#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 11.19 RMU: Impeachment hearings; Redlining in Long Island, NY; Marijuana licensing lacks diversity

Episode Date: November 24, 2019

11.19.19 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Donald Trump Impeachment hearings; Extensive redlining in Long Island, NY exposed; Chicago marijuana licensing lacks diversity; Senate Republicans blocked $255M for HBCUs; Girlfriend of Philando Castille is suing the Mayor of Elysian, Minnesota for his racist tweet; Crazy woman harasses a Black man for taking out the trash while Black #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: 420 Real Estate, LLC To invest in 420 Real Estate’s legal Hemp-CBD Crowdfunding Campaign go to http://marijuanastock.org - Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Hey folks, Roland Martin here. Today is Tuesday, November 19th, 2019. I'm broadcasting live from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I'll be attending the Midnight event at Langston University as they hit into finals weeks. But coming up on roland martin unfiltered uh impeachment hearings took place today on capitol hill we'll show you the latest uh on the drama taking place there also a news day investigation reveals a rampant housing discrimination in long island they have video evidence uh that is extremely strong folks that is We'll break it down with one of the investigative reporters. Also Chicago's, uh, Chicago's black caucus, not happy at all for the lack of African Americans who have marijuana licenses in that city. Hmm. We'll break it down for you. Also

folks, uh, while we are focused on impeachment, Republicans have blocked the measure for HBCU funding some 255 million bucks. I thought Republicans cared about HBCU funding, some $255 million. Republicans cared about HBCUs. Also, the girlfriend of Plano Caspio is suing the mayor of Elysian, Minnesota, for his racist tweet. We'll tell you exactly what took place. Another crazy-ass white woman arrests a black man for taking the trash out. And I'll give you the latest on Colin Kaepernick and the NFL. Folks, the the jam pack show it's time to bring the funk and roll the martin and filter let's go he's got it whatever the miss he's on it whatever it is he's got the scoop the fact the fine

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He's funky, he's fresh, he's real. The best you know, he's Roland Martin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Martin. All right, folks, welcome back to Roland Martin Unfiltered. I am here in Oklahoma City. Oklahoma, of course, in the event tonight was part of the care initiative at Langston University. But we want to continue our conversation today dealing with the blowback from Colin Kaepernick and the NFL.

It was about less than an hour ago. I got off the phone talking to an NFL spokesperson about what took place. They contend that negotiations were going very well with Colin Kaepernick. And it really was their insistence on having a video crew, as well as them raising issues about this waiver that led to the derailment of his workout. Now, the NFL sent me documentation that says that the waiver that they were presenting to Colin Kaepernick had nothing to do with him not being able to sue. It was about an injury issue. They also said it was extremely similar language to what he signed when he participated in the 2011-2010 NFL combine. All of this has been going back and forth since what took place on Saturday when they had

something scheduled, when they had a workout schedule. In my conversations with the NFL spokesperson, I was told that they reached out to Colin Kaepernick's people on Tuesday, that two NFL teams were interested

in working Colin Kaepernick out. But it still begs the question, why do they go through all of this for just two teams? I want to bring in my panel right now. Joining me is Kelly Bethea, communications strategist. Teresa Lundy, who also joined us as a communications specialist, as well as Malik Abdul. He is a Republican strategist who joins us as well as Malik Abdul. He is a Republican strategist who joins us as well. And so first, I want to start with you, Teresa. This, to me, was totally vulnerable from the beginning. Even though my conversation with the NFL,

which was on background, laying out these details. What I still don't understand is why go through this huge hoopla over a workout if just two teams were interested. If the two teams were interested in Colin Kaepernick, those individual teams, two out of 32, could have easily called Colin Kaepernick in for a workout. There would have been no need for this huge, this spectacle that it turned into. And so it still raises some alarms for me in terms of what this was really, really all about. The Colin Kaepernick narrative where it's like they're trying to stay into their advocacy and criminal justice battle that he's going through with his uh his own opinions um and you know fighting the good

fight with the nfl but it's also also looks like it's trying to dispel rumors that he no longer wants to be in the league and so when we see you know colin and his entire team you know putting on this uh you know um this whole charade i'll just say this whole charade, I'll just say, this whole charade that's saying, you know, he is back on the field. He is fighting the good fight with the post statement because this workout never went through. It just shows that he's still trying to stay relevant because, again, the fight for him is to stay relevant and not to get back on the field. I disagree with that completely. I disagree with that because we saw what happened when Nike came out with their ad.

He's very relevant. I mean, it's real clear. He's extremely relevant. The issue still here is why kelly the nfl go through all of it to organize a league-wide workout if only a couple of teams made an inquiry the nfl should have said to those teams you are more than welcome to bring him in for a workout i'm i'm just you'll collect that two out of 32 will be interested and then you would go to this huge workout yeah it's it's all for show um specifically on the nfl side if anything because um in terms of their interaction with kaepernick and the settlement and all those

things if anything is the nfl that's trying to stay relevant in this situation because like you In terms of their interaction with Kaepernick and the settlement and all those things, if anything, it's the NFL that's trying to stay relevant in this situation because, like you said, Kaepernick is going to be relevant whether he's on the NFL roster or not. If he gets in the NFL, he'll be really relevant in terms of his ability actually staying the course. He has not deviated from his athletic ability at all, if anything, from the stats. It looks like he's gotten better over the past three years that he hasn't been on a team,

versus the NFL, whose base, whose money, and everything has kind of been on the decline in the three years because of Kaepernick. So if anything, the NFL had to put on face to, you know, look good for the public, regardless of whether there was only two teams. But at the end of the day, this situation should just be a matter of either put Kaepernick on a team or don't. Don't dangle the carrot before the horse and just act like, you know, this is going to be just enticing for him. He's just going to keep trying and trying and trying.

There's going to be a point where he's not going to be able to anymore. And that's going to be the NFL's fault because he shouldn't have been kicked off in the first place. So I disagree with the. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, I was just saying I disagree with my colleague in terms of Kaepernick staying relevant. But at the same time, this entire predicament is just ridiculous. Either add him or don't. He's more than qualified. Put him on a team because that's what he wants.

This is what it boils down to. It's very simple. Either you possess the talent to play in the nfl or you don't and if you have massive distrust on both sides obviously there was a lawsuit here but that's what it boils down to i don't understand why it's this hard well i i don't think it's really that simple if we're talking about business. Yes, you may be qualified

for the job, but there are other factors other than just your talent and whether or not you would get the job. So, Jess? Well, you could be a rapist and be very talented and not have a job. Well, I'm using that as an example of why.

No, but there could be any. There could be any. Roland, before you go there. One second. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. No, no. Hold on, Mellick.

You use an example of a player who has committed a crime. There are players in the NFL who've committed a crime. There are players in the NFL who've committed domestic violence. They're still in the NFL. Yeah, black players. Colin Kaepernick. Hold on. Colin Kaepernick has never been arrested.

Nope. Colin Kaepernick has never been in trouble. And so what does it say that the NFL is very easily willing to give somebody a shot who beat a woman as opposed to a guy who took a knee? Well, that's been a consistent conversation in the NFL, in the sports industry in general. In Collins' case, you know, I'd push back on your notion that somehow because he's talented that that means he's not guaranteed a job and i think that that's what a lot of people well first of all no no no no no no no one is guaranteed no one no no one is guaranteed a job but fact are fact if you are better than two-thirds of the existing quarterbacks of the NFL, that means that you are being purposely denied.

So, yes, it's not about talent, and that's the point. Well, no. For the most part, the overwhelming majority of the discussions about Colin haven't been that he's not talented enough to play amongst the rosters of players that they have out now. The question is whether or not he's not talented enough to play amongst the rosters of players that they have out now, the question is whether or not he's guaranteed a job. So for months leading up to this Saturday, for months leading up to this Saturday workout, what we've seen from Colin is him posting on social media, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.

Well, he had the opportunity on Saturday, and you spoke with the NFL yourself. So this isn't second, third, you know, third-hand information. Well, I actually spoke with both sides. Okay. And the issue is that Colin Kaepernick's team said that the waiver was an issue because they felt as if they would not be able to file legal claims later. And numerous lawyers, not even on his side, said it would be legal malpractice to have your client sign that waiver. Well, okay, well, that the waiver is an issue, that's something that's on the legal side. But we don't even have to talk about the legality of the waiver or anything. Actually, you do, because that was the point, the reason the workout didn't move forward.

But, Roland, that is part of a larger story in what we're talking about with Colin Kaepernick. It's not just— No, it's not. Well, yes, it is, Roland. No, it's not. The waiver was the reason they chose not to move forward with the workout. It's a larger story. How you started— The waiver is move forward with the workout you're how you started the waiver

the waiver is tied directly to the workout how you started to just how do you start at this segment is talking about why would the nfl go through all of this if it really was about two teams so to add no no no no no actually okay i mean i'm just i'll just let you finish my i laid out several different things i was told no no no i'm telling you what i'm just i'll just let you finish my i laid out several different things i was told no no no i'm telling you what i started with i started with laying out what nfl spokesperson told me that covered a variety of areas including two teams including a videotaping including the waiver right so so there so it wasn't so it's not just about so it's not just about the waiver which is what i just said it's not just about the waiver it's is what I just said. It's not just about the waiver. It's a couple of issues here.

But you said that it was only two teams. Well, they said, based on what they told you, they started out with two teams. But apparently, weren't there 20 or so teams that were actually going to be there? So it's not like they just stuck with the two teams. They actually went even further and invited more teams there who were willing to participate. And on the subject of the video crew, I don't know. The point is still is this here. Is it normal for players to bring their own video crews when they're doing a workout or a combine?

Is that normal? First of all, the NFL conceded there was nothing even normal about this entire deal. And it wasn't. So you can't even use the word normal because there was nothing normal about it. It wasn't. But is that. The bottom line is. But we're complaining while he's.

That he's being mistreated. No, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not complaining. I'm stating what happened. And the bottom line is that this was a pure disaster from the get-go. Because what they should have done, what they should have done, and even when I talked to them, I did not get a good enough explanation why they didn't go through all of these different negotiations before announcing the workout.

So you don't think that Colin erred at all? You don't think that colin aired at all you don't think that colin aired at all that everything i think that i i said that the problem with this whole issue was from the outset how it transpired the short window all of those different things that was the fundamental problem theresa you want to make a comment before i go to my housing story go yeah i was going back to my original point this is all to stay relevant because anybody if we're involving the legal situation with uh colin cappernitz situation that this should have been handled early on it was not handled early on thus caused the um cancellation on cappernitz and which means to me it just shows yes being in pr this is a stunt that we do uh every day for

different type of clients um where we have to um start to see what makes sense and how does the client stay relevant in that cycle so now we're but it's not but but it's not but it's not even the client staying relevant absolutely in. The NFL, Teresa. Because I bet you in the next poll, it's about him going out and doing another, you know, training up to the workout. Right, being woke. He was woke. No, no, no, no, no. Hold up, hold up.

First of all, first of all, his camp said they may put on their own workout at the NFL meeting in Palm Beach, Florida. Guess what? They can't say they're not going to be there. Let me go to this next story, which is a huge story. We often have talked about housing discrimination. This, of course, Fair Housing Act was signed in 1968. And you hear people say, oh, my goodness, racism has gone away. But guess what? Newsday did an investigation that revealed extreme racism taking place by real estate agents on Long Island. They found widespread separate and unequal treatment of minority potential homebuyers in minority communities.

Two hundred and forty hours of secretly recorded meetings found that Asians were discriminated against. Nineteen percent of the time, Latinos, thirty nine percent of the time, African-Americans, forty nine% of the time. Latinos, 39% of the time. African Americans, 49% of the time. Here is one of the secret meetings. I don't know about that. I have to get you to think about that because I've been running like a dog. So I really need that.

I won't take on anyone unless I do have a pre like a dole. I know. So I really need that. I won't take out anyone unless... You have a pre-qualification letter. So I need to know that you're pre-qualified for a mortgage. Oh, so that means I can't go out to see anything. I won't do it. You can try another person, but I don't have the time to do that. Oh, good.

I'm just going to take some notes and introduce you to Signature. What is your availability? When can you start looking at houses? I would say not this coming week, but the following week. Okay, so today is, let's set up our first appointment. I will send you the listings this afternoon. Keith Herbert is an investigative reporter for Newsday, participated in this. Keith, this is stunning to people who are delusional in thinking that racism somehow was eradicated in the housing industry. Roland, how are you doing? Good to be with you. The results speak for themselves. The numbers

that you indicate are what we found after doing more than 100 tests. We counted 86 of them, and what you see in those numbers are exactly what we found. The video clip you showed is an example of us trying to be as transparent as possible so that the test results that we found can be examined by anyone who wanted to look at Newsday's website and see exactly what occurred between the tester and the agent. discrimination really makes it plain that the reality of black folks, what people have to understand is that housing is where most Americans are able to build their wealth. So black people, by being discriminated against when it comes to buying a home, that is impacting the economics and the future wealth of those black families and their children and their children's children. That's true. We found that as well here in our investigation. One of the things we found was that if you looked at in particular neighborhood where an African-American would typically

get a home compared with an area next door here on Long Island where a white person might end up. When you look at the difference in appreciation rate between 1990 and 2017, over those years, that amount of money adds up to $50,000. So it definitely has an impact that makes a difference in people's lives. When you think about your home, it's probably the biggest investment that you have, the biggest asset. So the practices that we were able to uncover in the parent-discipline treatment has an impact, like you said, down the line for generations. First of all, how expansive was your team? How many people did you send out? How many people did you eventually talk to and come across?

We engaged 26 testers to do matched pair testing. So we sent in one tester of black or white or Asian, mostly people of color that would match with a white tester. And we did 86 of those that we counted. So matched pairs would give us results based upon how the real estate agents treated one side of the test compared to the other side of the test. And the video clip that you showed allowed us to make transcripts to compare exactly what happened on one side to the other side. As part of the investigation, we collected over 5,700 listings. Real estate listings allowed us to get the address of where the homes, the agents where they suggested that the white tester look at a house and where the minority tester look at a house.

And once we plotted those into census tracts, we started to see patterns where the neighborhoods that the minority testers were getting tended to be more diverse than the neighborhood that the white testers were getting. And you gave a good summary of the numbers of the findings there. But indeed, African-Americans suffered most of the disparate treatment that we uncovered in this investigation. Were people on your team, were your editors shocked with what they discovered? Were there people who believed that this stuff really did exist?

And how did this series, this expose, even originate? Was it based upon a complaint? How did it all start off? Well, it started, obviously, more than three years ago when the owner of a news day, Patrick Dolan, apparently had a conversation or lunch with one of the people who works in the fair housing field here on Long Island who indicated to him

that there apparently is a problem with real estate agents providing fair and equal service to all their customers in the community. Keep in mind that we're here on Long Island, which is one of the most segregated metropolitan areas in the country. So as far as being shocked, you know, it depends on who you talk to. Members of the staff here at Newsday who happen to be people of color didn't seem to be too shocked by what they saw, which you can imagine because many of them have stories about either being steered to a particular neighborhood or treated unfairly in their own house and such. This is, of course, again, a stunning expose.

We certainly appreciate your work and the work of the Newsday staff. This is also why investigative reporting is important. This is why local newspapers matter. And so I would certainly hope folks there in New York will be very supportive of Newsday and what y'all are doing there. Where can folks see the full report? Your question. Keith, where can folks see the full report? Oh, yeah. Go to Newsday.com. All right.

And what you get, you get a link. You get a link that it takes you to all the stories. There's an excellent documentary on there. It's long. It's 40 minutes, but it's worth every minute of it. I advise everyone take a look at the documentary, which really does a good job of encapsulating the entire story. But, you know, read the stories, too.

There are plenty of them. Read each one in detail, exactly what happened in each individual test. All right, Keith Herbert, we appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Kelly, the point there when you talk about the places where black people are being pushed to live, losing out on upwards of $50,000 when it comes to reselling. That is how redlining impacted black people. That's how federal housing policies impacted black people. And for people who have this silly notion that these things don't exist,

it is still existing in 2019, meaning black folks are being cheated out of being able to create wealth because of the color of their skin. But it's not just housing, right? I mean, almost every aspect of living in America has been radically racialized. Housing is no different. It is unfortunate that this is still going on. I live in D.C. and you kind of see the effects of policies like this every day, especially with the gentrification going on in the southeast,

all four quadrants, really. And just seeing people just lose their homes or not being able to get the homes that they want because of real estate agents like this. It's absolutely disgusting. It's happening all over the country. And you can see the evidence of that by the way who's buying houses, who's losing homes, how wealth is growing in this country or isn't growing in this country. I am very anxious to see the full report. That'll be something I do when I get home tonight. But from what I just heard, it's just really sad because there should be no reason for it. There is no real reason for us to not be where we need to be just in order to live. Melit, this shouldn't surprise anyone. And it's interesting, if we think about the pre, you know, crash of 2008, 2009,

if we actually think about that, you know, the number of, we were talking then about the housing crisis. We were talking, the foreclosure crisis. We were talking about predatory lending. Predatory lending that largely affected black and brown people. So here we are so many years later still talking about an instance that's kind of closer to home in New York City of all places, not in Mississippi, not in Texas, not in Alabama, Louisiana. We're talking about Long Island in New York. So this really isn't surprising. But I, you know, like with Kelly, I actually look

forward to seeing the full report, but whatever they can do to remedy the situation, you know, in New York, they need to put pressure on Cuomo. They need to put pressure on, you know, the mayor of Long Island. I don't know exactly who that is, but they need to put pressure on those politicians and they need activists out there who are engaged on these sort of issues to make sure that we're not continuing to get shorted when it comes to issues like fair housing. You know, whatever violations the federal government needs to take over in that. But, Teresa, the real pressure needs to be on the Department of Housing and Urban Development because they are the ones who should be sending in testers. They're the ones who should be eradicated. This is a violation of the Fair Housing Act.

That's what this is. The owners should not be on a newspaper, do the work of HUD. I agree. And Secretary Ben Carson, I think, is he still over HUD? Mm-hmm. Guess what? You never know. But officially, yes.

Yes, he is. He is, for now. Good. Okay. So, right. So him and the rest of his bureau directors need to really go in there and analyze and take some of that budget, really get into those communities, really contact those elected officials and let them know that there is a plan and a budget to be put in place if they really want to

combat that. If the Trump administration wanted to do anything, anything to kind of, you know, start to change the narrative outside of what it is now with these impeachment hearings this is something that they can absolutely do and this will get the attention of media but I will hope more so it starts to change some of the perceptions not only in Long Island but in other states that you know going on across the country. All right, folks, that's really appreciated. Hold tight one second. We come back.

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first shot at the market during the first year of legalization talk to the response their concerns which allows existing program which allows which program which allows existing dispensaries to sell recreational marijuana beginning january 1st and to open a second location saying it did not go and do enough to lift up communities most harmed by the war on drugs. This, Malik, has been an issue that I have raised. We saw this in Maryland. We've seen this by the Black Caucus in New York, where African-Americans are saying that the people who have been most impacted by communities ravaged, by people going to prison because of marijuana. African-Americans

should be first in line when it comes to getting these licenses. But what we're seeing is that's not the case. And so I think that this is definitely not isolated to Chicago. This is definitely a national thing. If you look at the jurisdictions, the states that have actually legalized marijuana, whether that's Colorado or Vegas or California, Maryland, and even here in the district, the conversation is we've always had these conversations about what type of benefits will, especially as far as licensing, will that be equity for blacks, if you will. Some places do it a little better than others. I think D.C. probably does it a little better than others because we do have a couple of black-owned dispensaries here in the district. But as far as a nationwide thing, I don't know if I necessarily, even though I support blacks getting licenses and things like that, I don't know if I really understand the argument as far as linking communities that have been impacted by, I guess, marijuana, criminalization of marijuana laws. I don't know if I understand the argument that the city of Chicago, where some of the people

in Chicago are making about how people, how communities that have been impacted by the legal, the people who've been impacted like ours, people who've been impacted by the marijuana laws. I don't know if I under necessarily understand what they mean when they say equity from that point of view. I support dispensaries, but I don't I don't necessarily understand what they mean when they say communities impacted by these marijuana laws. Teresa is not real hard to understand. African-Americans, significant number of people still sitting in prison for selling marijuana. And you have whites in America who are reaping the financial benefit of marijuana now being legal. It ain't that hard. It isn't hard. And actually, here in Pennsylvania, it's two parts that's a disgrace. One is how the licenses were given out here.

I think there was probably one African-American firm out of 30 that was issued licenses. And then, two, we still have, especially in PA, so many prisons and counties across the Commonwealth that still have those who are in prisons for marijuana have not been released yet. And so what they say is it goes by county to county issue. So yes, this is a huge portion of mass incarceration and criminal justice reform. But it's so interesting to see when this is happening to black and brown people that, again, the white people are now capitalizing. They're capitalizing again when we're in prison and they're getting a check and then they're getting a check for legalizing it. And the people who were. It's so interesting. I can go through this whole thing, but it's really astonishing. I don't understand why, you know, look, Kelly,

if you've had communities that have been adversely impacted about when marijuana was illegal, why not say those folks should be first in line for dispensary? I mean, that should be the solution, right? Not only should that, I think it should be a couple layers to this solution. Not only should the communities impacted by, you know, the war on drugs and criminalization of marijuana, not only should they be first in line for these licenses, but the convictions of those who were, who are imprisoned because of said legislation and laws retroactively should be expunged. So I feel like that would be true justice in that situation because it makes no sense for you to have this decriminalization of a contraband and the people who are in jail for that same contraband, even though it's no longer illegal, they're still in jail for it. And frankly, they shouldn't have been

in jail for that in the first place because of, you know, a slew of other issues. So the fact that Chicago has this problem isn't surprising to me because it's across the United States for the cities who are in the process of expunging, rather, the convictions of those in jail for the exact same action that people are profiting off of. Yeah, I think Kelly raises a good point, but I think we're also conflating what's happening around the country. And it's really happening, the decriminalization of marijuana. That's one thing. But if we're talking about licensing for dispensaries, that's a totally different thing. And I'm more so of a proponent of let's make sure that people, you know, black people actually

get these licenses rather than black people who live on it, like whether people who live in southeast D.C. or the south side of Chicago have access to these licenses. There are places I want black people to be able to get these licenses in white neighborhoods. So it's not just in black neighborhoods. So when you say communities impacted. This is not about Kelly, go ahead.

I think Roland and I are about to say the same thing. It's not necessarily about black people in certain neighborhoods getting these licenses, but they should be prioritized because the criminalization of marijuana started in those communities. So what is the best way to rectify the impact of that, you know, frankly, racist type of criminalization?

The best way immediately to try and rectify that is to make sure that those communities have first dibs on those licenses. Not saying that they must get a license for that community, but the opportunity should present itself to those communities first so that they can try and rebuild what was broken by way of the criminalization of something that should have been criminalized in the first place. But are we talking marijuana licensing just black people in general or communities that have been affected by it? So, for instance, the South Side of Chicago, certain parts of New York City, certain parts of Washington, D.C. Are we talking about that, like people in Ward 8, Ward 7 and 8, D.C. Well, it just so happens those are predominantly black neighborhoods. I don't think that you can

just say, hey, you black person, only you can have priority over this license. I mean, I'm pretty sure there are laws on the books to say that segregation and, you know, racial discrimination in that regard is wrong. But the principle still stands that the, like you said, war at eight, South side of Chicago, Baltimore, what have you, these are predominantly black areas in major metropolitan areas. So if you say, hey, this area gets first dibs, what's going to happen? Likely, very likely that black people are going to get those first. And that is what the opponents of said solution are afraid of. Do you not do you not see what the issue is? Well, again, that's why I said I think we're conflating or maybe I'm just totally misunderstood because because I support you totally.

I think you're totally missing it I think what we're saying is that if you have look it's not hard this is not hard at all and that is what group of people has been most impacted by marijuana law black people law. Black people. What we're saying is that now that marijuana is becoming legal in these states, worldwide, it's a $340 billion industry. Who should be first in line to benefit economically from the legalization of marijuana when the people who were first in line for the war on drugs, communities that were ravaged and attacked, black people. Okay. Now, if that's the argument, then no, I don't agree with that. Overall, I agree with setting aside whatever type of point system or something to benefit minority black and brown

communities. I absolutely support that. And as I said, there are cities around the country that have been focusing on that, particularly Washington, D.C. And I think that's why, and Ward 8 in the ward that I live, I think that's why we have a black-owned dispensary in Ward 8 now. So I totally support the notion of Ward 8. But this notion that somehow communities, you know, because black people have been impacted most, then that's why we should get, you know, first dibs on licensing. I kind of push back on that. I don't think I don't see that as the reason why we should it because our communities have been impacted.

I'm I'm talking about an equity argument. We should be at the table, period. Whether we were impacted or not, this is a business. Yes, but the equity argument is that of anybody who was most impacted by marijuana laws has been black people. Yeah, but I don't I don't agree with I don't agree with the impacted. You get this right. I absolutely get it. And it's a bit interesting to hear that point of view. I'm totally agreeing with you that we should all be at the table. But again, since we were the ones

that still elected officials, Republican elected officials, white ones at that, are still getting their piece of the pie first and probably in their district because I said probably because I don't know if it's actually true, but

they probably have individuals and constituents in their district who are probably still in prison right now because of a marijuana charge. So for me, if that person comes out of prison at the certain time for a marijuana charge, you would think an apology happens and also a lead to the front of the line to now get some equity back on that if their plan is developed properly. Now that part I don't agree with because people were locked up, then those people who were locked up or who were affected by marijuana laws should get first. For the charge. Yeah, but even about the charge. Right, but being locked up for a charge, that should not give you first dibs on marijuana licensing,

because at the time that you were incarcerated, marijuana was illegal. You know, depending on where you were, marijuana was actually illegal. That's the whole basis of our point. And the point is, because you stole lives and so years of my life. So it could be from five to ten when it was illegal, now that there is an epiphany that it is legal, there should be some sort of conversation, conversation, really, and some more equitable reasoning. That's the only way you fix the solution, and that's the only way you come back to the table saying, okay, you know what?

We're sorry. Here's the compensation. Now go ahead and grow since we stole your years. Well, now that I don't necessarily. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know what? Let me just go to the next door because this gives me a damn headache because I don't understand why this is so damn hard. But I'm going to need Mellick to explain why in the hell Senate Republicans can't pass a simple damn bill to give $255 million to HBCUs and other institutions. Now, of course, it was passed by the Democratic-controlled House.

The college president said the funding is viable to fill the pipeline of minority graduates flowing into STEM professions. But days before the funding expired, Tennessee Senator Lamar Alexander, Republican, the chairman of the Senate Education Committee, he decided to block it. Education Department, they said the money for the current appropriation will carry on to the next year with the uncertainty surrounding it. How hard is this, Melick? I mean, it's not like Republicans in the Senate are doing a hell of a whole lot. They're not taking up any of the damn bills Democrats have passed.

And so how hard is it to pass a damn bill to fund $255 million for HBCUs and other schools? What the hell is your party doing? What I've been reading about for the past several weeks since this story first broke is, from what I understand, is that the Republicans actually want to pass a permanent funding mechanism for HBCUs. What Democrats want to do, they want to pay, I think it's a stopgap measure or something, for a two-year. So it's like a two-year extension of, well, I can't think of what the act is now, but they want to pass. So we have Republicans want a permanent solution. Democrats want a two-year extension from where we are now.

Actually, actually, actually, let me give you the facts here. The Democratic House has already passed the bill. Right. Yes. Yes. I'll say this. This is not hard. Republicans could actually could actually approve the House bill and still introduce another bill to make it permanent. Well, you can do two things at one time. Well, sure. But if we're going to be fully if we're going to be fully transparent and informative here, what we have to also acknowledge is that the Republicans actually said, well, hey, we want a we want a permanent funding mechanism for HBCUs. What they've also said is that as part of that funding mechanism, it's tied to reforms in the Higher Education Act. What Democrats are concerned about, they're saying that, well, if we pass this now,

if we go, because what the Republicans have, even what Senator Alexander introduced, he actually added to that program where he's talking about, you know, federal student aid, you know, making the financial aid form more user friendly, if you will. So they've talked about reforms as part of the Higher Education Act that are actually bipartisan issues. Republicans are saying, hey, we want a permanent funding mechanism for that. And as part of that funding mechanism, we want to add to that reforms in the Higher Education Act. They're not saying that they don't want any funding or anything like that. The Democrats are saying, well, no, we want a two year extension from where

we are now. And let's come back and deal with those reforms in the Higher Education Act. But it's not as if Republicans are saying.... Actually, actually, actually, Kelly, what actually was going on here is, is you have one bill that's been passed by Democrats. Republicans want to deal with several other issues. What Democrats are saying is, this $255 million, which $85 million of that will go to HBCUs,

Democrats are saying, yo, deal with that as a separate issue versus no no no no no no no follow me let me say it again there's a difference between saying let's do this huge comprehensive deal which we know has many tentacles has many different pieces to it what i'm saying is is, pass a simple, clean bill. That's all you got to do, Kelly. This ain't hard. And to Malik's point about the comprehensive plan

that the Republicans are trying to roll out, that's not necessarily a bad idea. But to your point of that plan, Roland, having multiple tentacles, who's to say that the House bill that just came through by the Democrats isn't one of those tentacles? So for the Republicans to deny on the Senate side this bill truly passing is pretty despicable. Why? Because $85 million, I think that's the number that you said, Eighty five million dollars for one hundred and five HBCUs is virtually nothing.

Comparatively speaking, we talked about last week how Maryland is basically fighting over half a billion dollars just for four schools. And you're talking about eighty five million amongst one hundred and 105 plus. I mean, this is ridiculous. This is absolutely ridiculous. And it's petty of the Republican Party on the Senate side to hold up that little bit of money for an entity within higher education to use. It's just not fair. Teresa, again, the Future Act is what it is called. And what you have here, this was a statement from Michael Lomac of the UNCF. He said that it is a no-brainer for lawmakers to immediately pass this bill. He said that I have spent over 50 years of my life in higher education and I know the importance of the H.E.A. However, first things first, pass the Future Act. And that's my point.

You can do both. It's not either. Yeah, you can absolutely do both. And it just seems like the Republicans are just kind of holding out for something more from the Democrats to get. It's one of those. It kind of just seems like another dangling fruit. Right. Because it's something they can do. They know they can do it. And so waiting to put it in a whole comprehensive package plan, we might not see that plan for another five years or 10, who knows? But at this point, this is something they can do.

This is something they won't do. I think, you know, I think it's probably because we're doing a lot, right? The Republicans, not Republicans, Democrats are acting, them to, you know, do their jobs, essentially, and then work on part two. So this shouldn't be hard. But I think, again, like everybody else has reiterated already, we've got to put the pressure and HBCUs really do need to step it up as it relates to advocacy on this issue. All right, folks.

Well, first of all, they've been very vocal on this, Congressman Alma Adams and others. But remember, House has already passed now the issue goes into the senate we'll see what they do folks let's talk about this story uh you might remember uh diamond riddle she was the girlfriend of flando castillo she was in the car when he was shot and killed she received a settlement of eight hundred thousand dollars uh from the city there but tom mcg, a Rice County Sheriff's Deputy and a city council member in Elysian, Minnesota. This is what he tweeted.

She needs to come off county and state aid now that she has some cash. It'll be gone in six months on crack cocaine. Now, he is now the mayor of that city and Reynolds is suing him. The suit alleges that his tweet was defamatory, false, and racially motivated. Sounds to me like she got a damn good case there, Teresa.

Teresa? Yes. I'm sorry. Sounds to me like she got a damn good case there. The man says she's going to be on crack cocaine oh absolutely so I listen I hope she finds the right

attorney to actually get that across you know so she can get reap her reward because honestly this is a travesty Kelly She can get reaper reward because honestly, this this is a travesty. Kelly, I'm just tired of racist today, every day, really. But this this just kind of takes the cake, considering that she unfortunately had earned that money by way of of that man's actions and the county's actions uh killing her uh fiance i believe it was her fiance or husband uh philando castile was i mean it's just it's just sad how

you have to basically diminish and and defile someone's character in order to make you feel good about your wrong actions. And that's really all I have to say about that. It's just, it's disgusting. Well, Malik Kelly said that she is just so tired of racism. You know what that means? No. What is it?

Obviously, you don't watch this show enough. Folks, roll it. No charcoal grills are allowed. I'm not a... I'm white. I got you, Carl. Yeah, it's illegally selling water with our permit on my property. Whoa!

Hey! I'm uncomfortable. Alright, folks, this is the 11 minute video. We're not going to play all of it. But a black man was trying to just throw out the damn trash. And some crazy ass white woman rolled up on him. Let's play. I'm sorry.

What are you trying to say? I can't throw away the trash. You can't throw away your trash in our van. Yes, I can. No, you can't. Yes, I can. Could you please leave me alone or I'll call the police? You're harassing me.

You are harassing me. Thank you very much. It's-1-1 okay i will got a racist lady here that's a big mistake on your part okay oh look Look. Throwing away the trash. You know, you want me instantly famous. Hi. You want me instantly famous.

You know that, young lady? Come on. Here, let me close the door for you. See how much of a gentleman I'm being for you? Florida. You're excused. What's your name and what are you doing here? Please. You're excused. What's your name and what are you doing here? Please, you're excused, ma'am. You're harassing me?

You are harassing me. I will call the police if you don't leave. Okay? Call the police. Thank you. What is your name? Martha. Show me your license.

Do you live here? Show me your license. Show me yours. Show me yours and I'll show you mine. Wow. This is Florida, folks. Here we go, Martha. We have to pay extra for people to come clean out. And we pay extra too. All right. Why do you think I, why do you think I live here? Because of the way I look?

Because. Why? Until two weeks ago, I was president of the homeowners association. And to my knowledge, I know everybody who lives here. Okay. That's the only thing. So why did you assume that I don't live here because you don't know me? Because there's only 42 buildings. Only 42 buildings.

You knew every single person in 42 buildings? Where do you live? Huh? Do you know every single person in 42 buildings, ma'am? Thank you very much. I rest my case. Do me a favor. Enjoy the rest of your day.

Stop with the fake laugh and just go. All right. It's not a fake laugh. Enjoy your day. I mean, we have this happen all the time. Kelly, this is an 11 minute video. It's not until a white female neighbor comes out and goes, what are you doing? The guy lives around here, but the woman backs the hell off. This guy, first of all, if I was him, I would call the cops on her ignorant ass in the first two minutes. But this is literally the harassment that black people have to deal with just for being black and just for throwing the trash out. How much of a life does this woman not have to mind the business of someone else doing something as simple as taking out the trash?

Like, and she tried to prove her point or, you know, justify her questioning by saying that she used to be president or whatever, the home association, and it's like 42 or so buildings or homes in that area. But one, she said former, which means that you don't need to know this information anymore. You don't have the right to ask this person anything about your neighborhood anymore because it's none of your business anymore. And then secondly, you're telling me that, you know, the owners and residents within 42, uh, establishments in this neighborhood, I find that extremely hard to believe, especially considering that she really couldn't even give us a reason as to why she was asking him, um, about his business in the first place. So she just needs to go on somewhere,

you know, back to her home, one of 42 and just mind her business. It costs absolutely nothing to mind your own business. It is free. One of the few things in this world that is absolutely free. Just do it. Leave people alone. it'll help you out it was trash it was trash and she literally was blocking him she was blocking him from driving away it's a disgrace uh it looked like the woman wanted a confrontation she She wanted to exude whatever power she felt she had. I actually found it a bit shocking for her. I think she said she left the homeowners association as she was president at that two months ago. I can only imagine the decision she was making as president because she pretty much knows all 42 residents that that are in there and what it sounded like

to me she was basically saying there was nobody black on the roster right until she left and then some african-americans moved in which is really unfortunate um it was again this is what we have to deal with daily what we have to do is keep doing what we're doing horizontally showing their ignorance and hopefully it brings a bright light to a better solution for a safer tomorrow there's going to be more stories like this melek and the bottom line is because you got white folks uh who want to use their white privilege to harass black people because essentially they want to be like in South Africa, show our papers to prove we belong. Well, I think you said that the clip was about 11 minutes for me. Yeah, it's 11 minutes. Yeah. So probably about nine minutes too long for me

because after two minutes, the police would have been called and there would have been a lot of other stuff that you would have seen or heard on that video than the niceties that he actually extended her because there would have been no opening. There would have been none of that if it were me. So at that point, her ignorance would have been met with my ignorance, and it would have been a different scene. But, I mean, you know, we continue to see these things. It's unfortunate.

Good that it's on camera. Good her face will be all over television as it should be. Good for her. Got her. Absolutely. All right, Paul. Hopefully she has a job. She'll lose it.

It's probably black and a pop court. All right, folks. I got to go. I'm heading to Langston University for their midnight programs, the angle program that they do as a student's gear for study for the final week of finals. I'm here on behalf of Ford Cares, and we look forward to serving some food and being able to chat with the students and mix with them. I'll have some video and photos to follow my social media accounts.

Also, tomorrow I'll be broadcasting live from the White House at Tyler Perry Studios. Of course, a democratic debate taking place tomorrow night at Tyler Perry Studios. And so we will be broadcasting from the lot. Thanks to Atlanta America, Keisha Lance Bottoms and Tyler Perry as well. So looking forward to that. So I'll see you guys tomorrow. Don't forget to support Roller Mark and Filter by going to RollerMarkAndFilter.com. Joining our Bring The Funk Back Club You can support us Via Cash App

PayPal and Square Alright folks I'll see you tomorrow Teresa thanks a lot Malik Kelly thank you so very much Folks I gotta go

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