#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 6.22 Trump's low rally turnout; Trump slowed COVID-19 tests; Rev. Barber sounds alarm on Ky. primary

Episode Date: June 27, 2020

6.22.20 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: What's behind Trump's low rally turnout? Did Trump slow COVID-19 tests for political reason? Demario Solomon Simmons who represents the last known survivor in Tulsa of... the 1921 massacre joins us; Rev. William Barber sounds alarm over concerns about the Kentucky primary; The man who put crazy a$$ Connie put on blast speaks; Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartcinunfiltered #RolandMartinUnfiltered Partner: Ceek Be the first to own the world's first 4D, 360 Audio Headphones and mobile VR Headset. Check it out on www.ceek.com and use the promo code RMVIP2020 - The Roland S. Martin YouTube channel is a news reporting site covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, he's upset. He's furious that only 6,200 people showed up. Guess what? Get ready. You'll be really furious when we fire you in November. Folks, lots of online ads targeting Donald Trump, especially from the Lincoln Project. We'll talk with John Weaver,
Starting point is 00:02:29 one of the founders of the Lincoln Project. Lincoln will join us to talk about it. Donald Trump claims that the reason for the spike in COVID-19 numbers is too much testing. He even said at his rally, he told folks to slow them down. Dr. Ebony Hilton talks about that. Trust me, she's going to be on fire.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Also, Demario Solomon Simmons will join us. He represents the last known survivor of the Tulsa massacre. The race ride in 1921, he'll join us. Plus, oh my God, Gary Chambers Jr. put Connie on blast. The Baton Rouge school board meeting last week, he is here. Oh my God, Gary Chambers Jr. put Connie on blast at the Baton Rouge School Board meeting last week. He is here. He's gone viral, folks, and can't wait to talk about him. Plus, Reverend Dr. William Barber is here
Starting point is 00:03:13 to sound the warning about the Kentucky primaries being held tomorrow. 95% of all statewide polls are closed. Also, NASCAR stands with Bubba Wallace when a noose is found in his garage. And black quarterback Liberty University says, Peace, I'm out. I'm tired of the racism here at my university. Take that, Jerry Falwell Jr.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It's time to bring the funk. Roll the mic on a filter. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the piss, he funk, a roller block, on a field kicks. He's rolling. Yeah. It's Uncle Roro, y'all. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:04:45 A number of online folks have been running these various ads targeting Donald Trump. Now, many of these organizations have been nailing him. One of those, of course, is Project Lincoln. They have been getting under Donald Trump's skin. Of course, he's really upset after this weekend when he had a so-called big rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma. 19,000 seat venue, but it was only a third field. And boy, his camp is blaming protesters for blocking the entrances. They even, of course, you even had these teenagers who, these K-pop folks, who also got themselves a bunch of tickets to boost up the numbers
Starting point is 00:05:20 and making them think they actually had a million requests. Boy, this has been pretty hilarious. And so, Project Lincoln put together these videos. Watch this. They've been really ticking Donald Trump off. Before Donald Trump comes to Tulsa, remember what real leaders sound like. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley
Starting point is 00:05:44 of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Too often we honor swagger and bluster and the wielders of force. Too often we excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered dreams of other human beings. Now those who divide speak. And I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever. I agree that looters ought to be shot, yes. On site? On site. The Negro and white citizens of this state are against a breakdown of law and order.
Starting point is 00:06:18 You have to dominate the streets. Please don't be too nice. Very fine people on both sides. When you hear leaders speak, you know who they are, who they represent, and what kind of America they'll create. The Lincoln Project is responsible for the content of this advertising. Hey, Donald, your campaign manager told you a million fans wanted to come to your first big rally. Turn out in Tulsa? A dud.
Starting point is 00:06:47 You've probably heard this before, but it was smaller than we expected. It sure wasn't as big as you promised. Honestly, we're not surprised. We've seen that you're shaky, can't keep your poles up, and it's getting worse. You talk a big game. The event in Oklahoma is unbelievable. The crowds are unbelievable. They haven't seen anything like it. And can't deliver. Sad, weak, low energy. Just like your presidency.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Just like you. The Lincoln Project is responsible for the content of this advertising. Oh, isn't he so sad? Joining us right now is John Weaver, one of the founders of Project Lincoln. John, glad to have you here. Project Lincoln, a group of longtime Republicans who have been embarrassed and ashamed at not just Donald Trump, but also the Republicans who allow him to do what he does. That's right. I mean, we're not just going after the president for all his conduct and behavior. You chronicled so well, but he wouldn't be this powerful in so many seconds. Hold tight. One second, John. Hold on one second. We're having a slight issue with your audio.
Starting point is 00:08:41 So folks, if y'all could go ahead and get that resolved, and then let me know when it's fixed. Okay? Do we have the audio fixed? All right, just let me know when y'all have the audio fixed, and then we'll get that taken care of. I want to introduce my panel, Dr. Avis Jones-DeWeaver. She's a political analyst, Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor to the Environmental Justice EPA, also Eugene Craig, CEO of the Eugene Craig Organization, and also a member of Project Lincoln. So let me know when we have John's audio fixed. Eugene, I want to start with you before I go back to John once we have that fixed. I mean, this has been driving Donald Trump crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:17 He literally spent a lot of time at his rally trying to beat back a couple of the ads that they've dropped because they've been just hammering him. They're in his head. Eugene, your mic is probably muted. You got to unmute your mic. Talk about the residual multiplier of going at Donald Trump the way you have to go at him. What's been missing from the- Hold on, same thing. Hold tight one second. Same thing. Lots of feedback on your system. Guys, get your gene fixed. I want to go back to John Weaver. John Weaver, folks, please get the audio straight for our panelists.
Starting point is 00:09:56 John, back to you. You're making your comments. Go ahead. No, I mean, obviously we're going to go right at Donald Trump every day until actually January 20th when Vice President Biden is sworn in as president. But much of the problem we're facing in this country is that we have a Republican Senate that has subjugated themselves to Donald Trump. And they have enabled him and his worst instincts. And generally, all you hear from them are crickets, quite frankly. It's shameful behavior. And we're going to prosec from them are crickets, quite frankly. It's shameful behavior. And we're going to prosecute the case against them just as well.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And I mean, look, this is a significant piece here because obviously he despises never Trumpers. But the reality is, John, there are a lot of Republicans who fell in line, who frankly have been drunk with power. That's really what this has all been about. They'll complain privately about Donald Trump, but they can go right ahead. I mean, even though John Bolton is running around with his book right now, I mean, the Donald Trump you see today, we knew in 2015.
Starting point is 00:10:57 We knew in 2011 when he was a birther. But Bolton wanted to work for him. Look, I get Senator Mitt Romney all of a sudden trying to make the case and complaining about I get Senator Mitt Romney all of a sudden trying to, you know, make the case and complaining about Trump. But Mitt Romney actually interviewed and wanted to be Secretary of State. And so where I come from, if you know who a person is, you don't want to associate with them at all. Well, look, Roland, I was watching the SEC Nation the other day, and I forget who said this, but if someone tells you who they are, believe them. Don't try to convince I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO A MAN WHO WAS A PART OF THE C.C. NATION THE OTHER DAY AND I FORGET WHO
Starting point is 00:11:26 SAID THIS, BUT IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU WHO THEY ARE, BELIEVE THEM. DON'T TRY TO CONVINCE YOURSELF THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE. AND LIKE YOU, I FOUGHT AGAINST DONALD TRUMP SINCE HE FIRST ARRIVED ON THE POLITICAL SCENE. I KNEW HE WAS A RACIST AND A
Starting point is 00:11:42 FRAUD AND A JERK. AND UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK PARTLY OUT and power that the Republican Party rolled over for him. He only wanted to rent it. He treats the Republican Party like it's a rented car. And they still subjugate themselves to him. But from our viewpoint, because it is our party that has rolled out the carpet for him and allowed him to roam the countryside like a zombie from out of the living dead, we have an obligation to fight back, and not just against him, but against the people who allowed this to happen. Well, especially when you look at Senator Lindsey Graham, who had all these things to
Starting point is 00:12:16 say about Donald Trump when he was running, and now all of a sudden, oh, he's just fabulous and he's wonderful. And then you have, of course, Mitch McConnell. All he cares about are confirming judges, and he's wonderful. And then you have, of course, Mitch McConnell, all he cares about are confirming judges and he'll do whatever. And then what happened to the Freedom Caucus, the so-called fiscal conservatives? They've said nothing about the exploding debt that's happened as well. I mean, what he has done is he has simply just snatched the guts out of all these people who were so-called principal, including what I call these fake conservative evangelicals who support this guy? Well, as you and I both know, and I think
Starting point is 00:12:50 we've talked about it before, much of the evangelical movement is based on race. And I'm probably going to get in trouble for saying that, but that is indeed the case. And he didn't just take their courage or their spine. With a lot of these Republican officeholders, I think he holds their testicles in a jar on their desk. I mean, what are they afraid of, being tweeted at? What are they going to tell their children and their grandchildren during this time period what they did? It's remarkably shameful. You know, we're obviously, you know, angry about it, but we're trying to, we're trying to be focused and bring about a message that can attract enough Republicans and disaffected Republicans and independents to make sure that we don't have a close election
Starting point is 00:13:38 in the fall. And y'all have been putting out a number of these ads. And so is the goal is to raise more money. And also you're also targeting these ads to run in battleground states. Democrats only need four seats, a net gain of four seats to take over the United States Senate. Is that also part of the plan? It is part of the plan. I mean, we're focused on an ever growing number of U.S. Senate seats, Roland. We've run ads, I think, in six or seven. We're going to be involved in three or four more and consistently in a handful. And remember, Trump became president because of 77,000 votes spread over three big states. But now we have a multiple number of states that he carried against Secretary Clinton
Starting point is 00:14:19 that Vice President Biden either has a significant lead in or is tied in. But we're also looking up and down the ballot. In Texas, the Democrats are only five or six seats away from taking over the Texas House. And, look, if we get rid of Trump this cycle, we still have the Tom Cottons and the Josh Hollies and the Ron DeSantis and the Greg Abbots to deal with. So, you know, there'll be future episodes of, you know, not of the living dead searching for crazy MAGA zombies. We're not dead. We're not going to be through. All right. Well, look, we certainly have we look at those ads and run a number of those.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And it is good to see that there are Republicans who say, look, we're still Republicans. We simply cannot stand and support this disgraceful person sitting in the Oval Office. Yeah, that's right, Roland. And look, you know, there's a need for a center-right party in this country, but the first thing we got to do is burn the one down to the ground that doesn't care about the Constitution, the rule of law, or treating every American with the respect and love that each person in this country deserves. And until that happens, we're going to continue to fight. All right, John Weaver, Project Lincoln. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Thanks a lot. All right, gig them. Gig them. Let's go to Eugene Craig, who is, of course, a part of this. I mean, Eugene Craig,, should not underestimate this organization. Again, the ads they're putting out can have an impact when it comes to appealing to those Republicans disaffected with Trump, but also independents. Yeah, and the thing is this, right? You got to swing at Trump in a way that gives the same
Starting point is 00:16:01 energy that Trump sends out. And that's what Project Lincoln's doing. It's something that Republicans haven't done and something that Democrats haven't done. And it's a wide open lane that has to be occupied. And it's something that I'm really excited about. And I'll tell you this, it's something that there are a lot of black Republicans that aren't Trumpers,
Starting point is 00:16:20 that have been around for a while. By for a while, I mean, they put their time into the party and they're looking up and they're seeing hey this is the party i subscribe to and um look they have they have a whole nick of fine here at project lincoln and uh probably another organization that may pop up but the thing is this you gotta swing at trump and you gotta swing at trump yeah you gotta swing them hard you know you know i love michelle obama and i do think in most circumstances when they they go low, you go high.
Starting point is 00:16:45 But when it comes to Donald Trump, the only way to take him down is when he go low, you have to take him to the ground. Look, Avis, Eugene is absolutely right. Democrat. Look, let's just be real clear. Republicans know how to do messaging. You know, it goes all the way back to Reagan's right hand man. They understand bumper sticker slogans. They understand those things. In fact, folks, we're going to have in another, but guys, if y'all could get that Confederate ad ready from the Lincoln Project,
Starting point is 00:17:15 it's a perfect example when they set it up, America or Trump. I mean, it's about messaging to an audience and framing it in a way that they actually understand it. It absolutely is. I have to say I love the Lincoln Project. I'm like their biggest fans. I'm already looking for the next commercial to come out.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Specifically because of how, not only how they frame and how clear and stark their messaging is, but they understand the importance of visual. They understand the importance of innuendo. You know, if you look at, for example, the particular ad that one of the ones that you showed just a few minutes ago, where they are talking about him coming back home after the Tulsa rally, and they're, you know, making references, quite frankly, to his manhood being less than what one might have thought, given his vocalizing about it. I mean, they are directly not just attacking him as a politician, as a president, but they're
Starting point is 00:18:14 attacking his manhood. Why do I like that? I like that because I agree with what Eugene says. You have to hit this person the way he hits. You have to take him down. You have to really just get at his self-esteem, in essence. I mean, you got to play rough. You got to play hard.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And the thing is, the Democrats, why are we like, we're like, what, about 48 hours away from the Tulsa event? And I've not heard anything from the Democratic Party about that. Well, but Mustafa, that's not Democrats. I mean, look, let's just cut to the chase. Democrats want to play nice. Democrats want to do things in a fair way. That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:18:56 They also, I mean, yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, these folks put that thing together. Matter of fact, they've dropped two ads in 48 hours, okay? Two of those ads we ran, the first one ran before Tulsa. The other two ran after Tulsa. That's how you have to you have to be in the news cycle. You have to be quick. You have to respond quickly. And you're absolutely right, Mustafa.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I don't understand why I'm not seeing these ads come from the DNC. I don't understand. I mean, first of all, the Biden campaign, they've been very good with their ads, but you need other entities. What about all these damn progressive organizations, all the millions and millions and millions that they're spending? Okay. You know, where, where's their rapid response ads? Where are they able to go viral online when you're talking about six and eight and 10 and 15 million folks watching them. And so thank goodness, the Lincoln Project. Now, look again, folks, the rally is other Republicans. Yes. At the end of the day, look, some folks who were your enemy last week could be your enemy this week. Because if you've got a like minded enemy, fine, you both take them out and then you can fight with them next year.
Starting point is 00:20:03 But you take this take this one out right now. But, yeah, Democrats had better understand. Forget that Michelle Obama stuff. When they go low, we go high. No, when they go low, you go lower. Yeah, you know, way too many Democrats. They sort of like the great coupon instead of keeping it real and keeping it gully. I mean, you know, if that's what, you know, Trump wants to get
Starting point is 00:20:25 down with, folks got to get down with him the exact same way. And as you said, it's got to come from multiple directions. You know, it's amazing. You got hundreds of millions of dollars that go into campaigns. And when you don't see folks effectively creating messaging and you even don't even have to frame a different narrative. Trump gives you everything you need to show that his policies and his actions in many instances are lethargic. Some people might say impotent in some ways to go with the flow from the Lincoln Project. So we just got to make sure that people are getting focused and that is coming from multiple storytellers because you need that so that it reaches different audiences and they see themselves not only reflected in the impacts that have been happening, but also reflected in how change can actually happen. In fact, we put together, folks, a compilation video of different groups that have been targeting uh donald trump
Starting point is 00:21:25 watch this nobody respects women more than i do you have any questions i have two questions it's okay next place but you didn't you called on me i love women i cherish women she's shocked that i picked her i'm not thinking that's okay i know you're not thinking you never do i'm sorry i have great respect for women what a stupid question but i you a lot. You ask a lot of stupid questions. The way he treats the female reporters is different. Sit down. You know you're a fake. You know that. Caitlin Collins was banned from a late afternoon press event because the White House didn't like the questions she asked the president.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Women! I love the women. April Ryan. you talk about somebody that's a loser. You're so disgraced. That's a racist question. Keep your horses. I'm not responding to you. I'm talking to this gentleman. The way he reacts is different and I think it's time to say so. What is the secret of your success? The president was given or inherited a large portion of his father's real estate fortune worth at least $413 million today. Nine out of ten people don't like what they do. They go from job to job, ultimately becoming nothing.
Starting point is 00:22:37 You'll absolutely love Trump Stakes. The three Atlantic City casinos filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Two years after it opened, the company was history. It never made a profit. Trump University was fraudulent. His family's charity accused of misusing funds. Shakespeare said, never follow an empty wagon up here. Never follow an empty wagon because here, never follow an empty wagon,
Starting point is 00:23:07 because nothing ever falls off. Donald Trump is playing pretend again, saying he's the one to take on China. They can't wait. They know who Donald Trump is. Weak, corrupt, ridiculed. China beats him every time. No matter what he says, China's got his number. Trump even begged Chinese leader Xi to help him win re-election.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Like a dog. Trade negotiations? China won. Trump's tariffs? They laughed as Trump hit American families with higher taxes. Trump's trade war? Farms and small businesses went bankrupt. China's military? Expanding without American leadership in the region. President Xi, Trump rolls over for China's president every time. Is it Ivanka's secret deals in China? Is it the 250 million debt Trump owed the Bank of China? It doesn't matter, because when it comes to Trump, China can't lose. The Lincoln Project is responsible for the content of this advertising. Now, the general says, Sir, we can now leave the stage. I say, great, General, let's go. I'll follow you. And he goes like this, right here, sir.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I said, General, there's no way I can make it down that ramp without falling on my ass, General. So I said, is there, like, something else around? Sir, the ramp is ready to go. So now I have a choice. I can stay up there for another couple of hours and wait until I'm rescued. Or I can go down this really steep, really, really, really, it's an ice skating rink. It's brutal.
Starting point is 00:24:56 So I said, General, get ready because I may grab you so fast. Now he's standing there, big, strong guy. And he's got these shoes, but they're loaded with rubber on the bottom. Because I looked, the first thing I did, I looked at his shoes. Then I looked at mine. Very, very slippery. So I end up saying, okay, General, let's go.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I will only grab you if I need you. And the stage was higher than this one. And the ramp was probably 10 yards long. This was a steel ramp. It had no handrail. It was like an ice skating rink. The President of the United States. The men who followed this flag 150 years ago knew what it meant. Treason against their country.
Starting point is 00:26:04 The death of the United States. America defeated the men who followed that flag. Those with honor surrendered and cast it aside forever. So why does it keep showing up today at events supporting Donald Trump? And why does he call the folks who carry it very fine people? I think there's blame on both sides. But you also had people that were very fine people. What does it say that they're all in for Trump? What does it say that he won't condemn
Starting point is 00:26:38 a flag of hate, division, and losers? Do not replace us! For us, it says this is a time for choosing. America or Trump. Is this who we are? Is this who we want to be? Is this who we want to pass on to our children and our grandchildren? Fear, anger, finger pointing?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Or do we want to be the America we know we can be? The America we know in our hearts we could be and should be? You know, I've said from the outset of this election that we're in the battle for the soul of this nation. American history isn't a fairy tale with a guaranteed happy ending. The battle for the soul of this nation has been a constant push and pull for more than 240 years.
Starting point is 00:27:39 In some of our darkest moments of despair, we've made some of our greatest progress. We stand together, finally as one America. We'll rise stronger than we were before. I'm Joe Biden, and I approve this message. Again, you might say those are petty ads, Eugene, but this is what you got to do to Trump. You got to sit here and you got to be petty with him because he's petty.
Starting point is 00:28:10 How the earlier season of Game of Thrones was. Anybody can get it at any time for anything. That's how Trump operates. That's how you have to operate with him. You can't, you know, I said, you know, we said it back during the election cycle. You cannot, you know, the issue with the issue with everybody that ran against Trump, Republican and Democrat, is that they were trying to be presidential while he was trying to be a street fighter. The only way you can deal with a street fighter is by being a street fighter.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Sometimes it's got to knock them the hell out. And that's what you got to do with Trump. You got to stab him up. You got to cut him up. You got to shank him up. And that's the only way you'll beat him. You know, this election is going to be won on the margins. And that's what black folk and non-black voters.
Starting point is 00:28:49 It's going to be won on the margins. And ads like this is how you increase that margin. It's how you lock in voters early. It's how you make sure black men don't decide that 10%, 15% of them don't decide that they want to go and vote for Trump. Because they're reminded, hey, this guy is not just a closet racist, he's an overt racist. And not only that, of course,
Starting point is 00:29:10 viral videos are critically important. Over the weekend, a three-minute video of activists and Gary Chambers out of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, went viral. Millions of people saw him snap it on Connie. Watch this. So I had intended to get up here and talk about how racist Robert E. Lee was, but I'm gonna talk about you, Connie. Sitting over there shopping while we talking about Robert E. Lee. This is a
Starting point is 00:29:37 picture of you shopping while we talking about racism and history in this country. Only white members of this board got up while we were up here talking too, because you don't give a damn and it's clear. But I'm gonna tell you what the slaves, my ancestors said about Robert E. Lee, since you don't know history sister. Let me tell you that they said when he got the plantation, after he got off the field where 27,000 people died
Starting point is 00:29:59 at Gettysburg, Connie, Robert E. Lee was a brutal slave master. Not only did when he whooped the slaves, he said, lay it on them hard. After he said, lay it on them hard, he said, put brine on them so it'll burn them. That's what Robert E. Lee did. And you set your arrogant self in here and sit on there shopping while the pain and the hurt of the people of this community is on display because you don't give a damn and you should resign. You should have resigned two years ago when you choked a white man in his house.
Starting point is 00:30:31 You should have resigned two weeks ago when you got on TV and said foolishness. And you should walk out of here and resign and never come back. Because you are the example of racism in this community. You are horrible. Not to the rest of the board. You have an obligation to the people of this community. And 81 percent of them are black. And do you need a Klan rally outside, Mr. Golday, before you end it? Because holding it up means that you put that building in jeopardy. You do, sir.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Because all over the country, they're burning stuff down. And black folks in this city have stood with protesters. I ain't seen you elected officials out there with them, making sure that nothing goes south in Baton Rouge. It's been folks in this community who give a damn, not just when it's comfortable, but every time. And four years ago, we came down here. Mr. Drake, they say you're a good man. Be a good man.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Black folks say you're a good man. White folks say you're a good man. Your legacy is a good man white folks say you a good man your legacy is attached to tonight brother your legacy now let me say to the black members of the board it's the most solidarity i've seen out of y'all in forever let's keep that let's stand on this moving forward because we don't need to apologize for Connie Ebelin she showed you who she was when she was oh love it he was calling for East Baton Rouge Paris school board member Connie to apologize she later did so and she said no no no I wasn't shopping there was a pop-up ad and I was trying to figure out how to get rid of it she lied because she was scrolling down on the
Starting point is 00:32:03 ad Gary Chain was the publisher and advocate for the Rouge Collection. He joins us right now. Gary, you all up in Connor's ass. Well, brother, you know, sometimes that's what it requires. Well, the thing against me is she lying in her apology. She was scrolling down.
Starting point is 00:32:20 She was scrolling down. She was shopping. She didn't want to hear none of that. She's sitting next to a black woman, Evelyn Ware Jackson, who serves on the school board with her. And while Evelyn is expressing her sentiments about Robert E. Lee, Connie is sitting there scrolling and shopping. And for me, it really just pissed me off. And I just could not contain just letting them have the unadulterated truth. And what you guys saw is a reflection, in my opinion, of what we as black folks deal with when we deal with our government. That here black folks show up pleading our case about why we should do something to change something that is clearly systemic and structural. And we got a school board member who's just sitting there saying to hell
Starting point is 00:33:05 with what y'all doing. I'm gonna just go shopping while y'all are pleading your hearts out to us, the government. You also made a point, you said that 81% area. How many white board members are on this school board and how did that happen? So let's talk about that in a real way. So Baton Rouge was the was first of all,
Starting point is 00:33:26 we had the longest standing desegregation case in the country. That's number one. And the school district encountered white flight like never before in the 50s, 60s, 70s. Whenever desegregation began to happen, Catholic schools and private schools start opening in Baton Rouge. And so white folks left the system and they never came back. And so now the system is eight, the school system is 81% black. The city of Baton Rouge is 56% black. We have parishes rather than counties.
Starting point is 00:33:56 So our parish is 47 and 47. Yet our school board is a nine member board with five white Republicans and four black Democrats. Our city council, Roland, is 12 members. It is seven white and five Black in a city that is majority Black. And so it's extreme gerrymandering. And so it's important that we take the census as Black folks so that we can get more seats. But we have got to be pressing the gas on these people every day because this is what builds an inequitable system.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Well, you're absolutely right. And again, the fact that they are holding the power and the reality is their children are not going to these school systems. And this is also we saw the same thing in Ferguson. They just got their first black mayor. This is a 67 percent black city. So this is our second black mayor, Mayor Sharon Weston Broom is our second black mayor. But we have watched inequities, whether it is DBEs, disadvantaged business enterprises. I started advocacy about five years ago as a small business owner. I was watching how white owned companies were getting 98 and 97 percent of the contracts in the city of Baton Rouge. And the Baton Rouge area chamber was in support of Baton Rouge being a thriving and growing place. And the chamber still being silent about Connie Bernard resigning. And that breeds a culture of division. It breeds a culture of inequity and a lack of progress. And if we are not,
Starting point is 00:35:26 as you say, on their ass, right, then we will continue to have a foot up ours until we demand that they do something different. And it's about the money. At the bottom line, it's about the money. I keep telling people when Maynard Jackson, when he ran for mayor of Atlanta, African-Americans were getting 0.0012% of all city contracts. And then the other day I saw some, some Republican tweeted, oh, look at all of these black mayors you've had in Atlanta. I said, don't get confused. White folks in Atlanta still want to be able to control the money. And the only reason they have not been able to keep controlling the money because those black mayors use the power of that airport and said, nope, we're going to ensure we open these doors. And that's what this boils down to is that is they say, look, we might lose the demographic numbers, but we control the money. We control the city, the school board,
Starting point is 00:36:22 the state, the nation. And so, Roland, I did a video about a week ago where I was talking about I don't believe that there are black meccas. I know that folks have advocated that Atlanta is a black mecca and D.C. was a black mecca at one point. Because at the end of the day, those cities are municipalities that are still checked by the state government. And so a state like Louisiana, which 34 percent black, a city like Baton Rouge, which is 56 percent black. When you look at a majority black city that still has a majority white council or when you look at Atlanta, where voter suppression is still in operation because Kemp, the governor, was the secretary of state, suppressed the vote. And then when he's governor, we've got black folks standing in line like that. As long as the checks and balances are above us and they have the power of the state legislature,
Starting point is 00:37:08 we are still in a battle. And so we've got to be deliberate about all politics being local and not just voting in this presidential election where Donald Trump, Agent Orange, is doing his thing. We've got to focus in on the people where that federal money and that state money comes down to the local level. Our school board in Baton Rouge is a $425 million budget. Our city of Baton Rouge is a $900 million budget. The state of Louisiana is a $27 billion budget. And when you talk about those resources and 98, 95% of those money is going to white businesses, well, that explains why black folks don't have the same level of income as white families, because the companies that we own do not get fed into by our tax dollars. And the assault on us is that they are taxing us, right, without
Starting point is 00:37:56 giving us equal representation. But this is also why and when I did the State of Black America report in Indianapolis. It was October. And I asked, I said, if you were or are a public worker, stand up. Probably about 80% of the room stood up. And I tried to walk them through this thing. And I said, do y'all understand who actually controls Wall Street? And people looked at me like I was crazy. I said, this is who controls Wall Street, pension funds.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Yes, sir. I said, pension funds are the ones who give billions of dollars to hedge funds. And I was on a call the other day on this, this is an exclusive app called Clubhouse, and a whole bunch of venture capitalists on there. And somebody asked me the question, they said, how do we change the VC world?
Starting point is 00:38:52 I said, see, you focus on the wrong thing. You can't change the VC world unless you change the pension world. I said, because see, and then I said, where does the money come from in the pension world? It comes from the public workers. So really what has to happen, see, and then I said, where does the money come from in the pension world? It comes from the public workers. So really what has to happen, Gary, we've got to get these black folks who are public workers, who are retired teachers and police officers and firefighters and secretaries and janitors to say,
Starting point is 00:39:20 you need to be mobilizing, saying we're tired of all these white folks controlling the pension funds. We need to see black lawyers, black bondholders. I said, all of us, I said, if that level of people rise up, then you change the pension boards. Then you change the wall street. Then you change the venture capitalist. I said, it comes down to the money. Yes, sir. And it starts at the grassroots level is what you're talking about. It starts at the local level because that's where we have the rubber meets the road. And if we stand up and use our power, we can effectuate change all over this country. I think we see it happening. I think that there is, I would say it like this, Roland, we don't all wake up at the same time in the morning
Starting point is 00:40:05 and all black folks don't become woke at the same time. But I do believe that the things that are happening in this country are waking some of us up. Our young people that are showing up in the streets protesting consistently and agitating against the police. Well, the longer that a police officer stays on the clock, I know you may think he's getting paid overtime, but he can't go home
Starting point is 00:40:25 to his family and sleep. And in a COVID environment where cities' budgets are stretched, you're going to stretch that city's budget even further. And so we've got to be deliberate in every area. And what your suggestion is, well, those that have retirement plans and pension funds, you do your part at your level. Maybe your level isn't getting in the streets, but it's getting on the phone with your public officials and saying enough is enough. Absolutely. Absolutely. And now, first of all, you got to be shocked at how this thing has spread.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I mean, I saw entertainers and others. I mean, look, Morning Joe reached out to you, all the rest of these people. And see, here's my whole deal. I'm glad those folks are posting those videos, but the reality is I need them posting that kind of stuff every day using their influence. And for the Morning Joes of the world to be calling folk like you on a regular basis versus having the Donnie Dorches of the world
Starting point is 00:41:18 saying the same bullshit he normally trickles out all the time, no, have real people who are on the ground speak. See, I ain't got a problem. The show is called Unfiltered. I appreciate it, brother. You know, I quoted Pimp C this morning on Morning Joe because, you know, we out here. We out here. They rapping about it and we out here paying the price.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And everyday advocates all over the country are doing their part on a local level. And so when I saw the shout out from LeBron James, man, I had to go and check it out and find out was it real for myself. Somebody sent me the screenshot. I was like, this can't be real because folks like me on a local level, we don't get to have these types of conversations. We're fighting this fight every day. And so if I could, I would just say to LeBron, to Miss Ava DuVernay, to all of those people, call me and let's have a conversation about how we mobilize your resources and your influence on a local level all over the country. Fifty five percent of black folks live in the deep south. Let's take the south over and create a new black south. I'm about that. But I think that we've got to realize that there are those of us who do this work on a grassroots level that can lean information in with those resources. And when we bring in every aspect of what we do as black folks, we already know we magical.
Starting point is 00:42:34 But how are we going to be powerful with that magic? And what are we going to do? My homeboy, Ryan Thompson, has a quote. He says, we treat our entertainers and rappers like scholars and our scholars like entertainers. And until we get to the point where we treat our people and our community that do this work with the honor, and listen, I appreciate the love and support, brother. I am mobilizing right now because I want to go all over the deep south and train new black leaders because what you see is the passion of young people. And it's no disrespect to those who came before,
Starting point is 00:43:05 but some of them have stayed over their due. And I'm 34, Roland. I'm not going to be 70 fighting these same battles. And I'm going to have that same tenacity. But we've got to pass this knowledge down because there's brothers like Cleve Dunn and Edmund Jordan and Baton Rouge who shared knowledge with me when I was 29 years old
Starting point is 00:43:22 and said, hey, brother, you got this media platform, but you ain't doing nothing with it. Lean in for your people, right? And so I've been doing this for the last five years, but we can turn this up. The beauty of this moment is, I think, like I said, we don't all wake up at the same time, but I do think that alarm clock is going off, brother. Well, I'll say this here. First of all, I saw Ava's tweet where she said, man, who is this brother? And then I went to your Twitter feed, and I saw you were following me, and your
Starting point is 00:43:51 email was on there, and I sent her your email. Wow, I appreciate that, brother. So I met you at Essence a few years ago, and I'm definitely going to drop that picture. I know you meet a lot of people, but I've been a fan for years, brother, because you've been speaking truth to power in a way that many people don't appreciate. And for folks like me on the local level who need Black folks
Starting point is 00:44:15 to tell our stories, Black man, I appreciate you and I love you to the moon for what you do. And I know that the reason you're not on CNN is because you are unapologetically black. And we as black folk got to say, Roland Martin is important to our culture. Roland Martin is important to our people. And we got to stand up with this black man because he's putting our platform out there where we can tell it without having to be sugarcoated. Roland, I put my, my Connie, go home, Connie shirt on because I was coming on here with you because she got to go, baby. She got to go. Absolutely. She got to go.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Absolutely. Well, I tell you what, we talking about all the Karens of the world. And trust me, I think you about to add. That's Karen Mama. You about to add the Connie's to the world. And y'all do me a favor. Just so y'all know. See, I've been teaching everything.
Starting point is 00:45:02 This is when I knew, when i saw the video before gary said a word y'all play the video look at gary's left hand he had to put the pimp hand position he knew he about to smack y'all play the look watch the left hand right there right there see see right there look see i need y'all to see i need y'all to see. I need y'all to see. Come on back. Y'all didn't see. Y'all see what he did? He put the hand, he put the hand out. Then he extended the hand like, now I'm about to smack the hell out of you right now.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Because I got you. Oh, yeah. I got you. Absolutely. We're going to get the business clear. And, Roland, let me say this, brother. We as black folk cannot continue to let these folks slide. We are voters. We are voters. We are taxpayers.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Every time you go to the store and spend a dollar, the government is taking some of your money. Your check, the government is taking some of your money. Your property, the government is taking your money. Even if you are a renter, when you pay your taxes, the people who pay the property taxes take your rent money to pay those property taxes. So I'd be damned if we ought to be quiet and we ought to stand in their face and agitate them. Rolling, there were young black protesters in Baton Rouge that took a protest to the district attorney's house because he ain't doing nothing about the injustices. And I want to talk to you at another time about the Baton Rouge three, because Trump's DOJ is attempting to
Starting point is 00:46:21 overcharge three young black people who committed simple arson, and now they're being charged with, what is it called, interference with interstate commerce by Brandon Freeman, the U.S. attorney for the Middle District of Louisiana. I just had to get that in there because it's important because they are attempting to overcharge these people. Well, we'll certainly have you back on to talk about that.
Starting point is 00:46:44 And one of the reasons we created this platform because there are a to overcharge these people. Well, we'll certainly have you back on, talk about that. And one of the reasons we created this platform, because there are a lot of activists like you who don't get called on national television unless a video picks up millions of followers. And so we've had many folks like you on for that very reason, to be able to bring light to sort of some of these issues. So we certainly will have you back, Gary Chambers.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Thanks a lot. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. Appreciate you. Keep it good and seek justice, Gary Chambers. Thanks a lot. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. Appreciate it. Do good and seek justice. Yes, sir. Thanks a bunch. All right, folks. Look, what you just heard is why this platform matters,
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Starting point is 00:49:27 Suite 400, Washington, D.C., 2006. Please make it out to New Vision Media so we can deposit it properly. I've got so many other letters. I'll read some of those later this week as well. I want to go back to my panel real quick here. What you just heard there, Mustafa, what Gary laid out is exactly what the fundamental issue is. We must be in a position to challenge authority and what he did to Connie and calling out those black board members and those white board members, that needs to be more of that.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And I keep telling people, I keep saying to, look, you and Alpha, I am as well, brothers in black and gold, people in crimson and cream, people in pink and green and all these colors, people who are not Greek, 100 black men, ladies of distinction. We should be just hitting these school board place, school board meetings and city council meetings and county commissioners meeting so they can feel our power and our presence. Yeah, no, I appreciate Gary. He was
Starting point is 00:50:20 pulling receipts on people left and right. And, you know, and that is definitely a part of the process to hold people accountable and let folks know, you know, what time it really is. But the other part of it is, as you said, getting engaged. You know, we should be running the school boards. We should be making sure that we are running candidates for the school boards. We should be also making sure that we're preparing people to be the next judges and supporting those judges who actually, you know, care about what's happening inside of our communities. There should be no sheriffs.
Starting point is 00:50:49 There should be, you know, no police chiefs coming into the mix that have not been vetted by our communities. We know the impacts when we are not doing that. So why don't we flip the script and make sure that before people get these jobs that we are fully engaged in the process, letting people know that we were going to hold them accountable, but also what we are expecting from them. Lots of times when we don't let people know what our expectations are, they think they can play with us. Avis, at the end of the day, again, mobilization, challenging authority where we are in using our power is critical. Absolutely it is. And I was so proud to see him take Connie and that entire school board to task. And, you know, as you mentioned, this is exactly what we need to be doing all across the country.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And I love the fact that, you know, he was fully in his power as he was doing so. And we're already seeing what's happening as a result. I mean, she's having to come back and lie about the apology. But the bottom line is the specific issue that he was talking about. I can guarantee you that the name of that high school is going to change. I can guarantee you it's going to happen. And that's what it takes. It takes people who are willing to stand up, speak truth to power, and let the chips fall where they may and fight for what they want. And that's what's going to, that's really what's required to create change all around this country at every level of government,
Starting point is 00:52:10 from the grassroots right on up to the top. Look, folks, this impacts everything that we do, including COVID-19. As of today, there are 2.2 million cases of COVID-19 in the United States. 27,000 of those cases are new. 119,923 people have died from the disease. 308 of those deaths are new. Now, of course, among the many ignorant remarks made by Donald Trump at his rally on Saturday,
Starting point is 00:52:37 watch this one. Here's the bad part. When you test... When you do testing to that extent, you're gonna find more people, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases. So I said to my people, slow the testing down, please. They test and they test. We got tests. People don't know what's going on. We got tests. We got to know. Now, after the rally, the Trump campaign said, ah, we were just joking.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Eugene, who the hell jokes about something that has killed nearly 120,000 Americans? That's not a joking matter. And this is coming from the alleged most pro-life president ever, right? The one that now can account for 122,000 deaths, which very well may go up to 200,000 deaths by the time the election rolls around here. You don't joke about something like that. And then you also don't lie about it. You know, President Trump and Vice President Pence were asking the
Starting point is 00:53:45 governors to go out and lie and say, oh, the issue is that we're doing more testing. So the rates are going up. But that doesn't account for the hospitalization rates or the death rates. And so the thing is this, when Donald Trump asks Black America, what do you have to lose? It's literally your life. Literally, when it comes to COVID, when it comes to the racial tension in the country right now, it's literally your life. You know, our community is more susceptible to it and has a disproportionate death rate. And look, the thing is this, it could have been preventable. They could have came out in March and in February, March to say, hey, everybody mask up.
Starting point is 00:54:21 They could have in February, March, you know, start deploying tests and figuring out where to procure them and get them out there to help save lives. But what this what this president did was he discounted the virus, you know, tried to racialize it. And then on top of that, delayed his response to it. And now we're seeing one2,000 deaths, and he thinks it's okay to get up at a rally and joke about it, and joke about the slowing down, because that's what he thinks helps them politically. I mean, that's going to be a call to arms for every single person to make sure
Starting point is 00:54:53 they vote in November. Dr. Ebony Jade Hilton, she's Associate Professor of Anesthesiology and Critical Care Medicine at the University of Virginia, and Medical Director of Goodstock Consulting, LLC. We also saw over the weekend where D.O. Hegley announced that he also has COVID-19. We're trying to get Ebony's audio fixed. Folks, let me know when we actually have her audio. And for the
Starting point is 00:55:19 people out there, look, I get people are running around and they are wanting to go to bars and they want to go to pools and they want to go out and do all these sort of things. But folks need to understand that this thing is is real. D.L. was performing over the weekend. He collapsed on stage. They initially said dehydration. This is a video that he put out this weekend. Hey, it's me, D.L. Hughley. I'm just being released from St. Thomas Hospital in Nashville. I want to thank them for taking such good care of me. I want to thank you all for your well wishes and your prayers and you comedians who
Starting point is 00:55:55 called such evil things when I was scared to death. Thank you, too. Um, I really appreciate it. Thank you everybody for your prayers and where wishes. When I came, I was being treated for extreme exhaustion and dehydration, which I was very dehydrated. But it turns out they ran a battery of tests and I also tested positive for COVID-19, which blew me away. I was what they call asymptomatic. I didn't have
Starting point is 00:56:27 any symptoms that, you know, other classic symptoms. I didn't have flu-like symptoms. I didn't have shortness of breath. I didn't have difficulty breathing. I didn't have a cough. I didn't have a low-grade fever. I still don't have a fever. I didn't have a loss of smell or taste. Apparently, I just lost consciousness. So, in addition to all the other stuff you have to look out for, if your ass pass out in the middle of a show, on stage, you probably need to get tested so I am going back to my hotel room to quarantine for 14 days and well thank you for your prayers and your well wishes and a few more of them wouldn't hurt so hopefully I won't develop symptoms. Maybe this is as bad as it gets and I'll just pass out over and over again or not. But thank you. I appreciate your thoughts and your prayers and they did not go unnoticed or unfilled. Thank you. So I said to my people, slow the testing down please government's initial response to the
Starting point is 00:57:49 pandemic has cost american lives trump himself ignored warnings about the virus making the u.s slow to react dr anthony fauci admits government inaction may have cost american lives if we would have done more sooner or people would have lived started mitigation earlier. You could have saved lives It was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then Dr. Ebony Hilton that surely has to piss you off that this man stood there and they came back say oh no no no I was joking Right, right it there and they came back and said, oh, no, no, no. I was joking. Right. Right. I mean, it's absolutely insane. And even when he says, you know, this whole slow to testing now, yes, we
Starting point is 00:58:31 performed 28 million tests in the United States, but that all depends on how many people you actually have living in your country. So we have 320 million people living in the United States. So we can compare that to how we rank worldwide. We rank 26th as far as how many tests we've tested per million people. So you can't clap for yourself if you're 26th in the world. But not only that, the reality is he has previously said on numerous occasions that, well, you know, we keep having these numbers showing an increase because we keep testing. That's the point of testing. Okay. D.L. Hughley now knows he's walking around with COVID-19.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Right. That's why you test. Right. Exactly. And like I said, you know, on Twitter, I wish D.L. Healy the absolute best. And I also wish that everyone in the audience to go get tested for COVID-19 now. They also need to self-isolate. You know, like I said, we're 26 in the world as far as testing, but we are actually ninth in the world as far as how many people per one million people that we've had die from COVID-19.
Starting point is 00:59:45 We're number one in the world for total number of cases of COVID-19 and total number of deaths for COVID-19. But Donald Trump, we already know that he doesn't make sense when he talks every day, but particularly when you're talking about in a pandemic that you're testing too many people and that you should slow down. I think the example he gave was that a 10-year-old had the sniffles that they don't need to get tested. And I'm like, you're talking about a 10-year-old kid.
Starting point is 01:00:15 He just has no bottom. Well, again, though, but see, remember early on, early on remember when he did not want the folks coming off the cruise ship because he said that would increase our numbers of positive tests in the country. He doesn't want to see the bad numbers. And so now, oh, I was just joking?
Starting point is 01:00:36 No, I don't think he was joking. I think he absolutely put the clamps on it. That's why we barely seen Dr. Birx. That's why we barely seen Dr. Fauci. That's why you don't have daily reports going on. That's why Mike Pence is out there down playing what's going on.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And what's happening? Why am I weighing Houston strong? Because my people in Houston and folks in my native city, all of a sudden, hospitals in Houston are telling doctors discharge as many people as possible to free those beds up. The governor of Texas, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:01:07 the guy who wants to open everything up now says he's alarmed but the number increases. It's because of idiots like you, Greg Abbott, were so insistent on ignoring people like Mayor Sylvester Turner of Houston, ignoring the mayor of Dallas and county judges who were saying,
Starting point is 01:01:23 slow this down, we're not ready. And now all of a sudden, numbers are going up. And Texas is not going to be alone because, you know, in America we like to stick together, we're united. So they're going to be united with Florida. They're going to be united with Arizona. They're going to be united with South Carolina. All those states have at least 300% to 600% increase
Starting point is 01:01:44 in their number of cases since opening up their economy. And so we talk about this time and time again. You can't open up an economy against a virus of which you have no strategy because biology will always win against economy. It does not care if you make a dollar or not. And so until we have testing, tracing, and treatment in place, we're going to be in this constant battle of did we open too soon, and now what do we do? And so we're seeing in Miami they're already talking about having to close that down. In Houston, they're going to have to start closing that down. This is not going to be a unique situation.
Starting point is 01:02:23 People are going to die in droves because we're just not ready. This is an interview today with Joe St. George of Scripps Television at the White House where he specifically asked Trump. Now, remember, he made the comment on Saturday. His aides came back and said, oh, no, he was joking. They went out on national television. But here is Trump answering the question. Listen very closely. On Saturday night, you said that you told your staff to slow the testing down to improve the numbers.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Does that mean someone watching this right now on their local news is not going to get a test because you asked? We do more testing than any country in the world by far. Twenty five million tests. Other countries do one million. Every time you do a test, as you do more tests, it shows more and more cases. So we're so far advanced, both in terms of the quality and the amount. And we're doing all these tests, and it shows cases.
Starting point is 01:03:15 If other countries aren't doing, or if we did slow it down, we wouldn't show nearly as many cases. You're showing people that are asymptomatic. You're showing people that have very little problem. You're showing young people that don't have a problem. But we're doing so much testing, 25 million tests. Nobody thought that was possible. But did you ask to slow it down? If it did slow down, frankly, I think we're way ahead of ourselves, if you want to know the truth. We've done too good a job because every time we go out with 25 million tests, you're going to find
Starting point is 01:03:42 more people. So then they say, oh, we have more cases in the United States. The reason we have more cases because we do more testing than any other country by far. Amity, did you hear an answer? I heard him say that we're doing too good of a job. And I don't know what they ended in a why. I mean, this is when I say that there truly does need to be a 25th Amendment because we're into dangerous territory of citizens are depending to live and not spread a virus to other citizens within the United States. That makes absolute, it's like bioterrorism on your own people. So I need whoever does the 25th Amendment to do that part. So we can do our job in the hospital to try to keep as many people alive as possible.
Starting point is 01:04:42 And right now we're losing that battle. And it's unnecessary. I'm going to pull in my panel here. Mustafa, when you see what's going on here, again, what's happening in Texas, in Louisiana, in Alabama, we're seeing the cases in Florida. People need to understand that this thing is real. When I look at those photos with that woman who had a double lung transplant,
Starting point is 01:05:06 Mustafa, and I see that COVID lung, I'm going, hey, y'all can go to hell with all this group get-together and trying to hop on planes, flying everywhere. This is still a deadly virus. It's extremely deadly. But, you know, the problem is that the president likes to create
Starting point is 01:05:25 these false narratives. You know, he built his career on being a marketer, if you really understand how he's been able to have whatever level of success that he's had. And that's because he frames out the narrative. So if he thinks that he can continue to tell people that everything is OK, if he continues to not wear masks, which sends a message across the country that, well, if the president isn't wearing one and many of the people who are part of his cabinet aren't, then that must mean that I, you know, everyday Joe or everyday Connie, then it must be okay for me to continue to, you know, emulate this type of behavior. And for me, I'm very clear. He is responsible for the 100,000-plus lives that have been lost.
Starting point is 01:06:09 And he's also responsible for the trillions of dollars that have been a part of that loss. And I don't know why folks don't call it out, because lots of times, if you talk to people about their pocketbooks, that may sometimes get their attention, unfortunately, before actually focusing on all the lives that have been lost, which is, of course, where we should first be focusing.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Avis, this is June. July 4th is coming up. And the reality is this, Avis. People are going to congregate. And look, we saw the same thing when people out there protesting. I totally understood, Avis, why they were protesting, but it was a huge fear in terms of what's going to happen when all of a sudden these folks come back with these positive tests. I know. It's so disturbing and frustrating when I go out and I see people acting like this thing
Starting point is 01:06:59 is over. I'm like, it isn't, okay? I know, I do feel fortunate living in Virginia that our governor has taken responsibility with ensuring and mandating that people wear masks when they are out in public, when they are in stores. I mean, all the stores have a sign on the door. Before you come in, you must put on a mask because they are responsible. We're responsible here because we, thank God, have a governor who is responsible. But the problem is that when you don't have a
Starting point is 01:07:29 president who exhibits that level of leadership, you have a great level of variance across the nation in terms of what governors actually are looking out for the health of their citizens and what governors are not. And that is disturbing. I don't know how many times I've said on this show, and I think Trump just proved it the other day, that he was intentionally not testing or trying to reduce the level of testing specifically to suppress the numbers. And he has admitted that himself. It was out of his mouth. Listen to what he said. He said what he meant. He meant what he said. It was not a joke. And the sad thing is he does not care when people die as a result. Eugene, this is about reelection. Pure and simple. This is about Donald Trump focusing on reelection and he does not care if Americans die.
Starting point is 01:08:19 He doesn't. It's the only thing that matters. This matters from day one. That's what matters now. You know, it's sad. Lives are being lost. And you're seeing, you know, a lot of the Sunbelt governors follow his lead. You know, you're seeing record numbers in Florida and record numbers in Georgia, record numbers in Arizona. We don't need to, you know, when lives don't need to unnecessarily be lost. But all of this is about Donald Trump getting reelected. He needs the economy to bounce back somehow, some way to help spark his re-election. But if that Tulsa rally this weekend was any indicator of what's to come, if he can't pack out a rally in the middle of Oklahoma, then, you know, I think that, you know, Joe Biden might have a good day in November. Ebony, look, you and I talk a lot.
Starting point is 01:09:13 We text a lot. And the bottom line is you're out here working damn near seven days a week. I mean, you're working your job and all of a sudden you're going out here trying to to test people on weekends, traveling all around the state of Virginia. And this is where you need to have politicians who are taking this thing seriously. But what you have is you have Republican governors who are so desperate to follow the lead of Donald Trump and keep following these crazy people who go, hey, what's the big deal, y'all? This is no biggie. And then they go into these stores. I'm trying to find the video somebody's sending to me
Starting point is 01:09:48 of this guy who literally was about to fight Walmart workers because they said, you got to put a mask on. I mean, these people are absolutely out of their mind because they're like, I don't care. I'm not wearing a mask. Folks are dying. Yeah. I mean, it's one of those things. I agree. I am very grateful that I am living in the state of Virginia. Governor Northam has been fantastic. He actually hired the first chief diversity
Starting point is 01:10:18 officer, Dr. Underwood, to look at health equity amongst black and brown communities, those in lower socioeconomic status, LGBT communities, the target vulnerable populations. He said, let's have a whole office dedicated to see what we can do to make sure we keep Virginians as safe and healthy as possible, which should be the ideal and goal for every state and every governor. But what we're seeing is that you literally can see where the higher cases and what is the opening reopening strategy. And you can tell if that's a Democratic ran state or a Republican ran state. And that is absolutely insane. But it shows the American people what we need to do, which is in November, we have
Starting point is 01:11:05 to vote these people out because they are voting along party lines and not along common sense. I mean, you don't even need scientific knowledge for this. It's just common sense. Well, like, here's this here. And again, when you see folks acting a fool, you can pretty much say, that's a Republican. I mean, yo, so I found a video. Folks, watch this.
Starting point is 01:11:28 This is actually from a Walmart in Florida. Watch this. Well, you gotta wear a mask, bro. Hey, sir, everybody got on mass man. Everybody got on mass man. You want a mask, man? I got some. Bro, this is too funny, bro. Poor thing, man.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Look, he got a... Look at him, bro. Bro, the man doing his job, bro. Just get a mask. Five times right there, Ebony. That guy assaulted the Walmart worker, and the guy's like, dude, you got to put a mask on. And the insane thing is he looks high risk just by looking at him. And that's the crazy thing,
Starting point is 01:12:36 is when you pledge allegiance to Trump, for lack of better words, but when you pledge allegiance to someone that has no direction and literally is a narcissist, a malignant narcissist, and you know that he will do any and everything just for the betterment of him, then you should also know that he will put your life at risk. And so someone who knows full well they're older and likely has comorbidities on top of that, you are literally actively almost committing acts of kind of suicide? Like, why would you intentionally want to do that
Starting point is 01:13:15 in the long run of all places? Well, but here's the deal, though. First of all, you saw that video. He's walking in, Ebony, and that's the food section. Dude, you could be breathing on food there. And in fact, this was the video from last week, from four days ago in Brooklyn, New York. Again, where you had one of these crazy-ass people.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And the reason I'm playing these people is because, look, after the George Floyd case, we were so focused on that. The reality is, every day, we're gonna keep doing these COVID-19 updates because we are being most impacted. People are still testing positive. They're still dying. Although, because cable news is not focusing on it as much as they were, it's still happening. Watch this, y'all.
Starting point is 01:13:56 This was in Brooklyn, no service. You need to go. You need to be right down. She will never take this off. You need to take this off. You need to be...no. This is her establishment. This is her workplace. Stop harassing her. This is a protest. This is not a protest.
Starting point is 01:14:20 This is not a protest. You're harassing me. I'm making a protest. This isn't a protest. I'm making a protest. I'm making a protest. Yes. Yes, I'm making a protest. All lives matter. All lives matter. All lives matter. All lives matter. Wait, you guys don't know how to make a protest. I'm not allowed to make a protest.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Here's a guy. Here's a guy, Mustafa. You take the Black Lives Matter sign down and she says, no mask, no service. Now I'm trying to figure out, don't you see signs that say no shoes, no shirt, no service? What's the, like, okay, what's the difference?
Starting point is 01:14:58 I mean, yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I mean, we could really simplify this. Whether on the federal level, the president, if he was serious about protecting people's lives, could work with Congress, can work with governors and others and say, we're going to have a national set of requirements. And one of those requirements is that you have to wear a mask. It's not that difficult. And they could also put some of these other things in place. So there is consistency. You see, the president doesn't want consistency because with consistency comes responsibility.
Starting point is 01:15:29 And he does not want to be responsible in this moment for anything. He wants to have the flexibility to say, well, they decided they didn't want to do it. So that's what it comes down to. We need leadership. And with leadership, he can make sure that the country is protected because everybody would be in agreement. And he would be actually showing by wearing his own mask that it is serious and that is a priority to get our country's economy going again, because we have to make sure that we are dealing with this virus. And once we had that taken care of, then we could focus on the economy.
Starting point is 01:16:03 All right, then, Ebony Hilton, your last comment, please. All right. Well, the only trouble I actually don't know if he's going that deep into reasons of why he doesn't. I think it's honestly he doesn't want to necessarily be truthful about things, for one, because he doesn't know what to do. But for two, because if he does lose this election by acknowledging that he completely flopped on all of this, he can get indicted. So I honestly just think this is a, let me put my head in the sand. Let me hope everyone else does too, so that I can stay in office because I can't be indicted while I'm a sitting president. But that's why we people have
Starting point is 01:16:42 to be focused to say in November, I don't care who is on a ticket and what they what we have to do. We need to vote. Sending your absentee ballots. You can do your mail in ballot now. Make those requests. Make some phone calls. Get people energized because we cannot afford to have four more years of this chaos. That's it. Dr. Ebony J. Hilton, we appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. Thank you. Y'all have a good one. Alright, will do. Folks, when we come back, we'll talk voter suppression in Kentucky. Huge election tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:17:12 How in the hell do you have normally 3,700 early voting locations or voting locations? Tomorrow, it will only be 200 in the entire state. And the county, most populous for African Americans? One.
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Starting point is 01:20:40 But also remember, Democrats can just pick up four seats to take over the U.S. Senate. Now, there's an election tomorrow. You've got State Representative Charles Booker who's running against Amy McGrath for a Democratic nomination, but you've got a bunch of whole other positions. What the hell's going on in that state where you're only going to have 200 early voting locations that are opened? Here's a video from the Booker campaign.
Starting point is 01:21:02 Check this out. OPENED. HERE'S A VIDEO FROM THE BOOKER CAMPAIGN. CHECK THIS OUT. you you you you you Thank you.. A movement in Kentucky which brings together blacks, whites, and Latinos, teachers, miners, and farmers, Republicans, Democrats, and independents, standing up for working people, fighting for change. People united! Look me in the eyes, Mitch. Have you seen any signs that suggests to you
Starting point is 01:23:45 that Mitch McConnell is afraid of running against you? Can you see us now? Eugene, this race has been unbelievable in that Amy McGrath has raised $40 million. And there's a poll last week showing Booker, who's only raised about a couple of million with an eight point lead. Now, the McGrath campaign says their internal pollings that she has a double digit lead. But the fact that his campaign has really just surged as a
Starting point is 01:24:18 result of these protests shows you this this energy that is existing out there for people who want strong, authentic candidates as opposed to a McGrath who says, oh, you know, I can work with Trump. Yeah, I mean, the thing is this, right? I think the turning point of this campaign, I believe it was a debate between Booker and McGrath, and McGrath did not have an answer for Black Lives Matter, did not have an answer why she wasn't out there
Starting point is 01:24:44 standing with Black Lives Matter, did not have an answer why she wasn't out there standing with Black Lives Matter. And look, you know, Booker has lived this life that, you know, all of us black men live, right? And so what you're seeing here is when a moment whose time has come, you have to have somebody who's prepared and Charles Booker is prepared. And you're seeing movement towards his campaign. You're seeing the momentum there. You're seeing, you know, yes, he's raised $40 million, you know, because D.C. is pretty much, you know, was ready to crown her. But, you know, the voters of Kentucky is who decide this primary. And the energy is behind Booker. Look, Jackie, excuse me, look, Avis, what's happening right now is this here.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Booker is gaining, but the Democratic, the DSCC put their thumb on this race. They basically said, won't anybody but him. In fact, same thing happened to State Senator Royce West. Okay, his opponent, the Schumer-led DSCC, has said we're backing her. So they've chosen two, they've chosen a white woman and a Latino woman over two black men
Starting point is 01:25:54 who are running in Kentucky and Texas. Yeah, I'm not too surprised. That oftentimes happens, where the DSCC, they choose their favorites, and it's rare is somewhere between rare and never that their favorite is actually a black person it you know it's very very very extremely rare so I'm not surprised that that has occurred but at the end of the day the voters choose the voters choose and it would be very very amazing and interesting if he actually ekes out
Starting point is 01:26:27 a victory, because that will tell us something about the transferability of the energy from the streets to the ballot box. You know, this is an amazing test case. You know, that last time in 2016, a lot of people who were active around the Black Lives Matter movement, you know, some of them were very vocal about the fact that they didn't vote, right, or didn't vote for president, you know, just voted down ballot and had some other choices. It would be really interesting to see here that as this energy is, you know, continues to mount on the street, to see the transferability of that in the ballot box would be incredible because it would show that, yes,
Starting point is 01:27:08 it's important to be out and vocal and protest for your rights, but it's also important to make sure that you also make your voices heard at the ballot box so that those two faces of power can be wielded. We cannot underestimate the voter suppression, what is happening, because people are afraid of coronavirus there in Kentucky. Mustafa, to go from thirty seven hundred statewide voted polling locations to two hundred there in the county where Louisville is. They plan to use the convention center and just a lineup booth. I mean, today was an early voting day. And I really hope all these black folks are in line right now or were in line voting in Kentucky because tomorrow
Starting point is 01:27:52 is going to be an absolute mess. I can see people in line tomorrow for five, six, 10, 12 hours. It's a dangerous situation, but I mean, I understand people's commitment to vote and they understand how important it is. And there's a lot of people. So I have family that's in Kentucky. So folks are feeling the energy that Booker is bringing. And, you know, he's building this crazy, crazy, powerful coalition of folks from the mountains and folks on the inner cities and all over. So the thing that's really curious is that, you know, folks have known we're in this COVID-19 moment, but yet they refuse to, because I had a conversation with some folks and they're like,
Starting point is 01:28:36 well, a lot of the elders, you know, who usually work at our polling booths and do it. Well, if you know we're in this COVID-19 moment, let's get younger people. You know, let's get middle-aged folks, you know, who are trained up and are protected to be able to make sure that we have, you know, these polling locations open. Of course, we all know that this is a part of the game. You know, that when you can manipulate this, you can manipulate the turnout. And there may even be something more nefarious, which I hope there isn't, in the sense that having all these folks of color pushed into a, you know, into a smaller location and being exposed to things. I hope that that's not it. So we're not going to put that energy out there. But they could make sure that they're doing much better and making sure that there are the opportunities for folks to vote.
Starting point is 01:29:20 And, you know, we'll just have to see how it all turns out. Joining us right now is Christian Clark, who leads the Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law. And Christian, on that point, look, my parents are 73. They've worked polls for decades. And, yeah, I'm greatly concerned with the there's a runoff coming up in Texas with the case of with State Senator Royce West. But you also have November. I mean, that is legitimate. But these but Kentucky had enough time to prepare for this to go from thirty seven hundred to less than two to two hundred. I mean, that's not even that's saw the elimination or consolidation of polling sites. But this is quite dramatic what's happening in Jefferson County, Kentucky. It almost defies logic. It's a large county. It's one of the largest in terms of its population. And for people who have disabilities, people who don't live near public transportation, it may be challenging tomorrow. At this stage, though, we are very hopeful that everyone who wants to turn out and vote in person will have the opportunity to do so.
Starting point is 01:30:41 We're out of time. Our election protection team will be working around the clock tomorrow. We encourage the public to call our nonpartisan hotline at 866-OUR-VOTE, 866-OUR-VOTE, if they encounter any problems voting at that Expo Center in Jefferson County or accessing the few polling sites that will be in operation in other parts of the state. There are other elections happening tomorrow in New York and in South Carolina and Virginia. We will be working all day long. But, you know, Roland, in the recent election in Georgia, we saw what happened when they shut down polling sites. People were confused about where to go. There were long lines, and we had to go to court to get poll hours extended. So if that's what it comes down to tomorrow, we're prepared to go into court to defend people's right to vote. But, you know, you do wish that Jefferson County just came up with a better plan and gave people more than a single option on election day.
Starting point is 01:31:48 So people will be vigilant and prepared to fight. And that's some 600,000 people in that county that will only have one voting location. So now you've got to deal with transportation, get into the voting location where normally you're down. And again, that's where you have more African-Americans. Half of the African-Americans in Kentucky live in two counties. That's right. And look, I'm glad that you are spotlighting this problem. The city is actually going to run a shuttle from Union Station in Louisville to the Expo Center.
Starting point is 01:32:20 If you go on the Jefferson County Board of Elections website, you can't find that information. They are not working to ensure people are armed with all the information they need to go and vote tomorrow. So I'm glad that you're shining a spotlight on this. I am hopeful that people will turn to us as a resource and call the election protection hotline at 866-OUR-VOTE. Right now, it's come down to kind of these grassroots efforts to make sure that people are armed with the information they need to get out and vote tomorrow. And, you know, I just want to acknowledge that we're 101 days out from the tragic killing of Breonna Taylor. So I'm very hopeful that a lot of the anger that we have been seeing in Kentucky over the last several weeks will reality is we can't keep saying, hey, we need folks to fight for us. We also don't have folks who are supporting and that you're absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Taking people to court, taking these states because we are about to be into the battle for our lives. Donald Trump and Republicans, they want to they want massive voter suppression. They are recruiting 50,000 people to be at these polls, Christian, in order to dissuade folks from voting come November. They're fighting left tooth and nail when it comes to mail in balloting. They are. It's real clear what they are doing. And we have been to be fully prepared for the onslaught that is coming, because it is coming. That's right. True the Vote, Judicial Watch,
Starting point is 01:34:11 they're all of these well-funded, nefarious groups that have one goal, one goal, and that's to lock out people from the ballot box, African Americans, people of color, poor people. And we're in the court fighting back. We're not letting them get ahead of us. We just defeated True the Vote in an effort to deny people access to absentee ballots in Virginia. And we're going to stay on top of them and keep fighting. This is one of the most consequential elections of our lifetime. Voter suppression, though, alive and well, will be met with the brute force of civil rights lawyers that are determined to use the courts to make sure that
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Starting point is 01:35:29 We come back. A noose found in the garage of NASCAR's only black driver, Bubba Wallace. And wait until you see the show of solidarity today by the other drivers at the Talladega race. That's coming up next on Roller Martin Unfiltered. You want to support Roller Martin Unfiltered. You want to support Roland Martin Unfiltered? Be sure to join our Bring the Funk fan club.
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Starting point is 01:36:03 contributing 50 bucks each for the whole year. You can make this possible. RolandMartinUnfiltered.com. Federal authorities descended on Talladega Super Speedway today to investigate the discovery of a noose in the garage stall of Bubba Wallace. The entire industry rallied around the Cup Series' only black driver. It was Wallace who successfully pushed NASCAR to ban the Confederate flag at its venues
Starting point is 01:36:29 less than two weeks ago. In a show of support, Wallace steered the number 43 to the front pit row, NASCAR's champion Kyle Busch pushing the famous car on one side and close friend Ryan Blaney pushing on the other. The entire 40-driver field and all the crew members followed. Guys, roll the video, please. NASCAR issued a statement saying, the presence of the Confederate flag at NASCAR events runs contrary to our commitment to providing a welcoming and inclusive environment to all fans our competitors
Starting point is 01:37:28 and our industry bringing people together around a love for racing and the community that it creates is what makes our fans and sports special the display of the confederate flag will be prohibited from all nascar events and properties um uh mustafa what did Mustafa, what did happen, though, that there were fans who were outside of the track area that were selling Confederate flags, angry with NASCAR's decision, meaning they'll stop actually going to the races.
Starting point is 01:37:56 But this news, here's the deal. I've actually attended, I've covered NASCAR races. That area, the garage area, that's a secure area. Okay, it's not easy to get into there. The FBI is now investigating, and I'm sure there are cameras all over the place.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Look, somebody placing a noose in his garage stall, that's serious. Yeah, and it could be considered a hate crime. You know, systemic racism has always tried to silence the voice of black folks and white allies. And, you know, I talked about that earlier today. And this is just another example. When men and women of good conscience stand up, you know, there are always going to be consequences. There are going to be those folks who are going to want to push back against that. So it was great to see, you know, all those different folks coming together.
Starting point is 01:38:47 It's great to also see NASCAR doing the right thing and standing up and saying, you know, you know, these old symbols of hate, of slavery, of trauma. They have no place in 21st century America. Let's let's go to Avis. Avis, again, what you're're dealing with you're dealing with systems and look nascar let's be real clear i mean i get the change but nascar encourage the confederate flag it encouraged this is this was a southern sport that's their core base and they encourage this for all these years it's not going to change years, it's not going to change overnight. No, it's not going to change overnight. And, you know, this particular event where, which was,
Starting point is 01:39:36 I would say, the threat. It was a threat against his life. I believe it was meant to intimidate. And his safety was compromised if somebody was able to get into that private area. People will fight to maintain these symbols of racism. Racists will fight to maintain symbols of racism. But I certainly feel hopeful and happy to see that level of solidarity that we're seeing on the screen right now. And to tell you the truth, I was shocked when NASCAR went ahead and made that decision as quickly as it did. But as you mentioned, one might have expected that there were going to be an element that was going to fight back. And that's what we saw today. But it's not going to be the end of the story. I
Starting point is 01:40:21 think that those who are on the right side of history will ultimately prevail. Eugene, again, when you see those drivers, when you see all those drivers park their cars and their crew teams move that number 43 all the way to the front, I mean, that was obviously a show of unity. But the reality is that doesn't change how people feel. NASCAR has to do a hell of a lot more when it comes to reaching out to their Southern Corps base,
Starting point is 01:40:56 people who love the Confederate flag and, frankly, who have no problem celebrating those white domestic terrorists. Look, look, the thing is this, right? NASCAR is two weeks into this game. Decades of celebrating the Confederate flag, of welcoming racists, of being a safe space for those things. They're two weeks into the, essentially, actually the realization that all lives matter because now they actually understand
Starting point is 01:41:24 that Black lives matter, now they actually understand that black lives matter right um and thing is this they're they're on paper attempting cultural change but they actually have a lot of they have a lot of work to do to actually shift the change of culture of their fans of their supporters um of their of of of their of the crew workers. Because I agree with you. I mean, the NASCAR stalls, the garage bays and stalls, are more secure than probably most of your NFL, NBA locker rooms. Just because of all the equipment, you know, the sensitivity of it, you know, the lives that are at risk for cars and tamper with or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:42:02 But, you know, also to Avis' point, I can also see why NASCAR moved really, really quickly. You know, one of the things I've understood is that NASCAR is probably the one sport that has the most sponsors. And if just a couple of those sponsors get ready to pull their dollars
Starting point is 01:42:19 in a situation like this, NASCAR could collapse. Oh, that's what it boils down to. Money talks. Simple as that. This is the statement that NASCAR put out regarding the noose. Late Sunday afternoon, NASCAR was made aware that a noose was found in the garage stall of the 43 team. We are angry and outraged and cannot state strongly enough how seriously we take this heinous act.
Starting point is 01:42:40 We have launched an immediate investigation and will do everything we can to identify the person, persons responsible and eliminate them from the sport. As we have stated unequivocally, there is no place for racism in NASCAR and this act only strengthens our resolve to make the sport open and welcoming to all. The issue with that statement is that two and a half weeks ago, there was a place for racism in NASCAR. And so, you know, while it's great that in this moment that they're taking an abrupt stance and that they're putting their foot down,
Starting point is 01:43:11 what's going to have to happen is they got to deal with the culture of their fans. And look, I'm one of the conversations that myself and some of my folk have been having. There probably needs to be a blackout at one of the upcoming NASCAR races and support Obama. There probably needs to be a couple thousand black folk that show up and say listen you know
Starting point is 01:43:27 we're not gonna take this shit um but you know nascar you know they're two and a half weeks into this but you know you can't put out a statement like that as if two and a half weeks ago you wouldn't have very well welcomed you know a bunch of trailers and a bunch of campsites you know tossing around a confederate flag or effigies of Barack Obama or, you know, Trump flag with a combo of the Confederate flag. So, you know, while the statement's cool and the show Unity is even
Starting point is 01:43:53 better, what's best is probably NASCAR actually doing the real work to change the culture of their fan, the culture of their sport, and the culture of the environment that they create. But you also have right now where you have athletes who can make a big difference. Tavion Land, he was a quarterback for Liberty University.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Jerry Falwell Sr. created that university. His son now runs it. This is what Tavion posted today on social media. Go to my iPad, please. My short time spent with the athletic department and most professors at Liberty University was much appreciated as it helped me improve my skills, gain new experiences, and meet a diverse group of friends.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Unfortunately, due to the racial insensitivity displayed by leadership at Liberty University, I have decided to enter my name into the transfer portal and no longer be a student athlete at Liberty University. I pray that I am able to be provided with an opportunity at a new school that respects my culture
Starting point is 01:44:57 and provides a comfortable environment. Bless it. Hashtag BLM Tavion. That is significant, Mustafa, because we see the players at Oklahoma State who went after Mike Gundy. We're seeing what happened to football players at Iowa State. The black players at Iowa State,
Starting point is 01:45:15 the strength and conditioning coach, has been fired. We're seeing this at other places where you had down at the University of Alabama, their gymnastics team. We're seeing this in other places. We are seeing these young athletes not afraid of losing scholarships, not afraid of head coaches. They are standing up to racism and bigotry, and this is huge.
Starting point is 01:45:40 If more of them do that, if more of them leave these schools, if more of them tell these Division I schools like Clemson, if you don't take these buildings down named after these racists like John Calhoun, we ain't coming. I'm telling you right now, them white folks at Clemson and Alabama and Auburn and Texas A&M and all these universities, they are going to do what they say because they cannot have big-time football without black ballplayers. Exactly, exactly. And that's how you change the system is by putting that leverage on them because they know that's going to affect the ticket sales
Starting point is 01:46:18 and that's going to affect the overall revenue. And it's big money, you know, for many of these colleges and universities. And, you know, it's good to see the work of, you know, all these incredible folks from our past, Muhammad Ali, from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, you know, from our brother Jim, you know, all that work that they did years and years ago. You know, now we've got all these young brothers and sisters who are standing up and say, if you're not going to respect our people, you don't respect our culture. Then, you know, we are willing to take it someplace else.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Let's talk about this here, folks. The Camden City School District in New Jersey will begin the process to rename Woodrow Wilson High School. Camden School Superintendent Katrina McComb says the decision came in light of the protests and outrage after the death of George Floyd. Now, many in the community raised their concerns about the school being named after someone who was one of the most violent racists ever to serve in the White House. That is significant. What we saw over the weekend, we saw folks bringing down various statues of Confederate leaders. You also see in New York the removal of a statue of Theodore Roosevelt, We saw folks bringing down various statues of Confederate leaders. You also see in New York the removal of a statue of Theodore Roosevelt,
Starting point is 01:47:34 where he was flanked by an American Indian on one side and an African on the other side. Many people have talked about his colonialism. You also have, that was a Ulysses Grant statue that came down. Now you've got white conservatives, Avis, who are complaining, saying, oh, you're gonna start bringing down these, or you're gonna start bringing down Jefferson, bringing down Washington as well. Oh, what's next? I'm gonna find out.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Matt Schlapp was like, oh, Jesus is next. And so, you know, is that gonna be happening next? And I'm going, and of course, I saw Bakaria Sellers. He said, no, Jesus is fine. He said, because he was a, he was a, he was a refugee from Palestine. Y'all would have put him in cages. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, that is so ridiculous. But here's the, here's the reality. You know, symbols matter. They display what a culture values. It's always been amazing to me. I've never really understood.
Starting point is 01:48:33 I've traveled in a lot of different countries, including Germany, and I've yet to see a nation on Earth that has deities to traitors. I've yet to see that anywhere else on earth, nowhere but here. And so what these symbols represent is not what their proponents claim they represent. It's not about their heritage. It's about hate. It's about the disturbing, the very bloody, the very ugly history of America that for some reason they want to maintain because they want to maintain a sense of control and subjugation at the same time. Right. And so these matter. Now, I'm hoping that, you know, we continue to move forward in replacing these deities with those that deserve lifting up. But at the same time, as we do this, that we continue to push forward with other sort of policy advances that we need to make sure that while this is an important part that we need to focus on,
Starting point is 01:49:41 it's certainly just one part that we need to focus on in order to create the broad scale systemic change that we need in order to create a more fair America. Speaking of that, eight correctional officers of color have filed discrimination charges against Ramsey County in Minneapolis. Ramsey County Jail is where Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer who killed George Floyd is being held.
Starting point is 01:50:01 The eight guards allegedly say that supervisors barred them from guarding and being on the same floor as Chauvin. They were replaced with white officers. Really? Really, Eugene? I mean, lots of words on this. I mean, this
Starting point is 01:50:18 is crazy. These gentlemen have not displayed the racism that came from Officer Chauvin. Their jobs should not be affected because he's a prisoner. You know, they should be allowed to continue to do their jobs. And I hope the county pays them out very handsomely for violating their rights as employees. You know, this just shows how deep systemic racism goes within law enforcement. Right.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Here you have an officer who was transferred outside of the county where he was arrested and probably should be held to a new county. And then the new county comes and says, hey, let's get all get rid of all the black CEOs that will be overseeing them. It's appalling. It's appalling, but it's what should be expected. And the thing is this. If they don't trust the black CEOs to watch over him because of what may happen, because of what he did, how do you think black people feel when he's out, when officers like him
Starting point is 01:51:25 are out in the street just running free? How about this one here? You want to talk about officers? Y'all remember the story where these three cops in New York said that they were poisoned at a Shake Shack? And then what did supervisors do in the union? Put a statement
Starting point is 01:51:41 out and sent cops there. Go to my iPad, please. And so they they blocked off they brought the crime scene tape out With this big old show Y'all guess what? cops lied Union lied They took the video nothing nefarious was done to the shakes. They were not poisoned Mustafa was done to the sheikhs. They were not poisoned. Mustafa,
Starting point is 01:52:06 no shot cops lying. Okay, all of a sudden now, I mean, all the people were saying boycott, shake shack. They're poisoning, they poisoned the blue. Well, in fact, this is today's New York Post. The three cops at the center of the
Starting point is 01:52:21 NYPD milkshake poisoning scandal never even got sick. You know what? It just gets so ridiculous sometimes. Folks knew that they hadn't been poisoned. There are no cases across the country of police officers being poisoned from various establishments. But what we can do is I can point folks to communities that have been poisoned, but you don't get the same amount of attention
Starting point is 01:52:50 when it's black and brown folks who are actually dealing with these types of injustices. So we really just gotta get our priorities straight. And folks understand if we've got a system, a law enforcement system that has had these problems for decades and decades, let's fix it. Let's stop acting like it doesn't exist. No one is trying to poison police. They are trying to fix a poison system.
Starting point is 01:53:17 First of all, speaking of police officers, one of the cops, of course, who was involved in the death of George Floyd, who's out on bail, actually was shopping this weekend. And there was a woman who ran to him. Let's just say she wasn't too happy to see him shopping. Press play. What's your name? Oh, yeah, that's me. It is you. So you're out of prison. Yes. And you're comfortably shopping in-cup foods as if you didn't do anything. I'm not. I wouldn't call it comfortably. I'd just say getting necessities or helping. I don't think you should have that right. I don't even think you should be out on bail.
Starting point is 01:53:55 I can understand. I mean, how does it feel? I'm sorry you feel that way. No, you're not sorry. Like, you're literally outside here comfortably as if you didn't kill that man. Did you think that people weren't going to recognize you? Honestly, did you? You don't have the right to be here.
Starting point is 01:54:13 You killed somebody in cold blood. You do not have the right to be here. No, we don't want you to get your stuff. We want you to be locked up. You're honestly in Kav, comfortably shopping out of prison. Like, do you feel any remorse for what you did? Do you? This is the officer who was let out of jail today for shooting George Floyd. All right. I'm sorry. Suffocating him. You're not going to be able to comfortably
Starting point is 01:54:46 go around Minnesota like this. I pulled up the picture. I knew one more minute. It's just like he was there when they were killing him. And it's just like this is crazy that you're here just thinking everything's okay. I mean, you don't want to apologize. You don't want to say anything like no, because this video is going to be on the internet. Yeah. He has the nerve to literally come outside thinking that we don't know what he looks like. How dare you? You're not going to be able to comfortably live in Minnesota after that or anywhere. And you will be going back to jail. Trust. Trust. Yeah, he bailed out. How'd you get the money?
Starting point is 01:55:39 How'd you get the money? And you're lucky that they don't have your address. You're lucky that they don't have your address. Hi. This is one of the police officers that was involved in killing George Floyd. He was out on bail today, and he's over here comfortably shopping in capoos as if. Um, Avis, is she right? Is she wrong? Is she, should she have shot that video and distributed it on the internet? I don't, you know, I can understand the frustration. You know, I'm sure that Mr. Floyd would like to be out getting his necessities too.
Starting point is 01:56:12 But he can't because he's dead. And his family will never see him again. So he doesn't have those choices. And, you know, I think she was angry. She was upset. You know, and he's fine. He going to go home tonight and eat those Oreos. Ain't nothing going to bother him.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Honestly, I can't muster up an ounce of sympathy for him. Eugene. Look, if we're going to push for a fair justice system, part of that fair justice system is that we all play by the same rules. You know, he was able to bond out i would like to find out how he came up with whatever required for the million dollar bond um yeah i think most of folk will have a hard time coming up with either the 10 or the value for a million dollar bond. But I think it was fine for her to shoot that video. I think at this point, you know, he's a public figure or was a public servant. So either way, you know, she's in the clear.
Starting point is 01:57:12 And look, it should be uncomfortable for him. You know, if he wanted comfortability, he should have, you know, protected a servant, that protect life part of that, of that protect and serve. So, you know, I'm 100% okay with it. Mustafa. $100,000 to be able to get out of jail. And I was sitting here thinking about the tens of thousands of black and brown men, probably more than that, hundreds of thousands
Starting point is 01:57:37 who haven't been able to raise the funds. So they had to sit in jail sometimes when they weren't even guilty. So, you know, when we think about it in that context, you know, it becomes even more egregious. All right, folks, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much, Mustafa, Avis, and Eugene for being on the panel today. Folks, don't forget, if you wanna join our Bring the Funk fan club,
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