#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 7th Anniversary of #RolandMartinUnfiltered, 4 Years of Black Star Network, Ivey on Guard & Epstein

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

9.4.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: 7th Anniversary of #RolandMartinUnfiltered, 4 Years of Black Star Network, Ivey on Guard & EpsteinIt's Thursday, September 4, 2025. Do you know what day it is? It's our anniversary! We are celebrating seven years of Roland Martin Unfiltered and four years of the Black Star Network. We have a packed house in the studio tonight for this special occasion.Here's what's coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network.We have some guests from our premiere show, and we will showcase some of our best, most unforgettable, and most-viewed moments.Maryland Congressman Glenn Ivey will join us to discuss the National Guard deployment, the possibility of a government shutdown, and the infamous Epstein files.#BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbaseThis Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing.Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV.The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yes, it is the 7th anniversary of Rolla Martin Unfilter, the fourth anniversary of Black Star Network. And so we're going to have several people who were on our first show seven years ago, including Bishop William Barber, Linda Sarsour, and others. We've got our all-star panel in studio. Lots to break down. Folks, it's time to bring the funk. I'm rolling back on the filtered on the Black Star Network. Let's go.

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Martin. Folks, coming up next on the inaugural edition of Roland Martin unfiltered drama on Capitol Hill as Senate Democrats and Republicans clashed on the first day of Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Christian Clark, the Lawness Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, who was in the hearing room, will join us live. A black woman who has mistakenly voted in Texas and headed to prison. Yes, prison. She and her attorney are going to join us live as well. He has picked up the mantle of Dr. King's Poor People's Campaign. The Reverend Dr. William Barbara will join us live to discuss that

and why it's time to end voter apathy, especially among black folks headed into the midterm election. We'll also recap the homegoing celebration of Aretha Franklin and discuss why her family is blasting the eulogy delivered by Atlanta Pastor Jasper Williams, Jr. Plus, Colin Kaepernick and Nike, they've got conservatives in an uproar over making him the face of Nike's 30th anniversary of their Just Do It campaign.

And, of course, Black Twitter will be on fire tonight for the first night of BT's miniseries on Bobby Brown. Folks, it's time to bring the funk. I'm Roland Martin unfiltered. Let's go. Folks, a whole lot has changed since that first show, literally across the street. That's where we were. a totally different show, new look, new studio, all that good stuff.

It was a whole bunch of stuff we could not afford seven years ago, so everything looks a lot different now. So it's been amazing seven years, more than 40,000 people have joined our Brenda Funk fan club, Friday donations, making it possible for us to do this show. The show was launched with one sponsor, the American Federation of State and County Municipal Employees, as a sponsor, of course, $350,000 of my own money,

and we launched this thing, and a lot of people said it was not going to work. I remember the YouTube people, when they were funding a lot of efforts, they literally said, hey, we don't think black news is going to work. And I was like, all right, we're going to show y'all. So here we are, seven years later, with 1.85 million followers in the YouTube top 100 podcast every week, but two weeks since they launched that. And so I think actually it's worked.

And so, and even now, seven years later, we still are the only daily news show that centers African-Americans in the country. One of the first guests that we had that first episode was Bishop William Barber. Of course, co-covener repairs of the Breach Poor People's Campaign. He joins us right now. Bishop, always glad to have you back. Again, a lot

of people said it wasn't going to work, but again, we remain focused and faithful and here we are. Well, you know, that song, they said I wouldn't make it, but you still here today, brother. And not only just here, but here making a difference, and I want to say right off the bat,

there's a thousand preachers out there, know, particularly the benefit from what you do, I'm going to give $1,000 today, commit to that, and $1,000 do that, that's a million dollars. We have got to understand how important what Roland has done, not for himself. He could have done something else, but he does this for the call, for the people. I went back today, Roland, I did two things. First of all, I said, I'm going to put on a suit for the anniversary, you know. I'm going to get a little fly.

I want to let you know you ain't only going to get fly, brother. And then I said, I wanted to go back to W.B. DeB. Du Bois said, look, you've got to have black media to two, number one, to empower the black community. Because if not, you get beat down so much. You don't even believe you can do things. Number two, to counter anti-blackness. To counter anti-blackness, you do this every day. And then number three, to humanize the people, to humanize the struggle with. There are people that you've had on this show. nobody else would have had them on. They would not have had anywhere else that they could.

I remember when you brought the people on from Cancer Alley. Now that, you know, they're on other places. In fact, one of the ladies who's one of the founders of St. James, the fight down there. She's in Rome today, but potentially meeting with the Pope. But she came on this shelf first. And then the last thing is to ensure a diverse perspective.

It was black media, y'all, that first told us that COVID was airborne. That was the first people It was black media It was rolling and others telling us Wait a minute There's something else going on here While some people were saying

Well, black people are just most acceptable To this particular What would later be a pandemic You were telling us That it's airborne, you were warning us And I want to believe That there are people who are alive today Who would not be

And there are people who died And their lives would have never been honored I remember one day Roland you let me come on and talk about a sister who lost 25 members of her family in a 30-day time spirit in Mississippi because the Mississippi

governor would not expand health care. I mean, nobody would have told that sister's story. And so Doc, look, man, I'm so glad I was thinking about 7 plus 4 is 11. 11 is a prime number. A prime number is a number you can't do nothing with, but take it. You can't divide

it. You can't divide it. It's just a prime. number. The only way you get to it is 11 time one. So now, thank you for being a prime number. And what else all jumps out, and I talk about this, Dr. King's book, where do we go from here, chaos, a community. And he said that there were four institutions prime to liberate black America. And he, one of the four, he said, the Negro press. And this is what he said. He said, too many Negro newspapers have veered away from their traditional role as protest organs agitating for social change and have turned to the sensation.

and the conservative in place of the substantive and the militant. And, you know, I've had some people stop me and they said, I had brothers who worked in the White House with a place and said, hey, man, I really think you need to do you need to add entertainment, you need to add sports to get more eyeballs. And I said,

let me tell you what happens. If you go down that pathway, then that's what you're going to focus on and news is going to get left behind. And I said, I got nothing against entertainment, nothing against sports. But if you look at the YouTube Top 100 podcast, nearly every African-American other than this show is sports and entertainment. And I said, we got too much of that already.

We got to have a place where that's all we focus on is news and information. That's right. And use the sports figures to do that. See, the difference is you'll bring somebody like Spike Leon or somebody to talk about the issues. And that's genius, brother, because we also have to make people respect our artists and our sports figures that's something other than people that can just run with a ball

or dunk a ball or they're acting that they actually have a perspective on a platform. The other piece of that role in you, so right, you know, people will tell us what we ought to do.

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Nitsa and the Ad Council. We ought to, but guess what? Sometimes those same folk, let them get in trouble who they run to. Mm-hmm. Oh, oh, trust me. I get those text messages and phone calls, and to that point, There's a reason why, in our living room set, I got Mr. B., Herr Belafonte, who had great respect for. He's one of the pieces. I've got James Baldwin, but also Aida B. Wells Barnett flanking him. And so it's not that I don't believe that artists are important, but they serve a vital role. And that's the thing that we have to understand. And I just think that when we're so fixated on if LeBron or Michael Jordan was the goat,

if we're so fixated on the latest movie or the latest song, then what stuff happens in Washington, D.C., or state capitals, county government and city halls and school boards, then we go, oh, my God, how do we not know this? It's because our attention was diverted and somewhere else. That's right. Somewhere else, and people use that to keep it somewhere else. You know, they want, even with our athletes,

they want to lock them down in contracts where they can't even speak what needs to be spoken. That's not our history. Our history is that if you look at what Jackie Robertson did, you remember when Karim Abdulrabah, James, and they got together and brought Baham and Ali in, that's the true tradition of our work, is that we are in a fight and a struggle, and we've been in one for the soul of the democracy, the soul of civilization, and we don't have time to be one-dimensional. We really don't.

We need all hands on deck. I was telling somebody just the other day, every athlete, every actor, every preacher, every person, you know, Trump did something the other day, and it kind of missed it. You talked about it when you said, listen, this man now wants to take an executive order and undermine voting rights. And I've looked at even some of the other news. They've not talked about that. They've not talked about that.

I understand the sensationalism and the necessary around, for instance, the Epstein files. But one of the things you do, you can multitask. A lot of the other media, they can't multitask. They get stuck on one thing, one perspective, and that's all they do. You have shown us over these years that, in fact, you have to multitask because when it comes to black folk and poor people and low-wage folk and other people, who are suffering in this country, in this world, they don't face just one problem at a time. They don't face one problem at a time.

They face many problems. And a lot of them, we don't have to continue to face if we can organize our power. Yep. You remember Marola when we had the conversation when everybody was talking about what couldn't be done, and we had the conversation about, listen, did you all realize that poor people,

for instance, now, and black people in Portland, low-age brown people, control 40% of the electorate. People weren't talking about that. People said, what? Is that true? Yes, it's true. Now the issue is, what do we do with that? I'm glad, that you push us, that you push the community, that you push into the community and into the consciousness, things that make people say, what in the world?

Because if we don't have that kind of conscious shaking. then we're never going to have the kind of community shifting that will be necessary to face the challenges of today. Also, where we are, and you and I talk about this a whole lot, and we know there are people who are friends of ours, who are frat brothers of ours, who hate this. We also got to have black accountability. It's a lot of people who say they represent black interests,

yet don't like to be challenged on what they're actually doing. And my philosophy has always been the same. If you do good, I'm going to talk about you. If you do bad, I'm going to talk about you. At the end of there, I'm going to talk about you. And so we've got to have accountability of folk who are out there representing the interests of black folks who meet at the White House or state capitals over the Congress and then say, okay, you promise you we're going to do this. What have you actually done? It's easy to plan an event, plan a protest, plan a march.

But I'm always like, okay, what we're doing the day after? and then the day after and the day after. And I think that's also where we have to be. Part of what King talked about and Dubois talked about it and Martin Delaney talked about it and Auduby Wells Barnett and Frederick Douglass and Robert Abbott

and John Sinstack and Louis Martin and all of pioneers in black-owned media. It was also holding black leadership accountable saying, are you representing the interests of the people and not yourself? That's exactly right. You know, I'll tell you something funny, Roland. My team that puts together media some years ago had called me and said,

we've got you going to roll. I said, I can't go on rolling tonight. And they said, why? I said, because I haven't figured out the end product. They said, well, just go on and talk about the beginning, get the headline. I said, you don't understand. They said, rolling your friend. I said, you still don't understand.

He's not going to let me get away with a headline on this show. He's going to ask me, what is this going to do? What's the end result? I'm not going on this. show until we figure that out. Now, if y'all can figure that out in the next 12 hours, then I'm going to show tomorrow. If not, then you all just wait until a few days and we get because the brother is not playing, and that's what we need. This deal of getting a headline and then moving to hell on is not what we need in these times. Our people don't need to be

played with and toyed with. Times are too serious in this civilization. I remember one time that somebody was on your show and they said something like Trump was a racist and you said, and what else? I mean, because you were like, okay, you said that, but what does that mean? Where are you going with that? Where does that get you?

What else? Are you going to not deal with the authoritarianism, the neophasism, the policies, the policies? Okay, what are you going to do in reaction, relationship, the policy? How is that going to happen? And if we don't have that role, we'll have the tendency,

even we used to talk about it in black preaching where people have a lot of gravy and no substance and no meat. And that's not the time we're in, brother. So I want a person to thank you, Doc, for making folk know, even me, that if you're going to go on the show, you better have your stuff ready.

You better be able to answer the question, and you better be able to talk about how you're going to start something and sustain it and keep it going until real change takes place. Last point here, I put this graphic up on social media today, sending out where as part of our anniversary, our goal is to get folks to give a million dollars between now and the end of the year. Let me know

when your team has that pastoral graphic ready so we can push that as well. But the point there that I've laid, we've got two new shows we're launching, a daily show, a weekly business show. We want to launch a health show. And we want to be focused in 2026 to travel this country doing the show in town halls from battleground states. You've got critical Senate races in Georgia, in North Carolina. You've got a brother running for governor in Nevada. You've got a brother running for governor in Michigan. It's a lot of different races.

And what I say is that, and you emphasize this, I do as well. We can't just tell folk, hey, we need y'all to vote. No, we have to literally be on the ground touching people, informing, educating, enlightening, but also organizing and mobilizing because, Because too much black power is sitting at home, untapped, unused, and we've got to be able to reach these folks to change what's going on. Black power in this next election, in the so-called off-year election, if we go on instead of off, if we don't listen to what the pundits say, well, you know, in the midterm, it's off-year. If we say no year is an off-year for us because we have to stay and that everything we have fought for and are fighting for is under attack. If we, and I say this everywhere, if just 65% of black folk that are already registered would vote consistently, we could flip the entire political strategy, our attitudes and atmosphere in this country.

So that's exactly what we're going to do. We're going to put that, we've already sent it out to hundreds of thousands of people. Those of you that are listening tonight, we want you to grab it from our site, grab it from here, continue to push it out. you know, let's push this way over a million dollars. I want to challenge at least a thousand people to give a thousand dollars, particularly all of those of us who are clergy, who are pastors, who could do that for this effort, for this work, for what Roland is doing on our behalf.

The brother is not doing this just for Roland. You don't take on this kind of stress and even criticism just for yourself. He literally is saying, I will not be quiet and y'all know when he said bring the funk we all know what that means that's not just about a dance floor that is about

that I'm getting in the middle of this arena and we're not playing because our people are not to be played with and the times are too serious and the issues are too important and our power is too great for it not to be unleashed and used the way it could be

indeed Bishop William Barbara appreciate it thanks for support the prayers and repairs with the Breed Court People's Campaign. It's been a consistent supporter of this show, putting your money where your mouth is, and so we appreciate that. It's a lot more work to do. I know you've got a plan to catch. I appreciate you being on the 7th anniversary show.

Thank you, my brother, 06. Yes, sir. Thanks a bunch. Folks, got to go to a break. I got a panel on there ready to chat. We'll be right back on the 7th anniversary, roller mark unfiltered, fourth anniversary for the Black Star Network. Folks, back in a moment.

Thank you so much, I love you, and I am so absolutely committed to you because of your dedication to the black community in this country. And I want you to know that you're doing the kind of work that we don't get in other places. And I appreciate it. I will support you. I'm available anytime that I can get on the program because you deserve to have the response and respect of everybody

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Thank you, dear brother, and I would hope that you would continue to get the message to the masses as you do. There are many places where I'm not welcome, but I know that I'm always welcome, and you always treat people with a great degree of dignity and respect, and it means a lot to me to know that we can get a message. the job to the masses. So thank you for helping us do this. That's right, the Cussin'Risi. Of course, Michael Brown, former member of the DNC Finance Committee in Dunbar, that little youth group. He's a member of, that's right, that's called the flyaway signal. That's what that is. Of course, my alpha brother, Dr. Mustafa, Santiago Ali, the only fraternity here, former

Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice at the EPA. Also Eugene Craig, CEO, X-Factor Media, Inc., and he is probably, Trump cusses him out more than he cusses me out. Randy, Brian, entrepreneur, author of never said, 25 phrases

you should never ever say to keep your job and friends. Shockingly, she's actually in the country. Dr. Gregg Carr, Department of African American Studies, Howard University hosts the Black Table on the Black Star Network. And, of Of course, somebody who we first met, we actually fought at a movie screening, a 12 years of slave, and they turn into a Twitter beef, and then that's how he got on the show.

So, y'all, there's no lie. I'm telling y'all, this is no lie. Plus, Greg was on our first ever roller button unfiltered seven years ago. Yep, I got the video. I'm going to play it in a little bit. And, of course, Linda Sarsour is here. Linda is, of course, an activist. She's been working on the ground all over the country and the world.

And, yeah, she probably has more people cussing her out than I do. So I'm glad to have everybody here. Let's get right into it. But first of all, I go to the story. And so I'll start this way. So I'll start with Greg. So Greg was here on the first show. And again, we told this story, y'all.

So I was moderating a panel. They had a screen of 12 years of slave. And so a sister asked me a question, and I said, I'm a free black man. And she went on, you ain't free? I was like, what the hell you think you're talking to? And so then she started going at it. And I was like, well, let's go. And so Greg was on the front row.

And so Greg started talking, so did we go social media? I was like, oh, yeah, you ain't going to sit here. Challenge Greg Carl. I was like, I don't give a. I don't know. I was like, bring his ass on the show. And he was people like, you ain't ever heard of the car? I'm like, no.

Oh, all these high with people that I was like, come on the show if you want to go. Right. That's how Greg came on the show. And Greg, you said, I'm scared. You said, I'm going to sleep. I went to the next morning, like you say, Twitter was fighting on Twitter. He fights everybody. He really is.

The world was fighting about thousands of people. I'm like, you know, I've known that young lady since she was 14. She was my student in Philadelphia. She now has PhD. My colleague at Howard, we hired her. Oh, wow. And I never let the day pass. I would not be now here, Rolla Martin, but not just a dog.

Who was so mad. when you said you were free. She said, hey, he's going to be free. Is the prison of industrial complex? Man, you know, he's going to argue with everybody. That's my kids. So I'm like, hold on. I was like, bring your ass.

I was like, I'm like, I ain't said enough, y'all. Let's go. Roland Ever since. That's where I have that little green room at TV1, right? Oh, yeah. That was that one-on-one, not one-on-concast issue. It was where NBC News Channel.

Yeah, Joe Scarborough, all them be sitting in that little room. Y'all remember that little room? What's the guy that Bob Wood? where they all be sitting around Roland come through and they'd all stop Hey Roland what's going I'm like

I'll say y'all know him for real y'all never put him on your shoulder I ain't been that black as vits before or six all in one place so let me go

to Reese's let me tell you all so when Reese's first came on Recy was trying to be a normal commentator and I was like not normal so I had the first couple time I was like listen

I ain't call your ass for you trying to be like everybody The person who I saw on Twitter, I need you to bring that energy here. Period. She's like, really? I'm like, yes, I don't need you trying to sound like the rest of you there.

She told her tip, I was like, Reese, we're going to do that. You want to do that? She's like, oh, I can cuss. I was like, the show called unfiltered. And so she has used the word MF at least $7,000. At least, yes, yes, yes, because I've been on the show for five years.

So 7,000 sounds about right. Yeah, right. And people are like, I can't believe you're putting that cussing woman on the show, and I was like, I own this shit, so what's your problem? And then, of course, got to see his excellent radio show, all that good stuff. Indeed, indeed, yes.

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Right. Well, they still out there running out because the whole point, whether it was a TV one or here, the whole point was to create a platform for non-traditional voices who would never get called by the other networks. They wouldn't. I mean, I was that seen it for six years.

I knew it took me four and a half years to get there. So I knew how they played the game, who they put on. Absolutely. And so the whole point is, how do you expand, how do you expand the universe? And I remember at TV 1, there were people who were, they were like, oh, man, it was the, which I think was 16, all these, man, they hiring all your people.

I was like, yo, Jeff Zufford can hire everybody. I'm going to go find a whole new crop. And then they go hire all of them, I'm going to go find a whole new crop. So that was the whole point, because I knew the game that they played in how they gatekeep as to who they would put on the air to speak on various issues. But that was all three networks because All of them. I mean, there isn't a Cable and Brunquet. There isn't a black person probably

doing commentary right now on cable news that didn't come through the Rollin Martin ecosystem over the last decade. Whether it's Gianno and Fox News, whether it's the folk or the Fox News or every last one that came through either news one now or Rollin Martin unfiltered. Again, that's understanding in terms

of how this whole thing worked. I'm glad to have Michael here because for a long as he couldn't get his damn computer to work. It was like, he You know I ain't lying. See, I mean, all the Omega was coming out. The lighten, the internet, the laptop. Father was like, Michael, just bring your ass in.

We can't. What was the deal, Michael? What was going on? Well, after Hannity and O'Reilly fired me, you picked me up. And I appreciate that. Thank you. I was very kind of you. So we had some technology issues.

I know your staff, my frat brother in the back. Everybody's so angry with me. So my apologies. Congratulations on seven years. to you and your team. Congratulations, folks. Very appreciate it. Mustafa, of course, Mr. the Green Man.

Always talking about the environmental stuff. And again, the perfect example. Again, so many other shows, we're not talking about black people in the environment. That's true. I mean, you gave an opportunity to put a spotlight on what was happening across the country. And not only did you do it here in the studio,

but you also came out to the community to make sure that they knew that they were valued and heard so that people could actually see what's going on. And that's the difference because all those other shows never showed up in community. So how do you really know what's going on? How can you tell the story properly

and make sure that it's authentic if you're not showing up? But you also expand it because it wasn't just about the environment and climate. It was also about how does it impact housing? How does it talk about jobs? How do we do all these other types of things because our communities are holistic?

So we've got to be able to address it that way and you gave the platform for that. Not only for myself, but for others also, because that's incredibly important in making sure that other voices who are out there doing the work also get to shine. Got to. Got to. Randy, how you get here? So this is what's crazy about it.

You don't even remember. You were doing a show like on DEI or something. I can't remember. And I was doing shows like with the normal, like you said, the normal stations. I was on there talking appropriately. I did a show for DEI. You completely forgot about me. Then I said, I'm so sick of talking about DEI in this appropriate way because I was getting

pissed off because they weren't doing anything and so I went off one day on a video and you DM me and you said I want you on the show and I'm like oh my gosh, good to see you again you're like I don't know who you are but I remember on the show and I always I kept telling

people I want to be on Roland Martin's show because I want to be able to talk about it in a real way instead of be doing this bullshit that I was doing on all these other networks that I was the person they would call because I wanted to make change but I also wanted to keep talking, right? So you have to talk a certain way, and I was playing the game.

The way, Reese was trying to talk when she came on this show. Right, right. We ain't doing that, Reese. Right, that's what I was doing. And then you... Out of five minutes. It was twice. Okay, twice.

Because the second time I was like... Don't do it. You too automatically do it. And then Carol, I got a note from your producer, Carol, her wonderful self, and she's like, come on. And you haven't gotten rid of me since. All right, so let me tell you out, Linda. So it's the 20th anniversary, Million Man March.

all three of y'all stage host that day all right so was you Tamika Tamika Carmen yourself so I'm interviewing three of the math with her so I was like alright listen now this is over I said so here's about to happen I said I'm about to put all three of y'all on Tom's on the morning show on TV

and I said let me real clear when I call your ass you better answer the phone I said if I call you at 705 and I got to go live in 10 minutes, I need you to be ready. I said, because I said, you have to, I said, your voice has got to be out there

in terms of leadership. I said, be ready when I called. They were like, okay. That conversation happened. And that was the whole point. Because again, again, so the whole point is being intentional with how you use media and what voices to put out

knowing how other people were going to freeze folks out or drive a different narrative. That's right. I mean, you always did that for us, Roland, and that's why I'm here all the way in Washington, D.C. to say congratulations on seven years. You've been someone that has reaffirmed the movement. You've seen the people outside that risked their lives every day for the things we believe in. You were one of the few people that started helping us to put Rihanna Taylor's name on an international level. You put her voice out there. She was murdered in March.

No one knew about her in March. No one knew about her in April. No one knew about her in mate, and then you helped us put her name out there so people knew her name all over this country. And ever since, you know, you've given me an opportunity, as you know, mainstream media don't like people like me. They like to talk about my people without my people. Right. And you have always said, no, you've got to let the people speak for themselves.

You've given us that opportunity in this last very dark two years to talk about our perspective about what's happening and what we want. So I appreciate you and happy anniversary. Appreciate it. I'm going to get you out your story. So the women's marks, they're having that big thing in this. Detroit. And so they asked me to speak. And there were haters who were like, no, he shouldn't speak. And Tamika Carmen, Linda, was like, oh, y'all can sit y'all asses down. He's going to speak. So when I got up

there and spoke, I said, because it was like 3,000 or somebody? Five thousand. I said, I said, listen, whenever 5,000 women are gathered, I want to be. It's a white woman who got upset. That was, that was sexist. That was, they were going crazy. And the sister's like, listen, I'm going to if y'all to be quiet, I need to get my photo. Can y'all just move the hell out of the way? But what, so while they were going off, I said, whoa, first

all, I need, I said, no, no, let them run their mouths. I said, because what y'all don't understand is the Montgomery Bus Boycott started with the women. So I was like, so they had, so, again, these white women viewed the comment as sexes, but not understanding

the history of black protest movement and how women were at the center of it. So they were sitting here looking at it as a sexist thing having no understanding of Joanne Robinson or any of the sisters in Montgomery and how they

started. And that also was part of the problem with the women's march, not understanding how certain folk didn't want men involved as opposed to saying, no, no, who got our back? Who with us? As opposed to who fighting us? I mean, it's the same set of white women who were fighting for voting

rights and got their voting rights and black didn't get it till about 1965, so that's the kind of people we were working with. You know this as things that we went through in the women's mark with leadership. I mean, our leader was Tamika Mallory, who's an incredible black woman, an organizer, activist, and people didn't like to see people in these positions who are powerful and influential and also eloquent and able to articulate the positions of the people that we were from. And Tamika made it very clear. She said, any movement that doesn't include her black son is not a movement she wants to be a part of.

So just because you have a woman-led movement don't mean that you're only fighting for women. We're fighting for our communities and our families, and that's something that, unfortunately, white women have a hard time understanding, which is probably why we're in the situation that we're in right now. And one of the reasons that the Women's March is essentially non-existent is because by running y'all off,

they literally ran off leadership, and I have no idea what the hell they're doing now. So all of that organizing, all of that data collection, all that completely went to waste because they did not want to follow women of color, as leaders. Now one of the reason I wanted to have Linda here, I saw this on social media the other day, and I kept warning y'all this was going to happen. See, if y'all watch this show, I kept telling y'all about all of these white folks and the birth rate of white people. I told y'all, I talked about it in my book, White Fear. And so everything I put in my book, y'all, unfortunately, has come true. And even though these networks didn't want to book me on and discuss it, and they still won't discuss the reality of white fear in this country is still here. So, y'all, may have seen in the last couple of weeks how white folks like Charlie Kirk and others by following Elon Musk all of a sudden now are attacking immigration in Europe and this video

was put out watch this guys this is Paris in 2025 they're lying about the numbers So this is a new France, coming soon, coming soon to you, to a neighborhood near you. So what you're trying to understand what's going on, okay? Elon Musk tweets a lot about the declining birth rates around the world, okay? You had Connor McGregor, who was convicted of sexual, who was actually found guilty of sexual assault, hanging out at the White House, complaining about the indigenous people in Ireland losing their cities because of immigration. Now, understand what you're now seeing. That actually has been happening in Europe for the last 10 and 15 years.

I was talking about it then when folks were not paying attention to it. And so here's what they all anger about. They are angry about African immigrants, Muslim immigrants. immigrants in London, in England, in France, in Germany, in Italy, in Ireland, and all of these white European countries. Now, why are they mad? Whose fault is that white people stop screwing? It's just a fact.

The white birth rate has been declining for the past 30 years. I showed you all the chart on this show. The only reason Germany's economy is still where it is, is not because. of white Germans, it's because of immigration. I keep trying to explain to people here, especially all these Adas, FBI, B-1 people who know nothing about history. You cannot have a future if you do not have GDP. You have to have people who are living and working and contributing to an economy in order

for your GDP to remain where it is. So the United States' GDP is $30 trillion. dollars. China's GDP is 19 trillion. Why does China people, remember they were saying for a decade, China's going to surpass us. But China made a huge mistake with their one child ruled because they said

we're overpopulated. They were not that great at math because they were not counting what's going to happen in 30 years when a 60-year-old person is 90 and they don't reach 90. Unfortunately, they become an ancestor. So what happened? China had to get rid of their one-child rule and go to a two-child rule because they didn't have enough people to replace the folks who were passing.

And so all of these European countries are pissed off with black immigrants, pissed off with Muslim immigrants. But let's be clear, those countries will not exist in the next 10, 20 years the way they are now if they do not replace population. But the racism we're seeing, Linda, this is all tied to racism. Charlie Kirk is tweeting these things, Elon Musk tweeting these things. Now all of a sudden, all of these different conservatives

are not talking about, oh, this could be us. Well, guess what? As Springfield, Ohio, what happens when the white folks leave and die? And then they were crapping on the Haitian immigrants. And now the Haitian immigrants are booking. Springfield, Ohio is going to, they complain. They're about to lose jobs, lose housing,

lose all sorts of things because they want to run the black folks off. This is the latest anti-black, anti-Muslim racism of MAGA white supremacists. That's right. I mean, everything you said and if the white people in Europe don't want our people, then stop exploiting our wealth in our countries.

Stop supporting war. Stop bombing people in places like Iraq. So when you get an influx of Iraqi refugees or Syrian refugees or you're getting folks coming up from Africa for better opportunities, oftentimes the European countries and the West, which includes us,

are part of the reason why they come here. immigrants where you are born is where you want to be I promise you if you ask any immigrant if they could live in dignity in the places that they are from you want to be with your culture with your language with your food with the land that your ancestors you know what's called home

that's your home like my Palestinian parents would love to live in Palestine free Palestine and we promise you our one way ticket over there so that's part of it's what you said and also they have no self-awareness of why there's an influx of refugees comes in. They had Afghan refugees.

You had a 21-year war in Afghanistan. Apparently, one you fought with trillions of American taxpayer dollars to fight the terrorists, which were the Taliban, and then you all withdrew and guess who are the people that are in charge in Afghanistan? The same people you told us you was fighting for 21 years.

So there's no self-awareness. Even Central American immigrants, the exploitation we've done in Central American countries, what we've done in Mexico, in Ecuador, in Guatemala. There's no self-awareness. Trust me, a Guatemalan wants to be in Guatemala if they could raise their children in safety and insecurity. But

even, you know, you know from the days of the drug war here, the war on drugs, there's many documentaries, it's not just me. We were, our own government was involved, you know what I'm saying, in the drug war. And so these cartels that have come up, and anyway, I just watch these people and I'm like, I don't even know what they're talking

about. No, the reason I'm laughing, because you got all of these immigrants who are coming into France who speak French. Hmm, I wonder why. Yeah, exactly. Maybe it's called colonization. So if you're mad that they're coming to France, maybe you should have been pissed. The French were in their

countries. Yeah, absolutely. You know, it's interesting listening to this conversation about how everyone came to be here. And, you know, you don't know this. This isn't the first time I'm going to tell you this. But, you know, I came from doing all the

shows, MSNBC and BBC and El Jazeer. I was one of these few black faces talking about foreign policy and national security. And Recy is how I got to be on this show. And when I started doing more black shows, a lot of people in my world were kind of like side-eyeing me. But what happened was when I would come back with data from reading the comments, talking to people on Recy's show, being able to talk about what people are responding to in real time, then all of a sudden I become very. I became valuable in a very different way.

I got invited into the National Security Council messaging space. You know, with all the top, you know, I called this like the gang of 33 or 34 where, you know, you have the Michael McFaugh. Our I Heart Radio Music Festival, presented by Capital One, is coming back to Las Vegas. Vegas. September 19th and 20th. On your feet. Streaming live only on Hulu. Ladies and gentlemen.

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I am the only black person in that space. And every single time I had something to say, they didn't necessarily execute, but they listened because I, I was the only one doing black media. I wasn't valuable on doing MSNBC and all those shows because pretty much I was saying the same things that other political scientists were saying.

I wasn't really saying anything different. I might have had a little bit more personality and my outfit was fly, you know. But, you know what I'm saying, that red lip? But essentially, I wasn't really saying anything very different, but it is when I started doing Roland Martin, doing Recy show, and doing other black media, is when my value increased in a very different way

behind the scenes. Because what they were getting wrong in the beltway, I'm saying that's not working with black people in Texas. That's not working with black people in Louisiana. It's just not working. And so that was something that meant a great deal to me in my world. And even still to this day, you know,

I walk into these spaces and I still have a different level of cachet because I do black media. I have a different perspective. I have different data. I talk to different people. And it's so interesting how I have this concept where, you know, as a black woman to be visible and invisible at the same time, how you can have a seat at the proverbial table,

but are people really listening, right? So I can walk into these spaces and I have a certain level of swag and cachet that I carry. But at the same time, are you really listening? listening to what I'm saying because when I think about a lot of things that happened towards the end of the administration with a lot of foreign policy things, I know quite clearly what I was saying that was not working, but no one was listening, right? And I cannot tell you how many times since then, and I'm not going to name names, people have come up to me and said, Nola, I wish we

would have listened. That's right. I am not kidding. And it's humbling, it's infuriating. And the One thing that I want to say is once we are out of this my ear, once we're out of this mess, I see that finger. I hope that we aren't just decorative at the table, that people actually listen and execute because our lived experiences and perspectives are different and valuable. Eugene, what's happening is, and again, people have to pay attention. What we are seeing is all by design when it comes to MAGA. when it comes to the Heritage Foundation. This is about whiteness. So at Peter Thiel's conference, NACON,

okay, Missouri, U.S. Senator Eric Schmidt, this is somebody who can't even trace his folk to the Mayflower. But this is, we played this yesterday, this is literally what he said in a 25-minute speech at that conference and how all of these white conservatives clapped when he said this. The Continental Army soldiers dying of Frostbite, at Valley Forge. The pilgrims struggling to survive in the hard winter soil of Plymouth, the pioneers striking out from Missouri for the wild and dangerous frontier,

the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian warband attacks from beyond the stockade walls. All of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a proposition. They believed they were fighting for a nation, a homeland for themselves and their descendants. They fought, they bled, they struggled, they died for us. They built this country for us. America, in all its glory, is their gift to us, handed down across the generations. It belongs to us. It's our birthright. It's our heritage, our destiny. If America is everything and everyone, then it is nothing and no one at all. When they tear down our statues and monuments, mock our history, and insult our traditions,

they're attacking our future as well as our past. By changing the stories we tell about ourselves, they believe they can build a new America, with the new myths, the new people. But America doesn't belong to them. It belongs to us. It's our home. It's a heritage entrusted to us by our ancestors. It's a way of life that is ours and only ours. If we disappear, then America, too, will cease to exist. See, Eugene, it's very interesting because that's exactly the mantra of the Republican part.

That is pure whiteness. That's white supremacy, it's white nationalism, and what they want to do, even when Mitch McConnell says this reminds me in 1930s, America's got to remember, Hitler sent his people to the United States to study Jim Quartz. and brought it back to Nazi Germany. And so what they want to do is the exact same thing. So when these white folks in America are going to France and complaining about these Muslim and black immigrants, this is nothing, it's the exact same thing.

They want to extend whiteness and reclaim it globally. And this thing, right? So I say at a time that Mag is built on the foundation of a Steve King. It's built on the foundation of an anti-year. Biggs. It's built in the foundation of Pat Buchanan. It's built in the foundation of white conservatives that may have been considered fringe for a very long time. And then Donald Trump comes in and puts a happy smile, a jet, a helicopter, a personal security detail in front of it makes it look really presidential. And then, you know, rise that into the White House.

So, I mean, it's literally been the putting lipstick on the pig to, you know, go through the Sarah Palin era that, you know, that timeline goes through. That's what we're dealing with. And now they're very naked about it. Peter Thiel has funded many, many organizations over the years. White, South African Peter Thiel. White South African Peter Thiel. Some organizations that, you know, disagree with them and lost that funding and some organizations that leaned into it. And, you know, he's still funding and working through them. And with you, you know, one more time, in these rooms, this is where you get the naked honest truth, where they feel free to speak, you know, as they would if they're in the, you know, bad cloak room on the hill. Now,

not even got that cover they'll get the hog out here and being the greatest Republican to walk on this set and the one that's still standing Andrew Lee got me here told Roland and Jackie

hey book my guy and we had the black and blue segment and from there you know Roland had me every Monday morning which then I guess led to that infamous Umar clip that still goes viral

every two months so Michael his was interesting I'm sitting in looking at Chuck Schumer's feed I don't see nothing about Eric Schmidt. And see, this to me

is a huge problem for Democrats. See, leadership right now is like, oh, you know, no, we should be focusing on food prices and gas prices and whatever. So other stuff is a distraction. They even think the Epstein stuff is a distraction.

But what's crazy is, if you are the Senate minority leader and you can't call out that racist speech, you should not be in leadership. that part. But what would he call out? What was Schumer call out? Well, clearly you're right. The one thing we haven't, we being Democrats, haven't understood yet, is our messaging, clearly. That has not worked. The democracy message doesn't connect. It sounds great, obviously, but it doesn't

connect. And it's hard for white leaders in my party to call white supremacist. what it is. If you have poor white people in America, if you have poor white people in America that have no problem losing their farms as long as the white supremacy agenda is first priority, it's hard to make any argument about anything else. So once they had somebody like the guy who's at 1600 Pennsylvania now saying it's okay to give speeches like that in public and giving people the ability to commit racism right in your face and if your party leaders

don't really do anything about it it's hard to message that and white supremacy is you know when I the reason I got to your show thank goodness I mean besides me whipping you up on the golf course besides that

I know you high right now besides that I know you high right now besides that point I know you high you can outstep me or outgolf me Now, go on right ahead. I don't know why you're at. I've a bad Achilles, so I can't...

Oh, okay, all right. That's why you can't finish your shoulder turn either. Okay, go on here. So, when I got into it with Ann Coulter on Fox on the Hannity show, and my days were numbered after our confrontation. Sounds like me and me on a joke. But go ahead. Well, yeah, you did have that, did you?

But when you're on those kind of platforms, Yes, you have to conduct yourself differently than being unfiltered relative to your language. But that doesn't mean you have to take a step back from your position and your argument. And a lot of folks get on there and they're so happy to be there. For example, they throw these contracts at you. I just didn't want a contract from Fox. I couldn't do it. My mother told me not to do it.

So I didn't do it. God rest of herself. Yes, thank you very much. So when you take that, it gives you the freedom to not worry about consequences. And so when Anne took her microphone off and got mad at Sean for not basically defending her, I wasn't attacking her, I was attacking her position. That's right. My days became number.

O'Reilly had kicked me off a long time ago because he kept talking about Jesse Jackson and I didn't like it. So you have to go on with principle and not any fear. And it's hard to do. Randy, I'm sitting there looking, I don't see nothing for Bernie Sanders. Right. I don't see nothing from Elizabeth Warren. And I'm like, what? y'all weren't aware that speech actually was given

and just know I actually sent a text to one of Schumer's people I know you did I'm sure you did the problem is is that everything goes under the umbrella of white supremacy and it is very difficult particularly to have white people who benefit who are the greatest benefactors of white supremacy

go against it and so that's what we saw like you were just talking about in the last election and things white women to tell white women although you know they are they suffer for it we talk about the birth rate that's why they're losing their rights over their entire bodies because they have to get the numbers up. They don't have rights but they still get those little bit of benefits

and they cling on to it. And this is why we see other groups that seem not to get it. If we just act a certain way, if we just behave, we will get let into this arena of white supremacy. And if they can't see it now, you're not

going to get it. That you're not going to get it. And so I believe that the people who are in places of power, they definitely That power is fueled by white supremacy. And so it's difficult for them to speak up against it. They're fearful to speak up against it. Mustafa, the thing here is this here. When you listen to Schmidt say this, Missouri plans on gerrybanding their state.

They want to gerrymander Emmanuel Cleaver and Wesley Bell out of the congressional seats to African-Americans in Missouri. They want to be all-Republican. And so what these Democrats don't understand is what Smith said, that literally is Republican Party policy. So when he kept saying us, he literally said our ancestors meant this for them and their descendants. And basically said this wasn't meant for none of y'all who now since come. Now, we all knew that was the case anyway. But that's literally what they're saying. But you're saying, so all y'all black people, your Latinos, y'all are Asians, Asian Americans.

This shit wasn't for you. Right. We probably should remember the words of Malcolm X when he said he talked about those who are being oppressed and the folks also on the other side of the equation who are doing the oppressing. And we see that play out right now when we look at all the things that are currently going on in relationship to the gerrymandering and people grabbing hold of power. So these folks understand the dynamics that are going on in that space and they refuse to let go of it and they're willing to do whatever.

they need to do to be able to hold on to the power, to hold on to the resources, and to push down whoever is in the way. So that's the dynamic that we currently have going on. Great. Yeah, I agree. I think we have a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of nation states. This is a 2,000-year problem. The problem of settler colonies, more specifically, and very specifically the problem, the greatest settler colony in the history the last 500 years, This is the United States of America. This is the end of the age of Europe. Their desperation is desperation is delicious.

No, seriously. If we zoom out several tens of thousands of years, sometimes I wonder whether Africans should have ever migrated into Western Eurasia and got caught between the ice ages and adapted. We should never have walked up here in the first place. This might be ultimately the greatest lesson of this. Because whiteness is the cost. culture of whiteness is rooted in

a sense of scarcity, in a sense of insecurity, and that comes from resource scarcity. So their whole philosophy, when he goes through that, I love Eric Schmidt, the former Attorney General of Missouri, because that's what we all learn in school. It's manifest destiny. It's that white

woman floating over them as they go to California. This is what they do. So when Schmidt talks about the pilgrims, these religious fanatics, the Christian version of al-Qaeda in some ways, when they got here to the Massachusetts Bay Colony, they're looking to do murder. because they came from a place where murder was the standard. When he's talking about Lewis and Clark leaving from Missouri at behest of Thomas Jefferson,

he forgot about Sakajia and York, who was a captive enslaved by them, who went out there, who was in meeting with the indigenous people on the way out. But our problem is we want them included in the narrative so that we can somehow say we, too, are Americans, we built this. And as Richard Pryor said, shut up, fool, you want the India's mad at us too? Why are we buying into this criminal enterprise? Chuck Schumer ain't going to say that because he believes that same story. he just wouldn't say it that way.

They think America's exceptional. This is American exceptionalism. We have always used that language, but not because we believed it, but because it was a defense mechanism. Everybody who has improved this country that is not white has done so in order to build a society

that these people never imagined. Right. So I don't say that it started with the Tea Party or with, no, no, this started with George Washington. It started with William and Mary. It started with the Virgin Queen. And it continued and echo through the years. Eisenhower is no different than them.

Grover Cleveland was no different than them. Brother Reed Hayes was no different than them. Andrew Johnson was no different than them. And everybody before Lincoln, they said, well, Trump is the worst president ever. The first half dozen of them were human traffickers. How in the hell are you going to say? No, they're all worse. I said all that to say this.

This platform, this station, allows us to have that conversation. And we're at the age now where they'll never be able to go back to Walter, Kankite. Kronkite. They're saying Dan Rather still doing news. 20 years after that. Everybody now, Medi Hassan got a show called. Medi Hassan unfiltered. God bless you, but we all know when you got that from. And I'm loving Zateo

and all that stuff, might as touch, whoever you want to name it. Every time I see you, sis, it's not on the stuff that was legacy media, but everybody's watching those other platforms now. They can't put their world back together. Right. Now they're trying to compete who's going to be the most radical

sounding. Don't even worry about that. come over here because we're not doing this to build America. We're doing this to build a new society. I love Eric Schmidt. He's a desperate man, and we're going to break his political back now because the illusion is being dropped that we believe in anything he believes.

I want him to keep talking like that. And to see, to the point about, we're going to go to break, but to the point about Pat Buchanan, he literally said, our fear is that they will do to us what we did to them. No question. In Mitch Landrieu's book, Mitch Landrieu said the same. He said, why people?

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And that's why they cannot handle 2043. They cannot handle black power and Latino power. And then Latinos are going to have to come to their realization that you have to with your whiteness because you've got white Latinos who are more white than they are brown and not realizing that they also don't like y'all. I'm like, don't get that confused.

They'll use you for numerical reasons but do understand they don't like y'all either. They don't want none of us who ain't pure Aryan in this country and in power. And it's right there. That is a sitting United States Senator at a right

wing conference funded by an apartheid and a son of apartheid Peter Thiel who funded J.D. Vance, the current vice president. And that's his conference. So you cannot, you cannot decouple Teal and the Edmund Burke Foundation and NetCon from Smith

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Before I ask you about that, Glenn, I got to ask you this here. You former worked in the U.S. Attorney's Office. What do you make of these idiots in D.C., trying to prosecute everybody, and the federal Washington, D.C., grand jury keeps, and they've rejected several of these bogus attempts to hit folks with felonies. It's rare that a grand jury rejects. a prosecutor's effort to indict. But repeatedly, they're like,

nah, this ain't flying. Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's extremely rare for a grand jury to decline to indict a case. But, I mean, they're trying to charge this guy for throwing a sandwich, and they're trying to charge him with a felony. So, you know, I'm not surprised the grand jury

not only declined to indict, but apparently it was a little bit insulted that they would waste their time with something like that, because it really is a waste. to time. And, you know, Piro is the new U.S. attorney, and she's coming in, you know, pounding her chest, acting like she's going to be so tough and everything. But those are ridiculous cases to pursue. That's a very serious office, the arm of the Department of Justice. They should be pursuing serious cases. Well, and what we're seeing is, again, they're claiming how they've just

drastically slashing crime all across Washington, D.C., but when you look at the actual arrest, so many of them are misdemeanors. They're not actually impacting violent crime. Yeah, I think a lot of that is kind of, you know, fake counting, fake numbers, essentially. But, you know, at the end of the day, though, even if hypothetically there was some sort of effect where they were reducing violent crime, it's just a short-term solution. And we know violent crime's a long-term problem. So why don't we do things that we know will work in the long-term?

When I was a prosecutor in the U.S. Attorney's Office, I was there in the early 90s. Homicides were at 450 to 500 per year. You know, now they're a fraction of that. And part of the reason they came down is because D.C. has had sustained efforts, not just an enforcement. You want more cops and all of that and have them, you know, patrolling in the right ways. But they had intervention and prevention programs. They're aimed at reaching kids who were in trouble, reaching kids who were at risk, maybe even reaching folks who are already in jail with reentry efforts, when they come out and 99.9% do,

why don't we try and take steps to make sure that they have the skills to reintegrate into the community? And at the front end of it, let's not wait until somebody gets shot and there's a body on the ground. Let's try and see if we can reach these kids, and usually they're very young people, late teens, early 20s. Let's see if we can reach them before they get to that stage, get the gun out of their hand, and find other ways to resolve whatever the disagreements are. And then, of course, the longer term piece, you know, if you get kids who are getting the education and they see a path forward with respect to jobs and other traditional past, they'll take that. You know, not a lot of kids grow up saying, I want to go to jail, I want to be a criminal and all that stuff. There's something that they turn to for a variety of reasons.

Let's attack those reasons on the long term. Obviously, these troops aren't about doing that, and they're not trained to do it. It's a waste of time. It's a waste of money. One last point, they're withholding, the Republicans in Congress, are withholding $1.1 billion of D.C.'s money from D.C. Now, if they give the $1.1 billion, or, you know, free it up so D.C. can use it. The mayor's already said she wants to use it for cops and teachers. So free up the money, let them decide how to use it in the way they want to.

Take these guys off the street. If you want to spend a million dollars a day in the District of Columbia, Go ahead and do that. But do it on stuff that's going to make a difference in the long term. Last question here, and that is we talk about moving forward. I mean, the reality is, look, Republicans control the purse strings. They control the House. They control the Senate.

And now that Congress is back. What I'm hearing from people all across the country, folks say they want a far more aggressive fight from Democratic Party. If you look at the polling data, people do not have, even Democrats and Progressives, have much faith in Democratic leadership. When you travel the district, what are people saying to you, and what are you taking back to leadership that they need to be doing? Because, again, people do not have faith that current Democratic leadership, House and Senate, knows how to effectively combat Donald Trump and MAGA. Yeah, I mean, that's out there a lot. I mean, a couple of the things that we need to do is continue to build on the cases that we have in court. We've filed some of those in the House of Representatives.

The Democracy Forward Group, you know, which is supported by the unions, have done an outstanding job in court, getting a lot of injunctions in place. But a lot of times, by the time they get up to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court's not necessarily overturning them on the merits, but they're given the Trump administration enough room to keep doing the destructive activities. I think we need to make sure we keep pushing on all fronts that we possibly can. That's protests, like the ones we did today with respect to D.C. and the militarization of the city. I think it also includes efforts to do focused and targeted work on these toss-up districts in Congress. We need to take the House back next year to actually regain some kind of power. We need to focus on the targeted districts where we've got shot to do that. And there's some and all across the country, for sure.

But we need, it's not high-profile work, it's not pretty work, but it's the work that can actually win elections. And it's doorknock and it's looking stamps, it's reaching out to people early. Don't wait until the October before the election kind of outreach, start now. And we can do things where we're explaining to people to make sure they understand that there was a $1 trillion cut to Medicaid that's going to affect them. That there are going to be cuts that take away the tax credits that help them afford health care coverage under Obama. that they are going to lose snap access and the like for, so, you know, kids won't necessarily be getting lunches at schools like they used to. There's all kinds of things that have been taken away from them.

We need to make sure they understand that and know that. That came from Trump and the Congressional Republicans. And then the last piece of what I would say on this front is, you know, we've got to make sure we're doing everything we can to connect with people where they are. Part of this is communication. Part of this is making sure that they hear. What's going on? We got out flanked in 2024.

They had a lot of these, you know, online influencers and the like on the Republican side. We're building that out now on our side so we can battle them on the information war in spaces where we weren't even present before. And people like you, I think, are doing an outstanding job of getting the message out, getting the information out, getting people mobilized because knowledge is power. And we're definitely going to need that power in the year coming up. But it also has to happen, Congressman. That is individuals like yourself in the Congressional Black Caucus now, not next May, not next June, not next October, now must be challenging Ken Martin and the DNC, the Democratic Governors Association, the D-Triple C, the DSCC, and all of these Democratic donors, and make it clear to them that they've got to stop listening to white democratic strategies who refuse to listen to black people, who refuse to listen to black people, who refuse to listen to.

to Latinos who keep putting billions of dollars into legacy media, funding those networks that nobody's watching, and then what they do is they make digital media compete for a crumb, not crumbs, a crumb, and try to justify all of this, and that to me is nonsensical, and it makes no sense. And I've made it perfectly clear to progressive campaigns. I told them what Fat Joe said Yesterday's price ain't today's price If you want to run ads over here

You're going to pay a real number What you're not going to do is play me small And folk like yourself and others Are going to have to be very clear with these people Because they need to understand That the game has changed You cannot target black people The way you used to

That thing is out the window Even the Obama campaign effort it's out the window. It has to be a much longer runway, much more intensive, and it has to be real investment. And unfortunately, too many of these Democrat, these white Democratic strategists do not want to do that. And they're going to learn a painful lesson. And I'm going to tell you right now, you can mark it down. If they do the same thing next year they did in 24, y'all are not going to win the House. You're not going to win the Senate. Yeah, that's a great point. Hakeem got a pollster named Terrence Woodbury, who focused

This is on, well, he does polling in general, but he has a specialty in African-American, especially with respect to politics. And one of the things he found was that the messaging really needs to be segmented and reach out to people, not just the folks in my age group, the civil rights age group and, you know, still going to church and all that stuff. But we've got other age groups that aren't reachable in the same way. Going to church on Sunday isn't the way to reach some of them because they're not in church. you know, going on, as you pointed out, going on broadcast TV, they're not watching broadcast TV, they're not listening to NPR.

So we have to find different ways to reach him. But the key point that he made was that, you know, the Democratic Party keeps going after, you know, swing voters, they call them. And by that they mean white voters, pretty much. They mean white, especially white suburban women. Yeah, frequently white women. His point, though, was if you look at what's happened with their numbers, they've been stable over the last four of them.

elections. The last person to get a decent number of white women voters was Barack Obama, and he didn't get over 50 percent with them. And that was 17 years ago. That's right. Hillary Clinton didn't get it. You know, Kamala didn't get it. That's not moving. Where we are losing votes, though, where we could get it back quickly is the African-American vote. We lost a lot of votes. They didn't necessarily swing over to Trump, although a lot more did than we were expecting. A lot of people stay at home. That's the swing vote that we need to target and make sure we get out, because those are the districts we need to win that can make a difference. And I think also the messaging for African Americans is going to work with a lot of these folks.

Latinos and some of the other groups in particular, maybe not to the extent they will with us, but they're losing health care too. They're going to run into high energy prices, too. Their groceries are going up, too, because of the tariffs and things that the Trump administration's doing. We've got to explain to them so they understand that, and we've got to explain the alternative approach that we want to present them with, a lot of which happened in the Biden administration that Trump's dismantling right now. So we've got our work cut out for us, but I think you're right. We've got to make sure, A, we don't wait until the last minute to start getting the messaging

out, B, we got to make sure we target the most loyal voters that we have in the Democratic Party or actually anywhere across the board, the African-American vote. Well, just so you know, I met last year with the House Majority Pack and the Senate Majority Pack and never heard from them again. Not one penny was being paid, so you might want to tell Leader Jeffries and Leader Schumer that. We'll do. We'll do. And not only that, I think all of us, not just at the leadership level, all of us need to make sure we're doing that kind of work and working with you to help get those things done. Because when we run an ad on your show or, you know, even if it's a local regional sort of thing, it spills over and can help other people who are running on our tickets as Democrats.

It can help them, too, even if they're not in our district. So making sure that you have the platform that you need to get the word out, I think is critical for the Democratic Party and, frankly, for the fate of the nation. All right, Congress of Glenn Avi, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Keep up the great work. Thanks a lot.

Rebecca Carruthers, President, CEO of Fair Election Center, Jones is right now from D.C. And Rebecca, it's real simple. If you don't invest, if you don't spend, if you don't spend it where what I call low-hanging fruit or your likely voters, they're going to keep losing. And I tell people, listen, we don't, I have never, I have never self-identify as a Republican or Democrat as a liberal or progressive or conservative. I'm black.

And I just look at black interests. And the reality is, if I'm speaking to black interests, they ain't going to happen going through the Republican Party. But Democrats had better realize they're going to keep getting their asses handed to them if they ignore or treat black people the same way they historically have done. Well, first Rowland, thank you so. Our I Heart Radio

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He's doing the polling. He's saying, hey, you need to talk and segment out black folks. That's great. But what are you going to talk about? We have hit the 200-day mark of the Trump administration. Trump told us last year through Project 25 what he was going to do in the first hour. First 24 hours. The first 50 days, the first 100 days, the first 200 days.

And now they're telling us what they're doing in the next 200 days. So why haven't we heard from the opposition party, allegedly, there's supposed to be the opposition party, why haven't we heard, hey, give us the House back, and we'll tell you what we're going to do to stop what's happening in this current administration. And by the way, give us some of the governorships that are up next year, and we'll tell you what we'll do state by state. Like, I am seeing today that California, Oregon, and Washington State is saying they're going to fight back against our RFK Jr. and actually have a pack to make sure that there's actually vaccines in America because, by the way, they're safe. And by the way, black folks, a lot of black people actually invented some of these vaccines

that we're using today that's saving millions of lives. So my point is, what is the affirmative message that we're going to hear from the opposition party? Why aren't they outlining it now? Give us a reason to vote. And then give us a reason to vote for you. And so you could say, oh, we need to segment people out and talk to them, but talk to them about what?

start that messaging today. I'm not just talking about surface level messaging of Trump is bad, but give me policy. The thing is this, right? Republicans did that. Like, Democrats are playing catch-up, but this is exactly what Republicans did

going back to 2015, 2016. I was sitting down with vendors like L2, Cambridge, and Alitica, that were going out and buying every data point possible on Americans. And taking those data points and literally formulating thousands, not tens, not hundreds, literally thousands,

of variations of different ads to say, okay, look, we know these 20 people on this block and this precinct care about this little, minute issue. And we're going to make sure every time they open up Facebook, they see an ad with this candidate and that issue. The Trump PAC, the Trump PAC in January, February, and March, we're running ads on black radio stations

in Michigan, Ohio, Georgia, that included transgender messaging. And I remember sending a text message to the deputy campaign manager for the Harris campaign. It was black. And they literally said, oh, we've looked at it. And then even later, we don't believe this is going to move the needles. And I said, y'all are idiots. So what happened was they were testing the messaging on black radio in the first quarter.

and that's why those commercials and that's why Charlemagne and DJ Envy that was included in the commercial and then when the election was over the Trump folks said that was their second most effective commercial and if you watch any college or NFL game

you saw the next calendar commercial that dude I was in I was in Ohio Wisconsin Georgia was woman battleground state in North Carolina I saw that ad a minimum of six times during halftime.

Half time. They understood all they had to do was move anywhere from 1.5 to 3.7%. But Roland, that's the thing, right? Elections, people think that elections are big swaths, right? No. When talking about voter suppression, they think, oh, my gosh, like, everybody's

able to be suppressed. No. Elections are a game of margins. It's, hey, I know this is my win number. This is what I need to win. This is what that margin needs to be. how do we get there? And that's what Republicans do it very well. They figure out that margin and figure out who to peel off,

whether there's black men this cycle, whether it's white women that cycle, whether it's the young white man in the next cycle, and figure out that margin. And that's what Democrats have to, if Democrats want to be competitive going forward, you've got to figure out where you could peel votes off on the margin and then build on those margins

and cater and give those people wherever the hell they want. But what it was, Michael, go ahead. No problem. And when my father was chair of the party, that's how Clinton won. The strategy was, first, are you going to bring, he said to the governor, are you going to bring a gun to a gunfight, not a knife like Dukakis did, and are you going to try to figure out those margins that you were talking about?

So when my father was chair, he was a first, Ron Lester, who we all know, had always been a subcontractor as a pollster. Hello, first off, everybody was like, Ron Brown was your father. Yes. Ron Lester was Democratic poster. Correct, thank you, thank you. Ron Lester had always been a subcontractor. Ron Leicester had a son, Michael.

Go ahead. He did do my polling when I ran for office. All right. But he had some choice things to say to me, too. But he made sure that Ron was a general contractor, not a sub. There you go. So that way that gave Ron

the ability to start passing out to smaller pollsters that could grow and become. And that data was so important on where black folks were relative to Governor Clinton. and against, and most Mount Rushmore's of Republicans, Ronald Reagan is on their, on their mountaintop.

George Bush was that vice president. He should have won that election, but because of the stress. If parole hadn't been in it? I don't know. I mean, he seemed to forget the middle of that didn't win. He did peel off, no question. No parole, probably Bush gets a second term. Possibly, possibly.

But he wasn't the race. I'm just saying in terms of success. So Bush is, Bush is to the guy and the right of the right. No, correct. This wreck is going the way it's going. But the thing here, Reese, again, that I'm going to go back to what the Trump folks did. By running that stuff in January, February, and March, they weren't waiting to September. They were seating.

They were seating. They were watching the data and see what the impact was. And it was kind of like, oh, peel, peel, peel, peel. And then when I look at what General Mallee Dillon, and I'm going to keep calling her name, and Stephanie Cutter, and David Plough and Quentin and all of them Oh, let's just dump millions into concerts

as opposed to just drilling hard going in and buying up everything on black radio everything on black digital everything on black television But no, it was kind of like But they're going to come out

And I keep saying I kept telling everybody by the 30 of Obama No black national candidate can run the Obama playbook ever again. It won't work. You have got to run differently to turn out black people because the person who was 10 years old when Obama got elected is now 27. It ain't the same person.

Yeah. I'm not even going to get into the black part of all that. I will say that I was on Chicago Public Talk Radio in 2020. and I went to Twitter right after it and I said, ooh, Chad, we got work to do because all I heard from the callers, black callers was trans and immigration shit. So this had been

a cumulative act. And that's one thing that Republicans understand that Democrats don't. Republicans know how to make a thing a thing. It doesn't start out at day one as being the thing. It starts as day one as being like, I don't know anybody cares. But by the first year, the second year,

the couple of months, everybody's talking about the ad, di, and shit, CRT. then we're explaining with CRT is at the college level. But then, it's a non-starter. So, Republicans know how to build, how to stick with something and make it the

thing that everybody is talking about. Democrats, like you plan out, we don't think it's moving the need of. So they let shit fester or they have things that they should be hammering, but they don't because, oh, this focus group didn't say they can't. This focus group didn't blame Trump for COVID.

Well, fuck. That's the biggest. fuck up that we've seen in recent decades was COVID. And now we have R.K Jr. who is saying that you can't get the COVID vaccine, who's undoing vaccine access across the board, even though this was Donald Trump's achievement.

And so, Democrats always want to just think that they're going to have that silver bullet and they just refuse to invest in making something the thing that people in this country care about. The only person I can say,

and I hate to give them any credit. is Bernie Sanders. He drove home this Medicare for all shit, even though he Columbused it from John Connors. I do have to, I like to remind people that because they call Black people neoliberal shit. You said Columbused from? From John Congress, Representative Conn, John Congress.

Uh-huh. All his progressive shit came from, black progressives. But he's built at home. And during the Biden-Harris administration, it was the progressives who was driving home. Today it would be a good day to cancel student debt. And then when the Supreme Court said, no, thanks, bitch.

They dropped it. And so... And the polls and continue to make it a thing. As a look, you know, Republicans get in, your student debt is coming back with the vengeance. And so Democrats need to learn how to stick with something. They need to learn how to make a thing and thing. But that takes investment.

That takes more than a talker's call. That takes more than a couple people on TikTok. No shape. Yeah, it does. You've been telling them for months. You got two elections in 60 days, one in Virginia and one in New Jersey. They should be test, that's your battleground and test everything for next cycle. Well, I think people forget in 2009 and 2010.

I was 19, 20 years, guys, so bear with me a little bit. But what I do remember is that what I saw everything on TV where Republicans running around talking about deaf panels, take away your health care. Now, all this shit was bullshit and lies, but it was enough festering for two whole years that by time November 2010 rolled around, people were voting on, okay, grandma might be have to face a deaf panel

that, you know, her medical care was not going to be paid for. And then this black guy in a tan suit, going to take away health care from all of us in general. Randy, real quick. Republicans play off of emotions, and that's the part, and we want to have lots of conversations. They will find a place that people are fearful and just run with that.

They make a thing of thing exactly like you said, whereas Democrats, we will sit there and say, well, let us explain what CRT is. No, no, no, they're wrong. Let us explain what DEI is. No, you have to deal with people's emotions and challenge, and Republicans do a brilliant job of that, of scaring people.

Real quick, go. It's a dark. Intel perspective. Like what you want to do is you want to understand pressure points. Like when you think about our enemies, when you think about Russia, when you think about China, they understand us better than we understand us. So the one thing that they're going to tug on, I'm going to go back to

a Britney Griner example, how that dovetails with foreign policy and blackness. Brittany Griner was the perfect person to put in jail because they knew, they had to, they put Biden up against the wall. It's like, okay, what you're going to do with your black

gay woman here? What are you going to do? Where are you going to give up to get her out? What are you going to sacrifice? That was a very interesting move. So my point is, because I'm about to get the finger, my point is that it's about understanding pressure points where Democrats, they don't necessarily approach messaging from that perspective.

It's the always playing catch up, always explaining, but it is a different way from understanding how to trigger people's emotionality, right? I'm going to come back to this here. I've got to go to break our next guest. We would talk, again, seven years ago, we talked about Crystal Mason. And here we are, seven years later, she still is dealing with the bullshit in Terry County. We'll talk with her lawyer next. Rolling Mark Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. I'm taking my hat off to you. I salute Roland Martin unfilter.

You're doing a bang-up job. I wish that you would issue an IPO because I would certainly invest. Black Star Network, what's happening? It's your man, Kim. And look, my new single, Rock with me is on fire. We debuted as the number one most. added and greatest gainer at R&B Radio. So look, I want you to go check it out. At

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And I appreciate you, and as somebody who's done us a long time, there's not very many platforms like this one. It's what makes it special. You should be compensated for how special it is. And now, you've built this with your team. I've built my firm with my team. Folks like us don't have a lot of backup, like I said before. So know that I see you, and I appreciate it. And I think that we'll have much more conversations as we go forward, and we should think about teaming up and doing some black-brown stuff.

Yeah. All right, folks, welcome back. Rollaback unfiltered right here on the Black Star Network. Seven years ago, when we launched our show, we told you about this story. out of Tarrant County, Texas. Tarrant County, Texas, where Crystal Mason, a black woman,

she tried to vote, black grandmother out of Fort Worth, she was jailed for attempting to vote on supervised release from federal prison. March 24, she was acquitted of the charge. However, the racist Tarrant County DA, Phil Sorrells, who need to be,

should be primary, urged the state's highest criminal court to review that decision and to convict Mason again. her attorney, Kim Cole Joel just right now so Kim glad to have you here first of all Kim for the people who don't know

tell again what year was it that Crystal tried to vote I'm sorry Roland I can't hear you can you hear me barely all right so guys can y'all

can you all right so guys can y'all fix her audio please you want to make sure so Kim can you hear me now yes I can All right, what year, what election was it where Crystal tried to vote? 2016. 2016.

That's nine years ago. Now, she tried, so her vote was never counted because it went after her that violated her. She was, because she had gone to prison on the federal charges. So she had to go back to prison. How long did she, how long was she, she had to go back for? she had to go back for she was sentenced to a year she had to do 10 months

in federal prison and also they reinstated her supervised release all right so she goes back for almost a year reinstate supervised released and y'all have been going back and forth appeals court all this sort of stuff and these

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In the trial, like you said, her, the supervisor over the entire district stated that they never informed her that she couldn't vote. He also said that they didn't even have a process in place for me, inform anybody whether or not they should, could vote. So nobody informed her. The state's own witnesses testified that they sent her mail to her home address while she was in federal prison. So there's no way she could have gotten the letter saying that she wasn't able to vote. So she never knew if they did not make their case in the state court that has been our argument all along. They did not make their case in trial yet the judge, because there wasn't a jury trial as a judge by a Republican, a trial by a Republican. judge and a bitch trial. And he found her guilty. And we're still here almost a decade later

awaiting a ruling. And so you're awaiting the ruling from which court? From the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, which is the highest court in the criminal system in the state of Texas. They originally ruled, it's been almost two years ago now that they ruled, actually it has been two years, I believe, that they ruled that the second court of appeals did not properly apply the law to Crystal's case. So they sent it back to the second court of appeals and had them take a second look at it. and remanded it back to the Second Court of Appeals.

Now for folks- The Second Court of Appeals ruled in our favor, and the state has now filed for a discretionary review, and that's where we are right now. And let's let folks know, how long did y'all have to wait for that last decision? 18 months. So 18 months, so, and when did the clock start this second review?

They filed in April of, 2025, 2024. So we're what, close to 17 months at this point? Right. And so here we are almost 10 years later and this sister still is having this over her head because the Tarrant County DA, Phil Sorrell's, he wants to put this woman in prison for voting and a vote that was actually never counted, correct? Correct. What they want to do, Roland, is exactly what the prosecutors stated in Crystal's original trial.

The prosecutors stated that they wanted to send a message to voters. That's what the Tarrant County District Attorney wants to do. He wants to send a message to voters. And obviously, we all know what that message means. It's purely voter intimidation. They have, I'm sure, as we've seen in. recent news, Texas has gone through extreme measures to chill voting in Texas. And this is one of their tactics, which began almost a decade ago.

It's absolutely insane. We've had you and Orr Crystal on this show for the last six years, and I can't believe here we are celebrating our seventh anniversary of Rollermont Unfiltered, and we are still talking about this case. It's unfortunate. It's absolutely unfortunate. I, you know, Roland, when we came on seven years ago, I probably, we might have to roll the tape back. I may have specifically and definitively stated, nope, this won't fly because it runs afoul of Texas law. However, in today's climate, given the lengths, that the Texas Republicans have gone to curtail voting and to send a message, I can't say what the outcome is going to be. I honestly can't. Tarrant County, I believe it's common knowledge that Tarrant County is the largest urban district in the U.S.

as far as the red district in the U.S. Yeah, it's actually, but it's also, it is the last large county in Texas that's red. Harris County, that's Houston, Dallas County, Dallas, Bayer County, San Antonio, Travis County, Austin, all of those are blue counties, and this is their last stronghold, and Republicans are desperately trying to hold onto this county. And one of the reasons why this county is still red is because black Latino voters are not voting their numbers. So you go.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And they are determined their models keep Tarrant-Callin Red. And that's essentially that's what they're trying to do by any means necessary. And even if it means putting an instrument in jail, they do not want folks that would like us to vote because their perception is that we always vote, which isn't exactly true, but that's the perception. All right.

Kim we appreciate it we hope not to see you next year on this anniversary and if we do see you it's for other reasons give Crystal our best we appreciate it thanks a lot absolutely thank you Roland and congratulations on your show appreciate it thanks a lot

Greg I want to go to you black folks in Tarrant County there should be Crystal Mason's billboard everywhere. This, see, this is the thing. Come on now. I've hit some pastors there.

Come on. And I said, how in the hell are y'all not making her the centerpiece of black turnout? You've got a racist MAGA sheriff in Tarrant County, a racist district attorney, and even more racist county judge who just drove through a racist gerrymandered district, to take out Elisa Simmons County Commissioner because the Republicans have a three or two majority. He wants a four to one majority. Use this racist

white firm paid for by county voters and then wouldn't even let them testify before the county commissioners court. And I've been saying that if folk in Montgomery made Rosa Parks the rallying cry in Taryn County is Crystal Mason. This is nine

years. This has been going on. Insane. It is. Well, let's look at Montgomery in that context. Did we know who the enemy was in Montgomery? We absolutely did. The late Neely Fuller said, you know what I'm saying, white supremacy,

everything else you think you understand will only confuse you. If a bully keep coming and you keep giving it up, you probably deserve what happens. Not in a moral sense, but when you beat a bully's ass, you beat the shit out of them,

they stop. These crackers are doing what they're doing because we haven't stopped them. Yep. You say it all the time rolling. We vote our numbers. It's over. In Tarrant County, absolutely. You say, since you don't want Crystal Mason to vote, you Klansman, we're going to break your political back. And all the people come saying, well, we're all just trying to build a better society. No, you go sit your ass down. We're not Democrats. We're not Republicans. You always say, we're for black people. And this is to all the people out there, collar shields for the Democrats. You Negroes need to go to hell. Because you are scared of your master. You worship other white masters, perhaps Karl Marx, or, you know. Antonio Gramsci, whoever you worship. But what you don't understand is the old school black people understood thing. In Montgomery, you're the enemy, Mr. Mayor, you to enemy Bull Connor, you're the enemy, and we're going to organize.

What we won't do today is call a thing a thing. The Democratic Party are racists. They are racists. And they are willing to sacrifice us. We need to use the Democratic Party the same way we used to use Republicans or any other body. It's a delivery system. So in Texas finally, let me ask you this. and this goes to everybody.

These crackers are gerrymandering counting on us not voting. If we vote our numbers, do those seats flip? Yes. Guess what? You can't gerrymander the DA race because it's counting-wise. Right.

Guess what? Come on. Talk to it. That race is up. I just pulled the numbers for 2022. In 2022, the last time that race was up, only 47% of those who were registered the vote showed up to vote.

That specific race with Phil Soros, He got about 310,000 votes. The black woman who ran against him got about 272,000 votes. That's the difference of 38,000 votes. You're trying to tell me we can't find 38,000 black votes in Tarrant County. What's the message, though?

What's the message that would do that? Like you said, Republicans are vibes. You said it. What's our vibe? We're scared to call a thing a thing. You're racist. Our vibe is break your fucking back. The State House just ran your legislators

You're trying to say to take away your right to vote. Come on. This racist DA is stopping you from being able to vote. So that is the message. If we're going to call it out, we have to call it out. And again, Mustafa, I'm using Montgomery for a reason. And I hate when black people bring up Montgomery talk about the boycott. But you can't talk about the boycott if you don't deal with the women's political organization.

that actually was planning the boycott. That was Joanne Robinson and those women. So when they got sick and tired, because what people don't understand, she sent a letter to the bus company the day after the Brown v. Board of Education decision saying desegregate. This has been going on for a year.

She was one of the people who was denied seating up front. And when that day happened, When the phone call came in, she grabbed two Alabama State students, went to the basement of the president's office, mimeographed those copies, called nine sisters and said, we're dropping them off, dropped the pamphlets off. That pamphlet was disseminated to 50,000 black people, and the only reason the white people found out because a black housekeeper got it and gave it to her white master. and Joanne said they were initially pissed she said but what happened was all the press was there at the church that night

and they actually spread the message a lot faster but that thing was done covertly nobody white in Montgomery had any idea and then she said because she worked to the Alabama state and there were other professors they did not want folks to lose their job so they sacrificially step back and said to the preachers y'all take it from here

But it doesn't happen unless those black women were already organized and had a plan of action. That's what has to happen in Taryn County. We keep saying, we went to Kansas City, the urban league, and they were like, people would turn to vote. I'm like, you hope they turn out to vote. No, you got to go knock on the doors and already know who's going to come out to vote. That's right. And not, you hope they turn out. That's right.

In Montgomery, they understood, you know, when folks said loose lips sink ships. So they understood that they had to keep things tight. They had to have the strategic plan. They had to make sure that people were not only motivated, but they also had to understand what does the goal look like, you know, as we move down the road. Y'all were talking about, so what is the talking point around what's going on to Sister Mason?

It is about a legal lynching. It is about a legal lynching that continues to happen not only to her, but continues to happen throughout the black community all across this country. That's right. folks get that, right? Because they understand how lynching has impacted our communities, and they also understand how the legal system has played a role in that. Yes. And they also should have the understanding of how your vote can actually change that. So our dear sister talk about the DA, right?

Most folks don't understand how their vote plays into having the DA in there. So we have to make sure that we're utilizing language that our people can actually resonate with, that actually moves through our DNA because of everything that we've been through. There it is. decade upon decades. So that's the way that I operate. I make sure that I'm creating, you know, the imagery and the words that are necessary for folks that

I'm working with to really get what's going. So, Crystal, I'm sorry, Sir Riesie. If you say free Crystal Mason, you free Crystal Mason if you defeat his ass. That's true, but I think we need to confront the fact that in our community, as opposed to in Montgomery,

there are a lot of people who feel very comfortable with black women being punished. And Republicans understand, that when you put a black woman out front oh well look at what La Monica McIver she is still facing federal

charges trumped up charges for some bullshit and we barely hear about it we've talked about it on this show of course in another black media spaces but is there an uproar? They tried to censure her this week. Why isn't there uproar? Because

black women are unprotected in this country including in our country but wait wait wait hold on hold on Let me give a couple more examples. Let me give a couple more examples. This administration has shown time and time again when they attack black women, there's very little response. 300,000 black women have lost their jobs, and there's a shoulder shrug to that. Adriana Smith was kept on life support. She was an incubator for a baby for months, and she was taken off life support, and it was very little fanfare.

about it. And so the problem with, I wish in the depths of my soul that we can make a black woman the poster board and say an injustice against the black woman is an justice against our entire community. But we are seeing each day

the way that this administration is proving that not to be the case. And we're seeing with Crystal Mason's case, as abhorrent as this has been in as much coverage as this has gotten on your show, it has not moved the needle. And I'm going to go back to Stokely Carmichael. Quimer Trey.

But he's a man. No, no, no, no, no. But this one expose the absurdity of this lens. No, no, no, no. For me, the issue is not, for me the issue is not because it's a black woman and black man. I'm telling you it's not the issue. No, no, no, no, here's to, here, what I think was the, it's the information, the issue. You're talking about it all the time.

But here's the, but here's the fundamental issue. This is just a very clear of the fundamental issue. Carmichael said, you can't show me an African American who has made a difference for our people who did it as an individual. They did it through an organization. The problem in Tarrant County, and the problem, and I go back to when I say you get a whole generation of people of baby boomers who were the glue in our community, what has happened is we've had folks who believe that, well, if I individually tweet, individually post, or do my thing, it's a difference. No, the only way this thing happens in Tarrant County. The only way you can activate the Black Belt in North Carolina, that's East North Carolina. The only way you can activate Black Rural Georgia is there has to be an infrastructure and organization through which people can work through.

So when they say, hey, okay, I'm down with this, Racy. Where do I sign up? Who do I call? And if that doesn't happen, if I, and I, this is the problem, I can't. I literally right now cannot tell the audience call this person over this group to do that. And when you start looking at cities around the country, that is what has happened. We have leaned for years on our legacy civil rights groups. That ain't it.

So if that ain't it, all right, then what's the entity? you know, seriously what you teach, which is why I have consistently challenged the D-9 and the Prince Hall-Masons and the Eastern Star and the links in all these groups. We have black infrastructure, but our black infrastructure is used for personal gain, inward gain, and not external black gain.

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So go. Okay, real quick. And don't get the finger. Go. Anyway, so real quick. To your point, I'm a strategist, and I'm always advocating what's the strategy, what's the strategy. It can't be inward.

be personal, right? Rosa Parks is a great example. The Plessy v. Ferguson is a great example. These were strategic cases, right? Rosa Parks was not just this tired old black woman on the bus. No, she was chosen, right? And she had the entire infrastructure of the NAACP supporting her in that effort. Plessy was a strategic moment in history where they knew what the outcome was going to be and they were prepared for that moment. The strategic piece is minimal. The strategic piece is missing in the messaging, in the execution, and I just want to say, you know, the way in which the Republicans understand how to pull on those pressure points, we don't understand MAGA the way Republicans understand other groups in this country and culture.

Hello, Eugene. Randy, go. And we need to stop being so satisfied when we get a little piece of something. What you're saying about our social groups is absolutely right. And I believe that it became individualistic, and we feel like, oh, we've made it because I'm in this group and I'm in that group, and we don't have to serve, the groups don't have to serve a greater purpose. We're so worried about the deputy Trump ball and the boule. Or whether we're going to

lose our 501c3 status. Absolutely. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying those things aren't valuable. But we have the power. I was just saying there's a group 17,000 members strong or something. What are we doing? I don't want to see a letter that we're writing that we're disappointed and what happened, but what are we doing? If we have this power, we owe it to our people

and to think that we have overcome is crazy. We need to pay attention and realize we haven't overcome and there's work to be done. Before I go to Eugene, I'm going to say this right now, and this is the challenge. The person who is fighting the hardest in Tarrant County is County Commissioner Lisa Simmons. Yes. And I'm going to say this right now. I do not understand why in the hell every single one of you members of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated is not going hard

for your sorrow. You're right. You do not have to take a vote. You do not even have to discuss it in your organization. Every AKA in Tarrant County can join together and rise up and say, we are going to stand with our assistant. Y'all ain't even got to wear pink and green. You don't even have to wear, no, no, no, no. Because, see, we're going to stand with our assistant. You're going to Here's the problem.

Our D-9 organizations are so scared that we tell folks, don't wear your colors, don't wear your letters, because we might get sued. So the point I'm making is, if there is an organization in Tarrant County that could serve as the central mobilizing vehicle, it's the AKs in Tarrant County, because it is your sorrow

who they racially gerrymandered out of a position. Oh, hold up. And by the way, for all you A.Ks in Taryn County who, like, why he calling us out, it was your AKA Joanne Robinson, who was the one who came with this in Montgomery. So that's in your DNA. So we're talking about who should be there. That's the perfect vehicle to drive this thing home, and it don't matter if Crystal not in a sorority. Because when you stand up for Crystal Mason, you're standing up for black girls,

black women, black men as well. So I'm just simply saying, if we want to know where you can go, it can start with the AKs in Taryn County, and then the AKs in Taryn County could call on the Delver's in Taryn County, and the Zetas in Taryn County, and the Sigma Gama Rose is in Tarrant County,

and then the Black Fraternity's in Tarrant County. And now all of a sudden, you're going to have thousands of black people mobilize and organize to drive this campaign home, and let's see what y'all going to do. Eugene, Rebecca, go. So, real quick, I actually agree. Probably you don't even need to make Crystal Mason the face of this.

But what you should do is go down to the courthouse, find the last 10,000, 15,000 cases that his office prosecuted. This data is out there. Use the data same way Republicans use it. Those people target every last one of their family members above 18. Oh, you got that. And the jail, dozens of people have died in that jail because of this sheriff. But rolling, but rolling, the thing is that.

That's right. You got 10,000 folks. If you're targeting five or six per person, you've been margins right there. I got you. I got it. Go. But even worse, there's a lot of black men who have been killed in Tarrant County by law enforcement and there hasn't been charges brought. So there's a ton of things. But what I would say is I talk to people on the ground in Tarrant County. I talk to them all, what are y'all going to do to get this? What are you going to do to get this district attorney out of office and to find someone who's actually going to be responsive to the community? And the response that I got back from these people was, oh, well, we're waiting. for the Democratic Party. Wow. No. And so this is my point of that. In strategy and strategic planning,

you have the strategy, you have goals, and you have tactics. The Democratic Party can be a tactic, but it should never be the strategy. And that's why I keep saying this is not a party thing. This is a black thing. And I need black people.

Don't depend on a party, which is why I keep telling people, give your money to black voters matter, give it to untow freedom, give it to black organizations who are on the ground who you're going to spend it with our people because that's how you actually change this thing. That's how you can actually shift this.

And I'm telling you, if what we're laying out, Tarrant County can be taken. Yes. It's there for the taking. The problem is it has not been organized and has not been mobilized. And if you then take Tarrant County in November

and you target next year, then you can take those congressional seats. And guess what? They're Republicans all across Texas. who right now are afraid because they've gone so far with these racially gerrymandered maps, they're like, wait a minute,

there's a lot of black people who have now been shifted into Republican districts and they could, so literally there are 10 Republicans who are like, we could get taken out because of what we just did,

but they will never be taken out if we stay at home. Folks, it's our seventh anniversary here. I'm rolling on unfiltered, fourth anniversary of Black Star Network. We want to appreciate everybody who supported us. normally we have a big party.

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Thank our staff as well. I'm trying to think. Yes. Make your vibe. Make your vibe. McKinzy, sit your ass down. She just got here. Sit out.

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How do you let Lisa come? Carol. How do you let Lisa come? Carol. Care. How do you let Lisa come to work at Lisa? but come on to the black side Lisa you got way more freedom over here

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