#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 3.18 RMU: #Coronavirus crisis; unemployment on the rise; lot of kids don't have Internet

Episode Date: March 19, 2020

3.18.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: COVID-19 crisis continues; Trump's coronavirus response deconstructed; Unemployment spikes as a result of the virus; Parents struggle with home schooling children amid outbreak because a lot of kids don't have access to the Internet ; What role will the military play in quelling the pandemic; Biden sweeps Super Tuesday III; #WeTriedToTellYa: Fox News changes tone, now takes virus seriously + A crazy a$$ kid gets schooled. #RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Martin! Thank you. Today is Wednesday, March 18, 2020. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, coronavirus still dominating the coverage stock market, drops in a huge way. Donald Trump announces the Department of Defense and the Veterans Department, all their assets, still dominating the coverage stock market drops in a huge way don trump analysis department of defense and the veterans department all their assets are going to be used to to affect uh the what is happening unemployment claims blowing up all across the country also parents are struggling trying to figure out how do you deal with the issue of homeschooling their children? And it's also showing a dramatic gap between what some kids have at home.

In fact, in Dallas, 40% of the school kids in Dallas do not have Internet at home. Yeah, that's real. We'll talk to Steve Perry about that. And also, y'all know we have a crazy-ass white people segment. Watch some of the crazy-ass white boy go call a black woman the N-word. All she said was three words to her daughter. Get on this.

Daughter proceeded to whoop that white boy's ass. Wait till y'all see that video. It's time to bring the funk and roll it right on the filter. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the piss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine. Let's rolling. It's Uncle Roro, y'all. It's Rolling Martin, yeah. Rolling with rolling now.

He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best. You know he's Rolling Martin now. All right, folks, 7,048. That's the number of coronavirus cases in the United States in every state, including Washington, D.C., and three U.S. territories. At least 116 patients with the virus have died. Now, Donald Trump continues to give updates on what is going on, primarily because he's been screwing this thing up from the get-go. Here's what he had to say today.

To begin by announcing some important developments in our war against the Chinese virus, we'll be invoking the Defense Production Act just in case we need it. In other words, I think you all know what it is, and it can do a lot of good things if we need it. And we will have it all completed, signing it in just a little while, right after I'm finished with this conference. I'll be signing it. It's prepared to go. So we will be invoking the Defense Production

Act. All right. So you heard him call this the Chinese virus. He was actually asked a question by Cynthia Vega of ABC News regarding that. And so here's what she had to say. Go to my iPad, please. You keep calling this the Chinese virus. There are reports of dozens of incidents of bias against Chinese Americans in this country. Your own aide, Secretary Azar, says he does not use this term. He says ethnicity does not cause the virus. Why do you keep using this? Because it comes from China. A lot of people say it's racist.

It's not racist at all, no, not at all. It comes from China. That's why. It comes from China. I want to be accurate. Yeah, no, not at all. It comes from China. That's why. It comes from China. I want to be accurate. The Press Do you know anything serious about Chinese-Americans in this country? Is there an ace behind you? Are you comfortable with this term? The President I have great love for all of the people from our country.

But as you know, China tried to say at one point – maybe they stopped now – that it was caused by American soldiers that can't happen it's not gonna happen not as long as I'm president it comes from China keep calling this the Chinese virus there not only that the White House they've actually doubled down on this as well and I'm gonna pull this up in just one second I was on shortly a little ago, and they even decided to drop a video that they put together calling this the Chinese virus. And so this has infuriated lots of people on this. I'm going to try to find that video for y'all in a second.

But again, it's bothering lots of different people. We'll talk about this a second with our panel. But not only that, again, what you're seeing now, you're seeing now this White House now try to be a hell of a lot more serious when it comes to targeting what's going on. And so Trump has even put this video out, they're trying to use the White House official account to try to drum up interest and support,

putting out a variety of people, including his Surgeon General, Dr. Jerome Adams. Here's that video. As the nation's doctor, I often get asked, what should I do if I think I might have coronavirus? Well, it's important to know the symptoms. They include fever, cough, and shortness of breath. If you're having these symptoms or

worry that you may have coronavirus, please call your health care provider. We don't want you to go into the ER or the doctor's office without talking to them first because you might spread coronavirus to someone else. They'll help you think through and learn how to react, including figuring out where to go get tested if necessary. As the nation's doctor, I often get asked... Part of the problem there is the question of where do you go get testing? That was one of the issues that we saw even come up today where in the news conference they were asked that question about testing. And that's still one of the fundamental problems that this administration has

is that they have not been able to roll out the appropriate number of tests in order for people to actually get tested. So they stand there, they say, well, this is what's happening, and of course, all of these different things are going on, but the problem still comes up, do you have the level of testing that is necessary in this country?

Unfortunately, that is not the case. As I said today, they stood before the cameras and held that briefing. I want to see if we could, guys, if you can go to some of that. So go ahead and go to my iPad. All right, so we're sitting here. Let's see if we can pull it up here. So we're trying to do their broadcast. But it has been very interesting in terms of how you've seen this response take place. We're going to have it for a second. Some more of that news conference today from the White House as they're trying to get a handle on it. The Secretary of Defense spoke.

The head of Veteran Affairs spoke, was interesting about that. Isn't it amazing how they're now coming before the cameras one day after the New York Times writes a story saying that, oh, they've been missing in action. This is a guy who only follows media pressure. That's exactly what happens. All kinds of people are trying to send warning signs. Here was a video, a TikTok video, some healthcare workers put out trying to get people to understand what's happening with the coronavirus. But if the world was ending, you'd come over, right? You'd come over and you'd stay the night. Would you love me for the hell of it? All our fears would be irrelevant. If the world was ending, you'd come over, right? The sky'd be falling and I'd hold you tight. All right, folks.

And so many people are getting in on this whole deal. Even my man, Uncle Luke, said enough is enough. Damn it. Test everybody in America. Message to the United States government. Listen, y'all need to stop this bullshit. It's real simple. give everybody the test if you have it you go into quarantine you get treatment if you don't you go about the rest of your life if you do not test

people what's going to end up happening is you won't know who have it you got people that got it i'm looking at a video every day of the man in Miami, and I know him personally, and he's sitting on there saying he has no symptoms. So you're asking people to go get tested who have symptoms. What about the people who don't have symptoms, who are walking around, don't even know they have it, and they got it, and they're infecting other people

just fucking test everybody trump and the rest of you fucking idiots if you got it you go in quarantine and you get treatment if you don't sound kind of basic to me uh again here's the news conference took place at the white house uh where donald trump was trying hopefully trying to get people to calm down. It was amazing every time he talked, stock market keeps going down. So roll some of that news conference. Alabama last year, also a tornado. And then obviously the numerous hurricanes in different locations that were in some cases very devastating. And in every case, FEMA came through. This is a very different kind of work for FEMA, but they will come through, as they always do.

We have tremendous people, tremendous talent in FEMA. We're sending, upon request, the two hospital ships. They're being prepared right now. They're massive ships. They're the big white ships with the Red Cross on the sides. One is called the Mercy and the other is called

the Comfort. And they are in tip-top shape. They soon will be. They're getting ready to come up to New York. I spoke with Governor Cuomo about it. He's excited about it. And I also, we haven't made the final determination as to where it's going to go on the

West Coast. The Comfort is located now in San Diego, and it's going to be, we'll be picking the destination fairly shortly. So those two ships are being prepared to go, and they can be launched over the next week or so, depending on need. Earlier this week, the first clinical trial of

the vaccine candidate for the virus began in Washington state, as you probably know. The genetic sequence of the virus was first published in January. But thanks to the unprecedented partnership between the FDA, NIH, and the private sector, we've reached human trials for the vaccine just eight weeks later.

That's a record by many, many months. It used to take years to do this, and now we did it just in a very short while. That's the fastest development in history of what we're doing with regard to the vaccine. We're making very, very big progress. Today, I can announce further steps to expand testing capacity.

We're working with several groups to determine if the self-swab, a much easier process than the current process. That's not very nice to do, I can tell you, because I did it. But we have a current process that's a little bit difficult. If you haven't done the groups are working on

determining if a self swab by an individual is as effective as the other. The other is very effective, very accurate. But we're going to see if we can do a self-swab, which would be a lot more popular, I can tell you that. And that would be administered also. Okay, I've never seen Samanda with such limited vocabulary by saying, you know, we've got these big white ships. Here's the problem. One of the ships he's saying that when the Secretary of Defense came up saying we're going to dispatch, it's actually undergoing maintenance right now in Virginia.

Y'all, it can't even go out for weeks. See, here's the deal. And this is the problem when Trump talks. He lies so much that you actually can't believe the lie until you verify what he says, because he'll just make it up. Literally, one of the ships that he's talking about is not going to go out. It's literally right now, y'all, undergoing maintenance in Virginia. And they've sent the order down saying, hey, can we speed this whole thing up?

The other problem that you're dealing with on this whole deal is when you talk about how they are botching everything. Okay, the New York Times yesterday dropped a story talking about the reason why all of a sudden they are taking this thing so seriously. And that is because of a particular report that was issued showing the severity of this problem. Now, what's also crazy here is that, you know, what you're dealing with is that that story said that Veterans Affairs, which actually is the backup, the backup health system in case the health system crashes, they hadn't even received any orders. The military and Department of Defense hadn't received any orders. When they dispatched some of the federal government masks, they were already

expired. Okay, I'm sorry. Who doesn't check the date of the mask before you issue them? This is what you're seeing, people just bungling in operation. And the reason this thing is significant, again, why this matters, we played for you the video of those healthcare workers who were saying, we can't go home. We're trying to protect y'all as well. But here's the other deal. Yesterday, Donald Trump lied again. He said, I've always seen this as a pandemic.

This, y'all, is a video posted by Senator Kamala Harris on February 12th, 2020. Let me say this again. This is not a video she posted today trying to slam them. This is a video of a hearing of the Department of Homeland Security that she posted on February 12th. Play it. The American people also, Mr. Chairman,

need to hear from the officials who are currently responsible for addressing this. And we need a public hearing with current government officials as soon as possible. It is critical to my state of California. I have spoken with some of the current officials and asked them why they are not here today. And they did not have a good response for why they are not. In fact, they went on to say, well, we have to take time to prepare talking points.

The American people deserve them to be here this morning. Did y'all just hear that? Okay, y'all probably missed that. I want you to play that again. The American people also, Mr. Chairman, need to hear from the officials who are currently responsible for addressing this. And we need a public hearing with current government officials as soon as possible. It is critical to my state of California. I have spoken with some of the current officials and asked them why they are not here today. And they did not have a good response for why they are not. In fact, they went on to say, well, we have to take time to prepare talking points.

The American people deserve them to be here this morning. But he's been on top of this whole deal. If you want to see how also this is just a complete shit show and how Donald Trump literally cannot properly educate Americans, this is today's news conference when he hands the baton to Vice President Mike Pence. I want you to listen to what Mike Pence says in the first 60 seconds. It is as if Trump doesn't have the capacity to read this information himself.

Listen. Thank you, Mr. President. The White House Coronavirus Task Force met this morning, and now that we have cases in all 50 states, the president's call to bring the full resources of the federal government, the full partnership with every state and territory, the full power of the American economy to support businesses and families. As the president says to us and every day, we'll do whatever it

takes. We're all in this together. Yesterday the president met with the tourism industry executives and also the president's administration. We're all in this together. We're all in it takes. We're all in this together. Yesterday, the President met with the tourism industry executives and also had an engaging discussion with all the top companies in our industrial and medical supply chain.

The President, as you all are aware, also announced today that by mutual consent, the northern border to Canada will be closed to non-essential travel. This does not include essential travel or the transit of goods, but it was through mutual discussion that took place this morning between the President and Prime Minister Trudeau, and the Department of Homeland Security will be effectuating that decision. The President spoke with some of the nation's top business leaders today, again, to speak about the supply chain in the country. And for our part, we're going to be conducting a conference call later today with state and local health officials to renew our

ongoing commitment of cooperation and collaboration. As the president said last week in signing the Stafford Act, he stood up the National Response Coordination Center. And today at the president's direction, FEMA has gone to level one. Can you explain, can y'all just explain to me, I just want to know, can y'all explain to me what is the purpose of Pence coming up saying, the president said this, the president met with, the president met with. He's standing right there. Does he not have the capacity to actually tell us that himself?

My panel right now is Scott Bolden, a lawyer here in D.C., Eugene Craig, Eugene Craig Organization. I'm more than a lawyer. I don't. Would you use my title? What the hell is your title? I'm former chair of the NBA Political Action Committee. I'm a former state

chair of the D.C. Democratic Party. Thank you. That's a whole bunch of formers. So, Eugene, I don't understand. Okay, that's cute. I'll sit you along. Eugene, I don't understand. Literally, dude, you're standing right there.

Yeah. I mean, the thing is this. What this shows is that Trump is inept, right? And it shows that, you know, to some degree, it's painful. I just want to say thank God we have Mike Pence there, somebody that kind of understands government and how government is supposed to work. Because what we see there is that Donald Trump is inept. He has no understanding how government is supposed to work.

He has no understanding how the full force of a federal government supposed to respond to a pandemic or any type of actual emergency or disaster. I mean, there should have been testing taking place a month ago. I mean, we could have used the World Health Organization's test. He should have been helped coordinate

all the state's national guards to help facilitate these tests. I mean, the Army Corps of Engineers should have been building, you know, makeshift hospitals across the country. I mean, you know, and other situations, national disasters and pandemics, one of the things that would have been mobilized were cruise ships that act as floating hospitals. So you're not just worried about, so you're not just relying on the U.S. as comfort and the other one I just don't it's just illogical to watch this every day well to watch what goes on and to have someone who is supposed

to be the person who is the most reassuring we're on top of this thing got that doing and then then he comes out and sounds halfway intelligent and the media is like, oh my God. Dana Bash on CNN, oh my God. And it's kind of like, you know that's not going to last. And then this morning at 9 a.m.

he's trashing and then he literally says in the news conference, Sleepy Joe Biden. I mean, it's like, what the... Go ahead. He's the only program. It doesn't bother me that the vice president said what the president did. It's a bit odd, but who knows? I'm more concerned about the fact that we're way behind one, two, this is not something you can catch up with right away. Look at Italy. Thirdly, 425 deaths overnight.

Exactly, and they're on total lockdown. But here's the other thing. The water's clear. That we're not prepared to get prepared in an efficient manner as well. So, for example, you have the Health and Human Services leading this kind of pandemic response. Well, wait a minute now Where is the FEMA if you will because under FEMA with natural disasters in the US They run and call the shots and they have access to every government entity. Well

again, you first finally Finally, okay FEMA's brought in and again, I'm just on the team. They're not running. No, no, FEMA's brought in, and again, I'm a— They're just on the team. They're not running. No, no, no, that's what I'm saying. Okay. Because how he views FEMA's role is just, okay, y'all do a little stuff over here. Now, again, when you have no understanding of the federal apparatus— And you won't listen. When you won't—then the excuse is, well, we've never seen this before.

Okay, but there's a reason you have a federal apparatus as a reason why you have procedures in place well you have people in place no you have none of this and so the problem is still I was watching a bill a bill Ackerman on CNBC he he said but he's but but no but he's right the real did I said the other day Americans are freaking the hell out because they can't handle, if you say, shelter for 30 days. He said, you're going to have to

shut the nation down for 30 days, do massive, widespread testing so you have an understanding of where we're going. And what the real numbers are. But when your whole modus operandi is

I don't want big numbers because you're afraid of repercussions. So Ackerman's whole deal is you can't do this piecemeal. It's coming anyway. This whole 15-day thing, look, I'm telling you. Initially it was okay, governors, then it was like

okay, don't congregate with a thousand people. Then it was like 500. Then it was, OK, governors. Then it was like, OK, don't congregate with a thousand people. Then it was like 500. Then it was 250. Then it was 50. It was 50 on Sunday. Then on Monday morning, they said it was 10. Now you have Governor Cuomo of New York who has ordered businesses to be at no more than 50 percent of employee capacity. Yeah, yeah. had no more than 50% of employee capacity. So what's happened, because Obama,

you cannot get control of something as long as you have dumbasses on spring break in Miami, thousands on the beach, whatever. No, you're literally gonna have to say, shut it all down, test, massive testing, massive assessment, and the testing can't just be, like the Surgeon General. If you're showing symptoms, go to your doctor.

Okay, so then explain to me now, but explain to me... So what? But explain to me the NBA players who have tested positive coronavirus who don't have symptoms. They found 60 tests somewhere. But the thing is...

There's one other agency that I want you to talk about or I think we should talk about because because they've been completely absent, too. They built bridges. They built hospitals all around the world, right? The Army Corps of Engineers are capable of addressing this. Okay, but he mentioned it today, only, Eugene, because it was Governor Andrew Cuomo two days ago. One more time, somebody that understands the government. Give me the damn Army Corps of Engineers.

And who has called out his own National Guard. Right, but that's why. Listen, what you're seeing right now is actually the beauty of the American system, right? The federalism of the American system. Where we have a breakdown in the federal government, you have governors who are, you know, the main over their states stepping up. You know, you have Governor Hogan stepping up. You have Cuomo stepping up. You have Whitmer stepping up. You know, even DeSantis down in Florida is doing his best to try to control this. And he's attacking them. He attacked the governor of Michigan. And the thing is this, you know, we have somebody that's inept that does not understand government inside the White House.

I mean, the best thing Team Trump could do right now, I'll be honest with you, is either to put this thing completely in the hands of Vice President Pence or bring in somebody like Barack Obama to actually handle the situation. Because the thing is right now, you can't worry about markets, you've got to worry about human life. And right now, he's worried about markets. You need leadership on the ground. For example, a guy like General O'Reilly, who dealt with New Orleans when the floods hit and curbed. With real leadership and a team

that believes in him and has one goal and objective. Get it done. Save people, rebuild, what have you. That type of leadership has been lacking so far in this pandemic. No one has not this person. I mean, listen, listen, listen.

Real quick, real quick, real quick. If FEMA falls on the DHS, you have an entire hierarchy over a DHS that's obliterated. You have no secretary, no confirmed secretary, no confirmed deputy secretary. They tried to throw Cuccinelli in there. The court just said he was illegally appointed. But FEMA is the main agency anyway. But here's the piece, though. But again, though, what you have, though,

you have so much focus, unfortunately, on what's happening with the stock market. That, to me, is an issue. Bill Spriggs, of course, is AFL-CIO economist, formerly head of the economics department at Howard University. Bill, this is the problem that I have here with this whole deal. The coronavirus, the whole focus has been driven largely by stock market. It hasn't really been a health issue. Now, all of a sudden, we're seeing the economic ramifications, stock market going down. We wiped out all of the stock market gains since Trump has been president. We're now at the levels when Obama left the White House. We're now seeing unemployment numbers, claims blowing up all across the country. They're talking about a $1 trillion infusion.

There are others who are saying, no, this thing is so significant. You're going to have to literally, it could be as high as $5, $10, $15, $20, $30 trillion in terms of sending money directly to the United States, excuse me, directly to U.S. citizens. I mean, that's the type of situation that we are in because at the core of this bill, we still don't know how big of a problem this is because we have not had massive widespread testing. Well, we didn't have the testing. So one of the problems is even the steps that have been taken, we don't have a way to evaluate how well they're performing because of that. But this is also an economic issue, and it's an economic issue and a health issue because this is a downturn that's centered around service sector workers. We're shutting down the restaurant

and drink establishments. There are 12 million Americans who are employed in food and drinking establishments. That's the size of our manufacturing workforce. So what we've just done is pretty much equivalent to telling every factory in the United States closed when you think about how many people are involved. But these are low-wage workers. Most of them do not have paid leave. Many of them have no leave at all. They don't get to take sick days. Many of them have earnings that are too low to meet the earnings test to get unemployment from their state. Many of the states have put up very poor systems for people to access unemployment. So we're talking about a real catastrophe from a health and economic perspective. When you look at the frontline workers who are being affected and think about the frontline health workers that you are hearing are catching the

disease because the hospitals and the administrators fought against implementing OSHA regulations that would ensure that workers would have the proper protection. So we're going into this in Washington, D.C. just recently. we had an EMS station where one worker tested positive and now the rest are under quarantine. Well, and again, that's where we're struggling in such a huge way because what people don't understand, when you talk about this whole issue, what people don't have with those resources,

when you listen to the Surgeon General and say, call your doctor, what in the hell do you do with the people who don't have doctors? The number of low-income people who frankly rely on emergency rooms. Then you have an administration that hated the Affordable Care Act, did everything they could do to knock it down. Then you had Republican states, those governors and legislatures, who didn't want to have Medicaid expansion. And so now what we're seeing right now, we're actually seeing our system being stripped, butt naked and exposed for what it is. In a moment, I'm going to talk to Principal Steve Perry and what's happening on the education, because all the people who are saying shut the schools down, homeschool them or you can go online.

But then you got, I mean, South Carolina, they're actually converting 3,000 school buses into mobile Wi-Fi units because guess what? The kids don't have internet. And so you got all these people who are walking around and I keep telling people, stop assuming because you're middle class

and you've got Wi-Fi in your home and you've got cable and you're able to go to Costco because you've got a Costco card, well, guess what? You've got to pay for a damn Costco card. It's a bunch of families who can't even pay for a Costco or a Sam's card. And these people are wondering, like, oh, I don't understand what's going on. And so now you have, Bill, calls from people like Mark Cuban.

I saw Ali Velshi's show who was saying, this is now, when you have a calamity, now you deal with your structural issues of inequality. And so from your vantage point, how do we do that? Because if you're now talking about

dropping one and two and five trillion dollars directly to Americans, how do we now confront what has been a fundamental problem in this country for decades? Well, this is one of the big problems. The Senate just finally, finally, this is Wednesday, they finally signed off on the House bill passed last week to make sure that we would have paid sick days. And this is common sense. The people who are serving you food, they're serving you food

and you don't want them to have a paid sick day. You'd rather have them come to work sick than have them stay home. This is the lunacy. But the Senate and the White House fought against paid sick days for all workers. They limited it so that it's only workers and the White House fought against paid sick days for all workers. They limited it so that it's only workers if your establishment has more than 50 workers

or fewer than 500. So you left out somewhere between 6 and 19 million Americans who are working and still will not have paid sick leave. But here's the thing. It's crazy, Bill. Okay, so you take... I mean, look, I have a small- the deal. It's crazy, Bill. Okay, so you take... I mean, look. I have a small-owned business. That's what this is. I have 12

employees. So the problem is, what you just described, we don't qualify for. And if you look at black-owned businesses, there are 2.6 million black-owned businesses in America. 2.5 million only have one employee.

And then look at those 100,000 that have more than one employee. Most of them don't have, frankly, more than 10 employees. So when you start talking about how this impacts different sectors, I mean, these are people making decisions and you're not dealing with true small businesses in America.

Well, they aren't, except they write out exceptions. Their way of dealing with it is to say, well, we'll exclude you so you won't have to deal with that. But here's the reality. For those small businesses, if you're a restaurant owner and you don't retain your workers and they get let go, when we finally get a hold of the disease, maybe nine months from now, everything we hope will be back to normal if we're doing the right steps now,

where are you going to find your workers? You let them go. The number one thing is to provide paid sick leave to paid leave, leave for these workers so that they stay attached to their employer so that when things resume, the employer isn't going around saying, now I got to recruit a whole new workforce in order to get myself up and running. This is for the business's protection as much as it is for the workers' protection. Is this also time, Bill? Is this also time to also deal with the fact

that you have a lot of these major companies? Again, I'm going to pull an Ali Velshi tweet up in a second where he said, where you have a lot of these CEOs who are making 220 times what an average worker is earning. And everybody, Bill, is lining up for a bailout. Airline industry. Boeing wants a $60 billion bailout when, in fact, Boeing's problem

really had to do with the 737 MAX. And so we know what that game is. Now, hotel industry. I was seeing a story where the hotel union said some 700,000 people who work for hotels could be out of jobs. Marriott instituting massive layoffs. I mean, we can go down the line.

You got Sheldon Adelson, these casinos who want to bail out. I'm sorry, Sheldon Adelson, you're worth $31 billion. Bail your own ass out. Well, this is the thing. I mean, in fairness, it's okay for them to get the bailout as long as, and number one, as long as it's to make sure that the employees stay employed, as long as the workers are getting a paycheck. This is the key issue. So in the airline case in 2001, because of 9-11 and the disruption to air traffic, we bailed out the airlines. What

did they do? Many of them immediately went into bankruptcy, got rid of their union contract, got rid of retirement. Workers got nothing. They didn't look out for the workers of the airline industry. And so the airlines are back again. And now they're asking for another bailout, no strings attached. No, and I'm sorry. I'm sorry, no. This is where you have to have members of Congress with integrity who say this bill is not going to go forward unless you're protecting workers.

If you're Nancy Pelosi, if you're Steny Hoyer, if you're Jim Clyburn, if you're any of them, I don't expect Republicans to do any of this, but somebody has to say, no, no, no, no. We are not like, you know, nope, not going to happen again. We're not going to bail these folks out who, again,

are screwing the American people and what they want to do is tie themselves over and, yeah, bank that money. I'm sorry, that dog ain't going to hunt. Well, it shouldn't. And as you mentioned, retailers now want to bail out. And in fairness, again, in the public interest, we've asked them, please don't open up. Please don't do that. Walmart is the biggest employer in the United States,

well over 500 employees. They're the number one group in front of Congress saying, make sure that the paid sick days do not apply to us. These are billionaires, the richest people on the planet, the Walton family. And they're saying, no, we don't want legislation that gives paid sick leave to everybody. And in fact, they accused Congress and the labor unions, oh, you're just using this emergency to get the paid sick days that you've always been arguing for. But we've been arguing for that because we went through H1N1 flu in 2009. We thought we learned our lesson. We didn't. So here we are again at the last minute trying to hobble together common sense policy approaches. Bill Spriggs, we'll be talking to you a lot more over the next several weeks as we sort of sort this thing out, what is happening economically all across this country. Again, the actions Congress take will go a long way to fixing the system.

And so we'll see what happens. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Let's hope that they do focus on workers because the people who are being hurt are the low-wage workers that normally get ignored by everybody whenever there's economic policy. All right, Bill Spritz, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Folks, education is also a huge issue. You got parents who are now trying to figure out some who are going into work. Now others who are at home, what do you do with your kids? We include schools have shut down. Universities and high schools, middle schools, elementary schools are saying

they're gonna go to distance learning, learning online. But what happens when you're at home and you don't have the internet? Joining us right now is Principal Steve Perry of Capital Prep. Steve, glad to have you here. I was reading this story, Dallas Independent School District,

they were talking about this here. They said 40% of their students, you know, we keep talking about food, which is obviously important, and things along those lines. They said 40% of our students don't have internet. Well, that's interesting because one of the things that's starting to happen is that, first of all, hello, Roland Longtime,

no C. One of the things that's starting to happen throughout the country is some of the large internet providers, at least in the Northeast, I don't know about down south, are providing free Internet for families during this time. They are some of the online learning platforms are also doing the same thing, like Zoom is now free to educational services. That's disappointing to hear that there is not a strategy in place in a place like Texas where the Internet providers like Comcast and Infinity or Xfinity and others aren't providing. Because in New York and Connecticut, I know for sure. Well, first of all, Comcast made a statement, Comcast made a statement, which they actually posted. And I'll pull up in a second. But here's the deal, though.

Again, if I don't have a router at home, I can't pick up the Internet. And so what this is exposing, just like when it comes to on the economic side, what it is exposing are the gaps in the difference between, again, people who are middle class or upper middle class and people who don't. There are a lot of people who if you're middle class, you go like the whole deal with voter I.D have these arrogant people, like, I don't understand. What's the problem? I mean, you have a driver's license. Well, guess what?

Not everybody drives. And then a lot of people who don't need a driver's license because it's just not a requirement. And one person may think, well, this is just so basic. It's just so expected. Like, why don't you have it? Not realizing somebody else's situation. To the point where we're saying, Henry, go to, actually let me pull it up.

Let me switch over here and pull up on this iPad over here. Comcast made this announcement a day ago. Henry, if you can pull up, you can. Today we announced a comprehensive COVID-19 response to help keep Americans connected to the internet, offering free unlimited data, opening Xfinity Wi-Fi network nationally for free, waiving late fees and helping low-income families get connected.

What's happening though with a lot of schools, they're realizing kids don't, not all kids have iPads, not all of them have computers. And so we're now seeing, again, this thing exposing the difference between the haves and the have-nots. So who could disagree with that, right? But one of the things that is happening, Roland, is that many school systems are in fact allowing children

to check out iPads or whatever the platform that they're going to be, I mean, whatever the mechanism they're going to use to use their online learning. So whether it be an iPad or a MacBook or Chromebook or whatever, they're allowing children to sign them out. And what is important about that is I think we have an opportunity that we've never had before in the American, not in our lifetime, in the American academic experience to rethink the way in which we educate. We actually now can begin to create schools of one like never before.

We're very excited, believe it or not, Roland, about what we can do academically. However, there are real challenges. So on Tuesday after school, there were helicopters flying above our school in Harlem because there's a bit of a war going on between a couple of communities. And because we're a charter school, we have children coming from various communities. And because we're in a densely populated area, there are kids coming from different communities coming to a central area. One of the young brothers who attends our school said, and this is before corona was part of our decision-making process, he was concerned about summer.

He said, the reason why I come to school early is because I need to get about this foolishness. We have real contextual challenges that are occurring that we're not thinking about. Our schools, in many cases, are the safest place for many of our children. Again, the kids I work with are in places like Bridgeport, Connecticut, and Hartford, Connecticut, and Harlem, and the Bronx, communities that are struggling in many ways. And so our children are afraid to be home. So while we're excited about what we can do to teach them,

and I wish I could show you some of the really cool things our faculty are putting together, I also have to keep in mind that what's happening in our community is a real thing. Our block was surrounded by police officers just because kids were getting into foolishness. It's not even summer yet. Well, it is certainly, I think, for a lot of people, showing the gaps in our education system. Our income system is showing the gaps in employment, in health care, and in moments like this.

And I would hope you have people who are not just focused on the short term, but realize that, hey, this is one of those opportunities you can use to actually deal with some of the larger issues. I said this, same thing, if you read Ron Susskind's book, Confidence Man, talking about the economic team of President Barack Obama, he said that he actually had on his campaign team, he had an A team, but when he got to the White House,

he chose the B team versus the A team. Here's an opportunity where we need our big thinkers to say, how can we deal with some of the structural issues when you have this sort of calamity? I'm not quite sure that they're going to be thinking that way, but I think we should be pushing them to think much bigger and broader. Steve Perry, always a pleasure, man,

and keep handling your business. Likewise, bro. I want to go back to my panel here. Lauren Victoria Burke, NNPA, joins us. Folks, I mean, this is, I go back to what I was saying with Bill and with Steve. You cannot ignore these major things that are going on and how you do have a moment. You actually have a moment

to actually deal with some structural stuff. If you got people who are thinking like that. Or it's just, send more money out out and then it's going to fix it. Yeah, look, the thing is, the thing is this, bailouts, you know, there's a level of moral hazard that comes with bailouts. Look, we saw it in 2000, 2008, 2007 to 2009 with the bank bailouts. I do think that, look, if the government comes out and, well, first and foremost, if there are going to be any bailouts, the first people that need to be bailed out are the American people, American taxpayers, you know, that keep everything afloat. Secondly, if you're going to come in and start bailing out industries, they're, you know, look, if you're going to take the dollars, you know, and not necessarily what the gun to work to your head,

the way Treasury did it in 2008, 2009 with some of these banks that didn't really need it. But if you're going to ask for a bailout and take the bailout, I do think that, hey, you know, there is, the government has the right to add some strings attached to it. And I think Mark Cuban went down the proper path. I think, you know, look, some of these companies, their employees should be able to partake in the profit sharing. Their employees should be able to partake in the stock and buy stock of the company. I do think you have an opportunity to deal with some of the structural things here. But one, you have to have the will of government. And two, you have to have the will of people. Hey, I'd be satisfied if as part of the bailout, because I do believe in giving it to

the industries that are hurting, but that the employees who were in place when you laid them off, they come back, you get back the status quo. And then at some some point you obviously you're free to make whatever management decisions You want to make but they have got to be there for some period of time So it doesn't look like you're gonna fire them to take advantage of the bailout minimally now You can do a lot more with that But minimally that ought to be the case because you look at the auto industry and some of the other industries that were bailed out to Barack Obama They made them turn around.

And the other thing is this. You could also make some of these loans whereby the industry or the industry participants would have to pay the government back. And that's worked. You can't, Lauren, bottom line is you cannot sit here and have a system where these companies are participating in changing these laws, having these carve-outs.

I'm sorry, if you're gonna line up for taxpayers to bail you out, to me, it better be some hardcore, uh, stringent rules put in place. And this is real simple. If you don't want to abide by them, you're on your own. Yeah, well, like what Eugene just said,

I just got off of 95 coming from Richmond. I spent the day with Lieutenant Governor of Virginia. And the biggest thing that we get in, in terms of panic, are three sectors, right? So small business owners, obviously, faith leaders, pastors, and parents of kids. And we know what that's about. Obviously, their kids with them. It's really not an economic thing. It's just a child care thing,

which is actually an economic thing. But at any rate, the panic is real, and it should be real because some of these business owners that we've been talking to are going out of business within 14 days. So Mark Cuban was right when he said that let's not be giving businesses this money

so they just reinvest in their stock, okay? And what Eugene just said and what the president is endorsing with this $2,000, I'm telling you right now, I mean, I'm not... I didn't... My major was in history, but I don't think you need to be an economist to figure out when people cannot pay their rent, when they cannot pay their mortgage,

when we have a country whose average savings account is, like, $500 or $600, those margins cannot be withstood, they're too tight to go two and three months with no income. That can't happen. First of all, while you're talking, keep going, Henry, go to my iPad.

Justin just texted me and said... Because HUD, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac suspended foreclosures and evictions during this whole outbreak. Go ahead. Right, Justin just texted me and said that... Because HUD, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac suspended foreclosures and evictions during this whole outbreak. Go ahead. Right, Justin just texted and said New York is suspending debt collection. Yeah.

So that conversation has got to be accelerated very quickly. Yeah, you've had, of course, when Trump made the announcement about student loan, no, when they said they suspended interest. No, you've got to stop. You got to suspend right now the payment of student loan.

And forget tax credits and all this nonsense dancing around the edges. I'm talking cash money. And it's good to see the president is endorsing the 2000, you know, person. That's the direction. First of all, when Tom Cotton. Right. Romney. When Tom, no, no, Romney got money. Romney from Utah. No, Tom Cotton... Romney. No, no, no.

Romney from Utah. No, Tom Cotton from broke-ass Arkansas. When Tom Cotton stands up on the floor and goes... Pay it off. No, no, no. We got to send money direct. Because you're absolutely right. What is happening here...

Look, this is how basic this whole thing is. I said... I mean, three days ago, I hit my parents. My parents are 72. They live in my home in Texas. First thing is, do y'all need cash? Because see, the other thing is this here.

What's happening is, right now, cash is king. Because the deal is, you now start dealing with credit. Now you start dealing with credit. Now you start talking about credit cards, interest rates. People, all the folks who have been playing around with this whole deal, don't seem to understand. This is not some small deal.

This is impacting every sector. And I'm telling you, Scott, I'm warning y'all right now, expect it. I believe we are two weeks away what's going to be a mandatory shutdown. Because if they cannot get, if they are unable, we got to be doing a million, two million, three million tests a week. This whole deal of, hey, we're shipping out thousands. No, no, no, no, no. You got to be able... This is very basic math. 300 million Americans. If you do 10 million tests in the next month, it's at 290 million. And the problem is

this whole deal about show symptoms, but you got people, you got NBA players, somebody need to explain to me how in the hell they got tested, who got tested, and guys are like, I'm showing no symptoms. Well, but it's the reverse. So this thing is about this whole thing. It doesn't have to be 10 million.

It's going to be, you're right, you need 10 million. Or you said three or four million. No, I'm saying if you do 10 million in the next month, you still got 290 million Americans that ain't been tested. But you're going to have more people, whether they're tested or not, who are going to become symptomatic. And so it's embarrassing. For example, here's the panel right here, right? Nobody's symptomatic for the

coronavirus, right? Okay. So here's the number one question. If you want to be tested, because you could be asymptomatic, right? Right. Where would you go in the next 24 to 48 hours to get a corona test? Anybody on Hold up. First of all, I have no idea. According to the Surgeon General, you're not supposed to go. No, no, no. According to the Surgeon General, he said call your doctor. I called my doctor. Here's the problem with that.

You have doctors who, you have, there was a woman who was a doctor at MSNBC who said, I have a patient who is showing symptoms couldn't get a test. Booyah. Now what? A patient showing symptoms,

then it was kind of like, well, are the symptoms serious enough? Do you have to be gasping for breath? I mean, this is, and the thing is... So what do you do with that patient, though, Roman? What do you do? Basically, what their deal is, self-quarantine and hope that shit go away.

Take some Taylor Swift and sit tight. Cuomo's scenario with the doubling of the people who, of course, have been diagnosed, which, of course, we don't know about the unknown, the untested, and his conversation that he's been having now for a week about the hospitals being overwhelmed is a real serious scenario that could actually happen. And the fact that he's talking about that and locking down and having a shelter in place in New York City, I still can't believe it was in New York that they shut down the bars.

Yeah. Well, he shut down a shelter in place last night. Okay. And the restaurants and bars were shut down here in D.C. too. But the point is to get back to the sense of urgency. I know he has a really marked sense of urgency. He does. Governor Ainsley in Washington State.

Governor Hogan in Maryland. And now we know apparently what happened in Washington State, the reason that thing blew up, because the CDC, with examination, they realized there were workers who were working at multiple old folks' homes. Right. And so the reason that thing hopped from place to place because the workers were actually moving from place to place. But the sense of urgency that Hogan and Cuomo have,

that has to be nationwide. But it has to be on a federal level, but you have somebody who's playing games with it. And again, this is not picking on people who are young, but I was reading this story, I think it was in Wyoming. There are three cases. Let's pick on them. All three people who are under 30 years old.

Yeah. All right, so CBS News went out and did some interviews down in Miami. Y'all want to see stupid? I get corona, I get corona. At the end of the day, I'm not going to let it stop me from partying. You know, I've been waiting. We've been waiting for Miami spring break for a while. About two months we've had this trip planned. Two, three months.

We're just not having a good time. Whatever happens, happens. Like, it's really messing up with my spring break. What is there to do here other than go to the bars or the beach? And they're closing all of it. It's really messing up. I think they're blowing it way out of proportion. I think it's doing way too much. Doing us bad. We need a refund. This virus ain't that serious. It's more serious things out there like hunger and bad. We need a refund. This virus ain't that serious. It's serious. It's more serious things out there like hunger and poverty. We need to address that. Yeah, I mean,

we planned this a long time ago and it was kind of up in the air if we still go, but like we're here. I just turned 21 this year, so I'm here to party. So it's kind of disappointing, but we're just making the most of it. We met these other people in our little Airbnb spot. So we're just hanging out with them and trying to get drunk before everything closes. I mean, it sucks, but we're going to make the best of it. We're enjoying ourselves. It sucks. And I'm from New Orleans, so this really sucks. However, we're going to enjoy ourselves.

We're having day parties all day. It's my birthday, St. Patrick's Day. Turn up. We're just trying to roll with the boy. We're just living for the moment. We're just going for it. We're just going to do what happens when it happens. When stuff closes, we're going to do it when it closes.

Besides that, we're just trying to have the best trip we can. Y'all, you heard the one person say, we met some people in the Airbnb and we're just hanging together. You don't know where in the hell they came from. You don't know what they got. And all those people are going home.

Ain't no Perel anywhere. Not a Perel anywhere. And they may have more situation than just coronavirus. Party, man. We're just going to party until they shut it down. And if it gets rough, it gets rough. Go ahead. But the thing is this, right?

The thing is this. You got to get people tested. You know, I think those folks shouldn't be allowed. Where? Tell me where to go to get a test. Well, look, I know where to go in Maryland. You do? Yeah, yeah, the governor.

Listen, we have a good, competent governor in Maryland. No, no, it's the same thing. First of all, I would say Inslee in Washington State, Cuomo in New York, Hogan in Maryland, the woman who was in Michigan. Governors across the country are stepping up, but this still goes back to leadership. Here's the videos that folks put together. Again, just so you understand the response of Trump from one point to the other.

Then you get the folks at Fox News, it was a whole different world. Y'all go ahead and play this video. Play this video showing you again the disparity in the responses. This is yet another attempt to impeach the president. And sadly, it seems they care very little for any of the destruction they are leaving in their wake. We must test for the virus in order to stop the spread of it. What could be a very great recession, some predicting even a depression. At worst, worst case scenario, it could be the flu. I feel like the more I learn about this, the less there is to worry about.

I was about to say the same thing. We don't have immunity to this virus. It's a new virus. It's a pandemic strain of a virus we haven't seen before. All the talk about coronavirus being so much more deadly doesn't reflect reality. Without a vaccine, the flu would be far more deadly. We are facing an incredibly contagious and dangerous virus that is moving across the world from one hotspot to another. We're going to call out anyone and everyone who's using this virus as a political weapon against the president.

The standard flu every single year kills tens of thousands of Americans. We are now entering what will be the crucial defining 15-day period as it relates to this virus, where we must slow the spread of coronavirus. It's actually the safest time to fly. Everyone I know that's flying right now, terminals are pretty much dead. We have a responsibility to slow down this virus and to think of other people during this time. And so if you can keep your distance

and prevent someone from getting close to you that might be sick, you could save your family, you could save the elderly and help our country as a nation. It is absolutely disgusting that Democrats are seeking to use this complex virus to score cheap political points. This dangerous health crisis could dovetail quickly into a political crisis.

It's already feeling economic ramifications of it all. Here's what I think would happen. I think Suzanne Scott, the CEO of Fox News, had a meeting and say, dumbasses, our audience, they're the ones who are most vulnerable. Take this seriously. That's why I think what you're seeing,

when we talk about taking it seriously as well, we finally, again, I told you a day after the New York Times dropped the story, all of a sudden the Secretary of Defense comes out of hiding. Secretary of Veteran Affairs comes out of hiding. And then they came to the podium today. I'm just saying, you finally figured out they worked for the administration, Donald Trump.

Watch this. You got. DOD's coronavirus efforts as we continue to focus on our three priorities. That's first of all, protecting our personnel and their families. Second, safeguarding our national security mission capabilities. And third, of course, supporting the administration's whole-of-government approach. First of all, though, I do want to assure the American people that the United States military remains ready and capable of defending the country and our interests abroad. Now, with that, the department

is leaning forward in our response to COVID-19. We have issued international and domestic travel restrictions to all DOD personnel and families that should dramatically reduce potential exposure to the virus. Those have been in place for some time now. As I announced yesterday, the Department of Defense will make available up to 5 million N95 respirator masks and other personal protective equipment from our own strategic reserves to the Department of Health and Human Services for distribution. The first 1 million masks will be available immediately. We're also prepared to distribute to HHS up to 2,000 operational deployable ventilators for use as needed. Yesterday,

I was at Fort Detrick, Maryland, which is probably the military's premier research institute, where I got updated on the incredible work our people are doing as part of the interagency team to work on vaccines and therapeutics. They are making great progress there. We also have announced that we've certified our 16th lab, or we'll soon certify our 16th lab to help with processing tests from across the country. Additionally, I have directed, as the President mentioned, that the hospital ships' mercy and comfort be prepared to deploy to increase the nation's medical capacity. And we have also alerted a variety of field and expeditionary hospitals to be prepared to deploy as well as needed, based on direction from the Commander-in-Chief. Today, leadership from the Army Corps of Engineers is in New York meeting with Governor Cuomo

and his team. I spoke with Governor Cuomo yesterday and other governors. I will be speaking to more in the coming days to make sure that they know what DOD can provide through our system to address their needs. In my conversations with governors and members of Congress about DOD's resources, I've made it clear that we will continue to support

the administration's comprehensive efforts and the country every step of the way while ensuring our nation's security remains the top priority. I want to conclude by thanking again all of our service members and their families who have been affected by this outbreak. They are all great heroes. We are continuing to support them throughout this. We are all in this together. Thank you all very much. Thank you very much. All right, folks, very few African Americans serving in the military have ever had four stars on their shoulders.

My next guest, he is one of them. He was the first leader of AFRICOM, that command when it was started under President George H.W. Bush. General Kip Ward joins us right now. General, glad to have you here. You heard the Secretary of Defense there. General, look, you've had to deal with these issues,

being over AFRICOM, dealing with the issues with Ebola and other issues happening all across the globe. Explain to the audience really being in the room how the military operates when something like this here. This is a national security issue as well. You know, how do you mobilize? We heard that in the military, look, that they've canceled all domestic international flight, allowing people to stay where they are. So give us a sense of how the military is operating and thinking right now. Good evening, Roland, and thanks for inviting me to participate this evening. A couple of dimensions that we want to consider here. First of all, the military, as the Department of Defense and all of

its entities, has this primary mission, obviously, of safeguarding our nation's security, both at home and abroad, in varying ways. As a brigade commander, for instance, I deployed my brigade to Florida for Operation Hurricane Andrew Relief because our citizens at home needed the support that we, the military, could provide. And I'll go back into more of that in a bit. And the second dimension is that as a citizen, we too are subjected to the same sorts of things that every American citizen is subjected to, be it at home or abroad. And so doing the things that are prudent measures that every citizen would do,

that is also a part of this dynamic. So when you look at the specifics of the reaction, the activity being undertaken by the military, candidly at this point, my understanding is that you have as well, I'm not deeply involved at this time, but understanding the processes from the standpoint of what you do to protect the force, and those are the things that are common things that are being done by every American citizen that candidly are our first line of defense when it comes to protecting ourselves from COVID-19,

this spread of this virus. And then secondly, the things that can be done by the military as an institution of our federal government that will support the efforts of our other agencies, local state governments, with respect to being able to respond, address contingencies as they arise. And in this particular situation, we're learning things every day. And then being able to present these sorts of contingencies, alternatives to the decision

maker such that those resources can be brought to bear if needed, where needed, and in a timely way. We hear people say the military should be dispatched, National Guard should be dispatched. If that's the case, how are they used? Used to do what? The dispatch of the National Guard, obviously, in our system, those forces belong to state governors. And as you've indicated, and I've heard, many of the state governors are in fact dispatching and using those National Guard forces to do a multitude of things. It could be assisting the state and local authorities to do things such as distribution of food, other material that help to abate the crisis. They could be used to help transport, provide logistics. It's basically in logistics support, and in some cases, potentially to provide

a security umbrella for the conduct of other activities under the direction of the state and local officials when it comes to the National Guard. And at this point in time, it is the National Guard who is under the jurisdiction of the governors and the territorial entities to provide that type of support. And it's wholly appropriate that governors take their National Guard outfits and provide that type of logistical support in order to support the activities of their state and local entities. We heard them talking about the Defense Production Act, and then what that does to free up.

Can you explain again for the audience who doesn't know anything about the Defense Production Act, what that even does? Essentially in a national emergency, those industry activities that produce commodities that are important in addressing a particular situation can be directed by the president to then develop as well as to make, produce those items of equipment that are important to addressing the national scenario. And so in this case, those private entities that make various things that are important in addressing this situation

because of the invocation of the Defense Production Act, those institutions and those jobs, those particular agencies, those corporations devote their resources to producing products that are particularly designed to address this situation. And that is done under the offices of the Defense Production Act. General Ward, this is A. Scott Bolden. Good seeing you again. I hope you're doing well. My question has to do with what we're not seeing. In your opinion, what aren't we doing? What aren't we seeing? What aren't we moving forward as the federal government addresses this coronavirus? For example, I raised earlier in the show, the Army Corps of Engineers could

be brought in to lead, to set up hospitals. They build bridges. They do all kinds of incredible things all over the world. And yet we don't see them in some leadership role. We don't see FEMA in some leadership role. I know you've got some experience with working with FEMA. And so what aren't we doing and why aren't those agencies leading or why aren't we hearing about them? Hi. Hello there, Scott. And two things that we need to understand about that process. One, in our federal system of government and

regardless of how we may think about it and having been a part of many forms of government, this one is the one that I would certainly want to be living under where when you get to the type of disaster situation that exists, and this is clearly a global disaster situation and it's impacting our country, but the state, local authorities put the demand on the table. You don't see generals like I was marching into an area and saying, this is what I'm going to do, move aside. Now, there may be times when someone might want to see that,

but again, that happens in places where I've been, and certainly you have as well, and that's not how our system of government is established. And so unless a lot of other things change, that piece of it is the way it is, and candidly, I'm okay with that. Secondly, when it comes to what's not being seen, I mentioned the fact of contingencies. The United States military, we plan for the unknown, not because we know the specifics, but when it comes to providing support, a range of contingency actions that can be taken, from moving logistics and supplies to safeguarding facilities to providing stocks that may exist in the stocks of the Department of Defense that could be then used in that civilian contingency

from airlift to other sorts of things are appropriate. The response is contingent upon the examination of the specific activity at the time as opposed to doing things and to use a term that I use of an I could serve Africa you want to add value and at a minimum do no harm so as you add value that value must be from the floor position and that in for that information derived is derived from how you understand what you're getting from state and local entities. And then once that's understood, you respond in kind as best as possible when it comes to moving forward and supplying with either logistics, augmentation of personnel, some organizational activities.

And so the various entities, be it the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which is basically a civilian entity. It's basically a civilian entity that comes together. It doesn't exist in one blob. It comes together as pieces may be needed from the contractor support that's available. You have certainly a professional corps that's there that operates day in and day out. But when it comes to standing up and bringing things together, be it out of our National Guard and Reserve, mobilizing these activities is what goes on. The plans that exist to do that are plans that are contingency plans based on a range of scenarios that can be tailored to the specific situation at hand. General Ward, it's Lauren Burke. How are you?

During your time in the Army, there's a lot of rumors right now about quarantining people. I don't know whether they're true or not. It might be the Russians playing around with us. But when you were in the Army, you ever hear of a plan that sounded like it could actually happen where Americans would be quarantined someplace for any reason, whether it was disease or anything else? Well, certainly quarantine is a term that we all are aware of. There is, from the standpoint of my specific understanding, a quarantine for the sake of quarantine isn't something that was done. You have a circumstance or a situation where to safeguard, to prevent, that certainly is there. But no, I've not been apprised of any specific situation whereby you quarantine for the sake of quarantine other than some existential situation that exists that makes quarantine a very valid course of action to be taken, as would be potentially the case here.

And as right now, in a sense, we are there. I mean, I'm here now, quote, unquote, grounded because I'm taking the advice of those who say it's best to stay put and prevent the spread of this thing. And when you see folks who don't do that voluntarily, well, it's kind of like what President Kennedy said many, many years ago. Ask what you can do for your country. What every individual American citizen can do to help combat this is to interact as little as possible because the more you interact, the greater potential is for this thing to spread in ways that we still don't understand candidly. And the greatest prevention to that is to stay put so that you don't risk the spread of this disease. And in today's global environment, it's even more a potential if the mixing, the interaction is such that it just enhances the potential for that happening. And so quarantine, if the situation demands it

and requires it for many reasons, would be an appropriate course of action given all other options and alternatives having been tried, tested, or deemed to be would not work. General, Gene Craig here. Question. So we have an absence of leadership right now. And so my question to you is, you know, being someone that oversaw AFRICOM and, you know, has a thorough understanding of, you know, what disaster response looks like on multiple different levels and different scales, If you were president, who would be the one person that you would appoint essentially as the point person to handle this response,

to bring all the levers of government together, local, state, federal, and how would you empower them? Because I think that's what we need right now. I mean, a lot of governors are stepping up, but the federal response just isn't clicking right now. Yeah, well, I don't think I could answer that because I'm probably going to have all the information that would be important to make that determination. Again, we live in a federal system of government, and that federal system of government that I swore for 40 years to obey and respect, and I still do. Nothing has changed about that. And unless we're to throw a lot of other things, then we have to ensure that what we do in our federal system of government works. And in these cases, and it's truly a national scenario, but our state local authorities that are backdropped and supported by our federal response capabilities

and resources are where we ought to be and collaborating and cooperating and discussing so that things are known, facts are known as best as we can, because there are no 100% guarantee of any day. These things are changing daily. And one of the, I guess I'll call it one of our axioms that we use in the military, no plan survives once you cross the line of departure. So what we were thinking last week is candidly a reduces your ability to respond. You respond to the scenario as it changes, doing your very best to be out in front of it and doing those proactive things as best as you can determine will support where you are and where you want to go. And so for me, who that person might be, again, not a position to say, the involvement of the team is important

and listening to what the team brings to the table from the varying perspectives to make a decision is where we are and I'd probably be on the same side of moving forward. General, I do have to ask you this here. Speed matters. Look, you serve in the military. You know what happens when people wait.

You know what happens on the battlefield when folks say, well, no, let's do this 48 hours from now as opposed to do it now. It sort of works both. Sometimes it works both ways. You've got to have enough time to get your troops prepared, have your logistics in place, your supply lines, to be able to execute something.

When you look at something like this here, when you look at a video, and guys, go ahead and play that video again. This was February 12th of this year, and there was a coronavirus hearing in the Department of Homeland Security. And Senator Kamala Harris put this video on her Twitter feed on February 12, 2020. I want you to listen to this. We'll talk about today being almost a month later.

Guys, go ahead and play that. The American people also, Mr. Chairman, need to hear from the officials who are currently responsible for addressing this. And we need a public hearing with current government officials as soon as possible. It is critical to my state of California. I have spoken with some of the current officials and asked them why they are not here today. And they did not have a good response

for why they are not. In fact, they went on to say, well, we have to take time to prepare talking points. The American people deserve them to be here this morning. I'm not asking you to critique this administration. If you choose to do so, you will. But when you think back to that, February 12th, 2020, when you look at the comments where Trump was like, we got to contain, it's under control, I'm not really worried about it. Here we are more than a month later, we still aren't even testing, you know, a thousand people a day.

There are things that are happening more than a month later that should have been really in place a month ago. Can you speak to, when time is of the essence, how every day delayed makes this situation even worse? Yeah, Roland, and I appreciate that. You know, the essentials of time are clearly important with respect to what you do, when you do it, and how you do it. And all based on, predicated upon the information available at hand at the time.

We have a requirement to take your best information that you have, and based on that information, take decisions and actions that are reflective of your understanding at that particular point in time, given who has the ability to certainly bring resources to bear. Unfortunately for me, I don't know what was going on on February 12th other than what I certainly recall from the news media as well. So I can't address and say what should have been done or not done at that point in time because I'm not aware of the information. I will tell you this. I will tell you this. As a commander, as a commander, there were times when I made a decision very, very quickly that I said, wow, I should have maybe waited three or four days because I had some information that I didn't have

at the time. And there were times when information that I didn't have, but I just felt I needed to make a decision. I made that as well. And it turned out to be a good decision at the time. But there have been other times also that the decision was made, it would have been a better decision had I waited. So it's not the type of scenario that you can say absolutely what should have been the case or not case, not having this thing called facts bearing on the situation, and you need to take advantage of those to the very best you can. And that's what we tried to do. And I would imagine and guess that that's what the leaders have tried to do. I'm not sure.

I don't know. I wasn't there. I'm not privy to that. But I'm certain that from the standpoint of the military point of view and perspective, you have military, especially here in the Homeland Defense Arena, the Northern Command, that they were doing those sorts of things based on information at time and preparing themselves, looking at the contingencies, determining what might be available, should be called upon, and then preparing to offer that up as soon as it was requested by the National Command Authority or by the states. All right.

Retired General Kit Ward, we surely appreciate you joining us, giving us that analysis. I keep saying this. It's important for us that we see African-Americans who are doctors, who are experts in pandemics, but also in the military out here because, unfortunately, in mainstream media, you swear when it comes to black generals, only one exists is Colin Powell. So, always glad to have your voice, and we appreciate you joining us. Thank you. All right. Thanks a lot. Proud to serve. All right. Thanks, sir. Tell your wife hello. All right, folks, we were talking about, first of all, this came in while

we were interviewing General. Go to my iPad, please. Congressman Mario Diaz Ballard, a Republican out of Florida, has tested positive for coronavirus, becoming the first U.S. lawmaker to contract the virus as spreading throughout the United States.S. lawmaker to contract the virus as spreading throughout the United States. Remember, a number of folks were down there gathered at Mar-a-Lago where different people tested positive, the mayor of Miami and so many others. Matter of fact, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, y'all noticed that they announced that she was being quarantined, but there's been no word about the testing because the White House complained.

They complained that she went public with having symptoms. Again, that to me speaks to a White House that's unwilling to deal with reality and just wants people just to shut up and be quiet. Also, while we were sitting here talking, I got this tweet here, and I gotta go ahead and talk about this here, because I think it speaks to the problem that I think we have.

So, you know, you heard the people who have been quite critical of these stock buybacks in these companies. Well, this person, Lee Fang, just put this tweet out, and I had to pull it up, and it says, Holy shit, Boeing spent $43 billion on stock buybacks, helping more than double its stock price in 2017, 2018, enriching shareholders only to melt down from its mass-produced faulty planes

and the current coronavirus crisis. Now they need a bailout. And you see they have a story there from nakedcapitalism.com. But here's the thing. They want a $60 billion bailout. Mark Cuban was right. I'm sorry. Yeah, Mark Cuban was really right. All these companies who spent billions, the trillion dollars that they were able to bank from the Trump tax cut. What do these companies do? And the thing is, we kept saying Trump was lying. Oh, they're going to use his money and put it back into the companies and the workers.

And the CEOs were literally on panel saying, no, we're not. We're going to do stock buyback. That's the trickle-down nonsense that we've heard for years. I'll give Trump a little credit at this moment, though. He's headed in the right direction with the $2,000. Hopefully nobody, $2,000 per person, nobody will get in the way and stop him. But the same thing happened when we did the bailout in 2008. We gave a bunch of money

to bankers, right? And what did that get us? Pretty much absolutely nothing. My view was, let them jump out the window like we did with... Right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, Boeing, you're a planemaker. Guess what? Your financial problems are because of your rush of the 737 maps. That's the deal. And I'm sorry. Boeing does not... What about their 100, guess what? Your financial problems are because of your rushing the 737 max.

That's the deal. And I'm sorry, Boeing does not... That's not even a bigger issue. The bigger issue is Boeing's... The bigger thing about Boeing is this. We just want a CEO. We forced out and it's a new CEO. Yes, but we know Boeing as a plane manufacturer

that pretty much supplies most of the American airlines. The government knows Boeing. Other governments, other countries around the world, too. The government knows Boeing as one of their top defense contractors. And also the producer of most of the things that NASA needs to continue their operations. So, you know, that's why they're asking for a bailout. But I agree. These companies, they should have done what Apple's done over the year.

They should have done what a lot of our strong top 20 companies in the country. They held their cash for a rainy day like this. Scott. No, Boeing. Two years ago. Three years ago. This isn't a business show, but three years ago, everybody was asking. No, no, no.

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And Google. And Google. And Google. And Google. I believe in more hazards. But if we're going to bail out, if we're going to bail out, it needs to start with the American taxpayer. Listen, me being a Republican. Hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait.

Me being a Republican is me believing in conscious capitalism. A big part of that conscious capitalism is companies doing the right thing first for their shareholders. You know what the best thing these companies should have did for their shareholders? It makes sure their balance sheets were healthy. Make sure their balance sheets provided long-term growth and long-term stability. Running through stock buybacks, yes, it does. Yes, it allows for temporary growth. It allows for temporary stock.

No, no, no. No, it doesn't. No, no, no. No, it doesn't. It allows for temporary growth. It allows for temporary... No, no, no. No, it doesn't. No, no, no. No, it doesn't. It allows for higher earnings per share because there are less shares. It allows for one thing and one thing only. Higher earnings per share because there are less shares. There are less shares of earnings being distributed upon.

It's not... Scott, Scott. Scott, listen. Listen, listen. I respect you as a lawyer. You're totally lost here. You're totally lost here. You're totally lost here. You're totally lost here.

Sustained. Listen. Sustained. If I'm building a stronger company, you want to start balancing. You want to start balancing. You want to have enough capital and all those things.

Finish. It has a better work environment. It helps the employees. It gives them expertise and training. And all of the strength of that P&L doesn't exactly go all to the shareholders, but there's more money reinvested. You may not like the percentage of what's being reinvested, but overall, it helps the strength of that company, and we need a strong bone.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, finish. And so if they do it through buyback, you don't like it, then tell them that they can't do it. They did none of that. I said, listen, if you don't want that, stop yelling. I'm not wrong. We just disagree. We don't disagree. You've been down that path.

You've been down that path. You're wrong. Wait, wait, wait. You are wrong as hell. You know what would allow for all of those things to take place? You know what would allow for? You all just to take place? You know what would allow for? You all just don't like because shareholders make money. Stop, stop.

Because the company makes money. You know what would allow? Stop, stop, stop. For hundreds of thousands of employees. I'm done. What would allow for all those things we're going to talk about, like actually developing your workforce, giving you increasing salaries?

A strong cash position. Wait, wait. A strong cash position on your balance sheet. The ability if you're dead is called in tomorrow. You can just pay it off. Increase the salaries a strong cast Country of the Billy Tomorrow you can just pay it off stock in the ability Oh the ability to deal because you have a balance a stock cast on a balance Cast on a balance sheet. I got you. I got all that what you're saying and I'm hearing you I'm hearing you Scott, but the problem you're saying is the dollar stores, the K-marts, the Targets, these people who pay, you know,

ooh, we're doing minimum wage, we're making all this money for the top 1%. That's all they can afford. Yeah, okay. That's all they can afford. What Bernie Sanders says is right about that. That's the thing. That's the inescapable fact, okay?

And that employees will never be rich working for Target? No, that the very small percentage of people on the top make the most money. And then there's this big group at the bottom. They take all the risks. They started the company. Oh, they take all the risks. They're on board. Hold on.

I can't just leave it there. First of all, this is real simple. First of all, this is real simple. One second. One second. One second. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait. This is real simple. No, this is real simple. No, this is real simple.

Wait a minute. This is real simple. No, this is real simple. Boeing, I'm talking now. I'm talking. This is real simple. Boeing. No, no, this is real simple.

I got this. I'm talking. If you're Boeing, if you want a $ 60 billion bailout, this is what we gonna do We're gonna give you a 60 billion dollar loan Okay, and we want our money back. No, no interest rate. No the federal government. No, no No, no, you know you go pay interest rate. What is right because we can't afford let me say it right now the cruise industry Boeing they need help, casinos,

all of you. If you want taxpayers to bail you out, there's going to be a list of stringent restrictions that you got to abide by. And you're going to pay it back. I'm sorry. It is nonsensical

for those companies that took that money to do stock buybacks. You're Sheldon Adelson, and you're worth $31 billion? Yeah. That's misleading. No, it's not. Mr. Martin, you don't understand. No, it's not.

It's real simple. It's real simple. We are not going to go down another path where we're going to bolster their bottom lines and do what the banks did. They said they had toxic assets. And those same banks, what did they do? Took the bailout, shored up their bottom line, held on to those toxic assets. When the home market improved, then sold those toxic assets in bundles of 25,000 and 50,000 block homes to private equity. And then made Americans then become renters as opposed to homeowners.

No, no, no. The only way this, the only way, the only way, the only way this works, first of all, not only do they survive, they thrive. That's an emergency. And the homeowners are renters, not owners. He couldn't afford to be an owner. He couldn't afford to be an owner. The people who are paying into those companies,

see, the idea that you give the $2,000, and the moral hazard argument is not a terrible one, but when they get the $2,000 or the $1,000 or whatever it is, they pay into the companies that you're talking about to become profitable. What's wrong with that? My thing is this. My thing is this. My thing is this.

That way it's not enough. The companies were negligent. You take the bailout. That's what this comes down to. Companies were negligent. You took all your cash. Companies were negligent. What you have right now are a bunch of companies that made bad decisions.

You have a bunch of dickholes running around right now. You got a bunch of John Max running around right now. You got a bunch of CEOs that made bad decisions. You have a bunch of CEOs that made bad decisions. They're responsible for the coronavirus? They're responsible for the coronavirus? Let me tell you, you have a bunch of... Listen, I know a lot of these folks are your clients, but the thing is that you have a lot of folks that wanted to pretend to be Eric Smith and Tim Cook.

Well, they can start their own companies and take all the risks. Listen, as somebody that's started... I understand it. But the thing is this. When you are... I'm not mad. I'm not mad. I believe in wealth. I believe in changes.

So you don't take the changes. Go for it. If you believe in entrepreneurship... I do. This real simple. First of all, hold on. If you believe in entrepreneurship, then the money should go to small businesses. I do. This is real simple. It should go to your shareholders. This is real simple. Hey, y'all. First of all, hold on.

Hold on. Got it. Hold on. What do you mean, you people? Hey, stop. Stop. First of all, let me be real clear. Stop talking, Kappa.

I'm a Republican. Kappa, stop talking. You'll get over it. You'll get over it. All right. Hold up. Hold up. I got it. Hold up. Hold up. I got it.

Hold up. No, we're done with the topic. We're done. I think she wants to talk. We're done. No, we're done with this topic. What I'm going to talk about is when the hell is Bernie Sanders

going to get out of the race? Last night, of course, we told you what happened on Tuesday night where Florida and Illinois, we can go down the line, how Joe Biden did. Let me tell you,

there's something that's so cold. I didn't even realize this. Somebody did this here. Now, some fool, of course, who also follows me, who's like, oh, you've been sold out for Biden, which is funny because I haven't endorsed

anybody at all. But I saw a tweet from David Axelrod that I thought to be quite interesting. And he said that of the nine states that Biden has won, here it is. Let me take a picture of it. Hold up.

He said... Yeah, yeah. No, actually, I interrupted you for it because, frankly, you were saying the exact same thing over and over and over again. No, no, no, no. First of all, we don't want to cover it because... I represent big businesses.

Plus, also, I understand that Scott is playing y'all and does bullshitting and y'all are falling for the okie-doke. So, yes, he is. He is. I believe you. Y'all are falling for it. I doke. So, yes, he is. He is. I know exactly what the hell it was. So, he went down that rabbit hole and you chased him. And that's why I was like, that's why I was sitting there, both y'all chased him. And you're still chasing him.

Right now you're chasing him. That's why you're laughing. That's why you're laughing. So, David Axelon tweeted this out. He said, amazing stat from a smart Florida political hand. In Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia, Joe Biden won all but 10 counties. That's nine states. All right. That's nine states.

That's not a blowout. That's like a straight ass whooping. That's a Thanos snap. It's real simple. Bernie Sanders first of all, Axios reported he was suspending his campaign. Can y'all stop falling for Axios? If Axios reports anything, don't believe it.

Just straight up don't until somebody else confirms it. So, but here's the deal. Here's the deal. Can Senator, look, it's clear. First of all, also, Scott, at this point, Biden has more delegates ahead of Sanders than Obama had at this point against Hillary Clinton. Does it make sense to Senator Sanders to continue running after the shellacking that he keeps getting in these states, losing by 20, 30, 40 points to Joe Biden? It's an object rejection. And so it makes no sense for him to continue. He needs to fall in. But this is his second run. I don't see the path forward. If you had Bernie Sanders on the show,

if I were you, I'd ask him one question over and over again. What see the path forward. If you had Bernie Sanders on the show, if I were you, I'd ask him one question over and over again. What is the path forward to winning? And if you don't have a substantial path forward to winning, then you need to do like the other Democratic candidates, support Biden, unify the party, and let's go beat Trump. And I'd be interested in what his response would be or any from his campaign, because right now, this isn't getting better, other than the primaries being delayed. It's not getting better, and his message is the same, and it's only being rejected for results

as opposed to a revolution. Lauren, Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg... You disagree with that? Excuse me, hold on a second. Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg dropped out after South Carolina, because when they looked at the map, they saw literally

ass whoopings being prepared. And in politics, two things happen. You can stay in and keep getting blown out, or you can actually pull out, maintain whatever leverage that you might have. When you look at these numbers, when you look at what happened in Illinois,

what happened in Florida, he lost Washington State. When you look at, I'm going to go down the line, why do you stay in? So do you have a path forward? Why do you stay in is because we're running a primary season. They're running for president. They're competing against each other. We would have said this about Joe Biden if we used the same logic

of, oh my God, he might lose. Biden would have got out. Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar never had a chance of winning. Period. Never had a chance of winning. First of all, you missed what I just said. No, I didn't. What I just said is after South Carolina,

after South Carolina, they saw the gauntlet coming forward. They saw how bad they did among black voters. When you look at the election results that even took place last night, and then go to last black voters. When you look at the election results that even took place last night, and then go to last Tuesday, and then you look at what happened.

Again, losing by 40-plus points in Florida, losing by double digits in Illinois, and then we can go on. Losing in Michigan, a state he beat Hillary Clinton in. Is there, what is the path forward for Senator Bernie Sanders? In 2008, Barack Obama ran, he ran a very smart campaign with regards to the delegate count.

And it came to sort of the end. We didn't know what was going to happen. I'm not saying that we don't know what's going to happen now. It looks like Biden is going to win. But if we look at the delegate count, it's 1,133 for Biden and 833 for Sanders. It's not that close, but it's not a complete blowout. Actually, I said... Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Biden has a larger delegate lead today than Obama had against Hillary. Great, fantastic. The guy is running for president. No, no, I know he's running for president. He's running for president, and he has the right to run to the end, if it's okay with everybody.

First of all, everybody has a right to stay in. He doesn't have a right to stay in. First of all okay with everybody. First of all, everybody has the right. Hold up. Everybody has the right. Hold up. Bloomberg. No, no, no. First of all.

Okay, hold up. Stop. Hold up. So first of all, I don't know what. That's always a conversation. It hasn't always been a conversation here. No, this has been a conversation forever with Bernie Sanders. No, no, no.

With who? With who? No, no, with who? Why is he this? No, no, no. With who? With who? No, no, with who? Why is he this? No, no, no. With who? With who? In general. No, no, no, no. I don't do general. I do this show. And so what I don't do... What are you asking right now? No, what I'm asking right now is a very basic

question. You're asking when is he going to come out? No, no, no, I'm not. No, no, no. What I'm asking is if you have been blown out in multiple states. Ten counties. Okay? I'm reading in nine if you have been blown out in multiple states. 10 counties. OK? I'm reading in nine states, you only win 10 counties. OK? That means that you're getting embarrassed every week.

The question I asked is, and I'll ask you, Eugene. The question is, when is he dropping out? I'm asking Eugene. When is he dropping out? I'm asking Eugene. You didn't let her finish. No, first of all, she didn't answer. She's finished.

I'm asking Eugene. Do you reach a point, Eugene, where if you keep getting blown out, you actually are losing leverage, or do you drop out realizing the path is getting smaller? So the thing is this. I think we have a situation here where Bernie's kind of drunk on his own celebrity right now. All right? You know, he's drunk on his own celebrity right now. He's drunk on his own celebrity. He doesn't have a pathway

for it, but his folk around him, the team around him, Talcum X and crew, they're trying to figure out what is their next step. What is their next step? They're lost right now. They're three weeks without a primary. Biden's delegate count is insurmountable.

I mean, because of the way the system is. What's your point, though? Excuse me. He's talking. Go. My point is that. I want to finish your point. I went through this as a Ron Paul supporter against Mitt Romney in 2012.

Bernie has a right to stay in until the end. Until the end. But, wait, wait, as a party, as a former party official, the party has a right to form, to form around Joe Biden as a presumptive nominee and move forward without him and pick him up along the way.

But, you know, Bernie doesn't have a pathway forward, but he does have a right to stick in and stick it through. He loses his power and leverage the longer he stays in because what's he going to do with those delegates? What is his power? Waits to the end to get to the DNC. Well, his power will be powerless because it will be a broken convention.

Scott is talking. I shut him up when y'all were talking. Finish your point. I got too many opinions over there, man. Finish your point. Go. He loses his leverage if he holds on and stays in a race into the DNC. Right now, he can get out, use his delegates and negotiate for something of value for himself, his state, or the DNC. Right now, he can get out, use his delegates, and negotiate for something of value for himself, his state, or

whatever, basically. Every day he stays in and doesn't unify behind Biden to go after Trump, right? He's becoming powerless or less powerful. The question I'm going to raise is here, because again, here's the deal. When you said Bernie has a right to stay in, every candidate could. Warren could have

stayed in. Bloomberg could have stayed in. Buttigieg could have stayed in. candidate could. Warren could have stayed in. Bloomberg could have stayed in. Buttigieg could have stayed in. Klobuchar could have stayed in. Harris could have stayed in. Booker, Castro. I can go down the line. Hell, Delaney, Bennett, all of them. But all of them came to a point where they said,

all right, let me look at this whole deal here and say, me staying in, what does it actually get me? If you're Sanders, if you're Sanders, and if you're looking at the map forward, and you're in this to win it, what are you looking at? What can you win when two states

that were just flat out Michigan and Washington State, you won four years ago, you couldn't even win this year. After watching Hillary Clinton, and that bullshit that we saw with Debbie Wasserman shows and the DNC of, ooh, it's just got to be her, it's just got to be her, I think competition is fine.

I think people are going to have to be fine. I'm saying competition is fine as well, but there's a difference between competition and getting blown out. It's like the Harlem... Do you actually go to a Harlem Globetrotters game and think the Washington Generals are going to actually win the game? This is politics. This ain't basketball.

This is politics. He gets to say, look, Bernie Sanders, you may not like him, whatever. Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. Wait a minute. You're the same person who just sat there and said Klobuchar and Buttigieg had no shot. Had no shot. Show me Bernie's shot.

Look at your hands. Are you done? No, no, no, no. You said they had no shot. Show me Bernie's shot. What's the shot? No, no, shot. Are you done? No, no, no. You said they had no shot. Show me Bernie's shot. No, no, no. You said, hold up, Lauren. You said Booter Johnson and Clover Shaw had

no shot. And you're still getting over that comment. No, I'm asking you. Show me where's Sanders' shot. No, where's Sanders' shot? The point is, Bernie Sanders being in the race, I know it shakes everybody up. No, it doesn't! You keep going shaking up.

You keep going, everybody's losing. No, everybody is the chattering class. Who's everybody? The chattering class has been saying this for years about him. What chattering class? Lauren, we're not, Lauren, there are four people here. We are not talking the chattering class. And one person is asking, when is he dropping out?

No, no, I'm asking you a question. When is he dropping out? No, no, no, no, no. Lauren, you can't have it both ways. You want to have it both ways right now. Whatever. You're talking to yourself right now. No, no.

You want to say Buddha, judge, and clubbers are having no shot. You're talking to yourself. But then when I ask you, where is Sanders' path forward, then you're like, oh, here's the right to run. You're talking to yourself. Give it both ways. Eugene, do you see? If I could finish the sentence, which if not, could I have?

But you can't even answer the question. All right. Whatever. I know you want to box me into your world. No, I want you to answer the question. My point is with Sanders. You said Klobuchar and Blue Jays had no shot. You're talking to yourself.

Explain to me, for the remaining states, what is the path forward for victory for Sanders? This is a different question. This is a different question. What is the path forward for victory for Sanders? This is a different question. This is a different question. What is the path forward for the victory for Sanders? Okay, so I already told you. I know it's shocking, but okay. The guy gets to actually run and compete now.

Okay. So the thing is this. That ain't the answer. That's not the answer. Can I finish? Is it all right? Can I finish? Can you all hear?

Do you have something for us to listen to? No, no, I got it. Biden is probably going to win. We know that. All right. Are you good now? You feel good? OK, Biden's going to win.

But you still haven't answered the question. Eugene, do you want to answer the question? The question is, even though he's probably not going to win, he gets to compete. Again, I know democracy is hard. And guess what? Amy gets to compete. And Buttigieg gets to compete. But you said they should have dropped out because they had no shot.

I know your question is basically, your question is, when is he dropping out? I don't know. No, actually, that's your real question. First of all, there's no real question because I asked a real question. The real question is for you to sit here and say,

okay, of the 28 remaining states or whatever, here is the path forward. So what you're really saying is there is no path forward, so what the hell you want to stick around? I have a friend that was a big New Gingrich supporter, right? And he used to always say to me, he'd say, you know, the one thing you can tell

when a campaign is dead, when it's talking about a movement and not a campaign, right? And so I think the real question is, how do Bernie Sanders supporters define victory? And I think Scott made a very indirect point earlier. Their leverage... Yeah, yeah. Their leverage is their maximization of delegates

at the convention to move the party in the direction they want to. So if I'm Bernie Sanders, I probably do stick in and all the way through to maximize my delegate position. What does that get you? Wait, wait, what does that get you? You get to now insert things into the party platform. You get to change the rules of the party for the next primary. You get to, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You get to negotiate your speaking slot. You can do that now. He can't do that now. Hold on, hold on, Scott. Promises are promises, but delegates are forced on the floor.

It's a totally different shot. Hold on, Scott. Hold on, Scott. And Scott, to that particular point. To the point, if you do that, if you do that, you do exactly what Reverend Jackson articulated in 1988. Booyah. And so the point is this here.

If you're the Sanders campaign, then that's exactly what Reverend Jackson did. What are you talking about? Reverend Jackson did exactly that in 1988. Did you hear what I said? I said he had no chance. Who? Reverend Jackson. Oh my God. That's the point! Oh my God. That's the point! I can't. Okay.

Hold on. Hold on. Stop. I need to unpack this here. I need to unpack this here. Wait a minute. I need to unpack this here. So you said Buttigieg and Klobuchar had no shot. But we look at the math. We showed you how Sanders has been getting drilled the last three weeks, which really means he has no shot.

But you're like, well, but he has the right to run. But they have the right to run. But then I'm explaining what Reverend Jackson did. And it's like, well, but he had no shot. Duh! When you have no shot, that means that you stay in for an ulterior motive. And so, what Reverend Jackson

did, by staying in, he articulated why he stayed in to exactly what you just said. Reverend Jackson stayed in, changed the party rules to maximize delegates, the speaking slot. He had leverage. In fact, the week of just said. Reverend Jackson stayed in, changed the party rules to maximize delegates. The speaking slot, he had leverage. In fact, the week of the convention, Reverend Jackson took a bus tour from Chicago to Atlanta.

You thought he was a damn candidate. Drove Michael Dukakis crazy, and he was able to negotiate Ron Brown becoming, of course, chair of the DNC. The point I'm making is... Who was his partner at the convention in doing that? Percy Sutton. Also Dr. Ron Walters and also Harold Ickes.

Okay. If you're Sanders, and what I'm saying is, if you're the Sanders camp, that's actually what you articulate. Yeah. What you say is, when you ask the question, why are you staying in, that's what you do. You do the exact same thing Reverend Jackson did in 1988.

Because what Scott knows is that I know at the conventions, at the I know at the conventions, the world sees the three days of television. But the real work of the convention is what goes on during the day and what goes on the week and a half before the convention. We have the platform committee and the

rules committee and the nomination committee. All the committees are meeting and they're formulating the rules for the party for the next two to four years. Hear me out, though. My point is, because unifying behind Biden and going after Trump earlier versus later, that it's important for Sanders to get out of the race and continue to negotiate, or before he gets out of the race, negotiate for all those points.

Because if Biden's going to not be the nominee, then Biden and the DNC can negotiate with him whatever they want to negotiate with him. He doesn't have to stay in to the end. Hold on. Because to moderate Democrats and Biden supporters, I'm not a Biden supporter per se, but to that group of people, he gets more by leveraging his delegate getting out now his only leverage there's two things his only leverage is delegates at the convention and the second thing, these primaries are going to happen

either way, so if something's going to happen either way and I'm already on the ballot, my name's right there and I'm going to go through it, it makes sense for me to see it all the way to the end maximize my delegate leverage maximize my delegate leverage. Maximize my delegate leverage. And Scott.

The DNC is not going anywhere. Scott, the reason is. Scott, no, no, no. Listen, listen, listen. How did the last DNC chair vote go? It came very close between him and Tom Perez and Keith Ellison. Tom Perez and Keith Ellison. Here's why.

Keith Ellison was the Sanders candidate and didn't win because they didn't want that voice in the party, quite frankly. But Sanders is forced, just like Eugene just said. Sanders is forced a conversation that we wouldn't even have about certain issues. Whether he gets out now or later. The only reason... Here's the deal. Here's the deal. Senator Bernie Sanders,

first of all, okay, is now a Democrat. Independent, running as a Democrat. No, no, wait, wait. Goes a Democrat. Independent, running as a Democrat. No, no, wait, wait. Goes back to independent, not running as a Democrat. He's 78 years old. You hear the criticism about legislation. Here's the reality.

This is his swan song. Yep. And this being his swan song, this is all he has. The reality is this here, just very basic. Answer this here. Will, would party, would Senate, would Senate leaders be listening to bernie sanders if he wasn't a democrat was not run for president no because they wouldn't they

wouldn't need to the threat the threat with bernie sanders right now is that he has an army of supporters across this country that are currently activated it's not like there was like two years ago where you know he might run for president he had to follow right now people are tuned in so bernie sanders says okay you know what y'all don't listen to me i'm where, you know, he might run for president. He had to follow him. Right now, people are tuned in. So Bernie Sanders says, okay, you know what? Y'all don't want to listen to me. Actually, you know what? You know the perfect example? It is 2008. During the middle of the campaign, Hank Paulson had cut a deal with both sides of Congress

on a bailout. What happened? John McCain comes in, blows it up. Goes to supporters, blows up the deal. So Hank Paulson then has to go to Nancy Pelosi and cut the deal rather than Republicans in the U.S. Senate. Bernie Sanders has the possibility to do that exact same thing right now when it comes to dealing with this coronavirus and other things that are moving through Congress. Hold on. But if he does it now or later, he doesn't lose that leverage.

Yes, he does. He merely activates. He does. He activates those Bernie-ites for Biden. No, he doesn't. And that's what the party and Biden want him to do. But no, he doesn't. Here's the deal.

He should. Here's the deal. He cares about being Trump. He knows that even if he stays in, he can raise $30 million next month. He can raise $30 million in May. That's something we need to watch. No, no, no.

What I'm saying is when you look at the other campaigns, the other campaigns also made practical decisions because they had to drop out because their money was drying up. I said that earlier. So what you're dealing with now is, so if you're Sanders, and what I'm saying is, if you're the Sanders camp, just say it. What you should say is, we're going to stay in this all the way to the end. This is exactly what our strategy is. We're not going anywhere. Fine. And what I'm saying is, you go ahead and say it.

First of all, but again, though, I hear what they're saying, but my whole deal is, if you want to use the Reverend Jackson playbook and then and understand to all people who are watching at home. OK, all people right now who want to dismiss Reverend Jackson. Let me remind you, the Reverend Jackson playbook that he ran in 1988 is what created the opportunity for Obama to win in 2008. That was 20 years of being able to change the rules. So don't think for a second that if you drive it out to the convention and you maximize your leverage, you can't impact what happened 20 years later. Last story here, folks.

I keep telling y'all, y'all, well, we know what the hell. You know what time it is. No charcoal grills are allowed. I'm white. I got you, Carl. I'm illegally selling water with our permit on my property. Whoa! Hey! Give me your ID. You don't live here. I'm uncomfortable.

Okay, normally I do not show videos of children fighting. But you don't. Okay, I'm not done. Normally I don't show videos of children fighting. But when you have a little white kid who decides to roll up on a grown black woman and yell the N-word at her, and then, being a black mama, she says to her daughter, not her son, get on this. I'm sorry.

I just could up, period. Y'all, her penis back. Oh, ah. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do.

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I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. when she whooped your ass. And you keep fucking around, I'm gonna make her beat your ass again. Get her down. You pick up something, nigga.

Pick up something. Whoop his motherfucking ass. The whole world. Whoop his ass. Whoop his ass. Whoop his ass. You my child. Whoop his ass.

Don't hit him with nothing. Don't hit him with nothing. Do not hit him with nothing. Okay, all him with nothing. Do not hit him with nothing. Okay, all I'm saying is, okay, when I saw the video, I couldn't... You ought to be ashamed of yourself. It was like, get this. No, listen, listen, you dropped...

She said more than that. Get this. You dropped that word. There are no rules and everything's suspended. Look, we played the other day. The only rule is to throw hands. Now, look, Scott made a pledge earlier. I do think for the culture, if anything happens from that video,

I think Scott should defend that kid and that lady. Scott. From a location standpoint. The mama was like, I ain't dealing with that. Get this. Yep. Like, handle my light work. There were crimes committed in that video.

What were the crimes committed? Sally's self-defense to me. Hate crimes. Salt. These kids couldn't have been more than, what, 6, 8, 10 years old? Right. There's a juvenile justice system. When the police get that video, and I know your public may not like me saying this,

but the mama in regard to reckless endangerment, the kids in regard to being physically abusive to one another, and she encouraging it, I think the juvenile, a juvenile judge would be interested in that. And guess what, Scott, you're gonna defend that mama. Yes, you are. I'm not.

You're gonna defend that mama. I don't do juvenile crimes, but I will say this. Scott, you're gonna defend that mama. They will go to mediation, and they will get help from other agencies. But you know how far a lawyer like yourself will make sure that kid is fine, right? Well, I don't care what the little white kid said.

The mama shouldn't be encouraging violence. You shouldn't be encouraging violence. Well, the thing is, we got to care what the little white kid said. Are you listening to me? Little white kid, you listen. Little white kid, little white kid's using the N-word. I didn't say the kid was right. Long, you're saying?

I was right. I was coming over here. Little white kid's using the N-word, turning a grown white man using guns and using the N-word. So we got to care about what the... Reprimanded. She should have took that kid home. He was reprimanded. He was. Yeah, well, he got his butt kicked. He was reprimanded. That's a reprimand.

Didn't stop him from keep coming. But what I'm saying is we shouldn't, no matter what the basis of violence is, it shouldn't be encouraged. And you shouldn't be running videos like that. Because inherent and indirectly or directly, you're encouraging violence about young, between young people, one black, one white. You let me say all of that.

You did it because it's funny. Because I'm letting him finish his point. Because I'm right. Have you seen it? Look what he just did. Because all the folks on YouTube, Facebook saying that's bullshit, Scott. That's why they're saying that's bullshit. You're regulated by somebody on the Internet.

You ought to be regulated. You done? Any other comment on this?. You ought to be regulated. You done? Any other comment on this? Look at big government Scott down there. Really? Any other comment on this here? Hey, run that shit back. I'm not watching it.

Don't run it back. Run that back. Run it back. Suicide victim! Oh, hold up. Oh, hold up. Get this. Suicide victim!

Suicide victim! Get this. Suicide victim! Suicide victim! Get this. Get this. Yeah. Get this.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do show up. Period. Period. Period. Period. Period. Yo, repeat his back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, She just did when she whooped your ass. And you keep fucking around, I'm going to make her beat your ass again. Get his ass. You pick up something, nigga.

Pick up something. Whoop his motherfucking ass. The whole world. Whoop his ass. You're my child. Whoop his ass. You should. Don't hit him with nothing. Don't hit him with nothing.

While he's down. You got at least eight counts. But what about when two people are fighting? Isn't there a, you know, isn't there a difference when you have two people fighting back and forth? What are the assault charges? Well, you can take into account who's being, who started it, who's ending it. Force must be met with force for self

defense. Isn't she liable for endangerment of a child? Reckless endangerment of a child. Watch. Keep an eye on this story, ladies and gentlemen. Keep an eye on the story. All I know is... We got Roland running a video of it. All I know is Chad got his ass whooped by something

in a dress. You ever got your ass whooped? In a dress. With one house shoe on. It's never fun. All I'm simply saying is, white people. I think you've got to be more responsible about this. No, I'm the responsible white people.

You are? I'm advising y'all. Do not raise your kids to yell the N-word at no grown black woman, especially when she got Layla Ali on her side. That's all I'm saying. You'll get your ass beat. I'm just saying. I've never been more disappointed than you in my life.

And if you a drunk white woman on the plane, do not call the black male flight attendant the N-word when you got a sister sitting next to you who about to whoop your ass as well.

All I'm saying is, as a public service announcement to all white Americans, it ain't going to end well if you do that. Violence is never the answer. Because you're going to end up on our crazy ass white people segment. Can you say that? Y'all, support Roller Barrel Filters by going to rollerbarrelfilters.com.

You can go to use our cash app, square at PayPal, and support our Bring the Funk fan club. Y'all know what we do. Of course, we have General Kip Ward, retired three-star general. So, Friday course, we had General Kip Ward, retired three-star general. So Friday's show, folks, we're going to have retired four-star general Lloyd Austin on the show. One of the high-ranking African-Americans ever in the history of the military. He's going to be right here, talk about the coronavirus and really the role the military can play. So we're looking forward to having him on the show as well. We also, if you got any suggestions on black health experts you want to see us

talk to regarding coronavirus, send us an email by going to RolandSMartin.com or going to RolandMartinUnfiltered.com You can join us. I want to thank our panel Scott, Eugene, Lauren. I want to thank Steve Perry, Bill Spriggs, as well as General Kip Ward for being guests as well. Alright y'all, we got to go.

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