#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 9.20.19 RMU: Climate change protests; DC Statehood; Deconstructing Candace Owens, GOP

Episode Date: September 23, 2019

9.20.19 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Global climate strike: Millions of young people walked out of school and their jobs today to demand action on climate change; DC leaders push hard for statehood; Leticia Nixon, Gemmel Moore's mother sent a message thanking her supporters for the arrest of sexual predator, Ed Buck. Roland shreds Candace Owens' hill testimony saying white nationalism is not a problem. - #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: Life Luxe Jazz Life Luxe Jazz is the experience of a lifetime, delivering top-notch music in an upscale destination. The weekend-long event is held at the Omnia Dayclub Los Cabos, which is nestled on the Sea of Cortez in the celebrity playground of Los Cabos, Mexico. For more information visit the website at lifeluxejazz.com. - #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: 420 Real Estate, LLC To invest in 420 Real Estate’s legal Hemp-CBD Crowdfunding Campaign go to http://marijuanastock.org Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Today is Friday, September 20th, 2019. Coming up on Rolling Martin, unfiltered. Millions of people all across the world today march to demand action on climate change. We'll talk about what took place here in D.C. and other parts of the world in D.C. This is called D.C. Statehood Week, demanding it become the 51st state. We'll talk with Congresswoman Elder Holmes Norton, who has made this her life's mission

for the last few decades. Letitia Nixon, Jamel Moore's mother, sent a message thanking her supporters for the arrest of sexual predator Ed Buck. He, of course, will be charged in the death of two black gay men. We'll give you those details. Also, today, the House had a panel

dealing with white nationalism and white supremacy. They invited several experts and Candace Owens. I'm going to explain for you why the Republican Party is a joke when it comes to confronting white supremacy by inviting a joke of a guess. It's time to bring the funk and roll the mic on the filter. Let's go. He's got it

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Of course we have other video all across the world. And again, I said, I'll show you had the largest. You had a hundred thousand folks who were in Berlin. Again, you had school children who were marching and protesting in Nigeria. That's South Africa as we speak, as they were protesting as well. It is a fundamental issue.

The United States used to be a leader in this, but with the election of Donald Trump, well, guess what? We have fallen back when it comes to the issue of climate change. Remember, we pulled out of the Paris Accord. Folks are sounding the alarm to say, how do you deal with this environment? We're seeing massive amounts of plastic in our oceans. We're seeing that all, of course, we're seeing lots, losing lots of ice

all across the country that could very well hurt us in a significant way. One million school children in New York City were excused today to participate in protests there as well. Our own Mustafa Santiago Ali was here in D.C., shot some of the video that we actually just showed you, and so here's some of the video that we actually just showed you.

And so here's some of the more video he shot. and we won't be able to have clean water and a livable planet. Thanks. Hi, my name is Jennifer Allen Aros. I'm with the League of Conservation Voters, with NCHSPA. I live in Arizona, and I am here today in front of the Capitol because I am supporting not only youth, but youth who are standing up to demand that we have solid comprehensive action to protect our planet, to protect their future, my future, my kids' future, and ensure that we can all live in a place that we call home for generations to come. A little more. Hey, I'm Lauren B. And I'm here today at the climate strike to support the next generation,

because they deserve it. I'm Moe, and I'm here for the planet. Ari Mondragon from Mexico City right here, fighting for the planet. Yes, kids. I'm Valerie Proctor. I'm from Brandywine, Maryland. And I'm here thinking about the next seven kids i'm valerie proctor i'm from brandywine maryland and i'm here thinking about the next seven generations and all the plants and all the people hi i'm here

because mother earth we need to respect her and this is the only only home oh my name is ellie the coffee my name is roman and i'm here because it's an intersectional movement freedom for people freedom for plants all all our brethren. That's the recipe for this liberation movement, and climate is a big piece of it. Hi, my name is Madison McCauley, and I'm from right here in Washington, D.C. The reason I'm down here right now is because the adults and all the politicians, they haven't been doing anything to help stop climate change. And most likely, climate change is the thing that we're going to have to be living with,

and the thing that our children are going to be living with, and their children, if they're going to even be alive. So the reason that I'm down here, and that we're all down here, is because even though we're not adults, we still have a voice, and we can still be heard. Hi. I'm Asti Dederman. I live here in DC. I go to DCI with Madison. I'm down here because I really love animals and I really have kids with a special voice and that they can really make a difference in the fight to save our planet.

I have my own organization called Epic Animals that's all about getting kids to take legislative action to save the animals. So I really, I think I understand how kids can really make a difference. And the reason that we're out here climate striking today is to share a different point of view about climate change and how the Bible actually supports climate change. And how Christians might have it wrong about climate change.

And to give a different point of view of what climate change is all about. By the way, my name is Ronnie and I'm also from LaFucka Ministries. All right, folks, again, joining us, Mustafa Santay Ali, former senior advisor for environmental justice at the EPA, also on the panel today. We, of course, had Dr. Chris Metzler,

conservative analyst, Amisha Cross, political commentator at Democratic Strategists, Michael Brown, former vice chair, DNC Finance Committee. Mustafa, to have millions all around the world, I mean, this is not a U.S. thing. I mean, the climate change deals with this entire Earth. Every country has to confront this. Yeah, you know, there are 4,600 different events that are happening across the planet over the next seven days.

Folks are literally going to be shutting down governments also and cities who have not been moving forward. So these young people, as folks have heard them say, is that if adults haven't been able to fully engage in the process, haven't been able to protect us, then we're going to interject our energy, our innovation, and we're going to hold people accountable

and we're also going to give solutions. It is stunning to me to see people who sit here and go, oh, this is no big deal, it's a hoax, this is way too much attention applied to it, as if they don't see what's really happening. I saw a story the other day that said, here we are, we have three million fewer birds flying today than 50 years ago.

You look at what's happening with ice melting. We are seeing it melt at a faster rate than we've ever seen, it's so like, how do you think that's happening? Exactly. From fossil fuels. You know, we literally have 7 million people across the planet who lose their lives every year from air pollution, which comes from the burning of fossil fuels, which are also warming up the planet and disproportionate as our communities, African-American communities, Latino communities, who are the ones who are losing their lives because they're the ones that are closest, you know, closest to these types of things. And we're the ones that get hit first and worst from the hurricanes, from the floods, all these various things that are tied into this. So as the ice caps melt, as the oceans are getting warmer, we're going to see more and more of these types of

things. And we, as folks of color, got to be thinking critically about these impacts that are going to happen and how when we have shrinking resources, whether it's water or all these other things that come into play, how are we going to position ourselves to better protect our communities and make sure that the resources are there that's going to be necessary? And what I really appreciate about the youth movement, from the Extinction Movement, from This Is Zero Hour,

the Sunrise Movement, Fridays for the Future, is that they have not only an intergenerational movement, but they also honor equity in that space and diversity and make sure that voices of color are a part of driving the solutions that are necessary. Chris, hardest part is your party just flat out asking if this is no big deal. Donald Trump doesn't exist. He is destroying the EPA.

You go through the Department of Agriculture, you got scientists who are quitting. They're saying that this is an administration that does not believe any of this stuff is real, that this is just a thing of our imagination? Yeah, well, the difficulty here from the Republican standpoint is a number of things. Number one, this has turned so political

that a number of Republicans are saying, OK, do I move forward and get votes by saying this doesn't exist? And that's a whole part of the problem. Do I ignore the science? I mean, you know, I've heard a number of people in the party say, well, I'm not a scientist, so I can't really talk to that. Right. Shut the hell up. Well, yeah.

I mean, if the beginning of your statement is I'm not a scientist... Then why are you talking? That's a good start to shut up and listen to a scientist. But here's I think the fundamental problem with the Republican Party. On this issue, their biggest argument against this, oh my God, it costs too much.

If we no longer exist, to me that's probably the greater cost. Right, right. But the whole issue of we're supposed to be the party who is concerned with science and facts. And I think on the climate change issue, we really have to examine the facts. We have to examine the science. Other than that, we come across

as extremely hypocritical on this issue. But they don't want to deal with the science. They don't want to deal with the reality of it. They want to deny it, and the reality is they are in bed with energy companies. They're in bed with the fossil fuel industry. They don't want to force the change.

You see the Trump administration suing California, just got an injunction to keep it from getting a waiver when it comes to instituting controls, dealing with automakers. Whatever Detroit wants, they got no problem with. You see what's happening all across the country. You see what happened when Pruitt led the EPA. Pretty much they were just being run by the fossil fuel industry. And the hard part is, and I'll say this, these conservative white evangelicals who supposedly care about what God created, they clearly don't give a damn either. It is extremely political,

but to your point, Roland, it is also very much an issue of funding. At this point, the question is more, do they really want to cut off the beast that feeds them, or do they want to continue taking those dollars? When you and your party are making a lot of money

off of industry that continues to emit carbon, when you're making a lot of money off of these industries that are known for dumping unhealthy things in our water, why would you cut that off? It's not that they don't know

the science. Climate science, even though it's getting a lot of traction today, has been around for the past 50 years. And not much of it has changed. The only thing that we have now is a society that is a lot more awakened to it because we see more

of the disasters. We're seeing more of the natural disasters stronger and more often. We're seeing animals die. We're actually seeing people die. We're watching this and it's something that we've been warned about for the past 50, 60 years. Now is the time. I don't want to deal with the political side of this, Michael, but the reality is this here. If you want to examine the political side, you're a Republican party. You are guaranteeing young people will not be voting for your party. Well, and that's the problem. I mean, like guaranteeing. That's a problem we have because it is. In some places, we wouldn't be alive to vote. But this is for a lot of these young folks, the number one issue. The number one issue.

And in order to win re-election in 2020, we have to make sure that from a generational standpoint that those generations are going to show up and vote. So I'm not sure about the political calculus here.

I don't think it's wise. Mike, at the end of the day, for them it's about money. When you hear them say, why should we be spending trillions of dollars, yet this is the same party that has spent $28 billion for farmers, as opposed to the $12 billion the Obama folks spent in the bailout for farmers for something that Trump created

because of his whole tariff deal. They got no problem giving farmers about $30 billion. But, oh, no, we shouldn't discuss this whole climate change thing because it's not real. Well, the calculus they're measuring, and by the... Mr. Ali, good job on the footage, even though Roland was talking about you about the angle. Yes, folks, if you shoot video, please shoot horizontal.

Please shoot horizontal so it reveals the whole television screen, not vertical. I've been giving you all those lessons for months, and I gave Santiago another lesson. Michael, go ahead. But if you notice also the diversity of that crowd, sometimes in these movements, whether it's criminal justice reform, they try to paint it as a black and brown issue. It's going to be very difficult to do this with climate change, with the diversity of that crowd, young people all over the world. And their calculus is, the kind of folks that vote

for us, being the GOP, we don't need young folks. They don't vote anyway. Their percentages are really low. Who cares what they think? That's what they're thinking. That's what they're hoping. But they're going to lose voters. You're going to lose voters in the Midwest who are dealing with these 500-year and 1,000-year floods that are going on. 500-year and 1,000-year floods that are going on. 500-year and 1,000-year floods happen every five years.

Exactly. That kind of don't go together. 500-year flood, not every five years. Yep. And you also have We Vote Next, which is a big youth movement as well, letting people know that they're going to utilize their civic power in this process. And in the far and apart, when people are talking about the money doesn't exist to address this, that's incorrect. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars on these natural disasters that continue to happen time and time again. And we give the fossil fuel industry tens of billions of dollars in subsidies. So we should be subsidizing. I'm sorry, did you say welfare? Exactly. Corporate welfare.

Thank you. Okay. I don't call them subsidies. I call them corporate welfare. There it is. They call, so it's called one handout. Poor folks want to check, they want to check. Exactly. Yes, it's called welfare. Mustafa, great job. We truly appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right, folks, going to go to a break. When we come back, we're going to talk D.C. statehood. And also at the house today, they had a hearing dealing with the issue of white nationalism and white supremacy, and they had experts there, and the one black person who was there was not an expert. I'm gonna break it down for you.

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And folks in Washington, D.C. have been on Capitol Hill pushing them to address the issue. Now, today, excuse me, this week, House Democrats held their first hearing on D.C. statehood in 25 years. The bill, the Washington, D.C. Admission Act, was introduced by Democratic Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton. She, of course, is D.C.'s non-voting representative. Here's an excerpt from D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser's testimony before Congress. And I'm honored to be here today to ask Congress to act upon the request of my residents to admit Washington, D.C., to join the United States of America as the 51st state. I want to be clear. I'm not here to talk about one person, but about seven hundred and two thousand Americans who deserve full representation in this house. I was born in Washington DC and generations of my family through no choice of our own had

been denied the fundamental right promised to all Americans. The right to full representation in the Congress guaranteed by statehood. Over the years there have been a lot of arguments against statehood. Over the years, there have been a lot of arguments against statehood. You're too small, they say, but we're bigger by population than two states, bigger than all states but Oklahoma at the time they were admitted to the union. And what's more, we pay more federal taxes per capita than any state, and we pay more federal taxes per capita than any state and we pay more federal taxes total than 22 states. You're badly governed they say. In fact we do a better job than most states. We have a budget of $15.5 billion which we have balanced 24 times in the last 24 years.

And we already do the things that states do. We operate our own schools. We manage state Medicaid programs. We receive federal block grants. Like states, we issue driver's licenses, license plates, and birth and death certificates. We regulate banks and insurance companies, operate our state-based affordable care marketplace, and we enforce environmental regulations. For the purposes of thousands of federal laws we act as a

state and we do it well. The Constitution forbids it they say. That one is simply false as constitutional experts have repeatedly proclaimed. Or DC can't be a state because the Constitution requires a federal district. The Constitution sets a maximum size of 10 miles squared for the federal district, but it does not prescribe a minimum size to qualify for a federal district or statehood. I'm sure we'll hear some of that again this time, but let's face it. These are bad faith arguments by people who really oppose statehood because they think it will mean two Democratic senators. The fact is denying American citizens a vote in this body that taxes them goes against the very

founding premise of this nation. And yes, it is true that we are more brown and more liberal than some of you. But denying statehood would be unfair no matter who was affected. It would be unfair if we were conservatives from a rural district built around agriculture or an industrial city in the heartland. This is America, and Americans are entitled to equal protection under the law, and that's why we are demanding statehood. It should not matter what our politics are. All right, folks, joining us right now

is Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton. Glad to have you back on Roll About Unfiltered. I'm gonna start this way. Go to my iPad, please. This is a headline from May 2010 in Newsweek. Is Ohio the most corrupt state? I'm starting that way because this week Republicans were trashing D.C. saying, oh, y'all can't be your own state because you can't handle it because you're too corrupt. Yet, if we want to, I would dare say if you had to rank probably the three most corrupt states, Louisiana, Illinois, Ohio.

What the hell? So I had to remind Jim Jordan, who is from Ohio, from Ohio, who is a ranking member of, as they spoke, elected members of their state government being prosecuted for corruption. So who is he to, what we say, call paint the, turn the kettle black? In fact, if you go to my iPad while we're talking, this is from the Cleveland.com, corruption in Northeast Ohio,

this 21st century Rose Gallery violated the public's trust. All of these folks right here, you see, all got hit with corruption in Ohio. Jim Jordan. So it doesn't lie in his mouth to speak against democracy, and that's all we're asking for, for representation for D.C. or anyplace else.

Those are the kinds of roadmaps, props, really, that they are throwing up. But, Roland, let me assure everyone, because we now have two historic back-to-back assurances. First, we had a historic hearing. First time we've ever had that hearing. Today, we got 218 votes, enough to pass H.R. 51, the D.C. statehood bill.

We're coming. And when we get it passed in the House, Roland, we'll be more than halfway there. So watch out for us. Now, you were... D.C. was close a few years ago, am I correct, of getting representation? I think they were trying to add a person in the U.C. was close a few years ago, am I correct, of getting representation? I think they were trying to add a person in Utah. Yes.

And then what was... There we went for a House vote. Right. It would not have been a full Senate vote. And actually, we got that bill passed through the House and the Senate with a House vote for Utah, which had just missed getting one in the last census, and a House vote for D.C. We would have that vote now be on our way to statehood, except that the National Rifle Association attached what we call a rider, an amendment that would have wiped out every single gun safety law in the

District of Columbia. Had to leave that vote on the table. This time we're picking it up and going for the Senate. How offensive is it to essentially live where D.C. operates or the federal government operates as D.C.'s mama and daddy? That you have to go ask them for permission. And then, of course, you've had to fight Republicans and Democrats who have toyed with the District of Columbia.

I remember when they had the voucher program, Republicans put that in, and then Obama pulled it out. Then they played around with abortion. They played... I mean, it's like, you got folks who want to play ping-pong with D.C. when they feel like slapping folks around. Yeah, that has been our fate. But it's all over now. We control the House. And they have put in what we call riders. Must have been six or seven riders. Since January, we were able to get all of

them out. That's why it has been so important for us to establish control, because Democrats don't operate that way. And then we go into the Senate, which is still controlled by the Republicans. But, Roland, you will look and see that many of them are in jeopardy. That's why we're not much worried about 2020 because we're going to do much better there. And if we capture the Senate, look what we'll have.

We will have D.C. statehood in the House and on our way to getting it in the Senate. Well, I think it's certainly overdue, Ann, of course, to have the mayor come right to the chase and put race on the table, not dancing around it. Yeah, she put it on the table because it's always been there. But it's not going to be anything they can do about race now. And the fact is, I don't know what they're going to do about the fact that for most of its 218 years, most of those years, white people have been the majority in D.C. And those years, we all remember them in the 70s, 80s, 90s, you know, blacks. It was called Chocolate City.

Yeah, Chocolate City and blacks became predominant in many large cities. But guess what? D.C. once again has more white people than black people. What you going to do for us now? Well, I say Congresswoman, keep up the fight. We'll certainly keep covering the story. D.C. deserves statehood. And it'll be nice if Congress would actually pay attention.

And they should get over this whole issue of potentially having two black United States senators. This is a whole bunch of sole white states in this country. They got no chance of electing a person of color as a United States senator. So they'll deal with it. And we will. All right. We appreciate it. Thanks a bunch.

Folks, let's go to California where Jasmine Koenig, who has been championing for Jamel Moore's murder being brought to justice, has finally won. Letitia Nixon, Jamel Moore's mother, is so grateful for everyone's support that she sent Jasmine this video to release to the press. Remember, Ed Buck, of course, was picked up and charged for giving drugs to a man for an overdose. Now, on the federal level,

they're going to charge him for the deaths of two black gay men who died in his apartment. This is the video of Jamel Moore's mother. My name is Letitia Nixon. I am Jamel Moore's mom. I am happy. I knew that this day was going to come when we were going to get justice for my son. All I ever wanted from the beginning was for Jackie Lacey to do her job.

That's all. I didn't ask for no special favors. I just asked Lacey to do her job. That's all. I didn't ask for no special favors. I just asked for her to do her job. That was it. Everything was in front of her. We tried to deliver ballots. They treated us like we were criminals. Jackie Lacey wouldn't let us in the office.

Nothing. But nonetheless, I'm just so grateful that my team did not give up and we kept pressing we kept pressing Jasmine Canick and all the rest of my team my lawyers, Hussein, Nana and everybody just kept pushing, I just want to thank

everybody who stood with us thank you so much, we're so grateful I'm just excited and we're all going to get the justice we deserve so much. We're so grateful. I'm just excited. And we're all going to get the justice we deserve. Thank you all. Jackie Lacey is the DA there in L.A.

And I would dare say, Amisha, when she runs a re-election, there's going to be more people lining up to run against her than if Popeye's had chicken sandwiches right now. Because she's been awful. And black people have been really upset. Her office didn't do a damn thing. He's only being charged on the federal level

because her office would not prosecute him for the deaths of those two black men. And this is a black female DA. This case is beyond me, first and foremost, because families of victims, of course those who died, but also those who came near death, because we don't hear about those often. But there were 20 men who almost died from these overdoses. And the families have been petitioning. They have been protesting. They have gone to her

over and over and over again, and she has completely ignored him, ignored them. And I think that it speaks to a greater issue here. A lot of people have pointed to the fact that he was a heavy Democratic donor, but it's more than that. It is the fact that there are a lot of folks and even some who also happen to be Democrats who honestly don't care when the victims are homeless, indigent, gay black men, period. If those victims had have been people of a higher profile, we would have seen action swifter. We did not see it in this case. And it frustrates me that two men literally died and no one cared. First of all, we didn't even hear it in the news until years after it happened after the first one. And the second guy died and it broke news six months later.

It stayed on the news for about 30 minutes. Nobody talked about it ever again. Allowed this guy to go ahead and keep, you know, tracing guys, following guys, tricking them into coming to his place and still injecting them with drugs. He's been doing this for years. It's been an open secret in West Hollywood for a very long time. She's a part of this issue

in terms of not actually, you know, pursuing justice, but there are also a lot of other individuals over the years who have helped him out by ignoring the fact that he's going around West Hollywood and literally taking advantage of a very disadvantaged community. Uh, Michael, we were one of the few shows nationally to really focus on this. Uh, very, very few.

And again, this was real. And to have authorities act as if one guy dies, no real investigation. Second guy dies, no real investigation. Third person commits, I mean, ODs, now all of a sudden, oh, man, I guess we better jump on this whole thing. Well, first, I'm going to co-sign

with what my sister said to my left, but point of personal privilege as the former chair of the Statehood Self-Determination Committee when I was on the D.C. City Council. I want to congratulate our warrior on the hill, as we call her, for moving this ball forward

as we start to start the statehood movement. And she's right. This fight has been going on for quite some time. Every argument has been thrown at us. And now we're making some progress. But I think we also have to remember history. In the early 90s, when Clinton was president, we had the Democratic House and Democratic Senate and did nothing in that first term.

Same with Obama. Obama presidency, Senate, and Democratic House and did nothing. Hopefully we'll learn from our mistakes and not say oh we can take care of it later this is a first-tier priority issue I'm proud of our warrior on the hill Chris yeah I mean you know I agree with with your analysis here and part of the problem with the DA was in in fact, that she received campaign contributions from him. And so from her perspective, it's like, OK,

so do I do justice or do I take campaign contributions? That's part of the issue. But I think you're right. The larger issue is who else was complicit in this? That's the larger issue. We can talk about the fact that he was a big Democratic donor. Okay, fine. We can talk about that. But it is a larger issue. And it is about the fact that, as you correctly indicated, you have this marginalized population who he is

free to take advantage of because nobody cares. And that's exactly, I think, what happened in this case. And again, let's get a black DA there is one thing, but at least one who pays attention. Yeah. Jackie Lacey has been awful. Oh, she's been horrible. And for her not to prosecute this guy first time, second time. And the only reason, the only reason he's being charged is on a federal level. She's not taking out her hands. Right. Out of her hands. She's not charged is on a federal level. Federal level. Now take out her hands.

Right. Out of her hands. She's doing her job. All right, folks. Today, New England, they have cut Antonio Brown, wide receiver for the New England Patriots. I said this when he did the video of John Gruden and recorded the phone call, that of the list of dumbass athletes, Antonio Brown is at the top of that list.

You got that right. Antonio Brown has now cemented himself as the dumbest ass athlete ever. Because how is it that, first of all, a federal lawsuit is filed against you alleging sexual assault, but it's a federal lawsuit. She said this took place in 2017, 2018. She didn't go to the cops, okay? I don't understand why she didn't go to the cops,

because if it was rape, federal limitations still apply. Right. Second allegation comes out in Pittsburgh, okay? The Pittsburgh D.A. says they will investigate. Then the Pittsburgh D.A. comes out and says, federal limitations, we can't investigate. So essentially, on the second allegation, Antonio Brown is in the clear, okay?

Meaning there are no criminal investigations. The first lawsuit was a federal civil lawsuit. This dumbass, and I'm using dumbass for a very good reason, this dumbass decides to I'm using dumbass for a very good reason. This dumbass decides to send a text message to the second accuser.

Let me repeat that. He sends a text message including a photo of the woman's family. Now, you know. Now, here's what's so crazy. His lawyer said,

don't contact your accusers. Criminal Justice 101. Let me say it again. His lawyer said, don't contact your accusers. Dumbass sends a text message. For the second day in a row, Bill Belichick gets hit

with a ton of questions. He walks out of the news conference. You know, he went to his office and was like, cut his ass. But his was crazy. Antonio Brown literally lasted longer with the Patriots than Anthony Scaramucci did working for Trump.

This is a guy, y'all. This is a guy. Let me help y'all out. Okay? This is a guy who had $30 million guaranteed from the Raiders. Lost his damn mind. Lost his damn mind, okay? Lost his mind. Got himself cut.

Then goes to the Patriots, gets signed within 48 hours. Gets $9 million guaranteed. Now, here's the problem, okay? The Patriots gave him the first $5 of the $9 million on Monday, but he ain't even met the full deadline. These were the text messages. Sports Illustrated posted this. He actually sent her this text.

Go to my iPad. Really sad you would make a bullshit story to the world. Thought you had more integrity and respect for yourself. Must be really hard times to make up some stuff for money. Super sad. This the girl who unfinished my painting in my room from something. Super broke girl with a lot of kids. Such a shame.

This her in text Eric B. Let's look up her background history. See how broke this girl is from. Basically cried broke for opportunities. I let paint my room. Couldn't finish. I flew out now to hear this so sad. OK, here's the first thing, y'all. There was no punctuation in that. I mean, that wasn't a period, a comma, question mark, an exclamation point.

Run on sentence. But, I mean, nothing, y'all. Nothing. But, dumb. Y'all, money gone. Uh-huh. Talk about blowing $30 million. You ain't getting that $30 million back.

Nope. I doubt a team signs him this year. I would be shocked. I'll be shocked if he gets signed next year. Because, see, when the Patriots say, I mean, the only other team that's likely to sign a head case is the sorry-ass Dallas Cowboys. No, no, no. They're known for signing head cases.

I'm scared you're going to say my team, but thank you for saying that. Oh, hell no. Hell no. Because you known for signing head cases. Okay. I'm scared you're going to say my team, but thank you for saying that. Oh, hell no. Hell no. Because you got to have a quarterback to throw it to. Y'all ain't got no quarterback. Right. But how dumb can you be?

Chris, you're a lawyer. If you tell a client, don't text the accusers, and the DA says we will not be investigating this case. Your dumb ass sent a text to the woman. Yeah, see... With a photo of her family. Yeah, at that point, I'm done with you as a lawyer

because you a dumb ass. Not only are you a dumb ass, bruh... Oh, hold up, my bad. He sent her a text message with four other phone numbers on it. So it was a group text. Oh, my God.

And he encouraged others in the group to investigate the woman. Lord, Lord. See, this is the kind of stuff that you look at brothers and you're like, really? You cannot be that stupid. But apparently, he is.

He should have let it go. Just let it go. At the point when he was no longer going to be investigated, that means you sit down, you get ready for this season, and you call it quits. Yeah.

Why are you texting? Move on. Why are you texting? Now, you talking about broke. You the one now broke. Hold up, Michael. He gets cut by the Patriots. Yesterday, Nike dropped him. The helmet deal he had after he acted

a fool in Oakland, trying to wear a 10-year-old helmet, he lost. He couldn't do that, so he got a new helmet. They signed him to the helmet deal. had after he acted a fool in Oakland trying to wear a 10-year-old helmet. He lost. He couldn't do that. So he got a new helmet. They signed him to the helmet deal. They dropped him. So now you ain't got no team, no guaranteed money. Lost Nike and the helmet deal.

Bro, I sure hope you save your money. There ain't nothing coming in real soon. He got the sense to text. No sense to text. I'm sure he ain't got no sense to save that money. That's about the dumbest I... Mr. Potato Head Award. There you go.

It just makes you wonder what his end goal was. Because if you wanted to get to the Patriots, you wanted to get to this team that consistently goes to the Super Bowl, cool, whatever. He was willing to burn money to get there. But to get there and to not be able to actually play because of your own doing,

it wasn't that Bill Belichick didn't want you. He's time and time again, he was going to ride that thing on out, but he made it extremely difficult. And send the text. Now, mind you, send the text on Monday, y'all. This was Antonio Brown yesterday. Play for Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. You know, I got a lot of the offense to learn and catch up,

but I'm excited and grateful to be here and be a part of these guys. Antonio, what's it been like working with Tom? It's been a tremendous honor. He's been here a long time, a lot of details, a lot of work ethic. Great guy to be around, just inspire everyone here. What is your process been to kind of get used to everything as everything's going on in your life? Well, it's football.

I'm grateful to play football. Every time you walk in the doors here, you know, be your best for the team. So every time I walk in here, I just want to make sure that I'm preparing to keep these guys in my bed. Antonio, what have you heard from the league, if anything, about your availability before?

Appreciate that question. I'm just here to just focus on the ball and look forward to getting out there in the home stadium and being with the team. Thanks, everyone. That's not going to happen. Not going to happen. Why?

Oh, because you're cut. You're gone. Morality clause. Y'all, he said he's and then, of course, he did have... So let me show you a series of tweets. First of all, this was sent on September 10, 2019. Welcome to England. Grand opening, grand closing.

This was what he tweeted two hours ago. Sometimes people try to destroy you precisely because they recognize your power. Not because they don't see it, but because they see it and they don't want it to exist really and you you use a photo of nipsey hussle yeah there you go all right and so then y'all um he sent this out thanks for the opportunity appreciate patriots well at least it was grammatically correct tweet Tweet right there. And then, of course, let's see here.

Just one more. If I'm lying, then I'm flying. Okay. All right, but you're grounded right now. And then he sent another photo. Bill Belichick, thank you. All right, no job. All I'm saying, y'all,

you, like, I'm saying, y'all, there are things that really drive me crazy. And what drives me crazy is when you are one, you're in the top, you're not even in the top 1%. You're literally in the top.001, whatever you want to come up with, number of athletes. Right. There is no other way. Now, maybe if he wants to start a tech company,

cameras company, whatever the hell, where you're going to have an opportunity to make $30 million playing in the field. You've blown that. Actually, you've blown more because you lost all the endorsement deals. Yeah. And it's just so illogical.

And I would hope that young athletes need to understand that you can have crazy talent, but there's even a line when you got crazy talent. Well, and the question becomes, who's advising him? Apparently nobody. Or he's not taking the advice. And that's the thing that young athletes have to understand. You got to know the rules of the

game. You have to know how this works. I don't care if you got a $100 million contract. The issue is the morality clause. And that morality clause, you lose everything. Period. End of discussion. I fundamentally

believe if he did not send that text message, he is not cut. He would have been absolutely fine. He was actually scheduled to play in the next game. Yeah, but that— It is very confusing to me that this was his move. Again, especially after those—he was never actually—there wasn't going to be a case pursued. Right.

So it didn't make sense to send the text message. It would have made sense even if it was. Get with your boys. Pop a bottle of Cristol. That's it. Do your thing. talk right talk trash among your group right but you don't send her a series of text messages michael with photos of her family and her children and look we're even all the crazy talent you've talked about arguably i don't even

know if it's arguable maybe julio jones whatever arguably the best receiver in the league no the andre hopkins okay fair enough. Go ahead. Okay, I figured you'd say that. We don't have one of those. But, you know, the black coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers said, and everybody said, oh, man, it must be just personality. He said, I don't want to coach this clown. And everybody said, well, if it's not a brother standing up for him,

maybe there is some issues. But, no, nobody bought it. Gruden took him. We saw the drama with the helmet. Didn't want to show up. Then finally did. And then we obviously saw what happened today. Yeah, he has some personality issues that are very real.

And he doesn't take ownership of any of his own behavior. And that's another problem. He's also not technically a young athlete. To even get the deals that he did when you're in your 30s, you're rounding out your time anyway, for the most part. I don't know if it's CTE, I don't know what the hell it is, but all I'm saying is, Antonio Brown, you done screwed up.

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House Oversight Joint Subcommittee Hearing on Confronting White Supremacy. They had three experts and one black person. When I say experts, they actually had real experts on the subject of white supremacy and white nationalism. Now, questions were asked by Republicans and Democrats of the four witnesses. Now, what I'm unpacking right here, and here's the piece, and let's just be real clear. Y'all remember what I said the other day about the revolt summit that took place, why I said it makes no sense to have Candace Owens or Katrina Pearson on this panel. Why? Because they're not real black conservatives.

Let me be real clear. They're not real black conservatives. I know real black conservatives. Okay? Chris Metzler, real black conservative. Shermichael Singleton, real black conservative. Elroy Saylor, Angela Saylor. Kay Nicole James, Derek Holley, Robert Pignone.

I can go on and on and on. I can name you numerous folks who I know personally, okay, who are real black conservatives. These two, they're not. You know what they are? Charlatans. They're frauds. What they desire is attention.

So what they do is they say crazy, provocative things solely for the purpose of getting that attention. Go to my iPad. Here's a perfect example. Okay. I typed in house panel on white supremacy. These are the two headlines. You all see the two headlines, one from one from, uh, Yahoo news, one from the hill. Candace Owens, the House panel, white supremacy and white nationalism is not a problem. The Hill. Candace Owens tells Congress white nationalism

is not a problem for minorities in the U.S. If you actually click on The Hill's story, what you will see is you will see an article that only quotes Candace Owens. That, folks, is by design. That's exactly what she wants.

What she desires is attention. She wants folks talking about her. It's a money grab. It's all about how can I build my following and convince these dumb, illiterate conservatives to keep throwing money at me, and I can get paid. Now, Mark Lamont Hill was tweeting today, critical of something that she said, and this gentleman, Adam Badawi, tweeted back.

Go to my iPad, please. This is what he said. I was there. She wasn't mentioned on the list of witnesses beforehand, nor was she receiving questions because she has literally no expertise on the subject. Later in the hearing, Republicans started ceding their time to her to let her spout. Do y'all hear me? So you had three real experts. What this guy's saying is they purposely kept her name off of the list. Why?

Because the Republicans did not want today's hearing to be about white nationalism or white supremacy. train wreck, completely take the focus off of the issue, attack Democrats, and bring up all these other issues for her that are more important than in black America. If you want to laugh, here's her opening statement. Thank you, Chairman, for the opportunity to testify. I just want to testify just as a black American today. And I want to first start off by saying that white supremacy is indeed real. But despite the media's obsessive coverage of. Yeah. Matter of fact, roll that back. Roll that back.

Yeah, she starts off by saying I'm here as a black person. So essentially what she's saying is, hell, if we're going to discuss white nationalism and white supremacy, anybody black can come here and testify. You don't actually have to have any expertise to actually do that. No. Here are the

people who were invited. First of all, one panelist, Kathleen Ballou, an expert from Stanford University. Another one is Joshua Getzler from Georgetown University. Katrina Mulligan, National Security and International Policy at the Center for American Progress. The fourth one is Candace Owen, College Dropout. Play it again, you're gonna hear her say

what her expertise is on this subject. Thank you, Chairman, for the opportunity to testify. I just want to testify just as a black American today. And I want to first start off by saying that white supremacy is indeed real. But despite the media's obsessive coverage of it, it represents an isolated, uncoordinated and fringe occurrence within America. It's a fringe occurrence that is being used, in my opinion, by Democrats to scare Americans into giving up their votes to a party that can no longer win based on simple ideas, which

is why we're seeing so many of these hearings back to back, despite other threats that are facing this nation. I want to reiterate that point. OK, yeah, it's an issue, but it's really not among the top issues. This is college dropout Camus Owens providing expert testimony on white nationalism and white supremacy. This, folks, is a hearing that took place in July where Christopher Wray, the director of the Federal Bureau for Investigation, testified about the serious threat about white nationalism and white supremacy in the United States. Press play. Between the years 2000 and 2016, the white supremacists were responsible for more homicides than any other domestic extremism movement.

Now, I see the distinction you're making, homegrown versus domestic. But let me ask you, can you quantify either one of them for us? Well, in terms of number of arrests, we have, through the third quarter of this fiscal year, had about, give or take, 100 arrests in the international terrorism side, which includes the homegrown violent extremism. This year? This year. But we've also had just about the same number, again, don't quote me to the exact digit,

on the domestic terrorism side. And I will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we've investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence. But it includes other things as well. I think the greatest terrorist threat to the homeland is the homegrown violent extremist. I will say that we take domestic— This would be foreign-inspired. Which is jihadist-inspired violence. That does not mean, by any stretch of the imagination, that we don't take domestic terrorism,

including hate crime committed on behalf of some kind of white supremacist ideology, extremely seriously. Okay, so I want to go back to the nonsense Candace was spewing. I want y'all to pick up where we left off, because I want to put this in proper perspective for you. That was the director of the FBI testifying to the Senate in July of this year.

Go ahead and play Clueless Candace. ...is real, but neither of these ideologies are real in this room. Go ahead and play Clueless Candace. Much bigger issues. Here is the FBI Director Christopher Wray in March laying out the persistent and pervasive threat of white nationalism and white supremacy in the United States. How would you describe the danger to public safety that is posed by white supremacist extremism. Is it changing in its qualities or in the kinds of resources that the FBI and other law enforcement agencies need to respond? And secondly, the second part to that question, your budget request does not mention white supremacist extremism at all. How much funding and how many employees are dedicated to investigating white nationalists and white supremacist extremists in your fiscal year 2020 budget? So what is the danger to the country and what do you need to fight it?

Well, the danger, I think, of white supremacist violent extremism or any other kind of violent extremism is, of course, significant. We assess that it's a persistent, pervasive threat. We tackle it both through our Joint Terrorism Task Forces on the domestic terrorism side, as well as through our civil rights program on the criminal side through hate crime enforcement. I think as to whether I would see any significant difference or trend there I think or whether it's changing I think I would say in general domestic terrorism in this country has changed in the sense that it's less less structured less organized, fewer groups, more uncoordinated, one-off individuals

as opposed to some structured hierarchy, and that presents its own share of challenges. Now, you might say, well, Roland, what was the whole point of Candace Owens being the only black person there testifying on this issue this 44 second sound bite and the end will really explain it issues at their respect number one father absence number two the education system and the illiteracy rate illegal immigration ranks high abortion ranks high white supremacy and white

nationalism if I had to make a list again of 100 things would not be on it this hearing in my opinion is a farce and it is ironic that you're sitting here and you're having three Caucasian people testify and tell you what their expertise are do I know my expertise are black in America I've been black in America my whole life all 30 years and I can tell you that their expertise are. Do I know what my expertise are? Black in America. I've been black in America my whole life, all 30 years, and I can tell you that you guys have done the exact same thing every four years ahead of an election cycle, and it needs to stop. No, stay with it.

Now we go to Mr. Clay for five minutes. No, go back. That right there explains why the Republicans wanted Candace Owens to testify. Because the Republicans on this committee don't want to deal with white nationalism or white supremacy. What they desire is to have a black woman who loves Trump to come to the hearing to bring up problems in black America, to negate white supremacy, to negate white nationalism, and that's why he has that look that was captured on his face. You need to understand game recognizes game. Now, earlier we had Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton,

a member of this committee, Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley, Congresswoman Robin Kelly, and others, on the Democratic side, members of this committee. If you want to understand what really happened, okay, this happened before that took place. Jim Jordan came in late. They were upset because the members of Congress

were actually ignoring Clueless Candace. They were asking more questions of the actual experts. Here is Jim Jordan. I did walk in a few minutes ago and Mr. Meadows and I were visiting in the back room and noticed that Ms. Owens, you hadn't spoke for a while. So if there's something you'd like to add to the discussion over the last few minutes, I'd be happy to yield my four minutes to you and let you comment. But thank you again for your outstanding testimony for being here as our witness today. Come back.

Thank you for that. See, I don't need to play any more of Candace Owens. What did he just say? Mark Meadows and I got together in the back room and we were like, damn, ain't nobody asking her no questions. When is the last time y'all saw a member of Congress give their entire time to a witness? They get five minutes each.

Gave his time to her. Meadows gave his time to her. Y'all need to understand the game here. But I'm going to go back and play something for you. This is what Clueless Candace said as to what she thinks are the most important

issues that impact black people. Number one, father absence. Number two, the education system and the illiteracy rate. Illegal immigration ranks high. Abortion ranks high. White supremacy and white nationalism, if I had to make a list again of 100 things,

would not be on it. This hearing, in my opinion, is a farce. So here's the real issue here. The real issue is that this House hearing on white nationalism and white supremacy was really only limited to the issue of terror. Because if you wanted a real discussion about white supremacy,

then the very issue that Candace wants to bring up, white supremacy plays a role in that. Just the other day, just the other day, the University of Texas, a story was done by the Atlantic where they discovered in the archives of the University of Texas, a story was done by the Atlantic where they discovered in the archives of the University of Texas that they, by design, implemented standardized tests in the 1950s in order to keep black people out of the University of Texas. The president of the University of Texas literally said in a speech in Houston

the use of standardized tests was a way to keep the niggers out of the university. So when a Candace Owens wants to talk about education and illiteracy, oh, we can have that conversation within the framework of white supremacy. They don't want to do that.

If you want to talk about fathers not being in the home, I am more than happy in the year of the 400th anniversary of the first 29 Africans arriving on these shores to talk about the role that America, white supremacy played in cutting babies

out of the wombs of black mamas. If you want to talk about abortion candidates, we can talk about America's abortion. If you want to talk about this whole issue of black fathers not being there, we can also bring up the studies that show that black men actually spend more time with their children than other races. If you want to talk about the issue of white supremacy on the impact of federal policy that gave more money to mothers who were in homes without fathers, because the policy then was that you only had one person bringing income and not the other, we can be more than willing to have that conversation. But see, that's a different level of white supremacy because I don't think you really want to talk about that. She also mentioned, y'all, white supremacy and black-on-black crime.

You want to talk about white supremacy and black-on-black crime? Sure. We can show you impacted areas in Chicago based upon federal housing guidelines that limited where black folks can live, where they could actually buy homes. And so all of a sudden you had in Chicago, west side of Chicago, south side of Chicago, black folks packed into areas. Same thing in Detroit and Houston and other places around the country. See, all those things were a result of white supremacy. And so if we want to have the real white supremacy conversation, you're right. It didn't happen on today's panel,

but you also were not there, clueless candidates, to have that conversation. The reason I need y'all to understand this is because some of y'all might be saying, why are you giving her so much attention? Because I need to explain to y'all what the game is. And here is the game. The game is for white Republicans

to put up a black face to attack and trash Democrats, including black Democrats, and then to say, oh, but the conservative agenda is really what's great for black people. So what happens is that shit-eating grand Jim Jordan had

is because that's what it's all about. It's all about, hmm, I need you to use the right talking points that's going to push them back. Remember the point where she said, oh, how dare you have three white experts and I'm the only black person here? Because you're not an expert. And in fact, I really don't have a problem

if there are three white people there who are experts on white supremacy because the operative word in white supremacy is white. So to have three white folks talk about white supremacy, I ain't got a problem with because they're all so white. Y'all, Republicans don't really want to talk about this stuff. What they want to do is offer a game of mirrors. This is a house of cards.

And so what they have done is take a black woman who they, oh my goodness, she's articulate. She's cute. She can speak to the issues. Somebody hears her. Oh my goodness, white conservatives go, she's so smart. I mean, look at her. She's feisty. She's giving it to them.

But they really don't want to break these things down. Why is that? Because they prefer the show. Candace Owens only wants a show, which is why she wants to debate John Legend and debate Don Cheadle and debate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and debate Ilhan Omar.

That's what she wants. She wants the attention. And that's what they actually gave her. Republicans did not want this to actually be a discussion on white supremacy and white nationalism and the impact. They don't want to have a discussion about Dylann Roof or the guy who went to the synagogue in Pittsburgh. They don't want to have a conversation

about the white guy in El Paso. No, they would rather have a black woman who's not an expert, who's a college dropout, who loves to trash the NAACP, and then who, of course, got a $35,000 settlement from the Stanford Connecticut School Board of Education because of insults that were hurled at her, which the NAACP actually helped her get. Mmm, it's amazing how that happens. But again, if you want to understand game, I'm going to play this last soundbite for you, and it really is, for me, the most laughable of the day. This, folks, is a soundbite of a Republican in Congress, Congressman Keller, literally asking Candace Owens,

what can I say to black people? I'll be speaking at the NAACP annual state convention in Louisiana one week from tomorrow. Could be argued that I'm a quite unlikely keynote speaker at that gathering. But I shall deliver a candid and unscripted message from my heart and from bended knee as an American that recognizes that our nation has suffered a failure of spirit, that our nation is on a journey. I would ask you, madam, in my remaining time, what message would you hope to hear me deliver to my brothers and sisters in Louisiana one week from tomorrow?

And address which I believe should be reflective of our effort as a nation to bridge the divides that falsely separate us, to embrace the fact that we're created in God's own image. What message would you have me share, good lady, and I shall listen. That's a beautiful question. I would say if I was in that audience, what I would want to hear is just a message of hope. I think that what's been taken away from black America is our sense of pride. We've allowed rhetoric and policies to tether us to the government and I love that you opened your statement talking about God and the family because those are the things that we used to value first and foremost in the black American community and as government grew in the

1960s all of that was pretty much taken away from us. I would remind them to consider who... I'm done. How about this, Congressman Keller? When you go before the NAACP, I would love for you to explain to them in Louisiana why is it that your party supports voter suppression. I would love for you to explain to the NAACP

why the Trump administration is rolling back civil rights in various departments in this nation. I would love for you to explain why the Republican Party chooses to be the prostitute of the NRA and not do anything about gun control. I would love for you to speak to the issue of economics and why is it that the Republican Party and Donald Trump is trying to get rid of the National Minority Supply Development Council, which has been around for 50 years, which is the only federal agency that deals with how to grow businesses among minorities? I would love for you to talk about those issues. I noticed Candace didn't bring those issues up to white conservatives who have been wanting to say these things about black people for a very long time. That's the game. In fact, I was just I just saw a tweet from a person who's a white conservative out of Texas, and then pulled up Taylor Hamm,

current sports for Texas A&M, and they have a soundbite here where he goes, I think this qualifies as a mic drop, where she ripped into this person here who's on the panel. What I need y'all to understand is that is the game. It is about a money game. And I will tell you this again. In our community, we've always had black Republicans.

They've always existed. Four we've always had black Republicans. They've always existed. Four and five and generations of black Republicans. I have known Alfonso Jackson, former secretary of HUD, Mike Williams, who prosecuted white supremacists when he was in the Department of Justice. No folks like Michael Steele. I've named so many others, but there's a reason why they will not bring them to the fore.

Because these are black people who actually work with black people. Candace doesn't. She wants a celebrity. And so when she's on the stage with T.I., on the stage with Killer Mike, it's exactly what she wants. Because it's about entertainment. It's the show. It's about securing the bag. There are black Republicans out there who

actually care about black people. And we have a difference of opinion when it comes to political party. We might have a difference of opinion when it comes to our policies. But what I can say is I have respect for them because they actually care. And even if we disagree on certain issues, we agree on others. Game recognizes game. So today really wasn't about Candace. It was really about the embarrassment of the Republican Party unwilling to deal with the issue of white supremacy and white nationalism. Pam, what are your thoughts? You know, from my perspective, if the idea is to address white supremacy, then that's what we should be talking about.

We should not be talking about these talking points. That has nothing to do with the issue. And I think part of the contradiction for me here is, as Republicans, we always say, we don't put people forward because they're black. But in this case, that is exactly what we did. And so she comes to the floor and she says, I am here as a black woman.

That's my expertise. Yeah. Did the white people say I'm here as white people? No. So that's, we cannot continue to operate in this contradictory world. And we're looking at 2020, and you called it correctly, we're looking at a black man strategy for 2020. You called that.

That's what we're looking for. But we have to be able to say to black men, okay, here's what's in it for you. And this hearing, in my view, and I understand folks are going to criticize me for saying this, and that's fine, but the issue was white supremacy, and that's the discussion we should have been having,

not the other talking points. You have those talking points wherever you have them, not in this context. And, Amisha, if I had wanted to edit it, that's all she kept coming back to. It was like Groundhog Day. I thought it was to a record that was on repeat. It was like,

nope, black and black violence, falls in a home, abortion, legal immigration, and how it's impacting black men. Repeat. Exactly. That was the game. That was the only reason she was there. She was there to play these things back on loop over and over again and attack Democrats and attack Democrats. And for conservatives, the big get for them was to finally have someone who is a black woman to do this and a black woman who on the outset looks respectable. Somebody who's not a diamond in silk, somebody who you can't actually put up there.

Yes. Yes. We point to the fact that you have a formal education. However, she does present. Well She presents their talking points well. Thing is, when you have somebody, a Congress member, ask Candace Owens how to talk to the NAACP when Candace Owens herself has never sent talk to the NAACP. No, no, no, she did. No, no, no. She did talk to the NAACP when they helped her get that $37,000 settlement,

but now she got her money. Now she trashes the NAACP. There are people who are on the plantation, her money. Now she trashes the NAACP. There are people who are on the plantation, all these other things she says about the NAACP. Candace Owens is not respected and will never be respected amongst the black community. And that's not because she's a conservative. There are some conservatives, black conservatives,

who are respected amongst black people. She is not one of them. So to push her up and to act like she's a spokesperson for all of us, and yes, I was born black, I've been black my whole life too, that does not mean that you are someone who needs to act like you present for the entire black community. It's upsetting to

see Candace Owens, who as you said very eloquently, is basically she's out here for a money grab. That is what this is. Candace Owens will shuck and jive and say whatever she has to to keep the checks flowing. The thing for me, Michael, that's most offensive, and again, she wants the attention on her, but the reason I did the deconstruction

is because it really was on the GOP. It really was on what their strategy was. And I love the fact that the camera caught... the camera caught Jim Jordan. Folks, y'all can pull it up right here. This is it right here. That, when she finished that 35-second deal, that's all, that right there says,

you just did exactly why we wanted you here in 30 to 40 seconds. And that smile resembles the same smile that white men like him used to smile at Uncle Tom's. They were like, see? Look at this is how they should be. Now see, here's the deal. I don't use sellout, Uncle Tom's, all those phrases.

Candace even tried to suggest to me that she blocked me because I called her a sellout in Uncle Tom and Oreo, which is a lie. I don't use those terms. But the problem here, go back to it. because see, here's what that smile also says, is we changed the voting laws in Ohio. We changed the laws in Ohio that created voter suppression. What that smile also says is that there's a reason we won by 450,000 votes for Trump in 2016,

because we limited voting locations in the last days to only one early one voting location in each one of the counties. What that smile also says is that we're not serious about all these other different issues out here, but as long as we got a black face and yes, a black woman who hates the Republican party more than anybody else who can come in and say these things, we have cover. And that's what it is. That's the game. And Jim Jordan knew it. And that's why he admitted him and Mark Meadows got together in the back room

and said, she's not giving enough time. Y'all, it was a nearly three-hour session, Michael. And if y'all scrubbed through the three-hour session, she barely said anything because the people in the room knew she wasn't no real expert. And it's like, why am I going to ask her a question when she can't give me no damn information? It's sort of like, yeah, I'm a white nationalism, white supremacy expert because I'm black

and I stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night. That's pretty much what you got here. Does she have, will she have this kind of visibility in express last night. That's pretty much what you got here. Does she have, will she have this kind of visibility after 45 loses next year? Oh, yes. Here's why. Because again, and Chris,

I'm not going to put you on the spot, but being a black conservative, you know this game. What they like to find is a black conservative who can say these wild outlandish things about Democrats and about black people,

use their plantation language, throw all those different things out, and what they find, what they now have is, ooh, somebody who's very articulate, somebody who, look how she dresses, look how she looks, and all you gotta do is go into, if you go into one of the C-SPAN clips and look at all the comments underneath,

that's right, you killed it. Way to go. Oh, Shroff a vice president because serving a purpose. And I know and you know, if they try to get other black conservatives to do the minstrel show, and they've said no. No, and that's, you know, that's the reality. I mean, you know, and that's the thing. It's part of the reason that Chairman Steele, who has been ostracized, and Chairman Steele, and I always remind the party.

The first African-American chairman of a Republican national committee completely ostracized by the party because he would not play step and fetch it. And if it was not for Chairman Steele, we would not have won back the House at that time. And so, you know, I think we have to,

if we're going to move forward with a strategy of engaging Black voters, it has to be a genuine strategy. have to, if we're going to move forward with a strategy of engaging black voters, it has to be a genuine strategy. And that's a concern. So, folks, this is real simple. If y'all want to listen to her, that's great. If y'all want to follow

her, that's great. There's a reason why she will not come debate me because, see, we can unpack these things right here. We have a panel of real experts. And the only person, and she's like, oh, I'm here, I'm speaking as a black person. All right,

that means a brother out there who I ran into on the street who's homeless. What the hell? But bring him on the panel because, hey, he black. He can discuss white national and white supremacy.

They don't want there to be real conversations. And this is why I keep telling y'all, don't get caught up in the okie-doke. Don't say, let's go to these forums and people are jumping up and getting all mad, because that's what they want. And I also say to black conservatives who are real, step up, get out of the shadows, be willing to call out your own party and say,

why won't you listen to us, those of us who truly care about policy? There are some who do. They come on this show. They have no problem discussing these issues. But then you have the people who love to play the dance. This deconstruction is

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