#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 12.3 Jon Ossoff GOTV GA rally; Kamala Harris picks chief of staff; Kyle Rittenhouse to stand trial

Episode Date: December 4, 2020

12.3.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Jon Ossoff GOTV GA rally; Kamala Harris picks chief of staff; Kyle Rittenhouse to stand trial; Pastor banned from Alamance County property; Coronavirus update: New vac...cine to roll out soon; Crazy a$$$ TikTok Karen + Raheem DeVaughn talks new musicSupport #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 We'll hear from him as well as some of the folks who were here. Also, Vice President-elect Kamala Harris has chosen her chief of staff. We'll tell you exactly who she is. In North Carolina, why is a prosecutor trying to get a black man removed from the county, saying he's a threat to the community? Really? That's how we're now rolling? Okay, gotcha.
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Starting point is 00:03:32 The best you know, he's Rollin' Martin Now Martin Stop, stop. Folks, we're here in Georgia where the Senate runoff is in full swing. Monday is the deadline to register to vote in the January 5th runoff. John Ossoff faces incumbent David Perdue. Pastor Raphael Warnock faces Senator incumbent Kelly Loeffler.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And so it has been a knock-down, drag-out battle already, and it will intensify even more so. We're here at Grace Christian Community Church, where John Ossoff held a rally today with some students from Kennesaw State University. It was organized by NAACP leaders on that campus. It was a socially distanced event held here, right here in the parking lot of the church, just right behind us. And during his speech, he talked about motivating young folks to vote and talked about how he was inspired to public service when he worked for Congressman John Lewis. Hey, what's going on, KSU? Can y'all hear me all the way in the back out there?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Y'all can hear me out the way out here? You look beautiful. I know we're spread out. I appreciate it. We're taking care of each other. Everyone just take a deep breath. Kind of look around. This is democracy in action. Right now the eyes of the whole nation are on Georgia. And I've been through it with my team a thousand ways. And the bottom line
Starting point is 00:05:19 is that victory in Georgia comes down to young people in Georgia. And that means that the eyes of the whole nation are on young people in Georgia. That means the eyes of the whole nation are on you. The eyes of the whole nation are on us. And the stakes could not be higher. We're living in the midst of a tragedy, a crisis, more than a quarter of a million Americans killed by a virus that our leaders told us was no deadlier than the flu. Y'all heard him. Y'all heard Senator Perdue back in the springtime. He said the risk was low. He said the impact on our economy would be little. All the while, he was buying up stock and makers of vaccines and medical equipment, looking after himself while he opposed relief for ordinary people.
Starting point is 00:06:12 That's not right. We're living in the midst of a crisis. And in order to get out of this crisis, we need Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to be able to get things done. We can't let Mitch McConnell do to them what he tried to do to President Obama. And this is bigger than COVID-19, y'all. If you're wondering what you've been feeling in your hearts for these last four weeks. Maybe for the first time in four years. That's called hope. My first exposure to public service, as Daniel said, as a very, very young man working for
Starting point is 00:07:00 John Lewis. And John Lewis taught about what he called the beloved community. This is a society where we recognize that racism and violence and poverty, they're not given. They're not necessary. They're foolish. Violence and racism and poverty are a failure of imagination. The only thing that stands in our way is corruption. We can have a clean, beautiful, healthy planet. We can ban plastic waste. We can end the destruction of our climate. We can make historic investments in clean and renewable energy.
Starting point is 00:08:03 All of this is up to us. KSU, all of this is up to us. All of this is up to you. All of this is up to Georgia's young people. I don't think that what we're asking for is that complicated. Can we live in a society where every single American has access to affordable housing and health care, education without debt, a living wage? Don't we deserve that as people, as human beings, as Americans? Yes. Don't we deserve equal justice under the law, no matter the color of our skin,
Starting point is 00:08:52 no matter how much money we have, no matter who we know? Don't we deserve that as Americans? When this rally was over, he chatted with the media and took some questions. Historically, young voters, it's been hard to turn them off, When this rally was over, he chatted with the media and took some questions. Historically, young voters, it's been hard to turn them off, especially in runoff races. What are you doing differently from past Georgia Democratic campaigns to make sure they come out? Massive youth organizing. We're running a huge community organizer program to bring lots of young folks directly into the campaign, recruiting volunteers, campus events. And look, COVID-19 has turned the lives of young people upside down. There's also a bigger picture here. Criminal justice reform, a new civil rights act,
Starting point is 00:09:35 a new voting rights act, raising the minimum wage, action on the environment. These are all issues of vital concern to young people. and we're communicating that action on these issues requires victory in Georgia. How do you see the Republican resistance to the election results playing out for you? Do you think it's a help to your campaign that Republicans are openly debating with? I see it as an open attack on the voting rights of black Americans in Georgia. Because when Lindsey Graham, for example, calls Georgia's secretary of state and says, why don't you just throw out some legally cast ballots and throw this state for
Starting point is 00:10:15 the president? What he means is why don't you disenfranchise black voters in Georgia? It cannot stand. The attacks on voting rights are unacceptable. And it's why we need a new Voting Rights Act to secure the franchise for all Americans. Caroline, go ahead. You are going to be on the debate stage against the empty podium at this point on Sunday night. How are you prepared for it? Well, I'll be debating on Saturday, and David Perdue is pleading the fifth. He obviously doesn't believe he can defend his gross misconduct. And let me just say this for everybody.
Starting point is 00:10:51 David Perdue's defense at this point now amounts to the fact that he was not criminally indicted. The fact that he was not prosecuted by the Department of Justice does not clear him of wrongdoing. He has been lying all year. How many reporters, how many news organizations received indignant statements on the record from David Perdue or his spokespeople denying that he managed his own stock portfolio? It was a federal grand jury subpoenaing banking records that found out he does, in fact, order trades himself. So he can brag about how he's not been prosecuted criminally for his misconduct. It doesn't make it any less wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And the people of Georgia are fed up with his corruption and Kelly Loeffler's. Rolling. Can we go to J-Line? Let me get rolling real quick. One of the big issues Democrats don't typically do well with is runoff elections. Mr. Austin, Mr. Stanton. Rollin'. Can we go to Jayla and then we'll go to Rollin'? Let me get Rollin' real quick. Yeah. One of the big issues Democrats don't typically do well with, are you micro-targeting areas where there was weak turnout in general, especially African Americans and young voters,
Starting point is 00:11:57 in getting those cities and trying to get them to turn out? Because that's really going to be the key. This is a turnout race, pure and simple. This is all about energizing grassroots enthusiasm to get out to the polls. And what I said in my remarks, the story in Georgia is very straightforward. You got the young Jewish son of an immigrant running alongside a black preacher who holds Dr. King's pulpit, building a movement for health, jobs, and justice for the people, running against the two most notoriously corrupt members of the U.S. Senate. And it is absolutely about inspiring people out to the polls, defending voting rights
Starting point is 00:12:37 for black Americans, and making sure that everybody understands the stakes of this election. Thank you. So there's a Florida attorney that is trying to get people registered to vote in Georgia that don't actually live here. What are some of your thoughts about people that are trying to get that to happen, trying to sway this vote? This election is for Georgia residents only, and I denounce the conduct of that Republican official in Georgia. And we're going to make sure that we're empowering Georgians to vote in this election and to decide the outcome. Mr. Ross, given that Joe Biden was able to turn this state from Republican red to Democrat blue, what kind of pressure do you personally feel if you're not able to do the same and turn this from a moment into a movement?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Well, we are turning this into a movement. I mean, look at the young people out here today sticking around in this parking lot. Y'all feel it? We are turning this into a movement. This is a movement for health, jobs, and justice being led by two Democratic candidates who are the face of the New South, building a multiracial, multigenerational coalition that demands better for the people, that rejects the flagrant corruption of politicians like David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler. And we recognize the stakes.
Starting point is 00:13:50 They're going to try to do to Biden and Harris just like they try to do to President Obama. We can't afford that in a crisis, not when the stakes are this high. So we are getting out the vote like never before. And the young people who are here today are going to power that effort through to victory on January 5th. And everybody remember, December 14th is the first day of early voting. I appreciate you'all. All right. Thanks everyone for coming out. The person who put it all together is Madison Potts. She is the president
Starting point is 00:14:21 of the Kennesaw State University NAACP chapter. Our vote is our voice, and students have the power. I recognize in this last election that we really turned Georgia blue, and it's important that we use our power and we use our voice and that we do everything that we can to mobilize and not just go out and vote, but we bring our friends, that we text, that we phone bank, and that we use our power in every way that we can to be sure that we support candidates that are for our causes. Now, of course, within your capacity at NAACP, that's separate because NAACP does not endorse candidates, and so as you as an individual who's doing so. Yes. And one of the things that John Ossoff has talked about,
Starting point is 00:15:07 Rafia Warnock, really trying to get young voters to step out. And there are several different areas in the state where black turnout was not strong. What about that, trying to get to those folks to make them understand why the runoff matters? So in terms of reaching out to black voters and young voters, I think it's important to meet them where they're at. So that's why we're so happy to even be able to be at Grace Community Christian Church
Starting point is 00:15:31 today and to reach out to students and bring them to this location because it's great to have events out in the city, but we've got to meet students where they're at and recognize that and help them to see that there's power in their vote and help them to see that candidates care about their concerns. All right, Matthew, we appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you. and help them to see that there's power in their vote and help them to see that candidates care about their concerns. All right, Matthew, we appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thanks so much.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Actress Lynn Whitfield starred, of course, in Greenleaf. Our Lynn Whitfield. First lady of the church, so it was only fitting that she would be out here to speak on behalf of John Ossoff. After she addressed the crowd here, she and I had an opportunity to chat about politics. Hello, Roland Martin. Now, it's not uncommon for you to be sitting in front of a church first lady. Oh. But this ain't Greenleaf.
Starting point is 00:16:18 This is not Greenleaf. I'm so excited because we're out here, the NAACP and Kennesaw University pulled together this rally of young people, people who have just registered to vote, people who have been in the streets protesting and about to do the greatest protest of all, which is to have their voice heard through the vote. Because these young people are the people who are going to keep everybody honest once we vote them in. And I'm in Georgia, the epicenter of everything right now, for Ossoff and Warnock. And this is a rally. We are, what, a month out from the next election.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And it's very exciting. These kids, your brothers were up there stepping and the students are out here very excited and very engaged. So I'm very, very happy about where we are right now, but we have so much work to do. Now for the folks out there who don't know, who don't realize, you are a political junkie.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Let me tell y'all something. When I was out at CNN, Lynch would be texting me when I was on the air. What you doing? I don't text you at work. No, but really, though, because Roland, throughout his time, throughout your time,
Starting point is 00:17:49 you have spoken for our community clearly. And I had access to you when I was so upset about what they were doing and how they were making Sarah Palin a star. This was in 2008. And you helped me to understand how it works. Because I did exactly what you said, you know. So I just want to thank you and y'all. We all need to thank him because he is always on the front line no matter what. You're on the front line for our community, and I so appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:18:22 A lot of people don't want to hear celebrities talk about politics. I don't want to hear celebrities talk about politics. I don't blame them. But you also don't care because you have always been actively involved in not just the election, but also when the election is over. Yeah, well, you know what, Roland? It's not about celebrity. I mean, I just come as a citizen. I come because, you know, my mother is 89 years old and my daughter is still a millennial. I come because I really love this country and I really am so upset about what has been happening over the last four years. So I'm not coming with any authority of my career. I come
Starting point is 00:19:02 with the commitment of like, I just want to be involved in rolling up my sleeves and helping. I mean, look at my, I made this. I made that my boat fashion, y'all. I mean, you know what I mean? I just love America. This is a cool spot and it has to be shared. So I'm not coming like a celebrity you know i just come like a a baton rouge home girl speaking of that as i'm the only election in baton rouge on saturday i know the sister's trying to get re-elected i know we're sending some stuff down and we had a campaign event virtual birthday for her and they're trying all kinds of shenanigans i mean
Starting point is 00:19:46 you know i don't know what they're doing because she knows i'd be there if she needed me but uh we're going to do some more virtual stuff okay yeah it's always a pleasure chatting with you glad to see you out here uh standing up on behalf of john ossoff and rafael warnaz yes indeed they are great men and they will be great senators. So I'm excited. All right. Thanks a bunch. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Thank you. I can't even. Let me get through this. I appreciate it, darling. I appreciate you. Okay. All right. I had a chance to talk with some other young folks out here, including a father who brought
Starting point is 00:20:20 his two children out. They can't vote yet. But he wanted them to come out to this rally so they could understand how important politics is to African Americans. What's your name? Jackson Smith. Jackson Smith? Alright. My daughter Leslie Smith. My son Jackson Smith. Alright, so who's the eligible voter?
Starting point is 00:20:40 Me. Judge Jean? He's coming. He's coming? Me. But you made a's coming. He's coming? But you made a point to make sure to bring them to Brownhill. Why? That's why I came.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Exposure. Exposure. Just to see all the students, young people who care. Who care and want to be out here themselves. So that mainly was it. You wish y'all could vote this election? How old are you? 14.
Starting point is 00:21:04 14? 14. 14? 17. 17. Oh, so you almost, you almost made the cut. Almost made the cut. Almost made the cut. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:15 What's the most important issues for both of you that you want to hear this candidate's address? Don't look at her. I asked you. I guess like the minimum wage. I'm going. I guess, like, the minimum wage. I'm going to get a job soon, so seeing that go up would be good.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Help me a lot. So I take it you want $15 an hour. I mean, I wouldn't. I got you. I got you. How about you? I don't really know. There's got to be one thing that you care about, even though you're 14.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Yeah, money. Right, okay. Minimum wage, going up. You can get a job soon. Yeah, I want to get a job soon. Well, you got four years before you can vote, so I'll give you a little slack there. All right then, well, good seeing y'all. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:00 All right then. Okay, let's see who else I want to talk to. All right, y'all. Okay, seriously? Seriously? It is not that cold. It is not that cold. Thank you. All right then. Okay, let's see who else I want to talk to. All right, y'all. Okay, seriously? Seriously? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:08 It is not that cold. It is kind of. It is not that cold. It really is. This is not Chicago or Minneapolis. All right then. So what brought y'all out here? Well, I'm a part of KAC's NAACP.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Right. My friend Madison, she's pregnant. So I came out for support, to gain more knowledge, so you can see if I'm moving. Are you sure? Yes. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm part of KAC's NAACP. Right. My friend Madison, she's president. So I came out for support, to gain more knowledge, and just be a part of the movement. Do you believe that these candidates, those off and on, are speaking to the issues that you care about? Yeah. Them coming out here alone is spoken of,
Starting point is 00:22:39 just coming out here. She's been traveling a ton, but for people to be able to come out here in close proximity to them, it really does matter, and you actually get more of an outcome with everyone being here. How about you? Yes, I believe that them coming out has definitely helped me go more to college, knowing that they are representing more for the black community and also for college students. Like, that's everything that I am right now. So I do appreciate them coming out and just me getting more information and getting that voice as well.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So I've said this here. You look at the numbers. Millennials and Gen Z is a larger group of the population than baby boomers. And I've had some folks who are millennials and Gen Z has a larger group of the population than baby boomers. And I've had some folks who believe in Gen Z tweet me. They say, well, I wish you all the votes. You do this, this, this. My response is, if you don't vote, you're actually letting somebody else make the choice. So in your conversations with your peers who have said, vote is irrelevant. I don't care. All the candidates are the choice. So in your conversations with your peers, you have said voters irrelevant. I
Starting point is 00:23:48 don't care. All the candidates are the same. It's a waste of time. First of all, have you heard that? And then how have you responded to them? Okay. For me, with my grandfather being heavily involved in civil rights movements and everything, like in his time when he was younger and was able to move around. For me, it's just like I was raised into it, so it's just second nature. But my main response for that is it's like we have so many people right for us to get this right, get this opportunity. Why sit here? Why just sit on it?
Starting point is 00:24:22 Even if you feel like it doesn't matter, you have the opportunity. You have the right. Go out and vote. Get it done. And, you know what I'm saying, exercise your rights. That's the main thing. We have so many people fight for it. So I don't understand why anybody would just sit around and not do it. Any of these conversations, do you turn into arguments?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I'm not a tough person. I don't really like arguments, but I do get my point across. So when I do talk to my friends and stuff, I'm like, yes, it's important. This is why, because they don't really come to me. They tell me their reason, but like she said, it doesn't hurt. It only helps.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So we got that voice, so why not use it? All right, folks. They're only pills. So we got that voice, so why not use it? All right, folks, let's go to our Thursday panel. Erica Savage-Wilson, Georgia native, host of Savage Politics Podcast, Recy Colbert, Black Women Views, and my frat brother, Dr. Greg Carr, chair of the Department of Afro-American Studies at Howard University. Folks, what's happening? Hey. Hey, Roland. Roland. Good to be here.
Starting point is 00:25:33 All right, Erica, I'll start. That's right. Well, that's why we're here. Erica, I want to start with you. We're in your native state. Look, Republicans are in disarray. You got some folks saying don't cast votes. Others still donald trump still yelling voter fraud but the key is going to be turnout turnout turnout that was the question that i put to john osoff rafael warnock knows that as well and there are there are a lot of black folks uh in the first in the metro atlanta area there were a hundred thousand people who voted for joe biden over donald trump who skipped the osoff race and so this it was important for him to be out here talking to these black students because he really has to connect with black voters.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Democrats need both of these seats in order to force a 50-50 tie in the Senate. Vice President-elect Kamala Harris will break that tie. And so it's all going to come down to can they bring out young people, bring out African-Americans to put them over the top? Absolutely, Roland. So glad that you're in the home state of Georgia. You know, one of the things that is critically important as well, you talked about the young turnout, is that the AU Center is right here in the heart of Metro Atlanta and that some of those students will not be on campus. You have a small percentage of students that will remain on campus.
Starting point is 00:26:45 But for those students who need to either cast an absentee ballot or they're going to be voting in person, they need to know how to do that properly. So the ones that will be casting absentee ballots, they need to know that in the third section of that secure ballot that they absolutely need to make sure that wherever they're going to be homesteading away from school, that they make sure that they put that address in that box. But the only way that they'll be able to know that is that if they have a candidate that's out
Starting point is 00:27:13 pushing, letting him know what his platform is, and also advising why it's important for them to get out and either cast that vote by absentee or cast that vote in person. Also, I just want to give a shout out to my hometown of Albany, Georgia, where John Ossoff was a few weeks ago. So what he talked about is platform. He's running on health. He's running on justice and he's running on jobs. That is a message that is very much so needed in Georgia. When you look at Georgia, across the United States, had one of the fifth most poor congressional districts within the state. So him getting out that message, talking to students, imploring them why it is important that they turn out and what their turnout is going to mean for the state, that the 400
Starting point is 00:27:58 bills that lie at the feet of Mitch McConnell will actually, if they go ahead and move forward and we do pick up these additional two Senate seats, will actually, if they go ahead and move forward and we do pick up these additional two Senate seats, will actually move them into reality instead of sitting at the graveyard. So for that work that he's doing, that he has been taking off since the beginning of November and has continued to move nonstop, that he's talking to people across the state of Georgia, particularly in metro Atlanta and in rural counties, definitely is something that is going to help the one million already absentee ballots that have been requested increase. And then we will see on December the 14th and January 5th what those turnout numbers
Starting point is 00:28:35 will look like. Yep. Racy, you saw, of course, Ossoff. He's been hitting David Perdue hard. Perdue has been lying about those stock trades. He has financially benefited from COVID-19. He is refusing to debate John Ossoff on Saturday because he got nailed in the last debate. And so he said, what the hell? I'm not even going to do that. And so you're seeing the line of attack. Both Ossoff and Warnock are going after Loeffler and Purdue, again, for them, trading stocks, making money in the middle of this pandemic when so many Georgians and other Americans have been hurting.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Absolutely. I'm loving the brass knuckles tactics between those two. But I think it's also really helpful to them because you have Republicans in Georgia, people like Lin Wood and Sidney Powell, that are actually doing the work of suppressing or depressing Republican enthusiasm for these two particular candidates, saying that they should, you know, not vote until we figure out what's going on with Georgia and the voting and trying to delegitimize the elections, which has the impact of deterring Republican voters more so than it does Democratic voters. And so they're really getting hit by all sides. I think it's really important to hammer home that message. I don't know how much it necessarily converts
Starting point is 00:29:47 voters, but it certainly does have a deterrence impact. And that's something that Republicans have really figured out, is how to deter higher propensity Democratic or even lower propensity Democratic voters through attacks, through personal attacks. So it actually works. So that's really smart. But more importantly, as Erica pointed out, John Ossoff is really giving a message that's very clear. It's about jobs. It's about health care. It's about justice. And I think that will resonate. I think that it's important to also emphasize to younger voters that they do play a very important role. The last thing I'll say is I do think that it was really wise of John Ossoff to invoke the obstruction that President Obama experienced when he was president. Unlike Twitter, President Obama is exceedingly popular with Black voters,
Starting point is 00:30:30 and he's going to be stumping for both Ossoff and Warnock, I think, tomorrow. And so I think it's very important to remind people that this obstruction is not new, and it will continue if they don't deliver those two Senate seats to the Democrats so that Madam VP Kamala Harris can be the tiebreaker. Passage, that was a movie, Greg, where they said always bet on black. The reality is black folks are going to play a critical role. And, you know, look, there are some places, Athens, for instance, did not have a strong black turnout. This is where black voters matter. This is where until freedom.
Starting point is 00:31:10 This is where fair fight. So many other groups outside of the campaigns have to be critical to get black folks to turn out. Again, we talked to students here about that. They were making that point as well about what is necessary. At the end of the day, this is all turnout. Look, they're going to spend probably $300 million to $400 million on ads. They mean absolutely nothing. You have got to get people out of the house, off of their butts, to the polls.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And Stacey Abrams tweeted just a couple days ago, 900,000, Greg, absentee ballots have already been requested here in Georgia. Yeah, I mean, that's it, Roland. And first of all, thank you for being there. Second of all, thank you for the question you asked, John Ossoff. And his answer was exactly what you said. It's about turnout. Turnout. I have every confidence that the white nationalists in Georgia will turn out in droves.
Starting point is 00:32:09 We know that Laura Ingraham will be talking to that criminal, Perdue, tonight. One-third of all the Senate trades in stock over the six years he's been in Senate were him. 2,596 trades, up to as many as 20 a day, this insider trader who should be in steel bracelets, but he won't be because the white nationalists understand one thing about this thing. It has nothing to do with logic. So when Donald Trump shows up there, just like as Reese said, when Woods, who announced that the MyPillow guy and Mr. Ricky Schroeder helped raise money to get Kyle Rittenhouse out of jail. The same Woods who says, people, don't let them steal
Starting point is 00:32:48 this election. When Woods and them were down there in Alpharetta talking, and when Donald Trump comes down there in a couple of days in Valdosta. Understand, these two things are not mutually exclusive because you're not dealing with logic. They are going to say, see, in their minds, Donald Trump is the president of the United States, and the election
Starting point is 00:33:04 was stolen. And we're going to go vote. You can't think about these things as if whiteness does not know logic. So I'm saying, I have to say that John Ossoff was painting a picture of an America that doesn't exist. But he's appealing to the people who, if the Democrats understand
Starting point is 00:33:19 this, must be appealed to. You must expand the electorate. This is what Stacey Abrams is saying to you. Stop talking to these zombies. They have already been politically killed and now they are the white undead. So you can't reason with them. They're gone. So now you've got
Starting point is 00:33:36 to go get some of those people like the ones you had in the parking lot. You've got to pull in sisters like our sister, third generation HBCU graduate, Howard University, that is, Lynn Whitfield out of Baton Rouge. You got to pull everybody in. Finally, and this is why I'm glad you're there on the ground, Roland, and going to be there for a minute.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Georgia is a microcosm of the future of this country, good, bad, or indifferent. The coming white minority is going to hold on to whiteness after it dies. And so what you're looking at in Georgia, the microcosm is a preview of whether or not this little experiment, which is not a democracy, but a representative republic, a republic, really, like I said, a representative republic, will be able to survive. The first clue as to whether it can survive is going to be be the legislative branch followed by the executive and finally the judiciary but this war at the for the legislative branch is a proxy war for whatever this thing is going to be going forward stop talking in white nationalists and bring everybody
Starting point is 00:34:36 else out to vote but this but this is the key here this is the whole key here, Erica. Black people can make the difference. If black people turn out in early voting on January 5th, the way they did in the general election, that can put Warnock and Ossoff over the top. Okay? You can expect there's going to be a decrease in Republican turnout. Okay? Same thing among white voters. But black, this is why I keep saying to black voters, when we maximize our
Starting point is 00:35:08 voting power, we can actually be the difference. And that will certainly be the case here. Oh, absolutely, Roland. And what I have been so proud to see since being home in Georgia is going home on the weekends to my home of Albany, Georgia, and seeing
Starting point is 00:35:24 the different groups that are coming together, the Southwest Georgia Project, looking at different electives that are continuing since this general election to do canvassing. They are going out and they're talking to people in rural Georgia. They're talking to people in Southwest Georgia. They're talking to people in South Central Georgia because there are people who are young. There are people who have not been talked to, who perhaps did vote in the general election, but weren't aware of this special Senate election runoff, specifically in Georgia, who've not been touched, and that those people are on the ground
Starting point is 00:35:55 doing on-the-ground candidacy, that they're getting people registered to vote, that they're also making sure that people are registered to vote and are requesting their ballots. And then advising people, please do not wait until December the 14th to vote, that you can go ahead and secure your absentee ballot and you don't have to wait till December 14th to turn out. So there are people that are on the ground that are still doing the work. There'll be events that'll be happening on the ground this weekend throughout the rural counties, because what they do understand is exactly what you said, Roland. The key to flipping anything that is winnable is turnout,
Starting point is 00:36:31 turnout, turnout. And so I'm really excited, though, even though we're in the holiday season, we're seeing COVID numbers that are going up, that there are groups that are socially distanced, that they are masking up, and they are going going out and they're urging people in the communities to make sure that they return or that they are securing their absentee ballot to vote and make sure that the Senate indeed works for the people. We live stream the event today, Recy. We're going to be on Saturday. There's going to be a joint rally with Raphael Warnock and John Ossoff taking place in Conyers, Georgia. They's going to be a joint rally with Raphael Warnock and John Ossoff taking place in Conyers, Georgia. There are going to be events, of course, as Erica said, happening all across the state between now and January 5th. The whole push in the next 72 hours is to get people registered
Starting point is 00:37:19 by Monday. And so every single person who's listening, if you've got family, friends, frat brothers, sorority sisters, you know, independents, don't matter. Let them know, because, look, if they don't register by Monday, they actually can't vote. election day. One of the speakers here today said that there are 23,000 young people who will be 18 by election day who could vote in this election. 23,000 votes could decide this race. We saw how close Biden, he won Georgia by less than 15,000 votes. 12,000 votes. 12,000 votes. PeachVote.com. That is the much shorter URL for people to go to so that they can, in fact, get their secured ballot. PeachVote.com. There are people that are throughout the state making sure that you are registered to vote and making sure that you, in fact, do get your secure ballot. Everybody, please go to PeachVote.com. If you're not sure if you're registered to vote, go to the Georgia Secretary
Starting point is 00:38:30 of State's website and check it out. And then if you're not, get registered and secure your absentee ballot today. Rishi, you made the point about, again, the agenda, the agenda. And if you're African-American out there, this is real simple. If Democrats don't win these two seats and they have to win both, that means that Mitch McConnell is in charge. Mitch McConnell will get to decide who is in the cabinet of Joe Biden. Mitch McConnell will decide federal judges. Mitch McConnell will decide what bills come up. So if you're black, are you watching us? Even even if you're not black because we got non-black folks who watches who are white latino guess what if you don't want those idiots controlling the agenda for at least the next two years you better be sitting here uh picking that phone up using social media texting and
Starting point is 00:39:18 calling people saying hey georgians make it happen. I know people are sick of us talking about voting and elections and how you got to do this and, oh, it's doom and gloom. But listen, y'all, we have to complete the work. If you get 85% of the work done, would you go out the house with 85% of your tracks in your head or 85% of your hair braided? No. Would you go to work with a
Starting point is 00:39:46 person to go here 85% of your beer. You know where I got. So we have to complete the work and it's actually one of the least painful things we can do to move this country for y'all might have seen the proposal, this bipartisan proposal that Mitch McConnell's already kind of rejected. There's no money in that for you. If you get those two seats, there's money for you specifically, not just money for corporations, not just money for hospitals, which is important, and local governments, but money in your pocket.
Starting point is 00:40:26 You will not get a stimulus check if Mitch McConnell is the majority leader. They're talking about $300 for unemployment or $400. You're not going to get $600 again like you did early in the pandemic if Mitch McConnell is the majority leader. These are tangible things that are at stake that you can kiss goodbye completely for at least the next two years. Then we got to have even more work to do in the next two years after that if we don't get the Senate, because then everybody's like, well, I don't see what happened. You know, what did the Democrats done for us? Well, did you vote in Georgia so that we can get these Senate seats? So there is so much at stake here. And it's just a
Starting point is 00:41:05 minimal effort to vote, to register to vote, and just complete the work. And then we can all, at least for a little while, sit back and you can complain about whatever you want to complain about. You can demand whatever you want to demand, but nothing gets done without these two seats, period. That's right. It's very interesting, Greg, because yesterday we had a conversation about defund the police. A lot of activists have been highly critical of President Barack Obama for his comments regarding that. Guess what? The reason the George Floyd Justice Act, the reason that act is sitting there, because Republicans control the Senate. Simple as that.
Starting point is 00:41:53 If Democrats win these two, that bill can get passed, barring somebody like Joe Manchin acting a damn fool. He's going to act a fool. But the bottom line is this here. If they don't pick up the two, it's mute. It doesn't matter. They have no shot. And Republicans have already shown they don't care. In fact, Greg, the Republicans are complaining right now that Biden isn't consulting them on his cabinet picks. I'm sorry. Why? Well, again, Roland, this is critical. And let me echo what Recy has said. The most important thing right now in terms of federal electoral politics is to get these two seats.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And that has to be our laser focus. Now, because this is Roland Martin unfiltered, and the folks who watch and participate in this movement, this media movement, are astute enough to understand we can talk and chew gum at the same time. We have to, we can frame it a little bit in the larger context. So number one, it's all about getting these two seats. But let's be very clear. Mitch McConnell has destroyed the United States Senate as we knew it. No, I shouldn't say that. He has revealed the United States Senate.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Donald Trump is just part of a larger thing. What we've seen accelerate is the steady deterioration of white power that has been a steady deterioration since the passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. White people in this country, majority of them have not voted for a Democrat since Linda Johnson in 1968. So this isn't anything new. What has happened, however, what Trump did was accelerate the inevitable confrontation. This is what the white nationalist party has declared, and Mitch McConnell is declaring it. When we are not in complete control
Starting point is 00:43:28 of the entire federal apparatus, we will ignore you. You do not exist. This is the fundamental mistake that Barack Obama made, and I understand why he made it. And by the way, you know, we don't need to talk about Barack Obama and his comments on funding or defunding the police.
Starting point is 00:43:43 He's irrelevant. He's a politician. He's not a black leader, and we can just set him aside. If we were mature, we would set him aside. Although I will say this, all the smoke he's catching, he's earned every little dreg of it. But that hasn't been said. McConnell's thing is, if we're not in complete control, we will ignore you. So whether it be a labor pick that could be attacked from the left, but McConnell's like, no, you don't get to pick your own cabinet. Whether it be this, as Recy said, this stripped down CARES Act extension, which he's not going to pass, or whether it be is the looming debt ceiling, which they will not.
Starting point is 00:44:13 They're not going to do anything. So the Democrats now have to decide. Let's say they get these two seats. Joe Manchin going to act the fool. But the step is to get the two seats and then force a confrontation. The strategy, finally, the Democratic Party is going to have to decide going forward whether they get two seats or not.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Whether they get one of the two seats or not. It's whether or not they're going to hold the line. Let's say McConnell then says, we're just going to ignore you. You don't get your cabinet picks. Do you then? Does Biden Harris then say, we're just going to then allow a cabinet not to be formed in this country and expose and make people make this choice and make some recess appointments at the end of 2021 and force the hand? They're not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Why? Because Joe Biden has already signaled that I'm going to capitulate. They shouldn't even be talking about this less than trillion dollar plan. But why are they doing it? Because they don't understand that this is not a democracy. It's not even a representative democracy in the form of a republic. It is the dying throes of white nationalism. And as far as Mitch McConnell, the leading white nationalist in the federal legislature, is concerned, if they're not in complete control, you don't exist. The Democrats better understand where they live.
Starting point is 00:45:29 At today, Vice President-elect Kamala Harris unveiled more of her staff positions. She announced that Tina Flournoy is going to be her chief of staff. She was a top strategist, an aide to the Clintons. Flournoy has served as the chief of staff for former President Bill Clinton at the course since 2013.
Starting point is 00:45:48 She also held top post at the Democratic National Committee in the presidential campaigns of former Vice President Al Gore and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. And so we'll be seeing more of those announcements. And so the top leadership there, the communications director, the press secretary, as well as chief of staff, all black women receive for Kamala Harris. You know, I'm loving all of this. You know what she needs is exactly what she's doing with Tina Flournoy. She needs somebody's black auntie, somebody's black grandma who ain't sitting up there going finger in the wind based on what's trending on Twitter, who's not worried about winning a news cycle, who's going to be about building the relationships and really positioning VP of that Kamala Harris,
Starting point is 00:46:34 not just for this Biden administration, but for the future as well. So I'm very, very heartened by that. Shout out to my girl Rohini, who is her policy director, just been named today. She's fantastic as well. But I think that it's very important that Kamala Harris is surrounded by incredibly talented, brilliant Black woman, because that is the key constituency that she's going to have to hold on to, not just for the Biden-Harris administration, but for a potential Harris administration. If she can make sure that she's keeping her finger on the post, that she has people that understand the unique needs of our community, that will center our needs, make sure we have that voice on the table, and that we're not just a subplot to all of the other people and, you know, the wine moms and all the other stuff they want to throw out there,
Starting point is 00:47:19 and let's understand the Trump voters, then she's going to be exceptional in this job. So I'm really, really pleased by this announcement. I'm pleased by all of the announcements that she's made. These are incredibly credentialed, talented and bonus black woman. It's very interesting, Greg. We had Congressman Emanuel Cleaver on the show yesterday of Kansas City. And there was some people who were saying, well, I don't get the CBC, you know, why in the world, you know, they're making me, you know, they're saying all of these different things because it's about power. And one of the things that I keep trying to explain to people, it's not just about power in the White House.
Starting point is 00:48:03 It's power on the outside. Because here's what happens. The people who are in major positions in the White House, that's who corporate America grabs for positions after they leave. And so what happens? If you have white folks, white men and white women, Greg, who are in these positions, then they go right into corporate America. They go into lobbying firms. They go into PR firms. They go into PR firms. So guess what? They have the power there and the millions of dollars that comes along with that.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And so people have to understand the demand for African-Americans in a lot of these positions isn't just about the power they can wield inside a government. It's what power they will be able to wield when they leave government. It's true, Roland. I mean, again, this is a very difficult conversation. We're in the middle of a global pandemic that has seen the stock market expand, that has seen the creation of a wave of new billionaires, that has seen in America the existing billionaires, and some of them double or triple or quadruple their net worth.
Starting point is 00:49:10 At the same time, you've got people standing in the equivalent of soup kitchen lines. Radical inequality is going to tear this whole political economy, the global political economy apart. So when you start talking about the politics of demographic representation, the number of blacks who were invited into that tiny group of white elites that manage the affairs of the political economy, you're talking about something that's it's not as important necessarily as what's bubbling up from beneath. So in the case of somebody like Tina Flannoy, of course, overly qualified.
Starting point is 00:49:46 She was Bill Clinton's chief of staff for almost eight years, last eight years. You know, that she represents basically a signal that we're going to reestablish business as usual in terms of a kind of stable American government. Now that's not a bad thing, certainly, because you've got chaos in there right now. You know, the Israelis taking out Iranian nuclear scientists
Starting point is 00:50:09 and America, I'm sure Mike and Pompeo knew about it and going to try to start a war on your way out, executing, so you have to do that. But when you see Nancy McElhaney, she was retired. She served under six presidents. What they're signaling is we're going to reestablish business as usual in American diplomacy. That ain't good for Africa. In. So there's that going on. But what we're really confronted with at this moment, because we're confronted with a moment
Starting point is 00:50:49 when something new is being born, but the old thing hasn't died yet. So these appointments are being pulled from a kind of stock that has been developed, including, as Rishi said, who has been around, a younger generation coming in, but they're coming out of an apparatus that predates Trump. And it comes out of Obama, it comes out of Clinton. In other words,
Starting point is 00:51:13 it's kind of returned to the kind of thing that every administration does with the possible exception of this Trump administration. Why is that necessary to pay attention to? From the bottom up, you've got in the federal legislature now some of those elements of people who don't want to do business as usual, who are now, because the legislature is going to be the first of those three branches that are going to reflect this kind of surge of y'all got to change something. Status quo ain't doing no good. You know, Janet Yellen and them can be proposed, and then the people out there in Detroit can say, you know what, we're going to withdraw this notion of rolling back these industry standards on emissions because we like Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And we was going to do whatever the president did because we do a lot of business with the government. These people coming into federal legislature now like, no, you've got to stop this as business as usual. So what did you see today? House of Representatives, the Democrats nominate Sean Patrick Mahoney to lead the DCCC and defeated Tony Cardenas, who ostensibly was at the Hispanic caucus, who's ostensibly representing part of that surge. Why do they put Sean Patrick Mahoney in there finally? Because he represents this failing and failed strategy. Let's go chase these invisible white working class voters, these white nationalists. And if Democrats aren't careful
Starting point is 00:52:29 right now, they are going to set it up to lose in four years, to lose seats in two, and to have a much more painful confrontation with the end of white power than would be necessary
Starting point is 00:52:41 if we could just simply mobilize new voters and get them in and continue this momentum. But it's going to be very painful if they don't learn that lesson, and it doesn't appear to me that they have. All right, speaking of white power, we're going to go to a break. We come back. A prosecutor in North Carolina, why does he want a black man removed from existing because he said he is a threat to the community we will talk to that brother next on roland martin unfiltered broadcasting live from georgia where we're 72 hours away from the deadline to register to vote in the january 5th runoff
Starting point is 00:53:20 be sure to get that registration in. We'll be right back. You know, it's a lot of people did a lot of things to vote. It wasn't just something that was handed over. You know how many of your ancestors. So when people talk to me about how black they are in their heart, I'm like, but you don't do nothing many of your ancestors. So when people talk to me about how black they are in their heart, I'm like, but you don't do nothing to honor the ancestors for the things that they put in front of you. It's blood on those votes.
Starting point is 00:53:54 You had, these people died and did all type of things in order for you and future generations to be able to vote and you take it for granted as it don't mean nothing, I think that most people just not informed enough on what to vote about and who to vote for. It's like you look on a ballot, you'll see Proposition 1 through 10. You don't know what any of the propositions are.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Nobody educated you on prop one, how's it gonna directly affect your community? How's it gonna directly affect elderly? How's it gonna directly affect the future? How do you not know and you vote for something blind? Or you don't vote for something blind? Or you see a name, you have no clue who this person is. And you just, all right, it's all Democrat,
Starting point is 00:54:48 I'm gonna vote for everybody on the Democratic. Like, sometimes we be voting for people who ain't got no backbone. I still think in my mind, who are the people that we voted for that we put in office that chose to accept that they couldn't nominate a Supreme Court justice. They accepted that. The Republicans told them they couldn't do it
Starting point is 00:55:11 because it's a lame duck president. What you mean? Right. What do you mean? Love your neighbor as yourself. It's a value we all try to live by, but in Washington, it's been forgotten. It's clear.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Our politics are broken, overcome by a selfishness that rewards money and power, leaving far too many of us out of the conversation. I'm Raphael Warnock, and I see you. I see too many communities left behind, too many hardworking people ignored. I'm running for Senate to be your voice. That's why I approve this message. I'm John Ossoff, and the path to recovery is clear. First, we listen to medical experts to control this virus. Then we shore up
Starting point is 00:56:01 our economy with stronger support for small businesses and tax relief for working families. And it's time for a historic infrastructure plan to get people back to work and invest in our future. We need leaders who bring us together to get this done. And that's why I approve this message. one senator in particular irks me a senator kelly loffler not elected but appointed just a couple months ago calls across the political spectrum for the resignation of Republican Senator Kelly Loeffler of Georgia. Loeffler, her husband is the chairman of the New York Stock Exchange.
Starting point is 00:56:53 I know that sounds like a joke about rich people in an Adam Sandler movie. That's a real thing. He owns the Stock Exchange. So they're two regular down-home folks. One of the first things they did after they found out just how bad the coronavirus would be during closed-door Senate briefings was sell a huge amount of stock. You sold over a million dollars in stocks in your own personal portfolio before the market went down. They were making a bunch of moves in the stock market to make sure their portfolios were protected instead of making
Starting point is 00:57:26 sure you were protected. New congressional disclosures show that law force sold far more stock than we initially knew. $18.7 million in stock trades. While there are those who would dismiss it and say, well, she's worth so much more. I've never met a wealthy person who didn't want more money. Not only did she sell stuff, but then she bought stuff. And one of the items she bought was to help people who have to work at home software. There's a reason Kelly Loeffler is spending 25 plus or $30 billion. She don't want people to know about her past. So she owns part of Atlanta's WNBA team.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And there are calls for her to give up that ownership now. Truth is with Kelly Loeffler, her own ambitions and her own elite friends come first, and the president, the rest of us, come second. Folks, this woman is knee-deep in the swamp, and she just got there. We should have leaders who actually respect the people. If Loeffler knew about these trades, she should leave office.
Starting point is 00:58:24 The voters of Georgia had the opportunity to ballot box you out. I'm Bill Duke. This is DeOlla Riddle, and you're watching Roland Martin, unfiltered. Stay woke. Oh, it must be something to be a threatening black man. Yesterday, a judge in Alamance County, North Carolina, denied a prosecutor's request to bar my next guest from county property. The prosecutor actually said his brother was a threat, a danger to the community, and insisted that Reverend Greg Drumwright and the supporters are likely to riot. Why? Because they have been organizing marches dealing with the issue of early voting.
Starting point is 00:59:33 And that was, of course, if I remember correctly, we played you the video where a group of demonstrators were pepper sprayed on the way to the polls. However, the judge said the prosecutor's motion simply was too broad and inadequate. Guess what? On Monday, Reverend Drumwright and the others marched to try to get the charges against the protesters dropped. He joins us right now on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Reverend, how are you doing? Good evening, Mr. Martin. It's good to see you again since you was last in the streets with us at North Carolina A&T.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. Why are you scaring these white folks in North Carolina? Hey, man, I'm actually in my hometown. And all of this is going on where I grew up in Alamance County, particularly Graham, North Carolina. We were leading folks to the polls on the final day of one stop early voting registration. And here we are still fighting for our rights. We showed that video. We remember when it happened. And because of what
Starting point is 01:00:49 they did, there were people who they pepper sprayed who couldn't register that day. Exactly, Roland. Literally, I was being released from jail and I noticed a brother about five minutes before me in the process. And I didn't even think that he knew who I was. I just acknowledged him. And seeing that he was about to leave the jail, knowing that election day was three days later, I just asked him, like I've been asking everybody, hey, bro, are you voting?
Starting point is 01:01:20 He turned around and looked at me and said, Reverend Drumwright, I was actually going to vote with you today. And so that moment, the disappointment of that moment has stuck with me ever since October 31st. In Graham, North Carolina, in my own hometown, where I've been organizing against white supremacy and racial inequality. We were, our peaceful get out the vote rally was interrupted by kefir spray that they released, not one, not two, but three in three different occasions on a large crowd of peaceful marchers and potential voters and things. We had elderly people in the street lying in the street, suffering from the pepper spray. We had five-year-old, seven-year-old
Starting point is 01:02:14 kids that have suffered from those traumatic events. And we've been fighting ever since then. Well, folks need to understand that this is not the first time folks in North Carolina have done this. In fact, state legislators actually banned Reverend William Barber and others from the state capitol saying they were protesting and making too much noise. They eventually lost that battle in court. And so what this prosecutor is essentially saying is, you do not have a First Amendment right to protest, which is a constitutional guarantee in this country. Yeah, bro, the story actually starts even before what's happened? It played out this week. Earlier in the summer, the city officials in Graham, North Carolina, lifted a ban of anyone that was standing in the street or on the sidewalk and had a Black Lives Matter sign or was saying no justice, no peace, they would be locked up and sent away. And so we had to sue the city of Graham.
Starting point is 01:03:32 The lawyers committee represented me and the NAACP in the case to sue the city of Graham to get a temporary restraining order on that ban for peaceful protest. So this has been playing out ever since George Floyd's summer has begun. So yesterday, I had to listen to a DA argue on the behalf of the state of North Carolina that I was a danger to the community of Alamance County. And all that we've been doing is peacefully organizing. Looks like we lost Reverend Drumright there. I want to bring in Erica. Erica, the point that he just made there is a critical one, and that is, is Reverend Drumright still there?
Starting point is 01:04:38 I'm still here. Okay, gotcha. Sorry, we had lost your connection there. I want you to finish. You dipped out there. The last question for you, is this the end of this process, or are y'all still battling them over those charges from that March and October? Roland, we are out on bond, but still fighting for our freedom that is literally my sentiments um i am still facing trumped up felony charges for simply working to lead people to the polls on october 31st i am literally still fighting those charges we We have more than a dozen people that
Starting point is 01:05:29 have been fighting against these charges. We call them the Graham 12, free the Graham 12. I'm literally the new face of what a felon could be in my own home county. And so we need everyone in America that believe in peaceful protests, that believe in fighting for equal rights, that believe in fighting for voter rights, that believe in fighting against voter suppression. This is what voter suppression looks like in 2020. So I encourage you all,
Starting point is 01:06:03 get in touch with us on our website, j4tng.org. Justice for the Next Generation, free the Gram 12 in Alabama. All right then, Reverend. We certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Keep giving them hell there in North Carolina. I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Erica Sandwich, I want to go to you. I mean, this is, look, this is what you're seeing and what you're dealing with is what we saw take place in Ferguson when they just came up with rules and, oh, you can't actually stand for a few seconds.
Starting point is 01:06:39 That's just what we're dealing with here, Erica. Yeah, we're just seeing it now on a more exacerbated level. And then even thinking about, you know, when we talk about people who are folks of faith, I wanted to ask Reverend Drumwright, has he received any support from the white evangelical community? Now, I think we all know the response to that question, but I think that in girl, you know, dog on whale, you know, dog on whale, them white evangelicals ain't saying nothing. They still trying to run up to Paula White. However, but there. Looks like we lost Erica Reeseisi. Pick up on that.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Yeah, one thing I do want to point out is, you know, I've seen a lot of people comment on how, you know, Trump has lost so many lawsuits and, you know, how this election was the most secure election to date. But we cannot ignore the fact that this kind of voter suppression exists, and it has tangible consequences for people's real lives. When you're targeting black pastors or activists for felony charges, whether it's about voting, a nonviolent peaceful protest for voting or marches to vote, or whether it's protesting the death of, or the murder, I should say, of Breonna Taylor. So we cannot get complacent. We cannot say, oh, well, the system is working perfectly fine because, you know, Biden and Harris prevailed and Trump lost his lawsuits and his election challenges. We have to really tackle these kind of voter suppression tactics. And I'm very encouraged by the lawyers committee, which is always on top of these kinds of things and their involvement.
Starting point is 01:08:28 But, you know, like he said, he's not out of the woods yet and it's just completely unfair. But, you know, what we also have to understand, I'm sure Dr. Carr will be the first to say this, is that his grievance or his offense was violating the sanctity of white supremacy. And that's what happens when black people vote. So again, you know, it's not about the system is white supremacy. The system is white nationalism. And they can make up whatever rules they want to. They've shown that repeatedly as they go along to keep us in our place. So our votes are just one way of showing an act of resistance to that system.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Now, it's not going to dismantle it. I know, Greg, you're going system. Now, it's not going to dismantle it. I know, Greg, you're going to say that. It's not going to dismantle it. It might hold us off a little bit. But, you know, it can help us not be extreme white nationalism, maybe a little bit less extreme. Okay, is that okay, Dr. Carr? Did I get that right? I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:09:23 I'm with you. That's right. But the thing here, Greg, for all these people who say how safe it was, the bottom line is we still had to deal with massive voter suppression. We can't forget what Donald Trump and the Republicans allowed to take place with the Postal Service. They tried to steal the election. And if they did not catch the hail from that judge, that black judge, Emmett Sullivan, from those from Democrats in Congress, they would have kept thousands or millions of ballots from arriving on time. That was their plan. That was their plan, Roland. In fact, I got a text a second ago from somebody that said
Starting point is 01:10:10 they wanted to know whether you were out there in that parking lot by yourself, and I assured them that you were not because you were in the South. No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. There's four of us here. There's four of us here. But really, I'm really following up on, and I'm in full agreement, Recy, with you. You know, we are, these are, we have to have tactics that push back our open enemies.
Starting point is 01:10:34 We can't win a war in one fell swoop. This is almost a three-century criminal enterprise we're in now, and we have we have to fight incrementally and sometimes we suffer setbacks so for example. Let's talk about another North Carolina and T student body president which is you just interview one. I'm done right great done right. Let's talk about another. I'm Jesse Jackson who transferred from the University of Illinois because we're part because we let him play quarterback football
Starting point is 01:11:04 team and then went to a T and that's where that King and then let him play quarterback for the football team, and then went to A&T, and that's where Dr. King and them found him, right? But when Jesse Jackson and Martin King and Septima Clark and all the women and men who were fighting in that moment among the liberation struggle, they were confronting Jim Crow. The same kind of ridiculous rules.
Starting point is 01:11:18 There's no Constitution except for the judiciary's ability to interpret it. Just go look at Marbury v. Madison. Fast forward almost 60 years, and you've got another former North Carolina A&T student body president who is now confronting the fact, as Recy said, that you trip-wired white supremacy, which means the law is what the sheriff said it is at the moment.
Starting point is 01:11:39 And if you're going to the court, remember, that's the third branch, and the one that's going to be the hardest to dismantle in terms of our open conversation with white supremacy. Now, Reverend Dunwright is in court suing Terry Johnson and Christy Cole, those law enforcement officials, for intimidating voters. A real judge, if there were a real constitution that would be interpreted consistently, would say, of course, they were intimidating voters. But the law is what the sitting judge says it is. Alito told these white nationalists in the week before the election and GOP versus Bookvar, if you can get it close enough to steal, bring it back after November the 2nd, and we'll see if we can throw those ballots out to come in. But it wasn't close enough to steal. This is why voting is important. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Don't take these things, as Reese said, as victories. Oh, the courts have shown that democracy works. Democracy don't work. This is an open war. It wasn't close enough to steal. You know what's going to keep that brother out of jail? People in the street. Trust me on that.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And that's why this show matters, because when I, when Christian Clark, when she sent that tweet out saying that he was one of their clients and what they were doing to him, I immediately sent Christian a text. I said, have shoot me his information.
Starting point is 01:13:00 She did. And I said, we will have you on the show tomorrow. So I certainly thank Christian for doing that, which is why shows like this matter. And I keep telling folks this. Look, folks, you got to support what we do. The whole bunch of y'all who are watching us right now, more than six thousand of you on YouTube. There are folks are watching us on Facebook and Periscope. You must support what we do, what your support allows us to be here on the ground here in Georgia.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I'm going to be here until Tuesday. We're going to be back every single week through January 5th. We're going to have crews going all across the state. We're going to be live streaming the rally taking place on Saturday. And so it's important to be able to tell our stories because, see here, we ain't got to ask permission to have the Reverend on. We don't have to have permission to talk about what we talk about. I don't have to ask anybody. Could we come down here and broadcast from the John Ossoff rally? I just have to ask my damn self. But that's why it's important that we own what we must own. And again, I know black folks, I know black folks, we get excited when somebody got a new TV show.
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Starting point is 01:14:47 You can do memberships right there online as well. Every dollar you give goes to support this show and what we do. Coming up next, Raheem Devon is in the house talking about his new project and also the kind of activism that he is involved with. That is next right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered, broadcasting live from the great state of Georgia. We'll be back in a moment. When the going got tough in business, David Perdue outsourced American jobs overseas. In a deposition, Perdue testified he spent most of his career outsourcing. You made a career out of outsourcing. How do you defend legal? Well, defend it. I'm proud of it. When the going got tough in the Senate,
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Starting point is 01:16:56 by taking things I've said out of context from over 25 years of being a pastor. But I think Georgians will see her ads for what they are. Don't you? I'm Raphael Warnock, and we approve this message. He knows he won this election. He said, if I lost this election fair and square, I would be conceived. But he said, Lynn, I didn't lose it. I won it. And he said to me, with the conviction of the president of the United States of America, I will never concede.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Never concede. Don't you ever concede, Mr. President. You won this election. America voted for you. Stay in the White House. Donald, listen. Just listen. You know what's coming. You had to know. We were getting ready. Your legacy. For a big celebration. Failure. It's over. And all of a sudden it was just called off.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Your future. You fail. What future? Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will receive the most votes of any presidential ticket ever. Ouch. No legacy. Lawsuits. Lawsuits.
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Starting point is 01:19:10 going to. Do you have anything to say to me, Chris? They won't save you. There's just one thing you could do to help yourself now. One small thing. Just one thing. Get off Twitter. Get off Twitter. Put down your phone. And for the love of God, in the name of all that's holy, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. I'm Chrisette Michelle. Hi, I'm Chaley Rose, and you to Roller Martin Unfiltered. We are here in Georgia. My next guest, he is known for his love songs, but he also is very strong when it comes to activism.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Raheem Devon joins us. The new project, what a time to be in love. What's up, my man? What's going on? How you doing, Roller'm all good all good i'm here in georgia of course we're covering the georgia runoff and it's uh uh always is always interesting being out here on the road before we talk about your next project a lot a lot of people don't realize they know for your love songs, but you have always been strong when it comes to activism. The mixtape that you put out a banging political mixtape and a lot of folks have slept on.
Starting point is 01:20:34 Yeah. Looked like we have some audio issues with Raheem, so let me know when we are straight with that. Let me just do this here. So if y'all let me know when we have that done, I'm going to go ahead and I'll do this Kyle Rittenhouse story. Folks, the judges order 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse to stand trial in the fatal shooting that killed two men and injured another in Kenosha, Wisconsin during a protest there. He faces two felony charges of homicide and a felony
Starting point is 01:21:11 attempted homicide charge. He's also charged with the misdemeanor for possession of a dangerous weapon while under the age of 18. Today during a preliminary hearing, an attorney for Rittenhouse requested pending charges against him be dismissed. However, the Kenosha County prosecutor rejected the request and ruled the state demonstrated. I'm sorry, the Kenosha County commissioner ruled that the state demonstrated probable cause for the felonies that they were committed by the 17-year-old. Rittenhouse is scheduled to be arraigned January 5th in Kenosha County Circuit Court. And don't forget the MyPillow CEO as well as Ricky Schroeder. They were big contributors to Kyle Rittenhouse's legal defense fund. And so that's what happens when you have the protecting, as Greg always says, of white supremacy in America. All right, folks, we got Raheem Devon back.
Starting point is 01:22:06 All right, Raheem, can you hear me? I can hear you. All right, he's breaking up for me. Raheem, go ahead and just talk to me again. I just want to make sure I can hear you clearly. Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me? All right, there we go. All right, then.
Starting point is 01:22:26 What I was saying is a lot of folks slept on that political mixtape you dropped. Yeah, yeah. I mean, even with the new album, What Time to Be in Love is available on all digital platforms. This album is half conscious and half love. You know, celebrating black love, celebrating intimacy, but also speaking to the user. First thing. Okay, folks, we're having some having some big problems here with with Raheem's video.
Starting point is 01:23:03 And so we want to go ahead and get that thing squared away. So let's just go ahead and do this here. Y' know what time it is no travel girls are alive i'm uncomfortable. Well, a white woman in Irvine, California, got into a traffic stop. Let's just say she rolled up on the wrong sister who had all the time in the world for this Karen. And you park like an idiot. You've been reported. Oh, I already reported you too, baby. Let's see. So she's put my life at risk and my child's life at risk. You've been posted all over Temecula Talk. So have you. And I wonder if you're on black woman for your entitlement. I wonder if I was a black woman for your entitlement. Get the fuck out of my way. Get away from my car.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Six feet. Six feet. You better back up. Six feet. You better back up. I got some too. I got some too. I got some too.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Sell my car 911 right now. Get away. Get away from my car. Six feet. Six feet. Six feet. Six feet. You're done. Six feet. Get away from my car! Help! Help!
Starting point is 01:24:26 Help! Six feet! Six feet! Get away from my car! Get away from my car! Oh, she's so going down right now. Get away from my car! Uh, Risha, did she throw a color purple root on her?
Starting point is 01:24:49 I love how Sister Girl tells her inner Karen, help, help, get away from my car. I told y'all about that pepper spray. Didn't I tell y'all? Keep that pepper spray in. Spray them like roses. Six feet, step back. Hello? I told y'all. Sounds like somebody listening out there, but I thought,, bro, just six feet. Step back. Hello?
Starting point is 01:25:06 I told y'all. Sound like somebody listening out there. But I thought, you know, she handled it appropriately. But I hope she got out of Dodge before the police showed up, though. Right. Right. I mean, I did get a kick out of, help! Help! Help!
Starting point is 01:25:22 I mean, normally it's a white woman who's screaming. That's true. That's true. I mean, unfortunately, Recy is right. You know, first of all, Karen was right. She is threatening her life, but she left two words out. Way of life. I am a white woman. So therefore, I should be able to do whatever the hell I want with black people.
Starting point is 01:25:45 So the sister, I agree with Reese. When she starts saying, help, help, you've got to understand, what that white woman is counting on is that she can make a phone call, and white supremacy will form like Voltron. And here come the same police with the same attitude. They treating that brother in North Carolina. They're going to swoop in and go after the sister in the car.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And by the way, I didn't see any kind of mask anywhere near that lady's mouth. So at that point, I'd be like, look, this woman threatening my life and the life of everybody else. But you know, shout out to that sister for saying, at this moment, I don't care. If we must, well, anyway. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:26:18 My mom. I hear you, Greg. I hear you, my homie. I can't believe you got your car to stop. I can't believe you got your car to stop. I hear you. You know what I was about to say. I hear you, Greg. I can't believe you got the car to stop. I can't believe you got to stop. You know what I was about to say. I hear you, Greg. I hear you all the way over here.
Starting point is 01:26:33 But her holding up her phone with that little... Erica, here's... Erica, here's my whole deal. Here's my whole deal, okay? This is me. First of all, look, I get it. Folks got the window down. They talking. If that's me, I'm on the inside of the car. This is me. First of all, look, I get it. Folks got the window down. They talking. If that's me, I'm on the inside of the car. This is me. Right. Like, I'm not even about to sit here and engage your ignorant ass. I'm going to be like.
Starting point is 01:27:06 I'll be sitting here. And then I'm going to hit with this here. Right. I'm going to laugh at him. That's what I would do. That's what I would do, Erica. I appreciate that. I appreciate that, Roland, because I think everybody knows the R&U family, the only kind of engagement I'm engaging in are these.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Come on. That's what people respond to. That's the only type of engagement I got for anybody that rolls up on me. I'm not with the shit. And so her holding up her cell phone, you saw she had the demagogue on her back on it. That told you everything that you needed to know. She's ignorant.
Starting point is 01:27:43 She doesn't hear. She's a damn fool. Either pull off or engage right. But you know, one thing, though, is that you do have to be careful because with that video and that audio, you have to present the alternative story because these white folks, they sit up there,
Starting point is 01:28:00 they're on camera, they're in distress, and they have your license plate, and they show that to the police, and next thing they're rolling up on you, you got shots in you. And so I'm not saying that that won't necessarily happen, even if you do engage with them, but if they on the phone, you need to be just as loud.
Starting point is 01:28:15 That's why it was very smart for her to be like, help, help, I hope she had her mace, I hope she got out of Dodge, but you cannot let these white folks be on the phone, be on camera, and be on with the police, and it's only their voice and their story. You better have your camera out, and you better be loud unless you can get the hell out. If you can get the hell out, go ahead and move on about your business. But you can't let them record you and only get their side of the story out.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Recy, that's so important. Yeah, I mean, look. That's so important. Look, these—Gregg, go ahead. No, no, no important. Yeah, I mean, look. That's so important. Look, these... Greg, go ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead, Ron. Please, brother.
Starting point is 01:28:52 No, I was about to say is that I don't know when these things be going down. They just don't happen to me. I'm just, you know, I'm just saying. I'm just saying uh i mean i mean just go ahead i mean i i they really don't i i probably this this actually this act it wasn't anything like this here you know we've all been mistaken you know in stores but like we worked there and i remembered i was in uh in ar Texas at the Dillard's Outlet Mall. And it was a Sunday after church. I was clean. I mean, this was all pre-COVID when we actually
Starting point is 01:29:32 wore suits and ties and shoes that required polishing. And I'm sitting there in the store, Greg, and I'm looking at some suits. And this white guy actually yells, excuse me, I need a 42. I said, do my ass look like I work here? I said, look at me. Ain't nobody here with a suit this clean. Do you see anybody working here with this pocket square and tie combination? I said, no way in hell I work here. I said, and why your ass at it? Get me a 48.
Starting point is 01:30:18 See, Ron, I mean, this is the thing, though, right, brother? And that's why they text me and ask me, were you out there in that parking lot by yourself? And what Reese said again, at any split second moment, it can all go terribly wrong. And we're laughing in this moment because, you know, as James Baldwin said, I mean, to be black in America
Starting point is 01:30:36 is to be in a constant state of rage. But part of that, underneath that rage is a sense of sorrow. But for the African and the West, underneath that sorrow was a sense of hope and joy. african and the west underneath that sorrow was a sense of hope and joy so we can that's why our comedians often become the ones who become prophetic for us we can laugh about this because we've been there and we also know that at any moment it could go wrong i mean you know this woman catherine brian donald still walks to earth in mississippi
Starting point is 01:31:03 and mattel 14 years old and in there trying to get some candy. Right, right. Or coke. Lying on him. Next thing you know, the boy at the bottom of the Tallahatchie River. And I mean, Philando Castile, you had his mother on this show. He videotaped his own death with the child in the car.
Starting point is 01:31:19 So at a split second, in that moment, you said, get me a 48. He said, I ain't get you no 48 n-word. And at that moment, you might say, I second in that moment you said give me a 48 it's ain't get you no 48 n word and at that moment you might say i'm going to ignore you or you might decide in that moment to channel the spirit of our sister erica and throw them bows and at the end of the day we have to decide in that very moment which is why i said that claude mccain if we must die let us notely die but for the black person in this country, it can go from laughter to life-threatening in a split second. And that's something any white person, ally, open enemy,
Starting point is 01:31:53 will never be able to understand in their soul. That's why people texting me asking, are you all right out there in the dark, brother? Because there's an alchemy afoot in this country. And it can go from laughter to memorial in a split second. Oh, no, look, look, look, no doubt, which is one of the reasons why when, you know, when we had this conversation. First of all, y'all give me a status of Raheem Devon.
Starting point is 01:32:21 We still having problems? Okay, here's, all right,, here's the deal. We're going to reschedule our Hame Devon. Since I got y'all, I'm going to spend the last eight minutes with this because I'm picking up on this here. This is where also this whole defund the police conversation comes from. When we talk about mental illness, what happens? We did a story just the other day. Black woman calls the cops.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Guess what? Her brother ends up dead. And what you're now dealing with, and this is the deal, for white people, the reason they look at the police differently, the police for them are saviors. And even though you got black folks, like last night I was debating Scott, and he was like well black folks uh want the police too no no black folks want to be safe just like white folks want to be safe but black folks don't want to end up dead when we call the cops to protect us right and that's the whole deal This is about this is about this is about shifting resources away from, again, the mass policing and outfitting them with military gear and saying, no, learn to deescalate. who end up dying when they arrive on the scene because our mere blackness, Recy, scares the heck out of them. So they are automatically, oh my goodness, the black people, I'm automatically tense
Starting point is 01:33:53 hand on gun when we simply want to be just like white folks is called to protect and serve. Right. And I think that, you know, I understand the slugfest over how to phrase it and this, that, and the other. I've said repeatedly for months now, I don't care what you want to call it or how you want to rephrase it. I'm interested in the substance and the policy at hand. And I think that's something that President Obama did articulate about having mental health services, for instance, rather than police responding to certain things. I'm going to, of course, like I always do, I'm going to big up my
Starting point is 01:34:28 girl, Madam VP-elect Kamala Harris, because this is something that she's been articulating for literally decades. She literally wrote the book Smart on Crime, which was about redefining public safety and healthy communities without necessarily having an emphasis on over-policing, having an emphasis on mental health, having an emphasis on crime prevention, and really getting to the root cause of what it is that is causing these issues. As she said when she was asked about defunding the police many times throughout the course of the campaign or throughout the course of this year, that people mistake additional policing for safety. If you go to white suburban communities, they don't have the police presence that you have in black or poor or whatever kind of communities. I'm not equating black and poor.
Starting point is 01:35:15 I don't like people do that. But I'm saying in more urban, let me put it that way, communities. And so it's really about changing the mentality as to where the resources should be going they should be going to mental health services mayor london breed and um san francisco is piloting that sort of thing right now with her initiatives so there is work that's being done but i really want us to move beyond these litmus tests and well i unless you're using the words that i want to use i i don't want to hear anything you have to say and really move into the substantive policy things, because I don't actually think there's a lot of disagreement, at least on the Democratic side, about the policy prescriptions in terms of, like you said, mental health, in terms of crime prevention and things of that nature.
Starting point is 01:36:03 But the thing here, Erica, what I was talking about, again, when these incidents happen, when we show these Karens, again, when we even call the cops, we've got to be very leery. I think back to the case of Illinois, where the brother was a bouncer
Starting point is 01:36:19 and he took down a guy involved, had a gun. The cops end up killing the brother and other cops. Hey, he's one of us. All he saw was black man gun. Got to be the person who's who's the who's the criminal. Right, Roland, and I don't even believe it's fear. I just believe that it is really the way we have constantly always been criminalized. So black people are always criminalized. So the best way to take to engage a criminal is to take them down. And that's by
Starting point is 01:36:53 any means necessary. And so until that level of conditioning is taken away, until it is not that black people are animals to be hunted, to be trapped, to be executed in the public square, then I don't even think that defund the police is even the slogan that there's the issue. The issue lies within the community that it has been infecting since 1704. And when you think about the weaponization of police, when you think about communities who are not impacted the way black folks are impacted by police, if folks were really allies, like Dr. Parr talked about, if they were really allies with the community, a slogan wouldn't matter because they would understand that we collectively have lost uncles, mothers, daughters, sisters, brothers over hundreds and hundreds of years. And what
Starting point is 01:37:45 we are simply saying is that this collective of people that stemmed out of capturing black people and putting them back into a place of capture, that what we want is to experience a level of freedom to be able to call those people who are taxpayer funded service in the event that there's an emergency and requires them to show up for duty the way that they do any other non-Black communities. And until that is a real conversation that people who are non-Black are willing and ready to have, to fund the police is not even about the slogan. It's really about the care and the protection of Black Americans in this country. That's right. Greg, final comment on today's show. No, I agree. I mean, I mean, you know, with Ayanna Pressley, with Cori Bush and them, who have
Starting point is 01:38:31 said to the 44th president, bruh, silence on this. You know, I encourage everybody to go see Reverend Alan Bozak's video of his analysis of the pages that Barack Obama had devoted in his new memoir to Jeremiah Wright bashing again. Because what Bozak's video of his analysis of the pages that Barack Obama had devoted in his new memoir to Jeremiah Wright bashing again, because what Bozak does is walk through how it's not helpful. First of all, defund the police isn't a, he's, it's not a slogan, bro. If you, there's a well-developed concept behind it, and it's a lot of policy recommendations much of which finds its way into the biden harris platform some of which as reese just said obama then goes on to explain but that ain't what he was doing when you say something like that you're moving the blame
Starting point is 01:39:18 never forget mike brown was killed when barack obama was president trayvon martin was killed when barack obama was president he went to the press conference and said if son, he'd look like Trayvon and had to back up all because the white nationals like you don't get to say that boy. Henry Louis Gates was arrested on the porch of his house in Massachusetts. And what did Barack Obama do? He invites the cop to a damn beer summit. Bruh, it's time for you to be quiet on this. Please do. Because I haven't lost any respect for him because I had to have some in the beginning. I know you're a politician. But some people mistake you for
Starting point is 01:39:50 a black leader. So when you get up and talk crazy like that, when a white boy busts up into the church in Charleston and slaughters nine people and then you go to the funeral and sing Amazing Grace like you get some credit for it, when are you going to stop giving out that surplus police equipment like they were using on black and brown people in the streets
Starting point is 01:40:08 of Ferguson? That's what sent Cori Bush to the federal legislature. It's time to be quiet until you acknowledge that when people say defund the police, they don't mean get rid of law enforcement. They mean fundamentally transform the relationship of policing to human beings in this country. And when white women and men and old people can be out in the streets in Portland and confront these tanks, when Kyle Rittenhouse slaughters two white men and harms another one in Kenosha, Wisconsin in the wake of a death of a black man,
Starting point is 01:40:35 that's when we confront this. But until then, 44th president of the United States, be quiet, bro. It's time to fall back. Roland, can I say one thing, though? Right then. back. Roland, can I say one thing, though? All right, then. Well, look. Roland, Roland, can I say one thing?
Starting point is 01:40:49 Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead, Reese. I do want to say. Yeah, go ahead. I respect that, but I also would like for Bernie Sanders to do the same thing because Bernie Sanders has come out against defunding police as a phrase multiple times. In fact, in November, he was saying that he was saying he was against that.
Starting point is 01:41:07 So I'm just saying what I would like for us to do is to move to a place to where we can manage to find allyship and common ground in our black politicians. And I'm not defending President Obama's words. I'm not defending the merits either way of how you want to characterize it. I'm talking about the policy.
Starting point is 01:41:28 And it seems to me that we can always seem to find that common ground and that grace for people like Bernie Sanders, who has repeatedly come out against that defund the police. I got smoke for him. All because we because because because I don't ever hear Bernie shut up. I never hear. I'm just saying. You mean somewhere other than here? I'm not. Well, you know, I always got the smoke for Bernie, but I'm just saying in terms of,
Starting point is 01:41:52 there's a lot of people that had a lot of smoke for President Obama that had no smoke. I'm not saying you, Dr. Carr, but I'm saying a lot of people, a lot of blueheads, a lot of politicians, and they were bird boxed in November and July and June when Bernie Sanders was on CNN saying
Starting point is 01:42:11 that he doesn't know very many people who want to defund the police. That's all I'm saying. I just want to put that out there. But let's come together because we agree on the substance. We agree on the policy. And let's just make sure we keep the same energy. Absolutely. All right, folks. We agree on the policy. And let's just make sure we keep the same energy. Absolutely. All right, folks, we will leave it there. Recy, Erica, Greg, we certainly appreciate
Starting point is 01:42:32 it. Thanks a lot, folks. Don't forget, we'll be broadcasting tomorrow right here from Georgia. We're going to be following some folks who are canvassing, going door to door, registering people. The deadline to register in Georgia is Monday, December 7th, this weekend on Saturday. That's going to be a joint Ossoff-Warnock rally. Also, the debates this weekend. Ossoff is going to be debating an empty podium because David Perdue has refused to attend the debate at the Atlanta Press Club. We'll be there. And Raphael Warnock will be debating Senator Kelly Loeffler on Sunday. So, folks, we're going to be here bringing you all sorts of reporting. And let me just go ahead and say it because it's true.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Ain't no other black media outlet doing what we're doing. Let me go ahead and say that I'm talking about on the ground, real reporting, talking to people, bringing you to these events live, because guess what? We can't wait on somebody else to do it. That's why we created this platform. That's why we are here. And we appreciate all of you who have supported us financially to make this possible because your dollars have made it possible for us to be able to come here with our crews, be able to cover these things. And that's why it's important. And so we're going to be here again, talking to various groups, talking to people who are out here going to rural Georgia. We ain't going to be just staying here in Atlanta. Trust me, we're going to be going all across this state between now and January 5th, bringing you the various perspectives
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Starting point is 01:45:02 You know what they say? I love my A5. I love my A5. I love my A5. See, I don't want to hurt nobody's feelings. See, I know these little cute little megas and sigmas and capas and iOtis out there, but I don't want to hurt their feelings. Somebody had to go first, bro. All I got to say, Greg, to all the rest of y'all out there, I'm going to leave y'all
Starting point is 01:45:24 with this one slogan, and I think Greg being the chair of the Department of Afro- America Studies at Howard University will appreciate this. The one chant we always had, we said, we party all night, we stay up late, but most of all, alphas graduate.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Graduate. Everybody can't say that. Can't say that, bro. Everybody can't say that. Alright, folks, I'll see y'. Everybody can't say that. Ha ha! Alright folks, I'll see y'all later. We gotta go. Holla! I always had to be so good, no one could ignore me. Carve my path with data and drive.
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