I actually, this is going to sound bad. Typical dad now,

I actually blame Maddie because I was actually... She slept for eight hours. You were livid. No, what I... I had a bad night's sleep in it, give me. I'd just finish four shows back to back. I finished Wembley Arena and hadn't seen Maddie or Amelia for about five weeks. Fuck.

So I was desperate to go home because I was in this kind of mode of like, right, I've got to concentrate on this tour. I need to get it done. Amelia did come and see me at the O2, but she didn't bring Maddie. So we had a good catch up with Amelia there. But I didn't really get a chance to actually see the baby. So I was like, right, I've been FaceTime every day. I've got to see her.

So that week, we had. I had like three or four days off, which was lovely. And then I had four shows. I had Glasgow, Manchester, and Birmingham, then Manchester. I've had four days of gigs. I need a good rest. So I went straight home. And as soon as I got home, I was so good to see Maddie.

So good. It was so good for my soul. Felt great. And then literally, within five, ten minutes of having Maddie in my arms, she just went, just spat all over me. She was all just gunk out of her nose. And I just was like, oh, wow, thanks, Maddie. That was a lovely welcome.

And then literally over the course of the next two days, I just didn't feel 100% right. And I literally got the worst throat infection known to man. And I didn't realize until the Thursday. So I've gone to Soundcheck and I've done this gig. I was in Glasgow and I felt, I didn't feel 100%. I thought, you know, I can probably get through this. Vitamin C, I was drinking everything. I was like, right, anything I can do to get myself through the gig.

And nine times out of 10, as a singer, you can kind of, even if you're 70%, you can kind of get through it. If you've got a cold or you're not feeling 100%, you can just get it. through it. Literally after six songs, I'm singing, and my voice has gone. And I mean, it's going. And there's nothing I can do. An anxiety dream. Honestly, it's the first time of life. I genuinely had a massive panic attack. I had no idea. Inside, I was going, what am I going to do? I've got 12,000 crazy Scots at the hydro. I mean, if you've ever done that arena, it's, no.

Nope. If you've ever been there, Josh. And in Scotland, they are there for a party. It's a Thursday night. Yeah, Josh has done 12 people at Moore and All, haven't you? Let's talk about Jedberg again, because I'm grabbed in Jedberg. Exactly. And so I literally after six songs, I knew that I couldn't get these notes out. So what did you do? Because the show was quite relentless, you know, when you're doing a show like that.

And you've got a band and everything and are they clocking it? Yeah, well, at this point, I mean, to be honest with you, it's all programmed and it's all staging and all the lighting. Everything is in, I know that I've got to sing the next three songs because there's no break. Yeah. So I'm like, right, I've got to get to this last song. And then there was Army of Two, which was one of the songs I do. And at the end of it, I actually get a chance to speak.

At this point, I can't speak to my MD. I can't speak to my manager because she's obviously offstage. What's the MD mean? Sorry, musical director. Musical direct here. So Sean's in control of everything. So I can't even see him. Yeah.

Obviously, my voice is starting to go and everyone could hear that. I've looked down. I can't see my tour manager. My production manager wouldn't be on stage. And then I'm starting to panic then. I'm like, what do I actually do in this situation? Now, as I'm singing, the first thing that come into my head was, I'm just going to have to walk off stage.

Yeah. And then I'm thinking, I can't do that. That's just not who I am. Secondly, I'm thinking, I've seen a few artists do this before. I've seen Morrissey do it. I've seen Rayleigh Montaigne do it. I've seen other artists that I've unfortunately just walked off stage. I said, I can't do the gig anymore.

And I thought, I've going to have to do it. And then I just said to myself, do you know what, after this song, I'm just going to tell him. So I just literally looked over to my MD. I went, it's done. He thought I meant skip a few. few songs because the next song was quite a tough one i went no no it's done and i just started talking and as i started talking i looked down i saw this scotsman look at me and he had both his kids in one arm like each arm oh god i said guys i'm really sorry but i'm going to have to

cancel the show it's over or whatever i said i can't remember and literally i shouldn't laugh but this guy was like he started laughing at me he was like he's over the jaw this guy and then his face just turned he absolutely turned on me he looked at me and i said i'm sorry guys my voice is going i hope you can get a refund luckily in our insurance and i i say luckily because i i'm so happy that people got a refund i think it was like if i had gone over 40 minutes of the show they wouldn't have got their money back but i think i stopped at 36 minutes anyway everyone got a refund but this guy's face is stuck with me it's stuck with me every night since he literally turned and he was like he's got his kids there like that and he's got his kids there like that

These kids are like, what's going on? That felt really awful. I had to walk off stage and I, and then I just sat there and thought, well, there was nothing I could do really. Unfortunately, the show's got cancelled and I feel awful about it. I'm not someone who's ever cancelled gigs before,

so it's not, if you're not well, you can't. If you're doing that, it's because you have to do it. You're not going, you know what, I can't be fucking bothered it. You're not laying on the sofa at own guy, I can't be bothered it because it's made the effort to get it. You want to go there, so you give them a good show. But this was so important. It's the biggest show of my life.

It's 15 years celebrating my career. And I actually said to the guys, this is the biggest tour of my life. I can't give you the show that you want. You're not getting your money's worth if I just did this. If you were dreadful, they wouldn't have got a refund and then at least I can come back next time, you know? So Maddie, bless her soul.

She doesn't know this yet, but when it's her 18th birthday, she's getting no presents. Absolutely nothing. You're not going to go to Glasgow. I'm going to say too, Maddie. Happy 18th birthday. Because of the Glasgow Birmingham show and Manchester show that I should have done in 2025,

I didn't get paid, so you're not getting anything. Happy 18th. Because you got me ill. No, I'm joking. I wouldn't be that harsh. I heard a story. I don't know who it's about, but a tour manager told me,

but he said, I can't tell you who it is. He was doing a band, and the singer completely lost his voice, but they couldn't afford to cancel. And he had to mime the whole thing, and they had to try and get away with it. And they got away with it.

Do you think you could do it? In the past, so basically, it's probably an inside thing. I don't know if anyone, any fans know this or anyone that's listening would know. But before a tour starts, you can sing the set if you want to. You can sing the whole set. Your musical director will have that bed of music and your vocal in the track.

So if I really wanted to, and at some point in the show, I was like, my voice is going. You can flip it into, we'll put your vocal back in. Yeah. But then what you're risking is, is that you don't sing in the parts that you remembered that you'd sung. Yeah. All right. So you'd be like, I just want you to dance with. You'll be like, put in your mind.

You're actually not singing it. But then your voice is in the ears. And everyone goes, well, you're miming. And you're like, oh, fuck. Yeah, shit. You just fucking. The other thing with that is, if you got to halfway through your set and you've gone, I'm just going to have to mime the rest of it.

And then you got caught. No one's going to believe that's the first time you've done it. Yeah. Everyone's going to go, oh, he mimes the whole tour. Do you know what I mean? Like, there's so much to lose. Yeah. Can I talk about these gigs this summer because you've done like the arenas.

And this is part of the same 15 years of hits tour. They're kind of outdoor gigs. With comedians, outdoor gigs are just, they're unplayable. Really? Yeah, because all the sound disappears. It's like the opposite of what you want from a comedy audience. What's it like, I know this is a bit like inside baseball, but what's it like as a singer?

Is it all right doing outdoor gigs? I suppose with comedians, what you need is that intimacy, is it? Yeah, you need it to be as tight as possible. For comedians, I suppose you need people to be really listening to your story. and listening to the joke that you're telling. Yeah. Whereas with music, I actually prefer outdoor gigs

when it's a festival, like show or if it's a race course. Yeah, because you get like, the arena side of it is more like, it's more of a show. You get the lights, you get the screens, you get this real sort of,

I don't know, it's a story, you know, especially this tour I did, but the story of my career. But then when I stepped outside and done the festivals, I mean, for example,

like, Dear Darling is a really emotional song for me to sing. it's about losing someone you love and it's been a song that my fans absolutely adore and it's really hard to when you're at a race course and you've got 35,000

people gambling and having a great day and they're all being drinking and I'm like Dear darling they're looking at me like we're fucking having a laugh mate we're going to be dancing

so I have to kind of like change my set slightly to adjust to what you're doing and I absolutely love I love people moshpitting to dear darling it's one of my favorite things to say we did a good we did york race course recently this year and like it's the first time that I'd been doing a set and I'd seen a massive 20 man brawl literally had me it was almost like they were annoyed that I didn't play a song that

they wanted and they're like whoa I'm thinking I'm singing like heart skips a beat you know it's like a pop song I look across and literally there's like four or five policemen in there and it's this massive 20 man brawl and I'm just like what do I do with that? this moment, do I stop singing? Because there's another 30,000 people all cheering and loving it. Or do I just stop and, I don't know, I was kind of like baffled. What did you do? Just sing and watch while you're singing? I just kept singing because at the pre-fair, the police were in really quick, stopped it and then they all got ushered out. And presumably most of the crowd aren't even aware it's happening, right? Exactly. So I'm looking over this side.

You've got everyone's loving it. This side, I've just got, honestly, it's never happening all my life at a gig. I've had certain situations happen, you know, if someone might have fainted or there might be someone that needs some assistance or you know you get little odd moments like that that you can stop the show and like get paramedics in or you need someone to get looked at but never seen a fight with 10 police officers running in to stop it all it was a bit mad what can I say you know my music's crazy it gets people in these kind of aggressive mood you know you love doing these summer gigs or you've done your arena tour and then all these summer festival shows when your kids are older and they're in school and stuff or you try and take the summer off

or because if you have this same schedule when they're off school, you're not going to see them for the summer holidays. What do you guys do? Because I've spoke to a lot of parents recently. Again, their six weeks summer holidays is like, it's like work itself. I think in a way we're quite lucky in comedy

because comedy tours don't tend to happen in the summer in the same way. So there's a kind of natural dip in working in the summer anyway in our industry. A lot of work to do. So I try and take time off then because it is hard of work. Because we're not missing out on much if we don't work in the summer, if that makes sense. Where for you, it's like probably one of the most profitable parts of the year doing all the festival gigs and stuff. You know what the summer shows are, actually?

You're right. He really is. But I've been really lucky because of this summer tour, it's normally like a Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Yeah. So I think if me and Amelia work it well enough, and to be honest with you, and I don't know how you guys are when you go out with your kids. But for me, like, I tend to not go out at weekends with my kids on a Saturday or Sunday. yeah because of my lifestyle because of i suppose the celebrity thing whatever and i think

when i go out on a saturday it seems to be the busiest time of the year of the day like i said to amela like even before we had kids you know going out on a saturday like if you wanted to go on a date night so if we go to the cinema i said to amela we can't really go on a saturday night because if i can i suppose i'd have to go in just as the film turns on and walk up and sit down because in the past i've done that on a saturday i've gone out to say the cinema or we've gone to the arcades with Amelia and it's just it ends up becoming like Emilia ends up becoming a photographer for most of the night. Well, I was exactly the same as that. But then what happens is your kids go to school and the only time you get with them is the weekends or the summer holidays and they

want to go do normal things, go swimming and stuff like that. And it is really hard because you're trying to do the normal stuff with them, but then everyone's wanting pictures and they get a bit annoyed. It's really tricky because you can't just say to you eight and nine year old, no, we don't go out at weekends because it's busy for dad. You know what I mean? It's really Yeah, no, and this is going to be hurdles that I'm going to have to get used to and figure out. And, you know, we've made amelia ever spoke like that. It's, I want Amelia to live as normal life as possible with Madison and obviously with a new baby and try and live as normal as possible. I know it's going to be difficult for me to have their moments with Maddie and go, oh, let's go bowling tonight on a Saturday where it's a bit more atmosphere, there's more people.

Your friends can come. It'll be a really good night. No one wants to go bowling on a Monday night or a Tuesday, do they? Let's be honest. I'll be like, let's go bowling on a Monday, so. But we've had it recently Like we went on holiday For our first holiday last year

To Tenerife It was lovely Like I was really worried about getting on a plane Oh my God The plane I was like right We're going on holiday And I said to Amelia

My biggest pet hate I think I might have spoke to you about this Actually Rob My biggest pet hate Before I had Madison Was getting on a plane And screaming babies I used to just be like

Oh God Like When I have kids I can't deal with a screaming baby On a plane I'll just, again, going back to it, when I get on a plane, I literally, I'm either trying to catch up on sleep because I've been really busy, too, I don't want people hassling me. I just want to like sit there, zone out, turn my phone off, watch a film, just chill.

And so I think maybe it's like a social anxiety thing. I don't know. Just being on a plane, I just want to just sit there and enjoy it. I don't mind people saying hello, of course I don't. But now having a baby, I was like, oh, my God, if she starts crying, we're going to be them parents. Yeah, you're going to be their attention. Everyone's looking at us, what are we going to do?

thinking of like what how can i do this i'm like well what if when we get there i'll say to immediately that unfortunately when i booked the flights there's only two seats this way i'm joking obviously i wouldn't do that and so anyway i was like do you know what babe you need a holiday i need a holiday let's do this and we did and to be fair we had like every tour you could possibly imagine you know the one you stick on the window and you're spinning it a hundred of times go back to the whole you know the iPad works everyone said you shouldn't do it but it actually works you know I'm sure like you guys we tried everything to not turn on the iPad yeah so we do the book reading we do silly faces we're singing songs we're doing all the things we can

and you just go to know what actually we've only got like 20 minutes left she's getting restless now she wants to get up so stick on miss Rachel we were lucky we missed Miss Rachel we did Did you really? Yeah, Mr. Tumble. We didn't have Miss Rachel either. Oh, Mr. Blippy. Have you seen the Mr. Blippie? Yeah, Blippy as well.

God. Do you know how much money Mr. Blippie's got? He is absolutely. Do you know what? I keep saying this to me. It's just called Blippy, by the way. Not Mr. Blippy. Is it Blippy?

Oh, Mr. Blippie. He's got a net worth of $90 million, Blippie. Wow. Wouldn't it just be amazing? I just would love to see a video, like a real or a video online of him being in the playroom going, hey, guys. And it cuts, he goes, oh, fuck so. I thought I'm going to drop

with a fucking ball pit again. But you know he's like, he's franchised it now. There's just a different blippy. So he doesn't even do it himself anymore. He's just franchised it out. Yeah. And you know what the maddest thing is?

Maybe you guys know this because you're further in. But like, it really calms Maddie down and she genuinely sits there and she watches it. Yeah. And yet I can sit in front of her and I'll be like, let's read a book or let's do this. And I'll say, hello.

And she's just like, go away. I'm interested in you. As soon as I put me his race, Rachel, and she's like that. Wow, who's this woman? They've done a video together. Yeah, yeah, there's a whole bunch of them now. There's like five different characters.

Lippie and Miss Rachel have come together for a kind of... I call McCartney and Beyonce. Yeah. Anyway, going back to the original story. So we got to Teneree. We got on holiday. We literally were there for a couple of days. We were by the pool and someone took a photo of me and Maddie together.

And we've been really protective of like not putting her on social media. But she's on the basis that she's so young. She's only six. months old we don't know what the internet's like and we're like you know it's till she's old enough to sort of say to me daddy i want to be on instagram or whatever we'll have that conversation but i didn't even see it Amelia like saw that's the one thing that sends me mad like i don't like it they do it with me on my own but of my children it's like you can't take photos of children yeah exactly that so i didn't even know i was talking to this lovely we got chatting

this lovely couple and they didn't even make a big thing about knowing who i was they were just chatting to us as parents and as you guys probably know it's so lovely when you meet another a group of parents that are going through the same thing. You know, all the dads do the same lap

on holiday parks, you know what I mean? We were like, oh, how are you doing? Blank it over the top trying to get them to sleep. We got the rocking machine on it.

We're like this, yeah. And then we're going over the pebbles. It's the best bit, this bit, this bit. I didn't, mate, you're right? And anyway,

I was talking to his parent and with Maddie and she was just facing forward and she's looking around and someone took a photo. Anyway, Amelia saw it. And I'd never seen this side of Amelia before. She's like, Oie, I'm like,

what what what did she took a photo she took a phone i went oh yeah yeah i said did she which one i looked around and she'd gone but she'd gone and sat down yeah because she took a photo of you and maddie i went and really pissed me off i was like look babe it's gone now and you know what if you go over there and say to her you know this as well guys if you go over there and tell her oh you've taken a photo of us she said no i didn't cause a problem it's we don't need to worry about she goes no she took a photo of you and maddie and that's bang out of water she shouldn't have our child on her phone i was like i know i know and i go calm down calm down let's just deal with it let's just relax. I wasn't

off to tell it, and you just went and took a photo of someone's random child. I know. It's awful. And so get this right. So I said, so let's move. So we move. Meena's face. She's gone. Like, she's seen red. I'm like, let's just go. So we left. And after a couple of days, it was

a bit of bad weather. We went and sat somewhere else. Anyway, I thought it'd been forgotten about. We're on our, like, daybed whatever. We just sat there chilling and I'm just like chilled with Maddie. Maddie's asleep. I'm like, I can just have a little bit of breather. Mealy goes, she's here. she's here i went where is she she's in the water i'm like okay she goes i'm got to go and say

something i'm like no no no no before i could even stop her and mina's in she swung to her she swims across the pool to the other side and she's like this and i'm like oh my god what you're doing so you know what she's the mom she's my wife yeah she's got something to say let her say it so this woman swims past and then she swims back she goes all right Amelia goes, yeah, you're right. She's like, yeah. She goes, oh, it's a lovely morning. She goes, yeah, a lovely morning when you've got photos of our kids on your phone.

Oh, yes, please. And this woman just went, sorry? She goes, yeah, you took a photo of Ollie and I'm my baby the other day on your phone. And I think that's really out of order. You shouldn't have that photo. And this woman just went, oh, I'm so sorry. She goes, yeah, well, you should be. She goes, I want you to delete it.

And she goes, oh, I'm so sorry. I just wanted to take a photo to show my friend or whatever. Amida goes, well, no, like, you shouldn't be doing that. So Amida had this conversation, and she, this woman felt awful. And she goes, I'm so sorry, you're 100% right. And she deleted the photo. Well, most of the time, they're just over-excited and think, oh, there's no malice in it. There's no malice, but it's not okay, really.

But it's good that Amelia said something, I think. Oh, it was amazing. And you know what? It's one of them things. I said to Amelia, look, this is not going to be the first time. We're going to have to deal with this as we go forward. It used to send me up the war, and I used to nearly have fights for people. like I went you could take a photo of my kids like and then he's like no I haven't I'm like you

have and then you're just arguing then and it's not good that's the thing that infuriates me the most as I said to Amelia I've been in this situation many times where before we had kids or before I was with Amelia I'd be like can you please just not take a photo of me with my mates we're out on a night out you didn't need to take it if you want a photo just come and ask it's as simple as that yeah it's don't mind if they ask but when it's the sneaky ones can I tell you my technique I've got ollie that so with the kids they to be fair most people don't do it as much with the kids anymore, or I will just say, please don't take a fight of me with the kids or whatever. Anyway, so if I'm at a bar with some mates, whatever,

and someone's sneakily filming me and I can see them doing it, I just turn and look straight down the barrel of their phone camera. Not at them. I look straight down the bar of and I just look, I just stare and I don't look angry. I don't mouth anything. I just stare down and then all of a sudden the power's been switched because they've been spined on me. Now I'm spying on them. Woo naggy. We're just naggy little aggy eyes. And they look at their phone and you see them panic.

And then they try and pretend they're just on their phone. Oh. And then they'll never break contact. And then they will put the phone down every time. I'm going to try that technique. Listen, it is part of it's, I don't want to be like a cry baby on here talking about it. It is what it is. I signed up for it.

I know the job I've got. Yeah, but Ollie, this is a podcast about parenting. Anyone else of the street had someone walking up and taking photos of their child. I don't give a fuck if you've been on X Factor or whatever have you done. No one likes that. No one would want a strange person taking a photo of their child. I was in getting showered at a swimming pool and a woman took a photo of me in a shower

with my daughters in the swimming costumes having a shower. I just went, what are you doing? I tell you what, I didn't expect, Rob, to say in this podcast was I don't give a fuck if you've been on X Factor. No one had that sentence. You know what that's going to be, we had Olly Mears on our podcast this week. I don't give a fuck if he did the X Factor.

That's the clip. That's the Stephen Bartlett clip. Olly Merr's face, as Rob says, I don't give a fuck if you did the X-Factor. Find out what Rob said to Olly on our podcast this week. Pure clip, but you're right. Listen, you're 100% right. I was going to ask you.

You and Amelia, obviously, super into fitness, Amelia especially, you know, you're really on it as well. Do you, are you finding time to still do that with the kids? And Amelia especially, because, you know, she's only sort of just recovered from having a baby and she's having another one. and that impact on a woman's body. Like, how has she found, like, fitness and getting back into stuff?

Because, you know, like a bodybuilder? She hates the way, bodybuilder, but it's, no, no, no, but it's, you just can't stop saying things that are going to get clipped up. It's a fitness model, fitness model. She's a fitness model, not body, yeah. Okay, I'm trying to explain it. So when she did this sort of, it's sort of a form of bodybuilding, but obviously the bodybuilders a real kind of like, she would be in the bikini model inside of it.

so it was a bit more less of that real intense. It's more of being lean and muscle. Yeah, which is sort of a different type of competition, basically. But anyway, she, yeah, loves her training. With Maddie, we spoke about this recently, actually, because she hasn't really trained as much during this pregnancy. She lost a bit of motivation. Obviously, it's been quite a handful with having Maddie,

obviously, be so energetic now and the fact that she's starting to get proper heavily pregnant now. So finding the balance in the day, particularly with me being on tour, has been really difficult. So, yeah, she hasn't been training as much. But with me, because I had this tour coming and I wanted it to be the biggest tour

and the best tour I've ever done, me and Amelia just worked. You know, I would get up in the morning at say six o'clock. I would look after the baby for, say, the first couple of hours in the morning, do the breakfast, get a set up, you know, play toys, play games, whatever.

And then Amelia would have a little bit more out of a laying in the morning. So she'd get up at eight, say. And then once Amelia came over, I would say to, right, now I'm going to go into the gym. So we just had a bit more of a routine. We just communicated that. And immediately understood that I needed to train and get myself ready for the tour.

So we just got in a good routine. But unfortunately, yeah, and for Amelia, she just lost a little bit of motivation with that. It's just biology. Your body's not getting pregnant, is it? You know what I mean? Exactly. You can nip out and do that. But if you've, like, just given birth and then you're growing another baby,

it's just, it's so difficult for the women. And it really wasn't planned. Like we said at the end of the last year, we said, oh, you know, we'll start trying in January. and we're so blessed it happened pretty much straight away so bless amelia she just finally got to christmas and she loves christmas she was like oh i can have some drinks and she did you know drinking again and just feeling herself she was back in the gym and then literally in january she was like i'm pregnant again and i was like and she goes i'm so happy she goes but i was just finally getting a bit of my life back she goes i'm obviously delighted to be pregnant and she she's been on this journey

but i think once this pregnancy's out of the way i think amelia is very much aware that she wants to get back into training again and then you know she absolutely loves it we've got to we love it you know because they're close in age they play so well so by the time the youngest is two like 18 months too which is not far away for you guys there'll be little gang together playing and all to you as well this is like more of a personal question because obviously it's well documented that you and your brother haven't had the greatest of relationships especially since the tv stuff and things like that how do you feel now because i always find that my past is replayed to me with my own children if that makes sense.

So you're going to be looking at two kids that you imagine. You know, you really want to have a great relationship for a long time and that you haven't always had that. How does that feel? I know it's difficult because you haven't had the second one yet. 100%. Like, it really does.

My brother had kids probably 10, 11 years ago. So he's been a dad's and a husband a lot longer than I have. And, you know, I suppose now I've become a parent. Yeah, you see things completely different. You see how, like, how my relationship was with my own parents. I can't speak on behalf of Ben, obviously, because we don't speak. But that relationship with your parents, for example, my mum was my birthday recently. And I sent my mum a message on my birthday.

I said, mum, it's my birthday today. But I want to take this opportunity to say thank you for being my mum for the last 41 years. I'm sorry for all the conversations and the moaning and the difficult times that I must have given you in the early stages of my life. But I just want to say thank you for all the support and everything you've given. me and you've given me the best life I could ever imagine. So thank you. Thank you on the 14th of May, 1984, when you gave birth to twins, you know, not just one, but two boys. And my mum blessed as she rung me and she was crying and she was just like, I've never had a message like that before, but it made me appreciate being a parent of how much our parents have done for us. And yeah,

with my relationship with Ben, you know, that's one of the things that me and Amelia spoke about actually having a second baby. Yeah. Because there was three of us growing up, me and my sister and my brother and obviously my amelia had three so we were like we want that brother and sister you know love and we want them you know if it's a boy or a girl if it's two girls but yeah with me and my brother it's always a tricky one because with blokes it's a weird thing we was i think with blokes when you have an argument with one of your mates you might not talk for a couple of days and you'll see him yeah you'll just hug it out and go oh wow yeah that's stupid weren't it yeah it was fuck yeah fuck let's just move on whatever it was it's done and with me and ben it we've never actually

seen each other. And I've always said, our lifestyles are very different and I do love him very much. I think when we actually one day getting a room together, it'll be one of them, I've always got this feeling and I hope he feels the same, that it's just crossing that bridge. And we've both tried to make it work. It hasn't worked. If Liam and Noel can do it, Olly. Exactly. Exactly. But like, I always believe that when we actually finally meet, and there's been a lot that's gone on anyway, which I won't talk about. But actually, I think when we finally get to see each other face to face, I think it will probably

just be like, oh, that's silly, wouldn't it? We haven't spoken for fucking 20 years. And he'll be like, yeah, actually, what did that happen? And I think hopefully we can hug it out and move on. But definitely, I mean, someone said this me once, you know, he can't choose your family, can you? So you can choose your friends?

Yeah. And with family, I mean, I've had arguments with my family, as people know, and I've had disagreements and we all, you know, but your family, you love them so much. But at the same time, you don't, you don't necessarily have to like them, do you know what I mean? And it's really hard, and most people listen to this will understand if they've had arguments with their families that always have that love for every single one of my family.

But over the years, we've had arguments. And you're like, well, I can't actually never speak to you again. Because obviously at one point, we are going to see each other again. There's always be that connection. There's always going to be that connection. And twins particularly, like, has made me realize being a, being a parent now, just how special that must have been for my family to have two little twin boys. Searchlight Pictures presents The Roses, only in theaters August 29th.

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well weird enough amelia has twins in her family i obviously have twins in my family and this is not just me and ben there was other twins before us so that's the first thing amelia said i think she was more petrified of having twins because i was more like this would be special and amazing so literally when we went for the scan in january we're having twins she went no it's just one heartbeach she went oh thank god I was slightly disappointed I was like oh damn it twins would have been cool but I tell you what if you go again it's a real gamble

because the difference between two and four would be a fucking step up we spoke about it because amelia's actually said this as so many people she's seen they go through the third end up having twins so we're like oh yeah you're not sure about that now that we've got to two we're

two's a nice number exactly two really is a nice number yeah this is a thing that I want to talk to you about baby brain is that something you guys have like is this a serious thing because i swear i'm normally really sharp on like things yeah but since having a baby it's like i forget things all the time i'm sometimes because there's so many more things in your head before you have a kid you've only really got you and then maybe a partner you realize how easy it was beforehand honestly i've got to tell you about this trip recently right so this is our first weekend away for a wedding for amelia's step-sister so we're going away for

for the weekend, amazing, like really excited about it. And Amelia's got a list like this, full list, tick boxes of everything she needs. I mean, literally, we went for three days. It felt like we were going for a month. It was so much stuff. So I said to Amelia, look, if we're going to go, we've got to go super early. As soon as the baby gets up at 6 o'clock, we'll get her in for breakfast. We'll play for her for a little bit.

We'll get the car completely packed. We'll get her in the car. We'll get some milk in her and then she'll sleep for at least two hours in the car. And then we've got a bit of time, get to a service station, repeat. How long is the drive, Ollie? You've got to go? Down to Plymouth, it's like four and a half hours. Oh, God, yeah. And the worst part of that journey is you're end up in Plymouth.

No wonder, no footballers will fucking join us. She's a big Plymouth fan. So I'm thinking, right, two hours we've got in the car, you know, so in the morning, I'm like everywhere. I've got the big bag that's got everything. I've got the nappy bag. I've got Amelia's bags. I've got everything. I've got Maddie's toys. I've got every, I mean, honestly, I've smashed it.

I have literally, like a Rubik's cube, my car is stacked perfectly. Like, don't touch it, babe, don't touch it. I've got it, I've got it. Everything's done. We've got in the car, 8 o'clock, bang on the money, shut the door, we're driven, right? We've got to a service station, if she slept, we've done everything to a tea. I've cracked it. Literally, as I've come off the motorway into Plymouth, we've drove for four and a half hours.

I've literally got 10 minutes from Amelia's house. haven't got anything for myself I've left everything I was supposed to pack I've left my wedding suit I've got no toilet trees all I've got is literally a crap cruddy gym outfit

that I'd worn that morning for I'll just get changed back I forgot everything for me had you packed it and just left the bag I left it all here at the house so what did you do genuinely you didn't have to drive back

no no no I got to Plymouth and I went down to Drake's Circus the shopping centre Oh, yeah. What the fuck's that? You've made something else up again. No, really is.

Great Circus, Jedberg and Shinobo. Have you not heard of Francis Drake, Rob? I didn't know you're from Plymouth, Josh. You actually from Blooming. I'm not from Plymouth. I'm from between Plymouth and Exeter. Nice. So anyway, I got down there and I've got onto the drive.

And Amelia's like, I swear down, she'd never admit it. But I swear she's laughing underneath her skin. She's like, Lou would love it. If that happened to be in Lou, she'd absolutely fucking love it. So Amelia's trying to attack someone, don't talk to me. Don't talk to me. I'm not, I'm not in the mood. She went, well, no, just don't talk to me.

We got there a really good time to be fair. I can't remember what time we got there. And we didn't have to leave till like three o'clock or something. Oh, she was traveling light, you know, pop into Drake's passage and he's away. Yeah, so, we got there at a good time. And I remember we got like two hours or so, two or three hours. I said to, babe, don't talk to me. Way, bless her, her stepdad comes out.

And he's like, you're right, mate. I went, no, no, Michael. He went, look, I've got spare pants if you need him. I went, mate, don't. I'm not, I'm not wearing my stepdad's packed up. And bless him, I drove down to Drake's circus, and managed to buy what I needed. Yeah.

I called down and we cracked the weekend, but... There's a shopper system with a fucking incredible anecdote there. Like, Polly Mers turned up. Bolli Mers turned out with no clothes. It was the most stressful thing in it. And it's obviously a family joke now every time we travel down. It's like, have you got your stuff? I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then you get home and you can see it all there, sat there, waiting. Where was it in your house when you got home? Oh, it was so frustrating. I remember I hung it on the back of the utility door just as we was leaving so it was there I walked straight past it two three times I eyed it I pressed it was everything there my shoes were there my toiletry back everything was there it was beautiful it was all set looking the bullocks and then yeah I absolutely know at least you've got it the right way round though you're prioritising amelia and the baby yeah exactly yeah you're a good man

Ollie it's been amazing we're going to ask you one last question we ask everyone what's the one thing that um your partner amelia does as a mother that you're amazing I could not do this about you. I'm in awe of you. And also one thing she does as a mum that actually annoys you a little bit. And if she was to listen, she might go, yeah, he's got a point there.

That is a bit annoying. Are we talking as a parent or just as a general person? I mean, if you want to rip apart her as a person as well as a mother, that's on you. What's the great thing about Amelia as a parent? I don't want to get too soppy. Get soppy, go on, mate. Honestly, genuinely, I said this to her yesterday.

There's not one floor I can give Amelia as a parent. I saw this guy chatting the other day on social media and he said it right. He said, you know, one of the biggest decisions of your life is picking the right woman to have family with and to fall in love with and make the right decision. Genuinely, I waited a long time

to find Amelia. When I did, I just knew she would be the perfect wife for me and the perfect mum. And soon as Maddie came along, from day one, Amelia's been unbelievable, genuinely. I couldn't have done this with anyone else. She's just great at everything. And the one thing I thought Amelia would struggle with is she's not

patient but she's really worked on that because i said to her just be patient baby patient you're the one thing you don't do in general life she's always like rushing yeah but with the baby she's so patient so great and like i said i've been away quite a bit with maddie because of touring and stuff and now obviously this year with the other tour that i've been doing she's just been brilliant so i can't say anything negative she's been absolutely fantastic there's not one thing that gets you a little she leave bottles out does she you know it could be a little thing like that just Oh, hang on a minute, yeah, they're the positives. They're the positives.

The negative thing I would say, and I always said this to Amelia, is that I never wanted to live in a house that was quiet. Yeah. And when Maddie goes to sleep, I mean, she literally couldn't be further away than the lounge. Like, she's right tucked up in, like, the bedroom upstairs. Like, she wouldn't be able to hear a conversation, and I'm being told to shut up because it's too loud.

Can you shut up? You think that's just an excuse to tell you to shut up? I think so, yeah. But she's just like, why you have to be so loud? I'm like, I've got to shut the door to go out to the garage because you've asked me to put the bins out. Do you need to slam the plates down into a dishwasher, the baby's asleep?

I'm like, babe, come on. Like, we can't live like this every single day. So that's probably the one thing. Amelia will probably say when she listened to this back, there's more. But genuinely, like across the board, she's phenomenal. The negative of Amelia is that you're too loud. I think I'm too loud.

You know, once you fucked your voice up, mate, and I had to stop the guy halfway through in Glasgow. My dad's there for, he's getting there. So maybe I'm just getting like my dad's, you know what I mean? Ollie, it's been an absolute joy. Cheers, mate. Thank you so much. Enjoy the gigs over summer, but really, good luck.

We need you back on in about a year's time when you've got two under two. Oh, please. Unless it's as easy again, in which case we're never booking you again. That would just be the chat. I'll walk on and you guys, right, before we go any further, how's it been? If I go, do you know what, it's been brilliant? You go, right, that's great. Here's the tall dates.

Goodbye. Genuinely, guys, I appreciate it. you know, being a parent and being a dad's one of the best jobs. I absolutely love it. It's hard. It's tough. It's difficult at times. But it genuinely is the best thing in the world.

So I appreciate you guys bringing the laughter with it and just have me on to talk about it. It's been great. So thanks. It's been a pleasure. Ollie Murs. What a lovely man. Ollie is such a nice guy, Ollie. I've met him a few times over the years.

He's just genuinely such a nice bloke. You know what I mean? We're actually the way he's come through of like ITV and. X-Factor can sometimes create slight monsters, but he is just so on 12 and normal. So these albums out in October, so new album from Ony Mer's out in October. We're going to go now, and we'll be back on Tuesday, but in the meantime, Rob's going to tell me who he thinks the top three monsters X-Factor has created is.