#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 7.16.19 #RMU: Trump's racism; no Eric Garner charges; No bail for R. Kelly

Episode Date: July 18, 2019

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Jam-packed show, a battle right now on the floor of the U.S. House as Speaker Nancy Pelosi battles with Republicans over calling Donald Trump a racist. They actually tried to get her words stricken from the record. We're going to go live to the floor to show you exactly what's going on. Also, folks, an arrest has been made in the death of Baton Rouge activist, the murderer, Sadie Joseph Roberts. We'll tell you exactly what's going on. R. Kelly, as we speak, is sitting in a Chicago jail, being held without bail,

and he may be there until his trial begins. Bill Barr, Justice Department, guess what, Attorney General, overruled the Civil Rights Division, no federal civil rights charges against the cop who killed Eric Garner five years ago. Also, the continuation of Donald Trump and all his races, and then Republicans, of course, finally deciding to wake up. But now you got folks who are defending Trump

and saying that's not what he was talking about, like Steve Scalise. Oh, yeah, that's a character witness, the guy who talked to white nationalists and white supremacists before. Yeah, okay. And Donald Watkins, remember the attorney down in alabama black attorney him and his son sentenced to federal prison for fraud for uh taking millions

from folks including uh athlete charles barkley a new documentary just like on the 2009 atlanta public school cheating scandal we'll talk with the director and one of the teachers involved in that mick mill heads to court to appeal his 2008 conviction and landing him on probation for a decade. He also wants a new judge. And also Larry Krasker, DA in Philadelphia. He wants Philadelphia to outlaw the death penalty and make it unconstitutional. Folks, we got a jam-packed show. It's time to bring the funk on Roller Martin Unfiltered.

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The floor of the house where Democrats are pushing forward a resolution condemning Donald Trump's racist remarks. Let's take a listen. And it belies a fundamental misunderstanding of our nation's promise that we are all created equal and that everyone has a role to play in building a more perfect union, not just white Americans, every American. We hereby recognize these words for what they are, offensive, hatefulful and the people we represent deserve better as a co-sponsor I believe we must call out hate wherever we see it whether in our own houses or in the White House I urge all members to support the resolution words matter thank you madam speaker reserve Gemma from Georgia reserve gentlelady from Texas.

I'm pleased to yield one and a half minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Georgia, Representative Lewis. Gentleman's recognized for one and a half minutes. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise with a sense of righteous indignation to support this resolution. I know racism when I see it. I know racism when I feel it. And at the highest level of government, there's no room for racism.

It sows the seeds of violence and destroys the hopes and dreams of people. The world is watching. They are sharp and dismayed because it seems we have lost our way as a nation, as a proud and great people. We are one Congress, and we are here to serve one house, the American house, the American people. Some of us have been victims of the stain, the pain, and the hurt of racism. In the 50s and during the 60s, segregationists told us to go back when we protested for our rights. They told ministers, priests, rabbis, and nuns to go back. They told the innocent little children seeking just an equal education to go back as a nation and as a people we need to go forward and not backward with this vote we stand with our sisters

three were born in America and one came here looking for a better life with this vote we meet our moral obligation to condemn hate racism and bigotry in every form thank you gentlemen need more time all right folks let's go back to the house. I think they're giving John Lewis more time. Do what is right, what is fair, and what is just. Gentleman from Georgia. Reserve. I'm from Texas.

I'm pleased to yield one minute to the distinguished gentleman from Ohio, Representative Ryan. Gentleman's recognized for one minute. All right, folks, keep that audio up. I want to hear what Representative Tim Ryan has to say. And so here's what started this whole deal, folks, and that is, of course, Donald Trump's racist comments with regards to the four women of color who are in Congress, telling them they need to go back to the countries where they came from

when three or four born in the United States. And so today they put forth a resolution. It was Speaker Nancy Pelosi who went to the floor. Leave his audio up, please. It was Speaker Nancy Pelosi who went to the floor. And what she then did was she actually talked about his tweets. I'm going to play it right now. This is what Speaker Nancy Pelosi had to say today that caused Republicans to lose their mind on the U.S. floor. Here we go. Go to my iPad, Henry. ...democratic and Republican to join us in condemning the president's racist tweets. To do anything less would be a shocking rejection of our values and a shameful abdication of our oath of office to protect the American people. I urge a unanimous vote and yield back the balance of my... I was just gonna give the General Speaker of the House if she would like to rephrase that comment.

I have cleared my remarks as a parliamentarian before I read them. Can I ask the words be taken down? I make a point of order that the gentlewoman's words are unparliamentary and are ready to be taken down. The Chair will remind all members, please, please do not make comments uh toward personality based or personality based comments okay then all hell broke loose on the floor republicans they came up they start losing their mind acting a fool then representative stevie hoyer came up and said that her comments were out of line when you because you can't make personal comments from the floor against the president of the United States calling him a racist, even though

he's a racist. So what then happened was they then said that Speaker Pelosi could not speak for the rest of the day. So then Republicans wanted to take a vote to strike her comments from the record. It got so heated that Congressman Emanuel Cleaver, you saw him there from Kansas City, a core member of the CBC, he got so sick and tired of all the nonsense that he said, what the hell, I'm out of here, and walked off the podium. Here we go to my iPad. Ready to make a statement. I came in here to try to do this in a fair way.

I kept warning both sides, let's not do this, hoping we could get through. Mr. Paul had a situation where we could be in here on another motion to take down words of a friend of mine and but we don't ever ever want to pass up it seems an opportunity to to escalate and that's what this is I'll dare anybody to look at any of the footage and see if there was any unfairness but unfairness is not enough because we want to just fight. I'll abandon the chair. Wow. It was Congressman G.K. Butterfield of North Carolina, another CBC member, who then stepped to the podium.

So what then happened, they took a vote to strike Speaker Pelosi's comments from the record that failed then they took a vote uh to restore her speaking privileges that pass now they go back to the debate over the issue of whether not to issue a formal resolution condemning the comments of Donald Trump. Suffice to say, lots of drama. And also just to understand again, just how absolutely crazy this whole deal is. We also earlier today, outside of the White House, Kellyanne Conway, of course, one of what's his name, spokesman, she actually said some of them said, talk about just uh nuts they had this news conference and she literally asked a reporter what was his ethnic what was his uh ethnicity

and he was like what the hell they have to do with the president's comments she essentially has issued not an initial apology but sort of backtracking from that as well just i mean just again utter craziness uh going on uh don trump you know he loves all this drama of course you know he's probably sitting in the white house happy to hear his name being talked about uh you have republicans who are coming out saying well no he's coming really weren't racist it's not what he was talking about uh we really shouldn't focus on that. But we know what the hell that was. Go back to where you came from. Let's talk about it, of course, with our panel, Dr. Jason Nichols, University of Maryland, Department of African-American Studies. We also have Kelly Bethea, Communications Strategist, and Malik Abdul, Vice President, Black Conservative Federation.

Malik, Republicans, first of all, some came out yesterday condemning Donald Trump's comments, some saying absolutely racist what he had to say. Now, well, not sure. I mean, all these different things going on. What do you what do you make of all of this drama that Donald Trump has unleashed? Well, it's, you know, I agree with Senator Scott. You know, the comments were definitely racially offensive. Some people will even call that xenophobic. You know, the thing is, is that we have to deal with, and we have this in politics a lot,

where people try to explain what someone meant, clarify a person's remarks. This is another example of such. You know, we can assume what Donald Trump meant by what he said, but we have to deal with what he actually said. And what did he say? And what he said was, is that for, and even though he didn't name names, it was clear he was talking about four women, three of whom were actually born in America. Right. And say, go back to your country. Right. And so the question that I've even been asked because, you know, I've been attacked on social media because the conservatives, you know, it's like, oh, well, you know, you're attacking Donald Trump. Well,

no, I'm not attacking Donald Trump. I'm dealing with the reality of where we are. And this is one of those instances where, unfortunately, and I get I get Donald Trump, you know, this is who he is. You know, he's 72, 73 years old. So it's probably not going to change much. My problem. He won't. Well, he won't. And most people his age won't. But what I do know, you know, in my message to not just the president, but just to conservatives in general, is that if your interest is in encouraging more black people to affiliate themselves with the Republican Party, then we have to be able to say, and we need our white conservative friends, our Republican friends also to say, OK, well, he went a little too far here.

You know, no one's going to just go. You know, you're probably not going to find very many people who are just going to go in on him. Actually, you had some folks who've gone in on him, even one Republican governor who said they were to go in on him. Actually, you had some folks who had gone in on him, even one Republican governor who said they were absolutely vile and racist. Yeah, well, when I say go in, I mean that's, I mean, because, you know, Lindsey Graham made comments that he, Senator Graham

made his comments, and of course I agree with him, you know. Oh, Senator Graham's comments were sickening. Calling him communist and that nonsense. I'm not talking about. No, he was Senator Lindsey Graham was shameful and despicable for what not talking about submitting no he was yeah senator lindsey graham was shameful and despicable for what he had to say he was gutless well that's what he was calling them communists yeah well that was pathetic unfortunately we live in we live in a climate now

where even the president is being called treasonous so the fact that dude the president actually tweeted today about launching a treason investigation because of a news brief he saw on Fox. I understand that. But my point here is that, unfortunately, that's the climate where we're in, where people say those use those type of loaded terms, phrases to really refer to each other. And you see you saw what played out on the House floor. That's just an extension of where we are. But again, you know, Donald Trump did not make this easy for us. Kelly, at the end of the day, Democrats, you see what they're doing. First of all, they have to have to stand up to bigotry, stand up to racism. Donald Trump wants to play this political, the same political playbook from 2020, from 2016. He wants to be able to say that, oh, they're hurting me. And he tweeted,

I don't have a racist bone in my body and all that sort of nonsense and see this is the thing that again is to me this is the difference if you say racist non people say racist you're not a racist no no we look at your words you say go back to your country no okay black folks latinos asian we all know what that means because it's been used against us for 400 years. We we know what that means. He can dance around this. Oh, and then some Republican.

He didn't mention race. He didn't mention anybody's name. It's like, no, that's not flying. And they should call him out for it and challenge him on it because what it's also doing is solidifying what black people knew. That's not a hashtag. We tried to tell you. We knew his ass was a racist when he ran. Y'all white folks, glad y'all finally catching up.

I would challenge that statement and say not only did black people know that he was racist, but his voting base knew that he was racist. The Republican Party knew that he was racist. He even said yesterday he didn't care if white nationalists were right with him on this because a lot of people agree with me. Yeah. White nationalists. Right. And if I'm not mistaken, Richard Bannon is a white nationalist.

And wasn't he on staff? Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon. I'm sorry,, Richard Bannon is a white nationalist. And wasn't he on Steve Bannon? Steve Bannon. I'm sorry, not Richard Bannon. But everybody knew that Trump was racist when he was on the campaign trail, before he was on the campaign trail. For those who are now aware, because they were too young to know, but the exonerated five. And we saw when they see us and what Trump was doing in New York at that time. Like, he has an entire history of xenophobia and racism.

And for people to be of the sentiment that, oh, my goodness, I can't believe he said this, it's very disingenuous to me. I'm actually pleasantly surprised that the Democratic Party said anything at all on the floor because it's been three years of him just spewing hate. And now all of a sudden it's like 2020. We want the presidency. So we're actually going to act like we're going to do something about it. The bottom line here is Democrats want to expose him for who he is. He believes in his people. All this actually helps him with his base. Look, we know who the hell his base is. But at the end of the day, Republicans are now forced to defend his words. And they're simply showing their true colors

by having to defend the racist words. We know what he said when he said, go back to the country where you came from. And when three of the four are Americansicans and then also by the way congressman ilhan omar has been an american in america longer than his own life right and then that was the point i was going to make is that i don't think that donald trump we oftentimes say that donald trump is anti-immigrant he's not anti-immigrant he's anti-black and brown immigrant right you know he got proud of white immigrants yeah he's cool he's cool with white immigrants he married two white immigrants his mother oh wait no she was marlon maples is american but either way they all look yeah they're

all the same he married two immigrants his mother was it was an immigrant from scotland his grandparents on his father's side were both immigrants he's not oh he's not he doesn't have trouble with immigrants he has trouble with black and brown immigrants. And I also think that it's not really, um, an issue with Donald Trump, us finally knowing who Donald Trump is or anybody figuring it out. I mean, if his words at Charlottesville didn't, didn't move you or his words about George, George, uh, judge Curiel didn't move you or or his words about Judge Curiel didn't move you, or his words about Mexicans in 2015 didn't move you,

you know, then all of a sudden this is the breaking point. I don't really get that. I think that... And he doesn't care. He doesn't care. He doesn't care, and his whole deal is going to be I'm going to keep saying this, I don't care. There is no bottom, and that's the thing. All these white journalists, like how how it occurs earlier.

Malik was like, well, you know, journalists need to be very careful saying that it was racist because Trump issued denial. Like his ass don't lie. I'm like 10,000. I'm like, he known to lie. You acting like, oh, well, it's a denial. So I should take into account his denial. Yeah, well, I don't I don't think that Donald Trump is a racist, and I don't think that the people who voted for him think that he was a racist.

I voted for him. You know his ass a racist. I voted for him. Malik, you know damn well he a racist. I voted for him, and I don't think that Donald Trump is a racist. Do you intend to vote for him again? In 2020, absolutely, without a doubt. So you voting for a racist?

Well, you know. Was his comment racist? Hold up. Was his comment racist? It was definitely racially offensive. What the hell is that? What the hell is that? What's the difference? What the hell is that? Can you tell me the difference between racially offensive and racist?

Well, he said things that were racially offensive. But what's the difference? I'm sorry, or insensitive or whatever you want to say. Okay, but I'm just asking, what's the distinction between racist and racially offensive? Well, I think that when we start, I think it's possible for someone to say racially offensive, homophobic things and not be actually homophobic or racist. Okay, but if you say racist things a number of times, like a number of times like like when do you become a number of times well well if we're talking about the system of racism i mean we really should you know we could have a broader discussion of what that's no we're actually no no no no we're in discussion of racism i know i'm

sure all of us know and that's why the same comments you know the things that i said on this show before you know the things that lewis farrakhan has said that were anti-semitic you know we're gonna go with lewis Farrakhan has said that were anti-Semitic, you know. Are we going to go with Louis Farrakhan? Is Louis Farrakhan president of the United States? It doesn't matter. No, it does matter. But it doesn't matter. It does matter. It's about things that we have accepted. And Louis Farrakhan over the U.S. military

does Louis Farrakhan have the nuclear codes? Does Louis Farrakhan? It doesn't matter. Louis Farrakhan gets to sit on stage. Hell no. Hell no, hell no. No, no, no. We are not about to flip. Well, of course.

No, we ain't going to flip Mr. Louis Farrakhan. We are talking about the person. But he said, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, this man is the standard bearer of your party. This man leads your party. This man controls your party. So here's my point. I've never voted for Louis Farrakhan your party. So here's my point. I've never voted for Louis Farrakhan on anything.

Because he's not a bad person. But I know many of us who've actually supported him. Nice try. First of all, come on, Jason. We ain't even going down the Farrakhan rabbit hole because it don't work. It's not a rabbit hole. It is a rabbit hole because you want us to chase. This is the question, Malik. This is the question, Malik.

You said racially charged. What the hell was it's not a racist thing at all. This is the question, Malik. This is the question, Malik. You asked me and I think you're the racist. You said racially charged. And I said, yeah. What the hell was it? What is that, racially charged? Is that what it was? How many racist statements before you become racist? That's my question.

Well, for me, it's hard to conceive someone to be racist pursuing the policies that he's pursuing. Like what? That are beneficial to black and brown people. Like what? Personally. So we're talking about the criminal justice reform package. Let me ask you a question. Hold on, hold on.

Let me ask you a question. Who instituted affirmative action? Who was that under? Oh, I don't remember. Richard Nixon. Okay. Who ran on the Southern Strategy? Was that Nixon?

Nixon. Yeah. Who also lost the war on drugs where one of his own advisors, his notes revealed that it was specifically targeted at black people that was nixon richard nixon who used who used the n-word himself who who degraded black people in recordings in oval office richard nixon so this shit don't mean nothing about affirmative action if his other actions were also race-based. So to say that, oh, well, the First Step Act, let me be clear, the First Step Act ain't an act for black people.

It's an act for anybody in federal prison. Well, it's part of a criminal justice reform package. And so if we're judging him by the same standard that Obama and any other president... So his immigration policy helps black and brown people? Well, you mean black people who are here? Black and brown people? Well, black, you mean black people who are here? Black and brown people. You're saying that his immigration policy, TPS, sending Haitians back to a place that was violent and where they had.

Well, no, I don't. Hold on, hold on. Not just Haitians. I don't. I don't. Also trying to cut the rug underneath from Liberians who were in this country, calling those countries shithole countries, Making it clear that he wanted more visas for white immigrants.

But I don't think the immigration policies So I understand you disagree with that. I'm not, no one's calling you a racist. I don't think the immigration policies

are racist. When does someone become racist? If they made several racially offensive statements. You know, when honestly, it's like,

if you cheat on your girlfriend once, when do you become a cheater? If you've cheated 17 times, you know, when can we call a spade a spade? That's my question. You can, but I think we use. OK, so he's a racist. But do we agree?

But but no, we don't agree. And and I don't agree with the comments that John Lewis said, because John Lewis also said similar comments about John McCain. And of course, we say what? Well, what? Hold on. You say what? You don't remember the comments that John Lewis. said similar comments about John McCain. And, of course, we're talking about it. Hold on. Say what? You don't remember the comments that John Lewis said? What did he say? He said that voting for John McCain would take us back to the days of George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse. Any what line?

So now you're talking about it. If you are advancing voter suppression policies, you're taking us back to George Washington. Is that what John is doing? Nice try. Nice try, Malik. Because he said the same thing about Mitt Romney. Nice try, but this is real simple. You voted for a racist?

Yeah. You're going to vote for a racist again? I'm going to vote for him in 2020. Right. And the reality is, what that says is, you don't give a damn what he has to say about black people. Well, that's your opinion. No, that's what it's really. And I'm going to die black.

So the fact that you. Yeah, but you also got a problem with your Mississippi Confederate flag. But you're not going to challenge my blackness on this show. No, I'm not. Because you can't tell me what I'm concerned about as a black man. You can't tell me what I'm concerned about as a black man, or I can't be concerned about black people because I'm voting for Donald Trump.

So, no, that's not your fight. Well, that's your opinion. And that's what you know. It's a fact. Well, that's your opinion. That's your opinion. And I just disagree with you. So, yes, I'm going to vote for him in 2020 to fight whatever you or anybody else is saying

about him. And that's undeniable. All right, y'all, let's go to Baton Rouge, and arrests have been made in the death of Sadie Roberts Joseph. 38-year-old Ronnie Bale was a tenant in one of Roberts Joseph's rental properties and was behind on his rent. Bale is a registered sex offender in Louisiana. According to online records, he's being held at the East Baton Rouge Parish Jail on charges of being a fugitive from justice

and for failure to meet the requirements of a sex offender registration. Bail will be charged with first degree murder and the death of Roberts Joseph. You recall she was found in the trunk of a car last Friday. A Louisiana coroner ruled her cause of death a homicide due to traumatic asphyxia, including suffocation. So we certainly keep you abreast of what's going on in that case. Speaking of somebody who's in jail, R. Kelly, ordered to be held without bail today as the federal prosecutors describe him, quote, as an extreme danger to the community, especially to minor girls.

That took place at a hearing in U.S. District Court in Chicago. Federal prosecutors handed down two indictments that threatened to put Kelly behind bars for the rest of his life. In Brooklyn and Chicago, Kelly faces a combined 18 counts for alleged crimes against 10 victims. He faces a maximum prison sentence of 195 years in Chicago alone, and some charges carry a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years. The singer faces decades more in New York. Kelly already faced state charges that could put him behind bars for up to 30 years. He's been locked up in Chicago's downtown Metropolitan Correctional Center since federal agents arrested him while he walked his dog around 7 p.m. on Thursday.

And the judges rule he will stay in jail until his trial begins. Folks, Kelly got some problems, some major, major legal problems. Fix your mic, it fell. Kelly, go ahead. And my thing is he should have had problems at least a decade ago, a decade and a half ago, because this isn't new information. We knew that he was a predator. We knew that he was a rapist. We knew that he was a pedophile and a hebephile.

Well, you can know, but you had to prove it. And the reality is in the previous case of the jury, they made it clear that was him in the video, but they cannot ascertain as to what the age of the young girl who was in the videotape, that's how he was found not guilty. Right. And, you know, from a personal standpoint, it just felt like they were splitting hairs on that. I understand the fairness of it all, but no, they were splitting hairs. They had in order for them to convict. No, no, no. I understand the fairness of it all. No, they weren't splitting hairs. In order for them to convict him, they had to determine if she was actually underage. The problem is one family member said, that was

my niece, this was her age. Other family members testified that that wasn't her. Right, and it was reasonable doubt. I totally get that part. I'm just saying from a non-legal mindset of just being court of public opinion, it just hurt as somebody who knew that he was just a bad guy.

That's the problem. The court of public opinion ain't the court of law. Of course. And the reality is that's the issue. With the difference here, because of the documentary, which you now have, Jason, more and more people who are coming forward, They also have additional videotapes. And so it's not it's not the same case. Plus, that was a different charge.

It was a different charge. See, everybody can talk about double jeopardy. No, it was. It was a different indictment in his previous trial. So they literally can use the same video and charge him with a different indictment. It doesn't cause double jeopardy. And what you also have, because of the transporting of underage girls, now you have human trafficking. That's what the feds are looking at. Go ahead.

Federal crime. Yeah. So he's in a whole heap of trouble. Couldn't happen to a more deserving person, seemingly. He's entitled to a fair trial. But again, he is somebody who, you know, anecdotally, I know people from Chicago and it was well known in Chicago that he was targeting young girls. But at the same time, it does not look good for him. I think that R. Kelly is going to be singing on a prison yard very soon. Next thing is what happened with Jeffrey Epstein is he's going to get bail.

Yeah, I did. Yeah. I don't know what the judge is going to do in that case, particularly with R. Kelly. I mean, these are things that we have heard in our community for years. And we're talking I'm talking about going back at least into the 90s, the stories of R. Kelly, whether it's his relationship with Aaliyah or any of the other rumors or allegations that were swirling around. So the fact that he's now, so many years later, what I think actually getting is just desserts, you know. I don't think he's going to have it easy.

He shouldn't have it easy. Whatever problems he's had, you know, I don't think he's going to have it easy. He shouldn't have it easy. Whatever problems he's had, you know, and he's had time over the years to actually correct the behavior, but it doesn't seem like that that's happened at all. I don't know when. Because he's sick. Well, you know. You ain't correcting Jack when you got off and when you,

I mean, look, you're going to keep doing it. I don't know anybody else. Yeah, yeah. I don't accept you sick. Hell, Jeffrey Epstein got 13 months and was able to go walk freely, and he held he would still continue doing what he was doing. That ain't changing. Yeah, no, I agree 100%.

Oh, sorry. Go ahead. No, I agree 100%, and I don't accept that he or Jeffrey Epstein is sick. You know, there are people who are actual pedophiles, who, you know, go after prepubescent children. Those people are mentally sick. They have a mental illness. Got it. But someone who goes after teenage girls simply just wants power over them.

That person isn't mentally sick. That person is someone who is a despicable human being. Well, first of all, they all are sick, and they all can be criminals, and they all can go to jail. Right. That's what happens there. Going to a break right now. We come back.

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The Civil Rights Division, they wanted him to be prosecuted, but the Eastern District of New York disagreed, and Attorney General William Barr agreed with the Eastern District. This concludes the five-year investigation when it comes to the death of Eric Garner. Barr made the final decision in this case. Of course, again, a sad state. A grand jury on Staten Island also declined to indict Pantaleo in Garner's death. But the officer was the subject of a departmental trial earlier this year. We're still waiting to hear from the administrative judge as to whether or not she is going to recommend to Police Commissioner James O'Neill,

who will decide if Pantaleo keeps his job. Are we shocked? No, no. You know, that's kind of we know that there generally is when it comes to federal charges, especially against police. It's a rare thing. But to have the Civil Rights Division say, yes, go forward. Yeah. But and then have the Eastern District say no. Yeah. That's also, again, quite interesting there. Yeah. And I think, um, as I've been going back and reading, there seems to have been, even when Obama was in office, there was some disagreement on whether or not, you know, some people believe that they should press forward and some people didn't. The overall theme was what I read is that there was some, uh, most people actually did not believe that they would be able to win the case, you know, not just bring

the charges. You know what? I'm sorry, Kelly, that that pisses me off. OK, there's no guarantee you're going to win a trial. Damn it. Sometimes take your ass to court and at least try. Oh, and that's your job, man. I mean, it's not like, hey, we can't get a guarantee wins. We're not going to do it. Yeah, it's incredibly lazy. I don't understand, you know, from a legal perspective how that's not, you know, misconduct on some level when you know that you have something to present to a judge. Right. That is enough for a trial. And, frankly, you don't know what a jury is going to say or do.

So you're already hedging your bets against yourself before the trial even starts. This is one area. I don't think I rarely disagree with Roland, but I disagree because that goes both ways. Well, you know, in terms of, you know, going out there and stretching yourself, trying to get convictions against people when you really don't have a mountain of evidence. You know what I mean? I'm not saying that that's the case here. But wait a minute.

Hold up. That happens every day. There literally are folks who... And that's problematic. No. You don't have the evidence to convict somebody. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's be real clear.

Let's be real clear. First of all, the standard in a criminal child trial is beyond a reasonable doubt. Federal civil rights charges and civil are different. It's not the same legal standard. Proponents of evidence. Precisely. It's lower. All I'm saying is I don't understand this idea.

Well, we can't guarantee a victory so we're not gonna try that to me it's dumb not well so okay are you if you're using the word guarantee then yes that's literally what okay that's literally there's never a guaranteed victory no damn no no you're saying that it's more likely than not if you're really the art that the evidence is not going to necessarily get you a victory. But here's the deal, though. You don't know that. You don't know. You don't know it until you present it before a jury. And there's also a difference between not. I would rather you try than not try.

And there's also a number one. Number one, that would be a waste of resources. If you know that you can't win. That's the thing. If you're like, this is not a winnable case. Okay, no, no, no, no. That's correct. Civil Rights Division said, proceed. Eastern District said, don't proceed.

Clearly, a difference of opinion among lawyers. Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee, I did the town hall for the CBC about three years ago. She said the same thing. She said, I'm sorry. Can y'all make the effort, Kelly, to try? And that's the difference. So there's a difference between not having enough evidence to go to trial because there was enough evidence for him to be indicted. You know, there was enough evidence for some step to go forward. So an indictment indicates that you have enough evidence to go to trial. So they're just choosing not to go to trial. For example, I know a lot of people that have gone,

and again, this is a little bit different. I understand state and federal and all those kinds of things, those differences. But there are often times where the state realizes that they can't win in state trials. They go forward with it, you know, and they just try to get a plea. And it's punitive against people, and it's unfair. You damn, hold up.

You goddamn right. Be punitive against this asshole who killed Eric Garner. But all I'm saying is, what I'm saying is. If you don't have the evidence to win. No. See, okay, how do you... Do you know how many cases where they have tried and they thought they had mounds

of... The folks who tried R. Kelly said, yo, we got a videotape showing his ass having sex peeing on an underage girl. They... Before... When the jury came back sam adams his attorney said robert we did the absolute best that we could that's what he said because

sam adams thought we are dead jury said not guilty oh, hell. Hell, Kardashian was shocked when the jury said, not guilty for OJ. But guess what? You tried. What I'm saying is, not even going to trial, you don't even get a chance to even present any evidence. To me, this is no different than a DAI. We couldn't get an indictment from the grand jury. There was nothing that we can do. I mean, the grand jury

wouldn't do it. And I admit ignorance in this area, so I don't know law like that. But, you know, I don't know of how common it is when a jury isn't able to convict that then their federal, like, someone charged for federal civil rights

violations, I don't know if there's a standard where if they're not convicted by a jury then they, you know, provide the time to get to it. I just want you to try. I just want you to try. Here's what I want.

What I want is for Eric Garner to have his day in court no i agree what i want is for evidence to be presented so the public can see it i want testimony i want a jury of his peers to render a decision what i don't want is for somebody sitting in the room going ah well you know i don't really see how we can get a guarantee. I think it was a little more than that. I was reading that they actually did consider the evidence and I think the chokehold watching the video at that time. So there was other things that they considered other than.

Right. But it feels like even with all of that. I mean, I'm with you in heart. Right. No, but even with that knowledge, it still sounds like you're trying the case within yourself and not presenting it to a court. And Kelly, CBC members who I've talked to over the years have said they want to see DOJ get some damn heart and try.

And it's like, because here's the real deal. Ninety-seven percent is the conviction rate for federal prosecutors. Ninety-seven percent. Do you know why? Because really what they do is they say, okay, we got all this other stuff. We're going to force you to plead guilty. Let me remind you, the cop who killed Walter Scott

took a plea deal over the federal civil rights charges. Let me roll it back. It was a hung jury when it came to the state. But when it came to the federal civil rights trial, he went, they might send my ass to prison. Right. He took a plea deal. All I'm saying is, when you say, ah, we're not going to move forward, that cop choked Eric Garner. No, there's no question about it.

Choked whole. And they didn't indict in Staten Island, at least attempt to have a dadgum jury trial. But that's the case there, folks. Tomorrow, we're going to talk to the mother of Eric Garner. Tomorrow is the fifth anniversary of Eric Garner's murder. Today, Meek Mill and his attorneys appeared in court asking the appeals court to overturn a 2008 drug and gun conviction that has kept the rapper on probation for a decade. You recall Meek Mill and his attorneys believe that the judge deciding his case, Janice Brinkley, his sister, had a longstanding vendetta against him. The hearing ended without a ruling from the Supreme Superior Court panel. Meek's lawyers and the district attorney's office both iterated.

They believe the rapper deserves a new trial. Van Jones is one of the folks there to support him. This is what he had to say outside the courtroom audio okay guys all right so please uh y'all can if y'all can fix that let me know i'm gonna read the next story we'll come back to that let me know that's fixed donald watkins jr folks sentenced to 27 months in prison by u.s district judge for his role in defrauding more than 15 million bucks from investors in masada and other ventures with his father attorney donald watkins senior he was earlier sentenced to a five-year term watkins senior legendary uh attorney out of alabama now living in atlanta his father also

longtime head of hbcu very prominent family his brother levi watkins was uh a uh a major surgeon at johns hopkins university and so the the watkins family very well known among those investors charles barkley who said he lost up to eight million dollars stolen from him uh defrauded defrauded by watkins both of them defended They actually represented themselves in court. You knew right then they were going down in flames. We have the Van Jones comment, folks. OK, no audio of the Van Jones comment. Oh, no. How did that happen? All right. So let's do this here. Let's do this here. OK, I'm going to not talk about this next story, which is actually this. You might remember this story, which is crazy. This is a crazy story here. And that is the 2009 Atlanta cheating scandal.

Of course, there's a new documentary called One Child Left Behind Exams, the 2009 cheating scandal. Here is an excerpt of that documentary. People often ask me, what did this verdict cost? It cost everything. The legal system tried to kill me. I mean, it literally tried to destroy every aspect of my life. I was like, oh boy, we win a fight.

It was real. In every way, I was murdered. A wrecking ball came into the city. It didn't care who it hurt, what the consequences were. They simply wanted somebody to pay. But watch them with handcuffs being processed? My God, you're talking about educators. We worked 14, 16 hours a day for kids.

No, trying to convince me to say I cheated. I will die before I stand up and say I did something I didn't do. I'll die first. I had to make a decision to cheat or not to cheat. I made the wrong decision. It was one of the biggest scandals ever to rock American schools. There is a hell of a belief. Pedro Nogueira talks about it as the normalization of failure.

That means you don't think black students could learn. This is never about children. This is about a power grab for educational funds in the state of Georgia. The Republican governor says, let me take over these failing school districts. Well, the districts are failing because you're underfunding these schools by a billion dollars a year. The cheating scandal was not about education at all. It was about changing public perception of public schools. You made them distrust educators.

Then you have to have other people come in to save them from themselves. We wanted to get at the truth. Now, were we interested in putting some of the higher-ups in jail? Yes. They needed to go to jail. There were 256,779 answers that were changed from the wrong answer to the right answer. At this Georgia courthouse, you'd think they were indicting mobsters with charges like racketeering and theft. The bail bondsman said to me, you would have been better off if you shot somebody.

All I want from any of these people is just to take some responsibility. But they refuse. They refuse. Those same people who hurt children, got to understand and say, I hurt children. And everybody believed them. You need to watch out. This is the plan, to take the funding and to take the schools. Unless people know the real history of what happened in Atlanta and why, we're going to see these same kind of situations continue in other cities.

The truth truly needs to be told. Don't put your blame on me. Well, joining us right now is producer Dr. Jody Gomes and also in the documentary, Dr. Dana Evans. Jody, I want to start with you. I mean, we all remember this trial. And there was so much drama. You had the issue of education. You had race.

You had power. And you had black folks who were saying, wait a minute, these are black educators hurting our children. What made this something that you said, you know what, we really got to hone in on and do this documentary? Well, thank you, Roland, for having us on. You know, when I heard the verdicts in this trial, I was working for the Jackson family, and I had just finished going through the Michael Jackson trial. And Conrad Murray got three years for what I felt was killing the most famous man in the world. And shortly thereafter, these educators were convicted of upwards of 30 years in prison. And I couldn't, it just didn't sit right with me that, yes, there was a crime committed,

but I wanted to question and do a deep dive on whether the punishment fit the crime. You know, whether there was cheating or not, I didn't know at that point when I first started getting into the deep dive. But once we got into... Go ahead. And once you got in, what did you come away with? Once we got in, we found, away once we got it we found we did indeed find that there were pockets of cheating we did indeed put people on camera that attested to

cheating and why they cheated and i felt it was more important for us to get into the why and the why truly was because a lot of these schools when it came to the high stakes testing they were underfunded to begin with kids were coming into school, not being able to read at a first and second grade level. And of course, we're talking about public schools at this point. And so people were left with terrible choices. And of course, some people made the wrong decisions. And admittedly, in our film, there's some people that said, listen, I made the wrong decision. Had I known cheating, I knew it was immoral, but had I known cheating was illegal, I would not have done it.

But in the meantime, a lot of those people who claim they cheated and admitted to cheating and or took a plea deal for cheating still felt like they were not doing justice to the children because they were still teaching the kids, but just were deciding not to teach to test. They were teaching the kids and cheated on the test to put them forward, to keep their schools from closing.

But Dr. Dan Evers, I want to bring you in, but the issue that a lot of people raise, and which I understand, is I get folks saying they want to keep schools open. But what you were dealing with, though, is you were kids who were being moved forward who actually weren't learning, who actually were not being educated.

And so they were going through a system that was passing them, and they were being put at a disadvantage because once they washed out of the system, that was it. They had no other shot at life. So, can I talk now? Yes, go ahead. That's a misconception as it relates to particularly

at Dobbs. This was a test that was given one time at the end of the school year, and it didn't determine whether or not you were promoted to the next grade. I think that is something that the media has purported, which doesn't actually mean it's not true. Now, I'm not saying in any way that cheating is right or justifying it. I think it's wrong. And I believe that people who cheated didn't believe in children or didn't believe in their ability to move children at high levels. I don't have those beliefs. I believe in African American children. I'm an African American. My son is an African American child. And. I believe in African-American children. I'm an African-American. My son is an

African-American child. And so I believe in our ability to achieve. But what happens is you get a test on the end of the school year. The next year you come back and we assess all throughout the school year, whether or not you were in getting tutoring or whether or not you were getting remedial assistance was not dictated by this one test score. And we were able to show that in court, that we produced 300 pieces of evidence. And particularly at my school, I was a brand new principal. It was my first year as a principal there. And I came and made a lot of changes. And those changes resulted in people being terminated, who hurt children, people who didn't teach, and a lot of other things. And I think it was retaliatory.

But we got the Chamber of Commerce Award. I started a GED program at the school for parents in the community. We provided – I wrote a million-dollar grant for Dobbs. We had Saturday school. We had before-school tutorial. We had after-school tutorial. We had intervention groups throughout the day. And so I vehemently just reject the notion that children were academically hurt on my watch.

That did not happen. But let me ask you this question. Okay. I'm going to come back to Jody as well. If folks were cheating on tests, what would the penalty be for a student if they cheated on a test? So there were actually there are actually children who cheat on tests every day. I know that's what I'm saying. What's the penalty? So they would probably retake the test or they would get a zero for that test they would fail it if it's

the CRCT that portion of the CRCT would be eliminated like say they were on social studies for example they would not score for social studies but then come in and take the test for the other areas but is it but is it an accurate point but is it a point isn't the point that adults should know better? Absolutely. Absolutely. And when you talk about harm, moral harm or ethical harm, I believe was done to children. Because children look up to teachers.

And you're teaching them how to respond more than just reading and math and social studies. You're teaching them how to be a productive member of society. And so when people break that, there is harm to children in that degree. I agree with that. But this idea that because someone gave someone the answers on the test, that this person will now, as Judge Baxter tried to say, no, I'll even quote Fonny Willis, one of the district attorney's office said, now these people are going to be strippers and prostitutes. Really? I think that that's a large jump. Jody, that is not even substantiated by facts.

Right. Jody, I want to bring you in, bring you back in. The thing that the thing that jumped out for me was, first of all, I when folks were convicted, I had no issue with that. But I also argued that I did not believe that there should have been jail time. Because I believe that when you have to assess a person's risk, you have to assess the cost to the state. And that made no sense to me. In your research, as you were going through this, what jumped out at you? What surprised you the most? What caused you to say, yo, what was a wild moment for you?

Well, there were a couple of wild moments. And first, I want to say I'm glad Dr. Evans is on here because we did a lot of research to find people that testified against some of these educators. There was a system of retaliation. We looked high and low for Dana Evans in particular to find anybody that could say she cheated, knew about cheating, or instructed anybody to cheat. And we could not find anybody that could come up with that valid answer that as we peel back the layers of the onions, we could poke holes in their stories as much as her story was put on trial. So I just want to say that we did our homework

in ethically finding out before we put anybody's story in this film, we wanted to find out, did you or did you not cheat? And of course, a lot of these people are under appeal and testified in my film for the first time, and I'm honored for that. But one of the wow moments for me personally was this wasn't just happening in Atlanta. It wasn't just happening in Georgia. There were other school districts in Texas, in Washington, D.C., in Chicago, in Georgia alone that were non-Black districts that had worse cheating statistics

and did not rise to the level of criminality that was found in Atlanta. And I want to say that again. They had worse cheating statistics and did not rise to the level of criminality that was found in Atlanta. And I want to say that again, they had worse cheating statistics and did not rise to the level of criminality where we were making educators, we were trying educators and convicting them under RICO charges, RICO charges for test cheating. And so that made me again, look at the underneath. I had to go to the why. Why are we here? How did somebody not pump the brakes and say, okay, perhaps they did cheat. Perhaps this is one of the worst black on black crimes. We all know education is the great Why are we here? How did somebody not pump the brakes and say, OK, perhaps they did cheat?

Perhaps this is one of the worst black on black crimes. We all know education is the great equalizer for our children. Yes, there has been a crime committed here. But isn't there a different way other than criminalizing educators to resolve not only the cheating that was going on, but the ongoing cheating that is still happening in all of these places. Marlon, you're in for a choice, and you know cheating still is taking place in a lot of places across America. Right, and I think that, you know, look, I've got sisters and a brother who were teachers who talked about, my sister, educator in Houston, talking about one of those cheating scandals, talking about kids actually being harmed. You're absolutely right. Dana, last question for you.

What do you want people, people who watch this documentary, what do you want them to come away with? I want them to come away with that. First of all, I didn't cheat, but I really want them to come away with the fact that there's a disproportionate way in which people are treated. Certain groups of people are treated in the legal system. And we have to, I mean, fight where we are with what we have with as hard as we can for truth and justice. There's a suppression of truth. There's a suppression of resources. There's a suppression of knowledge. And it disproportionately affects African-Americans in such a profound way. And I never thought in a million years that I could ever be indicted for crime. And I realize now when I see people on the television screen that everything that you see

isn't what it appears. And it was a politically motivated, well, racially fueled, politically motivated trial that I did not have the power to win. Absolutely. Dana, are you still in education or are you not allowed to be in education? So the interesting part about that is I had a professional standards commission hearing recently for my my license. And the judge wrote a big, you know, we went to the same thing. And she said that there was no real evidence to substantiate the claims that I cheated. And I thought it's interesting that the professional standards commission could not revoke my license for teaching because there was not enough evidence to substantiate it. But the court of law could put me in jail for the same thing. So technically, I have my license, but I, no, I don't work in education. I don't think the Atlanta Journal and Constitution would allow me to. If I tried it, it would be horrible.

So I'm working, but not in that field. Jodi, final comment. I just want people to understand the perils of high-stakes testings as it relates to marginalized schools and schools that are struggling. A test that happens in Beverly Hills, a child that has all the resources in Beverly Hills is not going to test the same as a child that has a lack of resources, has a lack of educators, has a lack of food on a daily basis. And we need to look at public education as a whole as to how we got to this spot in time, you know, in education. I just think education is the great equalizer for our children. And I think this film takes a deeper dive at the look as to how we got to a place where we're criminalizing educators when we should be upholding them and supporting them to help our children advance through life. Jodi, when does it air? We are actually on the festival circuit right now.

We're winning jury awards and best documentary awards at top 25 festivals and at Academy Award qualifying festivals. We just won at abff for the jury prize um we have our atlanta premiere in august 25th and then we should be streaming nationwide this fall just in time for back to school all right uh dana evans dr jody gong appreciate it thanks a lot thank you thank you all right then folks um let's talk about of course my folks at uh 420 real estate of course, my folks at 420 Real Estate. Of course, they're back. MarijuanaStock.org has another great investment opportunity.

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everybody else, Kelly's now been officially condemned by the United States House of Representatives. And now I'm curious to see what the Democratic Party is about to do next. Condemnation is a start. But what does that actually do in terms of his presidency? Like until he's impeached, until he resigns, until, you know, that entire administration is no longer in power. I don't see, you know, what I don't see anything else beneficial happening. I think this is just pomp and circumstance, which is good because it's on the record. But beyond that, you know, I just want more. It's been too long. Here's what's interesting here, Jason. Here, go to my iPad.

This is a graphic of the votes, folks. 235 Democrats. Four Republicans agree with the resolution. One independent. Total votes, 242, 187. Yeah, I mean, we knew it was going to break down in a partisan way. The Republicans, at least we can see that four Republicans had a spine and were willing to call. And those four Republicans go to my iPad, please.

Congressman Will Hurd, Texas, only African-American Republican in the U.S. House. Representative Upton, Michigan. Representative Fitzpatrick, Pennsylvania. Representative Brooks from Indiana. And I think Justin Amash is now an independent, so that may be that one independent vote. So really, five Republicans voted for it. I still think it says something that all Republicans did not stand with Donald Trump, that they stood there and said that these were racist comments.

No, absolutely. Trump, that they stood there and said that these were racist comments. No, absolutely. And like I said, I think, you know, it should be applauded. I think it's a little late. You know, I think that Republican, the Republican Party should have checked him a long time ago. I think many of them are intimidated by Donald Trump and his loud base. I would agree or I would argue that his base isn't necessarily super large. I just think it's super loud and they are afraid and they should know from what happened with the Tea Party that they shouldn't let loud people control them and be able to call out something when it's wrong.

Speaking of weak Malik, Senator Marco Rubio, this is what he had to say about the whole deal. Four months ago, after Representative Omar suggested Jews are not loyal Americans, not true, House Democratic leaders refused to vote on a resolution singularly condemning her words or anti-Semitism. Now they have no problem voting the resolution labeling the president a racist. Talk about a week. He couldn't even condemn what Trump had to say. And that's also what's interesting. These different Republicans, they want to bring up everything else in the world except actually what Trump said. Yeah, I mean, this is, it isn't surprising to me.

It isn't surprising that a House run by Democrats passed a resolution condemning the president and that almost all Republicans voted against it. You know, I don't know what the numbers were with the, well, I guess they never got to a number with the Omar resolution. I don't think they mentioned her at all. But if there was a vote on that, I can pretty much bet that Republicans would be in favor of it and Democrats wouldn't. So, you know, unfortunately, this is kind of where we are.

I do think that, you know, what we saw on the floor today, it didn't, you know, I wasn't happy about the president's remarks. But what I saw on the floor today was something else I do not like about our political system at all. What's that? Well, the comments, apparently, I'm sure Nancy Pelosi knew that she wasn't supposed to. No, I'm sorry. Nancy Pelosi ran her comments by the parliamentarian before she delivered them. The parliamentarian greenlit her comment. Well, it seemed like Representative Cleaver, he was. Yeah, Congressman Cleaver was.

It seemed as if he had a different opinion. No, no, that's not what happened. That's not what happened. Collins of Georgia objected, wanted her comments stricken from the record. And because he literally acted a fool on the back and forth, that's what pissed Cleaver off and why he said, I'm out of here. That's what actually happened. But when you get to the point of, I mean, when you're on the floor calling the president a racist,

you can't expect the Republicans are going to join you in that effort. I mean, five did. Well, yeah, but five out of how many? Well, first of all, first of all, first of all, the let me reiterate, OK, the only black Republican in the United States House from Texas, former CIA officer, had the guts to call Donald Trump what exactly what it was. But it shouldn't surprise us that, you know, very few Republicans criticize. No, no, no, no. I'm not speaking to very few Republicans. What I'm saying is Congressman Will Hurd did something, Texas A&M graduate,

that frankly other black Republicans wouldn't do. He showed guts. Well, he's the only representative. No, no, no, no, no. Let me say it again. Congressman Will Hurd could have easily voted with the rest of his party. Yes, he could. What I'm saying is Congressman Will Hurd did what a lot of black Republicans don't have the guts to do. But they're not politicians. I'm sorry, but you brought up Lewis Farrakhan earlier.

He wasn't a politician. Yeah, but we're talking about a vote on the floor, though. They can't vote on the floor. So if we're saying that those people can actually, that he did something that other black Republicans aren't doing, he's the only one there that actually has a vote. Precisely. And that was the surprise when we make it earlier, when you try to use Farrakhan as your example. Go ahead. Go ahead. Is there anything that President Trump can do that would affect your vote, that you would not cast a vote in 2024, President Trump? I don't know. It hasn't happened yet.

I can't say that. It hasn't happened yet. So there's essentially nothing he can do. That's not what I said. I said I don't know. So the answer to your question is that I don't know. He could do something that terribly offends me, and then that would make me consider not doing it. So the many racist things he's done have not terribly offended you? No, they haven't offended me where I wouldn't support him.

No, they haven't. Wow. There you have it. I mean, were you expecting a different answer? Let me say it again. We all heard Texan, my home state, has a ring just like I do. Texan, I'm a graduate. Black Republican.

Showed guts by first calling out don trump's comments on yesterday and today standing up and actually voting with the democrats well i could why why no no let me real clear malik you criticizing him is irrelevant when you all know no no no no allow me allow to finish. You did not criticize him. You danced. You did not call it what it is. You tried to use it was racially charged. And I said I don't agree with the comments.

No, no, no. I thought it was an art of force to actually bring people to the park. No, but what Congressman Will Hurd did is he called it what it is. Right, okay. He didn't dance. And that, folks, is the difference. And so let me get people to understand what is going on here. And I did this in my commentary yesterday. I need you to understand what Donald Trump desperately needs is to gin up his white base. What Donald Trump is trying to do is to get his white base, his white conservative base, to say, oh, look at him.

They're mistreating our Donald because he needs them to vote in significant numbers. Now, Malik can give him his vote. Don't ask me why, but it's pathetic. But the man is pathetic. It's pathetic. It's pathetic. It's pathetic. First of all, right.

And guess what? My answer, you have a choice and you have a choice to vote. It's not I have a choice to call it pathetic. And here's why. And here's why. And here's why. And here's why it's pathetic. Here's why it's pathetic, because this is a man who has no decency. This is a man who does not respect the office of the president. This is a man who cannot conduct himself with proper decorum. This is a man who mistreats people of color, who calls shit whole countries, who has trashed on nations where there are people of color.

He has shown his true colors. Donald Trump does not care. What he wants is and I keep telling you all this is about white fear. He wants to scare the bejesus out of white folks across America, mainly in red states, Midwestern states, by saying, I'm the only guy who can protect your way of life. When Republicans say, oh, people in middle America don't care about this stuff. They ain't talking about you. I lived in Chicago six years. They ain't talking about black people in Chicago or East St. Louis or Minneapolis. No, they're talking about white conservative voters.

That's his base. Do you know how you beat Donald Trump? Is if black folks, Latinos, white folks of conscience mobilize and organize. This man has done nothing to deserve four more years. He has embarrassed this nation. Forbes released their piece today on the 50 most respected leaders in the world. Donald Trump ain't on the list. The world doesn't respect America because of the person who is sitting in the Oval Office. You can tweet, you can post on Facebook. It don't mean a damn thing if you're not registered. It don't mean a damn thing if you don't vote. If we truly want to make America great again, throw his ass out of office November 2020. Folks, you want to support Roller Martin Unfiltered? Go to RollerMartinUnfiltered.com. Join our Bring the Funk fan club.

This is the only place you're going to get the real commentary, the real discussion, as opposed to some of these other mainstream outlets. They make excuses for Trump. We don't make excuses for him. I told y'all, if America had listened to black people, Trump would have never been president. Hashtag, we tried to tell you. I got to go. I'll see you tomorrow. Holla! I know a lot of cops.

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Sometimes as dads, I think we're too hard on ourselves. We get down on ourselves on not being able to, you know, we're the providers, but we also have to learn to take care of ourselves. A wrap-away, you got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else, but we also have to learn to take care of ourselves. A wrap-away, you got to pray for yourself as well as for everybody else, but never forget yourself. Self-love made me a better dad because I realized my worth. Never stop being a dad. That's dedication. Find out more at fatherhood.gov. Brought to you by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Ad Council. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast.

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