Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S12 EP2: Prince Naseem Hamed

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the former world champion boxer - Prince Naseem Hamed. Released on the 9th Janaury 2026 - 'Giant ' Based on the remarkable real-life story of legendary British-Yemeni boxing champion Prince Naseem "Naz" Hamed. Charting his inspiring rags-to-riches underdog tale from his humble beginnings in Sheffield to becoming champion of the world and a global sporting icon in the 1990s, the film explores the unlikely and tender relationship between Naz and his Irish boxing trainer Brendan Ingle; and the instrumental role that Ingle played on his road to success.   Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please subscribe and leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show with any correspondence, kids intro audio clips, small business shout outs, and more.... here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] Follow us on instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@parentinghell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello you're listening to Parenting Hell with Aula. Can you say Rob Beckett? Bishop. Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Good girl. Can you say Josh Whittickham?

Gosh Widdickm. You are so God. I love that laugh. Let's hear that laugh again. You are so God. It's like a kitchen or bathroom though, echoy. This is my 23 year old month. Aura doing your introduction.

My husband and I love the pod and you kept us laughing over the past two years. Stay sex. Didn't need to be so specific about... Are we listened for a year before that and didn't laugh once? But you have picked it out.

Or that we had a gap in the middle. Stay sexing relatable. Bethany, 393 months, Wakefield. From the south, accent doesn't match. There we go. Wakefield. Nice. Talking of people from the north.

Oh. Prince Nassim Hamid today. This is exciting. But this is our first visualised podcast together. Yes, because... So should we explain where we are? Yeah, so we don't want to make it's annoying for people that just listen, but we are doing these Invision now, and we did have a studio set up.

We've bought a studio, we've pitted it out. Say we, Michael's done everything. Michael's done it all. But the electrics have failed there for some reason. On the first day. So now we are in a last minute random studio in Soho, surrounded by amps and guitars. Yeah.

So this isn't going to be our normal set up. We haven't got proper lighting. We've got two lamps that look like they're from Habitat and one that looks like it's from a kind of 70s living room. Yes, and loads of guitars. So going forward, we will be in... But if there is anything more perfect for this podcast than the shambles of us being in a temporary studio for the first interview...

With a man who, let's be honest, we were scared of meeting. Yeah, a man who... He's only five at three, we could still beat us up and also is a sort of intimidatingly charismatic, confident and also quite intriguing because he sort of disappeared and now he's come back out on the PR trail for this new film. Yeah. And we're the only podcast he's doing and he was very clear about that to us. Yes. He's a, for me, a hero of mine growing up. So to see him in the flesh was quite magical. It is an interview like no other we've done. I was worried about it. About

five minutes in, I went, oh no, this is going to be brilliant. Also, I said his name wrong. No, but I think that was... I thought his name was Nazim Mohammed, but he's not, it's Nassim. Yeah, but because he's called Naz. I'd assume that the S was a Z. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. I would say as well, from all the boxes we've interviewed,

I'd say that he's really into his children and into family life, which you don't always get. And you're not really expected of him. He loved it. And we should say he brought his wife who was in the gallery. Yeah. And he brought his son who was in the same room as us. And you will hear chipping in throughout.

Yes. From his son. His eldest son, Sammy, who's 27. Here is Prince Nassim Hamad. Enjoy. Prince Nazim Hamad, welcome to parenting hell. So let me just correct you so you know exactly how to say it. Go on then, sorry.

It's Naseem. Naseem. Yeah, it's Nassim. So when I was young, as a nickname, it was Naz. Right. And I look, I still love Naz. Apologies. What a terrible way to start.

No, no, it's cool. You didn't know. You didn't know. No, I did not because I thought everyone called you Naz. And I thought it would be too, like, you know, personal to go in, all right, Naz. But now, it's not. It's not too personal. No, okay.

It's cool in the game. Are you nervous about this interview, Rob? Well, I fight that... No, he's not. He's not nervous. I can tell he's not there. I am the biggest boxing fan. If you are a boxing fan, you are a Nassim.

Even if you're not a boxing fan. Yeah, exactly. But if you are, there's certain fighters in world boxing that when they come into a room, it turns you to like a little excited schoolboy again. And Naz is one of them. Brings back memories. Yeah, when you came in.

you would be very complimentary to me which hopefully you can repeat on I'm gonna do now I'm gonna do now if you're listening have a guess what he's about to compliment Rob on No they would never ever know I mean when I

When I walked in And even before when I found out I was doing this podcast Which I don't do many podcasts I don't know if you know this I know that yeah I actually said that I've been watching Rob I've watched his hole come up

And I was gonna say to you To both of you honest I'm not just saying this. I want to congratulate both of you on all your success because it's good to see young, just young talent and just doing their stuff and just making do. And I know you want more. Yeah.

So it's good. It's good young guys. You're living your life. You're doing what you need to do. And that's why I'm congratulating you today. and saying, I've seen you on loads of stuff. I'm enjoying this smoke being blowing up my ass. We're going to have to move on.

But what I would say is without people like you when I watched when I was younger, I wouldn't have had the confidence to go on. But seeing someone like you go from nothing on the streets of Sheffield, putting up with racism in the street, to go up to be loved by the whole country. It was an incredible rags to Rich's story

that resonated with a whole generation of working class people. It's stuff like that. People have often come to the prince of... Listen, I swear to it. I'm not, I'm not, ragging when I say to you. Please do because that's when you're at your best. I'd love to say it was just by the whole country. It's not.

No. I'm like Wi-Fi. I'm all over the world. You need to understand, Rob. When I was doing my thing, it was global, baby. Yeah. Global. But let's talk about where you are now. How many kids have you got now? So I've got three beautiful boys. I've got one with me at the moment. moment. Sammy's in here watching. It's the first time he can check to see if you're talking.

Sammy's in the house. So he's my eldest. How old Sammy? He's 27. And he's a professional fighter. And he's very good too. He fights like me. So he's exciting. His first fight, you just need to watch his first fight because

his entrance in front of thousands of people. And I was there watching my son like, thinking my oldest son's going to make his first ever. debut, not even as an amateur. He didn't fight as an amateur. So watching him as a pro for his first fight and it was in

Dublin, it was in a big arena. You fought in that arena? I did fight in that arena, you're right. Do you feel nervous watching your son fight? Not really, no. Well, I've got confidence within his ability and I know he can

hit. Obviously, he comes from good stock. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because you had a great quote when, obviously, any son of a former fighter, especially the statue you got to, there's that question of like,

is he going to be as good as you and stuff like that? You had a brilliant response to that question. I just said, who's going to be as good as me? Me, hopefully. The thing is, I really meant it. And you know what? I'm joking. Yeah.

You've got to be. some kind of super done to be as good as me. I don't give up. You can swear? And I know that my style just had it was more of like a martial artist style and it wasn't just a normal boxing style.

It was like you get hit from places that you didn't even know exist. Here's a question for you then because you've got such a clear person. Like when you say I'm not bullshitting you, we know, like, but you are, you know, the Prince Nassim that we know from like the last... You don't change, do you?

No. If you are who you are, you don't change? Are you like this at home when you're parenting? Or is there a second kind of... Oh, that's a good question. I mean, my son's right here. He could tell you himself.

No, I'm not really different. I mean, there is a very, very religious side to me. Yeah. And I'm really happy about that. And I honestly can say to you, the person I am today, is the person I've always wanted to be. Yeah.

When you're bringing up sons, and that's the only reason I brought this up because parenting is important. I'm an ambassador of Islam. I love my faith. So how would you feel if the boys, as they got older, I were like, look, I don't know that's your thing, but I'll be religious,

but I'm not as committed to being as connected as you are. Impossible. Impossible. Impossible. We're getting impossible from Sammy. Well, the thing is, when he says impossible, He doesn't mean impossible in a bad way where for him personally,

he's experienced a life of letting him do what he wanted to for a certain amount of time. Yeah. And then all of a sudden things changed. And that change within my oldest son brought it down to my other two sons, which was amazing because he became a serious older brother. What, through his faith? One a million percent. Yeah. Loads of boxers, especially the highs you went to and the attention you got.

And you love, you know, you love, from the outside, you look like you love attention, you love showing off, you love being the centre of attention. But after boxing, that goes naturally because you're not filling arenas, you're not fighting. But most boxes struggle with that. It feels like you've gone back to your home and your family and you're not as, you could go on every show ever if you wanted to. Is it your faith that's keeping you... I come see you, Rob. Yeah. Is it me then?

Is that me? So when you say it's contractually advised. Let me take you back then for a second on what you've just said. There was a time in my life after like I stopped boxing where I just wanted to be with my boys. I wanted that input to put in the kids and to bring them up, to have that time with them and spend time with my wife and travel with them.

And we did, we travelled all over. We had some amazing holidays, amazing experiences. Once that time got to a stage where the boys then started boxing themselves, then obviously I wasn't going to leave that. I wasn't just going to say, look, crack on, I've got nothing to do with it. And it's not even that I've got loads to do with it now. Like, I'm not one of them dads that will go and watch them train all the time, or even they've got to stand on their own two feet.

That's what I've said. but there came a time where people start making movies about you yeah yeah do you think now the boys have grown up then that you've got that little bit of energy again to be a bit more in the public eye

or do more things like projects yeah a little bit but not even just like it's my time my time came I had my time where I was chilling and probably chilled way too much I mean everybody wants to like jump on so many things when they finish the careers like whether it's TV whether it they

don't want to miss out and the money's like so important and where I I did all right do I mean I was I was good I was what I did in my career I was financially secure for the rest of my life and I didn't have to go on all these so many shows like you've not seen me on all these shows yeah because you've come from very humble beginnings. Yeah. And that's engendered in you various kind of characteristics. And then your sons, obviously, as you say, you're kind of set up for life. Yeah. How do you deal with that situation in terms of these guys, thank God, from the very start, we sent them out to work and they've experienced doing, they're experienced different kinds of jobs to know that they, where'd you send them?

Well, Sammy's right there. I mean, he worked in a few... You wouldn't want to go through the CV, trust me. You wouldn't want to go... Oh, I've never known any CV. I want to go through more. Sorry. So what is it, Sammy? Where'd you got? Retail for three years. Retail three years. Casper's ice cream parlour. Oh, not Casper's. So you were forced to go and earn money and work proper jobs?

I had no money, so I had to go out and get my own money. Right. So talk us through... I'm going to give you the reason why. Can I ask what you... Obviously, you provide them with shelter and food and stuff like that, but was there no pocket money? No. What did they get?

I can't remember. Did you get pocket money? They got money every now and again, but my whole thing was once they reached a certain age, they were men. They weren't just going to just sit around home with a handout thinking they were going to get loads of money. I made money from a very young age. I was like champion of Europe.

The whole of Europe at the age of 19-20. Yeah. So I was making some serious money from a young age. By the age of 21, which is still very, very young, I was already a millionaire

with a black American Express. He was in Casper's put on telling. And he used to say to me, when I was your age, I was world champ. That's right. That's right. You should say to him, I was well champion your own.

So it got to the time where I wanted them to feel it because I had younger brothers and still got younger brothers. One of them passed away. Allah have mercy on him. I realized by buying my brother's houses and taking away the burden of a mortgage, but giving them more money and businesses and different things, they never ever really worked

and it kind of ruined them and I thought this is not going to happen with my three boys I want my boys to understand what a day's grafts like a week's graft a month Sammy spent a good amount of time working hard and then

his brothers saw him have normal jobs I remember one of my younger brothers saying how can we go out and get a job one we're your brother. People to realize where the brother of and I'm like,

you guys have got to work. You can't think like that. So your brothers would take that to you? Can I just ask a quick question? And it hurt me. So as my kids. An annoyed? When he was like, is there part of you?

I love that question. Give it him. You know what the truth is? Me and my brother Adam were pretty lively kids anyway and my dad used to say to us the more money, the more mischief. and if you've got any money, you can't really get up to that.

So it was a little bit like that. Yeah, if you worked hard, you get more money, you could do more things. So obviously, after a good amount of time of watching them work, now they're not doing them kind of jobs. Now they're like professional sportsmen. Yeah. And they're earning dough and they're doing well. Do you regret giving your brothers that money then?

The only thing I really regret, do you know, do you know what I really regret? And I mean bad. Go on. Is that when I was really young, I didn't always do my five prayers a day. In my heart, that upsets me. That's a regret. If I ever had a regret.

But you don't beat yourself up over that. You accept you a young. I don't beat myself up over it. Last person you want to be beating up. But if I have a regret, I think to myself, there ain't regrets about stuff that you're thinking about. It's like a personal thing. If you're 21 and you're only money and your brothers are there,

you think you're doing the right thing by your family. Yeah, I was doing the right thing by my family. That's a class. That's a working class expectation. Where if one person does well, the rest should profit. It's not just working class expectation. It's like just empathy. Do you know what I mean?

You've just done that as a nice thing. Yeah, but I think when, if you come from no money in that house, someone would come home with something and it would be shared. You know, like... You know, it's really funny because I've never really disheartedly. discuss this with anybody. We're good interviewers. I know.

Have you ever heard me discuss it before? It's something though, but it's dictated your future behaviour because you learn that, you know, people think that having a bit of extra money will solve all the issues, but actually if you've worked hard yourself and you've achieved it, it'll be much, you know, much better for you

to feel than be handed out. Listen, the whole thing is Sammy, Adam, and Sol need to know and now they do and understand the value of a pound. They need to know the value of money. And I know that he knows the value of money now.

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The little will. It feels like I'm a DJ mixing. Oh, very nice. Now, Josh, have you set yourself? any new resolutions? Yes, I have. Yes, I'm trying to get trim again. Like, trim. Yeah, like when I did Strictly. Do you remember how trim I was then? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're strictly body. When you did strictly for a week and a half for the Christmas special. Yeah, yeah, when I was trim for a week and a half. Well, did you know, the thing is about New Year's resolutions? Have you heard about

Quidders Day? No, tell me about Quitters Day. Well, basically, quitter's day is the second Friday in January. Yeah. That's where most people give up. Oh, that's a bit sad, isn't it? It is sad, isn't it? So what can we do about it? Apple Watch. Go on. Tell me. This little bad, I'm on a fitness journey. Yeah. By the time I'm 40, I want a six-pack. You're already 40? Yeah, I know.

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Does he have, right, do your three sons have? Because if I said the two things you have, you're not just incredible as a boxer, But one of the other reasons why you became such an icon is charisma, right, is that you were unbelievable in interviews. You've got kind of a magnetic kind of personality. And still. And still, totally.

I was talking, we've never... I like that you've acknowledged that. Yeah, we've never interviewed someone who speaks so slowly, but we hang on every word like that. It reminds me of... I was thinking, you remind me, I know this sounds weird, of Liam Gallagher. In that way that you've got that... The young people call it aura.

Ora. Right, yeah. So has that... Yeah, look at that. I used to get on with Liam. How much of that is learned and how much of that is... None of... This is nothing about...

Yeah, this is nothing about... Learning it for me. What you're talking about is something that's just pure natural. And so has it passed on genetically? This is really funny because my sons are a lot like me. A lot like me. especially Sammy I mean I wouldn't say they're exactly

like me but they have it I honestly see them sometimes like I love being in their company I love watching my kids I enjoy together and just smile and laugh like I said to my wife the other day I see my two older

sons having such a laugh and I'm looking at them and I'm thinking that's brilliant man I love that If you shut your eyes now and remember them as a kid, what is the warmest moment in the house of you and the boys? Is that the moment that you remember from that period when you stop boxing? How have we got five years to ask?

I finally come up with a good question like that. You shut your eyes. What's the perfect moment were you and your family in the house? When they were so young, there was one time when they were arguing about who wanted to be Danny Zucco. And that was like, looking at him and I'm thinking you want to be

Danny Zooko come on dudes your dad's a ledge but we let them watch Greece at the time and it was a big thing I remember that

clearly and they were arguing about who it was or who wanted to be that person but I've got loads and loads and lots of memories about my sons and I just, honest, I'm not just saying this, I'm so close to my sons.

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what's it like for the other person in the house? What's it like being married to Naz? Oh, it's murder. I wish, I only wish, I was going to say, I only wish she could just be in here now because she's next to her listening. But if she was in here now, she would, oh my gosh,

you'd rip me apart. I imagine she's the only person in the world that can cut you down in a second. Is that right, Sam? No, no. Listen, this is the truth too. I wasn't only blessed with three beautiful boys. I was best blessed with a beautiful wife

that I've been with for 30 years. Some of it was a little bit challenging. but I love my wife with all my heart man it's it's I've been so looking I wouldn't be able to say what it's like living with me because I ain't looking at it from her point of view I know what it's like living with her and how is that it's easy she's the perfect wife what can I I mean, like I say, I'm blessed. I'm happy. I could never, ever see myself loving anyone,

not even my kids, like I do, my wife. Sorry about that, Sammy. Yeah, I mean, I love my kids, but... I fucking really love my wife. My kids and my kids, though. It's just... How did you meet? It's a different love.

We just met on a random. It's on some kind of... I was only 21. So you were working at this point? I was... That's what I'm saying to you. So I remember meeting my wife on, so I can remember, but she can't.

At June of 1995, and by September, I was world champion. So when I met her in June, when we talk about this, she said, oh yeah, I gave you the look to be world champion, she says, and I, you know,

she's like, half Irish and her dad's from an Irish side which is amazing I love the Irish love going back they're very similar to the Arabs yeah and I'm I'm very proud about being Arab I'm gonna be honest I'm yeah everybody knows I'm a Yemeni yeah but I'm public Yemeni number one I'm not public anyway so for me I've always got on with the Irish yeah I want to go back to Ireland honest I really want to go back and develop boxing more, produce them more. They've had some amazing boxers and trainers, as you see in the film, Giant, Brendan

Ingle. Yeah. You see a huge influence in your career. Irish, Irish boxing trainer. What was it like watching back, you know, because it's weird that the film, I love to film, but a lot of the film is about your relationship with Brendan as opposed to just your career kind of thing. Obviously, it's the film about you.

It is a lot of it. A lot of it is about that. What's it like looking back on that relationship? Now you're so much old. and you're distant from it, where at the time, obviously, it was way more intense. It's funny because there's loads of scenes in the film, and you look at them and you think, that didn't happen. But it's a film, in it?

It's never going to be that accurate unless I was approached from the very beginning, and it had my input. Yeah, because you're not fully involved from the start. My side's not really being told. Yeah. It's all, like you said, it's more of a film, yes, about a fighter and a trainer, but it's more from his side, the story's about his side. But even though it's from his side, the clever thing that I'm really happy about,

the director and the writer and everything of the movie, Rowan, who's a, who's a northern lad? He did something right at the very end of the film, which for me captured the main thing. That's what I want people to really get out of this film because it's like a focal point that it brings the film and it steers it all the way to the final ending of it. And the ending reveals the truth.

How was it when you first said that? That's making you want to watch it. This I know his promo, mate. I've seen the film. And obviously we don't want to sort of ruin the ending. Yeah, let's not ruin the ending. That's what I'm telling you. Yeah, no.

But that you felt that was a... Until that moment, were you nervous watching it? Never nervous. You're such an interesting person because I find on paper, the sort of like egoic, like in front of the camera in the ring. Good word. Show boat in and just this crazy sort of almost like not from this. planet individual. But then when you sit and chat to you, obviously you're still charismatic and

funny, but you're a reserved, more measured guy. It feels like in order to be successful in your boxing career, you had to create this sort of times 10 monster of yourself that isn't actually truly you. See, I get this. This is the real you that when it's partly talking about yourself there, Rob. I feel. Also, you have big teeth, didn't you used to do a lot of jokes about that. But I feel, I feel that that's why you've managed your retirement or ending of boxing so well because that wasn't truly 100% you, this is more of you now. So what you're talking about and referring to right now as we speak is something that I've always been like.

But you would have never known unless you'd have sat down on me when I was a lot younger. Maybe I would have been obviously a little bit different in your 20s. Yeah, of course. But what I'm saying to you is off screen, out of the ring, I'm not that person. No. Because when I'm in that ring, I can't be the same guy that's sat down here talking to you.

Yeah, of course. It's impossible. You have to be that larger than life character. You have to be that person that people want to be like. It was so natural being that person and Salaam, but it wasn't something that I really just put on and thought, oh yeah, I'm going to act this out and style this out good. No, that was that was me all the way.

Yeah. That's why it was so natural to to just be like that. If you want them to remember you in a certain way, maybe do a front flipping, you know, over the top rope to get in, risk everything. Come out on a flying carpet, you know, knock people out from, knock people out from different angles. I never seen it before.

So I know it was unique. Can I pull you off on one thing there? though, Chris Eubank claims that he inspired you because there's a one clip. I don't know if you've seen it on YouTube and Eubank always references this where it's in like a sports hall and he knocks someone out and he's prancing around and showboating and there's a young Naz looking through the ropes at him. It's true. So there is a young Naz, but that young Naz is the same guy that he was in awe of.

When he came to my gym, I remember him saying to me when he was watching me, dancing, doing my thing, doing my boxing skills, I'm going to be honest, were on a whole different level to Chris Hupanks and his son. That's the truth. But I admired and I enjoyed watching him

and liked what he did, but when he turned to me at a young age in the gym, and he went, nothing. We all wondered whether you do the voice. How do I get nimble on my feet? And I thought, I don't really hear the word nimble. I said, Chris, you just need to relax.

And, you know, you just need to, you know, be confident and just enjoy that movement and whatever. And so if Chris Eubanks come down to the gym, and I'm not lying when I tell you this, he got battered every day. Every day. Well, because he was like, obviously a showboat, Eubank, but he, you know, he was. more so in his press conferences and after the fight and before the fight, whereas you were doing it with your footwork and your movement in the ring all the time, where you went was a little bit more sort of like, you know, it's good stamina and tough.

We was different. I mean, look, there was an issue about, at one time, about the vault over the road. And like, we did that down at the gym, but then obviously some of us took it a step further. And then obviously we developed the flip. the front flip over the top rope. And like, I won't be the first one to say to you,

oh, I developed that and I did that and it was all about me and I made that up. No, I tell you the truth, we had a great fighter in our gym that I'd grown up with from a kid called Ryan Rhodes. And he was the first one to do it. Right. So I have to give him the credit. But I can say he didn't have the balls to do it in a professional fight. Yeah.

So it's all right being able to do it in. the gym. Yeah. Because if you do the front flip over the top rope and you go over on your ankle, it's like, fights over. Yeah.

Get out of the ring. You've got no reason to be there. You've lost. And plus, I don't know if you know, but the gloves. Yeah, they don't help. Not much grip. The thumbs are attached.

So you can't put your thumb around the rope and hold it tight. So you have to balance. You have to balance with your thumbs and your fingers, like, and push it down and be perfect and get it right. And these things that we remember, because we were there at the time, the only person that wasn't there at the time in this room is your son. When he's growing up, when your three sons are growing up,

how much do you make them aware of what you've been through? How much are you just a dad and then you think they'll come to it themselves? Like, how much does your career bleed into the family life? Do you know what I mean? I speak to them, but not. Not so much loads about the career and my experiences through the career. I prefer to speak to them about life. They're good though.

Sammy's calling the game. What do you want to say, Sammy? Obviously we know though. You're aware of it? Yeah. But when you was little, was he showing you on YouTube or old videos? Yeah. Oh, and I'm still doing now.

Oh, no, no. We're not going to take that away. Sometimes I'll sit them down. Everyone wants to be like the dad, but when your dad's like, The super duper kid. You really want to be like you don't do. It's really like, we've never done this with a kid in the room before, because you're in my eye line slightly.

Yeah. Sorry. I'm like, you won't know this, but you're looking at him with a smile on your face and a kind of respect that is really like heartwarming. It's a lovely relationship to see. We're close. We're so close. I mean, we don't go on like father and son.

We like travelling. and experience in different countries and, you know, seeing different cultures and whatever. Yeah. See, I had my sons at a young age. How old were you? So when Sammy was born, I was like 23, 24. What's amazing about that is I wanted to be able to grow up with my sons.

Yeah. Myself grow up with them at the same time and enjoy life with them from a young age. And then all of a sudden, level out in regards of I'll be obviously double their age and they'll be in the 20s but we're like

we're like best friends yeah so that's why you can see him now in a way where he's just yeah because you were taught at 28 how much were you doing with the kids when you were still boxing was it like because it's your limited during camp yeah one of the things was

I had to leave home for big periods of times of like whether it's eight weeks, nine weeks, ten weeks, whatever. And that would be a bit of a killer. So did that influence your decision to stop? That was one of the big things for me. That was, because after a period of time,

I just thought leaving the kids again. One of the biggest things was, like we always wanted kids where there wasn't much between them in years. So they could grow up together. So like Sammy's younger brother, not younger. but his younger brothers, they're just two years apart. Yeah. But once he was born, I was in training camp, and I just...

So you missed the bad. No, no, I was with him and I'd seen him or whatever. But then as soon as he were born, I had to literally get on a plane and go to training camp. So by the time I'd left him and came back, he was already like nearly three months old. It was like a huge change of a new... newborn to do you know what I mean so that it killed me that

I'm a family man what advice would you give to a boxer retiring or football or an athlete or comedian or comedian what advice what because they make because it's such a part of people's identity what sport they played you know

they're retiring in their 30s you seem very happy and measured what advice would you give to those people that go into that retirement and wondering what am I now firstly then they need to understand who they are You need to be comfortable within yourself. You need to understand the identity of your own, of who your parents are.

Have you been brought up right? If you haven't, bring your kids up right. Understand that this whole journey of life is not just pure and simple. There's going to be ups and downs. You need to understand how to deal with things when things happen or why things happen. I know you're worldwide like Wi-Fi, but if I met you in a bar and I didn't know you are, and I said, you won't meet me in a bar. Well, wherever you are, right, near the bar, on the beach, wherever.

And I say, who are you, oh, who are you then? What do you do? Yeah. How do you answer that now? Great question. Who are you? What do you? What do you do? Like, I say, oh, hi, I'm Rob. What's your name? What do you do? I just tell you go on YouTube, what are you doing?

So what are you doing as well, well? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. What the week, series 11? I get a word No, I would say I would say look I always say firstly that

I know you never heard me say that I'm retired but I'm retired How can you be retired? You're young, you don't work, what did you do? I used to be a world champion boxer but not any ordinary

world champion boxer I was one of the best. I'm a Hall of Famer. I'm a go-getter. Game changer. Jaw dropper. Showstopper. I say to them.

Do you know what? Imagine being stirred there and going, I just thought he was going to say he worked in IT. No, I know that it's there was. You definitely have got a different, like, a relationship at home because you were getting into the rhythm of that old boxer, and then you saw your son and it brought you back down to being done again. A hundred percent.

Because you couldn't fully commit because you knew he was laughing. Because he's crazy. Yeah. And you know what? I love that. Yeah. I want him to cringe. Okay, so the final question is what one thing?

What's the one thing your wife does as a parent that makes you go, that's really annoying. I wish you didn't do that. And if you were to listen to this, you might go, yeah, he's got a point. And then what is the other thing she does where you go, I'm in awe of her. And I'm so lucky and blessed to have her as the mother of my children. We rarely do this with the wife in the studio. Yeah. I might answer the second one.

Alicia. Alicia, yeah. Alicia is listening. Alicia Elizabeth. I might answer the second question first. She's an unbelievable mom. Honest. She'll go all out to be the best mom.

To always make the best decisions. My sons are so close to their mom. It's untrue. And I've heard them talking. about their mom on interviews. And they just mentioned such good things. And she's had to put up with so much. I'm not going to, I'm not going to like,

that dude right there sat there. Yeah. Oh my God. Out of my three, he's being the killer. He's been, like, I'm telling you now. Yeah, he seems really sweet. It was doing so well.

But I'm going to be honest, he wasn't easy, Sammy. When he was a kid and going through them, like, teenage, mid-teenage. It weren't easy. It wasn't easy, man. But she coped better than me. And what about the one thing that frustrates you with her being a parent? The one thing that frustrates me about my wife being a parent, honest I'm not just saying this

I'm not trying to paint an unbelievable picture that she's absolute perfect there's nothing on the top of my head that I can think of that really bugs me that's an issue in the house I'm thinking I wish she didn't do that yeah

you can switch your hand to Sammy what's the most annoying thing about Sammy right now though for me he's the perfect older brother his brothers my sons look up at him in a way like Yeah, he's our older.

And also now he knows he doesn't have to give him any money after what you said. I'm actually a... I'm actually... I'm actually... I'll give up a seat, Sammy, because I want the viewers to see. Come and see Sammy quickly. And then, tell us what you think of your dad's performance on this.

You happy with what he said? Any problems with it? Oh, well, there's going to be loads. If there's two things, my pops can do, it's talk, I'm fighting it. He's just got it, I mean. But it's like you said, it's like he talks so slow that you're hanging on to every word and he's so intense. And not even just as a father as a mentor, every word that comes out of his mouth.

You have to hold onto it as like... Especially if you're a fighter. I want to do what he did. Yeah. Exactly the way he did it, even though I'm never going to be able to. But anything that comes from him, whether it be his mannerisms or his speech or anything. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

I just imagine him. shut there trying to do that hands stuff. Cheers, thanks, thank you so much. Cheers, Dan. Anytime. Amazing.

Prince Nassim. Yes, I loved it. I loved it. I loved how much he's into his family life. Yeah, loved it. Can I just say, I don't like to blow my own trumpet, but how good was my segue

from him talking about loving Irish people to me segueing into his film, which is about him and his Irish boxing trainer, that he had arguments with, and that's what most of the film's about. and we could get into that little chat without it being eggy or tense. Exactly.

It was wonderful. Super. Through the eye of a needle. But I love that. That, for me, it was a dream as a fan of, I just wish, I'm so annoyed I didn't have like a glove I could get him to sign or something. Anyway.

I think I want to be prints and the seam, haven't it? Yeah, well. Did you just fart? Bonnets, was it, Michael. That old trumpeting. Definitely farted. Yeah. It's been a long day.

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