#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 2.10: Buttigieg vs. Systemic racism; Death penalty for drug dealers? Gayle, Oprah & Black men drama

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at taylorpapersceiling.org. Brought to you by Opportunity at Work and the Ad Council. Hey folks, Roland Barton here. Today is Monday, February 10 Roland Martin here. Today is Monday, February 10th, 2020. I'm broadcasting live from the Susan Taylor National Cares Mentoring Gala. They'll be honoring billionaire Robert Smith. We'll be hearing from both of them a little bit later in the show. Coming up next on Roland Martin Unfiltered, what's up all the drama in the Democratic primary?

Pete Buttigieg, of course, getting lots of attention. Senator Bernie Sanders, though, is the one who's leading in New Hampshire polls. They go to the polls tomorrow. What does it mean for Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, and others? And what the hell is James Carville talking about? I'm going to break all this stuff down with our panel and look forward to that as well, folks. A federal judge has ruled against Georgia Governor Brian Kemp. A lawsuit filed by investigative journalist Greg Pallas when it comes to folks who've been kicked off the voting rolls

in Georgia. We'll talk with Greg right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Also on today's show, of course, Matthew Cherry, big winner last night at the Oscars for his short animated movie, short film, Hair Love. And so, of course, we featured him on the show so big congrats to him And of course again, we'll talk to other folks here at this Susan Taylor National Chairs mentoring gala They're in 58 cities all across the country folks. We got a great show for you It's time to bring the the fact, the fine. And when it breaks, he's right on time. And it's rolling, best belief he's knowing.

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Yeah, yeah He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best You know he's Rollin' Martin Now Martin. Martin. All right, folks, Roland Martin here. I am from Cipriani Wall Street here in New York City for the Susan Taylor For the Love of Our Children Gala, benefiting the National Cares Mentoring Project.

As you can see, folks are already coming here on the red carpet here. And of course, you see Susan Taylor over there, also with honoree billionaire Robert Smith. We'll be talking about both of them in just a few minutes. But let's talk about politics. Voters in New Hampshire go to the polls tomorrow, where it is a tight race. Senator Bernie Sanders is in the lead. Pete Blue Judge, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana. He, of course, is also running second. Lots of attention in the Granite State. But there's still a lot of people talking about Buttigieg when it comes to his record with African-Americans. In Friday's debate, ABC's Lindsay Davis pressed him on the issue of African-Americans being arrested in his city. How do you go back to the original question, though. How do you explain the increase in black arrests in South Bend under your leadership for marijuana

possession? And again, the overall rate was lower. No, there was an increase. The year before you were in office, it was lower. Once you became in office in 2012, that number went up. In 2018, the last number a year that we have a record for, that number was still up. And one of the strategies that our community adopted was to target when there were cases where there was gun violence and gang violence, which was slaughtering so many in our community, burying teenagers, disproportionately black teenagers. We

adopted a strategy that said that drug enforcement would be targeted in cases where there was a connection to the most violent group or gang connected to a murder. These things are all connected, but that's the point. So are all of the things that need to change in order for us to prevent violence and remove the effects of systemic racism, not just from criminal justice, but from our economy, from health, from housing, and from our democracy itself. Senator Warren, is that a substantial answer from Mayor Buttigieg? No.

That answer did not sit well with City Councilman-elect Henry Davis. This is what he tweeted that night. Quote, as a councilman in South Bend, I know why Pete Buttigieg looked like a deer in headlights last night when talking about systemic racism in the South Bend police. He tolerated it, perpetuated it, and last night he lied to millions of Americans about it. Joining us right now is Councilman Henry Davis. First of all, sir, thank you for joining us at Roland Martin Unfiltered. How you doing, Roland?

Thank you for having me. So first and foremost, you were not happy with the answer from Mayor Buttigieg. It wasn't an answer. He just kind of wanted to go over some details of some programming that he thought that was going to satisfy the panelists question. That was not an answer. That was a way of dodging the question that was out there. Do you believe that that he is skirting around the issue? Many others have been highly critical of his record, not only when it comes to, you know, arrests of African-Americans,

but also black businesses in South Bend, Indiana. He also, though, has his supporters of African-Americans there in South Bend. He had an ad that featured the president of South Bend, Indiana, NAACP. Your thoughts on that? Well, sure. You're going to always have your supporters. I mean, you're going to have people that still cheer on Larry Bird when when michael jackson and michael michael jordan it was the you know best basketball player ever to play basketball so i mean you're gonna always gonna have the people that go to another

side um but you know here in south bend we've had a number of issues of issues that need to be corrected um the daily beats just a few days ago wrote an article talking about zero monies going to the black community through contracts for over three years straight. That was under his leadership. So you have a number of things, again, that does not go towards the idea of black people getting their fair share in South Indiana. sharing in south vietnam and it's on purpose i mean the only way that it can happen if it's on purpose but the larger issue right now where we got to talk about whirlwind is you know the democratic party and how the democratic party has poisoned itself to try to win and beat a donald trump when the person that they're trying to put their uh money behind has absolutely no black support um has zero black support and that's a colossal fail and that's a slap in the face to the black voter that participates in a direct democratic party so we have to figure out well first of all

well here's the deal first of all there are african-americans there are african-americans who are supporting uh mayor buddha judge uh he has received the endorsements uh of course congressman anthony Congressman Anthony Brown of Maryland and others as well. But to your point, first of all, we've only had one state vote, and that was barely vote, only 170,000 people. And so moving forward, what do you believe should be asked of Pete Buttigieg by African-Americans and others as he makes the case why he should be the Democratic nominee? Well, Roland, again, I think it's insane to ask him anything else. He was the mayor here in South Bend, Indiana, for eight years. Under his leadership here in

South Bend, the black community's poverty rate increased upwards to 50 percent. We have double digit black unemployment. Our schools and our black communities are failing. They're talking about closing five more right now. You're talking about the lowest number of African-Americans serving in the police department right now. You just started seeing some black department heads, but now that there's a new administration in, he's already told you what he was going to do, what he is going to do, and what he has done. I don't have any more questions to ask somebody that didn't tell me who they are.

So I think the Democratic Party needs to focus their efforts on someone who has the ability to bring in the black vote and to make sure the black vote is not only voting, but is satisfied and continues to get what they need from this process that we call electoral politics. All right, Councilman Henry Davis, I certainly appreciate it. Thanks for joining us at Roller Box Unfiltered. Thank you. All right, I want to go to my panel right now. Dr. Avis Jones-DeWeaver, political analyst. Also, Derek Holley, he is the president of Reaching America, also political

analyst, and Lauren Victoria Burke. She's a consultant with Lieutenant Governor Justin Fairfax. I want to start with you, Avis. Obviously, so much attention is on Pete Buttigieg, but here's the point that I keep making. I don't understand why folks are having a problem with this. One state has voted. 170,000 people turned out. It is nonsense to me to somehow anoint that the nominee is going to be Pete Buttigieg or is going to be Senator Bernie Sanders because guess what? Folks haven't voted yet.

I don't understand why Democrats are going crazy when one state has voted. He has a very loud minority of Democrats who are pushing him and I believe trying to push him on the rest of us. Because what you just said was absolutely true. In fact, I would say that no state has voted because Iowa had a disaster of a caucus system. And even within the caucus system, he didn't receive the majority of the votes. So through some magical formulation, he got the slightly higher delegate count, but nobody can trust any of those results given what happened. The bottom line to me is when the first two states are over 90% white and performance in those two states are somehow used as kingmakers. It, to me, shows a privilege of white concerns that is not at all reflective of the Democratic Party, much less the rest of America. To me, whoever wins in

Iowa or New Hampshire means nothing to me. I need to see who's going to really be able to pull together the diverse coalition that's actually going to be necessary in order to win the presidential contest in November. Derek, when you begin to break this thing down, look, you have New Hampshire voting tomorrow, then you have Nevada, then you have South Carolina as well. But the key is going to be on March 3rd, Super Tuesday. I pull the numbers. If you go back to 1992, Bill Clinton did not win his first state until Georgia. It was the sixth state. He then lost another half dozen before he won South Carolina. So he actually won three of the first 14 primaries,

and he went on to win the nomination and become a two-term president. And so I'm just, I don't understand. I'm watching James Carville lose his mind on MSNBC and talk about Michael Bennett is the guy. 1% in the polls. If you think Pete Buttigieg has no black support, check out Michael Bennett, who has less black support than Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar, who are at zero? Well, I think Buttigieg, for, like, I think Dr. Avis and I were talking a couple weeks ago, for whatever reason, this boy's been chosen.

He's been anointed for some reason. And I think it would be straight because he's white and gay. He's something the Democratic Party think that they could put out there and maybe have a shot. But we all know, again, this has just been two states, New Hampshire and Iowa, who don't represent a whole lot of black people. I would say the other thing is, man, have you ever been to South Bend? I had the chance to go a couple years ago. Only thing that's out there is Notre Dame football, and that's why I was out there. But there's not a lot of opportunity out there for black people again I mean Lauren I guess the thing that this also drive me crazy and I'm seriously

it's really driving me crazy these cable these these cable shows these networks are really getting on my damn nerves I'm also tired of this whole electability issue because the reality is you're only electable if you get elected. Yes. Okay? People said Donald Trump was not electable. He's sitting in the Oval Office. Right. There are people who said Barack Obama, not electable.

His name is Barack Hussein Obama, two-term president. What I keep trying to tell people to understand is stop this silliness with electability. People say, well, is Elizabeth Warren, is she electable? Here's the deal. She came in third in Iowa. I don't know why that's no big deal. She's polling right now, third or fourth in New Hampshire. We'll see what happens. But my deal is to cable people. And I'm like, shut the, just shut up and actually let voters do what they do by making their own choices and decisions. Right, and the fact of the matter is that I think it's something probably like 80% or 70% of the electorate is already locked up when the thing starts.

You have the people who are just built in who are going to vote team red and the people who are going to vote team blue, and that's sort of how it is for most. And you've got the swings that are really the group that everybody is going after, sort of a 20%, maybe even less than that, part of the electorate. So once Donald Trump's name appeared on the ballot, I mean, you knew he was going to get a baseline percentage. I think really what's going on with Pete Buttigieg is that he is like, you know, he's like the John Ossoff right now for a lot of people.

He's this person who's the shiny object. I don't meet too many people who actually think that he could beat Donald Trump. And part of that is predicated on the idea that he has only won a very small election where he is in South Bend. Obviously, with a United States senator, you know that they can at least win a state somewhere in the United States. And so for Warren and even Bernie Sanders, who, of course, represents a smaller state of Vermont, but still he's a senator, and he's already proven that he could beat Hillary Clinton in a few states on the last go-round, even though he didn't win, but there's a lot of support there. He also polled really well against Hillary Clinton and, of course, Donald Trump, which was an odd thing, but I think it was that populist message that both of them were talking about that sort of transcended party a little bit.

Frankly, I think the panic on cable news is really about Bernie Sanders. There's a lot of haters of Bernie Sanders on cable news. They can't stand Bernie Sanders. And so anytime Bernie Sanders starts to surge, there's this panic that goes through the pundit class. I mean, look right now, look right now. The new poll by Quinnipiac has Bernie Sanders in the lead. And here's my whole deal. OK, guess what? If Bernie Sanders goes out and wins and gets the 1900, he earned it. OK, right. You know, you've got the Carvilles of the world freaking out. And like this is the one that really got me to listen to James Carville today in the morning joke where nobody pushed back on none of the nonsense he was saying when he goes, oh, all this Pollyanna stuff. And then he said, you know, let's just get to South Carolina so black folks can vote and show us the way.

And I'm like, oh, so James Carville was black people to save white folks' ass. Well, see, you know, it's funny. I caught part of it. I'm confused because, see, I thought, help me out. I caught part of that Carville segment. I thought it was about Biden and Sanders appealing to these white folks. Isn't it amazing that white people have voted in Iowa and they're voting in New Hampshire,

and now Carver is like, -"Black people, please save us." -"Yeah, I-I really think, you know, I hate to say this, but nobody can convince me that the part of this fear of Bernie Sanders is the fact that he's Jewish. I cannot talk myself into this not being, at the end of the day, about anti-Semitism. The reason I say that is that

I think if he was a WASP, we wouldn't be having this conversation. He's got a Brooklyn accent, and he looks like a rumpled professor, so people are scared of him getting elected. And I have no idea why, because he has a populist message that a lot of Americans really agree with. No, no, no. I'll answer for you.

I'll answer for you. They're freaking out because Bernie Sanders is talking about them. The problem is they don't like the fact that Bernie Sanders in his message, he's talking about the people who have controlled

the process for years. That's why. But Bernie Sanders has the same message. Bernie Sanders has the same message really as FDR, and nobody got freaked out because FDR... No, no, no. I think the fact... FDR was a Democrat.

I really think the fact that he talks about poverty and he talks about things that a lot of these pundits, frankly, don't identify with... That's what I'm asking. ...is problematic for them. And also, I do think it matters what his religion... I mean, people flipped out over Mitt Romney being a Mormon, if you remember. And it is

something not talked about, but I just feel like if this was... Mike Bloomberg is Jewish. Right. They call him, and they're saying that's the second coming. Yeah, we talked about that a few weeks ago, Rowan. But Bloomberg is, like, further away

from winning than Bernie Sanders. No, I don't think so. I don't believe that at all. I don't believe that at all. I don't think Bloomberg is the dark horse. Given what just happened with Iowa, Bloomberg is looking mighty smart right now. And that's the reason why they changed. Here's the deal.

New Hampshire, you know, honestly, this is not going to start until you get past these first two states because Iowa is awash. You know, really. It's way too early to count it now. Avis, to be honest, the reality is all these discussions that these cable shows are having are all irrelevant until March 4th. We will have a real understanding of what this race looks like after March 4th.

Because here's the piece. What happens if Biden comes in 4th or 5th tomorrow? Second in Nevada. Wait a minute. Hold up. But then wins South Carolina. So that means what? Is he not back on track?

Then what happens on March 3rd Bloomberg wins no states But here's my point, okay, I'm not we don't know who's gonna South Carolina But I'm making the point right that this race can do this it can shift it can move and these people are actually doing a disservice to voters By let's let's let's tear down Sanders. Let's build up Buttigieg. Let's dismiss Elizabeth Warren. Let's let's let's let's talk about how Klobuchar is doing so great. But nobody ever asked Amy Klobuchar why she can't get black votes.

Right. Point is, let people decide. And I think and again, my whole deal is I'm not endorsing anybody. I'm saying March 4th, we're going to have the best look as to who really is a strong candidate, by how many states they won, what kind of coalition they put together. But I'm not basing the whole world off 170,000 white folks in Iowa. I know it's a few black people and Latinos in there. But the panic is Sanders. The panic is around, oh, my goodness, if Sanders is the nominee. And that, to me, is strange because he... It's not strange to me.

Let me tell you why I don't think it's strange. I don't think it's strange. It's not strange because, number one, here's the thing. It's a couple of things with Bernie Sanders. Number one, he's not a Democrat. And that's a reality. I mean, this is someone who only is a Democrat when he decides he wants to run for president. And so after the last presidential election period, he put a lot of pressure on the Democratic Party to change rules,

much of which they actually accommodated for somebody that's actually not even a member of the damn party. And then as soon as he sort of jumps back into the race, switches back to being a member of the Democratic Party, he simultaneously registers to run for reelection in the Senate as an independent. He's not a Democrat. And then you have the way that his, yes, it does matter. Because how much, well, let me finish my argument. Let me finish my argument. His name is going to appear on the Democratic ballot. This is why it matters. This is why it matters. Wait, wait, wait. This is why it matters. Wait, wait.

Avis, finish your point in the lawn. Then I've got to go to Greg Palast. Go. Absolutely. This is why it matters because we're talking about the level of hostility. If you're going to ask people to work with you, then you have to show an ability to work with them. See, this is exactly what Hillary Clinton was talking about when he said people don't like you and y'all ain't like to hear that. She wasn't talking about everybody in the world, but that's just plain common sense. Okay. So people have changed rules to accommodate him.

And as his campaign is running, let me just say really quickly, you will notice that he seems to focus like a laser on establishment Democrats in terms of his attacks. I do not see anywhere near the same level of vitriol aimed at Donald Trump, the person who he is supposed to be ultimately trying to run against. So when you have that sort of thing going on, you can't really expect to have a lot of people sort of rallying behind you.

I got it. Lauren, real quick. His name is going to appear on the democratic ballot whether there's an I there or not when he's in the Senate. It is what it is. The other thing is, Hillary Clinton is going to appear on the Democratic ballot, whether there's an I there or not when he's in the Senate.

Yeah, but you want to know about him. It is what it is. The other thing is Hillary Clinton's crew. One second, Lauren, finish your point. Hillary Clinton's crew with Mark Penn and those people were a big pain in the ass eight years ago. Everybody put up with it because it was Hillary Clinton. There's something about Bernie Sanders, I'm telling you,

that makes people, oh, my goodness, are we going to win? And I just, I don't know what that is because he's talking. He has a very populist message that people agree with, and we'll see what happens. It's populist, but it's socialist, and I just don't think that's going to be the answer. It's not going to work against Donald Trump. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, here's the deal, okay? We can say what's not going to work against Donald Trump. The bottom line is this here.

You can't do nothing unless you win the nomination. Absolutely. Win the nomination, you're going to be the nominee. And so here's what I say to the James Carvilles of the world and the people who don't want Senator Bernie Sanders, get off your ass, get off cable news, and actually go out and mobilize people. That's what you need to do.

But the bottom line is this here. He has a group of people who are behind him. And so at the end of the day, it's Carville can't say it's about winning if the person who he's complaining about is actually winning. That's what it boils down to. And so again, we don't know. People say, oh, no way in hell Donald Trump is going to be president. I thought so. All right, folks in Georgia, investigative journalist Greg Pallas has beaten Governor Brian Kemp in federal court when it came to the removal of people from the voting rolls. Greg joins us right now on Roller Park. Greg, how are you doing? Actually, surprisingly excellent. I mean, I didn't expect this court ruling. The judge acted for those lawyers out there sui sponte we didn't even ask her to declare us the winner in the case she said brian kemp in effect has been lying to me that is

the governor of georgia who stole and i emphasized the word stole the election from stacy abrams in 2018. i filed a suit i was working with rolling Rolling Stone and then Salon and now The Guardian. And we filed suit to get Jack, excuse me, Brian Kemp's inside documents on the mass purge of over half a million Georgians. Half a million. Half a million. We got some of it and we found that at least 340,134 Georgians were illegally removed. Now, you have to understand, I had a team of experts, the guys that work with eBay and Amazon, go through

every address, every name. Brian Kemp said these people left the state or left Atlanta. They're still in their homes where they registered, 340,134 of them. We have each one's name and address, including they blocked from voting the 92-year-old cousin of Martin Luther King. I was there when they threw her out of the polls. It was going to be her 50th year of voting. And they threw her out saying that there was no record of her ever voting. They wouldn't let her vote. Right. She was on that hit list. So now the judge has told Brian Kemp, you don't even get a trial. You've lost this suit.

I'm not even gonna ask Greg Palast to go to trial. And by the way, I was also joined by the organization of Reverend Joseph Lowery, the great civil rights leader. He's 95 and now he's 96. And he said, you know, this is just Jim Crow all over again. And we've busted Brian Kemp. But Greg just jim crow all over again and we've busted brian kevin we'll get all the information and reverse this terrible purge not only in georgia this will have national implications we're busting open the secret files of all these purging generals that

the gop has operating in michigan and in ohio and greg of course of course, Greg, of course, the Supreme Court allowed for the purging of those voter rolls, that lawsuit filed by that white man in Ohio. But this also goes to show why people have got to be aggressive in going after folks like Governor Kemp and not being afraid to challenge Republicans who want to purge the voting rolls, who want to enact voter suppression? Well, I should add that the information I got, the names and addresses of the 340,000, one-third of a million Georgians wrongly removed by Kemp. Kemp used the method that was supposedly authorized by the Supreme Court. We've proved it's wrong. This material, my files have gone to Stacey Abrams

organization. My experts are now working with her and she is going back into the federal courts to reverse, to basically undo that horrendous decision by saying we've got the real evidence. Now, I, as a journalist, now have this inside information. And I found out, by the way, we're getting out of this also is that Brian Kemp was working with, you'll remember, Chris Kobach of Kansas. And I don't, you know, basically Chris Kobach is a white supremacist, and I rarely use that term on an official, but he is. And Brian Kemp was working with him not only to remove voters in the state of Georgia from the voter rolls, but to remove voters nationwide in 30 other states. I'm getting those files of Brian Kemp's secret lockup with Chris Kobach, their hit list

of almost 7 million voters that they went after, mostly voters of color, African-Americans, Hispanics, and Asian-Americans. It is, this is a big win. And once we expose this stuff, I think we're going to be able to reverse a lot of these purges before 2020, before the election.

All right. Well, Greg Palast, well, Greg, certainly congratulations. And we'll keep bringing this to the attention of our viewers because it's critically important. Thanks a bunch. Take it easy. All right. I want to go to our panel on this issue here.

And that is this constant, this ongoing drama dealing with Gayle King and Lisa Leslie, Kobe Bryant, and Snoop Dogg. I'm sorry. This has reached the point for me where this is ridiculously overblown. If you got an opinion against Gayle King, that's fine. But I think just this going on and on and on,

people losing their minds over this, really. This is, it makes no sense to me that it's continuing, Avis. Yeah, it is continuing. I mean, it was, it has, I think, should have run its course by now. But here is the situation. So, you know, honestly, I believe that the way Gail approached her follow-up questions appeared to be very biased. And this man and his child have yet to be laid to rest. And because of that, it hit some nerves.

Now, of course, what Snoop did was absolutely way over the top and not at all acceptable. We're live. Exactly. But you also had on the other side, what appeared to be a coordinated PR campaign to push back. And so this is what has led to the back and forth. And it will probably go on a little bit longer. Derek, again, I mean, now you've got this whole deal. I'm with Snoop. I'm with Gayle, and this whole back and forth. And look, here's the reality. I talked about this on my show Friday. Look, journalists, we ask questions, we might tick some

people off. But this constant, this whole deal, and now it's black men and black women got to pick sides. Now I got fools out there mad with Roland, why you side with Gayle? I didn't side with Gayle. I didn't side with Snoop. I didn't side with Gayle. I didn't side with Snoop. And now it's black men and black women got to pick sides. Now I got fools out there mad with Roland, why you side with Gayle?

I didn't side with Gayle. I didn't side with Snoop. I didn't side with anybody. You know, then this whole deal is like, well, you can't say nothing until the funeral. I mean, that's all socials, Jonathan. I mean, no, it's just, I mean, it's like all of these people are going on and on and on.

So are they actually trying to tell me that, oh, the funeral is February 24th, and so on February 25th we can have the conversation? No, they're going to be pissed off on February 25th. I mean, so let's just stop. Yeah, but at the same time, I can see both sides. However, I thought it was just a little, I thought it was out of bounds for Gayle

to pose that question too. And I look at Gayle sometimes as not one of the best interviewers because Lauren and I were talking earlier, I looked at that interview that she did with Justin Fairfax's accusers, and I felt like she was out of bounds with that because she didn't have all the facts with that particular interview. And so I just look at Gayle sometimes, even the R. Kelly interview I thought was a little over the top, a little extra.

And so sometimes I just think Gail could take a step back, especially with this situation with Kobe Bryant, because the man hadn't been laid to rest. I know we don't have to go by the date before we have to start speaking about his death or whatever he did. But my biggest thing with Kobe was not what he did with that, that alleged what happened with that young lady in 2002, 2003. It was what happened with him between him and Shaq when he threw Shaq

under the bus. And so that was the biggest thing I had with Kobe. But for him to touch on what those allegations, which were false, the girl didn't even come forward. I thought she was out of bounds with that. I just think that again, look, you got these social media trolls out here. I mean, please explain to me, Lauren, how in the hell Gayle King versus Snoop is the 21st century of the East Coast, West

Coast rap battle. It's like Tupac and Biggie. I mean, this is and people are like, which side are you on? I'm like, yo, shut the... I'm telling y'all, y'all, they're going to make me cuss at this event. I'm just, I don't know, it's just, it's like, it's just stupid. I'll try to explain it to you, Roland. I think part of the issue here is that there's a longer history here that I think Snoop and 50 Cent

and a lot of these guys have been paying attention to longer than maybe any of us, which is that if you look at the reporting specifically on CBS and specifically by Gayle King and Oprah, you see that they covered Bill Cosby and R. Kelly and Michael Jackson and then Russell Simmons and then Justin Fairfax and then Kobe Bryant. They covered them in a certain way that I don't think we saw coverage of with regard to, frankly, with regard to white males accused of sexual assault. And we're in kind of this moment where allegations are conviction with sexual assault. So if somebody says something, the person's life is just blown up, whether you know the details of the story or not.

And I think that the CBS morning show can't be confused with 60 Minutes. I mean, they don't really, are not investigating on the same level as a Frontline or a 60 Minutes show. So when they put people on and the thing blows up and that person's reputation is blown up, that person is, of course, paying a huge price. And I think the fact that Gayle, of course, is best friends with Oprah Winfrey, who unfortunately, before she turned 15,

she was raped when she was nine years old, and then 14, which is incredibly tragic. I think the fact that she has that connection with Oprah and when these things happen, they tend to get involved in it. Like, I remember when the Michael Jackson documentary came up, it was Surviving or Leaving Neverland. Yeah. They did, like, a week on that.

They had the Jackson family, and then they had the guy that did the documentary, and they had, you know, they had and they had step after step, detail after detail. Did the same thing with R. Kelly. They had R. Kelly's accusers and then they had another accuser. It was like the level of attention and reporting that went into that

is not the same that we saw on a lot of these stories involving white males who have been accused. Harvey Weinstein. Right. When people make that, Harvey Weinstein and many more, when people make that... Harvey Weinstein. Right. When people make that... Harvey Weinstein and many more. When people make that point, they're making a really good point. And when you have these positions in journalism that are so important and so rare for African

Americans that Gayle King has, she has to be thinking about how the community is represented. I know that's an extra burden on black journalists that perhaps shouldn't be there, but she's got to be thinking about how she uses her stage. And frankly, I think the most underrepresented, the most underrepresented group on TV to me is black men. We have a lot of black women out there talking a lot more than we did. I am perfectly fine with all of that.

Yeah, and? I'm perfectly fine with all of that. But this thing has not, this thing has literally gone so crazy. It's gone crazy It's gone crazy because I think the perspective that Snoop has, even though I didn't agree with what he called Gayle, but the

perspective that 50 Cent and Snoop has is not represented on TV. I mean, I'm not expecting a major news outlet to go to a bar and pick a guy up, but we see the PhDs and we see the, you know, club bourgeois on there all the time, the overeducated, the top 10%. We don't see the average black male on TV represented very much, their views.

I got you. I think that's what we're seeing. But here's also, but let me caution all these brothers out here who want to get high and mighty. Their treatment of black women may also become under the microscope. Well, it has become under the microscope with Gayle and Oprah around. It's been under the microscope the whole time. No, no, no. What I'm saying is that if this thing is going to escalate into a black man versus black women,

you're trying to take somebody down, I'm simply saying I think some people have gotten to the point that they're so irrational in their response that it's gotten way overheated. At the end of the day, I'm like, y'all, seriously? It's going to school. Well, I think one of the things. All right, folks. Sorry. Real quick, go ahead.

I think one of the reasons why this has really hit some notes for people emotionally is not only because of the tragic death. It's also a couple of other things. Number one, you know, he has, his charges were dismissed. Right. Dismissed. Dismissed. She didn't show up.

Dismissed. She didn't show up. So the way that this has been contextualized, not just her, but you had this Washington Post reporter come out. He's a rapist. You have the granddaughter, I believe, of Disney. He's a rapist. And then to have Gayle sort of pile on, that was an extra sort of jab. And the fact that, you know, these people who supposedly care about women so much feel completely free to sully the name of someone who has a surviving wife, who has surviving three

daughters, who are still grieving deep in their grief, to have to have the name of their loved one dragged through the mud over and over and over again by people who didn't know him, even when the charges were dismissed as if he was a convicted rapist is wrong. I don't care how you slice it. And then to have Oprah Winfrey go on The View and cry about her friend. Listen, Gail is not the victim here. She is not the victim. Actually, she won't on today's show.

But bottom line is this here. Again, this whole deal of this is not an East Coast, West Coast battle. All is picking sides. I'm Team Gail. I'm Team Gale. I'm Team Snoop. I'm seeing y'all. Seriously? But it's deep.

Chill the hell out. It's deep because it's been going on a while. Hold on. It's been going on a while. I got it. But I also got to talk about this here. You got some drama down at Jackson State University. Oh, my God.

The president today resigned. He resigned. Oh, he's an Omega? Yeah. He president today resigned. He resigned. Oh, he's an Omega? Yeah. He was two out. He was way two out. So those of y'all who don't know the story, Dr. William Bynum, Jr., the president of Jackson State University,

has resigned after he was arrested over the weekend in a prostitution sting at a Jackson, Mississippi hotel. He was among 17 people arrested in the two-day prostitution sting at a hotel in Clinton, Mississippi. Biden posted a $3,000 bond over the weekend. He resigned today. He's going to be immediately. He was named president of Jackson State in 2007.

And I'm going to go ahead and since you say he's an omega, I've got to read this for you. For you, Derek, let me find it right here. This is what I pulled up earlier. The bio is probably down from the website, but it was up earlier. This was the last line, Derek, in his bio. Bynum's personal and professional motto is look back and thank God, look forward and trust God, look around and serve God, look within and find God.

Okay. Wow. I mean, he sounds like he's a godly man. Unfortunately, bro just got caught out there today, and it's a sad situation for him and for Jackson State, unfortunately. And this, of course, I got to send a story, Lauren. Also, the

athletic director at Morehouse got robbed when he called a woman on Craig's list. I'm like, look, guys, look, when you are a public official, in the case of Jackson State, it is a public university. Bottom line is, look, and hold on, not only that. You can't do it.

There's a sister who is over, wait a minute, there's a sister who is over at the art gallery at Jackson State who was also arrested in this prostitution sting. Yeah, I mean, there's not a whole lot you can say about that other than the people, like you just said, if you're in, obviously, a high-profile office, you have to be very careful. It's just, I mean, without knowing the facts of these situations, it doesn't sound too good. And there's cameras everywhere now. Yeah, exactly right.

There's cameras everywhere. It's not that hard out there. Match.com, hello, something, 23 and, what is that? That's a DNA thing. You figured something. Some other alternative. Hey, y'all. I don't know, but more power to your frat brother, Derek. More rollerblading on the filter when we come back. Things are all connected, but that's the point. Seeing criminal in China for drugs, by the way, means that's serious. All right, guys,

that's the, that's the, okay, all right, so first of all, so we blew the promo there, so let me go to the panel and deal with this here. Donald Trump has been running around talking about of course this whole issue of criminal justice reform. Huh. But here's what he said today about drug dealers and how he praised China.

Saying criminal in China for drugs, by the way, means that's serious. They're getting a maximum penalty. And you know what the maximum penalty is in China for that. And it goes very quickly. It's interesting. We have Singapore. They have very little drug problem. We have China. They China, the country that has the highest maximum penalty is in China for that. And it goes very quickly. It's interesting, we have Singapore, they have very little drug problem. We have China, they have very

little drug problem. States with a very powerful death penalty on drug dealers don't have a drug problem. I don't know that our country is ready for that. But if you look throughout the world, the countries with a powerful death penalty death penalty with a fair but quick trial

they have very little if any drug problem that includes china well derek i guess somebody's a fraud when it comes to criminal justice reform who wants to give a death penalty to the drug dealers. Well, let's take a step back. Are you referencing the FIRST STEP Act, which is a piece of legislation that just passed last year that was bipartisan? I'm referencing Mr. Criminal Justice Reform, the man who ran a Super Bowl ad

about how he freed Alice Marie Johnson, how he's talked about individuals who have been arrested for dealing drugs. But now he's all, man, look at these other countries. He's basically saying, man, I sure wish we could be like the folks in the Philippines or like China and give a death penalty to people who sell drugs. Well, you know, I can't speak for that man. He has no filter.

And so sometimes he puts his foot in the mouth more times than not. And so I can't side with him on what he was talking about just now, talking about a death penalty for drug dealers. I mean... No, no, no, I don't know. Derek, Derek, Derek, I don't expect you to side with him. I'm saying that this simply shows how he's a fraud when it comes to criminal justice reform,

and he is not serious about it, and this is truly who he is. I wouldn't say he's a fraud. I mean, he did, they did put forth the initiative. He's a fraud. To pass, you know, the First Step Act, which was the first overhaul of the criminal justice system since 1994. The largest overhaul since 1994.

It was the largest overhaul since 1994. No, he is a fraud. Avis, he does not truly believe in the criminal justice system. He got the law passed, and it was bipartisan. All that was, Jared Kushner led that. It was also Democrats, Congressman Hakeem Jeffries in the House, and Democrats in the Senate who said make it a real criminal justice reform bill because it was going to be a very limited bill, the one that came out of the House.

But that comment there, that's real Donald Trump. Not the rest of this crap, he says. The bill was passed. I mean, here's the thing. Everybody knows that he's clueless when it comes to policy. So he's just kind of sitting there on Twitter and Fox News all day long, and when something gets to his desk and he thinks that it could be politically advantageous to him, he'll sign it no matter what it is.

He don't give a damn about that. You know, what you are seeing right now is the fact, though, that he does seem to have a love affair with very totalitarian and violent actions perpetrated by the state. And that is by the state and other countries as well as by this state. You know, when he... You remember when he was talking to policemen

and he was like, don't be careful with them. You know, bang them up a little bit. You know, he likes... you remember when he was talking to policemen and he was like, don't be careful with them. You know, bang them up a little bit. You know, he likes, he's a violent person. And I'm not saying this lightly. Let's just think about this. We have a totalitarian in the White House at this moment. Given what just happened with not only the impeachment and the message that that sent that he can break the law and there will be no repercussions, but also what he did after the impeachment in terms of firing not only people that testified,

but the twin brother of someone that testified that had absolutely nothing to do with it. These are actions of a totalitarian, and if he's doing that now, just imagine what he would do on a second term when there is no limits to his brutality that could not only be legislative, but also physical in nature. Physical? Yes. Bottom line, Lauren, he is a fraud when it comes to

criminal justice reform. He is trying to pimp folks that all of a sudden he cares about people who are in prison for selling drugs. That's what this is. What you heard in that clip was the real Donald Trump. Yeah. I mean, he says he's extremely situational, so, of course, he'll say one thing one day and another thing the next day. To me, it's completely meaningless because I don't think he knows what he's talking about when it comes to any statistics or any reference, uh,

to any other countries, you know, anything. I mean, Donald Trump is a extremely situational, dumb person who will just say anything. So it, Donald Trump is an extremely situational, dumb person who will just say anything. So it really doesn't matter what he says. I mean, he's just... We play this game of trying to analyze what Donald Trump says, but none of it makes any sense. He'll say whatever he has to say

to win the advantage in any moment, and that's just how it is. He's consistent with this leaning. And that's why I tweeted. I said, I would love to see what Alice Marie Johnson has to say. The woman, of course, who was freed for drug charges. The woman who was freed from prison, of course,

in a Super Bowl commercial. I wonder what she has to say about what he had to say today. Hmm. I wonder. All right, y'all. I've got to go to a break. We come back. We'll talk with Susan Taylor and Robert Smith from the National Cares Mentoring Gala here in New York City And also last night was the Oscar big night for Matthew Cherry and the makers of the short animated film hair love

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and my Black History moment goes out to my mother. I know that sounds kind of cheesy that your mom is your hero, but she really is my shero. Not only was she Miss Black Marilyn twice over, but she has also been an integral part in a lot of the ways that we see cable television, how cable television is in areas that normally wouldn't necessarily be. And in the early 2000s, she was the first keynote speaker for Equal Pay Day under President Bill Clinton's administration. And one of the things that spoke out to me about this is that in her speech,

she was so grateful for the opportunity to be in the Rose Garden and talk about it. But specifically, she said, I hope that I can serve as an example to women across the country who work hard to build their professional career, but still do not receive salaries equal to their male counterparts. That was in May 11, 2000, and considering that it is almost 20 years later and we are still fighting this fight, I commend my mom for basically being the champion that she was 20 years ago and that

I'm following in her footsteps to make sure that happens. We are here. In this new decade, the beginning of a new era. Launching a new network. We are building what has never been built. Brick by brick, the first black 24-hour news network is here. We are not just new. We are now. We are the Black News Channel.

All right, folks, today at 6 a.m., the Black News Channel launched in some 33 million homes, co-founded by J.C. Watts. Their goal, of course, is to have a 24-hour cable news channel. Derek, I want to go to you. You've worked in black media doing sales. How tough of a role do you think they have in this environment where, look, you've got eight black cable and broadcast networks, all of them entertainment-focused,

and you're talking about a black news network 24 hours? I think it's very necessary to have it, right? But, Roland, as you know, it's going to come down to advertising. And if they can't get the support, then the show's not going to be there. The network's not going to be there. And hopefully they can draw on enough ratings to generate revenue. Otherwise, it won't work. Avis, your thoughts about it as well.

I mean, obviously, when you talk about a competitive landscape, we're also living in a world where cord cutting is real, where you used to have ESPN in more than 100 homes. They're now in some 88 million homes. Those numbers are dropping because people are saying cable is too high. So to launch a cable network in this environment is also a difficult proposition. Yeah, that's my biggest concern about it, and I wish them well. I agree that we need this, and I'm glad to see that it's there, even though the Jacksonville Jaguars owner has the majority stakes, but it is black represented in terms of the ownership. I will say this, though.

We do know in terms of viewer habits, we are undergoing a shift right now. And just as more and more people are watching their content online, and as you mentioned, cutting the cable, it's just unfortunate that they're starting there. And it reminds me of the fact that when black people started really buying up radio stations, that was when we were making the shift technologically in terms of consumption of information to television. So, you know, it is to cable specifically. So it's just unfortunate. It seems that just when we are finally able to break into a space like this is at the moment when in essence it's declining in value.

Right now, the future belongs to the digital side and not necessarily to the cable side of the equation. And I would agree with Dr. Avis, Roland. I just think right now that they are a little late to the table. And I just think a news channel right now, because audiences are so fragmented right now with digital right now, I just think it'll be very difficult for them to get this thing off the ground. Especially, I know the Jaguars owner is the majority owner in the whole organization.

However, that's not going to generate the revenue. That's not going to generate the advertising. And so I just think, again, it's going to be very difficult to get it off the ground. Gotcha. All right, then. Avis and Derek and Lauren, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. All right, folks, we're here in New York City

for Susan Taylor's National Care Mentoring Gala. Of course, where it is for the love of children. That's what they're raising the dollars for. Tonight they're honoring billionaire Robert Smith. I'm going to chat with them in just a second. Joining me right now, of course, Hall of Famer, good friend of Robert Smith, Dave Winfield. Dave, how you doing?

I'm a good friend of Roland Martin. Good to see you. But Robert as well. Man, you you doing? I'm a good friend of Roland Martin. Good to see you, but Robert as well. Man, you know, we got the chance to come here. Ray McGuire invited him, sitting at his table, another prominent businessman in New York. So my wife and I were coming out here. Susan, I've known for a generation.

She's always been great, gracious, giving back, a leader. And so I'm just glad to be here. Well, man, we're also glad to see a leader. And so I'm just glad to be here. Well, man, we're also glad to see you here. And then the superstars are coming up right behind you as well, Robert and Susan. So, man, I appreciate it. Thank you so very much.

I'm going to pull them in. Dave, always good seeing you. Slide right here. You stand right here. I'm going to pull it out. Robert, step on in here. All right. Of course, with Susan Taylor, she's the founder.

It's been, so what, you started this, what was it, 11 years ago? Oh, actually, 14. Because it was under Essence, and then there you go. Right. It was after Katrina. We said we had to do more at the Essence Festival for the children who were really left homeless and hungry and lonely and depressed. And so that gave birth to Essence Cares,

which has grown into the National Cares Mentoring Movement. And of course, you've now had to move it to this place. You've grown from when the gala first started. That's true. We've outgrown every space. This is the largest indoor ballroom in New York City. So here we are. We better fill it tonight. I know that. And of course, the honoree tonight, this man standing right here, Robert Smith.

Brother Martin, so good to see you. So glad you're here. Happy to see you, my brother. You know, I had to be here. I always got to support Susan. And, of course, this is how she guarantees you come here. So last year, when the game was over, she's like, okay, today is February 10th, so put in your calendar right now and block the date off. So I couldn't say no, you know, already.

Understood. And she has persisted, but her persistence is driven by love, and that's the point of it. And that's why I really love being around her and being a part of all that she does. She takes a holistic approach to how we heal our community, one person at a time, you know, one child at a time, and I think that's really why we're here.

And obviously a lot of people really don't understand how great the need is when you talk about mentors, because you're now in what, 58 cities? 58 cities, Roland, that's right. I mean, and this is not what I ever thought I would be doing after 37 years at Essence. I thought I'd be teaching journalism, you know, newspaper-making, magazine-making,

well, you know, digital world, I'm not as familiar with, but really helping our young ones with literacy and understanding journalism at black colleges, my own program that would travel. But the village is on fire. I had no idea that the crisis among our young is as deep as it is. You know, writing about it, sending journalists to report on it, and really waking up and going into schools where kids literally are coming to school hungry and high and having slept in cars and shelters. We're going to do better than this.

I don't have any depression around it. I have confidence around it. Robert, there are a lot of us, obviously, who grew up with parents who understand that those are the original role models, but the reality is not everybody has a stable home with a mother and a father raising them. Correct. I think the important part is we have to realize it's a community that's important. I just remember growing up how everyone I met and I knew and got introduced to

was framed regarding their role in the community. If they were part of the Boy Scouts, if they actually were part of Head Start in our neighborhood, that's how my parents introduced them. And so I realized it was important to be part of the community. Not everybody had two parents in their home. Not every parent got to come home and take care of the kids, but people in the community made sure they had a place to come after school,

made sure that they studied, made sure they worked with each other. And I just remember that as being a fabric of how I grew up. So as Susan started talking about the ways we need to really heal our community, those are the things I thought about, and how do we ensure that that happens in every community that we touch. So I'm just happy to be a part and do my part wherever I can. Susan is not just the young folks with mentors. You also have this parents' university.

I played in a golf tournament that was in Atlanta. We raised money for that. And that's something that people don't think about. There are parents who were not raised to understand how to raise a kid. They need help. They need to be educated in doing so. And, you know, truly, I mean, when you said yes to that, you changed their life. And people don't understand that there are parents.

None of us really knew how to raise a child. Now I know how to be a mother. Now that I'm a grandmother and I'm really practicing, you know, royally, I think I'm doing a good job. But what I'm so proud of is that the Solicitors General, right, from DeKalb and also one of the other counties in Georgia, they are referring their clients to us rather than incarcerating them. You know, people who've created low-level crimes. But now, first of all, we had a hard time recruiting parents at the University for Parents. Now they don't want to leave.

It's called graduation. Y'all got to go. You got to go. We have more people who need to take these seats, but it's really working beautifully. And thank you for your support. Always, always. Last question for you, Robert. So it was always interesting.

I do panels all the time, people on social media, and they always talk about, man, if our celebrities and entertainers and sports people just give, give, give. But I use Bernie Sanders as an example. This is somebody who's running whose average donation is $19. If you look at St. Jude, I'm one of their national ambassadors. They raise $800. They have to raise $800 million a year, but the average gift is around $20.

And so what do you say to the person who's saying, oh, he's got enough, without realizing that, no, no, no, your 5, your 10, your 20 actually also makes a difference in a kid's life. It all matters. I saw my mother write a $25 check to the United Negro College Fund every month as I grew up, and she did it for over 50 years. She realized, and even though I had some wants in my life, she said we have some needs in our community. She tithed to UNCF. No question about it. And, life, she said, we have some needs in our community.

She tithed to UNCF. No question about it. And look, she was a schoolteacher. My parents were schoolteachers. We didn't have a lot of money. And frankly, my brothers handed me down until I was 14 years old watching her write those checks. But she told me how important it was to be a part of your community and give to your community in ways that mattered. And in her mind, education, which I believe as well, is one of the principal ways that we have to do it.

So $5 matters, $25, $35 million. I mean, whatever it takes to actually help and uplift our community is what each of us should do. Everybody's got to do their part. All right, Susan, before we go, you make your money appeal. My money appeal? Right. You got to raise the money.

My appeal is for your heart first. Because if you open your heart to children whom society has written off, you will help us write them in with a check. There you go. And we also auction this suit. We can raise some money too. And so I appreciate it, Susan. Robert, thanks so much, Fred. I appreciate it, baby. I appreciate it. All right, folks, that is it for us here at the National Charisman Ring Gala here in New York City. Thank you so very much. We're going to end the show this way.

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