Robert Kelly's You Know What Dude! - Breaking News with Ariel Helwani

Episode Date: March 31, 2014

Robert is joined by MMA journalist Ariel Helwani, Mike Lawrence, Luis J Gomez, Dave Smith and Chris Scopo. RiotCast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Top of it. What's up everybody? What's happening? There was a hard thing. Right? There was a hard fake because my arm was not long enough to turn the flip. I got this chair keep rolling too. If you notice, I roll during the show.

I go this way. I constantly have to. If you notice, I'm constantly doing this. There was like a mini workout. That's how I'm losing my weight. By the way, doing this podcast. We have a fucking guy crew in here today. And Scopo.

Well, you guys who know who that is, if you're a fan of the show, we have a great show. A lot of my favorite guests are on. And first time, one of my favorite guys in the business, as we call it, in both businesses. Dave Smith. Dave Smith, no aerial Hawaii is here.

I'm here. Yeah, the Howard Cocelle of MMA. A little late, I apologize. You're a little late, but that's okay. Is there a video camera in here? Yeah, your camera's right here, my friend. Where, where, where, right there? Oh wow.

They're all cutting-hit and hending. Wow, all right. Yeah, we have a three camera shoot. He's, we got these guys that guy Let's go right on it. Let's do it. Just a one on Ariel Boom boom there he is This is big. This is no it's not that big. I like it. I like it. It's a it's a very cozy atmosphere in here This is the right cast studios. We have three shows coming out of here my show

Glory hole and the hammer fisting hammer, Hammer Fisting, which Lewis Gomez wrote. I can sleep here. Yeah. But here's the thing is that I can, I know that Lewis is kind of star struck. No, I'm not star struck. I know Ariel does what I wanna do with my life, to a certain degree, not live in Brooklyn. But I'd like to live in Manhattan for the rest of my life.

So I don't wanna fuck it up and make Ariel not like me in the first 15 minutes of him being. But what you did with a vibe, wouldn't like it. What you've done, yeah, what you've done with everybody else, including me. I don't fucking like you. So you're a comedian, of course. I'm a comedy. You'd rather be an MMA reporter? No, no, no, no, no.

What I do, what I do, someone might be listening. The business will probably listen because shut up. One second, before you don't know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Are you always asked like what seems like a really innocent question and Dana white gets fear Yeah, we got a listen we have a lot to talk about because you look at I'm we're huge fans. You know, I'm a huge thank you I've been on my show. I've been on your I love your show Um, and I look I'm proud to know you from back in that when you were I was a fan when you were back in the day hustling Thank you. I still am. Yeah, you're still awesomeling, but you're up there a little bit, man. You're really doing well. Thank you. And you're, I mean, you were gone for a week

and I was like, this is not the same show. Honestly, God, it's not the same because, look it, I like corporate America, I get it. You have to do, I love Kenny, I love Chale, I love them all. They're all great. I think they transitioned from being fighters and the ones that still fight into commentators great. Rogan, Goldie, great.

But without you on a show, I know this some type of something might be at you, ask the question. And you can, and you do it in a very monotone way that doesn't make my asshole pucker up. Like I know something's coming, but it just comes out and it's asked and you just stand like what the fuck well Honestly, I don't I don't overthink it because my my approach has always been This is a privilege. I've always wanted to be here

There are thousands of other people who want to be there don't don't mess it up Just ask the question that everyone wants asked right just just just just go out there and don't be afraid because what's the worst I can happen someone hits you's the worst that can happen? Someone hits you. Like, what is really gonna happen if you? Yes, for us. And if it's one of those guys, that is the worst that could happen. Yeah, it's almost time.

It's almost hit you. There have been some times where I got a little hairy, but I would rather, honestly, I'd rather get hit for asking a good question than be mad at myself for not asking a question. We're not having the balls to ask. It'd be amazing if you got hit and then you were critiquing how they were hitting you as they were hitting you

You call out a mount. I've never been afraid of getting hit the guys are you've never been intimidated out of asking a question There's always been there's only been one time where I was someone intimidated. Can we stop? Can we guess? Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. I say Nick Dias. I would go rampage one. I say Nick Dias No, because rampage is rampage more contrived I tell that's like he's trying to do the big eyes thing. Nick Diaz is genuinely a psychopath. Nick, was it that I remember the one I'm thinking that I'm actually the question?

Can we let him answer the question? What are you thinking about? I think he was saying the thing around where I'm from, guys, I'm doing this. He was kind of laughing. No, that was the time. Because before the interview, he refused to talk to me. Said I'm not talking to him.

I'm not talking to him. And it was this whole kind of scene. And the PR people were like, no, this is one of the interviews. It's going to be okay. And so Caesar Gracie was also there and said for him to do it. And I could just tell it was sort of boiling, boiling, boiling. And then when I asked him one question, he got really pissed. It wasn't so much when the where I'm from people you get slapped.

It was later on when I asked him about the trash talk between him and Paul Daly. And I could just, he said like something like, you're the the trash talk between him and Paul Daly, and I could just, he just said like something like, you're the one who keeps talking about that. You're the one I could just say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So that was the only time where I thought something might happen, but I mean,

it sounds a little cliche, but these guys are martial artists. And they have a lot of respect, they're not barbarians. You know what James Tony came to the UFC? It opened my eyes to a whole different world, because that time We were fighting over the microphone and he was doing all these theatrics and in the boxing world You have to be your own promoter. It's really on you to sell the fight in the UFC world MMA world You rely on the promotion. I really got to see how different it was in the boxing world

Yeah, I get scared for you sometimes like I'm like oh god, especially my mom really gets scared yeah Because you do ask the questions we do want to know. A lot of guys don't do that. It's kind of some basic stuff. You know, just get them in, get them out. You piss off day and a two, you say, I don't know why you piss them off, but even in the press conference is after.

It's the most entertaining dynamic ever, dude, I love watching it. It looks so interesting because it's like these entertaining dynamic ever to do that love watching it thanks so interesting because there's just it's like these seemingly harmless questions that for some reason oh sorry that for some reason really seem to get under his skin i don't like get why i don't know i i mean you would know better than me i don't even know if it gets under the skin because honestly if it if it got under skin would i still be talking to him you know what i mean um yeah i think a lot of that is dana and i've watched it

happen a lot because I go to the pressers a lot. He does that a lot with you. I think it's almost like a more of a ball bus. You think I think he genuinely likes you? That's what it kind of comes off. It's almost like an Ali and a Howard Cosell thing. Like, I feel like you have that guy.

You're so different than the other guys, which he's going to smash me for call me. You fucking say Howard Cosell one more time. Dude, he Googled how to spell Howard Cosell before the show's done. But he did. I am, I didn't do that. He did that. Don't put me in dump us with Scopo, okay? Even though I don't want to get the name wrong.

Geez. One time, one interview I did with the vice, vice has a website called Fightland. And I said that I want to be the Howard Cosell of MMA. And some people didn't like that. I think that I am 120th where Harold Cosell was even when he started. And I don't think all be, when this is all said and done, 100th of what he, the impact that he had on his sport.

But if I can't try to be that, why not? Why not shoot for the beard? That's what sucks about fucking Twitter and every ass. So as soon as you say, I wanna be this, they trash you, I wanna be that. Why can't you dare you? How dare you say that name fuck yourself What are you supposed to shoot for for all your work? Yeah, and it's not even that high

He was a big nose guy with a wig. I mean I could have said I want to be the Mike Stracka of MMA But who what happened Mike? I love Mike. Where's fucking? When we first met on his show, right? Yeah, you want to be the Aaron Andrews of MMA? I have no beef in there. Me and me and you, we used to do Mike Strock and had the show on Fox. Yeah. He was a producer on another show, and he loved MMA so much,

so he just, he literally made his own show about MMA. He was almost before his time. And he was waiting for the Fox deal. Oh, yeah, because the Fox wasn't with you at that time. Oh my God. Could you imagine if he would be, he'd be right up there

with all you guys? And I love Mike Strachy. He's fucking great. It works for a fuse now. Does he? Yeah, he was a producer, but he loved them. I made so much.

He had this great show. I remember sitting next to Frankie Edgar and being like, who's this guy? He was doing underground fights. And I'm sitting next to this guy. And I remember he wouldn't laugh at anything I said. And I was busting his balls like Jesus Christ. This guy hasn't smiled yet. And I'm sitting next to the future champ for Christ's and we used

to do the show all the time that's when you just had your was it a podcast. I was very small at the time but yeah I just started with AOL when I when I was on that show but no he's doing okay I was just I love Mike yeah but he was he was uh you know we see him at the fucking bar with the shows. Yeah, I think he likes to drink. Oh, he does a little bit Yeah, plus he'd rip your head off too. He's really yes, he's into martial arts. He's big and jiu-jitsu He's a small guy, but okay, you know my trucker, right? Yeah, I did a glory hole with him Yeah, whoa what the fuck was that he was fine. He just wasn't fucking wasn't that cool on glory. Oh honestly What do you mean? You just wasn't that cool. It was kind of a dick. What did you really? What did you shit dude?

He came on glory. Holy was just kind of being you know, it was too cool for school Yeah, kind of too cool for school very kind of setting toward the idea of doing a podcast Just a lot of glory hole. Yeah, well that's who yeah, I mean you're on a show called glory. Oh Because Ariel's cool and I'm like happy to sit next to him and have a conversation with him I was pumped to be on a show with my guys. Can we hurry up? I've got a seven o'clock at donkey pun Thank you, but that's kind of bummed me out like when you meet somebody like Caesar Gracie that's like you mentioned him before it's like I had him on the show And I'm such a fan of his camp and his guys And it's like he was such a fucking asshole on the show really that was yeah

You just really just and it was because it was a podcast and I he didn't know why was you piss him off or was he we We asked him a question where we didn't I guess the question Nick was trained it was the tingles fucking question We've had that question. Yeah, Nick had trained with was it Andre Ward? Yeah, he asked him about training with the fight war It was like three years after now that he has to be like it was like a lesson is like no he has to be the last year he has in this last year that he was training with on rewore i mean that's like kind of old news to this been years

i don't know if there's a way to handle it to do it you know what by the way i we all we asked was like how how was it training with on rewore and it was like well maybe i should do your research i have a train like i do come all right, dude. Come on, man Like obviously we're not gonna know every fact. Well, you should if you're gonna be a friggin' in membrane, right? You do Well, if you want to be an M.A. reporter To answer the question. I you never got the answer the question But I Ariel think I never got to see someone's dream crush

never got to see someone's dream crush five that was amazing oh shit no dude i thought that was the most beautiful thing i'm a comic last time he saw that his tears in his eyes when his father died oh just being real now

just naming real things his father is dead we know but we joke about it all the time really? listen we are in a very fun it was like 25 days ago Except facts your dad's dead. You'll never be an MMA report You were saying if you see a Puerto Rican ghost smiling near the window

That's send your Gomez yeah holding cocaine and a bloody knife My world we're like all buttoned up not as buttoned up as as you know Maybe some other sports, but like we don't joke about people's dad So this is all very new. I like the ghost died and the knife became a ghost to win it Like it's a part of his body It's funny though. You're right. Look. This is the comic world you're in right now Yeah, so it is funny We were talking I literally gave everybody a pectop

Pectop shot up. You know, you know, I got to be a movie Ergur, Peptop on the show Ariel, you're in the corporate world now. This is this is the big time. This is Fox. You got to be careful of what you say what you tweet What you fake or everything out there. Not only because, look, you have a family or respectable guy, but you're also, you know, this is a,

you're in the public eye in a corporate way right now. Does that change your life? No, it has, and I actually think that I'm not really that, I think actually what people might like about me is that I don't come across as corporate, I sound the exact same way, perhaps I talk a little slower now, but I haven't put on this fake voice.

I think I'm pretty much the same guy. I remember one time you told me that you liked when I wore the sneakers. The sneakers, but also the, I think you called it the Pulp Fiction Suit, like black and white. And it's pretty much the same thing. I mean, I really haven't changed all that much.

So I think that people like to see the fact that I started as really just a fan. Yeah. Not that long ago, six years ago. Yeah. And, you know, here I am now and I'm pretty much the same. I'm wearing the same stuff. So I don't really consider myself corporate. How did you get from used to be into wrestling, right?

Well, I was always into combat sports, any kind of sport. No, yeah, you're under sports, tall and baseball. I love it. Except I will say that I've soured on team sports just because all my sports teams suck. And it's gark. Well, Nick's. Wow. That's such a rough one.

Last episode of Crossing, dude. I'm sorry about that because I'm a Boston fan. So the last 12 years have been amazing. The Celtics tonight. But yes, I think the Boston sports fan has been the most spoiled sports fan in the last decade. The last decade that you've had. They spent my entire childhood bitching about how they never get there.

Yeah, we got a lot. And the last decade has just been. Yeah, Bru my entire childhood bitching about how they never get there. Yeah, we got a lot. Last decade has just been. Yeah, Bruin, Southdakes, Patriots, Red Sox. This is fucking insane. Red Sox, three times. I think that I am the most tortured sports fan in America. Nix, or a laughing stock.

I'm a little bit more. The Buffalo Bills, where the only team, a lot of people don't know this, though, in New York. Well, that's true. The only team to not make the playoffs in the twenty-first century the only NFL i'll still go on nixon jets i think i have you beets of no way cuz you guys at least made it to the conference championship a couple times you guys made it's you how many super bowl

that was in nineteen ninety that's worse they did for the row was in one one of the fucked up a stat that is the first the university that curse of the bambino document and hosted by future bat Ben Affleck? And he's he's talking about Are they stop one second? Don't spill water on the gas Batman made me furious to it. I throw my water on the floor. Okay, good

This is gonna always just like trying to beat up arrow going there can be only one status highland. No, so, and they're talking about like, oh, the curse of the Bambino and for years. And then like, oh, we were the last team to racially integrate. Like, wasn't that the real curse? Wasn't that? Oh, maybe.

That was a long way to go for that, you fucking ass. Can't wait, that's the bomb now? No, that's the bomb bandana. You know what, no one's throwing it. Nobody left it, I think. You might take that shit. I think that's what that on my keys. I just been killing it, I bomb bandana. You know what's wrong? Nobody left it. Fuck you, right? Take that shit. I just been killing it.

I got the bill. You own it. I'm just renting it. I'm just sucking it back to you. I don't know what's going on here right now. I do. This is what happens when you get comics in the room. They yap over each other.

Someone had a good one. That's all. You'll get used to it. And then the Montreal Expos who don't exist. They don't exist. Those are my sports great logo that great logo All right, that is pretty rough. Those are my teams you the nationals now Like you're the national now. I would rather I don't even I don't even tell you what I'd rather do than root for the national

All right, no way so you met fans the worst now, but I do have this dilemma now with my son You know, what am I gonna you know? I can't make red socks come on give him a life Let red socks out. I get my life be Yankee fan. Yeah, that's the life What when's the last time the Yankees did shit 2009 that 2009 what they do they won the world That's bullshit that was fixed because they got the new stadium. Everybody knows that was fucking fixed baseball gave it to them I've heard I never heard that theory absolutely The first 26 penance they earned but but the 27th one, that was the fixed one. Oh fuck all he is.

Can you even be a sports fan after winning so many times? Like, where's the drive to actually sit there and emotionally invest yourself? I think you're absolutely. I think you're right. I kind of grew up as a Yankee fan. I was really into like 96 when I won. I just stopped caring after. After you win like four or five, it's just like, there's nothing so special about champion beer about I can't be after winning three now

And then with the three with the Well, I think it's a different thing with mma because I don't watch other sports But it's kind of funny that you bring it back to that Because you are good not because would you like George Sam Pierre who's just so better than us now a part of it You know, I'm a huge GSP fan. I still kind of go like I want to see what Johnny Hendrix is gonna be able to do A part of me kind of wants to mix it up I want to see him lose but even though I'm a fan I would still accept that loss just because I'm a fan of the sport as well I'm telling you MMA. Sorry. Go ahead. That's why I love MMA those because you this is what it sucked with teams when when when the Patriots lost the bills

Yes, the first time I Fucking lost my mind. I was so hurt. I was so and I was like, I don't get this. This is terrible. I shouldn't be this way. I shouldn't be all fucking angry and pissed off. This is not how the ramps. No, the Patriots and the bill, not the bills, not the bills, the giants, the giants when they lost the first. Yeah, on the fucking head and the miracle. It made me sick to my stomach. I was like, what am I doing? That's when I realized, like MMA,

at least when you watch a show, I can root for both guys. It's not a state thing, you know what I mean? It's also no teams, no one's leaving, no one's getting traded. Yes, you know what I mean? It's just mono-emano and I love, there's nothing like fight night.

Here's the great thing about the UFC and MMA in general. You know, this year there can be 49 events, which is a lot. So it's the most they've ever had. But every single week presents a whole new different set of stakes, different stories, different titles up for grabs. I mean, last week, those Alexander Gustafson,

he was trying to cement his places and then one contender again. This week, it's a whole new set of guys. What a card this week. It's amazing, but it's not like game 65 of the NHL season between the Hurricanes and the Rangers and going through the motions. Being a reporter, it's so refreshing week to week.

There could be no off season and that gets a little tiring. It's still so exciting from week to week because last week is done, whole new set of circumstances. This week's done, next week, and I just love that about the sport. Every week feels like a playoff. That is so cool. And it's also such a young sport that it's still, I mean, you were saying with the GSP thing, it's just dip football and basketball. These sports have kind of been hammered out. They kind of are what they are.

MMA is like in three years, there's a level that's way higher than the level this year. So, so seeing like GSP, you're almost like how much longer can he put, eventually he's going to get put out by some of the... But it is kind of sad too though, because the sport is growing so fast, and people are becoming so much better that the guys that I do love are kind of good now quicker. You know what I mean? Where before a guys would be around for a long,

because that was it, there was only a certain amount of guys, and these are the guys that fought, and you grew to love them. Now they're kind of getting rushed, they're going out a lot quicker. You know what I mean? So like, new guys are popping up. I don't know who the next guy's gonna be,

which is great, but the DS brothers, I mean, are they gonna fight again? What's going on? I mean, I love those guys. There's an interesting state of transition right now. A lot of the, you know, the force, the Stephens, Mad Hughes, they're all retiring. But I think there's a new crop of guys.

This year is interesting for the UFC, at least the beginning part of the year because there's a lot of injuries. I mean, look at, Canva Laska is out until at least October and November. That's the heavyweight champion. John Jones took a bit of an extended leave he's coming back end of April.

Anderson Silva, gone, right? George St. Pierre, gone. Anthony Pettis, gone until December fighting Gilbert Melendez. He's never healthy, man. Jose Aldo is often very... Well, that's the thing about UFC in the past few years is that they've become the headliner themselves.

So even when a lot of their stars... That was all part of the plan, right? Yeah. ...by the pay-per-view for UFC. But here's the thing. I thought in the past that those three letters would guarantee you at least like 250,000 pay-per-view buys, the times are changing because with so many shows.

Before it used to be, it's UFC night, I'm buying it, I'm watching it no matter what. Now fans are picking and choosing, much like WWE, and they suffered a lot in pay-per-view. But they evolved with the network. Well, that remains to be seen. I mean, they really haven't put out their first pay-per-view. So once you start picking and choosing, a slippery slope might develop and fans might start skipping more than they want. And I was saying this on my show recently with Dave and me and Dave got into like kind of a big debate because I think I used the term

oversaturation. I think that's not the right term. What? I'm sorry, just you saying that. What was that? I'm sorry, dude. It was the vocabulary word for the week. Now, it was just you, that was really good. That shot't think I was going to get through, but you hit the landing and it fucking made me laugh. I'm sorry. Go ahead, I'm sorry. I'm going to fucking punch you in your face. I'm going to punch you in your face.

I'm going to punch you in your face. I swear to God. Now that's you. That's the guy I was. But the point I was making, I think you're right about that, because I'm a hardcore fan. And what I did was I skipped the UFC China card. I just didn't get up at 8 in the morning.

And I didn't get the time that day to go watch the cards. And the point that I had made get the time that day to go watch the cards. And the point that I had made was two or three years ago, those guys wouldn't have even made the cut in the UFC for the lowest part. Most of the guys that were on the main card, and now I think that they're kind of selling it to the casual fan, and as a hardcore fan,

I kind of feel like I'm being a little bit left out. Like each event isn't for me anymore. So you're the hardest of the hardcore. I'm a hardcore. Like you signed up the fight pass. Sign up for fight pass. You'll watch the England show. I'll watch everything.

Except now, but now it just becomes a thing where I don't really have to watch everything. Two years ago, those guys would have been fighting and strike force or bella to it. This was our argument. This isn't the truth. Two years ago, those guys, you're not the truth. They would have been champions two years ago.

These guys are really good. The level just keeps going up and up. I don't even know if I agree with that though, because there are people that are amazing like Ben Ascreen who's the champion of Bellator and the UFC doesn't have that. There's like three guys. There's like three guys.

I'm just saying that the UFC, they've almost created their own minor league with the Facebook comments of Fox. I agree with that fights. So now it becomes a thing where, I can kind of, I need, now I can almost pick and choose which fights I wanna watch, even though it's most of the time, all of them.

But, you know, I do think that there's something to that where the hardcore fans are kind of not really being considered. And also back in the day, being called a UFC fighter meant a whole lot more than it does today, only because there were less events, less fights, less fighters. That's quite a little shake on it. is that my last show area i did not sorry i'm sorry um... but uh... you know it so these days you're right they have created their own little minor league and uh... that's their way of dominating the landscape and it's their way of trying to you

know really dominate um... internationally as well so it remains to be seen if this is gonna work out but it's certainly in two thousand six when you're ufc fight when they were like 12 events, it's a lot different than being called the UFC fighter when they're 49 events. Yeah, well that's true, but at the same time, like no one else is doing it successfully, so the UFC has to do the minor league,

because no one else is being successful as the minor league. I'm not hating on them for doing those shots, but I also can't say a change. I can't say a change. Over-saturated, when there's so much more football, basketball, things like basketball, there's like March madness, there's all these NBA Here's the difference. There's an offseason and distance always makes the heart grow founder football fans

That's true. Come July August are going insane. I mean, they're going insane because the free agents right now They can watch the dread they can watch the the combine now right they have a combine a week of just Because they want more more but the games but the games only return in the summer So that distance really makes you wanting more the UFC is essentially 52 years that what they're doing with pedis well do you think they're just gonna burn out the fan base it's it's I think this is I mean it just started the expanded schedule just started this year so it really remains to be seen I mean they went from 33 shows last year to 49 or so this year that's a huge jump.

Now, is this making additional money or is this just their new revenue of how to make money in the past? What happened was they had this deal with Fox where they had 33 or so shows that Fox was going to air on their different networks and also on Pay Per View. Then they launched this thing called Fight Pass, but Fight Pass, which a lot of fans don't understand,

in my opinion, it's just gravy. Fight Pass is their way of going all around the world and catering to local markets. So now they've hired an English, show me a British broadcast crew. Very weird, that was the first time, right? Yeah, first time. You didn't like them.

I liked them. You did. I liked it. It gave it a bit of local flair, it was a little sophisticated. I was rooting for Dan Hardy. You didn't like it. I just, I didn't think.

I thought he was very, first time. It's tough. It was a little nervous, but the thing is like that show aired in prime time in England. It aired in the afternoon here. So they're trying to gain more fans overseas. And they actually as of like October, September, fight past didn't even exist, but they thought, all right, let's just make this available to the fans. These shows are going to be exclusively for the international fans will make it available to the fans. These shows are gonna be exclusively for the international fans. We'll make it available to the fans here in the US. And it's really just gravy, that's all it is.

So I almost believe that they don't really care if you don't sign up or not. As long as you watch those Fox shows and buy the pay-per-views here, those 33 events are the ones that are most worried about as far as domestically. Well, I remember when I used to go to these shows, it was like USC 100 was so massive.

It was such a stacked card. And I was like, holy shit, what an event, what a super bowl. And like this year, I didn't see, I mean, I mean, you think now all the fights are, well Saturday is like that big of a card right now. Is that the Saturday's the biggest card? I wouldn't quite call it 100, but it's good. It's not a 100, it's definitely not a 100.

Could you do a 100 now? You could. Who with who? Who's not a 100 It's definitely not a 100 no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Nothing like that, going to that, I remember going, I can't believe that even the fucking undercards. UFC 168 was pretty good. Wide men, silver two, wrong to Misha. That was good, but there's nothing like Brock Lesnar. Nothing like Brock Lesnar, right? No. What was that? That fight. Oh, the Brock fight?

No, the Anderson. Yeah, nothing like that card had Brock and GSP. Arguably the two biggest pay-per-view draws. It also had Hendo and Bisping. Crazy, what a fucking night what I'm I'm ever gonna knock on John Jones John Jones is on the undercard he was on the I was I just say something Jacob Brian I'm in I'm in the back with Norton and John Jones walking a young happy young kid John Jones What's up? Hey nice there? I'm glad to be here John Jones sure really different than the John Jones

Yeah, not not to say these an asshole now, but you know back then he was hey, what's up? And I told I go I told him I go Norton that's gonna be the champ some really because he's so much bigger than Everybody else he was fighting and he was just a Nyle after after one bond or I was convinced this guy's the chair I just the way he tossed him around like a rag So what do you think of him because he's in an interesting spa right now a lot of people think he's ducking gust of sin He just rubbed some people the wrong way. And he always has for some reason. And it's famed.

Well, I think it's because some people don't believe that he's genuine. You know, like that's it. People love Nick Diaz, because they think that's Nick Diaz. And he's a dick. They like the genuineness. They love him.

He's so genuine. We've never, you couldn't be fake man. But we've never experienced that in the sport. Fighters have always been who they are. Right. You know what I mean? Like just fucking have always been who they are right you know what I mean like just fucking like just who they are we've never experienced the baseball the football corporate yeah and you feel like that's John Jones he got yeah his answers were very you know what happened was he was so clean cut and you remember he took down that robber when he fought the new jersey it was all perfect

and he even said he was sponsored by the UFC first fighter to be sponsored. He even said the UFC wants to sponsor me because I'll never get a DUI or anything like that. A month later, yeah. A month later, he got it and then all the haters. That was my moment, dude. And it wasn't being a hater.

Here's the thing, dude, if you would just own it, if you would just say, hey, dude, I'm a 24 year old millionaire, I'm fucking banging these hot chicks there in the back of my car. I just wrapped my fucking belt and you're on the tree. I got hammered, I fucked up. If he would have just said that, would you tell me all the time?

But Bobby Kelly says to me, dude, just say you fucked up. Just say you fucked up and I don't have a problem. Is that your impression? I think my impression. John Jones couldn't just say I fucked up. He had a, he talked about the growth that he learned from it and being a Christian and blah, blah, blah.

But wait a minute, I think there's a lot of stuff to that happen. We sure Rashad, you know, that that went down where they were going back and forth and he was very snooty. It wasn't like, you know, like rap page in Rashad was like, fuck you. No, fuck you. That's kind of real with him. He was like, oh, you know, he was being snobby. He's got like a cognate thing about him that he almost can't get through an interview with it saying one thing that's just kind of so gnarcy but I'm a very like I'm a big fan of John Jones I I like John Jones is the champion I think he was very pivotal in changing the sport sure and and and and and bring it into Mainstream a guy like daddy young good-looking champ who can speak and go in front of him.

He's the LeBron James of MMA right now. At that level, I don't fucking like because of a day, I'm at fucking when Son and Fodd, um, Yeah, what happened? Oh, that's Son of a bitch. Son of Fodd Silva? Son of Fodd, Silver, me and Jimmy in the front row. Yeah, yeah.

He's over there. Hot chicks, you know, three hot chicks, don't know a thing about the sport, by the way. Somebody is, you know, whatever, with them don't know a thing about the sport, by the way. Somebody is, you know, whatever with them. They're there for other reasons. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man.

They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man.

They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. They're there for other reasons, man. Those were super fans instead why can't those be fans? I was just annoying that they had front row okay? They were in front of us. I they were talking on their phones God gave them front row when he gave them those bodies You know here's the deal though in the fight you wanted to guy in front you to turn around and give you a high five Sure sure sure sure you don't want her to go with the bathroom. Oh, he just called So anyways, he comes over to they go can we get a picture and they can you take it?

I go absolutely I'll take it and I take a picture of LeBron with these three girls And I go hey you take photos of fat bald fans and he just went looked me up and down and walked away You're kidding swear to God Wow, I was like dude. I self-deprecated. Yeah, that's an In that Norton's thing like doesn't he love getting pictures with people that's no one's that's why you know when I go I'm I'm literally he knows who everybody is now but we first started going I'd be like that's Machita what it what if the bronze that the champ this you need that picture get that picture whatever the brown left because you self-deprecated I can't take

pictures with a guy who doesn't optimize himself you know you know have some self-confidence the funniest part the funniest photo when I forget there was the fan expo when they had in the, they had a green room set up in the expo. And me and Norton go on the back and every, we walk in and every fighter's there. Like they're funneling in and out. Every single fighter you've ever wanted to meet

is funneling in and out of this room because they're out in the floor and then they go back for refreshments back here. We get passes, we're back there. Norton's slipping out. There's another guy in there. He's got a bag of gloves. Bobby's slipping out.

He's having refreshments. Yeah. So he's got this bag of gloves. Norton snaps. I need gloves. I need gloves. So, read. Read Harris.

Or what's the other guy that was doing it? That was doing the publicity. burn Jim burn. I love yeah He goes and gets norton a bag of gloves. Norton goes and buys a bag of gloves So I'm we're just sitting there for hours Getting these fighters to sign these gloves. How many of the fighters know you guys? None none not one not one not a Joe Lose on type. I feel like someone like that was on is I love Lose on it We we play called duty together. You do yeah, he's fucking but I I kind of introduced myself on Twitter and blah blah blah But I you know big fan and we we as I worked you text him and say want to play like is it just one on well?

Well, I I'm a big fan. No, we play together and he's fucking one of the best players I've ever seen him. I played one game with Justin knife. Yeah, because it's like nothing but play that You got a 30 kill streak a 30 on one is is great like I and I'm just watching him play. Are you talking to each other? Yeah, we can talk to each other. Yeah, just shitty boss and accent back and forth But yeah, he but here's the thing I invited to one of my shows and I left tickets and I don't know if he ever went Well, maybe he didn't like it because I never heard hey, dude great job and I don't want to hear that I don't want to ask did you go did you get the tickets? Can't you ask will call no?

No, I don't I could have that then but I just kind of waited for the hey dude great Yeah, you know, dude you were awesome and I never I him once. Is this so weird when you meet those guys? Like, you feel like there's so much bigger in your mind. Sure. And you're like, this little guy would beat the shit out. There's almost something weird about seeing like a small guy who you just know like. And they're so down to earth, right?

Yeah, most of the, I mean, he's low as almost, I mean, I just met him very briefly. They're all fucking great. That was the best part about it. And that was one of the sales pitches that Dana used a lot. These guys are great guys. They're all down to earth.

Yeah, when you meet them and when you meet them in the back, I couldn't fucking believe how nice we were, but we were in this thing and he was, we weren't supposed to be there. You know what I mean? They're nice, most of them. They're really nice. But there was a couple of them back there who will like get this fucking guy with me. I have a photo of Van the Lay. Really? Who was eating? And Norton was like, you know, Norton, can I

get you ask him? Ask him. And I'm like, dude, he's fucking eating. It's Van the, he's the axmart. I'm not fucking asking the axmart or what. And he's like, just fucking, okay, okay. And then he goes up, I go, you ask him. I to want to. And he's like, just fucking, oh, okay, okay. And then he goes up, I go, you ask him. I was afraid to. And then he walks up and goes, excuse me, he goes, I'm eating. And there's this photo of him looking at,

oh, come on, do you want to see him eating? I took the photo, come on. I took the photo, I'm so happy I had the frame of mind to snap that. He's just like, like, fuck him. And then he took the, and then Norton's he doesn't give up. He still took the weighted right there. He's sat behind Vandalais over like this and he could feel him waiting. It was the most uncomfortable I've ever been in my life.

Was this UFC 100 or the not that one. It was the one after. Later. Yeah. One more thing just about John Jones that I wanted to say was because I don't want it to end, you know, on that point. Yeah. He's gone from like pretty boy Floyd, you remember Floyd Mayweather when he was just like, Oh, I'm so pretty to money Mayweather Floyd. He's in the process of going to where he's embracing the haters. And this is very interesting to watch because finally he's coming to terms with the fact that some people don't like him. Change his Twitter logo now to Daffy Duck because people are saying he's ducking Alexander Gustafson He's embracing the hate and this is a lot more interesting than the guy who's trying to be the church boy Rousey, Rousey's going that too Rousey does that very well

But you said the score you know like there hasn't been a Brock Lesnar and I mean That was a part of his appeal, you know that oh, yeah, he would cut promos. He would you anger? Yeah, well you can't have everybody be rich franklin or george sam pia you need people in the sport like nifty as michael bisping uh... trail they're they self-tick it's contrived or if it's there genuinely this crazy and a medic personality no matter what you need people to hate in the sport if you don't have that dynamic you're not good nobody's gonna be interested in the spring the thing that john

jones is that i think make people not dig is that even all those But all those guys had in common especially like the Chuck Ladell's the random tours They really did have this ethic of like I'll fight anyone anywhere anytime. They bat They always talk and different time out. Let me Thing the thing much more than that DUI. I think what fucked over John Jones was the chair Sun and yeah, but there's a different time. Listen David. Hey, old dude shut up Fuck keep yapping. Just never shut up like the first hammer fist thing.

It's a different time now. There was less fighters. Now there's a lot more, these guys get paid less. I mean, this guy is fighting for a fight bonus. And he's fighting for his title, a win bonus. These guys, if they don't win, if they just go in there and brawl it out and fucking, he gets clipped a lot of money's lost.

And they don't get to fight right away again. I mean, back when Chuck was fighting, how many guys were fighting back then? How many fights did they do a year? Six. And they made a lot, I mean, look, I think a lot of guys today would have taken that. And I get the justification for,

I look, I get the justification. It doesn't mean that I'm a fan of the guy who says well It's short notice. I wasn't preparing for this guy is a different fighter. Let me tell you something The only way I would even accept it at all is if a heavyweight came down and challenged him You got a guy who's a blown up middleweight who's really hasn't had any success at 205 at all who's coming off of a fucking loss A month ago Exactly you should literally go easy fucking payday and he didn't and that's what bug me and we saw what happened when they fall I will but you know the thing that people don't mention is that Jones actually made a smart business decision because then he got to be on the ultimate fighter with

him and then they got to do the whole thing so he actually you know at the time so that's that Jones or is that Dana is that Dana it all worked out it all worked out and here's the thing that sometimes that I get bothered by with the sport okay this guy gets injured a week before fight throwing this guy they're Dana it all worked out it all worked out and here's the thing that sometimes that I get bothered by with the sport Okay, this guy gets injured a week before fight throw in this guy. They're not rock him sock him robots They really aren't you know like this is this should be treated as a real support This should be treated if he doesn't feel like he has enough time if eight days is enough time for him to prepare for a title fight He has the right to say you know what and and and look the card should have been better right the card the combative end of that car was was a j-haaron against j-kelin burger ridiculous

the car should have been better that was a fuck up on the ufc and they do that with john john john's like the only guy they do it with where they don't stack a card around him there was going to be a john's fight people are going to buy it and they don't they did it recently his last fight it wasn't a super stacked card either well ufc 165 against gussips and no... no one thought everyone thought he was gonna smoke him and there was no intriguing that fight now i think it's one of the most intriguing fights that that again when he says he doesn't want to fight gussips and it just plays back in the narrative where it's like

well no dude we've seen you tear through everyone then you had a five round war we want to see that again i mean that's what yeah we'll go since when this weekend that's it's a completely justified Real magic what people want to hear is is John Jones go. I'll yeah, I'll fight anyone any that's what I want to hear Well, we became fans all of us everyone in this room became a fan of this sport For in the early days where no you didn't know your opponent You didn't know who's gonna be in a round two round three of the tournament that night and that is the bones and then the foundation of this sport So those are the things that drew us to it originally

and when Jones turns down to fight and ate these notice against the middleweight, it's kind of like, well, I mean, it was good. I don't disagree with that, though. I mean, what if you go in and you was preparing to fight this guy and then all of a sudden, you're fighting this guy, I mean, mentally, that must fucking be weird.

And let's not ignore this. You know, a lot of of the biggest star in the sport in my opinion is Dana White. Whether you like it or you love it. The biggest star in the sport. Absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely. And I think that's a conscious decision too.

Absolutely. He's not going anywhere. Right. So Vince McMahon, I think, I know. 100% and he set the tone. He set the narrative. He said Greg Jackson killed UFC 151. He was not very complimentary of John Jones fans pick up on that

If Dana says that fans pick up a lot of fans are obviously some that don't do that So and it's interesting to note their their relationship now like you hear Dana talking about Henan Barrow if he wins he's gonna be the pound for pound king Chris Wyman Ronda Rousey's the biggest star in the history of our sport. You don't hear that so much about John Jones Nope, not anymore out of him not anymore. You did. You did. You did. He was coming up. When he was coming up, he was, oh my God, it was his, it was his boy. And then something did happen after that fight. But I think something happened behind the scenes, too. I think Dana knows that, Dana's a brilliant promoter. I think a part of him,

a part of that relationship spoiling is contrived as well. I think that, you know, he knows that John Jones, not everyone's going to like him. People, he sees the way he kind of people react to the DUI thing, the cell son and fight. So he says, let me sell this guy as a villain because more people are going to turn into watch this guy lose. Do you think the sport would be as big as it is today if Dana kept his hair? No, I don't think so. That is, it's amazing to look back at that earlier. Oh my, you look fucking lords. I would not watch. If he was to look back at that earlier. Oh my fucking lords.

I would not watch. If he was the fuck, if that guy was the head, I would literally be tuning into fucking Bellator. It's already hard enough to pull off being a guy named Dana, but that air would be good. Have you seen his first appearance on the Earth? He's so nervous. He says we're revved and ready to go.

Oh, red. Remember that? Someone needs to get him a t-shirt that says that. someone needs to get him a t-shirt that says that. Right. Someone needs to get Matisse's a revved and ready to go. It was so it was like it was it was like watching Goldberg the wrestler to interviews after the fight on showtime. So, looking up at the looking up like this fucking questions in the air.

Do you remember when he interviewed Phil Barone after one of the fights and Phil pulled his pants down to show him that his groin was all, you remember that? No, what happened? Phil Barone against a Frank Shamrock and then he went backstage to interview him and he asked him about getting kicked somewhere here and Phil like just literally pulled his pants down.

Right, you remember that? That's why he's fighting in Singapore right now. Yeah, I remember that shit. And Phil, you know Phil is, you know, packing because you know I would never do that. Yeah, big ol' fat club. And it take me 10 minutes hang on my, I don't think it's time for you to have me 10 minutes.

Give me a couple of seconds, I'm gonna show you this. Just, you have any photos? Ariel, can I, let me ask you a question, because I've asked a bunch of MMA people this, and nobody's ever been able to really give me a response, and I can't even think of a reason why, but it seems like in, in fact. Why can't I break into the business?

Why? We're still having a go on the answer to that question. We'll save it for the end. We'll save for the end. Yeah. How would I want to do with all this shit? Why is it that mixed martial arts fans are so accepting a female mixed martial arts, but no other sports fan

is accepting of the female versions of their sports, WMBA, whatever it is, but the MMA fans just don't really give a fuck. I love it. I haven't answered for that. Go ahead. What is that, Michael? Because you don't have to start a whole league,

you just add it to what's already there. If you're good, they're not gonna integrate. It's not women against men. They're not gonna put women in the NFL against men. And then men who are the main audience of football aren't gonna wanna watch a whole football league dedicated. First they put four women on the field, I would start watching football.

But you don't wanna see the WNBA of the MMA. You know what I mean? That doesn't do. I will watch the BNBA because it's not as good as the NBA. I mean, closely came and dunked, but women hitting each other is still. No, they don't hit each other as good. Hang on a second. But it's still they're going to hang on.

Hang on. Contact. Hang on one second. There's nothing. And I said this before MMA back in boxing, women go out there and fight because they know they have to. They know they have to, they have to put it all in the line because when the fuck this might be the last time, they're fighting for their lives. Every fight means something to these people. Women, you never see a boring woman fight you never do then you also think like it's a reaction to the

over saturation if you're watching what do you say like 49 that's true to white cards of just a deal with the you're dealing with the best of the best women out there yeah you're absolutely right with the other when it's a little something different yeah a little something different you both your points are are spot on I also think women's boxing never really, you know, has Lewis said anything that's been spot on? Yes, no, it's a very good question. I just give him a little bit of credit. He does. He does what? Yeah, I don't think fans really like to see women in the baggy shorts and you know all that's and just punching each other with gloves. You're wrong, but there is something there. It is not a stretch and it is not uncomfortable to watch them fight because of the gravity. I think MMA is a beautiful sport

as crazy as that might sound. And it doesn't look, it just looked uncomfortable to watch women punch each other, but with the big gloves, it didn't look right. And for some reason, MMA, it just, it doesn't seem like such a stretch from the men. But I mean, it doesn't feel uncomfortable to fight. And I think Ali too, having his daughter,

when you put that nepotism in and that, you know, if Ali's son fought and it wasn't as good, but that Ronda Rousey is their own entity and does her have that stigma. I wanna talk about Ronda Rousey for a second. Well, one more point about this. And also, I also feel like, when you watch these women,

like when you watch Ronda, she's an Olympic medalist, you know? You don't feel like you're watching an inferior, as you know, you don't feel like you're watching an inferior, as you mentioned, you don't feel like you're watching an inferior product, the very important thing. You love, often the best fight on the card is the women's fight. And I think they've done a good job,

you know, from Gina Carano, and yes, let's not, you know, be crazy. I know you guys wouldn't be, you know, look, sell, and the big star is like, I mean, even cyborg who has a look, sells. I mean, there's a reason why she looks like my uncle There's a reason Gina was in a sodaburg movie. Yeah, look at Sarah McMahon deserved the shot before Gina did for no question. I'm sorry before me, right?

But I think I mean first of all Jean Gina, Carano. I hope she comes back because she's how do you feel about that? Have you heard about these rumors? You don't like it? It's started Have you heard about these rumors? You don't like it? They started doing that. Because UFC, Dana White came out and he said, we got Gina Carano under a four fight contract. If she wants a fight, we'll give it to her. But then you're gonna tell fucking cyborg that she's gotta go take fights at 135 elsewhere. After she fucking retired her,

you have a way. Stop, stop, stop, stop. One second. Cyborg does look half-man half-machine. Cyborg actually, you steroids. She was illegal, hang on. It does it does matter. That's that standard. Gina Carano. Gina Carano was the champ. She went out. She went movies. She did it the right way. Cyborg broke the rules. Cyborg is a Jewish Cyborg. But I fight

for on the Cyborg broke the rules. Got suspended and got booted out of the u.f.s all could be out of the uh... striped for us so yeah this is different it's a big part of it don't forget who her manager was that's what it's all about that's what some of its about some of it but not it's like the band-askin thing right uh... band-askin deserves to be in the u.f.c. but there's a little ego involved because band-askin rubbed the UFC, the wrong way, or Dana White, the wrong way, and

then he rubbed actually Belator the wrong way, saying that he wanted to go to, that whole thing was all about ego. Belator didn't resign him because he said he wanted to go to the UFC. The UFC didn't resign him because he was saying things. And what they also didn't want a Belator guy who kind of has an ugly style, who's looked better. Sure. The style's kind of ugly.

They didn't want a Belator champion come in and dominating their entire 170 pound division. It would look really bad. Well, when Revanne said, we'll give him to you, you know, we'll offer him up to you. No. That kind of pissed them. They were going to play into that game. And then when Dana said, go sign with World Series

of Fighting, Ben Askerin said, no, and that's why he's in 1FC. So there's a lot of ego involved at times. But I would be down with the Gina Crown of Fight. I think it would be fun to be kind of like a passing of the torch, but I do understand why some people say, look, she hasn't fought in five years. I would like to see it too, because when they get on

the scale, Ronda Rousey stole Gina Crown, I was a little pose. She did, she fucking stole it. And I want to see Gina come out, do it first. And then see Ronda come out with her little arm behind her back, which is one of the sexiest times. I don't think it's bad for female MMA. That's how much I know nuances about, I'm not as, I don't know as much as you three,

but I know nuance. That was the, I don't even know what you're talking about. That's, that's the, Bob's thing or two about penational style. It's true, it's true. I just think it gets to a point where you start to kind of hurt women's MMA. If you start to make it kind of transparently hotness is more important than fighting ability, which to me giving Gina Krona title shot would be like

saying that definitively. But she was more important than you have. She got beat by somebody on steroids. She didn't get popped after that fight. She didn't get popped after that fight. What? She got to give her the benefit of the doubt. She didn't get popped after that fight. It wasn't. It was a few fights later. But you understand she was on it then. Probably. Guys, you can't just assume that. Dude, she looked like she had nuts in her shorts. Let me make this point about the steroids. Yeah. If they set across the board, if you get caught using steroids, you get a caught you abusing TRT. Yeah. You get caught. You're fucking out. Then I say, fine, you're're right dude, that'd be good. That'd be great.

And I completely agree with that. But they don't do that dude. They resign people after their suspensions all the time. They're not, they don't have a hard stance against steroids. So the whole bullshit about cyber be pop for steroids. That's bullshit. Well, look at the end of the day, this would never, if these were guys fighting, believe me,

the guy being hot would never come into consideration so there's definitely some what of a double step that was my and I think I think cyber cyborg in her own way is kind of hot if you're into those things and the other thing is she's never made one thirty five and and she did say that she would die if she made one thirty five so actually actually not the best thing she does look like the tranny from orange is the new black to have that hanging over their head would be I don't can't even laugh at these jokes Honestly, no, no, it's not even that I hate that you guys think I'm corporate. I'm really not but I've never seen that show

You're not corporate listen. You're not corporate your job is We have a job is independent though, too, right? You have like your own thing as well. No, I work for someone It's just the internet do you still work for fox work for fox and as it at your your work for fox and this is known the owner of the comedy salary this is a real hawani he's uh... he was uh... fox he works for mm i one of my what the fuck is your thing i work for fox for explanation

explanation is a big mma guy he's the how it goes sell of MMA. That's what I keep saying what's MMA? Mixed martial arts. He knows I barely know I barely know he's very fat. He owns a 2% stake in the UFC actually No, I'm not doing very well. I've only heard of it. I've never seen it. Wow. Well, he's one of the The guys that started with it and he moved up the ladder and he's I love your news channel no i don't really have much to do with that i think for the what's his new channel well fox no i'll fox of course you do are you are you right when i know kelly are you kidding me i don't know that that they've been him

yeah look at this look at this guy uh... that that that that that that that that that the garbage mogul son that that the little thing that that that that that is he his father makes him collect the garbage money from that. That's by the way, such a long offer them free spots here. If he took, if he let him get free go. Wow. What someone says you own everything so you must be a right-wing guy. That's such a misunderstanding. You know, the every go survey billionaires and see whether they're Democrats. Well, you can just say, look at you. Yeah, I'm broke. God bless you. Why aren't you on in the solar? You're absolutely. Oh, my God. Oh, look at you. Yeah, I'm broke. God bless you. What why aren't you wanting to sell your absolute?

Oh my god. I'm here. Yeah. What's happening? Exactly right. What does it have to do? First of all, whatever. I'm not going to argue politics.

MMA. Go ahead. Go. Sure. Sure. But basically, you know, you know, the big, the world, Democrats, I want to ask a question from known because you're not a fan of the sport, but you know of it. Do you, do you like it?

Have you seen it? What is your impression of the sport? People like kick the shit out of each other were like with Bruce Lee moves and stuff and everything's legal. Hang on one second. Can you leave? I don't know what it is. Bruce Lee? You couldn't, but they're fighting. You couldn't bring up job clonvin. Somebody... What if he just starts describing Street Fighter One of them is greenin from Brazil and has electrical powers. Oh Yeah, there's like other cheat codes

I don't watch it until the fatalities happen. That's when I give a shit. I use series. You've never watched a US I've never watched it. Can we do One night at the village underground or maybe at the seller Can we do one night at the Village Underground, or maybe at the seller do a UFC event, like get the pay for you? Oh, because it's the restaurant, right? Yeah, they go by the capacity of the venue, and they show you a chance to do a Fox free show.

Yeah, sure. Well, can we do a Fox free show here one night? Sure, what is that? With UFC? April 19th. May money from that? Oh, God. Yes, you can charge it to the door.

You can make a Republican thing to say. What is your opinion of why you shouldn't be conservative? Well, what's so great about being a member of the bill? First of all, I'm actually, I kind of side with the conservatives. I mean, physically libertarians. Yeah, I'm best friends with Dave, this guy's a libertarian,

I listen to his shit all the time. But the athletic commission should get out of mma that's my big relation okay why because that well i mean i think if you looked at every major problem in mma or if you hold fans should what's the major problem with mma you're gonna get back the judging system uh... the judges rather the scoring system that you think they're also the reason you can call it a sport

no the besides boxing there's no other yeah but we're actually they they they uh... reason you can call it a sport no besides boxing there's no other yeah they they uh... one other sport that we you can compare that is commissioned by the governments boxing it's the most corrupt sport that exists but those things when the government involved is much more i brought this up and i and i said look it because because often people think that the ufc are the ones who hired the judges and the referees only when they go into

internationally you know they know it will always complain on the ref and the referees only when they go internationally. But you know, day in and way will always complain, ah, the ref suck, the judge suck, so at the end of the day, you want to control your own destiny, you should take it into your own hands. But here's the problem. You can compare the UFC to the NFL to the NBA because that's one owner compared to a lead. So if the UFC started hiring their own judges and refs and some controversy happen, people

will think the fix is in. There's gambling, Vegas, all this stuff. But people do think that about the NBA and a lot of these other sports. Boxing is completely regulated by the government. Who doesn't think the fix is in boxing? I mean, the effect is. When anyone makes a big bet and they lose and get their legs broken, they always think the fix is in.

If you lose a bet, that's what this was. Of all the sports, I mean, boxing is the sport that's had the most, we actually know the fix was in in the all the sports. I mean, I mean, boxing is the sport that's had the most um, we actually know the fix was in in the most, you know, like different sports, uh, the pack. Yeah, Bradley, right, right. That was a fix. They did that just because they would get another fight. And then when, uh, uh, may weather, uh, CJ Ross scored a draw in his last fight when he smoked, but here's the thing jim dolan can't hire his own refs to go uh... ref a nickname it would be a conflict of interest no but that's not that that's like saying if

chocolate l was able to hire his own ref to fight yeah because he's on the don't know is the owner yet he owns a team i mean he's yes like if you have to use a team guys are arguing yet like the you see in that sense to me that's not like john maybe that's like john hackleman uh... buying the word chocolate. I think the UFC, they know it is Jerry Jones, but why can't there be corruption from the athletic commission? I mean, like, they could, but then what do you do? I think just wash your hands of it. I think

there's no, there's no justification for the government to be regulated. And here's what I do agree with. They're on one thing though. When they do go into their own areas, like Brazil and where they don't have a political I think Brazil does have a lot of information here but it's really the one they regulate themselves they're genuinely really aren't too many problems so I don't really under like I do get what you're saying you also can have private commissions by the way they doesn't have to be one government commission for Nevada be great if there was a commission independent body these are all great ideas but I don't think that

you they'd have to They have to reinvent the wheel like it's never been reinvented before in sports, right? Like the commissions how would they allow this to happen the commissions can actually bar them This system is in place, but I do agree the commissions for the most part are doing a disservice to the support And I also the reservations maybe that's the Reservations part of the commission. Yeah, it was it was when it was Reservation fucking 400 people in the crowd. So fucking people selling opium Belice will go to residence. Well, the wrestling that's when Vince just said it was fake so that they to lose the commission fees

They're like no, we're entertainment. This is all pre-planned and yeah, that was a big deal Yeah, and now but I think that the the UFC the WWE the WWE with their new channel, it's not working so good. It's not, it just launched. I think it's working great. I talked to Soda about this. Soda was a guy, this was the perfect example. I was like, well, how many pay-per-views do you buy a year? He's like, I'll buy WrestleMania every year.

So you spend 50 bucks every year. I was like, now you're spending 120. They got you. And they're giving you WrestleMania for the first year for free. But the year after that, they're charging for WrestleMania. So they got you for your 120. You're probably gonna get super invested in the sport again. They're banking on that. So now they got you for another 50.

So they got you for 170, whereas last year they got them for 50. So he's the example of how it could work beautifully. For him. But then there's those guys who buy all the pay-per-views. Right. Now they're gonna only have to- I'm saying for the fan, not for them. I'm saying that when I watch Raw, I love Raw. But now there's all this- I watch it every week. I watch it every week, but I'm saying I'm saying for the fan not for them I'm saying that when I I watch raw I love raw, but now there's all this other shit every week

I will not every week, but I watch it time to watch three hours of that. I don't watch three hours I watch it. I'm watching I'm watching on Tellamundo, too I'm fascinated by the wrestling fan of 2014 because I used to be the biggest I do shows I come home I fast forward but you watch ross mac down all that stuff uh... all usually i watch i'll watch raw all read the spoilers for smacked down right if there's something really interesting like a match or promo that i want to see the nal cherry pick i'm not gonna watch i'm not yeah i'm not that frustrated with the creative like

don't you feel like it's so stale like it's the same stuff over in the paper views really mean that they just a lot of right what basically uh... what they just or the rods are glorified paper views I mean it goes both ways with you know sure but they were charging up until last month 55 bucks for those pay-per-views I will say this what they the audible they just caused with dent called with Daniel Bryan that got me it was happen so he is fighting triple H and he wins. I love it. He goes in to the main event that night. They had 200 people come out in his shirts in his shirts.

In the ring. The whole crowd. But look at me. That's the only athlete I have. Daniel Ryan. It hasn't been since Vlady Devock that I've had anyone in wrestling. You can wrestle twice that night on WrestleMania. That's the situation. But the best part was- The best part was- Did that attend? Sure. What he did though is he got 200 people into the ring and fans.

And you can tell they were real fans, can you? Both of them were employees that turned out, but it was cool. Yeah. They didn't know what to do. You know what? You don't want a Mandela signed guy, fucking incident. You got a pre-screen. But the place was going nuts. really just fucking nuts like I haven't seen it along at the best since the rock

Really Stephanie starts like shrieking and everything. He's like this is our ring She's like actually we own it. It's ours They kept sending people down and they were like there was so the 200 people like fuck will kill you So the first match is Triple H, and then if he wins, he goes in triple threat match with the order of these. But he said, yeah, yeah. Who no one wants to see, right?

No one likes it. No, that was, that was the amazing, that's, so that's what, that's what's cool about wrestling sometimes is that. So they push Batista, it fails terribly. Everyone, I mean, he's the saddest, he looks like all of the characters from the Italian job remake made into one person.

The fucking worst, you know, with the tummy tattoo and the fucking mom gene. Yeah, he's such a 1990s wrestler. Yeah, yeah, no. He looks like every day. A tribal tattoo. He looks like everything that beat me up in high school. I don't wanna see him when Rumble.

I just know that this side of the room has gotten very quiet off the hook. No, I'm in, I'm in. Okay, I'm in. So, I like a more of a pussy in my entire life Like sometimes I come up here wait you not knowing about pro wrestling just makes you more of a man You're fine. Well, I okay. I'll take that but it's like there's certain topics It seems like everybody knows about sure that I don't know about one is wrestling and the others like trannies Like I'll come up here and everybody knows

everything about trainees. Where are they hanging out? Well, they're both the same because you think it's real, but it's not. There is something similar to there, right? Like all the elements in everything about trainees. And the same guys are into mixed martial arts. I think the trainees in mixed martial arts,

what's the next thing? My favorite fighter is the talent for this. Sometimes Brock Lesnar no sells the same the some pile driver and sometimes you know Cellulady dick, you know it's the same thing my god That's a vagina on that man. It's got as my witness. It is broken in half. Oh, he she's gonna puke I was I was a hard-porked you dressling fan, but I'm not I haven't I haven't I can't watch I've tried every now now Now that all has a new way to make stop did you just ask that? I mean no, I know that it's fake I was like why would you be a huge family? You know it's fake?

That's the thing I never got The trend is your favorite TV show do watch TV house the cards you watch one of those I watch house cars. Yeah, is that real? Do you watch TV House of cards you watch one of those cars. Yeah, is that real? That It's his building One second if you think he's gonna give up look on the wall. That's a lot of grief. Oh, it's not happening I really I really wanted to start cutting a Vince McMahon promo on it Your I really I really want him to start cutting a Vince McMahon promo on it Fire On speeches because it's it's well, I guess it is the same thing if but are you watching it like you watch a sitcom?

I mean I would watch shame. There's a story arc. There's the villain. There's the good guy It's like an action movie, dude. $50 pay-per-view of House of Cards. Comedy is fake, that's it. Women, women. No, Netflix, you women. Don't be shopping as much as comics, say they are.

Lots of comedy is fucking made up. But could they put a house of cards up there for 50 bucks and people are gonna buy for what? They would. I actually think they were for one episode. Don't you think people would if they did a big president live? If he was alive. If you got to see frank underwood in a steel cage yeah that'd be fucking awesome you know it's not get to get rid of the bomb bandana

for getting a funny one you got to give it to the person who bombs next I just don't worry you'll be throwing it that way and then Lou takes a bandana out of his fucking pocket but it's like a magic trick it's just bandana a bandana out of his fucking pocket, but it's like a magic trick. It's just bandana after bandana. So what is it then? What is it that you guys appreciate about the wrestling? It's raw magentry, the show. It's like this spectacle.

It's exciting. There's that let us know they do crazy shit. But nobody knows how hard it is to be a wrestler because not only do you have to do the physical own work, which is very hard to do without getting injured or injuring somebody else. They're cutting promos. They're literally getting a script from somebody, having to memorize it and then add themselves to it and come up with these things that are engaging

and go and sell it to a live audience and then thousands of people out there. That's as being an actor, that's really hard. Here's a good example. So CM Punk, would your interview with his awesome? below that as as as as being an actor that's really hard. Here's a good example. So so CM Punk, would your interview with his awesome? Oh, thank you. So he says he's going to leave the cut. This is in 2011. He's going to leave the company. His boss is Vince McMahon. He doesn't want to work for him anymore. He has one last match. If he wins the belt, he takes

the belt with him out of the company. He's no longer in it. That's interesting. He cuts a promo where he complains about the infrastructure, how the wrong guys are the stars. He should be the star, the other little guys should be the stars. That gets you emotionally invested because there is, the best. If you think it's real, but here's a thing though.

There is reality in it. There's reality in it. So that's how they will never, you know, it's kind of real. There's no reality in it. You guys are all on will never. You know, it's kind of real. There's no reality in it. You guys are all there is because not an ounce of reality. The amp was the guy who at that point

had never main evented that much before. And he wrestles against the guy who's been main eventing for the last seven years. That's a genuine real conflict. The guy who's been on top. And the guy who's hungry to get on top. No, it's not a genuine conflict because who was gonna win that match is decided by McMahon. But their animosity comes from a gender place.

Your emotions and they get you involved. Like a play, have you ever seen a play? No, but what he's saying is that it's kind of real, but it's not real. It's a real drama except that whoever actually wins the fight but it's pretty determined so they can't really fight. The star right now is a little bearded guy who is the best wrestler and by that I mean he puts on better matches than anybody. Like his matches are just more entertaining. His best former.

For whatever reason he's not. He's the Michael Chey of wrestling. Yeah, he's not. He's not the gnome of wrestling. Yeah, he's not. He's not the scar. He's not the face of the company. So now the storyline is, he's going up against the boss

who used to be a wrestler to become the star of the company. There's genuine, you know, it's like, how can we don't give me spots? There's no genuine because it's fixed. But there's a spirit. You can't actually win the match and then get to be the star You know I think the belt in a position that I'm at my dad. Can I say something really quick? I've wanted an aerial on for so long. I finally got him here and you're gonna fuck it up for me

All right put your finger down at least I Based based on where you are in the card does determine how much money you make and this guy Vince the guy who runs it kill literally like Okay, if there's like some some wrestler have like his girl and she'll be like his you know some his like chick He'll be like his manager or whatever and then she'll start fucking another wrestler and he'll like make her go be that guys Like he just loves doing oh Politician She killed Peter Schiff every once in a while. Oh while Owen Hart will die for real in the middle of the ring

Jeez, you know, I know you're gonna I knew you what time is it? How long did we go? Wait, wait, I'm not gonna throw this at you. I'm just gonna let we run from the top of the Throw given the bomb and then I'm gonna go and hurt this band-in That's terrible. It's just terrible. I'm sorry. I didn't hear it. And don't go home to your wife and son tonight

if you want to make Ben watch it. You understand he's from Canada. I'm from Canada. He's from Canada. But the MMA, but Montreal, they're about to scumbag. That's that big. Whoa. Whoa.

What you said? I said, a Montreal, they're about to just come back. And I watched the grassy when I was a kid. That's where all the bad kids came from. No, UFC is absolutely not fixed. The MMA you have to hear the same thing the same thing You have seized the NFL MMA is football. Yeah, get it. Yeah, the sport is Ariel is one of the top broadcasters on one of The how about it?

What about the girl though from from Married Karen Bryant. Oh, she I remember What about the girl though from from Caron Bryant oh Ariel was putting out his videos back in the day one of the first guys. I mean getting heat It was just it was just him and then these MMA heat but but then then Karen started doing it and then she did the one with rampage where he he did the the boat right the little rampage where he he did the the boat right the little Motorboat in between her thing and she blew up you like that. I didn't like it at all. Okay. I did not like that I thought she should have said something you know the funny part about that story is that the cameraman was her husband No, yeah, see that's why we love area long because we get the fucking dirt You would have saw the camera drop or

smash right up rampages head and then me running of course you to the yeah if he did that to my wife I would have been I would have been pissed yeah dude I could I would I would I would have taken the ill I would have fucking the fighter would you be able to send a rampage and she's a fan of rampage she knew he was right and if you saw any of rampages Japanese videos that he made he's out of his mind. He's he would do weird shit to women. She could have been and she wanted to have rampage in jail though for that. I mean I don't want to.

I mean, a jail. Yeah, dude, I mean, that's a big thing. A bigger thing could have been made, but the route that she went was we were playing around with our friends. Yeah, she was, she did the right thing because if she went that, that would have fucked her later. A lot of people would have been scared like, shit and she it not that she was wrong but she did the right thing I think for herself and for her interviewing but Bobby has

a fucking mind in the 40s Jesus Christ that's not the right thing no it is I look I would love to see her go hey what the fuck you doing but if she did that he would it went back to the 40s they would have killed him immediately. That's what she was. That's what she was. He would, he actually would make fighting. What were you saying? You were saying I had to be there. She would have been there either. You were implying was I had the videos.

She came out with the rampage thing. She had done a lot. She was like a 20 year head start on me. She was like one of people going to the TVJ. Well, she caught up with it. I remember when I was sending you things. And then what happened? She was saying that's her past. No, she catching up. She her video started getting some good heat

Right and then you but you were still there. I mean you're my favorite. Okay, and then she sounds like you're no But did you cut up the bandwagon? Then all of a sudden I saw her at the front of the fox thing sure sure But then you're he'll turn right now're but you're the guy who's on the Cache reel you're the guy that's on the Arrayos are real as dude this whole time. Yeah, you're real as dude. I don't need from a prompter You want to see me at a desk saying welcome fans inside the ring now. I keep I'm in the back Getting the answer so the questions that you want right? You don't want to see me like that you but you did yeah I absolutely don't know where in

me like that. But you think yeah, I absolutely don't. No one wears planes, fair and fake, carreels better. No one wears plan unless they have integrity and live in Brooklyn. Everything's just like an old comic. So I mean, but now that you're on the show, it's you, her, who I mean Kenny is. Kenny's great. Chails awesome. Channel and Kenny are great, they really work well together. They're, they're very good. I think Kenny in general has turned into like a really excellent. I know. He really is amazing.

He's really good and I agree with you. Dominic Cruz is really good. I agree with you. Daniel Cormier. Wait a minute, what did you say? Dominic Cruz, not a fan. I'm a fan of Dominic Cruz, but he, no one studies more.

Really? No one studies more. That's a real shame what's happened to that kid man. That's what I'm sad. Did he was just Maybe into his piece, you know, I think you should take a few sentences to just explain to people listening who these people are something some some no Everybody listening knows everybody who listens to your show follows this stuff Well, this this specific show we tweeted out as an MMA A place so and if you don't know fucking Google it, but yeah, I mean most everybody what listens to the show right now knows exactly Look at I am the least schooled. Are you really in this room? No education

In this room really really now I think I think out of MMA absolutely. I mean, I know more than Chris or I know as much as him But you probably know I know more than Chris or I know as much as him, but you probably know I know more than Lawrence but these two and you know how many shows will you watch I watch well since I had a kid you watch all the paper views I watch all the paper views and if I don't watch them that night I'll watch them another night I'll go see him live I'm pretty but a lot of time they're Saturday night I'm doing a show myself those are my nights that I work. I'm like these guys who are middleers who don't work on Saturdays.

So we got a middle on Saturday. When you guys work. I know we work every night too, but what I'll do is I'll just watch them. But this Saturday of four. They don't go up at the end of the show. They go up in the middle so they can run to the bar. Yeah, that's what I do.

I go to the fucking bar or I go to the green room at my computer and I'll just order it in UFC.com. Really, yeah, that's great. His name is Ariel. Yeah, can I ask you a quick, you have children? Yes, too. How old? 22 months and three weeks.

Do you let the watch list up? Well, I mean, 22 months and three weeks. And the three week old watch list. And 22 months, he has no idea, I mean, no, he has no interest. He wants to watch Elmo. Would I let him watch it? Absolutely. That's interesting to say that because why?

Why, why? Explain why. Because it would be incredibly hypocritical if I didn't I grew up watching it at Any age you'd let him watch it absolutely Why but you don't have no problem when my dad used to hate it my dad would get so mad at me when I watch wrestling and fighting and all this stuff and I never went out and beat people up. I was I was never a troublemaker. It's great. It's a beautiful sport I have no problem with you think that because I and I he's gonna be slapping his five-year-old kid and the kids gonna Reversed into an arm boy. I mean just to be said. I mean there's there's lots of studies that said football is more dangerous

I don't want my kid to play football my kids that play football either I have like my only issue and I'm a huge fan I just got one second either put that on That shit don't go that had does add 20 pounds to put that on. Okay, get off. That shit don't go. That had does add 20 pounds. God, we're having this dumb video. So no, like I think I mean, I truly do believe that the sport does desensitize you to violence

to a certain degree. I know it has may before I got into combat sports, I would watch a street fight and I would turn the other way. It would make me queasy inside. And since I've sort of watching UFC obsessively, now if I see a street fight I'm kind of like, oh shit I want to see if these guys actually had a fight. But you also live in Harlem. So, you know.

You see a lot of street fights. A lot of street fights. No, I'm just saying I think there is a genuine thing there where it is desensitizing children to violence and I don't know if, you know, I don't know if I'm going to be able to hide it from my son because I'm such a, I watch it obsessively. Oh, just son. He's 14 months. 14 months. I don't know, you know, I'm going to make watch it obsessed on your son he's 14 months 14

months I don't know you know I'm gonna make that choice too is my kid gonna am I gonna let my kid watch a UFC fight because never one that's gonna be blood sometimes this arms broke isn't it hypocritical if you don't I'm an adult I don't I'm not gonna let him watch porn either yeah very good point but again I don't I'm gonna let my kid watch porn though I'm not gonna do that I'm gonna make my kid do porn though. I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna make my kid do porn. I'm gonna make my kid do porn with you. What do you start with? You only say one of your kids is baby porn.

That'll be the only reason when your kid's goes to Duke University. Oh, wow. Where'd it be top? Where'd it be top, oh yeah, top. They went to the bearded guy. When did you start watching wrestling and things like that? Shit, when I was a kid.

I mean, I watched W.S. You turned out. Yeah, I'm awful. I went was, I am when I was a kid. I mean, back, I mean, I watched W. You turned out. Yeah, I'm awful. I went to rehab at 15. I was an addict. That's what I got, I was with Ariel until he went to the look how you turned out. I'm like that, I was.

Yeah, I'm all fucked up. My father let me watch whatever I wanted. I mean, I remember he took me to see straw dogs at like, Oh, what a great movie. At like eight years old. Jesus, a horrible rapes and a l- I just remember the lady in the box office screaming at him Wow, I'm telling her to mine her own fucking business. My mom

Siddler's doing my mom let me watch Clockwork a real rapes scene clock were garaged when I was like seven I remember I found out what rape was not just what rape was what gang rape in front of a woman's husband was Why are we putting MMA into this category? Yeah, what the fuck is this? What is it getting here? But having said, and I, you know, I wrote a pile of things like that. Wait a minute, stop the sport.

That, this one, he knows this business so well. The snippet is gonna be gang rape, and then Ariel's voice. Listen, I don't know. Yeah, look, MMA is a sport. It's voluntary sport. I'm not gonna lie about my kids. It is what I'm trying to say. voluntary What about football even though I was a lot no football doesn't appear to be

Violent Because there's a ball and we know that as adults but his kids look like like they're bumping each other kind of wrestling Right as opposed to like trying to hurt each other But I felt that way about boxing when I was a kid it was kind of just like It wasn't real like, you know what I mean, you're as a kid. But a kid is a thing though, when you, I'm gonna put my kid in Jiu-Jitsu classes

because I know there's gonna be somebody there who's gonna teach him how to act. Oh, that's how to defend himself. I think you just have to defend himself. And also to, the toughest kids are also the calmest kids. The reason why I used to fight so much is because I was afraid. When you take the fear out of getting beat up, you're not angry, you're not attacking people.

You never saw Rocky Fie, Frank if you're as my best friend. You know what I'm saying? I used to fight all the time because I was afraid of getting beat up. Did you fight because you watched combat sports? No, not at all you were a Combat sports won a lot when I was a kid now and then I got what I'm just saying like I like I'm not saying my kid would fight because of Combat sports I think there's a I don't know if I want my kid to be desensitized to blood that young dude If it like look if at 10 or 12 you can't even say hey that I'm really interested in sport that you watch

I might be a little bit more willing but at five or six. I just think it's a little bit too young to be exposed And you don't know until after that. Just teach him the concept. Did you ever see them? Show them a Muhammad Ali fight from the 70s and then an interview from now on. Did you ever see, and then did you ever see mankind's kid at the match?

Yeah, and what? I should note that, like if I'm watching a paper view or something for work, I'm not going to tell my son, hey, come sit with me, let's watch this. Only when he's interested in it. I will know for some to watch anything, but I don't have a problem if at six or seven, he says, I want to watch this with you. I don't have a problem because I'll teach him.

I'm not saying what you're saying ridiculous. I mean, you just don't know. So I'm just not going to take the chance. I mean, Hitler didn't watch MMA or TV. He's a pretty violent. He's a great guy. He's a great woman. Listen, a lot of tarp.

Can we stop with these key gang raping Hitler? What do you want? Are they called an analogy? I'll tell them about another guy. The point is that it's not as if mankind turn more violent once people start to see violence and stop what's against television. Can I explain something to you? Man kind, he's the wrestler's name. It's actually a wrestler's name, man kind of.

But I was talking about, not to say you're dumb and this is that man kind of. I know, but I was talking about man kind of. Are you talking about the Beyond the Man? Yes. He's getting on the chair shot. What a documentary. Well, that wasn't supposed to happen

in the first place. His last name is Condo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think he was referred to just bringing him in the first place. The first name is man, his last name is Kano. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think he was referred to just bringing him in the front row. What is in the front row when he's wanting to? But that wasn't even planned. I mean, he was supposed to take like two chair shots and the rock just went crazy within and

gave him 11. Well, he needed to know his damn role. Yeah. And now no one, there's no chair shots at all in wrestling. None. Not to the head. Really? I didn't even notice that. That's all all in wrestling. None. Not to the head. Really? I didn't even notice that. That's all to the bad.

That's all to the bad. That's all to the bad. Can I ask one more question? Can I go? Do you fight with your wife in front of your children? No. No. What do you fight?

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Wow, you mean it. I never had to fight that one three rounds for fun. You don't need it. I don't fight with my wife since I had kids. My wife screams yells at me. I don't say, you fucking fought when you came into my house yesterday. You were arguing as soon as you walked in the door, you argue about who picked out since I had kids, my wife screams, yells at me, I don't say a word for it. You fucking fought when you came into my house yesterday. You were arguing as soon as you walked in the door, you argued, you argued.

About who picked out your house? Yes. That wasn't a real argument. That do you not fight because you don't want your kids to see you guys? My wife's irrational, you cannot, you can't reason with her. And they don't fight. And prior to the kids, I would just get into a tit

for tat and we get sheet screaming, and I slammed, but I don't want the kids, I would just get into a tit for tat and we get sheet screaming and I slammed and but I don't want the kids like my only trauma is a child seeing my parents like having a horrible Arguments. So I mean I'm not gonna do this in front of my kids So I just I felt I felt like this now. I used to we used to have fight fights I would flip up but now I'll fight I'll just walk it away and I go in the other room and then I come back and I go Yeah, that's bullshit and then I walk away. I go I gotta leave because I I'm slowly away and I go on the other room and then I come back and I go I'm like that's bullshit and then I walk away I go I gotta leave because I I I'm slowly bring it down right I'm slowly bring it down and then I'm I'm just

trying not to because we used to have you know you know you ba ba ba ba ba ba now the kids there even I'm just like okay I gotta go right I gotta leave and I go somewhere and I and then I'll come back in but you fucking I gotta go wait until the kids sleeping yeah yeah well well, I think you can still hear it even if he's sleeping. I think you can still hear it It's hard though. It's hard because of the time we're into we just moved We've fought like it's a weird thing. I was trying to tell my wife That and talk about a last show we just moved into our home We've been in transition for a long time,

since the kid was born. We've been by transition. We sold my place, rented a place, and looked for a place to buy to get out, I got out of the city, I moved up to our sister. So we've been living out of bags and packing and unpacking and this transition and having the new baby and all this stuff.

So it's been one of the most stressful times of my life, and then dealing with contractors and all this shit. So now the other Sunday night we finally moved in. It was the first night where we didn't have to wake up and do something the next day. We could just wake up for months. For months. So it's almost like a lot of,

like I get to just go home now. Why do you choose to go out all the way there? I'm fascinated by this one because I'm in the same position. Okay, because I lived in the city, I lived in, I have an awesome one bedroom on Hell's Kitchen, I loved it, and it was, I couldn't do it anymore.

I, I, I talked to guy, like, no, I talked to no, actually, and he, I didn't want Long Island because it sucks. Get out there, or Jersey, the bridge is in the tunnel blows and Westchester is straight up the sawmill. There's no traffic and I went up there and Ardzli and Hartstale and it's 25 minutes to the city the trains are right there It's like this beautiful weird oasis so close to the city

But I go home and I pull into a driveway. And my wife is not a captive anymore. She needs grocery. She gets in the car with a baby and she goes to a big, huge grocery store and walks around for a little while and takes her time. And she's not packed up in this little shitty grocery store. It has to go to another place for me and another place for vegetables. She goes, and then she'll go over to a furniture store. She does whatever

She has fun now with her life with her and the kid Everything home in a car and the car Pulled to the driveway and take it out whenever she wants and leave the fucking door Buildings collapse from a safe distance. I don't live there. We live we live we let the dogs out At night just let them out after block them up and the winter walk outside. It's all the stress is gone. Cause life, I'm enjoying, I'm finally enjoying my family now.

Cause it's, I wake up, it's quiet. I don't have to worry about these fucking dumb neighbors. I don't have to worry about. Oh, but I really thought you were gonna say a different word. All right. All right. All right.

All right. All right. It is good. afraid. It is the... It was the scariest thing I did because I was so afraid of moving out of the cool place. It's the best thing I ever did. Really? Ever fucking did my life. That would be the best advertising for the suburbs I've ever heard of my fucking life. And I am as close to the city as I was when I lived on 47th Street because I took the train

or a cab. I'm closer than I was when I lived in Midtown. I mean, I mean, that's mental. Mentally, I am. How do you get to the city? I drive right in in my night. It's a brand new Honda pilot that's leased and I get the XM plan.

Sometimes the area of Hawaii show. Wow. That's on there. From the MMA app, the MMA fighting app that I have, which is brilliant, by the way, and is the only app after any UFC event, I go to you and then I go to MMA underground. But you first, because you have all

every fucking interview I want. And great interviews, not these 332nd, hey, good, thank you, you really get into it, really long and the quality's amazing on an app. I don't get how you get that. I just got to watch Ariel's interview style as well. Like you said, you're like, can I move up there and it's like,

put why though? And then you just, you just, the reason why I move, it is if anybody with a kid, if you have a kid, it relieves all the pressure and the airports are the same distance. You think, well it's close. It's not so where are you? I'm in I'm right now. I'm in it's comfort. It's Elmsford

No, it's why no because it's weird. It's it's white planes, but it's really left of white planes And why are you asking him because he's he lives like a quarter of a mile pass, honestly. I live right near him. We live right near each other. But that's another thing too. My wife and his wife, she'll go over there and hang out, oh, they go to Jimbury. There's like this, at this stage of life, it's better to live up there.

When I was in my early 30s, I get living in the city, but at this stage of life, I can go on the road and know my family, if anything happens, what can jump in a car and go back to Boston can go over his house It when we lived here. It was just a nightmare to do anything my my babies are us was in time square Yeah, so she had to blow the baby up and then walk through thousands of shit head tours of neighbors You know they're? To go get diapers. You know, so, but all that's gone. It's all done.

And it's the best thing. I have an office, the space, my house, how great is my house? It's pretty big. I didn't say big. How big it was. Let's go. I'm deaf. What do you is why this is why even the

As great as your house the X-Men lived in Westchester and not man had it This is right no, I'm so I really didn't Because he's a fucking million it's gonna That's not nice. That's not what I mean. I really thought you said how big how great is a house is great Oh, okay, so great that I'm one told you that you're being a kid. You did. Yeah, absolutely. I personally picked it up.

I personally picked it up. He really did, yeah. He was your real estate agent. No, I told him about the house. Then I backed out of it because it's a ranch. And I was like, I want a basement and all this shit and furnished that guy thing. And then he was like, you should really come and look at it.

He went and looked at it. What does ranch mean, by the other dumbest What is it one floor that's what a ranch one for so I always think like that means you have like No, no that's what a ranch was back in the day was one floor house Horses, but I do have a huge backyard a huge front yard a quiet street So my you know that I saw my grass for the first time, my yard, my yard, now that it's mine. And my kid, I brought him out and he was just looking around the yard, like, what the fuck is this? You know what I mean? I know. It's because it's a little slow.

And it's 14. But it's, um, he almost made a huge mistake because he almost was going to move, like, further north or to Wapley County or something. Yeah. I went, he didn't understand how significant the commute is. That's why I would say. Yeah, 10 minutes more is too much, but right where I arjlee, hard-stale, wormford, white planes. As things stop, it's very tough. It is so fucking awesome to live there as a family.

I'm telling you, dude, it's the best. And then you go to a diner, and we go to a restaurant the other night. You walk in, and it's the fucking best food ever. You know why? Because it's up there and if it isn't good, they're fucking closing. You know, it's not like New York

that a place opens up every fucking nine seconds in the same spot. I would get the fuck out of the city. I get the sense you're very happy. Oh yeah, most of the best. Yeah, you would be too. You could see you have a backyard. No, yeah.

Living in a apartment. Yeah, so you're living in apartments. You have people on the side of you, right? Sure. Yeah, I Boo, I've been the reason I'm asking you so many questions because we've been looking for the last year and a half to move and we keep deciding about The suburbs or staying in Brooklyn don't do it and I don't get out of Brooklyn get out of Brooklyn Brooklyn is so I will say right here. I'll tell you why I don't know Brooklyn fan if you if you if you had no kids or whatever and if you had millions I don't know how much money you might have a fucking millions of dollars from I don't know where you're at financially if you have enough

Multi multi multi if you have enough if you have enough money to stand Brooklyn. There's a it's it's the hottest real state It's harder than Manhattan right now. So expensive, but you're gonna pay out of your fuck when I was it around So expensive, but you're gonna pay out of your fuck when I was it around Ten years ago when I was looking in Brooklyn. I I was looking at places for $500,000 an old fire station that they redid with all this. Yeah, there was nothing. It was great You you're you're fuck now. It's harder than Manhattan. Yeah, right now So if you're gonna if you have the money stand Brooklyn, but I got a great house But oh, I can't tell you how much. I think my mortgage is $2,200 a month, all right?

It's crazy. Three bedroom, tube full baths, front yard backyard, awesome neighborhood, and right off the sawmill, and I'm 25, 30 minutes into the city. If you're staying Brooklyn, it's still New York City public schools, right? Sure, but you don't want that. Well, the other thing is I'm not orthodox, Jew, but I want to send my kids to Jewish school.

Why? Well, kid, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I got my friends here. I have my friends here. That's why he wants to stay in Brooklyn. Stay in Brooklyn.

All the book buildings. Be with your people. Stay in Brooklyn, dude. I feel like we've lost again this time. No, I get it. I mean, it's quite the Jew. I'm to stay in Brooklyn. Stay in Brooklyn, all the bull building. Be with your people, stay in Brooklyn, dude. I feel like we've lost again this side. No, I get it. That means quite the Jew. I'm also a Brooklyn Jew. I'm waiting on all the cards.

Ariel requested I sit next to him because I have a sit at my face. Oh my God, I just realized, exactly how Jimmy the show is. Majority Jew in the room. You really do have a B and H photo face. I did. Why did you say that?

Good morning. So anyways, get in. I think Woody Allen did it, but my beard thinks he's innocent. That's a huge ass quote. Getting back to the MMA and we're going to wrap this show up. I have to go. All right, buddy. I'll see you later.

Yeah, pleasure. Can I say one more point about the, can you not give me devil horns when you do it? Bro! I can. Look at his grace. What? Are you going to let gonna let your are you gonna encourage your kids into learning how to fight doing presented to jitsu doing more tie because I my concern because Bobby mentioned that before about in rolling his son in jiu jitsu. I always wanted to do it, but now that I'm doing research and I don't have family so I think

I have this weird paranoia about losing my kid more than other people have. But like you hear about these skin Diseases you like herpes gladatorium and fucking that's fucking That's real shit that exists just part of the grappling lifestyle and for me at when my kids four or five years Oh when they encourage you to start doing it For me to put him at that risk for my own weird thing. It's just I I'm kind of having a struggle Justifying that. So when I was a kid, I always liked the stuff,

maybe not four or five, but I remember watching like WrestleMania one, which was 1985, so I was three at the time. I probably saw a couple of years late, maybe five or so. Smoke free class 2000? Was he me? Class of 2000? No, 99.

Oh, damn, so close. Kind of a good, weird moment. So, yeah, that was worth working out. We just found out Lewis graduated. I love that. I think we'll be, you know. Neither one of them have rhythm. They both fish off the bar.

Yeah, well, I wasn't sure what he was getting into, because I didn't understand what he said. We also thought he's way better than life in you, because he has a lot more shit going on. Don't ever. There's a lot of buzzwords. I'm trying, I'm getting you around him though. Every time there's a buzzwords, I make it this

Claymore after for you, Ariel. Did you graduate from the School of Hard Knocks, like Lewis? No, I did not. I did not. The Mean Street's in Montreal. Anyway, when I grew up, I always loved it, but I never wanted to fight. I always like team sports, basketball, hockey,

he's a big deal, baseball. So I'm just going to let him choose. My parents never forced me. My parents hate, like, my dad is is an immigrant from Egypt my mom from Lebanon They're not the biggest sports fans, although coincidentally my mom. I kid you not my mom who is I believe 61 or two 61 or 62 from Lebanon Watches every single UFC fight from the fight past prelims to the main event no matter the time because her son is in this sport and she just shall watch UFC tonight all the weigh-ins the post-fight it's unbelievable like a 61 year old lady from my mom

didn't even I was on a new show called sirens on USA my mom didn't even DVR it my mom's dead you're probably seem so real to me right now guys. That was in a problem by the way and I just I'm sorry I'm in any honestly mother to son bonding is a problem in my mind. Okay, okay another buzz word That is great. That's amazing. That's crazy. MMA hour, which is I don't know how people watch it because it's so long My show is four hours long now. My podcast, she'll sit there and watch the entire thing from beginning to end. Where do you do that now?

You changed the audience. Yeah, it's now out of a brine park. Because when you were on the show, we were part of AOL. How fit to post. Yeah, after Ari and Huffington came on board, they got rid of sports. Really?

So they saw this site. So she's a twat? No, no, no, she was actually very very nice to me she actually called me a few times uh... personally who's a good friend of yours and i would consider but uh... they got rid of the news bec side called a well-fanned house they got rid of that and uh... the nesb nation bought the site

and it's it's doing really well what are you doing now who you with now so i work with espionation espionation owns mma fightingcom. Okay owns that and is that is MMA mania bloody elbow. Okay, this guy is a real fan. I told you I heard these guys are huge. Did you know that? That I've made I didn't know there was all one pair. I know the show. I was coming on. But did you start MMA fighting? I just wanted to

first started that. I was actually a guy in 2001 that started MMA fighting? I just wanted to be a first person. You were, who started that? It was actually a guy in 2001 that started MMA fighting.com and then AOL bought it in, I'm gonna say 2009. Do you have stake in it? Do you own part of it? So you just work for them. I just work for them. Then they pay you now.

Did you get paid the whole time? Yeah, yeah. Well, it's short. My story was, I went to broadcast journalism school because I always wanted to be a TV guy And when I got that I went to Syracuse and that's where you know Many of the great broadcasters went Bob Kostas, Marv Albert, all those guys. There's a school called Newhouse there Which is very good, but not Howard Kostell not Howard Kostell and

When I got there I realized that everyone wanted to be the next baseball basketball football guy And so everyone was going this direction. I told my parents, I want to go that direction. This is 2001. I told them in 10 years, I believe MMA is going to be a big sport. And I believe that mainstream media is going to look around and be like, we need to get on board with this.

Let's hire the guys, the experts. I'm going to put myself in that position. So I have my own radio show and all that stuff. But when I graduated, I actually went to TV production. I worked for HBO Sports. I worked for ESPN Classic. And then I made it to Spike TV because in my mind, Spike TV was the home of the UFC I need to be there. I lasted there one week. I quit after a week because I realized that everyone was not motivated. It was a very boring job. I didn't want to be there. And they said, I'll never forget the boss said to

me, this is the biggest mistake of your career. And you will learn to regret this. And I said fine. And I'll say, I said, I say, as long as you guys want me to stay and they made me stick around for a month until they found someone to replace me because it was on such short notice. During that time, I decided that was the crossroads of my life, I started my own blog.

And I said, I'll give myself six months to get noticed, six months to become an MMA journalist. So it was from October of 2007 to April of 2008. And it was going well, there was momentum and everything, I just couldn't get a job, it's very hard to get a job, especially back then as an MMA reporter. Three days left on my deadline, myself in post-deadline,

which I was gonna stick to, got a job with a website called MMArated.com, and that's when I first started doing the videos and things like that. From there, I went to fan house, went to versus, and then NBC, and then now Fox and MMA. And with the videos, your idea was that all you? So this site was called MMArated.com, and they approached me. And their idea was the MySpace of MMA. Now this is, again, this 2008.

It was a horrendous idea. Oh, we're gonna have people sign up and talk about their fights, but it was just a horrible idea. We are gonna be completely obsolete in three years. We're gonna be out there. But back then though, that B.J. Penn had his own little MySpace.

It was the only one you're doing that. But no, but I did it. And the neighbors took over MySpace. Oh no, but I had, but there was, there was my space and then these programmers came up with their own little thing that you could have your own my space. It was just to finish. What I noticed on their site was they had these video players

and I said, I want the thing that I dislike most about MMA coverages, you know, on Sure Dog and other sites, it was just guys, they'll do respect to them. They are the pioneers of my opinion of MMA media, but it was just a guy holding a camera asking questions. So I said, I want to get a mic flag, I want to dress up, I want, you know, I take this seriously, I want to be professional, I want to present this for in a different light. And they, they thankfully gave me the keys to the car and it was no longer the my space before it ever started and it never actually launches

that. And I started doing these videos and people really thankfully dug them. They were great. They were great. And then then you started but here's a thing to do hustle because you want on every show you could funny thing is ufc wouldn't credential me back in the day really so that's why i have so much respect and affinity for the strike forces the elitix c's the afflictions the i-f-l's they're the ones that gave me the time of day ufc pr back in the day uh... the the remain nameless they don't work with UFC anymore.

Wouldn't even look at my direction. Like they consider me so small time, even though I had a degree from Syracuse, even had people vouching for me, and I must give him props, reporter for Yahoo Sports, Kevin Ioli, you probably know him. He actually went up to Dana White and said there's a kid who's trying to get in,

no one's letting him get in, you need to start credentialing him and that's when I started to get credentialed. That's great. I still have trouble getting credentials with the UFC. I have to get it through. You should. Look at you.

Well, who's your lead? You look like who are you applying for? That's why you know they always have to do the podcast. Every time I have gotten, I got them through Fox because my partner on my show worked for Fox's Latino. And he was like doing all the MMA news reporting

for Fox News Latino. So they would, you know, he's the guy who asked the question that made on that phone interview with Nick and George. He has the question that got him. Do you think George has been pampered? That's my partner. That's my partner.

Yeah. He actually just started to talk to him. What is Fox News Latino? They just talk about how they should be deporting. Like, what the fuck? Anyways. But some of us are here for comedy. What is Fox News Latina? They just talk about how they should be deport Anyways, but some of us are here for comedy. I had a I had a trouble. I had trouble Um getting a little Riley. They never even even do they did that open workout with wide men and Anderson Silver downtown I thought I'd be able to get credentials for that just through the podcast because I

Maybe I mean Ariel and somebody help him maybe you'll have somebody help you Ariel's my guy Kevin I only Bot bot Bella to just looked at me like a year a day. I don't even like you that much But Bella to her and strike force. They've always been one even on the podcast level Bjorn Nett Rebnia is a phone call away from giving you interview on my podcast Because let's be on the area of the reason to move to the suburbs. They need the coverage, right? I mean, they're in the position where they need the coverage. And the UFC, I mean, I do agree that there should be

some sort of, you know, you know, weeding out process, not every winter. Yeah, and then not everyone that has a blog should get in, there should be, but. The idea that shirt up, what can we do? That's kind of crazy. But they have a little bit,

but there was that history there. Absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely. I feel like you go, you have some, some, some understanding that when there was no money being made, these guys were out there promoting you. Dana White though, as far as fans go, as far as, he is great as far, like the press conference,

letting people in, letting people ask, I mean, those press conferences, he is a mad scientist with this stuff. He really did it differently than everyone, even from how he dresses, from how he talks. Yeah, but that's the fight game, right? I mean, Don King did it his way and he was a star. The promoter of Vince McMahon did it his way.

Even the, even the, Don King's problem, the scrum, the scrums. The scrums after, it's just, it's content after content, it's before, it's the weigh-ins, and then it's the weigh-ins and then it's the press conference and then it's the Scrum videos and everybody is a different angle and it's just content that you just keep watching that makes you want it What's up? So I was saying you said the word content Dana White is so in tune with social media and how important it is to be able to be connected

But I love that he tells people to go fuck themselves on Twitter too And he talks to them. It's like, dude, go, don't watch then, you piece of shit. But then he's so good to the fans. He's so accessible. Yes. And as a reporter, it's really the best thing. Like, you know, we were talking earlier

about our relationship and how, you know, sometimes. But as long as he gives us the time of day. Yes. Really, I don't really care what he says, or how he says it to us, because how many people in his position, I don't like calling him a commissioner because he's not, he's an owner. How to us because how many people in his position I don't like calling them a commissioner because he's not he's an owner how many owners how many people in his position of power in sports give you that much time those paper views and at one o'clock then you have to wait a half hour for the press conference then the press conference

last 45 or so a minute then he sits down with you to complete for 45 or so minutes by the time we're at a single interview then you'll do those days have kind of you know because of you because you're questioning What no I want to know I mean you you asked the hard questions Ariel what happened with you and Dana Oh back no a couple weeks ago, so I was waiting for this well Here's a deal you asked the questions that people want to know. I want to know. What's going on? And I want to have a question number two. Yeah. What's the fucking big news?

What's the breaking news? Female MMA news are talking about me. Please tell me it's not Gene Crona. What's the breaking news? Well, your boy, Joe Rogan, he was the one that kind of let the cat out of the bag. I don't know. He didn't say anything though.

He just said there's a big, you're not on speaking terms with Joe. I don't call him all the time. No Joe. Joe Rogan is what every, I think every comic and like all of us want to be just the guy who's loaded and does MMA and is Shredded and take people out. How is he so shredded because he's been he's an athlete He's been an athlete since he's held see he's folder than me. Well, what are you? Folder the me well in TRT 94 Years each like an Asian and it was on news radio like his hot pass considered like the chop the band bird

Mark Marin Mark Marin and Corral career no no what Corolla Corolla But is Coral is is is Rogan number one? He's up to his up there. It's like bird Rogan and Marin all like go back and Roggan's a star because he has a whole network so he boosts a lot of people. What do you mean by a whole network? You know, like that squad.

That squad. This is a riot cast. All these shows are on this. Oh, they do. So you guys work for riot cast? No, no. I own riotcast, me and my friend Rob. So all these shows are on a network. We're like a family.

You know, it's more like, do you feel like you can make money off podcasts? You can if you're a Rogan, if you're a Burr. The first like 10 minutes of this show are all like ads. But they're at, but he's, this how smart this guy is. He was doing ads for other companies for like supplements Right, so he went what am I doing? I'm just gonna go buy a supplement company on which is easy if you have money is on it

And then he advertises his own products on his show that's a Corolla doesn't man. Yeah, so these guys are you know Yeah, you can look when you're hitting over 200 50,000 people maybe more He's more than that half a mill to a mill. Okay, maybe more than that. He's doing more than that. Half a mill to a mill. Okay, maybe more now. Is that a per show? Yeah, per show. You're kidding. Download the Ja, per show.

He's bigger than most cable. He doesn't do radio anymore. Joe Rogan said he doesn't do radio at all anymore because White Waste of Time, he do a show. He do a podcast and advertises shows through his podcast. Well, I mean, but here's the thing though, it's everything is growth. I mean, I remember when I was doing tourgasm

and people didn't know he was a standup because he did fear factor in MMA. And then he did a tour and they were like, nobody knew he was a comic. He knew he was the fear factor guy. Yeah, now they know. It took him a while to go out and do shows and now people know he's fucking,

he's been one of my favorite comics since I saw him in Boston when I started. Comic almost seems like too narrow of a layer for what Rogan does. Rogan is like, he's like an MMA analyst, a hilarious comedian, he's a fucking psychedelic. Like he's in a Joe Rogan business. He, I think like when you look at him,

he has like an empire, right? Yeah, dude, he's just, he's a business in himself and that's like a- The smartest thing that he did, well one of the many smart things that he did was, you know, all the fans come into the events and- They just show them- Friday night, they're looking for something. It's so smart to do. Yeah, so now he gets a travel. did well one of the many smart things that he did was you know all the fans come into the events yeah and Those show the Friday night. They're looking for something so smart to do really now he gets a travel But here's a thing

This is what I love about him though is he takes all his friends with him. Oh, yeah, yeah The show is a book like if I could afford to bring the a bunch of fucking these assholes with me to do a show And he plays big venues right plays big, brings all his friends and they go up and I'll have fun and he goes up at the end and goes out. He's not worried about. He'll also do this because I actually I performed with him in Montreal. I was opening for Kurt. It was the same weekend as the UFC event in Montreal and he stopped by Jimbo's comedy

works, which is a super intimate small venue, little 120 seat like Bar almost and he came in and just did that instead of doing the bigger comedy Nest and he said it was just because he loves Jimbo. He thinks it's a great dude. Yeah, wow. Yeah, he's he's gonna shit together Yeah, he really makes you feel shitty about yourself sometimes You need people like you need people like him, but the other way he's like Matthew McCondy You know when that three things he needs you you know, I need someone to chase. So your hero is Joe Rogan and I see yours. No, he's my hero and he's someone to chase. I'm very happy that I'm surrounded by you guys

because there's one guy in comedy that fascinates me and I can't really figure it out. Russell Peters, Russell Peter, Peter Peters. Peter's Canadian, yeah. Canadian, who's not that popular in the US. Sheesh. 21 million a year is actually, yeah, Canadian, who's not that popular in the US. Shhh. 21 million a year is actually, yeah, the boy, he's fucking badass.

But how do we know what the story, like that he was just on YouTube and then that was it. Yeah, but he's very attached to that. Again, the Asian, Asian, dude, that's what his thing is. I think it's like, there's this huge influx of like Asian Americans, including Indians as well,

just, you know, Asian Americans into America, who don't have a full grasp of the language I swear to God I think this is like his okay I understand he has a people but he also he capitalized it's he's from Canada Yeah, so when somebody becomes big in Canada you're big the whole fucking country and then you a lot of that country But a lot of that goes to Europe a lot of your contact goes over to Europe, okay, and he became big But he's not big here. He's big.

He's your first generation. He's big here. He sells up theaters here. He's in the Foxwoods theater, and when I was in, one of the nicest guys on the planet. Really? I'm Canadian.

What, I tell you, I used to fucking hate Canada growing up. I used to throw you quarters right in the gutter. And you wouldn't even hear him go ting because it's some weird metal I just don't like that and then and then good for you and then And then I love it. I fucking love Canada and I love the people. I'm going back up there into I'm doing a tour of The just a laughs tour again. They're that's a material Early and neighbors. We're doing did you ever go to that? What did you say? Jazz Festival the comedy festival. What was it like going wait a minute guys guys guys do you see what he did?

Do you see what he did? He made a self-esteem Joe get Rogan who we're all gonna fucking talk about He's an ninja dude what but could I one more thing? Big Emma May fan He sees him a lot of you by the way he puts his finger out there and he think that all huge Yeah, this is what the fuck happened, you know I actually have a lot of respect for you now because in my mind

I thought that you totally forgot no I actually thought that you got so excited about all these things that we were talking about Yeah, I want I wanted to your world. I started asking about comedy. Yeah, I didn't listen to any of it I don't know you doing it again and you're doing it again. What happened? Yes with what? Oh He's fucking good Oh, wow. He's fucking good, man. Dude, I wish I didn't like Ariel so much. Where's the deal?

Which one was the question? What's the question? You didn't ask a question. What happened a couple weeks ago where you got, they said you got kicked off of soft. Not true. And they still work from, you see me on UFC tonight? But they said something happened.

What happened? Who's that? The internet, the people. And we're gonna listen to them. All the, yeah, well they said something happened. What happened? Who's that? The internet, the people. And we're going to listen to them. All the, yeah, well, sometimes it's true. I still work for UFC tonight. Why? I still work.

So nothing happened between you and Dana. I'm not it. No. Dana didn't get mad at you. Dana said, get him out of here. I want him dead. I want his family dead. He could over an argument about Russell Peters.

He's gotten mad at me before. Right. There are a few times where you don't, as a reporter, you always kind of wait for the day in a white call. Really? Yeah. Like, what is that? It's not, he's not happy.

It's not. It's not happy. He's not happy with something you wrote or said. Really? Yeah. Oh, so he'll call you up and talk to you nicely about it. But here's the funny thing about Dana. There was one time, I'll tell you guys a story

that I've never told. There was one time where he was upset about something I said on my show. Someone told him about I doubt he listens to the show. And he was mad. And I was actually going to, I was actually going to Rio for UFC 163, Korean Zombie versus, it was supposed to be Anthony Pettis.

How much won my Korean zombie shirt by the way? Jose Aldo versus Korean zombie. Anyway, so I spoke to him right before and then I had to sit on the plane for 10 hours with this and I'm a very, I'm a neurotic Jew. There's no more of a neurotic person in the world than me in my family. I'm just like, it's a problem. So I had to sit on the plane for 10 hours thinking about this, replaying the conversation, all this stuff. He was in in Brazil, so I didn't get a chance to talk to him.

Saw him, well actually, I actually, I mustered up the testicular fortitude, mankind. Nice to give him a call. The rest are not all of mankind. That's the thing. Must make that distinction. That was a make-up. I gave him a call the next week, like Tuesday or Wednesday and he picked up which he very

rarely ever picks up when you call him. I always text him and he's very good at getting back to the text and another remarkable thing about him. And I was like, hey, I just want to make sure we're all good, clear of the air. And I believe in music. What are you talking about? And I was like, you remember last week, where you were talking, I was like, I forgot about that the next day. He would have never remembered this so it's just part of part of

dealing with a guy like that right can we have Dan's number no so we are all good grab his phone though I'll tell you I'll honestly tell you what I said on the m.a. hour when all this happened right before my time is done before I leave the sport of M.A. I will explain what happened. But the most important thing is, I still work for the UFC tonight shows. I still work on Fox Sports, I'm still doing. Now, one of the things is that a lot of people don't know, I don't like talking about my personal life. So, my son, my wife was like nine months pregnant at the time.

I didn't tell anyone that she was pregnant. And I was taking this time off. I should be in Dallas right now, right? For USC 171, I'm not here because I'm taking some time off to be with my son, my family, my other son. I'm returning in Orlando. All this coincided at the same time where these rumors came out of nowhere, thinking that I was taking off these shows.

This was already all in place, but I didn't want to say it because my son was going to be born in two weeks and I'm very superstitious. I don't like to talk about these things. You understand? Yes. Before my time is done, I will explain the entire story, but that's cool. On this show.

You'll come back on this show. I'll come back on this show before my time is done. So in two weeks, you're coming back. Yeah. I'm done. He's saying this like he's gonna retire in 10 years. Is this guy's gonna be doing this for another 50 years. Yeah, that's what he's saying.

You guys are saying I'm never telling you. Yeah, that's cool. No, I'm still. I'm still. Something did. Nothing happened, but something happened. It's it's you'll tell me someday. This thing was blown so way out of proportion. It's unbelievable. And it all coincided with the sun. And uh, okay. I didn't miss any shows that I was supposed to be at or anything like that. It was so serious. I was actually, I was, I would, I don't know if I would watch, I don't know if you got,

not to kiss your ass. One of the reasons that I told you this, one of the reasons I watch UFC is because of you. It's just like when I watch WWE, the announcers, there's certain guys that I love when they're there and I watch it, you know, and you're one of those guys that I'm waiting for them to go to you Thank you and you can tell they are too, you know you can tell you're talking about the post-photos I'm talking about you you have see tonight I'm talking about Fox and live at the event too and after you're one of those guys that you're you are part of UFC Whether they like it or not not I'm not I'm not saying Fox

I'm saying the UFC the brand you a part of that just like Dana is I don't know Absolutely, apps a fucking I will say I you would look right somewhere else I don't think I can make it anywhere else I think this sport is is very unique in that sense like if I went to do NBA I think I would get you know well You wouldn't make it even like if they were like, if you weren't with UFC and you want to, I wouldn't, if I went to like Bellator, but I think, but you would add value to Bellator. Like if you went there, you would make the distinction. I don't work for the UFC. I work for the broadcast partner of the UFC. So those lines get blurred,

I can understand that, but it's no different than an ESPN reporter covering your part of it. You're part of it. Sure. And I'm happy to be a part of it. When you think of you, you think you're a CEO. I'm happy to be a part of it. Why would it that I want to be associated with the top dog, right? I mean, I can't connect with Erie Lamas.

We're like ambassadors for the sport. Yeah. No, you're not. He's trying to carry out. Thanks, Erie. Listen, what I'm saying now my next question what's the big news honestly i don't know i have i and somebody please go to joe rogan's think yet what a joe rogan joe you know what for them son of a bitch that asked the hard

questions i got nothing you will fucking avoid the hard questions well that's why i like to ask the questions who wants to answer the hard questions easier to ask them and get out of the way i i like my job being in and out. That's, here's one thing I hate about certain podcasts. I won't mention and- I'm here for fishing. No, people, some people, everyone thinks that I take the job as an interviewer very seriously.

I hate long questions. Yeah. Shut up. Ask, get in. I'm trying to make sure. No, get in, get out. Sometimes people wanna hear themselves talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk talk people like machitas fighting style in and out. So listen, some people call it born. OK, but I want to ask you some easy questions that you some quick questions. Favorite interview of all time.

This one. Yes. It's I almost feel weird answering the quote. I hate to top top top three. How's that? Some that come to mind are obviously was very memorable when Use the word memorable instead of favorite very very corporate of you.

No, it's very memorable when I interview Dana when they when they bought strike force. Really? That was a big one. I broke that news. Yeah, that was that was a bomb shell that no one saw coming. Yeah, one that is actually and I'd love to get your thoughts on this sir. One of the interviews that is being brought up these days is when I interviewed the undertaker after Brock Lesnar and lost to Kane Velasquez, and then they crossed paths. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now they're wrestling each other. You don't know about this.

What? They said he's like, do you want to go? Yeah, you know, that's one of the things. You want to go, you want to go? I can't hear, I can't. That's one of the main events of Brock Lesnar. You have to see what you have to see, 121 Brock Lesnar. I remember that. Brock Lesnar, at the end, when have see what you have see one twenty one broccoli I remember that broccoli

I didn't want to walk by because you want to do it you want to do it You're good so so I had no idea what was going on I'm interviewing the undertaker cage side right and they haven't you know met since they haven't crossed past people Didn't know was it real was a no what the hell and now they're they're gonna be a WrestleMania wrestling each other So I would like to suggest, I would like to offer, I don't know about free of charge, but I would just like to offer, put the offer out there to WWE to use this interview. Yeah. To help sell that fight.

Yeah, don't need, you have a kid, you need the money. Yeah, you were great too, because you'd stop whatever question you were asking and you went right to that question. At first I was like, what the, they're very well made, because they, they're really honest about his MMA and all that they He was out of character and some people oh it's so cool Brock is like the fucking best because like he wears a Jimmy John shirt like Everyone that he gets that has sponsored exact every other wrestler which makes no sense to me like they have their own

Merch which is that if you're a comic in you wore your own shirt My mom I gave him so many that was the last time I was on the show before today it was because he wore his own hat and I said dude I can't even look at you Oh it's sad yeah yeah but here's you do you think though that he's the only guy that can do that he's a very rare breed I don't think that the McMahon's gonna let no no no no no he's the only one but it adds so much to his character you know it's amazing about that story I was sitting in back of where dana white and lorenzo and those guys said and then there are the celebrities where people of your stature more important i'm not sure about these guys but i think you are you comparing robber to the undertaker the phenom himself uh... he had worse seats than me

uh... uh... brock you usually they'll walk out a certain way he went the opposite way and if you watch that interview again, you see Undertaker's eyes kind of lock with his eyes. And from what I understand, Undertaker was planning on doing some kind of scene at the press conference because Vince had sent them. And I just so happy to be there with a camera,

Brock recognizes this after getting his ass kicked by Kane Velasquez and then the magic happens and there's like five million views, Bill Simmons is tweeting about it. It was a very bizarre scene. That was amazing. They wanted to fight each other right there. Or did they?

Or did they? I think they did because they looked at each other and even Brock when he lost, he had to look at his other. They're outfucking fight you right now. Well that's the thing. Some people think it's real, some don't. Other ones that come to mind. One that I really liked, well I did all those like walk and talk interviews.

I don't know if you've seen, I was with Rampage in Japan. Yeah, that was a great one. That was a lot of fun. Used to make funny issues. And Rampage here in New York. All the ones with Dana are always great because he's so honest and open. One that I'll always remember is way back when I was working for MMA rated, I interviewed Gina Carano and the night before a video was posted and people were shitting on me. They were saying like saying like oh this guy's so awkward. He's horrible It's like really at the beginning and I did a little little awkward thing with her and she was just like I just be it she just gave me a lot of confidence on there forget like she kind of just said like be yourself because I was trying too hard

I think and people saw it right through that and I was I was very nervous and and because I was doubting myself and she gave me that confidence So that's one that I was remember before she fought on CBS for Elite XC. I would literally drag my wife out of bag and throw her on the lawn for Gina Karano. Literally, she'd all wake up on the lawn like what happened? And I'd be like now get out and I'd put my armor on Gina. Gina is one of the hottest women. Remember when the towel fell off? Do you remember that? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no if they ever do hate you, it's probably because you look like the internet. Like that's the thing. Well, I think a lot of people are like,

why is that guy? Yeah, why is that guy doing that? That's at the beginning, it was like, who, you know, people still think, like when this thing happened, when people thought it was demise, my demise. Yeah. And I love that.

And I discussed that on my shows. It was so amazing how so many people came out of the woodwork to dance on my grave. He's done, he's done. They were celebrating my demise. Yeah, yeah, there were tons of way more, way, way more that were supportive. But it was just amazing that the jealousy that people had thinking that look, the UFC gave me this access. Now they're taking it away in their mind. That's what they thought happened. The UFC didn't give me anything. I just told you, the UFC used to deny

my credentials. They used to apply all the time. They actually took away my credentials when I was working for Versus.com. The broadcast partner of WEC, they took deny my credentials, they used to apply all the time. They actually took away my credentials when I was working for Versus.com. The broadcast partner of WEC, they took away my credentials. It has not been a very easy road and it's still a rocky road to this day. You should never have an insetuous relationship with the people that you cover. It shouldn't be that way if you're taking yourself seriously. I think you probably take a lot of shit for that specifically from the fans. People just think that they open the door and say, here here come talk to everyone. It's not like that. That's

what that's what sets you apart from all the other guys is because they are they do fit into what they want them to fit in. You don't you know your ties, your sneakers, your look, and your your your your questions are way different. Your segments are way different than any other part of the show. Even on UFC tonight, it's when your part of the show is your part of the show. You also have an icy cold stare

that I think scares people in the coming days. I don't realize how difficult it is to. People feel like it's very, it's like, you just sit there and ask questions, I think even on a podcast forum like this, or if they actually listen to your show, you guys, like you're very well researched. Like, you know your stuff and you're a good analyst of it.

Did you see when Mayhem, that I thought might have been the most interesting and it was weird. I mean, it was so uncomfortable. I just found my glove, my UFC glove signed by Miller Mayhem. And I was like, oh, he's a shit. He melted, I mean, Mayhem Miller, sorry. I have melted down, I'm not weird.

He, I hate when people, when you fuck up and people correct you, like, you know what I meant. Yeah, I wasn't like I mean, may have me. Sorry. I have no doubt. But he, he, I hate when people, when you fuck up and people correct you, like, you know what I meant. Yeah. Wasn't like I said, wasn't like I said. No, my hand was when my dad got some kid in my mom. You guys are all like, I'm just gonna say this boss. I was trying to be part of the, I'm kidding.

I'm letting my hair down. I'm not in corporate. Look at those, you're letting your curls down. Yeah, exactly. I, I, I, I, I, they have Miller follows me on Twitter. Wow. Like, it's a lot of my jokes. Yeah, but he, he, uh, this guy, he was the motherfucker for a while.

It was a little weird because he had just been arrested for being naked in the church. So that was his first interview. And it just so happened to coincide with, um, here comes the boom coming out. Yeah. So he comes on the show flies from LA doesn't tell me he's doing this, flies from LA to New York, in character, as this bit character. Did you see the movie? He's like in it for like two seconds. Yeah, he's a fighter, lucky Patrick, but they never really, he isn't speaker anything like that.

And the whole time he gets there, and you know, you could look in his eyes and he didn't see him all there, but he never went out of character. He never said like, okay, I'm gonna do this. He was playing that guy that Boston, whatever he was, the whole time. And then he's like, were you scared? I wasn't scared because I knew deep down that he wouldn't do anything.

I was scared watching it. You were? I was scared watching it. My mom was flipping out. I was scared because I was like, this guy is gonna hurt this guy. If Ariel says the wrong thing, I kept calling him Mayhem,

because it was interesting, right? That's a Jim Romo moment right there. Yeah, we created it. Except he got the name, it is his name. I should have called him Jason. Then the walk through the park, we could give you after. We mended defenses, what did you think of that?

I thought it was good. It was, I don't know, dude, it really, I'm a huge fan of his, and I love bully beat down. I thought it was good. It was um, I don't know dude It really I'm a huge fan of his and I love bully beat down. I thought I love that show I thought it was a great show. I thought he was fucking perfect on it He was the night in shining armor. He looked out for the movie finally fucking Self it was terrible And then one of the worst shows in ever since my time they they came my gym one time and asked people in the gym Want to be bullies? Yeah, it's retarded., there was one of the worst shows was bad for the sport

I thought it was one of the only moments I bonded with my step that don't you fucking take that away from me Guys guys guys settle that let's just that I'll get all fuck like that like that that contrived bullshit And then it wasn't even really MMA they did a grappling round. Oh, look dude. I just listen We could we could sit here and take apart fucking everything. I like the show. I know Character he was a great character and he was also one of the few I grew with you I didn't like the show, but I say this He was one of the few guys outside of the UFC outside of UFC who actually made a name for you know like you have Fun UFC for a little bit for very very short time cup of coffee and he was in Japan

He was a huge star. You know, he was also dude. He fits the archetypical crazy hair painted nails He looks like that the what the archetypical archetypical wow Did you study today for real? I really did this is This is very proud of you fucking I'm fucking colored hair. Very ugly. Typical today. Crazy nails. So it was even of the source in the rubble of one of the buildings. That explode, guys. Next door to my building.

I heard before, and you're not concerned about this at all. I mean, well, no, my building is fucking evacuated. I'm up there. Where's your family? Oh, shit. They're at a friend's house right now. Really? Yeah. So, but that's why somebody like

Somebody like Jason, but what I'm talking about me and fuck my family such a heavy thing to just brush off You know could have been us We don't talk because I came home and my girlfriend was watching fully beat down Ariel literally is not doing shows like not is just, he's just to stay with his family. I'll fucking build and collapse. I'll foot away from your apartment. And you're like, I don't know, she's still my friend, so I was like, whatever, anyways,

back to Mayhem, fucking Miller. Who games? No, the point is though, it was very easy to sell that look to America. Oh, and here's about Casa de Gomez. And the truth is, if you said, who is this guy, people would still go, he's a UFC fighter. You're such a see, while he was in strike force, while he was in Japan. I think that happened to him was he was 31, he was injured and he got released from the UFC.

And I don't think he came to terms with that. I think though, too, that the fighters in the game became better. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they were, he had been in a lot of fights. He had been around the block. He's been in a lot of fights, but had been around the block. He's been a lot of fights But I think though I mean I might be wrong I'm naive like I said I'm the I'm the least schooled in here But I think that that group of guys fought this way and the guys that came up underneath him that he was gonna have to fight Fought trained a different way they don't fight her But he's not a super athlete like all these guys are also your mayhem Miller mayhem Miller

You're 31 you've just been released from the top organization that you're working your way to get back in what do you do? You need knee surgery these guys face these these these Life lives after fighting. What do you do? I don't know. It's sad. What honestly? What do you do? Do not get naked and go into a church. That's I would say what I wouldn't do It's a problem. it's one of the biggest problems in our sport right now that there's no i want to say that the problem is that there's no union or anything like that but there's nothing

there's nothing taking care of the fighters in the sense that there's some guys who you know like force grip and mad he's they'll have jobs with ufc and rightfully so they deserve it they help put the ufc on the map but if you're a guy who dedicated your entire life and you're just kind of a mid-tier fighter, you never won, you can't do much afterwards, what do you do, you open a gym? Has anybody figured that out? Is it opening a gym?

Is it opening a gym and training and becoming that, the Greg Jackson? It's possible, but not everyone's a good coach. But what is it for these fighters? Do you think it's gonna unionize? Do you think they're gonna have to do something? Because you're calling a league, if everyone's a good coach but what what is it for these fighters do you think it's gonna unionize do you think they're gonna have to do something because you're calling a league if it's a league this is gonna be a union well that's the thing i don't think it's a league i think it's it's it's a it's a essentially a team owned by some owners is just a massive roster that's

really what it is but i think there is still that room if they want to unionize i don't think they will unionize because look at UFC 151. Did you see one fighter stick up for John Jones? There wasn't one. There wasn't one fighter who was saying no. There was a couple guys that got it back a little bit on the internet. I'll go back. Maybe guys who are outside of UFC, but you didn't see George St. Pierre. You didn't see guys with clout. Yeah, and then one. Come out and say, you know what, if I was in that position, I would do the same thing. They just stayed away from that topic. The problem is that, you know, no one wants to,

the top guys doesn't want to, why should John Jones stick his neck out? That's what people say. Stick his neck out for the guys making 10 and 10 at the bottom. We, I mean, we kind of touch on this on our show. But the Gilbert Melendez thing, by the way, that was a big deal, and that got people very excited. That got people there. That was really huge. That was really huge in seeing that. Because now excited huge that got a big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big big the consumer than competition. That situation is where the rare situations where everyone came out looking good.

Gilbert comes out looking good because he tested the waters and he got himself the deal that some fighters envy. The UFC comes out looking good because they re-signed Gwarmlanda's and he deserves to be there. Belator who's had this amazing stretch of bad press comes out looking good because now they have provided an outlet for these fighters. And guys, I can't tell you how many texts I got from big name fighters, people saying,

what's going on with this good, how much is he getting? What the, this is so great, this is exciting. All of a sudden they're like, wow, I can actually test the market like any pro athlete can, near free agent and see what I can get. Why not, they should be able to do that. They should.

And through this, I think that the Bellator will start getting really good fighters. That the UFC is cutting pay, right? I mean, they've been cutting. Last year they cut some guys, but this year they've added so many shows. But they're cutting people's pay. I heard.

Who are you hearing this from? From Dan and White. Really? I'll call them right now. On the record or off the record? Oh, well, now you just broke it. But on A record. He wrote it on a record. But if I had a record on the record or off the record. Oh, well now you just broke but on a record I he wrote it on a record, but if I had a record it was a Steve Martin record

I didn't want anything on it, but he signed he's wrote on it that on the record and I took the record I had to watch the record because my wife bought me that for my birthday so I put the record back up on the wall But on the record he told me that but it was it's off the record now. So it's on the record and off the record I'll keep going with this guys. It's a one of you I love you fuck out. That's my favorite thing of the show so far. I don't know if they're cutting pay I can't believe you won't fucking give me anything about what anything I'm here. You keep telling me you're not corporate and you didn't want to say my favorite dude I had a wee ass a memorable give us a dude. I had we are say memorable give us a

We don't have a favor give us something give us something fucking Break a new story right now on this show give us something for the why can't we do fans? Lewis Gomez lose this chance to be MMA for You've been you've been nominated four years in a row not not nominated one. Oh, would you see that finger go up? Holy shit. She's a Melondria, yeah. That was good. I write my name in the ballots. That is a big category.

If you want to say it was not, it's like I've I said, you auditioned for Tourism, and that's true. So, I mean, is that crazy? Do you, I mean, you must be so proud of yourself. That's cool. I mean, it's voted by the fans, which is pretty cool.

You were a guy that didn't get's a minute yet. They denied you passes. Yeah, right? Here you are you gave yourself six months and here you are four years in a row you won I can't believe like first of all you can't be humble when I said it the wrong way you went what nominated You almost jumped across the Facts or facts. Yeah, you are. What's the exact title again? Yeah, yeah. Journalist of the year.

Journalist of the year. I have a trophy. It's crazy. Does Karen get mad at you? Do you care? Are you guys friends? He does not like Karen Pr for colleagues for colleagues i don't have said again honestly i don't have many friends period and uh... i don't have

many friends i think one of the we think we're talking about fighters yeah i would love to see more camaraderie and mma media i think mma if you look at every other sport you have um... the baseball writers association association of America you have football basketball all these guys have Have they they band together you were mentioning the shirt dog thing earlier. I'd like to see MMA media band together more Right, well, I'll tell you something one thing those people dancing on my grave That was talking about earlier a lot of it came from MMA media Well, I from New York from your co-workers well i would call co-workers people i work with a worker's colleagues i really called you do you think sure because i

always did feel like i thought the ufc was wrong for that in that period when they wouldn't credential a short dog but as a guy who was a hardcore fan back in the day and loved short of the only the only the short of the one dude from sure dog i thought no it was it for a long time it was no for a long time was the entire site so okay it look they did if you like if you're making that camaraderie point They do kind of have to share in part of the blame too. I mean they made themselves an anti-UFC site They were pro pride on every level They it was to the point where they were so biased you were kind of like they were so harsh on Dana White on some of their stuff

I mean like is so so you do almost Something happened behind the scenes there with the business dealings that I really, it was before my time. So I don't really know, but, you know, an example, like let's say something, a lot of people have this misconception that, you know, if you say something negative about the UFC, they'll yank your credentials.

And it's really not the truth. They think back to the shirt dog thing that happened, but that was like a business dealing that went wrong. So who knows? Cage potato was because they put out the play they put out pirated pictures from Ariani. Was it Ariani? Yeah. But for the most part, let's just say that did happen. Like let's say Cage potato was this reputable site that needed to be there, blah, blah. The media should stick up for each other. They should say that this is not something that should have, you know what I mean?

But I feel like in our sport, if that happened, people would just go along with their daily routine. No, I completely agree with you, but I was just, I also think on the other side, it would get like Josh Grocer, I thought it was just like incredible, but I mean, it would get to,

and he's been demonstrably proven wrong. He just said pride guys would come in and wipe out the UFC guys I mean, he said every he said Vanderlei would destroy chocolate. Oh, he said that's a favorite. Yeah, that's a opinion and it didn't happen It seemed like he always wanted to come in and they all got fucking croak up guard kicked with a croak We talked about this as well. I mean, I tell you they have a lot of you just did to rub me with your fat hand I was This isn't hammer fisting you fuck. well. I mean I tell you they have a lot of you to rub me with your fat hand I was I'll rent you for this isn't hammer fisting you fuck Sorry, I apologize Ariel no problem. All right one of my colleagues as you said

What's an end to her? An asshole right what he is we are fighting today. We had a nice nice long one this morning So when now I lost my rent so now you go you're're saying that the pride guys. Yeah, they none of them Not of them really came in and did anything who did? Well, that page won the title. We're gonna pay wasn't but he fucking lost it real fast. I want it little nugs looking great right now show gun won the title. They're gonna lost when he came in. He lost the forest.

No, he had to hit a he had mixed results, but he did win the title. He only but he wins and then he loses then he wins and he wins and he would say they had mixed results And I would say that that you know the heavy weights came in and I think in pride that that division was genuinely the strongest division also who you call a pride guy Anderson silver was a pride right at a pretty good run. But it's it's I think they're talking about those guys like after the purchase and then they came over like these and I was excited to see all these pride guys I was excited to see all these guys come and it was kind of anticlimactic. And I think that they, they fought like Vandale

and then show them they found their way to be relevant in the UFC now. But I think UFC fighters, at the time were just a different breed and there was different rules and the ring was different and a lot of stuff was different. That's probably some of that's morale too.

You're on top in this one place but then now you're just a part of a bigger machine. Well, you bring up a great point stuff was different. That's probably some of that's morale too. You're on top in this one place, but then now you're just a part of a bigger machine. Well, you bring up a great point about the cage. I won't say that's the entire reason for some of their failures, but Crocup always said he always felt uncomfortable in the cage and some of them didn't even train in cages. It's a different thing, you get pushed up

in a different cage field. They would actually take you and move you out to the center. Also, let's not forget different rules. Yeah. Soccer takes all the way. I love the cards. I love the panel. Yeah, they would actually take you and move you out to the also, let's not forget different rules. Yeah, you know, soccer I think I love the cards. I love the panel. I'm gonna say as far as what you can do in the actual fight.

A soccer kick killer. Can you imagine getting soccer kicked? I hate that. I hate soccer kicks. I don't think they should. Yeah, I think elbows elbows on the ground should be legal too. Really? I do, man.

Oh my, that's what I'm like. What happened to John Jones elbows? People get sliced open and it ends a fight for maturely How often is that never happen? People say that but yeah, the fights get stopped We just saw who just had their fucking head split up I don't know you got a you got a month ago. There's a huge Yeah, I saw it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen that often is what we're saying it used to saying that it happened so much

That we should get not even for the devil hands out of my face even to forget the fight being stopped You have guys that I happened so much that we should get even for you. It devils hands out of my face even if I forget the fight being stopped. You have guys that I use devil hands to get it. Nick Diaz who has a fucking pound of scar tissue over his eyes because he's getting elbowed in the face a bunch. He takes a bunch of shots. It just seems like unnecessarily violent and that's not what you said. You said that it happens too much. It doesn't.

I think elbows on the ground are fine. No people are getting cut all the time from elbows. Yeah, but that's a lot of time stops. A lot of times when the guys are being cut, it's from an elbow, even if the fight doesn't stop, it seems unnecessary. That's what you said. You said when they stop, they stop the fight because of elbow. But if you just, if they don't stop the fight and you just bloody someone up and now they can't see good, great. You landed an elbow now they can't say that. So when the term of the move is called

soccer kick, it's terrible. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's called soccer kick, it's terrible. It's terrible, right? Let me get to this because we have to wrap up. Don't bring soccer into a real sport. Yeah, that's it. I forgot about my sleeping belt. It's like you've been killing for all day. Yeah, like all day you've been killing. You've been talking to him for the whole time.

I want to ask, what's up with Bob Sap? Bob Sap, that's a good question. It's a great question. You know, avoid this one? No, no. Will he fight for a title? You want to tell me when you give up your career? I don't like the fact that I've been now painted

with this brush of avoiding questions. I'm, listen, we're busting Bob Sap. Bob Sap, I think he's lost, certainly in my eyes. I actually really enjoyed watching Bob Sap. Like back in the day, you had this massive guy from where I grew up. Yeah, those fights were great. Crocop and K1 and all that stuff

And then all of a sudden he started, I might be needing fixing fights throwing fights Really? He's losing in 10 seconds, come on who's he losing to? What other explanation? I've asked him this question on the show and then he starts telling me these things about head injury and all that That's fine, but just admit what you're doing. You're going around the world. You're collecting paychecks and You're just throwing fights. Yeah, you don't want to get hit, you don't want to get hit. Yeah, do nobody wants to get hit.

He's losing in 10 seconds, the guys who you would have cramed. Yeah, but is it? But is it now legacy? It's been tarnished. And then he goes on his Twitter rents. I don't know what he's talking about. He's talking about owning his house and his credit card and that I have dead.

I don't know what he's saying. The guy's an entertainer, he's an actor. So I know part of it is pro wrestling. Yeah, isn't that big? It's a poor now in Japan. Isn't that what some fighters some fighters are actually doing Pro wrestling now in Japan. There was always It's always kind of blended together. I mean like you know like And okay, that was like the

Foundations of Japanese MMA in Tony and Okia. It's a famous story. Where who do you smack in the face? After they're like their first win in MMA? Was it Machita? Yeah, it was Machita. Machita won on under Antonio and Okia. Well, he does that to everyone. That's his thing where he's slacking. That's where you're accepted.

He's smacked you in the fucking face, dude. Antonio and Okia's a fame, you know, fl- He fought Muhammad. I'm gonna start doing this on this podcast. I'm gonna crack you right at the end of the show. You're gonna step you under the likeness. But dude, Antonio andogu was one of the first guys that fought an MMA fight in general. That was the one against Muhammad Ali, where he wouldn't get up. He just kept on turtle walking toward him and they fought to a draw. It was like a 25 minute fight or something.

Crazy thing about that judo Jean Lebel, who you know, Ron de Rousin, he was actually the referee of that. I did not know that. So you go. I broke something for you. It just happened 40 years ago But he's going to Bulgaria. He's going to Croatia. He's going to Saudi Arabia and these fights By the way, Ariel you look like you're from all three of those countries. That's true That is very true. I'm not looking to you. I've ever seen him. I like well Lepanon Egypt. Yeah. Who Ariel doesn't look Jewish? Not at all. I got the nose, but it's funny when I always help people.

That's the thing. Let your nickname. Yeah, but I always help you. Oh, my mom's from Levin on my dad's from Egypt. And then they're like, oh, great. You know, what do you think of Palestine? What do you think of anything else? But I'm Jewish.

They don't get that. And then they just go, whoa. So Bob, so Bob Sap and you are don't like each other. I have no problem. But he doesn't like you. He's like he extended an invitation to come back and the fences. Yeah, he's afraid you are don't like each other. I have no problem. I actually, he doesn't like you. He doesn't like you. He's really extended an invitation to come back and the fences. Yeah, he's afraid you're going to knock him out.

The fact that I'm even, like the fact that you're even asking me a question about Bob Sap, that is surreal to me. Like that goes back to the guy who was just trying to make it. The fact that Bob Sap even knows who I am is still very surreal to me. That being said, he's completely tarnished his legacy. He's turned himself into a prostitute. I have no respect for him. I wish he would just come close.

Can I ask you a question though? Yeah. Okay. Here's a guy who's not doing it here. He's doing it in the middle of nowhere. Sure. He's doing it in Bulgaria. He's doing this guy can't fight anymore.

He can't make a living. You're making a mockery of the sport. All right, hang on one second. Let me just finish. Let me just be a mockery of the sport. All right, hang on a second. Let me just finish. Let me just, let me just be devil's advocate for the offset. He can't make a living anymore. He's not doing it.

He's taking these fights. And yeah, he's, okay, so he's giving up in 10 seconds. But he's not doing it here. He's not trying to do it in the main event. He's not trying to do it for real. Well, cause no one would hire him to do that. You don't think he would do it here if he could. You don't think Dan and White would hire him? No. Why? He's on like a 15 fight

losing streak. I think he might have sprinkled one in there. I think he won. He won? Yeah. Against glass, Joe. How big is that? Could he even fight? No, he could even make 265. That would be a mockery. How big is he? Like 300 per cat. I always do. He's 85, something like that. Why would someone. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass.

He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass.

He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He's a jackass. He was a pro wrestler. Yeah, and look how he But a lot of those fights over there are kind of weird fights. Don't you think what do you mean in Japan?

Like the fights that he's fighting and they're paying to see this Giant black American love that stuff. Yeah, they love it. I don't know. Well either. Oh, you mean like the freak show fights Yeah, like that you know hang nine Japanese girls off his arms, but don't you miss the The spectacle of Japan. Don't you miss like those kind of I miss pride It was this I miss the trophy the open weight ground pre where you have like you know You have like Mark Coleman fighting Vanderlei Silva. I think it's all it's a very interesting to just point out that pride is still to this day The only other organization besides the UFC that ever successfully did MMA They didn't close for market failure reasons and they closed for like, you know, this year, but they didn't do it successfully I got a breaking news. No, I

Is your wife is trying to get a hold of you is she really? Yeah, I believe so is that her phone number? I can't imagine why Bill a building fell Is that her oh yeah, it is No, I turn my phone off on why can't I believe's i'll lose his mind on me if i have my phone on no listen please why do you the victim again i'm not the victim i just i was a victim earlier than able to build in collapse around me with the tech say let's figure it out the tech said i'm trying to is will is still with you i'm trying to get a hold of them because of fucking building collapse next door

yeah that's what he said another building why am i that would stop making you look at i just gave you the text you don't have your phone on in a podcast. That's it. He was respecting the product. The podcast process. That's not my fault that you should. Are you mad at that? Are you mad at him? No, he's mad at me because I respected the podcast process. No, I'm mad that you fucking think you're you're you're you're you're you're making me a villain out of respecting the fuck you never you can never win with you. Listen, I'ma make you a villain. That fucking go-tay is making you a villain.

I can't stand him. I, you know, I was going to... It's like Dana White from a whole new reality. We're fudges more delicious. I was gonna do a one-on-one with you. And I was browning things out of steroids in this universe. I was gonna do a one, just me and you.. And I was browning instead of steroids in this universe. I was gonna do a one, just me and you. It would have just turned into him interviewing you the entire time.

Bobby's crying. I don't know. I love to do. I got rappers, dick, dick. Ultimate fudge, chugging. I can't stand. I'm getting a pounding on my own fucking shell. You're lucky my blood sugar's low, you cock suckers.

All right, so here's the deal. You're still working for Fox, you're still working for MMA fighting, you're still in the business. Still in the business. What's your next thing? What do you want to do? I want to reinvent myself a little bit. Really?

Yeah. What do you want to do? That's what I'm saying. I'm telling you when my time is done. I'll let you know that could be next week There's son of a bitch is got son of a bitch It's got to see him punk said to you and then he was gone right? You follow me on Twitter? Yeah, you do did you see my little shout out to see him punk? I did miss that you miss it. I did. I saw it. What was it? I forget I'm not gonna memorize that. I can't memorize your fucking clothes. I can't. Well, you know, you have a guest that comes on. You were waiting to hit me with the I know I know I knew I was like, why does he want me on the show now? No, no, no, that's not why I swear to God. Can I be honest with

your research? Can I be honest with you? Honestly, I did not want you because I wanted you on the show before this before that shit happened. You were supposed to be on the show. Absolutely. And I asked me, do I asked you supposed to be on before remember when I know way before I said dude I want you on my show and we tried we never actually never had a fucking kid all this shit and then I moved and all the fuck you I think in two weeks ago yeah will your second kid you know and you don't it was three weeks ago all right you ago That was a pro wrestling movie just did there you I swear to God I did not I did not I got to have them on the show look I absolutely not but I was definitely gonna ask you what the hell happened

Sure sure, but now I know now I know punk and I I know are gonna show up somewhere Yeah, you guys gonna show up somewhere and you're gonna be big news. Oh my wife. That's awesome hang on Yeah, you guys are gonna show up somewhere and you're gonna be big news. Oh my wife. That's awesome. Hang on You said you were serious. We loved it for a second there, right? I'm doing a podcast. I'm with this is we're we're wrapping it up right now. Are you all right? Okay Shut up. You don't shut that kid up. What I tell you? She knows that's nice. She knows. I'll be I'll be I swear to God. No, I'm do you still how's Jim Burry?

Good was a good today. Yeah, Jim. I'm going to be home. I'm going to be home shown. What the fuck? What are you doing? Barriss in me in front of my guests. House. All right. All right. Goodbye. I love you. Well, she didn't say back. I taught her not to. Okay. Makes sense. Um, uh, yeah, I, I, when I hear him, I get fired. I, I, I, I, I, I was hard to leave.

Today was really hard to live. Boy, girl. Boy, Maximus. Maximus. What's your kid's name? I have one name Oliver. Yes. And one name Walter. Walter.

Yeah. That's a cool name. What do you think? I like Walter. The family was an intuit. But you know what? I was always a big fan of Walter Cronkite. Remember him?

Are you trying to raise chimney sweeps? Walter. Walter. Is it Walter Cronkite the Howard Cousel of Notsports? No. That's Walter. Is it Walter Cronkite, the Howard Cosell of Notsports? No. That's what. Wait, I don't get the joke here. I don't get the joke.

Because Oliver Twist. Oliver and Walter were in old time. But he's so stupid, he doesn't know that they were pick pockets. Chimney sweeps were in Mary Poppins. Oh. Whatever. Because they're porting the game. They're porting the game.

You read a book and they're not porting the game. They're porting the game. They're porting the game. They're porting the game. They're porting the game. They're porting the game. Whatever because it's like orderly. You read a book in there not Or the only thing that I'll ever to a student that's whether the my mind went but chimney sweeps Which is because they're old-timey British names, right? Don't what's your what's your son's name James James James Sydney basic Which is also I think an old-timey. Yeah, British thing, but he's gonna be a chimney sweep All right, so here's a deal we got We got nothing out of you. What? We got nothing out of you. What time is it?

It's, I've never been on a show longer. It's, it's bat time right now. We got a lot, we didn't get the, we didn't get the thing out of you, but you will come back and announce it. Absolutely. I want to come back before I had a blast. Really?

Are you come back on? All right, next time. I'll be here for a week. Not, really yeah, are you come back on all next time? What if you showed up every week Slick become this show Ariel what what what the fuck? No, thank you for coming on brother. I've seriously wanted you on for a long time everybody was excited That's why I wanted to put these guys on. Thank you. We're all big fans of the sport. We're all big fans of you.

And what you do. A colleague. But I don't like that. We never even finished that. Will he, are you gonna be an M.A. journalist? Well, tell him what you're doing. Journalists, well, what I do now, I'm a comic. If there's any writing involved, no.

But if there's no... Motherfucker, I've been published by Fox News. Let's hear it. Jesus Christ, can I make a joke without you jumping down my serious man? Hey, I can write Fox news latino he's this close to getting a sponsorship with Goyo products Spanish he's the only Spanish that I he doesn't not aspire this answer Parents know what I'm a huge fan obviously and you're fat Everyone who loses their parents can be Batman, all right. It's a huge dip after Batman.

I don't fucking wanna see Batman versus Superman. Fuck that move, man. Go ahead. Fucking asshole, you see the little respect I get here? I don't think I'm ever gonna find out. No, I wanna, I mean, I want to be- That's what you get to be- I wanna be ingrained in that world.

I'm currently co-hosting tap out radio every week on XM You are? Yeah, yeah, I just just joined the team last week officially and I do the podcast on this network Hammer fencing. So I want to I want to give like the fans the water is it's incredibly salty This is all that time what she cares Louis that he really got distracted by the water salty unbelievably salty Louis Lewis talks and you tap out on the radio Yeah, don't don't drink that yeah, I trust me But can we get him another water please? That's not so far. That was really bizarre really So yeah, do what I want to do is I just want to fucking can you get not that one you find it's fine

So you don't tap out radio. That's great. Seriously, what's the channel? Sports zone 92 over Thursday. But yeah, I mean, I think I come from the fans perspective and I think that I do, yeah. Yeah, yeah, dude, I'm not one of these, I'm not a fact guy. Why don't you come out with a funny-ish podcast about M&M? Look right there, that's my logo, the Hammer Fisting podcast.

Well, you, this is your show. That's my show. Well, now I will check it out. Well, you got to check it out, dude, you'll love it. Well, you want you to be on it sometime. That's my show. Well now I will check it out. Well you gotta check it out, dude. You'll love it. Well you want you to be on it sometime. Yeah, come on, dude. When did it come out?

It's me and it four years ago. We do it right here, four years ago. Yeah, in this studio, yeah. Why don't you ever reach out? Ah, you know, dude, I think I actually have. I think you worked my tweet, bro. That was your way of reaching out. What am I, I don't know what your fucking number, bro?

This guy has my number. He barely invited me here today. I would never do that to you. You get asked, you know. Yeah. Well, still, later, let me know. All right. I call the hammer fissing podcast.

I mean, can you blame me for not responding? Fair enough. Yeah, it's right under Glory Hall, hammer fissing, why do you so? And then you look at Lewis and you think it's just ham or fisting podcast. Can I get it on iTunes? Yeah, on iTunes. I'll just get that on. You give me the bandana. Yeah, no, no, we just, I mean, it's like, it's just ham or fisting podcasts. Can I get it on iTunes? Yeah, on iTunes.

I'll check it out. Ryan, you give me the bandana. Yeah, no, I think we just, I mean, it's like it's this. Yeah, you have guests. Yeah, I know you had Caesar, you said. Yeah, I mean, we should just get you. Oh, you had Jen. Jen's Paul was doing a monthly segment on the show now.

Cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, last week we had a job in a Vitas. Yeah, there's no bigger fan than this guy right here. As far as the sports goes, he's been supported for a while. And, you know, and he was as giddy as a girl when I told me you're coming on But I really I'm gonna let everybody go we're gonna wrap this up cuz my I gotta go see my kid and we all gonna Go see our kids except for Dave scopo and you I gotta go be one. Yeah, guys don't fuck for real, but um, I'm engaged. I fuck Not for real Z's. Oh leave leave it in. See what happens.

Fearless fucking is what I call that. It's called real love. Let it grow. That's my mother told me when I was trying to have a baby, just check it in and let go. Luckily, all my shirt, luckily every shirt I buy my kids can wear afterwards. So it kind of fits. Well, can we have that bandana i deserve it uh... anyways uh... aerial uh... thank you so much you check out area uh... what's the website i'm in the funny dot com

you see tonight and uh... twitter and then the uh... new the new job you're coming out almost got you uh... i'll find awood a viewer. He's just like, yeah, I'm gonna be on HP. Fuck me. It's me.

It's me and Susie Orman on the... It's me and Brian Gumball. And I'm taking over Brian Gumball. Shit, is that it? Oh! Yeah, like, do you imagine? That would be something. That'd be fucking something.

Yeah. If that's it, I swear I'm gonna make it. And Gina Carano's coming back. Yep, that's true, tomorrow. Right? She's coming back tomorrow. Is that real? She's gonna tweet that she's back tomorrow.

Are you fucking with me? Yes. The podcast ends in half for three weeks. God damn, I'm such a sucker. Really? I got him with the CM Punk thing, just a few minutes. Do you understand I could never do what you do because I'm just an asshole.

I get nervous and I'd shake. When me and Norton did interviews, we did interview at that day. Yeah. We was, it was, I saw some of them. We were holding up two microphones like Dix and people didn't know what to do. Like I, we were holding, two mics,

they were just looking like, what do I do, you fucking idiots? And we were just asking the dumb, so how does it feel? What do you feel what? Wor? I'm believe my worst worst thing I ever did before I let you go Brock lessen beat the fuck out of Frank Meer and Read who I love read Harris fucking greatest guy ever right him and Dana are so nice, right? He ushers us literally over the fucking railing through the back So we can go to the press conference and see we're sitting there as Brock walks by oh Him and Dana are so nice, right? He ushers us literally over the fucking railing through the back

so we can go to the press conference and see, we're sitting there as Brock walks by. I bow my head out of, because he's such an alpha male. Instinctually, me and Norton both bow our heads. Like, don't look him in the ass. I'm literally looking at the ground, because I am a fucking Omega.

Yeah. No, no. I'm literally looking at the ground because I am a fucking Omega Frank mirrors coming down his face looks like a hamburger, okay? He's coming like literally just sad He just got yelled at I'm I go I go good job Frank Breathe Harris looks at me like what the fuck did you just say to the guy? He just got his face pumbled in. And then Norman was like, you dummy. You know, tell the fucking guy who just got beaten good job. The fuck is wrong with you?

I had a cell, a bell tour with Kurt Pelligrino made his own, his only bell tour date fight. It was against a Petrici Pitbull, I believe it was. Say that again five times. Petrici Pitbull? Petrici Pitbull, I believe it was. Say that again five times. Petrici Pitbull? Petrici Pitbull? Oh, that's not true.

So, yeah, dude, I'm a Pellegrino fan as much as anybody. It's like, it's like, He's good. I love sparkling water too. Dude, my favorite, it's my new thing. I have it in my fridge. You can push sparkling. I have a soda stream.

It's up to me again on purpose. Pellegrino versus Perry. You try to end the show. I get what you're doing. I'm trying to end the show. I get what you're doing. I'm trying to end the show. I get it. So, uh, I, uh, you didn't get the Peligrino.

I didn't get it. It was that bad of a joke. No, no. I'm not going to be fucking blamed for not getting that shitty. I gotta let him go back to Brooklyn to buy records. I'm saying my last name. It's, the sun's going down. He can't use electricity.

Come on. He's gonna walk into a dark house. So dude he just got beat and it was my first time, I believe that was my first time actually at post fight press conference where I asked a question. Wow. My first time and just I had this on audio, I played it on the show. Like nervously the mic was a fun man, I went, Kurt, first of all I just want to say I love you.

Oh my gosh. Oh my god. I said, I just want to say I love you. Oh my gosh I said like as a reporter and then I love you. I don't I don't even have a fan. I can give a shit. Let's do for the car. Oh my god And then and then he just started punching his own ears What did you say? Can you please say it again? I saw my loved to say it again. I raised your hand. Kurt. I'm gonna pick you Let me pick you. All right. Good. Raise your hand Go man's hammer fisting podcast Kurt first of all for the first thing I want to say I love you. Why do you love me?

I don't I'm nervous as a microphone in my face. I've never done this before. What was your question though to follow it up? I don't know It was probably how does it feel? How does it feel to get knocked out by Petricky Pippball? He said I love you. Scott for real. That's funny. All right, so here we go. We're gonna end this show. I thought that was an impersonation of Scott. That's my impression of the impression they do of me. I found a poem that I wrote back in the day that I will be bringing on the next show.

Ah, you got it. And letting one of you read, yeah, it's a poem, a heartfelt poem that I wrote a long time ago. What are you doing? Well, because you read your poem back in the day and I told you that I had a poem too and you said when you find it, can we read it?

So you just kind of steal my steers? No, I'm not stealing it. I find, you know, I won't bring it in. No, just kind of stealing my steers? No, I'm not stealing it. I, fine, you know, I won't bring it in. No, I want you to bring it in. Oh, fuck you, I'm kidding, Bobby. I'm kidding. I won't bring it in. You don't wanna read it?

What do you always have to do this? Why do you, you did it, I said a poem and then you stopped. First of all, you just were able to fit in that WC shirt two day. Today's the day. I literally found the shirt. Oh, you know what? Or up, by the way, Bobby's on the way.

I go, let me wear the shirt. And then I put it on in my way, I'm, I'm, I, I, I. By the way, Bob is on the way. I go, I go, let me wear the shirt. And then I put it on to my way, but. Yeah. She sewed it onto you. It's lit up on one side. Anyways, I'm back motherfucker. You look good dude. I'll be there.

I'm the summer I'll be there. But Ariel, thanks so much for coming on. I really appreciate it. You amazing work. Good luck in the future. I hope you have it back on the show again. Absolutely. If you want to come on in next time, it't be you know all you you you just come on and hang Absolutely and have some fun and talk about what the fuck's going on

Dave Smith, what do you got? I actually I just started a new podcast Anyways, you on my network? No, I'm on a competing network. What's one? At stand-up. Yeah. Anyways. I'm checking out an I-2. Yeah, you get 9 million listeners all day already. Well, it's like a political comedy podcast though. It sounds thrilling.

It is. It's very fun. Check it out. It's called Pum Problem. A fucking wordy guy just talk. Who's on it with you? I have two co-hosts, two comics. I don't know if you know them, though.

They're younger guys. Who's it? It's a Jessica Sager and Mike Branketelli. Okay. Both younger guys. And it's a right wing or is it political? I mean, I'm like a libertarian so that very much colors like kind of the podcast But I like it to just be kind of like comedians like funny people. Can I tip? Can I give you a tip on podcasting? Sure I was at start talking to the mic Tip number one, use the mic. Listen. Who's late in the podcast together on that. Yeah, fuck it.

Well, if you don't like his views, you don't have to hear him anyway. That's why we wear headphones, jackass, so you can hear when you're not talking into the mic, and then when you're talking into the mic, and sometimes you talk too loud. You understand? All right.

I'm just helping you out. I appreciate it. What else? Anything else? Any shows coming up? Follow me on Twitter at Comic Dave Smith. I don't know always one of my favorites. Thanks coming on and so short notice I really appreciate it much for having me was really cool to get to meet you pleasure. Pleasure. Go. Me as you go on last To say the best buddy the best you know, I took it as a negative thing. Yeah, because you're I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wow

No butt after that. What oh my god. This is a moment scope. Oh, after that? What? Oh my God, this is a moment. Scuffle, what do you got? Follow me on Twitter, yes, and that. Big ass. Did you see Scuffle, can you please stand up? You have to show her, look, it just, you have, it is,

his butt is massive. It's Brooklyn big. He should be, there's something wrong. He's got the ass of him. Turn around. He's just got a black girl booty. It's Brooklyn big he should be it does something wrong the ass of a turn around Hey, he's just got a black girl booty, and we can't figure it out dude. We just don't get it Doesn't make sense look at turn straight Normal guy now turn around. I don't understand

We were staying up at the casino gig dude when scobo got into his box We were staying up at the casino gig dude when Skopo got into his box Help you just look over like is this I'm like getting a bone over this but don't get down guys Sit down, but don't break the chair Follow big-ass Skopo All right, and I'll be with Lewis Boom headlight, I'm opening Juggers what oh mate, and you know what sucks for both of you. You can't have Frank Pepe's pizza. Why not close down?

No, you're on no sugar no My fucking cheat there's gonna be that Sunday We'll be off that day. We'll be off that day. We'll just my cheat. Well, then I'm fucking coming out Come out dude. All right. Go ahead. What do you got at the Mike Lawrence is my Twitter Mike Lawrence comedy dot com My album sat a mantium and I'll be on at midnight March 25th on Comedy Sunday. He is fight dude you are fucking I love having you on the show man you are fucking funny And I remember when I first met you I was like I'm not gonna like this guy because of the way you look but then after that I fucking I know I'm kidding dude you're one of my favorites on the show please come back any time okay You know a big big one say six hours of podcasting

Get ready for Mike Lawrence by the way, no, I'm no, I'm the one who suggested him the first time Mike I met you at the member. I met you You met him over at the Yeah, the pit yeah, yeah, and I told you to come on the show the first time he was I look like the kind of guy you'd meet when you do an unpaid gig I really look like the kind of guy I'd meet at a pit yeah okay what's your call what is it oh shit you're brave I did no you should hit his face no I don't I'm not that bomb bandana I I you should have one on your show I'm I've been sitting here for three hours I picked that up you should have a comic that bombs on your show no I've been sitting here for three hours. I picked that up. You should have a comic that bombs on your show. No, we shouldn't. No, they need. I like it though. I did

arrow shows. It's fun. Really fun. Me and Norton. It was fun. That was great. You should come back as well. I'd love to come back. Yeah, me and be able to do it. You should. Well, man, anyways, guys, go to my website, realasdude.com. Also follow me on Twitter at LewisJ Gomez. Of course, check out Hammer Fisting. I never plug Hammer Fisting on YKW. It's a great show, man. I've done it a few times. It's super fun. Lawrence has done it. Dave Smith has on it every single week.

Where the finance, every Tuesday morning. Okay. Every Tuesday morning, around 11 a.m. So check us out, rikas.com slash Hammer Fisting. And come check me out live. I'm headlining Joker's Wild Scopus going to be there. there only from hammer fisting as well as going to be there. May 2nd and 3rd in New Haven, Connecticut. Come out, check me out. Fucking I think I'm going to do an hour for the first time guys. I've only had mine for 45 minutes.

Could be my first time doing an hour. That should be interesting. You would run out of material at 46 minutes. Just go slow, dude. 25 minutes of it is whole areas. I can't average for that. I got some big news. I'm gonna announce very shortly.

What do you got? What do you got? I got something. I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I like, you know, a big character here, there. I wanna see you get the big brain. Why are you getting me something? Where's your, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're a Louie, where's your Louie? Give me something. Is he nice, Guy Louie? Great guy.

Yeah, great. Went that show coming back. Soon, I shot him. Are you, are you in it? Yeah, a couple of the, she sees me. Love it. Brought me back. When's your show coming out?

You're a big show. Stop being the bride to me. What are you gonna give me? Why don't know? Oh, we're gonna work together. No, what are you gonna give me? You're gonna give me CM Punk. In terms of what? Give me, give me the details don't know? Oh, we're gonna work together. No, what are you gonna give me? You're gonna see him punk. In terms of what?

Give me the details. You guys look like a bad football. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you right now, you tell me. Okay. You gonna do that? You go first. My love, fuck, I-

You're gonna fucking drive me. I got nothing for you. You got nothing? I got nothing. I look forward to your news. I got nothing. I got nothing. Let me see something real quick

What are you doing their silence now? Talk then hey, so Oh, I'll do Bobby's dates. How about that you contacted your wife yet? Yeah, no, she's good. She's sleeping away tonight. Okay Your dates what's going on? I'm calling my manager. Deats. He has a special answering phone line for me. If his announcement is that he's dropping me,

I'm going to be pretty furious. Oh, that made me so happy. Hey, Jim. Ginny. I was watching on News 3. Hey, let me ask you you question. Are you listening? Can I I've been plugging I have a big announcement for weeks can I make the announcement? Can I tell people? Come on

I mean the only thing I'm thinking is I can call that can make sure they're all right with it. Oh, so you know what? I won't do it yet. Let's hold off. Maybe I don't show an FX, which got it. I'll let's go. Let's hold off. Okay.

I'm pretty good friends with that guy. Very good friends with him. Let me ask him how he feels about it. Okay. All right. I'll do it right now. I'll send him an email from here. I'm going to get you a top again.

Okay. friends with that guy, very good friends with him. Let me ask him how he feels about it. Okay, all right. I'll do it right now. I'll send him an email from here. I'm gonna keep talking to you. Okay. All right. I'll get back to you soon as I hear that. All right, nice, nice answer machine by the way. Miles made that.

Yeah, his special answer machine for me when I call. Wow. It was just his kids farting. Yeah. He's out of his mouth. So he's a grown man. All right, bye. So you's a grown man. I buy. So you got to show an FX?

No. Look at you. No. No, I don't. No, no, dude. This is a sitcom or is this like? It's not. Why don't you know what you're talking about?

We don't even know what you're talking about. Well, I can graduate. I wish you a muzzle to. A muzzle tough to you to your new show. Thank you. Good for your show. I can't wait. I can't wait for your kid. Right. muzzle to muzzle tough to you to your new show. Thank you. Thank you for your show I thought you're so I can't wait I can't wait for your kid right for your kid muzzle tough. That's great And for your new show on HBO. Thank you. That's awesome. I can't believe we broke the news today that Ariel Hawani will be fighting in the UFC. That's crazy. The fact that you're actually gonna start your own

MMA league is amazing. And that Robert has his own show on Fox News Latino. I mean, this is just unbelievable. I never would have thought Dana White was a neo-nazi until in the break. You said that. I can't believe I really can't believe what we were really going corporate with all of us and it was fun. And you had to bring why is it Nazi rape? I thought the neo-nazi thing made he was bald already.

Just seemed like a fit. No, not good, not good, not good for he was bald already, it just seemed like a fit. No, not good, not good, not good for corporate man over here. No, I'm a Jew, that's like a, we can say stuff like that. Oh shit, sorry, what the fuck? All right guys, so I guess we're not gonna wait, we're just gonna go, right? I'm not gonna wait for the news.

So, the email, got six. Yeah, we can't wait though. No, fucking an ounce of it, what are you doing? I'm on the edge of my seat right now my phone just I can change my phone look it wow My phone just how's it gonna fuck my it's gonna affect you at all getting other bigger you get the better it is for me Good for the goose is good for the game. Here's the deal. I brought in new co-tails for you to fucking cling onto Okay, they're watching.

She still give out my number. Twitter out. By the way, did you know? I actually blocked you on Twitter because we were asking me so many times. Do you know that the gander is the marios? I love the aeros. Aeros really fucking figuring this whole thing out. Yeah, this is great.

I want to do this. I want to hang out with comics more often. You're a future. You're a future having fun. I'm having the best time out of the group. This is great. He's bustin' balls. Did you know that a gander is a male goose? I'm, I, do you ever know that this is called the knuckle sandwich?

And you stick your finger in my face again. Robert Kelly, sandwich expert. As soon as I said sandwich, I knew a fat goat was coming. God damn it. All right, guys, we're gonna wrap it up. I will tell you that good news next episode. Or maybe never. What? Yeah, just, you know, go to Robert Kelly Live I'm gonna wrap it up. I will tell you that good news next episode, or maybe never.

What? Yeah, just go to robberkillerlive.com. Check out all my dates. I'm in Toronto for a whole fucking month. I'm at the Harris, Harris in Atlantic City with Nick DePolo coming up. I'm in Tampa doing the Cowhead roast. I'm in Boston at the Wilbur on April 18th. I'm all over the fucking place.

And I'm going back to San Francisco to the punchline in June, which I'm excited about. It's one of my favorite clubs in the fucking world. And I'm finally going back. So that makes me really happy. So go to robacolorlive.com, support all the shows on the RiotC Network, and you guys are the best. Thank you so much for listening to the You Know What Dead Podcast.

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