#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 5.27 #GeorgeFloyd protests continue; Officer fired over virus comment; Effigy of KY Go. hung in tree

Episode Date: June 9, 2020

5.27.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: #GeorgeFloyd protests continue; Kaplan, Louisiana officer fired over 'unfortunate' virus comment; Kwame Kilpatrick is not leaving prison early; Effigy of Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear hung in a tree; Black entrepreneurs racially profiled at private gym; Lamont King joins us for a comedy break Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered Partner: Ceek Be the first to own the world's first 4D, 360 Audio Headphones and mobile VR Headset. Check it out on www.ceek.com and use the promo code RMVIP2020 - The Roland S. Martin YouTube channel is a news reporting site covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Folks, today is Wednesday, May 27th, 2020, coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Protests continue over the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis cops. We will talk with the family attorney, Ben Crump, as well as his brother and cousin right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Also, we will share with you what took place yesterday, the protests in Minneapolis. Cops responded with tear gas and rubber bullets. When the white folks were protesting, it wasn't quite the same reaction. A Louisiana cop has been

fired for posting on Facebook that he wishes the coronavirus had killed more black people. Kwame Kilpatrick, former mayor of Detroit, not getting out of prison will tell you what is going on. Plus, remember the white guy who hung the governor of Kentucky in effigy? He's lost his job. That's what happens when you act a damn fool. Plus, today's crazy-ass white person is from Minneapolis waiting to see this venture capitalist upset with these brothers in the gym.

Plus, comedian Lamont King is here for Wildin' Out Wednesday. It's time to bring the funk on Roland Martin Unfiltered. Let's go. He's got it Whatever the mess, he's on it Whatever it is, he's got the smooth, the fat, the fine Let's rolling. It's Uncle Roro, y'all. It's rolling Martin. Rolling with rolling now.

He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best. You know he's rolling, Martin. Now. Martin. Folks, a new video was released that shows what happened before Minneapolis cops murdered George Floyd. This is taken from a convenience store right where the cops were from a different angle, though. Watch this video. There, folks, is that right hand corner police car pulls up. You see the officer sit George Floyd down right there on the pavement. Now, allegedly, he had forged a check at a convenience store. A third cop shows up.

You see two cops on the scene. Then a third cop shows up on the scene. And so you see the officer. You see George Floyd there on the right cooperating. You see him. You don't see him belligerent. Now, granted, there's no audio on this, but you're seeing his demeanor. You're seeing how he is acting. Now, this is a two minute and 26 video.

Keep in mind the total exchange that took place of 10 minutes. And so you see he's talking to the officer. You see a couple of officers there. One of them has a mask on. The other two do not have masks or gloves on. And they're taking information. And then, of course, again, we're just watching this. And so you see the officer who's talking to him. You don't see George Floyd. Remember, the cops said that George Floyd was being belligerent in how they had to, how they had to handle them. We don't see any of that in this particular video. A stark contrast

to what the officers actually said. And so right now, you're going to see the officer, I think in a moment, about to lift George Floyd up. And again, he's talking to him and you see Floyd, he's leaning to the left there while the officer, now the officer reaches down, not sure what he reached down to put in his pocket. And so now at this particular point, he's lifting George Floyd up. Floyd is trying to help himself up, get up as well.

Again, we don't see Floyd's head, don't see his face. Now we see him, uh, who's he's now, you know, walk him away. And so obviously Floyd looks like he's in pain, uh, with how he, how he's being held. He's not resisting. He's not fighting back. He's not any of that. You see them now walking George Floyd, uh, over to the car. And it's at this point is when they're going to go on the other side of the police car. And so you see they're out of frame. They're out of frame. Now they're going actually they're actually going across the street. Joining us right now is the attorney for for the family, Ben Crump.

Ben, I'm going gonna go to you first. We also, of course, are joined by George Floyd's brother, Tara Brown, as well as George Floyd's cousin. I'm gonna get to them in a moment. Ben, I wanna deal with you. Okay, so first of all, we've seen the video where they're walking him across the street. Was that where the altercation took place,

where he ended up being murdered by these cops? So set that scene for us. Well, we know that it was a convenience store. They allege that he has some allegation of for well, there seems to be no resistance by George. He's not making any violent threats towards the police officer. So we are just confused as to understand why they feel the need to use such excessive force that ended up being lethal. And when they're walking him down that street, we can't understand what is going on

unless they are trying to get him to go back to the store where he allegedly had the forgery at. But they haven't told the family anything at this point because they say it's an ongoing investigation, Roland Martin. But nothing in that investigation would be able to justify that police officer putting his knee on his neck for nine minutes. Not one minute, not two minutes, not three minutes,

not four minutes, not five minutes, not six minutes, not seven minutes, not eight minutes, but nine minutes. And I do that for dramatic effect, Roland Martin, because people have to understand, for nine minutes, George Floyd begged for air. He begged to say, please take your knee off my neck. I can't breathe. He even called out for his mother.

I mean, this is a man who's obviously trying to breathe, but yet the police offer him no humanity whatsoever. And that's why when you look at that video, it's hard to watch because what you're looking at, Roland Martin, is a murder. And here again, so you said they got called because allegedly he was forging a check. Well, they... Does that require four cops?

Yeah, it doesn't require four cops. And we don't believe there ever was a forgery, Roland. And so that's what we think is even more problematic about this. George committed no crime, but even if he committed a $10, well, as they said, they thought the $10 bill might not be real, which is asinine. But even if that was the case, does that justify four cops manhandling this man in this manner? He's handcuffed or rolling when he's down with his face down and they put their knee on his neck and there's three officers on him and one officer keeping the public back who's trying to offer him assistance. They're begging the police. It's not the police de-escalating the situation.

It seems like they're escalating it. Members of the public trying to de-escalating the situation. It seems like they're escalating it. Members of the public trying to deescalate the police. And, uh, again, so in the video there, now, that was taken at a convenience store. Uh, and they... He's being led across the street. And so, I-I would love to understand, in terms of, you know, where is he going, and was this, you know, was...

First of all, was this the scene? Was this where, uh, he ended up, uh, originally getting know, was first of all, was this the scene? Was this where he ended up eventually getting killed? Was it another spot as well in this particular video here? Because, again, at the conclusion of this video, he's laid across the street somewhere else. And so do you know how long this entire altercation was, meaning from the moment the cops arrived on the scene till the moment EMS came there? Like, how much time are we talking about? We don't know that at this point,

but we do know that the incident with the officer who had his knee on his neck lasted nine minutes. And that officer was not there, Roland, at the beginning of this interaction with the police. And we do know when the EMS got there, they did not seem to be all that enthused about moving him quickly. It seems like there was delay in that too.

So we wanna look at every aspect of this murder and put it in context, what happened before and what happened after, because that's the only way sitting here who are on social media and they say, oh, Ben Crump and his civil rights lawyers fail again. I got to keep reminding people, y'all aren't the prosecutors. You're not even trying any of these cases. And so I think people misunderstand that. Yeah, Roland, it's often the case, and you're a student of history. We know Thurgood Marshall and Martin Luther King, they always had critics when they were the people

who were fighting for our rights and fighting for our culture, but yet sometimes our people, for whatever reason, would attack them. But the thing that is good for people like you and I, Roland, we know what our mission is in life, and we look forward, and we don't look back, and you don't worry about anything they say because you know God is using you for a mission. And our mission is to use this education, this talent, this law degree,

and try to make a difference to give justice to our people. The prosecutor is the only person who can arrest somebody and convict somebody. All we can do as private citizens is bring Rome for Death civil suits and try to advocate for our clients to make sure they get justice. But it's on all of us, because if that prosecutor does not do it, then we need to get rid of that prosecutor. And I'm very proud to say, Roland, and at the mouth of every high-profile case that we had, the prosecutors got defeated, whether it was in Trayvon Martin with Aramis Ayala in Orlando, whether it was in Ferguson, Missouri, where Wesley Bale became the first African-American to get elected, or whether it was in Tamir Rice, when that prosecutor failed to do his

job. So the power is with the people. And we're all in this together. And we should try to be uplifting each other and trying to be united for justice versus trying to say oh this person as I should do this and this person should do that we should have elected officials that treat our children like they treat their children because it's about equal justice in America and if George Floyd is going to get a conviction, it's going to be because all of us collectively held the prosecutor's feet to the fire, just like with Ahmaud Arbery, just like with Breonna Taylor and all these other cases.

It's only us coming together to hold the prosecutor's feet to the fire. We did it in Botham Jones. We did it in Corey Jones recently. The prosecutors have been doing their jobs, but we have to stay on them. I do want to ask you this question here. A lot of people are very critical of the response last night from Minneapolis police to those who were out protesting, firing of tear gas, rubber bullets. They juxtaposed that when you had white folks with the state capitol

who were complaining about having to wear masks or shelter in place, and you didn't see the exact same reaction from cops absolutely roland when you think about it it's always the rules change when it's people of color trying to exercise our constitutional rights when you have the uh conservative folks at the Mission Capital saying, we got First Amendment rights to express ourselves on, we want to open back up the country, regardless of it might cause people to die from the coronavirus. Well, it was no problem when they wanted to exercise their First Amendment rights. But when we want to come and exercise our rights to say that George Floyd life mattered, then the police say, oh, y'all not

social distancing, y'all not doing this. Come up with every textbook reason based on discrimination to try to deny people of color, especially black people, our constitutional rights. And so what we have to keep doing is using our voice

to call them out every chance they try to act like there are two justice systems in America, one for African Americans and one for white America. Now, it has to be equal justice for the United States of America. And like my mentor Thurgood Marshall said, I know that the Constitution wasn't meant for us when it was first signed, but we're American citizens and we're going to make the Constitution ours no matter what they say. All right, Ben Crump was attorney for the family

of George Floyd. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you so much, Roland. Folks, in the aftermath of these sort of incidents, there's always this goal of painting folks in a certain and unique way. Well, George Floyd was not somebody

who was simply a silent person. Corey Paul was a friend of his from Third Ward, Texas. Those of us who are from Houston, Third Ward. Of course, George went to Jack Yates High School, same place where I graduated. And this is what Corey posted this video about his dear friend, Floyd. So I was making the video about the lady who was lying on the black man about threatening her life.

You know what I'm saying? I got you, baby. About threatening her life, supposedly. And I got the grief. George Floyd. George Floyd. The man who was murdered by the police in Minneapolis. And they're going to try to probably come out with all kinds of stuff afterwards and justify this. But I knew Floyd personally.

You know what I'm saying? I knew Floyd personally. And when we were doing ministry in Third Ward, Floyd was one of the people who was our person of peace. He's one of the people we would connect with, you know what I'm saying? To be, because he wanted to see change in the community, you know what I'm saying? He wanted to see us come together as a people. He wanted to see all the things that have been stripped from us, giving back, you know?

And so it started hitting home. You know what I mean? It started hitting home because I'm black. It started hitting home because, man, I know the people that's senselessly being murdered. You know what I mean? And so, man, we trying to be around and raise our kids and raise our children. And, you know, it's evil in this world that don't want that to happen so this need to spark us up man this need to really spark us and be that change you know i'm saying and don't just sit around and wait on nothing you know but go out and get it in the sense of being that light

and knowing that it's consequences um to what they uh keep doing to us man as i said uh floyd uh graduated from jack Yates High School in Houston, Texas. Go to my iPad, please. This is a photo of him in his football uniform, number 88 for Yates. In 1992, Jack Yates played Temple in the Class 5A state championship game. Here was a piece of video. We went online and found this video of Floyd congratulating one of the Yates players after scoring a touchdown. Guys, go ahead and roll that video, please.

This is from the game here. You see Floyd there, number 88. I was actually at that game. That game took place in Killeen. That's where it was played. And again, it was 1992. Yates versus Temple. Temple came out on top in that game of that state championship game. Then a number of other videos, Stephen

Jackson, who played 14 years in the NBA. We know him from the Indiana Pacers, was a very good friend of his. He also has talked about Floyd and he also has talked about, first of all, they call themselves twins, but call them twins because they looked alike. And so a number of people have been sharing their thoughts and perspectives about George Floyd. Lots of videos out there as well. We're going to show a couple of those in just one moment. Right now, we'll talk about the protesters. Thousands of protesters, folks, flooded the streets at the same intersection where George Floyd was killed. And that took place in the protest yesterday afternoon.

They packed the area and were also spread out to try to be socially distant. Now, officers then showed up in riot gear. Y'all can roll the video, please. Officers showed up in riot gear and started firing tear gas and flash grenades as protesters hurled rocks, water bottles, and anything they could get their hands on towards the officers. I remember yesterday, Nekima Levy Armstrong, the civil rights attorney with the Racial Justice Network, she was on with us. She could barely hear us because the crowd was so loud.

And so she joins us right now along with Leslie Redmond, president of the Minneapolis NAACP. Nakima, first and foremost, people are still protesting today. But how long were you out there yesterday? And what precipitated Minneapolis police all of a sudden using tear gas and firing rubber bullets? I was out there from about 5 p.m. until roughly 8 p.m., and it was a peaceful protest. I mean, thousands of people. It was actually the largest protest that I've ever been a part of. And it was amazing to see so many people out wearing their masks, standing up for justice. And the reality is that there were some folks who are, of course, extremely angry and outraged

at what George Floyd experienced. And those people stayed around after the protests ended. And some of them broke windows out of the third precinct. Some of them also, you know, put graffiti on some of the walls around third precinct. Some of them also put graffiti on some of the walls around the precinct. And after a period of time, suddenly we heard a loud boom and then we saw flashes of light and then smoke clouds,

which were tear gas being thrown at protesters. There weren't any warnings. Folks just started experiencing being tear at protesters. There weren't any warnings. You know, folks just started experiencing being tear gassed. Police later shot rubber bullets, projectiles at people as well. They were in full riot gear. And obviously people have been talking about how that happened, but you didn't see the same reaction to cops when you had protesters in the state cap country.

Absolutely. I mean, we know that as people of color, particularly black people, when we are rising up and we are standing up and protesting against police violence, we are going to be subjected to the potential for police abuse and harassment. I saw the same thing in Ferguson. We've had the same types of incidences happen in Minnesota when we've been protesting. So it doesn't come as a surprise that they're going to be fully ready

and treat us like we're enemies of the state, even though the whole reason that we're out there is to protest the conduct of state actors. So it's just, it's really ridiculous that protesters are treated this way. The overwhelming majority are peaceful. And even the ones who are upset about what's going on have a right to be upset because of the fact that George Floyd was unnecessarily murdered by the Minneapolis Police Department. So I don't fault those young people one bit. I don't condone, you know, any property destruction, but I also understand why they did what they did.

I now want to go to, of course, here the NAACP there in Minneapolis, and that is Leslie Redmond. Leslie, obviously there are tensions. People are upset. People are angry about what is taking place. Now you have the mayor. I'm going to play in a second with the mayor. He is now pressuring the district attorney to saying these four cops should be charged with murder. Yes, and it's the right move. I also want to make sure that we bring to attention Chief Aragondo, who is the first African-American chief of police that we've ever had in Minneapolis. And he was the one who made the call to fire those four officers. And this is something that was unprecedented. You never see almost a 24-hour term. He takes bold, courageous statements and say what we saw was horrendous and we need to rectify this situation.

And so that was a huge deal. And I think that it created a platform to make the right decision for calling for these officers to be prosecuted. And this is something that we've been calling for as well. In fact, this is the mayor right here speaking today in his call for the DA to step up. And I've wrestled with more than anything else over the last 36 hours one fundamental question. Why is the man who killed George Floyd not in jail? If you had done it, or I had done it, we would be behind bars right now. And I cannot come up with a good answer to that question. And so I'm calling on Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman to act on the

evidence before him. I'm calling on him to charge the arresting officer in this case. We cannot turn a blind eye. It is on us as leaders to see this for what it is and call it what it is. George Floyd deserves justice. His family deserves justice. The black community deserves justice. And our city deserves justice. That, of course, is Mayor Jacob Fry there. Nakima, to Leslie's point, how quickly things move. Now, obviously, again, firing is one thing. Arrest, trial and conviction is another. But I think this points to folks understanding public protest and pressure and why those things matter because of how fast this chief moved to fire these four cops.

Absolutely. We've been pounding the pavement here for the last five years, demanding police accountability, transparency, systemic reforms, and justice. And it was our activism and our advocacy that actually led to us having the first black police chief in the history of the city of Minneapolis. And because we have a black police chief who's history of the city of Minneapolis. And because we have a black police chief who's connected to the community, we can actually pick up the phone and call the chief. We can text him. We can let him know about things happening in the community. And being able to connect with the chief, be able to present our perspective on what's happening played a role in the chief looking at this

situation differently than other chiefs have in the past and showing courageous leadership by holding these cops accountable. It really should be a no-brainer for these cops to be fired, but it has been difficult, if not impossible, for an officer to be fired for killing a black person. I have not seen that happen. Most of the officers who have killed black people in the city of Minneapolis, they're still on the force to this day, still collecting a paycheck, preparing for a pension, which is completely unacceptable. Sorry, Leslie, your response as well.

I couldn't agree with Nikima anymore. I think that it's true, and people really do need to know that people on the ground have been fighting since Jamar Clark, right? We said justice for Jamar. That's what led to 18-day occupation in the fourth precinct. And we will not stop fighting until Floyd gets justice. It's like Ida B. Wells, one of the founders of the NAACP, she used to say,

a man was lynched today. And that's exactly what we saw. We saw a lynching without the rope. And enough is enough. Not only do we need justice for Floyd, but we need justice for the black community so that this can stop happening and we won't have to protest.

The National NAACP started a hashtag, we are done dying. And I just want to echo those sentiments. Obviously, the next steps. Have we heard from DA? Has the DA said anything? Nakima? We haven't heard from Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, who has a history of failing to hold police officers accountable.

As a matter of fact, the only killer cop that he's held accountable was a black Muslim Somali man, Mohammed Noor, who I believe accidentally shot and killed an affluent white woman, Justine Damon. So his history is giving cops a pass, a slap on the wrist, et cetera. But tonight, people are at his house right now protesting outside of his house, demanding justice and demanding charges in this case. And I applaud them for going there. Sometimes you have to take the battle right to the front door of the person who is responsible for making the decisions. And that's what needs to happen here. Nakema Levy Armstrong, as well as Leslie Redman. We certainly appreciate

it. Thanks a lot. Thanks. Folks, as I mentioned to you, Steven Jackson, NBA veteran, took to social media to talk about his friend and how George Floyd mattered to him. Here's some of that video. This is what I gotta wake up to, huh? Floyd was my brother, man. We called each other twin, bro. Everybody know me and Floyd called each other twin.

My brother only was out there in Minnesota. He was changing his life. He went to Minnesota. He was driving trucks. I had just sent him two, three boxes of clothes. My boy was doing what he's supposed to do, man. Y'all go and kill my brother, man. I'm on my way to Minnesota, man.

Whatever I can do. Can't let this ride, dog. Y'all not gonna be mad till it hits y'all front, dog. It's bullshit to wake up to, huh? This what... Steven Jackson there. All kind of people have been responding. In fact, I told you, his friend, Mr. Paul, this was one of the videos that he posted of Floyd.

Go right ahead. Saw my old girl Nikki from South Lawn lost her son, man. Our young generation is clearly lost, man. Clearly lost, man. Like, I don't even know what to say no more, man. Like, you youngsters just going around, just busting guns in crowds. Kids getting killed. You know, and it's clearly the generation after us man

that's so lost man you know man i came into houston and the nigga told me yeah floyd that young nigga the truth man right there because he could bust a gun man i knew it was crazy then the nigga my age saying this here man you know what i'm saying and condoning this shit bro you know what i'm saying and like half them young niggas shooting them guns go home and they need shaking at night. But they don't shoot nobody because, you know, they ain't tough then. Hey, man, come on home, man. One day it's going to be you and God.

You going up or you going down. You know what I'm saying? Man, just saw my old girl Nikki from San Juan. Corey Paul, Corey Paul, his good friend, posted that particular video and talking about that. Also, this reporter, who is Alex Thomas, he's a journalist, he posted a video of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar speaking to reporters here in D.C. about this particular murder. Watch this. It's a life, and no police officer should be

judge, jury and executioner. And so if any of us today took a life in the way that police officer took that life, we would be in handcuffs being pulled over to a jail cell and being prosecuted for murder. And we live in a society where that doesn't automatically happen, where the mayor of Minneapolis has to call for that, where we all have to make statements asking for that. And I remember when Officer Noor was prosecuted and found guilty. Now, that's a black police officer who killed a white woman. And that moved swiftly. And we keep finding ourselves in situations

when the opposite happens. There is no equal justice, and there is no equality in a system that's supposed to guarantee. They say lady justice is blind and we want lady justice to be blind to our color and to recognize our humanity equally as everyone else. I'm going to bring in my panel, A. Scott Bolton, the former chair of National Bar Association Political Action Committee. Robert Petillo, he's executive director of Rainbow Push Coalition, Peachtree Street Project. Amisha Cross, political analyst and Democratic strategist. I'll start with you, Scott. When you look at the reaction from people, when we look at what we, of course,

just as outpouring, the fact that these officers were fired 24 hours after the fact, I mean, what I keep hearing, I mean, I've had black entertainers call me they who are pissed, who are angry. They're saying, you know, people who are just literally upset by saying, how many more times are we going to have to deal with black blood being spilled in order for things to change in this country? We've got to keep up the fight for one. But they're calling you, Roland, because this is the most powerful video I've seen in 35 years as a former prosecutor

and as a criminal defense lawyer. And the power of this video and what really strikes you at your heart is that it is silent, it is slow, it is 10 minutes with a knee on his neck. He was suffocated, right? Now, this wasn't him running from the police

and them shooting him in the back like in South Carolina. This wasn't a struggle over cigarettes or selling cigarettes. He was not resisting. They had complete control of him. Now, if something happened between the time they walked him away and how he wound up on the ground, notice the police in that video did not challenge that officer. That officer was senior to those other police officers, whether there was an exchange with the deceased or the detainee or that officer, something happened.

And then you see 10 minutes of the public narrating his journey to death. It was a narration. The knee was on the neck. He looked up and looked at the crowd. He sneered, went back, looked back down to make sure his pressure was there, looked around. He knew he was killing this young man.

Or if he didn't know, he certainly was treating him worse than an animal. But it was silent. There was no resistance. So you watched the murder take place. That's what is getting the reaction to this. There's absolutely no reason why these officers ought not be charged right away. And more importantly, my good friend Robert Petillo, who was on, this is one where the Fourth Amendment, his rights are violated. You may get your civil, your U.S. civil rights or DOJ civil rights prosecution on this one, because there is no other fact or intent here other than to violate this gentleman's rights and to essentially kill him. He had his knee on his

neck. He suffocated him slowly in front of everybody while the crowd narrated what was going on. It was just tremendous. It was awful. Robert, what was interesting, again, watching the video that we're not going to show, we showed it yesterday, so don't need to show it again, was that, Robert, we're watching this. Nobody tells the cop, say, dog, get off his neck, put your knee on his back. I mean, the reality is this here. Okay, first of all, I've never detained anybody. But I can tell you, as somebody who's done a horseplay

with nieces and nephews, if I'm trying to hold down one of my nephews, I'm not going to put my knee on his neck so that he can't breathe. I mean, give me a break. He's handcuffed. He's down. And this officer literally

his hands are in his pocket chilling. Just chilling. And the guy's talking, he's kind of like, I don't give a damn if he's talking. He look at the crowd like, what? What?

I can't breathe. Robert, I mean, this was just complete callous behavior of this cop. Well, and rolling on that point, I think that part of the video is what's going to determine whether or not this is, in Minnesota, their first, second, and third degree murder.

What more likely is going on right now is conversation between the Fraternal Order of Police and their attorneys, and also the state's attorney's office regarding what the charges will be when he will be charged and when he'll turn himself in. I don't see a set of circumstances currently where those officers will not be arrested and charged he'll turn himself in. I don't see a set of circumstances currently where those officers will not be arrested and charged. It's just a question of what those charges will be and when they'll make the strongest case. Reverend Jackson today had the opportunity to speak with Keith Ellison, the attorney general there in Minnesota. So there's also the chance of state charges coming down and the Department of Justice has already launched an investigation into hate crimes violations in this case. So what people have to remember on this question of

malice murder or first degree murder with intent, intent can be formed in an instant. So at the point that the man was detained, at the point that he no longer posed any flight risk, any sort of threat, when that officer looked up at the camera and smirked, that is the forming of an intent to kill. He knew or should have known that his actions could be reasonably calculated to cause the death of another. That constitutes malice afterthought, which would bring this from third-degree murder being a reckless or negligent killing into the realm of being a first-degree murder,

where you form intent. Because this isn't a situation where he was accidentally holding someone down and their neck snapped on accident, or where you hit a fleeing subject with your car and killed them. This is a situation where you slowly and methodically killed a person over the course of several minutes. And I don't see some circumstances where you cannot charge that as being a malice ever thought and a first degree murder. So these are the conversations that are going on behind the closed doors. I don't see us going into the weekend without an arrest being made. Amisha, we talk about where we are. The tremendous amount of anger among African Americans is very clear. I'm going to play a clip. This was for a debate that took place years ago on the Dick Cavett Show,

where this white professor from an Ivy League school was essentially saying to James Baldwin, why can't you just calm down when it comes to these instances? I just want to play this. Watch this. That right there, Amisha, speaks again. And see, what happens is when you have these people, when you have the Candace Owens and you have the Jason Whitlocks who go, oh, LeBron, oh, you shouldn't bring these things up because you're of means. And so, therefore, you're not impacted by that. Well, Steven Jackson.

Steven Jackson has made millions in the NBA, but he was friends with a George Floyd. You saw the tears. He's impacted. The cops didn't do it to Steven Jackson, but they did to Steven Jackson's friend. So when people somehow say that because you might have a certain education or you are of means, this does not impact you. Well, Christian Cooper went to Harvard, is of means, and a white woman sure want to call the cops on him in Central Park. I don't care who you are. If you are black in America, you are affected by the reality of your race. Exactly. And it's an important narrative to to point out and call it out whenever we see it rolling, because there is an ideology in this country that there is something known as the good black person or the Black person who is educated, the Black person whose

career is spotless, the Black person who has never had any criminal interaction with the police. All of a sudden, that person is elevated as someone who will never have to encounter any type of racial injustice. And we've seen that be completely untrue time and time again. There is absolutely no reason why we should have a case in Minneapolis where a police officer would literally have his knee on someone's neck and watch him die. You had so many people who were just standing there in the crowd calling out, begging this officer to remove his knee. We're watching now video after video, and Black people don't need these videos. Voyeurism has never moved us to action. We know what's happening in our community. We know how other blacks are targeted. White people need these videos. But even with them,

they fail to step towards the action that they need to. In Minneapolis, over $6.4 million has been utilized for equity training amongst the police department itself. Still, we have 13 times the rate of black police-invol involved killings than they do anybody else. So I think that, you know, we also have to look at that. The fact that these racial equity trainings and these lenses that we fund to the utmost when it comes to trying to get police and policing unions to see that black people a significant portion of the American population, of the white population in our institutions that are dead set on making sure that black people are having an experience that is very different from the rest of this country. We see it in the way that these instances play out in the media. We see it in black protests being labeled as riots, whereas white protesters are out there with their guns, rifles, everything else, and are not seen as dangerous in any way. We see it when we're literally trying to call for justice

and those calls are not heard. Just what last week, we had Republicans, black and white, shout down what they saw as a racist comment from Joe Biden. However, where are they now? Where are these same people? Where's Lindsey Graham? Where are these folks who found such racism in those comments? But when racism leads to death, you don't hear anything from them. Well, in fact, we have not heard anything from Republicans in Minnesota.

We've heard from the mayor, from the governor. We've heard from all these Democrats. Republicans have been eerily silent. Today on The View, Meghan McCain weighed in on this. Very interesting comments, powerful words. Listen to this. There was huge amounts of protesters that took to the streets last night, and I think people are sitting in their homes

and seeing what is blatantly a murder of a man on camera. And George Floyd, I watched the entire video. I know we didn't want to show the entire thing, but it's very graphic. It's very violent. The police officer has his knee on his neck. In the video, there are bystanders screaming that he can't breathe. He says, I can't breathe. He asks for water. And then you see his body go limp. And then you see them dragging him and you see liquid in the spot where he was because he has clearly been suffocated it is very violent very and i think when you're sitting at home and seeing a blatant murder of an unarmed black man on video you can understand why people

are reaching a fever pitch because it doesn't seem like this is stopping and it's it's not just happening in minneapolis it's happening all over the country everywhere this is stopping. And it's not just happening in Minneapolis. It's happening all over the country, everywhere. This is a systemic problem nationally. And what's interesting on top of that is ABC had released footage this morning of George when he was originally arrested and he is not resisting and he's not struggling. They handcuff him and take him to the side of a wall and he's being very compliant in every way. So I think the question that so many of us have is how do you go from being someone who's not resisting arrest, who seems to be completely complying with police officers, to having your neck suffocated

nine minutes later and you dying? And I think these police officers should 100 percent be on trial for a murder. They are clearly already on trial in the court of public opinion. But I don't know how much more communities across the board, not just African-American communities, but Americans in general, can withstand this, especially at this moment in time when there's so much anger and so much frustration. And I really worry about these kind of riots going across the country because I just don't think Americans can handle this anymore. It's just so blatant and egregious. And, you know, apparently if you are a police officer, and I would like to say there are great police officers everywhere,

it's not a blanket statement, but when you see people like this who are just going to murder someone in broad daylight, it obviously puts a mark't sick of this. Because if I take this thing back, if I take it back, and in fact, I got a call today because someone was asking me about these other examples of African Americans and impacted I can just read some names and let me go back here I can go back to 2014 that was six years ago America went on with Eric Garner. Took five years for the cop to be fired. America went on with Michael Brown. America went on with John Crawford III.

America went on with Tamir Rice. America went on with Christian Taylor. America went on with Alton B. Sterling. America went on with Paul O'Neill. America went on with Alton B. Sterling. America went on with Paul O'Neill. America went on with Keith Lamont Scott. America went on with Laquan McDonald. America went on with Akai Gurley. America went on with Walter Scott.

America went on with Freddie Gray. America went on with Sandra Bland. America went on with Sandra Bland. America went on with Samuel DuBose. America went on with Ayanna Jones. America went on with Rekia Boyd. America went on with Philando Castile. America went on with Terrence Crutcher. America went on with Trayvon Martin.

The reality is, for white America, not all, but for white America... A large percentage. At the end of the day, this is not my problem. Because it's not a priority on the top five things they have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. And so as a result, America does go on. But until America realizes its promise of freedom, justice, and equality to all of us, not just some of us, it's going to continue to go on.

And let's get one thing straight. I'm tired of hearing about bad apples. Let me tell you something. Those four cops, only one of them killed that George, the detainee. Only one of them did. But those other three sat there and watched him do it and didn't come to that detainee's aid, didn't push the cop off. And so if you allow that type of corruption, 10 minutes, we watch the life of this young man go away before us. If you allow that to happen, America allows that to happen, then America is just as guilty as the actors. They're just an agent who's willing to put his knee on that individual's neck. So let's not forgive America or the good cops or other people who are American and liberal and white. Nobody gets forgiven on this. Nobody, starting right now. Because when it continues and America moves on, we're all guilty of it, especially white folks who won't stand up and

join us and do anything about it. It's complete bullshit. And Roland, to Scott's point, the reason you saw the reaction from the crowd, the reasons you saw the reactions from the other officers was because that was not out of the ordinary. That is something that you can tell from the reactions of those individuals that that happens all the time. That's right. They knew. This one went excessive, but they're used to being treated that way. It's part of the continued dehumanization and treatment of second-class citizens of African Americans in this country. That's right.

And the fact that that can be normalized, the fact that we see it so often in black communities, whether it's in Atlanta, you have red dog raids, or in other cities where you had detainees treated like Guantanamo Bay in Chicago, human rights abuses across the country. When you have a normalized mistreatment of African Americans in this country, then that's how you have this quote-unquote cavalier attitude that the police officer showed while having his foot on that man's neck. And let's also remember that if there was no video in this case, nobody would have believed it happened. Despite eyewitness testimony and all the people who were there, no one would have ever believed what had happened. When you got the police report, it would say that there was a struggle.

He tried to escape while attempting to execute a lawful detention. Unfortunately, the person died, and they would have written it off that way. To this day, from the time of Emmett Till, from the time of the Stonewall Rebellion, the word of an African-American means nothing in our criminal justice system. And without the unblinking eye of surveillance, many of these crimes would never come to justice. And even when they do come, what we end up seeing in many cases is these individuals completely walking away and walking off. There's a frustration that I have with the roll call that Roland did a moment ago. And not just because it's tragic in and of itself, but because America sees these instances,

these heinous instances, many of them see them back to back to back, and white America does nothing. It's almost like that scene out of Hotel Rwanda when it is, you see it on TV and then you go back to eating your cereal. This is what we're seeing happen across America on a regular basis.

White America has become so conditioned to black people consistently being in the neck and hold him down for minutes while he was literally begging for his life, dying in public, and they did nothing. They didn't try to offer some alternative. They didn't try to stop him. Absolutely nothing. Then we have a problem. My father runs a narcotics unit.

He's seen this video and several others of officers who've gone above and beyond and have been completely reckless in the way that they detain individuals. and there's several others of officers who've gone above and beyond and have been completely reckless in the way that they detain individuals. This is not something that there is a good cop, bad cop narrative around. If you're watching this, if you know and you're a part of a policing entity

that goes... that gets through with this, regardless of whether or not you're the cop who has your knee on someone's neck or not, you are just as much a cooperative force as the guy who did it. Exactly. And who's giving these guys guns, Roland? Who's qualifying that officer to get a gun, a bat? He was wearing an American flag on his uniform while he was killing this young man with his knee and suffocating him with no compunction whatsoever or regret about it. Who's given these police officers guns and shields to kill under color of law? That's another whole level of the blue,

thin blue line we've got to look at and we've got to fix. Robert. And Roland, on that point, the saying isn't one bad apple, I guess we'll do nothing. It is one bad apple spoils a bunch. And despite decades of this going on in the African-American community, you can go back to Watts, you can go back to the 1930s, you can go back to the Atlanta race rights

in the early part of the last century. What we've seen is a lack of interest in changing the way that we police Black communities, ensuring that we actually have policies they put together, you know, we're going to have sensitivity training for the officers. We're going to make sure that they get out of the cars and talk more to the community.

You have to have fundamental changes and you have to address the infiltration of white supremacist organizations and white nationalists into police organizations that are part of the problem in this country. Well, again, it's just like I made the point yesterday when I was talking about the Pentagon spokesman who was complaining about the New York Times story on these military bases named after white supremacists. But they said

nothing with the Military Times came out with their story where more than half of soldiers of color talked about witnessing racist incidents. What I keep trying to explain to people, that they have to understand, we are dealing with white racial resentment right now. Even though whites are the majority in this country, it is this fear of black people. It has been this fear of black people since we first were brought here. It is this fear of black people in every instance.

And what we have done as black people, we have done everything. We've modified our hair. We modified our clothes. We've changed how we talk. We've changed how we walk. We have done everything to make white people in this country comfortable. But then you still will have your Central Park cameras with Amy Cooper. You still will have all these different people people you still will have them even when we are just doing what we're supposed to be doing they will still uh get involved with it in fact here's the next video y'all go ahead and roll crazy ass white people because this n is from minneapolis is from Minneapolis. No charcoal grills are allowed.

I'm white. I got you, girl. Illegally selling water with our permit. On my property. Whoa! Hey! I'm uncomfortable. This goes right along

what we're talking about. These brothers were going to a gym. This white man decided to say, who y'all? Yeah, he told me. Hey, watch out. We'll pay right here. What'd you say we can't do? I'm Tom Austin.

I'm a tenant in the building. Are you? We're all tenants in this building. What office? So we have an office here and this guy came accusing us we can't be here. What office are you in? Don't worry about that. We don't have to tell you anything. Call 911 now. Go ahead.

As you guys can see, we're dealing with racism here. Nicole, hey, this is Tom Austin. I'm in the gym with the Mac. There's the whole, I don't know what to do here, but there's a whole bunch of people who don't care to be part of the- Y'all see this racism here? Okay, I want y'all to roll that video again. I want you to hear his name, because when I, and

I'll tell you about that one, just play it again. Yeah want you to hear his name because when I, and I'll tell you about that when you play it again. What'd you say we can't do? I'm Tom Austin. I'm a tenant in the building. Are you? We're all tenants in this building. What office? We have an office here and this guy came accusing us we can't be here. What office are you in?

Don't worry about that. We don't have to tell you anything. I'm calling 911 now. Go ahead. As you guys can see, we're dealing with racism here. Nicole? Hey, this is Thomas and I'm doing the gym with the Mordecai. There's the whole, I don't know what to do here, but there's a whole bunch of people who don't care to be part of the... Y'all see this racism here?

Okay, folks, so you heard him say his name is Tom Austin. And I'm doing this because I want y'all to understand how you connect them dots. So you had, of course, you had Amy Cooper, the woman who got fired from Franklin Templeton. So this is what I what I pulled up here. And I'm looking at some of the tweets here that people have about this guy, Tom Austin. And according to Padma Lakshmi, of course, you've seen her one of at one of the cooking shows. She said, quote, This same man, Tom Alton, funded a lawsuit in protest of renaming Lake Calhoun attributed to John Calhoun, a politician and adamant defender of slavery, saying, quote,

Every day Minnesotans just want to be left alone and not bullied into changing the names of our lakes and our streets. This guy apparently is also a venture capitalist. I wonder, Amisha, how many folks he has denied opportunities with as a result. Absolutely. I think that that is a very justifiable question and thought to have,

considering the fact that he went all hells bells and balls in on a on the name of a lake being changed. And it's just frustrating because to watch his reaction in that video and his demand to find out what floor these men what floor these men worked on, lived on, to see them and automatically assume that they had no business there. They did not live there, shouldn't have had access, and to move straight to calling the police. And when you pay attention to the video, not only did he call the police, he called the police and identified himself and where he worked, which apparently is supposed to add some bit of leverage to this faulty call. This man was clearly outside of his scope and has a racist past anyway. So I think that as a venture capitalist, he should be probably canceled as definitely canceled as well. I'm sure that he has denied

a lot of minorities, specifically black people, any type of funding for anything really. Here's what's interesting, Robert and Scott. So apparently this guy, Stan Herman, is a partner with him in the F2 group. Used to be a partner. Listen to this voicemail. Hi, this is Stan Herman. I'm no longer associated with F2 group or with Mr. Tom Austin. His actions are not right, and I don't want you to assume that I have the same beliefs. Sorry, mailbox is closed.

So when you call that office, he's already lost his partner, Scott, his business partner. Well, good for him. You know what's interesting about this segment of your show? That all of these crazy-ass white people videos, that white men and white women speak to black people as if they are below them, as if they are not human. They speak to them with authority as if black people are supposed to respond, as if we are submissive, as if we're slaves or we're in segregation or Jim Crow. It's like the 21st century version of that.

And they speak with authority and privilege and supremacy. And when black people respond rationally or irrationally, they call the police. Now, what I don't understand is what do they expect the police to do? Because they're calling the police because black people aren't responding to their authority and not doing what the white individual wants them to do. So therefore, I must call the police to come out to what? Make an arrest because black people aren't acting right in all of these various settings. Right. It's ludicrous.

So here's the deal. First of all, if you're calling building management, why don't you call them, not the cops? So check this out. What are the cops going to do? This site, bringmethenews.com is interesting. So in an email to BMTN, go to my iPad, please. Austin refuted team top figures version of events claiming that, quote, several of these guys were trespassing and using a private gym that was authorized only for building tenants seems like nobody cares about the complete truth one of the tenants brought four friends and i complained to them that this isn't right and it's unfair to the tenants who paid they got in my face in a very threatening manner and i threatened back to call building security you

always love you always love okay they threaten me here's but it comes with a lot but it always comes so robert take this out wait wait wait wait wait wait wait hold on hold up wait wait wait i would have done this hold on i would have done this regardless of race so this is bullshit but then he later sent an email back to the site robert quote yes i fucked up should have handled it differently building management had been complaining that tenants were allowing their friends to trespassing and use a private gym that was authorized only for building tenants.

And so then he goes on and on and on. Nobody else had a fob. When I said something, they got in my face. Because they were in my face, I took photos and threatened back to call the building security. I actually only called the building property manager. I would have done this regardless of race. In fact, I told them I've done the same thing

if they were white or even a bunch of girls who were trespassing. What surprises me is that we worked out and gym together for another 45 minutes after I had already apologized to them for making them feel it was a race issue when in fact it was not. See, Robert, but here's the thing, though. You apologized. But this is what these racist white folks don't understand. I should not have to even go through the bullshit of you challenging me and you questioning me. And so they somehow think that the apology just covers everything up when it's like, no, it's not how it happens. We're still pissed off and it doesn't feel great. And now our anxiety levels have risen. Our stress has gone up because we're having to deal with some crap that I should not have to deal with. Just like Floyd, if he wrote a hot check, the verdict, Robert, for a hot check

is not for a cop to sit on your neck for 10 minutes and choke you to death. Well, E.T., this is part of what I mean by second-class citizenship, because this is a subject of belief, this understanding that you as an African-American are somehow still a second-class citizen and not worthy of the same judicial process,

not worthy of due process. You cannot be believed. When somebody asks you, do you live here, where are you staying, where are you going, you're expected to stand up, straighten up your back and say, yes, sir. And that assumption is baked into America as it is. Remember, one of the defenses for the Michaels who killed Mr. Aubrey was that, well, if he had just responded when they told him to stop, then they would not have chased him down. And she was an African-American, have to pay fealty.

You have to treat any white person as if they have authority over you. We saw from Candace Owens regarding Central Park Karen, she said, well, why did the black man confront Ms. Cooper in the park? Because there's not, a part of white supremacy, even if it's coming from a black face, is this belief that a black person has no right to confront a white person. All white people have the right

to confront any black person. Exactly, exactly. Well, and that to me is what is ludicrous about this. And I think people don't seem to understand that. And the reality is, this ain't South Africa. Well, we've got to show our papers. Right. I mean, that's what it is.

It makes no sense. Just last week, two weeks ago, I was at Highland Beach, one of the three black beach towns in the U.S. left, right? And I had my dog, and we were on the beach, and I was taking a video with the dog. I was only going to be there for a couple minutes. You can't have dogs on the beach. And this white lady who lives down the street from me came running up to me with her cell phone saying, no dogs on the beach, no dogs on the beach.

I advised her we were leaving the beach, but that wasn't good enough. I didn't move fast enough, but she called the mayor of the town and called the police. Now, neither one showed up, if you will, but the authority in her voice... Now, I got a law degree. I'm barred in four jurisdictions. I've never had a bad interaction.

I've never been arrested before. I'm a nonviolent guy. I'm credentialed. And yet, even she thinks no matter what, she can put me off the beach. I took my video and me and my dog took a walk off the beach. But again, when you're confronted with it, it is so offensive that no matter what, I'm still a second class citizenship, no matter how educated I am, no matter how successful I am as a lawyer. And black people, rich and poor, deal with that every day. That's part of their stress

level. It's not part of the stress level for white America. Every single day. I need everybody to hold tight one second. We've got more than 7,000, almost 7,500 people on YouTube watching. We've never had that many people watching live. Yesterday we broke 5,000, then broke 6,000, today broke 7,000.

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virus that was created to kill all the blacks is death. What did this cop say? Well, it didn't work. And then how unfortunate. Police Chief Joshua Hardy says this behavior is not tolerated within this department. And he fired Al Cohen after an investigation of the entire thread. See, Amisha, this is the thing right here. This is a person with a badge and a gun who is out there policing. And for him, not enough black folks died due to coronavirus there are people who are on police forces we now know after that investigation well they look at those those uh facebook private chats cops in st louis cops in uh cops in

philadelphia cops all across the, the racist comments they were making, these are people who are interacting with black folks. It's that they think that these are funny. They think that they're acceptable. They have no problem being loud, proud, and open with them. In this case, it was like he took off his white sheet and felt absolutely fine engaging in a social media conversation where he is making a statement that is not only callous and insensitive, but it draws back on so many tropes that we've seen over

the years. We know that the response to coronavirus, COVID-19, has been exceptionally different when it comes to the Black community versus everyone else. And to see a certain level of the reinforcement of stereotypes, to see that this officer has absolutely no regard for black life, for something that's completely uncontrollable when we're talking about coronavirus, what would people assume his regard for black life would be when he is actually faced with making a decision in an African-American community or when there's an African-American suspect? If you give less than a damn about blacks' right to life, you should not be able to have a badge, period. And for the policing entity itself to say that this guy was basically, he was the problem, there are probably

so many others just like him in that entity. For him to feel this emboldened and this normalized to say something in a completely open public forum shows his level of not giving a damn about Black people in general. Yeah, Roland, that's a really good point Misha just made. Because on one hand, you want to tell me that this department isn't about that, I'm going to fire you. Well, if the cop knew he was going to be fired and that the department wasn't about that and that he shouldn't be making those comments,

then why was he so comfortable making these racist comments? So the department is about that, or at least if it's not about that, most of the cops or a lot of the cops don't know that they're not about that. They think it's okay. So that's where you've got to go in with DOJ if you had a decent AG and a decent president to go in and get at the root causes and create these agreements to eradicate that cancer, that racism from the police force. There are no bad apples. They're bad organizations and people tolerate bad actions from bad police

officers. Robert? As we've been saying, white supremacist groups have been infiltrating and really breeding this testicizing side of law enforcement for years. About once a year, we usually try to have the Ku Klux Klan on my radio show. What they always say is that they've learned that the best way that they can still have power, just as we saw in South Africa after apartheid, is by entrenching themselves in the criminal justice and judicial system. They know that they are losing the population battle. They are losing the political battle. They are losing the values battle. They're losing the battle over the ideals and the hearts and minds of the American people.

But what they do know is if they can get lifetime appointments to the federal judiciary, if they can be elected judge, if they can be elected sheriff or one of the other constitutional officers, they have the ability to defend the lives and push their ideology and their belief system long after they're no longer a political force. So we have to work on rooting these things out, finding these individuals, and reforming the way that we police this country. Because the only reason he got caught was because he was stupid.

How many thousands are there who aren't that dumb? Again, I appreciate the stupidity. Like this fool. An effigy of Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear was hung on a tree near the state capitol during a protest rally in defense of constitutional rights, including the right to bear arms. The rally turned into a protest

against coronavirus restrictions, with protesters chanting outside the governor's mansion for him to come outside. All right, y'all, roll the video. Roll the video. Okay, so on this video you're watching right now, Terry Bush, president of the Kentucky Three Percenters group, was fired as a result.

He worked at the Huffman Auto Group. Well, Neil Huffman Auto Group said it terminated him after an internal review saying, quote, it does not condone threats of violence in any form. Shannon Huffman, the auto dealer's human resources manager, said on social media, there's no place for hate or intolerance at any of our dealerships. God, I love it,

Scott! This dumbass went out there and like, yeah, we gonna hang an effigy on the governor? Not your ass at home. No job. It happens all the time, and God bless america at least that part of america for what happened again but did you notice that he had a gun that he had a license to carry a

gun and that whether it's kentucky or maryland or dc it doesn't really matter he has a license to carry a gun and he's hanging an effigy of the governor outside of his mansion or the statehouse. It is just really unbelievably stupid. I think Robert is right. People, these people getting caught, they're just stupid. They're racist, but they're not getting caught because they're racist. They're getting caught because they're stupid. But I appreciate them being stupid, Demetria. And I keep saying, every one of these white folks who lose their job,

I need black people to go apply for it tomorrow. No, absolutely. And the funniest part here to me after reading articles about it is that this man's wife argues that he shouldn't have been, he shouldn't have lost his job, he shouldn't have been punished at all

because it wasn't his idea to hang an effigy. He was only there to help. I'm like, if you are the person who shows up to a drug deal and you aren't actually receiving the money, but you're packaging the drugs, you're still going to go to prison. So I'm very confused as to how that was the defense. But also, this is literally plotting out and to incite fear on the potential death of a sitting governor.

Is this a gag joke? Is this something that people think they can get away with? How can we not arrest it for threatening a public official? In a lot of jurisdictions, a threat without hanging or words gets you arrested. If you threaten the president, you can get arrested. And I guarantee you at state law level, you get arrested for threatening the governor too. Robert, go ahead. And Roland, also, let's remember, these people were mad enough to go out with guns and camouflage and threaten to hang the governor because they had to stay at home and watch Netflix.

That is how mad these people were, where they were storming Capitol buildings with AR-15s and rocket launchers, waving flags and having rallies because they had to wear a face mask. Meanwhile, the black community, we see our brothers getting shot down, strangled, knees and boots on the back of their neck. And we walk outside for a peaceful prayer vigil, the media reports as a riot. We got to understand at this point, if they're going to portray everything as a riot, I think every black man listening should join the National African American Gun Association, my friend Phil Smith and Doug Jefferson, and let's get out there and start shooting

because if they're already going to say it's a riot, I'm bringing my AR with me. Hey, A-Rolla, here's a question. Go ahead, go ahead. Let me jump in real quick. Here's the question. Why are white people so angry in America and angry at people of color?

If anybody should be angry, it should be African Americans. We've been through slavery. No. We've been through segregation, Jim Crow, you name it. I can answer that. We ain't angry, but they are. No, I can answer that because it's real simple. And this is, I keep telling people this.

2009, John Avalon and I were at CNN we were talking and I said John we are in the age of white minority resistance mm-hmm the election of President Barack Obama caused folks to go oh shit that actually happened oh so let me I need everybody to unpack this. And what's interesting is I've been trying to get, I'm working on this book on white fear, and I call it White Fear, because this is the piece. A survey was done.

The question was asked, are you optimistic about the future of America for your children? Every racial group, majority said yes, except one, white Americans. In September of 2016, before the election, a poll was asked, are you optimistic about the future of America economically for the next 10 years?

Black people, lowest wealth, highest optimism. Latinos were second, then Asians. Who had the lowest optimism that was below majority? White Americans. Hold up. How you got the highest wealth, lowest optimism? It's because they are seeing what's going on. They're seeing the future. They're seeing that the problem is this is no longer just your country. Folks, why was there such a visceral reaction to Colin Kaepernick kneeling? Because, let me just be real clear,

white values have defined America. What has always been the standard of beauty in america blonde blue-eyed white woman hell we got so many now miss miss black america we won't even miss black usas we don't even count them anymore okay the standard has changed now you see how black culture is just just dominating how it's infusing everything. And so this whole, we're losing our country. We're losing our values. Go back 30 years and read the writings of Patrick Buchanan. And then listen to Donald Trump today,

you're gonna hear the exact same thing. So what's happening here, they are afraid of 2043. They are afraid of 2043. Why do they hate Ilhan Omar? How dare a Muslim woman be elected to Congress? Now, Andre Carson and Keith Ellison were both Muslim men, but they said, what is going on? We elected a Muslim? What did Ben Carson say? Oh, no, not a Muslim ever being president of the United States. Well, I'm sorry. Why is that? White values. That's what's going on. Everything

we're talking about right now, y'all, is 2043. Do you understand? We are 20, where are we at? We are 23 years away from a nation becoming majority people of color. Majority of children today under 18 are black and brown. It's coming. They can't stop it. So why is Stephen Miller so hell-bent attacking illegal immigration, the browning of America? Why is Mitch McConnell and Republicans

so insistent on putting 35- to 45-year-old white men and white women on the federal bench, largely white men, federal society because they say we are not going to be in control of this country now what happens is is here you got robert and amicia and scott because of your black experience your view of the flag is different

than somebody who's white when we see the flag flag, it's different. When we see the military, oh my God, stand up and salute. Well, Jackie Robinson said, I never had it made. And I know what y'all meant by that flag. That's why he stopped saluting the flag and stopped doing the Pledge of Allegiance, because our history informs us of a whole different America. That's what's going on here. These rallies, this anger, this resentment that you're seeing is because they see what is coming and it's like a freight train headed their way. And they're like, can't we just go back to how it used to be? Why do you think the phrase make America great again was so important? Because they wanted to go back. I'll never forget. There was a story done on a white man and he said, I wish he had first gotten his

job at this steel plant or some kind of plant in 1973. And he said, I wish we can go back to that time where I can get my son hired here. Now, he didn't ask what was it like for black men and black women getting hired in 1973 because he didn't care because that was a time when you were white. You didn't have to worry about anybody else but your fellow white person. You could call your buddy. Scott, you at a law firm, they had to worry about seeing nobody like you

as a managing partner. Oh, we didn't see that. I can call my friend. Now, guess what? It's people like Scott and Amisha and Robert who are now in the law firm. You got black women who are going to college at a faster rate than anybody else. Damn, now they got to compete. What's freaking them out is that the America that they have had for centuries is no longer

about to be theirs. And this is about power. This is about, oh, damn, we got to share resources. We got to share power. Oh, hold up. No, no, no. We got to hold on to this thing as fast as we can. And I keep telling everybody, this thing ain't changing when Trump loses in November.

You got to gird yourself. This is what we're going to be dealing with for the next 50 to 100 years because they can't handle the browning of America. That's right. That's right. You know, and the other thing is, if you're right and I believe you're right, because I use that term, the browning of America, whenever I get into these debates about immigration and immigration reform, then America's promise is nothing but a myth. And it'll never reach, we'll never get there to that society, that fair society, that just society. And we're certainly not going to have a colorblind society. And so I think you're absolutely right. And that's a broader, deeper, more complex issue that if we don't create a dialogue or some corrective measures about, we're going to be in war with each other beyond 2014.

It ain't complex. 2043. It's not complex. Here's what, Robert, I'm going to go to you, Robert. It's not complex. Actually, it's very simple. It's the changing dynamic. This is no, this is, look,

here's why I know what I'm talking about. Y'all, I was in the middle of it in Texas when you had African Americans begin to fight Latinos over the next police chief and the next fire chief and the next

school board president. Why? Because you had these two minority groups who all of a sudden were realizing their power in those respective cities, Houston and in Dallas. Here's what happened. Here's what happened, Robert. Latinos all of a sudden rise. Black people were like, ho, ho, ho.

We just started getting some power. And y'all trying to roll up in here and now make some demands? And so you had this friction, these battles that were going on. And I'm looking at the Latinos and black people going and the white folks over here sitting there saying, y'all keep fighting while we still gonna be in control. Power.

This is a power dynamic, Robert. Power. Well, Roman, one, Scott, I hate to tell you this, but when they thought up that American dream, they were not thinking about your black ass. Not in the slightest, actually. So I hate to break that to you. I don't know if anybody ever mentioned that.

But you can go back before that. If you remember the Charlton Heston movie, Planet of the Apes, that's exactly what they were talking about. An astronaut goes into space, stays there so long that when he gets back, he sees that Earth is overrun and being run by apes, and they are treating white people the way that white people treated the apes. That was about the racial climate in America. That was the fear that they had then and that they have now and that they are seeing turn into reality.

It's not just that they fear the brownie of America. They fear that when they become the racial minority, we are going to treat them the way that they treated everyone else, and that is the fear that they have. But they think that way because of how they think about power, not how we think about power. And that's why Amisha in Mitch Landrieu's book on taking down Confederate statues, he literally wrote, white people, it's okay, I know black people, they're not gonna do to us

what we did to them. He literally writes it in his book. Right. Which is a very true fact. When it comes to oppression, we're not trying to, as a population, rise to the top just to throw all types of chains and shackles on everybody else. What we have been fighting for this entire

time is a space, an avenue where we can actually grow and develop. And to the credit of the African-American population, we have fought our asses off in education. We have fought our asses off to find housing affordability and to find housing that is acceptable against all of these systems that have been set up to consistently keep us back. For African Americans, I think that it's not just population growth that we're looking at. We're looking at acumen in getting more degrees. We're looking at acumen in entrepreneurship. We're looking at acumen in these avenues

that black people have historically been left out of. And I think that all of that growth is very threatening to white people and white institutions. It's not just population. We've had moments in history where black people have surpassed white people and white institutions. It's not just population. We've had moments in history where black people have surpassed white people in population. Hell, during the entire slavery process, we surpassed white people in population.

When it comes to a power dynamic and a power narrative, you also have to be someone who knows what to do with that power. And I think that we are at a pressure point in American history where black people are there. And give us another 10, 15 years, that moment of whiteness that has encompassed everything that is American, all of our institutions, and created this level of generational oppression is going to end.

And the level of fear that they have around that is valid because, hell, black people are sick and tired and we have set in motion a process that means that we will have that power, and we aren't going to let it go. Well, but that's also why I keep telling people you have to be in position to take advantage of power. Y'all, don't go anywhere. Guess what? Trump has finally weighed in on the George Floyd case, And Kwame Kilpatrick, remember when they said Saturday he was being released from prison? I'll give you the details when we come back on Roller Martin Unfiltered.

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Two hours later, this was the tweet. At my request, the FBI and the Department of Justice are already well into an investigation as to the very sad and tragic death in Minnesota of George Floyd. And then he said, I have asked for this investigation to be expedited and greatly appreciate all of the work done by local law enforcement. My heart goes out to George's family and friends. Justice will be served. Sound like Robert, somebody who realized that you was criticizing Joe Biden on Friday. Joe Biden who had a discussion today with the governor of Pennsylvania, Tom Wolf. He was a lot more forceful than Trump. That's what happens when, yeah, you claim you want black people to support you,

but you don't say nothing. He realizes he's behind an eight ball. One thing I will give President Trump credit for, and also the Black Voices for Trump movement, they have been effectively able to get Trump to speak out on issues like this and have Justice Department investigations, both into the shooting of Ahmaud Aubrey and also into this shooting. I think we have to give President Trump credit when he does something right. And this is a situation where he did do the right thing in having the Justice Department investigate this. I believe there's a very strong case for hate crimes violations under

18 U.S.C. 249, particularly Robert Burdett. And I think we do need to give the president credit when he does something which is in the interest of our community. We have the most bargaining power when we have people on both sides of the aisle who are able to represent our interests. And I think we should applaud the president for doing this. Robert, we ain't got bargaining power with the White House or GOP, and Donald Trump couldn't write those tweets if it was the last thing he had to do to save his life. Somebody wrote that because it's election

year. His heart's not in it, and he ain't going to do a damn thing for people of color. All he's going to do is get his 40%, and hopefully he'll be voted out of the White House. I'm not giving him credit for a freaking tweet, because of all the prior tweets and all the prior racism and racist acts he and his administration has done. So let's not do that.

Let's not give him credit for a tweet when he's got prior tweets that are offensive to people of color and the immigrants from South America coming here. Amisha, I want to get your credit. Amisha, go ahead. Amisha. I absolutely agree with A. Scott here. What we're seeing is a last-ditch effort from a president who had somebody whisper in his ear, hey, you have to say something about this black murder. But we're also seeing a president who is orchestrating quite possibly the nation's largest disenfranchisement campaign for black voters.

So let's not assume that this president gives a good goddamn about black people and, you know, elevating black issues, because everything about him has shown that he does not. He's making last-ditch efforts to try to get a few more black men specifically because that's his target, to vote for him in November. That is it, point blank, period. This man does not

care about the black community, his efforts, his policies, everything shows that. Well, geez. And Robert, you know that. Hold up. I got Scott. I know that. I got Scott over here talking about bullshit and Amisha good goddamn. Y'all extra. Go ahead, Robert. Go on. You want to cuss too? Go on.

No, I'm not getting into that. When they go low, I go high as my first lady says. But I think what we have to realize is the only way to get power on both sides of the aisle is to make sure when someone does something which is in the best interest of your community, encourage them to keep doing that. President Trump could have tweeted out, to hell with y'all black asses, and went on with his day and started talking about Obamagate again. We have a federal investigation, which is what is needed.

We often see local— Robert, you do realize that right before he tweeted that, his last preceding tweets, three of them were about Obamagate. I just read that. That's why I said that. That's exactly the point. We need to have the bargaining power to launch these federal investigations. If you look at Goodman, Cheney, and Schwerner in the 1960s, if you look at many of

these cases where you do not have justice on the local level, you have to have the Federal Department of Justice intervene. So we need to be supporting and pushing for that so we can have a tripartite investigation, both on the local level, on the state level, and the federal level. I'm a pragmatist. I want things practically done. I don't care who gets it done as long as it's done. I'm not going to sit here and wait for the next Democratic president to be put in office.

I'm a pragmatist too, Robert, but you can't have a horseman who are here to give things. Hold on. You know what I'm saying. You're a bright guy. You can't force me to wear a gift bag and give it to my son. One second, one second, one second, one second, one second, real quick. Today, Joe Biden had a video chat with the governor of Pennsylvania, Tom Wolf, and he addressed this whole issue of the death of George Floyd. This is what he said. George Floyd's life matters. It mattered as much as mine. It matters as much as anyone's in this country. At least it should have. I think the Lord's life mattered. It mattered as much as mine. It matters as much as anyone in this country.

At least it should have. Watching his life be taken in the same manner, echoing nearly the same words of Eric Garner more than five years ago, I can't breathe, is a tragic reminder that this was not an isolated incident, but a part of an ingrained systemic cycle of injustice that still exists in this country.

It cuts at the very heart of our sacred beliefs that all Americans are equal in rights and in dignity. And it sends a very clear message to the black community and black lives that are under threat every single day. And I'm glad the mayor of Minneapolis stepped up right away in the police department and took swift

action to fire the officers involved. But I don't think that's enough. They have to be held more fully accountable, including the FBI investigation and an independent Department of Justice civil rights investigation. Because we have to get to the root of all this. You know, we have to ensure that the Floyd family receives the justice they're entitled to. And as a nation, you know as well as I, you know better than I, we have to work relentlessly to eradicate these systemic failures that inflict so much damage on not just one family, one community,

but on the people of color all across this nation. And I don't think we can move forward unless we take aggressive action to rip out the insidious race-based inequalities that corrupt every part of our society. All right, folks, that was, again, Joe Biden today talking about the George Floyd case. All right, y'all, I got to do this story here, and that is talk about a change of Fortune. Saturday, a story came out saying that former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick was going to be released from prison on June 10th as a result of the coronavirus. The low security prison where he is being held, apparently seven inmates there have died from COVID-19. Well, the federal government now says that Kilpatrick, who is serving a 28-year sentence for corruption, has been turned down for home confinement during the coronavirus pandemic.

The brief statement came four days after a Detroit-area pastor and the Ebony Foundation, which is tied to the folks who own Ebony Magazine, announced that Kilpatrick would be leaving the prison in Oakdale, Louisiana, which has been hit hard by the coronavirus. They said that he was going to be released to his mother. She's a former congresswoman, Kilpatrick,

who left Detroit, who now lives in Atlanta. Supposed to be on June 10th. Well, the U.S. attorneys in Michigan were not happy when they heard this news. They said, no way, he's only served a quarter of his 28-year sentence, and that he should not be let out. Now, folks like Angela Stanton King out of

Atlanta, she's been texting me saying that she played a huge role in getting Kwame released. I talked to Pastor Darrell Scott and others as well, who said numerous people were involved in that. Jerron Smith, who works at the White House, actually had posted a tweet talking about the people who've been released from prison as a result of coronavirus and was tagged an article with Kwame Kilpatrick. I reached out to the White House to find out what's going on, have not gotten anything back from them. A sort of strange, Scott, that at the end there was the black state legislator in Detroit who was a part of that black meeting with Trump. She said she had talked to Trump who said that he was going to be released. Looks like some folks talked a little too soon.

Robert, what level of credit do you want to give Donald Trump for this? Are you going to brag or are we going to complain? Donald Trump's not trustworthy. And so 28 years was an over sentence for his corruption in Detroit. I represented at least one defendant in those series of cases in Detroit. There's no love lost between Detroit Democrats or Republicans and Kwame Kilpatrick. But I do think from a humanitarian standpoint, if if others have been let out who did white collar crimes and we know that they have,

they don't look like Kwame Kilpatrick, then he certainly should be given every consideration. Department, the Bureau of Prisons has denied that he's been he's been allowed to leave or has been approved. In fact, they said I saw one statement in one report that said it had not been approved. And so maybe they jumped the gun on it. I don't expect him to be released for any period of time, though. I think they did jump the gun, Robert. And again, you don't say anything until he's released. You gave his detractors a whole lot of time to say, no, hell no. Right, right, exactly. I agree with you on that. I think that, well, one, there was a rush of people trying to take credit for it before it was actually done.

It does sound like there's a little bit of bureaucratic wrangling, and he may still end up being released early, but just not on that timetable. So I think the people who were just in such a hurry to go out there and take credit for it need to kind of hold their horses and let the process work itself out. But then also, I think, particularly with elected officials in the Black community who are found guilty of corruption, which happens far too often, though for some reason they become these cult figures. They become these almost seen as freedom fighters, when usually communities that they were defrauding were these same black communities of color

that now become their biggest cheerleaders to have them released. We see this with multiple mayor, city council people who are arrested or charged with corruption. These people are hurting your community. So we need to ensure

that we give them stiff sentences so we don't have the continuous rotating door of prison jail cells going to city council positions around the country. Amisha, it's... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Amisha. There are people who are very supportive of Kwame Kilpatrick, but there's a lot of people in Detroit who are like, hell yeah, he should go for 28 years. I mean, we have to think about

the economic situation in Detroit. So there are some people who do have some residual, very upset feelings. As a Chicagoan, there are some people on the South Side who were very upset at a lot of what Jesse Jackson Jr. got locked up for as well.

But most people could agree that his sentence was not as extreme as what we're seeing with Kwame Kilpatrick. I feel like in this case, to A. Scott's point earlier, there was some jumping the gun in terms of people

making statements before there was a release announced. I, too, have read those articles that, you know, his release was never imminent to begin with.

So I think there were some issues around the reporting. Well, you know, so, again, here's the deal, though. First of all, we don't know,

yes, the Bureau of Prisoners said this here. We don't know what Barr, the Bureau of Prisoners said this here. We don't know what Barr is going to say. Look, people have been working on this for a couple of years. Look, Trump has let out Rob Blagojevich. He's let out Ray Nagin. I wouldn't be surprised if trying to appeal to some black votes in Michigan, a state he needs, that he may make it clear, let him out. So again,

Bureau of Prisons saying one thing right now, but who controls the Bureau of Prisons? The Attorney General. I agree with that. I just think there's a political calculation that he is making because as you said earlier, Roland, there are some black people who are still very upset in Detroit about Kwame who would not be excited to see his sentence reduced. So I don't know how many positive votes or, you know, black outreach and strong outcomes President Trump would get if he did something. But black Democratic politicians locally at the state level, they have a complexity to them. They've been convicted of corruption, but they've also helped a lot of people in communities that need it the most. And so there's always this torn piece

between when our people get out and come home and whether they should have gone or not. In this case, my only argument with Kwame is that he was over-sentenced to 28 years. He was over-sentenced because he did not express enough humility and continued to violate the rules and regs that the judge had given him on an interim basis when he was mayor and even when he wasn't mayor as far as his travel restrictions. And he showed no remorse for that on an interim basis. And so I've been before that judge in the Eastern District of Michigan. I've had clients sentenced by her.

And I've got to tell you, she does it by the law, but he had offended her so much. I do think he was over-sentenced, but he brought it on himself. Final comment. Final comment, Robert. I just want to say I know that former congresswoman Kilpatrick is in Atlanta. For Kwame, we full be. We don't need you here. We got plenty of corrupt politicians.

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So I think if you don't have your setup going for your live streaming, your broadcasting, look, this is going to be the new normal for a long period of coronavirus. So I think if you don't have your setup going for your live streaming, your broadcasting, look, this is going to be the new normal for a long period of time. So people need to be evolving. On that note, Rainbow Puss is doing a digital Zoom town hall on police brutality tomorrow at 5 p.m. Central, 6 p.m. Eastern. Go to rainbowpuss.org for information on that. We're going to have state and local and national officials on to talk about what we can do to curb police brutality. Robert, don't come on here with Magic City behind you. Hey, look, I'm going to change that during the next break.

The fact that you know about Magic City is concerning, Roland. Okay. White folks know about Magic City. Hell, you know what you got to do. You can't listen to an Atlanta rapper and not know about Magic City. Hell, you can't listen to an Atlanta rapper and not know about Magic City.

Look, let's just appreciate that. Wait a minute. In the versus battle between Ludacris and Nelly, hell, Ludacris wore a Magic City shirt? Roland, let's just appreciate that Magic City is also between the Greyhound Station, the Marta Station, and the Atlanta Jail.

I don't think that was an accident, but that's where they located it at. Misha, you got any final thoughts? I didn't know y'all were going to go to Magic City. My final thoughts would be register, register, register. It is your fundamental right to vote by mail. Make sure that you are ready and raring to go. I know that a lot of vote by mail applications have come to people by mail. Make sure that you are ready and raring to go. I know that a lot of vote by mail applications have come to people's homes. Make sure

that you fill those out. Mail them back. Get ready. Scott has closed many deals at Magic City. He ain't fronting nobody. Y'all, thank you so very much. I appreciate it. Coming up, my man, comedian Lamar King. We got to go ahead and end this, y'all. A lot of serious stuff today. We got to end

the show with some lads. Lamar King's up next. Roland Martin on the field. Like, share, subscribe to our YouTube channel. That's youtube.com forward slash Roland S. Martin. And don't forget to turn on your notifications so when we go live, you'll know it. All right, folks. Come on. All right, y'all. It's World Out Wednesday. Every Wednesday, we have comedians on

for a little of respite. Gotta have some levity. My man, Lamar King, what's up? What's good with you? How you feel today, man? I'm all good, all good. How you doing, man? I'm good.

So am I not supposed to see you? I'm just supposed to hear you? Is that what it is? Well, first of all, we have a real system. This ain't no punk-ass IG Live. So just answer the question. It was an easy question. What?

I mean, when I go on cable news, it happens all the time where I don't necessarily see the host. So damn it, just listen. Just wanted to make sure I had everything right on my end. First of all, you don't have everything right with that damn phone being vertical. Your phone really should be horizontal. Well, hey, look, I tried it and it didn't work.

So we're going to move forward. Damn. Okay, Camila in the control room said he got an iPhone 7 and it ain't really working well. That's broadcasting one-on-one. You don't draw attention to the negative like that. You move forward. No, no, no, no, no.

We do. See, right now, here's the problem. Because you got an iPhone 7, we got to put your stuff in a box with a background because it's not filling the whole screen. That's fine with me. You can see me. That's fine with me. You can see me. I'm fine with it. You can see me. So what you got in the house? Your own

little studio? I see your little back. This is actually Tiny Closet Studios, which is, we're breaking ground here. We got a lot of programming coming out of the closet. Tiny Kitchen, Tiny DIY. It's a major operation. Looking forward to do some big things in 2021.

So how have you been adjusted to COVID-19? I have not been adjusted. Everybody talk about the new normal. It's abnormal. That's what it is. It's like Groundhog Day all over again every day. Yeah, because like some days I really don't know what the hell the day is. I'm like, what the hell is tomorrow?

Last weekend I had no idea. I'm like, damn, this is Memorial Day weekend? Yeah, exactly. My thing is this. I couldn't figure out if it was today, tomorrow, or yesterday. So every day feels like semester day. It's as we're going to land on Sunday, whereas you know you got something important to do tomorrow,

but you really don't. Yeah, because you can't even plan your week. See, I'm going to church on Sunday. You ain't know what day it is. First of all, I take it your cleaning bill is down because you ain't going nowhere. You ain't wearing nothing. The cleaning bill is down. The grocery bill is about steady. My drink tab is through

the roof, though. How's that? I mean, just by the bottle. That's how it is, by the bottle instead of the drink. You know, Costco really has some of one of the best liquor stores on the East Coast. So, you know, Costco frequent. I'm a frequent visitor to Costco. This is how my days look. First two months, this is how my days look. So I get up bright and early. You know, I try to stay in a routine. You know what I'm saying? Get up 7.30 with the sun, do a little exercise and check my stocks, check my timelines, you know, go in the kitchen, lay out dinner, you know what I mean? Get the day going and by 8.30, 8.45 a.m., I'm back in bed, you know what I mean?

Getting ready for tomorrow. That's pretty much how my days have been the first two months. It's ridiculous. Ready to go outside. Yeah, but you can go out. I mean, but you just got to have safe distance. Well, I go out every day. You know, so I believe, I'm firm believer in sunshine and nature as the cure.

I'm one of those type of guys. So I go out every day at least to breathe a fresh air, see some sights. But, you know, like they said, man, this is it. So if you can't get used to this, then you might as well hang it up because it's really not going back to the way it was. So don't look for it. That's my

opinion. Yeah, it's to me, it's quite interesting in terms, again, just sort of where we are and what's going on. It's just crazy. It's just crazy to me. And then how they found that money, though. I've been tripping out how they found that money for those two stimulus situations, two of them.

I mean, we've been talking for years about reparations and health care and free college. And it's, oh, where are we going to get the money? It's a good idea where we're going to get the money. But now all of a sudden the banks and big businesses, they need a bailout. Go get that $2 trillion off the dresser when you get a chance. You had it on the dresser the whole time?

On the dresser twice? Damn. How do you do it twice, though? Everybody get money. Obviously, more people are watching, more streaming services. HBO Max launched today. Porn sites are killing. Oh, absolutely.

I'm about to launch my OnlyFans. I don't know if you're familiar with that. I know about OnlyFans. Yeah, yeah. And it's going to be cheap, too. I'm in that little $6 to $9 bracket because I really feel like, you know, I got to, you know, you got to work your way into my OnlyFans. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to show a lot.

Well, here's the deal. Here's my deal. Why do people get mad if somebody has an OnlyFans account? I don't care. If you want to show your ass and get paid for it, it's a bunch of people showing their ass on Instagram for free. Right. So here's the thing. You got to get all that out your mind. It's a no-judgment zone. You got to...

See, business, you got to go where the market is. So I ain't... You know, it ain't even got to be all the stuff that you think it's going to be. I'm going for that niche fetish market. For people that want to see people doing arm curls. And I'm just be on there doing arm curls like this, shirtless, doing this want to see people doing arm curls and i'm just be on there doing arm curls like this shirtless doing this for the ladies doing arm curls and that's my only fans right there it's only for fans and i don't need no judges okay i'm sorry hold up hold up hold up

so you said you're gonna be doing arm curls shirtless you know they can nine dollars a month you know they can look at that on YouTube for free. But it's me, though. But it's me. See, that's the thing. That's the thing about OnlyFans. It's only for fans. It ain't for everybody.

That's what people do. Don't get hung up on that. Hey, Roland, don't get hung up on what you think it's supposed to be. I'm telling you what it is. Oh. You can get yours. You can get yours. I just heard you name 47 people at the end of the last segment who donated.

No, that wasn't 47. This is basically OnlyFans. That was more than 100. This is OnlyUnfilteredFans. That's basically what it is. Mm. OK. OnlyUnfiltered.

That's what you should change it to. OnlyUnfiltered. OK. People are like, oh, damn. Well, we know times are rough. What's your cash app? We're trying to help you out. My cash app is Dollar Sign Lamont King 06.

I was on tour with Lamont King 06. I was on tour with Bruce Bruce for two years, man. That came to a screeching halt. So you're right. Things are tricky. It's an adjustment. But, you know, I've been doing a lot of Zoom comedy shows and Zoom happy hours and just trying to readjust and pivot. It's all about pivoting in these times.

Right. You gotta switch up, do things different, and pivot. Comedy can live online. It definitely could. Because who knows when we're going back to the comedy clubs and sitting shoulder to shoulder, elbow to elbow, and laughing out loud again. There will be no more laughing out loud.

Because all that mouth open stuff in public, it's a wrap. It's a wrap. You can go to the comedy club, and they're either and laughing out loud again. There will be no more laughing out loud because all that mouth-opening stuff in public is the rap. You can go to the comedy club and they're either going to put your ass out for drinking and heckling or laughing with your mouth open. And the other thing is, comedy clubs are packed.

You sitting on top of each other. Yeah, yeah. So no LOLing. That's 2021. That's what it's going to be. No LOLing. No, no, no. You can do LOL,

but you're going to have to text your laugh. that's what it's gonna be. No LOLing. No, no, no, you can do LOL, but they probably, you're gonna have to text your laugh. Yeah, yeah, text it to the stage. Yeah, text it to the stage. You're gonna have to text, that was funny, but you can't actually, you can't actually bust out laughing. Nah, none of that ha-ha, hee-hee, and coughing and snorting and all that,

and spitting the drink out, nah, that's a wrap. You're going to jail for that. You're going to jail now. All right, Pram, we gotta go, because I got to talk to the BBC in 10 minutes. Lamar King, always good to see you, Frack. Give everybody getting the cash app. Y'all help the brother out and tell them whether they can follow you

so they can see your Zoom comedy shows. Doctor, dollar sign, LamarKing06. Social media is MrLamarKing. I'm also on the Karen Hunter Show each and every Friday Sirius XM, Urban View and look for my Whites Only podcast dropping soon

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So Keenan, go ahead and get ready for this here. So everybody, so here's the deal. Since you don't have any of these commencements, next week, next week, after we end the show, what we're going to do is we're going to drop every day one of the commencement speeches I've previously given. I've given them at South Carolina State, Grambling, Bowie State, Virginia, Virginia State, Lane, Stillman, University of Maryland, University Park. I've done Florida Memorial. I've done LeMoyne Owen. And so a number of them, we actually have the videos.

And so we're going to have that. So that's what we're going to do. So you know what? Since you have all these graduates, they can't have the commencements. We're going to drop a commencement speech every day next week right here at Roller Mark Unfiltered. All right.

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