Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S9 EP43: A rat ran up my leg

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice and of course, tales of parenting woe. Because
Starting point is 00:00:29 let's be honest, there are plenty of times when none of us know what we're doing. Get groceries delivered across the GTA from real Canadian Superstore with PC Express. Shop online for super prices and super savings. Try it today and get up to $75 in PC optimum points. Visit superstore.ca to get started. Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Can you say Rob Beckett? What Beckett? Can you say Josh Whitacombe?
Starting point is 00:00:59 That's a kid. Say... Beckett! Beckett, Beckett, Beckett! What's his name? Beckett! Say, Becca. Becca, Becca, Becca. Becca. Say Becca. Just a chicken. Just a chicken named Becca. Absolutely. That's one of my faves. That's Paul Merson trying to pronounce the name of a new foreign footballer.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Hi Michael. We've been sending the intro for parents. Hi, Michael. We've been sent the intro for parents. Oh, sorry. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair enough. This person. Sorry, you're having your own conversation in your head here. I was reading, oh fuck, the door's gone, Rob.
Starting point is 00:01:36 What do you mean the door's gone? My, I mean on my own and the cleaners arrived. Right, okay. Fucking night. Don't trust a cleaner with a key, interesting. I'll just go downstairs. Fucking Michael, what we, look, this is all we asked for him is three hours a morning. Yeah. Well, let's, we have this conversation off air most weeks. Let's have it on air.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Every Monday for three- Five years. Five years. Five years we've been doing this. But two and a half years, like, rigidly. All he has to do is not schedule in a builder, a cleaner, a delivery. And if he does, just have someone else in the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or go, I've left the key under the mat to let yourself in because I'm recording, can
Starting point is 00:02:22 you not hoover till later? Just a little bit of prep. It's not much work, this podcast. You know what? Two hours, 20 minutes. Not even three hours. I've shaved it as soon as I possibly can. Just don't have someone turn up. Once he gets his headphones in, we'll talk about it. Do you think I should give her a key? No. I think, no, Josh, we need to, Michael wants to say something. We need to sort this out. Okay. Like three hours, well, two and a half hours a week, Monday think, no, Josh, we need to, but Michael wants to say something. We need to sort this out. Okay. Like what, what three hours or two and a half hours a week, Monday morning, 10 till one,
Starting point is 00:02:49 you've just got to prioritize us. Josh. Isn't that right? Michael answering the door every week. There's someone there, Josh. I'm sorry to think Adrian doesn't exist, but you're having a psychotic episode and you've invented someone that's in your house. You can't still be doing stuff there, Josh. I don't know how I can not answer the door. Wouldn't have a plan ahead. She's meant to come at nine, Rob. But then leave it, if she's not here by 10, leave a key under the mat. I haven't got a mat. I live in Hackney. Right, okay. Plant pot. There's nowhere outside the front of your house you could pop a key for a cleaner for 45 minutes. Yeah, I could do that. I'll do that next week. I'll do that next week. What about Amazon? Parcelbox. Parcelbox.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Which is, I think, what was you saying, Michael? Michael got quite animated, actually, when he was like, it's just for two and a half years, we know 10 a.m. to 1 is locked off. I can't, I can't not answer the door. No no I know you can't but what we could say is you could plan around that so that we can do this. What say no one's allowed to come to the door in between 10 and 12 30? Well no no but if you know that they're coming you could prepare for their arrival. She was late. Yeah but then at quarter to 10 you go I'm gonna be on the podcast at 10 I'll put the key on the podcast at 10. I'll put
Starting point is 00:04:05 the key in at the front. Okay, I'll do that next week. Okay. Well, I don't want to be all, now Michael's gone silent. He was giving it a right fucking rabbit in earlier. Where are you? Where are you now, Michael? I don't know what you're talking about, mate. You listen back, Josh. He was more revved up than me. I probably won't. I'm not fucking Roy Keane on MU TV. The good news is, the guy hasn't used his lathe yet.
Starting point is 00:04:27 What's a lathe? Oh, his bandsaw. Oh, axle grinder. Old axle grinder. Axle and the grinders. He hasn't started yet. He starts about half ten. Half ten, right, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:37 One bit of axle grinder that he finishes for the week. Well, the moment we get a studio, the moment we get a studio. Let's not do this now. Let's not do this now. You're not gonna leave your ass, are you? Rob, I'd love to leave my fucking house. Anyway, what was it? What were we doing? You started to read the email but it's got a bit more of a curve. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. So, this is from Rachel. Rachel cornered me at a gig, Rob,
Starting point is 00:04:59 and asked how to get on. Pardon? She said, how do I get my children's voices on? Oh, no, you didn't. You didn't go old school, did you? This way. Casting couch. Come on, come on to my office. I told her to email. Sorry, I've had people asking me, why is Adrian still at your house? What is there possibly left to do? Well, he's tiling the shower. He's been there months. Yeah, but he's on his own, Rob. I know he's a bit like, when does he end?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Mid-Feb. Mid-Feb. Right, okay. So he will be available. He's asked me to do a shout out on the podcast for his availability. Yeah, if you want to build a little bit in your house for three years, do a couple of cupboards, go for it. He didn't do the cupboards. So I bumped into Rachel. Right, sorry, Rachel, gave her an agency email. Totally forgot. And then it's actually made it through. Unbelievable. Oh, that's good. She said she tried everything. Well, the only way is emailing Michael, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah, but she was like, I've tried all the different times of data. She's tried all the things, you know, like those people who try and get on who wants to be a millionaire through they like try and game. But now is there a danger that everyone just can email your agents? Well, I'm accepting no more from my agent, Michael. That drawbridge is up. That drawbridge is up. Rachel's taken that drawbridge.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So here it is. Hello, Rob and Josh. Here is my youngest son, Ethan, to open your show. He was two-ish at the time. Apologies for his freestyle at the end. Those were great days when I could listen to the pod without worrying about him picking up any choice words. A few months ago, he went through a phase of saying, not the man's talking every time I turned it on
Starting point is 00:06:48 in the car demanding the Mr. Tumble podcast and said, I didn't even know Mr. Tumble had a podcast. Everyone's got a fucking podcast. He says, I don't know what he's doing in it. Mr. Tumble doesn't have anywhere near as many mental breakdowns on his podcast therefore isn't anywhere near as funny. Not in public. have anywhere near as many mental breakdowns on his podcast, therefore isn't anywhere near as funny. Not in public. I have two boys aged five and nine. Thanks for the last you make commuting and parenting them much more enjoyable. Lots
Starting point is 00:07:13 of love. Rachel in. Oh, Perthshire. Huddersfield. No, not bad. North. How are you Josh? I'm very good actually You are you seemed a little bit stressed because your hair was big
Starting point is 00:07:34 No, I'm fine. I'll be sure we come on you was having thoughts about your career. Oh, that's always no It's not not actually I was just do you know when you have an occasional worry about your career? Yeah, it depends. Oh fuck sake Adrian's making noise. Can you hear that? I'm just going to phone him. Adrian Builder. Any thoughts, Michael? No, he's still got his headphones in, so I'm going to keep quiet. Are you a gullet little fucking rat?
Starting point is 00:08:00 You little sniveling turd. Why are they fucking making noise? It's producers like you that let TV presenters run wild, Your little sniveling turd. Why the fucking... It's producers like you that let TV presenters run wild, isn't it? It starts like this. I'll let you just ring your builder that's in your house first. Where is it? Our picture house. He's a floor down, but I didn't want to go and let you and Michael be able to talk to each other about it.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I'll go so he can bitch. It's funny when he bitches, but he won't do it in front of you. What can I tell Adrian to be quiet? Now, Michael,. I'll go so he can bitch. It's funny when he bitches, but he won't do it in front of you. What gun to agents be quiet. Now, Michael, this has escalated a bit. He keeps going when we get a studio. He's allowed to find another room to do it in, isn't he? Off his own back like I do.
Starting point is 00:08:34 No, come on, don't just do that little deep breath. Tell me how you think. I was just, I was putting myself in Josh's shoes. Right, OK. What he's going on with his life. It's tiny. Tiny did you think they'd be? And I guess if he's got kids, you know, I'm a producer with no children and this is my only responsibility. So maybe it's easy to sit here and say, you see outside of Lou occasionally walking past in the background, it seems okay for you.
Starting point is 00:09:03 What did Michael say? Nothing., he just said how well you're doing under really difficult circumstances and we're really happy that you're putting the graft in in difficult circumstances that are totally only on you. Yeah, is that what I was seeing said? He was, no, he tried to not engage. I can't remember what he said in the end. He was saying that I imagine it is very difficult when you're in a house and you've got kids and stuff going on and he's a producer without kids and he can't understand that it's trick difficult when you're in a house, you've got kids, there's loads of stuff going on, and he's a producer without kids, and he can't understand that it's trickier for you than him. But then he said, I'm in exactly the same position,
Starting point is 00:09:31 it doesn't seem to be happening. No, well, of course. But do you know what you need? Bigger house, more space. Too late. Too late, you've done a reef. So what was you saying before Adrian started making noise? Oh, you asked me about career worry.
Starting point is 00:09:44 The thing is, Josh, if I had a builder in the house, I would... No, that's not what we were talking about. No, but I'm going back to it. If I had a builder in the house, I would go, I don't think I'm going to be able to record a podcast with a builder in the house. So, for example, I'm getting my boiler... Well, I've mentioned for the last three months.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Mm, I'd say that's debatable. But the, for example, I've got my boiler being serviced. I've asked them to come between eight and 10 and they need to be done by 10 so I can record. Well, you're more professional than me. That's a worry. That's a huge concern. I'm gone at show your Rashford.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So back to let's sort of fall out. Let's not end it like this. I didn't think we were. I'm only winding you up. Is anyone else planned to come today? And have you done agents parking? He's not driven today.
Starting point is 00:10:31 What? No, I presume public transport. Right. Okay. Fair enough. Anyway, let's talk. What was you saying? I can't remember to be honest. How's your week been? Um, I've been oh mate. It was the weather has been so bad I was touring down in Cornwall. I did the quad of Truro, Torquey, Torquey, Yeoville. Didn't do Exeter? No, I stayed in Exeter for the Torquey gigs. That was your recommendation actually, good tip.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah, it's nicer. I don't mind Torquey, Torquey in January, not the one. It's not the place to stay. Facilities wise. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it was quicker to get back but you recommend I've got the train down to Truro, which is a city is the Cornwall's only city. Yeah, I mean that and they were very quick to tell me that. Yeah, I feel like the cathedral is doing a lot of heavy lifting
Starting point is 00:11:18 there as cities goes. Yeah, because when I arrived, there was absolutely no one there then a man come out of a bill and rang a bill telling me pasties were half price. Yeah, well, I arrived, there was absolutely no one there. Then a man come out of a bill and rang a bill telling me pasties were half price. Yeah. Well, I mean, sometimes you've got to say people from the Southwest, they don't help themselves. Exactly. It was, you know, but they were lovely people and then on the train down. So where were you when the pasty bell was rung?
Starting point is 00:11:37 I was walking through the completely desolate. I'd call it a town center. Sorry. Yes, city center. City center. The cobbled city center. Yeah. Um, and, uh, it's the only city I've been in where you have to drive 10 miles to find a KFC. Yeah. Well, maybe, maybe it's not worth it.
Starting point is 00:12:00 What the KFC or the city? The KFC. Well, no, I'm just saying though, in most cities, it's not a 10 mile drive to KFC. No, no. Where are you going? Where was the KFC. Right. Well, I'm just saying though, in most cities, yeah, it's not a 10 mile drive to KFC. No, no. Where are we going? Where was the KFC? I was just trying to find some fucking something to eat Josh. Right. Yeah. No, no, no. But I mean, where, where, where was the KFC? Camborne. Oh, right. Cause the last time I did Cornwall did Red Roof, which is a bit lively Red Roof. Yeah. I did the cinema there. Um, but I, um, I, I went down on the train as you requested and I was, it's quite a nice train. I recommended.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I recommended, sorry that is different. Yeah, that would have been a weird reprob just for me. Could you get the train now? I know you want to drive. Quite a big power play. Because not many people go down to Cornwall to gig, do they? Then we were on the train, but then the train got delayed and then stops are getting canceled. There's people on buses and stuff like that. And then I was on the and then I was like, yeah, and then it was like, I always have
Starting point is 00:12:51 been going to it. It'd been quite a quiet train journey at that point. But then at that point, people just chatting to each other about what they're getting off. And where have you got to by this point? No idea. Some of the names of places look like they'd been made up on route to effect par list card and Lisgard, and all this shit, right? Lisgard, yeah. Yeah. And I was on there and then like there was all chatting and then someone was like, oh, you, Rebecca, are you doing a gig?
Starting point is 00:13:11 And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I am. And someone from the back end of the carriage was like, he's doing the whole for Cornwall. Like that, shouting. And I was like, yeah, I'm doing it. And they were going, no, why don't more people come down? Why don't, it's so easy to get down. It's not your fault. And I know.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Don't blame the guy that's fucking made the journey. I know. I was like, no, I am coming. And I was like, well, it's quite a long way and the travel's quite tricky. What's the thing wrong with it? It's so quick from London as we were on a cancelled train. And I was like, I know, but like, you know, you can't really defend it.
Starting point is 00:13:39 It's not so quick. It's four and a half hours. That is a long time. So long. Anyway, they were lovely. Did Shura, which was really nice. Stayed over in Cornwall. I've done that before. I'm doing it on tour. Hall for Cornwall, amazing. Beautiful theatre. It's all been done up. It's really, really nice. Cause last time I did Red Roof,
Starting point is 00:13:56 I was in a converted cinema and got heckled quite badly and it wasn't, wasn't my greatest hour. So I did that. Lou, when me and Lou went away to a hotel, Lou bought us matching silk pajamas to wear because we were just gonna lay in bed watching films, right? Right. I'm not a pajama wearer. I've taken one tour absolutely game changer. Especially if you're not back in the car like some sort of Dickensian assay. But backing up
Starting point is 00:14:24 because after a gig, sometimes- After the gig, you get changed into your silk pajamas, then walk out to the car. So all the selfies you're doing, you're in your silk pajamas already. Holding a hot water bottle like Molly May. In the sidebar, I say Molly May, cradle's hot water bottle,
Starting point is 00:14:43 we're following Split from Tommy. But no, but when I get back to the room, sometimes I've got loads of adrenaline and I'm excited and I don't want to end up getting pissed. So if I put on the silky, I ain't going anywhere. You can't get pissed in silk pajamas. You can't. If you slide on silk pajamas and get into bed,
Starting point is 00:14:58 you're not going anywhere, mate. And what's the heat situation with a silk pajama? Is it warm? Very cool. That's my dish. I normally get too hot in pajamas and they're loose. Love it. Big fan of that. So what does it feel like on the skin? Is it like very smooth? So smooth.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Oh, this is lovely. So I, and I'm, I'm, I take them off to sleep. All right. But they're just there for mooching around the hotel rooms. That's been nice. Do you get out of bed to take them off or do you kind of just undress under the duvet and then kind of just leave them? Bit of both actually. I've not really thought it through.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Sometimes if I'm like, oh, no, I've got them on and then I go, right, it's bed bedtime now. I'm not bedtime. It's bed bedtime. So I'll get up and brush my teeth and I'll strip. So it looks like a man's been evaporated next to a bed and getting naked. Yeah. Is this too much information? No, I think I'm picturing it nicely.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Um, did you just hear like a saucepan being dropped there? Oh, well, tables have turned over. Yeah. Don't fear. We go. Well, the reason I'm recording from here is because I got home late last. I had an awful joke.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Oh, so basically I did the first day late last, I had an awful jet. So basically I did the Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday night gigs. I think as a family man are a bit of a fucking weak killer because you've got no time to sort of like, you know, you need Sundays to sort of rebalance your life. Yeah. To get everything sorted, see Lou and the kids.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And now the kids- Balance checkbook. Exactly. Before Monday hits again. So I was in Yoville last night Have you done though? Have you done the Westlands leisure center? I seem to do Yoville on Sunday every time I it's it's a going because it's a going home from the southwest because it's a bit too far to drive home from Exeter So you'd say so I bet if you ask the people of Yo-ville, almost every gig they watch is on a Sunday night. Because it's your, I'll do Thursday to Saturday in the Southwest, and then I'll do Yo-ville
Starting point is 00:16:50 on the way home. And then, you know, Is that the same as Yo-ville Octagon? No, that's a smaller theater that's shut down. Westlands this time, I don't, oh, is that shut down? Yeah, I must be doing this quick. Westlands is like a strange leisure center next to an airport in a suburban cul-de-sac. I used to like the Octagon. What happened to that? I think they're redoing it. Oh, right. Okay. But
Starting point is 00:17:09 that is a good theatre. Anyway, so I was getting quite stressed on Sunday because the girls have got iPads, right? And they can iMessage me. Oh, that's interesting. Would you think that'd be nice? No, it's not. It's absolutely fucking heart wrenching every day. Because they just go, I miss you. I miss you. I miss you. Please come home, daddy, please. But look, can I FaceTime now? Can you like, Oh, and at what time you come in home, and you're just like, Oh, my God, and you're replying. But so that's, that's quite hard work that you feel the guilt of doing that. And then we're trying to drive home
Starting point is 00:17:38 from your field last night, Josh, the rain was meant the roads are flooded about five times like the whole windscreen which is covered in water. We got home at 1am. Are you in the back or are you in the front at this point? I sit in the back but I'm having to sort of, no silkies, just show clothes because I basically come off stage, jump straight in the car and started driving. Yeah, like straight out and I'm sat there and I'm doing that sort of looking, normally I just try
Starting point is 00:18:03 and get a bit of rest and chill but I'm doing that sort of leaning slightly forward. Were you worried? Not worried but wanted to sort of give, I normally I just try and get a bit of rest and chill, but I'm doing that sort of leaning forward. Not worried, but I wanted to sort of give some moral support. Oh, yeah, it was driving and it was like he was nose to the wind screen concentrating, having to change lanes because of flooding and stuff like that. Fucking hell. And it was really horrible. So the whole that it rained constantly. The window wipers were on full blast the old journey. windscreen, yeah. What did I call it? Window? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Windscreen wipe? Okay, well, let's see. Didn't need to do that. It feels a bit niggly, this. Yeah, it did. Does, doesn't it? Anyway, that's fine. Keep me on it. Andy Cole and Sheridan never spoke to each other off the pitch, did they? No, but the difference is, you know, they worked well together. Yeah, and every time that Andy Cole tried to, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:45 header a goal in, Teddy Sheridan's cleaner or builder would turn up just to flick the shot. That's what the falling out was about. I was sick, but I am healing. Returning to W network and StacTV. The West Side Ripper is back. If you're not killing these people, then who is? That's what I wanna know. Starring Kayleigh Cuoco and Chris Messina. The only investigating I'm doing these days is who shit their pants.
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Starting point is 00:19:43 Well, that's the countryside for a rat run up my leg. Well that's the countryside for you. A rat run up my leg. Inside or outside? I don't know if it's a rat or a mouse or what it was. That is mental. No not inside on top of my leg and I did that thing. That's still mental. Right so I did that thing where it. You silked pyjamas? Not me pyjamas, I was wearing tracksuit bottoms, it climbed onto my shoe, run up to my leg and I flipped my leg and I basically volleyed it into a field. Yeah, of course. I'm not volleyed. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:07 But you're just like, whoa, what's going on? Like, um, like hurling or, um, what's that American? LaCrosse. I didn't hit it. Yeah. That's American. Yeah. That, but I sort of, it was like in the, it was in the cup of my foot and I.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Yeah. Yeah. You just kind of flipped it off. That is mad. I hope that's alright I don't Chris Packham well I think the thing is that was a knee I literally a knee jerk reaction reaction like you're not you're not you haven't decided to do that no that's just happened and they are vermin it might have been a squirrel I don't know what it was, but it was small. And were you scared?
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yes! It was like a horror film. I felt like Jurassic Park, you know when the big chap is trying to get to the ferry and he's eating cream, the guy with glasses, larger chap, and then he crashes the car and it's all rainy and he's got his coat on and he's all wet and then that big dinosaur with the big face. Oh yeah, the velociraptor. No, not the velociraptor, the one with the like, it's got like sort of a weird thing that flips out. Yeah, wasn't that one made up to make it more scary?
Starting point is 00:21:14 Potentially, but that is Hollywood. That's Hollywood. Well actually, apparently, but the real monsters were probably bloody producing it. Oh, think on. These producers. Think on these producers. Yeah. So that's really good stuff actually. Yeah. Let's turn on producers. That's what good TV host and broadcasters do. Let's turn on my producers turned on me. This producer is not for turning. He's all right. Yeah. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:43 so then we got in and then obviously the girls have missed me and I've not seen them at all. Whereas if you finish on a Saturday, like, and get home, you've got the Sunday to sort of see the kids. So then I got in, I flinged a rat and I'm all pumped up at this point. So I watched a bit of football. Thank God Tottenham are losing because that's really got me through yesterday. Tottenham losing. I was watching on much match of the day and eventually I went up to go bed about two and then when I went up there, my, one of my daughters couldn't sleep so that she was trying to get in bed with us. By getting up there.
Starting point is 00:22:15 No, no, no. She's just not, when I'm not in the house, she doesn't sleep very well. Since she gets in with Lou and then I'm back and then she can't get in with Lou and then Lou's, I shouldn't let her in, but I don't know what to do. I'm so tired. So then I went and laid next to her for an hour and then I'm back and then she can't get in with and then lose. I shouldn't let her in, but I don't know what to do. I'm so tired. So then I went and laid next to her for an hour and then I was awake till three. And then I left her because she was fast asleep. Then I come back in, went to bed at three a.m.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And then the one, the other one that I've been going to, I said, wake me up in the morning before school and I'll see it. She wakes me up at six. So I have three hours since she's jumped on me. And then she, I am like so not with it and in such a foul mood. She's like laughing and giggling and like trying to tickle me and all that.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And I'm just, and I'm sort of like, ha ha. But part of me is just going, I can get off me. You know, you're all like, I'm just stimulated and stressed. And I was like, oh yeah. And then the youngest one comes in with the hump because she's been up all night and not sleeping. We check our phones and get an email from the school saying the school's heating system's not working. So it our phones and get an email from the school send the school's heating systems not working. So
Starting point is 00:23:06 it's gonna be freezing cold, but they think they've got enough electric heaters, send them in but with layers. So we've got all their like thermals and their fleecy leggings that they're allowed to wear. That email is a gamble, isn't it? Because not everyone's going to check their email that morning. No, so you might have kids that are freezing or once they get layered up and then the heating comes back on then they're
Starting point is 00:23:26 sweating. Yeah. So we were trying to tell them what they need to do that then the youngest has got the arms she's going, I don't want to wear these leggings. I don't want to wear them. Why are you making them? Where am I? And having to go at me and then I'm just like fucking at one point I lost our temper. I was like, we have not made up an email from the school. They said it will be so hot in lost our temper I was like we have not made up an email from the school they've said it'll be so hot in school and then I was like the radiators aren't working
Starting point is 00:23:53 and yeah but it's always hot in school and yeah but it won't be because it I don't know I'm like you know in the mornings when we get in the car and it's cold like yeah I went that's normally hot isn't it once we get driving like I went, but imagine that cold as soon as you get in doing yelling, that's what it's gonna be like. And I went, no, it's not low because the school's always hot was like the heat. That's because there's a radiator and I was like, oh my god, and then she's kicking off and then she had the right fucking dump and then I'm just I'm just sat there with
Starting point is 00:24:19 free asly and I don't know I don't know what to do or say. No, and then just me answering the door hit you so hard. Yeah then day left at half seven I went back to sleep for about an hour and a half. Oh that's good. So I had a bit more sleep to do this but I'm just like and now I'm like straight back into this week of work so I'm all off. Are you working tonight? Not working so you just reminded me I'm working next Sunday night I forgot about that. But I don't mind working Saturday night from home but, but it's just, it's very difficult to balance family life and do unsearchable hours. I've noticed this this week because I've got, I'm doing, I've got a run in January of previews on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah, perfect. It's like in London, right? Yeah. But I've got last leg on Friday as well. Yeah. And I suddenly realized that like, if anything else goes in, it's just so difficult for Rose.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And I, cause I'm just doing, I'm out so many evenings in the week. Yeah, cause if it went- It's mental. If it went in on like a Wednesday morning, it wouldn't matter at all, but it's everything we do is so like, it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, like, oh if it went, if it went in on like a Wednesday morning, it wouldn't matter at all. But it's everything we do is so like it's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and now it's so busy with the kids.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Everything's evenings. And so I'm basically, I literally was like, Lou and Rose taking bullets here. Yeah, I don't think I can put, I just don't think I can put anything in until this sounds mental until the end of the tour in June 2025. But I don't think like during gigging time, I can be putting in like, social stuff. No, no, yeah, like do you want to go for dinner on a Friday night? Yeah. May 26. But also even if I did a Friday free, that would be one of my only Fridays, one of my own evenings free. So it's really difficult to go, you know, I've been touring
Starting point is 00:26:07 for the last, I've been gigging for the last four nights. Yeah. Well, now I'm going to meet someone because I'm going to someone's birthday. And then Rosen and Lou are bored because they're about to be in all those four nights. They're like, well, let's go do something. You're like, I can't or I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Yeah. Oh God, is this where we, is this a divorce era of this podcast? No, I don't think so. I think it's just I think we're the ones. I just think we've got to admit that our social life is now going to over Westlands on a Sunday evening. For the next year and a half. That's it. That's that is your treat. Oh, my god. I'm just gonna leave that
Starting point is 00:26:44 what's his message? The ring doorbell. I can't. There we go. What is it? I don't know. We have to go and check, might as well. And then you tell me about your week. Go on. No, I'm not going to get it. I'm not going to.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Surely two other people in the house could get it. Won't the cleaning get it? Yeah, they will. The cleaning will get it. OK. Amazon? But it's bound to be Amazon, isn't it? Or another. I've started buying sticker albums on eBay. Right, okay, so what, now this is interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:09 What's prompted that? Something in your head's changed where you're like, I need to treat myself. Do you feel like you're working a lot and what's the point? And I like that, I never do it. I'm gonna do something for me. Do you know what? It was the intensity of last autumn and winter, which we've all been through. And then you had that illness at the start of the year. Yeah, and I was just like, do you know what, it was the intensity of last last autumn and winter, which we've all been through.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And then you had that illness at the start of the year. Yeah. And I was just like, do you know what? And it's also because I've got rid of so many things from my phone that are distractions. I was like, when I look at my phone, I can at least go on eBay. This is addict behavior, isn't it? Yeah. This is addict behavior, isn't it? Yep. It's like a gambler would like to start like saying to someone, I bet you a quid the next bus is a 161. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:52 The bet you that fly jumps off the table first, that kind of thing. No, so I'm a good hobby. Yeah, it's a good hobby. I'm buying completed sticker albums for me. What you got coming? I just got the 1983 Football League Panini sticker album. And it is a thing of beauty. That's what I don't get about you. You go that far back where you weren't even
Starting point is 00:28:12 around that era. You're too young for that. Yeah, but I just find these things. It's not even I just I'm actually I've become quite obsessed with the 80s. Oh, you're going back you're going backwards. You're going further back rather than further. I am going forward as well. Can I ask you this about parenting, Rob? Go on. So one of the things I love is introducing my daughter to pop music. We're in a great age for pop music, particularly female acts. So current pop music, not stuff from the 90s.
Starting point is 00:28:44 female acts. So current pop music, not the music from the 90s. Although she loves Girls Aloud, which they're her favorite band who aren't, well, they're kind of current, but they're not. But so we were listening to Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking brilliant. I think pop music is so good these days. It's such high quality. Yeah. The songs are so much more interesting than when we were kids. And the production is incredible. Anyway. I think what you're getting is you're getting pop stars that are writing the songs from the heart,
Starting point is 00:29:13 as opposed to the people like Simon Cowell creating songs for them. Totally. Lyrically as well. But this is where we come to it. Like Lola Young, Messy. I'm not Lola Young. Yeah, that's a big massive song, that Messy song. I think. Like Lola Young, messy. I've done Lola Young. Yeah, that's a big massive song,
Starting point is 00:29:26 that messy song. I think it's Lola Young. I'll put that on all the way home. So we're doing Sabrina Carpenter, Olivia Rodrigo, etc. Kim Marsh, yeah. Kim Marsh, Rick Astley. And we, it's very blue. Gina G. And we, it's very blue. Genergy. Sorry. It's incredibly blue, Rob. What their lyrics? Lyricly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Have you gone to Chapel Rhone yet? That gets very blue. She doesn't like Chapel Rhone. Oh, really? She finds her a bit. I don't, she wouldn't go with Hot to Go. Because I thought this is going to be an absolute win and she's your one I'm talking about casual sex and being licked out in a car seat maybe
Starting point is 00:30:09 a bit full-on for her but hot to go hey you're joe TT I think she found it a bit between a bit kind of novelty if you know what I mean yeah I mean I think she was like um this is a bit bitch a bit childish for me. Do you know what I mean? That kind of, yeah. But Sabrina Carpenter, man, is, is effing and Jeffing all over the show. There's a bit where the chorus says motherfucker. My daughter's favorite song is called taste, which is about, um, no, it's about, uh, she's got together with a guy who's got back together with someone else and you can still taste me on him. Oh, that's worse than come, isn't it? And there's one which is just about fucking and she says the temperature's up to 69 at one point, which obviously my daughter doesn't understand. You've got to go to A&E for that, surely. I tell you where it's not up to 69 at your daughter's school.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Oh, is she talking about the sex move? I think she must be, Rob. I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't think she chose the random number. No, but always she's saying that we're shagging so aggressively. No, I think that... Our body temps got to 69. I think she's hinting at both things, Rob. Right, they're hot and upside down.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah, exactly. Right. Always overrated for me, the 69. I thought too much admin. Too much going on. Too much admin. It's like an Ikea build. It's rubbish. Anyway, nothing wrong with a bit. Surely just grown adults still don't do that.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Fair enough at the start when you're young, but the asshole to do that. No chance. We've talked about this before, haven't we? And then the Olivia Rodrigo song, Vampire, which is obviously a massive song, that says as star fame fucker, right in the main bit of the chorus. Oh, well that's, that's. So, but anyway, my point is, I love this music and she loves it and it's really good that she's listening to this really good music. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:13 So does that outweigh the Effin and Jeffin all over the shop? I think Effin and Jeffin's fine. I struggle with like, if I like rap, I like rap music, but then sometimes there's like completely unacceptable words in there where it's just like, no, that is beyond the power. So yeah, I think a few F's and G's, but then if it's too much, I turn it off. Like that messy song, she says fucking loads in it. So I tried to like, a couple of them are all right, but not too much. But they know now.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And I just say, you know, that's the music and you can't say that word. Yeah, exactly. But I think the positives outweigh the negatives. Does that make me a bad parent? Fine. I think in the long term you're better off your childish into that than Mr Tumble non-stop or like Miss Rachel or whatever. Yeah yeah exactly. I mean I feel like you've got to you've got to draw a line at some point when they're like seven eight nine. Exactly yeah. Before you tell us about your week there was another meltdown I forgot to mention. My daughter basically was like, oh, nine, on the weekend at nine, are we okay to do
Starting point is 00:33:12 it? Are we okay to do it? I was like, what? And then they go to a like a class on a Saturday morning around nine. I went, oh, I'll take you to your class. She went, no, not that, on Sunday. I went, okay, what happens on Sunday at nine? She went, the acro, the acro.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And just like bursting into it, you forgot, you forgot. It's like what? And basically last week she said, I'm going to be in the gym. I'm going to be in the gym. I'm going to be in the gym. I'm going to be in the gym. I'm going to be in the gym. I'm going to be in the gym. Sunday, I went, okay, what happens on Sunday? And Nigel, the acro, the acro, and just like burst into tears, you forgot, you forgot. So what? And basically, last week, she said, on a weekend, can me and Nancy be your acro teachers and teach you a mommy acro, acro bag stuff that way? I was like, yeah, all right. And that was a week ago, she's not mentioned it
Starting point is 00:33:39 since. And because I've not remembered a class we've never done before, she's like on the floor in tears and then anyway and then but then their recovery from that to being completely normal is seconds like I feel like I'm working in some sort of like maximum security prison and they've got these inmates that just flip and then turn back and I'm free out of sleep and I've flung a rat off me foot I haven't got the minerals for it. No no no, it's tough. It's tough, Rob. It's tough. Should I tell you about potty training? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:34:12 It's over. The game's over. So how old's your son? I will not be changing a shitty nappy. So you've done it. How quickly did you do it? You've not mentioned it at all. Well, it's been a long journey. Right. So he's three. Is he three? He's three. So it's been a journey of a few
Starting point is 00:34:30 months in that we got rid of nappies. He's doing wheeze. Yeah. He does stand up wheeze. Right. In his potty or the toilet. No, into the toilet. Yeah. Yeah. Although for some reason, he's decided he doesn't want he wants to show me his stand up we's his stand up we on his fourth birthday. So I'm not allowed to watch him stand up we he'll do a sit down we in front of me. I don't know why that's happening. And then when he's four, he's gonna show you how it's done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Exactly. When is it nearly his birthday? May. Quite a long time for that. I know. But you know, you might overthink your reaction to it because you're gonna have to give it some. Yeah, I know. And I'll be honest, I've seen it. Oh, Josh. I saw it for cracking the door. Is it good? I mean, it's how you'd imagine.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Right. Okay. Well, I've not imagined it. Well, no, but you know, don't imagine it. But if you did imagine it, if I was imagining your son pissing, well, I'd have no problem with that. And I would. Would you? Yeah. Come on, what you've been up to, just been thinking about your daughter's piss. But that's a bit weird, Josh. It's weirder if it's daughter for some reason, because if it's
Starting point is 00:35:37 just blokes, aren't we having a piss? Yeah, it is that yeah, but still not okay. No, still not okay. I've been sitting down to Weymour. I get the morning glory. Oh yeah, do you get morning glory? Not as much as I used to. Mate, every morning I wake up, it's like a fucking scaffold pole.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I can't, it's mental. And it's like, I have to sort of hide. Is that because you need a piss? I don't know. Because that's the body's way of stopping a piss during the night. Is it? That's what I've heard.
Starting point is 00:36:04 That it just goes up to the, like the brimim. It's a way of kind of sealing it more. Right. Well, I don't know. But I'm like, it's to the point where I wake up in the morning and then I sit down and then just like hook it underneath the toilet, like a toilet duck and piss. Sorry, sorry. I talk about your dick. Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention my dick last week. I meant to do it. Okay. Well, when I was about mine, and then I'll tell you, you can tell about your what do you know about my dick? Um, is it going on the porcelain? Well, yes, because if I sit down with it, I'm just sat down. It's just like almost doing an Elon Musk salute.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That's so good. Because then I just be pissing the bath. And also don't subscribe to those views. Absolutely don't. No, your dick does. The dick in hell can't walk at, yeah, in the morning my dick's got right leaning views. Yeah, so then I sort of push it through the hole and hold it down. And so is it touching the dirty porcelain? Clean porcelain. Well, there's germs around that. Yeah, maybe it is touching the dirty porcelain, clean porcelain well there's germs around yeah
Starting point is 00:37:06 maybe it is touching the dirty porcelain but what do we serve out it'd be a bit dirty then I have a shower and it's clean again that's the point of a shower and so I have to do that or otherwise it's just wheeze everyone because I can't do it stood up or after hunch my back and point it down stood up from a distance couldn't you too risky so I just that's what I do anyway what do you want to tell me about your penis? Oh, just when I was ill. When you were really little?
Starting point is 00:37:28 It was pathetic. Why does it go so little when you're ill? It's so small when you're ill, isn't it? When I had COVID, it just, it went away. I could barely piss over my balls. It was like... Just trickled down like a water feature. It was just like a tiny little
Starting point is 00:37:46 gooseberry on top of a pair of bollocks. Like a nan's little tobe put on your groin. It's horrible isn't it, that tiny ill dick? Yeah, awful. Sometimes when I do sport it goes small as well. Do you ever get that? Yeah, that is a thing isn't it? A sports dick. I can't remember
Starting point is 00:38:04 what I was saying. I was in the middle of an alley. You went really small. It's pathetic. No, toilet training. Oh yeah. We got into this situation where he did the wheeze easily and then he wanted to just keep pooing in a nappy. Right. And then basically for some reason he got blocked up. Right. Right. And he got the fear of doing a shit. Right. It's so difficult, isn't it, being three? And then like, so basically he got like compacted poos so we had to give him all this medicine to get it out. Yeah. To get it out. And then it's just kept on coming. And we started giving him, we started rewarding him with chocolate for doing a poo in the toilet. Right. Okay. He's now on three or four a day. Rockies loves, he's like, right. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:48 He's like, this is a basically like a vending machine every time I have a shit. I get it. Yeah. But how do you ease out the chocolate? Not to. I do feel like when your son's about 26 and he's probably under a bit of pressure at work, he might go do a poo and subconsciously walk to the shop and buy some chocolate and not understand why does it and it'll be a thing at work and he's out of shit I reckon he's just born a whisper and he don't know what he's always do that I'm sure they will just forget eventually yeah it will become more mundane. Or just do less chocolate.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yeah, just ease it out. Yeah, just ease it out like a little chocolate chip at the end. That's it. And then what about night? Nappy at night? Yeah, so still nappy at night for we's. I don't know how you really get rid of that. That's just a kind of... Well, we used to say, my daughters would go,
Starting point is 00:39:42 I don't want to wear it anymore. And we'll go, well, if you do five nights in a row with a dry nappy yeah and then in the morning just sort of reward yeah you've got dry nappy and say if you need to wait in the night wake us and I'll take you to the toilet or go yourself but if you get a dry nappy then you won't have to wear it yeah it's great it's a really because I think it older when they like we're in it it's so like It's a really... Because I say get older when they like wearing it, it's so... It's like working in a care home. You're like a big black bin liner full of piss.
Starting point is 00:40:08 It stinks of piss, doesn't it? But that's it now. It's weird when you go through these periods where you're like, oh, that's that done. No nappies. You're not going to wipe an arse again. Well... Apart from your own.
Starting point is 00:40:19 You never know what will happen with you, no? I bet you wipe your arse weird. Both hands sat down. I don't, actually. I'm not one of ass with both hands sat down. I don't actually. I'm not one of those weirdos. Do you sit down and do it or stand up? Kind of um. Pop up up down.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I'd say a bit off the toilet. Lean to the left, arc your ass up. I don't know. I it's I can't picture it now because I've never seen it. Film it. You're right. I'll put it on Instagram. It'll be on Instagram. Stick it on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:40:45 How do you think it would do for traction? Do you think it would do well or do you think it would do badly? I think if there was no graphic actual poo or bum or nakedness and we just saw sort of like jeans and pants around your knees and just a bit of thigh but no rude bits and no poop bits. By the way, this isn't going to happen. Wow, let's not rule it out, you know, content's content, baby. I think it'd do really well.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Do you? Yeah, huge numbers. Cause a lot of people wouldn't have heard the podcast and that would be problematic. Yeah, but then we saw you on the Nebulizer last week. I know, that caused all kinds of fucking issues. Why? Oh, just loads of people texting me
Starting point is 00:41:22 to see if I'm all right, because they hadn't listened to the podcast, so they thought that was a live feed of me in a hospital. So now I don't know if this is me as a bad person or knowing you really well. But if I see you on a nebulizer and I hadn't heard the story, I just assume I was on a nebulizer. Like it look, I just assume you might just need it. It wouldn't be a big thing. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But people are like people care about people. Some people have got like empathy and stuff. Yeah. Or they're actually a bit fucking busy. What do they look like they're caring? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm like, well, he's all right. He's on a nebulizer. What I would worry is you lying on a floor on Instagram struggling for breath. Then I'll text. If you were in a field going, I'll text. But in an hospital, in a nebulizer, Ibulizer, well, what am I going to contribute? He's in good hands. He's in good hands.
Starting point is 00:42:07 He's sat there with his tiny little cock, breathing freely. Do you know what, that was when I noticed it when I went to the toilet at the hospital, I was like, this is sad. It's also every time you've met, every time you've met Ned, you had a tiny knob. True. I blame Ned, Dr. Ned. No, tiny knob. True. I blame Ned. Dr. Ned. No, I wouldn't have when I had my appendix out.
Starting point is 00:42:30 No? I don't know. You're packing. Do write in, if you've had your appendix out, how did it affect your penis? Why don't you tell us when your penis has been the smallest? Top three times you've had a tiny penis. Send them in. Now, obviously when I open this up to um willing to. Yeah. Top three times you've had a massive or tiny but it doesn't work like
Starting point is 00:42:52 that does it really? It doesn't really work like that. Oh dear what an episode. Yeah what an episode. I do apologize for answering the door. No it's all right. Do you know what else Rob? Go on. So I was talking to you before about um just uh career worry. Yeah what's your career worry? What's going on? It's all kind of nebulous. What's that? Nebulous. Nebulous. It's kind of nothingy but like um do you ever just get that thing where you're like oh god I'm on the scrap heap. It's all over. And it's just, do you know what it was? Well, it was like, I watched, I watched The Traitors on Friday,
Starting point is 00:43:35 and I was like, I love this show. It's really good. And then I was like, what do I wanna do? I don't like anything I do as much as that. What, as watching the traitors? As the traitors, yeah. And then I was like- Go on the traitors.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Go on the traitors, no. No, and then I was like, I don't know. And then I was just like, oh, what do I want to do with my career? And then I suddenly went into a couple of days where I was like, I don't know what I'm doing with my life anymore. Do I want to do with my career? And then I suddenly went into a couple of days where I was like, I don't know what I'm doing with my life anymore. Do I want to be on TV?
Starting point is 00:44:07 Do I not want to be on TV? Do I want to do a podcast? Does anyone listen? Do you ever have that? Yeah, that's totally normal. And I think especially, I think that's something around, especially people in their 40s, where most people in their 40s, if they've gone for like a certain career, will like maybe have got it.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And then what you wanted becomes quite normal. Yeah. Where like, and there's something I say before, like, yesterday's dreams are today's problems kind of thing. It's like the thing you wanted to get like come. But I think that is everyone at this stage of life where if you've bought a house and you have children and have a job and in a very lucky position that you're in, but you're allowed to go, so is this it now then? I sort of just do this until I retire, then die. That's the weird thing is that I've got a slight addiction, and I think from our job,
Starting point is 00:44:59 I've got an addiction to the new, if that makes sense. 100%. And I think we're venturing near plateau territory. Yes. Where you get to a point where, right, this is what I do with my career. And I'm, am I happy with this? I could try and push for another thing or another level, but then that's going to impact my family life and my own stress levels. And then so that's totally normal, I think, and understandable.
Starting point is 00:45:24 And I think because I was looking at it as well. It's like, so it's almost like your brain is constantly telling you everyone's got like on the desk of like your life has got a dossier of all the stuff that well, that's not very good. You're not very good at that. This is, you know, all the negativity and stuff. And sometimes you try and like counteract it and your ego gets involved. You go, well, actually, I don't really make a big impact on the world. If I do, I just do a lot of podcasts and a bit of telling what is it even I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And then you really go, I've got to do something. So then you start doing like mad charity work, which is a positive thing, but you can get swept up in it where you're like, I do this and this is my identity and stuff like that. Or you're not very good at that. That's not very good. And then you spend your life trying to prove that thought wrong. And so I'd find you're better off just not engaging with that dossier and really hyper focusing on what's happening now and go, it's Monday morning, you've managed to sort of
Starting point is 00:46:14 get up, the kids have gone off to school, you sat and chat into a mate in your job at 10am. In this moment, quite right now, it's quite a nice little gig here. It is. But if you just focus on this. It's so easy to forget. Yeah. It's so easy to forget, particularly in this job, because everyone's obsessed with the new, including ourselves. Yeah. Everything that you do becomes so second nature that you kind of don't even, it just feels
Starting point is 00:46:40 mundane, if that makes sense. Yeah, because yeah, like go, you know, whereas if you, you go on like another podcast or a TV show 10 years ago, you'd be like, oh my God, I've got that. And that means this and that makes sense. Yeah, because it, yeah, like go, you know, whereas if you, you go on like a, another podcast or a TV show 10 years ago, you'd be like, Oh my God, I've got that. And that means you're getting a pump of adrenaline for your body. But actually it comes to point where all that is just my job now. And that's what I do. Yeah. So it's sort of, um, and you end up dressing up as a penguin to get a hit.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Yeah, but yeah, to just feel something. So the way I do the way I deal with it is because my mind races like that as well. I hype I try and I don't always succeed. Try to hyper focus on what I'm doing in the exact moment and see how I feel about it. Like, for example, today, I'm very tired of stressful night last night, stressful morning. But actually, right this second, I'm having a really good time and I'm having a laugh doing this with you and Michael and it's fun. Right. Whereas later on in the week, I might be doing another job that I'm having a really good time and having a laugh doing this with you and Michael and it's fun. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Whereas later on in the week, I might be doing another job that I'm not necessarily like, but if I'm hyper focused on that, and I'm not allowing the past and the future to get in there, I can go, I don't like doing this. Yeah, this isn't enjoyable. This is, this is shit. And it's okay. It's not like you've got to love everything you're doing.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And then, and then at the end of the day, I sort of look back and go, right, I really enjoyed doing that with Josh. I didn't really enjoy getting home really late. So maybe in future, I'm going to ask to promote her to not booking as many Sunday gigs because that imbalances my week. That wasn't enjoyable. Park that. That's gone now. Monday morning. Love doing that with Josh. Really good fun. Love Michael. Love it. Do that. Recall that fun. He's a bit, he's a bit chippy these days, Michael. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:05 But you know. Josh is dropping the ball a little bit, but he's had a stressful time, and when he's stressed, the show's good. But then, later in the week, if I'm doing something I don't want to do, I can go, you're not feeling this, Rob. This isn't bringing joy to your life.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Or, you know, and then just like, actually, I'm not going to do it. I'm going to stop doing that. And I think if you hyper-focus on each little step, it's a lot easier than doing a big massive blanket. What is even the point of all this? What is going on? Because what there is, there'll be one thing
Starting point is 00:48:32 that's your problem that rather than you hyper focusing on to find, it just puts a dark cloud over it all. Which isn't actually what it is. So if I try and get right in the minutiae of what I'm doing in that moment and then I can feel if I'm from digging it or not. Yeah, it's great. That is great, Rob. That's why I try and do it if not go for a wank. I don't really need a fucking pair of
Starting point is 00:48:57 tweezers to the right. Right. We do a small piece of shout out. This one here is this is Josh Winokum's cock from last week. Oh, do do do do. Little dick. Yeah, see, we are fucking relevant. That is good humor. No, no, no, that's not how it works. You don't try and come back to dossier of thoughts, you ignore them. Because that's when you get trapped in the in the cycle. I am I'm gonna read all the
Starting point is 00:49:27 comments to show that I am worthwhile. Look, people like it. Michael Michael, send me the listing figures. Look, look, how many people listen and it's going up, which means I'm better than I was. But if they go down, these numbers go down, I'll be worse than I was. Seriously, Michael, you doing all right? All right, it's all business. Where we at?
Starting point is 00:49:53 For Josh's Christmas tree problem. Oh, by the way, I should say I sorted my Christmas tree problem. Did you give Paulie the fiver? No, I, I, you did something, dodged. Emailed Hackney and I said I've got to join the rubbish collection. They said no, what you need to do, you can get a, you can get a big item taken away, just 23 quid to get your item taken away. Oh, that's all right. Yeah. Yeah. So if you live in Hackney, you just need to do like fill in a big item collection form. It's not called that. It can't be called.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah. You don't have to do the year long green recycling, but you've got a big item to take in. 23 green not bad. Or do this Rob, for Josh's Christmas tree problem, I recommend you re-listen to the small business shout out you did on season three, episode 24, 8.45. I only started listening to your podcast about six months ago, so I'm listening to all the old podcasts in between the new podcasts. Coincidentally, I've just listened to this week's podcast where Josh complained that the council wouldn't take his tree. And then one from
Starting point is 00:50:48 three years ago where you promote a charity that will collect and ship your tree for free. Oh, God. Christmas tree collection.com. Keep up the good work. Work. Becky. I mean, if you if you're still got the tree now, what is it, Feb? I've still got the deer out the front lit up. Christmas reindeer. Yeah. Oh my gosh. It's been too fucking windy and rainy and I was in Yeovil. Thank you very much to everyone that came to the shows and I enjoyed the show Yeovil but the three
Starting point is 00:51:15 out drive home in the rain on a Sunday hurt and I hope you all got home safe. Where does Nick stay, Rob? Where's Nick live? He lives in Essex so it's quite good actually. He's on the way through normally. Is he Nick Jenkins? No, different Nick. Oh, different Nick. Shout out to Nick Jenkins who did my last tour. No, shout out to Nick who's doing my current tour actually. Hi Josh and Rob. It would be great if you could shout out my girlfriend Amy's small business, the dress carousel.
Starting point is 00:51:49 That's really made me laugh arguing over nicks. Has Ali still got your duvet for the tour in a year's time? No, because I've still got it here because we've got it. Okay, the dress carousel. The dress carousel is based in the Midlands of Ireland. It allows people the choice to avoid fast fashion and save wardrobe space by renting stylish, high quality dresses for a range of events, such as weddings, parties,
Starting point is 00:52:14 hen dos, bridal wear, and many more. She is so hardworking and has started something amazing for people locally in rural Ireland that can't or won't want to travel to bigger cities to take the chance of ordering something online without trying it on. A shout out would be great for her grown business and I just think she would love more that is coming from ye. Why ye? As in Irish you not Kanye. I'm very proud of all she's achieving and can't wait to see what's coming down the road. The website is thedresscarousel.ie and thedresscarousel on Insta. Thanks
Starting point is 00:52:47 for your time, Damien. Josh, see you on Friday. Friday's a big one. Is it? Dunno. Bye.

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