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Rollin' with Rollin' now He's funky, he's fresh, he's real The best you know, he's Rollin' Martin Martin Martell Fam, what's going on? 115 civil rights organizations are calling on the Department of Justice to open a full hate crimes investigation into the murder of Ahmaud Arbery, the black man who was shot and killed February 23rd in Brunswick, Georgia.

They want this federal investigation to determine whether they call it a pattern or practice investigation into the local district attorneys and the Glynn County Police Department for systemic constitutional abuses. Letter was sent to Attorney General William Barr and Assistant Attorney General Dryband. Joining us right now in our panel, Dr. Greg Carr, Chair of the Department of Afro-American Studies, Howard University, Erica Savage-Wilson, host of Savage Politics Podcast, and Recy Colbert, Black Women Views. Greg, when you look at this here, first of all, obviously, the Attorney General of Georgia

has called for a federal investigation into the DAs. The governor has appointed a special prosecutor in this case as well. This is, again, more pressure. The question is whether or not the Trump Department of Justice will have the guts to do it because it's interesting how it's falling out.

All these white conservatives falling on the line of protecting Travis McMichael and Gregory McMichael as opposed to Ahmaud Arbery. Go ahead. Yes, sir. I think politics will determine the calculus. I mean, we know that this happened a couple of months ago over that and that it was external pressure, public outcry led by the black community, led by really yourself and a handful of others once it hit social media, which made it a groundswell. The Department of so-called Justice now under Attorney General community, led by really yourself and a handful of others once it hit social media, which

made it a groundswell. The Department of so-called justice now under Attorney General Barr, a political operative, is not going to do anything that they're not forced to do. It's important to understand that now you see Republicans in control of the apparatus of the state. When they are in control, they also begin to break down and fracture. In Oklahoma, for example, the governor just vetoed a budget, both houses of the legislature controlled by Republicans, but the governor vetoed it in part because he wants to go even

farther right. You see the same thing happening in other places like Wisconsin. The Supreme Court controlled by them, state Supreme Court, legislature is controlled by them, but they're willing to take a risk there. What's going to happen in this case, I think, is that the Trump administration is going to try to determine whether or not it will help them politically to go after these two guys. And quite frankly, and I know we're going to talk about this a little bit later, you know, as the facts unfold, they have hired some high powered lawyers in Georgia that might be able to get them off. So you might see an investigation undertaken if the Department of

Justice under this extreme right wing decides that, yeah, it's not going to cost us anything. And ultimately, we may issue a finding that we don't see a hate crime or we don't see a pattern in practice. Racy, what we're looking at here in terms of, again, is the pressure. The reality is these three DAs were slow on the job. The first one declined to prosecute them, even though cops said they wanted them to be prosecuted, actually charged. Then you have a second DA who pretty much acted as a defense attorney. The third DA dragged his feet. Then GBI came in.

It's abundantly clear you had DAs who were not trying to prosecute. This is why the DOJ should investigate. But there's been no no evidence thus far. And the Trump Department of Justice gives a damn about civil rights at all. That is true. I mean, under the Trump administration, the patterns and practices investigations have all become to a halt. There was even in the earlier session days where they were actually backing off of the consent decrees and things like that that the Obama administration had been working on. So yeah, we do know that William Barr's DOJ is all about being Donald Trump's personal henchman rather than actually upholding the rule of law for its citizens. However, I do think that what we're seeing now

is we're seeing a lot of pressure from not just these civil rights groups, but Senator Kamala Harris on May 11th sent a letter to the DOJ demanding a patent and practices investigation and, you know, calling out the DA, calling out the police department. And we know from experience that Kamala Harris is not shy about getting on William Barr's case as well as going to the deputy attorney general and things like that. And so I think that we're starting to see a higher drumbeat that's going to make it a lot harder to ignore. Erica. Right. And in terms of not giving a damn about civil rights, what we do know is that William Barr and his assistant secretary of civil rights do give a damn about civil liberties. Just at the end of April, they issued a statement of interest to the Commonwealth of Virginia. The governor here had actually said that folks who are practicing religious services are not to have more than 10 people in a facility. And so there was a congregation that had about 16, and William Barr and his assistant secretary

did get involved there. So what we have to demand, what Risi has said, what we do have to demand is, along with these pressure groups, with the pressure that you've put on and other people, is to say that they should have the same energy that they have around civil liberties for this hate crime investigation with the now deceased Ahmaud Arbery. And again, the reason I think you've got to have this constant drumbeat is because they need to understand we're not going anywhere. The reality is black people have always had to fight for our rights. This is no different. We should not have to be put on this level of public pressure.

But when you have three DAs who don't do their job, we have no choice to demand justice. Absolutely. Roland, I mean, again, it can't be overstressed. What Recy said is right. I mean, when you see Senator Harris, when you see those in the legislature willing to put the fire at a bar, and he sits there with that smirk on his face saying that history is written by the winners, the toady is absolutely right. It is written by the winners. What he seems to not understand, however, is the apparatus of the state can bend to the of the matter is this. Kamala Harris can rain natural fire on Bill Barr, and he will sit there with that toady smirk on his face unless and until the rest of us get out in the street.

As we've said, as you've said constantly since this news broke, it was the video followed by action of people in the street that empowered the policymakers to be able to do something. Barr will not be able to do something. Barr will not be able to withstand the pressure if enough of us who are outside of the apparatus of the state impose our will on the state. That is really our strategy, has to be. And we can't forget also, Erica, this is an election year. Yeah, it's a presidential election year, but it is also a year for down ballot races. We also have a Mike Espy. We have a Jamie Harrison that are looking to take senatorial seats. And in speaking about down ballot, this is an opportunity for folks to pay attention to those races that are impacting them.

As we see it right now, their local D.A.'s looking to see who their solicitor general is. And so I hope that this is an opportunity, as Dr. Carr said, when this is how it's always been for us, right, that we actually take this moment and engage in a much different and in a much stronger way so that the fragment of democracy that we do have, that we're able to retain that and build from there. Racy? that we're able to retain that and build from there. Recy? Yeah, and also there are two open Senate races or Senate seats in Georgia. So black folks, if you are down in Georgia and you are pissed off as hell about Ahmaud Arbery's killing,

you can do something about bringing more people to Congress to put pressure on the DOJ. Hopefully we'll have a Democratic administration, but just because it's a Democratic administration doesn't automatically mean that there will be action on things like this. And so this is the opportunity to think about all those races, as Erica said, the down-ballot races,

but also the two very, very critical Senate races that will be coming up. Absolutely. Now, folks, audio from the 9-11 call. Travis Michael made a two. Police has been released. Here it is. What's going on? We've got a string of burglaries. I was leaving the neighborhood

and I just caught a guy running into a house being built two houses down from me. When I turned around, he took off running into the house. Okay. What did he look like? Uh, it's a black male, red shirt, white shorts. Can you say the house is being built? It's being built. Yes, ma'am. It's vacant right now. He is in the house. What's your name and phone number, sir? Travis McMichael. Alright. Where are you at now? I am sitting right across the street in my truck, watching the house. Watching the house with her right now. Right here at the trailer. Okay. What kind of truck are you in? A red Ford F-150. Okay.

Are you okay? Yeah, yeah. It just startled me. When I turned around, when I turned around and saw him and backed up, he reached into his pocket and ran into the house. So I don't know if he's armed or not, but he looked like he was acting like he was so you know be mindful of that okay what pocket did he reach into left I believe okay and now so... Possibly. How many houses down is it from yours?

It's two towards the highway. He's got... I guess he doesn't realize we're here. He's got f***ing lights on right now. He's got a flashlight going through the house. Does he? Okay. You just stay where you're at so that the officers will know. Will do. Okay.

And I'll stay on the line with you until they get there, just in case anything changes. Roger that. stay on the line with you until they get there just in case anything changes roger that so you said he was a black male did he have hair on his head any other features you can tell me about i couldn't tell okay he just looked like short hair okay was he tall, short? Yeah, he was taller, about six foot. Okay. There's the neighbors. I guess it's one of the other neighbors saw it. There's about four of us over here around it right now. Okay. Now, keep in mind, that was not the 911 call that was tied to Ahmaud Arbery. That was tied to several days previously. That's why he said, oh, someone was sitting here showing someone had a flashlight, whatever.

The event that took place at Ahmaud Arbery took place in the daytime. And so just just under just understand that distinction. Now, again, today, his attorneys held a news conference where they made it clear that people should say that Travis McMichael and Gregory McMichael are innocent until proven guilty. Here's some of that news conference. In some countries, when the government accuses you of a crime, you have a show trial. You get convicted and you get sent to prison. Or even worse, you disappear altogether. But we understand here that when the government accuses you of a crime, how easy it is to accuse. And so we have that presumption of innocence. And we have that due process of law with rights for every individual accused of a crime. We need to be mindful of those rights that are embedded in the very fabric of our society, that are promises made by our Constitution, a document we hold up to other countries as

an example of how government should function. And so I implore all of you, members of the media, reporters, journalists, commentators, and the listeners and readers that follow your lead. Don't rush to judge me. Our evidence in a court of law, whether it's in Glynn County or someplace else, the government will have an opportunity to present its evidence in a court of law,

and then, and only then, then you can judge our cases, the tragedies associated with these cases. Mr. Arbery's death is a tragedy. As attorneys who are stepping into this case, we feel an immense responsibility to be respectful, to be ethical, to be conscientious, to have a commitment to the truth. And we are going to shoulder the responsibility of that commitment to the truth and to those core values that we as attorneys hold dear to ourselves and our profession. That is our promise to you all. That is our promise to the community here in Brunswick, to the families and to the individuals. You know, it's amazing to listen to them,

Erica, talk about presumption of innocence, no rush to judgment, yet their clients rushed to judgment, accusing Ahmaud Arbery of theft, chased after him with guns. He's dead. They're still alive. G-T-F-O-H. The execution, the lynching of Ahmaud Arbery, that blood is not going away. And for other people to understand that are following this case and to see that whether or not Travis is going to have bond, whether the other Klansmen, I don't recall his name, is going to have bond, this is a long road ahead. They have already had private Facebook groups, many of which that have been dismantled, GoFundMe pays, many of those that have been taken down.

So we're just going we're going to have to play the long game because the other piece of this is whether or not that case is tried in Glynn County, Atlanta or somewhere else, that we're going to have to look to see what that jury is comprised of. If that jury is not reflective of the now deceased Ahmaud Arbery and his family and the rising majority of America, then we've got some real serious outcomes to be concerned about. And this is also why people need to be registered to vote, so that they can sit on those juries for cases like this. And so as we listen to these attorneys bring out the diversity piece, talk about other countries, in this United States of America since 1704, slave patrols have been

the order of law. And so us wanting to see change means that we have to be very active, that we have to, number one, ensure that we are engaged, not just in the short term, not just for hashtags, not just for runs, but for however long this case plays out. But then also make sure that we are doing what we can to make sure that, number one, Travis and his father don't get bond. That means sending out emails, calling the DA's office, but then also ensuring that we are registered voters so that when cases like this unfortunately continue to come up, that we can be on those juries and make sure that justice is served. Recy, again, listen to those attorneys. Look, I get it. I mean, he's your

client, but what y'all are asking for, they didn't do to Ms. Darbury? I mean, frankly, I listened to that and I just thought, ain't that about a bitch? How dare you sit up there and talk about the presumption of innocence? How dare you wave around the Constitution after you executed a black man who was minding his damn business, who was jogging and not doing anything to anybody?

It's actually sickening to hear and they probably really believe that shit and that's what's even more infuriating. As far as Gregory McMichael goes, when you listen to these 911 tapes and this like that, all that is is establishing a pre-alibi. It's establishing a pretext more, and I hope you don't mind that I'm reading this, Roland, but Gregory McMichael actually had a lapse in state mandated training for things like community-oriented policing, de-escalation, use of force. And that was between 2006 and 2004, where that meant he was not empowered by, even though he was a chief investigator for the DA's office, to issue arrests. And so it's so ironic that a person who for eight years had this power suspended from him because he did not have the proper training or he disregarded the mandate to have that proper training, turned around and took it upon himself to make what he called a citizen's arrest.

But what it really is, like Erica said, it's a lynching. It's a slave patrol. It's disgusting. And this whole high ground and trying to appeal to people on the basis of constitution and presumption of innocence, it's all bullshit. Greg. Well, brother, I share Recy's righteous ind indignation and I think Erica has nailed it. First of all, yes, they may have taken down the GoFundMe and tried to blend it on social media.

But when you hire Peters, Rubin, Sheffield and Hodges out of Atlanta, you've got some money. So the first thing we see is that you have some money or it's some money behind you. I'm sorry, brother. Let me let me amend what I said to say what you said. Somebody is giving them money to hire these high powered lawyers. These ain't country lawyers. No. The first Bob Rubin. These two ain't got no money. No question. That's number one. So we now see that, as you say, the Klan then rallied around its own because they didn't pay debt retainer fee. And Rubin, Bob Rubin, the first one, the first guy who spoke, Rubin was the lead lawyer in, I'm sure you remember, I know you covered it, the Atlanta Public Schools, the RICO prosecution, those black principals in Atlanta for that test cheating scandal. Rubin came out of Emory. He spent time working with Fulton County as a public defender, then worked with the state as an assistant attorney general for the state,

prosecuting Medicare fraud. So this guy has a deep training. His friend Sheffield, since 2015, Sheffield, the second lawyer who spoke, he's been traveling overseas with Rubin and one of the other lawyers to train new lawyers in the Republic of Georgia that just broke from the Soviet Union on how to select juries. So what Erica said is very important. The first thing we're going to have to find out is whether they're going to change the venue from Glynn County. And they're going to fight like hell, I suspect, to keep the venue there. Then you're going to get into jury selection. These aren't country lawyers. They've been doing jury selection. They go overseas to teach other countries, lawyers in other countries, how to select a jury. They are going to introduce, finally video galvanized our community, but it was necessarily something that damned them.

Now you release this report, this 911 call, to basically establish that these police-adjacent vigilantes, because they ain't just out there. These guys used to be cops, so they were affiliated with criminal justice system. They're out there basically serving as a neighborhood. Watch. All you got to do is seek the right jury, introduce enough of a snowstorm to get them to introduce reasonable doubt, and these guys walk. And they got the right firm in Peters, Rubin, Sheffield, and Hodges, brother. I'm afraid. Well, what's interesting about this is that a lot of people, I mean, this is this is probably this is arguably the one story like this where even a lot of white folks have been commenting on social media. What happened to him was wrong. Eric Erickson, big time conservative for far right there in Georgia, was going, y'all, y'all could try to explain this all the way. That man did not deserve to die i don't recall uh previous

cases where you where you saw that but what's interesting about this is that for the most part you got these white conservatives lining up behind the mcmichaels but you got a few black folks who've done that well last night a group of uh a group of these these black black black conservatives or call themselves black conservatives, had a Zoom debate. Let's just say it got a little crazy, a little heated. You get this dude, Brandon Tatum, former cop, thinking like a cop, not thinking like a black cop, who has put out videos. And his was very interesting. Here's a guy who puts a video out trying to offer the facts of the Albury case.

It's almost gotten two million views in only a handful of days. Trust me, those are not black people who are watching that video. Well, things got a little rough in this Zoom conversation. Here is an excerpt. Question from Brandon. I just, I personally, I came on here for this question. Brandon, I've spoken to you before. I think you're a great guy.

And this is why I'm concerned about what's going on now. I mean, I think you know that a lot of us, for example, in other cases that, of course, other black people have definitely pushed back on when we talk about it. For example, when people were kneeling during the football games, I didn't think that was right. And I was very vocal about that, that I'm proud of my flag and proud of America. But there are certain cases that are so clear cut, like, for example, Flanagan Steel. Most people will, even if they go back later and look at it, know that it was a very clear-cut case and it was wrong. And then looking here in this issue, I think it's something that is so clear-cut that it's something that we can bring out and say as in unison, you know what?

This is when it's wrong. Because what we get all the time is people saying that we never talk about racism when it actually exists. We talk about racism when it actually exists. We talk about racism is everywhere. And I personally will say, and I will say that over and over again, I will call out people who make everything about race because that's not true.

But it's also not true when it is very obvious when something is maybe, you know what? Now you're on this case. If it's not even about race, right? If Arbery were a white man and I saw that video, I would be just as horrified because that man did not deserve to die.

Period. Nobody said he did, though. I don't know. I'd give you $1,000 if you see anybody that said that man deserved to die. But you know what you usually do when you know that something is wrong? You stand up for the person who was the victim. And that's the problem. Laquan McDonald.

We're not seeing you. Did you make a video about Laquan McDonald? Did you make a video about Laquan McDonald? We're not seeing you in this case. No, no, no. Did you make a video about Laquan McDonald? Can I finish what I'm saying? I'm saying.

You're just making up stuff. No. How am I making up stuff. No, how am I making up stuff? I made a video about Laquan McDonald's death at the hands of a police officer that shot him 12 times. Clearly, it was wrong. I made a whole video about how that was wrong. Okay, can we go back to the Arbery? How am I not defending that?

Can I finish my statement on the Arbery? I'm just saying, in this case, it seems that what it looks like is that you're going out of your way for people who are trying to be compassionate to really i mean we're always the ones who are going oh let's wait for the facts to come out okay and that is why a lot of people feel like we're heartless but in situations where it's so clear cut three months after the fact it happened that you continue to say let's look at the facts, and the facts are coming out

hour after hour in the media, and it's been actually justified by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation? It's not justified. Why don't we talk about the facts in that sense, just as much as you talk about the facts in another sense? It is irrelevant. It is ironic. It is ironic.

No, it's not. It's ironic that all of these cases that we see, people are involved in criminal activity. It's never, he said, he said it's never a case where a person that just am doing nothing is just gunned down. All these people have an extensive criminal history. Why is that important? Do you not think that's strange? No. Just because you

had a criminal past doesn't mean that you deserve to lose your life. It's funny because that is relevant in the case that's at play. You know, here's the thing. Here's the thing. They're quick to run and grab that talking point of Biden and Hillary Clinton

you know, created the, you know, the crime bill. You're the fakest nigga I ever seen in my life. They created the crime bill. I see you in person. They created the crime bill. They created the crime bill.

They created the crime bill. I'm done, bro. You a fake nigga. I hope everybody see that. I appreciate it. Fake, bro. I'm going to expose you to everybody. And when I see you, nigga, it's going to be on.

I want you to know that. Because you called me on the phone, and you're saying all this, and then you get on the live stream, and you're playing this shit. You should be ashamed of yourself. Is that black on black prom? Is that black on black prom? You's a bitch.

I told you. Everybody on your live stream knows you's a bitch. And when I see you, I'm whooping your ass. Everybody got your live stream. I called you. Everybody on your live stream knows you was a bitch. And when I see you, I'm whooping your ass. Everybody got your live stream, nigga. I like it. You want to be hood, nigga? You want to be hood? You on the phone talking shit to me, and you call me and say you apologize?

Yeah, nigga. I never apologize. You apologize? I never apologize. You didn't apologize? My wife listen to you, nigga. I never apologize. What I said was... Bitch, nigga. That never podcast. What I said was, what I said, what I said was, what I said.

Let's wrap this up. So the brother you heard who was cussing another brother out, that's Brandon Tatum. Very close with Candace Owens. Used to work with Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk. Frequent visitor to the White House. Loves himself some Donald Trump. And that's how they were talking amongst black conservatives. See, and so what happened is the brother who was in the top corner, I think he'd go by Hotep Jesus.

Okay, that's what he goes by. So he basically was saying, Brandon, why y'all always why y'all parroting white conservatives how is it that you're giving them the talking points and see that's really what we're seeing a lot of reese you got these people who are trump supporters like a tatum candace owens came out of twitter jail just blasting away basically saying y'all don't say nothing about black on black violence y'all don't care, basically saying, y'all don't say nothing about black-on-black violence, y'all don't care about black people, now y'all are mad. She was the first

one trying to say Arbery was out there thieving, and trust me, the white conservatives are sitting there loving it. See, if you want to know how to game, just go to Brandon's YouTube channel. His videos, you'll see, giving that money. Giving that. Give her that money.

Give her that money. Give her that money. And that's what I'm trying to explain to people when we expose these folks for who they are. Okay? I know a whole bunch of black conservatives who are third and fourth and fifth generation black Republicans.

These folks are Trump grifters. Not anybody in that video, but folks like Brandon Tatum, that's what you're dealing with. Folks like him, what you're dealing with is they have come of age in this Trump.

You got Lawrence Jones up there. You see him running his mouth on Fox News. He be saying some nonsense as well. The sister we tried to ochre for, we invited her on the show. We couldn't reach her. But the bottom line is, it's here. I've had a different view on here. Like this dude, R.C. Maxwell,

whatever the hell his name is, you know, out there, his usual, oh, that nonsense. You call it what it is, and they're the ones who are claiming, oh, they're leading black people out of the Democratic Party. Well, if you following a fool like Brandon Tatum, you can be going over a cliff. Right. I mean, I don't know any of these people, to be frank with you.

I've never heard of them. I don't know them. But I don't like what I see from from that clip. And I watched some of their discussion. I was disgusted watching it. My husband has a saying. He says that some Black people, I'm going to put the sum in front of it, but some Black people are the foot soldiers of white supremacy. And that's what these Trump conservative

grifters are. When you perpetuate these stereotypes, when you sit up there and regurgitate these talking points to try to criminalize an innocent Black man who was doing absolutely nothing wrong. It's disgusting. And the way that Brandon turned up in that video, there are white folks that would shoot his ass for doing

that much, okay? And so, you know, they want to parrot these things about, oh, you have to conduct yourself a certain way. And look how he was turning up and N-word this and N-word that. You know, I mean, it's ridiculous. If he had come across some of these white folks that they were defending, his ass would be shot dead, just like all these other black people

that they have absolutely no compassion for, who did far less than what he did in that video. You put your head down, Greg. Brother, that's three minutes of my life I'm not going to get back. You know,

Daniel Dresner wrote a book a couple of years ago called The Ideas Industry. And he talks about how over the last generation or so, what we've shifted from is the idea of public intellectuals. On the white side, you might think of a Daniel Patrick Moynihan. On the black side, you might think of a Wyatt T. Walker or a Pauli Murray or Dorothy Cotton or, you know, you name it, Ron Walters. People who are informing policymakers or in terms of social movements, let's expand it to an Ella Jo Baker or a Septima Clark, informing social movements. He says we've shifted from that to what they call thought leaders. Well, that's not that meaning people who generate clicks, clickbait generators, eyeball attractors,

they're not really impacting policy if they're unattached to institutions. So now you see people like the whole Fox network crew, Sean Hannity, thought leader, meaning what he is supported and subsidized by a media institution that allows him to spew his nonsense. And then people do act on that, including at this point, the president of the United States. What we just witnessed is the convergence of the thought leader move in our society with the explosion of social media. The reason we don't know any of these people or the reason you keep track of them because you have to,

you're helping us filter this stuff. But for those of us who would never watch something like that, first of all, anybody calling themselves Hotep, Jesus or Uncle Hotep has opened their mouth, as my mom would say,

and put their brain on display. I would brand, no, I wouldn't do that because the word Hotep, I would brand the glyph in their forehead. But the word hotel in the Meta Netra in Egyptian hieroglyphs literally means peace. So I should probably back off of that. But my point is that you've got people now and a mind that UNCF commercial back in the 70s, a mind is a terrible thing to waste. A mind is a terrible

thing to underdevelop because now everybody with a phone or a laptop can get on social media. Anybody who wants to talk can talk. These are not thought leaders. These are people generating clicks for clickbait, nor are they conservatives. They are branders. And so finally, what you started with is all we need to know about that conversation. It's very basic. This is about money money this is about watching them this is about generating revenue none of them have anything to say about anything that's going to either a impact policy or b change the minds of anyone who will take a minute to reflect to organize to study and to act in an informed manner so that was a sideshow better for wwf wrestling that's why he's talking about

beating somebody's ass which he ain't't going to do. So here's why I showed that, Erica. Because again, these are the people Fox News elevates. I just need people to understand what the whole design is.

Okay? Fox Nation, now they just dropped them in no logical world. What a TV executive give Diamond and Silk a show. It's a it's a minstrel show. But what do they set up? You take a Candace Owens who used to work with the NAACP to get a settlement from her school district. TPUSA hires her.

She's now in PragerU. Trump has her at the White House. Million followers. All these stories done on her. All like this great mass movement leader of black people away from the Democratic Party. But who is elevating her? That's right. Is there anything between those two ears?

No. There's a reason why she will not debate me been running for a whole year. But she'll challenge John Legend and Don Tito, people like that. And there are people out there who say, Roland, but we should ignore them. This is why you, that's not that simple.

Because you have to understand how they are strategically used to serve different interests. Trump does the exact same thing. A crazy, ignorant comedian. I don't know what he ain't even funny. Terrence Williams. Same thing. You got to understand, to Greg's point, the minstrel show and the grifter show. You got to understand how to Greg's point, the minstrel show and the grifter show. You got to understand how they play this whole game and how they then elevate, oh, these are the black people we should be listening to. So therefore, how they prop them up,

they do their books and their speeches. And then I think it keeps going on and on. That's why you have a Larry Elder who will write a book called Stupid Black Men. Yes. He ain't trying to talk to black people. He's talking to white people. He's talking to white conservatives.

And that's the game that you see being played. And that's why we call it out so folks understand. And let me be clear. There are black conservatives we have on this show who are real, who do care about the black community. We might differ

on some policy issues. We might agree on some policy issues. There's a long history of black people being Republicans, okay? You could talk about Jackie Robinson.

You could talk about any number of people. You could talk about folks who served in Republican administrations. Bob Brown, who accompanied Coretta Scott King to pick up Dr. King's body, who was on the board of the SCLC, goes from there to getting hired by Richard Nixon and who played a crucial role in terms of driving these black

people. Just because he worked for Nixon didn't make him bad. So that happens. There are black people who work in different administrations who've done that. Alfonso Jackson, Secretary of HUD under George W. Bush. I know Alfonso well. Again, we might differ on some issues, but agree on some other issues. These folks, the Brandon Tatums of the world, the Candace Owens of the world, they can't even step in the same room with those black Republicans. It's understanding the game, Erica. Absolutely, Roland, and you laid it out. What's being presented for the public is information. And what they have yet to find out is that acquiescence to whiteness is not protection.

It does not preclude any of the injustices that we have seen for years and years from happening to them. And since we're dropping gems, I'll drop something that my late big mama said to us, which is when you open your mouth, you remove all doubt. And so for Brandon Tatum, the moment I had to click off is when he began to invoke the name of George Zimmerman and O.J. Simpson and then go on to, as you shared in that clip, talk about the people that have been victims of criminal activity by the people that executed, lynched them, that they had criminal background. You're talking about a black man, a person that is black, that is a former law enforcement officer. I'm very concerned about what his history was when he was on the police force with the type

of aggression that we saw in that video with a muscle tight shirt on with the face of Donald Trump. So we do have to look at the minstrel show. We do have to have this type of information so that we can be even more engaged in understanding grifters and knowing that all of our skinfolk damn sure ain't our kinfolk. And let's talk about another case, the Breonna Taylor case. Black woman shot and killed in Louisville. These are the photos of the three officers who were involved in that shooting. Go to my iPad, please. Okay. Detective Brett Hankinson, Detective Miles Cosgrove, Sergeant Jonathan Madeline on death's duty, will still have their jobs. Now, in a moment, I'm going to play the actual interview that Tamika Mallory did with

Breonna's mother. But I want to talk to our panel about this here because this is what I find to be real interesting. And that is, her boyfriend had a license to carry his gun. The cops break into the apartment. No knock warrant, Reesey. They bust through.

He grabs his gun, thinking home invasion, intruders. Fires at the cops. 20 bullets are fired back. Kills Breonna, EMT worker, boyfriend, charged with attempted murder. Do any of y'all have any of y'all seen the National Rifle Association? Dana Lash, big time

Second Amendment. Grant Stinchfield had their show on NRA TV. The black dude from Dallas, Colin Knorr. Oh, big time gun person. Brice, have you heard any of them coming to the defense of Kevin, the boyfriend? I thought they were all about protecting gun rights and gun owners. Yeah.

But I mean, did they say anything when Philando Castile was gunned down and he was allowed, he was registered to carry and he was actually reaching for his permit to show the officers? Of course not. I mean, black people don't have, the Second Amendment doesn't apply to black people

when it comes to the NRA. And interestingly enough, we had a similar case in Prince George's County where the cops came to the wrong house the NRA. And interestingly enough, we had a similar case in Prince George's County where the cops came to the wrong house and, you know, they got fired on by the owner or by the person who, you know, lived there. And there were no charges or anything of the sort because the cops were in the wrong in that situation. This is nothing but retaliation. It's nothing but, you know, a grievous injustice and trying to deflect away from the fact that the cops

killed an innocent woman who they did not have a warrant for, who was not involved in any kind of criminal activity. They found no drugs in her place. But one thing I do want to get away from is how we try to paint people as the perfect victim when the reality is, even if there were drugs, the same thing, even if Ahmaud Arbery was stealing something, that does not give anybody the right to execute them. It's a lynching. And this is nothing more than trying to intimidate the boyfriend, just like I believe Philando Castile's girlfriend was, you know, handcuffed and all the other kind of stuff. We always see where they try to intimidate the witnesses to these illegal killings. Yes. Again, I'm sitting here like, like, for instance, go to my iPad, please. I see this little tweet they sent out May 6th after a scary experience.

She learned to sew and launches a custom holster business from her dorm room. Read Nikita's inspiring story here. So they got a photo of his sister all on their page, you know, emphasizing that. And if I scroll down, I'm looking and I'm, I'm, I'm looking at this here. 1.8 million guns sold. Second straight month of historic gun sales. 71% up from last year. You're seeing all these. I don't see nothing about the brother in Kentucky NRA.

It's amazing how quiet they are, Greg. Well, I mean, because the NRA is a perfect marriage of white nationalism and corporate elites. Those sales are going through the roof because people are arming themselves, some of them perhaps in rural Michigan or Wisconsin or South Dakota for the coming race war they've been fantasizing about in their movies and in their literature that they circulate in their little caverns. were alive. And I wish that night that Kenneth Walker had been able to neutralize the threat posited by the cowardly Louisville patirolers acting under the cover of their deceit by not having body cameras. If they had body cameras and Kenneth Walker had been able to neutralize the threat, there would be two dead Louisville cops and he'd be charged with killing the police. As it stands, what we see is what we've always seen. Again, I just referenced our ancestor Ida Wells again, who said that a Winchester rifle should occupy a place of honor

above the hearth of every home, of every Negro home, writing in the 1890s when she talks about lynch law and all its phases. This isn't going to stop until we stop it. Ken Walker did his best to stop it that night. His partner paid for it with her life. And unfortunately, he wasn't able to wound and or kill these two patarollers who not only invaded their home, but shot up an apartment complex. And thank God they didn't kill anybody else. There is no justice in this godforsaken settler state, except that

we give it to ourselves. And this should wake everybody up to run these people out of elective office. That's just one strategy to arm ourselves. Another strategy. Now, I'll end with this. While people are while we're looking and trying to survive and our essential workers like Breonna are out there trying to live, Mitch McConnell and his in the Senate, he controls past legislation today, reauthorization of the Patriot Act that allows you allows the federal government to go into your Web browser and look through your search history without your consent. This place is getting closer and closer to the place it is. The mask is falling off. And this is just another example of that. Yes. And the reason I'm raising

this, people, because, again, it's important for us to show the hypocrisy that exists when it comes to these folks. Why is that? Because they'll stand there. They will celebrate these fools walking around with their submachine guns, walk around with their heavy artillery.

They had a photo the other day. This fool had an anti- tank missile launcher on his back. How many damn tanks your ass running into in your neighborhood? That's how crazy these people are. Yet when a black man with a license for a gun protects his home and shoots and these cops know not war. And so you don't know who's coming to the door. Now he's facing attempted murder charges, and all of these people who run their mouths about the Second Amendment

say nothing because they're all about protecting police, if they're right or wrong. It doesn't matter. Just like they said nothing and did not stand up when John Crawford, the third, was gunned down in a Wal-Mart in Ohio holding an air gun, an air gun that was sold at that Wal-Mart. But they tell us they can all carry their weapons. Go ahead with your final comment. Sure. And you're talking about the same clans, folks that are out making essentially state governments to open up. And I don't know how many more times or how many different ways it has to be said or has to be seen that black life is not valued. You know, allies and, you know, diversity, inclusion, all of these different effects to help make a group that will not

and does not feel like they have to accept, because as long as whiteness is an authority, as long as it is believed to be primary and truthful, as long as that is held true by this nation state and people actually take that on to be their truth as well, then things will continue to run business as usual. And so what folks need to wake up and see is that black life definitely is not valued and that this gentleman, Kenneth Walker, still has to grieve the death of Breonna Taylor.

Now we're also talking about trauma that has been inflicted upon this family, amongst all of us that have again had to ingest another injustice by the state. And so I said on this show on last Thursday, my Mother's Day gift was a 380. Listen, it's not a game. And I hope that people even realize that during this crisis, that though it is a heightened time and that health disparities amongst our community are definitely high. It is also a time for us to begin to look at ways with which that we can preserve our life and go ahead and step forward to ensure that we're not only protecting ourselves but our communities. And Dr. Carr did line out some of those strategies. And I hope that people take that to heart because it is not going to happen just by social media campaign, just by saying we're disgusted, just by posting a hashtag. It is going to take real energy, real effort, and real action.

All right, folks. Again, the mother of Breonna Taylor, she sat down in an Instagram Live interview with activist Tamika Mallory. The interview took place with Tamika Palmer. Here's an excerpt of their interview. I think all of the folks who are tuning in tonight want to share our condolences with you, really from a deep, deep place, of the folks who are tuning in tonight want to share our condolences with you, really,

from a deep, deep place, and also commit to you that we will fight alongside you, behind you, on your sides, and really be there to hold you up throughout this entire journey. So thank you again for being with me. Thank you. I'm so grateful and appreciative to have people standing up, to have people being here now because it was lonely. It felt like nobody cared. Yeah. Yeah. I can only imagine.

It's been a while. I mean, to know that this happened to your daughter March 13th. Is that correct? Yes. March 13th. And here we are all of these months. We should have been on it. And because we didn't know, which is what the system will often do, you know, the system will often find ways to suppress families' voices. But we do care and we're, you know, humbled to be able

to support you at this point. Why don't you tell us a little bit about, first of all, you know, humbled to be able to support you at this point. Why don't you tell us a little bit about, first of all, your feelings, just where you are at this point, your family, how your family members are doing, and tell us a little bit about Breonna. Just as far as where we're at, we're just here. We're maintaining. We're dealing um we're lost to not have answers to not know to not understand to just to not know what's happening at all exactly

yeah as far as brianna she was if brianna, every, I don't know anybody who didn't love Brianna, you know, she, um, she just was a very sweet person. She loved family. She loved life. She loved to help people. She, um, she had an old soul. I was, she was, yeah, she just was great. She really was a great person. All right, again, we certainly appreciate what she had to say. All right, folks, today on Capitol Hill, that was testimony. Rick Bright testified regarding the folks not being prepared for this coronavirus and national testing. We're going to play some of that in just a second right now.

I want to be joined by Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association. Dr. Benjamin, real quick here. My line is this here. I'm good. I'm good. I got time for you. These people are nuts, okay? General Russell Honore said you cannot have a 50-state strategy. You've got to have a national testing strategy.

Trump, White House, don't give a damn. They do not want any part of this. Governors, it's all on you. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. You've got to have a national strategy. You've got to actually have a plan and you've got to stop winging it. And these folks are just winging it

each and every day. And that's a problem. And it's going to cost lives. The thing is, what I don't understand is how just, I just want to operate real quick. That is, a national strategy means, all right, I need to be able to look at the map and go, more tests goes over here, more over here. Don't need as much over here. Let's shift them over here. If you don't do that here. Let's shift them over here. If you don't do that, you don't know what the hell is going on.

You might have a whole bunch of tests sitting in a state. They don't even need them. Absolutely. And in fact, we already know that has happened. We've had states that said we can't find any tests. And we have other states that say we got lots of them. So it's already happened. When you looked at the testimony today, what did you make of it?

He did not hold back at all as he laid out the problems. I mean, trust me, the Republicans were not happy that Rick Bright, this whistleblower, went before the House committee. Well, he's a credible guy. You know, he's worked hard. He's smart. And, you know, I think he's just laying out the problems that we've had. We have a dysfunctional system and a dysfunctional leadership process. And he just laid it out for him. And I hope people just don't blow it off and think that he's just a disgruntled employee. Even if you're mad, you know, there's credibility in what you have to say. And we're seeing the results of that each and every day. So despite what people think about

his testimony, he says what he thinks. And I bet when they pull back the onion skin, we're going to find out about all that is true. One of the things that also I think is critically important, still people who are impacted. Michael Harriot with The Root had this amazing story today about how these black women in this place in a town in West Virginia were getting no assistance, and they pretty much figured it out on their own. They are not even medical experts, but where they showed how all these black people in this one town, how they were impacted, got coronavirus at a church, basically learned how to do tracing on their own, and they save folks in their community. And that's what, I mean, people should not have to be resorting to that.

No, no. I mean, you know, the understanding is out there. Look, we've been doing contact tracing since the early 19th century. So we understand this. There's no reason for people to have to reinvent the wheel and learn it on their own. And we need to get more of them. And look, if you want to get people back to work, we know that we need at least 100,000 contact tracers.

So those are good jobs. So I don't know what they're doing. It is confusing to all of us what they're doing. And so, you know, we're going to stay on top of this, keep pushing, keep prodding. Please share what should black organizations, what should black churches, what should we be doing since we're being left out here on our own by this clueless administration? Well, I think the first thing you ought to do is band together and talk about what you can do to make sure you're all safe.

I think you ought to be following the guidance that we already have, which is covering up your nose and mouth when you cough and sneeze, washing your hands, wearing a mask when you're out but safely, because we know about this issue of masking while Black. And as we begin to move back into work, we do it very, very carefully, very, very, very carefully. And that means that when you go back to work or school, we need to practice physical distancing from one another. We need to make sure that we protect one another and be respectful of one another, whether we're in the grocery store or we're on the bus, because too many of us are public-facing in our jobs, and we've already seen, like everything else,

this disease kills more people of color at a faster rate than it does with everybody else. Indeed. Dr. Benjamin, we appreciate it. We're going to keep, again, keep pushing this. At the end of the day, we've got to keep focusing on us, because if we don't focus on us, clearly nobody else will. Absolutely. And I know the NAACP is looking at this very carefully.

And I would just encourage people, you know, you can go to our website, the American Public Health Association at APHA.org. We have some information. But the Center for Disease Control and Prevention is still the nation's prevention agency. We can trust them, and they have some very important guidance on their website that tells us what to do. I would encourage people to go there and use it.

Dr. George, this is Benjamin. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Roland, good to see you again. All right, folks, here's some of the testimony today from Rick Bright. That's a very difficult question to answer. I know that there are companies and academic labs working very hard. Normally it takes up to 10 years to make a vaccine. We've done it faster in emergency situations, but from when we had starting material in the freezer for Ebola, But for a novel virus, it's actually haven't been done yet that quickly.

So a lot of optimism is swirling around a 12 to 18 month timeframe. If everything goes perfectly, we've never seen everything go perfectly. My concern is if we rush too quickly and consider cutting out critical steps, we may not have a full assessment of the safety of that vaccine. So it's still going to take some time.

I still think 12 to 18 months is an aggressive schedule. And I think it's going to take longer than that to do so. 12 to 18 months from now or 12 to 18 months from when this all started at the beginning of the year? It would be 12 to 18 months from when the particular manufacturers first received the material or information that they needed to start

developing that vaccine. It's critical to note when we say 12 to 18 months, that doesn't mean for an FDA approved vaccine. That means to have sufficient data and information on the safety and immunogenicity, if not efficacy, to be able to use on an emergency basis. And that is the consideration that we have in mind when we talk about an accelerated timeline. Thank you. Lord, Erica, the Republicans are not happy. The Republicans are not happy. He testified.

I'm so glad that he did because this is another person that we see that was assigned to a federal, that was inside of a federal agency that because he did not do the things and say what Trump felt like

he needed to say that he was in effect pushed out. And just so that the viewing audience knows as he talks about the first number that he talked about was 10 years, the 12 to 18 month period, that's not even FDA approved for the vaccine. That just as recently as today, Dr. Joseph Fair, who works for NBC as a contributor, was hospitalized with COVID. And he says that he believes the way that he contracted COVID, he was on a plane. He said that there was not real social distancing, that he believes the way that he contracted COVID, he was on a plane.

He said that there was not real social distancing, that he traveled to New Orleans very recently and that the plane was packed, that the guidance about the middle aisle being taken out that was not followed. And that he believes that he contracted COVID through his eyes. His eyes weren't protected. Again, people need to understand that this is a novel virus and that the, as Dr. Bright shared in his testimony and other folks that you've had on this platform and in writings have talked about, it is going to take real significant time. We're talking about experts who have battled Ebola in foreign countries who do have expertise in this area. And so though Republicans don't like it, it is good for the audience. It is good for the body politic to understand this because the negligence of this particular regime has now led

to 85,000 deaths, which makes the USA leading in deaths from the coronavirus today. Recy. Yeah, I mean, listening to Dr. Bright's testimony was alarming. I mean, he really basically kind of said that we're screwed and that Donald Trump and his administration has completely abdicated their responsibility to have a competent response. And what they're banking on, and I'm editorializing here, this is what Dr. Bright said, but what they're banking on is that people are going to be more concerned about getting to the bars. We saw the bar in Houston that was packed. I've seen at least on social media and other places than they are about the very, very rising or very quickly rising death toll. I think people still have it. It hasn't said into them that this virus is not any less dangerous than it was when this whole stay at home push started.

It's not any less dangerous. It's not any less infectious. It's not any less deadly. We've made no advancements whatsoever in the treatment. We're not even closer to the vaccine. And I even saw a survey saying 25 percent or more people won't even take a vaccine once it's available. This is something that's going to fundamentally shift our way of life. And people are still going about it like business as normal. And that's where the Republicans are unfortunately winning the messaging war on it, because people would rather believe a fairy tale than believe that they're going to have to radically adjust the way that they go about their daily life. Greg. Roland, this is a critical point you're raising now.

The country, of course, is aware of Dr. Bright's testimony today. The Republicans ran out of questioners. Every Republican questioner sounded like the complete idiot they are, defending themselves by attacking everybody from Barack Obama to imaginary creatures or whatever else they could come up with. So it's a critical point for that point, of course. And as we've heard, we heard Erica walk through it and then Risi, this is the importance of dealing with the fact that the federal political

apparatus simply doesn't exist. In this venue, as we tie that to the story that you evoked, our brother Mike Harriot over at The Root, when he started talking about Romelia Hodges and the other three sisters who kind of came together in West Virginia to stand in the face of this, you've now grasped something that our people need to pay strict attention face of this, you've now grasped something that our people need to pay strict attention to, this question of contact tracing. And so when these sisters in West Virginia, Hodges, Danielle Walker, who's a delegate in the House of Delegates of West Virginia, Tiffany Samuels and Terry Berkeley got together,

they forced the hand of Joe Manchin, the senator in West Virginia, of course, who then offers resources to get people tested. But then West Virginia stopped gathering data by race because now it's going to be an embarrassment. They had already shut down one of the only hospitals in the area that would serve black people in that area of the state. But I'm raising this for this very specific reason. You know, we're here in the D.C. area. I'm on something called the Black Coalition Against COVID. A bunch of D.C. folks are getting together, trying to help our people understand that contact tracing is coming. You got to let people know who you've been in contact with.

Those people are not going to share the information with other people. You know, our people have right reason to be paranoid about the government, asking questions about where you've been. But at this juncture, the federal government is broken. The state governments are battling back. We saw what happened in Wisconsin today, for example, where the Supreme Court overruled the governor in another show of naked partisanship, including that judge who lost his election last month. And they say, open up the state. That's going to put you at risk, black people. So the black, I was on a call yesterday with educators from around

the country, Miami, Milwaukee, other places, Baltimore. And they were saying that our people are facing sickness and death as we know, in an unprecedented manner. But this contact tracing issue is real. And so when you see what happened in West Virginia, even as Dr. Bright is saying, this thing is going to get worse. And Donald Trump continues to turn his head to try to have campaign rallies like at this factory today, when he's over there playing around with testing equipment. Our people need to understand that it doesn't take money to ask questions. So the churches, the Masonic organizations, as you always say, the fraternities and sororities, it's time for us now to get real about identifying who is sick, getting them resources,

helping sequester them if we can, because until some more, we put pressure on people to get more resources. We are going to be the ones that die and contact tracing this issue you're raising today. Contact tracing is something we should be talking about every day. Absolutely. All right, folks, got to go to a break. We'll be back with more. Roland Martin Unf the field. Like, share, subscribe to our YouTube channel. That's YouTube.com forward slash Roland S. Martin. And don't forget to turn on your notifications so when we go live, you'll know it. Alright fam, to all Roland Martin VIPs, you are invited

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These are the headset right here. These are the headphones right here. You don't have to watch the virtual comedy showcase with your headphones. You can watch it right here on your phone. It's not a problem, but it does give you a whole different experience when you're watching it in virtual reality. And so what I want you guys to do is if you want,

if you wanna get these headphones, get this headset here, I want you guys to do is if you want, if you want to get these headphones, get these get this headset here. I want you there's a promo code that you can enter in to be able to do so. And so we pull that promo code up. And it's been like I say, I've been having way too much fun with this whole deal here with these with these headsets and ago these this is this is called the world's first 4d 360 degree audio headphones And of course, this is the mobile VR headset. And so that's what you have here They have a special code for our followers here at Roland Martin unfiltered and so we're gonna pull're going to pull that up. And where

is it? I thought we had it here. And so we had all these different emails back and forth. And so I'm trying to find it. Promo code. All right. This is what you use to buy.com, C-E-E-K.com and use RMVIP2020, RMVIP2020. And so you're going to get a discount. All of you who watch the show, you're going to get a discount if you buy these headphones VR. Y'all, we support African-Americans who are in the tech space, who have created their own companies. And that's why we do what we do. And the thing, Greg, I kept telling people, you know, when we launched this here, the reality is that without platforms like ours, you wouldn't know about these African-Americans who are creating tech.

I mean, look, who are this sister built and designed her own headphone, her own VR headset. And so I just keep telling people, look, the networks are only going to cover these people when they blow up. Roland, I tell you, brother, and I know that because, you know, Reese was on that show that night and as was Erica, and I know we were all blown away, know and I'll just say this I mean this is Roland Martin unfiltered if this were a white man 22 year old white man or some Harvard dropout like Mark Zuckerberg uh we would not only know her name and her company she would probably

have already been made multi-billion dollar offers to capitalize her and go forth. But this sister right here, tapping into the long arc of black intellectual work. In fact, the first symbol we have in world history of an intellectual is a black woman named Sashet. She, in the ancient Egyptian tradition, and I've been to Egypt now almost a dozen times, when you see her in the temples, it's a picture of her in a leopard dress and she's counting. She is the symbol of everything that can be counted, everything that can be recorded and observed. They give her credit for architecture, for astronomy, everything. This sister is a daughter of Sechette. If she were a white boy, she would be all over everything. And we are now facing finally what Naomi Klein wrote a piece in The Guardian the other day, she called it the screen new deal, meaning what? All these corporations, education, for example, Google and

all these folks, healthcare, they now think that this pandemic is going to give them the opportunity to do what they've been trying to do for the last 20 years, which is move almost everything they can of human activity online. We're going to need some of our people not only in that conversation, but shaping that conversation so that we don't end up a bunch of zombies programmed to somebody else's agenda. This is extremely important what you're doing right now. Well, we got some other people going to be having on the show, Erica, who have created platforms. And so our whole goal is to certainly have having on the show, Erica, who have created platforms. And so our whole goal is to certainly have them on the show, partner with them in certain terms of what we do. And so, yeah, when you use that code, let me explain to y'all, when you use that code to buy this headset

or the headphones, of course, that's coming back to the show. That's why we do it. And so we always talk about recirculating dollars and black people supporting black people. And I told y'all, Anthony, give me a wide shot. I told y'all. I told y'all how we roll. This set, give me a wide shot. Give me a wide shot. Switch to that camera. Switch to that camera. Don't give me one.

Switch to these cameras. Give me a wide shot on these cameras here. Keep that one on me. So I told y'all, this desk, this set was built by an African-American TV set designer. Yes. That's what we do. When we talk about, we talk about, again, in terms of what we do, the lighting system we have in here, a black lighting designer. And we're actually going to do, once we get more money, about another $4,000, I'm going to bring them in. We're going to completely do all the lights in here.

And then I have a brother on the show, Figures Wireless. These are not his television. They just sent me two of their TVs, 55-inch television. That's a brother, that brother, Freddy Figures, out of Florida. Not only does he do his own cell phones, and this is one of the cell phones, he also makes his own television, manufactures his own televisions as well. And so he sent me a couple. We're testing those. And so just understand, we practice what we preach here at Roland Martin Unfiltered. And that is supporting black owned businesses. Erica, go ahead.

Yeah. And that's something I was admonishing people earlier today was to support Roland and Martin and Filter for those very reasons that you lined up. Where else are you going to see yourself on a platform like this? It's nowhere else. Now, one of the questions that Risi asked, which I thought was really impactful and really kind of like widened the conversation, was that she talked about noticing that the price point for these particular devices were made affordable. And so you're talking about 4K, $4,000 just to be able to do something additional to the set. We have a buying power of about $1.3 trillion. The check should be cut. Support going to platforms like Roland Martin Unfiltered, where that platform then extends to expose us to ourselves so that we're able to see that, listen, we've been doing this, as Dr. Carr has pointed out so eloquently. We live in the future.

We are the originals. To be able to see ourselves in this way, to understand the power that we have is going to take what you have said time and time again, along with the connecting of dots, that we have to absolutely fund our own freedoms so that we don't just become a digital participant in elevating white supremacy as well. All right, folks. And I think there's an issue with YouTube. Looks like that site has gone down. All of a sudden I looked and so they have some issues there. But I think that we're still live on Facebook and I'm looking at some of the other platforms. So, all right, let's continue with our show, folks. The U.S. response to COVID-19 has been reckless and uncoordinated.

Congress is trying to do their part. The House is likely going to present another coronavirus relief bill tomorrow. But the Poor People's Campaign COVID-19 Health Justice Advisory Committee says, you know what? It does not have what it all needs to have. Sherelle Barber, senior advisor and coordinator for the committee, joins us right now. Sherelle, I got a text from your dad, Reverend Dr. William J. Barber. He said this bill is unacceptable. Why? There are a couple of reasons. So we've taken a look at it. And again, I would just say that we haven't done a deep, deep, deep dive of it.

But there are a couple of things that are notable. For example, there's still only a one-time direct payment in this bill. And we know that this pandemic is going to be long lasting. And so, you know, this kind of still this piecemeal protections for those who are losing their jobs, the nearly 35 million individuals who file for unemployment. You know, these just one-time direct payments aren't enough. We need to guarantee reoccurring payments during this time. It's also not clear, and again, we need to look at this more closely, whether we're adequately taking care of the homeless population, undocumented workers, folks in prisons. Are they getting the testing and the treatment that they need in order for this pandemic not to spread in those places?

And we're also concerned about the healthcare access during this time. Again, during a pandemic, people need access to free testing and free treatment. The bill does seem to address testing and treatment. However, it does not call for an expansion of Medicaid. And again, this is so critical because so many folks already in the U.S. were underinsured or uninsured. And so not to expand Medicaid during this time really is going to disproportionately impact the poor. And you know that's going to disproportionately impact our communities. All right. And so what more do you want to see in this bill? There are a lot of other progressives are not happy at all saying that Democrats are giving up too much to Republicans. Right. Well, OK, I was going to also just put this in context. If you think about the fact that this pandemic, the World Health Organization declared the

pandemic on March 11, 2020. We are nearly two months beyond that point, and we still haven't really focused on, again, the most marginalized populations. And we're seeing that those populations, Blacks, poor folks, are being disproportionately impacted. So I want to say that first and also say that the bill that they are putting forth now, you know, some of those provisions should have been the first thing we did, but we gave trillions to corporations.

Again, what we are missing is a focus on the most marginalized communities. Again, those income protections that are needed. There are people who were hurting before. Again, those income protections that are needed, there are people who were hurting before this crisis. And the fact that we can only come up with a one-time payment when folks were, you know, in debt before this crisis, we're already having to make ends meet before this crisis, it's still not enough. We, you know, we have to talk about the moratorium provisions and not just the moratorium where they are going to have to pay for, you know, the debt accumulation at a later date. But there needs to be a complete cancellation of the debt, you know, based if they're not able to pay rent in this moment, you know, paying four times that in, you know, in a few months or even in six months is still going to be prohibitive for most folks in this country. And so, again, we've got to think about what are the ways we

are taking care and protecting the most vulnerable populations, particularly communities of color, poor communities that were in crisis before this crisis. Questions from our panel. We'll start with Erica. Yeah. So thank you so much for joining. My question to you is, have you seen with these, this layout, have you seen more broader support from ally groups and from folks on the Hill to ensure that, because thinking about the brown and the black folks that do engine hospitality, travel, service jobs, have you seen more broad support from groups at Ally and from folks on the Hill as well? And more support for, I'm not clear of your question.

For the acts that you've laid out, for the acts that the board has been taking. Yeah, so coalitions, yeah, definitely. So folks have really come together to push Congress to move forward on this, right? And so, again, we can't take care of this pandemic unless we take care of it for everyone, including service workers. So there seems to be pushes and coalition building around these issues. The question is, will Congress deliver on the needs of, you know, folks that you've mentioned, sort of other essential workers in this moment who are literally putting their lives on the line during this pandemic? And so the hope is that that pushing will Congress do what they need to by the workers who are, again, most exposed but least protected in this moment?

Let's see here. Greg. Thank you, Roland. And thank you, Dr. Barber, for all your work. Really, I mean, your ongoing work. You know, I was listening to some educators on a call the other day in different parts, including Philly. They got long roots in Philadelphia. And they were talking about, and you've covered this, but I really want to ask you again in the context of what they were talking about. A lot of food and shelter insecurity for our people, concern about rent, concern about all those things. And then, particularly out of the educators we were talking to out of Miami, the fear among the immigrant populations to even come forward for

any type of service for fear the federal government is going to drop the hammer on them and they'll end up, some of them perhaps deported. How should we be thinking about addressing the most vulnerable in the immigrant population and putting a floor under those who are really literally worried that they might miss a rent payment and look up and be outside? No, no, that's so, and that's such a critical point that you're making. You know, we, many of my colleagues believe that, especially among not only undocumented immigrants, but even documented immigrants, that we are severely undercounting the number of cases in those populations.

And so we know that there's not, you know, there hasn't been the right amount of testing and treatment for blacks, but these populations are under surveillance, have been under surveillance, and are at risk of, like you said, being deported. So we need to be pushing for, if we're going to collect information from them, if they're going to access health care, that they're completely protected so they can get the care they need, they can get the testing, they can get the treatment without fear of, like you said, being deported. We need to absolutely be taking care of this. Another point I want to make is that

the extent to which we don't address the issue among any of these populations, undocumented populations, in our racially segregated communities, among our essential workers, means we don't deal with the pandemic at all, that we actually help to enhance the spread of the virus within the whole population. So again, this piecemeal approach by the federal government is actually making the pandemic spread even more in our communities. And the fact that we don't just nip it in the bud with the kind of bold legislation that we need means we don't take care of this pandemic at all. And it's detrimental to our communities and it's leading to more cases and more lives lost. Recy.

Yeah, thank you, Dr. Barber, for your work on this. I read through the PDF that you guys are distributing. One thing I noticed is that some of the asks really aren't necessarily things that will require more funding from the government. In fact, when we talk about detention centers, whether it's prisons or immigrant detention centers, those are the kinds of things that the government can actually work on releasing certain populations. But there doesn't seem to be as big of a push. Instead, you have rich people

like Paul Manafort that are getting these prison releases, these early prison releases. What do you think can be done, at least on the side where this is more of a policy decision that pushes the administration rather than something that's attached to funding that the House needs to push through? Right. I mean, I think, again, there's so many advocates who are working on this. One of the researchers that we have on this committee, Dr. Zinzi Bailey does work on incarceration and health, and they have written extensively on how you can actually put policies in place to do what they call compassionate release. Literally people who are right now in jail

because maybe there's a fine they didn't pay or they're waiting trial, but it's not a non, an offense that, you know, that they can be released for. They're, you know, and so there are ways, again, to collectively raise our voices to, you know, to say that these kinds of policies need to be put in place. And again, we think about prison populations as being isolated, but they're not. They're workers within these prisons that then go back to certain communities. So again, but they're not. They're workers within these prisons that then go back to certain communities. So again, you're not only, you're putting, you know,

prisoners are literally sitting in prisons, you know, some of them waiting, you know, for death because of the unsanitary conditions in prisons, because of, you know, the limited ability to quote-unquote isolate, but also the workers in those prisons are also at risk. And so, again, we do need to be pushing for and not politicizing this issue because it literally is a matter of life and death for those who are in prison right now and those affiliated with that population. All right, then. We certainly appreciate it. Hopefully they'll take a lot of that to heart.

We'll see what happens. Thank you. All right, going to a break. We come back. We're going to be talking about schools. What are they doing to keep our kids safe when it comes to coronavirus? Plus, this is a big deal.

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Math, science, arts, history but we don't expect them to find ways to ensure students have safe places to live or food to eat. In these uncertain times, there are schools who are doing just that. Joining me now is Benison Njaki, director of academics at Brooklyn Laboratory School, of course, in Brooklyn, New York. And we'll be joined in a moment by Mika Mika-Wolmoth, science department chair and career development instructor at DaVinci Rise High School in Los Angeles. All right, first, Benison, I'll go to you. And that is, I'm going to fire you in a second. That was this video that went around showing how we are so impacted by buffets due to coronavirus. Now, of course, we all know in school you got lunch lines,

you got kids who are eating in cafeterias. And so what have y'all been doing to keep the kids? Yeah, so just we started off with, you know, the closure, just thinking about the highest needs, you know, in terms of safety, just social, emotional wellness. And so one of the first things we did was really begin a conversation with families. And so what that looked like is we reached out and we've been reaching out for the past eight weeks to families. And we're simply asking, how can we be helpful and what are your highest needs? We've started a fund as a school.

It is the Brooklyn Laboratory Charter School Emergency Family Support Fund. And families can request and ask for anything they need, not just academics. And over the past few weeks, we've been lucky enough to be able to support with groceries, with medical needs, and also with housing. So we've sort of shifted our role and responsibility as a school to only deliver instruction, to really become a partner around getting families those essential, essential needs through this pandemic. And look, people are concerned. That was a topic yesterday in the hearing when Senator Rand Paul was like, got to get our kids back in school. And Fauci was like, wait a minute, hold up. Look, there's so much we still don't know about this. Yeah. And I mean, to that point, you know, one of the biggest areas that this pandemic has highlighted is that, you know, school closures led to 124,000 K-through institutions closing.

And when you think about that number, it actually drills down to seven and a half million children with special needs, right? And so these needs sometimes literally look like six to seven different adults. That helps a scholar from home to school and back. And so not knowing the sort of ways in which kids can continue to get infected and then the ways it can show up in the classroom. I mean, we work with kids, right? We serve grades six through 12. So we have the eight of the babies all the way to children who are going to college in a few months. So we really have to like step back and not be so quick to say things are ready to go back as they were. I mean, I'm clear based on just children, families. I'm in Brooklyn right now.

And, you know, you sort of hear the ambulances going back and forth all day and how that actually affects learning. We just have to be incredibly cautious to not re-anger the sort of trauma that kids are facing through this pandemic. There was a video that really went viral that showed uh what what what they were doing in some schools in china i would love to get i would love to get your thoughts to see if y'all might have to implement this all right folks go to my ipad watch this yeah hold on one second hold on right hold on优优独播剧场——YoYo Television Series Exclusive That's a whole lot. Listen, Rowan, like, I'll say this much, right?

When I watch those videos, it sort of raises, you know, concerns that we share as a school community. You know, we're in Brooklyn, New York. And so that just legitimately means that we have to address this differently. Based on the children we serve, we have children in wheelchairs that are coming to school. What does that entry process look like, right? And also, we are working and we're in spaces that are co-shared, right? So it's not a matter of just the spray down. But we also have to think about children who through this process have seen family members be carried out. They've seen those masks and have now attached a very different experience to that. And you're asking those children to put those masks on and go into schools. And so from a safety trauma, social emotional wellbeing,

I see the video and I acknowledge that I see how that's working in that context, but for us, we really have to be here in New York City, a little more intentional about not just doing it because others are doing it, but really being responsive to the sort of CDC guidance that has been out. And then also listening very closely to what our families are saying to us about what they're going to need to be able to say, yes, I can send my child to your institution and to your

school again. Greg and Recy. Yes. Listen, brother, much respect for you. I mean, it appears that the schools are really becoming in many ways first responders around the country with the homework packets, with food, with everything people need. Let me ask you, given the fact that it may very well be the case that we don't go back to school, certainly not maybe in the city where you are and in the People's Republic of Brooklyn, specifically in the fall. How are you all thinking about continuing once folks have stabilized? And of course, that's an ongoing process, but continuing the education of the children, particularly when we have challenges of access to wireless or even, you know, laptops or tablets and the homework packets.

Are you concerned about at some point the children continuing to develop educationally? And how are you beginning to think about addressing that long term? Yeah, so I think that in terms of going back and addressing the learning, we have to sort of understand that the learning is now unfinished, you know. And so when any time learning is unfinished, you have to not just pick up from where things are. You have to investigate and interrogate what that loss is and how we can reengage the scholar.

So it's going to be a very, very slow process that is informed by sort of the information and data we can reengage the scholar. So it's gonna be a very, very slow process that is informed by sort of the information and data we're getting from children about what they need. We have to listen very closely and pay attention to sort of the trend lines nationally around how kids feel entering that institution. I'll be first to tell you, it's not gonna be a,

we're returning back in the summer or in the fall. It's gonna be a slow sort of incremental approach and sort of like gauging what we're getting back as a process. Recy, then Erica. Hi. You mentioned about, you know, slowly reengaging things. I've seen some people suggest that perhaps the children should be kept back a year or, you know, like repeat the same grade. Is that something that you think sounds appropriate? Or do you think that that could lead to, you know, issues with kids feeling like it's some sort of deficiency or failure on their part if they have to quote unquote repeat the same grade? I would argue that it's incredibly dangerous to take that approach of holding children back.

Right. This is a planned event. And the idea that, you know, because kids have been out of school, they haven't been learning. It's absolutely it's not true. Right. We know that kids are always learning. But also, you know, what we've also discovered through this process is that the pandemic is sort of highlighted the level of inequity that happens, right? So we started with families and we said, do you need a computer? And folks were like, yes, some said they didn't have it. So we have to provide those access points. Once you provide those access points, now you have to think about, is there a strong internet access to be able to do the work we're asking for? Now that you provide that, you have to add

another layer that says, okay, what happens if a technology piece of the device breaks down, right? So when you have those sort of issues, we cannot take a punitive approach that says, well, let's do this year over, especially when the impact on children is lasting, right? So it's almost one of those things where we cannot punish the children who've always had the least by saying now you have to do three times more of the work because you weren't able to access a certain level of engagement on the platform.

So I will say any sort of conversation around holding children back because of the pandemic and because of the pandemic and because of the learning is absolutely not, doesn't serve our most vulnerable populations. What do you say to a family that has three to four children who haven't been in school and are just now being able to access individual educational plan provisions, right? They're service providers. And so it's very complex and it cannot be that we say, all right, this happened and go back and do it again. That's not effective. Erica? Yeah. Hi, Benetton. Thank you for the work that you're doing.

I wanted to ask you as a person that's from the rural South, understanding that New York unfortunately represents a quarter of the COVID fatalities. Is there any collaboration that you all are doing outside of New York with other educational organizations, school, to help specifically Black and Brown communities continue to progress through COVID along this educational track? Yes. So one of the first things we started to do beyond the sort of provisions we're doing in New York is thinking nationally, how do we begin a conversation that supports learners who are most vulnerable? So more specifically, we launched an alliance. It's called the Educating All Learners. So if you go to educatingalllearners.org, and it's a national platform where we're literally providing resources to say that if you have children who have these

learning needs, these are resources you can access. We have experts on the site. You can actually ask questions, get feedback. We're providing trainings, and we're really trying to completely provide a completely free platform that anybody can access. Anyone can get on there. Parents can get on there. And our goal with that is to understand that, yes, we're hit heavily in New York, but it's a national and global emergency, and we cannot sort of, you know, hoard resources as they come up. We've been learning from things that folks are doing all over the country in Chicago. We've been working with places in Connecticut and Florida. So we're really thinking through what is the best thinking around how we support black and brown children.

We know that, especially when it comes to education, equity is one of those things that just weighs a little heavier if you show up the way I look, right? And so we have to be incredibly intentional about that platform being a gateway. And it's a partnership, not just with Brooklyn Lab, it's with Innovate EDU. We've partnered with the National Organization for Special Education. And so we're really seeking out solutions and saying, if you have something that works, please share that resources and we'll connect you to the highest needs as

we see them. But we're definitely starting the solution with saying, how can we serve those who have the least before the pandemic? Because now they have so much further to go. All right. Benison, we appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot. Good luck. We're rolling. Friday, 06. Another alpha man up in here. You felt we appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot. Good luck. Rolling. Friday, 06.

All right. Another alpha man up in here. See, I— You felt that? Yeah, man. Y'all, I ain't even—see, y'all, I ain't even know these things. This is like the third day in a row. Greg, I keep telling the rest of these little youth groups, they can't touch us.

Come on, man. Your boys used to live in Brooklyn. Of course the educator is an alpha. Early, early, yeah, man. That's what I'm talking about, brother. Go ahead. Appreciate you, man. Thank you for having me.

I appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. All right, then, y'all. Of course, big deal on Saturday. Matter of fact, y'all can roll the video. Y'all should have it, right? Thank you. High schools may be closed. Graduation ceremonies may be canceled.

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including right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right. Y'all know what time it is. No charcoal girls are allowed. I'm white. I got you, girl. Illegally selling water without a permit. On my property.

Whoa! Hey! I'm uncomfortable. Y'all, today's viral video shows a delivery driver being held against his will in an Oklahoma City area neighborhood took place on Monday, blocked in by a man who identified himself as the homeowners association president. Travis Miller, a home appliance and furniture delivery driver, captured the encounter on his Facebook Live while driving through the neighborhood of Ashford Hills. Trying to leave. And I got super neighborhood, the super neighbor over here blocking me in.

So I'm going live. This is what I'm dealing with right now. This is what I'm dealing with right now. This is what I'm dealing with. This is who I'm dealing with. Napoleon, move out the way. My name's David Stewart. I don't care what your name is. Get out the way. I don't care.

Move out the way, sir sir you picked the wrong day move out the way so I can leave. I asked you one question. It's none of your business, and I asked you. It's none of my business. It is not. No, no, it is my business. Mm-hmm.

Why? You're the mayor of the Coles Act? I'm President's Overspoken. Okay. It's a private street. And apparently you need a gate code to get in here, right? That's correct. So how did I get in here?

I don't wanna know where you're going. It was none of your business. I'm going out. That's where I'm going, but you're in my way. I'm not arguing with you anymore. So then move out the way then. I'm not moving. All you have to do is tell me where you're going. I don't have to tell you shit and you're pissing me off. No, you do. No. I don't have to tell you shit. And you're pissing me off.

No, I don't. He's the president of the home. The Homeowners Association. What's going on? I'm trying to leave. Why? What do you mean, why? Why are we in here for?

None of your business? Yeah, it is. Of course it is. I live in here. Did I deliver it to your house? You didn't deliver anything. I know that. Because it's none of your business.

That's why. I'm just asking why you're in here. You're asking questions. You don't need to ask questions. All you need to do is have your buddy move his car so I can leave and go about my business. So did you make a wrong turn into a gated neighborhood? I need to have a gate code in order to get in, right? That's common sense, right? So if I had a gate, if I'm in here, I had a gate code, right?

That's none of your business, yet again. It sure as hell is it i'm not in the wrong i don't know who this is what's your name uh-huh uh just so you know more than you two guys live on this street too and you're not the only ones with gated with. You're warning us what? I'm not warning nobody. That's what you said. I did not. No, I did not.

And that's the reason why I'm recording, too. So just in case. I don't understand English. Apparently you don't. I'm in the wrong. Show me your badge then. Recy, by all means, take it away.

Let me explain something to the white folks watching this show. If you happen to be watching the show, you are not our overseers. We don't answer to you. We are not slaves anymore. We don't have to tell you a goddamn thing about where we're going. Mind your fucking business. If you're

so scared, if you're so concerned, then why don't you keep it moving? What they did in there was false imprisonment, and I hope that Travis Miller files a civil suit against those two gentlemen, as well as the Homeowner's Association, because they had absolutely no right to do

what they did. You don't know anything? You think your ability to just ask somebody a question trumps their ability to move freely? No. Like I said, we're not slaves anymore. Get the hell out the way. Now, if the situation had escalated even further, then it would have been on Travis Miller. It would have been on the black guy. I'm glad that he recorded it. And these men, you know, it's just what we see every day, all the day, people harassing us, making it seem like we don't belong where we belong. There's no reason that this man who's just trying to do his job is going to go into this gated community and do anything nefarious.

The only thing nefarious is what we saw those two white men doing to this black man. All right. Erica. Yeah, this is what white people walk in. They walk in believing that they have the ability to stop, question and assert a fall authority. To be quite honest with you, they should get the hell out of this country because they are the first illegal trespassers. And so to Reese's point, I'm very glad that this brother did in fact record it, but I'm also glad that he stood his ground and what he said in adjudicating that in order for him to be able to access this neighborhood, that he wouldn't need a gate code and that it was none of their damn business why he was there. And so again, this is another glimpse of what we're seeing, why black folks,

listen, acquiescence to whiteness does not preclude you from this type of activity from this type of aggression get your shit together because these folks and their president they mean business but we have like that brother also got to show them that we mean business too great how you gonna ask me where I'm going when I'm leaving? Dude, he got a big-ass truck. It's clear. He delivering something like, well, where you been?

Like he said, did I deliver something to your house while your ass asking? Look, I tip my cap to Brother Travis Miller for maintaining his humanity and for us for maintaining it as well. This is the fundamental contradiction in black life in this settler state. When we see ourselves as human, we ask questions like the one you just asked. It's common sense when you're a human being. But the fundamental contradiction is that this state,

as Erica has said, invaded by people who were illegal from their first presence, who then brought us here in the largest illegal forced migration in human history. This state does not see us as human. This is, you know, it's kind of we can laugh about it now because the brothers survived. But let's be very clear. These two Oklahoma paddle rollers are therollers are the Oklahoma equivalent of the McMichaels' father and son in Georgia. The concept of the pat-a-roller comes out of the 19th century, the so-called slave patrols. These are, to quote one African who gave his testimony after enslavement was over during restructuring, he said, the pat-a-rollers, the slave patrols, served a function for black people that the police served for white people. In other words, the job of the pat-a-roller is to restrict black movement, to control black bodies.

Well, what we see is that in the United States of America, the function of the pat-a-roller and the function of the police are pretty much the same. So any random white person is deputized with police powers when it comes to policing black bodies, which leads me to this. Finally, what we saw Travis Miller do is a manual in some ways for how you almost have to approach this. Number one, you keep your cool. Number two, you if you can record and stream live stream has become very important. Number three. And you see later he called the police. Now you've got to be a little tactical about this, because, again, these random white people are patty rollers, which means what? The police show up depending on who the cop is. They look at these white men like deputy police. So now you've got to be careful. But finally, you then, when you finally

escape the situation, because we all know from growing up, they would tell us when you have an encounter with the police and including little deputy wannabe police like this, your job is to escape that encounter with your life. You don't get no argument right there, which is why I tip my cap. But finally, when you escape, you document it, and then you do what you need to do so that we're talking about it now, which means they are on alert that we're not just going to take that L. And I found it fascinating that one of those guys called

his employer later and said, take down the Facebook live post. Because again, of course, when you're a white man, you can call another white man on a black person and say, hey, I still want some punishment even though I was in the wrong to begin with. Hold on, who called?

The employer. I mean, the guy, one of the guys out there, I think Stewart, he called the furniture company. Wait, wait, wait. One of the two white guys called the brother's employer and said, y'all tell him to take it down.

Yes, sir. Because that's the job of Pat Arrola. Now, help me out. I'm trying to understand. So they would try to tell him, this is a private driveway. Why are you here? But you're going to ask me to take down a video

on my damn page? That's the Pat Arrola mentality, brother. Every white person can be a deputy police when it comes to a black woman or man. Look. You one of them rogue black people. You do what you want. You know, you're one of them rogue

Negroes. Y'all do what y'all want. Y'all better not roll up on Erica. First of all, I'm telling y'all, I'll let y'all know right now. When he got his punk ass out of his car, I would have put that shit in reverse, drove my ass on that grass. Yes, sir.

I would have put that truck on that grass and drove around and then shot their ass to finger driving off. That's what I would have done. Yes, sir. First of all, let me help everybody at home. Y'all, the live stream went 40 plus minutes. Yeah.

This wasn't no five minute conversation. Y'all, we edited that. That means that they sat in that truck dealing with these fools for almost 45 minutes. I'm telling y'all, that would have been some track marks in that damn grass. Right.

From my truck. But then, Roland, would you have a situation like Ahmaud Arbery, where they chased him down in a truck? And so even that, you still have to be careful. So I do applaud Travis Miller for the way he conducted himself. But also, I don't know if you guys noticed, when they made the comment, oh, is that a warning? See, that's how they start to set you up and try to, you know,

portray the situation differently, which is why it's so important to record these encounters, because next thing you know, oh, he was threatening me and they're on the phone with the police establishing their pretext, like the McMichaels did, for what they're going to do and be, you know, deputized

in the slave patrol and that mentality just go down and mess with black people. Hey, hey, hey. I just need, I just need, listen. Any of y'all white folks pull this on rolling. I just want y'all to understand. Anthony, give me a shot.

Y'all see this bag right here? This bag right here is always with me. I'm just letting y'all ass know. I got four phones. Four. Four. iPhone Pro Max, iPhone Pro Max, Google Pixel 4, and Figures Wireless. I'm letting y'all ass know.

I'm going to have you streaming on every platform you sit here. I'm just letting you know. Look, and I'm gonna be shooting horizontal the whole time so I can fill the whole screen up when your ass, and look, I'm just letting you roll. And see, look, I'm telling you, hey, I'm gonna be Steven Spielberg,

Spike Lee on your ass if I'm shooting. I'm just letting you know. So everybody black, please, I want y'all to keep streaming. I want y'all to keep filming these fools, and we gonna keep exposing the segment. I had somebody email me. I had, what's that

fool, yeah, y'all, what's that fool, Deontay, a little black Republican? I'll be just destroying his ass on the show, because he ain't never prepared. And so he gonna try to tweet me one day, how would you feel if somebody white had a segment called Crazy Ass Black People? I'm like, yo, that's just called Fox

News. Right. You know what? Right. It was called Diamond and Silk until about a month ago. So, bottom line is this here, okay? If white people stop doing crazy stuff, and look, there's some good white folk. They not on that segment. But

them crazy ass fools, I going to keep showing it every time. And that's going to be the sit-up. Crazy-ass white people. All right, y'all. We got to go. Before we go, here are the folks who have joined our Bring the Funk fan club to listen to y'all. Okay, now look. Some of y'all have hit me saying, why can't I get a shout-out?

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I want to see what they got up. Y'all, the Prince Estate, okay, let me pull up. The Prince Estate is doing something major. The Prince Estate is showing, y'all, Reesa, you a Prince fan? Oh, absolutely. Okay, uh, Greg, uh, Prince fan? Roland, I saw your Twitter and I already hit my people in Minneapolis. They are fired up.

So, y'all, here's the deal. Here's the deal, okay? Uh, so, what's happening is the Prince estate, what they're doing is, uh, they are showing, they're doing a fundraiser for coronavirus. They are showing this 1985 concert from Prince. It's streaming at 8 p.m. Eastern today through 11.59 p.m. on Sunday. On Sunday, 100% of the proceeds are going to COVID-19 relief.

Now, I was just pulling it up. Let's see what they got going on. So if you go to the page, this is what you're seeing right now. Anthony, pull it up. Y'all, this is the concert. Right now, they've never streamed it before. So this is from 1985. So y'all go to the Prince

YouTube channel. Check it out between right now and 11.59pm on Sunday. Hope y'all enjoy. Prince was a bad brother. Look, he loved what I did. I found out after he died how much a huge fan he was. And so, man, look, we certainly miss him. He's been gone

for years. Purple Rain came out in 1984, right? Yeah, so this is like so. Watch that concert, brother. So in this concert, in this concert, I just had the story. He's singing all hits. It's like 16 or 20 songs he's singing. Y'all, it was on VHS.

It disappeared. Folks have not seen this in two decades. You can watch it right now on YouTube now on Sunday. And so shout out to the Prince of State for certainly appreciating that, for putting that out there. Recy, thanks a bunch. Erica, thanks a bunch. Greg, thanks a bunch.

One thing. One thing. Which one? Roland. Yeah. Oh, I want to say shout out to Patrick Outlaw. You shouted him out. That's my bonus dad.

So I appreciate his support. That's your bonus dad? Yeah, my stepdad. My mom's husband. Oh, I bonus dad? Yeah, my stepdad. My mom's husband. Oh, I was about to say, what the hell? Black people in these play daddies and that's why I was like, bonus daddy. He's married to my mother.

He's married to my mother. Oh, all right. Oh, okay. Well, we appreciate his support, but she threw me off grid because see, here's the deal. All right, y'all know how I roll. I got one mama and one daddy.

I don't call nobody else mama and daddy. Okay. You might be in the minority on that. No, bro. I got a whole lot of brothers and sisters. Matter of fact, my sister's husband was saying, well, mom and dad, I don't think he was talking about his parents. I was like, oh, he's like, oh, you're talking about mine.

Right. I said, oh, my bad. I said, I'm sorry. That's Mr. and Mrs. Martin. I don't know who. You got him. No, I don't know who. You know, I'm trying. No, I don't do that. I don't do that. I ain't call my wife's mama, mama.

I was like, what's her name? That's Miss Hood. I got one mama. OK. Oh, yeah. First of all, you heard me say my sister's husband. That's true. I don't say brother-in-law.

That's true. Wow. No, it no it's not no i'm just being i ain't never i don't say sister-in-law who that that's my brother that's my brother's wife martin called your parent i don't know what she called him i don't know what she called him now i've heard I've heard her say mom and dad look at her like. Oh. Oh, no, I'm just. I've always been. I don't look. Hey, hey.

Hey, hey, hi, Ro. That's why she threw me. She's like, bonus, dad. I was like, you like a quiz show? I understood. I understood, Reesey. It's your bonus dad. And he's supporting Roland Martin.

I'm feeling it. Oh, I appreciate it. All right. So Patrick Outlaw. That's a hell of a last name. It's a great last name. Fields. Oh, I appreciate it. Alright, so... So Patrick Outlaw. That's a hell of a last name. It's a great last name. My mom is Yvette Outlaw. Shout out to her, too. Oh, that's Bonnie and Clyde

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