Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S9 EP44: Harry Judd

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant musician (as the drummer from McFly), author, dancer and presenter - Harry Judd. You can listen to Harry's brilliant podcast 'Binge' HERE Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please subscribe and leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xx If you want to get in touch with the show with any correspondence, kids intro audio clips, small business shout outs, and more.... here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] Follow us on instagram: @parentinghell  Join the mailing list to be first to hear about live show dates and tickets, Parenting Hell merch and any other exciting news... MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener,

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And can you say Josh Whiddicombe? Josh Whiddicombe. Can you say Parenting Hell? Parenting Hell. Well done. They're very cute. Good morning, Rob, Josh and Michael. How? Good to hear. Well done. They're very cute. Good morning, Rob, Josh and Michael. Here is my soon to be two year old, Teddy,

saying your names. Great name. Teddy? Yeah. Good name, isn't it? Teddy, love it. Would you have gone with that if you'd had a boy, Rob? Well, that was in the running, I'm a big fan of that name.

We've been in practice since birth as I was having a listener prior to having kids. Thanks for the last and making me feel a ton better about how my week has gone in comparison to yours. Best wishes to you all. Alice, 370 months, 10 days. Teddy, 23 months, 25 days. From?

I'll give you two words. Posh North. Harrogate. Correct. Is it? Yeah. Love it. Posh North. Posh North. words posh north harrogate correct is it yeah love it posh north posh north yarm yarm this is a good game posh north posh north old liege old liege is nice old liege posh north posh north can you have a posh north? York York's nice it is lovely Chester Chester yeah

posh north Josh we've had a lot of correspondence we need to get over the line here. First of all, your toaster. A lot of people got in touch to give advice to you, Josh, about your toaster. Yeah. You've got that dual-lit one with the little timer. Yeah. And it said, please tell Josh not to force the timer. Okay. So it pops up, unplug from the wall and let the time a run you'll break the spring slash time if you force it. We've had ours for 27 years. That's from Joanna. They've had theirs since 1998. That's too long for a toaster. It can't be as quick as it used to be. Here are my issues with Joanna's theory.

Come on, love it. Let's have toaster beef. So with the dual it toaster Rob, have you got a dual it? I've had them. You know how it works? Yeah, they're quite expensive. Spread that over 27 years. True. I found it a lot of money for a toaster. Yeah. I'm Googling it. Sorry, can you hear me tapping? 200 quid? No. Fuck off. It can't be. 220 quid. Jesus. Fuck off. Is that what we paid for it? Well, yeah, unless you nicked it. Jesus fucking Christ. How the hell did we have raffle here though? Oh dear, that's a shame, isn't it? Really ruined your man of the people vibes, isn't it? That's a four toaster though. Is that a four one? It's a fourer, Rob. You've got a fourer. If you have the timer on, yeah, if it's not electrically plugged in, so if I'm turning it

off at the plug at the end of every toasting, then the next toasting invariably will be someone not realizing that it's not plugged in. And just putting it down, yep. Yeah, so it's too problematic to turn it off at the plug halfway through every toasting so what is your problem with it you don't need it to pop up on that kind of toaster no no no no my question was yeah put it on yeah and then your toast is done halfway through but the timer's still going yeah can i just leave the timer toasting nothing right if you turn it off from the plug that will stop it being a risk. But why don't you just set it for less time? I try and get it right, but you don't always get it right.

I think you need to work on your timing. Okay. Is that fair? Yeah, it is fair. That's a general point, not just with toasting. I think you just need to take responsibility for the length of time you need, Josh, I'd say. Well, I try.

That's my instinct. You try. And all you can do is try. Show me someone that can always time a piece of toast and I'll show you a liar. Okay, all right. When, when do you want me to do that all? Day to day. Now this is from producer Michael,

talking about the toilet attendant catchphrases. We had a huge response to the chat around if the female toilet attendants had songs, like the male ones. The answer was a resounding yes, Josh. Unlike the variety of different phrases in the men's toilet, it seems like the male ones. The answer was resounding yes, Josh. Unlike the variety of different phrases in the men's toilet, it seems like the female version had mostly the same song. And this was all around the world people emailed in from Josh. So this was global. Okay. Hi guys. Toilet songs and girls

toilets sang to the tune of London bridges falling down. The song went freshen up your poonani poonani no! freshen up your poonani for your boyfriend! Wow that is something else isn't it? How would one freshen up the poonani? Imagine the embarrassment of breaking into that song. Freshen up! It's a confident job isn't it? It's a confident job. But that's not where you spray it. Yeah you do not spray perfume down there. There must be fresh and hygiene wipes. You know the kind of wet wipes. No one's wet wiping. Femfresh. In the sink area of a toilet? No I think you'd probably buy one off the lady to take into the cubicle. Right okay.. Do email in, let us know whether Rob's right. If I had a working vagina, that's what I'd do.

What are the things you'd do if you had a working vagina? Have you had your haircut? No, it's a bit of a mess because I look like Michael Fabricant. You look like you've got frosted tips. Yeah, no, it's got no mousse or gel on it, so it's really blonde. Kind of Ke'an from Westlife. Basically, I went to bed last night, I didn't have a shower before, but I had not had a shower this morning, I just got up,

and it's sort of got some stuff in it, so it's holding its shape in weird positions. You had a haircut. Looked shorter. I did last week, yeah, yeah, well, it got very, very long. Your hair's now actually the same haircut that all teenage boys have, but not that you're trying to look like a teenage boy, that's just what the fashion is. That's now actually the same haircut that all teenage boys have, but not that you're trying to look like a teenage boy, that's just what the fashion is. That short round the back and sides and then just like loads of it on top. Yeah. Fair enough. You know, that's good.

Yeah, that's what I like. You've always had that kind of thing, but you used to go out at the side as well. Why has that stopped? It used to be long at the back and sides and I don't like that. Why not? Because it doesn't work for my facial shape. And it makes you look like you're just some kind of fucking student. And I'm 41. But if you're not happy, you're not happy. You've got to do what works for you. Exactly. Here we go. Hi, Robin Josh. This is more toilet attendant stuff. I was just listening to the episode we asked if anyone had done a poo with the no spray no layman in the toilet. Oh, yeah. I love it. Someone's responded. I don't remember anything I've Oh yeah. Not only have I done, what I love is someone's responded.

I don't remember anything I've ever said on this. Not only have I done a poo in the same toilet as the no spray no layman, but the bastard had stolen all the toilet roll and made me buy it back off him. Oh my God, that is great. Was a bit pissed off at the time, but I respect the hustle. Love the pod tube. I would be. That's amazing.

Oh my word. That is unfair, isn't it? Yeah. You'd have to go, excuse me, have you got the toilet roll? Oh God. How much do you reckon he charged or does he give it to you and then you've got... It used to be a quid, just a general, everything seemed to be a quid. A quid and you got a lollipop and an aftershave spray. Yeah.

Respect. Anyway, Josh, Harry Judd this week. Very excited for Harry Judd. Loved him. Great guy. Joe, what was what?'s got podcast about binging on TV and with Alex Jones, I was already sold, but I was like, have they just picked something because TV's popular? He's obsessed with TV. He knows his onions. He knows his onions. Good guy as well. Good looking. Anyone that goes running topless with Joel Dom, it's a friend in my book. Yeah. Oh, I've got something on that. Go on. I asked Nitro about them beating Keely Hodgkinson's time. Did he run with them?

No, but I asked him about it. Yeah. Well, we talk about it in the episode. Joel Domit, Harry Judd and a friend all tried to beat Keely Hodgkins time, but taking turns on a relay. And what did Nitro say? He said, actually, the differential between men's times and women's times is such that most 800-meter runners, male 800-meter runners, under 19s would be able to do that 800 meters. So actually, he didn't think it was as impressive as I did. Why don't you tell that pumped-up loser Nitro to shut his mouth, and if he don't, I'll

do it for him. Because he scares me. Do you know what's scary about him is he's so smiley and happy, but he could crush you. He could just choke you to death in seconds. Anyway, here's Harry Judd. Harry Judd, hello. Hi guys, how are you doing? Very good.

I've genuinely got a list of questions that are non-parenting related, but we will get to parenting. Don't worry. That's fine with me. I just have to start by saying that I am a fan of the podcast. My wife is a super fan though. Oh. Yeah, she's like next level.

She's devastated that I'm recording it here and not at home. She even was like, could I come into the studio and just like poke my head in and say hello? Oh, why not? How far's McFly HQ from your house? It's about 10 minutes. Oh, wow. Get her down. I was like, Izzy, please, just be cool. Just be cool, Izzy.

It's OK. I'll tell them. I'll tell them. So I feel like under extra pressure, because I know she is listening 100%. Oh, whatever you say, especially at the end, when we ask you what's amazing about her and what annoys you, that's a lot of pressure on that,

when you know they're going to hear. Yeah. Well, Harry, give us a rundown. How many kids you've got and what ages, just so we can set the scene for Josh. I see loads of questions about all sorts. Yeah. So I've got three. I've got three kids. I've got Lola who's eight. She's going to be nine in a couple of weeks actually. And then I've got Kit who's seven and Lockie who's three. Lockie. That's great. Is that short for something? Locklyn.

Yeah, that's right. Locklyn. Yes three. Lockie, that's a great name. Is that short for something? Loughlin. Yeah, that's right. Loughlin, yes. But basically, I was watching the TV. I was watching cricket and New Zealand were playing England and there's a New Zealand cricketer called Lockie Ferguson. And I was like, oh, Lockie, that's a cool name. And I was like, Izzy, what do you think of Lockie? And she was like, oh, yeah, I like that. We literally spell it L-O-C-K-I-E, which isn't the correct spelling, which my dad banged on about for about three weeks after he was born. Whatever the spelling is, is the correct spelling.

Whatever you choose. Exactly. But on his passport, is he lucky? He's lucky, yeah. L-O-C-K-I-E. Exactly. Yeah, do what you want, who cares? Yeah, well my son Kit as well, my dad's Christopher,

so Kit is short for Christopher. So when he was born, I thought, oh, my dad will be pleased about that. I was like, oh, dad, we've called him Kit, you know, short for Christopher. And he's like, oh, is he going to be christened Christopher? Your dad's never pleased, is he? Fuck it, hell, mate. I don't think me and your dad will get on, mate. You're a good guy, but he's already getting on my nerves.

No, and I was like, no, no, just Kit, dad. And he's like, that's a nickname. I was like, fuck it. I'm in a band actually, mate. I'm allowed to do this. It's actually quite rock and roll. Lola as well, Lola. Oh, that's a Spanish name.

I was like, oh, Jesus. Annie's race is fucking Lola. You need to get a new one. So you're at McFly HQ. Yes. All four McFly's got kids. Tom's got three, Danny's got one, and, Danny's got one and Dougie's got none. Dougie's got none. So does Dougie live a different lifestyle to the three of you?

Don't. Honestly, that guy, he literally, I mean, for a start, have you seen him recently? He looks about 10 years younger than all of us. What's he done? What's his secret? Not had kids yet. Not had kids. Not had kids. Not had kids. Too late Rob. God he does, Jesus Christ! He looks like a child star that's just decided to like pretend to be an adult. Oh my god he's... Yeah he won't tell me his secret, I've tried honestly. I was talking to Danny about this the other day, I was like like seriously what does Dougie do and he's like I don't know, he won't fucking tell me. Oh my God, he's so good looking. Fuck yeah now. He's so handsome, isn't he?

I know, I know. It's so annoying, isn't it? But you're very good looking as well. Yeah, but mate, no look, it's an inspiration to be around him. All three of them actually have just got into proper midlife crisis territory. They've all got motorbikes, so. Oh wow. Yeah, Dougie spends a lot of time out on his bike, basically waiting to make the next McFly record.

He's got some other bits going on that I can't say because I know he's like launching that this year, but he's got some other bits on. Yeah, but he's yeah, he's good man. But he's getting up when he wants. He sees our kids and he's amazing with them because obviously he's coming in with energy and yeah and he's brilliant with them. But yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah also he then sees us in rehearsals talking about our kids like moaning about life and he's like do you know what I'm not sure yeah I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm gonna do that Do you know what you are a good looking band I'm gonna say it and I'm not gonna rank them but I think you're second I'll take that I will take that Wow, do you know what yeah So who's last? Tom or Danny? Tom or Danny?

I'm not getting involved in that. I'm not naming the other three. You can place the other. I'm not going to make the other three, but I'm going to say you're second. Don't rank them. Don't rank them. Oh, nice. I'll tell Danny that later. Definitely. Yeah, I'd say that too. Are you going on tour, like, doing the versus thing with Busted? When's that? Has that happened yet? No, that's next. I think end of August it starts and then it's right through to November. So that's... Because you're like, you was always sort of like pitted against each other, now you're pals. Yeah. Is there any rivalry?

Yeah, there is... A little bit, you wind each other up a little bit, but does it ever go over the line? Because I think, because it's like the versus thing now, isn't it? And there's been a bit of like trash talk between you on PR. I don't know if you've seen this, Josh, try and wind each other up, which looks a bit like fun and games, but I think sometimes it can spill over. And then does it spill over? Yeah, do you know what? I haven't spoken about this, but yeah, so there is a little bit of genuine rivalry, obviously, but we do like get on with them. Our whole careers have like crossed over. And we've toured with them. I went to school with one of them. Tom went to school with one of them. Which one did you go to school with?

I went to school with Charlie. Oh, what a good looking school. What? That's not a phrase you should be saying. That is not a good phrase. No wonder teenage pregnancies are so high back in the 90s. Do you know what? It's really funny. I've got to say. Cheft was reminiscing on teenage boys faces. Oh, fucking hell. There's some hot teenage boys for you. I thought, do you know what? I need, you know, listen to several episodes of your podcast, but it's been a while. So I thought

I'll catch up before I come on. And I listened to your New Year's Day one. Within like three minutes, you were talking about public school boys and you were like I fucking hate public school boys and yeah and I was thinking okay I'll have to persuade them because I went to it. No I know a lot of my friends are public school boys. That was a joke. No no no no I know it's a joke. I was then thinking you know what though Charlie's the one that they were like like he looks

like an erection you mean? Yeah. He's a strong boy. He's like a big erection. I mean, yeah, a big erection. I mean, really posh, really annoyingly good looking. So I went away for six weeks before I moved to London. I went around like the East coast of America with my friends and we needed something to do. We got a set of smash hits, top trumps from the airport. And Charlie Simpson was the top Trump.

Was he the top? I'm not surprised. Because he had a four factor of 97%. Wow. That's huge. And also he's tall. He's tall. He is a fucking giant. So he was a great top Trump, Charlie. He is massive. Yeah, but anyway, back to the rivalry thing. So we had this press run and we'd had the banter. And me and Matt did the first one on Capitol and we kind of didn't really talk about how we were going to do it. And we just went in live and we just started sort of ripping into each other. It was fine. There's like a line. And then we had a couple of nights at the 02 in October and Busted came out and like halfway through the set, like interrupted the set. Matt like smashed one of Dougie's bass guitars and like challenged us to a tour, you know, that's how we kind of launched it.

Amazing. Nice. That wrestling. Yeah, exactly. That was the reference. Wrestling. Amazing. Before the gig, we had like an interview with The Sun and there was Busted and McFly and there was like a room for all the press people. And I kind of went in with some sort of diss about, you know, how we saved Busted from like, obscurity when we let them join us. And we did look busted. Yeah. And then James Bourne had obviously got this like line planned and he just

went like it's like he had perfected this script and he went so hard. And like on me as well. It was quite a personal attack. And the route actually he finished dissing me and it stopped. And it was literally like, OK. What did he say? There was something about, you know, how the busted had launched McFly. Anyway, it basically ended. I won't do it justice. It was a brilliant takedown.

But it ended with him being like, Charlie plays the drums and, you know, Charlie's not the best drummer in our band, but he's still better than you, or something. And I was like, and like the whole room just went quiet. It was like, and my bandmates, you know, who you'd hope would like stand up for me, were like, oh my God. So yeah, there's been a couple of moments. How's it going to work? Am I right in saying you're both on stage at the same time kind of dueling?

No. So when we did McBusted, which was without Charlie, that was six of us. So we kind of just like one band and we just played a load of McFly and Busted songs. But this is going to be verses. So one band will go on first. And we haven't fully figured it out. We sold it really well, but sounds like our tour, Josh. But we've kind of got a few. The references is, as you said, Rob, like WWF, you know? And we'll do some, they'll do some, we might cross over. But it won't just be we're on, they're on,

and it's kind of two separate concerts. There'll be some kind of... There'll be some crossover, yeah, that's the thing. Two rooms, the people choose which ones are going. Opposite ends of the O2. Yeah, well, do you know, wait, that's what we talked about. We talked about doing it around, and like there's loads of ideas, but I think, you know, moments maybe with Danny and Charlie

doing like a sing-off kind of thing and then like a big drum solos. Big drum solos between me and Charlie. Yeah. So yeah, it should be a lot of fun. Like I think there's not many bands that could kind of pull this off because it's got that real like pop element to it with the whole like marketing and the fun side of it. But obviously the two bands like cross over massively. So I mean, it's so well. And do you all hang out backstage? Yeah, yeah, we will for sure. Like you and James, me and James play a lot of table tennis backstage, a lot of ping pong. So yeah, mate, fucking trust me. Do you know what out of the the, how many? There's seven of us.

I think there's only like two or three of the band members that actually drink now. Like it's very unrock and roll. Yeah, it's very unrock and roll. Yeah, look, Matt's awesome. They're all great. I get on really well with Matt. I've kind of gotten to know Charlie better since doing the whole versus launch and he's a lot of fun and yeah, it's going to be good. Looking forward to it. So on tour, do you take the kids on tour or do you just keep it separate and they might come to a show

but they're not with you the whole time? Yeah, exactly that. I mean, obviously there are two of them are at school and one's at nursery. So the last McFly tour we did, in fact, I sat down with my wife and we went over the Busted versus McFly dates and we've kind of gone through a whole schedule

of when I can come home. There's a week in Dublin when it's half term. We're doing Dublin, Belfast, and I think another venue. So they're just going to come out to Ireland for a week. So yeah, we make it work. I mean, it's kind of quite intense, like when they're there on tour, because they're in the hotel with you, and then they come to like the sound checks and they're just running around like, and then also Tom's kids, he's got three boys, I've got three. So it's just kind of chaos and they want to get involved in the sound check and then they want to watch the gig and you're like worried about where they're gonna sit and who's looking after them and if I'm honest

It's quite stressful. But my son in particular my middle son kit. He is Absolutely like guitar obsessed. So it's all he wants to do is come to any gig we have. Oh, that's nice. What does Dougie do when all of you are doing that? He must be like, gets fucking hell. This isn't what I got in a band to run a crash. Do you know what?

It is a massive compromise for him, but we try and have like separate dressing rooms, like a family room. So there is a lot of like chewing kids out of rooms and stuff. Yeah, it is quite full on. But obviously, on tour, it's not possible to have them with you the whole time. I mean, the idea of touring time for me is during term time because then yeah, then they can't come. That's what I try and do.

When you're not in tour though, what's your daily look? I know you do your podcast with Alex Jones as well. Yeah, you doing the school run? Are you getting up getting them ready? Or how much are you splitting out with your partner when you're not touring or working too much? Yeah, this is where I have to be completely honest. Oh yeah, because she's listening. She's listening. Oh, here we go.

We all have our roles as parents, right? Sounds like yours is doing fuck all at the moment. I listened to the Vogue Williams, so she was talking about Spencer, and I was like, I'm pretty sure I do more than him. He sounds like he does nothing. You've never been for a sauna at 5.30pm.

Yeah, I was like, that guy has got it made. So Izzy's definitely better in the mornings. At the moment, the setup we've got, I take Lockie to nursery and she takes Kit and Lola to school. Obviously that changes, but yeah, I mean, this is gonna sound awful, but she does this, so I'm just gonna like take it, right? She's so good in the morning, she gets up with them,

and I get up too, but she, I'd say most mornings, like brings me a cup of tea or coffee. I do that for Rose, I do that for Rose. It's not the end of the world doing that. I don't, I feel a little bit guilty. But this is the thing. So Izzy's mom and dad, in their relationship, the dad makes her mom a coffee in the morning. I don't know. I think there's just two types of people in a relationship. Jason Vale There's two types of people.

Will Barron Yeah, and you're the better one. Izzy's the better one. Jason Vale No, no, no. Because there's no proof that you do morning. There's no proof you're good in the mornings. It's not like you spend the whole of December doing magic breakfast, sounding peppy from 6am, is it? Your poor wife having to get an Uber from your house to the studio to bring you your kids. I was listening to you all December and, do you know what? you sounded knackered mate. Do you know someone told me someone said oh Josh said he listens to magic because I was really excited by that I told

I love it. He loves it. I told Harriet we talked about you on the show for a bit I was wondering if you might have been listening but I missed that bit. Oh I have it on literally the whole of December last week in November. 100% Christmas Josh it's 100% Christmas. It's 100% Christmas. It's 100% It's 100% Christmas. What was that like with your kids then? What time are you going to bed and getting up? Great, because you're just gone, you're out of the way. But I mean, I think quite

full on for Izzy, because she was then doing the kind of two different drops. So generally, when I'm not touring or working, I drop the kids off and I'm really into running at the moment. So I'll go like this morning, I drop Lockie off at nursery and then I go off for a run. And then I often come into the studio, play a bit of drums. I might be obviously recording this podcast out with Alex, doing kind of all sorts of random things. I mean, January, February is looking pretty quiet boys. I'm okay with that.

December to be fair must have been fucking knackering doing a breakfast show. Well September, October, November, December were all very busy. Was that just like a one month cover job then? Yeah, it was a cover job. So Gok Wan is the new presenter and he was off doing panto. So I was filling in for Gok for a month. The best month to fill in for though, right? Yeah, it was. 100% Christmas. Yeah, they were happy.

They were like really nice and they were like, oh, we'll have you back in when GOC's gone. And I really enjoyed it. So hopefully I might be doing a few more bits of magic. We'll see. What about cricket presenting? Because you're obsessed with cricket. Yes.

Your cricket bat collection. Harry Cole on my radio show when we were talking about obsessions. I don't normally be allowed to have guests in, but he was in the studio. We had a right old laugh chatting about cricket bats. And I love anyone that's obsessed with something. So are these famous cricket bats or are they like different models of cricket bats? Yeah, so they're nostalgic cricket bats for me. So they're cricket bats from the 90s.

So it'd be like Graham Thorpe's cricket bat. I'm not looking to get a players, but I'm looking to get the actual, so the make. Yeah, like Rob Wood with a football shirt. Exactly. Exactly. So- Like the 1997 version of that bat. Exactly. That was used in the ashes. Oh, wow.

Yeah. So for example, when, you know, you might get, for you, like a Liverpool kit that's, say, got the different sponsor and the different design. So for me, I've got, you know, you've had a Grey Nichols, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I've got, you know, the Power Spot, I've got the... I don't know any of this because I've had Sex with a Woman. I've got the Diner Drive, the Sabre, the Scoop. The Scoop!

I've got all the Grey Nichols, I've got all the Kookaburras, I've got Duncan Fernley, I've got like, you name it, I've pretty much got the lot. It started at like beginning of lockdown, just bored, on eBay. And I was like, and I'd always thought about it. And yeah, once I got one, that was it. It was just... And how are they displayed? I love this. So we just moved house,

so they haven't got them up in a new place, but I'm going to. I got these shelves like off Etsy that seemingly made for a crooked back display. Oh yeah, yeah. They kind of just got a little lip on it, so the back just sits in perfectly. Nice. I had them at my old house next to my drum kit, and just got a little lip on it so the bat just sits in perfectly. Nice.

I had them at my old house next to my drum kit and I put a little LED strip underneath. Oh, very nice. It looked so nice. Honestly, it looks amazing. Does Izzy like it? I mean, I had a bit of explaining to do each time, like a cricket bat shaped parcel would come through. So when the door would go, I'd be like, shit, I need to answer that.

I can get away with hiding football shirts, it's hard to hide a cricket bat. It is. But the thing is, even people that don't like cricket, they look beautiful on a wall, trust me. Also, these are the words, because when I buy a sticker album, because I'm trying to buy all the sticker albums, completed football sticker albums, from up to about the end of the 90s, from the start of the 70s. And these are the words you want to use when they arrive. And you can use this for football shirts, Rob. They actually hold their value. So you're not losing any money on this. You know, as well as I do, Josh, I'm never fucking selling those creepypastas. I know.

I know. But your children will be able to immediately after your death. But you know the problem with that is they'll flood the... I heard about a celebrity, I don't know if this is true, right? His collection of comic books is so vast that he's had to start selling them off bit by bit because if he died and his kids sold the whole of them, the market would collapse because the market would get flooded. So if you die, Harry, no, no thanks. And your kids need to bleed out those cricket bats because it will flood the market if they will see. Do you know what? I think I have been controlling

the market of 90s cricket bats because I noticed the prices go up a bit because I was talking about it in interviews and things like I was then getting DMs on Instagram from like these guys that have them. Oh, and then seeing the prices gone, I don't think I'm single-handedly responsible for that. I don't know if there's many other collectors are there? I would say it's a busy market. Yeah, but you know when you get on eBay and it gets to the auction and it's like the countdown thing, there's a couple of other nerds out there because I'm not the only one like, and it's a real rush, isn't it? It's a real adrenaline rush

when you're bidding for a cricket bat and there's like 10 seconds left. And do you know who it is, mate? It's at James Busted Bourne has just bidded you up 300 quid. Big Charlie's gonna come out using those drumsticks. But you know what, I have actually put a sock to it because I've almost got every single one I'd like. But the thing is then- Is there one you're looking for? One you're on the smith? Well, the thing is you then start to see examples that are better than what you've got. So you're thinking, well, actually I'd like- Oh, Les Nicks. Yeah, I'd like that Grey Nichols Sabre, because that is a better example of the one I've got. For my museum.

But then I have to go into selling territory. I mean, I've got duplicates of certain bats, but- Why do you want them? Could you not afford them when you were younger, or you were not allowed them? Because normally, collectors when they're older is people that couldn't afford it or weren't allowed it. And then when they get their own money, it becomes a bit excessive because it's sort of like you're in your own child's brain buying it, not in your adult's brain. I think it's just I hit a certain age where just the 90s became hugely nostalgic. And

it was like, I had always talked about, you know, talked to my mates about cricket and love a bit of cricket. And then suddenly, I think I must have been 34, 35 and that's when you hit that age where it's that nostalgia is so powerful. So I don't know, I just guess once I'd got one and you know, did a bit of shadow batting at home and I was like... Did your kids play cricket? My daughter loves anything, she'll try anything. My middle son is not really fussed about sport at all, but he just wants to play guitar. But my three year old, he loves a ball. So he's the great hope. Do you want to give him like a 90s bat to play with as like a...

Yeah, well, he might be the one that inherits the collection. But yeah, I'm hoping he might be into it because my son and daughter not, yeah, not so fast about cricket. Yeah, I think inheriting a collection of cricket bats, you are on eBay immediately to see how much that's worth. You're not like, Do you think it is a dad's of a certain age, right? And I think there is a thing you reach a certain age and obviously we're lucky that we've got disposable income, but we haven't really got, we're looking for something to be into. Do you know what I mean? And CDs and DVDs, which I used to buy, they don't really exist anymore.

Yeah. We're not allowed posters because our wives control whatever go on the wall in our houses. I don't know about you, but... So you end up going, I need an outlet for my weirdness. All of my posters and things are at my mum and dad's house because, so basically I want to get a little studio in the garden. Yeah. And that's what I'm hoping, you know, after this tour, we'll get a little studio in the garden. And that's where I'll have my dance board, where I have my cricket bats on the wall, my drum kit,

my bits of kind of collectible things that I've gotten over the years to put up. For example, even like my Strictly Glitter Ball. Oh, don't you fucking rub that in my face. It's one Strictly. Harry Judd is living the life Josh wants. He's in a band. He likes cricket. He's got bats. He's one Strictly. And he presents Magic Christmas. Do you know what? Like me, he's the second best looking person in the people he works with.

Alex Brooker's a good looking guy. Alex Brooker's a good looking guy. Yes, that's not even allowed on display in our house. What, the glitter ball? It's a bit tacky to be fair. No, the glitter ball, if you've won strictly, that's gotta be up in the house. I'm telling you, if you saw that, if you saw the actual glitter ball, I'm not sure. Is it badly made?

You get given the big one that you see on the show to do the photo with, and immediately taken back off you, and then handed this one that looks like it was made by a 15 year old in GCSE design. I've blue tacked the S back on like it is like the bits of mirror balls for it's really... Harry, I think if I was you, I'd get a good one of it made. Get someone to make it, get it commissioned. And just pretend because no one's gonna... unless, you know, Kelvin Fletcher comes around and double checks. Or Chris McCorsland comes around. I mean, he wouldn't be out of 10 anyway. But...

And hit Matt's Chris McCorsland. Swipe it over. Just come to say hi, Chris, because I did it with all the new Strictly winners. Well done, though. Can I see the glitter ball? I just want to check they've given you the right one. Yeah, oh yeah yeah. Straight. Great mime noise by the way. Or even if you had a good one though, I think it's done.

You haven't got it there then? It's at home? No, it's in the loft genuinely, but if someone comes over and you've got it up on your wall, it's a bit cringe isn't it? To be like, oh yeah. No, I think that a glitter ball's good fun. What year did you win and who did you beat? Who did I beat?

So I won in 2011. Oh, that's a long time ago. I know, still talking about it, still bringing it up and interviews. That was a tough one, but that was the ones I still used to knock you about. The old school. My final was.

I don't know if I'll fuck you a fighter back in the day. Yeah, mate, there was no chaperones, mate. It was intense. My final was Jason Donovan and Chelsea Healy. Oh, wow. Lovely. See, one straight... Have you done The Jungle? No, no. Dougie did The Jungle the same year that I did The Jungle, and he won it.

Oh, the same year you did Strictly? Yeah, he won the... It was a good year, yeah, yeah. And then obviously Danny's just done it. Danny's just won it. Have you ever met Richard Osman? Richard Osman lives near where I live, so I often... mind you, he... He's a huge McFly fan.

Did you know this? He is, yeah, yeah, I did know this. And he's not just like, oh yeah, I love McFly. No. It's all about you, Stargirl, good songs. He like knows album tracks. Yeah, he's a massive McFly fan. Genuinely, yeah.

No, it's really massive McFly fan. Genuinely, yeah, no, it's really great, it's nice. On the McFly fans, there was a journalist and he was quite harsh, right, back in the day, but this is his review of McFly, right? Oh god, is this okay to do? No, no, no, because he was harsh on everyone. So he slagged off Maroon 5, he slagged off... Quite rightly. Jamelia, he slagged off Lamar. I think I'm going to get on withagged off Lamar I think you would actually well this is what he said about McFly as hard as I try it's impossible to be cynical about these three minutes of bouncing pop perfection this is five colors in her hair your debut single yeah that's right yeah so they've stolen

the guitar line from gay bar and the the hook to Mrs. Robinson and the image of busted but who really cares when they've created a song this great? Well he's had a dig though, hasn't he? He's had a fucking, that has had a couple of slaps. If there's a better single than this this year, I look forward to hearing it. Oh, that is nice. Do you know who that is? The words of Josh Whiddicombe from Manchester Student Direct.

No, no, no way! You little bitch! That's amazing. Wait, read that again. Now I know that was you. Go on. Read that again. As hard as I try,

because I was such a lame, it's impossible to be cynical about these three minutes of bouncing pop perfection. So they've stolen the guitar line from Gay Bar, the hook from Mrs. Robinson. All right. Nyeh, nye bar, the hook from Mrs Robinson. Alright. Nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh, nyeh,

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When we were 20, we were all wankers, right? Absolutely. Yeah. I still am. The image of busted, but who really cares when they've created a song this great? If there's a better single this year, I look forward to hearing it.

Look at that. Lovely review. There we go. I'll take that. Thank you, Josh. Thank you. Sure, babe. Sure, babe. Sure, babe. Sure, babe. What an awful wanker. What an awful wanker. I'm going to praise them, but I still need to show

some sort of level of intellectual. I know. Do you know what, Rob? Someone from Manchester got in touch with me and said, I've just found all these things that you wrote. Send them to me. Oh my God, we've got to do more of them. What else did you review? They are just... I come across as such a... Sorry to turn the air blue. Five colors in your words at the moment. Sorry, Rob. Well, that's how someone described us in NME,

probably a couple of years after your review. That was literally... That was my dream. A picture of us. And then underneath, right to left, dickhead, wanker and prick. Oh god. Fuck.

Which one were you? Any of the four. Yes, I'm prick. What a win. I'm only prick. I'd rather be dickhead out of that four option. I can imagine. It was so intense.

Oh mate. Yeah. How did you deal with that though? I'm gonna get back to kids in a bit but like that online scrutiny and from the press because You can imagine it was so intense. Oh, mate. Yeah. How did you deal with that though? I will get back to kids in a bit, but like that online scrutiny and from the press, because you were loved, but also from that type of person, you were hated. You were almost like the poster boys of this is what's wrong with music, even though... I was sticking my neck out for you, just so you know.

Do you know what? It was hard at times because we'd come from... I was 17 when I joined the band. Dougie was 15. Danny and Tom were 17 as well. I mean, Tom was very much like had a pop sensibility and what have you, but Danny, he was really into like, he grew up on Springsteen and Oasis and Verve and all that stuff. So he went to this audition with his guitar, wanting to be in that kind of band. So the early stages of McFly was like, and the same for me, like

I was into rock music, I was into heavy music as a teenager, I kind of stumbled across this audition, met these super talented guys who were brilliant musicians, great singers, were writing these songs and we were in rehearsals together. And within six to eight months, we were, I think that was when Five Colors of the Hair came out by the time Dougie had joined and it was number one and suddenly making these music videos and you're on tour and you know, objectively like we look back, I mean not even look back, I remember at the time like we hated the Five Colours and the Hair Music video, we like this is so lame, this is so embarrassing. What was the video sorry?

It was like that really kind of colourful like primary colours like cringy sort of, yeah, I mean it's hard to slag it off because obviously it was really successful and it's nostalgic for a lot of people. So obviously I do have fond memories, but it's a great song despite stealing the guitar line from gay bar on the yeah. So yeah, like, I kind of got why people had a problem with us. But also, I knew we were like, good. Yeah, you were great. You still are. Particularly Tom and Danny, a lot of like legit talent in this band, like writing these songs. Like we kind of filled in at the time for the boy bands.

I busted had started that. So soon as Busted were out and then we came along, boy bands were just out of fashion completely. Yeah. And we were the sort of new style of boy bands, these boys with guitars. And so I got like that really annoyed people. But I think for us, we were like, hey, we're a real band.

We write our songs, we play our instruments. And I think ultimately that's why, I don't think I know, that's why Charlie left Busted. He couldn't hack it. Like he did want to be in a real band, you know. Where he was in Fightstar. He still is in Fightstar, isn't he? Yeah, well, they did a show last year at Wembley, I think, they sort of first show in Fightstar. He still is in Fightstar, isn't he? Yeah, well they did a show last year at Wembley, I think they sort of first show in a while, and it really affected Charlie and he couldn't hack it. And so there were times it was a

bit annoying, but ultimately we were having success. We were loving it. It was a lot of fun and thankfully still is. So yeah. And with your kids' taste and stuff, are they into your music? Yeah, at the moment, yeah, because they haven't realized that obviously dad is super embarrassing. But I'm sure they will one day. But we just released our eighth album last year, or the year before last. And like, you know, obviously there's been an evolution of the band and our latest album's a lot, you know, guitar heavy, it's much more of a rock album. So my son who's seven who like loves rock music thinks it's the coolest thing ever.

That's amazing. So I think, you know, as time goes on, our music will continue to kind of progress. Hopefully they'll like it. That's amazing to still like, because obviously comedy, you know, is a lot more steady as a job, I think, do you know what I mean? Yeah. But most bands don't get to eight albums. No. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But most bands don't get to eight albums. No. Do you know what I mean? And most bands don't get to eight albums, generally, because they end up hating each other because they've gone from friends to business partners, which is a really

difficult thing to do. Really difficult and also the creative element as well. Yeah. You've got four different creative opinions and yeah, it's difficult at times. You're exactly right. It's often not through lack of success. It's through people just falling out. Yeah. And I think that's been our key to kind of longevity is that we just like get on

really well. I mean, they're classic. They're good. How'd you get on with Alex Jones? Um, yeah, I certainly don't remember. How'd you get on with Alex Jones? Erm, yeah. As a new band member. I get on very well with Alex. It's a subtle bit of opportunity for the PR. We love Alex Jones, me and Rob.

Big fans of Alex Jones. We're huge, huge fans of Alex Jones. And binging. Josh used to love binging, didn't you Josh? I loved binging so much that I now can't bing at all. Binging what, TV shows or? No, I used to love binging alcohol, but now I can't binge at all. What, binging what, TV shows or? No, I used to love binging alcohol, but now I can't, I can't binge anymore. I see, I see. He's binged enough.

Yeah. Let's put it this way. I'd have a lot of guys that I could hang out with on the Curran McFly and Busted tour. Let's put it that way. Sure, sure. Okay. It's pretty sober backstage on our tour. Talk to us about binging.

Binge with an exclamation mark, the podcast. I know, right? Yeah. So binge. So me and Alex, we actually met on Strictly in 2011. She did the same, same series as me. Oh, nice. Yeah. And as you know, you'll agree. Where did she go out? She got to the semis. It was, yeah, it wasn't a hard year. It wasn't, it was. I saw a really funny clip of you and Alex on your podcast with I think it's Angela Scanlon. Yes. Where she said she hated Wicked and your reaction was amazing. I'm not a Wicked fan. I struggle with it.

And the way you were getting ready to go, yeah, weren't it amazing? She was like, what a loader of it. I know. She built it up. I was like, yes, another big Wiki fan. Here we go. She's like, that's fucking shite. I was literally, it just floored me. I didn't know what to say. That's so funny. Yeah, she was the last guest on our podcast. So me and Alex have been friends since 2011. And she has just moved actually, but she lived literally around the corner from me. So we'd always see each other. And we did the one show together. I did a bit of co-presenting with her on the one show.

And we used to like backstage the one show chat about, you know, as you do, what you're watching, what you're enjoying and just pre the show whilst we're doing script rehearsals. And I think it was one of those classic things one day where it was like, oh, this would make a good podcast. Yeah. We've been there, mate. We've been there.

Yeah, exactly. So we thought like, so let's give it a go. And what episode are we on, James? 33. I was literally about to say 10. I think we're on episode 10. That's a good sign though, because it means you're enjoying it. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. And you have guests on. Yeah, we have guests on every week. We started, it's really original, right? We have guests on. We started recording in Central

and Ala just moved out of London. So I quickly suggested that we recorded at McFly's studio, McFly HQ. McFly HQ, yeah. So that's a lot easier for her. So we record, yeah, once a week, we have guests on and we have a catch up. I mean, obviously she's got three kids as well,

so we kind of have a similar life. Do you have time to binge? There's always time to binge mate. When you're binging? I'm binging when the kids are in bed. So my nightly routine and honestly, I get annoyed when I have like an evening thing scheduled. Like I, nothing makes me happier than getting my kids to bed and then just watching a couple of episodes or something with a bit of Choccy and some sparkling water The class divide right I do my milk and digestive biscuits pre-bed. Yeah. Yes, but what's your chocolate you have when you're binging

I went through a really worrying phase of doing Tony's chocolate every night Oh so good and you know those big bars they do? You weren't knocking one of them out a night are you? I'm knocking one of them a night. One of them a night. Fucking hell. Oh Judd, why are you not a big fat bastard? Initially, no wonder you're only number two. Dougie's not doing that. He is not. I can't say he's number one. So it was becoming a problem. Yeah, too fucking right mate. You're binging more than one way. So I've managed to break that so I'm on dark chocolate now. So yeah, right. So dark Tonys? No, not dark Tonys. Just whatever Izzy's got in the fridge. But I do Tonys once a week on a Saturday night.

Oh, there he is. There he bloody is. night. So I go into my after I've had dinner on a Saturday evening at like both the boys were in bed Lola's like with Izzy when playing a game or whatever and I'll wander off down to the local newsagent and he's me and this guy I've got a bit of a rapport now. I walk in I'm like you know you know Saturday night, and I get my salted caramel Tonys and I break it up, put it into a bowl. Oh! Yes. Like it's popcorn?

My wife was getting so pissed off with the little bits of chocolate getting into the duvet. So have it in bed. Oh, so you have it in bed? Okay, yeah, mate, I go to bed, I put it in a little bowl and I lie down. What time are you going to bed? At 8.30.

And that's for the night? That's me done. No. So you have your Tony Shockler in a little bowl. This is fucking brilliant. With my laptop, iPad sorry, iPad on the chest. On the chest face perfectly so it's like right there. And is Izzy next to you or is she getting on with her life? No she's getting on with her life? No, she's getting on with her life. So you're like, every Saturday, the family weekend, you take yourself off alone, to the shop alone, not even with your kids to get sweets. Well, Lola might come with me, she might like,

you know, she's got rollerblades for Christmas, so I'll take her around the block in a roller braids. She might be, okay, she's in line skating down there. Yeah, yeah. But then you go to bed at 8.30. I try and go to bed at 8.30 every night. Really? If I'm in bed after 9, I'm pretty pissed off. So what time are you getting up?

About 6.30. I'm gonna, no Izzy's listening, 7. I can't lie. Whenever she brings me my coffee, basically. Did you get into that early bedtime from the radio or have you always been like that? I kind of, since kids I've always been a bit like that. And also I'm really, I run a lot. I'm like training for a marathon.

I'm knackered. No wonder you're eating so much fucking Tony's. Yeah, you can get away with it. It's like 850 calories in a bar of Tony's. I do find if I do proper sport in the day, like cardio, I can go to sleep well easy in the evening. It doesn't, it obviously makes a massive difference. And what times lights out in the Judd bed? Lights out basically when I've passed out with Tony's in my mouth. So you've eaten all the Tony's. I've eaten all the Tony's I reckon about...

What you're watching one episode? No it depends how good it is. I've also done two episodes. I've finished off Rogue Heroes SES and then I started Squid Games Season 2. You do binge, don't you? Mate, I do binge. I love it. When you hear someone's doing a podcast about telly, it's like, yeah, we'll watch a bit of telly. But you're into it. Yeah, I'm really into it. Life's sports stopped me binging recently because there's so much football on. It's

hard to get the binge in when there's football on. Yeah. What about you? Presumably a cricket fan. That's fucking ours, isn't it? I'm only really watching England Test Match cricket. Or they're like one day internationals. You're only interested in the bats from the 90s. Yeah, exactly. What bat are they using? Quick scroll of that on Instagram and then off to this. No, but also a lot of international cricket, they're playing abroad. It's like in the middle of the night, you know? But the ashes, that's the main event.

Middle of the night is quarter past six for Harry though, the bat. that's the main event. Middle of the night is quarter past six for Harry though, the time we're going to sleep. Can I ask your opinion on the coffee situation? In our house, Lou will get up about 6.30, I'll get up about seven-ish. If I'm at home and not working or on tour, I'll do the school run. She'll be the one leading the charge, getting them ready, but I'll take them and do whatever. Then we work out the rest of the week from there. In the morning, Lou goes downstairs and obviously is getting the kids breakfast and we'll make herself a coffee. So I'll always come downstairs and I'll say, would you like a coffee?

And I have to go make one on the machine. But normally she's already made herself one. And she'll go, no, I've made myself one. And I sort of think- Oh, I know where this is going. You're thinking she should have made me one. I sort of think she knows I'm going downstairs. Could she possibly, once she's made her, just quickly... I can't wait for Lou's response on this. Machine it, press start, and then it's there. These are the little micro, like, situations in a marriage that eventually lead to divorce.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's all these little things that... that you're a little bit pissed off. Is it just a button, Rob, or is it a feel the thing and then do that? We've got like a machine that like grinds the bean, right? So she'd have to smash out her bean and then... I don't know if we've got time for that Rob. I'd have to shrug her back with it. Before the school run! What are you talking about? I'm on the loose side here, I don't think you're making unnecessary damage.

So she'll have to get rid of the ground bean coffee bean and then she'll have to put it in and twist it to grind again and then put it in the middle and press. Brew. Yeah. But like I'm sort of passively aggressive and go, would you like a coffee? Because I sort of know she's done one. Has this ever come up? No. So it's the first time I've ever said it out loud to anyone apart from me in my own head. So every time you offer her a coffee is a passive aggressive offer. I imagine so. Cause I already know she's probably done one for her and she goes, Oh,

that was, I've got one. And a bit like, you know, that's so good. No, my, so I'm just lucky man. Izzy's amazing. She just gets, and often this is what really pisses my mates off. Yeah, is I say she'll I'll hear the sort of clink of the mug on the coaster and then she'll put her hand on my shoulder just really gently to tell you stop wanking. Get that cricket bat out your ass and stop wanking. He's grinding his coffee bean up there. Disgusting.

She knows not to interrupt me. She'll gently put her hand on my shoulder. Morning sweetheart. And you know, it's what a lovely way to start the day. That is lovely, isn't it? That is nice. But you know, my version is, so I'll always get up on the weekends with the kids. And the other week, the other Saturday, I got up, I had to get in my dressing gown, I sort of shuffled downstairs, and I'd make myself a coffee and I'd just sit in the chair

in the corner room and just literally, I just can't function. And I'm like, make Lola, yeah, Lola. Do you not make Izzy a coffee and leave it upstairs? Or would that be disruptive because she's sleeping? Yeah, let her sleep. And what time is this? Six is yeah, six maybe. I mean, recently it's been like my boys have been up at like 4.35. It's been absolutely brutal. But recently it's been better. It's about 6.30. And I guard the door so that they don't go through and let the dog upstairs and wake her up. And so

but my daughter's now eight. I'm like, can you just do the cereal? She's so great, my daughter. She's like, yes, daddy, of course, daddy. She must be on the verge of making her own breakfast and stuff, right? Oh, she's making breakfast. She's making the boys breakfast. She's doing the whole thing. So it's absolutely brilliant. So are you needed? Are you needed? So when Izzy gets up, and don't get me wrong, so when I was doing magic, I was getting up and I was like always making sure I do the dishwash know, like, so when I was doing magic, I was getting up and I was like, always making sure I do the dishwashers, like those little things, so that when she gets up,

it's like all the dishwasher's done, you know? Tough dishwasher though, in it, 4 a.m. Doing that quiet. It's a struggle. Yeah, so that's my payback one or two mornings of a weekend and- It's the weekend you take the lead, yeah? Take the lead, yeah.

I mean, she gets up and obviously nothing's been done. I'm still in my dressing gown. She gets up and like, can I have a shower now, please? I'm the same, like I can't function in the morning. So if I say to her, I'll do it all, let me do it. But then she sits there fully awake, looking at me like pack the wrong thing in a bag, like quite, but then like, and then he's like, no, I'll just do it. And then you take them. So that's how we sort of divvy it out. But yeah, I'm also like, I mean, Izzy is amazing. I don't know how she does it. Like she does so

much for the kids admin. I just can't get my head around it. I do try and do the things I know she doesn't want to do all the boring jobs like, you know, I quite tied him was sawing out the house, the garden, doing the bins up down the dump at least once a week, which is not a chore, because I love that's a fun. Yeah, I love the tip, as we know. I find on the weekend with the kids, I like to just get them out, like being inside can just be, yeah. So I'm very out to be like, no, no, you stay like, come on everyone, let's go.

So that's my, whereas her, she doesn't particularly enjoy the playground, that's our whole situation. So, you know, it works, we've got our jobs, and I think we're- Had a little coffee in the morning with a hand on the shoulder. I know. Jesus. Mid-wank as well. It's... Mid-wank.

Mid-jart. Mid-jart. Obviously, as Rob said, you know, you are an expert in binging. What would you recommend as a, like, something we might not know that we should watch? And also something for kids maybe. I don't know if you cover stuff for kids as much. Yeah, a little bit of kid stuff, but recently the one I've been recommending to people that not many people have heard of is,

it's on Disney Plus, it's called Mr. In-Between. Ooh, yeah. Have you heard of Mr. In-Between? No, no. I'm Googling. Yeah, it's absolutely. He's the second best looking man in a boy band. Oh, my friend showed me clips of this, but I didn't know where I could access

it in the UK. This is a great Reco. I've loads of people talking about it. Yes. So talk to me about Mr. In Between. So Mr. In Between is, it's about this Ozzy guy who's got a young daughter, he's separated from his ex and he's basically he's a hit man. So it's kind of got this huge contrast between him as a, you know, as a dad looking after his daughter and then just casually going off and slaughtering people.

And does that remind you of your family versus McFly life? It's very similar actually. Yeah. It's very similar. What I loved about this show is that he, and actually it goes right back to the story of how it was made. He, I think he was originally, he was an actor and he wrote the story and he was a taxi driver, couldn't get it made. He eventually made it on a really small budget. Some big producer saw it, loved it, invested a bit of money to like re-edit it and get a score made for it. And then they went around to all the big studios trying to sell it and no one would take it because

they wanted the main guy to be the star in it. And they were just like, no, it needs a big name attached to it. And they just stuck to their guns and eventually someone made it and it's become this massive sort of, well, it was a cult hit, but I think it's kind of gone. And is it finished now? It's finished. Yeah, it's absolutely brilliant. What's quite nice about that is it's finished and it's three series. There's 26 episodes. Sometimes there's big things I've missed, like I've never watched The Sopranos, but it feels so intimidate, daunting, cause you're like, fucking hell. And that's the big thing for me is, it's rare.

Like my favorite series, often when they finish on season two or season three, once they start going past season three and four, it just starts to get a bit tedious. Like Dexter, I love Dexter, but it went a bit shit towards the end. Yeah, it's because obviously like they're having these huge hits and then they just want to keep going because they're making loads of money and it's like they're just kind of making it up as

it goes along. Taskmaster. Is that four episodes a year? Parenting house. That would be my big recommendation for you too. I mean, what kind of things do you like? I love the Penguin. I thought that was amazing. How was that good? I just finished The Penguin. I loved The Penguin. That was brilliant, wasn't it?

I loved it. That was amazing. How quickly were you Googling, like, the prosthetics of Colin Farrell? Because it's just crazy, isn't it? Yeah, I think I'd already seen all those sort of TikToks about him getting ready for it. But like, the gentleman thing was, that's how I was watching it. I didn't think of that because I felt like I was watching another actor. Mate, same thing. I completely forgot. Yeah. And then I think episode two, I was like, hang on, that's how I was watching it. I didn't think of that because I felt like I was watching another actor. Same thing, I completely forgot.

And then I think episode two I was like, hang on, that's Colin Farrell. I knew Colin Farrell did it more from like social media videos, but then when I was watching the show, it felt like it was a completely different actor. It was amazing. It felt like a breakthrough performance from a new person. Yeah, the Penguin's brilliant. So I'm binging hard and then coming chatting to Alex about it. And no, it's been a lot of fun. We've had some great guests.

Yeah, we've got a record today, so. Oh, who have you got on today? Amelia Fox. Oh, that's a good booking. Silent Witness. Silent Witness. Silent Witness. I found her brother was silent.

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coffee is a little bit too hot when I bring it to you in the morning and touch your shoulder gently to wake you. No it's normally a bit too cold actually that would be my that would be my comparison. No do you know what Izzy is absolutely incredible we wouldn't have had three kids if it wasn't for Izzy because I don't know about you guys, but God, it's hard, isn't it? It is. It's just when she was pitching for a third, I remember just being like, are you mental? Like, are you serious? I was like, every time, so immature, but every time there'd be an issue, like with the two kids we had of like, see, and you want another one? But I knew that she's so capable that, you know, we would manage mainly because she would manage. And also she so badly wanted one. I thought I can't be the one to like, to be the reason

we didn't have a third. You know, it's very challenging having children for lots of kind of reasons, as I'm sure you know, and and she just like just gets on with it. You know she works as well and the way I see it with Izzy she's just treading water like just keeping her head above water and like coping with it amazingly well. It is difficult I cannot tell you how lucky I am to have her as the mother to my children because she is kind, compassionate, caring, she's constantly she's listening teaching me. She's, you can tell she's listening,

but I'm being deadly serious. And sometimes in a weird way, it's hard to say this to a person's face. Like, do you know what I mean? Particularly if you're asleep and they're making you a coffee. No, it's true though, because they'll go, oh, shut up, what are you being weird? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What have you done? What have you done? What have you done? Why are you being like this? shut up, why are you being weird? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What have you done? What have you done? Why are you being like this? Stop it. What are you doing? Yeah. Are you recording this? Is this a joke for the podcast? And the other thing I'd say she's constantly challenging me to be a better person for the sake of my children because I think the thing I find most hard about being a dad is that you know you want your kids to like be well behaved and you want to kind of control them and you just can't and yeah

I think a lot of it is about controlling yourself and controlling your own emotions and she's kind of helped me to kind of understand that and to hopefully be a better dad for that reason. So, but if she could stop interrupting me mid wank in the mornings, no, I've got no complaints. She's amazing. I just wish she'd have a lot of complaints about me. But you know, it's really tough having kids. But I think the way I describe it is pre kids, you're like, it's all we talked about.

I'm like, I can't wait to have kids. It's going to be so amazing. And there is nothing perfect about having children, but there are perfect moments. That's the way I kind of see it. That's a very nice way of saying it. It's a lovely way to put it. Yeah, there are perfect moments, but it is really tough. And you've got to make sure that you and your wife or partner are pretty solid because it

comes with its challenges. Well, you survived, your marriage survived 12 weeks on Strictly. Yes, if you can survive Strictly. Izzy's written two books, Sunday Times Best Seller, Dare to Dream, My Struggle to Become a Mum, A Story of Heartache and Hope,

which is about struggles to conceive. Yeah, that's on the wall. That's framed on the wall. Yeah, that's on the wall, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's on the wall, is it? But the glitter ball's not. No, yeah, yeah,rictly Trophy is a bit more of a difficult shape, I suppose.

So when we were kind of naively went into having children, we were like, Oh, this is so exciting. And we thought, you know, she was pregnant the first month of trying anyway, turns out, it was a three year long kind of Blimey journey to have our first daughter Lola and those miscarriages and IVF and stuff. And she kind of just along the way documented that and ended up writing a book about it. Amazing. Yeah. And that then kind of got her into the whole sort of Instagram space when

back in 2014, it was all relatively new, but she was kind of gathering this following that we're interested in her journey to kind of having a daughter. And she's been quite open with her struggles with her anxiety, which has often been linked to me being away on tour and has gone right back through to her childhood. She had quite a traumatic childhood. Her eldest brother had an awful car accident, was left severely brain damaged. She's had a lot of things she's dealt with in life. She really got into mindfulness. And

so she found that that became really helpful in motherhood with all the kind of challenges and anxieties of being a mum. So she then wrote a book called mindfulness for mums. Oh, brilliant. She's been really busy as well as being a great mum. So yeah, no offence, probably a better book in the new for this. She was like, what, what can I come on? It says a lot about me and Rob as journalists. Journalists, fucking behave. We found that information out at the end of the interview rather than before it, which

would have been a lot of clever. The last minute, we just realized that your wife's written two books about parenting, which is absolutely says it all about us. It's a great guess now. Yeah, is it? If you think Frost Nixon at the end of the film, it is. Yeah, she'd love that. If you think Frost Nixon at the end of the film, he'd go, oh, wait a minute, I've just read that you're involved in

Watergate as well. I should have brought that up in the interview. She'll be very pleased that she's got a mention. But I don't know about you guys, but like, is the one thing about parenting is trying to basically stay as chill and calm as possible, right? Yeah. Yeah, 100%.

Otherwise I spend my, and don't get me wrong, I get it wrong sometimes, like a lot of the time, I would otherwise just be constantly like shouting and be like annoyed with my kids because yeah, it's intense. Oh, well, the podcast is called a Binge Binge and Izzy Judd, Edzzy Judd is on Instagram so you can buy her two books

about parenting and you're on tour. Yes, we are tour busted versus McFly. It's on sale. I think it sold pretty well. There's a few tickets left I think. And then we've got loads of shows this summer, loads of festivals and things so. Could you do a shout out for my friend who's a huge mega fan? Who's that? Olivia. How do you know Olivia? She- Give him some info, mate. Come on.

Yeah, give me some info. Come on. She used to work in TV but now she works at Off the Curb which is the agency that represents me and Rob and she, last time I was with her she was telling me all about how excited she was about McFly versus Busted. She was one of those on the day getting tickets people. Oh amazing. Olivia, thank you so much. You can visit my cameo. Thanks for your support, Olivia. That's amazing. So she works off the court. Are you guys in the same agency as Joel? Yes. Yeah.

I'm good mates with Joel. We go running a lot together. So yeah, you do that sort of Southwest running crew. Yeah. Run club. So my friend, a couple of my friends, all mums and Izzy were all like, oh my God, Harry, oh my God, I got these texts. You got mentioned on the podcast, on the parenting hour podcast. Like they're massive fans of yours. So that was like, you know when you do something like on TV and you get the text, Oh, I saw you on this. I literally got an influx of texts when I was mentioned on your podcast.

What did Joel mention you? No, you guys were talking about me and Joel running or something. I think. Yeah. Cause I've seen your videos because you go running around some sort of actual running track. Yeah, I know. It's so lame, isn't it? No, you were teaming up to try and beat someone's time, one of the Olympians.

Oh, yes. Yeah, Keely Hodgkinson's 800-meter time. You're never going to beat that. No, no, no, but between three of us. So me, Joel, and one other guy, we split the 800 meters into. So three parts and then three parts. Yeah. And just beat her. Just three men, a truck and toxic masculinity.

Managed to bring the female Olympian down. Yeah, that's a really good thing there, Harry. Have that, Keeley. Get it back in your box. Thanks so much, Ray. It's been brilliant. Thanks so much. It's absolute joy. Thanks for having me, guys. Yeah, I've really enjoyed it. Cheers.

I hope it doesn't ruin your marriage. Good luck with Amelia. Thank you.