#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 8.1 RMU: #DemDebate analysis; Chicago Moms fighting gun violence slain; 11-yr-old schools Fox News

Episode Date: August 5, 2019

8.1.19 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: #DemDebate analysis; Flint residents watching the Dem Debate still don't know if their water is safe; When #EricGarner's death was mentioned, Mayor Bill de Blasio' heck...lers were arrested; Two Chicago Moms fighting against gun violence were slain; A Water Valley Mississippi man is brutally attacked by cops; FBI says conspiracy theories are a new domestic terrorism threat; 11-yr-old schools Fox News - #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: 420 Real Estate, LLC To invest in 420 Real Estate’s legal Hemp-CBD Crowdfunding Campaign go to http://marijuanastock.org Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an iHeart Podcast. Today is Thursday, August 1st, 2019. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, debate night round two for the Democratic candidates. We'll show you what you might have missed. Did Cory Booker really talk about Kool-Aid? Black Voters Matter held a watch party in Flint, Michigan, where the residents are still wondering if they can drink the water.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Also, the issue of Eric Garner's murder came up when Mayor Bill de Blasio spoke, and some of his hecklers were arrested. We will talk with Tameka Mallory, who was right in the middle of that. Two black women fighting to save the community in Chicago. Gunned down on a street
Starting point is 00:00:56 corner. What the hell is going on? And a Water Valley, Mississippi man is brutally attacked by police officers, according to his attorney. And the FBI says conspiracy theories are a new domestic terrorism threat. Plus, an 11-year-old reporter, schools a Fox News anchor. That really ain't that hard. It's time to bring the funk.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I'm Roland Mark unfiltered. Let's go. He's got it. Whatever the miss, he's on it. Whatever it is, he's got the scoop, the fact, the fine. And when it breaks, he's right on time. And it's Roland. Best believe he's got the spook, the fact, the fine And when it blinks, he's right on time And it's rolling, best belief he's knowing Putting it down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks
Starting point is 00:01:35 He's rolling, yeah It's Uncle Roro, y'all Yeah, yeah It's rolling, Martin,. Yeah, yeah. It's Roland Martin. Yeah, yeah. Rolling with Roland now. Yeah, yeah. He's funky, he's fresh, he's real the best.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You know he's Roland Martin now. Martin. All right, folks, last night, round two, Democratic debate on CNN. Y'all know I didn't watch. I told y'all, but I saw some clips of some back and forth. Senator Kamala Harris, Vice President Joe Biden, folks got into it. Even Senator Cory Booker brought up some Kool-Aid. Here's a roundup of what took place last night i want to bring the conversation back to the broken criminal justice system that is disproportionately negatively impacting black and brown people all across this country
Starting point is 00:02:42 today now senator har Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor president, but I'm deeply concerned about this record. There are too many examples to cite, but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana. She blocked evidence. She blocked evidence that would have freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. She kept people in prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California. And she fought to keep cash bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way? The fact is that the bills that the president, that, excuse me, the future president here,
Starting point is 00:03:27 that the senator's talking about are bills that were passed years ago and they were passed overwhelmingly. Since 2007, I, for example, tried to get the crack powder cocaine totally disparity, totally eliminated. In 2007, you became mayor. You had a police department that was, you went out and you hired Rudy Giuliani's guy. DISPARITY TOTALLY ELIMINATED. IN 2007, YOU BECAME MAYOR. YOU HAD A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS YOU WENT OUT AND YOU HIRED RUDY GIULIANI'S GUY.
Starting point is 00:03:49 YOU ENGAGED IN STOP AND FRISK. YOU HAD 75% OF THOSE STOPS REVIEWED AS ILLEGAL. YOU FOUND YOURSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE THREE TIMES AS MANY AFRICAN-AMERICAN KIDS WERE CAUGHT IN THAT CHAIN AND CAUGHT UP. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CAME AFTER YOU FOR SAYING YOU WERE ENGAGING IN BEHAVIOR THAT WAS INAPPROPRIATE. and caught up. The Justice Department came after you for saying you were engaging in behavior that was inappropriate. And then, in fact, nothing happened the entire time you were mayor. Thank you, Senator Booker. You want to respond? Well, first of all, I'm grateful that he endorsed my presidency already. But I'll tell you this. It's no secret that I inherited a criminal police department with massive problems and decades-long
Starting point is 00:04:23 challenges. But the head of the ACLU has already said, the head of the New Jersey ACLU, that I put forth national standard setting accountability. Mr. Vice President, I didn't interrupt you. Please show me that respect, sir. We have a system right now that's broken. And if you want to compare records, and frankly, I'm shocked that you do, I am happy to do that. Because all of the problems that he is talking about that he created, I actually led the bill that got passed into law that reverses the damage that your bills,
Starting point is 00:04:56 that you were, frankly, to correct you, Mr. Vice President, you were bragging, calling it the Biden crime bill up until 2015. Thank you, Senator. Vice President Bunn. Number one, the bill he talks about is a bill that in my, our administration, we passed. We passed that bill that you added on to. That's the bill, in fact, you passed. And the fact of
Starting point is 00:05:15 the matter is, secondly, there was nothing done for the entire eight years he was mayor. There was nothing done to deal with the police department that was corrupt. Why did you YEARS HE WAS MAYOR. THERE WAS NOTHING DONE TO DEAL WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS CORRUPT. WHY DID YOU ANNOUNCE IN THE FIRST DAY A ZERO-TOLERANCE POLICY OF STOP AND FRISK AND HIRE RUDY GIULIANI'S GUY IN 2007 WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET
Starting point is 00:05:36 RID OF THE CRACK COCAINE SPIRAL? MR. RICE PRESIDENT, THERE'S A SAYING IN MY COMMUNITY, YOU'RE DIPPING INTO THE KOOL-AID AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THE FLAVOR. YOU NEED TO COME TO THE CITY OF NORTH AND SEE THE REFORMS THAT WE PUT IN PLACE. THE NEW JERSEY HEAD OF THE ACLU Kool-Aid and you don't even know the flavor. You need to come to the city of Newark and see the reforms that we put in place. The New Jersey head of the ACLU has said that I embrace reforms,
Starting point is 00:05:52 not just in action, but in deed. Sir, you are trying to shift the view from what you created. There are people right now in prison for life, for drug offenses, because you stood up and used NOW IN PRISON FOR LIFE, FOR DRUG OFFENSES, BECAUSE YOU STOOD UP AND USED THAT TOUGH ON CRIME PHONY RHETORIC THAT GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ELECTED BUT DESTROYED COMMUNITIES LIKE MINE. THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE PAST, SIR. THIS IS ABOUT THE PRESENT RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE IN REDEMPTION. I'M HAPPY YOU EVOLVED. I WANT TO BRING IN SECRETARY.
Starting point is 00:06:20 BUT YOU OFFERED NO REDEMPTION TO THE PEOPLE IN PRISON RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO BRING IN SECRETARY. YEAH, LET'S TALK ABOUT MATH. Yeah, let's talk about math. Let's talk about math. Let's talk about the fact that the pharmaceutical companies and the insurance companies last year alone profited $72 billion. And that is on the doing to American families. In America today, a diabetes patient's one in four cannot afford their insulin. In America today, for those people who are overdosed from an opioid, there is a syringe that costs $4,000 that will save their life.
Starting point is 00:07:04 It is immoral, it is untenable, and it must change with Medicare for All. A lot of other stuff happened. Let's break it down with our panel. Dr. Julianne Malveaux, economist, President Emerita, Bennett College, Joseph Williams, senior editor, U.S. News & World Report, Michael Brown, former vice chair, DNC Finance Committee. First off, you had, of course, Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard. She goes after senator kamala harris about her record there uh how do you think senator harris handled uh
Starting point is 00:07:30 the the question of the charges from uh tosi gabbard i was disappointed actually kamala kamala harris a friend bayers native um i think she did so well in the first debate i think she did less well this time she's great on offense she's less well on defense and that meant that she kind of equivocated now the sister was a prosecutor what do prosecutors do prosecute prosecute so people going back on her record saying she was a prosecutor yeah that's what she did that's what she ran for I think Tulsi Gabbard everybody knew that she was gonna go after Kamala it was reported in the media and so camilla should have been much better prepared she could have eviscerated eviscerated her and she didn't do it here's the deal joseph the reality is um there
Starting point is 00:08:15 are going to be things a prosecutor has done that people are going to disagree with uh when you when gabbert talked about uh the withhelding of evidence. At the end of the day, it either happened or it didn't. And for me, if it happened, that's when you say it was a screw-up, we shouldn't have taken that position, you apologize for it, then you move on. What you don't do is try to do what Joe Biden did with the criminal justice reform bill, where you try to explain away, oh, no, you try to create an alternative reality versus coming out like there are some things that you actually screwed up. But as a prosecutor, you're going to be challenged on any number of things uh she talked about oh you laughed about smoking marijuana i'm i wouldn't be surprised
Starting point is 00:08:53 somebody said well smoking marijuana and selling marijuana are two separate things uh but at the end of the day um i don't think she uh the response was strong enough and And she should have, that was going to come up. And I think what's going to happen, every other person who's running is going to look at that tape and say, in the next debate, I'm going to be hitting Harris on her record as DA and as Attorney General. Yeah, because you're looking for a moment. You're looking for a breakout moment. And those breakout moments, with her record as a prosecutor, they're practically littered all over the place. I mean, there are judgments.
Starting point is 00:09:27 This is the way the criminal justice system works. And if you're trying to explain away, you've already lost the argument. But she should have been better prepared. I agree with Julianne. And the thing is that Biden's, by contrast, Biden was involved with this from the jump. He was writing the laws as they were happening. And so you've got a different dynamic. Somebody who writes the laws and somebody who's charged with enforcing them, there's discretion
Starting point is 00:09:48 either way. But I think at the end of the day that the record of a prosecutor is a lot more difficult to defend than the record as a senator who wrote the laws. Especially, Michael, the record as a prosecutor a decade ago is different than a progressive prosecutor today. So when she says, I was a progressive prosecutor, a progressive prosecutor when she was a DA, it looks totally different than Craster today in Philadelphia. It's different than Fox in Chicago. It's different than Wesley there in St. Louis. It's a different view.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I don't know why on some of these answers people don't say, you know, what times have changed. And maybe I've even evolved. It's easy and then you're able to move past it. I think people are getting so wrapped up in trying to defend and they don't want to be wrong. They don't want to say sorry. Because the deal is, if I admit I was wrong, I got to admit again and again and again.
Starting point is 00:10:40 But what's going to happen, Michael, is at some point, if you like Biden, if you stay stubborn on it, they're going to keep tagging you until you go ahead and finish. No, absolutely. And that's and that's I think the challenges we'll see. Obviously, this is this field is going to whittle down. But I still you know, you've heard me talk about this and I will still contend to say it. I don't care who the last people are. The electoral electoral college map.
Starting point is 00:11:04 It is what it is, except for five states. And it has to be somebody that can win those five. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Minnesota, and... Virginia, Florida. Virginia, Florida, go back and forth.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I think Virginia's in the middle. That's my fifth. Pennsylvania. I'm sorry. Well, Pennsylvania and Pennsylvania. But I got to ask y'all this here, because, look, I listen to all these ridiculous cable news shows that I can't even bother to watch. And all of these people upset, like, oh, my God, they were going after Obama.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Okay. Black people. Let me help you all out. Zoom out. Zoom out. Zoom out. So I need y'all to zoom out. so my fans is my fast okay this is my fast black people listen to me he ain't jesus
Starting point is 00:11:56 i swear for black people it's jesus m-o-k obama let me also help you out, Joe Scarborough and Mika and Meghan McCain and all of y'all out there who are the Democrats have a 97% favorable rating of Obama. A favorable view of Obama does not mean he is above being critiqued. When you heard people last night, I want y'all to weigh in on this, criticize Obamacare. Let me remind those of you who forgot the reason the Affordable Care Act was unpopular. Was it because folks hated it? Republicans hated it. A lot of Democrats felt it didn't go far enough. The problem, how the mainstream media framed the Affordable Care Act, the Affordable Care Act is grossly unpopular among Americans. No, it was unpopular because many people felt there was to be a single payer. I think it is ridiculous for people to act like you can't critique Joe Biden or critique Obama as if he was infallible, as if you can't say, you know what, I like how that was done. I've done it.
Starting point is 00:13:18 White House didn't like it. And I don't give a damn they didn't like it. I still say he should have picked the black woman for the Supreme Court. Absolutely. Absolutely. But this notion, Joseph, that you can't say anything critical of eight years of Obama in a Democratic debate is idiotic to me. Well, it's bogus. I mean, it's not like none of these criticisms have ever been out there before, right? And it's not like they're going to criticize him in the 2020 campaign. That's all Trump did in winning the White House. And not to mention the fact that you mentioned the Affordable
Starting point is 00:13:50 Care Act and that people felt like it didn't go far enough. Let us also recall that there were a lot of conservative Democrats who felt it went too far. And that's part of the problem. I mean, Roland, you interviewed me on my book, Are We Better Off? Race, Obama and Public Policy, which I got my butt kicked by black people who feel like, how dare you criticize Obama? Well, the fact is that the man was better than his alternative, but
Starting point is 00:14:14 he certainly was not perfect. And could have been better! Could have been! But this, but this, but all these people, like, Democrats, what are you doing? You shouldn't be up there criticizing Obama. So the line that... Hold up. He was in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:14:29 A lot of people are still pissed off when he drank a glass of water in Flint and said everything is great and flip people saying no, it's not. And or would he allow Detroit to go into bankruptcy and there were interventions that could have occurred that did not occur because he refused to allow the HUD and others to intervene there but even more than that I mean now all these people are in love with reparations I got tape who I asked the man about reparations he said turn the camera off because that's a funny moment but anyway because he was like reparations I'm not gonna have that
Starting point is 00:15:03 in the same sentence with my name. More importantly, are we better off? The fact is that black people are not better off because of the Obama presidency. And he did some things that were neoliberally great, but he also did some things that ignored our communities. And when you looked at poverty, when you looked at unemployment, I could call the role of economic indicators. It was horrible. Cory Booker said something to Joe Biden that we really need to reprise. He said, you can't have it both ways on Obama. You can't lift him up. I was his vice president. If he thinks I'm okay, I'm okay. But then you don't want to respond to the question that Julian Castro asked about immigration. You can't have it both ways. All I'm saying, Michael, and again, this is the
Starting point is 00:15:47 issue that I have, which is why I can't watch most of these cable news shows. Because it's as if nuance doesn't exist. It's as if people are so dumb that, oh no, you shouldn't say a word about the man.
Starting point is 00:16:04 First of all, he know that what Democrats would disagree with him while he was in the White House. I saw no issue. I saw no issue with people saying on these issues, Mr. Vice President, where were you? Where were you on deportations? Where were you on this? Yes, Obama was nicer about deportations but they still have trump is but they still have i just i just don't just like i don't believe that if you're republican running you couldn't say jack about george w bush or ronald reagan or george hw bush you can offer a critique and not be nasty not be mean-spirited i was actually just about to say that about Ronald Reagan.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Ronald Reagan, Republicans want to put him on Mount Rushmore. You can't, you can't, you can't. The 11th Commandment. You're right. You cannot say anything bad about Ronald Reagan or you'll be kicked out of the Republican Party. Not this Republican Party, the old Republican Party. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:59 But going back also to part of the issue related to some of the crime bill of 1994. You know, there was the assault weapons ban was in that bill. Women, domestic violence was in that bill. And black mayors all over this country were begging Clinton to sign that bill. So again, that's why it's easy to say, you know what, times have changed. You say that and you get past the issue. I saw a document. I saw I think it was the ESPN 30 for 30 that was on Len Bias. That's a good one. And what happened with his death,
Starting point is 00:17:34 first of all, he was a star at the University of Maryland. Number one draft pick of the Boston Celtics. He dies. It's tragic. And what did Congress do? Congress did what congress often does which is the same thing they did after 9-11 and the patriot act they rushed in passed a bill reactive legislation did not listen to the experts say slow it down Let's talk about what the repercussions could be of this bill.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And then they rushed to be willing bias that ushered in a new era of drug laws. And then it was like, oh, my God, what the hell were you thinking? The reality is, to Michael's point, that was the crime bill. If you play back and people say, well, Bernie Sanders voted for it. That's a speech on the floor where he said, it's going to lead to this, but I'm voting for it because of protection for women when it came to assault weapons as well. And again, that's where you can say you're absolutely right. At that moment in time, this is the state of what we were in. This is where I stood.
Starting point is 00:18:47 But as I look back on, we did not anticipate these things happening. And now let's fix them. That's all you got to do. So whether you're Biden, whether you're Harris, whether you're Booker, whether you're anybody, it's okay to say, you know what, at that moment in time,
Starting point is 00:19:10 if I had a crystal ball, that would not have been my position. But yet, to Michael's point, there were black people, CBC members, mayors, there were families who we were in the throes of crack cocaine. It was people who were not alive then. who we were in the throes of crack cocaine. It was people who were not alive then. And this is where I really need people who are Gen Zs and millennial people. That's where you got to stop and say,
Starting point is 00:19:36 can y'all give me a sense of what the world was like at that moment to understand exactly what was going on? You know, Roland, what's interesting, I want to go back to maybe it was like 1990, I'm not sure, when Reverend Jesse Jackson, who has a home on 4th and R Street Northwest, said that he became nervous when young black people walked behind him.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Now, there is no stronger civil rights advocate than Reverend Jackson, no more passionate advocate than our people, but he said he put it out there. I become frightened when some young brothers walk behind me. And so the majority of the CBC went with that crime bill. As Michael says, most black mayors went with that crime bill. There was obviously a media, um, how do I...
Starting point is 00:20:21 almost conspiracy to gin this thing up. It was a hurricane. It was... All these crazy black people jumping people. almost conspiracy to gin this thing up. It was a hurricane. All these crazy black people jumping people. But the fact is that the sentiment of the nation because of this media ginning was that this crime bill was important. There was stuff in it, as you said,
Starting point is 00:20:38 the Violence Against Women Act, which was important. There was some crap. I remember some stuff. They put some money into midnight basketball and other stuff it was all that and so there's a hundred thousand new cops on the street and for everybody who's watching let me help you all out okay so just because i know some of y'all a real special we are not caping for biden we're not caping for Harris or anybody else. What we are doing is explaining to you what actually was happening in the moment.
Starting point is 00:21:12 It's context and it's facts. Now, you can disagree with the end result, but you've got to have the facts of actually what happened. Well, last thing, because I know you're going to move on to another panelist, but the issue, Roland, is that somehow politicians can't acknowledge growth. So what Julian Castro said to Biden is some people have learned lessons and some people have not. Growth is natural. If we were if I was the same person that I was in 1990, I will be a big old fool. And so, you know, just saying and just saying. Yeah. So we must evolve.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And at positions in politics, one of the things I wonder is like, even though it was bad and even the results started to be known. There really wasn't a push to fix it. I mean, we're talking about several successive administrations, right? Crime Bill in 94. And we're talking Obama took office in 2008 or 2009, right? Right. What happened in the intervening years when all these stats started piling up and you show them? People were making money, man. Well, real simple. First of all, real simple. It wasn't a push because people were ignoring black folks until they reached critical mass. And then all of a sudden, when the activists got involved, it began to build up and change, then became a groundswell there. But what happened was it didn't change until people took to the streets.
Starting point is 00:22:29 People were saying, they were issuing a clarion call, but it wasn't until people took to the streets. Yeah, got to force the leaders. That's what did it. And that's why for people who say protests don't work, no, that's where you're wrong. You're absolutely wrong.
Starting point is 00:22:42 All right, folks, also last night, Black Voters Matter, they actually had their event in Flint uh flint michigan at a watch party and so latasha brown and cliff they sent me this video to give you a sense of what they were doing on the ground there in michigan your administration has come under fire after hundreds of children living in new york city public housing tested positive for elevated levels of lead. As you know, we're not far from Flint, Michigan, where residents are still dealing with the consequences of having lead in their drinking water.
Starting point is 00:23:15 How can you assure the people of Flint and across the nation that you are the right person to handle such a problem? We have a huge problem, and it's decades old in New York, but here's what we've done about it. We've declared the eradication of all lead, literally ending the notion of lead poisoning once and for all as the goal of our administration, and we're doing something about it. Lead poisoning has gone down 90 percent since 2005, and we're going to literally bring it down to zero because we're going to go into every place, buildings, schools, public housing, and take out that lead, remediate that lead once and for all. And that needs to be done all over this country.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Now, the federal government used to not take any responsibility for our public housing. For decades, they've been disinvesting in the public housing that was supposed to be a federal responsibility. That's part of why we have this lead crisis to begin with. But I'll tell you what you do when you're actually in charge of something. I'm in charge of the largest city in this nation. You do not accept the status quo. You fix it.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And so we are going into every one of those apartments to make sure those children and those families are safe. And then we are going to eradicate that lead once and for all. And there should be a federal mandate to do the same for Flint, for Detroit, for every place in this country. It can be done. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Secretary Castro, why are you the right candidate to solve this problem? Please respond. Well, because people don't have to wonder what I said. Black Voters Matter. They actually had their own viewing party taking place in Flint, Michigan. They were on the ground this whole week. Here's what took place. We're here today in Detroit, Michigan, as a part of the Black Voters Matter bus tour. And tonight we're going to hear from some voices all throughout this community who love
Starting point is 00:24:58 where they live, but they also care about this country as a whole. And they want to hear and put forth ideas that are going to make this a place where they can live, survive, and thrive. We're going to be talking about, from our perspective, what are the issues that we are concerned about, what do we prioritize, and what do we want to see in our presidential candidates. Just a few miles down the road,
Starting point is 00:25:22 we got all these candidates that are going to be debating, again, talking about some of these policies, and we're going to be listening. We're going to be listening closely to see if they're talking about our issues, and guess what? We're going to be polling our audience so that we can hear from them what is it that folks were talking about or not talking about that you wanted to hear. We talk about minimum wage about, like, the increase of the amount of money that a person gets, but what minimum wage actually does is it gives folks time. Give folks time to like do regular things that regular people do. Like my mother for example, my mom worked two, three jobs.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I played football in school. I did probably like three or four extra curricular activities and she never could come because she had to work that she could provide for us. And even those small things add a value to someone's life that you can't measure. The issue that is present on my heart right now is the candidates addressing climate change. That reason being is because I am in a community that has a high rate of pollution, and the pollution is having a serious impact on our lives. My daughter, Darshelle Chaney, was sentenced to two years
Starting point is 00:26:33 in prison by Judge Miriam Bozzi, who did not really hear the case. That speaks of unjust and unfairness in our criminal justice system. At this present time, I do not have a candidate in mind because I'm looking for a candidate that is actually full of integrity, honesty, and truth, and is going to fight for everyone because we all need justice, we all need peace,
Starting point is 00:27:02 and we all need safety in our lives. This state has power and this city has power, am I right? Yes! This state has the power to decide presidential elections. We are asking for environmental equity, of course, because we know we are deep-rooted in environmental racism, and that means that corporate greed is above community need. Elections are just inflection points. They're not the beginning and they're not the end.
Starting point is 00:27:29 They're just a point of inflection. Now what happens in between that space depends on what it is that you and I do. I think tonight was amazing. This is exactly what Detroit needed to hear from Detroiters, to hear from Metro Detroiters around the issue. The youth in this country are the next wave of freedom fighters. to hear from Detroiters, to hear from Metro Detroiters around the issue.
Starting point is 00:27:48 The youth in this country are the next wave of freedom fighters. They're the next wave of organizing, the next wave of politicians. And as long as we show them the way, no matter what happens in this election, we'll have a country that cares about its constituents, cares about black people, cares about brown people, cares about queer people, cares about trans folks. And the list goes on. And we need a leader like that.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And we need a country that respects and protects everyone and until that day comes i'm going to continue fighting joining us right now co-founders of Black Voters Matter, Latasha Brown and Cliff Albright. How y'all doing? We are doing well. We are riding around in Michigan on the blackest bus in America. You had the event last night. We just showed the video there. How critically important was it to hear this from regular, ordinary folk, not people who could have got a ticket to the event, not politicians, but for the people who are directly impacted by these policies? You know, that's why we wanted to do the event. There were a couple of things,
Starting point is 00:28:54 reasons why we wanted to do it. One is both Cliff and I, we were tired of media pundits trying to say what black voters wanted. If you listen to pundits, you would think that all of us excited about Biden. That's not what we're hearing on the ground. When they're doing these polls, Biden, it might be the candidate that has named recognition, of course, because he was the vice president during Obama administration.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And so if they're asking these polls without context, of course, that's what they're gonna get polling on. But what happens is it becomes the narrative that that's who Black people are supporting and that's who they're excited about. And that's not what we're hearing on the ground. So what we wanted to do is we wanted to go into our communities more than necessarily this be centered around the president, the presidential candidates, but that it would be centered around our issues, that we would listen to our people, we would pull our folks together, listen to them, listen to their issues, and really get a temperature ourselves about what Black voters want.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Cliff, obviously, when you look at the numbers, so much focus has been on Black women voting Democrat, but the numbers don't lie. More than 85% of black men voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. How critically is it important to hear what black men want from the candidates? You know, it's critically important. And what we found is when we do these events, you know, we get a great mixture, you know, both at the forum we did in Detroit,
Starting point is 00:30:23 as well as the one that we did in Flint, we saw sisters and brothers together, all expressing interest. And for the most part, as you pointed out, being very close in the issue that they were picking. And it's really worth noting that both nights, there was really overwhelming feelings that the candidates that were speaking to more progressive issues were the ones that were winning. And we heard that from Black men and from black women. So there's no, it's not an issue of black men
Starting point is 00:30:48 being absent or disappearing, right? And recognizing, yeah, there's a gap. But as you said, 80 brothers, 85, 87, 88, whatever the numbers are in any particular election, that still shows an overwhelming amount of unity in terms of what are the issues that we find important and what are the types of solutions that black men want to hear. And obviously the next debate is going to be taking place at TSU in September. Y'all going to be on the ground? We are. We are going to be in Houston.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So you know if they come to the Dirty South, we're going to be there. So we're going to Houston to somebody's favorite college. We'll be at TSU. Our goal is to be in Houston to do a similar thing. It was really powerful. You know, one of the reflections last night in Flint, there were a couple of things that stuck out for us. So when we were in Flint, we had it at a community center. It was working class folks that were there, that were from the neighborhood and around. And what's interesting, when Flint name came up, we were looking out in the audience to look at the faces of how people responded. And there wasn't like a sense of excitement or, oh, yeah, they brought up Flint.
Starting point is 00:32:01 What we did is we actually asked afterwards. Three things they love with some of the people. One of them said, you know, we don't want to be a soundbite. We don't want Flint just to be a soundbite, a campaign to someone. Another one said, we're happy that people are raising the issues of Flint, but we know this has happened all around the country, and we're hoping that this leads to something greater you know and then the third one well actually i wrote up talked about what is some of the work that they're doing where some of the community have actually worked with the scientists that they met in puerto rico and they're actually working on this they've got this machine that can actually
Starting point is 00:32:39 do condensation and pull moisture out the air to create clean water. And so what they did say consistently is that the Flint crisis is far from over. The pipes have not been replaced. Many of the folks we met at community meetings earlier that day were in bottled water. So here it is, you know, three years afterwards, and we're still talking about the crisis. And what's interesting to me is why do you got to be a president? You know, many of those folks on that stage are states, they're U.S. senators. They're elected officials. Why do you got to wait to be president to deliver? If you're really serious about delivering to your people or delivering to our people, then you would show up.
Starting point is 00:33:25 You just wouldn't show up. All right, LaTosha Brown, Cliff Albright, we surely appreciate it. Thanks a bunch, and we'll see you all at the next event. We'll see you in Houston for the next debate, Roland. Yes, sir. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Keep doing the good work. Thank you. Folks, Sass, Toronto, Chicago, two moms who worked with other mothers to end gun violence in their Chicago neighborhood were shot and killed this week.
Starting point is 00:33:51 26-year-old Chantel Grant and 35-year-old Andrea Stoudemire worked with mothers against senseless killings. They were killed in a drive-by shooting in the Englewood section of Chicago. Police believe they were not the target of the drive-by. Folks, no arrests have been made. Talk about just an unbelievably sad story. We're going to be joined in a moment by the founder of Mothers Against Senseless Killings, Tamar Manaseya. Folks, let me know when we have her on the on the phone here um julian this is i mean to think
Starting point is 00:34:25 that they these these first of all these sisters staying on street corners trying to talk to young brothers trying to talk to young sisters to stop to stop the violence and killings and to think that they end up dead by the same violence that they were attempting to prevent by the same violence they were attempting to prevent and the I won't say it's targeting a black woman because this crap that's happening all over our country the people with these drive-bys you've had so many instances here in DC with children just because fools just feel like they just gonna shoot up a neighborhood but the fact
Starting point is 00:35:05 is that this is a an insurmountable loss Roland yep uh to have these women who are activists who are trying to stop violence being violence victims uh Tamar uh she's the founder of mothers against senseless killing she Jones is right now it is uh I I can't imagine how you and the other mothers feel about the death of Chantel Grant Andrea Stoudemire. Yeah, it's pretty terrible. It's been rough. It's been rough. It's rough. I mean, you know, losing them. But what's even scarier is right now, I'm literally sitting a foot away from where they were shot. We're on the corner right now. And these murderers are still at large. So it's really scary for us still sitting out here and doing what we do every day as kids out here playing now.
Starting point is 00:35:53 How many mothers are in your group? How many mothers and how long have y'all been doing this? This is our fifth year doing this. And it's really hard to say how many mothers it is. It's just, you know, on any given day, this is just moms year doing this and it's really hard to say how many mothers it is it's just you know on any given day this is just moms occupying a lot so on any given day it can be five it can be 50 you just never know what you're going to get from day to day um people come out from all over chicago from all of the suburbs just to hang out just to mom with us that's what they
Starting point is 00:36:22 do so it's not like you got to have a formal membership because honestly people in poor neighborhoods who got money to pay membership do right so we try to make it as easy and accessible as we possibly can to provide so many resources that have been sucked out of this community and what you're doing is so explain to people what you're actually doing on these corners and on these lots um well we're about to start cooking dinner in a minute, but I'm just out here. I'm sitting. You know, sometimes that's what stops the violence, just being present, showing up. You know, in the past week, I've learned a lot about why things happen. And it's kind of like, you know, people have been asking like, oh, what are you guys
Starting point is 00:37:03 going to do different? You know, are you going to still be there? Are you going to do this or that? I'm not changing nothing. I'm not leaving. I'm not staying in my house. I'm not going to lock myself up because I didn't kill anyone. These kids need us out here. You know, we're not going, like, we can't go anywhere. We can't keep
Starting point is 00:37:22 doing that. We can't keep running from this. We have to run to it this time. You said that obviously they have not been caught. What are Chicago police saying? Nothing. They're not saying really anything to us. We started to go funding for reward money three days ago, and we were asking for $5,000.
Starting point is 00:37:44 In three days, we've collected over $22,000 for reward money three days ago. And we were asking for $5,000. In three days, we've collected over $22,000 for reward fund. And we're asking CPD, hey, look, this is us helping you help us. That's what we're doing right now. You said people won't talk. We have a $22,000 initiative. You know, like incentives. You can do that. People are going to talk.
Starting point is 00:38:03 But what they have to do is they have to follow up on those leads that they get now. Fairly and honestly, we need them to do that. They can't say, hey, you know, nothing came out of it or that didn't work just because they feel like it's going to get us, you know, some recognition that they don't want us to have. It's not about that. You think we're not scared sitting out here with two mothers that were just killed? Literally, do you see it right over my shoulder? Yeah, we see it. Like, with mothers that were just killed
Starting point is 00:38:31 out here the other day, do you think we're not scared sitting out here? That's why we came up with this reward fund so we can find these people. The question is not if they're going to kill somebody else, if they're going to kill again. The question is when it's going to happen. It's happening.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's going to happen. And so they have to do it. They have to find somebody. We have to get them before they get us. Because, I mean, they've shot three women in the past month. And the two on Friday night died. It is certainly, as Beyoncé said, our thoughts and prayers really go out to their families to you as well but uh we appreciate you joining us and whatever information you have uh let us know
Starting point is 00:39:18 we'll keep putting out where should uh if people have any information is there a certain number they should call with the police or just reach out to the Chicago Police Department of Homicide? Yep, that's what they should reach out to, absolutely. All right, then. And if people also want to give to the reward, where should they? Is there a phone number? Is there email? Go fund me.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Go fund me. Stand against fear. Hashtag stand against fear. That's the campaign. All right. Take more of that. I see it. We appreciate it
Starting point is 00:39:45 you take care thank you you too bye-bye um man joseph this i mean these are just regular ordinary sisters trying to save their sons and daughters yeah and it's infuriating that they have to do this and what to me is it's almost of a piece with the flint story because you've got neighborhoods that are that are that are broken down and it's systemic and it starts way back here. And we get to this point and nobody has any solutions for it, at least not any that will bring relief right away. And to have women risking their lives, risking their lives just to try to bring peace to a neighborhood, the police department ought to be ashamed. You know, the part of it that almost makes me silent, which, as y'all know, is not a usual thing, is the notion that these police departments
Starting point is 00:40:34 don't take this seriously. So the words, the term Black Lives Matter translates into the resources that go into trying to find these perpetrators. And when black people kill black people, white people don't give a whatever. And so this is something that we have to deal with. And Lori Lightfoot in Chicago, new mayor, but she has the opportunity to clean this crap up. And that I mean, I'm sitting here looking at these women
Starting point is 00:41:05 and looking at the ways that black women stand in the gap for their children and saying, why is it that this is not taken as seriously as when some white girl disappears? Well, it's also an outside of the country global argument too, right? Well, it's very similar to also the also the question uh last night to de blasio about why is that police officer still on duty the one hello there's the politics of the police unions in these cities that makes it very difficult like every mayor says i'm gonna clean up the police there'll be no more corruption every new mayor says that the problem is you got to deal
Starting point is 00:41:42 with the politics of the police union because you don't want to be perceived as either A-soft on crime or you don't like the police. And so that's why it's not... Why didn't de Blasio just fire the guy and deal with it in court if it was an unjust firing? They won't do it because they don't want to put him in the police union. They don't want to do that with the unions. And, of course, you talk about de Blasio being questioned about Eric Garner.
Starting point is 00:42:04 First of all, there were protesters who were in the audience last night in the Fox Theater in Detroit who let their feelings be known. This is what took place. Fire Panther Leo! Fire Panther Leo! Fire Panther Leo! Fire Panther Leo! Fire Panther Leo! Fire Panther Leo! Fire Panther Leo! There were also chants that took place interrupting Cory Booker last night as well. Last week, the president of the United States attacked an American city, calling it a disgusting, rat-infested, rodent mess. We need a nation that understands that these tired, old language, the... Stand by, Senator.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I will stand by. Please stand by. I am a man of the land. I am a man of the land. I am a man of the land. I am a man of the land. I am a man of the land. I am a man of the land. I am a man of the land. Joining us right now, one of those folks, Tamika Mallory. She is the co-president of the Women's March. Tamika, glad to have you on the show. There were people who were saying, how dare they interrupt a black candidate?
Starting point is 00:43:45 You addressed that issue on social media. Yes, yes. You know, it's one of those things, like, you had to be there to understand exactly what took place. And let me just apologize for the fact that I got to get out of my Uber right now. You good? That's why the show's called Roller Martin Unfiltered. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:02 We roll around. So, you know, so yeah, what basically happened was that during de Blasio's time of, you know, his opening statement, when he said that he was able to stop, stop and frisk. Yeah, I know. I'm coming right back. I'm sorry. When he said that he was able to stop, stop and frisk, and he was sort of touting that particular issue to try to speak to uh you know what he's done with police we would not allow that to just go by eric garnett was killed under the practice of stop and frisk and so once he said it it triggered for two of the members of my my colleagues to speak out so my son and also my son lennon excuse me and
Starting point is 00:44:46 minister kearson john so y'all had so y'all had no plans to do this they know it was no there was no plan we didn't organize a protest any of that but when he said it it triggered them to yell out fire pants alejo three two times they said it and so once they finished saying it we were done we were back to the debate, just like we'd been there the night before. There was no disruption from us, but there were other people yelling out different things the night before. And so at the point that the police came, it was about 10 minutes later, they walked over to us. First of all, another security guard came down the aisle right after we finished, after the chanting was done. He walked down the aisle and he came by and asked us, please just be quiet. As long as you're quiet, you can remain.
Starting point is 00:45:37 We won't talk about the fact that black folks in the crowd were like, sir, excuse me, if you want to know who was protesting, let me show you them right here. So we're not going to even get into that. But it's a whole nother thing about self hatred. But once the security guard left, everything was completely fine. Everyone was quiet. About 10 minutes into the debates, if you notice, we make it all the way up to Cory Booker. And if anybody knows how it goes, it's back and forth for different people to get one minute. So when they came over, they wanted to take one person from our team alone. And we said, no, you can't take anybody with you, you know, by, oh, well, we're just going to talk to him. We're not going to throw him out.
Starting point is 00:46:19 No, we're not sending one person with law enforcement. You have to take all of us. And so eventually they began to remove us. And at that point, it was the open season. We had to make sure people knew why we were there and what was going on. And then it became a full-blown protest. The police exacerbated the situation and made it a protest because that is not what happened originally. You posted on your Twitter account, I'm going to pull, excuse me, on your Instagram account where Bill
Starting point is 00:46:47 de Blasio said that he heard what the protesters had to say. But also, go to my page, please. Go to my iPad. Cory Booker tweeted out, to the folks who were standing up to Mayor de Blasio
Starting point is 00:47:03 a few minutes ago, good for you. That's how change is made. Hashtag Dem debate. His social media team didn't miss a beat. That's right. They didn't miss a beat. And I'm sure he had his cell phone back here on his podium where they asked him, is this cool? And he he agreed to do it. And so, you know, I'm glad that that they acknowledged us. That's all good. That sounds good. I'm glad that they acknowledged us. That's all good. That sounds good. I'm glad that Corey used it. It was brilliant of them to use it as a moment to call for justice. And I'm really glad that Julian Castro and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand really used the opportunity to address Mayor de Blasio on the stage.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Eric Garnett became a major point of conversation last night at that debate, and I do not believe that would have happened if we did not make sure that his name was called there. The night before, we got about five minutes on race, and people act like they were afraid to use the word black just the night before. Don Lemon didn't speak about race until almost the end of the debate. So we had to put it front and center. And I'm glad that it happened. Unfortunately, you know, it wasn't exactly what we set out to do, but the Lord works in mysterious ways. And we went with the spirit when it was necessary. All right. Tamika Mallory, always glad to have you on here explaining what took place last night. And I'm sure all the mainstream media people,
Starting point is 00:48:24 you know, misconstrued it and said other crap that's what we call go right to the source on this show thank you very much de blasio cannot speak as a someone who was running for president of the united states and not be able to take care of his own city he has to fire pantele all right to be compared thanks a bunch i appreciate it thank you all right folks folks. Now to the point, Michael. You know, it's interesting with, is it Tamika? Yep. Tamika and the folks for Black Lives, I mean, Black Voters Matter. Thank you for my sweatshirt, by the way.
Starting point is 00:48:56 You know, this energy is obviously wonderful. And what concerns me is obviously we can go back to 2016, and a lot of the Bernie voters were very upset their candidate didn't win, and in November they didn't come out because they took their ball and went home. With all this energy and people not liking number 45, if your candidate does not win, it doesn't mean you take your ball and go home. I know it's hard, but you'd rather have somebody that may be close to your issue than 45. But they're not doing that, Joseph. The reality is, and I've spent time with Latasha and Cliff and Tamika at events.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I've moderated things for them. What their deal is, we're going to hold people to account, but we also are going to mobilize and organize. Well, there's no choice, right? I mean, accountability is one of the biggest problems with the current occupant of the White House. but we also are going to mobilize and organize. Well, there's no choice, right? I mean, accountability is one of the biggest problems with the current occupant of the White House. And, you know, per the discussion we had earlier, it doesn't mean that you are not in favor of this candidate
Starting point is 00:49:56 if you have some things that you think need to be changed. I mean, that's how change is made, by protest. That's how you move people. Talked about it earlier. You've got to get people in the streets. And does matter and holding people to account does matter and holding them to account once they're in office does matter so it's all a part of a thing you've got to get the right candidate you've got to get them in office once they are in office you have to hold them accountable to what they promised you julian you know i wrote a piece four years ago called Head Hillary, Heart Burning. And I was looking at it today for whatever reason. But just thinking about the role the Democratic Party is in now where you've got really great ideas.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And then we've got the pragmatic people who are saying who can beat 45? The person who lives in the house that enslaved people built. I don't call it the other house. The house that enslaved people built. So,'t call it the other house, the house that enslaved people built. So, you know, that's the dilemma always. But the fact is that had we Hillary, we would not have Gorsuch. We would not have had Kavanaugh. We could have lit a fire under her hind parts and made her do the right thing. And that's the challenge.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I applaud Tamika. I applaud LaTosha. I applaud the work they're doing. But at some point, as Democrats, we're going to have to circle the wagons THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. I APPLAUD TAMIKA. I APPLAUD LATOSHA. I APPLAUD THE WORK THEY'RE DOING. BUT AT SOME POINT AS DEMOCRATS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CIRCLE THE WAGONS AND BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE GET THAT IDIOT OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE. AND THAT'S THE HOUSE THAT INSLAVED PEOPLE BUILT. AND THAT'S REALLY THE CHALLENGE. SO I'M FRUSTRATED BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE BIDEN WAS LIKE A PINATA.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I MEAN, EVERYBODY WAS HITTING HIM. HE WAS LIKE EVERYBODY HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. KAMALA WAS LIKE A PINATA. Biden was like a pinata. I mean, everybody was hitting him. He was like, everybody had something to say. Kamala was like a pinata. Everybody was coming at her. What we have to really look at is what do Democrats stand for and the continuum of our ideology and what can get that person who has attacked workers, attacked farmers, attacked working-class white people,
Starting point is 00:51:44 he's gone after everybody, and they are okay with it. But here's the piece, though. That is, you get your best candidate when they have been battle-tested. Iron sharpens iron. And I do believe whoever comes out of the Democratic race will be stronger as a result of being challenged, because it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:52:03 It's going to happen by the Republicans. And you better be ready for it. Because in order to beat Trump, you got to fight. But Roland. You got to fight hard. But how many sound bites are we giving the Republicans? I mean, they're already running these. That argument literally comes up in every single election,
Starting point is 00:52:23 in every single debate. But at some point, it's simple. If I'm debating the three of you, I have to draw a contrast between the three of you to say why y'all should pick me. And so that's the reality. But here's the piece. They're going to bring it up anyway. And so I would rather you go through the fire to deal with this. And so when they come at it, you actually have a much better response in terms of what to say.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Real quick, before I go. That's what Buttigieg said. You know what? If we embrace these leftist ideas, they're going to call us socialists. If we embrace centrist ideas, we're going to call us socialists anyway. They will call us socialists. It doesn't matter. No, he was great.
Starting point is 00:53:01 That point was great from him. Got to go to a break. We come back. More Roller Martin Unfil to go to a break. We come back. More on Roland Martin Unfiltered in See that name right there? Roland Martin unfiltered. Like, share, subscribe to our YouTube channel. That's youtube.com forward slash Roland S. Martin. And don't forget to turn on your notifications so when we go live, you'll know it. Hey, Henry, to go to my iPad, breaking news from Kristen Clark. She said, tweet, we secured a major voting rights victory for black voters in
Starting point is 00:53:41 Mississippi. The Fifth Circuit agrees with us. It's time to put in place a fair map for the Mississippi State Legislature that will provide black voters an equal opportunity to participate in the process. And so there was a tweet she sent out a couple of hours ago. And so great job there, Kristen Clark and Lawrence community for civil rights under law. All right, folks, you heard me talk a lot about marijuana stock.org because I want to keep you informed of investment opportunities that make sense. We've all watched the growth of the cannabis industry. A recent report by New Frontier Data estimates the global cannabis market at more than $340 billion. We know that marijuana legalization is sweeping the country state by state.
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Starting point is 00:55:35 And if you're sensitive to that kind of thing, I need you to turn away. Attorney Carlos Moore, who we had on the show yesterday, said his client, David Logan, was brutally beaten by cops in Mississippi. Logan was stopped in a routine roadblock during which he was told by the officers to get out of the vehicle he was driving. When he did, Moore says his actions were interpreted as running away and he was attacked. Logan was beaten so badly that he was completely naked on the ground before it ended. We will talk with Attorney Moore and David next week. David's going to have a news conference. He's been on Monday, and he said, of course, he'll come on the show, talk about it.
Starting point is 00:56:14 They won't talk about it beforehand, but we wanted to show you that, talk about just an unbelievable story, and we can't wait to hear what he has to say about really what took place there. Folks, in a previously unpublicized document, the FBI describes conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists as a growing threat, pretty much the Alex Jones followers. They list a number of arrests, including some that haven't been publicized, related to violent incidents motivated by fringe beliefs. The document specifically mentions, is it QAnon?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Is that what it's going to pronounce? A network that believes in a conspiracy against President Trump and Pizzagate, the theory that a pedophile ring, including Hillary Clinton associates, was being run out of the basement of a Washington, D.C. pizza restaurant. They're nuts. Trump is mentioned by name as it relates to conspiracy theories. And so, where are you going? White domestic terrorists are losing their damn mind. Now they're going crazy off of actual conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Now, here's an update on the dodgeball case we told you about yesterday. Wayne County Prosecutor Kim, first of all, the county prosecutor in Wayne County has dismissed a case against a 10-year-old boy who was charged with assault for hitting another boy, a white boy, in the face during a dodgeball game. Prosecutor Kim Worthy said in a statement Wednesday that all of the charge is certainly sustainable. The case is being dismissed. I have no doubt that both families involved love their children and want the best for them, but I do think there is a better way to go forward at this time. Thank God for a black prosecutor. Hello. Elections have come. For some damn common sense? I mean, how is a dodgeball game escalated to a criminal charge by crazy, you know what,
Starting point is 00:57:52 white people who have so basically put out this myth of white supremacy that a black child who hits a ball is going to jail? And Mike, the mama said that her son was susceptible to head injuries. Why the hell is that playing dodgeball? Hello, why don't he have a helmet on? No! How about sit your ass down? Yeah, that too. Go play some other game, but don't play...
Starting point is 00:58:13 Michael, you don't play a game involving a ball thrown at your head. No. You sit down. Your mama sit down. Julian, I said Michael. I'm sorry. But damn it, let Michael talk. I'm sorry, Roland. I said I was sorry. Oh, have mercy. You know what?
Starting point is 00:58:27 I defer my time to the doc. That's how it is. Go ahead, Michael. I defer my time to the doc. Joseph. I yield. I yield to my friend. Well, I'm the chairman.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I'm going to claim my damn time. All right, y'all. 11-year-old Jay Jefferson held a master class in journalism on Fox News. Here's what he had to say when asked how he feels about Marianne Williamson. Now, you have, I think that you've had a chance maybe to meet Marianne Williamson, or at least you've been watching her. And what do you think of Marianne? Well, when I think of Marianne, I can't comment on that,
Starting point is 00:59:04 because that's just one of my journalistic responsibilities. That would show some bias. Right. OK. We are teaching people here. OK, I'm sorry. I like Dana Perino. She's a nice woman. But this is what happens when you put somebody who's not a journalist as a show host. Who asked that question? But then again, ain't like Fox News. You're just giving your opinion. Damn whether or not you're an anchor or a journalist or not, Lou Dobbs.
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Starting point is 01:00:50 Of course, if you want to support them, go to denmarktech.edu. That's denmarktech.edu. All right, y'all. You know what time it is. Here we go. Love, love, love. Those are love. Here we go. I'm white.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I got you, girl. Illegally selling water without a permit. On my property. Whoa! Hey! You don't live here. I'm uncomfortable. Two sisters, Shonda Stewart and Lakeisha Shaw,
Starting point is 01:01:27 were enjoying their dinner at Bonefish Grill in North Hills, North Carolina, when a crazy-ass white woman, Nancy Gutman, called them rude and complained that they were being too loud. Here is crazy-ass Nancy in action. So I am shocked because this person has the audacity right here to come to our table and tell us that we are the rudest people that she has ever met. Look at her. She told us we are getting off work. We're paying for our food just like everybody else.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And she told us that we are the rudest people ever. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. What you got to understand is that you don't know what people are going through. You want to come over here? She ain't going to come over here. Yes, she will. Yes, she will.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Don't talk. Don't talk. We don't talk real stuff. I'm talking really good green instead of black, and I love them. We never said anything about color. We never said anything. So here's the thing. Let me understand.
Starting point is 01:02:24 You're too loud. We're too loud. In your opinion. Let me show you my money. It's just as green as yours. Why how you're so stupid? Stupid? So call your black friends a nigga. Call your black friends a nigga. So she basically just called her black friends a nigga.
Starting point is 01:02:41 She's gonna call guys a nigga. They're not like you. All right, y'all. Now, of course, Nancy says she's not racist. But she said, damn it, I'll do it again. I'm a 71-year-old woman who lives in Raleigh. I suffer from tremendous anxiety. I'm not going to say I'm sorry to them because they kept pushing at it.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And that's all I'd really like to say. What about your use of the N-word? I use that word because they forced me at it. And that's all I'd really like to say. What about your use of the N-word? I used that word because they forced me into it. Do you see how that's incredibly offensive? Yes, I do. That's why I said it. So you're not sorry about saying the N-word? No.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Hashtag team, whip that ass. You know? I wish she had rolled up on me. It's the green light, man. I mean, but... But, you know, this Raleigh, North Carolina... It was also 2019 with a certain occupant where that kind of thing is okay.
Starting point is 01:03:36 There's permission. But it's ridiculous. I mean, it's utterly... I hear that Bonefish has now banned her from the place. Hell yeah. Every restaurant in that damn city should ban her racist ass exactly i can't believe it i mean i was looking at like what the block starts at the top starts at the top it does man there's there's there's there's
Starting point is 01:03:57 an empowerment now there's there is yeah absolutely people to say i was uh that's the thing that people don't really understand i I mean, that this... He gives permission for this sort of thing. There's oxygen. There's like, if the president says it, well, it must be all right. And it's okay to stop around, like Nazi garb and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Act like fools. Without hoods. On Saturday, I was out... I got to read this one. Oh, I wish we had video. This is in Oklahoma. Y'all have no idea. I wish we had video this is in oklahoma y'all have no idea i wish we had video oh i wish we had video uh this is from a tv station uh channel nine uh oklahoma y'all gonna love this one a family trip to the pool took a very dark turn july 20th at an apartment complex on southwest fifth and mcArthur in oklahoma city witnesses witnessing police a 28 year old
Starting point is 01:04:44 joshua valentine targeted a black man who was at the swimming pool to watch his kids on Southwest 5th and McArthur in Oklahoma City. Witnesses and police say 28-year-old Joshua Valentine targeted a black man who was at the swimming pool to watch his kids. Police said Valentine verbally and physically attacked the victim with a closed fist. The victim, however, turned the tables on Valentine and, they didn't say this, knocked his ass out. Hey, hey. When Valentine awoke a few minutes later,
Starting point is 01:05:07 he left the pool area, then returned with a baseball bat. Oh, it gets better. Police and witnesses said he swung at the brother, who not only fended Valentine off with a chair, the victim then struck Valentine several times with his fist, knocked his ass out a second time. Police ended up arresting Valentine for malicious
Starting point is 01:05:31 harassment based on race. He spent six days in the Oklahoma County Jail. How come six days and not 60 days? Boom! Knocked his ass out did not did not not
Starting point is 01:05:48 warn white people y'all gonna come across the wrong brother he said sooner or later he gonna get your ass whooped Nancy in the restaurant lucky she didn't get her ass whooped Roland
Starting point is 01:05:59 let me tell you about something that happened to me on Saturday so I'm at the Southwest Wharf minding my business which I do occasionally. You know, my sister friend and I had just finished kayak. White boy walks up behind us and tells us, let me instruct you as to how to stand in line. Wow.
Starting point is 01:06:15 I said, the operative word, how about somebody going to instruct two black women with PhDs about how to stand in line when we're standing behind other people? Of course, I cussed them out, put the stuff on Facebook. Facebook put it down. But this is how they have been empowered. You put what on Facebook? His video. Yeah, I just have this picture. Oh, come on, Julian. You want this picture? How long have you been on this show? It was two of y cussing them out. Oh, you got to take a breath. You got to say, hold up, turn the camera on.
Starting point is 01:06:54 And then say, mother. I did say mother. I said a whole bunch of mothers. But do you know, it was like. How she ain't got no video, y'all. I got his picture. How she got, damn, by this picture tell me he gonna instruct me as to how to stand in line instruct that was the operative word a good ass moment go bye okay roland in future black people
Starting point is 01:07:20 listen to me give y'all instructions again yes ro roll keep the camera on me not on me black people class is in session when you are encountered by a ignorant ass white person a crazy ass white person this was even this is what i wanted to do the moment they roll up on you i want you to do. The moment they roll up on you, I want you to grab your phone. And see, I need y'all people with your Androids to do this here. Understand? iPhone. Slide left. No need to put the code in. If you at the bottom,
Starting point is 01:07:58 slide up. Get the camera right there. If you have an Android, get off the phone, Mike. If you have an Android... I'm practicing. If you have an Android, get off the phone, Mike. If you have an Android. I'm practicing. If you have an Android, there's a camera in the bottom right-hand corner. You press it. Joseph, you got an Android?
Starting point is 01:08:13 Nope. iPhone. Practice. Okay. In the bottom right-hand corner, you press it down and slide it up. No need to unlock. This is the most important thing. I need you to turn your phone sideways.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Sideways. Horizontal. need to unlock this is the most important thing i need you to turn your phone sideways horizontally so that way when i show the video it fills the whole screen no black bars on the left and the right this is how you shoot okay you shoot this way and you shoot the whole scene now dude i need y'all to also be steady i want y'all i want all of y'all at home i want y'all to practice your technique matter of fact, Henry, now go to your wide shot. Joseph, no, Joseph, that's bad because your fingers may get in the way. Look, Joseph, look how this is
Starting point is 01:08:51 done. See this here? Two fingers back to me, back to me. Two fingers in the middle. Index finger on top. Pinky finger on the bottom. You don't put it deep in. This is how you take a selfie too. You don't put it deep in, this is how you take a selfie too.
Starting point is 01:09:06 You don't put it deep, you put it right there, along that line right there. Now you can do this. Now you have flexibility with your thumb. This is how you take a, go wide, this is how you take a selfie. This is how you take a selfie right here, and you shoot video.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Look at us. Now what I want you to do is, and everybody hold their phone up. I don't need shaky-ass video, okay? I need you to stick your arm out. Come on, stick. Come on, damn it. Julianne, come on. All right, I'm sticking.
Starting point is 01:09:35 No, it's vertical, Julianne. Horizontal. You're covering the lens up, Julianne. Other hand. Fingers. She covered the camera up. Look, y'all, if the camera's on the left side put it in your right hand so what am i doing wrong here's the other deal flip it boom left hand here come back to me henry right here see that left hand see that right hand see that left hand see that right hand see it don't matter. Okay? Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:05 That's how you do it. Always know where the camera is. This is how I need y'all to record crazy-ass white people when they saying and doing stupid shit. Because we need to have video because we are trying to get every one of them fired.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Video works. Your picture ain't gonna work. All right, y'all. I have been duly instructed. Thank you very much. We're gonna upload that to be a separate video. Instructions on how to properly identify and capture
Starting point is 01:10:38 crazy-ass white people. All right, folks, thanks for joining us today on Rollerball Unfiltered. Absolutely fantastic show. Tomorrow I'm going to be broadcasting live from Santee, South Carolina, where Congressman Jim Clyburn is having his scholarship tournament. Every year they raise $700,000 in scholarships for 150 scholars. So the golf tournament is taking place on Saturday and Sunday.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I've got to fly in tomorrow. They've got the reception. I'll be broadcasting from there, talking to one of the scholarship recipients. We look forward to that. And so I'm back on the road tomorrow. And then all next week, I'll be on the road for Miami, the National Association of Black Journalists Convention,
Starting point is 01:11:14 vice president for digital. So I kind of got to be there. So we'll see you all there next week. Hit them straight, Roland. Hit them straight. Always, always. You know, it's an Omegas tournament, which means...
Starting point is 01:11:24 That's right. Of course it is. That's why I had to say something. Of course it is. Al's got to win it. You know how that's going to go down. Always. Always. And, you know, it's an Omega's tournament, which means. That's right. Of course it is. That's why I had to say something. Of course it is. Alpha's got to win it. You know how that's going to go down. Oh, my. That's how it's going to go down.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Remember, who's your daddy? Who's your daddy? So, Michael, what's that? What's that? You know what that is. I'm sorry. You know what that is. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I'm sorry. That's a rather small cuff link. Oh. Yes. Yes. My Alpha Life Vemur couplings are larger than that You can see them from across the ocean I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:11:48 Y'all want to support? Mike, you shouldn't have walked in there Come on now You know I always got one in my hip pocket Come on now I always got one in the hip pocket waiting It's your show No, no, no, it don't matter
Starting point is 01:12:02 If it was your show, I would have come back ready for it. Joseph, Julian, Michael, thanks a bunch. And to all of y'all who will watch it next time when you're on the show and they say, Michael, your turn to speak. If your name's Julian, don't start talking. Y'all support Rollerball Unfiltered by going to your not-bred-the-fuck-fan club. Go to rollerballunfiltered.com. You can pay via
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