#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 6.26 House pass DC Statehood bill, George Floyd Act; Trump tries to nix ACA; Repubs rail against #45
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the house passes dc statehood bill the first time in history.
We'll give you all of the details.
Yesterday, they passed the George Floyd Act.
Attorney Ben Crump will join us to discuss that.
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Martin. Folks, it was huge news last night after the House.
Democrats with three Republicans voting with them passed the George Floyd Act.
Of course, that is all about police reform.
That's what the act is focused on.
Of course, it was led by the Congressional Black Caucus.
Now, this took place after, of course,
after Democrats scuttled the bill in the United States Senate.
Now the question is, will the U.S. Senate take up this bill?
Will they try to work on it, go to a conference?
All of those things we'll see.
Yesterday, though, folks, there were some great speeches on the floor yesterday,
and this was one by Congresswoman Ilhan Omar of Minnesota.
Check this out. All right, let's we'll try to figure that out what's going on here. So
let's try that again, folks. We can get this audio here of Ilhan Omar. This is a really great speech as she laid
out in terms of why this bill is important. So let's see if we can try it now. Go ahead, guys.
All right, we're trying to get it to, let's see if we can get it going.
All right, so I'll play it in a second. Let me, first, let's go to my guest, Ben Crump, of course, attorney for the George Floyd.
Flaming is going to be joining us in just a moment.
This this bill is really important because what the Democrats want to do is they want to ensure that three things took place.
First of all, you had the outlawing of chokeholds, no knock warrants.
Then also you had, of course, getting rid of qualified immunity.
That is something that they did not want in the Senate bill. colds, no knock warrants. Then also you had, of course, getting rid of qualified immunity.
That is something that they did not want in the Senate bill. You had Tim Scott who made it perfectly clear that that was not going to be the case. Well, that's why you sort of had this back
and forth going on. So we're trying to sit here. And so we have just just slight issues here.
OK, so let me see if I can get this going now, folks.
And so just give me one second, pulling this up.
Here is Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts.
Go to her first.
Every black family that has been robbed of a child
on behalf of every family member
that has been forced to see their loved one lynched
on national television,
driving while black, jogging while black,
sleeping while black.
We have been criminalized
for the very way we show up in the world. Under the harsh gaze of far too many, my black body is seen as a threat, always considered armed.
Centuries of institutionalized oppression will not be undone overnight,
for racism in America is as structural as the marble pillars of this very institution.
With the power of the pen, we must legislate accountability,
dismantle these systems, and move in the direction of justice and healing. The Justice and Policing
Act is a critical step forward, and I applaud the leadership of the Congressional Black Caucus,
but our work is unfinished. There is a rallying cry in communities across the nation. Black Lives
Matter is a mandate from the people. It's time. Pay us what you owe us. Our black skin is not a
crime. It is the beautiful robe of nation builders. Pay us what you owe us. Our black skin is not a crime. It
is the beautiful robe of nation builders. Thank you. I yield.
That was Ayanna Pressley speaking right there. And so what I want to do right now is I want
to see if I can pull up the clip of Congresswoman Omar. Of course, she, of course, represents the particular district where
George Floyd actually was murdered by the police, gave a really powerful speech again on the floor.
And so that's what we want to be able to play for you in just a second. Let's see if I can go
ahead and get this. There's an issue with the video on her Twitter page. And so that's what
the problem is. And so we'll try to get that straight. Let's bring in my panel right now. I want to bring them
in to talk about this story, but also another big issue that is, of course, statehood in D.C.
Theresa Lundy, principal founder of TML Communications, Derek Hawley, president,
Reaching America, political analyst, and also Rob Richardson, host of Disruption Now podcast. Three Republicans join Democrats in voting for this, that particular bill, the George Floyd bill.
And the families, the families of victims, they endorsed that bill, the families of Tamir Rice and others.
What's interesting, Rob, is to watch Republicans want to make the whole focus, oh, Democrats are disrespecting Senator Tim Scott,
as opposed to representing the interests of the families who actually have folks killed by cops.
Yeah, I mean, they're trying to focus on the one, of course, African-American senator that they have,
and they put him in charge of it not to actually get it done, not because he's a black man,
but because they're attempting to, it seems like, block real reform.
Because I don't understand their argument.
You know, as Republicans, don't they believe in small government?
Don't they believe in accountability?
Isn't that what getting rid of qualified immunity will do?
So why is it that they believe in all these principles,
but when it applies to helping African-Americans and making
sure that police have some accountability, suddenly none of those principles applies.
Like no more small government. We need to have full protection and government needs to do whatever
it can. It can run over people's rights. I mean, I just don't, I want consistency. If you believe
in small government, show me small government, do it across the board. Otherwise you have no
principles and you should just move out the way. all right let's go to uh theresa theresa
uh theresa i think you're on mute need you to unmute yourself am i live now you're on sorry about that uh i agree with those sentiments in its entirety. I think there is another bigger issue where there when we're, an African-American male, and two, also
just bring across this George Floyd situation to the forefront.
I think there could have been more senators backing him on this, not in silence, but in
bold.
But it also speaks to the tone of the entire Senate and how their lack of unity on this issue really does also show how big their response is.
Because we look at other legislative pieces that they've backed, they've made sure that they were, you know, standing in attention with everybody else. But I think on this specific issue, they allowed Tim Scott to be out there alone.
And I just think it's just telling of what their agenda really is.
Well, here's the deal, Derek. OK, fine. They didn't agree with Sir Tim Scott.
But this whole play by Kevin McCarthy and others.
Oh, they didn't. They did this because they were they kept talking.
The black guy. I'm like, don't try to sit here and pimp this game.
Democrats simply said the bill had to have qualified immunity.
No chokeholds had to have no knock warrants.
Senator Tim Scott's bill did not address qualified immunity.
OK, they don't agree with that. That's not true.
That's not true.
That's not true.
His bill did address all three of those issues.
Did it get rid of it?
The difference in his bill in the Senate was they were offering an incentive.
Those three initiatives that you just mentioned, they were offering incentives for the police department.
If they went ahead and implemented these policies,
then they would be incentivized with more money from the federal government.
And this is not the first time that something like this has gone on,
because they did the same thing when they changed the drinking age,
the drinking age from 18 to 21.
They incentivized the states to move forward with money.
The same thing they did with the seatbelt law.
When they ordered everybody to wear the seatbelt,
they incentivized the states
to do that.
But here's the deal.
But Derek,
what you're saying is that
the Democratic bill
completely outlawed it.
The Senate bill incentivized it.
Well,
that's what I'm saying.
Just because they outlawed it, can I finish, please? Just because just because the outlaw does not mean the guys that they're going to that they're going to implement it.
Because right now, many of the police departments right now have outlawed the chokehold.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold up. Hold up again.
Again, if it becomes federal law to outlaw. Then you do it, you've now just broken federal law.
Second, the point about qualified immunity.
If one bill incentivizes you to,
and the other one completely outlaws it,
the Democrats are basically saying is,
we're not going to give y'all more money
to actually get rid of it.
That's a major point of difference.
It's not a major point of difference.
It is.
How is it not a major point of difference that when you have one side that's saying
we're going to work to give you more money if you don't do it?
Hold on, hold on.
One second. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Derek, finish your point,
then Rob. Derek, go.
Like I said, this is not the first time
that a major piece of legislation
has been put forth to this
country by incentivizing
states to move forward.
It's something as big as this right here
just because you outlaw it does not mean
that these states are going to abide by it.
Wait a minute, Derrick.
Derrick, wait a minute.
Derrick, hold up, Derek.
I'm trying to, hold up.
I'm trying to, I need you to clarify something.
I need you to clarify something.
So if they incentivized it, can't the state still ignore it?
If you still want to have the federal funding from it, what's the difference in you outlawing it and ignoring it?
Oh, my God.
Ron, go ahead. What's the difference between your outlaw and ignoring? Oh my God. Rob, go ahead.
What's the difference between your outlaw and ignoring?
So Derek, we have had a time
when we've done this with policing.
It was a 1994 crime bill and it's a disaster.
Incentivizing the policing does
not work. It has deadly results.
You need to outlaw. I mean, this is not a
look, this is not hard.
Outlaw chokeholds. Why is that difficult?
Outlaw the fact that
if you dare it, Derek, Derek, he lets you finish. Let him finish. Rob, go. If you go
and you and you're an officer and you act recklessly like that officer who killed George
Floyd and you somehow are allowed to get off criminally, you you should be sued. You should
lose your house. I don't care. You took away somebody's life. Why is anybody defending that? Why is that okay? There's no incentivizing out of that.
We need to stop people from murdering people and hold them responsible, period. End of sentence.
All right, Derek. Okay, Derek, go ahead.
I'm not defending it, and I don't think anybody is defending that type of behavior.
No one's defending that. At the same time, we're trying to figure out how we move forward to get this piece of legislation passed so that it can protect black people.
I want to I want to bring I want to bring in Ben Crump right now, attorney Ben Crump.
And Ben said again, Mark is on. OK, all right.
We were sorry I was texting Ben and he said he was going to be calling in. The thing that I need to deal with on this here, Teresa, that and I hear Derek on it.
But here's the deal. If you're the Democrats, why?
Why must I? Why should I accept less than that?
If the House bill outlaws chokeholds, outlaws no-knock warrants, and gets rid of qualified immunity, why do I have to accept Senator Simpkins' version?
That's the whole point.
The House can pass whatever the House wants to pass.
The Senate can pass whatever they want to pass.
Then they go to conference committee, and there they work it out.
We shouldn't accept, as a Democrat,
we shouldn't accept less than what we're due.
And it's interesting that we can't get it done
on the federal level,
but statewide here in Pennsylvania,
on Wednesday, we were able to,
and this is a Republican-ran Senate,
we're able to ban the use of chill codes
on an officer's effort to detain an individual.
And it will require every municipal police department to adopt the use of force policy,
publish that policy for the public, and train its officers to that standard.
And again, so we've been putting, you know, even locally, I think states are doing it,
is putting local reforms together and making sure that in the state that they're actually implemented because we're still having these issues federally that we just can't get it together.
So I think everybody is taking, you know, an intricate appeal on their own government locally.
And I think we unfortunately have to continue to do this because who knows
that this is going to be a federal mandate? Yeah, because you need to and like incentivation,
that's not going to work to incentivize. We need to change the culture of policing,
period. It has to change. And that only comes through accountability.
And you're not going to incentivize the FOP to change their culture. You're only going to do
that through accountability. When you can no longer get away with murdering somebody just because you're a police officer,
when you can no longer just say, I fear for my life despite the evidence, despite the circumstances,
when that's no longer the case, you will see a change. I may not be able to stop somebody from
lynching me and feeling that way about it, but I can make it illegal and make it harder,
just like Dr. Martin Luther King said. This needs to be harder. Right now, Derek, you said everybody agrees with this. No,
everybody doesn't, because they're allowing an environment where this can be in power,
where the culture, where it's acceptable. And incentivizing is not going to work.
And so I want to take the politics out of it. I don't care if they're Democrats or Republican.
I want these people to value my life. It's not a political issue to me. This is about humanity,
period. This is about humanity, period.
This is real simple for me, Derek.
I agree with you on that, but I also agree
with what Teresa said.
Teresa said earlier, just now, she just said
that in Pennsylvania, like Pennsylvania
and many states, they've already
outlawed the chokehold
in these different... But these guys,
these police departments, they haven't
implemented the policy. And I agree with Rob, what he said.
It's about our lives right now.
And both Democrats and Republicans need to put their D's and R's aside and get this done.
Well, again, it's real simple.
The House has passed their bill.
The Senate, all Mitch McConnell has to do is call that bill up for consideration.
Or you know what?
Go back to the drawing board with Senator Tim Scott and negotiate a new bill.
That's nothing that says you can't negotiate a new bill.
Simple as that.
So I mean, so all this all this drama from the Republicans is like, yo, this real.
Look, the Democrats passed a bill to fix the Voting Rights Act as the Supreme Court gutted it.
It's still sitting on Mitch McConnell's desk.
So all this, look, I don't want to hear it.
Bottom line is this here.
OK, you can they can whine and they complain.
They were they said this is about Senator Tim Scott.
He's a great man.
He's experienced these issues as well.
Fine.
Sit down and hammer out a damn bill. Like I said, but everybody who's watching me, I want to explain to y'all again
how the process works. The House passes their bill. The Senate can pass their own bill.
And then what they then do is they then sit down in a conference committee and they hash
out their differences. And if they come up with a new bill that they can agree on, then the House
votes again on the new bill. Then the Senate votes again on the new bill. And if it passes both,
it goes to the president for signature. That's the process. So all this whining yesterday,
why won't y'all debate in public?
Why wouldn't you debate in the Senate Judiciary Committee?
That's the point of having a committee.
See, that's why I'm just,
it was just frankly hilarious, Derek,
just watching all the histrionics
and all the pearl clutching.
And I'm like, give me a break.
Well, Roman, I don't understand why it has to be that the democrats what they put forth is
is so righteous and the right way to go no here's the deal you know hold on you disagree with what
do you disagree with getting rid of Derek you didn't hear what i said
no no Derek Derek Derek wait Derek you didn't hear what I said? Derek, you clearly didn't hear what I said.
What I said was the Democrats passed their bill.
The Senate.
No, no, the Republicans didn't pass their bill.
No, they did not.
No, the Senate did not pass theirs.
They did not.
And so what I'm saying.
No, they did not. And so what I'm saying, no, you did not. So what I'm saying is the Senate can now Tim Scott, Tim Scott can go back. No, they didn't. Tim Scott can
go back. He can sit down with Senator Harris. He can sit down with Senator Booker. He can
sit. And matter of fact, if I'm Senator Tim Scott, you know what I would say? I would say send it back to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Come up with a new bill and let's see if that one gets passed.
But I'm saying all the histrionics yesterday were just laughable as I watched these folks just go on and on and on.
Do we have Ben Crump?
OK, sorry. So we don't have Ben Crump yet.
I do want to get him on and talk about this here. I'll say something very quickly on this.
Rob, go ahead. If you don't have qualified immunity, I don't think you have much of a bill. I don't understand. So I think Democrats need to make Republicans explain why is it okay for officers to have no accountability when they do things like kill people when they don't have any right to.
Why are you defending that?
Make them defend that.
Because there has to be some substance to what we pass.
We don't want to pass something just to look like we're appeasing people.
We need to pass something to change things structurally, period.
Otherwise, we're wasting our time.
And here's the other deal.
Let's be real honest.
Politics is politics. If you're the Democrats, you're watching a situation where you may very
well take over the Senate after November. Guess what? You can wait to get a better bill.
Happens all the time. Ben Crump joins us right now. Ben Crump, of course,
civil rights attorney, represents the family of George Floyd.
Ben, you have been talking to people on both sides.
You've looked at this from your perspective.
Which is a stronger bill, the Democrat version in the House or what Senator Tim Scott proposed in the Senate?
It's not even close, Roland. The bill presented by the House of Representatives is much stronger.
It gives us the systematic reform in the culture and the behavior of policing in America that
we have been asking for for decades, Roland.
Even before Trayvon Martin, we've been working on these type cases saying
what we need is accountability from the police department. And that happens with the House
of Representatives. It does not happen with this Republican bill from the Senate.
And so, look, Dems passed their bill. Now the Senate doesn't have that. They could take it up. They may not. As Mitch McConnell, first of all, has as majority McConnell talked to any of these family members?
Has he gotten their perspective in terms of moving forward?
Not that I'm aware of at all. I know they have not talked to George Floyd's family.
They haven't talked to Breonna Taylor's family. And, Roland, I believe that their bill actually supports the police funding
more than it does anything about trying to bring accountability to these situations.
And that's the problem. The Republicans are still not going to the crux of the
matter, which is accountability for those people who keep killing us unnecessarily,
unjustifiably, and senselessly. Well, and that really was a problem for me where I'm sorry. I don't think everything always has to be, oh, get a cop more money to do what's right.
No, damn it. Do what's right.
I should have to incentivize a cop not to kill people with chokeholds.
With chokeholds.
Exactly, Roland.
And they don't even ban the chokeholds when you look at the Republican,
you know, proposal. They just try to encourage or decenterize people not to do chokeholds.
And since George Floyd case, Roland, our law firm has been retained by three families
who our loved ones have died for being restrained by police officers in chokeholds
for longer than George Floyd's eight minutes and 46 seconds, being Joel, Oscar Beto in Milwaukee,
Wisconsin, Derek Scott in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. And now this brother Lopez, who is in Tucson, Arizona, who was for 11 minutes being strangled by the police.
And he asked for a cup of water three times. Roland, the Republican bill would do nothing to address those issues.
All right. Ben Crump, we certainly appreciate it, man. Thank you so very much.
I appreciate you, Roland. All right, folks, next I'll talk about D.C. statehood. Today,
for the first time ever, the U.S. House passed a bill to make Washington, D.C. the 51st state.
Folks, 700,000 people in the District of Columbia pay taxes, but have no representation
in Congress.
This was the debate on the floor today.
Then have the treatment that this body gives to those that live in the territories.
I believe it's the greatest scam and an okey-doke that you have allowed us not to pay taxes
and hold that against us to ask for our equal treatment.
So keep paying those taxes, and you will get your statehood one day.
The United States territories that I represent is also not on equal footing with the rest
of the nation.
There is no representation in the U.S. Senate, no equal voting representation in the House
of Representatives.
Unlike D.C., we cannot vote for president.
We know what it's like to be part of the greatest country in the world, but not a full participant.
And it feels incomplete.
As Americans, we strive to be productive citizens and an asset to the nation.
Statehood for D.C. is a matter of fairness that has been slow in coming. This city, built by African Americans with use of forced labor, contributes more in federal taxes per person basis than many states,
a punishment to Americans living in the Capitol, including those working in policy or public
service for the good of the nation, to be disenfranchised when they establish a home
in the district. This body changed the boundaries in the 1800s to ensure that slave owners could keep their slaves.
We have changed the boundaries in the committee to allow for the federal city to still exist
and the residents of D.C. to become a state. It's been done by this body before. Don't make
it seem like it's something that can't happen again. At this very moment, citizens across this nation are clamoring for change,
equality, and justice. With one vote, we can deliver that for the people of D.C.
It is time to do what's right and allow the people of this city to feel whole, to feel complete,
to feel like they matter. Support H.R. 51. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to thank the distinguished delegate congressperson from Washington, D.C. for her
steadfast leadership on this.
I had the opportunity to work with her predecessor back in the late 1980s in this chamber, Delegate
Walter Fauntroy, who passed the torch.
And Delegate, you have just done a great job.
It took 27 years to get this vote
back onto the floor and I was there in 1993 when we came up short and today I'm
hoping and praying that this bill passes. I want to congratulate you on that and
to remind others that this is not going to go away because at the end of the day
this is really about taxation without representation.
One of the original 27 colonial grievances filed against the king, which was a major
cause of the Revolutionary War. And so when people in Boston had the Tea Party and threw
tea in the Boston Harbor in December of 1773,
they were making a statement and setting an example for people across this nation
to understand that we just can't tax people without allowing them to be represented.
And you've heard the great discussions, the cogent points about the fiscal side of this,
that D.C. residents pay more tax more taxes per capita than any other state,
that they pay more general taxes than 22 states, that they have a budget here larger than 11 states
and a bond rating better than almost 30 other states.
But I've heard this discussion when it comes to fiscal matters about the constitutional federation of states,
the great words of Hamilton and the Federalists and the Federalist Papers.
I understand that.
But one thing we have to remember when we raise Hamilton and we talk about the Federalists
is that their stated belief was the Constitution was meant to evolve,
that it was a living document.
That's not my impression.
That's the impression, the opinion of the Federalists.
And so if that were not true, I could not be here as a descendant of a slave without
the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendment.
Gentleman's time has expired.
The distinguished woman couldn't be here.
She had not the right to vote under the Federalist paper.
Gentleman's time has expired, please.
And Alaska and Hawaii, when I was born, were not...
Gentlemen, time has expired.
I realize that, sir.
I want to give all acknowledgment to the outstanding gentlelady, Eleanor Holmes Norton.
President Washington said, the Constitution is the guide which I will never abandon.
Nothing in the Constitution says that we cannot make
the Washington state the Douglas Commonwealth.
Frederick Douglass said, there is no power without struggle.
The sons and daughters of Washington, DC
laid down their life for this country in world wars.
They stand for this country in service to this government.
Why are we denying them their right?
Alaska has 700,000
plus people. There is no population requirement.
Gentlewoman's time has expired. Washington, DC, a state now.
Now the measure passed in the US House. Now it will go to the Senate. Now Majority Leader
Mitch McConnell has already said he wanted to bring it to the Senate to floor vote. Yet. There was discussion on the Senate floor vote about D.C. getting statehood.
And if y'all want to hear one of the most absolute racist, bigoted, discriminatory speeches ever.
Listen to this ass Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas who argues that
Wyoming, that Wyoming has a much more broad cultural interest to be a state
than Washington DC. The same Wyoming that has 200,000 fewer people
than Washington, D.C.
The same Wyoming that is 93% white.
He complains that, oh, D.C.,
they will guarantee two Democratic senators.
Well, how many Republicans are senators in Wyoming
to listen to this racist talk?
Most of Washington was under the control not of the federal government, but of a left-wing politician like Muriel Bowser, who frequently takes the side of rioters against law enforcement.
Would you trust Mayor Bowser to keep Washington safe if she were given the powers of a governor? Would you trust Marion Barry? More important, should
we risk the safety of our Capitol on such a gamble? Now of course the
Democrats will argue that the statehood bill doesn't entirely eliminate federal
control of Washington because it preserves a small federal district
that encompasses the White House, the Capitol, the Supreme Court,
the Library of Congress, the National Mall,
and a few other government buildings.
What a humbling demotion from the grand federal city
that President Washington and Pierre L'Enfant envisioned
more than 200 years ago,
which they hoped would rival Paris in size and ambition.
By contrast, look at this ridiculous map.
Look at it.
The Democrats proposed to turn Washington into little more than a gerrymandered government
theme park, surrounded on all sides by a new state,
controlled, of course, by the Democrats.
The federal government's safety and independence cannot be assured by such a laughable district.
Again, look at it. It's got 90 sides. A mere city block less than 200 yards separates the White House from the proposed boundaries
of a new state, governed at present by a politician who hates the president.
The Supreme Court and several congressional office buildings are right at the edge of the map, separated from the new democratic state by the width of a single city street.
In the event of an emergency like the Philadelphia Mutiny of 1783, those narrow boundaries could
jeopardize the operations of the federal government.
Consider also what's not included in this ridiculous new map of a new Washington, D.C.
The headquarters of the Department of Homeland Security would be outside the federal government's control, as would be the headquarters of the FBI and the FCC, which governs all communications.
Now, y'all see a little racist little rant there.
Ooh, Muriel Bowser.
And what if Marion Barry was the governor?
He does know that you've had governors that have gone to prison in states.
Rob Lagoevich in Illinois, prison.
Governor Ryan, prison.
Governor Edwards in Louisiana, prison.
In West Virginia, they impeached the entire state Supreme Court.
So you see the nonsense that I'm going to go to you, Derek, first, because you're Republican. That was absolute racist by Tom Cotton.
Well, I would say.
Black people, black people, we can't trust these black people to govern.
Okay.
Oh, no.
Go ahead.
I did not like the comment about my man, Mary Berry.
Okay.
Because he is the people's mayor, always has been.
He's done a lot for people in D.C., including
giving jobs to my wife and a bunch
of other friends. But the thing about it is, man,
you know, if you look at what they've been
talking about with D.C. statehood, it's been an issue forever,
okay? And according to a
Gallup poll in 2019,
last year, two-thirds of Americans
said no to D.C. being
a state. And the bigger issue
is, you know, D.C. has 700,000 people.
Puerto Rico has 3 million people.
Where's the outrage for Puerto Rico
being a state? And I think it becomes
more of a political issue right now.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
I think it becomes more of a political issue right now.
Wait a minute. Hold on.
I'm going to let you finish, but
I want to put a pin in it,
and I want that Puerto Rico point.
Yeah, what about it?
How did Puerto Rico become a territory?
I don't know.
You tell me.
You must have an answer.
Oh, I got an answer.
Mark Thompson joins us.
Mark or Rob or Teresa, one of y'all.
What's happening to Mark Thompson. Here's why I'm saying this, because Washington, D.C.
is actually within the United States.
Puerto Rico actually was a prize that we captured.
Mark Thompson, you've gotten arrested a whole lot for statehood.
You heard what Derek just said.
I'm going to let Derek finish.
But the Puerto Rico point, Mark, explain why that's an illogical point.
Which part do I get to finish?
No, no, no, no.
I want Mark to speak on how the Puerto Rico point is illogical.
That'll come back to you to finish.
Mark, go ahead.
I want to be sure what he's saying.
Is he saying that Puerto Rico is more deserving?
Well, he's saying that three million in Puerto Rico and just 700,000 in D.C., but it's only 500,000 in Wyoming.
I'm trying to get you to chase around what I said.
Mark, go ahead.
That's not what I said.
So here's the thing. And thank you, Roland. And thank you for showing all those clips.
Here's the thing about Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a right to its own
self-determination. And I know at one time, Puerto Ricans voted, they had a choice between
independence and statehood. And I think there was a slight majority in favor of independence
in terms of being their own country.
So, you know, I don't think we should make that decision on behalf of Puerto Rico.
People in Puerto Rico want to be an independent nation.
They want to be a state. That's up to them.
As far as D.C. statehood is concerned,
this is the Washington, D.C. is the only national capital in the world.
And we're talking about countries the United States holds responsible for human rights violations and lack of democracy.
Even those nations, their national capitals have representation in their national legislature or parliament.
It's only D.C. that doesn't.
It has always been because of racism.
And just to be fair, in 1993, we organized the original Tea Party, this Tea Party, Republican
Tea Party that came in under Obama.
That's a whole other thing.
We dumped tea on the Capitol steps every Thursday and committed civil disobedience every Thursday for months throughout the summer of 93 to get the first ever vote for D.C. statehood in 1993.
The Speaker of the House at that time was Tom Foley.
Fifty-eight Democrats voted no. And I'm sure that the Democratic Party has to look back on that history and
realize what a mistake that was. Because if D.C. had been admitted into the union in 1993,
think about how many things that have happened in the past 27 years that would have been prevented with two more Democrats in the Senate with the 51st state.
Speaker Pelosi said something very interesting on yesterday, and I'd actually forgotten this.
Her father, before there was even a mayor, her father as a a member of Congress, was the chair of the district committee, which, as you know, Roland, oversaw everything in the District of Columbia for decades.
In fact, her father was his nickname was the mayor of D.C.
And he ultimately was the mayor of Baltimore, too.
But he oversaw the budget.
Congress controlled Washington, D.C. So what Tom Cotton is talking about is
absurd. Congress will have control over what is known as the federal enclave or the National
Capital Service area, where residents do not live. But the rest of that would be named after
Frederick Douglass. And finally, there would be no taxation without representation,
ending that colonial relationship, more people have gone to war and given their lives in
the U.S. military than many states per capita in Washington, D.C., and there are more taxes
paid per capita than many other states.
So it's absurd. It's a miscarriage of justice. And lastly, just let me say that we've got to talk about justice in the fullest sense.
So there's justice in policing.
Some folk want to do Juneteenth, and that's fine,
even though a lot of folk never heard about Juneteenth until last week.
But reparations and D.C. statehood have to be a part of that conversation.
And we've got to stop being afraid to bring it up.
We have to stop just pushing issues that we think are acceptable and palatable to folks in white media only.
All right. Derek, go ahead.
No,
great points, but I would just ask, what about
the size and
how the district would have to be reshaped
in terms of national security
and that kind of thing
and protecting it, and then how would
it be possible to have federal
agencies like the FBI, FCC and Homeland Security,
which he did point out, you know, outside of district lines.
I mean, I'm just in some, and Mark,
maybe you can even speak to this,
some say that Homeland Security was actually put out of those district lines
for this purpose, but I'm just trying to figure out how does it work?
Let me, let me, Rob, Rob, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on, Rob. Here's what I don't understand.
There's an FBI office
in Houston.
There are federal
agencies located
in, let me
say it again. Hold on.
There are federal agencies
located in every
major city in America.
Ain't nobody trying to figure out how do they operate?
Hold on.
Hold on.
Derek, Derek, Derek, you can't ask for everybody else to stop talking when you're talking if
you talk when everybody else is talking.
Rob, go.
This is real simple, Derek.
Roland's already explained it, but in any place, anywhere, we have federal buildings,
and the federal government still has control.
That is made up.
They're just trying to use ways to scare people.
You know that.
That has nothing to do with anything.
So no control would change making Washington, D.C., a state.
Let me just say that it's real interesting listening to Tom Cotton, though,
and hear him talk about the things that he was mentioning there.
You can always know, particularly what my friends on the other side talk about, gerrymandering.
Do you even talk about gerrymandering?
Gerrymandering is a concept for at least since the 1980s Republicans have mastered,
and they've been doing it for a long time. I'm going to give you one example if you want one, Derek.
Paul Weigrich, you can look him up.
He's the founder of the conservative movement.
One second.
Let Rob finish.
Wait.
He is the founder of the whole conservative party movement recently in the last 30 or 40 years.
He didn't want everybody to vote.
It is on tape.
Rowling can find it.
He said, I want to make sure because democracies aren't won by those who participate.
It's not won by the majority of people, but those that are able to participate.
So the strategy of what they're doing, what they're doing in Kentucky, what they're doing now, what they've been doing for years is figuring out ways to disempower citizens.
And so I think that's anti-democratic. And the fact that that a party would make that part of their objective just shows you that they don't believe in the people. They just want to preserve their power. And so I don't understand the
argument of why a whole state that pays that much in taxes shouldn't have a right to be that
territory. It shouldn't have a right to be a state. And if Puerto Rico wants to, let them join.
I'm not against democracy. If they want to come in, let them come in. These are all distractions.
They just don't want to give the power to the people and they should have the power, period. I believe in
democracy. I believe in people. I don't know why Republicans don't sometimes. I want to pull in
Teresa right here. Teresa, the reason I find Tom Cotton's comments to be absolutely hilarious.
How many Republicans, how many states right now have two Republicans?
Multiple.
So it's like, oh, my God, there will be two Democratic senators from a Washington, D.C. state.
There are two Republicans.
He kept going back to Wyoming and how he said how Wyoming has much more work, much more working class.
I love I love the language. It's 93 percent white.
That's what Tom Cotton really saying. Wyoming is white. D.C. will be black. So part of that is the other piece that I heard was that Mayor Bowser doesn't like the president.
Right. And so right there for me, it was kind of like, OK, all right.
Thank you for your talking points. I love that this whole thing is scripted.
But as we kind of talk about what the territory and who is going to pretty much going to be running those areas, I'm in agreement with you, Roland. I do believe that this is another ploy on the Republican Party to say that African-Americans, you know, cannot govern, you know, in its totality.
This such of a large state, if there was one.
Look what they've done so far.
You know, they put Black Lives Matter, spreading yellow on the streets.
And what else would they do?
You know, in so many words.
So I think, you know, if I'm in agreement and Puerto Rico wants to become a state, great.
I'm sure there'll be people behind it.
But it seems like, you know, with their 3 million
people that they have, they are very comfortable with, again, this is just seeing it because there
hasn't been anything that's been put up, but they seem like they're very comfortable with receiving
some of the benefits of being a part of the U.S. So if D.C. has been pushing this for 27 years,
it is fine time that, yes, they become a state
and they get the representation they need
because there could be more things that could happen
that'll be in their benefit.
And I think it just needs to be a little bit more viewed
as it relates to some of the practices and policies that are happening in a larger scope with
other, not only just, you know, the seasoned elected officials, but maybe some of the new
generation to start taking a look at some of those policies to see what can be done.
Now, here's where I find me real funny, y'all. Here's the deal.
And I just count it.
There are 18 states in the union right now with two Democratic senators.
Derek, there are 22 states with two Republican senators.
Y'all, I'm going to go through it.
Go to my iPad.
You'll see it right here.
Alaska, two Republicans.
You see the two red lines.
You go Arkansas, two Republicans.
You go Florida, two Republicans.
Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana.
Then we go Mississippi, Missouri.
Then I go to Nebraska. Let me go down to North Carolina, North Dakota.
Let's go to Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas.
Hmm. Let me go right on down to West. Let me go down to and Wyoming.
So I don't want to hear that bullshit from Tom Cotton.
Oh, they're going to be two Democratic senators when right now of the 40 out of the 40 of the 50 states,
only 10 have split
delegations. Sit the hell down.
Look, I live outside
of the district right here now.
I go back to the issue that I was trying
to, the one point I was trying to say before.
They can't even protect the borders now.
Now you're talking about making it, how many,
96 different borders, 96 different sides?
And the other thing is, like, I'll go back to this too.
Two-thirds of Americans already said
in the Gallup poll that they were against it.
Stop. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up.
Hold up. Derek. Derek.
Who gives a damn what the other Americans have to say
who aren't paying taxes?
Those two-thirds other Americans
have representation.
Well, it might happen, though.
No, no, Derek.
Those other Americans have representation.
So it's real easy when you have
a member of Congress who gets to vote.
It's real easy when you have two U.S. senators
to say, oh, no, no, no, no.
You shouldn't have it.
Again, there are 700,000 citizens in the District of Columbia, 200,000 more than Wyoming.
So why in the hell—wait, wait, wait, wait, let me finish.
Why in the hell should Wyoming get two U.S. senators as a member of Congress, but D.C.
can't?
And Idaho and lots of other states member of Congress, but D.C. can't.
And Idaho and lots of other states you can name, but go ahead.
I was just going to ask, won't it have to go through having an amendment for this to happen?
Doesn't it have to go, doesn't it have to have a constitutional amendment for this to happen?
Mark Thompson, go right ahead.
It's already, it already went to the Supreme Court a few years ago,
probably about 15 years ago. And the ruling is that this is a political matter. It is not a judicial matter. You don't need a constitutional amendment or anything. That's already been
reviewed. So all of that is just stuff to hold this up. This is any state can
be admitted into the union via a simple majority of the legislature. And to your point about
the agencies and the different government buildings, as Roland said, there are federal
agencies in every single state in the union. And it has no impact on the running of
that state. As a matter of fact, and this was one of the problems in D.C., when a federal agency
takes up land in a state, the federal government makes a federal payment to that state to offset the loss of taxes
and property for their presence.
And so for 200 years, D.C. was not getting even a fair federal payment for the federal
presence as other states were.
And so this will also correct that injustice.
So no, all of those arguments are ridiculous. The real resistance to this, and you heard him
mention Marion Barry. Congress never wanted black power in D.C. Right. This is bipartisan. I want
to say this point. We got to say this because two Two black senators, let me finish. Wait, wait, Mark, go ahead.
Two black senators, the fear of both of those senators being Democratic, and who knows what
might happen in the future.
But even the argument, really, this is 2020, I'm surprised that we're having a conversation
about safety and security.
That was one of the silly arguments that the founders had and why they moved to DC in the
first place from Philadelphia, New York, because they didn't want to be besieged by other states.
That's over and done with. That's that's a 200 year old argument as well.
This is 2020. Got it. All right. Final comment. Final comment.
Quick on this. You know, Republicans play chess and Democrats play checkers.
Democrats should have done this when they had
the votes. If this is the first
time we've done this, okay, this is all great when you
can't get it passed, but if we ever
get the votes, and we will at some point, I want to
see this come up and actually have the courage
of our convictions and then pass these things when
you have the power.
Got it. Mark Thompson,
make it plain. I appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot.
Thank you, man. Thanks for having me. God bless you all.
All right, folks. Today, for the first time in two months, Dr. Fauci reappears as well.
Dr. Birx talking about coronavirus. Why? Because we're seeing a spike in the country.
This is Dr. Fauci today speaking before the cameras.
Such an unusual situation because of all of the decades that I've been involved in chasing
infectious diseases. I've never seen anything that is so protean in its ability to make
people sick or not. There's no other infectious disease that goes from 40% of the people having
no symptoms to some having mild symptoms to some having severe, some requiring staying
at home for weeks, some going
to the hospital, some getting intensive care, some getting intubated, some getting ventilated,
and some dying. So that depending on where you are in that spectrum, you have a different attitude
to this particular thing. But anyone who gets infected or is at risk of getting infected to a greater or
lesser degree is part of the dynamic process of the outbreak and I know
because I can understand when I was at a stage in my life when I said well I'm
invulnerable so I'm gonna take a risk I think what we're missing in this is
something that we've never faced before is that a risk for you is not just isolated to you.
Because if you get infected, you are part, innocently or inadvertently, of propagating
the dynamic process of a pandemic.
Because the chances are that if you get infected, that you're going to infect someone else.
And although you may feel well, and because we know if you look at infected, that you're going to infect someone else. And although you may feel
well, and because we know if you look at the numbers that you'll probably hear later on,
the overwhelming majority now of people getting infected are young people,
likely the people that you see in the clips and in the paper who are out in crowds enjoying
themselves, understandably, no blame there, understandably. But the thing that you
really need to realize that when you do that, you are part of a process. So if you get infected,
you will infect someone else who clearly will infect someone else. We know that happens
because the reproduction element of the virus is not less than one. So people are infecting
other people. And then ultimately, you will infect someone who's vulnerable.
Now, that may be somebody's grandmother, grandfather, uncle, who's on chemotherapy,
aunt who's on radiation or chemotherapy, or a child who has leukemia.
The Department of Justice is actually arguing that the Affordable Care Act should be struck down before the Supreme Court.
Yeah, filed it late yesterday.
Now, again, here we are right now in the United States.
2,374,282 cases of COVID-19.
37,667 new cases.
Y'all, 692 new deaths
really
really
now we get rid of the Affordable Care Act
Dr. Georges Benjamin
Executive Director of the American Public Health Association
Doc first of all
what the hell was Mike Pence
talking about
everything is reopening.
The governor of Texas, my native state,
literally said shut all bars down,
reduce capacity of restaurants,
and said y'all stay at home if you have to.
Yeah, he was spinning nonsense.
You've got a very bad epidemic
running through the South.
And as you know, they're just pretending like it's not going on.
It's the craziest thing I think I've ever seen.
Well, and again, what you have is Mike Pence and Donald Trump are in denial
because they don't, they are scared to death of losing.
And so they're held bent on reopening the country.
But you see what happened in Texas.
They did it prematurely. The governor ignored the mayors, ignored the county judges.
And now all of a sudden, after opening it, you've got to shut it down because cases are spiking.
Hospital beds are filling up. You know, the challenge is, I think that there were many of the public health experts told them this would happen.
You delay the preventive measures that we had, and then you rapidly open up too soon.
This is what happens when you do that.
You know, you open up the bars, and then now you've got to close them back down again.
They closed them abruptly today because, you know, people were conjugating in those bars.
And then they're surprised that lots of young people are getting infected.
Right.
As you said, on top of that, then they want to take the health insurance coverage away for the people that need it in America.
And by the way, all of us will be impacted for it.
A lot of people don't really understand that every person in America is impacted by the Affordable Care Act if we lose it. I mean, it's amazing how callous these people are.
And really, they refuse to listen to doctors.
And they're hell-bent on the stock market.
It's just, we don't care.
Open stuff up.
And what I keep saying, people are actually dying from this.
And now, if you talk about half of the new cases are young folks,
let their lungs all of a sudden start exploding and then see what happens.
Well, you know, the loss of the Affordable Care Act means that you can no longer carry your child on to age 26 on your policy.
So young people will lose their insurance coverage as well.
You know, it's a it's a terrible thing to do. And look, the really fascinating thing for me is the fact that the state of Texas is one of the lead litigants to try to get rid of the Affordable Care Act.
And the governor of Texas is now saying, whoa, wait a minute, maybe we need the Affordable Care Act, as well as many Republican members of Congress who were actively against the Affordable Care Act are now sending letters saying, well, maybe we ought to not get rid of it.
Yeah, that's what happens when you stuck on stupid.
Simple as that. Dr. George's Benjamin, executive director, American Public Health Association.
We appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot.
Thank you very much.
Rob, these people have no damn sense whatsoever. I mean, they're really idiotic. Yeah, they really are. And this,
the resurgence of the coronavirus was not only predictable, it was predicted. Like,
we follow data. I believe in science. They told you this was going to happen,
but everybody wanted to reopen the states because they were following the prophets.
They were following the idiot, the idioticy of the present occupant of the White House, just because he said it was a sham. We got to go along with this stupid stuff. And then the, the only problem with that,
I would be okay with stupid, but other people are dying because of their stupidity.
And so us as people, we have to take our own government back right now because we have
idiots leading us. We have assholes leading us and it's causing real significant damage.
And none of this is funny anymore. So, uh, yes. So this is predictable. You'd have Texas talking about shutting down bars.
They shouldn't have opened them in the first place.
Now they're ironically causing more economic damage on the backend.
If they would have just done it right on the front end, follow the science,
follow the facts, get politics out of it and actually look out for people's
lives. But there's just too much to ask, I guess.
Teresa, Teresa, and not only that, you had the course, you had the hearing,
you had the news conference today and you got all, everybody else wearing a mask, pissed like, damn, I'm not wearing a mask.
And now you have a doctor saying, hey, could all y'all please wear your mask?
It's bad because when you have a highly skilled doctor and Dr. Fauci, where people believe them,
it's like you're just disobeying the doctor's
orders on purpose, right? And now you're passing it down to the citizens of the states. And so,
you know, I'm not surprised. I saw this three-month confinement for most, and it literally
was unbearable, right? So when the first protest happened and people were
just unleashing their masks and raising their voices, I said, we are going backwards. You know,
the numbers and the data that we were able to achieve are now going in the tanks. And then
what happened? Then we started to reopen, which began with the new phases, right? And so when the phases
happened, that's when the dining happened. And when you're doing outside dining, the masses are
off in its entirety, right? So it doesn't matter how close you are. Nobody was paying attention
to rules. No social distancing was happening. The protests, the looting, all these are factors that, again, all happened.
Everybody was responsible.
But, again, it really comes to our leadership.
So if our leadership is not doing what the doctor prescribed us to do in order to get out of this effectively, then we are at a loss.
And look, bottom line is, Derek, all the good that came actually out of the lockdown, they're about
to squander it.
Agreed. But I would say that
all of it don't go
back to the administration because
there were standards put in place
by the CDC that the states were
to follow, and that control in terms
of opening up the states was
by the governor's call. Because right
here in Maryland, it would open up until months after other places and so now i think it's going to be left up to the
states to handle at this point just like as you said your state your home state texas shut
everything down i think a lot of other states unfortunately want to shut things down too but
derrick i gotta put the blame on the federal government because like right now the federal
government's about to pull out of federal testing facilities in Texas while
the numbers are going up. That's stupid.
Rowan,
I can't speak on that.
I can speak on that.
I think it's stupid.
But at the same time,
if I can finish my point,
it's the state.
They gave control of the state.
They had
a guide that they had to follow
two weeks without the numbers
going up, and most of the states, that's what
they hit. Those were the guidelines. Those
were the measures that were put in place. Those were the metrics.
And they hit that, so the states started
reopening. And so now we're faced
because of mostly
young people out protesting.
Unfortunately, what happened.
That's why we're spending these.
Got it.
And these people hanging out in these bars.
Well, that's actually not been true.
It's actually the data has not shown.
All right, Rob, 20 seconds real quick.
Go.
Yeah, yeah, very quickly.
The leadership sets the culture.
At the very beginning, he said this was a hoax.
He didn't take it seriously.
He should have said a national response because it required a national response.
Instead, he just gave away leadership and took no accountability. So this is what you get when
you have no leader. Look, bottom line is you just got trifling people. Hey, PPP, still a big issue.
Congress's watchdog on call on the Trump administration to step up efforts to police
the government's massive small business rescue program after finding a significant risk of fraud and resistance to oversight at an agency running the bailout.
The Government Accountability Office targeted the Small Business Administration in a sweeping new report looking at how agencies have used two point six trillion dollars in economic relief funds appropriated in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. It was determined in the report that the $670 billion
Paycheck Protection Program,
which offers small business loans
that can be forgiven
in exchange for maintaining payroll,
had limited safeguards
and insufficient guidance
and oversight planning,
all of which have increased
the likelihood that borrowers
may misuse or improperly receive loans.
This is what happens, Derek,
when you obviously when you rush something out and you just want to put the money out there.
I mean, look, we've even seen what I think they said a billion dollars in checks were mailed to dead people. No, I agree with you right there, bro. It was it was it was it was a rush to put the money out there because they wanted to get it out there to the public and thinking that was the right thing to do.
But damn, they should have put some type of oversight in place so that this type of stuff didn't happen.
And you're right.
A lot of big businesses, a lot of white corporations benefited from this stuff.
Now, some are giving it back, but for the most part, they're not.
And it's unfortunate because now I was on a call today
with the White House African-American service,
okay, and they were giving an update
on different things, and
PPP was one of them.
Now, there's still a lot
of money still sitting there
for minority businesses to go and get.
Right. But the banks,
the banks and everything, they've got to open
lending practices, and apparently they've met with a lot of the Black-owned banks here in the bank, the bank and everything they've got to open a lending practices.
And apparently they've met with a lot of the black owned business, black owned banks here in the country.
Every last one of them, apparently. And in trying to extend those opportunities to some of these black black businesses so they can get these loans.
I want to bring in. So there's a lot of money. There's a lot of money out there still to be made for black businesses.
But it's unfortunate what happened with the oversight. I want to bring in Alfreda Robinson,
who's president and CEO of the National Bar Association.
Alfreda, glad to have you on the show.
So what is the NBA saying to ensure there are protections
when it comes to that these dollars are not being misused
and inappropriate, misappropriated?
Well, thank you so much for having me on.
We have a very active task force,
which I established as soon as COVID hit. And part of what that task force is doing
is we're monitoring it. Obviously shocked by the report by GAO that there was all these-
Alfredo, hold tight one second. Hold tight one second. I have some issues with
your shot. Y'all go ahead and work that out.
I want to go to
Rob here. Rob,
again, bottom line is
this $2.6 trillion.
Yeah, that's a lot of money.
That's a lot of money. Then, of course, you have
Steve Mnookin, who initially said,
oh, no, no, we're not going to tell y'all who we gave that $600
billion to. What the hell is that about?
That's about Trump being Trump and the Congress not having enough conviction and really fighting.
So, look, they act surprised when Trump said, I'm not going to follow the rules.
I'm not going to listen to you.
They should have put that in the bill on the front end.
And then when it goes to African-American businesses, how the PPP was
designed to not actually allow you to account for independent contractors and things like that,
which most African-American businesses have, that automatically took us out of it too. So it should
have been a stronger bill on the front end. Yeah. Like in my case, I mean, look, we got
38,000 in PPP loan, but I only have four full-time employees. The other six people are 1099s, Teresa.
Yeah. No, you're absolutely right. I mean, the PPP could have done more than what it's done.
You know, I have friends who practically, outside of the PPP, friends still haven't
even received the stimulus check, even if they were coming back from reentry, because
the oversight and the criteria that was being met on some of these when it was time for them to cut
the checks or put the account number, something was going on in the Treasury Department where
they're just like, if the government released some of the individuals coming home for COVID-19,
then they were supposed to get a stimulus check regardless. But apparently there's issues that
is going on with the Treasury Department that, you know, they're basically still checkboxing that they're still incarcerated when
clearly they're home. And so there's issues like this that's happening over there. There's issues
happening with the PPP. And it doesn't bring satisfaction to not only the minority businesses
like mine. I wish I got almost $10,000, right? But like you, we have 1099s and
then we have the employees and then they're doing some other factors and then they're doing credit
checks, you know, and so the credit checks are also a big function of why minority businesses
can get loans today. So yes, if they, if I think there should have been a two-week, maybe a month, but no, probably two weeks is enough,
where there really was some strategy that was thought out about when there's a pandemic,
what do we need to do to protect small businesses and lay it out, not lay it out afterwards, lay it out in the beginning and so i hope when they when this report is finally finished
that they can have a clear and concise report that is due so we can if this happens in the
future or this extends more than what we think it does got it um that we know how to plan for
the future alfredo will we have we have you back again what so what is the n NBA saying should be done to make sure? Yes. What we've done is we've actually done four webinars about how to apply, how to reapply, how to get around all of these problems.
And our lawyers and those who have been on the webinar were given very specific instructions and what banks still had money and how to work
with your community banks and have had success with that. And we're going to repeat that
instruction during our convention, which is coming up in July and before. We're looking forward to
these reports that are supposed to be due July 1st. But here's what's important.
There is an oversight committee which is chaired in the House by none other than the majority whip
Clyburn. And what we've seen today with the GAO reports, we're going to see and should have reports from the at least nine inspectors
generals that were stood up to do the investigation of where the money was going and to whom and
what amount.
All of this should be there.
It's supposed to be July 1st.
Now, the NBA, we're watching this.
We've got
experts. We've got our committee chaired by one of our past co-chairs, by one of our past
presidents, Benita Banks. We stay on this 24 hours a day. And so we are keeping in touch with
all of this. We have accountants who's also lawyers among our members, and we are ready to follow this and demand, and hopefully the
members of Congress will invite me to testify. We are producing a report and are ready to support
small businesses, which is a lifeblood of not only America, but our communities. So if you all need assistance, then we ask that you let us know and we can, again, help with doing, again, these COVID-19 webinars. are continuing to work. We are drilling down on the legislation because we've studied it for months
now. And we will go to the House of Representatives and we will demand that we get reports from these
special inspector generals who are paying out of this stimulus money so that we won't just go away and
be without remedies because our members as well are small businesses. And they have been successful
with the process of applying for these small business loans, which remember, this was so that you could keep your employees employed.
But also, there are ways of also accounting for your independent contractors.
So just stay tuned.
And when we're here, those who need to reach us, go to nba.org
and be
sure we can help
you through this process with
the webinars which we do,
which we offer for
free. All right.
Alfreda Robinson, President, CEO
of National Bar Association. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you. Bye-bye.
Folks, going to break. We come back.
We're going to talk about several different things.
First of all, could that Confederate emblem be coming off a Mississippi flag?
We'll talk with actress Anjanue Ellis right here on Roller Barton Unfiltered.
Also, we'll talk about Republicans dropping more ads.
Republicans who don't like Trump, man, they are hitting him hard with these various ads.
We're going to talk about that next on the show as well.
Plus, we'll also be joined by Terry Ellis of En Vogue,
which is a new song out tied to the movement
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In Mississippi, they are closer to actually getting rid of the Confederate emblem on the state flag. Folks, yesterday, actually all week, business leaders, coaches of the state's
football teams have been descending on the state capitol saying it's time to get that emblem off
of the state flag. The governor of Mississippi now realizes the votes are not there. I got a text
earlier from somebody who's in Mississippi who told me that they believe they now have the votes are not there. I got a text earlier from somebody who's in Mississippi who told me that they believe they now have the votes to actually overturn. And what the governor has
been trying to do is he wants the citizens to vote on that. Remember, they had a referendum
a couple of years ago and 64% of the people in Mississippi said keep that flag. And so the
governor wants the voters to vote, but the legislature is under major pressure from the
business community
because they're realizing they're going to lose a whole bunch of money if that thing stays on.
The SEC has already said no championships in Mississippi if that flag still stands. The NCAA,
same thing as well. Joining us right now is actress Anjanue Ellis. She has been a strong
advocate against this flag, speaking out against
it. Anjanue, again, it's not a done deal, but the legislature apparently says they'd have the votes
to actually vote to remove that emblem from the state flag.
That's what I'm hearing, too.
You've been fighting this thing.
You were here in D.C. a few years ago.
We covered it.
Y'all had a rally in the U.S. Capitol.
You've been out here raising hell.
Obviously, you don't celebrate
until it's actually done,
that flag comes down.
But it looks like the murder of George Floyd,
again, is changing something else in America.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
I mean, and first of all, I just want to say that it it it makes me so angry that we had to lose Mr.
Floyd, that Mr. Mr. Floyd's family had to lose him, that that Riona Taylor had to be lost,
had to be killed for us to come for us to come to this place. And Mr. Floyd,
George had to be killed in such a brutal way. And we all witnessed it. And there was just,
you know, it was just it has brought us to this moment of reckoning.
And I'm so thankful to to George Floyd's family. I'm so thankful to George Floyd and his absence.
I'm so thankful to him. But I would take it back just to have him back, just to have him back with his daughter, Gianna.
And I just think that it just it's infuriating that these moments have to happen for us to
suddenly find a conscience. The SEC suddenly finds a conscience. The NCAA suddenly finds a
conscience. The Conference USA suddenly finds a conscience because of the way that George Floyd
was tortured and killed.
And it's a shame. It's just a shame that that has to happen.
The governor desperately wants to avoid this. He wants the voters to vote on it.
But you have some legislators who are under enormous pressure.
I mean, Mississippi has gotten hit with economic sanctions before. This is different.
And I think not only the economic sanctions,
when that brother from Ole Miss said,
I ain't going to play football.
No, them white folks are scared.
These black ball players are not going to take the field or the court.
Exactly.
And I mean, Kyle and Hill, his name is Kyle and Hill, and he's a hero.
He is a hero. He is a hero.
He is a hero.
He's a Mississippi.
He's a running back for Mississippi State.
And we did a rally at the SEC a few years ago in the rain. I wasn't able to go, but I put the money in to send folks in, to send folks from Mississippi to Alabama to the SEC headquarters.
And they was out there and we got filmed.
They ended up on television and everything.
But, you know, we got we didn't even get a response from the SEC.
But now, you know, now all of a sudden, like I said, they have a conscience.
They have a conscience.
And I've been saying this.
The reason why we sent those reason why we sent them buses over there to the said, they have a conscience. They have a conscience. And I've been saying this, the reason why we sent those,
the reason why we sent them buses over there to the SEC,
because we knew that.
We knew that Mississippi ain't got but a couple of economies
that are viable.
And one of them is the chicken plants,
and the other one, two of them, is the chicken plants,
is the church, and it's the chicken plants it's it's the church and it's football if they lose football
the the the the injury that would be done to the economy in in Starkville in Oxford which is where
Mississippi State and Ole Miss are they would never recover from that they would never recover
from that and you don't think about it all of this stuff is in question because of because of the
virus now and then you're going to add on to that the likelihood that there would be there would be
no football at all they that's untenable that is untenable for the state and and and and and um
you know let me let me let me let me add let me add this so this idea of the southern baptist
convention after all this pressure we've been we've been writing to them and folks been saying stuff to them.
And they have finally they have finally said that that the flag must come down.
So the two most viable economies in the state of Mississippi, football and church, have finally said enough is enough and the flag must come down.
And the and the pressure is too strong. But even with all that pressure,
Tate Reeves is on some, I'm so torn, who's the governor? I'm so torn. I don't know what to do.
And I'm praying about it. I mean, it's ridiculous. They were supposed to vote today at three o'clock
and they adjourned for some reason. So they're stalling. They are stalling.
But, you know, there's they said they're going to go back. They're going to go back at 10 o'clock tomorrow.
The fact is, we just got to keep that. We have to keep the pressure on.
The pressure has to be kept on these folks or they could do the same thing they did in 2001.
The thing is, is racism outnumbers us in Mississippi. Racism outnumbers us. And that's why Tate Reeves wants to put it up for a vote because he knows that.
He knows that.
He knows that if he puts it up for a vote, the flag will remain the same because racism outnumbers us in Mississippi.
Period.
Well, we will be watching this.
Apparently, there's, again again i got a text saying there
will be a vote tomorrow a saturday uh we'll see if that actually happens uh if this legislature
finally gets some guts to get that confederate emblem off the flag and but the last point here
and we and and we've had these very discussions before, there are black people,
and I'm seeing some of the comments,
who are saying, look,
taking that emblem off that flag,
not going to change a damn thing.
That look right there is the response.
How do you respond to them?
Two words. No, I got four of them, actually.
Dylann Roof, Heather Heyer. And I don't need to say any more. I don't need to say all the other names, but those are the names that they should remember, because that has happened in the last
few years when Dylann Roof went into Mother Emanuel AME Church in South Carolina
and killed and massacred those black people
after he prayed with them,
we found pictures of Dylann Roof waving the Confederate flag.
When Heather Heyer was mowed down in the streets
of Virginia, she had Confederate flags
flying all around her. That flag is not just a symbol,
it is an instruction to terrorize American citizens. Hands down, point blank, full stop.
And so what I know is, what I know is, is that this idea that, you know, it's not going to change anything.
No, it's not going to change anything because you can't dismantle Confederate culture by taking down the Confederate flag.
That the work of dismantling Confederate culture is hundreds of years in the making.
That's why it was so hard for us to come to this moment, because you're not taking
down the flag. You are dismantling a culture. But the idea that these folks who were the architects
of this culture would have to surrender themselves to another kind of vision is significant. It
matters. And then we can start having really productive conversations about
how the Confederate culture affects our lives. One is voting rights, workers' rights. And here's
the other thing when I talk about when folks say, oh, it don't matter. It does matter.
Because people will walk, I'm talking about the everydayness of the flag. The everydayness of
the flag is the fact that it is another kind of segregation.
It's another kind of segregation.
If you come to Mississippi and you go and you go to see a store or something like that,
and they got a flag, they got that flag hanging out there.
You go, I'm not going in that store.
If you go to a restaurant, they got a flag hanging out.
You go, I'm not going in that restaurant.
If you go down a road and the first thing you see on the end of that road, I'm telling you,
cause I'm living that life in Mississippi. If you see that flag at the end of that road,
you're not going to go down that road. So what it does is, is white people don't have to say
we're segregationists here. What they do is they put that flag there and you know, not to go there.
The other thing is a a couple years ago,
I think this happened in 2018, if not 2016,
there was a man who showed up in the Delta,
North Mississippi, North Mississippi or the Delta,
at a voting booth with a Confederate flag on his shirt
and a noose.
Yep, I remember. Yes, exactly. Confederate flag on his shirt and a noose. Yep.
I remember.
Yes, exactly.
So when people saw that, what do you think people thought?
What do you think a voter who walks in a place and sees this white man with a Confederate flag and a noose on his chest, what do you think they think?
Oh, I'm not scared of that. I'm not going, I don't have a reason to be afraid of that. And let me tell you this,
but beyond whether you're afraid or not, he's telling you that you need to be afraid. He's
telling you that you need to reconsider voting that day. That is what he is telling you. That
is what that message is. That's what that message tells you, that black people are not welcome here. You are not wanted here. It is
another form of segregation. That's what it is. I'm going to say this right quick, because I know
you got other folks to talk to, but I think this is the next step in this. That flag is going to
come down. That's going to happen. The next step is, what is the flag that is going to replace it?
That's the one thing. And already, these segregationists are trying to chime in
and say what the flag ought to look like, right? You have this, you know, there's this Stennis flag
that is now called the hospitality flag that was designed by Lauren Stennis, who is the granddaughter of Senator John Stennis.
John Stennis was almost a congressman for life from Mississippi. a Democrat, and besides being a segregationist and a signer of the Southern Manifesto, which
decried public integration, besides all of that, in this moment of talking about torture
of Black men, John Stennis prosecuted a case in Mississippi in the 30s.
And in that case, three men who were accused of killing a white farmer.
Those men were tortured.
They were stripped of their clothing and beaten with leather straps on their backs.
That's okay.
That's terrible.
But one of them was strung up by a noose repeatedly until he told the police what they wanted to hear.
Repeatedly hung by a noose.
So what does that mean?
They strung him up by his neck.
Right before he died, they take him down.
And then they will tell us what we want to hear.
He didn't tell them what they wanted to hear because he would have lied if he did.
And then they strung him up again and they strung him up. He did that. They did that to that man repeatedly.
The confession was the only evidence that they had in that case. The only evidence.
And John Stennis knew it. The crime that the case was so heinous that the United States Supreme Court in Brown versus Mississippi, not Brown versus Board of Education, Brown versus Mississippi overturned that case.
The United States Supreme Court in the 30s said, you know what? You're wrong for that. You're wrong for doing that that's who john stennis is and so he his family wants to put his name on the next flag
of the state of mississippi we cannot allow that to happen one more thing and i'm gonna let you go
here's the thing what happened what's gonna happen in mississippi hopefully jesus
this weekend is is a display of ovaries that the united states congress does not have
because we would not be having this conversation about about the confederate flag is a display of ovaries that the United States Congress does not have.
Because we would not be having this conversation about the Confederate flag if the United States Congress would ban the flag nationwide in the first place.
Why is it legal to fly that flag in the first place?
The United States Marine Corps, even before George Floyd died,
banned that flag months ago. NASCAR
has banned the flag, the public display of the flag. Why isn't Congress involved? Why hasn't
Congress said, okay, now it's time for us to ban that flag? And that's the next step in this.
Organizations like PEN America and the ACLU, who have stood back and allowed domestic terrorism
for American citizens and hiding behind this idea of free speech, need to be the first people to call Nancy Pelosi on Monday morning and say, OK, our bad.
It's time for this flag to come down everywhere, everywhere.
All right, then.
Arjun Ellis, always a pleasure.
I appreciate it, darling.
I'm sorry. I talked a lot, didn't I?
Just a little bit.
Just a little bit.
I appreciate it. Well, I got
your kinfolk, who not your kinfolk,
Terry Ellis, coming up next.
She has her new song called
Angry Woman
that's dedicated to, of course,
this movement. So you might want to check that out.
All right.
All right.
Thank you.
All right, you do.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, Roland, for always standing up for us.
Thank you.
Bye.
Appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Real quick to our panel.
Look, interesting point there, Teresa.
She says Congress should ban that Confederate flag.
What do you think?
I absolutely agree. I mean, the passion behind the flag, but really, it's the motion of the history of what it stands for.
Right. And I think, you know, she's spot on, because if once we take down the Confederate flag, the next question is, what are we putting up?
Right. And and those discussions need to happen now,
I believe, in tandem while we're asking for the takedown.
Because if we start putting, if we take,
my thought process is if we start removing
a Confederate flag and then we start finding,
we're not finding, we have individuals who's just like,
well, since you won't get the flag that has that,
maybe we can put a name that represents the same thing as the flag.
It's pretty much the same exact thing, right?
It's the same exact problem that's not having a solution.
So Congress absolutely need to do what they do for the people,
and they need to ban the flag.
You know, that is the next protest that needs to happen.
That is the next subject matter.
That is the next reform.
But I do think people are making their voices clear locally with the organizations, the groups.
They are telling their elected officials that enough is enough.
Right, right.
And, you know, they want better.
Derek,
should Congress
ban the Confederate flag
in America?
Yes, absolutely. And I think
somebody needs to introduce that.
It's unfortunate that, you know,
that Mississippi running back
that Andre talked about, Kylan Hill,
he's the highest trophy candidate.
So when he stood up, he brought a lot of attention to this issue in addition to what she's been doing.
And it's unfortunate because right now Mississippi is the only state that still has the Confederate flag, the entire Confederate flag attire.
And the question is, which you guys were just saying, what are they going to put up there instead?
Because even now
there's five other states
that ban the Confederate flag,
but they still have, you know,
unfortunately, the symbols from it, like
the X and the stars.
Arkansas has the stars. Georgia has
the X. A couple other states.
So I'm all for
banning all elements,
all of the attire from the Confederate flag.
It needs to go because it represents so much.
I would say it points to the whole South lost cause
that endorses the supposed, you know,
virtues of Southern way of life
that a lot of white people still live by in the South.
Yep. I got you. Rob.
It endorses white supremacy. So what you can't have is state sanctioned violence,
saying the state like this is OK for us to represent this.
Like when I hear black folks, anybody say, well, we shouldn't worry about it.
Can you imagine Jewish folks saying it would be OK for you to hang Nazism up there?
No, of course not. It's the same thing.
This was started.
We know that Confederate flags were brought back to intimidate black people post-Reconstruction
to put us in our place, to make sure they put white superiority back.
And these were traitors to the country.
Like, I don't understand the argument in this.
These people lost the war.
They were traitors.
They have no place there.
The flag shouldn't be there.
And it's there just to preserve white superiority for some people. But you know what? Just like reparations,
other people would rather light their own money on fire than to give reparations to
black people. And I think some people feel the same way about the flag. They might just
burn up the state, then actually get rid of the Confederate flag. But we've got to keep
fighting because this should be, this is about basic humanity. People have to respect us.
This is just the beginning. Then we have to have a real conversation about what happened in this country.
And it should be a reminder everywhere in this country, just like it is in Germany when they talk about the Holocaust.
All right, folks. All right. A lot of people out there in the streets.
They are protesting. First of all, let me do this here. Let me thank the panel.
I want to thank you all, Teresa Derek, and Rob. Thanks a bunch.
Derek, get your damn Wi-Fi fixed.
I don't know what's going on.
Maybe it's because today's my birthday.
Maybe that's what it is.
No, maybe it's because you don't know.
My daughter and my birthday.
Maybe because Omegas don't know how to work the damn video.
You know, it could be that, too.
You need some
capas and maybe a few alphas to help you. Who knows?
Now, you know the alphas can help.
Don't even try that. I mean, don't.
We got some smart nukes, too.
But, I mean, that's also what happens
when you got that crooked-ass Wi-Fi.
Oh!
Maybe don't
horizon it. Yeah, for
an hour and 45 minutes, we've been seeing a damn photo up there.
Everybody else got video.
My bad.
It's a good-looking picture, though.
Yeah, and the control room said it sounded like his ass in the closet.
Oh, damn.
Yeah.
I will say this, Roland.
Without kissing up, you have a very, very nice set.
I would encourage people to help out
to even improve
what you're doing.
Well, you know,
we try to have a top flight show
except for people who got raggedy-ass
Skype who can't
log on.
No, I mean, I'm just
pointing out, I appreciate that, but it'd be
nice if all three panelists
are actually on video.
This is not a radio show.
This is not an audio podcast.
Our shit work.
You see Teresa and Rob.
Everybody else working.
Everybody else working.
It's only one person
with a still photo.
You.
I don't know.
I'm going to do some research on what happened.
Yeah, okay.
All right.
Thanks a lot, folks.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
All right, y'all.
So y'all hear the show.
A lot of y'all love our theme song.
Y'all go get it ready to play.
Get it ready to play.
So let me tell y'all what actually happened.
So when the National Museum of African American History and Culture opened, Terry Ellis and Cindy Heron, they said, we got a gift for you.
Now, I was like, OK, I thought they were about to give me like an iPhone or something.
And then they told me, they said, OK, so I'm going to take it back. So when we did News 1 Now,
we did News 1 Now on TV One, I asked several people who I know,
could they give me a sample of something of a theme song for the show?
I didn't want that boring ass news music they did.
So Kirk Whalum did something and Cindy and Terry did something.
But TV One chose, they were like, oh, they didn't want to.
They wanted that boring-ass news music.
And so Cindy and Terry said, because of all the work that I do in terms of empowering our people,
they wanted to gift me this song.
And so this song, y'all go ahead and play it.
This is Cindy Heron and Terry Ellis of En Vogue.
They are responsible
for the intro. Sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks He's rolling
It's Uncle Roro, y'all
It's Roland Martin
Rolling with Roland now
He's funky, he's fresh, he's real
The best you know, he's fresh, he's real the best You know he's rolling, Martel
Martel
And I gotta shout out producer Slick as well.
He did that.
And so Terry Ellis joins us right now.
What up, Terry?
Hey!
I thought you were talking about me earlier, too.
Huh?
You know I'm not tech savvy.
I know. Lord have mercy. I was sitting here.
I was like, hopefully she'll
get on before the show ends.
Lord have...
That was true.
Lord have mercy. That's what happens
when you go to Worthing.
You know I wasn't going to let you down. That's what happens when you go to Worthing. You know I wasn't going to let you down.
That's what happens when you go to Worthing.
Oh, you're wrong.
You're wrong.
You're going to go there, right?
What?
At Jack Gates, we at the School of Communications.
That's what you say.
That's what you say.
You know, I'm just saying, I ain't't gonna take a shot at the Prairie View.
I don't want to pee people mad at me, but glad to have you on.
So all the protests out there and you have dropped a new song.
It really speaks to it. Y'all go ahead and play it.
Y'all have it. Y'all have it. OK, fine. I got it.
All right. So let me go ahead and play it on my end.
All right. Y'all, the song is called Angry Woman.
Check it out.
In the United States, the construct of racism
was created specifically to oppress black people,
to try to suppress our determination to achieve liberation.
Like Angela Davis said, it's built into the system.
Nowadays I can't believe what's going on in front of me.
I don't want to watch TV and find another casualty.
I don't want to read the news.
My heart's already black and blue.
I'm putting on my combat boots because I got an attitude.
We're like soldiers forced to fight a war
What the hell?
I can't take it anymore
Cause for so long we've been patient, now we're done
Don't you even ask me when did I become
Such an angry black woman?
What the, what, what?
Was there anything in particular where you said, yo, I gotta get this out?
Uh, well, I don't know if you know or not but this song was it was written and recorded
literally four years ago um the first incident um that we heard of you know one of our
brothers saying they couldn't breathe was eric g. Um, I was working on, um, some music
at the time and I wanted something that, that spoke, uh, loud and strong, um, to what we as
black people, um, have been feeling for over 400 years now. and you know we always get the title uh angry
black woman but no one asks us why we're angry and so um you know at the time it was it was a
culmination of everything that was going on at the time and i wanted to give a voice to how i was
feeling and how so many of us as Black people
and Black women are feeling.
I'm having these conversations on a daily basis
with my friends and I'm sitting at home,
I'm dealing with COVID and trying to follow the protocols
to stay healthy and safe, but I gotta sit at home
and watch on television my brothers and sisters being murdered
by police brutality.
It's senseless. It's unconscionable.
And I wanted to speak about it.
I just wanted to give a voice to it.
And obviously, I mean,
many artists are being moved by this.
Trey Songz dropped a song.
The Chicks, formerly the Dixierey Songz dropped a song. The Chicks,
formerly the Dixie Chicks,
dropped a song as well.
And B.B. Winan
sent me a song the other day that he's releasing
this week as well.
And you released this on
Juneteenth for a reason.
Well, you know,
that actually
wasn't necessarily intentional.
However, you know, when I think about what I was feeling and wanting to express how I was feeling, I wanted to free myself of the anguish that I was feeling when I think about our history and when I think about what we're going through now. So Juneteenth was actually a very appropriate time because when we were told that we were free.
I mean, even just thinking about that, someone telling us that we're free.
Really? We're talking about human beings here. We're talking about a God-given right for you to tell me I'm free.
You also, it's titled Angry Black Woman.
And you're like, look, I ain't trying to sit here and be kumbaya with this thing.
Absolutely not. And here's the thing.
As a human being, we go through a range of emotions. And when you're not comfortable, when you are not feeling good, you're not feeling well, you're not feeling good about things happening in life as a human being, you're either gonna be feeling, and there's a range of them,
I'm not gonna call all of them,
but there's a range of them.
When you're feeling hopeless, despair,
anguish, heartbroken, hurt, duped, bamboozled,
your intellect is being,
being challenged.
Um,
anger is the best emotion to reach for because it,
it,
it's on the road to your self empowerment.
I want my power back.
I don't want to continue to sit and feel hopeless and feel like I can't do
anything about what I'm feeling, about what I'm seeing.
I don't want to sit and continue to bask in despair and feel heartbroken.
I want to do something about it. I want to express it.
You have a lot of sisters out there who are actually protesting, who are marching. Many of them are leading as well. And so I'm sure Tamika Mallory or some of the other sisters out there would really appreciate
this song here because they're making it clear. They said, no, no, we pissed off. We're angry.
We need some stuff to change. Yeah. And we have every right to be,
every reason to be. We're not just fighting for civil
rights, we're fighting for human rights.
Absolutely.
Well, Terry, it is a great song.
We certainly enjoy it. Angry
Woman, people can get it, I would assume
on all music platforms, they can
stream it as well. And so it's
always good to see you, my girl.
Thank you. I love you. And I love you as well, And so it's always good to see you, my girl. Thank you. I love you.
And I love you as well. And I certainly appreciate support.
And for all y'all out there,
not only did Cindy and Terry give us the song,
they're also members of the Breed to Funk fan club.
They sent one of the first checks before we even launched the show.
Just want y'all to know that. And so they certainly support this show.
So we appreciate all that you do.
Thanks a bunch, love.
We got you.
God bless.
Thanks a bunch, darling.
Folks, the song Angry Woman.
Y'all be sure to get it downloaded
and support Terry Ellis.
Gotta go to break.
We come back.
Comedian Dulo is here.
And y'all, he's launching a major, major deal.
It's pretty cool.
So we got some laughs.
We'll talk about this new deal he's doing.
Next, the Roland Martin Unfiltered.
We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them.
They've slipped to the surly bonds of earth to touch the face of God.
Those who are lost now, their legacy must be our lives.
They can hear you, and the people who knocked these buildings down
will hear all of us soon.
Amazing
grace.
I am dispatching thousands
and thousands of heavily armed
soldiers.
We dominate the streets.
I won't traffic in fear and division. I won't fan the flames of hate. It's time to pick up our heads. Remember who we are. This is the United States, America. Now, y'all, Joe Biden dropped that last ad last month targeting Donald Trump.
The ad said 96,000 people died.
Folks, that number is now 125,000.
That's 29,000 folks have died in this country due to coronavirus.
You saw the video there of Donald Trump going to play golf.
Well, guess what?
He was supposed to go play golf this weekend at his golf course in New Jersey,
but canceled that trip because clearly his advisor said,
it's going to look real stupid of you going out there playing golf
while these cases are spiking all across the country.
These online ads have been real powerful.
We've been playing a lot of them targeting Trump.
And trust me, folks, it's having an effect.
Republicans are running scared.
They are now saying that it is Joe Biden's race to lose. But let me go ahead
and be real clear with y'all. I want y'all to ignore every single one of these polls. I don't
give a damn about any poll that says Joe Biden is leading by 12 points. I don't care about the
polls saying he's leading in North Carolina, leading in Texas, leading in Michigan, leading
in Pennsylvania, leading in Wisconsin. It does not matter.
The way to beat Donald Trump and to put all these Republicans
who are his enablers,
we got to target people.
We got to educate them.
We got to register folks to vote.
We got to mobilize
and we got to organize.
What did my man say in the movie
Remember the Titans?
Herman, leave no doubt.
I'm not interested in a close race in November.
Leave no doubt.
Crush Donald Trump.
That's what should happen in November.
So if any of your friends get excited, oh, it's in the bag, you slap the hell out of them and tell them no, it's not. That man has appointed 200 federal judges, right wing judges, many of them who do
not believe in civil rights, who do not believe in anything when it comes to our issues. And the
bottom line is here. We cannot allow another four years of this level of ignorance that we're seeing from this administration.
It's time for them to go. Hashtag fire Trump in November. All right, folks, have not been able to reach Dulo. So we're going to go and close the show out. I want to thank all of you for
watching the show today. Again, more than 4,000 of you on YouTube, more than 1,000 of you on
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I got an announcement next week. It's pretty big. Can't wait to tell y'all. Enjoy the weekend. Have
fun with your family. Be safe. Wash your hands. Carry your hand sanitizer. Please wear your mask.
Stop playing games with this. Young black folks
all around this country, especially in Atlanta, in Miami, in these places,
stop congregating in these groups. Practice social distancing. Half of all new coronavirus cases
are people 40 and under. This is no joke. It's impacting us. Let's be sure
to save ourselves.
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