#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 6.28.19 RMU: C'ville car attacker jailed for life; Sen Harris wins debate; Roland deconstructs Biden

Episode Date: July 2, 2019

6.28.19 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: White supremacist sentenced to life for the deadly Charlottesville car attack; Sen. Kamala Harris comes out on top in the Presidential debates; Roland deconstructs Biden and his problems with segregationists; Has SCOTUS created a way forward for the coming white minority; Top chicken company cuts off Black farmers; Alabama woman is charged for the death of her unborn child + Today marks anniversary of the beginning of the Stonewall riots. - #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: 420 Real Estate, LLC To invest in 420 Real Estate’s legal Hemp-CBD Crowdfunding Campaign go to http://marijuanastock.org Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Today is Friday, June 28th, 2019. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, the white supremacist who killed Heather Heyer in Charlottesville is sentenced to prison. We'll tell you how long he is going to serve. Second Democrat debate last night. Huge night for Senator Kamala Harris

as she destroys Vice President Joe Biden. Coming out with a clear winner. But also, Biden still has issues answering that whole thing about being anti-bussy. I'm going to deconstruct his answer last night and his explanation today, which is still problematic. Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas, this fool, took a shot at Harris over her comments about Biden last night. You really want to bring up Republican Party and race Tom Cotton? I'm going to deal with you. And of course, conservative Ben Shapiro looks like an ass with his comments about busing. I'm going to deal with him as well.

Oh, yes. I'm prepared to whoop a lot of ass today on today's show. All right, folks. We'll also talk about the issue of gerrymandering and how this is all about locking in white supremacy. Mm hmm. Trust me when you hear my guest has to say also a top chicken company cuts off black farmers. We'll talk to a reporter with ProPublica who broke down this story. And we'll also discuss an Alabama woman being charged for the death of her unborn child because she was shot. And today marks the 50th anniversary of the beginning of these Stonewall riots. Folks, it's time to bring the funk.

I'm Roland Martin on the Martin Uninfiltered. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the piss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the find. And when it breaks, he's right on time. And it's rolling. Best belief he's knowing.

Putting it down from sports to news to politics. With entertainment just for kicks He's rolling It's Uncle Roro, y'all It's Roland Martin Rolling with Roland now He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best you know he's rolling all right folks james alex fields jr and devout white supremacist was sentenced today

to life in prison without a possibility of parole for the death of Heather Heyer. You might remember it was Fields who drove his car into a crowd of counter protesters during a white nationalist rally two years ago in Charlottesville, Virginia. Heather Heyer was killed. Nineteen others were injured. Then, of course, today he talked about how sorry he was. Now, earlier, his attorneys asked for leniency, saying he was only in his 20s and had so much to live for. Well, Heather Heyer is dead.

And that racist is now going to spend the rest of his life in prison as well as he should. All right, folks, last night was part two of a 2020 Democrat presidential debate. And last night was 10 candidates of a 2020 Democrat presidential debate. And last night was 10 candidates. The previous night, it was 10 candidates. And, oh, my goodness, it was lots of drama last night. And we'll start first off with this here. Mayor Pete Buttigieg was asked a question about his city's police problems and, of course, the recent shooting death of a black man.

This is what he had to say. My community is in anguish right now because of an officer-involved shooting. A black man, Eric Logan, killed by a white officer. I'm not allowed to take sides until the investigation comes back. The officer said he was attacked with a knife, but he didn't have his body camera on. It's a mess, and we're hurting. And I could walk you through all of the things that we have done as a community. All of the steps that we took from bias training to de-escalation, but it didn't save the life of Eric Logan. And when I look into his mother's eyes,

I have to face the fact that nothing that I say will bring him back. This is an issue that is facing our community and so many communities around the country. And until we move policing out from the shadow of systemic racism, whatever this particular incident teaches us, we will be left with the bigger problem of the fact that there's a wall of mistrust put up one racist act at a time, not just from what's happened in the past, but from what's happening around the country in the present. It threatens the well-being of every community. And I am determined to bring about a day when a white person driving a vehicle and a black person driving a vehicle, when they see a police officer approaching, feels the exact same thing, a feeling not of fear, but of safety. I'm determined to bring that day about.

It was a huge night for Senator Kamala Harris of California as she came out firing on all cylinders, and the person she had in her sight, former Vice President Joe Biden. I will release children from cages. I will get rid of the private detention centers. And I will ensure that this microphone that the president of the United States holds in her hand is used in a way that is about reflecting the values of our country and not about locking children up, separating them from their parents.

While I'm elected president of the United States, I will give the United States Congress 100 days to pull their act together, bring all these good ideas together, and put a bill on my desk for signature. And if they do not, I will take executive action, and I will put in place the most comprehensive background check policy we've had. I will require the ATF to take the licenses of gun dealers who violate the law, and I will ban by executive order the importation of assault weapons. Because I'm going to tell you, as a prosecutor,

I have seen more autopsy photographs than I care to tell you. I have hugged more mothers who are the mothers of homicide victims, and I have attended more police officer funerals. It is enough. It is enough. Part of the issue that is at play in America today, and we've all been traveling around the country, I certainly have, I'm meeting people who work in two and three jobs. You know, this president walks around talking about and flouting his great economy, right? My great economy, my great economy.

You ask him, well, how are you measuring this greatness of this economy of yours? And he talks about the stock market. Well, that's fine if you own stocks. So many families in America do not. You ask them, how are you measuring the greatness of this economy of yours? And they point to the jobless numbers and the unemployment numbers. Well, yeah, people in America are working. They're working two and three jobs. So when we talk about jobs, let's be really clear in our America No one should have to work more than one job to have a roof over their head We'll let you all speak center Okay guys, you know what America does not want to witness a food fight.

They want to know how we're going to put food on their table. There is not a black man I know, be he a relative, a friend, or a co-worker, who has not been the subject of some form of profiling or discrimination. Growing up, my sister and I had to deal with the neighbor who told us her parents couldn't play with us because we were black. And I will say also that in this campaign, we've also heard, and I'm going to now direct this advice, President Biden. I do not believe you are a racist. And I agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance of finding common ground. But I also believe, and it's personal, and I was actually very, it was hurtful to hear

you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. And it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing. And, you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day and that little girl was me. Vice President Biden, do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in America then? Do you agree? I did not oppose busing in America. What I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education. That's what I opposed.

I did not oppose— Well, there was a failure of states to integrate public schools in America. I was part of the second class to integrate Berkeley, California public schools almost two decades after Brown v. Board of Education. Because your city council made that decision. It was a local decision. So that's where the federal government must step in. That's why we have the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act.

That's why we need to Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act. That's why we need to pass the Equality Act. That's why we need to pass the ERA, because there are moments in history where states fail to preserve the civil rights of all people. That was a moment there where Vice President Joe Biden just got himself destroyed. Today, he spoke at Reverend Jackson's Rainbow Push conference in Chicago, and he addressed last night. Well, look, before I start, I'd like to say something about the debate we had last night. And I I heard and and I listened to and I respect Senator Harris. But, you know, we all know that 30 seconds to 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can't do justice to a lifetime committed to civil rights. I want to be absolutely clear about my record and position on racial justice, including busing.

I never, never, never, ever opposed voluntary busing. And as a program that Senator Harris participated in, and it made a difference in her life. I did support federal action to address root causes of segregation in our schools and our communities, including taking on the banks and redlining and trying to change the way in which neighborhoods were segregated. I've always been in favor of using federal authority to overcome state-initiated segregation. Look, what presidents say matters. It matters. And by the way, when we stay silent, our silence is complicity.

That's what I learned from my dad. Your silence is complicity. That's what I learned from my dad. Your silence is complicity. You know, I promise you, if I get elected president, I will be a president who stands against racism, the forces of inclusion and intolerance everywhere in our society, in our institutions, in our voting booths, and in our hearts. it matters what we say. All right, folks, allow me to deconstruct what Biden's problem is. OK, you heard him speak at the debate. He tried to push back against Senator Kamala Harris. Then he goes before Rainbow Push.

And what he says is he supported voluntary busing, but he opposed the Department of Education mandating buses. Now, busing. Let me take y'all back to the 60s. You look at the Black Freedom Movement starting August 28th, really August 28th, 1955, the lynching of Emmett Till. The Montgomery bus boycott starts December 1st, 1955, okay, in Montgomery, Alabama. Then all of a sudden you go through the end of the 50s and now you go into the 60s. That was the first part of the 57th Civil Rights Act, which was the first Civil Rights Act in America since Reconstruction, since 1875, okay? So all of a sudden, you then go through 1960,

and then you get to 64, a 64 Civil Rights Act, a 65 Voting Rights Act, and a 68 Fair Housing Act. Now, Reverend Arthur Martin Luther King Jr., NAACP, Urban League, and all the other civil rights organizations, they actually wanted a massive civil rights bill when Kennedy became president. They then said Kennedy was like, no, I can't do it. He gets assassinated November 22nd, 1963. LBJ

then says, I cannot pass all of that at one time. So he essentially broke up the massive civil rights bill into three distinct bills. The first one was in 64, which dealt with public accommodations. 65 dealt with voting. Then you had the Fair Housing Act. Now, here's the point that you have to understand how busing is tied to it. White Northerners, okay, had no issue with the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, okay? Because what you are dealing with here is Southern Dixiecrats, racists in the South, and conservative Republicans who did not want to support civil rights.

You did have Democrats and Republicans who voted for all of these bills. So after 1965, what was the problem with housing? Now, y'all did hear me say that the Civil Rights Act was in 64. The Voting Rights Act was in 65. The Fair Housing Act didn't come for another three years. Why did it take three years? Because here's why. Because Northern Democrats and Northern Republicans, their constituents didn't want black folks living

next to them. They opposed those measures. In fact, you had Senator Edward Brooke, the first African-American elected to the United States Senate since reconstruction from Massachusetts, a Republican who was fighting the filibuster and the blockade in the United States Senate of a fair housing bill. What happened? In early 1968, they were able to finally break the logjam and the Senate passed the Fair Housing Act. What then happened? The House said, not doing a damn thing. Not going to do it.

We don't care. King is assassinated on April 4th, 1968. On April 5th, 1968, LBJ sees a letter to Congress saying to the House, we should pass this law. Dr. King gave his life for this law, and this is how we should honor his life. Nine days later, the Fair Housing Act 1968 was passed and signed into law. Now, why does all of this matter dealing with Joe Biden? Because busing was the next wave in the early 70s. Those same white people in the North who did not want black folks living next to them. They also didn't want their kids going to integrated schools. Now, let me use conservative Ben Shapiro to further highlight what I'm talking about.

He released a video trying to explain this whole deal, and he completely missed the racist whites and what their view was in the early 70s. Press play. There's a big difference between forced busing and desegregation. Okay, the forcible integration and desegregation are not the same thing. Forced busing was a government-sponsored policy in non-Jim Crow states, by the way, in Boston, right, in Los Angeles, in which the government was forcing children, 12-year-olds, to get on buses and go to schools at places they didn't know, far from their homes, both black kids and white kids, in an attempt to establish some sort of statistical racial integration. It led...

Now, why does it matter what he's saying? He's saying the government did forced busing. Folks, you do know the government did the exact same thing with public accommodations. It was a force. It was force. It was use of force by the government. When Eisenhower sent National Guards to protect the Little Rock Nine to escort them into school. The government used the force, the full force of the federal government to ensure that black kids could walk into a school.

The exact same thing happened in Alabama where Governor George Wallace stood in the schoolhouse door, would not let two black students at the University of Alabama attend classes. The exact same thing. The difference here is that what Ben does not want to admit is that forced busing was the next wave. Why? Because you had white folks who said, we're going to flee these places, go out to these suburban areas, open our own, build our own communities, build our own communities, open our own schools to get away from all them black people as a result of Brown versus Board of Education and Brown 2. Play the rest of what Shapiro had to say. The very predictable consequence

of parents pulling their kids out of those schools in general, moving them to private schools or charter schools, devastating tax bases in precisely the cities that needed the tax base to stay the most. It led people to... Okay, what Ben is saying is white folks did not want their kids going to school with black students. Now, he said, oh, my God,

they left and enrolled them in private school. We call that white flight. So they didn't say, said, oh, my God, they left and enrolled them in private school. We call that white flight. So they say, no, no, we can't have that. Why are they enrolled in private schools? Private schools were not governed by the government. Public schools were. What does this have? OK, you know what?

Press play and I'll fully explain how Joe Biden is mixing all of this. Hey, to move from those areas further and further into suburbia, leading to even more de facto, not de jure, de jure means by law, de facto segregation. Force busing was an enormous policy failure. It was started with the best of intentions. The government didn't have that authority, and not only didn't the government have that authority, the government was reaching into the private lives of its citizens and forcing them to do something.

This is a big problem. Forced busing was bad policy, and opposing forced busing did not make you a racist. In many cases, opposing forced busing was about ensuring that people continue to live together in the same community and that schools were organized by community as opposed to forcing people to live together in the same community and that schools were organized by community, as opposed to forcing people to get up in the morning, take a 45-minute drive via bus to some other school they didn't know, in a community they didn't know. As I say, black schools, many of them, were forcibly shut down by the state

because they had to redistribute the black students in such a way as to meet the legal requirements set by the Supreme Court in Milliken. It was a case from the 1980s. All of this was bad policy. Okay, first of all, how could busing be based upon a Supreme Court decision in the 80s when we're discussing busing that took place in the 70s? Might want to get your decades straight, Ben. See, y'all, here's what Ben does not want to tell you.

White folks did not want black people going to their schools. He also talked about these things were happening in non-Jim Crow states. You know what that means? Because white people in the North, they said, oh, that segregation thing, that's a Southern thing. We're great white people. But they were in denial. Why do you think the white folks in Boston so fiercely opposed busing? They despised Senator Ted Kennedy.

First of all, why was there even a need for busing? Do you know why? Because Brown v. Board of Education took place in 1954. They said all deliberate speed. And here we were some 16, 17 years later. And we still had inequities. Why? He said, well, folks want to go into the areas where they grew up and where the communities are. People look like them. Do you know what that meant? White people with means said we're going to hold our resources, hold our resources, build our schools. The hell with y'all. The government said, oh, no, no, no. White folks, y'all ain't getting off that easy.

We're going to bus black kids to the better schools that y'all set up to give them access to those schools. Ben is saying that's a horrible idea because they didn't want us in their schools y'all now let me also help you out so you can understand what the school system in america is set up based upon what communities white people had means so they say you know what the way we can keep black people out we keep black people out is hell we're just gonna move further out build communities with more expensive homes they can't afford to live here that system is still set up today because they ran away from black people they never wanted their kids to go to school with us. And when they fled,

the government said, no, we're going to send the black kids not to achieve some kind of stat, but for the black kids to have access to the high quality education that white kids were getting. Senator Joe Biden was a young United States senator from Delaware, and his white constituents wanted him to say, they can't tell us what to do. Now, I'm about to go to Reverend Jesse Jackson in just one second. Why is all this important? Because the argument that Joe Biden is making

is that I was cool with voluntary busing and not forced busing is the same thing that segregation has said. We don't want the federal government telling us what to do. It's the exact same argument. So Biden is saying I was cool with voluntary busing. Oh, no, no, no. I fought this and this and this, but not this. Because Northern whites did not see themselves as racist. They thought bull Connor was a racist. They thought the folks in Albany, Georgia were racist and all across the South. And they said, but no, we just want our schools together. That's why he's wrong. All Joe Biden had to say was three words. I was wrong. I should not have taken the position that would have eliminated all this but for some reason he can't do it because what he what he doesn't want to accept is the reality

that he was defending white folks not wanting black kids in their schools. Schools are about resources. Resources in America are determined by neighborhoods and communities. Neighborhoods and communities are determined by the value of homes. The value of homes in America are determined by those wages and the salaries of the very folks buying those homes. The reason you have segregated schools in America today is not because of charter schools. It's not because of magnet schools. It's because neighborhoods are based upon people. And if white folks in America have more money, you're going to see largely white neighborhoods. And black folks do not have as much money.

You will see, guess what? Largely black neighborhoods, largely Hispanic neighborhoods. This all boils down to money. And Joe Biden, all he had to say was i was wrong it was simple as that i was wrong then he would kick a shut all of this down but he doesn't want to use those three words because it still holds that's the problem she was right vice president biden you're not a racist But the reality is you were defending what is so deep down inside of white America. And that's why they oppose busing. Busing has a direct link to Brown versus Board of Education.

And that's why this thing is still so prevalent. And that's why he aligned with the segregationists in the South to be against busing because they both believe the same thing. And that is we don't want the federal government telling folks what to do, which is why yesterday's Supreme Court decision on dealing with gerrymandering is so important because it is not political gerrymandering. It is race based gerrymandering that impacts political. Reverend Jesse Jackson, senior. I know you on the phone. Let me go to you right now. Reverend Jackson, are you there? How are you doing today, my brother?

Reverend, I was just laying out. Hello? Yes, Reverend, you there? You got me? I am. I'm here. Reverend, I was just laying out. All Joe Biden had to say was, I was wrong.

His position on busing was really defending those white folks in the North who did not want black kids going to their high-quality schools. That is the real issue here, and he just won't do it. Can I bring it another way? Go ahead. He chose states' rights over federal intervention. And tried to justify it. He didn't mind volunteer busing, but court order was inappropriate. The fact of the matter is, states' rights, we had to intervene.

The 54th decision was an intervention against states' rights, we had to intervene. The 54th decision was an intervention against states' rights. The Montgomery Bus Cop was an intervention against states' rights. The right to vote was that. And so he was on the wrong side of history. So he made an adjustment on the Hyde Amendment, on his supremacist views, the政治 rights views, on the other dimension as well. And Reverend, I just don't understand.

And again, let's just understand the moment. He was a young United States Senator who ran against a guy who was espousing racist views. He beats him. The reality is he was representing his white constituents in Delaware with the position that he took.

And they saw this whole segregation thing as, oh, that's a Southern thing. But when the federal government said, hold up, North, y'all got some racism too, the white folks said, oh, hell no, no, no, no, no. What are y'all doing? That's up, North. Y'all got some racism, too. The white folks said, oh, hell no. No, no, no, no. What are y'all doing? That's Alabama, Mississippi. This is not us. And they said, yes.

Brown versus Board of Education impacts y'all, too. Let me put it this way. You know, after 240 years in slavery, the Lincoln versus Jefferson Davis. Jefferson Davis represented slavery, secession, segregation, and sedition.

And Lincoln made the decision, a very practical decision, to free us, and we saved him. And in 2000, joined the Union Army, and we broke the backbone of the South, trying to break away and form another country. Federal intervention was an announcement to slave trade. So the settlement was an announcement to Jim Crow. But for too long, the Federal Government itself tolerated Jim Crow. 5,000 blacks were lynched between 1880 and 1940. The Federal Government university did nothing. But 54th decision,

the Supreme Court intervention against Jim Crow laws. Now, the King and Rosa Parks in 55. They won the court suit in 56, federal intervention. Buster was a means.

It's interesting about Buster. Wasn't the Buster's us. Not the Buster's us. Most American children bus every day now. All rural kids are busing every day now. Most suburban school kids are busing, and most urban school kids are busing

now. The shift from race-based to tax-based, we're preparing a lawsuit because the race gap and the tent% is closed. The resource gap is a gap now. Right. It's based on tax-based funding and public education.

So I think you've educated the nation very well today. I thank you. Reverend Jackson, always a pleasure. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you very much, sir. All right, folks. I want to bring in my panel right now because, again, and I'm walking you through this here because it's critically important.

Erica Savage, host of Savage Politics, Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor for the EPA, and Eugene Craig, CEO of the Eugene Craig Organization. Erica, I'll start with you. Erica, the reason we have to walk through this history is because so many people don't understand the nuance. And when Senator Harris turns to Vice President Biden and she makes the comment, you're not a racist,

here's, I think, the problem that people have. The problem I think we have in this country is that we have these conversations about race. This is a discussion. You're a're racist I'm not a racist that's it we don't deal with all of this in between we don't deal with those who believe in racial inferiority we don't deal with the perception we don't deal with all those different things. What we had here, and again, to me, this is one of those things where, dude, if you've evolved on gay marriage, being a hardcore Catholic, you have to be, and this is where white folks have to own up to their shit. It's, there were views and perspectives in our communities. And you know what? There

are people who did not think themselves were racist. But the reality is they did not want their children being bused somewhere else or black kids being bused to their schools because it was it came down to resources and opportunity. Right. Absolutely. And I'm glad that you laid the foundation, Roland, which is so important, because as we enter into a general election cycle in 2020, voters are going to have to have to have to know more than a 2019 person. They're going to have to review and research. And Joe Biden has a 40-year record. It's not enough that he served as the vice president of the first African-American president in history. It's really about what this presidency is going to mean for black folk, particularly since black women voters are the key, are the ticket,

to who's going to be elected as a Democratic nominee. And when you talked about states, right, and you invoked Albany, Georgia. So if you don't know, I am from Albany, Georgia. I'm a proud, proud person who is from Albany, Georgia. And I'm so glad that you brought that up because, as you don't know, I am from Albany, Georgia. I'm a proud, proud person who is from Albany, Georgia. And I'm so glad that you brought that up, because, as you said, it is folks who live in the North—and I've had this conversation with many of my friends who are from the North who always like to invoke and espouse. And we see that with the revolution of Twitter and all these other social media platforms

to kind of shout down at, well, as you said, I'm not a racist. You know, that person is a racist. And then the conversation ends there. Secondly, you're talking about the whole busing piece. We go back to where, you know, everybody's being bused to. That is the schoolhouse. And so in those traditional settings, this type of information is not brought forth, which is why it is incumbent and it is so important for people to really, really review, look back, find out how all these things connect so that that person becomes a more informed voter and then has a better understanding why they're seeing gentrification happening on steroids, who opportunity zones are for. Those things are very important as voters head to ballot.

I want you all to re-rack Biden speaking to the rainbow push. I want you all to let me know when that is ready. And so play it. I want you to let me know when that is ready. And so play it. I'm going to go to Mustafa. And I need you all to listen to what he says. I need you all to understand, listen to what he says, and then I'm going to connect this thing to 2019. Press play.

Well, look, before I start, I'd like to say something about the debate we had last night. And I heard and I listened to and I respect Senator Harris. But, you know, we all know that 30 seconds to 60 seconds on a campaign debate exchange can't do justice to a lifetime committed to civil rights. I want to be absolutely clear about my record and position on racial justice, including busing. I never, never, never, ever opposed voluntary busing. And as a program that Senator Harris participated in, and it made a difference in her life. I did support federal action to address root causes of segregation in our schools and our communities, including taking on the banks and redlining and trying to change the way in which neighborhoods were

segregated. I've always been- Stop. Stop. Mustafa, this is, why is that important? You can't say I took on the root cause of these problems, yet I fought a solution to the problem. that's what you and that's the piece i think and and connected to today if you become president you're going to have to deal with the outgrowth of the root cause and still got to figure out how do we fix the problem yeah and it speaks to have you truly evolved or not you know he um unfortunately uh continues to be anchored to the past and some of the decisions that he made incorrectly.

And as he said, it was interesting when he said, you know, you can't take 30 or 60 seconds. And as you said earlier, it took three seconds to just say I was wrong. And he still has difficulty in being able to do that. And he just has difficulty in being able to do that. And he just, for whatever reason, and you know, I bumped into him when we were down, when I was down in Miami, and I was hoping that he would be able to better articulate his growth when the cameras weren't around. You know, sometimes people will actually be more honest about what's going on. And he just, for whatever reason, doesn't seem to get it. And unfortunately, I don't know if a lot of people are going to allow him. Never mind.

It's not even a matter of allowing him. He has to make a decision if he is going to support formally racist sort of positioning, if he is going to continue to not take responsibility for some of his actions and the disinvestment that were happening inside of communities that was a driver. Eugene, the thing that, again, this is where I think Biden loses it. I think for, again, a lot of white folks who were in the North, they saw dogs, batons, black folks being beaten, black folks being killed, black folks being lynched. They're like, oh, my God, no. What they didn't say is, wait a minute. What's the level of racism that exists in our communities when we are when we have slums that we're not repairing? Yet we're charging black people four and five times the rent. If anybody goes back and this is the thing that, again, for people who have never actually studied Malcolm X and study Dr. King, when Dr. King went to Los Angeles after the Watts riot, people understand all of Dr. King's travel around the country.

Dr. King was a man of the South. That's what he knew. He knew it. He understood it. It wasn't until King went to Chicago and it wasn't until he went to LA with the Watts riots that he didn't begin to understand Northern racism. Black Southerners saw the North as freedom land. He goes to LA and says, my God, in fact, King and LBJ, if you read Nick Cox's book, Judgment Days, both of them fell into this massive depression after the Watts riot, because they had just passed the sign.

I made the civil rights bill and what's happened right after that. And so whites in the North had this whole other view. That's not us. We're totally different, but they didn't want to address it. Malcolm X was speaking to the racism in the North that blacks were feeling in New York city, in Newark, in Philadelphia, which was totally different than what was being felt in the South.

They could vote in the North. They couldn't vote in the South. But the racism was just as visceral in the North. It just didn't look like it because it didn't have the police dogs and the water cannons in public. You're 100% correct. Even if you look at a lot of our major

cities and population centers today, here in Baltimore, the messages of the policies of the 60s and 70s of racial economics you see it in Baltimore you can see it in Philadelphia you can see it in Boston you know was the home of our American Revolution you still see it in today is something that is not just thing in the past something that is very well alive in the present

it's one of the drivers of the gentrification fight, where white folk are trying to move back to these urban population centers and driving them across the things. But to address Joe Biden, I think it's actually very sad that he just can and move forward from it. You know, from a political standpoint, what's going on with him is what goes on with a lot of presidential campaigns and a lot of high-level campaigns where the black staff are not listening to the black staff and go wherever their white advisor tells them to do. So I can't imagine that we have some heathenless of Cedric Rippon or Samoa Sanders in his email and, you know, still continuing to go out and letting this issue through I.F. Esther even us to the point.

And again, people, and again, I need folks to understand, I know exactly what Senator Kamala Harris was saying when she made her point. First of all, guys, let me know if Ellie Mistal, executive editor of Above the Law and Contributor to the Nation, if we have pulled him up, please. I'm going to pull him to this conversation and tie him into something that he wrote. Ellie, are you there?

I'm here. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. So you wrote a piece dealing with the Supreme Court ruling, dealing with political gerrymandering and the impact on race. And the reality is this here and folks, and of all y'all who are watching and listening, I'm purposely tying all this stuff together because it is all knitted together, just in different ways. In North Carolina, they initially fought the gerrymandering utilizing race. Reverend William Barber and the NAACP, they focused on race. Common Cause said, no, we're going to focus on political gerrymandering.

Folks, they won by focusing on racial gerrymandering. The liberal white folks decided, well, no, let's go for political. So what now happens? The political case goes to the Supreme Court, gets kicked back five to four because they didn't listen to black people. What you're dealing with is gerrymandering case. Ellie is also tied to this whole Biden thing in the past with busing, because what you have is you have folks who want to talk about America in the abstract. So when Biden says,

I was focusing on things that were the root cause, what that really means, if I could somehow redefine what he said, is I'm focusing on that other stuff. But when it came into his backyard, when it came into his constituents' backyard it came into his constituents backyard, they say, hey, hey, hey, hey, y'all go do the other stuff. Not what's happened in my backyard.

And that's really what Biden was dealing with when he opposed busing. And it's in white America. Ellie just can't get past this notion that if they didn't have a Klan robe or they were not sicking dogs on people that somehow I had no racial feeling whatsoever. That's really what's at play here. What I feel when you want to talk about root causes, I always think that the Supreme Court is one of the key root causes, right? Yes. What white people, I think, not all white people, obviously, what some white

people really fear is that sharing of power, right? And that's how you get into school segregation. That's also how you get into busing. And that's certainly how you get into gerrymandering. What gerrymandering is trying to do when white You can make four districts that are 50-50 Democrat-Republican. You can make two districts that are Republican and two districts that are Democrats. Or you could make three districts that are Republican and one super district that's Democrat, and that's what the gerrymanders, that's what the Republicans want to do. That is essentially what they did in North Carolina. So now there are two different ways, and you brought this up and it's a really important point. There are two different ways to kind of constitutionally think about that issue, right?

On the one hand, you can think about it as a political gerrymander, the way that I just split it up, Democrats, Republicans. The other way you can do it is that you can think about it as a racial gerrymander. You want to put all the white people in the three districts and all the black people in the one district, right? What Roberts did yesterday in honestly one of the worst decisions that I have read is that he parsed the difference between political gerrymandering and racial gerrymandering, trying to say that he was trying to help black people, by the way. We'll get to that. But he parsed the difference between political gerrymandering and racial gerrymandering and said that when it's political, when the Republicans are just doing it

to beat the crap out of the Democrats, that's not just constitutionally fine. That means that is so constitutional that the courts cannot even review it. The only way in that situation that you can get redress for having your vote essentially gerrymandered out of existence is to no, no, then the courts can allegedly still to say that gerrymanders that have been done so that black people can pick their own representative, right? So that Harlem can have a representative for Harlem and not a representative for the Upper West Side of New York, which might not turn out to be a person of color. Clarence Thomas and John Roberts want to be able to strike down that gerrymander and say that you can't break up

your districts so that you can make sure that you have a black representative, a Latino representative, and a Jewish representative, and a LGBT representative. No, no, no. That's unconstitutional. But if you just want to do it so that Republicans beat the crap out of Democrats every day, that's fine.

And that was the decision. And what you're dealing with, Erica, and again, we're knitting all this together, folks, because you need to understand the commentary I did yesterday about how all of these things are interrelated. The political, the local, the state, the national, and the courts. If you go back to, I believe it was 1883, when the Supreme Court invalidated the 1875 Civil Rights Act, and they literally wrote the Supreme Court to Ellie's point about how they really made determination in America whether we were going to have true segregation or we're going to have freedom, depending upon the time period you're living in,

that Supreme Court literally said Congress could not outlaw segregation because of states' rights. And so when Biden is saying, I was for voluntary, not forced, what he's saying is, I didn't want the federal government telling a local city council or a local city school district or a local county government what to do, that is exactly why the federal government had to intervene. Because, as Ellie just laid out, when white folks are in control of the levers of power, they are going to use it to their benefit.

Absolutely. And Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell keeps continuing to prove that over and over again. And you brought up Tom Cotton earlier in that tweet that he sent out, which juxtaposes Ronald Reagan when he ran, goes down to Mississippi, and he's winking and nodding and telling them, listen, I'm not going to take away your state's right. I will be the president of the United States, but I'm your president as well. So it doesn't just cross—it's not just concentrated in one party. It goes again—it goes to one dominant race's own interests.

And so that, again, is also why it's important to be a student of history and also to pay attention to global history, what we saw happen in South Africa, where you do have a majority of people that are locked out of power, because the minority— the majority, you see, the minority folks are locked out of power because the majority saw the wave coming and they solidify a concentration where it doesn't matter if it's 80 percent of you Cotton. I'm going to link that to this, folks. This is what Tom Cotton, of course, Republican from Arkansas. This is what he had the audacity, the unmitigated gall to tweet last night after the Democratic debate. Pull the tweet up, folks. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are helpfully reminding Americans that the Democrats were the party of slavery, secession and segregation. By contrast, the Republican Party was founded on and has always stood for the natural equality of all men and women. Eugene, I tweeted him last night and I said, really? Well, why won't you speak to why you said, well, they were talking about the crime bill,

that more Americans should be put in prison, Senator Cotton. I then said, Senator Cotton, please speak to the issue of voter suppression and the targeting of black voters and Republican Party going along with that. And I went down the line. So here you again have a white Republican in Tom Cotton representing lots of black folks in Arkansas who supports policies that are race-based, but he wants to say, oh, it's those Democrats in their past,

as if the Republican Party doesn't have it doesn't have its own past because it too benefited from white supremacy and benefited from Jim Crow and yes benefited from slavery. Forget the past regarding the current future and present um you know it's been a downward spiral since uh you know the chairmanship of Chairman Priebus. The thing is this, Tom Cotton's in no position to speak on these things. Most GOP senators and members of the House aren't in position to speak on these things because they are in lockstep with the President of the United States, Donald Trump, who we know to be an unabashed racist, both in policy and in deed. And so, you know, the thing is this, you know, the Dixiecrats, you know, are your current day Republicans in many places.

You know, Democrats are, you know, still, some of them are still, you know, still hold racist views as well. There's racism in both parties. But Tom Cotton is in absolutely no position to speak on this, especially some of the votes that he's taken, some of the policies that he's opposed and some of the narratives that he's pushed as a U.S. senator. Mustafa, the mistake I think the people are making, they're saying, oh, that's right. See, that's it. I ain't voting for Biden. Oh, you know what? I'm not going to vote for Harris because, you know, she was attorney general vote for harris because you know she was attorney general and this is what she did when she's attorney general and then they say oh i'm not gonna vote for castro and then i need to see this need to see that what these folks need to understand is

they had better open their damn eyes to the much broader picture there is a very clear and concise plan of action by today's Republican Party, knowing full well that America is about to become a majority minority nation. The Republican Party today, and I have no problem saying it, wants this nation to in many ways to be like South Africa. How can we lock in power using the courts, which is now reinforced political gerrymandering, which now means the control of the state legislatures and the gubernatorial mansions in these largely southern states, throwing in these western states, throwing in these midwestern states for the next 50 years. That is what is at play. And anybody out there who is saying, I'm not going to vote, you're a dumbass if you don't

understand that they want to control America for your children, not just you. Yeah. And your children's children. It's the strategy that's in place to make sure that you hold on to power. And, you know, we talk about how important the courts are because the courts are going to make some decisions that are actually going to guide what the states are doing, going to guide how policy is being interpreted and moving forward along with the laws. And I hope folks will finally wake up and get this.

So, you know, when we're having this conversation about gerrymandering, it's so much larger because this is going to be determining who has the power of their vote. This is also going to determine who is going to get the resources to be able to deal with housing, who's going to be able to deal with the resources that are necessary to make sure transportation routes are not extracting wealth from your community and bringing wealth back into your community? Who is going to have the power to determine what's going on with the environmental issues and jobs and so forth and so on? All of it ties back into your vote, and the vote is controlled by the way the gerrymandering places certain power into certain people's hands. And Ellie, we saw what happened in Florida where the people went to the polls, passed Amendment 4 to restore the voting rights of the formerly incarcerated. that got there because of, I will say, racial slash political gerrymandering,

a supermajority, completely overruled the voters, put in this poll tax, and now what people thought was going to be upwards of 1.4 million people getting the right to vote, they're like, nope, we're going to lock this in because they knew exactly what that meant. Which means that if you're sitting your ass watching right now and saying, I'm not going to vote because I'm not hearing the perfect candidate, you had better understand that you not voting. You literally are doing exactly what they want to do. And let's not forget when Donald Trump said the African-Americans were

great, they didn't vote in 2016. I agree with everything that's been said. You can't let your vote be colonized by the Republican Party because that's what they're trying to do to it. As other of your guests have said, I think it was Erica who just said it, the Republican Party plan is exactly like the white South African plan. That's not hyperbole. They understand that we're about to be a majority minority nation. They understand that they cannot win either statewide or national elections if everybody votes. And they certainly understand that they cannot win if all people of color vote. So their attack is to both directly suppress the vote, I mean, just straight up like lose ballots and change polling time, but just straight up directly suppress the vote.

Their plan is also to demotivate the vote and partially by, you know, oh, this candidate has this problem, this candidate has that problem. Maybe you should just stay at home. Maybe you should just vote third party. Like, that's also part of their plan. And if all else fails, that's when they kick it up to the courts, who will, you know, as you said, what's happening in Florida is a poll tax. We have an amendment saying that you can't have a poll tax.

But is the current Supreme Court, with Neil Gorsuch, who was on the court because Mitch McConnell stole a Supreme Court seat from a black president, and Brett Kavanaugh, who allegedly attempted to rape somebody, are those two guys going to vote to uphold our constitutional amendment for the poll tax? I don't think so. So you're absolutely right. You can't let all of the, I don't know, sadness depress you from going out to vote. In fact, the only thing you can do is to make sure you vote, make sure you fill out the census. I know you have a lot of Latino listeners and viewers, Roland. This whole census thing has been one giant attempt to discourage Latino people from filling out the census form. And filling out the census form is one of the most critical things that you can do because it determines which states have representation and which communities have representations.

We have to get the message out that people must fill out the census. So it's an all-of-the-above strategy. But I do want to break into something you said about Tom Cotton because, look because Tom Cotton's a jerk and we don't need to talk about him. But I don't want to let Democrats off the hook. Oh, absolutely. Because because when the Democrats get in power, they do not do the kinds of things that are necessary to protect us from when the Republicans inevitably the cyclically retake power. The Democrats do not do a good job of appointing hardcore progressive and liberal judges who are going to defend our rights.

The Democrats do not do the job of putting in place the legal protections that people of color need to protect their votes. So the Democrats have some of this blood on their hands. Oh, no, no, absolutely, which is why the election of an Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ayanna Pressley to leave in Detroit, an Ilhan Omar in Minneapolis is critically important because you need folks who understand that. And that's the piece there, which means you can't get an AOC or an Ayanna Pressley or an Ilhan Omar if you don't vote. Absolutely not.

Look, I live just north of AOC's district. And depending on how the census goes, who hate AOC so much that they're not—I don't want to say targeting, that's too strong, but they are thinking that her seat might be a seat that they can lose. And all I've got to say when I think about that is, well, what you're really saying is that my congressman is about to lose his seat, because if amc has to run against my congressman guess who i'm voting for right and they're and and african americans latino americans we that's how we have to be that's how we have to start voting we have to start voting for what we want and not and not vote against what we're scared of ellie miss tall i appreciate it man thank you so very much thank you so much for having me on all right folks um there's a reason i'm walking y'all through this there's a reason why we're trying to connect history with present day i really hope joe biden uh and his

campaign watches this last hour to understand how these things are all interconnected uh and speaking of the interconnected we come back from this break. We're going to talk to a reporter from ProPublica who has a story about how major chicken companies have been targeting black farmers one by one to put them out of business. That's next on Roller Barton Unfiltered. You want to check out Roller Barton Unfiltered? YouTube.com forward slash Roland S. Martin. Subscribe to our YouTube channel.

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Ebony Jemison to shoot Jones in the stomach. She survived the shooting, but resulted in a miscarriage. Jemison was charged with manslaughter, but a grand jury failed to indict her, and the charge was dismissed. Abortion rights activists see this as an example of how restrictive Alabama abortion laws may open the door to charges in non-abortion cases. How the hell do you charge the woman who got shot, who lost a baby?

Well, just to kind of paraphrase Malcolm X, the most disrespected person in our nation is the black woman. And this history lesson that folks are getting, this goes back to the criminalization of black women. When you start looking at terms such as welfare queens, when you start looking at definitions of mother, just even on a Google image search, you don't see black women. So largely, the population doesn't see black women in a healthy way as being mothers who actually care for their children. So what this case breaks out is the reproductive rights folks are jumping on it duly, but also looking at it very much so broader to see how really the nation looks at black women so that the woman that shot her,

the grand jury said that, well, no, you can go home for this shooting that happened back in December. But then you have Ms. Jones who's sitting in prison on $50,000 bond, mourning and grieving the death of her unborn child, and then also fighting for her freedom. Mustafa, I just don't understand the logic behind the woman who gets shot, the woman who was hospitalized because she got shot, the woman who loses the baby because she got shot. She gets charged with what? Right. It's almost unthinkable, some of the stuff that these folks are doing, but it goes to what you said. You know, it is a lack of value that we place on black lives and especially on black women's lives. But it also talks about these archaic laws. Even if they are created recently,

they actually seem to go backwards in time with how they focus on communities of color and how we are so easily incarcerated. But this goes to the greater narrative that we're having here today about our vote, about the people who get put into positions of power, about the judges who are making decisions around the sentencing that's in this space. And it goes back to us reclaiming our power. Absolutely. And to add to what Mufasa said as well, the fetal homicide law, which is what was applied to Ms. Jones, but that is also in 38 states. So it also ties into what

you were saying, Roland, and not for people to look at the South. This took place in Alabama, and it was highlighted for that reason. But to also look at this is nationwide. This is not a problem of the South. This is a nationwide problem. Eugene, they indicted Jones on manslaughter because they said she initiated the fight. Yeah. Yeah, you know, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, and you shoot me, um, you know, I don't get charged with murder. You're supposed to get charged with murder. You're supposed to get charged with murder. But this is what we see,

and I think it will be a mischaracterization to call Alabama backwards. I don't think there's an actual proper characterization of what we're looking at here. The only characterization we probably can reach for is this is what happens when you have political power that goes unchecked, and Alabama Republicans for too long

have gone completely unchecked. And this is where we are. Um, you know, earlier this year, we were covering, you know, the, the bubbling up of the heartbeat bills and, uh, and a lot of things that, you know, right to life is doing and whatnot. Um, but, but this is, this is what, this is their end game. This is what they want to see. You know, a woman gets shot and her fetus dies. You know, hey, we're going to charge the woman. This is their endgame. This is out of control political power. Well, there is one saving grace there in Alabama.

First of all, the grand jury, of course, made the decision to charge. But go to my iPad, please. The county DA is a black woman. And she said that her office, they are reviewing this case to determine whether or not they're going to actually pursue the case. And so it's a good chance, Mustafa, they may not. Well, that's good. But, you know, folks need to be supportive. Hold on, hold up. Black folks elected the sister DA. Exactly. Again, going back to why you got to

vote. Exactly. And we should be supportive. People should write in. People should make phone calls. People should do everything to make sure that she has the voice of the community behind her, the voice of the county, and to make sure that, you know, we just got to speak out. But we also got to utilize our power. And again, this is another reason why we vote. Absolutely. All right, folks. Now it's time for our weekly segment on the American worker. All right, folks, you should have a video there.

Now play for the American worker. So go ahead and play it. We're out here today to file charges against UC because UC is outsourcing our jobs. We've had ortho techs that have gotten letters for 36 months that saying they're not going to get a lateral transfer. Their jobs are going to be gone. And if they want a job, they have to go through a second, a third party company. And that is not OK. We need to be respected on our jobs so that way we can give the patient care we need to give for our patients. We need to have safe jobs.

We need to not come to work and fear that our jobs are going to be gone tomorrow because of outsourcing. And however long it takes, whether it takes another day, another week, another month, we need to stay on the fight. Whether one day longer, one day stronger, we need to be out here fighting. All right. We surely appreciate it. Ask me for being one of our partners here at Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, folks, now time for HBCU Giving Day. So that university is Wilberforce University, founded in 1856, located in Wilberforce, Ohio. Little more graduates include Dorothy Vaughn, Leah Teen Price, Reverend, former Congressman Floyd Flake, Bayard Rustin, and many more.

If you want to support Wilberforce, go to wilberforce.edu. That's wilberforce.edu. I've had the opportunity to speak on the campus and also address the alumni. I spoke to the Alphas at an event there. I spoke on their campus years ago. And then, of course, also spoke to the alumni at their annual conference in Philadelphia. And so, again, supportweaverforce.edu. All right, folks, today is also the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall riots, which took place in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of Manhattan. The series of spontaneous violent demonstrations, also referred to as the Stonewall Uprising or

Rebellion, started at the Stonewall Inn because of an early morning police raid. The uprising lasted for three days. Those riots are considered to be the most important event leading to the gay liberation movement and the modern fight for LGBTQ rights in the United States. And it was an African-American who also was, of course, one of the leaders of that. Erica shaking her head. Absolutely. History and context is so important. That is how we're able to value who we are, take control of the things that we actually

did put into place, the infrastructures that we put into place, and really to do, as both of you have said, exercise our power to vote, because that is where our power lies. I mean, this is just another example of how we have to ensure that justice is there for everyone. And it also speaks to solidarity. Now, that solidarity has to be a full 360, if I can say it that way. So, you know, when we stand up for those who are facing injustices, we've got to make sure that those folks are also standing up for the injustices that may be happening to us. And that's what true solidarity is about. That's how we force change to happen. And that's how we hold people accountable. And a co-founder of that, of course, Marsha Johnson, a trans woman,

go to my iPad right there. Of course, one of the leaders of Stonewall. Eugene, your thoughts? Yeah, look, our struggle is a communal struggle. You know, we all deal with civil rights issues. And, you know, we all move forward and we support each other. You know, the LGBT movement, you know, Hispanics, you know, Latino, Latin, next current fight for civil rights, you know, they built their movements based off the successes that, you know, the black civil rights movement had. And so, you know, it's important to highlight, you know, diverse leaders and diverse movements. And, look, we're all in this together. All right, folks.

Again, we'll do this here. That's the end of today's show, so we'll do this here. Final comments. You can make a comment. Anything? Have it this week or whatever. Eugene, I'll start with you. Look, I made early bets on Kamala, and I'm glad them bets are paying off.

And look, I'm all in for Harris 2020. Mustafa. Kamala Harris spit fire, and she held the stage, and she showed that she is ready to be president. Erica, any comment? Absolutely. I will say to everyone, we still have 17 months until the general election to pay attention, do your research, watch this show, fund this show. As Roland has said, you've got to fund your freedom. So we've got to continue to do the work every day. My apologies to Isaac Arnsdorf, a reporter with ProPublica who led the investigation into the black farmers.

I'm going to try to get him on the show on Monday. I just, I went so long with the, uh, with the opening segment there. Uh, so I was so sorry about that. Isaac will definitely have you on the talk about that story, uh, and pushed it out as well. Uh, folks, my final comment is this, and that is, um, history can be two things. It can be history or history, and it's incumbent upon us to understand how what took place then has an impact to today, but you also need to understand why this show matters. So I played for you that Ben Shapiro comment. Here is a white conservative who wants to redefine history. What you are seeing is folks like him, that is by design, because they realize that true American history

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