#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 9.25 Breonna's family: Release transcripts; Trump Black plan; RBG lies in state; Youth vote & 2020
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Folks, today Breonna Taylor's family and attorneys held a news conference at Louisville's Jefferson Square Park
in response to the grand jury's decision in her death.
Taylor's mom wrote a letter to express her hurt by the decision.
Her sister read what she wrote.
And most of you know this has been emotionally, mentally, and physically draining for my sister.
So I'm going to do the honor and read her thoughts after Daniel Cameron's decision.
And I quote, I never had faith in Daniel Cameron to begin with.
Amen.
I knew he was too inexperienced to deal with a job of this caliber.
I knew he had already chosen to be on the wrong side of the law.
The moment he wanted the grand jury to make the decision,
what I had hoped is that he knew he had the power to do the right thing,
that he had the power to start the healing of this city. That he had the
power to help men over 400 years of oppression. What he helped me realize is that it will always
be us against them. That we are never safe when it comes to them. Mattingly in an email called us animals and thugs.
It's clear that that is the way that they will always see us.
I was reassured Wednesday of why I have no faith
in the legal system, in the police, in the law
that are not made to protect us black and brown people.
But when I speak on it, I'm considered an angry black woman but know this I am an angry black woman.
There seems to be two justice systems in America one for black America and one
for white America and this has been emphasized by this grand jury proceeding into the killing of Breonna Taylor. You know, Sam Aguiar, it's kind of ironic when you think about the message
that is being sent from this grand jury ruling. It's like they charged the police for missing shooting bullets into black bodies, but not
charging the police for shooting bullets into black bodies.
Where that happen at?
In Kentucky, in Louisville.
In Louisville, right.
In Kentucky, that happened.
In the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Yeah, in Kentucky, in Louisville. Yeah, in Louisville. That's right.
In the Commonwealth of Kentucky.
That's right.
And we question what evidence did Kentucky Attorney General
send to the grand jury?
That's right.
Did he tell them about the probable cause affidavit that had a lie on that affidavit,
which was the basis for which the judge signed this no-knock warrant in the first place
to allow them to be at Breonna's apartment and bust open her door?
Because if he didn't send that, my son, well, what did he argue on Breonna's behalf?
What did he argue?
Tamika Mallory, co-founder of Until Freedom.
They have been protesting there.
Their team actually has moved to Louisville.
She did not hold back in blasting the attorney general of Kentucky.
He mentioned at the press conference, which I thought was quite interesting, that he's a black man.
And as I laid and cried and hurt for Tamika Palmer and for Breonna Taylor and for Kenny Walker and for Janiyah, who we need to love up on.
As I laid there and I thought about him saying he's a black man, I thought about the ships that
went into Fort Monroe and Jamestown with our people on them over 400 years ago and how there
were also black men on those ships that were responsible for bringing our people on them over 400 years ago, and how there were also black men on those ships
that were responsible for bringing our people over here.
Daniel Cameron is no different than the sellout Negroes
that sold our people into slavery...
She said it.
...and helped white men to capture our people, to abuse them, and to traffic them while our women were raped,
while our men were raped by savages.
That is who you are, Daniel Cameron.
You are a coward, you are a sellout, and you were used by the system to harm your own mama, your own black mama. We have no respect for you.
No respect for your black skin because all of our skin folk ain't our kin folk and you
do not belong to black people at all. Folks, attorney, again, Ben Crump and so many others
spoke.
They made it perfectly clear they want to see the transcripts released.
Cameron's office has not responded to the request to release the transcripts.
However, on Wednesday, he said he was not releasing the full grand jury report because of both the ongoing criminal case and an FBI investigation into the case.
Still, lots of questions are being raised, especially about the ballistic report.
Now, remember, remember, he said, Daniel Cameron, that Kenneth Walker fired a shot
that hit one of the officers.
That's what gave them cause to return fire.
I want to bring in Amisha Cross, political analyst at Democratic Strategists,
and Rob Richardson, host of Disruption Now podcast.
Here's the thing that I find to be interesting when we break this thing down, Rob.
And I'm going to go to the Twitter feed of a gentleman named Rob Ferdman. And I'm going to pull this up because this is what he laid out.
And he is a correspondent with Vice News.
Breaking Breonna Taylor news.
The initial ballistics report that was included in the investigative file given to the attorney general's office
by LMPD to prove Taylor's boyfriend fired the bullet that hit LMPD officer Sergeant Mattingly.
Then he said a portion of the report, which references the bullet believed to have hit Mattingly, concludes,
quote, due to limited markings of comparative value, the item was neither identified nor
eliminated as having been fired from number 45, which corresponds to the magazine found in Walker's
gun. Walker's criminal defense attorney, Rob Eggert, provided a screenshot of the report to
Vice News, which confirmed its validity. Eggert said he shared it because of the attorney general's remarks on Wednesday.
This is the screenshot right here.
So the attorney general stands up before the cameras and says that without a doubt.
It happened. This is what Furman writes.
The existence of the possibility that Walker did not fire the bullet that struck Mattingly in the leg, along with crime scene photos recently obtained by Vice News,
raised questions about how the investigation was conducted.
Sergeant Mattingly says Walker was about 20 feet away when he fired a shot that hit him in the leg,
but photos of Mattingly's wound show potential signs of being shot from much closer,
according to Patrick McLaughlin, who teaches forensic science at John Jay College of Criminal Justice.
McLaughlin served as a detective in the NYPD for 20 years, most of which he spent in the evidence collection team.
He said the easiest way to tell for sure is through a gunshot residue test.
But no such test appears to have been conducted on Mattingly's wound or clothes. A preliminary report on Mattingly's wound, which was part of discovery in Walker's criminal case,
says no visible suit or residue on Mattingly's pants and indicates he was shot from distant range.
Yeah, well, look, I think it's been pretty well exhausted what Cameron has done.
He's done what most prosecutors
do. They act as the defense attorneys for the officers that are being charged, and he continued
that. But again, if I can take a moment, because I think I'm the only lawyer here, I want to just
talk about the bigger picture here, because I think we all agree on Cameron, and I think
Tamika Mallory said it, and we don't actually kind of drop the mic on that point. I think the
greater point is to talk about systemically why we're here and the bigger issues, because even if we had a Marilyn Mosby there,
it would be a gigantic task for her to win this case. And here's why. Because when you think
about how the laws are in this country and how our system operates, there are essentially three
ways, as people know. One, we make the laws, the legislators. Two, the enforcers of the law,
the prosecutors, the presidents, the mayors,. Two, the enforcers of the law, the prosecutors,
the presidents, the mayors, all those people who are enforcing the law that was made.
But the fact that we forget the most, and you had RBG's funeral, which is why I want to bring this
up right now, being laid to rest. The third, the people who interpret the law probably have more
power than the first two. Now, why do I say that? Now, if you look, if you go back to just very
quickly, Reconstruction, when we got a lot of our rights, some of the greatest expansion in the
history for African Americans happened in that period, when the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendment
passed, where we had to get two-thirds of the House, two-thirds of the Senate, and absolutely
almost the entire country, three-fourths of the states to approve us getting rid of slavery,
giving us the right to vote, and making us citizens, 13th,
14th, 15th Amendments.
Even with that on paper, clearly stated, Plessy v. Ferguson, we know that they interpreted
in such a way that we could be separate but equal, and then that brought on Jim Crow and
all the oppression and all the terror that that brought on.
Fast forward to Breonna Taylor and why this is relevant.
Now, the Supreme Court for years, going back to a case out of Ohio called
Terry v. Ohio, when they first started eviscerating the Fourth Amendment, which is supposed to protect
us from unreasonable search and seizures, like Breonna Taylor went through that where she lost
her life. But starting then, police were allowed to use reasonable suspicion. They happened to see
three black guys walking in Cleveland, and they looked suspicious to them. They were actually right this time, but they use that to essentially justify stop and frisk, racial profiling and everything else.
And then law after law gave more prosecution, more power. So they got to this point where you
can do this. So the system has been in place where they could do this in a way. And this is part of
what they did every day. Breonna Taylor is the first time that the light has been shined on them in a long time. But this happens,
this has been happening for the last 30 years in this country. And at least we're now starting
to shine a light on this and it's immoral, but it's immoral. It's inhumane. It shouldn't have
happened. But if we're honest, it's been legal for a long time, but we need to make sure that
that is not legal anymore. We need the fourth amendment to actually apply to black people in
this country. But the thing, Amisha, that I think what this raises, and that's why you
see Ben Crump saying, release the transcripts, to understand what was presented to the grand jury.
Cameron is already, he would not acknowledge if he recommended any charges and so other legal experts have said
that because the grand jury did not return a no bill against the other two officers that it's
possible they did not even include them in this grand jury proceedings and this is where this is
where the public needs to know okay and this and this is the grand jury's secret.
What did you do in the room? Did you actually go in a room and fight for Breonna? that from someone about this, talking about the same thing, that what they did was they also relied on one person who said they heard the cops.
But that person, the first two times, said they heard nothing.
It wasn't until a third interview.
So the public, what they're saying is we need to know what you presented. Did the Kentucky
Attorney General Cameron hold back information? Did they present incomplete investigative
information? That's why the family is saying we want to see the transparency of what you presented.
The family is 100% in the right here.
This is a time where we need to sunshine and be able to figure out exactly what was presented to this grand jury.
Because as you stated in that in that question sequence, what we do know is that Daniel Cameron went into this knowing that he was going to play ball in a certain court and that it wasn't going to be presented in a way that would actually have justice for Breonna Taylor.
That's not what he was trying to move towards anyway.
What he was trying to move towards was an eradication of what happened in general and
to create some type of semblance of the law behind it.
And he wanted to do that in a way that not only eradicated the fact that Breonna Taylor's
life mattered, but also wouldn't hurt the piggy bank that helped him to coast into the AG position anyway.
Because what people have to recognize is that Daniel Cameron, and we do lean on this for a good reason,
Daniel Cameron's campaign was funded over 60 percent by people who had either served on the force
or those people who were current members of police unions.
So there's a huge impetus for Daniel Cameron to make sure that he is not
bringing forth or pushing for any charges for these police officers, because he's been in bed
with them for quite some time at this point. But beyond that, I think that what was done was
a presenting of facts that were not necessarily what was needed in this case. What we know is that
AGs have historically presented information when they didn't necessarily want
to come down on police officers that didn't actually include the full picture. And I think
that what we saw in this case, in addition to not full information, the projectile of those bullets
was that also there, he never really wanted there to be questioning into the other two officers and
not too much questioning into the one who actually received the wanton abandonment charge either,
but he definitely wanted to not have
there be charges against those two officers, specifically because he didn't want to bring
in that national media attention. When you saw the conversation when he stood and he gave his
press briefing in that conference, he spoke very, very passionately about him wanting to keep this
thing in house, wanting there not to be influence of outside people who didn't live in Louisville,
acting as though the rest of us couldn't possibly understand what those police
officers were under when they actually entered that home. And what we're seeing time and time
again from conservatives right now, as well as him, was that he felt as though this was justified.
And going into that, going into bringing in a grand jury, he wanted to present evidence that
showcased what he automatically felt without there actually being a grand jury, he wanted to present evidence that showcased what he automatically felt
without there actually being a grand jury hearing beforehand.
He felt that it was justified,
and he wanted to present information to them
that would showcase that it was justified,
as he said during that press briefing,
which I think was very interesting
because he himself is making that claim
before anything was actually reviewed.
And I think that he was doing this on purpose
because he wanted to not allow there to be a full investigation. He wanted to only present
a certain light because he wanted those officers to get off. He wanted to maintain that structure
of this is the badge and this is their enforcement. He wanted to draw a clear line to say that
these officers were acting in some type of self-defense and oops, sorry, somebody died,
but the boyfriend shouldn't have been shooting at the cops. I think that there was something
there for him. And his gain from this is that it runs along the mantra of President Trump.
It runs along the mantra of Mitch McConnell, law and order. You heard him say it during the
press conference. This was literally him going tick for tack on down the line of the Republican
rhetoric that we've heard time and time again
during this Trump administration, but also trying to really throw shade at protesters.
I thought it was very interesting also during that briefing that he brought that up as a means
of diminishing the fact that Breonna Taylor's death has still not been fully investigated.
This was a murder. And coming off of those charges, none
of that is actually seen at all. There was more
care and concern to the plaster on the walls
of adjacent apartments than there
was to the actual murder of a human being.
And I think that's just demonstratively
terrible. And it's a stain on the AG's
office and a stain on Kentucky.
The thing that we have
to understand,
Robby, you basically made the point, is that clearly folk want Justice Barbara Taylor.
But what we have to look at here is this is really a situation where you have to have a real thorough examination of the entire police department of the entire district attorney's
office because this is see here's the deal you could take any one of these shootings
and if you do not have the people do not have the trust in those who are leading the investigation
and then those who are proceeding to the grand jury then this is going to be the outcome. And that's the real issue here.
So Cameron might say, oh, I was a special prosecutor.
Yeah, but did you stack the deck walking in
to basically reach the conclusion
based upon what you presented?
That's what people are asking for.
Rob, go ahead.
No, and I think that's fair to ask for,
and I agree with everything that you and Amisha have said. But just to add to the point about the law and
the changes we need to do, we need to seek changes at the state level because you can interpret the
Fourth Amendment stronger at your state level. And we need to be asking, not asking, demanding
that these things happen because those are the type of changes that can actually, that can make
systemic change. And I'll just say everything that Amisha talked about, the fact that police lie, prosecutors lie, and that prosecutors have the discretion to lie,
to actually to discriminate. Those things have been litigated all the way up to the Supreme
Court. The Supreme Court has said, cool, go ahead and do that. And so when people talk about these
and going to this issue of this election and these elections and to 2016, people like no big deal.
Now we're seeing the big deal. This is the big deal because they decide how you interpret the law.
That sent black people back for 80 years in this country.
So we need to be, we need to understand the power of judges.
We need to understand power locally of changing these state constitutions and making sure
that they enforce the Fourth Amendment.
Those are the things we need to look at as we solve these problems.
And yes, we definitely go after the AGs, hold them accountable, put pressure on them, but we also need to look at it
from a holistic, systemic point of view. And that's why when people talk about systems, this is what
they mean by systems. Got to go to a break. We come back and roll the Martin unfiltered. Donald
Trump unveils his plan for black America. It's called the platinum plan. Really? Where in the
hell that name come from? I will offer deconstructionruction of that and also he keeps saying how he has solved the funding issue for hbcus
it's a lie and we'll break it down with an hbcu president that's next on roland martin unfiltered
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Well, folks, Donald Trump was in Atlanta today
unveiling his plan for Black America.
It is called the Plat platinum plan. Quite interesting. He presented this in front of a group of African-Americans.
He designates the KKK and Antifa as terrorist organizations called for making lynching a
national hate crime. And also they want to make Juneteenth a national holiday. Now,
according to the plan, according to the campaign, the plan will increase access to capital in black
communities by almost 500 billion and create 500,000 new black owned businesses.
Here's Donald Trump talking, y'all. And then, of course, when he's done, I will deconstruct this entire plan.
And I'm here today to announce a brand new plan to deliver more opportunity, more security, more fairness and more prosperity to black communities.
We call it the platinum plan. more security, more fairness and more prosperity to black communities.
We call it the Platinum Plan.
And that's a contract with black Americans and it's going to be something that people
talk about for a long time to come.
If you vote Republican over the next four years, we will create 3 million new jobs for
the black community.
Open 500,000 new black-owned businesses.
Increase access to capital in black communities by $500 billion.
And this includes investing in community development, financial institutions and minority depository institutions.
Build up peaceful and safer urban neighborhoods with the highest standards of and you know, this of policing.
We want the highest standards. We have to have highest standards of policing.
Bring even greater fairness to the justice system.
We did criminal justice reform. We remember that.
Even greater, we will create a national clemency project to right wrongful prosecutions
and to pardon individuals who have reformed their life.
You saw Alice, right? We love Alice. She had another 24 years to
go. Can you believe it? She served 22 years. She had another 24 years to go. It was ridiculous.
And she is a great woman. Create a ladder of opportunity for African-American children
by delivering school choice to every parent in America.
So important.
Give black churches the ability to compete for federal resources for their communities.
Bring better and tailored health care to address the historic disparities that we've had for so many years.
You know that this includes investing in treatments for kidney disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, sickle cell disease and maternal mortality.
Advanced homeownership and wealth building in the black community.
Bring more manufacturing back to the USA, which we're doing anyway,
and back to the inner cities, which have been largely forgotten, although not so much in the
last three years. When you get right down to it. Thank you. And Democrat policies that import low
wage foreign workers from overseas to replace black workers in our inner
city. Joe Biden cares more about the citizens of foreign countries than he does about black
Americans living in our own country. I will always put Americans first, and that includes very, very importantly, black Americans.
And there's much more in our plan, which we're releasing today.
So we'll get everyone a copy.
And it's actually been very well received.
And we appreciate that.
The platinum plan is a bold vision that we can and really will achieve over the next four years.
And we'll be able to do it, if not sooner.
Unlike my opponent, I'm not a career politician, thank goodness.
I get results, and I keep my promises.
Hmm. Now, in the same thing he talked about, in the same deal he talked about,
oh, how he has led this record investment that guarantees funding for HBCUs. All week, I used to be
seeing me rocking HBCU gear. Today, I'm representing Harris Stowe out of St. Louis. So is he lying?
Yeah, let's talk about this. First of all, let's talk about it with Dr. William Spriggs.
He's the economist at Howard University and Walter Kimbrough, president of Dillard University. Walter, I'm going to start with you.
OK, Donald Trump keeps touting how he has saved HBCUs, how he has made funding permanent
for HBCUs so they don't have to keep coming back to Congress every year for asking money.
You have been tweeting about this.
You are an actual HBCU president.
So I would think you probably have a good idea if this funding is permanent. Is what Donald Trump
is saying false? Is it true? Is it false? Is it a flat out lie? What is it? Flat out lie. And this
is, it just drives me crazy because particularly for the program that got funded, there are over half a dozen federally funded programs for HBCUs.
He's talking about this one program that started as a pilot program by George W. Bush for two years.
That program died when President Obama got the office and everybody beat him up and said,
look, you need to keep this money. So then President Obama comes back like, all right,
I hear y'all. I'm going to make it a 10 year program. So it's a 10 year program.
So hold on one second. It was a two year pilot program. You say it died, meaning it was over,
meaning Congress had Congress had to reauthorize it. OK, first of all, that program, what is it and how much money are we talking about?
So it was a two year program for eighty five million dollars a year for HBCUs.
So eighty five eighty five million dollars that was shared with multiple HBCU.
Eighty five million. Eighty five million. OK, go ahead.
Eighty five million. So then President Obama took that and made it a 10-year program, $85 million a year.
And it also was additional money for minority serving institutions.
So you'll hear some people say it's $200 million a year, but that includes the Hispanic serving
and Asian Pacific and all of that.
So it's a 10-year program.
So it started to die, and people started lobbying
to the Trump administration before in 2018 to say, this program is about to die. We want to
continue it. He let it die, too. Alma Adams came back and wrote the new bill called the Future Act,
which made it another 10-year program. And then wrestling with some of the Republicans,
it ended up becoming a permanent bill, but they can still only fund it out for 10 years.
So we'll wait to see what happens in 10 years.
But as he said today, it's a 10-year program, $85 million a year, which is exactly the same thing that we had under President Obama.
So let's be clear.
Again, I had Congressman Alma Adams on this show.
This was not a plan that originated from the White House. It was not
Congressman Alma Adams, who also got with Republican Mark Walter from North Carolina,
whose wife is a Winston-Salem State graduate. They were the co-chairs of the HBCU Congressional
Caucus, drove that thing through. So when Trump is saying, I made it permanent,
he's talking about a single program
that's $85 million a year.
Exactly.
That's all he's talking about.
And when he takes credit for it,
people will defend him and say,
he signed it.
But this bill passed both the House
and the Senate with a veto-proof majority.
His signature was performative.
Let's just call it what it is.
Because there was no way he was going to veto something
that was already veto-proof.
So he didn't do anything.
He never even tweeted about it saying,
hey, let's support this.
But after it passed, he's like thanking Lamar Alexander.
He's thanking Ivanka, who's I don't think ever been
to an HBCU function
and didn't even mention Alma Adams, which is the height of disrespect that he treats black people.
And in fact, in fact, it passed the House. It was held up in the Senate by Lamar Alexander
and Congressman Alma Adams was put in pressure. Why? Because she came on this show talking about
that very issue. Now, when he says record funding,
I've increased HBCU fundings than what Obama did,
true or false?
Also a lie.
Funding has increased,
but if you look at his budgets,
which he called the skinny budget,
which comes out the beginning of each year,
every year his budget has either been flat for HBCUs
or the year when he cut out the $85 million, it was actually a cut.
So he can't say I've even asked for more money.
But his first year, he blew up everything because he had to have his military stuff.
So he went in and they added to the budget like a 20 percent increase.
That's when Rand Paul went on the floor of the Senate and raised hell saying, look, when Democrats are in control, the Republicans are the conservatives. But when Republicans are in control,
there are no conservatives. He was pissed because now they're going to spend all this money.
So when they increased the budget, Kamala Harris and Doug Jones came back to say,
y'all got this new money. Let's get the HBCUs more money, which is a 14% increase.
So when you hear people say he increased HBCU funding the first year by 14%,
I can show you the letter where Kamala Harris and Doug Jones asked for that money.
He didn't ask for it. If you look at his budget, it's zero increase.
So he's taking credit for other people's work. And every year he comes back.
Flat budget for these programs, for the two Title III programs, for the minority, for the HBCU graduate programs, for the HBCU master's programs.
They're always flat. And then the money goes up because Democrats come in
and work with Republicans and increase the funding.
And then he says, look what I did.
I did all this for you.
So all of that is a lie.
None of his budgets support what he's saying now.
Yes, the money went up, but he didn't ask for it.
Last point for you.
I've had people who, oh my goodness,
Kimbrough's making it up.
There's a photo.
You were one of the HBCU presidents who was here in D.C.
when they took photos in the Oval Office.
So it's not like you were not in the room.
Right.
There is one photo that has me in it.
Now, I'm not in most of them because when it went down and Omarosa said,
we are going into the Oval Office,
right then and there, I knew
this is a setup. This is not good for us.
And so I am actually in the back of
the room next to the picture of Andrew Jackson.
So in 90% of the pictures,
you will not see me. I can show you a picture
that shows that I was there,
but I wasn't trying to be in those
because now anytime there's a story and it's bad
for black people, that's one of the pictures that they use.
No, no, no, no, no, no. But the point I'm making is you were there.
You know what was said. You were sitting there listening to it.
And so when somebody says, oh, that's just sour grapes.
And also for the for the MAGA people, how long have you been an HBCU president?
I'm in my 16th year.
At two different institutions?
Two institutions.
As president.
So that's for all the folks who say he don't know what he's talking about
and he's sort of making this whole thing up.
Anything else our audience needs to know
about the truth about Donald Trump and HBCUs?
All of it is inflated. The things that he should
take credit for. So, for example, Dillard was one of four institutions impacted by Hurricane Katrina.
We had a loan that did get forgiven under this administration. Secretary DeVos worked on that.
I was in meetings with her. They can take that as a win. They brought back some repel. They can
take that as a win. But there are other things that happened. We've lost the Perkins loan.
We've had TRIO programs and Upward Bound programs lost from HBCU.
So it's a mixed bag.
But he always presents it as I've done all this, I've saved you, when there are some losses that we've had as well.
And then he made up some stories about things he did for us, like allowing faith-related institutions to get federal funding from the HBCU Capital Finance Program
when we were already getting that money.
He gave a speech last year in D.C. saying, I had all this change.
So he made up a story, and then he never did an executive order to show that he did what he said he was going to do.
So that's the problem.
So hold up, hold up, hold up.
That was an executive order that he said he was going to do.
What was that executive order supposed to be?
It was supposed to make sure that faith-based religious institutions affiliated HBCUs
would be able to have access to the HBCU capital finance program. But we already have access to
that program. We're actually getting that money now. So when I heard the speech, I was like,
what are you talking about? We already have access to this money. And so he says, I've done this for
you. But then he doesn't go back and create an executive order to do what he said he was going to do anyway. So he
made it up and then he didn't follow through with a made up executive order to fix the made up
problem. Walter Kimbrough, president, DeWitt University. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks
a lot. Yep. All right, folks, we're going to further continue our deconstruction of this platinum plan with economist Dr.
William Spriggs, of course, economists with AFL-CIO, also Howard University.
All right, Bill. So let's first of all, it's an insult.
The name of this, the platinum plan, I guess he thinks that's going to appeal to black folks who like diamonds, gold and platinum.
So so let's just let's just sort of deal with that. But but I want to I want to I want to take
this thing through and I want to go one by one because and I'm calling this a deconstruction
for a reason, because we did the exact same thing with Joe Biden's plan where we went through this whole deal and we laid out exactly in terms of what it calls for.
And so let's let's deal with this that he's he's touting.
First of all, we're going to go to the the first thing.
Three million jobs.
He said, let's just pull the graphic up, y'all.
We're going to switch between the two.
So go there. First, three million new jobs for the black community. Did he say how that's going
to happen? No, he didn't. But let's remember he's in the hole because we have fewer jobs
than when he took office right now. He took office. Black unemployment was 7.5%. It dropped down to, what, 5.1% in late 2019.
Right now, black unemployment is, what, 13%?
Yes.
I don't count the drop because what counts is what's the score.
Right, right.
So the point is—
I don't care that you tell me at halftime we were ahead.
Right.
So it was 7.5% when you came in.
It was here.
Now it's 13%.
So when you say, I'm going to add 3 million new jobs,
all you're doing is talking about I'm going to replace what we've lost.
What he lost.
What he lost, right.
Since he wanted to claim everything.
All right, next one.
He says create 500,000 new black-owned businesses.
How?
He doesn't say how he's going to do it.
If he doesn't address discrimination in lending, he can't.
And we saw what his Treasury Department did.
The payroll protection program rolled out, and black businesses were disproportionately hurt because their competitors got loans they did not.
And we know that within that short space of time, we direct that the money went to CDFIs, community development
financial institutions, and minority depository institutions, so that the money would get
to black businesses.
A dollar late.
But here's the other deal.
But we've also, we're losing.
He had an opportunity to just keep the number of businesses.
And he failed. We also we've been losing businesses because of covid.
And so when you say you're going to add five hundred thousand, same thing.
You're trying to add what we've actually lost. So let's go to the guys.
Pull the next one up with the graphic up, please. Come on. I need the graphic.
Come on. The graphic, please. Thank you. Thank you. That one. Increase access to capital in black communities by almost 500 billion. Okay.
But here's the piece. Y'all read the details. Come down to my graphic, please. Where that 500
billion comes from is seeking infrastructure funding that will lead to widespread growth in the annual 500 billion federal contracting opportunities.
He's talking about the same money.
That's right.
So that's not 500 new billion.
He's like, oh, I'm just touting
what is over here in the infrastructure plan.
But that's infrastructure.
That's not two black businesses.
Precisely.
Keep going.
I mean, that's just, I mean, that's just, again, walking people through.
Next item on the graphic.
All right.
Safe urban neighborhoods with the highest policing standards.
That's a waste of my time.
But you know what?
Let me just do this here.
Now, let me go to my deal here. So let me go right down to that one. So
here's what's quite interesting about that, because this is the detailed plan that I have right here.
So he says that y'all going to love this one. National Clemency Program got that.
This is right here. Restore safety to America's great cities by working with police departments.
I'm going to bring in Rob and Amisha right here as well.
And accountable models of policing, including diversity training and accreditation standards.
Rob, how can you say you're going to have diversity training for cops when you just got rid of diversity training on the federal level?
I was just going to make that was just going to make that point. He has an executive
order getting rid of diversity in training, and he has an executive order where he doesn't want
us to tell the truth about history. He says, so we don't want to deal with the fact that we've
had racism. And he says this line in his executive order that says, the Civil War dealt with this,
and people are acting as if we were built on a racist country.
We were, and we still haven't gotten rid of a lot of things,
and we need to deal with it and really tell the truth about it.
So he's not even telling the truth of history.
He doesn't care about diversity in training.
He is doing this to make some white people,
and I guess the few black people that are supporting him,
feel like they have something to talk about.
Like, okay, we know you're saying racist stuff.
We know you've done all this stuff.
So we've got to have something.
And now he can just give them this talking point,
like I'm going to help black people by doing this.
The man has been there for four years,
and you're going to tell me 45 days before the election you got your black plan?
You can save black people now?
I mean, I'm just saying.
Amisha, I'm looking here again under this whole deal of fueling access to capital
for black-owned businesses.
He says increased opportunities for small business lending and technical assistance
through community development financial institutions in order to grow business
and create generational wealth opportunities with over $400 billion in lending.
Then he says, examine alternative ways to build credit, including rent, utilities, and phone bills.
Make the Minority Business Development Agency permanent.
Appoint its leader to the Assistant Secretary of Commerce level. Create a sub-office of African-American
Affairs and engage with private sector advisors to ensure real-world plans and solutions. Increase
the number of Black-owned contracting businesses, financial services entities, and private equity
investment funds through regulatory reform and up to $40 billion in government funding alongside
traditional private investment. Advance lending relationships with financial institutions, particularly those
businesses who weren't able to participate in PPP, host senior executives from major financial
institutions on a quarterly basis to advance new and equitable lending programs for Black communities.
All of this stuff that he said that he wants to do in the second term, he hasn't done in the first
term. He could have done it in the first. He could have done it in the first.
Hell, he could have ran on it in the first term. He did
not. There was nothing stopping
President Trump, who also, be mindful
of people, he also,
his party also has the Senate. He could have
done this immediately, long
ago. There was nothing stopping him from doing
any of this. But to the point mentioned
a minute ago, we have a president who is now
listing off things that run in direct contrast to the things that he says on his stump speeches. He's not
somebody who cares about race and equity. He thinks of those things as unpatriotic. And if
you talk about them, then you're not American. He does not care about lending practices that
disproportionately affect African-Americans. And we've seen that time and time again.
He won't even have a sit-down conversation with the NAACP or the National Urban League
when both of them and their CEOs
have spoken to these issues directly
and have plans that I believe it looks like
he lifted literally out of those plans
some of the language that he's using
within this new, very odd framework
of this platinum plan,
which sounds a little sketchy in and of itself.
But I think that what President Trump is doing, and it's not to get the black vote. He already
knows that that's not really going to happen for him. What he is trying to do is to mitigate some
of the disastrous commentary that he's had that makes some white people feel uneasy, particularly
some white suburban women. So when you talk about there being this racist rhetoric and you talk
about there being, you know, all of the issues that the Black Lives Matter movement has brought
to the forefront, this is a president who now is saying through means testing and through hearing
a lot of what, you know, the white people in the street who are holding BLM signs are saying,
is that, hey, you know, maybe if I put together this plan and bring out some trinkets of black
people to Atlanta, because be mindful, the majority of the folks who were at that Atlanta gathering today weren't from Atlanta. They flew in from
other places. Then maybe, just maybe I'll be able to show to good meaning white people who otherwise
would not, you know, be fervent supporters of his that I'm trying to do something. Be mindful. He
could have done this months ago. He could have done this years ago. If he wanted to actually
implement these plans, he could have done it. He knew that the PPP loans, by the way they were designed,
they were not meant to help black businesses. Period. He could have changed it.
I want to go through this because, again, I'm looking here and I'm just laughing, Bill,
because he says, grow minority-owned businesses with additional tax cuts to stimulate hiring and
investment. Bill, have the tax cuts overall for all of America, have they stimulated hiring and investment bill had the tax cuts overall for all of america have they
stimulated hiring and investment no the economy actually slowed after the passage of his tax
credit so when you look at the growth of black employment it was already underway when president
obama was president and so what you look at is a path that actually slowed and of course now
collapsed on him.
But the minority business development agency is under his control.
He doesn't need the Senate or Congress to do some of the things that he mentioned there.
Instead, he undermined that agency.
He gutted that agency.
So for him to now say, oh, but if I get reelected, I'm going to do something different, as if he didn't undermine it before.
And the PPP, as I mentioned, he knew that it was failing black businesses.
That was directly under the control of the Treasury.
He did nothing. Congress stepped in and reauthorized the additional amount of funds and directed them explicitly to minority-owned businesses that you saw the PPP program respond.
He had his first time at bat.
He whiffed.
He totally missed the ball.
The more damaging thing, he says, is later in this plan when it comes to black homeownership.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Wait.
I'm going to get to that.
Hold on. I'm going to take it by section. In his plan, he says, encourage on-shoring and development of domestic manufacturing to increase supply chain, business development and employment. Sounds great. Have as manufacturing jobs, have they increased or decreased under Trump? They've decreased. And in key states, Ohio and Michigan,
the auto industry is, in fact, stalled and faltered under his control. So he today
has to turn those jobs to the steel jobs that he promised. Right. Because of his war that he
declared was going to get us back jobs by his reckless use of tariffs, did not, in fact, generate new jobs
in that industry.
So his track record on that is that this is not materialized.
He totally bungled the whole world atmosphere when it came to trade, when he attacked the
Paris Accord.
And instead of using the green economy as a way to leverage the WTO, the World Trade Organization,
and actually get us rules that would benefit manufacturing, he went in the opposite direction,
undermined the whole credibility of all the exercise, and we've lost jobs under him.
Right. So in his speech, he touted, oh, I'm going to, he lied in his speech because I listened to all of it saying we brought jobs back home with increased manufacturing.
That hasn't happened.
Now, let's go to the education piece here.
Federal, state, and local community partnership to close failing schools to replace them with a full school choice and education opportunity to put American parents back in control over their children's future.
Well, the reality is you can't, you can't
on the federal level, you can't close schools. Those are local decisions. It's not going to
happen. I'm a supporter of school choice, but what he's laying out. Okay. Remember during the
campaign, he announced his school choice plan at a failing charter school in Cleveland, Rob,
that had a score of an F that was founded by the founder of K-12. And I said, it's pretty stupid to announce a plan at a failing charter school.
Well, that's how dumb he was.
Continue to protect the vital role of HBCUs.
That's it.
It's a line.
Don't know what the hell that means.
Increase the amount of Pell Grants and allow for vocational employment and second change
home comers.
I don't even know what the hell that is.
Has he increased Pell Grant's bill?
He did restore access during the summer.
But as you heard from President Kimbrough, the rest of what he's done to students is
to undermine the program because he's he's cut all the support for their parents.
So this is a great letter that
Leslie Baskerville has written on behalf of Nafio in response to this repeated claim that Trump
wants to make, that the little bit that got added, and as President Kimbrough pointed out to you,
not because Trump asked for it, not because he asked for it, but the things he did ask for undermine their parents.
The things that made it harder for their parents to get money to survive and now to have jobs,
he undermined our students in so many ways that his efforts really made it more difficult
for our students, not easier.
And so simply adding the summer takes away the Perkins loans that you heard
President Kimbrough mention. Those Perkins loans are the ones of the job training that
you just mentioned in that sentence. He attacked the Perkins loan and took them away.
So to say I'm going to do something by bringing them back, OK, but you destroyed it. So
I'm going to give you credit four years from now for putting back
what you took away. That wouldn't make sense. I love this one here under healthcare, Rob.
He lays out all this sort of stuff, reduce costs, opportunity to be in charge of your own healthcare
and choose your own doctor, eliminate longstanding, eliminate longstanding healthcare disparities.
Really? That's a single line. No other detail there. Investments into the cause and cures of kidney disease,
high blood pressure, diabetes, sickle cell disease, maternal mortality, mortality and
other diseases that disproportionately affect African-American populations. But he wants to
get rid of the Affordable Care Act, Rob. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you already beat me to the point
there. And this is just like, do you remember, Roland and Amisha, do you guys remember Trump's
stake? Do you remember Trump Airlines? Yep.
Okay, well, most people won't, and that's because none of it worked. It all crashed, and it was all bullshit.
This is what this is. So I'll just sum up what this plan is.
It's Trump's way of just making it seem like he's doing something to not be racist, that he actually cares about black people, to make some white people in swing states feel as if they could be justified in voting for him.
And maybe he's not a racist. No, he definitely is a racist.
He's a con man. He's the same person he's been.
So don't fall for it. There's nothing here. It's a nothing burger.
Now we're getting to the end of it.
The most prosperous black communities.
And Bill will go here.
Champion federal policy reforms to advance home ownership initiatives. In his speech, Bill, he talked about
how African-Americans enjoy the most prosperous moments in history under him. He said black home
ownership was at its highest rates. No, that was under Bill Clinton. He talked about the same thing
when it came to black wealth. No, it hasn't been under him as well. What the hell have they done
with home ownership in the last three and a half years? I've seen nothing.
No, but worse than that, the number one reason we don't own homes is because of discrimination in the housing market.
And he undermined the Fair Housing Act. He took as many steps as possible within the time he's been in office to fulfill that other thing he's been saying to that
other crowd. Remember how he told everybody, if you get Joe Biden, you're going to have
Cory Booker as a neighbor. That was his signal that I am going to continue the policies I have
been pursuing to resegregate, intensify the segregation of American housing. And that
is what I'm going to deliver to you suburban voters. So his real actions stand in direct,
in the direct way. It's the wall that keeps us from being able to own homes. He's making
that wall taller. He's not tearing down the wall.
Amisha, he says here, go to my iPad,
make Juneteenth a national holiday.
Do you recall when that could have been done in July
and it was Congressman, excuse me,
Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin
who refused to allow unanimous consent
to make it a federal holiday?
I don't recall Donald Trump saying, stand down, Senator holiday. I don't recall Donald Trump saying,
stand down, Senator Johnson.
I don't recall a single tweet by saying,
make this happen.
Again, this is bullshit.
No, you're absolutely correct.
Not only did he not say stand down,
this is a president who acted as though he didn't know
and maybe he didn't know what Juneteenth was
until after his plans to hold a racist rally were actually shot down.
I think that a lot of this is basically word vomit, to say the least. It's President Trump
literally Googling what black people want and then stealing from black organizations. Like I said,
the National Urban League, the CBCI has actually pushed a lot of this stuff, the Congressional
Black Caucus Institute.
We've also seen it from organizations like the NAACP.
But if you do a quick Google search of the top things that matter to black people, basically all he did was threw, who are people who are leaders in housing, people who are actually fighting the good fight out here and have some very specific means of trying to make things better
for African-Americans across this country.
None of this is informed rhetoric.
These are empty promises, again, that he's not using or even directing towards Black
people.
He's directing this towards white people in swing states because he assumes that because there are so many white people
who locked arms with black people during the Black Lives Matter protests
and the George Floyd protests, that now he has to say something
because in those states, things are very tight for him.
That's what he's doing. This is a last-ditch effort.
There isn't a single thing on this list that he couldn't have done years ago
if he wanted to do it.
Rob, prosecute the KKK and Antifa as terrorist organizations and make lynching a national hate crime.
First, the FBI director, Christopher Wray, just testified the other day that Antifa is not an organization.
It's an ideology to make lynching a national hate crime.
I'm sorry. Do you recall Donald Trump telling Senator Rand Paul to stand down who was was blocking, again, lynching him from a national hate crime,
a bill that Senator Tim Scott co-sponsored with Booker and Harris.
I don't recall Donald Trump saying, Jack, so when it could have been made a national hate crime, where was Trump?
He was doing what Trump does, saying some other bullshit that doesn't matter.
I mean, this is what the man does. I mean, he figures out what to do with the moment
and what can I say at this moment
to make some people believe me and hope that it works.
You know, I think Mitch said it best, this word bombing.
He's just throw some shit up against the wall,
see if it sticks.
I mean, this is what he's doing, right?
And he's just taking some ideas
and then letting people go with these talking points to say,
see, I'm not racist.
You can talk about these things.
Nevermind all the things that I've said. Nevermind the fact that I encouraged somebody to go out and kill some people again
in Wisconsin. We're not going to forget that. That's one example out of many. Never mind
that he called African countries shithole countries. Never mind. Never mind. We can go
through. I could be here all day. I mean, but it would take all the time in your show. I mean,
the man is as divisive as they come. He's toxic. He's
racist. He's a horrible leader, and there's
nothing he can do to change that. Only we
can change that.
Bill, this is interesting.
Fuel black
farmers
and access to healthy
foods to address food
disparities. And then
favorable trade, first of all, they didn't even spell, they didn't even proofread this.
Favorable trade deals to bring back manufacturing jobs and health black contractors, farmers,
inventors, and consumers.
I don't even know what that is, Bill.
Let's guess maybe they meant help.
Right. I mean, help, not help. But fuel black farmers and access to help black farmers don't need access to healthy foods. I'm going to assume
that what he means is he's going to help black farmers get access to urban markets so that they can have more channels for supplying food.
I'm sure John Boyd would laugh at that.
Go ahead.
But again, he's had these opportunities.
He's been in charge.
He's had an opportunity to do all of these things. In fact, if you look at what he's
saying there, not only did he rip it off from the Congressional Black Caucus in many points,
but these are things that the House passed that the Senate failed on. And in essence,
what he's saying is Nancy Pelosi is a good speaker of the House.
That's what he's saying.
And so the next time you hear him say anything bad about Nancy Pelosi and how she's a communist and going to turn the American system into socialism, you just say, well, Mr.
President, when it came to black people, you thought Nancy was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
So I find this one very interesting. Amisha. We only got two left.
Defend religious liberty and African-American churches that lift the conscience of our nation.
Really? The man don't even go to church.
He doesn't go to church. I would like to, I would like for them to describe, you know,
what this actually means, because at the end of the day, you know, I think that this, again,
this goes back to him trying to speak to a specific audience and that specific audience
ain't black people. So when he's talking about religious liberties, when he's talking about
bringing these things to the forefront, he's not talking about black churches because we know that
when people were shot in the black church just a few years ago, he really showed very little concern whatsoever and found good people on both sides of the situation.
So, no, I don't think that this president gives too, like, sense about the black church at all, nor does he care about faith and religion.
But I think that he is speaking to an audience, again, that is not black people.
He's speaking to an audience that tries to lean in on those swing states, but he's speaking to white women specifically right
now. The same white women who he's done this entire campaign cycle of trying to make afraid
of black people in general. So when we're having these conversations, I think that it's very
interesting, his timing of releasing this plan, but also the fact that, you know, it comes out literally within
a day of us hearing about the Breonna Taylor case. He is very strategic in trying to be mindful of
what he thinks that those people in the suburbs actually want to hear. But he's not, he doesn't
have any real intent on making any of this happen at all. And of course, right here, the last one,
collaborate with cities and counties to address mental illness and substance abuse.
Really, Bill?
My God, you're going to collaborate?
No, I think probably what those cities and counties will say is, where in the hell is the money?
Well, again, this is the defund the police movement, right? The whole movement is, why are all of these funds going to the police when the biggest
encounters that disturb us the most too often involve people who have actual mental health
crises and their families are desperate to try and get help? They call the police instead of
being able to call mental health experts. So, you know, he criticized people
wanting to defund the police,
but that's where the money would come from.
The money would come from,
don't fund the police to do this,
fund the professionals who know what they're doing
when they encounter someone in a crisis.
That's what this is saying.
So he doesn't disagree with the people
that he's been sniping at and saying sounded ignorant.
And of course, I want to do this here, Rob. This is from the National Alliance on Mental Illness
from August of 2019, that they lay out here that Donald Trump will actually going to be
slashing funds for mental health care. Yeah, I mean, you're talking about what,
facts and things that actually he's doing, not words that he's saying. These things rarely align
when it comes to Donald Trump. So yes, he doesn't care about mental health funding. He doesn't care
about black businesses. He cares about getting reelected, keeping power, and making those who
have supported
him have something to talk about. They have nothing to talk about other than a horrible
record of leadership and I'm sure the most divisive president we've ever seen. Folks,
I did reach out to the Trump campaign, sent an email to two individuals asking did any of them,
did they make anyone available to come on this show to actually discuss and defend this plan?
No response.
Bill Spriggs, I appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
All right, folks, got to go to the commercial break.
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All right, folks, we talk about what is happening in this campaign, the military.
One of the issues, huge issue, that is deals with the military.
Close to 500 retired top military and national security officials from both parties have endorsed Vice President Joe Biden.
In a letter signed by them, the group called the National Security Leaders for Biden, they said, quote,
the current president is not up to the enormous responsibilities of the office.
These experts include 22 four-star generals.
The letter comes after an endorsement of Trump last week by 234 senior military leaders.
Here is an ad that Joe Biden has targeted to the military.
I'm Joe Biden, and I approve this message.
It should have been easy day. Maybe about five minutes, ten minutes into it,
we come under attack.
I just make a step.
It felt like the blast tossed me maybe about 15 feet.
I can remember trying to stand back up.
My ears are just ringing,
and I'm wondering if I'm going to make it home.
I just really wanted a chance to put my arms around my wife
and my daughters.
Taught me that you can't take anything for granted.
Can't wait until tomorrow to say I love you.
I gave two legs for this country.
I got friends that never came back home.
The guys that had their caskets draped
with our nation's colors, those are the real heroes.
And you mean to tell me you call them suckers, losers?
With all due respect, I think
you missed it on this. A public servant is the greatest servant. I need someone in that White
House that understands what it means to serve. I know Joe Biden understands the sacrifices that
troops make, and that's the guy that I want leading this country.
Jermaine Owens, Ginger Miller. She's the president and CEO of Women Veterans Interactive, Inc.
Ginger, glad to have you on Roller Martin Unfiltered.
When Trump made it, was reported,
Trump made his comments losers
in reference to military folks.
That's what also led Cindy McCain
to come out and endorse Joe Biden.
And it's very interesting to see
Trump loves to wrap himself in the flag and how he loves the military, how he saved the military.
But this is a guy who actually used the fake excuse of Bones Burst to get out of serving and literally said, why would these people serve?
And I think what's telling is that the person who he made these comments to is General John Kelly, who has not come out to say the story
is wrong. And thank you so much for having me tonight, Roland, and thank you for covering this
segment. I am appalled as a black woman who has served this country. I am totally appalled that
the so-called commander in chief would come out and call those of us who have served
and sacrificed for this country and those of us who continue to serve losers and suckers.
Like, I just can't make the connection. And then when you see the video that you just showed,
you know, it just brings tears to my eyes to know that this young man came home without legs
and that you have the audacity to call us losers and suckers. You know, we need a
commander in chief that number one has empathy. Number one tells the truth. And number three,
don't hide behind lies. Like I'm just totally appalled. I've had enough of Trump. It's time
for him to go. Again, when you when you look at how he even attacks generals, supposedly he, remember, I got all these generals,
but every time someone disagrees with him, he attacks them.
He's attacked Mattis. He's attacked McMasters. He's attacked Kelly.
This man does not have any respect for the military.
No respect for the military. He has a disregard for generals.
Even when he says the term, oh, the generals, it's just like
a common term.
These men have earned the rank of general.
Put some respect on that.
He has no respect.
He's a sore loser.
I mean, but what more can you expect from someone who has never served a sacrifice for
this country?
He doesn't understand.
What he wants to do is win, and he'll do anything to win, even take down the troops.
I mean, there was an issue with Russia, where Russia put
a bounty on the troops on their heads. Trump has not came out to address that issue.
Yeah. To this day, he hasn't said a word about that at all. Vote vets.
Nothing.
Vote vets. They've really been criticizing him in a huge way. Not only that, according to the Military Times poll,
more troops, more active duty troops say they will vote for Joe Biden over Donald Trump. This
is the headline right here from Military Times on August 31st. Trump's popularity slips in the
latest Military Times poll. More troops say they will vote for Biden. As they should. Every troop should vote for Biden.
You can't expect to go to Iraq and Afghanistan
and go overseas to serve your country,
and then you have a commander-in-chief back in Washington, D.C.,
who's putting a bounty on your head or who's using you for a prop
or who's telling you, oh, when your husband gets killed,
well, he knew what he signed up for.
Come on, where's the respect?
You know, when I think of Joe Biden, I think respect. I think integrity. I think
commander in chief. I think trust. I think empathy. I just go ahead.
I don't I don't get it. We have a lot of work to do to get Joe Biden in the White House. And we're
working diligently night and day to make sure that
every veteran and every active duty person votes for Joe Biden. We need a commander in chief that
we can trust. Trust is a big issue with Trump. And again, he cloaks himself in this whole,
you know, this whole deal, but how he's also attacked Gold Star families, Khan and others. This is a video
that VoteVets put out. We'll talk about it. I was seven months pregnant when Derek deployed
to Afghanistan. The day before our son was born, I found out that Derek had been killed in action.
Michael never got to meet his father. Chip Roy was one of only three congressmen who
voted to make Gold Star children like my son pay higher taxes on their survivor benefits.
I don't think that Chip Roy cares about the sacrifices that families like mine have made.
Vote vets and House Majority Pack are responsible for the content of this advertising.
I ran that because, again, you're not seeing, you're seeing how this attack,
again, how they love to put their arms around gold star families.
Remember the brother who was killed in his in his wife said when Donald Trump called, he made it worse.
Right. And I don't understand where is the respect, where is the compassion?
And when you do things like this, you are lowering the troops' morale.
You know, this is some of the
reasons why folks don't want to sign up to go into the
military, because you don't know what you're going to get.
You sign up to serve as sacrifice for this country,
and this country is doing nothing to support you.
You know, I think it's very disrespectful
that woman in the video, her
husband died, and now you want to tax
the benefits?
Something is definitely wrong with that picture.
You know, it's definitely a sad state of affairs, Roland, that we find ourselves in in this country.
And when you look at everything that's happening now on the prize segment that you just had, when you talked about African-Americans as African-American woman veteran, you know, that's a double edged sword for me.
Because, you know, when I got out of the military, I was homeless.
And that's why I do the work that I do at Women Veterans Interactive.
And I want to command the chief who's going to have empathy to make sure that no other woman veteran is homeless again.
And I know for a fact that Joe Biden will be that president.
All right, then, Ginger. Look, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Keep the fight up.
Thank you for having me, Roland. Have an awesome it. Thank you so very much. Keep the fight up. Thank you for having me, Rowan. Have an awesome night.
Thank you very much. Amisha, here's the whole deal here real quick.
And that is Republicans, again, love to say, oh, they how the military supports them.
But the fact of the matter is this man has grossly disrespected the military, said he is he knows more than any general whatsoever.
He has countermanded the military chain of command
when they tried to punish a Navy SEAL,
just gave him a pardon and said,
you are not going to take his Navy SEAL insignia.
He does not care about that he's operating as a dictator.
Your previous guess was spot on. I think that, you know, you don't have to be in the military
to understand the sacrifice that servicemen and women have done for this country. I think that
the Republican Party, by and large, has, just like they co-opted religion, they co-opted the
military as only being and serving them, and that, you know, their interests were the ones that were best covered by military service.
And I think that Democrats were kind of wrong for allowing that to happen.
But what we see with President Trump is a president who himself did everything he could, told every lie he could find, bone spurs, whatever he could pull out of the sky to not have to serve himself.
Meanwhile, demonizing and making fun of military leaders, but also people
who've served in the military who have lost limbs.
I mean, we know that harsh things that he said and other Republicans have said about
U.S. Senator Tammy Duckworth.
We know that he does not care.
We know that this is an administration that promised to help those who are coming back
from serving in the military who have mental health issues.
And he developed a task force, a task force that has yet to reveal any types of recommendations,
plans, or any funding towards those who are in need of mental health services.
So everything that he said about the military, he does not live up to.
President Trump likes to hug the flag.
He likes to rally around it and talk about it.
But when the rubber meets the road, the military service men and women
current, as well as those who are out now, cannot, and are back home in the United States, can no
longer trust and can't put their faith in this president because Trump just simply does not live
up to the things that he says on his stump speeches. And while he's on the campaign trail,
when it comes to serving the military and making sure that they are elevated to the rightful
ownership they have, not only of this country, but also military and making sure that they are elevated to the rightful ownership they have,
not only of this country,
but also that they get everything that they need
when they are returning
so that they can fully become, you know,
full citizens of society.
Rob, here was a video VoteVest put out,
a World War II vet making it perfectly clear about service.
I enlisted in the U.S. Army Air Corps in World War II.
I was on baton.
We fought the good fight with what we had,
and it wasn't enough.
I was a prisoner of war slave laborer for 42 months.
We were forced to perform unbelievably brutal manual labor.
That was probably one of the worst conditions
a human being can be put in.
He's not a war hero.
He's a war hero.
I like people that weren't captured, okay?
I hate to tell you.
None of the fellows that I served with
who are no longer with us are suckers.
They are not losers.
Donald Trump disrespects everyone who served in the military. What's worse,
he lies about it. We need to vote Donald Trump out of office and we need to vote out any
politicians if they continue to support Donald Trump.
Can't get any clearer than that, Rob.
No, I really can't.
And, you know, Trump will use anybody, and I've said this on this show, he will run over his mother if it can help him succeed in life.
He's a con man.
He is good at, look, he just wants to entertain, and he wants to keep power.
And he will use entertainment. He will keep power. And he will use entertainment.
He will use power.
And he will use anybody.
He'll use this country.
He'll use race.
He'll use sexism.
He will use whatever it takes to keep power and to divide this country.
And he thrives on us being divided.
And so I hope that more folks in the military understand what's going on.
This is not about Democrat versus Republican.
You know, we have a president, as you know, who said he doesn't know if he's going to step down if he loses.
I mean, I'm going to take him seriously on that.
I don't think he's just saying that. So, you know, I hope that those who do serve, who serve our military and those who understand service,
understand that this man is not about service.
He's just about himself. All right, folks, let's now go to a break. We come back.
The power of the youth vote. Will the 18 to 35 year old voters, will they use their power
and vote in this election? We'll discuss that next on Roland Martin Unfiltered.
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That's a Lincoln Project ad targeting South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham,
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They have 38 days until Election Day, November 3rd,
where people are already voting across the country.
Early voting has started in places like Pennsylvania, mail-in ballots as well.
David Hogg, who survived the Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in 2018,
tweeted this, folks. He said, are never going to give a fuck about young people until we force them by voting and running against them to be the actual adults we need.
Raises the question, what are young people going to do in 2020?
Joining me right now is Ariel Singleton, a Georgia black youth vote coordinator.
Is she there, Ariel?
Hi.
There we go. How you doing?
I'm doing well. Thank you.
So the point that he made, Hogg and others have been talking about the power of young voters.
Those voters who are 18 to 29 or we can go 18 to 35 in terms of if they actually use that power.
I was talking to a woman yesterday, South Carolina, former teacher, and she said, you know what, I'm going to reach out to some of my former students, uh, to, uh, make sure they're voted. She sent one, a text person
said, no, I'm not registered. She says, why, what are you doing? You need to get registered.
Then the person, this person said, you know what? I don't follow this stuff. I don't even know who to vote for. We talked about on this particular show here, the folks at FiveThirtyEight.com did a what they say was a deep dive at black voters.
They talked about the generational differences. And guys, if you can go to my iPad, please.
This is what stood out. I don't vote because it doesn't make a difference. 18 to 29
year old voters, 21% said that. Black voters who are 60 plus, only 2%. Is that, and then one of the
other issue questions was definitely motivated to vote. Black voters 18 to 29, 29%,
60 plus,
78%. What Hogg
is talking about is right there.
And that is,
young voters are saying,
oh my goodness, what are y'all doing?
He's saying, hell, if you don't use
your power, you're letting
other folks decide your future.
No, you're letting other folks decide your future. No, you're absolutely right.
But we see it changing, like, a lot.
We see it.
That's why at Black Youth Vote and the efforts that we're doing is to encourage our especially
young Black voters that this is now a time.
We've seen the results of my vote doesn't count, so I'm not going to vote.
We see what happens when we do that.
So now that we have the movement and the power, even in a new generation and a new time to where we have everything basically at our hands, what do we do now?
That means we need to take to the streets.
That means we need to go ahead and register to vote.
That means we need to actually vote, have this voter plan.
We need to do what we need to do
to make sure that what happened in 2000,
excuse me, 2016, if we don't like it,
this is what we do to make a difference to change it.
I remember being in Ohio
and I was talking to some young voters
and it was, yeah, I voted for Hillary.
And it was like this air resignation. And I'm sitting there going, thinking,
do y'all understand what this country is going to look like if Trump wins? I mean, in my mind,
I'm sitting there like, do you understand what a Trump Department of Justice is going to look like?
You say you care about police reform. I'm like, this dude wins. I'm looking at them going,
that man don't care about student loan debt. That man don't care about Pell Grants. That man don't
care about none of this sort of stuff.
And it was sort of this, this, this, this. It's like, well, just, you know, you know, I just don't know.
I really have no choice. So how are you and others communicating, connecting the dots, talking about policy?
And if certain certain parties are in charge of the Senate and the House and the White House and now Judiciary,
how they really control power?
How are you having that conversation?
Yes, for one, we have a miseducation
between when we actually vote and why we actually vote.
We have so many people that are waiting every four years
just to vote, and unfortunately, these are things or habits that they picked
up. So you hear that conversation is, OK, the two choices that I have in front of me,
they don't matter, so why register to vote? Why vote?
Well, you have so many other things that you can vote for that actually take effect into
that and to take—to let them not be able to make the policies push forward that you don't
want to happen. So what we've been doing is going down to the ground, having canvas crews, making
sure we're going into the streets. We're also hitting up HBCUs, making sure that we are doing
this collegiate practice, this HBCU challenge, encouraging people to not only register to vote,
but to have your voter plan to vote, to care about the other people that are voting, encouraging them as well, encouraging the students,
encouraging your friends and your peers and taking them there for, but by educating them that this is
not just a one-time thing. This is not just a one-time contract. You sue that, you sign a
contract. It's almost like a marriage for four years. And those four years make a big difference.
One of the things and Rob and Amisha, get your questions ready.
Someone also wants you to ask a question as well of Ariel.
And that is and this is what this is what I keep going back to.
You have folks who checked out in that in that poll where they say it's just not going to make a difference to me.
The follow up is, OK, so what do you think will? I mean, if you have this attitude of, well, it's not going to make a difference.
So basically you just given up. And so if you think you can't like.
And then the other thing, Ariel, that it befuddles me are the people who say
i want to see change i want to see police reform i want to see the end of systemic racism
but i'm not gonna vote and i'm like who the hell do you think is in charge of changing those systems
no yes and it is one thing for me personally it bothers me as well it's one of those things where
if you don't actually raise your hand and say anything to begin with what when it doesn't look
like what you wanted it to look like who are you to complain so it's about actually making
putting your stuff your foot forward and saying, this is what I asked.
This is what I wanted.
This is what I asked for.
This is what I voted for.
This is what I'm intentionally voting for.
And this is what I want to see.
So then that way we can move forward.
You make that first step by actually having your choice.
You can't have a choice of change if you're not trying to change yourself.
Let's go to Amisha, your question for
Ariel. Sure. We know that younger voters make up a large portion of the American population. I'm a
millennial myself. When we talk to younger voters, often the questions relate to how much they
actually feel as though things can be moved forward in America.
So there is a large disconnect between millennials who stand out in the streets and protest and who tweet and want to see change
versus those who either fully understand that they can affect that change at the polling places
or who actually want to take that next step and get that done.
Do you think that we're going to see things be different in 2020?
A lot of people assume that it might be because of RBG's death.
But to be honest, as a millennial myself, I'm not setting myself up to believe that it will.
But what are some of the ways that you think that you've been able to get more millennials involved?
And not through just registering.
Registering, we do.
But even of those registered, very few actually show up on Election Day.
What do you think that you've done that's going to help that on the ground?
And what do you think are young people's priorities
that will really push them out?
I think it's about the conversation
and it's also about actually seeing things unfold
in front of your eye, you know?
And these aren't things just that have to do with voting.
This has to do with the protesting.
This has to do with the civil injustice,
the racial injustice that we are experiencing
right now in front of us.
So that's what gives me hope because you start to see it and now you see that it's affecting you day in and day out.
So it's encouraging more people to come in and take it mass amount, wanting to make this difference, wanting to make this change. You know, we're seeing even in this year, 2020, unfortunately losing a lot of people
that we have to look up for, that look up to, that push the movement forward. Now we're seeing that,
okay, now we need to do something because we've been looking up to everybody else at this moment
in time. So now who, what are we going to do? And so it's about us having that conversation with
each other, encouraging each other, having these real life conversations of it's not just your 1960 election.
This is not just your race, your mama's race, your grandma's race. This is yours. This is you. This is what's happening in 2020.
What are you going to do and who are you going to be? Who do you choose to be this year and in this time?
Rob, first of all, I want to thank you for what you choose to be this year and in this time? Rob?
First of all, I want to thank you for what you're doing. You're definitely doing the Lord's work. I spent a lot of my time during my early years in college.
I started the first college chapter of the NAACP, registered voters, doing the same thing you're doing.
So I have an appreciation for how much work it is, how frustrating it can be to have the conversations with people who don't think like their vote doesn't matter.
And when people tell me that, I said, you're right.
You've decided you have no power.
So now it doesn't matter because you've given your power away.
But what can we do to really get after this vicious circle, if you will?
Because young people are not, they are correct when they say they're not represented, but
they're not represented well because they don't represented, well, because they don't represent.
I mean, they got to go out there and actually vote in a large enough numbers.
So what can we do that's innovative to really make them try to understand this vicious circle that is created?
They do lack representation.
That is true.
But getting them to really understand that the only way you do that is through a consistent not only voting every four years, it's voting in every election.
I can tell, by the way, I was a I ran for state treasurer. I ran for mayor.
Little bit would have made a little bit difference. All close races and where young people did not show up at a large number.
So I can also tell you it does make a difference? Yeah, I mean, it would be easy to say the cop-out answer would be that we're in
a millennial time. We're using electronics. We're using technology. We're using virtual.
However, it's not just about that. It's about encouragement. It's about voter education. It's
about still having that push, not giving up, still educating as much as possible about the voter plan.
Like you mentioned, you know, every little bit counts.
Actually showing this and seeing the results of what happened, I think that's what's going to make a difference.
Also showing them through that voter education, creating a voter plan.
You know, teaching us as millennials, I know myself, you know, I have bad time management.
I literally fail to plan sometimes.
However, having that plan, making that conscious effort to go out and vote, have that voter plan, but then also show that you care.
Have voter care.
Adopt a poll.
Adopt a precinct.
Help out young millennial voters, you know, with this process.
Some of these, especially this year, this is their first time ever voting in election period.
You know, they weren't old enough to vote four years ago or they may not have been 18 last year.
It's about really not giving up and having that care, that plan and that education piece right there.
All right, Ariel. I we out of time. Ariel,
I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Thank you very much. And keep giving the good work.
Thank you. All right, folks. Donald Trump. Well, we are seeing that Amy Cohen Barrett. Let me pull
this up. Amy Coney Barrett, a federal judge, is likely going to be Donald Trump's pick for the Supreme Court. He'll announce this tomorrow. This is, of course, she's a, Ellie Mistel tweeted this here, devout Catholic,
and that he said, but she rules like an extremist conservative at the time. Religion only justifies
those extremist positions when it's convenient for her to do so. Of course, she's going to be
replacing Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
who died a week ago, becoming the first woman in U.S. history to lay in state at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C.
Thousands have been paying their respects as she lay outside the Supreme Court building this week.
The formal ceremony was today.
Of course, she lay in state at the U.S. Capitol.
Democratic presidential—actually, she actually was laying in state in Statuary Hall. Here at the U.S. Capitol, Democratic presidential. Now, actually, she actually was laying laying in state in Statuary Hall.
Here's the deal. She was not in the Capitol Rotunda in order for her in order for her to lay in state in the Capitol Rotunda.
That would have required a resolution approved by both the House and the Senate. Today, that was a ceremony attended by Vice President Joe Biden
and his wife Jill, Senator Kamala Harris and others,
and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy
and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell
didn't even have the decency to go to the program to pay their respects. There's one beetle that's lots of attention and that is of Ruth Bender
Gainsbourg her trainer Bryant Johnson paying the ultimate respect as a trainer would to year old client.
You know, Rob, real quick, a lot of people, I've had some people say oh that's disrespectful uh but this is a woman who uh videos and the photos of her training lifting weights
uh doing those push-ups to me you know what that was fine oh of course it was it was a salute to
her and who she was and their relationship those people are just looking for a reason to be critical. I think it was I think it was fine.
And I think it was actually heartwarming in a way. I'm just going to say this, too, as, you know, Mitch McConnell doesn't come.
I'm not surprised. And I also think Democrats shouldn't be surprised who they're dealing with.
Like these people don't care about principle. They care about power, and that is it. So I'm saying when Joe Biden wins, and he should, and he better,
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lives at risk. And they can also interpret the laws on policing. All these things matter.
And now, but there's a lot of power they can do. They can make D.C. a state. They can give us two
senators. They can pack the court if they want to. They can come up with some serious police reform,
but they have to get rid of the filibuster and have some courage. They better do that. If they don't, Roland, this is what I'm
going to guarantee. The Democrats are going to have some problems in the coming years because
it's not enough to say just to get rid of Trump. We have to do that. There has to be some real
changes and some real representation for everybody, particularly for black and brown people here.
Absolutely. All right, folks, I got to go to a break real quick. When we come back, UFC fighter calls Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization.
UFC president Dana White defends them. But the company that owns UFC Endeavor,
they supposedly say Black Lives Matter. Hmm. That's next.
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Colby Covington, a UFC fighter who is an outspoken supporter of Donald Trump, engaged in a heated post-fight exchange with welterweight champ Kamaru Usman, who was born in Nigeria.
Covington asked Usman if he got a call from his, quote, little tribe using smoke signals.
He also described another fighter who is black and has been advocating for Black Lives Matter as a communist, a Marxist, and someone standing up for lifelong criminals.
UFC President Dana White said his promotion will not muzzle anybody when he was asked
yesterday about his early reaction.
Joining me now is A.J. Springer, a journalist and owner of Springer Communications and Andreas
Hale, senior editor for Combat Sports.
So, A.J., I want to start with you.
This guy, Kobe, is known for making lots of racist comments.
But for Dana White to say, I don't see anything racist in his comment, where he called Black
Lives Matter a, called them a terrorist organization.
What the hell?
I think this is one of those situations where racism is essentially the equivalent to calling somebody the N-word for Dana White. And anything shy of that, it's anything goes.
Andres, but here's what's interesting. Endeavor was part of a group that bought the UFC for $4 billion four years ago.
This is what they tweeted on May 31st.
We stand with our black colleagues, clients, partners, and allies today and every day.
We see you and are committed to taking actionable steps that bring lasting change.
And the graphic is Black Lives Matter.
Go back to it, guys.
Go back to it. Go back to it, guys. Go back to it.
Go back to my iPad. Thank you. Black Lives Matter. Black voices matter. Black communities matter.
Black culture matters. Clearly, none of that matters if Endeavor has said, and Ari Emanuel,
the CEO, the brother of Chicago, former Chicago mayor, Rahm Emanuel, has said nothing about Covington or Dana White.
It's all lips.
We lost your audio there. Hold on one second.
Andres, hold on. We lost your audio. Guys, get it back.
Andres, unmute yourself.
Make sure you are muted sure you're unmuted.
I'm unmuted.
Okay, now go ahead.
Go ahead.
All right.
So what I was saying is, it's all lip service.
If you look at, anybody can post a graphic.
Anybody can say Black Lives Matter.
This is all lip service.
When you're put to the fire and you have to really deal with somebody who is overtly racist,
what are you going to do?
And WME is doing nothing because it hurts their bottom line because they've invested
so much money into the UFC.
It's an unfortunate circumstance, but that's just the way it is.
And that's what we've been looking at since this whole thing started back with George
Floyd, where everybody posted a Black Lives Matter graphic.
It's about action.
It's not about logos.
It's not about visuals.
Do something about logos. It's not about visuals. Do something about it.
And the thing is, this other fighter, again, I mean, this guy, I mean, just made some unbelievable nasty comments.
AJ Springer, he's also been criticized by so many other folks.
And here's what's funny.
Colby Covington also said Tyrone Woodley stands with criminals.
Yet this is the same guy himself who was arrested for a DUI and then was arrested later for assault.
Hmm.
Really?
It's hypocrisy to the highest order.
And I think what the UFC and what Dana White would say is, you know, this is we don't muzzle anybody.
This is just to sell the fight.
But what you're doing to sell the fight and what Kobe is doing to sell the fight is blatant and overtly racism. Um, to also, um, you know, first of all, here is, um, some folks have actually shown, here's actually what he said. Go ahead, go to my iPad. Um, you know, fighting for equal
rights and social justice. How are those the same? Because he's standing up for lifelong criminals.
You know, the black lives Matter is a complete sham.
It's a joke.
They're taking these people that are complete terrorists.
You know, they're taking these people that are criminals.
You know, these aren't people that are hardworking Americans,
blue collar Americans.
These are bad people.
They're criminals, you know,
and they shouldn't be attacking police.
You know, if you're breaking the law
and you're threatening the cops with weapons, you know, you deserve't be attacking police you know if you if you're breaking the law and you're you're threatening the cops with
weapons you know you deserve to get what you get so you know that the law
enforcement you know it protects us all you know if we don't have law
enforcement it'd be the wild wild west so you know people need to go give a pat
on the back to law enforcement every single day and thank them for for
keeping us all safe otherwise you know all these criminals will be running the
streets wild and none of us would be safe. So you're saying that Tyron Woodley supports criminal behavior and
encourages it? Yeah, absolutely. You know, he's a communist. You know, he's a Marxist. You know,
he stands for criminals. You know, he hates America. And that's why he got broke tonight. Understood. What makes him a
communist? I don't understand how you arrived at that conclusion that he's a
communist. Because everything that he stands for man he's just he stands for
everything that is against America. He doesn't like America. He doesn't stand up
for the rights of America. He doesn't stand up for law enforcement officers. He
wants to defund
the police. These are the same police that give him private security and him and his family,
you know, daily. So, you know, now you want to vilify them and put targets on their back like
LeBron James. You know, these guys are heroes, man. These guys are real celebrities. So,
you know, we need to give a shout to law enforcement and stop trying to vilify them.
Well, and Andreas, and again, the thing for me is, you know, Dana White supports Donald
Trump.
Kobe supports Donald Trump.
I still say that Ari Emanuel and Endeavor, they can't also get away from this.
I looked at all of these different stories and everybody keeps focusing on Dana White.
I don't know why these media people forget that Dana White has a boss.
Endeavor owns them.
And Ari Manuel and Endeavor has to say something because it's a contradiction and, yes, hypocritical for them to talk about black voices, black culture, black lives matter.
And they have an overt racist as one of their employees.
They are paying him. And also, Disney and ESPN is throwing lots of money towards the UFC direction
as well. Yeah, I mean, first things first, what we just heard from Colby Covington is a man who
has no idea what communism means, what Marxism means. These are all buzzwords for that man.
He has no clue what he's talking about. He's pandering to a base and he's living a gimmick.
Now, when we talk about WME and Endeavor, you're absolutely right.
They should do something.
But again, when it comes to money,
people don't want to take that extra step.
Things are racist until the money is green
and then they want to step back and say,
look, you're making me a lot of money.
I'm going to let you do what you want to do.
But Dana White has stood on this platform for a long time.
Listen, the man spoke at the Republican National Convention,
condemned the protest,
has never said anything about police brutality in America.
And when the this the only sporting organization that didn't release a statement supporting Black Lives Matter, NASCAR did.
If NASCAR can't, why can't the UFC? So WME absolutely has to do something about this.
Ari Manuel can't sit on his hands any longer. He has to make a move.
AJ, go ahead. if I don't comment.
Absolutely, I agree with that. This has to go above the UFC, above Dana White. This is about the owners at this point. And if it's, you know, I guarantee you this line about not muzzling people,
there is a line. This is not a free for all. You know, if somebody, if a fighter were talking
about the UFC, it'd be a totally different story.
If we had somebody maybe talking bad about Jewish folks, this would probably be a different story.
And we wouldn't be talking about people not being muzzled.
All right, gentlemen, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much.
Thank you. All right, folks, we're going to end the show.
Republican voters against Trump released an ad of Olivia Troy on Lafayette Square about Trump stoking civil unrest.
And the folks said this was dropped by the people that might have touched.
These are a couple of the anti-Trump ads.
I just want to go ahead and just run those.
So check this out.
I think Donald Trump is a political car wreck.
A race-baiting, xenophobic religious picket.
No, I don't think he's a xenophobic, race-baiting religious picket.
I think he's a kook. I think heing religious big I think he's a kook I think he's crazy I think he's unfit for office what concerns me about the American press is this endless endless
attempt to label the guy as some kind of kook not fit to be president yeah an
opening comes in the last year of President Trump's term we'll wait to the
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Yeah.
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It was shocking to see the president saying that the virus was a hoax,
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It was the opportunity and honor of a lifetime to be able to serve in the White House. I put my
heart and soul into this role every single
day. But at some point, I would come home at night, I would look myself in the mirror and say,
are you really making a difference? Does it matter? Because no matter how hard you work and what you
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is why you signed up for this role. It was awful. It was terrifying. I have been a Republican for my entire life. I am a McCain
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And it is our responsibility to impact our public policy, impact those people who are out
here there to represent us, which means that every single one of us must be engaged in this election.
Oh, let me be perfectly clear. There's no perfect candidate. Joe Biden is not perfect. Donald Trump
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What we also have to understand is what are going to be the impact of those decisions?
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I broke the whole thing down where he's lied.
Donald Trump has lied about what he's done for HBCU funding. Donald Trump has lied about all the best economic news for black people ever.
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