Robert Kelly's You Know What Dude! - YKWD #563 | Yoshi Obayashi | Banned in Japan
Episode Date: December 1, 2024This week on YKWD Yoshi Obayashi returns. Yoshi is always a favorite on the pod! Get the EXTRA YKWD, Watch LIVE and UNEDITED AT https://www.patreon.com/robertkelly LIVE FROM THE SHED AND MORE ON PAT...REON DUDE!!! https://twitter.com/robertkelly https://twitter.com/YKWDpodcast http://instagram.com/ykwdudepodcast https://www.facebook.com/YkwdPodcast/ #YKWD #YouKnowWhatDude #RobertKelly #BobbyKelly #Comedy #Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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It's Robert Kelly and we're back another episode of YKWD.
You know what, dude?
The first acronym show on the fucking planet.
Now everybody does an acronym, name it.
They all do one.
Right?
What's Mark Maron's WTF? Yeah, I was before that. Name another one. Your
mom's house, YMH. Before that, name another one. They were dating. They weren't even together.
He was fat. What's what's Bilber's podcast network? Monday morning something. Same thing.
Before that.
Oh, JRE, Joe Rogan Experience.
I mean, let's not get crazy.
I mean, let's go nuts.
Anyways, above the Comedy Cellar at the Comedy Cellar Studios,
I have a fantastic guest tonight.
One of my favorite people.
I love when he's around, I love talking to him,
and the last time out on the podcast, surprise it!
I thought I'd get what, maybe three or four views.
The podcast went nuts.
So interesting guy.
Who do we got, Joe?
We got Yoshi Abyashi.
Why is he sitting so far away?
Is this a custom thing, Is this a custom thing?
Is this a Japanese thing?
You must be two white women or three Japanese women away.
I just made that up.
I'm sorry.
No, I thought maybe this was a COVID policy.
No, fuck no.
Why is he so far away?
Wait, why?
What, is this far?
You're faced that way.
Why, you want me to move?
Turn.
All right. Towards me.
Is that okay, Joe?
Is that better talking to the microphone Joe?
Can't hear you have headphones on.
Yeah, I'm very, you know, Bobby.
I'm not antisocial.
You are.
I really am.
Yoshi.
It's been a long time.
Has it?
Since?
Yep.
About a what?
Eight month?
Ten months ago?
I mean listen, to a traveler like you that's nothing, to a regular person like me, it's
a long time.
You're not a regular person, Bobby.
What do you mean I'm not a regular person?
You're not a regular person.
Do tell.
Do tell.
You're famous.
What?
First of all, whatever that little move was with the Coke
where you moved it first and then you looked up.
I don't like, did you see that business he just did?
That acting.
Wait a minute, I wasn't mean to be sarcastic.
You're a.
It's fun shway, Bobby.
Is it fun shway?
Yes, there you go.
Dude, I think of you all the time
when I think about traveling and just doing shit. Where have you been?
I just got back from Japan on Wednesday. I thought you weren't supposed to go to Japan
I thought when you go to Japan the last podcast look it up go back watch the show
You broke a cunt bone somewhere
Wait beep that
You you got a fight you got a beep that why no it a joke, okay? Wow Jesus Christ you really fucking libtard
You have to beep it on YouTube, but I'm not on punch up dot live. Yeah slash Robert Kelly
Yeah, did you got you got you said you go back to Japan you get arrested at the airport
Okay, about a 20 month ago
Russell Peters brother asked me. Hey, I'm going to travel to Japan,
would you mind traveling with me?
And Joe Rogan asked me like 10 years ago
to go to Japan with him, and I told him like,
I feel a little uncomfortable doing that
because I could get arrested.
So I said no to Joe.
You said no to Joe and you said yes to Russell Peters' brother?
I mean, they've done so much for me.
They have.
Yeah, but I don't know,
I was a little worried about 10 years ago, but you know by the time I went last year it was it was pushing 20 years I
Thought I was alright. Is there a statute of limitation on breaking a twat bone?
I don't think there is such thing as natural limitation, but here's the thing people keep asking me
Well, why don't you find out if?
If they're looking for you. Here's the problem. How would you do that? The very act of asking them will put them in a
position they have to do something now. That would remind them that yeah that's
there. 100% that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But it was still
unnerving you know and because you're going listen people don't know a little
context to all this you last time I don't want to bring it up
Yeah, I'm just gonna context. Yeah, that's all can I bring up some context?
Some stuff happened. Yes last time you Japan family things whatever some 2003 2003 a long time ago
Yeah, when you were a different person. Yes, and
You got into some shit and you left Japan not I can never go
back I can never go back some stuff happened. Do you know what happened? I
do. Because people talk about this stuff. I was in Taipei ready to fly into Osaka
Japan so I'm a little nervous you know. I haven't been back in Japan about
almost 20 years at that point. This is like last year. Yeah At the terminal everyone's Asian obviously except a couple. I don't know minority
while their minorities in Asia, but blacks and white folks, you know, yeah, and I'm
Talking to one of my friends on the phone and this one white guy keep looking at me and like what is this?
Five minutes later. I'm talking to I don't remember who I was talking to,
he walked up to me and say, are you Yoshi?
And I was like,
yes?
And you know what this motherfucker said?
Within six months of that time,
Tom Segar and Bert Kreischer was talking about me
doing something, Bert was talking about it. So this guy heard a pod and most people
don't recognize me but they recognize my accent and my voice. Yeah. So he just
heard me so he came over. So he's asking all kinds of questions, terminal like I
don't want to talk about this. Yeah. How did he know you from the other Asian people there? Shut up! I mean that's fucking wild.
Shut your fucking mouth.
I mean, seriously.
I'm 6'1", first of all.
That is, they probably thought you were a basketball player, yes.
And that's really funny.
I mean, you should give him credit for going,
Yoshi, in the middle of a sea of your face.
Just hundreds of... Can you turn your mic on so I can hear you laughing? credit for going, Yoshi in the middle of a sea of your face.
Just hundreds.
Can you turn your mic on so I can hear you laughing? It helps myself.
Thanks.
I mean, that's wild.
Did somebody went, I mean, it's like, I've been to Japan.
Yeah.
I would not be able to pick you up.
Shut up.
But out of the lineup, I'd walk right by your face.
Here's the thing we're going to talk about in a second, this election and what podcasts have done during the campaign. Yeah. But in the last seven or eight years,
once again, they don't know my face, right? But they recognize me. Because you look like
everybody they know. I'm sorry. Is that not? I'm sorry am I I mean it's pretty it's kind of
accurate can I ask you a question yeah this is a little nuance do Asian people
recognize other Asians oh what ethnicity yeah can they see you and go oh he's got Korean in him. You know what I mean? Generally speaking, kind of.
Yeah, okay.
You know, I don't know if this makes sense.
You know when stereotypically like people say like, oh, this particular group look all same.
I think what they're really saying is they all look different in the same way from me.
I think that's what they're saying.
Oh, that's a good way of looking at it.
And, but, I mean, you know what it is? You know what's weird? I was born in Japan. I went,
I went five times since I went back last year, right?
You've been back to Japan five times since you went back last year?
Yeah.
That's a lot.
It's a lot because I miss a lot of the stuff there and I went back.
Ramen.
Dumplings.
It's a little-
Gyoza.
Gyoza, tempura.
Yes.
It's unnerving when I go there because I got so used to America's diversity.
It's very strange to me now that I go to Japan everybody looks same all the fucking time, right?
It's a little weird for me. I'm more comfortable over here where people are fucking loud and rude and right, you know fucking with you
But I'm kind of used to it. It's so it's too polite there. I love it. I love it. I love it
I love that you can't you know loud in public. I love the tradition. I love the courtesy
I love the Japanese culture to me. Yeah is one of my favorite places I've ever been
It's beautiful. Yeah, they respect their elderly
People are nice I
Love that. It's not loud. I love that it's not loud. I love that it's not crazy.
And they do crazy silly shit too.
It's a good place if you're not Japanese and if you have money.
It's expensive.
No, no. It's really really cheap.
Like I said, it's cheap. It's very cheap there.
I have a lot
of friends living in Japan they're non-Japanese living Japan they complain
to me all the time like Yoshi I've been here 20 30 40 years I'm fluent in
Japanese and they don't treat me like a native and I always remind them like
you're such a fucking idiot. Your count your blessing.
If you live in Japan and you don't have abrogation being Japanese, all the headache that goes
with it, it's the perfect place for you because you have all the benefit without any other
responsibility.
That's the perfect place if you're a foreigner.
Well they don't, they will not speak English.
They're like, fuck you, speak Japanese.
That's what I, when I was there, I was like, Hey, can I, and they're like, fuck you, speak Japanese. That's what I, when I was there, I was like,
hey, can I, and they're like, ugh.
And they-
Where did you go?
I went in 2005, I think, something like that.
I went with the USO.
It changed quite a bit since then.
What happened?
Godzilla?
What?
I knew this was gonna be 60 minutes, 90 minutes, like Chinese water torture.
I think the same difference. I know you're gonna say that. Ching or Chang, whatever.
Whoa, how dare you? You just said an Asian thing right now just now when you go whoa oh oh um no no no because i think online stuff netflix
and podcasts and youtube yeah yeah it's it's it's doing something weird you know you know like if
you go to every mall in amer, you pretty much know exactly what
they have, where you can look for something.
Yeah.
It's becoming uniform.
Right.
And I think Japan is in similar way to you because American companies and products and
franchise, they're huge in Japan.
In fact, I make an argument that American fast food has killed more Japanese than those two nukes dropped in Japan.
Wow! That's a... I mean...
We much prefer nukes than those junk food.
It's really weird to see fat Japanese people.
Fatness is so normal here.
But fat Japanese...
I mean, I feel you're insulting my country.
No, I'm American, I'm just saying.
The McDonald's is different though, bro.
What do you mean?
Well, when you go to the McDonald's, you don't have to deal with...
This is coming to a Japanese McDonald's.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Just order something for me.
Just order a Big Mac with fries and a Coke.
Uh, Big Mac on the guys must.
Hi. OK. Hey.
And that's for.
Yeah. OK. OK. OK. Yeah.
I order something for me in America.
Um, could I get number three Big Mac?
Hmm. What?
We are the Big Macs. What? I mean it's different. They're very polite. Here's another thing too. When I was in Japan, if you were like, hey man, don't give me the
egg on that, because they have egg on the hamburger there, which I love. That's such
a Japanese thing. If you're like, oh, don't give me no cheese. They're like, jeez. Like
they're like, we can't change. It is what it is. It's very like... No, no, no, no.
This is serious. You pinpointed something very, very true. Yeah. They have set of
orders. Yep. And if you ask anything beyond that, they get really confused.
Because most Japanese would not make that kind of requirement
Request and when they receive that they don't want to humiliate you, but they don't know what to do either, right?
Americans are really good at like a spare moment like it you have to make a change. They're good at adapting
Yep, I don't think Japanese are like that at all. No, they they know how to make that Big Mac in that photo
Yeah, and that when you come in you go, but we can't deviate from that. They don No, they know how to make that Big Mac in that photo. Yeah.
And when you come in, you go.
But we can't deviate from that.
They don't, they don't want to.
Yeah.
I mean, like when I was on the plane,
it took a lot of planes because we went to different islands.
Yeah.
If you were in the bathroom when they were landing,
they were like, go back to seat.
I'm like, give me a minute.
Sir, I'm like, give me a minute. Sir, I'm like, give me a fucking minute.
You know, they don't deviate from the rules.
Even the prisons in Japan, I watched a documentary
on the prisons, there's the rules, like they wake up,
they make their bed, they fold up their little futon,
they push it in the corner, they make everything neat,
they wash everything.
It's very orderly.
And they fold it like origami?
Yeah, they fold once, twice, threely and they fold it like origami. Yeah, they foot once twice
I mean there is a lot of tradition that
They you know, and they're very orderly which I love that sense of order
Yeah sense of order which I love about Japanese people. I think this is another thing
This is something I think I wasn't really used to I saw so many five and six year old kids
Get on the bus to take a subway by themselves.
Almost impossible over here.
I mean, can you, do you feel comfortable?
Well, also Japanese people aren't fucking their kids.
I don't think pedophilia is a big thing there.
It exists everywhere.
Of course it does.
Yeah.
That's a weird thing to say.
And the way you say it.
Why is that a weird?
Because you're like, where I go, it exists.
No, it does exist everywhere, but it's not, I think that kids there are brought up, they're
mature.
Look, we went through the 60s, 70s, 80s, even the 90s, where they just let you out.
Latchkey kid, just go.
I remember that.
And then kids were getting killed and molested
and fucked up and so now they've become
these helicopter parents where they go to the park
with the kids, they sit there with the kids.
Anywhere they go, they drop them off.
I think they're called drone parents now. Yeah. Like I try, like we gave my kid the
keys to the house. Yeah. And he'll go, he'll just go out and leave. I'm like, all right,
I'm going to hang out. All right. How old is he now? He's 11. So, but I still give,
cause I remember my childhood, dude.
When I was his age, I was, I was out drinking and partying and hanging out.
You know what I mean?
Jesus.
Yeah.
I mean, that was the eighties, man.
That was the seventies and eighties was you hung out at the park and you had some pops,
you know, you drank, you fucking did weird shit.
Now it's like we, I think that generation seventies, eighties and nineties are like,
look, man, we have to do better with our kids
Yeah, and we overcompensated they there was a study. I've talked about this before
my generation grew up with
Depression I mean anxiety. I mean no my generation grew up with
depression
Where we were taught you're fucking fucking idiot we got into fights and all
this shit we were just being adults at a very young age I remember making tea when
I was in first grade for myself my mother wasn't home nobody was home yeah
I would come up from school alone and turn the TV on and go out and play at
the park by ourselves you know in the summer they just go to the park they had
a guy at the park with baseball bats and baseballs and you just went there all day.
Sure.
And we grew up with depression and you know,
we were fucked up and sad.
This generation, but we had no fear,
this generation is growing up with anxiety
because they don't do anything on their own.
I mean, we're about the same age.
We did have fear of nuclear attack by Soviet Union
and things like that.
Yeah, but even that, that shit made us stronger.
We didn't have fear of life.
I remember climbing roofs and jumping roof to roof.
I did that too.
The winter time, we grabbed the end of a bumper and mush.
I remember I mushed the school one day on a bus.
I grabbed the back of the bus,
because I didn't have money, so I just grabbed it
and it dragged me to the school, you know what I mean?
We did so much crazy shit back then.
We had no fear of being hurt or, you know,
any of that shit.
Now kids are so afraid of everything,
doing anything by themselves.
Are they afraid or the parents are making them afraid?
Their parents are passing on the fear.
Yeah.
Because the parent, don't do that, don't do this, don't do that, don't go there, stop
that, don't go there, be home at this time, where are you going to be?
I'll pick you up, blah, blah, blah.
My mother never picked me up from anywhere.
You know what I mean?
My mother took the bus for God sakes.
You know what I mean?
So it's like these kids are growing up with all this anxiety
Because they would just pampered their whole lives and their cell phone is the world yeah and I
Mean buddy, I just went to Cuba for a week. Yeah, and not having a cell phone
It's a good thing not looking at Instagram not looking at any social media, not being able to look at anything anybody said,
and just waking up, I was reading a lot,
and sitting by myself a lot with my own thoughts.
It was the most, I felt so cleansed.
Me and Ari went there so we wouldn't have to deal with the election.
We wanted to go see the country and we always wanted to go to Cuba for cigars and to see
that beautiful place, right?
And we knew it was going to be, you know, we brought our expectations way down.
We were like, the food's going to not be good because they don't have the ability to make
great food.
We know that it's going to be a poor country.
So we've got to stay somewhere safe, but we can't stay in any hotels.
But we're going to, you know, we brought our expectations with you.
And. But also, we didn't want to know what was happening in the election this week.
We didn't want to deal with any of the bullshit.
I didn't want to. This person said that, this that, and who's it all the
people flipping out or being happy, whatever. And to not know any of it, to
not get involved in any of it, and it had no effect on my life whatsoever
except positive, it was awesome.
Going back to the kids thing, and I'll go back to my comments, what you just said.
Molesting kids?
No.
Oh, okay.
When we were kids, because we didn't have cell phone, we used to daydream, right?
And I think there's something positive about daydreaming, you know, like famously, Steve Jobs and like Isaac Newton,
they had problems and creative solutions popped up.
When you're on your cell phone all the time, these kids are not having any other daydreams,
you know? So these corporations are literally taking that away from kids and instituting their
notion of dream and things like that. And parents, older folks, because we have to work for these corporations all the time,
we literally sleep less, so we dream less, you know.
You know what was interesting during COVID?
Because everyone was stuck at home, it's one of the first time in like the last 20 years,
people actually had more sleep, and they were having vivid dreams.
I think there's an institute in like, I don't remember, University of Houston or some place in
Houston, they have an institute of dreaming, you know, and I think, I think
people are having more vivid dream and actually sleeping better. At least that
was one positive thing of COVID, you know, but now we're back into this
less daydreaming, I think which has a positive thing for kids and
people are sleeping less and when they have a little bit of time, you know, it's
it's not a vivid dream, you know. You know, I'm trying to say something weird is going on.
I don't really talk about this too much, but I really believe in the power of manifestation.
Yeah.
I believe if you can see it, you can have a version of it.
You won't have the exact exact version of it.
But I believe if you can see it, you not that it's magically being drawn to you.
But if you really can sit there and dream about something and think about it and see
yourself there,
which is a form of daydreaming.
You will get there.
The things that you need to get there
will come in your path,
and it will manifest in your life.
I really believe in that stuff.
Inversely, if you're not allowed to imagine,
you're not gonna make it happen, right?
Absolutely. And if you're always saying, I can't do that. Yeah. This is you can't ever have that.
And that's, you know, too much.
It shuts down that creative thought process.
Sure. That allows you to notice opportunities.
To make these things happen. Yeah, I agree.
And I really believe in naps.
Just take an hour to go back to bed
in the middle of the fucking day.
I agree.
If you can go somewhere and just fucking relax somewhere
for a half hour or an hour and take a nap,
your brain shuts down.
You're not thinking of any bullshit
and your brain's thinking of the things that you want
or that you like or that you appreciate.
I 100% believe in that.
Unfortunately most people probably can't do it
because they're working or their jobs won't allow it.
Yeah, well most people I think, I don't know,
I hate when I say most people
because I don't fucking know, but you know yeah well most people I think I don't know I hate when I say most people because I don't fucking know but you know when I see families at a
restaurant and everybody's on their phone I'm like you like this is a wasted
opportunity of like connection that you can have well I'm sure you've seen
plenty of this shit in malls
where there's five kids that are on cell phones, right?
Right.
And two, I remember when I was a teenager,
the first thing you wanna do is get a driver's license,
not with this generation, because if you have a cell phone,
even if they're not next to you,
FaceTime or whatever, right?
So there's no sense of urgency either, you know?
Well also, when I was a kid, we had less,
I guess the internet was TV. Yeah we only had five channels yes and they only had kids
stuff on on Saturday yes everything else was news and boring adult shit so you
lived from for Saturday morning I remember waking up Saturday morning getting my big bowl of cereal.
Sitting in front of the TV, cartoons, Bugs Bunny, Creature Double Feature,
The Three Stooges, and then it would go into adult stuff in the afternoon.
Wrestling would come on at like noon, and then all of a sudden it was sports and adults
and crazy shit, so you'd shut it down.
Then you'd go out.
You'd go out and meet your friends.
But Saturday was the only day for kids.
They didn't have anything else on.
I think if you're a young teenager,
you might watch something like Letterman or something
when they have a special band or something on.
I didn't watch any of that shit.
No, no, I didn't watch, I didn't really fuck around with,
and plus TV back then, it was like,
if you missed a show, you missed it forever.
Yeah.
If you didn't watch it on Monday,
if you didn't watch the A-Team on Monday night,
you didn't see it again.
They didn't have reruns.
That's true.
They didn't have, you know, you couldn't record it.
And then I think when, now now we went from five TV channels
to everything ever filmed ever.
Infinity, really.
Infinity, infinity.
In your phone, you can just turn and do,
it's the greatest thing ever.
And it's the greatest thing,
and it's also the worst thing. It's the worst thing ever. And it's the greatest thing and it's also the worst thing.
It's the worst thing in the world.
We did talk about TV, but I think movies were also a big factor too because I'm sure this is probably true too.
Like I didn't want to go back to school Monday not watching Return of the Jedi or something when everybody saw it.
So I'll watch it and you know I don't want to be that one kid not seeing it or something you know.
But other than that, you're right. We don't really we experience stuff as like socially
Yeah, socially around other kids more. Yeah, like you do we used to go to the movies. Yes. I remember going to see Greece
like what are you laughing at I
Remember going to see Greece in a theater packed with people and just being around all
these people seeing this thing for the first time.
It was like this moment you had.
You have a communal thing.
I don't have to do that anymore.
I can sit down in my living room and just watch whatever the fuck I want on an 85 inch
TV.
Can I tell you, so I'm gonna be a downer.
Yeah.
Okay, so one, there is a communal thing right now, like this election or Super Bowl, right?
But we're really running out of things like we could share.
And I think this is why we have national tragedies.
Because every time there's school shooting or something, this is something everybody feels it.
And know what you're talking about.
But outside of that, everyone is watching their special show that I've never heard of before, you know
There's nothing really common to talk about anymore. Well, it's really really strange. I think that like TV like Taylor Sheridan
Yeah, Taylor Sheridan. He's the creator of Yellowstone. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's the creator of a lot of really good TV
All hits, right? All
pretty much hits and I think that like The Penguin, have you seen The Penguin yet? I'm gonna watch it
tonight when I go to the airport. Such a great show. Somebody told me it's like uh uh DC meets
Sopranos. It's yes I would that's a great but it, it's better than that because it's DC meets the Sopranos,
but it, it's shot in television in epic movie.
So it is good as everybody's saying.
It's as good as everybody's saying.
And what I love about it,
cause the thing I hate about it though, is that.
You're not in it.
No, yes.
I mean, that fucking sucked.
Whatever that was, I wasn't even thinking of that,
but yeah, that blows.
But here's another thing.
Is that, like I talked to somebody today,
I just watched the first episode.
Oh dude, I've watched all of them.
And it's like, you just binge,
you just sat there and watched hours of a show.
I mean, I just, it's like, You just sat there and watched hours of a show.
I mean, I just, it's like, I used to love having to wait till next week.
Now, this is a two different experience, isn't it?
Because if you watch Breaking Bad week after week
for five, six years, it's a different experience.
When you binge it, you quickly learn
when Walter White turned bad.
But when you watch it week to week,
it's kind of
gradual so you don't know exactly where the show's going, you know.
You feel the emotion they wanted you to feel over the time that they wanted you to feel it.
I hate to wait, but I think it's a more satisfying experience.
For a TV show, yeah. If not, just make a movie. It's crazy that television right now is bigger than movies. It started in 1999.
How do you say that? Soprano, West Wing. And you know, 1999 is considered to be the greatest
year in movies. It's the last year before things got down the toilet. It's because in 1999,
most of those movies are not dependent on ticket sales.
They still make a lot of money through DVD.
So they could take a big swing and do a lot of creative stuff like John Malkovich or Matrix
and all these great movies.
Like 1939, 1999, 2004, 2007.
There's decades, years where they were great, but 1999 was a particularly amazing
year. Well, it's streaming.
Yeah. And so, but... Streaming killed the business.
Killed. And then when the DVD sales crashed, now studios are like a pressure to make money
when the movie hits theaters. And if you don't do it, you could
lose a career too. So 99 is considered to be if not the greatest or second greatest
year in movies, but the television shows really start taking over. It was more creative. Sopranos
started there and a couple years before that you had Oz and like seven or eight years before
the NYPD blues and yeah the sons of anarchy yeah you had of course Breaking Bad the wire yeah
was the shield is not you know yeah and I rescue me I think these shows they're
taking creative risk that the movies are really afraid to do it well you know a
much money to do that you know what they they did? TV was always corny. TV was always just a little corny.
Yeah.
They didn't swear, they didn't show nudity.
If you were a TV actor, you were a TV actor,
but then there was movie stars.
Yeah.
But then all of a sudden they started to show boobs,
they started to swear, HBO, you know what I mean?
But then FX was the first network to go, you know what?
Because network TV has those rules.
Cable had no rules, but they followed network rules
for some reason.
And FX, and I believe it was John Landgraf,
was the first guy to take a risk.
Yeah, with Louis, of course.
Well, it was really the shield. The shield is when they started started swearing. They showed male nudity bums and shit like that
It's an incredible series that should be mentioned with all the great ones
It's one of the greatest shows is one of the most painful thing. I've saw in the last season
Yeah, you know which episodes I'm talking about. Well, tell the people
Spoil it I'm not gonna spoil it but tell the people. What? Spoil it. I'm not going to spoil it, but there's just...
I give you permission.
Watch this.
This is how you do it.
Spoil alert.
If you don't want to know, they should know by now.
It's fucking been 15 years since the show was on.
Well, I mean, you know, when Shane killed his wife and kids and then, of course...
What?
I didn't see that episode.
Shut the fuck up.
You're such a fucking prick. All right. Fucking yoke you. and then uh... of course what really gets people because this that
show is if somebody from the 1920s and 30s saw that show they'll be shocked
because that the most clearly ambiguous at best evil character practically got
away with it right I mean you know he grabbed the gun and left the fucking
office but it's very ambiguous but but I think that's probably true to life too
I mean well if you look at like that that network I feel like that network and maybe a little spike
tv but FX is the network that changed television for the better because HBO to you HBO did but
HBO was like I don't know come on man I'm also soprano. HBO, absolutely, I would definitely give it to them.
But I'm talking like cable channels.
Yeah.
Like, you know, they stuck to the network guidelines.
Yeah.
HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, they were like movies.
Yeah.
They kind of had no rules, but you paid for it.
These were shows, channels that you just got.
Yeah.
You had to pay for HBO. These were shows, channels that you just got. You had to pay for HBO. So if
you wanted, you know, rated R shit, you paid for it. But these are channels you just got.
You got FX. So they kind of clung onto that, the rules. They were the first channel to
go, fuck it, we don't need to, we're not obligated to do that. And they were like, let's take, that's why Louis came out,
it was crazy, rescue me with all the shit that they did
of the alcoholism, the firefighters,
with all these problems, cheating and sex
and talking about the word fag and queer and sick
and that amazing scene that they talked about when they
had of HR come in and talk about words they can't use anymore yeah I mean you
you you couldn't get away with that on TV like you were saying John Langer off
right he's like coach right like coach Belichick and just like HBO had Chris
Albrecht he really changed he was fucking awesome yeah and unfortunately
you know he did
something bad in HBO with his girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, whatever. He lost his thing.
But what'd he do again? He supposedly beat up his girlfriend at a time. But what did
she do? Oh Jesus Christ. No one ever asked that. No one ever asked what did she do? Yeah no I tell you a funny
story about that. We were doing comic Relief, they brought it back one year
for the Las Vegas Comedy Festival they had for one year.
And it was huge.
Or maybe they had it for two years.
It was just a massive comedy festival.
It was Aspen Comedy Festival, but in Vegas.
They just, HBO's Comedy Festival whatever it was
and it was huge and I was backstage at Comic Relief I mean everybody's there
yeah and Louis was there Dane was doing it he was at his biggest at that point
right Dane Cook oh yeah yeah I mean what the fuck dude that's funny
so I was no I just didn't hear you.
Okay, I thought you were making a joke.
No, no, no, no.
So I'm backstage, I'm in front of the food,
and I'm just getting the food,
and this guy's trying to kind of muscle me.
He wanted some where I was, but I was like,
hey, fuck him, I'm fucking, it was,
Louie goes, Bobby.
I go, what?
And he turns, get out of the way.
Let him get some food.
I'm like, oh, sorry, dude, whatever.
Grab some fucking chicken salad, whatever you want.
It was the head of HBO.
Oh, really?
It was, what's his name again?
Chris Albrecht.
Chris Albrecht was trying to get some chicken salad.
And I was just fucking muscled him out of it.
And Louie was like, dude, that's the head of HBO, that's Chris. And I'm just fucking muscled him out of it and uh and the lawyer was like dude. That's the head of it
That's Chris, and I'm like who he's like the fucking owner of it all the big guy was he being dick to you
No, he's being a nice guy. He's just trying to get chicken salad. I was just being a dick to him
Yeah, cuz I was there you know, but it's the head
If it was a woman he would just beat the shit out of her right there. Yeah, right and that
I should have hit him.
Um, it was a funny thing too.
I remember Dane did a joke and Whoopi came up to me and was like, I like that joke.
I might use that.
What?
And Dane was like, she was like, I'll see you later.
He goes, what?
He just...
Yeah, I guess that generation just took each other's shit and didn't even think about it.
Whoa.
I mean, she was friends with Robin Williams
who was supposed to be an absorber, let's call it.
Not a hack, but he absorbed people.
I heard he was generous, like if you complained,
like hey you stole my joke, he will write you a chick.
Sure, one of the nicest people I've ever met in business.
Yeah, one of the nicest people.
But going back to the...
Those are television shows, yeah.
The thing that I like about you, Yoshi,
that, you know, when I first met you,
you were this weird porn guy.
Yeah.
That was trying...
Well, I'm still the same weird porn guy.
Not my am, you know.
Yeah, but you're not doing porn.
You're not in the porn business anymore.
No, but...
You were a guy that let's play
You know up. Hey, man, what's going on? You did stand up? Okay, cool. And then you would just be like, hey you want some dildos?
And you had a trunk full of porns and stuff and then but then the last time you were on the show
All the stuff like you love theater
like you love
going to see
Live theater shows you will come to New York. Yeah to go to matinees to see shows you're here now
Watching shows right that was part of the reason I was here. Yeah, I just saw old Mary yesterday
That's like a biggest
Comedy sensation
At that theater. It's the first time in 120 30 years that you're averaging 1 million dollars in sales every week It's the biggest show last year and a half. Really? Yes, and tickets are really hard to get
I have to go there like 5 a.m
really yes and uh... tickets are really hard to get i i have to go there like five a m staining line until ten a m ticket that rush tickets you know of
course i made a mistake i didn't realize on mondays the star to show us in
performing on mondays so you saw the other person
yeah understudy but she was phenomenal so that was great and uh... i went with
uh... a kid named andrew manning the comic
uh... locally
so we went, it was a great show.
Then tonight I just saw Walden with Emmy Rossum, fantastic.
And then I'm leaving tomorrow.
But it's a little weird because, you know,
Bobby, you're a clean, funny guy, people trust you,
but you also have like the trust of really legend
like Louie and Dane and all these guys trust you you know what I mean and and
part of the reason is they see something in you and I've been saying this for
years you're one of the half dozen people that I know that should be doing
one-man show because you have something to say, you know? But it is a different animal, isn't it?
Because you know, there's a movie right now, I've seen it twice, Anora by Sean Baker.
It's a phenomenal film and it's going to get a nomination for Oscar, I guarantee it with
my life.
Malky Madison, she was on the show on FX, why am I blinking right now?
But she's phenomenal, you know, she plays a hooker, not hooker, stripper.
Same thing.
But what was interesting, what was interesting, the powerful part of the film, she's naked
all the time because she's a stripper, but there's a scene in the
movie where she's fully clothed, but she opened up emotionally. That was the only time she
was really naked. See, tits all around, whatever. I work in sex business, I didn't care. It's
that kind of performance what people want to see in theaters. Like, stand-up comedy,
you laugh for 45 minutes, you forget about it, you go home. But this one-man show, after you finish, the audience feels like you really
left something on stage and it really makes people think about things, you know? And I
know that, I think you told me a couple times that you talked about struggle with food and
things like that. But like, underneath it, it's not just food,
it's something else that's making you
have an issue with food, you know?
Well, it's funny you bring that up too.
Yeah.
I was just talking about this in therapy today.
Yeah.
Because anytime I go to therapy,
Yeah.
He always,
he always, it always winds up back on me.
That's why I love my therapist,
because it always winds up on me.
Even in AA, it always winds up back on you.
When I talk to people in the program,
it's like, okay, where is that coming from?
What is that from?
Like, when I, whatever it is, you get mad at somebody,
where is that from?
And it always goes back, it always goes back to,
you know, my anger goes back to when I was a kid,
and I just wanted to be loved, just wanted to be a kid.
And I, you know, in that age, where, you, the adults wouldn't, you know, the people that loved you the most would make fun of you, fuck with you.
It's the same people that hurt you the most, yeah.
It's the same people that hurt you the most.
And they don't even know they're doing that made me strong enough to survive this shit. Yeah is the same stuff that
Gave me bad
Techniques and wired my brain wrong to deal with things now. Yes, so it's a coping mechanism, right?
It's a coping mechanism. Yeah, it's like, you know
So now that I have a child and a wife, yeah, I love
So now that I have a child and a wife that I love, those coping mechanisms come out with them. It's not fair to them.
I can't give that to my kid.
I have to figure it out now.
I have to figure it out.
Because if I don't wire my shit and figure that out. Yeah, I'm going to give it to him. Yes
And I also have to do that for my wife
Yeah
because if I'm if I'm used if I'm letting whatever she does that triggers those things sure if I don't figure that out and
fix it and
aware of it I
I'm go I'm just gonna that's gonna be passed on to him. That's how you
treat a wife. That's how you treat a woman. I can't do that to him.
So if I look back to when I was a kid, you know, me and Ari, we talked about this, we
were walking, we were in, when we were in, I've talked about this before, I'm sorry if
you heard the story, but the power went out for two and a half days,
finally the power came back on, it came back on,
we went to this place, he was like, this isn't the vibe.
He's like, let's go to this other place,
but the other place was very far away,
and then we realized very shortly
that there's not electricity everywhere.
So we're walking in Cuba through the hood
in the complete darkness.
Yeah.
And I was getting mad.
Sure.
Because I was afraid.
And I was mad at him because I was mad at myself.
Yeah.
Because I didn't say no.
Yes.
When he was like, let's go somewhere else, I should have said, I'm good.
Yeah.
I'm going to stay here.
If you do, if you want to go, go ahead.
Let me know how it is.
Yeah.
But I'm going to stay here because I'm comfortable here.
Yeah, since he's a wandering Jew, he have to go.
Well, he's a he's a he's an adventure.
Adventure. Yeah, I saw that in Sweden when we were hanging out.
Right. He is an adventure. Yeah. And that's one of the reasons why I love him.
And I love being around people like that. Yeah, fearless.
My friend Jack Vaughn is that way. Yeah. They are not afraid of other countries
and other people and places.
They understand the worst thing that's gonna happen
is probably get robbed.
Yeah.
But I'm so from Boston, getting robbed or beaten up
or abused or hit or attacked was such a part of my childhood
that it triggers that shit.
My stepfather, I learned from him
that if I pull a knife on you,
if I can be more angry than you,
if I can be scarier than you,
I learned from the bullies
that if I can fucking scream louder than you
and fucking punch harder or hit you harder,
then you leave me alone.
So if I can build up enough rage in me
and I can release it at you,
maybe it will get you to not hurt me.
And if I have to go further-
You know who you sound like?
Who?
Korean people.
The anger thing is really-
That is offensive.
Which one's, North or South?
West Koreans.
Well, the thing is that like, you know, to figure, to go back and, but then you have
to go back through, you know, I'm looking at my son, he's 11, by the time he was 11,
I was drinking.
Yeah.
I was hanging out till 12 at night by a barrel by a train track with 30 year old men
yeah drinking Seagram 7 and it wasn't because I wanted to you know it was
because I didn't know anything else I didn't know how to say no I didn't
nobody over there gave a fuck about me yeah the people over here seemed to care
about me sure so I did what they wanted me to do.
That's like that thing with Ari. It's like I'm there with him. I don't want to let him down. I
want to just go. And then as we went, I realized I'm in a fucking bad situation. So I got angry.
We got into a little argument and then I realized while later we're at this hotel and everything's okay. I I was like bro. It's not you. It's me
Yeah, when when I when I feel danger
whether it be physical or emotional I
Attack I
Fucking lose it. I become that thing that little monster just so you can't fucking get me. You can't hurt me, right?
so to that little monster just so you can't fucking get me, you can't hurt me, right? So to, to like in this part of my life, I have to always go back and figure this shit
out and unhinge it.
And I go back to my life.
I mean, you know, you talk about a one man show.
I absolutely have a one man show.
I am terrified to do it.
Yeah.
Because if I do it, it's a different animal, isn't it?
It's a different animal and I'll lose what I have now.
Because you know look at comics always...
Oh he's doing that one man show shit.
Yeah.
You know and you know I feel like...
Well fuck their attitude.
I understand you but I feel like if I go into that realm of it
I'll lose my funny.
No I don't think so.
I mean, you're hungry.
Because just like you were telling me,
you're acting angry because Ari and whatnot,
I understand that.
But I also saw you at your place,
the way you treat your son.
You just proved my point all the time.
You can never love a kid enough. You showered a kid with a lot of optimism
and love, you know, and I think it's a great thing. It's kind of sad in Japan
they don't do that. I think they think it weakened the kid to be independent, but
it makes me sad because when I see kids in Japan, they will behave but that doesn't mean they're well
They have well-being just it. Yeah, and they were happy and things like that and
These kids that remember my cousin's kids. They're just loud little shits and the Jesus just I just want to hit them, you know
Three four years
But I remember one year when I come back when the kid was heading a little before they turned teenager,
all that shit disappeared to the point it made me sad,
because what made them individual being like a little bratty asshole,
that's gone now.
And that's the price Japan pay for having such a stable society.
But you take that little bit of personality,
little bit of happiness, little bit of uniqueness.
I guess the problem is we have two't, we have two society that's so
extreme in both ways. There's not a happy medium where we should be able to
have some sense of communal sense and like respect for others, but also
individual happiness too. It's a really hard one to balance. It is hard
because you know I don't want my,
if there's, look, if I don't, as a parent, bro,
you don't want to do something that will jeopardize
your kid's future where he makes wrong choices
and it's your fault, you know what I mean?
And like, last night, I go downstairs.
It's late.
She gave him 20 more minutes on just call of duty
He's like dad come play with me. I got on stairs. He's got NWA blasting on his little phone
Yeah, you know and
It's like this music. He shouldn't be listening to me. Yeah
But it I'm just looking I'm like this fucking kid is so cool
Yeah, he's sitting on he's got a little phone going,
he's playing NWA, he's playing gangster rap
from my generation.
I know the songs, I'm fighting singing, you know,
fuck the police, cause I know all the,
and we're playing Call of Duty, I was like,
I'm just gonna let this go, man.
Because if this is what, I'm in my brain,
I'm like, if this is what fucks him up,
this is his wild stallion. This is the thing that makes him kind of cool to me. That he's
11 listening to NWA playing video games. I'm kind of alright with that. And I know his mom, he can't listen to that.
I get it.
But is saying fuck the police, is he not gonna have respect
for the police?
No.
No, he's smart enough to know the difference, you know.
Right, he respects the police, he respects the,
he loves America, I love that about him.
Did you say he was 11 years old?
11.
In six or seven years, the reality is gonna hit him.
He's not gonna be a kid anymore. Once you're an adult, that's it man. I know. He only got seven more years to be a kid, you know.
And whether he's ready or not, the whole world is going to hit him pretty hard. So I just think,
and I've been to 70 countries, you know, to live in a country where you could do that, you know.
Yeah. Not worry about clean water or war and things like that.
It's very, very lucky to live like that.
I really think Americans need to go out of this country,
go to a country like Cuba, go to South America.
Yeah, Middle East.
Middle East.
Go somewhere where you don't have... you can't just walk in
and turn a light on, you can't just walk in,
you can't just take a shit and flush down baby wipes,
you can't take a shower every fucking twice a day,
you can't just turn the sink on and get a cup of water.
When I got back to America from Cuba,
and this happened to me in Guatemala too,
it made me go, I walked into my house and I was like, I have so fucking much.
The fact that we can just take a subway and go anywhere you want in the city, you can
go in and get food anywhere, you can get coffees and there's lines for lattes and there's
every fast food in the world.
This country is the best country in the world.
All the medical service available to you
that even kings didn't have it 1,200, 1,500 years ago.
And it's funny because they're like,
we don't have free Medicare.
Yeah, but you can get, you can go into a clinic.
I remember when I had no Medicaid,
they had a clinic on 59th Street, the Chelsea Clinic.
I went in there.
They got a W-2, how much you make?
I made shit money, 25 bucks a visit for whatever you wanted.
You know, when you go places like France and Japan,
they have a different attitude about food.
And I know in France, I think on Mondays,
they'll talk about what kind of meals they're gonna eat
for the rest of the week.
In Japan, kids are kind of forced to prepare their food and serve other kids, so there's sense of
connection between food and them. Part of the reason, it's not that Americans are
like lazy, they're not like, Americans are one of the hardest-working people
in terms of hours that they work. It just, we don't have a very healthy food
culture and things that we eat. We put a lot of shit in their bodies and I think
biggest thing we could do is have a in their bodies. And I think biggest thing we could do
is have a healthier food and exercise.
I think we will have less medical bills, you know?
But we don't-
Oh, dude, fuck it, 100%.
This whole food thing is to get us fucked up
so we have to take a pill and pay insurance
and pay all this bullshit and go to the, 100%.
100%, that's why I love
that Robert Kennedy jr. is gonna be his maha and this MAGA and a masa make
America skinny again yeah that's that that's the thing I'm a hundred percent
for that yeah I think just waiting away losing weight it's a huge factor you
know yeah I can't believe every time I go to gym or something
and I see people driving to exercise,
these motherfuckers have to park there
called Closest to Gym.
You're going to exercise, right?
Why don't you just park farther away?
Like, I don't, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's just a really weird attitude, like.
It's a funny thing because now when I do park,
oh, speak of fucking...
Oh shit, hang on one second.
Are you in trouble?
No, I don't know.
It's my wife.
Hello?
Hi.
Hey, Max.
Hi, Dad.
Hey, I'm doing a podcast with Yoshi.
Remember Yoshi?
Yeah.
Wait.
Is it like that Asian dude?
That's your son.
That's a perfect one. That's him. Okay. Bye Yoshi.
Hey the Puerto Rican guy. He said hello. Oh yeah hey it's the Russian guy. No he's Japanese,
Korean. Same difference. I just want to call and say good night. I love you kid. See you
tomorrow morning. I already have all my checklists. You did your checklist great and tomorrow I love you kid
Your checklist great and tomorrow was a 23 push-ups 24 push-ups in 24 setups
To what 30 come on dude all right 30
Max
Yeah, max you know you're not supposed to say that.
Oh, you're live on my podcast too, by the way.
Oh, shit.
Max!
I can't wait for the end word coming up around the corner.
Sorry, I just had a very intense theme of cod.
Sorry.
Okay.
All right.
What were you listening to?
I was listening to nothing. I was just straight up cracked. All right. What were you listening to? I was listening to nothing.
I was just straight up cracked.
All right, listen.
I will see you in the morning.
Thirty pushups, thirty sit-ups.
No, you know what?
What?
This is what I'm going to do every day is ten more.
No, dude.
Let's not.
I'm fifty-four.
Tomorrow's thirty, and then the next day's forty, and then the next day's fifty.
All right, listen. Let's's do let's take it a bit
Let's do five
five
Five push-ups no five more a day not ten
Come over you and find you and put you in a headlock
Listen, I love you buddy. Wake me up in the morning. All right, I put it on you to wake me up
Yeah, all right. I'm just gonna watch Trump for a minute.
Trump? Get out of here. Goodbye. I love you. Goodbye.
I'm not joking.
Get out of here. You can't watch. Listen, no politics.
Trump, Trump, Trump.
No politics.
Why?
Because you don't...
I meant Yoshi and you were watching it right now.
No, goodbye. I love you. Goodbye. I'll talk to you later.
Bye, say goodbye to Yoshi.
Say goodbye to Yoshi, I'm hanging up on you.
Pause!
Chill!
I love you.
I love you.
Yoshi, I don't know when I'm gonna see you.
Okay.
Maybe next time he's in town or come over for dinner. Yeah.
All right. Bye. Bye. Funny kid. Yeah. He's a good kid. That's perfect.
Yeah. He doesn't. It's so funny. He, he'll watch like something with Biden. He'd be like, yeah, Biden. I'm like, okay. And then I'll watch something on Trump.
Trump. I'm like, yeah, whatever you want to do. I'm like, dude, you don't know
anything. I go do yourself a favor. Don't get involved in any of this shit.
It doesn't matter who people vote for.
None of that matters.
You know what matters is poor people and rich people.
That's what matters.
Poor people and rich people, it's class.
I just hate hearing people call Trump fascists and Nazis
because they haven't been overseas.
Believe me, I've been to police states.
These people have no idea what they're talking about.
Tell me what, explain yourself.
Explain what country?
Tell me the country.
Well, I mean, I was the last place that, well, I'm going to Ukraine January 1st or 5th, but
I'm going to Madova and there's part of Madova is under a Russian control called Transnistria
and I went across. I mean it's in the Madoba so I didn't think I have to bring my passport
because I already got into the country. Fuck.
It looked like a scene from Red Dawn. As we were driving across the freeway, the cops, I mean the taxi drivers said,
stop filming. So we keep driving. And when we crossed the bridge,
holy fuck
Russian flags everywhere Russian takes Russian soldiers and it was completely
different vibe I mean that's area just go protected area or something like that
under Russians they could call it whatever they want but it's it's they're
occupying part of Madhava you know right no you can't even joke around there's
nothing funny I mean they're funny but you can't even joke around there's nothing funny I mean they're
funny but you can't say that to front of their face you know they start yelling
at me in the Russians to get the fuck out you know you don't have the password
just right back you turn you know they made you go back yeah my friends are
they're Moldovans so they didn't have to do that but um yeah you know you you
really feel feel that that sense of not freedom yeah. I mean when I was in Cuba dude I felt the same thing.
It was like you can't like we didn't film everything because if we film somebody like
exchanging money or get caught they'll go to jail for 10 years. Yeah. And there's not
even a you can't go hire a good lawyer and get out of it. You're just going to jail.
The government will just put you in jail.
Or they'll release you,
you got to the point where you're dying.
Just like that kid in North Korea stole something
and they sent him like a vegetable.
Remember that a couple years ago?
No, who was that?
Was that an American kid?
There's an American kid.
Oh yeah.
He stole like a poster or something.
Yeah.
And then he, within two years he came back,
a year and a half, comatose,
and within a few days he died, you know?
Yeah, I mean, people don't understand.
They say this country sucks, and blah, blah, blah.
They don't know what the fuck they're talking about.
They have no fucking clue,
because they've never been out of this country.
They've never stepped foot into a country
that doesn't have freedom, that doesn't have resources.
And this country is so good, the fact that you can sit there, burn the flag, tell people, you know,
fucking spit on people, and say whatever the fuck you want without anything happening.
People in Cuba, if they talk against the government, they go to jail.
If they say anything against Fidel or the government, they go away. Late 80s in East Berlin, you get caught. The families are like tailing on each
other and stancing your picket. The secret police were taking you and you're gone. You
disappear forever. You go away. You're gone. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I mean I
travel a lot, but one of my favorite places, Bobby, is front of the White House.
And the reason I love the front of the White House,
I've been there.
It's great because it's one of the most important property, in my opinion, because
when these dictators come to United States and talk to the president,
there's a scene where they walk across the front of the White House.
It's the few times that dictator citizen living in the USA will go there and say,
fuck you to that guy, because that would never happen in that country you know. Never. We allow
that shit. We allow people to say fuck Trump, fuck Biden, fuck errors. It's the
greatest thing and when these people recently New York Times want to change
the Constitution and get away these guys are scumbags. Yeah. This is what make this
country so great. They don't they really don't understand how lucky we are.
Absolutely lucky.
The fact that you can sit there and say some, you know, fuck Trump, fuck the CIA, fuck the government,
fuck the president, whoever it is, and not be just taken and never seen again.
And that happens a lot around the world. And that's the
norm ladies and gentlemen. Yeah. America is not the norm. It's the most unusual
situation ever. Yeah. So I think that's why I get sick and tired of these people.
You know like I have friends. I can't I can't I didn't vote for Trump. I don't
I mean you know just I didn't buy I just don't I didn't vote for Trump. I didn't vote this election.
I guess you didn't need to.
But I just don't like...
You know, they were saying stuff about Trump or whatever.
They read the media. It's clear.
I mean, they're just literally going after him. Yeah. And like I went to his rape
case. You what? I'm sorry. Jean Caroll right? She accused, Jean Caroll accused Trump. This
is why I love you. Who would ever take an afternoon to go to a rape case. You went to Trump's rape trial.
Opening night, when they were selecting jurors and I went there to the...
How did you get tickets to a rape trial? No, you just go there first, you know, standing
in line you could get in. Like getting in the new iPhone?
I wouldn't do that shit. I get it from my nephew makes him switch up anyway. But, but, but like my friends who hate him keep saying he's a rapist like no, it's a
defamation case. In defamation case, all you have to prove is 51% probability that something
happened. Right. Even even those judges will tell you there was no vaginal penetration,
not nothing like that. But all you have to do is like be vague and spread that information also everybody saying his rapist
He didn't rape anyone what happened? I?
Mean she I think if I remember she claimed during department store, and he raped her supposedly
Middle of the afternoon, that's a hard. That's a hard rape. It's absurd. That's a crazy situation
Sorry, I'm not saying I didn't mean it like that.
I'm not saying- I didn't mean there was easier ways- I'm not saying you can grab her tits or ass or something like that.
Right. But I'm just saying part of the reason why so many black men voted for him I think
because they've been in situation, they've been accused or convicted and it's something they didn't do.
Yeah. You know it's a hearsay or just somebody's just proving to the juror like 51% probability now
It's not a criminal conviction because you know that standard you have to clear to convict somebody
It's fucking high and they know that so you go several suits, you know, but I remember I over him like I mean
I'm not saying this is why he said but it sounded like when you know, he's saying it low enough that
Was he there? Yeah, I sounded like he was saying it low enough that they hang here.
Was he there?
Yeah, I was sitting there.
I was in that room.
I think he was saying like, this fucking lying bitch or something like that.
Oh really?
Yeah, because let's say she's right and she's rightfully angry at him, but let's say he's
innocent, never met this bitch.
Of course I'll be sitting in the same center, this fucking bitch.
And now she's just like a famous going to different events getting paid money to speak she didn't
particularly have a career writing books and things like that she might be telling
truth I don't know because you never know exactly what happened but you know
I'm just saying like oh it take is somebody telling better story improved a
51% probability that something happened like and then that's what I mean yeah
and like I'm sitting like I didn't know that you know so anyway when my friends wives are saying stuff like that like I
Don't want to lose my friends friendships. I keep my fucking mouth shut, but like you know everybody read
Whatever the information confirmed their vices right, but when I when we grew up when we didn't have
Algorithm we go to library we didn't have an algorithm. We'd go to the library, we'd pick a magazine and newspaper.
So what I used to do, because my family's poor,
I didn't have any money to do anything,
I'd go to the library from magazine A through Z,
spend all day because I don't have nothing to do.
Look at all the magazines, just read them.
Right.
So I have general information,
but I don't know anything in detail.
But speaking of rape
I'm sorry what a segue two things speaking of rape I have to make sure
Max doesn't call again speaking of rape good
December 18 1920 this year I'm going to Avignon, France, because there's a big court
case. It's called Mazin, rape case. There was a guy, he used to knock his wife out with
a drug, so she passed out. And for the last 10, 11 years, he will bring like 50 to 90
guys and rape her and film her.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, it's a big rape case in France.
I'm going to go for that one.
I don't speak French.
I'm still going to stand in line and go in.
Because here's the thing.
I don't speak language, but I understand violation.
I understand outrage.
This lady, Giselle, I forgot her last name. Sorry, I haven't slept much but Giselle she's so brave the court and
judge in France give her option make this private court so that public don't
have access and she said fuck that let them hear everything right let them see
all the video yeah the reason why it's been dragging from September to
December is because there are so many rapists
They can only charge five to seven guys per week. Oh my god
So it's gonna drag until like December and I as someone who is like you were saying like a porn weird weird porn guy
Some of these guys are making out again like well
I didn't rape her because I thought they were playing a role like she pretend to be asleep and
They're playing a role like a fetish or something like that. Here's the thing. When you do porn
scenes, you know, you, you have sex with a girl, a lady and then like you ejaculate on
her face. After we should say thank you because you did a work. She consented. No problem.
It's a job. It's a job. And all the stuff, you know, all the stuff that you do Yeah.
Is set up.
Performance art, whatever.
It's performance, yeah.
So if these guys are making argument like,
they thought was fetish,
you're not supposed to talk during the scene,
then it's strange because Mazan's a very small town.
In fact, she recognized one of the rapists
after the fact where he used to smile at her at the heart the grocery store all god but never saying anything to her you
know because if you knew it was a role and afterwards you were to talk to her
yeah
they can you take an app or something x and hey those of racing or whatever
yeah nobody ever get that because i think everybody knew what they're doing
was wrong yeah absolutely is a solid guys were there? Between 50 to 90, but one guy passed away.
Maybe there's 30 or 40 that they couldn't identify
because maybe they had a mask on or something,
but there's 50 of them.
And we're talking about like firemen, lawyers, doctors,
constructing workers.
See, that's the thing too is like,
how do you get invited to something like that?
Yeah, a couple of people ran out
because it was like an online thing that her husband would knock
her out.
What a piece of shit.
Yes, it's a piece of shit.
There's no question about that.
But there's part of me want to know what happened to him that he allowed this.
And I think sometimes people get mad at me.
I'm not condoning any of it
But if we're going to prevent something from happening in the future what happened to him to make him do that
Yeah, because because then maybe you can find
Other people can be like I these the this stuff is happening to me. I'm not there yet
Let me go get help. Let me figure this out beforehand. Yeah, and I think it's pretty brave of her
You're right to put this out in the public. Yes to expose it all
Yes, I'm one to expose these pieces of shit and number two that believe me
He's not the only one doing that in the world what?
I'm just saying that he's not the only one you seem to follow
Like last time you hear you talk you you really ended up going to serial killers places,
where they went, where they killed.
I went today.
Where'd you go today?
You're fucking nuts, that's why I love you.
Rex Hellerman's house.
Who's that?
He's the Long Island serial killer.
Oh, the one that you just caught a few years ago.
Yeah, I went to his house today.
Why?
Because I have a couple friends that,'m going to surprise them with a gift.
I stole something from their yard. Not stole, but they had stuff. Rocks or they had this...
Earrings?
A finger? No.
Yeah, so I had to take a Long Island railroad to get over there.
I took a picture of the place. I kind of freaked out because his wife was there.
The vehicle was there. So I don't want to make it too obvious you
know so really so I got a couple rocks there's a funny comic named Cam Patterson
this one killed Tony show he clipped rocks so I got a rock for him from the
serial killer's house you know I mean he's a nice kid you know he's very
successful and he'll say hey you are you hungry you want to get your choose
he's headlining but he's still nice enough to go and do that kind of stuff
for you.
So you're going to give him a rock.
Rock at the Syracuse house.
So I got him a rock.
Such a sweet guy.
And then.
How thoughtful.
But that guy killed, I don't know, half a dozen women and one Asian transgender person
in the, uh, low island beach.
How was he killing them?
Strangulation, I think. So how would he get them when he just with their own
like a jogging trail is none and then there's a good dating app or something
there are prostitutes and then uh...
they show up in this place is and he's so massive
once he grabbed you it's over for these women because they're tiny beautiful
girls night
and he would just grab them and strangle them in
his car or at his place? Or in the beach. Yeah, they might have been in the house because
I think when he got arrested like a year and a half ago, they went to his house and found
a bunch of shit. They had a serial killer in Austin last year when I went. They were
killing guys. So they're claimed because either there's a serial killer or these drunk guys keep falling into a lake and drowning too.
I don't know if, maybe they caught somebody.
I know, I'm pretty sure there's one in Portland because they found half a dozen women.
What?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
They were finding these women in a strange circumstance, not overdosed, but they're dead
like last three or four years. It must be and I I mean, how do I say this?
It must be so hard
To be a serial killer now with the technology that everybody has well
Especially young serial killers because they don't have a good housing. You don't have a basement to murder people anymore
That is a housing crisis kind of is preventing Sarah. I'm not joking, I'm just saying.
You need to have a basement to murder people, right?
You could have a car or a park, I think.
I think at any given moment, there are probably like 30 to 50 of them, but then it's like
a friend's asking, how come we don't catch them?
Just like there are so many books, podcasts, documentary, reading material that explain to us like more people know about
serial killers, here's the thing, they also read those books too. So they know like Bill
Billichick's defense, they will counteract by not trying to get caught, right? So there's
a lot of that. And also there's people with theories that they do they're not really serial killers in the
traditional show because they know that they get caught so they do this one-off
they just do one murder. But isn't that like serial killers like that's that's
the thing with them is they do one it's almost like sex. Yeah like compulsion.
Okay well it's like when you okay you have sex for the first time and then the next time you do something a little different
Yeah, and then the next time you let her you know you play with her butt
Yeah, and the next time she plays with your butt and all of a sudden now you just got stuff in your ass
Yeah, you know I mean and you just start doing crazier and crazier shit
Yeah, because it's the fear like the first time I had anal
sex with a girl, I was so afraid of it. It was like weird. How big was a strap on? It was her.
No, no, no. I told you, I, I, there was one girl in my life that wanted to do a strap on to me.
And she was- Hi Jimmy. No, no, no. I said girl. Okay. I didn't say queen. No,
she was like, I want to fuck you. I was like, okay. She was like, no, I want to get a strap
on and fuck you. Yeah. I was like, oh, I heard you. Yeah. I said, okay, I got it. And she
was like, all right. She wanted me to get it. I'm like, I'm not buying it. Yeah. Then
she wanted me to pay for it. I'm like, I don't want to pay for it either. I'm a little split.
You're already fucking me. Like I have to. Yeah. And then I'm like, I don't want to pay for it either. I'm a little split. You're already fucking me.
Like I have to, yeah.
And then she was like, well, I get to pick it.
I'm like, no, you don't.
No.
Yeah, we were going Dutch.
I'm picking the size, whatever.
And she was like, whatever.
She never did it.
She got mad at me.
But you know, like the first time I had anal sex with a girl,
it was so weird and like dangerous.
But after that, it was almost like I desired it
Where's a guy this is what I so like serial killers. I think I think
I
Understand what you're saying you you're saying in a in a very similar
Logic because I think
Historically, you know when authorities or or parents are catching kids doing stuff like that, they make a mistake by saying they'll grow out of it.
A lot of them do.
The ones that don't, it's a big concern.
Like, you know, maybe you had anger management issues, right, growing up.
I did too, and I still probably do.
You know something's more important than fantasy? Fantasy management in my opinion because these kids who have a tendency to become a serial killer and if they're not
serial killers they're very successful CEO that are psychopath and fire 10,000 people
just literally fuck them over right? And I think fantasies are, I think in my opinions, like coping mechanism.
And then to enhance it, you have to inflict pain to make it more
vivid, you know? I think whether psychopath person running for
President of the United States because they have the terrible fantasy or serial killer or business person, you know.
It's like if you catch it early on, you have to deal with it.
Like Dennis Rader, who is the one of the most unusual and vivid serial killer.
What was he?
BTK, buying, torturing, kill.
Oh yeah, that guy was fucking crazy.
Crazy, and not only that, he broke so many rules of traditional serial killer because they what well they see stuff like most of
them cannot keep a job he did most of them cannot have a wife and kids he did
he was also like the president of a church and things like that so like if
you watch mind hunter season one and two they will sprinkle vignette of him during
something throughout the two seasons and and the guys who were working at the Behavioral Science Unit
at Quantico will say stuff like, well serial killers don't do this. What's full
ironic and anybody who is savvy watching the show, BTK is breaking all the rules.
You know I think the idea was when they're gonna have season three and four
kind of reveal like he's the most unusual serial killer
because he stopped killing few years in between in that thirty year span because
he got caught twice by his wife but also he didn't like the fact that he's urge
is trying to control him so he's true during this like a jedi move where no i
control you the kept up controlling part you. So he was one of the most unusual ones.
You think he watched shows or FBI,
like went and said, OK, these are the things?
He read all those books.
So he read all those things.
When he got caught, there was a lot of serial books.
A lot of these pulp fictions, crime magazines,
where Seljukos love reading about how people are committing crimes and things like that. uh... you know a poll fictions you know crime magazines where cellulose
love reading about how people coming crimes and things like that
you think you watch that stuff and learned about that what not a person
hundred percent
it also because these guys like stand-up comic comparing to other legendary
serial killers
and trying to outdo them to you
and he i think he's to get jealous at uh... son of sam because
some sent kill people in europe think he used to get jealous at Son of Sam because Son of Sam killed people
in New York City.
He's going to get huge press.
Just like John Wayne Gacy in Chicago.
He's in Wichita, Kansas, you know.
He was basically saying, what the fuck do I need to do to get my name out there?
He wrote a letter to the local television show.
He was like the rich boss of serial killer.
I got to, what the hell do I got gotta do? I'm playing the B rooms,
fucking Matt Rice doing theaters. Really, it drove him crazy. The reason he got
caught, because some guy, couple years before he getting caught, said right, I
don't remember, I forgot the guy's name, but he wrote a book basically saying that
he's probably dead now or in jail
And he was writing book about BTK BTK got so angry that somebody else is gonna take his narrative
that he wrote
Start writing letters to the local television shows again. That's which led to his downfall within a year or two of that really
Yeah, I mean, I'm not maybe I'm not... So his own ego got him back.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's him, Zodiac, all those guys...
But they never caught the Zodiac.
Well, that's a tricky question, isn't it?
Because he got never caught, he might have gone to prison for some other criminal.
But he never got caught for those murders.
No. I mean, you know, there's
a new documentary on Netflix and they have a theory that this Alan guy, Lee Alan, I forgot
the name, but no, you're right. They never got him officially. Yeah. Who else haven't
they caught? Well, the biggest one is Chuck the Ripper, but I was like 19th century, right?
Yeah, but don't they don't they have a theory about that too that he was
He was a doctor in the area or something like that. Didn't they figure stuff out?
That's interesting you say that because they say that same thing about black Dahlia murder in California
because when they saw the laceration of that girl getting her head chopped off,
it looked like it was cut by somebody with precision,
like surgical precision, you know?
And then, of course, you know, we never really find out,
we never really had official somebody getting arrested
for those crimes, you know?
But I wanna make clear, I don't study serial killer stuff because I enjoy murder and stuff like that. It's it's a variant of a
fantasy right just like
Chairman Mao Hitler and
Stalin all had a fantasy too. They were murdering people not in a sequential like serial killing thing, too
You know when you don't manage fantasy this is the work you know you may have plenty of show business people with
fantasy problems you know it drives people crazy. So no because I you know I
was talking with again therapy I bring that up a lot but you don't want your
son to get into entertainment business do you? I do not. Yes. You don't why? Why? I mean I don't think it's healthy for kids man
or anyone. I think music, I think acting, this fantasy business, I think theater. Yeah.
I think it's a he's in a play now I was you know reading lines with him last
night. Yeah. It was kind of cool to I love that. We were doing his lines last night. He's playing Mr. Martini in It's a Wonderful Life.
Oh wow. And he was doing the lines. I was like you should do it with an Italian accent.
Which character is that? He's the Italian guy. In the movie? Yeah, in the movie, It's a Wonderful Life. Okay. Yeah, what am I gonna do, you
know? Oh, that guy. So I was like, I was like, you should do it with an Italian accent. He's
like, how? I was like, you know, I gotta go to the bank tomorrow. How am I gonna pay that,
you know? And so it was just... You didn't want him to play the Mr. Potter? Well, no,
he didn't book, he booked Mr. Martini. He auditioned. Oh, okay. So that's
the role he got. Yeah. And it was just funny to see him just go, what am I gonna do? And
it was like, I go, buddy, it's gonna be uncomfortable and weird to do that. Yeah. And it feels weird.
But if you can just let go of your inhibitions of it, and just have fun. And it's okay to
be a little silly and.
And can I say something?
This is a great thing because whether he pursue acting
or not, this will translate into when he had to make
public speaking and entertaining himself.
And it's great for a leadership role.
And I think it's great to take chance when you're young
to do as many different kind of things
because you keep doing that long enough,
you're gonna find something you're good at. Well well the thing I keep what I said to my wife
I go whatever he's into
We get behind
You know what except for porn no yeah, no porn yeah, no no god forbid
And he's he's he's getting to that age where he's thinking about sex.
Yeah. Normal.
No, it's fine. He's 11. He's a boy. I get it. But I've had talks with him about porn.
I was like, listen, and I believe this. I go, the porn you're going to see is abusing women.
Because it's just, I go, what's going to happen, Max happen Max I go you can look at girls
and fantasize I can't control that you like girls he likes girls he thinks
girls are hot he wants you know he talks about girlfriends all that shit but
doesn't know say I go if you watch porn it's mostly abuse it's women being pushed
down and held down and forced and blah blah blah wait what's the name name of
those movies well it what happens well to- What's the website?
Well, with Porn when we came up,
you could go to a Playboy
and you see a little boob and a little bush.
You could get a penthouse and see a little real vagina.
It was very, very campy back then.
Very campy and you kind of eased into it.
They didn't have that, the movie thing.
And even when they did go into VHS tapes,
to get one was so difficult.
To watch it was really difficult.
Now it's just on your phone and it, so the spiral goes so fast, so you click on one and
then underneath that, click on, and then all of a sudden you're into some fucked up shit
and it's just clicking.
It has no regulation as far as when we came up and porn
magazine titties Playboy remember that thing I said like all the medical service available to us that we didn't have 1200 1500 years ago
These kids are seeing some of the most beautiful women in span of 10 minutes that none of these kings have ever seen in
In their lifetime the women didn't look like that back then, you know? And I think too much of that, it's like binging television show, right? But you're
binging porn. You're just too many beautiful women and things like that. And I think, uh,
unrealistic expectation of what you should look like, what the girl looks like,
how you perform and things like that, you know?
Well, it's also too, it's like, it's too much.
It's all of it.
And it's not even like, when we watch porn,
we had to watch the movie.
You had to watch the boring beginning and the setup
and the thing and the dialogue and then you-
Bobby, you don't have to tell me,
I used to work in that fucking thing.
Right?
Now it's just the clip. It's just the part of, you don't have to tell me. I used to work in that fucking thing. Right? Yeah, yeah.
Now it's just the clip.
Yeah.
It's just the part of...there's no connection to it.
One advantage of what I did, because I think for most 99.9% of people outside of the business
has never worked, you just fast forward, what's the part you like you masturbate and done,
you know?
Right.
But I was kind of forced to watch the whole thing.
And I think one good thing about that is
Especially when they're talking, you know behind the scenes things like that where I still have to watch everything right and I think
when they're having really good conversation because if you work in the business you see naked people all the time or you go to like a
Place they're filming the actual thing
You get kind of numb like I get tired of seeing
that shit because you see it all the time, you know?
Like literally, I was always worried working at the Evil Angel getting caught because everyone's
no one when they're not looking.
I'll watch Pixar movie, you know, like hide it.
Fucking nerd.
I watch that kind of shit, right?
Because then I'll get, I get fired.
My life has always being reversed.
Like, if you get caught watching porn in most jobs, you're fired.
My job is to watch the fucking porn.
So I have to listen to podcasts or watch like Pixar movies, you know?
Toy Story 1, 2 and 3 and 3 always make me fucking cry.
You know what I'm saying?
Because if you watch too much porn, you get sick of it.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's like eating great sushi every single day.
You're gonna get sick of that too, you know?
It's like going to a nude beach.
Yeah, eventually you get used to that.
After the first hour of seeing this lady's tits next to me,
it didn't affect me at all.
Yeah, hi mom.
First hour, yeah right.
First hour was awesome.
Yeah, I mean, we do place a lot of stuff a lot of I just think porn now is just too much
It's it's too much. But what I think I might have been one of the last one working the business were behind the scenes where
My stupid friend Aiden
He's an idiot, but his friend of mine
He's one of the first one to have a really long behind the scene where after the girl
does the scene, they're sitting in the couch, she's fully clothed and they talk.
What I really like about those behind the scenes stuff is that they're most naked when
they talk about their life, you know?
Because you see the naked shit all the time and porn hub is so available.
You don't really get to know these people, right?
Like the way I did.
What was that TV show, the porn, Mr. Butts or something?
It was a Showtime show?
Oh, Seymour Butts.
Seymour Butts.
He used to have gym, workout.
My boss, John Staliano aka Buttman rent his gym
filming porn
Adam Glasser aka
feature Cimo Butts
why am I doing
physical fitness I should get in porn
and that's how he got into porn business
Really? Cause he had a gym
He rent that room when my boss was filming
What ever happened to him?
I think, I don't um he had like a TV show showtime yeah a couple seasons showtime he did his uncle was
working with it his mom yeah remember his mom was working too and he Taylor
Hayes was one of the most beautiful women in that business vivid girl yeah
he got her pregnant if I remember yes his secretary wound up being his
girlfriend wound up getting yeah Warren and one of the girl that he was Alicia He got her pregnant if I remember. His secretary wanted to be in his girlfriend, wanted to get in his horn.
And one of the girls that he was, Alicia Claus?
She was one of the crazy wild ones.
I'm not very proud of it, but I remember she put her lollipop in a prissy and asshole and
threw and I was lucky boy that got it and of course I stick it in my mouth.
I'm going to throw up.
You always throw up when I took you to that uh
The milk shit remember that that tattoo parlor we stuck a milk in this girl's asshole and she shut it out
You almost threw out. It's the fucking I call that Wednesday
You desensitized all that stuff. I got so used. I mean I used to mop those booths in the porn shops
You know so you were a jizz mop guy?
I told you that before Bobby.
I forgot that.
I think I buried that out of my brain.
When they had a...
How much does that pay?
Not that much.
Do you get tips?
But it's like when you start, it's like when you start in comedy, you have to do all the
shitty open mics, right?
That was my porn open mic where I had to mop those booths, you know.
Was it, was there anything other than jizz in there?
Blood, shit, piss, syringes.
Sometimes they pass out and their hair is stuck on the floor.
Must throw up.
Get the fuck out.
Oh God.
So now moving on from this,
I just got to talk to you about these other things
because you're-
Oh, and then another rape thing I'm going is May 5th, 2025, the big one, the Super Bowl of all,
it's a Southern district, boys and girls, May 5th, Cinco de Mayo, and also known as Boys' Days in Japan,
is Diddy's court case in May 5th.
That's what I wanna say.
I'll be fucking be there. Believe me, motherfuckers.
You're going to the big one. I'm gonna stay in line, yeah. I'm gonna get there on May 4th to I'll be fucking be there. Believe me motherfuckers. You're going to the big one.
I'm gonna stay in line. Yeah, I'm gonna get there on like May 4th to stay the night. And that's the-
May 4th was just like Star Wars night. So, may the force be with- No, I'll be there night before
and stay in line. That's the Super Bowl of all this shit. I want to know because I think-
What do you think- I mean, who's going down with him? I mean, they're trying to get Jay-Z and Beyonce. I mean, JLo's scene, they're
putting everybody with him.
Can I tell you a quick story? It's a little long, but can I tell you a story that kind
of...
Fuck yes.
Okay. When I was 12 and 13, one of the teachers was talking about the story of Invisible Man, right? And I thought,
oh, that's an interesting story, you know? And then I got the book. I didn't realize
there's two books, The Invisible Man, where the guy is a scientist and becomes invisible,
right? And there's another book called Invisible Man, written by Ralph Ellison, African American
guy, writing a story about this unnamed black character
who is seen socially invisible by white people.
Well, I get that fucking book, I'm reading it,
I'm getting angry because I'm saying to myself,
when is this black motherfucker's gonna turn invisible?
He fucking doesn't, right?
So like, I got the wrong book.
There was interesting part in that book.
There was a scene in the book when this unnamed black protagonist, great guy, he's going to
college or something and he's driving this like mildly racist rich white guy for this
college right?
So they're driving around, they get lost and he's driving to this farm where this black
pariah, like even in the black community this black
Characters like Sean by everyone why his name is mr. True blood
The reason why other black people shun him is because they have a small house. They have one bed
He actually got his daughter pregnant
So, you know he he got his daughter. How do you accidentally?
It's dark so they were sleeping and I think his daughter got scared and
just sneaking out of the night and it's in the book I mean I don't I'm not
making this up but he got the his daughter pregnant. Here's the interesting
point. This racist white guy was just wowed by this guy. And like amazed, maybe a little disgusted, but amazed.
And everybody knows incest is a white man's game.
And this motherfucker is the Michael Jordan of a child fucking, right?
This white guy was so wowed by this guy, give him money.
And even though everybody hates black people,
because he did such a big perverted thing,
all the powerful rich man in that town supports him.
And this black guy, even though he's shunned by black people,
because he got this perv thing as a currency,
he know how to manipulate white people,
and he's using it as an advantage.
Well, that's what Diddy did the same thing.
You could be
talented music, you might be black, but if you have enough perverted currency, you
could supersede all that and become a powerful person. So whether they're in
music or finance or movie industry and things like that, if you have that
particular fantasy and perversion, you could use it as your advantage.
Do you think P. Diddy parties are his version of Epstein Island?
I mean clearly maybe he had a tendency to want to do those things
but believe me he knows a lot of dirt on a lot of fucking people.
I mean even me knowing certain porn girls and sometimes people call me
we need a prostitute for this famous person visiting town.
I know
a little bit of that and believe me, even at the basic level when you work at a porn
shop in Seattle, there's times like a vice president or Microsoft or Boeing, they're
renting fucking, because remember, you know, they either had to buy a movie or rent them.
So if I recognize them, either they're renting or buying movie.
So I know like, wow, this particular CEO is always
watching this particular porn.
What does that say about you?
So I had that information early on from the 90s.
So when you go to stand up, and all of a sudden,
I'm hanging out with Jim Norton.
He takes me to tonight's show.
They know that tonight's show will like me.
And any time any of the stars say they like certain kind
of porn, they call me. I bring box of porn, I meet these people, right? Then
eventually you make a, you notice like patterns like, oh, this particular star into this kind
of porn. I wonder why. Then I just sat down and speculate. Then I have all the other perverts
at the evil angel will speculate. And then somebody always said like, oh, I bid for this
reason because I noticed he does this A, B and and C. So, like, you could kind of like, kind of point you watch, it's almost
like a credit report.
It tells me a lot about you, you know?
So I think Diddy or Epstein, it could be misdirection too, because there's plenty of other perverts
who use them as a scapegoat and protect themselves too, you know.
This happened all the fucking time.
Well, we've never learned anything about Epstein.
I mean, you got Bill Clinton going there all the time,
you got all these stars that went to this island,
and nothing happened to anybody.
No.
And it's wild, and you got this,
he of course committed suicide, which is horseshit.
He was murdered.
And then you got this woman, what's her name?
Your name is Maxwell.
I was there for the verdict, I was there for sentencing.
But you hear nothing about, she's never...
She's not gonna say anything.
But why is she gonna say anything?
Her father, what probably was also killed Robert Max was, they claimed that he fell out of his ship 30 years ago.
And she said most likely some intelligent agency had him killed.
Like they're useful as long as they get information from others.
Such a compromising information, I think, you know.
But soon as they become even bigger burden, then you have to get rid of them. I would imagine because so do you think P Diddy is a in danger of being killed? I mean, I'm not,
I'm not saying that. But what I'm saying is, it's a complicated issue, because now there's too many
people accusing him like, I know he probably a lot of it. But I don't believe everything.
Well, like Justin Timberlake. I mean, not Justin Justin Timberlake Justin Bieber. Yeah, I mean this kid is you know
Amazing kid because he's going out of way to protect other
Young men and boy, but it's a girl's is like he's supposed to be you know we know pdd's into some gay stuff now
Right I think he's into a lot of stuff I
think and they're saying including maybe that they say that he may be literally
Justin Bieber and took advantage of him and maybe even Aaron the kid the the kid
from Backstreet Boys a little brother yeah and you know and then you got you
know Corey Feldman has been saying look, this shit's going on for years and nobody wants to say anything about it.
And it's kind of whack to me that they got this guy
on all this shit that we don't even know what it is.
And the trial's gonna happen.
And so many people have been to these parties,
to the after after Diddy party,
and we still know nothing about it.
Like, no one else has been charged with anything and are we ever gonna know?
There was a case in Chicago, there was a guy named John Norman, he was like one of
the biggest pedophile and he was publishing a magazine called Odyssey
something, Handy Andy, this like publication, right? And he considered these things like natural nude, nudist magazine.
But really what it was, was it's a publication where he would ship it to his subscribers
where they could traffic young kids or young men and things like that.
Now, he had a mutual friends who
were connected with John Wayne Gacy and possibly Dean Corl aka Candyman down in
Houston. So there was a network of guys receiving this publication. John Norman
went to prison he was still writing the publication in prison. Nobody stopped him.
The reason I'm telling you, twice he was caught with the Rolodex of all the subscribers nationwide,
50 to 100,000.
Both times when they were retrieved, eventually disappeared.
The only reason people got caught, because one time, one of the Chicago, I think Chicago
newscast kind of filmed a couple of Rolodex and their names got filmed.
So those people got in trouble but other than that all those names disappeared
because if powerful people are abusing young men or young girls or other
non-consenting sex they're so powerful that they're not gonna get in trouble
for that so to answer your question with Epstein or J.D. and things like that, even if you get the
less, is this the original, reducted, is it fake or misdirection? We just don't know. The sad reality
is people do get away. But here's a good news. People are talking about it and we're taking it
more seriously. Just like when Jeffrey Dahmer was murdering those gay men and when when Gacy was killing all
those gay men. I don't think it was within imagination for police that men
could get raped and things like that. So they didn't take it seriously and all
the female prostitutes were getting killed because they're social pariah.
Some people even thought like oh you know they're not real people and things
like that. I think that's slowly changing to the point where you shouldn't tolerate
any of that for any level of socioeconomic background and we should protect these people
no matter what. And I think it took them a long time. I mean, we still have problems,
but it's not as bad as like 50 years ago.
Now, going back to this movie, Anora, Sean Baker's movie that was released,
I love having, I love a guy like that because he put six workers as human beings that need to be protected.
And that's the best way to protect all women, right?
And I think it's necessary. And you know what, you know who was one of the original person protecting prostitutes?
Jim Norton.
Jesus Christ.
Whoa.
Hahaha. Whoa. Um. person protecting prostitutes? Jim Norton. Jesus Christ. Well, well, Mary Magdalene.
Yeah, and I think when you illegalize prostitution what happened is, you know,
because I'm from Seattle, even when the prostitute knew the Green River
murderer, Gary Ridgway, they are not going to go to the police because
they're afraid of getting arrested as a prostitute.
So these laws are counterproductive and you don't really protect people.
Yeah, prostitution, I don't understand, like let a woman do what she wants with her body.
If she wants to have sex for money, why can't, like in Amsterdam it's fine, in other countries
it's fine. I think they're worried about pimping out and then like organized
crime taking care of it. But I agree with you, I think you probably
create more problems that way too. Well how does Amsterdam get away with it?
I mean it's not a perfect system either, but I will say that Bobby out of all the
places I've been to all
over the world my personal opinion Dutch women are most confident and sexually I
have high literacy because most countries that go both one of these two
right either pornography is legal prostitution is illegal or prostitution is
legal pornography is illegal but
Netherlands one of the few countries where both of those things are legal and
I think I noticed with the Dutch women they're very confident like they know
what they want in life sex-wise they're not shamed and things like that I think
that's a really really good thing but you there's plenty of places on the
planet where people have a very limited literacy about sex, you know.
And I think it's a very, I think it's a problem, I think.
Yeah, I don't think, I think there's a difference between fantasizing and I don't think you
should be ashamed of your fantasies.
There's a lowercase fantasy and then capital fantasy, which is these motherfuckers have
to murder women and things like that.
Yeah, that's crazy shit.
Um, all right, well listen, we gotta wrap this up.
We've been talking for an hour and 40 minutes.
I'm sorry.
No, I'll fucking talk to you all day, dude.
You're one of the most interesting dudes I know.
When you come back for the Diddy Trial, will you come back on and let us know what's going
on with it?
Sure.
I just want to mention a couple of those dates.
Yeah, I got all your dates right here.
We're gonna mention everything. But one other thing I want to say. I love that Danny just put a
thing on here. We have to do questions though we have questions for you.
Well listen, we have a mutual friend in Austin, John. He's been kind of editing
your clips and always sending you messages and if something happened his
friend of mine he just moved to Toronto. I just want to thank him because
when I was living in Austin, he always provided me a place to stay. And he's a huge fan of you,
all your podcasts, always talking about you, Brian Holtzman, and very critical other podcasts. But
John in Austin moved to, now he's a Toronto John John I guess, but yeah, he messaged your assistants
and then the people who work for you.
He used to edit and send clips for you guys when you had other shows stealing idea from
your show.
John was the one like, this is not right.
And you know, he wrote to you guys.
Oh, is that him?
That's him.
Oh no shit.
Yeah.
So, so I want to just congratulate him.
I'm sad that he moved from Austin. You know, wasn't going well Airbnb business, but he got a job
He's back in Toronto, but he watched everything that you do. What's up, John?
What's up, buddy?
Thanks, so if you ever perform Toronto, hope I'm if you give him a couple hang out
Yeah, I'll give you absolutely get him some tickets
But yeah, he always sent you message messaged you stuff, idea for stuff,
somebody stealing idea from you show. That's John was doing the whole time.
I know you're talking about. I appreciate that. What's up buddy? Now you got dates.
Where are your dates dude? I'm doing Houston and Dallas with Russell
Peters. How's he doing? He won't call me back. Why?
No, I don't know. I don't know why he doesn't call people. I mean, he
was supposed to be in comedy camp and then he had a bail because he had a tour. Yeah.
Which is fine. He wish it happened last year because he could have done it. Yeah. He was
supposed to be in comedy camp. We were supposed to do, we wound up doing it later than we
could and then he was like, look, I got a a call. I want to marry Beth. Beth's telling.
Beth's telling, sorry, marry Beth.
Beth had a bail too, which I'm fine with.
I love Beth and I love Russell.
But I tried to call Russell just to let him, hey man.
He understand, but he's got a lot of bills too, so.
No, but I, dude, 100% get it, love him.
Yeah.
But I called him to be like, hey dude, it's all good, don't worry about it.
You know, let him off the hook type thing, like,
hey bro, you're still.
And I was talking to Brandon, the guy who you work with.
Yeah, love Brandon.
I mean, we didn't even talk about Comedy Camp.
It was fucking crazy.
I don't want to give details, I love that idea.
I can't wait to.
I just can't wait for this to come out.
It's gonna be amazing.
And also I'm doing November, December, January in Switzerland.
I'm doing a lot of...
Not a lot, but I'm doing shows and then podcasting.
Where can people find this out?
What's your website?
I think it's inyourfacecomedy.ch.
I think that's the website.
What the fuck is.ch?
I don't know, it's Switzerland but for some reason it's ch.
And I'm working with a guy named Christian Baker and my friend Harry.
So I'm leaving next Monday to Europe.
Yeah.
How long you going for?
Until late January.
And then you're back here? Yeah. And how long you going for? Until late January. And then you're back here?
Yeah, I'm going, but half the time I'm in Switzerland, other half I'm going to be like
in Serbia, Moldova, Ukraine, Hungary.
So funny dude.
Greece.
You're fucking hilarious.
I mean dude, you're going to be fucking everywhere.
What is this?
That's all the things I sent email.
You're going to be in Buffalo, New York? Oh,
Hadi Mattar. He stabbed Salman Rushdie. So they're doing a jury thing. I want to go,
because I read that motherfuckers broke a satanic verse in 88. I want to be in the room,
sitting those two motherfuckers, one eye, Salman Rushdie, looking at the motherfucker, stab
him. I want to be in the fucking room. fucking room right because I like cringe humor but that's going to be
really awesome so I'm going to that one too and I just got back from Japan for
the Lucy Blockman murder she was murdered 24 years ago by sadly Korean
Japanese one of my people chopped her up to pieces my dad and I we drove from
Osaka Japan to the Kanagawa prefecture. We couldn't find a place because I
didn't have a smartphone. I went back eight, nine days ago. I sneaked into this beach
you're not supposed to go there. Found the cave where they buried the body. It
took me 24 years to get there. And do you take pictures of this? It's in my
Instagram. I kind of freaked out on that one because as I'm getting closer to the
cave I saw a bunch of fishermen cutting up those giant tuna into pieces.
Yeah.
So as soon as I get to the cave, I'm thinking Lucy Blackman's body getting chopped up to pieces.
Like, I took a click picture, I feel bad, let my semi-prayer thing, got the fuck out of there, you know?
Yeah.
Because it's a restricted area. You're not supposed to jump over the fence to go over there but I waited until everybody
disappeared until some snotty kid was fishing I just ran over there climbing
like a monkey you what's your Instagram at Yoshi Ovaashi you have you have to
follow him cuz and I'll put the Rex Hellermans I mean it wasn't that much but I went there today and then yeah
serial killer is one aspect of fantasy but but Bernie Madoff was fucked
thousands of people, psychopathic. You don't have to murder people you could you
could do terrible things to people.. Yeah what he did as a Jew
Fucking over other Jews. Yeah, one guy survived Holocaust and he fucked this guy over. I've worked the stress factory. I understand
You don't have to murder people to fuck people up. Oh yeah, Rich Paz is always talking about that.
So yeah, yeah, so I think I guess I'm really obsessed because
When I look at your son, I want him to live in a better world.
Yeah.
And he's a sweet kid.
Yeah.
And you have to prepare him street smart, book smart, but also think he need to be prepared
for a fairy tale book smart because these fantasy whether men or women and you know
this is your job for your wife because there's a lot of good girls, but there's psychopathic bitches that only your wife will detect and protect your son.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
You know what I mean?
Like you could prepare your son fighting and things like that, but this emotional wound
is even worse sometimes.
And your wife have to be there for him.
She is.
Kind of have to read, who are these bitches trying to ruin my son you know.
I'm gonna tell her tonight, listen you gotta be careful the bitches.
Seriously there are people like that. I just like the abuse of men you know what I mean?
So I think I don't want to stereotype as that all men are bad or women. I'm just saying
there are bad people and I think people have to have this fantasy literacy. And that's why I've been kind of obsessed with all of this because I think it definitely
hurt me. And I think stuff that you were talking about as a kid, you know, my, I'll correct
then we could finish. Part of the reason I never had a good relationship with my mom
because my mom was basically forced to marry my dad. Imagine you're 20 years old marrying somebody that you didn't want to marry, give a birth to me and I am, my face is a painful reminder that she
lost her happiness and things she wanted to do, right? So I didn't have a good relationship with
her and the only people that were kind to me, just accident or environment was, it was always like
sex workers. that's why
I'm really sensitive about them when they get murdered or treated badly you
know because they also think comics were very similar sir somebody you you've
you've ingratiate I mean some of the greatest comics I know love you and oh
I think you've been sarcastic no not at all Richard Pryor grew up in brothel
right famously yeah yeah so I think part of the reason why he is so funny and Oh, I thought you were being sarcastic. No, not at all. Richard Pryor grew up in brothel, right?
Famously.
Yeah, yeah.
So I think part of the reason why he's so funny and raw, because he, you know, he had
a difficult childhood, but there was also people that loved him at brothels.
Yeah.
Unusual place.
Yeah.
We look a lot for unusual places.
Yeah, we do.
Comedians are fucking broken people.
Yeah.
And we find a way out of it.
And I hope, just like one of your close friends, I think,
Gary Goldman did a really good job therapy and things like that.
And yeah, you know, it's weird.
Like, I wish you had more time because I would definitely love to write my one man show with you involved.
I like that stuff because I think it's a different animal, but
it's really uncomfortable because you have to get because you have to get used to the silence.
Yeah, I know. I know. It's hard for me because my comedy is non-stop.
You get laughed all the time and all of a sudden they stop. You start panicking. No, they're so engaged, you know, but it took me about a month to kind of get used to
that, you know? But it's... those Wild Man Show, when it's done well, it's so meaningful. You know,
like Stand Up Communists, they're great, but it's like eating junk food almost. It's satisfying,
but sometimes you don't feel good because some of the funny shit you said it's kind of mean and but when you do Wild Man Show it
really does a number to people in a positive way I think. They see you in
like a really like see you. Well I mean I would like to start maybe working on it
and sending you stuff and maybe you help me out with it because you've written
one. I'm terrible at it and I think you know another thing like especially because your son is gonna be 12 and Edinburgh's
French Fest it's wonderful because I have friends taking their kids so they
have show at night during the day they just spend time with your kids checking
Scotland shit like that right so one month affair and that's a really good
exercise it's almost like Michael Jordan went from basketball
to baseball, awkward but exciting, you know?
You do something different.
Yeah, it's uncomfortable, but you learn something
by yourself and it probably will help in standup too,
you know?
Yeah.
Hopefully I'll...
I'm gonna start writing some stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
I already have a couple things.
I'm gonna start writing stuff and send it to you.
Tell me what you think.
I think that's the thing I'm doing in Switzerland
because they're not really traditional standup comedy audience audience. Yeah. So I will talk a little
bit of the weird stuff that I haven't really talked about. Right. I mean half of that from
the end bro, but other half is a lot of personal stuff, you know. Yeah. All right. Listen, Yosh.
Thanks, Bobby. Yeah, buddy. It's great to see you. See in 2025. I don't know. Oh, yeah, you know after the ditty trial and that's not that far away
I'm well, I'm leaving Monday's you know, I don't come back into the late January January
Should we back in January come back on maybe me you and Norton will could do a show together
Oh, I would love that haven't seen Jim like five six years. Yeah, that'd be fucking great
All right. We got Morris plane, Jersey, the Dojos coming up next week, and then of
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I mean the confidence you had in that was mind boggling.
I mean, just nuts.
He's too young to know Ronald Reagan.
I mean, he doesn't, that's not even Ronald Reagan.
That was just an old guy.
Yeah.
That's Ronald Reagan now.
What do you got there, fucking Zack?
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