#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 9.27 #RMU: Amber Guyger testifies; Bill Cosby marks 1 year in prison; Young Black girls bullied

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9.27.19 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Amber Guyger takes the stand; How is Bill Cosby doing after one year in prison? Florida commissioner gave a verbal beat down to the police officer who arrested him years ago; Young Black girls bullied; Former ICE agent gets testy with Rep. Pramila Jayapal; Young white kids bullying young black girls; Crazy Ass White woman's actions in LA may get her fired. - #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: Life Luxe Jazz Life Luxe Jazz is the experience of a lifetime, delivering top-notch music in an upscale destination. The weekend-long event is held at the Omnia Dayclub Los Cabos, which is nestled on the Sea of Cortez in the celebrity playground of Los Cabos, Mexico. For more information visit the website at lifeluxejazz.com. - #RolandMartinUnfiltered partner: 420 Real Estate, LLC To invest in 420 Real Estate’s legal Hemp-CBD Crowdfunding Campaign go to http://marijuanastock.org Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Să facem o pătrunjelă cu toate pătrunjelor. Să facem o pătrunjelă cu toate pătrunjelor. Să facem o pătrunjelă cu toate pătrunjelor. Să facem o pătrunjelă cu toate pătrunjelor. Să facem o pătrunjelă cu toate pătrunjelor. Să facem o pătrunjelă cu toate pătrunjelă. Thank you. Today is Friday, September 27th, 2019. Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, Amber Geiger takes the stand on the 50th day of her trial

for murdering both of Jean. We'll show you the crying former Dallas police officer. Bill Cosby went to jail just over a year ago. We'll talk with his spokesman Andrew Wyatt to see how he is doing. A Florida commissioner gave a verbal beat down to a cop who arrested him several years ago in a ceremony honoring the cop. Speaking of verbal beatdowns, a former ICE official got pretty heated with a congresswoman.

Y'all gotta see this white man trying to talk down to this sister. Plus, bullying young black girls by young white kids will tell you two cases, including one where they cut the dreadlocks of this sister at a school where the wife of Vice President Mike Pence teaches, and also crazy-ass white woman loses her mind in LA.

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She, of course, is on trial for the murder of Botham Jean. She walked into his apartment. She says she was mistaken, thinking it was hers, shot and killed him. Well, on the stand today, prosecutors were very, very tough on her as they broke down her testimony. Here's what she had to say. Hand over an injured step. And I'm going to need you to step back. First of all,

when you were walking down that hall, I want you to show the jury how you carried this equipment, okay? No, I couldn't do it. I need to take a break. No, keep going. I want to know what you're talking about. And what happened is? What happened was I put the key into the key, the lock. I see that it's cracked open. And at the same time, I'm hearing this moving around. But me putting that key, the key fob into the lock, it's pushing the door open.

And everything's happening all at once. Okay, let me ask you that. We're breaking this down, but how fast can you tell the jury this is happening? Less than two seconds. The motions of me doing all this is less than two seconds. Tell the jury what you felt inside and what you felt in your brain when you saw those three things happen. I was scared to death. How quickly did that happen?

Less than two seconds. It was quick. Why were you scared? I was scared. I thought I came home and somebody, they're inside my apartment. And the elements started to meet on me. Your heart rate just skyrocketed. Feeling you never want to feel again. As the door opened, did you see anything in your apartment? Yes, I did.

That's when I heard. How did the door get fully open? I used my left arm to fully open it. And at that time, that's whenever I'm drawing my service weapon out. All at the same time? Yes, sir. Okay. When you saw that figure or silhouette of a figure in the back, did you do anything?

Yes. That's whenever I pulled my gun out and I yelled at him. I was like, let me see your hands. Let me see your hands. What was the figure doing? Moving around. Did that cause you some concern? Yes. Why is that? I couldn't see his hands.

How fast does this happen? Real fast. It's seconds. Are you still holding your equipment? Yes, I am. What did the figure do after you said, let me see your hands? He started coming towards me. How fast was he coming towards you?

A fast-paced walk. Wasn't running? Wasn't running. When you saw him coming towards you, what was going through your mind? I thought that he was coming. I couldn't see his hands. He was going to kill me. Did you hear anything as he was walking towards you? There was a loud yell. He was yelling, hey, hey, hey, in an aggressive voice. When you pull out your weapon, and you fire, why did you fire?

I don't know. I was scared. I was scared this person was going to hurt me. And I'm so sorry. I can understand. I'm sorry. I was scared. Whoever was inside my apartment was going to kill me.

And I'm sorry. I have to live with that every single day that I hurt. I have checks and I'm responsible. This is the state. Now that you know. Now, of course, she's been charged with murder, and there are people

who have been critical of the Dallas DA for pursuing that, saying that she did not have intent. During the cross-examination, the prosecutors kept laying out that it was her intent to kill Botham Jean

when she pulled her gun. Let's go to our panel here. Dr. Neon B. Carter, Howard University Department of Political Science, Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor for environmental justice at the Environmental Protection Agency, Theresa Lundy, principal founder, TML Communications.

Theresa, it's very interesting looking at this testimony here, and again, folks are saying tragic accident, just one of those things that happens but the reality is both of them Jean is dead she's alive and here's the piece if you're if you're truly sorry okay fine plea plea to a lesser charge but the reality is she pleads not guilty. Yes, it is. I mean, so this entire case for me personally, it shows that the perception that white women have about those who, you know, are not looking like them that are in their home.

So it's obvious that she felt that she was scared. But again, I don't think she even gave a moment to the gentleman that was in her home before she put her gun. So yes, her testimony was very important when she came on the scene to the home. But again, I don't think there was any communication that was happening before people,

the trigger, multiple times. What is crazy here, Dr. Carter, is that the people who say, well, look, it was an accident. Okay, but accidents happen all the time. Absolutely. And people go to prison. Absolutely. People have consequences all the time. Absolutely. And people go to prison. Absolutely.

People have consequences for the accidents that happen. And I think, you know, as Teresa was saying, part of what, you know, shocks the conscience is, and even in her testimony, she said this is seconds. So she hadn't had time to assess the situation. She clearly hadn't even looked around, right, to see where she was. She just saw a figure and she starts firing because she says she's scared. And I think going back to being scared and you hear officers lean on this time and time again, I'm afraid. And that gives you carte blanche to shoot someone. You were closest

to the door. You had just come home. The door was cracked. I don't know if it closed behind her, but she clearly had an opportunity to step back, to flee, but she decided to stand her ground and shoot. And as you said, she won't plead because she actually thinks she did nothing wrong, that she can get off, and that she will most likely get off. I mean, all of those crocodile tears today talking about how sorry she is, but the reality is the Jeanne family

is missing a member right now. This young man's life is gone, and it is not coming back. And there are no amount of tears that can replace that. And even this idea that I don't have to own anything about this other than I'm sorry and I was afraid, I think is insulting to the Botham John family. Mustafa, what was interesting again, I was going back and forth with a Dallas conservative radio talk show host on Twitter who felt that the prosecution was using the wrong language with her, kept talking about how they overcharged her and all those different things and how this was racial resentment by Black Lives Matter.

No, what black people have been saying is that when a cop kills people, it's always something else. It's always an accident. It's always a trigger went off. It's always I was in defense. And that's what you're dealing with here and them charging with murder. Now, of course, the jury has to make this determination, but listening to her go through this, what strikes me is I was in fear. So was the dude who was in his own apartment and a cop walks in and pulls the gun out and he ends

up dead exactly and you know it's interesting i grew up in a family with police officers and law enforcement executives and i'm wondering who's doing their training anymore because the every time we keep hearing as as was just said you know folks keep saying i was afraid you know i was afraid for my life these different types of things I'm like you are supposed to be trained for very stressful situations and you are supposed to be able to take the time to properly analyze that and this definitely is that this whole case has never set properly with me there's just too many things that just don't add up and I think that the jury will end up finding that also you know I've wondered, where's the talk screen?

So if this was somebody else who had done this, they'd want to know, did you have any drugs in your system? Did you have any alcohol in your system? Did you stop someplace after work and get something? When you don't do those types of things, then there's no way for us to know if there were some other things that were going on in this process. And then the other part, too, is that, you know, you walk in, when you pull your gun, you know that there's a good possibility that somebody might lose their life. So that automatically brings you into a scenario where you are making a decision. She could have very easily took a step back, called for backup, and said there's somebody who's inside. I think there's somebody inside of my apartment. I'm going to go in or I'm going to wait for backup to come.

So there's just a whole bunch that just does not sit right. And I'm sorry. For me, this is another part of this whole privilege paradigm that goes on where folks think that they get a pass when they do certain things. Well, again, she testified today, of course. We'll wait to see what the defense does next. They likely will rest. And then it will be in the hands of the jury.

We'll certainly keep you updated on what happens in that case. All right, folks, more drama today in Washington, D.C. over the whole issue of impeaching Donald Trump. Democrats want to narrow this whole thing down to solely this Ukraine issue as opposed to the Mueller report and things along those lines. I personally think that is a mistake. You also have now Donald Trump meeting with the National Rifle Association, asking them, according to the New York Times, to pay for or help him in his defense. Wayne LaPierre, heads of the NRA, says, okay, we'll do that, but you cannot pursue any gun laws.

Talk about quid pro. Mustafa, it's interesting to see how Republicans are operating. They keep trying to throw out Joe Biden's corrupt. It's been well established that that simply ain't going to fly. Now that same whistleblower in his complaint says that they were placing these calls on a different server to keep it out of hands, a private server, which, okay, shows another motive there as well. And the pressure is on Republicans. You have Jeff Flake, a former senator, who says that if there was a private vote, 30 to 35 Republicans would vote for impeachment.

Well, that shows that those Republicans have no guts, because if you think privately he should be impeached, they usually have the guts to do it publicly. And so Democrats also want to rush this. There's talk of actually having a vote by November. Smart or a mistake? I think that you have to kind of move forward. You've got to get the facts in place. But I think that there is momentum now to move forward on the inquiry

and then to take it to the next level if folks have found everything that's in alignment to actually, you know, move forward. And I'm one who believes, you know, that if you allow too much time to pass, marketing firms, all these other folks will get into the game. They'll try and muddy the water. They'll try and lessen the impacts that currently are going on from the president, from what we've seen so far.

You know, these things that he has done in relationship to the Ukraine and this pay to play. And, you know, if you'll go out and find this dirt on Joe Biden, then, you know, I'll move these billions in your direction. Folks got to got to stand up and do the right thing. All these folks took an oath. They took an oath to help to protect the country. I see this as actually damaging the country. And, you know, we had a big conversation today actually in the airport around some conspiracy things and some other things that folks were talking about. And people on both sides of the aisle are starting to actually see the trueness of who the president currently is. So, you know, that old adage, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

He's being very clear with who he is. Yeah, I mean, I think it's actually a mistake to rush it. I believe you have to you have to properly lay this thing out and unfold it for the American people. This is the end of September. We're about to go into October. If you talk about trying to have a vote by November, what, no hearings? Hearings, I believe, serve a purpose. I believe the hearings allows for you to call witnesses, to lay out exactly what took place. I also think it's a mistake to limit it just to Ukraine.

I think you have to show the breadth and the depth of the insanity in this administration. I think showing the obstruction of justice in the Mueller report, showing how they have ignored subpoenas, how they are trying to assert a certain executive privilege where none exists, I think causes the American people to say, damn, wait, hold up. Boom, boom, boom, boom. The thing is, it's bigger than just this one incident, because if you limit it to one incident, Republicans say, oh, there's just one thing. That, to me, I think is still a mistake. Well, and I think part of the strategy may be, at least on this one thing, they can kind of move forward with the impeachment in the House.

I mean, of course, when it goes to the Senate and there's a hearing there, I mean, we know much is not going to happen in the Senate. Mitch McConnell has pretty much said this isn't happening on my watch. Well, first of all, he has to do it. He has to do it, absolutely. By the Constitution. By law. But he doesn't have to vote to the fit. Right, right.

But this is not like a bill where he can just do it. He has to do it, absolutely. By the Constitution. By law. He can't. But he doesn't have to vote to the fit. Right, right, right. But this is not like a bill. Absolutely. Where he can just ignore it. He has to have an actual trial. He has to have the trial.

But again, if you've already decided at the beginning what you're going to do, right, that no amount of information is actually going to change anything about the way you or the other Republican senators are going to vote, then it's

just an exercise, right? And I think that's partly what Democrats are concerned about, in part because American people's reticence to do something that they don't want to do, right, is just an exercise, right? And I think that's partly what Democrats are concerned about, in part because American people's reticence to do this is thinking about the cost that it will entail. This will cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Now, I happen to think that that's actually money well spent if you're thinking about the sanctity of this democracy and thinking about the integrity of the office. But I think people are a little squeamish. I mean, people remember the Clinton hearings and thinking about the integrity of the office. But I think people are a little squeamish. I mean, people remember the Clinton hearings

and thinking about all that that had wrapped up in, and it looked like political theater because... Yeah, but that was about sex. It was, absolutely. But the point is, he's going to make the claim, this is just about a friendly phone call. It's nothing. Well, of course.

But still, I think he's called this a witch hunt. The difference there was you were literally having an impeachment hearing over sex. Yes. Not trying to get a foreign nation to interfere in an election after we already have numerous intelligence agencies laying out how the Russians tried to interfere in 2016. So I think even though it's a spectacle, I think that's a different sort of thing. It was a, you can call it a moral failing, you can call it a personal failing, whatever you want. I do think the thing, though, that still sticks with people, right, is that this looked like a moment that it was about nothing. And I think for his supporters, they will say this is about nothing.

And I do agree with you, though, that doing this, right, gives the Democrats and gives the Congress the investigatory ability to look more deeply. And it may be just the Ukraine today, but we don't know where this thing stops because there was also talk on that same phone call about the Ukrainian president staying at a Trump hotel,

a business that he's not divested himself of as of today as a sitting president. There was the talk about buying U.S. missiles, buying U.S. oil. There was a lot of conversation about a lot of different kinds of things in that in that phone call. So we don't know how deep this is going to be. And this is what they're saying today. Right. But we don't actually know how long this is going to take. And it could take months. And I think it should take months. Teresa, again, what you have here is Democrats should not be afraid of months of hearings. They shouldn't be.

I think what you're seeing Democrats say is if we can hurry up and have this vote, then it won't be happening in the middle of primary season. It should be. I mean, again, this whole notion of let's hurry up the public. They can't just sort of wait for it. Let the Republicans lie. Let them spin. Let them keep saying, oh, this is amount to nothing. You keep dropping that hammer every single day and you see lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. It adds up. Absolutely. It adds up.

Absolutely, it adds up. And so one thing about Republicans are once they get the talking point, they stick to it. And they stick to it like nobody's business. Most of them that I know, they stick to it better than Democrats. And because they stick to that same talking point, that talking point will be the ruin of their basis of what this entire issue is. And so I think, you know, I agree with you. I know I agree with you, not I think. I agree with you as it relates to extending this out, having the inquiry,

having those dialogues, pulling out the extensive talking points and the bullets that really will connect with the American people so they can have an understanding of the case and in its entirety. Because in its entirety right now, it just shows, oh, you know, Donald Trump being cavalier. I just had a phone conversation. We congratulated each other.

You know, we're building a relationship, a rapport, which is not the case. The case is, is that you're doing abuse of power, that you're conveying abuse of power, and that you're making sure that your administration is also utilizing their powers for the misdeeds of what the office is supposed to do for the American people. Well, again, I think what you're seeing here, you're going to see lots of back and forth. Democrats, I believe, are making a mistake if they want to try to just hurry up and do this whole deal. Again, you must spell things out. And again, every time the Republicans try to spin, you got to nail them on it. Even Chris Wallace at Fox News blasted their spin saying it makes no sense whatsoever. And so we

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Folks, Bill Cosby was once known as America's dad. He has marked his one-year prison anniversary this week. He is serving, of course, three to ten years behind bars for drugging and sexually assaulting Andrea Constant in 2004. He was convicted last year and was moved to general population at the maximum security SCI Phoenix facility outside of Philadelphia earlier this year. Of course, according to folks there, it's become somewhat of a fellow role model for the fellow inmates. And someone who has visited him frequently over the last year is Andrew Wyatt. His spokesman, Andrew, glad to have you

on Roland Martin Unfiltered. First and foremost, there was a video, there was a post-it that was on his account, on his Instagram account, you and Ben Chavis recently visiting him. And so was that a request by Cosby for Ben Chavis to visit or did Ben want to visit Bill Cosby? How did that, how was that arranged? Well, Roland, thanks. Thanks, first off, for having me on your show. Mr. Cosby, this was Dr. Chavis' third visit with Mr. Cosby. Mr. Cosby had requested for Dr. Chavis to see him again. He wanted to talk to him and thank him for what Black Press USA has been doing to put out the truth and facts of the trial and things that the mainstream media

did not want you to hear at the trial, to hear what these, even these 404B witnesses, accusers said at the trial. The only black press was there. Black radio, national black radio wasn't there. So he wanted to thank Dr. Benjamin Chavis for standing in this fight, supporting him, and to talk about this new revolution. You know, Mr. Cosby has always said that the revolution's in the home. But right now he's saying his new revolution is in SCI Phoenix.

That's his new home. And what he's getting to do to change the lives of these young men who are up for parole, being released and going back into their communities and showing them that they can remove the DIS from disadvantage and talk about the advantages that they have as black men being better fathers, better husbands, better community leaders. And when you talk about what he's doing, so what exactly is he doing there in prison? What is his daily life like? Well, Mr. Gosby gets up at 3 a.m. every morning.

He's blind. So his body just tells him just to get up. And he might get up at midnight and he'll tell the officers to wake him up at 3 a.m. And then he exercises in his cell. He does. He's up to doing 300 leg lifts, 300es and then he goes to breakfast he's in a veterans area of the prison for inmates who served time in the military of course he did four years in the Navy and he spends his time speaking with guys guys come to his sale but what he was

asked to do roughly about six to seven months ago was start participating with two organizations that are in the prison called Man Up and Men of Valor. And he speaks to these men. It's 300 plus men. He talks to them about the umbilical cord, that you came from this umbilical cord. And how can you abuse women if you came from an umbilical cord, that you came from this umbilical cord. And how can you abuse women? If you came from an umbilical cord, your mother, you came from her, you didn't abuse her. And just various topics that they talk about and they requested him. Matter of fact, the warden, from my understanding, Tammy Ferguson, she sat in on one of these mentoring sessions and after it was done,

she spoke and said, this is a miracle. This is a living miracle because, you know, these guys, they respect him. They love him. They listen to him. They even talk about his appeal and how he should not be there. And that's what he's doing. And that's how he's passing by the time. You know, of course, Dr. Benjamin Chavis, who did seven years in North Carolina prison with the Wilmington 10, he understands, and he told Mr. Cosby, he said, you're that political prisoner that I was, and I want you to stay mentally focused and mentally strong and keep fighting this revolution, and that's what Mr. Cosby is doing. His family has not come to prison to visit him and my understanding that's because bill cosby made it clear he did not want them to come see him in prison correct correct yeah he said uh that

when he left home he didn't left home leave home with a number he left home as bill cosby and he equated it to uh going off to war He's at war. He's at war with Montgomery County in the state of Pennsylvania. And he said, when you go off to war and fight for this country, they don't send your family in to see how you're doing, because that's a distraction. And he wants to stay focused. You know, look, he's been in there a year. He received three to 10 years, Roland. And in three years, he could Roland, and in three years he could be up for parole. So he could be up for parole September 25th, 2021, but only if he attends sexual violence predator courses. And he has, he met with the counselors

last weekend. He told them, it looks like I got nine years left of this unwanted vacation. So one second, so you're saying that you're saying that in order for him to be eligible for parole he has to attend sexual predator classes. First of all how often are those classes? Sexual violent predator courses. Sexually violent predator courses and he refuses to attend those courses. Right. So he is willing to serve the full 10 years by not going to those courses. Look, Mr. Cosby maintains his innocence. And as you stated, so many guys get out of prison and they get out and they get parole because they admit guilt when they're not guilty. And once once they got out, you look at guys like Jack Johnson,

and the list goes on and on. It's hard to get that removed once you get out, and you then say, yeah, I was innocent. I said it to get out. He's holding his ground. Mr. Cosby's presumption of innocence was stripped away when they allowed the 404B witnesses to appear in that trial. And the 404B strictly states in black and white that they have to have similar interests with the accusers.

One of the women, Lisa Lovlin out of Nevada, said that I can't remember if he drugged or raped me. I don't remember anything. I just believe something happened. And they let her be a 404B witness. Janice Dickinson said, I lied in my book in 1983. I stated that Bill Cosby blew me off and didn't have sex to me. She said, I just made it up because I wanted a paycheck. And knowing Janice Dickinson's history, you still let her be a 404B witness. Juror number 11 stated, Roland, that Mr. Cosby was innocent before the trial ever started and the judge refused to remove him. The juror foreperson, she's neighbors to the court reporter of the court, of the court who's in the courtroom of the trial. So, and you let the trial go on. So Mr. Cosby

knows that he's innocent and he feels that this is a heavily funded violation against him. And he feels there's corruption against him, politically motivated when this district attorney ran for office and said, if you elect me, I'll go after Bill Cosby. So he feels that people did not want him to have a voice in this election cycle. You look at what's going on in America. Mr. Cosby has been fighting for all people rights, humanizing them for years. That's what he used a celebrity for. They did not want him to be a voice in America, and they saw him as a threat. So when you see someone as a threat, especially a black, powerful, wealthy man who's putting his money where his mouth is and making the community better,

making this world better, this is what you do to them. I'm going to have questions from each one of my panelists. First, I'm going to start with Teresa Lundy and then Dr. Naomi Carter and then of course Mustafa Ali. Teresa, your question for Andrew Wyatt. I'm actually calling you

from Philadelphia. So, you know, Bill Cosby is the president to my community. So one of our questions is, have you done enough as it relates to community support in order to help Bill Cosby? Is there anything else? I know he's serving his time, but as we look at related cases, Weinstein, President Donald Trump, is there something that we can do as influencers, as community supporters? Because again, like you said, there's so many holes in this case. What can we do to help in this effort as it relates to appeal? Look, call the Superior Court. Call those panel of judges. They gave us 35 minutes on August 12th, our attorneys, for oral arguments. They

interrupted 15 minutes after 30 minutes. When the prosecutors got up there, the prosecutors talked for 25 minutes, no interruptions, and then they helped them out and said, hey, you forgot to mention this case. We just hope these Superior Court judges, and I think the pressure needs to be put on them by the community. Look, Mr. Cosby was let down by the community. This is a guy who was giving money to black colleges before there was a Tom Joyner Foundation, before all of these people decided to do something. He gave $100 million, over $100 million, putting kids through college from the black community, people of color. And no one showed up to the trial.

Pastors were afraid. People were calling us and said, look, we're afraid because we don't want people to strip us of our money. And we don't want people to take this way. People were fearful. They didn't know where this was coming from. Political leaders who he had helped over the years were afraid. His friends were ostracized because they said, look, we don't know where this is coming from.

We feel that when he tried to buy NBC, that this is what happened. This is what started this. When he gave the pound cake speech, you know, he put, people are just fearful. And I feel like the black community, we have to stop letting white people tell us who to hate, when to hate, and how to hate our own.

And white people like Gloria Allred and her daughter, Lisa Bloom, they go after only black men. They use a Hitler-style tactic to take they go after only black men they use a hitler style tactic tactic to take down black men and black men legacies and we have to stop that we have to stand up for our own i just feel that you know the public the community the world uh should be calling these superior court judges and saying no give him a new trial no he should not be in here calling the governor of pennsylvania you, it shows as politically motivated when Josh Shapiro, the attorney general of Pennsylvania,

writes an amicus brief. Friends of the court saying, do not let Bill Cosby out. So I think that's what has to be done. I think people should mobilize. You look at what Pennsylvania and Philadelphia is doing for Meek Mill. You know, I'm glad they're doing prison reform, but this is not about Meek Mill necessarily. They're using Meek Mill as the poster child for prison reform because now the prison system is affecting their own. It's affecting suburban kids. So now we'll come to Meek Mill, a Easter poster child, but where would they be for Meek Mill 10 years from now and that's what we have to think about before i go dr carter first of all just a correction there i mean

lisa bloom and boyd all red they've actually gone after non-black men so i mean they're i mean that's been you know there are a number of cases so i mean that's i understand your point but the reality is there are cases uh individual who they who have sort of gone after Dr. Carter. Go ahead. There's so much to unpack in what Mr. Wyatt says, so I'll be as tactful as I possibly can in that, oh, thank you, in that this charge that this is all a political conspiracy for an attempt to buy NBC over 20, maybe even 30 years ago at this point, is hard to swallow, even the claim that he's a political prisoner, in part because of the things that Bill Cosby has said over time

about some of the same men he's actually in company with on an everyday basis. So my question is not so much about this case, but has his views about the people that he would call disposable, largely, right? I mean, part of that pound cake speech was saying that the people who end up in prisons and other places are not us right they're not us their failures because their communities have failed them over because of bad parenting or because because of poor choices so now that he finds himself in much similar circumstances despite his wealth how has his how have his views on criminal justice or criminal justice reform

evolved given his current circumstance? That's a great question. Mr. Cosby and I discussed the pound cake speech a couple of days ago. And as he stated, he would not change anything in his speech because what he was saying is more relevant today than it was at that time. You know, when you look at what's going on in the black community, you know, I'm a product of the black, well, I grew up in the projects investment in Alabama. And I see what's happening in the black community. You see, you know, the drug dealer going around picking up the 15 year old girl and he's 20 something years old, but because he's paying the mother's light bill, it's okay. And people turn a blind eye to it. I think what Mr. Cosby was trying to say to

people is that we have to be responsible for ourselves and responsible for our community. But what I really love what he said, he said, Andrew, you know, they said that I was airing black people, dirty laundry. He said, well, right now we're in here together with our dirty laundry. And my job now in this place is to change these young men so they could go out and be better fathers and better men. So, and then you talk about NBC 20 years ago, let's think about it. Mr. Cosby was on Nixon's enemies list as a communist because he refused to perform at the White House, along with Jane Fonda, Dick Gregory, and others. He was watched by the FBI. So how is it 40 plus years ago, he was

raping white women under the microscope of the FBI, watching his every move, his shows was counseled. He's not new to a conspiracy or a scandal like this. And the family is not new to this. And that's to answer your question. Mustafa? Mr. White, I'm going to put on my legal hat real quickly and just ask a retrospective question. Is there anything that you would do differently as counsel now that you've had some time to go through this process? Not counsel, spokesman.

Spokesman. Well, you know, even as a person who was responsible for handpicking his attorneys, and that's what I do as private investigators, you know, what I probably would have done a little differently is not chosen a jury out of Montgomery County. You know, I would have went outside of that county. That county was heavily populated for the district attorney,

and I feel that those jurors, their minds were already made up when they got there. That's why juror number 11 said before the trial started, and we had a witness who was in the room with the juror number 11 said before the trial started, and we had a witness who was in the room with the juror, a black female, to come and into a hearing with the judge and state what this white man said, that he's guilty. So let's not waste our time and just end this trial and vote him guilty. I think it was just a tainted pool. The fix was in, but, you know, Mesereau did the best that he could do under a system.

Look, the Me Too movement was founded by a Black woman, but it's really the Becky movement. The movement was founded, Me Too was founded several years ago, but when a white celebrity female posted hashtag Me Too regarding Harvey Weinstein, that's when it took fire. So, you know, when Becky claims it, it's true. And that's what Gloria Alfa read and her daughter Lisa Blasphemous Bloom was able to do, was bring the white women out and then sprinkle a little pepper in there and make it believable with a few black women,

who you don't hear or see from anymore. Will you, the question here is, will Bill Cosby do any interviews while he is in prison? Is he allowed to do so? And will he sit for one with Roland Martin Unfiltered or some other media outlet? No, we talked about that, Roland. He's not inclined to do anything right now.

Matter of fact, I went to see him today because I wasn't planning on going to see him today. But Mrs. Cosby called and had not heard from him. And she was concerned. And so when I got to the prison, I rushed over and got there. They got me back there and it was only a couple of minutes left for visitation. And he said, look, I've been in the office. The deputies brought me in the office. Someone showed up, a reporter, saying that they had information that I was going to be murdered today.

And so, but that person was just trying to get in to get a story, maybe a freelance reporter. I don't know. Those type of things happen all the time. But, you know, the president's very respectful. He's very respectful of the warden and the people there because they're just doing their jobs. But at this present time, he has not said that he's going to do an interview. But if he should, Roland, I will be the first to call you to get you in there if he's going to do that. And I just appreciate your support just for getting the facts out, you know, because right now the only people that showed up at that courthouse and all Mr. Cosby ever asked for and all he has ever asked for and

will ever ask for is just for the truth and facts of this case to be put out and for people to go and read. And black media was disappointing because the only black media that was there for a trial this big, for an iconic figure who is still considered, if you watch his social media, as America's dad, what he gave us and how he changed all our lives. For them not to show up in Black Press USA to be the only to show up, and Dr. Benjamin Chavis made sure that his reporter, Stacey Brown, was there every day, it meant a lot. And I just hope black media will do that, continue to do what you're doing right now. But I do know that, if I'm correct, that the reporter for WURD in Philadelphia was covering the trial, correct? And that's a black-owned radio station.

Not every day. Not every day. We're saying that the masses, the mainstream, like the black radio shows, they were not not there tv1 was not there you know that's all we're saying the black community need needed to hear the facts because this was a a witch hunt fun and then a lynching her funded by by white people against bill cosby because he's so powerful but in his words they they have made him more powerful than ever because the black man that he was trying to reach, as he stated, they're right here with me now. And I'm getting to reach them. All right, then. Andrew White, spokesman for Bill Cosby. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Thanks a lot, Roland has to pay $2.75 million to his to one group of his attorneys. He had challenged the California Arbitration Award that required him to pay $7 to $9 million in legal fees to L.A.-based law firm Quinn Emanuel. But again, now, of course, with the ruling, he has to pay $2.75 million to that law firm. All right, folks, going to a break right now. We come back more. A roller mark unfiltered, including

what the hell's going on? The bullying of black kids, white kids holding down a black girl in Virginia and cutting off her dreadlocks? And also, a crazy-ass white woman in L.A. shouts, if she could kill niggas, she would. All on Roland Martin Unfiltered,

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Again, we're going to have a great, great time. I want to see you guys there, again, November 7th through the 11th. While everybody else is freezing all across the country, we're going to be having a good time there in Los Cabos and so I'm looking forward to do it so again life Lux jazz comm get your packages now book your airfare let's have a hell of four days grown folks you know how we do all right folks whoo talk about privileged white man Homan, who served as the acting director of ICE from January 2017 to June 2018, just showed his ass today

in a House hearing on immigration when he chastised Democrats, including the sister who was the committee chair. Watch this. You have failed to secure the border. You have failed to work with this president to close the three loopholes we've asked for two years to close. So if you want to know why this issue exists, you need to look in the mirror. You have failed American people who are not securing the border and closing loopholes.

Mr. Homan, please respect the chair and the authority of the chair. The time of the gentleman has expired. I've asked you politely to let me go beyond my time and you let other people go beyond their time, but not to Tom Holman. He don't get me going beyond his time. Mr. Holman, we have approved an agreement between the Republicans and the Democrats with the ranking member. We increased the time of one witness, one member of Congress who was interrupted by a protest. That is done with the approval of the ranking member.

Please respect the chair's authority. I respect the chair's authority, but the chair... Mr. Holman! You work for me. I'm a taxpayer. I'm a taxpayer. You work for me. The witness will suspend. Dr. Carter, an arrogant son of a bitch. Are we surprised, right?

I mean, this is the era we live in where, well, we've always lived in, right? White men get to do all kinds of things, throw temper tantrums. Our president does it daily, right? That this man felt empowered to be in front of a panel, right, of Congress who are inviting him to testify and asking him to stop when his time

is up. And he is having a full-blown meltdown, I think mostly because this woman, this brown woman who had the nerve to cut him off and tell him it was time to stop. I mean, this is not surprising. We see things like this all the time. You can be as bad as you want to be, keep a job, keep your respect, keep your integrity, and nothing happens. And none of those men said a thing. And that's the thing that, Teresa, Republicans should have said, no, you don't disrespect the chair. I don't care what your feelings are, but they didn't. Republicans won't say that because, as Dr. Carter has stated,

one, it's privilege, and two, it's the senator who's delivering the message. And because she wasn't on their side, they felt like they did not have to do the work. But they do have to do the work. And so it's unfortunate, again, that we still see this even in government. But I don't know what to say here. Mustafa. I mean, when he said the circus, he was right. But the circus is these folks who keep coming up Capitol Hill and don don't testify they almost curse people out they belittle them they do all these different types of things

and sometimes I'm confused because I'm like why don't y'all have somebody come and escort their ass out of the chamber so until people start actually tightening these folks up they're gonna continue to act up because they see the chief who continues to do the exact same thing, so it just trickles down. All right, let's talk about again when somebody acts up in Tamarack, Florida, during a commission meeting. Officer

of the Month awards were being handed out by the mayor there, Michelle Gomez, in the city's leadership. Following a group photo with the law enforcement officers, Commissioner Mike Jelen, a brother, took the microphone from Gomez and called out Deputy Joshua Gallardo, called him back down to the front.

Y'all check out what happened. Joshua Gallardo? It's my line. Can you come down for a second? It's good to see you again. You probably don't remember me, but you're the police officer who falsely arrested me four years ago. You lied on the police report. I believe you're a rogue police officer, you're a bad police officer and you don't deserve to be here. Damn! Mustafa, and what happened there was the charters were dismissed.

They would not pursue anything against him. The officer there said that he was resisting arrest. He wasn't. And the mayor then apologized to him. We respect all cops. My man was like, damn that. He just gave his ass some real talk. I mean, that's what you got to do. When you got the mic, you got to tell people like it really is. And all he could do was shake his head yes,

because he knew he had done all these things that was jacked up. And he called him out. And let's remember, this was about someone being beaten. So this wasn't just a friendly call. This man was recording, Jelen was recording a call from a person who had been beaten by, I guess, this officer or some other officer in proximity, and he was taking video as a citizen, as a concerned person for the health and safety of another person who had been attacked, I guess, by, or at least allegedly attacked,

by the police. So I think this was rich, right? I think this is everybody's dream to be able to have the one moment, that one interaction with that one police officer, that one person who did you dirty that one time. He had his day. Teresa, he's like, player, come down. Let me holler at you.

Let me holler at you. I loved it. I don't know if anybody heard me, but I was literally cracking up. It was a laughter of, yes, finally. You know, we got the mic, we got the power, and now we're utilizing it to show your ignorance and your irrelevancy when you were

in that position of power. So congrats to him. And I'm looking forward to more people in position and in power doing the same exact thing. And the brother of y'all did not apologize at all for that. All right. Y'all know what time it is. No charcoals, girls.

They're allowed. I'm not making you talk. I'm white. I got you, girl. I'm illegally selling water without a permit. On my property. Whoa! illegally selling water without a permit. On my property. Whoa!

I'm uncomfortable. All right, y'all. Last week at a CVS in Los Angeles, a white, crazy-ass white woman lost her damn mind. Press play. Play. I hate niggas! Yeah, she's on drugs or something. No, I'm totally,

I just hate niggas. Fuck you niggas! I hate niggas! It'siggers. Oh, really? Take a break. I hate niggers. It's okay, we're calling the cops on you. I would kill a nigger, but the law says I can't kill the niggers. If the law didn't say that I couldn't kill the niggers, they'd all be dead. Where's my license plate number?

Nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger. Dead! Where's my license plate number? Nigger! Nigger! Nigger! Nigger! Well, y'all, guess what? Police are investigating this crazy-ass white woman, saying that what she was involved in was a, yes, hate crime.

Now, her tirade has been viewed nearly 2 million times on Facebook as early as today, again, sparked an investigation and has gained her the Internet hashtag, hashtag coolcluckskaren. The L.A. Police Department said a hate incident report was taken following the outburst. She also apparently works as a costume designer and has worked on several different television shows. And so, oh, guess what? Y'all know what has happened. Heather Lynn Patton ain't got a job anymore. I keep trying to explain to y'all, I don't mind white folks losing

their mind because all they keep doing is losing us. She's 49 years old. Again, she has worked in the film industry doing costume design and has worked on other roles as well. And yeah, Theresa, Heather ain't got no job. I think I got no job. I think I know my take her medication. I don't know what it was, but it was very unfortunate. You know, I'm not sure what transpired, but I think what gets me every time is when there's always an investigation into the video that we clearly see that she was out of her mind. But again, we'll wait for the investigation and looking forward to a future report. But I think saying she's out of her mind is letting her off the hook.

Damn right. We always say they lose their mind, but when white people lose it, we always become niggas. That's always at the top of their head. There was no provocation here. There was nobody here. This woman is shouting at the top of her lungs what she really feels in her interior. And of course, today she's remorseful.

Now she doesn't have a job. And then she was inebriated. And then it was, I just lost a job. And so I was feeling the way. But it's black people's fault. So we become niggers when it's convenient for white people. And then they cry when there's a real consequence to say, I didn't mean it. I made a mistake.

I make lots of mistakes all day. But I don't go around calling people racial slurs when I make a mistake. I don't go around cursing at the top of my lungs in the CVS in the middle of the day for no good reason because she went full white woman. Right. And one of the first rules, you never go full white woman in public. And when you do, you face the consequences. But what is she going to probably do post for her privacy? She's going to apologize and she's going to cry. And then hopefully this will blow over for her. Well, Mustafa,

she worked on this television show called Medium and now another person wants her removed from Local 705. Sarah DeSago-Orego says she called for other union members to file complaints against her to request her

expulsion from the union. Hit them in the pockets. When people want to act crazy, Hit them in the pockets. That's right. When people want to act crazy, hit them in the pockets. That will get their attention. She wasn't drunk because she was walking real straight into that car, made some quick little turns, and said what she needed to say, took a couple more steps, made some turns. What I think happened was she actually listened to an old Richard Pryor album, and then she came back and said, you know what?

I think I'm going to try this out on folks. And she tried it out, and she got jacked. So she has worked on Heather. Heather has worked on Dennis Leary's FX drama Rescue Me, Patricia Arquette's NBC series Medium. She also was the set costumer on movies such as Patterson, The Book of Henry, and last year's Tribeca song of back and neck. She also was the set costumer for Sarah Paulson's upcoming

Ryan Murphy Netflix Ratchet. I don't think that's going to happen. And so, yeah, Heather ain't got no job, y'all. And look, and I keep telling y'all, white America, please, by all means, if you choose to continue to show your racist behavior, please, please do so all means, if you choose to continue to show your racist behavior, please, please do so while cameras are rolling. So therefore,

more of you can lose your jobs. And so, what I hope is Black Hollywood, now that we know that there's a costume design position on the show Medium, I would certainly hope resumes of Black people would flood in to the show in order for them to be hired.

And I keep telling y'all, the more they give back to the food, we can end black unemployment. Right now. Every time they lose one of their jobs. All right, y'all. A couple of stories out there about white kids bullying black kids. The first one, upstate New York. White girls ages 10, 11, and 10 were arrested in an alleged hate crime for the school bus beating of a 10-year-old black girl.

Police in Governor, New York, a small town not far from the Canadian border, arrested the two white girls Monday following a two-week probe after the victim's parents filed a police report saying their daughter had been beaten in an assault that involved racially motivated language. The town of Governor is 95% white, 1% black. The story out of Springfield, Virginia is crazy. Three 6th grade boys are accused of pinning down a fellow classmate, a 12-year-old girl, on the playground and cutting her locks because they are nappy and ugly.

Amari Allen says she has never been more traumatized in her life until Monday when she said a group of white male classmates attacked her on the playground at Emanuel Christian School, a private K-12 school in Fairfax School, Virginia, where, of course, the wife of Vice President Mike Pence teaches. She says that one boy covered her mouth and the second boy put her hands behind her back, while the third boy pulled out scissors and cut her medium-length locks while calling her names.

Doc, they should be expelled? They should be expelled, They should be arrested. And if I'm her parents, it would have taken everything out of me to not put hands and feet on those children. Because what that says to them, I just kept thinking about the trauma and the

terror to be held down, have your mouth covered, and then somebody to pull out a sharp object. They could have stabbed her in her eye, her ear, they could have cut her face, they could have killed that girl. And we can call this harmless pranks, we can call it bullying, but that was assault. And that was a textbook

assault. And I don't care how old these boys are, if they're doing this at 11, I hate to see what they do at 15, 16, 17, and 18. Because this kind of stuff, and I just, I almost spit nails. Because where were any of the adults in either of these cases Mustafa this again what we're seeing when it comes to how? Black hair is being to be offensive And I know it firsthand so but you know the the interesting thing about this is that I hope folks will just slow down for a second and just flip the script and imagine that you had three black boys holding down a white girl, putting their hands over her mouth so she could not scream out and then cutting her hair.

And how would that play out? We all know how it would play out. So, and again, like you said, these types of behaviors were not addressed. These types of assaults were not addressed, lead young to younger men, um, you know, creating more violent crimes. So it has to be dealt with in a very serious way. Real quick, Teresa. Musafi, you're absolutely right. I mean, even if we use that same, uh, scenario and go to central park five, the scenario was a white woman was in a park. She was running. And then next thing you know, she was pinned down by an African-American. This was in a private school, in an educational institution,

where there were supposed to be teachers on site, and there was no protection. This could have been a rape assault. We don't know. But we do know that these young men are 12. There's still some pending investigation. But the immediate response from the school should have been expulsion, and it should have been law enforcement matters immediately. All right.

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