#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 12.6.19 RMU: House passes voting rights bill; Bloomberg's lies; Roland deconstructs Nikki Haley

Episode Date: December 22, 2019

12.6.19 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: House passes bill that will restore the Voting Rights Act; Activist look to oust Virginia's racist laws; Black census report that looks at gender and politics in 2019;... Busted! Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg caught lying. Is he really sorry for Stop and Frisk? Cheerleader who was punished for taking a knee during a football game gets paid; Working While Black? Another crazy a$$ person won't let a brother do his job #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: 420 Real Estate, LLC To invest in 420 Real Estate’s legal Hemp-CBD Crowdfunding Campaign go to http://marijuanastock.org - Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:27 1 tbs. salami 1 tbs. salami 1 tbs. salami 1 tbs. salami 1 tbs. salami 1 tbs. salami 1 tbs. salami Martin! Hey, folks. Today is Friday, December 6, 2019. I'm broadcasting live from Nashville, Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:07:11 where tomorrow I will be giving the commencement speech of the fall class at Tennessee State University. On today's show, the House passed a bill, folks, that will restore the section of the Voting Rights Act that was gutted by the Supreme Court in the Shelby v. Holden decision. We'll talk to Congresswoman Brenda Lawrence of Michigan about today's important bill. In Virginia, there are a number of racist laws that remain on the books. Activists are trying to get rid of them, and Governor Ralph Northam says he is going
Starting point is 00:07:42 to support that. As a new black census report that looks at gender and politics in 2019 will break it down. Also, former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg lies about never being asked about stop and frisk. Really? Oh, we've got the receipts. Also, the New York Police Department has its first black chief of detectives. Plus, the cheerleader who was punished for taking a knee during a football game just got paid. And of course, folks, I'm going to break down my deconstruction of former union ambassador Nikki Haley, who was also the former governor of South Carolina, who made some absolutely ridiculous comments today about the Confederate flag.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Oh, I'm definitely going to bring the funk. ridiculous comments today about the Confederate flag. Oh, I'm definitely going to bring the funk. And yes, another crazy-ass white person just won't let a black man do his job. We'll show it to you. It's time to bring the funk on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the miss, he's on it.
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Starting point is 00:09:09 Rollin' with Rollin' now. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best, you know he's Rollin' Martin. Martin! Martel Elections do have consequences, and after Republicans did nothing to restore the Voting Rights Act after it was gutted in the Shelby v. Holder decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2013, the Democratic-led House passed a bill today that will restore that provision of the Voting Rights Act after it was gutted in the Shelby v. Holder decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2013. The Democratic-led House passed a bill today that will restore that provision of the Voting Rights Act that would require certain jurisdictions to obtain preclearance from the federal government before implementing any changes to voting practices. The bill passed 228 to 187 and was spearheaded by Congresswoman Terri Sewell of Alabama.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Here's what took place in the House today. Today is incredibly personal and special to me and my district. Alabama's 7th congressional district that includes the cities of Birmingham, Montgomery, and my hometown of Selma, Alabama. You see, voting is very personal for me, not only because I represent America's civil rights district, but because it was on the streets of my hometown that foot soldiers like our incredible colleague
Starting point is 00:10:34 John Lewis shed their blood on the Edmund Pettus Bridge so that all Americans, regardless of race, could vote. Today the House will finally pass H.R. 4, the Voting Rights Advancement Act, to protect their legacy and restore the full protections of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. I've introduced this bill for the past three Congresses, and I know you have on the Senate side too, Senator Leahy. But it really has been a group effort.
Starting point is 00:11:04 For the past six years, I've been honored to have the support and input from so many wonderful stakeholders. The Leadership Council, the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, the Lawyers Committee, AFL-CIO, Brennan Center for Justice, MALDOF, and NALEO, just to name a few. Without this and these wonderful supporters, this bill would not be here today. The Supreme Court's Shelby versus Holder decision gave states with a proven history of voter discrimination free rein to re-engage in suppressive voting processes. My state of Alabama, home to Shelby County, has implemented a more restrictive voter ID
Starting point is 00:11:51 law and has the audacity to close nearly a dozen polling stations as well as DMVs since that decision. Alabama isn't alone. More than two dozen states have enacted strict voter ID laws since 2013. State legislatures have worked to gerrymand districts, purge voter rolls, and reduce early voting. Today, as we pass H.R. 4, we protect the legacy of the foot soldiers of the voting rights movement, like our wonderful Congressman John Lewis, ordinary patriotic Americans who achieved extraordinary social change in the name of justice. To invoke the words of 103-year-old Amelia Boynton Robinson, who was also bludgeoned on that bridge in 1965, and who was my special guest in 2015 for the State of the Union as we celebrated the 50th anniversary
Starting point is 00:12:46 of the Selma to Montgomery March. She was often approached by so many people at 103, and they would always say the same thing, we stand on your shoulders, we stand on your shoulders. And she and her inimitable words would often say, get off my shoulders. Do your own work is what she would say so on this wonderful day as we pass hr4 I want to invoke her words and say miss Amelia we're doing our own work we're passing hr4 and we're making sure that voter equality is alive and well in America today this ongoing struggle to redeem the soul of America. We're not there yet and there are forces in America today trying to take us back to another
Starting point is 00:13:34 time and another place. But with the passage of this bill we're, we're not going back, we're going forward. The only thing I did or tried to do with a few other people is to get the right to vote. We gave a little blood on that bridge to help redeem the soul of America. So our struggle is an ongoing struggle. We can never give up. We can never lose hope. We're going to pass it here. Today, we're going to do it, Madam Speaker. We're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And we're going to send it, Madam Speaker. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. And we're going to send it to the Senate. We must do it. The vote is the most powerful nonviolent instrument or tool we have in a democratic society. And people should be able to use it, all of our citizens. So thank you very much. Joining us now is Maryland, excuse me, is Michigan Congresswoman Brenda Lawrence. of our citizens. So thank you very much. Joining us now is Maryland, excuse me, is Michigan Congresswoman Brenda Lawrence. Congresswoman, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:14:51 I'm doing great. How are you? Doing great. First and foremost, let's get right to it. Republicans had an opportunity to do something about this. It was Congressman Simpson Brenner of Wisconsin who tried to push forward a bill, virtually got no co-sponsors from the Republican side. The Republicans clearly have used this Supreme Court decision to lead voter suppression, and that's why they did nothing over these years
Starting point is 00:15:20 in order to fix this decision by the Supreme Court. You know, so often when people, and it was amazing to watch on the floor, a white man of privilege saying, we don't have a problem. We have the Voting Rights Act. There was no person found that wanted to vote that couldn't vote. But let's talk about, in the example of Terry Sewell's district. They closed down the registration centers, which is usually the DMZs, DMTs. And they closed them down in all the black neighborhoods. So if you become a voting aide and wanted to register to vote, you would have to take a bus or transportation,
Starting point is 00:16:06 drive out to another community to register to vote. There were people who changed the, I was campaigning last year in South Carolina, and it was a historically black university who has had a voting precinct on that campus for over 50 years, and they closed it down. These are things that, you know, they say, oh, they can go to the other precinct. But they're systematic, and they were happening all over the country. And today, we're saying we will not tolerate that. And if you do it, there will be consequences because we will have the right to do an evaluation and to come in and to examine what you've done and the impact it has on the community. Another thing that so many people, when we're fighting and saying we want voting rights, they go like, oh, please, you can vote if you want to. The number one thing to destroy or to enslave a people is to take away their right to vote.
Starting point is 00:17:18 It does not go unnoticed that history has shown that we literally had our forefathers die for us to have the right to vote. And they fought us and persecuted us and did everything because the fear is that if people in this democracy go to the polls and vote, it literally will create an economy that all people will be able to be treated equally and not this just privileged few. Now, only one Republican had the guts to stand with Democrats. That is Congressman Brian Fitz of Pennsylvania. That shows you how the Republican Party has changed, because previously, when the Voting Rights Act was reauthorized in Congress,
Starting point is 00:18:07 typically it passed with flying colors by Democrats and Republicans. Well, you know, I'm in an environment now in Congress, and, Roland, when this president took office, and even before, his number one agenda is to divide, separate, and create this us-and-them environment. He has solidified now the Republican Party to say that anything that the Democrats want to do, because that's what Ms. McConnell does, any bill that's sent to the Senate, even the bipartisan bill, they are not being, there are over 400 bills sitting in his graveyard. And Trump is fine with that. And McConnell said, I will do whatever Trump wants me to do. Because they do not want to bring anything to the death of this president that he would have to sign that shows
Starting point is 00:19:06 that he has any compassion or any sense of wanting to make this country a country that works for everyone. And so when you look at this partisan divide, it's being nurtured and it's being just driven and rewarded by the president of the United States of America. Again, that's Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick. I gave his Twitter handle is at Rep Brian Fitz. Now, here's the real issue. The question now is, will Senator Mitch McConnell allow this to come to the floor in the Senate? I doubt it very seriously.
Starting point is 00:19:43 He's blocked more than 300 bills passed by House Democrats. What message does that send? What do you say the message sends to black voters, to young voters, to white voters, all voters who care about voting rights at the Republican Party likely is not going to allow this bill to move forward? Well, this just goes right in the bin with all the other bills and violence against women. We have passed gun violence control laws and sent it to the House. These are things Americans care about. And when it comes to being, as Terry Sewell said, Congresswoman Sewell said, the sensitivity that the black community has for the right to vote, I'm sorry, you can think it's over the top. I know for a fact
Starting point is 00:20:35 that the right to vote was something that was denied my people and it didn't come without sacrifice, death, and violence and resistance. And so I'm going to fight to keep that. And I'm watching everything that you do. And this is a slippery slope that we've stopped. So just like those examples I gave you, this was happening all over the country. And so if I can get away with this, the next time I'll do something even more egregious, because at the end of the day, the number of people who vote, I can control who's voting and who's not.
Starting point is 00:21:24 All right, Congresswoman Brenda Lawrence of Michigan, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. I want to wish you a happy holidays if I don't talk to you again. So God bless you and just keep bringing it. I appreciate your voice. I need your voice. Will do. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Appreciate it. Let's bring in our panel. Michael Brown, former vice chair, DNC Finance Committee. Dr. Neon B. Carter, Department of Political Science, Howard University. Julian Boykin, founder, chairman, Young Republicans of Southern Maryland. Junior Julian, I want to go to you. Dude, what the hell? What is wrong with your party? I mean, the reality is in the past, whenever the Voting Rights Act came up, a reauthorization, it was signed into law by a Republican
Starting point is 00:22:06 president. Republicans voted for it, but after that Supreme Court decision, Republicans have been hostile to the Voting Rights Act, and one Republican had the guts today to stand with Democrats. Can't defend that. I'm not a fan of voter suppression.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I think change needs to come. So for me, I mean, I'm all about helping people become registered voters and also making sure I get people, many people as possible to the polls, whether it's, you know, transporting them to the polls. But at the end of the day, you know, I'm not going to make excuses for my party. You know, I don't agree with the old guard and some of the things that they've done, some of the decisions that they made before me. But as for going forward, I plan on trying to make changes. One change is the voter suppression. At some point, you have to allow people to express themselves
Starting point is 00:22:56 by becoming registered voters and voting. When you implement voter suppression, that means that you're intimidated by people and their right to vote. So, you think people are not going to vote the way you want them to. At the end of the day, if you put a message out there and people are either going to agree with your message or they're not going to agree, but I don't believe in voter suppression. When you implement that, that means you're trying to control people. And that's one way to control people is by suppressing their vote.
Starting point is 00:23:23 So I encourage people, if you don't think voting is important, this is a wake-up call that, hey, if you're not impressed with where your schools are looking, where the roads are looking, not enough jobs in your area, I highly encourage you, get out and vote. It doesn't matter about the party, but make sure you understand the importance of voting. By not voting, you're telling people you don't care. If you're telling someone you don't care, then, you know, you're not trying to become an asset and trying to fix the problem. You're not trying to find a solution for the problem at all. Dr. Neon-Bicard, I want to go to you. Bottom line here, the Republican Party
Starting point is 00:23:59 has led voter suppression. It is a part of their strategy. This is what their goal is. It is undeniable. And the fact that only one had the guts to vote for the bill today shows you exactly where this party, this national party, Donald Trump, McConnell, McCarthy in the House, Roland McDaniel, the GOP chairwoman,
Starting point is 00:24:22 state legislatures all across the country, the Republican Party does not want to legislatures all across the country, the Republican Party does not want to support voting rights in this country. Well, absolutely. I mean, there's nothing that barred them in all these years to rewrite that section of the Voting Rights Act, right? All that the Supreme Court said in Shelby County v. Holder was that the formula that was used in 1965 was too old.
Starting point is 00:24:44 They could have done something in all these years. The fact that they didn't do anything other than pursue voter suppression in various state legislations around the country tells you they had no intention, right? Because if you don't rewrite the Section 4 formula, then Section 5 is null and void. And so they don't want preclearance. They actually don't want oversight of the election laws in those states, states that had a history, a long history, right, of harming people who were considered minorities, not just racial minorities, but language minorities and others. So this matters not just for black people. This matters for indigenous populations, Native Americans who've
Starting point is 00:25:22 been having lots of difficulty registering and trying to exercise their right to vote, Latinos, citizens, Asians, and others. So this is very purposeful. The Republicans saw the writing on the wall over 20 years ago. They knew that they were going to be outvoted demographically, and they don't want to lose. So the way they do it is to fix the system. If you can control the institution, then you can extend your longevity. And that's exactly what they've done. And the fact that they've not tried to do anything more proactive in all these years to redraw or rewrite, I'm sorry, the voting rights formula in Section 4 tells you everything you need to know about what game they're playing, right? They're going to take away people's constitutional rights so they can extend their ability to win elections because the country is moving away from
Starting point is 00:26:05 them demographically and in terms of what they feel ideologically. And they know this. And all that they can do now is rig the system so they can hang on to an ideology that really nobody wants. And if they put themselves up in head-to-head competition, they're going to lose. Michael Brown, this is simple. This is a party with no guts whatsoever. They're showing their true colors. And I keep saying to black folks, understand what's going on. Donald Trump has now appointed one out of one out of every five federal judges. They are pushing folks through who are hostile to voting rights, who are hostile to civil rights. And the bottom line of this here,
Starting point is 00:26:51 a vote for Donald Trump and the Republican Party in 2020 is a vote against voting rights. And co-signing with what the professor said, suppression is clearly one issue. But this also should be permanent. And until it becomes permanent, we're going to continue to have these skirmishes every decade, decade and a half, every two decades or so. So it has to become permanent. And once it does, that's where the leadership comes. And we've had two opportunities. We had in the first term of President Clinton when you had a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House. Same with the first term of Obama.
Starting point is 00:27:21 You had a Democratic Senate, Democratic House. And everyone always says, oh, well, we'll get to that issue, just like DC statehood. Oh, we'll get to that issue. It's not a priority, but it's important to us. And now, when things shift, and now you have a president like 45 and a party that's following him no matter what he says relative to whether it's suppression,
Starting point is 00:27:42 not giving folks a chance to vote, whether it's making sure these federal judges a chance to vote, whether it's making sure these federal judges are here, even though the demographics are changing, as you mentioned, you have to make it permanent. Simple as that. Well, bottom line is here. We'll see what happens on the Senate. I have absolutely no doubt that Mitch McConnell will not take this bill up. He does not care. That's how he has operated. And so expect the Republicans in the Senate to completely allow this bill to die. That's all you need to know exactly where the Republicans stand today when it comes to voting rights. All right, folks,
Starting point is 00:28:15 let's talk about a former Republican who became a Democrat who now wants to run for president on the Democratic side. That's former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg. In an interview that aired this morning on CBS, Michael Bloomberg had the audacity, the unmitigated gall to say this about stop and frisk. Stop and frisk. You recently apologized for that. Some people are suspicious of the timing of your apology. Well, the mark of an intelligent, competent person is when they make a mistake, they have the guts to stand up and say, I made a mistake. I'm sorry. We don't question your belief that you made a mistake. I think the question is the timing that you realize you made the mistake. Well, nobody asked me about it
Starting point is 00:29:00 until I started running for president. So come on. Are you saying to people that you realize you had made a mistake before, but you just didn't mention it until now? I think we were overzealous at the time to do it. Our intent was to do anything we could to stop the carnage, the murder rate. And what was surprising is when we stopped doing it a little bit, we thought crime would go up. It didn't. It went down. You know, it should have, would have and could have. I can't help that. But in looking back, made a mistake. I'm sorry. I apologize. Let's go fight the NRA and find other ways to stop the murders and incarceration. Those are things that I'm committed to do. And the more I do that, the better off everybody is. Sorry, Mike Bloomberg, you are a lying sack of crap. Soled O'Brien actually addressed this issue, folks. And this is what she sent out in a tweet.
Starting point is 00:30:02 She tweeted that she asked Bloomberg to take part in a documentary about stop and frisk six years ago. He declined. She also tweeted that in 2014, she asked him directly if he was sorry about stop and frisk. And he said that more black and brown people should have been stopped. Abby Phillips, who is with CNN, tweeted the following on this very issue. I'm bringing it up in a second, but a number of people actually did ask him. There is video, Dr. Carter, of Michael Bloomberg defending stop and frisk. To sit there and and lie to say no one asked is outrageous. Activists asked, journalists asked, many folks asked.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Mike Bloomberg goes, oh, come on. No, Mike Bloomberg is trying to replace a liar in the White House. He is lying about stopping Frisk. And somehow he wants us to just ignore the constant defense that he gave to stop and frisk. And he thinks that going to a black church led by Pastor A.R. Bernard in New York and apologizing is somehow going to cause us to forget how he simply defended it. He only apologized because he is trying to run for president. Simple as that. Absolutely. He's doubled down on stopping for several times. He tried to to run for president. Simple as that. Absolutely. He's doubled down on stop and frisk several times. He tried to expand stop and frisk.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Remember, they also wanted to collect people's biological information at one point in time. So this man was dedicated to this program, and not to mention the carnage and the havoc that it wreaked on black and brown communities who've been caught up for nothing, right? I mean, we've seen what happened with folks who couldn't afford cash bail
Starting point is 00:31:43 and how long they were kept in jail and other kinds of things. So stop and frisk wasn't just an inconvenience. It was dangerous. It was wrong and it was unethical. He knew it. And now he's saying, OK, well, I punched you in the face, but I said sorry now, so let's just get over it. There's been no attempt to repair. there are communities in New York that are still traumatized. And for him to actually sit there and say that nobody asked me about it when we absolutely know that there were activists and others in New York
Starting point is 00:32:10 who were holding his feet to the fire consistently throughout this period talking about why stop and frisk was an infringement on folks' civil rights. And for him to sit there and say, oh, well, nobody really asked me about it. He's a liar. He's not worth our time. And, I mean, really what he's trying to do at this point is buy an election, right? This man has $52 billion personal dollars. Yes, sir. Michael Brown, Michael Bloomberg, I'm sorry, to lie that blatantly disqualifies himself for running.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Stopping Frisk is one of the biggest issues, biggest blights on his record. It was shameful. It was despicable. It simply did not. Then after the judge ruled it unconstitutional, ruled against it, Bloomberg went out and said that crime was going to go back up and assail those who were fighting to stop it. And we know by the facts, crime did not go up. Michael Bloomberg flat out lied to Gayle King. And if a person's going to lie like that about this issue, they will lie about something else. Well, I don't think anybody's happier than Mayor Pete because now he's not in the bottom for black and brown support. And it was flat out just a flat out racist policy.
Starting point is 00:33:23 We were just talking during the break about where it started. And, you know, I understand that it was the brainchild of Giuliani, but Bloomberg is the one that put it on Front Street. And now de Blasio is putting out numbers showing that crime has actually gone down, that you don't need stop and frisk. So it's just a wrong policy. It's a racist policy. And it's too bad that his
Starting point is 00:33:45 apology rang hollow. Look, Julian, you can't get around it. He lied. Simple as that. And if he had any guts, he would come out and say, you know what? I was mistaken. What I told Gayle King. But here's the other deal. I don't even give a damn about that.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I don't accept his apology because he is only apologizing now, only because he's running for president. He did not apologize. He was defending Stopping Frisk as late as January of this year, but all of a sudden, after he announces he's running for president,
Starting point is 00:34:22 oh, I'm sorry. I've now found the light. Yeah, I think honesty is the best policy when you're running for office. And just about anything you support or you have supported in your past, especially if it's controversial like stop and frisk, it's going to come up.
Starting point is 00:34:39 If, you know, I felt like he should have just came out and said, hey, it was something I should have supported. It should have never happened. But to try to just sweep it under the rug like, hey, I'm sorry, let's move on. Then you come with the angle of let's deflect. Let's bring up the NRA. I want to go after the NRA. At some point when it comes time for a debate, this issue is going to come up again, and he's going to have to answer to it.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And if he has the same response during a debate like he did this time with Ms. Gayle King, it's not going to sit well with African-Americans. You know, I don't think he's going to get far with his debate. But at some point, you're going to have to, you know, address it and just be honest with the people. Yep, stop lying. All right, folks, let's talk about this story here. with this debate, but at some point, you're gonna have to address it and just be honest with the people. Yep, stop lying. All right, folks, let's talk about this story here. A former cheerleader for Kennesaw State University who took a knee during the national anthem during a football game has been paid $145,000
Starting point is 00:35:36 in an out-of-court settlement. Tamia Dean sued KSU's then-president Sam Owens alongside Scott Whitlock and Matt Griffin, who worked for the athletic department at the time. Her public protest with four other cheerleaders took place in 2017. According to Dean's lawsuit, school officials worked to keep her and other cheerleaders off the field during the national anthem for two games after the initial incident. Also named in her lawsuit were Cobb Sheriff Neil Warren and former state rep Earl Earhart, who she says pressured Owens to take action against the cheerleaders. She believes the actions were racially motivated. She dropped her lawsuit after settling with the Georgia Department of Administrative Services. Michael,
Starting point is 00:36:13 real simple. This is how this is. This is what is so stupid. Those idiots in Georgia cost themselves cost one hundred and forty five thousand dollars of taxpayer money because they did not like the fact that these Chileans were actually taking advantage of the First Amendment. It's unfortunate. And this is going to, hopefully this will be the deterrent to folks to try to keep people from exercising their First Amendment right. Then make sure that, oh, I don't want to write a check. So if people want to take a knee, let them take a knee, let them exercise their First Amendment right, which it even shouldn't be about, oh, I have to write a check.
Starting point is 00:36:46 It should be just because it's your right to do it. And keep in mind, the message also has to go out they are not protesting the flag, they're not going against our troops, they're talking about criminal justice. That's all they're protesting,
Starting point is 00:37:01 and that message has to also be illuminated. I think that message needs to need to be broadcasted more because when you see the message of, hey, look at these black people taking a knee as being disrespectful to the flag. I see that more than the actual truth being spoken. So when Colin Kaepernick. But Julian, that was done on purpose. Julian, Julian, that was done on purpose. I understand that, but what I'm saying is it needs to be broadcasted more. But it was done... It needs to be broadcasted more, though.
Starting point is 00:37:31 But Julian, it can't... But here's the deal, though. The narrative was driven by Fox News. The narrative was driven by conservative radio. True. The narrative was driven by individuals like that, and so there were people like me and others who did broadcast it more,
Starting point is 00:37:46 but it was by design to purposely lie about the purpose of Colin Kaepernick's protest because that's the real deal. They don't like it when you dare invoke the flag. They want to sit here and play the game, but the lie was by design. True. I agree. But I will say this. I mean, this is a college student, right? A set of college
Starting point is 00:38:10 students. These are the kinds of things that I actually actively work every day to get my college students to do, right? Which is to know their rights and exercise their rights. These young women, these young men on these college campuses are coming into their own as citizens, and what is the message that universities are sending them about their citizenship, right?
Starting point is 00:38:27 Which is the rights that they are granted are actually endangered on a place where they should be the most protected, which is a college campus. So I think this is the kind of stuff that universities should definitely be held to task for, because as an institution, we are to encourage these young people
Starting point is 00:38:42 and help them become educated as citizens, right? about what it is in their right to do, but also what their responsibility is as citizens, right? So, you know, kudos to these young women. And I hope Kennesaw State and others do take note because as Michael said, this can get to be a very expensive habit if you continue to do this and infringe on students' constitutional rights. All right, folks, going to a break right now. We come back. We'll talk with Alicia Garza about the Black Census Project that's coming up next. Later in the show, I'm also going to deconstruct these ridiculous comments by Nikki Haley, former governor of South Carolina and Trump's U.N. ambassador, where she talked about the Confederate flag and how Dylann Roof hijacked it. This was not about race. It was people believed it was about heritage and hard work and faith.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Y'all know I'm going to bring the funk against Nikki Haley. Oh, y'all want to tune in for that. We'll be back in Roland Martin Unfiltered in just a moment. You want to check out Roland Martin Unfiltered? YouTube.com forward slash Roland S. Martin. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. We'll be back in Roller Martin Unfiltered in just a moment. dot com forward slash Roland S. Martin. And don't forget to turn on your notifications. So when we go live, you'll know it. All right, the folks at MarijuanaStock.org have already reached more than half of their funding goal for the hemp CBD investment. That's right. If you want to take advantage of this great opportunity, you need to do it now because it won't last much longer. If you don't know, I'm talking about the hemp plant, the good cousin to
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Starting point is 00:41:43 So what does this survey show well one of the reasons that we took the survey in this way is because we really were concerned with the problem of what it's going to take to make black communities powerful in politics and we took the data from the black census and we looked at it from a number of different lenses and this lens is looking at the data through the lens of gender and how it is that people's experiences as transgender gender non-conforming or cisgender people impact their political perspectives and activities but also impact the vision that they have for the future and what we found was a couple of things that I think are very interesting. We talk a lot about the role that Black women are playing in politics, and we
Starting point is 00:42:31 all know that it's incredible. But what we don't talk so much about is the role that Black cisgender men and Black transgender people are also playing in politics. What we found was that of course there are very high levels of participation amongst black women in voting and other kinds of electoral activity, but there's also almost equal, a little bit less than equal participation by black cisgender men, and there is a political engagement that is happening with black transgender people, but they're not actually participating electorally in the same way. Why this matters is because it gives us some insight into what it would mean, right? What would be the implications if black transgender people, for example, who are already incredibly active, whether it means that they're
Starting point is 00:43:25 joining organizations, they're participating in protests around having their rights being rolled back or having additional restrictions being placed on their dignity and human rights, what would it mean if we actually invested in the electoral capacities of Black transgender communities, who you know actually are incredibly under siege right now. Would that change election patterns, right, in places around the country where, of course, we are concerned about the impact of black turnout, right, on the outcomes of elections? We also found that the issues that folks care about are actually relatively similar.
Starting point is 00:44:07 However, one of the things that is challenging and concerning is that when we look at each of these groups, black cisgender women, black cisgender men, black transgender people, and black gender nonconforming or nonbinary people, what we found is that folk are much less likely to identify problems that are impacting other communities as their own problems. So let me just give an example. In our census, what we found was that black transgender people are more likely, right, to say that violence against themselves, violence by the police, right, is an incredible issue. But when we talk to Black cisgender people about whether they think that violence against Black transgender people is a major problem that's impacting Black communities, Black cisgender people are less likely to say that violence against trans people is an issue that's impacting black communities. Well, this matters, of course, because we know that black communities as a whole are
Starting point is 00:45:11 incredibly impacted by violence, whether that be violence at the hands of the police or other types of violence that happens in the home, sexual violence as well. And so what are the implications of not seeing violence against other black people as a major issue that is impacting you? The implications, of course, is that we're less powerful, right? If we were able to come together and make our concerns each other's, that would give us more of a foundation to actually have an impact. We'd be building broader and more stronger coalitions. And we would also be building more nuanced agendas that essentially people would not be able to wiggle out of because we'd be united in different fashions across different relationships. So for us, one of
Starting point is 00:45:59 the things that we're arguing in the Black Census Project and in this report, Beyond Kings and Queens, is that there is material interest for various segments of the Black community to come together to be able to win on the issues that we care about. And so what impact do you believe this is going to have when it comes to policies being laid out by these various Democratic candidates? Because first of all, we know Republicans ain't talking to black people. Actually, Republicans are talking to black people. And this is a concern that we have here is that the space that we leave open by not building these kinds of alliances,
Starting point is 00:46:38 by not building these kinds of networks that can help us win, our opposition is actually moving into that space and taking advantage of what we're leaving on the table. So when we see things like Blacks for Trump, when we hear things, right, about, you know, how folks should leave the Democratic Party and, you know, either vote for Trump or not vote at all, these are messages that are getting into spaces that we're leaving wide open. And so this report is really looking specifically at that. I can say from our perspective, from the Black Futures Lab, what we are working on is making sure that nobody in Black communities
Starting point is 00:47:18 gets left behind. And our hypothesis is that the more that we're able to come together, the more we're able to leverage our power. We're getting ready to launch a program that's called Black to the Ballot, where we are expanding the electorate, the black electorate, in five states across the country, California, Louisiana, Georgia, Florida, and Alabama. And we are committed to not only registering 10,000 new black voters in those five states, but we're also looking very carefully at the constituencies of black people that we know are not yet politically engaged, but have everything to gain from being politically engaged. And then coupling that, of course, with a black agenda that is helping folks to understand that it's not just about casting your vote. It's about casting your vote in pursuit, right, of an agenda that is going to impact our lives in positive ways.
Starting point is 00:48:14 So I think the impact that this can and should have on the 2020 election is that candidates that want to, you know, make sure that communities are turning out and voting, right, that's the only way that we're going to be able to defeat Donald Trump and the tide of Trumpism that has swept this country, if turnout is the major concern for the 2020 election, then every single candidate should be paying attention to how to make sure to get black people to turn out from every corner of our community. And that's what our report is arguing. All right, Alicia Garza, we certainly appreciate it. Thanks a bunch.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Where can people look at the Black Census Project? Thanks, Roland. All right, folks, thanks a bunch. Got to go to a break right now. We come back. Wait till I play for y'all what Nikki Haley actually said in an interview with Glenn Beck about the Confederate flag and Dylann Roof. Yeah, I'm about to straight up just go ahead and go to break.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I'll be back on Roller Martin Unfiltered. and roll them out on the field too. Changing their mind is very difficult on how way people act and how they grow up. But if you get somebody that makes it inspiring and you can motivate them and you can educate them, that's where you change the dynamics for the future of our children. I'm George Morales. I'm the constable of Precinct 4 here in Travis County. I'm raised in southeast Austin, in a community called Dove Springs.
Starting point is 00:49:55 In the late 80s, early 90s, it was really hard in our community in Dove Springs. We had a lot of gangs and drugs that were being sold in our communities. Dove Springs. We had a lot of gangs and drugs that were being sold in our communities. I came up in law enforcement seeing a lot of constables put themselves in the forefront. It's a community-based office. You want to be out there amongst the community and show them the better side of law enforcement. Show them that hard work does pay off. That's constable work to me. As the president of the Dulce Springs Advisory Board, our goal is helping the Rec Center grow, implement programs. We do events from Easter, which we have about 2,000 kids. The back to school bash, we did about 3,500 backpacks. I think a lot of kids may see him as a
Starting point is 00:50:38 hero because he gives back to the kids. It's like he's always talking to kids. He's always around youth. He knows that it's the next generation that's going to take over. I don't do this by myself. I was taught by my union that if we work together, things happen. If we speak up, things happen. Union is strength in numbers.
Starting point is 00:51:00 And I bring those numbers from the Dustbins community, from the Precinct 4 community. And that's the union pride that I have. All right, folks. So Nikki Haley, the former governor of South Carolina and Trump's U.N. ambassador, sat down for an interview with Glenn Beck on his network, The Blaze. And what came up in that interview was the issue of the Confederate flag coming down in South Carolina. Hmm. Here's what she actually said. South Carolina fell to her knees when this happened.
Starting point is 00:51:36 This is one of the oldest African-American churches. These 12 people were amazing people. They loved their church. They loved their family. They loved their community. And here is this guy that comes out with his manifesto holding the Confederate flag and had just hijacked everything that people thought of. people in South Carolina. There's always the small minority that's always going to be there. But people saw it as service and sacrifice and heritage. But once he did that, there was no way to overcome it. And the national media came in in droves. They wanted to define what happened. They wanted to make this about racism. They wanted to make it about gun control. They wanted to make it about death penalty. And I really pushed off the national media and said, there will be a time and place where we talk about this, but it is not now. We're going to get through the funerals. We're going to respect them. And then we will have that conversation. And we had a really
Starting point is 00:52:38 tough few weeks of debate, but we didn't have riots. had vigils we didn't have protests we had hugs and the people of south carolina stepped up and showed the world what it looks like to to show grace and strength in the eyes of tragedy so all of these conservatives are now defending nikki h, saying that media matters got this thing wrong, that she wasn't praising the flag herself and that this is what happens. I mean, so in fact, Nikki Haley, she tweeted three hours ago. 2015 was a painful time for our state. The pain was and is still real.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Below was my call for the removal of the Confederate flag. And I stand by it. I continue to be proud of the people of South Carolina and how we turned the hate of a killer into the love for each other. It was a story that she retweeted from the New York Times. Folks, do y'all have a portion of Nikki Haley's speech in 2015 where she talked about it? If so, can y'all go ahead and play it? For many people in our state,
Starting point is 00:53:45 the flag stands for traditions that are noble, traditions of history, of heritage, and of ancestry. The hate-filled murderer who massacred our brothers and sisters in Charleston has a sick and twisted view of the flag. In no way does he reflect the people in our state who respect and in many ways revere it. Those South Carolinians view the flag as a symbol of respect, integrity, and duty.
Starting point is 00:54:13 They also see it as a memorial, a way to honor ancestors who came to the service of their state during time of conflict. That is not hate, nor is it racism. So Nikki Haley stood there in 2015 and said that is not hate, that is racism. Really? Why did South Carolina secede from the union? No, seriously. Nikki, see this is the real issue that we're dealing here. And that's why, folks, I'm going to do this deconstruction because I need you to understand what is going on here.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Nikki Haley is a willing participant in the redefining of the Confederate flag and what it means. You heard her say there, oh, many people. She didn't say some. In fact, let me break this down. In the Glenn Beck interview, she talked about how a small portion of people in South Carolina are racist. In 2015, she said many people revere the flag out of respect because it was about honor. Did y'all hear that? Many revere the flag, respect and honor. Oh, but a small portion is defined by race. Here's the problem with that. That doesn't actually line up with history. South Carolina seceded from the union because of slavery. All you have to do, she talked about, see, this is what happens when folk like Nikki Haley don't like the fact that we can break down what she says. All of her people are running to her aid.
Starting point is 00:56:07 People should be going after all these journalists who misinterpreted what she said. No, not one time did Nikki Haley say, there are people in my state who revere the flag because they see it as honor and respect, but they are wrong. Not one time did she say that. In fact, she has defended that. Folks, South Carolina, in their manifesto, in the manifesto that they wrote, made it perfectly clear that they were seceding from the state, from the union, because of slavery. Now, here's what Nikki Haley also never said
Starting point is 00:56:49 and what her supporters will not say is this. General Lee, the person who they revere in these statues and monuments, told his troops to furl the rebel flag and store it in your attics. What Nikki Haley will not say is that for more than two generations after the Civil War, for the most part, the Confederate flag was not seen in America. Now, there are images of a black man being lynched, made a force to kiss a Confederate flag before he was lynched in 1920. Some of the historians on Twitter
Starting point is 00:57:37 have been discussing that today. But it wasn't until 1948 when the Confederate flag came out as a national symbol. You might ask, well, Roland, what happened in 1948? In 1948, there was a meeting in Mississippi where the Southern Manifesto was created. Oh, Nikki Haley referenced a Southern, a manifesto written by Dylan Roof that was racist. Yet it was a Southern manifesto written in 1948 because the National Democratic Party had dared to include civil rights in their plank.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Now, let me unpack this. Republicans, yes, it is factually correct. The Republican Party historically from Lincoln up until that period were in support of civil rights. But there was a Republican, excuse me, President Herbert Hoover, who aligned with called the Lily White Movement, who partnered with Southern Dixiecrats and the KKK to oppose black people.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Those are historical facts. If you want to go research it, knock yourself out, but I got receipts. So in 1948, the Southern Manifesto is written. Who was the leader of that 1948 convention in Mississippi where the Southern Manifesto was written? South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond, who was the man who set the record for filibustering a bill when he filibustered for more than 24 hours of the 1957 Civil Rights Act. South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Now, Nikki Haley talked about how people saw it in sort of reverence. Do you know that South Carolina raised that flag over its state capital in 1961 in celebration of the 100th anniversary of the Civil War? Oh, but that's not what they called it. Do you know what they called it? They didn't call it the 100th anniversary of the Civil War. In fact, they purposely, they purposely called it, because first of all, President Eisenhower commissioned a national Civil War centennial. Okay, I'm reading a quote and this is from
Starting point is 01:00:27 a gentleman named Daniel Hollis of South Carolina. Daniel Hollis was appointed to the state commission that was created. Y'all gonna love this one for the observers of the 100th anniversary of the war between the states, that's what they called it. Daniel Hollis, Ph.D. in American history from Columbia University, taught for 36 years at the University of South Carolina in their history department. His specialty, Southern history and the Civil War. Daniel Hollis said this in this piece that was written several years ago. I'm the only one on the commission left alive. I tried to get them to call it the Civil War Centennial, but they insisted on calling it the Confederate War Centennial. Quote, I was the only Civil War historian.
Starting point is 01:01:24 There were three UDC girls on it, and John May was a chairman. May was a state representative from Aiken. He called himself Mr. Confederacy and wore a Confederate uniform to our meetings. I called May an inveterate Confederate. They would argue that the war wasn't fought over slavery but states' rights. That's ridiculous. Without the slavery issue, South Carolina would not have seceded. You think they would have gotten angry enough about tariffs to start shooting, quote, the ruling elite that ran this state all owned slaves. They denied the war was over slavery, insisting that it was over states' rights, but it was over the state's rights to own slaves and enforce white supremacy.
Starting point is 01:02:11 That's the reason the South Carolina flag was raised in 1961 to celebrate this, and it remained there. So Nikki Haley says that there are people who see this as a symbol of honor and respect and heritage. Why doesn't Nikki Haley have the guts to tell those people they were wrong? Because she wanted their votes, and she still wants their votes. That's what the real deal here is.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Now, let me also explain a few things that she broke down to Glenn Beck. Could y'all go ahead and cue that up? And when I tell you to stop it, please stop it. So once it's ready, hit play. a few things that she broke down to Glenn Beck. Could y'all go ahead and cue that up? And when I tell you to stop it, please stop it. So once it's ready, hit play. South Carolina fell to her knees when this happened. This is one of the oldest African-American churches.
Starting point is 01:03:01 These 12 people were amazing people. They loved their church. They loved their family. They loved their church. They loved their family. They loved their community. And here is this guy that comes out with his manifesto holding the Confederate flag and had just hijacked everything that people thought of. We don't have hateful people in South Carolina. There's always the small minority that's always going to be there. Stop. She said Dylann Roof just hijacked it. Folks, would y'all like to see, would y'all like to see photos of white folks waving the Confederate flag against folks in the civil rights movement? Would y'all like to see people in south carolina doing that
Starting point is 01:03:46 do y'all know that the governor of south carolina said he was not going to allow black folks to go to state universities do you know that south carolina said if they would shut down the entire education system in that state after brown versus board of Education? Do you know what the folks were doing? Waving the Confederate flag. There is a direct correlation between white hate and the Confederate flag. Those two have gone together. White folks in South Carolina and Alabama and Mississippi, when they were protesting civil rights and protesting black folks demanding their human rights, they were not waving the American flag. They were waving the Confederate flag.
Starting point is 01:04:30 So ask yourself this question. What made Dylann Roof write a manifesto, a white supremacist manifesto and embracing federal flags is because that's what a white supremacists have been doing for the last 100 years. Surely Nikki Haley has actually read a book. Surely Nikki Haley has done that. But guess what? Her own son told her. Abby Phillips, a correspondent for CNN, tweeted this today. Quote, when I talked to Haley in 2015, she was fully aware that many people in South Carolina associated the flag with hate long before Dylann Roof. She even told me that her son had raised the issue to her before. So I don't understand why she wouldn't even bother to mention that in this interview. Press play.
Starting point is 01:05:30 But people saw it as service and sacrifice and heritage. And but once he did that, there was no way to overcome it. And the national media came in in droves. They wanted to define what happened. They wanted to make this about racism. They wanted to make it about gun control. They wanted to make this about racism. They wanted to make it about gun control. They wanted to make it about death penalty. And I really put. Stop right there. The national media wanted to make this about race. No, the national media didn't want to make it about race, Nikki Haley. Dylann Roof made it about race.
Starting point is 01:06:10 When he purposely walked into a black church at a Bible study after folks had prayed for him and with him and pulled a gun out and killed nine black people. He pointed a gun at one of the black survivors and allowed her to leave so she could tell everybody what happened. Everybody, also, national media did not make the Confederate flag about hate. White folks did, more than 100 years. So don't play this game that, oh, it was the media who came in
Starting point is 01:06:44 and made this all about race. Press play. The national media and said there will be a time and place where we talk about this, but it is not now. We're going to get through the funerals. We're going to respect them. And then we will have that conversation. And we had a really tough few weeks of debate, but we didn't have riots. We had vigils. We didn't have riots. We had vigils.
Starting point is 01:07:05 We didn't have protests. We had hugs. And the people of South Carolina stepped up and showed the world. Stop right there. First of all, Nikki Haley, who the hell you think you fooling? She said, oh, we didn't have riots.
Starting point is 01:07:19 We didn't have protests. We had hugs. I recall Bree Newsome climbing that state capitol and bringing that damn flag down. That was a protest. Nikki Haley also lied because what she did not say to Glenn Beck, that the NAACP has long had a protest against the state of South Carolina, not allowing events to be held there. Oh, did y'all also know why the NCAA did not hold any of its tournaments in South Carolina? Because of the NAACP's protests, because that flag was flying above the state capitol.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Nikki Haley lied. There had been years of protests against that flag in South Carolina. There had been years of people standing up against that flag. So to say that, oh, in the aftermath of this, oh, we had some difficult conversations and there were no protests, there were hugs.
Starting point is 01:08:14 No, Nikki, that's a lie. What Nikki Haley wants is somehow credit for bringing the flag down. I'm not giving you credit. The credit for the flag, Confederate flag, coming down in South Carolina goes to the nine black people who spilled their blood in order for that to happen.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Just like I give credit to Medgar Evers and his blood being spilled and the four girls in Birmingham for us getting the 64th Civil Rights Act and for Jimmy Lee Jackson having to shed his blood for the 65th Civil Rights Act, and for Jimmy Lee Jackson having to shed his blood for the 65th Civil Rights Act. And all the black folks across the country who shed blood, who were killed
Starting point is 01:08:51 in race riots across America, that's what resulted in the 1968 Fair Housing Act. In fact, the Fair Housing Act had been debated and blocked, and it was filibustered by Republicans for more than two years. And Dr. King was killed on April 4th, 1968 in Memphis. And the next day, President Lyndon Baines Johnson sent a letter to the House saying the way to honor Dr. King's death is to pass the very bill that he died fighting
Starting point is 01:09:17 for. And that was the Fair Housing Act. And that bill was signed into law just nine days later. So Nikki, explain to me this here. Black people died for the Civil Rights Act. Black folks died for the Voting Rights Act. Black folks died for the Fair Housing Act. Black folks had to be killed for you to have the courage to remove the Confederate flag. And you somehow want some sympathy by tweeting
Starting point is 01:09:41 and having your Republican cohorts say that the media is wrong because we are harming you because of what you actually said to Glenn Beck about the Confederate flag. Nikki Haley, you're lying. And as an Indian American woman, you should understand racism when it came to Indian and Pakistan and their issues over the years. As an Indian American woman who we know can read, how do you deny the reality of real history? No, Nikki Haley, you are a political opportunities. You wanted the votes of those white races in South Carolina. You wanted the votes of those people races in South Carolina. You wanted the votes of those people so they could support you. And that's why you supported the Confederate flag. And that's
Starting point is 01:10:30 why you bought into the notion that the Confederate flag is all about honor and sacrifice. So now don't try to have your people tweet. No, Nikki wasn't saying that's how she felt. She said that's how they felt. No, you defended that flag for years. And it only came down because nine black people were killed by a racist Dylann Roof in a black church. You cannot attempt explain your way out of this. And what you said in that interview with Glenn Beck is a lie. You lied on the media. You lied about this whole issue with the flag. You lied about the protest.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Because we got receipts. And you can sit here and try all day to back it up. But you are flat out wrong. And this is why we will always call you out. And Dr. Carter, I don't know who these people think they are, but there's a reason they didn't want slaves to learn how to read. And the reason they didn't want black folks to learn how to read, because we knew that once we begin to read, we could see what the truth is. And that's what the deal here. Nikki Haley ain't fooling none of us.
Starting point is 01:11:46 We know the real history of that Confederate flag. The real reason why that flag came back into American society. The real reason why that flag was raised. The real reason why it stayed up. And the real reason why it came down. It was because nine black people got killed by a racist. And yes,
Starting point is 01:12:02 folks like Nikki Haley could no longer defend that flag because Dylann Roof used it for the same purpose white folks did after, since 1948, to combat black people. Oh yeah. I mean, she was totally insincere. And I mean, this line about sort of reclaiming this as some noble event. I mean, let's be clear, that flag didn't come down until Brie Newsom went up on that poll, right? Nikki Haley had no intention of doing anything about that Confederate flag.
Starting point is 01:12:33 None of these places did about these memorials and all these things that, again, crop up, as you rightly point out, in this post-war period where people are trying to reclaim this in an effort to intimidate black folks. I mean, we know what that flag means. Anybody who's ever said this is just a symbol of our pride, where are black people not southerners? Do black people not have pride? It is a symbol of treason, more importantly. It is also a symbol of hate. It is a symbol of attempts to deny me of my humanity and my
Starting point is 01:12:59 ancestors of their humanity. And it is a flag that has no redeeming value. But we can invest it with all these good qualities if we want to. There's a reason why Confederates like Dylann Roof, like other sort of hate groups, and these white supremacist organizations all use that flag. Because they know what it symbolizes.
Starting point is 01:13:20 And for Nikki Haley to sit here and try to do all this backpedaling and rescue this flag from the death what it symbolizes. And for Nikki Haley to sit here and try to do all this backpedaling and rescue this flag from the death that it should have died a hundred plus years ago is gross, is disgusting, is insincere, and is intellectually dishonest. And she knows it. Michael, again, if you see her, she's on Twitter and you've got the Republicans. She's like, thank you for coming to my defense and they took my words out of context.
Starting point is 01:13:47 She's saying that, no, I didn't say, she's trying to suggest that, no, I didn't say you represented service, sacrifice, and heritage. Others said that, but yeah, but she's been defending it. She supported it. She ain't fooling nobody. And you touched on it. It's all about
Starting point is 01:14:03 presidential politics five years from now. She wants to run for president, and she thinks that the Republican Party has now turned into 45's party. And she knows if she steps up too hard against that base of support, that they may not be there for her. I'm assuming she's going to run against Mike Pence,
Starting point is 01:14:23 unless he's already president by then. But so we'll have to just wait and see what happens. But it's all about presidential politics. She understands what she's doing. You dissected it perfectly. And now we'll just have to wait and see what happens in a few years. Julian, look, we know what this is. And Julian, here's what I find to be interesting. Republicans love to talk about we're the party of Lincoln. And then you have folks like Dinesh D'Souza saying it was those Democrats who were the racists. It was those Democrats who created the KKK. Don't you find it interesting that Republicans love to say that? But which party is the one today defending
Starting point is 01:15:07 Confederate statues? Which party is the one today defending Confederate flag? Republican party, your party. What do you make of this Nikki Haley nonsense? It's nonsense. This is part of the old guard. And at some point, you know, we have to realize if you want to see change, you got to step up. You know, I don't support the current system that the old guard has in place right now. And that particularly pertains to the current issues we have now are not being fixed based upon the old guard that's in place trying to fix them. You can't use what was done in the 50s and 60s and think that's going to fix our current issues of today. And the problem with that is we still have this racial tension and racial divide.
Starting point is 01:15:54 I'm from Mississippi, born and raised, so I understand the Confederate flag completely. I've never looked at the Confederate flag and said, hey, this is a symbol of heritage, not my heritage. I don't look at that as a symbol of heritage, not my heritage. I don't look at that as a symbol of heritage. I just look at it for what it is. You know, it symbolizes racism towards my people. It symbolizes hate. So at some point, you have to address the issues. And if they're not going to tell the truth, we need to tell the truth. And, you know, I encourage all people of
Starting point is 01:16:24 color to sit back and not sit back and just say, well, we're going to wait for the next person to step up and say what we've been saying. Step up yourself. If it is the end, it must begin with me. It must begin with you. We can't sit back and wait for somebody to voice our opinions
Starting point is 01:16:40 or voice our concerns. If we're tired of what we're seeing, if we're tired of this Confederate flag being waved around, step up and do something. Don't just sit back and bring something up to be voted on. Get off your ass and go run for office. That's how you implement change. Make sure you're a registered voter.
Starting point is 01:16:58 If you don't understand the importance of voting, go to a central committee meeting, whether it be Democrat or Republican, but understand why our ancestors died for our right to vote. Understand that voting changes things. But Julian, the reality is this here. Nikki Haley knows exactly who she's talking to and game recognized game. And so that's why we broke this thing down.
Starting point is 01:17:21 And she can try to sit here and dance around it and try to call out the media, but we heard exactly what she had to say to Glenn Beck. We heard what she said in 2015. We heard what she said before that, and she defended that flag. Defended it! And it took nine black
Starting point is 01:17:39 folks dying for it to come down, and should not have taken black folks having to be killed for it to come down. Alright, have taken black folks having to be killed for it to come down all right folks y'all know what time it is crazy wife crazy wife i'm white i got you girl um illegally selling water with our permit on my property Okay. Okay. Black man trying to do his job, delivering some packages. He works for UPS. And this crazy-ass white woman had to roll up on him.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Give me somebody's information to check up on you because I don't understand why you're walking around this neighborhood with a bunch of packages this is what I'd be talking about these folks be bothering me like I'm not I'm not bothering you so I don't want to complain to UPS that you're looking very suspicious and making me nervous. What? I live in this home. I'm making you nervous? Yes, absolutely. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:18:53 You absolutely are making me nervous. This is crazy. Because, no, let me tell you why. Yeah, tell me why. My car's already been broken into twice. And guess what? Yeah. It's a really big thing in this neighborhood for people to walk down the street for vandalism. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:05 So I don't even live over here. I'm not giving you shit. I need you to give me your name. I'm not giving you shit. Then we're going to stand here for a while, aren't we? Man, stay in my ass. Then I'll be following you until I get you. Damn, this lady is crazy, yo.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Like I said, you look very suspicious. I'm trying to tell you. Man, get your motherfuckers. You need to at least be able to tell people who you work for. Man, I have the jacket on. She's smoking crack. And we'll talk to the driver's route. What?
Starting point is 01:19:39 It's the person I need to talk to them about. Lady, you smoking good crack. Well, you might need to be crack What the fuck Wow that's crazy This lady is taking pictures of me And recording me like It's all the trip and like I work for UPS This shit crazy man See how these folks do I work for UPS. This shit crazy, man.
Starting point is 01:20:06 See how these folks do me out here, shaw? This shit crazy. This lady is crazy. Wow. That's crazy. Call the police? Damn, Michael. And it took the white UPS driver to vouch for the brother.
Starting point is 01:20:33 That's crazy. And one thing, they didn't take your tip. They didn't turn their phone sideways. You know, you got to have the phone sideways. I know, man. I know. They keep killing me with that. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:20:43 I mean, what are you going to say? It's just, Julie and I were just talking, and the professor, we were wondering if, no excuse, but we were wondering if she was a little bit on the sauce and a little drunk, and because of the way she was smiling, her body language. Again, no excuse for how she acted. But she's, remember you like to check
Starting point is 01:21:01 to see if people lose their jobs when they do stupid stuff like this? Have you checked? Still waiting to find out. And Dr. Carr, that's the real deal here. And I know there are people out there who are saying, man, you shouldn't show these things as triggering for black people. No, no, no. The reason we keep showing these, because I want people to understand, these are not one-offs.
Starting point is 01:21:22 This is not, oh, well, that one thing. No. This is, in this age of Trump, this is a consistent harassment of black people that people can't say, oh, that stuff was so far back during the Jim Crow days and slavery. No. This is 2019.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Well, I mean, look, what it basically says is there's nothing you can do, and there's nothing you can do and there's nowhere you can go if you are black. You can't be in your house, right? Because we've seen police come in people's houses and shoot at, harass and arrest. You can't be in your car, right? You can't sell water on the street, right? You can't ride the train. There's basically nowhere you can go as a black person unmolested by some white person if they feel bothered, right? And if they wanted to, and I'm sure she probably would have,
Starting point is 01:22:10 treated the police as her own personal bouncers and removed this man from her street for doing his job, right? Because she felt threatened, which is always, I think, the curious thing that comes up is they always feel threatened, yet they want to come confront somebody. If you feel threatened, you don't go up to the person that you actually think is doing some mischief or might cause you some harm, yet they always seem to end up in somebody's face and on somebody's camera and now broadcast around the world, right? But this is what white supremacy does, right? This is what
Starting point is 01:22:38 white racism does. It blinds people to facts, right? But not only blinds, it tries to become their cover for doing what they wanted to do anyway, which is simply harass this man and ask him questions that she had no right to ask him, and he told her exactly what she needed to hear, which is, I'm not giving you anything, and you can get out my face. That's what she's
Starting point is 01:22:59 really mad about, actually. Julian, Bob Lott, Julian, Dr. Carter's point, black folks, we can't barbecue, we can't sell lemonade, we can't park our car, we can't deliver packages, we can't leave our own builders, because you got these racist white folks out here
Starting point is 01:23:16 who believe that they have the absolute right to check our papers. Yeah, I don't know what to make of it. I hope and pray it doesn't go left, but I think it's gonna take the right white person to run up on the wrong black person and they gonna get their ass whooped.
Starting point is 01:23:33 And it's gonna be on camera and it's gonna go viral and send a message out. Like right now, everybody's put on notice. Keep doing it. We showing, we putting you on blast. We calling you out. At some point in time, the right
Starting point is 01:23:47 people are going to meet the wrong people, and it's going to go bad for somebody. And it's going to get to a point where black people are going to get tired of being harassed for doing simple things like taking our trash out. Doing simple stuff like our job. This man is delivering packages. He's
Starting point is 01:24:04 not peeping in nobody's window. He is actually trying to do his job, what he's paid to do, but he can't do it because he's being harassed for the simple fact of the color of his skin. And it shouldn't have took a Caucasian gentleman, his co-worker, to come up for her to say, oh, you work for UPS.
Starting point is 01:24:21 My bad. That's all you had to say. I didn't know that. The tip-off, the truck wasn't a tip-off. Right. All the boxes. The uniform, the ID for UPS. My bad. That's all you had to say. I didn't know that. The truck wasn't a tip-off. The uniform, the ID, the packages. Give me the packages and I'll do it. I'm like, no. Like I was telling
Starting point is 01:24:34 them, I'm like, maybe she had drunk some wine and ran out and maybe she got mad because she didn't want to leave the house and go get wine and let me go harass this person. I don't know what it is. It's just crazy and it needs to stop no it needs to stop no i know what it is i know what i know what it is he was black she's white and she felt she had she had superiority over him you know what we should flip the script we should we should flip the script instead of white people harassing
Starting point is 01:25:02 blacks why don't we start harassing whites just so they can see how it feels and just walk up on them and say, hey, what are you doing in my neighborhood? That's how we get killed. Exactly. Hell, you know damn well when the cops roll up, we're going to be the first one to get shot. Especially doing the stuff that she's doing. We know that deal.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Oh, yeah. Alright, folks. I want to thank y'all for joining us. And, hey, folks, tomorrow morning I'm going to be giving the commencement address, Tennessee State University. And so thank Dr. Glenda Glover for inviting me. So that's going to be around 8 a.m. And so they should be live streaming it. And so I will tweet that out for y'all to check out. Now, tomorrow night, so I'm in Nashville now speaking in Tennessee State in the morning.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Then as Tom Jones said said I'm fly jocking I'll be heading to St. Louis so tomorrow night the brothers of Alpha Phi Alpha Epsilon land the chapter don't hate Michael and Julian they got their 100th anniversary celebration I'll be giving the keynote I know y'all are two omegas
Starting point is 01:25:59 I know you couldn't wear this but it's all good trust me I wouldn't wear that I wouldn't want to wear that. Next time I see you in the studio, I'll make sure I give you a gift. I have a nice Founders Day gift for you. But the one thing I do know y'all makers did, you took one of our colors because you couldn't be original. That's right.
Starting point is 01:26:22 So I got to go. All right, folks. So again, Tennessee State, we State we gonna light that thing up tomorrow graduation let's get rid of have some fun to the Alphas I'll see you guys tomorrow night in St. Louis I want to thank everybody who watches this show
Starting point is 01:26:35 and let me tell you something I love you know what I love I gotta go ahead and end it this way I love all of these haters who for the last year all these so called new black media people who trashed us saying this wasn't going to be successful.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Here's what I find to be real interesting. After one year we did 100.7 million views, 345 million minutes watched, nearly 500,000 plays on our podcast. But here's the one that's really cracking me up, y'all. Just so y'all understand.
Starting point is 01:27:08 When we launched this show, we had around 130,000 subscribers to our YouTube channel. Okay? That's who was subscribing to this show. Let me just check right now. So this is for all you haters. Okay? All you fake new black media people out there. And, yeah, I'm talking to you uh y'all
Starting point is 01:27:26 know who i'm talking to uh because i don't even well i ain't gonna give your name because you ain't worth nothing today we got 409 000 subscribers so in 14 months y'all and this is for the folks who can't do math in 14 months we have increased our YouTube channel subscribers by 279,000. Hell, we've added more new subscribers than they have total. That's what happens when black people understand who really understands media, who really is speaking to our issues, and who aren't frauds. So y'all can run around with your little boy Isaiah Washington. Yeah, Isaiah, I read your little punk ass tweet. That's why I called you out.
Starting point is 01:28:05 And you afraid to debate me as well because now you running around. And I know, Julian, you got to be laughing when all of a sudden Isaiah's like, ooh, now all of a sudden he a Republican. Man, we'll sit down, boy. I know real black Republicans. But the point I'm saying is, folks,
Starting point is 01:28:20 y'all know the real deal. Y'all know the issues we cover. Y'all know the panelists that we have and the guests that we have. There's nobody else doing a five-day-a-week show that speaks to our issues. Nobody. Nobody else who's doing it.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Okay, so they can run their miles in one or two days, but we are committed to black people, committed to our issues, and committed to raising the consciousness of our folks. So let me tell you right now, all y'all wannabes talking y'all me tell you right now, all y'all want to be talking y'all new black media. And I want y'all to clip this and share it because when y'all share with your followers, all you doing is getting me more followers because I don't share nothing y'all
Starting point is 01:28:54 send out. I dare y'all to do what we do. I dare you to put the voices that we have on. I dare you to put the members of Congress on. I dare you to have folks like Alicia Garza on your show. I dare you to have a black economist and black generals and black political scientists and black studies leaders and black Republicans and black conservatives and black liberals and black progressives. I dare you to try this five days a week. You think you knew?
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