Robert Kelly's You Know What Dude! - YKWD #622 | Raanan Hershberg & Brandon Collins

Episode Date: January 18, 2026

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Yeah, baby. We're starting the podcast right now. We're back. You know what dude live. Welcome everybody to the show. YKWD. I started a social media podcast. The back.

The YKWD podcast. YKWD is back again. We're it all started before. What's up, everybody? It's me. You know what, dude? Bobby Kelly back with the You Know What, Dude. Podcast.

Thank you for listening. If you're on YouTube, just do me a quick favor. Hit that subscribe button. like, get in those comments. Let us know who you want on the show. Let us know you feel about the show. I don't care if it's good or bad. Just get in there.

And if you want to actually support the show, Patreon.com slash Robert Kelly, where me and my producer, Joe, we do an extra show. Once a week on Stream Yard, for you guys on Patreon only. And also the questions, if you ask questions,

it's only from Patreon. Patreon fans get to ask the guests live questions on air. And you get it live when it airs. You don't have to wait until Monday or Sunday. Everything is for you on Patreon. Patreon.com slash Robert Kelly. And we're

going to plug our guest today. Joe, who do we got first? Well, we have Ronan Hirshberg. Hey. Here, thanks for having me. You're welcome. And we have Brandon Collins. I think he gave Brandon a little more than you. How do you feel? Give a little

more. He gave a little more like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little ant... A little bit more... Yeah, a little bit of... Yeah, a little... It's like when someone says hi to you. Yeah. Someone else comes in and they're like, oh my God! And you're like, well, that was real.

Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like when I go downstairs and I see like Ryan Hamilton and Keith Robinson. Yeah. What's up guys? I get, oh, hey, how you doing from Ryan? I go, yeah, it's like Estes hello to me and then to like, you know, Ray Romano.

That hurts. I mean, you can't. That hurts. Just push me out of the way. Yeah, dude. I mean, it is Ray Romano. Of course. You could have picked it.

You actually could have picked. Rich Voss. She thinks we're the same person. She just hears the list. We got you guys. Let's plug Ronan first. Ronon. You got your website right here.

You got dates coming up. Oh, no. That's really old. That's old. Okay. So what are you going to plug? Let's plug up. You got to God.

That's from like 2012. Take that down. Take it down. Take it down. Is that a Tumblr? Tumblr? Tumblr. Is that MySpace?

We're all on Punch Up now. I got my special coming out this Thursday night. Wait, wait. When did this come out? This is out now live for Patreon and it comes out Sunday. Oh, it's live. So do both. Right now, live, you want to go check it out Sunday night?

You can go check it out. Yes, it's called morbidly Jewish. Is it Thursday night? This Thursday night. This Thursday, January 15th. 8 p.m. Eastern, watch it live. It's called morbidly Jewish. It's me.

I'm Jewish. I'm fat. I'm yelling. You know the deal. But it's going to be great. I'm very happy for this hour. Watch it live. It'll help with the algorithm.

Go to YouTube.com slash Ron Honour. Very funny, stand. Amazing Joe writer and an amazing roast writer, which I found out, unfortunately. Oh, no. I need you to write for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

For the Joe List roast. There's a Joe List roast? Yeah. Oh, really? It'd be my writer? Sure. Frankly, I should be on the show. Joe's going to, you probably will be.

Joe. Well, I'm going to be riding against myself then. All right, fuck off. And what do you got, my friend? Yeah, I got a drunk black history. We're going on tour starting Sunday, February 1st at the punchline in Philly. Then we're going to be at the Bell House in Brooklyn, New York on Friday, February 13th. We're going to be in L.A. at the Elysian on Saturday, February 21st, and all over the country.

We're going to be in Austin doing a bunch of shows in New York. Tell people a little context of what it is. Yeah, drunk black history is basically, it's this fun, interactive multimedia show where I bring on guests, comedians, experts, radio personalities. I just wouldn't know because I've never been asked to be on the show. Go ahead. No, tell us. Actually, give me context of what the show is. Yeah.

Because I've never been on it. So as a white. I'm sorry. I shouldn't say that. I've never asked to be on it. Oh, as a white. Oh, I'm sorry. No, I mean, actually, we're very inclusive and stuff, but it's like it.

Yeah. You call me a white. I know. I'm with Ben's in 1932. Hey, as a black, tell me what this means. Well, I'll take it. All right. So let's look at this over here.

You can't do it. Yeah, we're going on tour, and we talk about Black Historical Figures and events that we just feel like haven't got enough attention, right? We're not talking about Malcolm X or Prince. We're talking about, like, unknown people. Like, you know. So not the peanut guy. Yeah, you know, George Washington Carver. They did not invent peanut butter.

He didn't get to peanut butter. No, no, no. But he was a scientist. Honestly. But he was a scientist would call it, you know, foods and like that. But then we talk about Lonnie Johnson, you know, the inventory of the Super Soaker. I want to get into some of these with you because. February is coming up fast.

Yeah. And I want to know what not to do. No, no. I know what not to do. You don't say the words. For a month. Out loud.

For 28 days. Yeah. Only in the car. Is the person drunk when they tell it? Usually, you know, we do have some more guests that are like, you know, I don't drink anymore or anything like that. So, you know, we have non-accoholic sponsors and stuff, but the audience is drunk. And so when we bring them on for interactions, like, you know, for games or.

You know, sometimes I break someone from the audience. So I could do it, even though I don't drink. You could do, you know what? You got a little tan thing going on. So I think for the audience, it might be, you might be ambiguous enough or I can make it work. You and I would know the truth. I feel like you being drunk telling black history will get you canceled. So quickly.

That'll be the end of your career. Dude, are you trying to tell the story of Harriet Tubman drunk? Let me tell you about Harriet Lex. When I was a kid, the Italians hung out at Tufts Park and the blacks hung out at Dugger Park. What? There's some history. And guess what? One of those blacks was Bobby Brown. We did this shit. Black history. You think, I'm Bobby Brown.

Like, so you have to be black to be on the show? Yes. Yes. Or Afro-Latino. Like, we've had some Dominicans. No, he's not going to. He's too far behind. Well, first of all, like I say, you know, depending on the right lighting, we can maybe make it worse. You'd have to change my name, the Robert Patrick Kelly from Boston. I mean, my last name is Collins, you know. Yeah. I'm 20% Irish.

Yeah, but this is actually, mine goes back and lineage. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yours was given to you. Yeah. There's a lot given to us. You know what I mean? But yeah, it's a great time.

It's a lot of fun. And we have some incredible giveaways and stuff. Drumblackhistory.com for all the tour dates. Or you can follow me at Proto Blackens. All right, great. And go to punchup. Dot Live slash Robert Kelly for all my dates. You don't need to bring them up at all.

I'm going to be Pekipsy all over the place. Go to punchup. com. We're just going to quit plugs right now, fellas. And, of course, Joe and Paco. Yo, just check out the cheese show on YouTube. All right. You have Paco?

Paco? Hi, Mom. All right, goodbye. Anyways, so listen, I haven't had you on a while. It's been a while. I haven't seen you in a while. Yeah, I never seen you know, yeah. Well, we'll get in.

You seem very mellow. It's nice. What? I'm not like, you feel very mellow. He's chill, right? You lost weight. You're chill, yeah. Years ago, you were a fucking firecracker.

I haven't seen you in a while, too. Well, yeah. You know, it's funny, I've been doing a lot of, I've been doing a lot of work. Yeah? Yeah, because I... Therapy work. You have a kid now. I have a kid soon.

How long? February, I should do. You got a girl. Congratulations. Yeah, yeah, thanks. Well, when you have a kid, you know, there was a choice I had to make that I can't, I'm trying not to bring him up in what I was brought up in. Right, right, right.

Which was the 70s and the 80s, which parenting was different. Yeah. You know, you yelled at, you kid. You get the fuck over. Don't be an idiot. Yeah, stop being a fucking idiot. You shithead, you know, you give him a little whack. I got, you know, I had a, even, you know, I had a terrible stepdad.

But beyond that, my uncles, you know, they try to drown you in the pool and they laugh. You know, it's, you know, it was just a different time to raise kids. My mother would scream and yell. Yeah, yeah. It's just a different time. And I was finding myself as he got older and started to be. come, you know, a little more of a man, you know, starting to raise my voice a little bit, and I just don't want to do it.

I just get, I had to figure out, and I'm still doing, this is the sucky part about it. It affects your comedy career. Yeah. Yeah, it does. Because you're like that episode of Seinfeld where he's pretending to be, he has to be sad, you know, because like George doesn't want him to be funny. It was just at the table, like, oh, another year around the tick. You know, it's just like even.

It is because I, you know, my instinct is, hey, fuck off. And that has done me well. You know, in comedy, being around other comedians. What's your heckler videos now like? You're just like, hey, come on, we're both hurt. Are you okay? You know, I had a bad upbringing. I'm sure you did.

Let's talk about it. On my podcast, we have a discomfort of better hope. I can give it to you right now. Comedian hugs heckler. Well, it's, what's good. The difference, the space between, um, being, you know, being, you know, kind of confident in it and being fuck-go-fuck yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I call it gears.

Like, I have first and sixth gear. Yeah. What's up? And what the fuck are you looking at? Yeah. I don't have second gear. I don't have third and fourth. I talk about this all the time.

I'm trying to find second, third, fourth, fifth gear that I can kind of shift into because I have to. Yeah. Because, you know, it's just, it's for my, my family. and for me, but it's hard to do because I want to murder people in my head. Oh yeah.

I love having arguments out loud with people that don't exist. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? And I win, which I love. I win my arguments.

I'm glad you're mellow. I remember the first time we met in Vermont comedy play. Cross the line. Call me mellow again. I'm gonna fucking show you mellow. You're so mellow. I remember Vermont Comedy Club,

we were in the green room. You were telling a story. Yeah. Something like gentle, like short-haired lesbian improv woman came in. It was like, hey, we all got to start the improv. You were like telling it to me and a bunch of people who are there for some improv troupe. And she's like, hey, we got to start the improv thing. And you just want full Joe Pesci.

What I do? I'm in the middle of a fucking story. She's like, she can't even hear any aggression. And I was like crazy, you know? Well, here's a thing with me. Part of my thing that I, it's a lot of it was Joe, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a lot of it, you know, bust and balls.

Joe Pesci, good fellas. Yeah, that was my way of busting balls for a long time to be like, you know, it's a, it's a tough spot to be in right now. Yeah. Because you either got to, you either got to do it or not do it. And everyone's so fucking sensitive now. Everybody's sensitive. You're walking on eggshells. But I'm also, you're going to understand, too, the older you get, like, I try to explain this to the younger guys.

You're in a stage where it doesn't matter. Comedy, you're in love with stand-up. That's your, I don't care. if you're married or have a girlfriend and you love her so much. You still love the stand-up more than you love anybody else. But then there's a point where you're home one night and you're looking around and your wife's over there on the couch reading something. You just had dinner with your family, your sons, you know, downstairs watching TV. And you're like, I'm fucking, man, I did it.

Like this is all. And you love it. I fucking love it so much. And it makes you grateful and happy, which is gay. and it's not good for comedy. You're happy. Well, yeah, comedy to me is fucking rage and things I hate. So when you start to enjoy your life and like it, it fucks you up a little bit.

Yeah, you basically have to recalibrate to comedy. You have to make it meet you where you're at now. It's tough. And plus, you know, you don't want to even come in the city. You know, that's another thing. I always wondered why guys would just disappear. right? And it's like, oh shit, because they fucking found happiness.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't have happiness and be successful. You really can't. I've met some of the most successful. Like, people I looked up to you who I'm like, man, they have to be happy. Nope. They're more miserable than I am. Yeah, you need...

It's fucking terrified. I think you need a little bit of miserable. You need a little bit of edge, a little bit of fuck this to be funny. You just do. Yeah. Well, you got to have to have like, you're not, you can't be fully well adjusted. Otherwise, you want to go on stage to say this shit. No, I'd go to New Hampshire and fucking make wood carvings and sell them at a festival.

Yeah. Oh, that sounds grand. The whole point of being on stage is you're saying this shit that you feel like you can't get out in your regular life. Right. It's like, it's not going where you're not communicating well in your regular life. I've been teaching stand-up comedy to middle school kids out in Queens. Right. And one of the kids actually said that he's like, I'm able to talk about my.

No, I go to New Hampshire and fucking make wood. Why are we hearing ourselves? Joe? Joe? What? It's done. Yeah, what does that mean? It's done.

That sounds like a threat. I got to go into second gear if I have it. You're scary or mellow now? You're just like, why are we hearing that? You're like, fuck. You got like a Sherrill killer calm, you know? But one of my students said you said that. He was like, I'm able to talk about like my immigrant parents and like what this country,

like how I'm feeling about it and the adults in my life. Right. And I couldn't do that at home. my family fucking slap me for even talking out and sharing my thoughts. As he should for doing that. I mean, he talks a lot of shit about his family. Yeah, I mean, you should. Keep your mouth shut.

This is the mafia. I had to teach my kid that. I had to watch the Godfather those two scenes with Michael and Fredo. And, hey, remember Sonny talked to Friday? Don't ever tell people outside the family what you're thinking. Oh, my God. I literally made him watch both those scenes. Oh, just those scenes.

He didn't make him sit through the movies and say. No, he's not ready. Like a Fredo. Look what happened to him. You see that boat? Because he was yapping about family stuff to people. It's like, dude, you don't tell people about your family. Oh, yeah.

What happens in this house, stays in this house. We deal with it here. We'll always deal with shit here. Me and your mom and you, you can always come to you. You don't go tell some fucking. But who's he telling? Child protective services. I was like, this is between us.

Well, I give my son full range. to tell me to calm down. Uh-huh. Yeah. It was like, dude, just tell me because it's, it's, I just, you know, dude, what I, Dad, bring it down.

Okay? Because if he doesn't, it's, I'm just, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. That's great, though, like, because you're allowing your son to be able to be comfortable enough to say when they feel uncomfortable around you

or something you were doing as like bothering them, you know? Yeah, it sucks because it's, it's, I don't want to raise a, you know, I don't want to raise a fucking pussy. Yeah, you want to be a little afraid of you. Well, I just, I want him to... Even that, you would have said fag in the other day.

What's happened to you? I don't know. I turned into a fag. You're like Samuel Jackson and Jackie Brown. Your ass used to be sweet, man. Oh, my God. And you know what happened to that? Oh, see, you've gone politically correct. Oh, no, no.

I'm still on your side. By the way, Robert De Niro plows out of Bridger Fonda in that movie. And it's... I remember seeing in the theater. I'm like, holy shit. You can come to see your ass. That's a little blurry. Yeah.

What was it two girls and a boy? Right? What is it? What's the most? Jack Brown. Oh, no. I'm talking about Robert Downey Jr. eats Heather Graham's ass.

Oh, two girls and a guy. Two girls and a guy. Yeah. That's one of the hottest scenes. Two girls in a cup. In a cup. That was a good one, too. The Garantino version of that.

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Yeah, yeah. I forgot you guys are movie guys. You guys both went, what? But yeah, that bridge of fun. Not all movies, clearly. But yeah, well, that's, you know, that's good. It's good to be in touch with your feelings and not, you know. Well, look, you're going to have a kid soon.

And it's going to fucking I don't know what's going to do it But it gave me empathy You know It gave me empathy And it gave It's like the Grinch Yeah

It cracks open your heart Heart groove Yeah Well I'm having a daughter So I'm really worried I'm going to have to start Seeing women like people I'm very

Oh no no no No not regular women You can compartmentalize Yeah Just those women You live with You can see these other ones Like dogs

When she told me I was having a Like, she was all, she called me. She's like, we're having a girl. And I was like, oh, great. And she got off the phone. I was about to go on Porn Hub. And then I was like, can I go on Porn Hub now that I'm having a daughter? Yeah, you just can't, you can't type in daughter, father.

I was like, yeah. I could go on. All you have to do is change genres. Well, you also have to worry about, you know, what the chick's like saying, Daddy, Daddy, because it's a little weird. Yeah, you got to cut. There's a lot of porn. I can separate.

I can separate it all. No, you know, because as soon as you watch that and you come with Daddy, you're like, Yeah. What? You don't want to get hard when you hear the word dead. You know what I don't understand about, and I'm not really into the incest porn stuff. Yeah. But you know how they call it like stepbrother, step sister?

Yeah. Well, if they're all just acting, just call it brother's sister. It's not real. Why give it that barrier? No, no. You need the barrier, dude. But the barrier is already there. Why?

They're not really related. Nah, dude. It's porn is going into fantasy. Right. So to go into fantasy, I need that step. Because brother, sister's too gross for me. But if you say step, does somebody, like, they're not... But it's kind of what you really want deep down.

You're just afraid to admit it. No. I don't. You can. Barely legal. No, those are people talking about trachions, though, because if you're a child of your step sister, right, she's not connected to you. Yeah. Oh, she's fucking hot.

But if you see your sister, you know that there's part of you... But then why make it step at all? You need the step, dude. But why? I'm saying, why? What is the into being into a step-sister? Where does that come from? Because she's not my sister.

It's some fucking guy, my mother, married, brought his hot daughter, and now we live together. All right. You know what I mean? I guess that's a scenario. Part of me does wonder, and I'm not into this. I'm not saying I'm into this shit. I had a dream once right sex with my sister. I remember thinking this doesn't count because I can't brag about it.

I literally had that thought in the dream. But I'm not into my sister. I just do think for some people, the step stuff, it must be on a deep level, a little of that. Hang on one second. The incest taboo. Real quick. You don't have your headphones on. Did he say?

Yeah, he said it. Yeah, he said it. Okay, okay. Yeah, what are you going to say? You can't help your dreams, right? There's never been, like, you know, TV or movies where I'm like, oh, those siblings might want to fuck each other. Oh, you know what?

Or I can see them being attracted to each other. Except maybe Lamb, man. Yeah. The brother's sister. That sister's hot. The daughter. The brother's not. Yeah.

You can see him being attracted to his sister, right? I haven't seen that show. but that show seems like the title is what they thought my mom would wrongly call it. What's that show, Landman? Like, it seems like they gave it the wrong title. Old Ladies would, like, commit it. I love the show. Is it good?

It's a good show, but this year, I don't think he, I don't know if he wrote, see if Taylor Sheridan wrote season two. I mean, how could he, dude? He's running like seven shows. Too much. Too much. He can write every script. There's no way.

He has a way of making. women strong in a real way. Yeah. Which I love. Well, now that I have a daughter, I'm really into that. Yeah, I don't like when a fucking woman can beat up fucking five dudes. Right, right, right. I'm out.

Taylor Sheridan, what does it say? Did he write it? Writing an episode, so season two, I guess. He wrote, he wrote? But that might be why it's kind of sloppy a little bit this season. It's a little different. It's a little different than his, but it's still, I love his writing. Billy Bob.

Billy Bob's the best. The show, I love the show. People are trashing it right now. They hate, they're like, I hate this thing. I'm like, that's good. That means you like it. Yeah. Because if you hate something in it, you felt something, and that's what they wanted you to feel. They wrote these people for you to not like them. But they wrote it for some people to like them. Some people are going to find the, you know, the son's romance with this girl, cool. Some people are going to be like, it doesn't make sense. It's stupid. I fucking hate them.

You're feeling something. That's good, right? Yeah. But I mean, it's also like he's putting out so much content. Just be thankful. You know what I mean? Like be, because he's, it's a lot of different stories. and he's a great writer. Hell or Highwater is one of my favorite movies in the past. I love that movie, yeah. It was a good movie. Well, Sicario was great, too. Cicario is great, too.

Win River. Yeah, he teams up with good directors, too. Like, they lock in. His movies are fucking. I really, I'm really into Native American Indians for some reason. I just got in. I've always loved, loved the culture. I've always loved Westerns.

But then there was a time where I was like, wait a minute, I've got to kind of look into, you know what's up well because I started watching his shows and it's a lot of Native American Indian based stuff they always showed that part of their culture and I started

I started reading a book on the Comanchee Indians and there were some tough fuckers buddy I mean people like you know it was it was brutal it was us that were bad yeah yeah not dude not the Camansians these motherfuckers these motherfuckers

it was like they were the little tribe that got the shit kicked out of them for years then the Spanish came here got the shit kicked out by the Pueblo Indians by the way who just made pottery and shit like that and they finally like you know what fuck you kick them out they left all their horses you know all their

and those horses just went out and became you know wild horses the Comanche wound up getting horses and they mastered the horse better than any other Indian they could ride horizontal on the side and shoot arrows as they're riding

so what happened a lot of Indians didn't ride horses. They actually walked with horses and used the horses. They ate the horses. They loved horse meat. You know what I mean? But the Comanches didn't fuck around. And here's another thing that I found out. So when they started riding the horses,

they started dominating everybody. And they became the biggest, baddest tribe around. And then another thing would happen. They would kidnap people and take other tribes because if you had, okay, you went out and got a buffalo, right?

You brought it back to your wife. She scanned it. She made stuff out of it. But if you had two wives, you could get two buffaloes and then get more money. If you had three wives, that's three. So the reason why they kept getting more wives became, it became, a polygamy became a thing with them. It was business. It had nothing to do with the pussy. The pussy probably had a little something. I mean, the pussy always has something to do. But there's, and they. were, dude, they didn't fuck around.

They didn't just, Indians didn't just kill you. They tortured you. Oh, yeah. I feel like they did a lot of castration. They cut your balls in your mouth and shit like that. They would cut you open and put hot coals inside of your stomach. Everything the cartel does, they definitely inherit from the tort tactics. And it wasn't

a white thing either. They did it to the Mexicans. They did it to other Indians. That's just what they did. It was a threat. Well, I mean, yeah, there's a lot of different tribes. Some were peaceful. Some were very, very not peaceful. Some were very, the East Coast was a little more peaceful, but the Cherokees were the baddest motherfuckers around back then. You mean the Comanche?

I mean the Comanches. Comanches, yeah, they did not fuck around. And Taylor writes about them a lot, and, you know, I just love that. I love that whole culture. I love American Indians, dude. There's such badasses. The fact that they, you know, they... They're resilient. Resilient. They just, they figured

shit out. Well, they did all get wiped out. Yeah, we did a good job. We really have. I don't know if resilient communities have been decimated, yes. You know what? Dullion is the correct word. You know what they wiped them out, right? The, the, what, you talking about the smallpox?

No, no. No, the repeating rifle. Once we got the, we were actually shooting them with, you know, you know, you had a fucking flint and shit. Once we got the Henry Repeater, once our, the troops got that where you could load a bunch of rounds, game old. We were just, they were just, you know, fatum, to tomb, we just took them out. Comanches need to get that. Huh? Camanchies did to get those guns.

Oh, they wound up getting it. They wound up getting it. I mean, I, but here's the thing. They would, the Indians would take land from other Indians. Oh, yeah. It's not like, it's not, of course, yeah. It's not like we came here. What happened, we, we conquered the East.

Then we had the Civil War. But then they were, after the Civil War, we were like, oh, we got to go out. The government was like, we need people to go out west and start getting out there. We need that land. So they would send families, just regular families to, we'd get. give you 175 acres out in Montana. You go out there and make a claim. And they

weren't gun fighters. They weren't troops. They didn't send troops with them. They just sent these fucking families. And they would build it. But they were in the middle of Comanche territory. That's a great movie. That's a set up for a movie. Like a family's navigating out there. I think it's happened. I think Taylor Sheridan wrote in the last

five minutes. He wrote a whole He just chugged the coffee. He was like, I got it. It's, um, he's, I'm reading this book. Um, I'll tell you the name of the book, by the way. Here, let me just get to it. It's, um, yeah, Empire of the Summer Moon. It's all about the command. Oh, yeah.

But he's actually, he's, he's directing that movie. It's going to be sick. Okay. Yeah. Well, the last movie he directed was that Angelina Jolie movie, the firefighter one. That wasn't great. So, but he's a great writer. He's a great writer.

I think he's a great director. He's like, he's like Aaron Sorkendell, where he's like, he should, to direct his own writing. I think that. Really? Why? I mean, Aaron Strzogh, did you watch the I Love Lucy movie? I hated it. I don't think

I hate Aaron Sturker. I don't think he should write his own writing. Oh, wow. Okay. I was watching a few good men. I don't want to speak ill of Rob Reiner, but he's just like and I think Rob Reiner's great director, but like I was watching a few good men, he just

his dialogue sucks. It sucks. Wait a minute, dude. I got to, listen, you guys know movies. I know you're in the movies. Well, go back. to Native America. I'm not going to go back to that matter. We'll go back. It's like talking to a five-year-old here.

You're like, can we talk about dinosaurs in Native America? We'll go. You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. You think that's shitty writing? Wait, which one? The Jack Nicholson.

The Jack Nicholus monologue. It's completely shitty. Let me tell you why. Yeah, please. Because Aaron Sorkin's view of life is like there's just good people and evil people. And it's so simplistic.

That's my view of life. You'll become an evil one right now. But even there are evil people, but he doesn't even give them the dignity to have any intelligence. Like literally the idea that Jack Nicholson is just so angry, all you have to do is piss him off

and he'll just reveal it all. It's just so stupid. But they set that up from beginning about his character, though. So like it's not a surprise when that monologue happened. The outburst happens. Because that's how he knows he can trip up.

When he sits down at the table with them, when they come to visit him, and kind of peace, you could see that that was happening. And you have to know, but these people exist. Yeah, but these people are simplistic.

But you don't want that in, like, to me it's like a good movie, you see different characters of different views of the world, and they're connecting and arguing, and you don't know who, you can't tell what the writers thinks exactly. You always know the writer's opinion

in Aaron Sorkin. You always know he likes these guys, he hates these guys. And it's just, it's a simplistic way of look at life. But that's what makes his stories, I think that's why he has so much success, though, as a writer.

Of course. Because they're so universal. Like if he wanted to go to the other route, be a little bit more vague, right, about his feelings and his point of view, then it may not be, we may not have a connection with a big man. Most people, those people are bad,

these people are good. Most people have their life like that. But, I mean, most people perceive that way. But like the truth is, life is morally complicated. I just don't think he has that in his stuff. I think.

But I don't go to an Aaron Sorkin script, like, or thinking about moral, you know, I don't go to see vacation in the movie to fucking train. Aaron Sork is not, you know, I mean,

he had people who say, The greatest writer ever. I'm hearing of this into my podcast. I'm sorry. I love it. I love it. A Tom Cruise movie, I know what I'm getting. I'm getting good guys, bad guy.

A lot of running. You've never seen Vanilla Sky then. Okay, don't even give me a star. But that's not his movie. It's not his movie. No, of course. There are definitely good guy, bad guy movies, but Aaron Sorkin people act like he's fucking Shakespeare or something shit.

I'm just saying if you're going to call him that, I just want to say it's a little simplistic. I want to ask you questions. Anyway, this has been your favorite movie suck in front of hers. I want to ask you a question. Seriously, I feel like movies are dying. I feel like they're making

movies for kids now. Yes. Or they're making movies for, they're not making movies that are slow. Like, I would just watch Loadsome Dove. Six hour. I was going to ask you about that

because that's all Comanche's. Yeah. Well, it's more, it's like Robert Duval and Tommy Lee Jones. But again, it's like, it's so, it's so authentic

to the time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I feel like movies now, they just they have to make everybody represented, they have to make women strong, they have to, you know, like that's why I love Taylor Sheridan.

The strongest women on TV are in his shows, but they're strong, and they use their, if they can't beat a person physically, they beat them mentally. Right, right. You know what I mean?

And it's like, I feel like when I watch that movie, it's so authentic to the way people live back then. Yeah. And it's so slow. It takes its time going through the... I know it's a six-hour movie, by the way, but it just takes its time.

Now, movies just don't take their time anymore because people can't watch... They can't pay attention. Can't pay attention. And having to represent everyone can be, like, really distracting in a movie. You're like just like seeing some gay Mexican in Auschwitz or something. You're like, how do you mean?

It's just like it can be distracting. Yeah. Or like, you know... You have a bit of... about the Star Wars prequels, how they're more diverse than the original, which take place in the future? Right, right. It's like, what happened?

Like, what happened to all the brown people, guys? You got, like, something explained it to do. You never noticed that? Episode 1 to 3, like, mad diversity, Samuel Jackson's in there. There's a bunch of black and different kind of Jedi, Spanish Jedi, Asian Jedi, and shit. And then New Hope.

I'll get one. No one's there. Well, it's kind of like, it's crazy. It's called New Hope. It's kind of like with, we were talking about this. When they made the Sopranos prequel, things had become more politically correct. Yeah. So somehow these guys in the 50s were more politically correct than people in the 90s.

It made me sick to my stomach. They were like 1950s, this African-American. Even the friendship between Dickie and Leslie Oldham Jr.'s character, I thought the same thing. I'm like, they would be calling each other all the races. Yeah. They're back close. They're like, all they're doing is going off on each. It was insane.

It was more woke back then. It was. It was. I will say that plot twist with revealing what's his name is the reason who killed Dickie. That was Junior. I did like that. I liked that twist. I had never thought Junior would be the one.

That's the thing. I just watched Boston Blue Bloods. I'm like, oh, great. This is awesome. I love Blue Bloods. But then I'm like, Boston is my hometown. And then I watched it. It's the opening scene.

It's just this little chubby black lady who's the guy. And, you know, she can run faster than Donnie Wahlberg. She has a New York accent. He has a Boston accent. but he's from New York. She's from New York, but from Boston in the show. I was thinking of that, too. He's got a Boston accent.

He's from New York. And then you go to her house. She's gay. Her father's white. Her mother's black. And they're Jewish. They sing the Amozy. They say the Amozy at dinner.

And I'm like, do we have to get everybody in? Well, it's just not. Yeah, it's like every zombie movie when they have the group of survivors in the beginning, at no point during them go, man, we really. really hit everyone in the quota ran anyway. I don't know how that happened, but like, it was all five of us just surviving a house. We got the Asian, the gay guy, the fat guy, the Jew. Yeah, and those groups, let's be honest, there would never be a blonde white woman there.

Yeah. They're all dead. Yeah. You know what it was really, did you see? And there's not going to be a black person that. They ran. Yeah. They're not going to be hanging out in groups.

Did you see the order, the order of the movie's Jew law that came out last year about, like, the, it was kind of based on, it was kind of based on, like, the neo-nazisies and, like, Colorado or something shit? No, I didn't see that one. It was like a movie set in there. 80s. You know, the FBI in the 80s, and there's this really, that, what's your name? She's beautiful. What movie? Well, Marlette's sister. Oh, yeah,

I know what you're talking about. Go to fucking Apple TV show smoke. She honestly looks exactly like it. It's not juicy. It's a fucking... Justine, right? No, it's not Justine. She's got some big knockers on her. She's beautiful. She looks just like a brother. You talk about me with fucking

Indian stories. You guys got big knockers. But she's like... I mean, who's going into the childhood. But she's like the FBI and she's like Journey by the way. Okay, right. She's in the FBI, young hot black woman. She's just bossing around all these old white guys. Yeah. And not one of them is complaining

at any point. They're just like, she's like, what do you fucking do? It's like the 80s. Not one of them is like, who the fuck do you? That's why I like the first episode of Welcome to Derry, the IT TV show. Like this black commander is pretty good. The black commander comes in. Immediately when white soldiers like, I don't fucking, what is all you? I'm not going to salute you. And something later that night. Fucks and bucks.

Just give me the real context of where we were when it was. By the way... It's okay to be racist on a TV show. Well, just show it the way it is. Just show the way it is. We won't like that guy. You know what I mean? Everybody can't be fucking...

Yeah, well, it's not accurate. And that's what's complicated about, like... Because I'm a writer, and I want to write this story about Hercules Posey, who was George Washington's chef. He was like this revered chef. He basically was free, right? But he was a slave under Washington. but watch them let him go about town and Philly and stuff like that.

What a good guy. Robert loves this. He didn't have to be a slave, but he did it anyway. Not that you have to. He didn't have to do that. Get me some tobacco on the way back. But it's up to you. Oh, me, by the way.

Just say my name. And at one point, Washington gets mad paranoid, and he thinks that Hercules is trying to run away. So he basically takes away his title and makes him a field slave. Hercules then runs away and Watson's birthday. So he was going to run away. Yeah. So his instincts were right.

Well, I mean, we were all going to win away sometime. But Washington loses his mind and basically use all these resources to try to get Hercules back. He's not able to find them, but I want to tell the story because it's like the fugitive meets 12 years of slave, right? Right. And Black History is amazing.

But the thing is, Hercules is kind of abandoned everybody. Like, he had a bunch of kids. He, like, didn't, he ran away without them. But that was life back then, right? But to your point. It's life now. I know about to your point, though, it's like,

that was a joke. Yeah. I'm sorry People don't like seeing that You don't laugh at it Dude, I'm just racist You didn't get it He abandoned all his kids

Have you talked to Keith Robinson? I'm sorry, go ahead That's who I was thinking about Hercules But yeah, it's just like Are you saying that Keith Robinson Is the slave Hercules? Be wild If he's that old

I ain't coming back I ain't Fuck you, George What did you explain how angry? Fuck you and, you're dead shoes. But what did that explain why Keith is so angry? Is that he's been hiding for George Watts? The only doesn't even a fucker's dead.

He's like, I'm still out of here. But let me know. Oh, that's a great idea. So you're going to tell the story about what happened him after he ran? The whole escape and stuff, like the... You got to make it up, right? Well, I... Not the escape part, but after what he did after.

There's a decent amount of documentation. He ended up in New York. But that's, like, the last records and stuff like that. But I was able to do enough research to find out... I'm working for Washington to then escaping. But the thing is, you also find out that, like, you know, he had, his wife had died. He had three kids, and he basically just dipped on them. But that, like I said, that's, like, the story of a lot of people in that situation with slavery.

But then the thing is, audiences don't want to see that shit. But I also don't want to make up a story. I don't want to do, like, a fake Hollywood movie thing. He's, like, so loving to his kid. Or, like, his kids are like, it's okay, Dad. You can, like, you don't want to see George Washington as a bad guy. That too. That's true. I haven't even like, yeah, thought about that.

But he was a piece of shit. You'd be doing enough digging. Of course. Was he? Oh, yeah. It's always like I never told a lie. Yeah, but you had slaves. Isn't that worse than lying? I'm not lying.

I mean, like, you know. And the teeth of slaves and all this stuff, man. Back in the day, you know, I mean, back in the day, buying a slave wasn't a thing. What do you mean? Like, it's fucking terrible, right? But everybody, the Romans. But yeah, but.

Every, every, every, every, culture up until we abolished it, had slaves. But there's also quite a few people who were against slavery then. But it wasn't, I bet there was, you know, Alexander Hamilton, John Adams. But before that there were slaves. Of course. There were slaves throughout our

history. The slavery was a commodity, like a thing. Of course. So it's like we came to the realization at one point was like, we're not going to do this anymore, which sucks you know, pulling the band-aid off of that. Yeah. But it wasn't like it wasn't like, you look back in history. It wasn't

just black people were slaves. Jews were slaves. Yeah, yeah. Arabs were slaves. White people were slaves. There was... Irish were slaves. You mean Irish? Irish. I mean, my crest on Donland, my grandmother, our crest is a white man chained to a tree

because they were slaves. Slavery was a thing. It was just a this is what you did. You bought people like you bought a horse. Well, I will say, yeah. Right? Here's how the values are different. Like, back then there were people like Alexander Hamilton and John Adams who were like slavery is evil,

but they would hang out with slave voters. So it wasn't off the table, like it wasn't an end of friendship. That's just politics. That's, you know, you would be friends. Like John Adams saw,

you know, George Washington was a great guy. Look, I mean. And he had slaves. So you, you, it wasn't a deal breaker.

I think Anthony, I think Anthony Coombe is hilarious. I mean, that's the modern version of that. I'm not going to go hang out of his compound. I did go there one time and I peed in his bushes. You did? Yeah,

yeah. Oh, you went down. Remember, back then back when we were doing the show. Then we met Kumiya through you, me and Mike Brown. You weren't you on his network? No, they wanted us on the network. And actually, you fucking warned us not to do it. Well, you didn't say specifically... You didn't say that on the

hair. You didn't explicitly say, don't do that, but you were like, hey, just make sure it works for you. No, I wasn't because of Anthony. It was just... I would tell everybody not to go on a network back in the day. Even Skanks. I remember Skanks. That was stupid. I pretty sure 10% of that for the rest of my life. But no, I was like, dude, do your own thing. You don't need a network. Don't do it. You know what was kind of groundbreaking because he really brought in unironic racism. I feel like every other comedian was kind of like, he was like, no, no, I'm just racist. Well, that was what was so weird about doing.

These black people are inferior. You're like, wow. Is he'll be a racist or he's just an honest white dude? You know what I mean? From all along. Oh, no. There's a lot of racism. Okay.

Hey, it was just a question. Just a question. But that was the weird thing about doing. It was a question. It wasn't a statement. Is he racist or is he just right? Well, that was the honest. thing about doing the show. It was that like we would just talk

about movies. He never brought a race to me. Because Anthony I, you know, Anthony And that felt funny to me. That's why I started. Because Anthony is a good guy. He's a funny guy. But he's, you know, he grew up in an age where he, you know, that's just the way it was. Look, when I grew up in Boston, it was

that way. You kind of evolve. I hang out with a lot of black people coming up. I, you know, started hanging with Patrice and Keith and Dante and Godfrey. And they would kind of, you know, man say shit and let me in on things and as I as I evolved as a man and I got old I was like ah shit I don't know even Billy would say things to me and I'm like I get it I it's it's like it's not

worth it like okay it's it wasn't worth it to me to make somebody feel shitty about something like if it's funny it's funny okay but some things it was like I dude I'm hurting my friend's feelings I don't want to do that I don't want to hurt my friend's feelings yeah I just don't want to do it maybe when I was younger I don't give a fuck Maybe as I got older I got a little more Knowledge or a little more empathy for people And I care more but you know There's certain things where it's like I get it. I'm good

You know I don't have to do that Yeah it's not it's not wrong to You know think about people's feelings you know I guess I mean I told you it it's fucking kills comedy I mean funny it's funny It can this dad stuff sounds like it sucks Yeah it sucks it blows it all feeling Yeah don't do it don't do it

I'm trying to get less sexist I've been watching woke porn to try to prepare What the fuck? What is that? Where the woman's awake and... By the being. It's actually... They're actually engaged.

No, I don't know. All his porn is wedding night porn. Well, the thing with movies that... I did a thing on Bonfire today, 1983, the movies that came out. And it was... I'll read the list here. It's...

1983. 1983. Yep. You ready for this? Yeah. That was. You forget what it was? No, I'm trying to think.

Yeah, I'm not good with states. Here, let me bring it up. You ready? I can't. Think of what the past year has put out. And think of the stupid... I mean, the output's insane from the past. I mean, there's no comparison.

Think about what, you know, the Golden Globes this year. It's just like, what? I don't... They're giving comedies away to non-comities. Yeah, that's course. Because they won't make a fucking real comedy in that. Yeah. Everything has to be woke and everybody has to be okay with a...

Dude, do you remember, I mean... I'll tell you one battle after another. People, not everyone's okay with that. I love the movie, but there's a lot of people that had some mission. I just, I haven't watched it. I thought it was great. Yeah, me too. Of course you're two fucking losers.

Fucking woke nerds. You don't love America. That's why you liked it. Hang on. All right, here we go. Save. Let me see if I saved it. Yes, I did.

Perfect. Here it is. 183. 1983. We're going to go through the movies. You're ready? Think of movies. Just think of some movies.

Think of movies. Name five movies that you think from 1983. Oh, this is fun. We'll try a guess. Yeah. Well, okay, so Raging Bull is 80, I believe. 83, Kramer v. Kramer? Nope.

Bad to the future, too? Nope. Ordinary people? Nope. No, that would be 78 or something, I think. Defending your life? No. Lost in America?

No. And Beijing at the Biasnatcher? No. Well, you got to read. That's a 70. All right, I'm going to read them to you. You ready? Scarface.

All right. Brian De Palma, okay. Vacation. Original? Original. Okay. Vacation. Return of the Jedi.

Oh, what? Superman 3. Risky business. Amazing. Flash dance. Not amazing, but still. What a feeling? This isn't such a great year.

She was hottest. We got the worst Star Wars of the trilogy. Risky business. Yeah. Risky business is good. Return of the Jedi was good. Yes. You're my father?

Come on. Well, that's, that's Empire strikes back. Oh, number two, when Luke came back and fucking frozen and carbonite. You mean Han Solo? That guy, too, yeah. I'm not a dwee by you guys. I'm just trying to assume. You're trying to assume.

I'm trying to assimilate. All right, vacation. Fucking, come on. Scarface, holy shit. Vacation's great. Return of the Jedi's great. Superman 3, I get you. Risky business is a fucking classic.

Flash dance. Eh. Okay. trading places. Oh, okay. All right, we're talking two comedies that have stand the test of time. All right, here we go.

Stand alive. Not so good, right? That's a slide. Still in direct to one, right? Yep. Okay, here's one. War games. What the?

Amazing. That's what Matthew Brod was. Octopus. Good one. Maybe I'm trying to... Another comedy. Mr. Mom. Funny?

I think this year is better. Never say, never again. Another jump on. All right, here's another. Jaws 3. No good. I get you. Actually, I quite enjoy that. You're going to love this one because I know you are.

The big chill. I don't love it. I know you like it. You're going to like this one. I know you will. Terms of Endearment. I like it. I don't love it.

It's no broadcast news, but I like it. Blue Thunder. Blue Thunder. Helicopter. Oh, yeah. Roy Schneider. All right. I liked it.

I get it. Sudden impact. Wait, what is sudden impact? Clinties, would you do? I mean, dude. Is that an impact like a dirty hair, one of the dirty Harry movies? Yeah, which I think this year was better. You had one bat off to another.

You had sinners. Sinners? You had train dreams. You had Marty Supreme. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Sinners. Go ahead. Just go like this.

Can we come in? What? Just say, can we come in? Can we come in? No. Movie over. Night's on. No.

Oh, boy. Nope. Can't. Well, I mean. No. Ask me. Ask me. Can I?

No, you can't. Nobody's coming until the sun goes up. There's a lot more than that. Oh, fuck both of you. And you had two of the same gorgeous guy to get all the pussies wet. Stop it. The money, yeah.

Look, and the fucking horn. Great movie. They was singing. His singing brought the fuck off. It was, look it. There's the anger again. It's back. You bring it the blacks.

It's not. I think this is, no. What are you said? I'm just a joke. It's not about. Better year. First of all, I love it.

It is a better year for him. You put out a shit year in 83. It's not like a year. Scarface! Scarface! You could have put a better year. I will put Scarface up against any of these fucking movies. Wait to bring the full circle.

Brother's sister incest. Scarface. What you like? What you like. Wait, who's the brother's sister incest? Remember, she's like, you want to fuck me, Tony. Like, that's the whole thing at the end. Michelle Pfeiffer?

No, no, the sister character. Remember what he kills the best friend and shit? Oh, right, right, right. I mean, there's no movie, there's no comedy out, like vacation, trading places. Those two comedies are fucking hilarious. I'll say comedy-wise, I don't think anything came out this year. Scarface. Terms of Endearment, Scarface, come on.

I don't think, I mean, I don't think Scarface is like going to... What? I mean, I love Scarface, but no one talks about Scarface the way they used to, like, 10 years ago, even. I mean, but still, when it's on you, like, I'm fucking... It's such a great movie of... of what happened at that time in Miami. And it was insane. It was such a,

and they made, it was such a long movie. You had to, it was very long. It was long, and it was a real fucking movie. It told a complete story. It didn't, it didn't just cut shit out to get to the end

or get to the middle. It was a great story about this one guy's life all the way to the fucking movie. I will say it's a good caper if you want to do a marathon at Al Pacino, just completely bat-shin crazy. You do doubles advocate. I don't know. I love it.

You do that. think this year's better? I do. All right, name the movies again. Sinners. Train dreams. What is it? What is it?

Train dreams. What's train dreams? It's, you wouldn't like it. Trade dreams, sinners, Marty Supreme. Marcy Pram. You know, one battle for another. Just those alone, I feel like, are, uh... I haven't seen, I haven't seen any...

I have seen... I have a mental value, you know? I mean, I mean, you know... You guys are fucking... I wasn't, I wasn't great. I didn't love sentimental values as much as much as much as other. People. Me, too.

But, like, I think this isn't better here. Oh, Fanning's kind of hot. But I do like that you have to defend terms of endearment in the situation. Listen to me, terms of endearment, I'll fucking cry every time. I'll put my candy by back, mom. It's a good movie, yeah. It's a great movie. Jack Nicholson is great.

The acting is fucking amazing. But I mean, this one down and another is like an amazing movie. It's not a comedy. It is funny. It is funny. It is funny. It is funny as trading places. You know, I don't know.

I got to rewatch, because I saw Trane play as a kid. People love to talk about 80s comedies. They're like the greatest. And then you watch it again. And it's just a bunch of nerds gang raping a woman or something. It's some shit that doesn't hold up. Yeah, that's the problem with the generation. You don't think gangraineries.

You're like, this is a masterpiece. That's a lot of John Hughes movie. Some of the movies are just like the premise is sexual assault. That's another thing. You don't see any. It's just the movies is called rape. That's why I love Taylor Sheridan, though. He has ass.

T&A in the show. Like, Porky, that's just a crime. It's just a crime. It really is. That's how they pitch something. It's a crime on two ends. As a teacher, you can't grab a student's hog and hold on to it. That is so...

You can't look through naked with it. That's just like that. Even American Pie is fucking, like, crazy. Because they live stream a chick getting naked. Without her consent, it's like fucking... My favorite thing. Not in a woke. way, I just find it funny to look back

at movies like that and see what really doesn't hold up. My favorite is, I just find it funny, but my favorite is Billy Madison. There's a part where the kid goes up to Adam Sandler and he goes, I dare you to like accidentally like grab the teacher's

tit, trip and grab the teacher's tit. He goes, that's assault, brother. Do you double dare me? He's like aware of the, it's not even like not aware. He doesn't. knows the crime and he's like, D, you double daring. And then he does it, he grabs her dick.

This is the thing going back to the front of the conversation. Once you start to get empathy, once you start to care, once you start, you are losing, we're going to lose, our comedies are not going to be as funny because it's just, dude, that's funny. It's stupid. Of course, of course. It's assault, but it's still funny. And I do think it's funny.

I'm not saying it from a defensive way. But I know. I just think it's funny. I know, but it's like we're going to lose. Tropic Thunder. We'll never see that movie. One of the great comedy. We'll never see that movie again because of where we're at.

Until somebody has the fucking balls to just make a comedy and make it for themselves and what they think is funny and not care what we think. I mean, that's why the South Park guys, they have the fuck you money, right? No, I always said this. You can be a cartoon and be funny. Yeah. Because it gives you, it's not real people. You can say whatever you want is a cartoon.

Or a puppet. A puppets can do whatever they want. I think there's like a Tropic Thunder, I think, the reason why that's such an easy thing to counter. Someone was like that, you know, that's so offensive with one of the other is that the comedy isn't even the race shit with Robert Dyn Jr's character. It's how insane he is. Like, that's what makes me laugh about it. Because when you think about the layers that that dude went. Yeah.

That's a fucking crazy first of like the commitment to the point where it's like not about race. Yeah. It's just a Australian dude playing a American dude who's a black dude. I'm a dude playing a dude playing another dude. But also, also like. People are offended in the movie about it. So it's not like, it's not, it's like calling it out. Yeah, they got mad at 30 Rock for the same way.

They got mad because there's one port where she's like in blackface. But like everyone's like offended her for doing it. It's like insane. And they've removed that episode. It's insane. You should see the outtakes of Tropic Thunder. It's just. Oh yeah.

You see the actress where he's in character with the family and shit? It's on YouTube. Like, have you seen it? It's like 30 minutes of him like just being bat-shy crazy with the guy's family. The guy doesn't even exist. It's so fucking great movie He just had these Asian fan This Asian fan with like a gunpoint

Yeah And his carriage to go through PTSD And it doesn't exist Yeah It's fucked up Comedy has hurt Yeah I mean it has like

What Seinfeld said about like Wokeness has hurt like TV And people got mad at him Yeah Which kind of proved his point But like he's right Like Yeah

There's not really any funny shows now And I mean there's a couple But for the most part Even shows that try to be funny Have to deal with the wokeness In this way where they're like Well think of two and a half men. He was just his massageness a piece of

shit that fuck chicks because he had money. But you know what is good still is Ted? I guess it's grandfathered him. You watch that show? That show is dangerous. They do some What is that? It's a teddy bear. Mark Wahlberg. They turn into a show. It's about them growing up. But again, he's a teddy bear. He can do it. Yeah, yeah. True. So, if

he was a guy, you couldn't do it. It's a great show. Every episode is a pedophile joke. It's hilarious. But yeah, no, there are no really good, like, sick. Like, yeah. That one shit comes a dead. Sitcomes like. You know why? Because you have to earnest. And you have to represent every.

You have to have something where everybody gets their little say and somebody learns something. sitcoms would never like this. Well, also it's like we attack. Except for All in the Family. Right. Yeah, but watch All in the Family now. They're dealing with the same exact issues we're dealing with now.

That show is dealing with back then. Yeah, and he's clearly a clown. They're making fun of him. Like, it's like, it's not like the show's sporting and view. 100% wrong, but you get his view. You get their view. You get it kind of everybody's view. Then you get the Jeffersons would come over.

And, you know, it's everybody was taking care of on that show. Yeah. And yes, but there was a point. Edith knew, you know what I mean? But she still loved Archie because she knows Archie was a good person. Right, right, right. He was a good guy. That's the thing that we've decided is not possible.

Yeah. Which is that back then you- White guys aren't good. Or that someone could be racist and still. be have a good heart and it's not racism that's like impossible to realize is there a difference between being a bigot and being a racist I don't know

like think okay the Jews you know what I mean saying the Jews this you can't say that well the Jews do do this you know the like when I said tonight on my show when I was I saved that girl at the I was trying to do a bit about it at the end when the father came in and let go overhand I literally said yeah

and 100% he was black yeah if you're wondering he's black he was black because he can't swim everybody laughed but I saw one girl was just like and it was a white girl. It's a joke, but it's, you know what I mean? But he's not joking on the show. We're laughing.

But I mean, sometimes he's joking, but in all the family, isn't he also saying his like real views a lot? Saying his review, but a lot of times it's in joke form. Like when they were on the elevator and it was a Spanish guy and a black guy walked up. He goes, Mr. Bucker, I am equal to you. And he goes, equal to me, you're not even equal to him. And the black guy went, right? I guess that's a joke.

It's a joke. I guess you're racist if you think other racist. are inferior. And also, like, you're... You're beholden to those beliefs. Like, you're like, there's nothing changing your opinion on that. Like, speaking of Jews, you know...

Listen, I don't know with all the family... How do you feel about the Palestine situation? Go. I saw when they had the interview, the debate with Mom Dani and whatever, all the... Quamo and... They had that lot. It was really funny.

They're like, now, what do you all think about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? I know it's complicated, but you have 30 seconds. That debate is insane. It is really funny. Like, Silwa, or how do you pronounce it? Silwa, yeah.

They're like, do you take any ride shares or Ubers? And he was like, well, as you all know, I'm a stab. I'm stabbed by a member and again, Beatle family at the back of a text. I mean, the funniest is when they're like, the funniest, it was like the most perfect timing. They were like, oh, it was like credit card or cash or like debit card or credit card. They're like debit card, debit card, what damn he was like. I don't own any credit cards or some shit.

It was like some crazy shit. The guy has 16 cats. You can't trust anybody who has 16 cats in an apartment. It was amazing. He's so crazy. He almost kind of would. He wouldn't amazing. He did well.

He got 10%, dude. He didn't even get close. Cuomo would have won if he fucking wasn't in. Yeah. That guy was so entitled to that the mayor. Like, I've never seen anyone run a more entitled campaign. Who? Cuomo.

He's getting called out directly. about the woman thing, right? And he's just like, like, he has no response. I'm a Dalian, not much. I mean, look, it is culture. Well, he, I was on the subway and, what's his name, beret boy, all of a sudden, guys put his hand out. It was him, and he shook my hand.

Oh, okay. He was just walking the subway. Silla. Oh, nice. Yeah, and he gave me his car. He's around. Donnie was at my bodega. I live in kind of like a Muslim area.

He was like canvassing. Oh, great. Listen, I don't give a shit either way. It doesn't matter to me. I don't live in the city. That's true. Where do you live in? I live in Westchester.

Yeah. You know, and it's Democrat. I'm fine with that. It's old school Democrat. I went to college. And West where? Sydney purchase. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Oh, good. I love it up there. It's not too cold up there? Huh? It's not too cold up there? Just cold as this down here. Very wealthy area. Oh, my God.

You don't know. So many rich. You know, lives up there in my town, Chevy Chase. Oh, shit. You watch that documentary? I did. I got to watch it. No.

How is it? I tell you, the thing with comedians that people don't understand is when you put them with actors, they're going to seem like assholes. Because we're always trying to be funny. We're always trying to bust balls. We're always looking for the laugh. And actors are sensitive. They, you know, and you look, I've worked with comic actors.

And I'm not saying actors aren't funny, but they don't have that jugular vein thing. You know what I mean? They still care. But don't a lot of comedians hate him too, though? No, comedians hate comedians. Have you talked to anybody? Most of the last time you had to... How many text threads do you have about other comedians? We do, of course.

We don't, we trash each other because it's a bunch of alpha male narcissists with inferiority complexes working in the same place, a lot. So we are going to bump heads. We're going to fuck with each other. We're going to say mean things to each other. Get offended. That's what we do.

And you're going to send this guy's coming up. He's on. SNL, they made him, when he did the... We can update. We can update. He became the savior of the show. Yeah, yeah. And all of a sudden, Hollywood said, come with us.

And he left. Yeah, he left. And he made fucking movie after movie, after movie, after movie, after movie. He's very funny. Yeah, but he's very funny. But Bobby, he has decades. Decades. People hate it.

There's an interview. Some fucking weird guy was interviewing the cast of Caddyshack, they're all egomanias. Yeah, they all, like, because Harold Ramis and, no, but I think he took it to the next level, though. You know what I mean? He antagonized people. Well, he antagonized people because that's his thing. If you look at, look at his movies.

He's a kind of an ego, confident asshole that fucking bust balls and says outrageous shit that offends people, and then he's like, you know, you know, whatever the fuck it is, you know, hey, how you doing? Nice shirt. Where'd you get that? You're black, right? Okay, anyways. That's his thing. And people get offended

at him. But that's, that's also, dude, he was doing blow up the fucking ass for you. Yeah. Then he quit blow. You're a Chevy Chase Apologist. No, but actually, no, I wasn't because I don't know, I don't know the guy. I have always loved his movies, but then when they were saying he's a dickhead, I was like, oh, that stinks.

He's a dickhead, but then I watched the documentary, and they were made, he's on a show community. Yeah. With Glover and the other chick. Joe McHale. Joe McHale, these are all actors. Actors are different people than, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, when you put a comic in there

But he's not like a stand-up But he's also past his prime You got a guy That's what I was gonna say is like Well that was bound to be great comedy These are all new They're all fucking actors They fucking tow the line

You know they mean Hey how are you Nice to see They do all that shit He's a legend At the end of his career On a show with a bunch of young people Yeah

And he's gonna walk in All he's got is I'm the shit That's all I know It just sucks Because he was funny on that fucking show He was funny on the show He played himself. But what about the part?

I only saw one of the clip. What is that part where like she's like, ask him a question? He's like, you're not very bright, are you? Yeah. What was that about?

But that's his, that's his thing. That's his whole. That's his thing. I don't think that was a bit. No, but I'll tell you what it is. It's an insecure comedian.

Yeah. It's definitely insecure. It's an insecure guy that when you, when you, it's like a fat guy when you pull up their shirt. It's like, where somebody says somebody, what the fuck does that mean? But we get to go, go fuck yourself.

But if he does it, he's supposed to, you're supposed to, you know, be an actor. Right. When actors do interviews, right? It's always like, yeah, the movie. And you know when I shot that? And yeah, yeah, because they know how to do an interview for TV. Comics, we fucking ruin it every time because we say stupid shit.

But also, but in a documentary, don't they talk about him not being invited to perform in the SNL 50? but he's like hated by the comedians. No, no, no. They don't talk about that in the documentary? Okay. What they did to him, you got to understand he was on season one. Yeah.

He made it with weekend update. It wouldn't be around. They wouldn't be at 50. And then you look on, they look on the stage. First, they didn't give him a part, like a skit. But understood, there's 55 people there, right? They can't, everybody's not going to get one. And whether people want to write for him or not, that's fine.

Everybody has bad situations, but he's there. he's the guy that helped you get to where you are. Self-admitted by Lauren Michaels. Yeah, yeah. Okay? They didn't bring him on stage at the end. Yeah. Dave Chappelle was on stage.

What the fuck are you doing up there over Chevy Chase? Yeah. What the fuck? You're not even a cast member. I feel like Shepel's always on the stage. Whatever saying you're looking at. He's on there. You know what I'm saying?

They didn't invite him on the... Imagine being him going there with your wife. wife and your kid. Yeah, I'm sure it's soft. And they fucking, I think they said something about them too. And then they didn't invite him on the stage at the end. That's crushing at the end. You're not going to, you don't have any more clout. All as you have is your reputation and the benefits of what you did and how people admire you now. And here you are at the place where it all started. You helped it get to where it was. Isn't that a testament to like if you treat people shitty your

whole career, it's going to come back? I think that's, I don't give a shit. That's a moment that he deserved and he should have been on stage with everybody else. Yeah. Fuck you. Yeah. Suck it up. Suck it up.

I do think he's great. I mean, I mean, that's my opinion. In that, look, I understand not hiring him. I understand not wanting him back on SNL. I mean, even Garrett Morris was on there and he's barely able to stand up. Dude, he wouldn't, he, Chevy Chase. A person, Black, uh, male. Chevy Chase would write him stuff.

I feel like, I feel like such an asshole now. I'm like, who would she? He's like, the first ever black comedian. He didn't get that much to do in the show. But you know, Gilda or John Belish? No, no, no. Chevy Chase. Yeah.

Oh, I know this guy. Chevy Chase wrote him stuff to put him in stuff. And he says that too. He was on stage, not Chevy Chase. That's fucking nuts to me. And that hurt him deeply. And look, he's old now. The older you get, the more fucking crazy.

Yeah, yeah. But he's always trying to crack jokes. The lady interviewed him, too, is a fucking twat. She's setting him up to be... I'm gonna watch. That's what I'm saying, like, you coming away and being like, you know, not saying the defender of Chevy, but... I'm not...

That's the opposite of what I heard. Look, and I know... Look, I know a lot of famous people that are assholes. But it comes with being insecure. What we are. We're just insecure little kids that have egos because all of a sudden you get stuff and all of a sudden, people open the doors for you.

Imagine that level. Imagine making that many hits. Treating people below you, like their shit, I just feel like that's just never, like, except. And there's a lot of consequences to that, too. There's so many people that had heat or, like, we know we're blowing up for a second, and then they fade away, and you wonder why, and you hear stories about people stop fucking with them. They start working.

I was like, where'd she go? I'm not defending what he does. You got to deal with your consequences. He has a comic. You know what I mean? But I'm saying that. In that moment, he should have. I don't think that he's as bad as, I don't think he's as bad as people said he was.

And he's not, I know worse people. Let's put it that way. I know worse. And shit builds up. When people start hating someone, it builds up. And that moment really fucking bum me out. It's like, you son of a bitches, you wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for that one dude and that weekend update. And people going, holy shit, what is his?

They didn't let him do, they had a fucking, some nobody singer that you don't even know anymore. And somebody else go live from New York. He was the first one to do it. He would fall and go live from New York. It's Saturday night. he should have you couldn't give him a skit couldn't put him on stage he should have at least done that and been on stage at the end waving with all his other castmates that's the end of his life he's not going to be around for much long I mean also he has some long lingering beefs I'm not saying that that's

right or like Lawrence always going to pick up bill Murray on stage over Chevy that's what it came down to you know what I mean but you know what I got fucking long lingering beefs I will say like you get me you get me old Bobby again I feel like Chevy is like a lot funnier than Bill Murray a lot of the time. Like Groundhog Day, people talk about a lot, and it is obviously like a very unique movie. But it would have been so much better with

Chevy Chase. Because Chevy Chase is arrogant in a way that's so funny. And that's like an arrogant character. And it's not, Bill Murray is not funny when he's arrogant. Like it's just not funny like with Chevy Chase, it's real. You know what I mean? A lot of times I feel like Chevy Chase is like, because

he's less likable, he's like funnier. I think so. I think so. I think That's why I like the among community. He's a least likable person. He's a sea of unluckable people. He was playing himself. I don't think likeable... At his age, too, which is nuts.

I think likable can kind of hurt sometimes. Dude, let me tell you something. Casts can really turn on people. Yeah. And it gets very catty and gossipy. And they form a little click. And it's like, if you're the guy, you're in trouble. You're in trouble.

And it sucks. Because they should have had a little respect for him. And then the guy who wrote or whatever is, he wound up being a fucking drunk out. alcoholic having to go to rehab. So he had his own fucking issues. What if you see Chevy Chase next week and he's like really rude to you? You're like, I'm the only one defending

you. That's what I've heard. So people were like on podcast, they talk about, defending them. Because you've got to understand his humor. Like, you know, when I have certain people on here, I know what they are and it's like, fuck it. I get it. I'll go with it. I'm going to row with it. Anyways, all, we're going to wrap this up.

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