#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 3.6 Auntie Maxine on Schumer's SCOTUS comments; Nina Turner vs. Hilary Rosen; Bernie, Cornel West ad

Episode Date: March 12, 2020

3.6.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Auntie Maxine on Chuck Schumer's SCOTUS comments; Death row inmate Nate Woods executed; Bernie Sanders, Cornel West campaign ad targets older voters; Trump downplays co...ronavirus fears as the stock market takes a beating; Drama between Sanders campaign co-chair Nina Turner and Democratic Biden Supporter Hilary Rosen; Chicago man is shot twice by police for walking between trains; Congressman Bobby Rush draws a comparison between between the way he and Rep. Matt Gaetz were treated for making political statements on the house floor. #RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:55 It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, folks, today's Friday, March 6, 2020, coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Ooh, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer is in all kinds of hot water over his conversation in terms of going after Supreme Court justices. Y'all remember when he went after Congressman Maxine Waters and Speaker Pelosi
Starting point is 00:02:25 putting her on blast? We'll chat with Congressman Waters about the hot water that Schumer is in. All right, folks, Nate Woods put to death last night in Alabama. Clarence Thomas issued a statement. The Supreme Court lifted that statement. Alabama kills an innocent man
Starting point is 00:02:40 for the death of three police officers. We'll give the latest. Also, Bernie Sanders is trying to drum up support from older voters with a little help from Cornel West. We'll show you their latest campaign ad. And also, crazy-ass Trump is trying to downplay the coronavirus by saying that the stock market doesn't reflect his calm.
Starting point is 00:02:57 It's lost 4,000 points in two years. All gains wiped out. Y'all know his ass still lying. And also, what's up? Drama between Sanders campaign co-chair Nina Turney and Democratic Biden supporter Hillary Rosen? Yeah, we'll tell you what happened and why I had to go ahead and correct the white woman
Starting point is 00:03:15 when it came to MLK. Please, if you're gonna quote Dr. King, quote him for real. Also, Chicago man is shot twice by police for walking between trains. Chicago still being Chicago. And Chicago Congressman Bobby Rush says, hmm, I got thrown off
Starting point is 00:03:30 the house floor for wearing a hoodie, so why is Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz sitting there with a mask on? Huh. It's time to bring the funk. Roll the mic unfiltered. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the mess, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got the spook, the fact, the fine on it Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine
Starting point is 00:03:47 And when it breaks, he's right on time And it's rolling, best belief he's knowing Putting it down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks He's rolling, yeah It's Uncle Roro, y'all Yeah, yeah It's Rolling Martin, yeah, yeah It's Uncle Roro, y'all Yeah, yeah, yeah It's Rollin' Martin, yeah
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah Rollin' with Rollin' now Yeah, yeah, yeah He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best You know he's Rollin' Martin Now Martin! Now! Martin! All right, y'all, karma's a bitch. Remember Senator Chuck Schumer when
Starting point is 00:04:35 he criticized Congressman Maxine Waters for her comments criticizing Donald Trump and her, him and Pelosi were attacking her and all this sort of different stuff? Well, Schumer now has some issues after what he said regarding two Supreme Court justices at a pro-choice rally. Henry, go to my iPad. ...taking away fundamental rights.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. Mmm, pay the price. When Republicans have not been too happy, Donald Trump has said that he should pay the price for those comments.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Here's Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell criticizing Schumer on the floor of the Senate. Play. ...to boo two of the associate justices as though Supreme Court justices were professional athletes and Senator Schumer were jeering
Starting point is 00:05:33 from the stands. And then the senior senator from New York said this. I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you've released the whirlwind, and you, you will pay the price. You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.
Starting point is 00:05:58 End quote. Madam President, I'm not sure where to start. Well, let's start with Congresswoman Maxine Waters, who joins us right now on the phone lines. Congresswoman, boy, they made you go through hell when you criticized Trump. Hmm. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Well, thank you very much. And I appreciate Schumer's advocacy and standing up for women. However, he has to understand when I stood up and I resisted this administration and I talked about not welcoming them in any of these places that they should have understood what I was doing and they should have been supporting me they didn't support me and now Schumer has got to understand what it feels like for him to be an advocate and be criticized and be told that he should not have said what he said he
Starting point is 00:06:56 should not have had the tone that he had and of course that's what they were saying about me and instead of joining them he should have been supporting me but he was right on the advocacy issue and standing up for women but what does this also say that again they chose to chastise you but now they want support and cover when he now is catching hell well no i mean that's you you described it accurately and that, he forgets what he said about me. He even went so far as to say un-American. I was shocked and I was surprised.
Starting point is 00:07:32 But I think now he must understand that perhaps he went way too far in criticizing me and that now he's on the ropes because he criticized two of the members of the United States Supreme Court. And now they are attacking him in the way that he attacked me. And yeah, I mean, he went out there and he said, you know, don't harass political opponents. And so he was he goes on the floor and he you know, he's he's taking you to task. And in fact, even tried to suggest that you were inciting violence with your comments. And that is what also angered a lot of people when he did that, sort of this upbraiding.
Starting point is 00:08:19 In fact, do this for me guys, we're gonna go to, I wanna pull this video up because again, he said it and I'm trying to understand doesn't he understand that these things, what goes around comes around? Yeah. And you broke up a little bit except to say
Starting point is 00:08:38 that there were a lot of people who came forward and a lot of black women in particular and they went so far as to me with Nancy Pelosi to say, what are you guys doing? How is it that Maxine Waters is standing up for, you know, democratic principles and calling out this administration, taking on the leadership to talk about why this president should be impeached and you are basically attacking her undermining her in her advocacy people didn't
Starting point is 00:09:11 understand that but I think now Schumer perhaps gets it he understands it because now he's in a position where he is being an advocate for women which we all support and he would never think that he would be attacked for having done that in the way that he did it to me. And, of course, a lot of people out there may not remember what took place on the floor of the U.S. House. But, folks, Henry, go to my iPad. Finally, Mr. President, a word on a different subject.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Here in the Senate, we disagree with one another frequently, and often fervently. I certainly do. Many of us disagree with the policies of the current administration. In a country as large and diverse as ours, politics has always been a noisy, raucous affair, probably even more so today. That's okay. But we all have to remember to treat our fellow Americans, all of our fellow Americans, with the kind of civility and respect we expect will be afforded to us. I strongly
Starting point is 00:10:19 disagree with those who advocate harassing folks if they don't agree with you. If you disagree with someone or something, stand up. Make your voice heard. Explain why you think they're wrong and why you're right. Make the argument. Protest peacefully. If you disagree with a politician, organize your fellow citizens to action and vote them out of office. But no one should call for the harassment of political opponents.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Congresswoman, there are a lot of African Americans who don't let the double standard win. You, Congressman Al Green, win. Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib, Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Congresswoman from New York. When you see all of these people of color, black folks, Latinos, who are always being criticized and chastised by white Democratic leaders,
Starting point is 00:11:13 they need to realize what happens when the shoe's on the other foot. Well, it is so obvious. I mean, it really does not take a Harvard scholar to understand the double standard. understand that he basically was following the kind of leadership that I was given in resisting this administration, resisting a Supreme Court where you have members of the Supreme Court who obviously are puppets of the president of the United States. If he doesn't understand that what he's trying to say is basically what I was saying all along and what I was leading on all along. And now he's under attack the way that he attacked me. Then if he doesn't get that,
Starting point is 00:12:12 he really doesn't understand the fact that we should all be together in supporting each other, because I did not threaten anybody. I simply said, you're not welcome. And now they're saying he's threatening members of the Supreme Court. And so what does he expect in the way of support for him when he didn't give it to me? Well, Congresswoman Waters, you're always welcome on this show.
Starting point is 00:12:37 So call anytime, we love having you on. Thank you so much. I love you, Roland. Thank you, bye-bye. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right, folks, we'll go to our panel. Quadricos Driscoll, adjunct professor at George Washington University,
Starting point is 00:12:47 Dr. Neombe Carter, Department of Political Science, Howard University, and Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor for environmental justice at the EPA. Boy, ain't it interesting when white folks get in trouble. This is Chuck Schumer. He's a peacetime Democrat. He's not an advocate. He's not a fighter.
Starting point is 00:13:04 He's already walked back these comments, and nobody really believed these folks were in danger. I mean, Chief Justice Roberts claimed that this is dangerous. I mean, it's insincere. I mean, Brett Kavanaugh basically said the same thing to Democrats during his confirmation hearings, and there was no uproar about any of this. Our own president said that, you know, attempting to impeach him would be the equivalent of a civil war, right, that would happen. So this kind of language happens all the time, but I think Congresswoman Waters hit on something. It doesn't feel good when she was on the other foot because the same people that you condemned, like her,
Starting point is 00:13:33 who could be there to support you, you told them that what they were doing in being advocates for their community were essentially outside of the purview of their job. So, Tiago, the point that I made to Congresswoman is that there's this constant putting black and brown folks in check. And now, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:13:53 when Republicans are kicking his ass, now he wants black and brown cover. Exactly. You know, privilege is an interesting animal because when people of color speak out, we get vilified in many, many instances. And when others do it, it's seen as, you know, just politics or, you know, the way that the process works. And then when you go against the Supreme Court,
Starting point is 00:14:14 we all know that the Republicans see the Supreme Court as theirs, as this holy institution. So you're definitely going to catch some flack when you do that. So I agree with all the comments that have been made, but looking at the political context, right, I think we saw this with Howard Dean in, I think, 2004 when he sort of made whatever outrageous comments that he did. What did he say? He was like, nah, that.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And the criticism that came as a result of that. But that was also stupid because it was a rally, and he was simply firing the crowd up. And that was in 2004. But my point is, the same level of emotion and excitement, both on the Republican side as well as the Democratic side, we see this play out. And I think we're seeing the politics of it play out
Starting point is 00:15:03 now that it's Schumer, who is the minority leader, and his comments. So I think it basically boils down to this is ridiculous political theater. I think the difference is, however, is that the Democrats always infight, Republicans fall in line. And I think to Congresswoman Walters' point, the Democrats need to actually fall in line and coalesce around the issues and stop Trump in November. But I think the thing of... The part of this, though,
Starting point is 00:15:29 is attacking the Supreme Court is the only thing you really can do, right? They can't be unelected. They're not elected at all. They're there for a lifetime. So this is really the only avenue to advocate with that body. But if Democrats actually do what Republicans do,
Starting point is 00:15:44 which is focus on the judiciary... Look, because that's something they don't do. No, absolutely. First of all, the Supreme Court is not beyond criticism. No, I didn't say that. But I'm just saying, focus on the judiciary. Yeah, but you can also do both at the same time. I mean, you got Donald Trump criticizing Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
Starting point is 00:16:00 criticizing Elena Kagan, criticizing Sonia Sotomayor, and so my whole deal is, kiss my ass, shut the hell up. Agreed. But again, if we're gonna talk about elections and we're gonna talk about winning, one thing the Republicans do, and they do very well, is they frame issues, right?
Starting point is 00:16:15 But that's also why he said, we're coming after you. Right. Because he was talking about... If we could just take that down the ballot and focus on making sure that we elect certain people who agree with our interests and making sure that we stack the judiciary just like the Republicans are stacking the judiciary, the better, as well as criticize.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Bottom line here is black and brown folks who get criticized and put in place by white Democratic leaders then want those same people to cover their behinds. That for me is really what this issue's about, and that's why Councilman Maxine Waters is saying, -"See? See? See what happens when it happens to you?" -"Mm-hmm." Oh! And so, I'm sure, uh, Chuck Schumer's eating some crow, uh, as a result. All right, folks, uh, we talk about, of course,
Starting point is 00:17:01 uh, what happens, uh, last night, uh, on CNN. Lord have mercy. Uh, Nina Turner, of course, who happens. Last night on CNN, Lord have mercy, Nina Turner, of course, who's the co-chair of Bernie Sanders' campaign, got into this huge back and forth with Hillary Rosen, who is, of course, Hillary is with. She's a Biden supporter. And, you know, they were talking about the whole,
Starting point is 00:17:20 you know, the race and going back and forth. But what really made this thing get out of line was when they began to talk about Dr. King and Letter from Birmingham Jail. And let's just say Hillary had some serious issues and then Nina clapped back real quick, real quick. Matter of fact, let me see. I just want to find the right video.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I was going to explain it, but let me just show y'all what happened uh because it was pretty wild here we go you know nina referenced um dr martin luther king before saying that uh he said from the birmingham jail that we should be um concerned about white moderates that's actually not what martin luther king said what he said is we should be worried about the silence of white moderates. Are you kidding me? Nina? She's making a language point. What he said was we should worry about the silence of white moderates. And what we have in Joe Biden is a man who is not silent.
Starting point is 00:18:17 He has a long record and many, many votes that in today's world feel like the wrong thing were the wrong thing. And he has discussed that over and over again, as Bernie Sanders did on the gun votes and other things. So we can be talking about votes from 20 years ago or we can be talking about people's values and who they trust. And that's what Joe Biden is going to be talking about. Last quick point to you nina what the reverend chris what reverend dr monica king jr was talking about he said it is the point that the white moderate wants things to be comfortable and instead of focusing in on that the bigger threat is not necessarily the white uh kkk member but more the white moderate that is more comfortable you know what don't you don't use martin luther king against joe biden you King against Joe Biden. You don't have that standing. I'm sorry. You don't. Don't tell me what kind of standing I have as a black woman in America. How dare you? You have a lot of standing as a black woman in America. You don't have the standing to attack Joe Biden using Martin Luther King's words. I didn't attack anybody. You're taking it that way.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Listen, don't dip into what I have to say about the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. How dare you? No, no, no. I'm not going to own that. That is not what I said. Don't you do that. Nina, Hillary, I'm out of time on this. Chris, I didn't jump in on her, though.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I mean, she wants to jump in on me. First of all, it's not nobody jumping in on anybody. You guys are in the same party. This is what you guys have to figure out. You're in the same party. And let me tell you, you better keep that same energy when you're up against Trump that you have against each other. Because he is bigger and badder than I think you guys are ready for. But let's agree on this about Dr. King.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Only light can drive out dark first of all Really Chris I I can't I love it how we always looking for this consummate. Dr. King quote to wrap everything up So here's what happened y'all Henry go to my iPad Hillary this morning after she got her ass lit up on social media, I'm talking about lit up, she tweeted, knew I needed to apologize. I unequivocally know I disrespected her and I wanted to make it right by telling disgusted white folks to stop.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Wow, did that tweet go wrong? I am so sorry. I've called Nina to apologize directly. Whether or not she takes my call, I am still humbly sorry." Now, last night I saw the exchange and I text Nina and I was like, wow, that was interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:06 I said, see now Hillary gonna make me go out and get my, and actually on the counter in my kitchen, I actually had my copies of Why We Can't Wait, as well as Dr. King's book, Chaos or Community, Where Do We Go From Here? And so what I did last night was pull that up. And what was interesting is that the letters from the Birmingham jail folks was about nearly 7,000 words 7,000 words silence was used
Starting point is 00:21:31 one time King said the silence of good people seven or eight times in that speech he was very specific a bite about the white moderate in fact if you read Kings book chaos or community where do we go from here, you will see that there are a number of passages in that book where he talks about the white moderate, who they sided with, who they were with. Now, part of the issue here is that you have a Hillary Rosen who is white,
Starting point is 00:21:58 who's like, I dare you, I dare you call Joe Biden, you know, this white moderate. But here's the deal though, that Hillary Rosen has to understand. If you go back and early in Joe Biden's career, that's exactly what he was. Joe Biden was one of the people who gave comfort to the two segregationists, who aligned with the likes of Strom Thurmond and Jim Eastland in the United States Senate, OK, who fought busing as well. If you read Bob Brown's book, he talked about how Nixon quietly ushered in busing to avoid some of the drama that was taking place. And so history is history. Now, just because Joe Biden, you say today is different than Joe Biden in the early 1970s.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It doesn't negate who the Joe Biden was in the early 1970s. The other thing is this here. And y'all have heard me say this, I really need white people. If you're going to quote Dr. King, stop trying to quote Dr. King in a way that fits your narrative and deal with the radical Dr. King that we all knew he was. See, that's part of the problem that I think you see here
Starting point is 00:23:10 with a lot of people who go through this. What they do is that they want to find this one little quote. Dr. King said this, versus looking at in totality what he said. King wrote in KSL community that whites were far more comfortable aligning
Starting point is 00:23:28 with segregationists after the Black Freedom Movement than they were with freedom for Black folks. He talked about in that particular book, which I said to y'all every person should have a copy of that book on their shelf. It's a phenomenal book because he lays out in that
Starting point is 00:23:44 book how the white moderate did not truly understand the history of racism and white supremacy in this country. And then he even said that they were not prepared to even deal with that particular history. See, that's what happens all too often when all these conversations take place because you got folks who really don't want to look at that expansive Dr. King. In fact, this is what I wrote. MLK wrote in Chaos World Community,
Starting point is 00:24:18 Negroes were heated, especially the fact that many whites felt that the Negroes had gained so much. That was one. This is a keen quote. White Americans left the Negro on the ground and in devastating numbers walked off with the aggressor. It appeared that the white segregationists
Starting point is 00:24:34 and the ordinary white citizen had more in common with one another than either had with the Negro. He also wrote, he said in here, again, as he went through this whole deal, he said that, we will have to repent in this generation, not merely for the hateful words and actions
Starting point is 00:24:55 of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people. That's where he used the word silence in Letter from Birmingham Jail. Then he also said, again, on seven different occasions, talked about white moderates. And so this continues to happen all the time,
Starting point is 00:25:10 which is why I hate when MLK birthday come up, when people stay in there, Dr. King wanted us to all get along and wanted us to hold hands and wanted us to love one another. He was a man of peace and pro... No, no, no. He was a radical voice who called out white moderates
Starting point is 00:25:27 specifically for their inability to confront their white supremacy and their white privilege. That, Mustafa, is what... As I was watching that, and which is why Hillary had to backtrack because black women were all in her ass after that exchange.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Nina's a force, and Hillary should have known better than to even go there. And, you know, for me, there was a phone call that probably happened last night from the vice president saying, you know what, I got traction right now with black folks. Shut the hell up. And you messing it up. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And Dr. King was a revolutionary. If you remember, the early church leaders did not want to get down because his ideas and his actions were so revolutionary. Roy Wilkins, the head of the NAACP, called Dr. King a radical in 1959. Exactly. So, you know, for folks...
Starting point is 00:26:15 And here, let's just have some real talk. We know that moderate policies have been devastating to our communities because they don't move the needle. And that's why you have to have revolutionaries who are willing and able to push to make real change actually happen. And that's the reason that progressives scare folks so much also.
Starting point is 00:26:32 And, Iambi, in KSO Communique, Dr. King talked about very few white voices who are willing to go all the way when it came to the issue of black freedom. And what happens here, and again, first of all, when you tell a black woman she don't have the standing, black people take MLK
Starting point is 00:26:49 real personal when somebody white tells them that. Well, I mean, Hillary Rosen did what white women often do to women of color, which is be quiet, right?
Starting point is 00:26:56 Don't make us uncomfortable and don't say anything we don't like. But what I really want us to get back to is this isn't just about misquoting Martin Luther King and picking and choosing the pieces.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Even Bernie Sanders in calling for Hillary Rosen and Joe Biden to rebuke this couldn't say anti-black racism, couldn't say black people. He said, this is offensive to Nina Turner and people of color. And I think that's a problem because even for the white progressive,
Starting point is 00:27:19 you can't just say what it is. There was a problem with this white woman telling this black woman that she could not claim this black man and his words in talking about what she sees as her vision for her politics going forward. And you can't even say that as a candidate she was defending. I think it's really rich that you have two women sort of battling it out and using this black man to talk about two white men who will ultimately assume the office.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I think that is actually even a perversion of Martin Luther King to a certain extent. But I think it's a real moment, right, where we see how whiteness, even in all of its liberalness, its progressiveness, still can't really deal with anti-blackness in any real way. And, Quadrinkos, the reality is this here, and this is where, for African Americans,
Starting point is 00:28:01 when you talk about this return on investment, it's real clear. Bruh, you don't have, you're not where you are without black people. Right. It's just like there were some people who, too, they were like, Roland, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:12 you're too aggressive with Obama. I said, I'm sorry. This is called a return on investment. That's what happens. And so, absolutely, Joe Biden, like I said already, Joe Biden wins. First and foremost,
Starting point is 00:28:29 he should say, all right, when I'm being made Speaker of the House, I mean, because the bottom line is it's a return on investment. And I think what happens all the time, man, is that there's this sort of attitude like thank you very much, but now they're going to take it from here. It's like, no, we have to push the white moderate
Starting point is 00:28:48 to become a white radical on these issues. Right, we have to continue to push, unfortunately, white people in general to understand these issues. But you're absolutely right. I mean, the first thing that Biden needs to do, A, well, assuming that he will be the nominee, right, is appoint a black woman as his vice president,
Starting point is 00:29:08 take care of his promise of supporting a black woman on the Supreme Court, and quite possibly position James Clyburn in a higher position in the House. He owes his candidacy at present to black people, particularly black women.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And not that created position to allow him to be in the leadership because we all know that actually there are three positions and that is the Speaker of the House, that is the House Majority Leader, and that's the whip. And that's the reality. Exactly. And so, you know, again,
Starting point is 00:29:36 so when you saw this whole back and forth, you know, you have this whole effort where, okay, we know, we got to protect Biden or protect Sanders. Like, no, no, no. We can have an honest conversation about who they are. We can have an honest conversation about language that they use and not be afraid to say,
Starting point is 00:29:55 I need you to stop using such language. White people can't have such honest conversations, right? Because in many respects, it's white guilt, it's their white privilege, and whatever else that they're sort of suffering with. And so we have to continue to push the mark, unfortunately. But I've been saying this for quite some time, we really need allies. And unfortunately, we don't have the same level of allies because of this contentious issue of race in our country that, say, the gay community had, which is why they're sort of certainly more mainstream.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And we're still arguing for equalization of blackness and for normalization of blackness. And it's quite sad that in 2020 that we're still having this sort of conversation. But we have to be the moral exemplars like King to continue to push our leaders and to ensure that there's equity across the board. Fundamentally, we need to trust black women on these. I think, well, first of all, here's the deal. We got to trust black women and black men. No, and the reason I say black women and black men, because guess what? When Doug Jones ran in Alabama, he got 96% of the black female vote.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Right. And he got 93% of the black male vote. The deal is, it's very simple. In this country, white America has always needed to be made to feel comfortable when we talk about race. We have to qualify, back it up, hold up,
Starting point is 00:31:14 let me sort of fashion it this way. It's supposed to say, no. Look, understand. I dealt with that. I remember I was filling in for Campbell Brown at CNN and we were discussing a story to do. And what happens is,
Starting point is 00:31:31 is when I'm processing, when I'm processing, when I'm actually visualizing going through, I'll sit there and I'll cross my arms and I'm looking off at a spot and I'm thinking, and I'm thinking. Now I'm not smiling and everything. I'm just sitting there and I'm like, but I'm looking off at a spot and I'm thinking, and I'm thinking, now I'm not smiling and everything,
Starting point is 00:31:46 I'm just sitting there and I'm like, but I'm thinking. So I get called into the office, and so it was two white male producers. And they go, you know, that was a little uncomfortable. I was like, I said, oh, no, no, no, no, no. We are not about to have a thinking while black conversation. I said, no, that, no, no, no, no. We are not about to have a thinking while black conversation. I said, no, that's not about to happen. And so I would often challenge their whiteness in their face,
Starting point is 00:32:12 and they had a problem with that. I remember another white executive, it was executive producer, told me that, you know what, you know, I think you really need to step back and realize the opportunity that you've been given. And it was a very paternalistic conversation. And I said, Scott, let me explain something to you. I got five revenue streams, and y'all are number three.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Meaning there are two that are higher than you. I said, now, if this ends, I got four more. I said, and I had an interview with Daryl Strawberry that they wouldn't run. I said, fine, I'm going to run on my show. And it was kind of like, I'm like, yes, that's why I have my other show on TV One. And it was this whole deal of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up.
Starting point is 00:33:00 He's making decisions. And he's actually rebuffing and he's not being appreciative of what we're providing. And I told him, I said, I've run three black newspapers. I said, CNN is not better than places I've run. And so I was willing to challenge whiteness.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And then other black people at CNN were like, yeah, Roland too radical. And there were black people who would say, yeah, but you benefiting from Roland's radicalness because he's in there swinging on these white folks and you quiet, but you gonna benefit from how he's swinging. And the deal is too many of us are afraid in those spaces.
Starting point is 00:33:42 I don't wanna upset nothing. And it was like, look, I'm going to get fired anyway. You know, so that's just how I started every job anyway. But, I mean, look at Chris Comer, though, right? He was going to tell Nina what Hillary Rosen was trying to tell her. Right. And she's like, I just heard what she said. And I know what he said.
Starting point is 00:33:57 I know what I was quoting. I knew the conversation. And I think that's the stuff that happens. That's, I mean, that's what's really angering. We can bicker back and forth, but you're going to tell me, and then you have this white man who still feels the stuff that happens. That's, I mean, that's what's really angering. We can bicker back and forth, but you're gonna tell me, and then you have this white man who still feels the need to defend, right?
Starting point is 00:34:09 When you have two very capable women having clearly a disagreement, and yeah, it can get boisterous, but she was saying what she needed to say. And what Chris should have done was say, Hillary, allow Nina to finish. Exactly. Nina, when you finish your point,
Starting point is 00:34:23 Hillary, y'all go ahead. And it was her last point, right? She had the last word, and she still got cut off and didn't get to say what she wanted to finish. Nina, when you finish your point, Hillary, y'all go ahead. And it was her last point, right? She had the last word and she still got cut off and didn't get to say what she wanted to say. We have to realize how powerful we truly are. You see, we still keep operating from this 18th century, 19th century sort of mindset. We need to reclaim who we are because we are going to be the majority. Black and brown people are going to be the majority in this country. people are gonna be the majority in this country. So, going back to what we talked about before, you know, the three positions you all talked about,
Starting point is 00:34:49 but we should be making demands. So, there are a number of folks who are going to be in these departments and in these agencies. So, we need to start framing out who are the folks who are gonna sit in these positions of power. That's it. So, don't be afraid to be black. That's all I'm saying. don't be afraid to be black. That's all I'm saying. Don't be afraid to be black. And that's actually
Starting point is 00:35:09 important for so many of us. Alright, folks, coronavirus is how huge is this? South by Southwest, they canceled the entire festival as a result of so many advertisers dropping out due to the coronavirus. And so, there's all kind of stuff out there donald
Starting point is 00:35:25 trump he don't know what the hell he talking about talking about how he afraid to touch his face we got video of him touching his face uh but right now family medicine physician that's jen carlton joins us right now and doc how you doing so can you explain to us really what the hell this virus is can we can we shake hands can we fist bump can we hug people i I mean, I swear, the whole nation, the world got the cooties. Well, actually, Roland, to be honest with you, this is actually a very serious situation. I think a lot of people were calling it a hoax in the beginning
Starting point is 00:35:55 and saying, is this a conspiracy by the government, by different organizations? It is not. First thing I want to say is this is very, very real. And to your point, it's an infectious virus. This is a virus that we hadn't seen before. We're seeing it now.
Starting point is 00:36:14 It's a virus that typically lived in animals, and now we've seen it kind of transfer to humans. We have never seen this in us, in humans, before. That's why we keep calling it the novel coronavirus. It's also one of the reasons why there's a lot we just don't know. And if it seems like every single day on the news, we're hearing new things, we're shocked every single day we wake up, we're being surprised, it's because it's actually very genuine. We don't know much about how this virus behaves. However, let me say to your point, you asked about how our behavior should change. Yes, our behavior should change. I'm advocating for no handshaking. I'm not shaking any hands right now. I'm fist bumping. I'm elbow bumping. I'm advocating for no handshaking. I'm not shaking
Starting point is 00:36:45 any hands right now. I'm fist bumping. I'm elbow bumping. I'm throwing up the peace sign. I'm doing whatever, but I'm not shaking hands. And I'll be honest with you, things like large gatherings and stuff, it's important to avoid those, especially older individuals who have a higher risk of developing complications. I'm actually even urging preachers to, you know, during the passing of the peace time at church, you know, don't encourage handshaking. This is my personal stance, and I really believe it's important. We can throw up the peace sign in church. We can say, hey, man, hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:37:12 We don't have to shake hands. These things are really important during this time. Absolutely. All right. Are we supposed to be wearing masks? No. Absolutely not. So, people... And you'll see them. I mean, I'm still flying these days. I know you have a crazy schedule. I'm a fly. I ain't stopping. Right. I know. But this is the thing. Masks are not indicated. We see the surgical masks. Those are the ones
Starting point is 00:37:41 that go around our face that loop around here. And then the N95 respirators, those are the ones that are more form-fitting that have to be fit to your face. By the way, both of those are not indicated for the general population who is healthy. In fact, when we buy masks, we go and buy them on Amazon and stuff like that. We're really just keeping them from people who need them, okay? The people who need them are healthcare workers, number one. Number two, people who are already sick right now, either with coronavirus or with something else that they're trying to keep from giving other people. These are the only populations right now in this country that need to be wearing masks. So people leave the masks alone. They're not going to help if you're healthy. All right. We keep saying they keep saying wash your hands. How many damn times?
Starting point is 00:38:21 What? Every two hours, every three hours, every four hours. What's the deal? OK. Washing hands is so important. And, you know, I know it sounds almost like common sense. It really should be. But there are a lot of people, actually, who do not wash their hands regularly. We should be washing our hands before we eat, after we eat, when we prepare food for other people, after using the restroom, when we're taking care of other folks. We should be washing our hands, honestly, throughout the day. You touch doorknobs and elevator buttons and
Starting point is 00:38:45 all sorts of stuff, you shouldn't then go get lunch and start eating. You need to wash your hands. Okay? We need to make sure that we're using... But I'm trying to figure out how often. There's no number. Look, there's no magic number. Everybody's different. Everybody does different things. It's 24 hours in a day.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I'm just saying, what am I supposed to be doing? So, is it... I mean, like, how often am I washing hands? If I touch any door, go wash hands? No, no, no. So I'm going to mention the things I just said because it's really important. Before we eat, after we eat, if we're preparing food for other people,
Starting point is 00:39:20 after going to the bathroom, if you've been touching a lot of things, you've been out and about, you come home, wash your hands. There is no magic number. I can't say, Roland, we have to wash our hands 20 times a day. That's going to be different for everybody, depending on what you've been in contact with, what you've been exposed
Starting point is 00:39:36 to. Alright, hand sanitizer. Does it actually work? I keep seeing alcohol content needs to be above 60%. How often should we be using hand sanitizer? Yeah, hand sanitizer. And does hand sanitizer replace washing hands? Okay, so we want you to wash your hands first.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Washing hands is actually the priority. It's the, say, the most important way to get our hands clean. But if you don't have access to soap and water, and by the way, you should be washing your hands 20 seconds with soap and water, scrubbing. 20 seconds is all in the case to sing the happy birthday song twice. You said scrubbing. So should we be kidding around? A little brush?
Starting point is 00:40:13 And are we scrubbing? I mean, are we just sitting here just washing? Just sitting here washing, as you say. But with the soap on our hands, you get between the fingers, you get underneath the nail, you make sure you keep that soap on there long enough for 20 seconds. That's singing the happy birthday song twice back to back.
Starting point is 00:40:30 That's about 20 seconds, then rinse. But back to your question. Dan, does Stevie want a happy birthday song? Say that again? Dan, does Stevie want a happy birthday song? That'd take longer. Well, you're going to have to do an abridged version that lasts about 20 seconds. How about that?
Starting point is 00:40:44 All right. Hand sanitizer. Let me answer this real quickly before we jump off. Hand sanitizer is good if you don't have access to soap and water. But remember, if your hands have grease or oil or dirt on them, hand sanitizer will not work in soap and water. But you need a hand sanitizer that has at least 60% alcohol content, like you mentioned. But the higher higher the better. And remember, I just noticed this. My hand sanitizers, they actually have expiration
Starting point is 00:41:09 dates on them. So check the expiration dates and don't be using old, crusty hand sanitizer. All right, last question. I can't deal with ash. So if I wash my hands and I use hand sanitizer, can a brother put on some lotion? Yes, you can put on lotion. I'm just checking. It's okay. And by the way, different hand sanitizers are made differently in terms of the alcohol content and the other ingredients. So if you shop around, you might find one that doesn't make it too ashy. All right. Dr. Jane Connell, it's really appreciated. Thanks a lot. Thank you. All right, folks, we're going to go to a break. When we come back, we're going to talk to Deborah
Starting point is 00:41:42 Owens about coronavirus and how it's impacting the stock market. You're for one K. And should you be taking advantage of this when it comes to buying stocks? That's next right here on Roller Martin Unfiltered. To me, there are no greater patriots in America's long history than the black citizens who are willing to die for a nation that was denying them their rights. Mike Bloomberg is the only Democratic presidential candidate that has a real plan to fight for those sacrifices that have been taken for granted for far too long. And I've got to think it was in hopes that their service and sacrifice might redeem those rights for their children and grandchildren.
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Starting point is 00:43:10 Like, share, subscribe to our YouTube channel. That's youtube.com forward slash Roland S. Martin. And don't forget to turn on your notifications so when we go live, you'll know it. All right, so a lot of y'all always asking me about some of the pocket squares that I wear. Now, I don't, and Robby don't have one on. Now, I don't particularly like the white pocket squares. I don't like even the silk ones. And so I was reading GQ Magazine a number of years ago
Starting point is 00:43:37 and I saw this guy who had this pocket square here and it looks like a flower. This is called a shibori pocket square. This is how the Japanese manipulate the fabric to create this sort of flower effect. So I'm going to take it out and then place it in my hand so you see what it looks like. And I said, man, this is pretty cool. And so I tracked down, it took me a year to find a company that did it. And so they make about 47 different colors. And so I love them because, again, as men, we don't have many accessories to wear. So we don't have many options.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And so this is really a pretty cool pocket screen. And what I love about this here is you saw when it's in the pocket, you know, it gives you that flower effect like that. But if I wanted to also, unlike other, because if I flip it and turn it over it actually gives me a different type of texture and so therefore it gives me a different look so there you go so if you actually want to get one of these shibori pocket squares we have them in 47 different colors all you got to do is go to rollinglessmartin.com forward slash pocket squares so it's rollinglessmartin.com forward slash pocket squares all you got to do is go to my website uh and you can actually get this now for those of you who are members of our
Starting point is 00:44:50 bring the funk fan club there's a discount for you to get our pocket squares that's why you also got to be a part of our bring the funk fan club uh and so that's what we want you to do and so it's pretty cool so if you want to jazz your look up you you can do that. In addition, y'all see me with some of the feather pocket squares. My sister was a designer. She actually makes these. They're all custom made. So when you also go to the website, you can also order one of the customized feather pocket squares right there at rollingnessmartin.com forward slash pocket squares. So please do so. And of course, that goes to support the show. And again, if you're a Bring the Funk fan club member, you get a discount.
Starting point is 00:45:28 This is why you should join the fan club. As I said, folks, South by Southwest, the major show in Austin, Texas, has been canceled as a result of the coronavirus. The travel industry could be impacted by more than $100 billion. Conferences and cruises and all kinds of events all across the world are being canceled. The stock market, my Lord, down 4,000 points, wiping out the last two years.
Starting point is 00:45:57 So what the hell do we do? Do we freak out or do we sit tight and take advantage of the crisis? Joining us right now is Debra Owens, America's Wealth Coach. Debra, how you doing? I'm doing great. Alright, so 4,000 points. Gone. Last two years. Donald Trump is freaking the hell out because he wanted
Starting point is 00:46:18 to run on the economy. He first told us, oh, this coronavirus is no big deal. You have to go to work. Now he couldn't go to the CDC in Atlanta because somebody there had the coronavirus. So this thing is real, and actually it is spreading in the United States. It's spreading, but what I say, Roland, is let's not panic.
Starting point is 00:46:35 The truth is that... When folks can die from something, panic gonna happen. Well, panic will happen, but the truth is that we've had all kinds of things happen in this country, and we've had the market be volatile. At the end of the day, what people need to understand is that the market was pretty much due for a correction. And so while all of you, everybody I talk to, oh, yes, I'm an aggressive investor, Well, are you? Because this is what you should anticipate if you have, let's say, 70% of your money in stocks.
Starting point is 00:47:10 You should be prepared to see that investment go down by 60% in one year. Historically, that's what happens. However, I said, and even with a balanced portfolio where you only have 50% in stocks or 50% in bonds, you should be ready to see your investment value go down by, in some cases, 30% in one year. The issue becomes that I just said go down. I said decline. You haven't lost anything until you sell and and what really disheartens me sometimes in our
Starting point is 00:47:47 community because many of us are investing in our 401ks and we are basically choosing target funds or whatever the allocation is based on our age we have no clue about what's in our investments or how to review them so I like to give people strategies. And those strategies right now, just like you have the three R's in education, you have the four R's in financial education. All right, what are those four R's?
Starting point is 00:48:15 This is what people need to be doing. The first thing they need to do is reassess. And when I say reassess, you thought you were an aggressive investor or you thought you were okay with your money going down. Are you? Probably not. So the fact is that your money has probably appreciated and you have more in stocks than you started out with when you started. Right. So let's just say you were three years ago. Your portfolio went up significantly. And so now you're sort of out of balance.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Now you need to really look at, okay, how much should I have in stocks? Right. And how much should I have in bonds? The second thing I want to say is review what you have. So many people are on autopilot. They don't even know what they have in their portfolio. So if I got a mutual fund, I need to review what's in it?
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yes, you need to review what's in it. One of the easiest way to do that, Roland, is to go to Morningstar.com, which ranks mutual funds. And what they do is they rank mutual funds from one to five stars. It might so happen that your funds were doing well at one time, but they're not. So you want to make sure your funds are at four stars or more.
Starting point is 00:49:25 What's the website? Morningstar? Morningstar.com. All right. The next thing you want to do is you want to research. And so you're going to research at Morningstar.com, and you're going to look at how your investments perform in up and down markets, and you're going to... Because they have what's called a beta,
Starting point is 00:49:44 and it'll tell you... I'm not going's called a beta, and it'll tell you... I'm not going to get too technical, but it basically tells you about volatility. And so if this makes you uncomfortable, now's the time to look at some funds, perhaps, that aren't volatile. And then last but not least, the last thing that folks need to do is reassess.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Okay, so I just gave you three other hours. Now you're going to look at your, or excuse me, rebalance your portfolio. Okay. So how much should you have in stocks? How much should you have in bonds? How much should you have in cash? For most people, their money's in their 401k. It's retirement money. You should still be somewhat in, you should still be somewhat in, you should still be in growth mode. And in fact, what I would encourage folks to do is now's the time perhaps to, if you do invest in individual stocks, to take a look at what are some of those companies
Starting point is 00:50:35 who have fallen, okay, just based on panic. And yet what makes the stocks price go up? Are there earnings, their future growth and all of that so i look at this in many cases as an opportunity uh for folks you know hey stocks are on sale so okay you brought that to the store when things are on sale but i do say proceed with caution and do your homework so i'm trying okay so you said you go to morningstar to figure out how your fund is doing right so where can we go to, so you said you go to Morningstar to figure out how your fund is doing. Right. So where... Kimmy, go to my iPad.
Starting point is 00:51:06 So you go to Morningstar.com. Right. Right, and so name one of your funds. Ariel. So which fund? So if you put Ariel... Right in the search box? Yeah, right in the search box.
Starting point is 00:51:17 It's gonna come up with five letters. All mutual funds have five letters in their ticker symbol. Right, right. Okay? And so if you put that fund in, name in, funds have five letters in their ticker symbol. If you put that fund in, name in, it'll come up with a ticker and it'll take you to a portfolio review page. Right up at the
Starting point is 00:51:36 top, what you're going to see is how your fund... Ah. I don't know which one it is. I got you when I get home. This aerial fund investor has two stars. Okay, yes. That sucks? Is that great? Uh, two out of five. Okay, that
Starting point is 00:51:51 ain't halfway point. You know, like, you know, it is what it is. But here's what they're driving, what's driving those stars, okay? What's driving those stars are what type of fund is it? And is that fund performing at least as well as its index? Meaning, you know, if it's a large cap fund that has the S&P 500
Starting point is 00:52:13 stocks in it, is your fund performing at least with that benchmark? It needs to overperform it though, because if that's the case, you might as well be at an index fund the other thing it looks at is in its category what type how is that fund performing versus other funds just like it how is it ranked all right so if i got a fund and sitting around at one or two stars you need my money you need to you need to yeah you need to rebalance yeah you need to okay when you say rebalance it means move your money somewhere else money right so you need to... Okay, when you say rebalance, that means move your money somewhere else. You need to move your money, right. So you need to look at where are the other opportunities, where are the funds that have consistently performed and have a four- or five-star ranking. That's one of the first things you should do in your portfolio.
Starting point is 00:52:54 So shouldn't your financial advisor also be giving you that advice? Absolutely. That's what you pay him for. Or her. Or her. But what I would say is that... Mine is here right now.
Starting point is 00:53:05 So why you gonna put me on front street like that, Roland? Toy Salter, you ain't send me a damn email, a phone call. You ain't done shit. Not a damn thing. Toy Salter. T-O-I-S-A-L-T-E-R. Why does he put...
Starting point is 00:53:23 You have not given me any... Toy, when the show is over, you are going to do your damn job. That's... No. Your job is to advise. That's not my job. Hey, y'all, that is your job.
Starting point is 00:53:38 That is your job now. Oh, my. Yes, y'all, she's black. So is that why you invited me on the show today? No, we need to have this conversation. The people out there don't know. Y'all got any questions? Y'all got questions?
Starting point is 00:53:54 No, I got you. You got questions? No, I'm good. Y'all good? I'm good. Have y'all rebalanced? Hell no. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I bought. I bought. You bought? I bought, yes. When? OK, that's good. Thursday, Wednesday. Wednesday. Because like if you look at the- You know, one no. I bought. Huh? I bought. You bought? I bought, yes. When? Okay, that's good. Thursday, Wednesday, Wednesday. You know, one last thing. Because here on Morningstar, Debra, I'm looking on here.
Starting point is 00:54:11 These health stocks, one of them was up 48%. Another was up 12%. Oil went down 10%. They're going to cut production because of demand. But General Electric down 6.5%. Bank of America down 4%. But again, there's one health stock up 12.62. One is up 43.78.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yes, but okay, let's talk about that. That is short-term volatility, right? And so that's demand. People saying, oh, where's the opportunity? Healthcare, who's going to come up with the cure or the vaccine for coronavirus? At the end of the day, what people need to do is most people are in mutual funds.
Starting point is 00:54:53 If they follow those four steps that we just talked about this evening, they'll be fine in the long run. All right, sounds good. We'll get more information, Deborah. They can go to my website, DeborahOwens.com. And by the way, if they want to get a free CD on investing in viable times that goes over these principles, they just go to DebraOwens.com, Uncertain Times. All right. Debra sounds good.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Certainly appreciate it. Toy, you got some work to do. Go on to a break. We'll be back in a moment. We'll be back in a moment. Mike Bloomberg is the only Democratic presidential candidate who understands that wealth creation and the current racial wealth gap is linked to past racism and has a plan to address the impact on black America. The crimes against black Americans still echo across the centuries and no single law can wipe out that slate clean. The time has come, I think, to fully commit ourselves to acknowledging our
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Starting point is 00:57:04 to daily living. To register, go to livetolead.com forward slash Leesburg. The website is, what website y'all? It's supposed to be right here. www.livetolead.com forward slash Leesburg. All right, y'all. So we talked about coronavirus. That fool out of Florida, Matt Gaetz,
Starting point is 00:57:25 do y'all realize this fool actually sat on the floor of Congress with a gas mask on while he voted on a bill that would dedicate billions, $8.3 billion, to combating coronavirus. Now, he later wore the mask, again, onto the House floor, Congressman Bobby Rush, compared to the time he wore a hoodie in the aftermath of the death of Trayvon Martin to make a statement about racial profiling,
Starting point is 00:57:46 but he was forcibly removed from the floor. Hmm. What does it say when a brother with a hoodie, forcibly removed, and this dumbass with a gas mask is allowed to sit there like it's no big deal? What did my brother say early on the show? It's something being privileged and white, right?
Starting point is 00:58:04 And I think we're seeing it something being privileged and white, right? And I think we're seeing it in the House of Representatives, right? It's the same thing playing out even within the very halls of power, that you have a black man who gets up there and legitimately gives a speech on the floor to symbolize the tragedy of what happened to Trayvon Martin. But then you have this younger white member of Congress who... Who's a nut. Is a nut. Crazy conservative. Ridiculously wears a gas mask.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And is not removed. Now, objectively, I could say, well, the difference is Congressman Rush was actually given a speech on the floor and Representative, what's his name, Matt Gantz... Yeah, but remember, if you're a woman, you can't even wear hats on the floor. Right. Paducah Wilson, who normally wears these cowboy hats, can't wear a hat on the floor. Alma Adams, yes.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So, but we know that's not the case. Right? It fundamentally boils down yet once again to race and privilege. And then also, aren't we supposed to not be afraid right now? Aren't we supposed to not be panicking? Yet this is coming from the floor. Right. And so we're supposed to be out here in the public being calmly told that this is not going to turn into a thing. Yet you have someone ostensibly one of the safest places they can be wearing a full gas mask.
Starting point is 00:59:19 So, I mean, I think this is, you know, par for the course when we're talking about Congress, when we're talking about how they treat black members, how they treat other members. I mean, this is, you know, not surprising, but I think nonetheless upsetting because, you know, when white people go full white people on you, it's hard to not take notice. And I think this is one, yet one more example, right? We can add this up there with the Chuck Schumer
Starting point is 00:59:41 and the Hillary Rosen of the day. I mean, for Congressman Rush, it wasn't theater. It was the reality of what was going on in the streets, you know, in our relationship with those who have guns, primarily the policemen. But for the gentleman, and I use that word lightly, from Florida, this is theater. And this is a time when he should actually be getting focused
Starting point is 01:00:02 on the vulnerable communities that are actually inside of his district, who are inside of Florida, who will be the ones who will be disproportionately impacted from the virus. And he should be dedicating resources to make sure that they are being supported and that the foundation is actually underneath of them. And that's the conversation that we should be having. Yeah, but remember, we did say Congressman Dumbass Matt Davis. We did. Just Davis. We did. Just saying.
Starting point is 01:00:26 We did. All right, y'all, the Sanders campaign has dropped this new ad featuring Dr. Cornel West imploring folks to vote for him. Check it out. We'll talk about it. We're living at a moment where the very future of democracy is at stake. So this is no ordinary campaign. This is a movement that has
Starting point is 01:00:52 a spiritual and moral coming together. Strong coming together. It's part of the genius of Hebrew scripture. I don't care if you're Muslim. I don't care if you're Muslim. I don't care if you're Christian. I don't care if you're Jewish. I don't care if you're Buddhist, Hindu. It says the spreading of chesed, the spreading of that steadfast love to the orphan, the widow, the fatherless, the motherless, the oppressed, the occupied, the dominated.
Starting point is 01:01:23 It's rooted in the best of America, but it looks to the world and it says a precious baby in Ethiopia, in Guatemala. It could be in Tel Aviv or Gaza. It could be in Argentina. It could be in New Hampshire. They all have the same value. They all have the same value, they all have the same significance. That's a moral and a spiritual dimension, and I thank God my dear brother Bernie Sanders has got the integrity, the courage, the vision to bring us together and say, not a milquetoast
Starting point is 01:02:04 neoliberal running against the gangster. We've got to have moral and spiritual power behind our movement. Are we going to stay together? Are we going to fight together? Are we going to go all the way together behind Bernie Sanders? Let's go! Let's go. All right, Nyambe.
Starting point is 01:02:34 I mean, look, I guess it's fine. I don't know who it's supposed to be for. I don't know that it's going to bring in older black voters into the fold. And I actually think it's an interesting week for Bernie Sanders because he put out that Obama ad on Monday, which had a very... Wednesday, I think it was,
Starting point is 01:02:49 had a very different feel to it than this particular ad. And given that Cornel West was one of Barack Obama's chief critics at a time, I think it's a really interesting contrast in ads, and I'm not certain what Bernie Sanders' black strategy is at this point. Are you trying to put yourself next to the most establishment black Democrat that you could find, Barack Obama, also one of the most beloved?
Starting point is 01:03:09 And then you pick Cornel West at the end of the week. I'm not certain what this is going to mean as a communication strategy. I don't know what it does. I don't know who knew it brings it to the fold. I don't know that Cornel West has enough of that to pull older black voters. Quadrico. I'm in agreement. I think Bernie Sanders said on MSNBC with Rachel Maddow
Starting point is 01:03:29 that he very well is, in so many words, he's not necessarily going after the black vote because he necessarily can't compete with James Clyburn and Clinton and the fact that Joe Biden was Obama's VP. So to your point, I think while Cornel West is the focal point, I think this ad continues to appeal to his same supporters. And that is, you know, activists, progressive whites, certainly, and there are activists and progressive blacks and Latinos and Asians. And so when I look at that ad, while it's great in some ways,
Starting point is 01:04:05 it certainly doesn't get to the demographic of black folk that he's trying to attract. Santiago, he dropped this ad, but he also canceled his speech in Mississippi with the mayor of Jackson, Mississippi, Chocó La Mumba, to go campaign in Michigan. I mean, and that says a lot. I mean, you know, we know where a lot of black folks is at. So black folks is in Mississippi. Black folks vote in Michigan. I mean, and that says a lot. I mean, you know, we know where a lot of black folks is
Starting point is 01:04:25 at. So black folks is in Mississippi. Black folks vote in Mississippi. We've said about every candidate during this season that you got to show up, you know, and you got to be there if you want people's vote. I have a huge amount of respect for Professor West. I appreciate him sharing all these various things that are going on in our country and across the planet. But I'm not sure if this ad helps to expand the base. And I literally when I saw it, I was just like this. All right. We'll see. We'll see. Mike Bloomberg is the only Democratic presidential candidate that has a real plan for black youth and education.
Starting point is 01:05:04 It's called the Greenwood Initiative. We'll make public college tuition free for all low-income students. We'll forgive college loans for students who were exploited by failed for-profit colleges. Mike knows investing in our teachers is investing in our children. We'll also recruit more black and Latino teachers as we did in New york city because studies show they can make all the difference and we'll also invest much more in heavily historically black colleges and universities because many of the hbcus are struggling and the first step to achieving generational wealth is taken in the classroom we'll incentivize state and localities to create financial literacy classes mike will get it done visit MikeForBlackAmerica.com to learn more.
Starting point is 01:05:47 There are concrete proposals that we can afford and that we can get done, and we will. I'm Mike Bloomberg, and I approve this message. Paid for by Mike Bloomberg 2020. In Chicago, two cops responsible for shooting 33-year-old Ario Roman have had their police powers stripped. Last Friday, Roman was stopped by officers for crossing cars on a train, which is a violation of a city ordinance. The officers chased Roman to the platform of the Grand Red Line station.
Starting point is 01:06:14 They wrestled him to the ground, tased him, pepper-sprayed him, before shooting him twice. Be warned, folks, this video can be triggering to a lot of you. So here we go. Give me your hand. I didn't even bring fabric. I didn't even let you. Go see Wi-Fi, man. I didn't do nothing to you. Don't see why I'm bothering you. I didn't do nothing to you. Seventh-degree bathroom.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I didn't do nothing to you. Seventh-degree bathroom. I don't want to hurt you. Seventh-degree bathroom. Suda! Suda! Five-three, five-three. Shoot him. No, no, no, no. Shoot him. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Stop resisting. Please, please. Make way. Please, I'll take this one. Okay, okay. Give me your hand. Give me your hand. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Stop trying. 7-3-5-3 Stop. Stop resisting. Stop resisting! Stop resisting! Stop resisting! Stop resisting! Stop! Stop resisting! Stop resisting! Stop! Stop resisting! Stop! Stop resisting! Shoot him! Sir! Put your fucking hands there!
Starting point is 01:08:04 Put your fucking hands there! Put your fucking hands in! Get in your hands! Get in your hands! Get out! Get out! Get out! Get out of my face! Luckily, the shooting wasn't fatal, and Roman is currently hospitalized
Starting point is 01:08:43 in stable condition following surgery. Y'all, bullshit city ordinance? I mean, this has shades of Oscar Grant all over it. That's all I could think about. And, you know, it just shows you how little the police have actually learned in all of this. Doesn't matter how many protests, how many people they kill,
Starting point is 01:08:57 how many people they maim, injure, how many people they traumatize them. Certain of those people in that station were scared, right? They have learned nothing about de-escalation. The only option that they have is to escalate the situation. This could have been a ticket. Instead, you fell for this man. For what? Let him be. Or you could let his ass get away.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Exactly. For what? Right? This wasn't a danger. By all accounts, this man was more of a danger to himself than anybody else, and yet you take this step of stepping on... and then saying, why are you resisting? You're hurting me. What am I supposed to do, let you kill me? And, I mean, thank goodness he's not dead right now. If you make somebody, they're going to resist.
Starting point is 01:09:33 They're going to move. They're going to try and get their hands to their eyes to clear out what's going on. And, you know, there are police departments that have rules on the books about, you know, releasing their fire... You know, firing a gun. Rules? You know, well, I know it don't happen that often, but, you know, there are rules that they are supposed to not be firing, you know, in these types of situations. I mean, our policing
Starting point is 01:09:54 system right now is not focused on de-escalation. Unfortunately, it should be, you know, they allow these things to grow and grow and grow and they put more people's lives in danger. All right. Resistance is like equivalent to murdering. Yeah, people's lives in danger. All right, folks. Resistance is like equivalent to murdering. That's what it is. All right, folks, we've got to go to a break. When we come back, American Worker segment sponsored by Ask Me. Back in a moment. We'll be right back.
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