#RolandMartinUnfiltered - 9.9 RMU: Bahamians denied U.S. Entry; Black women most abused online; Harris's criminal justice plan

Episode Date: September 11, 2019

9.9.19 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Bahamians denied U.S. Entry; Black Women's Roundtable releases their 5th annual Power of the Sister Vote report detailing the political concerns and opinions of black women; New report says Black women are the most abused group online; Sen. Kamala Harris unveils her criminal justice plan; University of Alabama Dean resigned because of his tweets about race. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But it goes to show you how callous of a man that he is. Leading issues that concern black women in 2019 are criminal justice and policing reform will break down the results of a man that he is. Leading issues that concern black women in 2019 are criminal justice and policing reform will break down the results of a new poll. Speaking of that, Senator Kamala Harris, she released her criminal justice plan today. Will it pass muster? We'll break that down.

Also, another report shows that the most abused group of people online are black women and women of color. Also on the show, University of Alabama dean resigned because of tweets about race. Alabama says that wasn't the case. Plus, remembering Joan Johnson, the co-founder of Johnson Products. And I gotta talk about this with our panel.

A sister online today, actually on social media, actually said that, if you have a brother and you invite her for coffee, that's not acceptable enough. You must take her out to dinner. Really? Really? Really? Ooh, I can't wait to talk about this with our panel.

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He's punk, he's fresh, he's real The best you know, he's Rollin' Martin Now Martin Folks, stunning video came out last night. Dozens of displaced residents of the Bahamas hoping to find refuge in the United States were kicked off a ferry headed to Florida on Sunday night.

As we've been reporting, parts of the Bahamas were devastated as Hurricane Dorian lashed the country last week. Hundreds of residents are still missing, and authorities have said that it could take months to tally the dead. Now, the number, of course, right now stands at 43. 43. But folks, that didn't stop the crew, the United States crew, going to have problems. So please, all passengers that don't have U.S. visa, please proceed to disembark.

That ain't useful. Now, for the longest, of course, individuals from the Bahamas did not have to have a U.S. visa. All they needed simply was their passport and a police report. Peter Vasquez, a yacht broker in Fort Lauderdale who has been delivering aid to the

Bahamas daily, said he has been bringing storm survivors back to South Florida and they had no problems. The people were not required again to have a visa, but they did have to check in upon landing where they were processed by custom officials, according to Vasquez. Also, Donald Donald Trump spoke out today on this and talk about just, I mean, beyond idiotic what he had to say. Let me pull this video up for you guys so you can hear what he actually had to say. And it goes to show you again what kind of person we're dealing with in the White House where he where he literally. First of all, again, y'all just go to the video Did get hit not as hard as we anticipated and you look at Georgia you look at South Carolina, North Carolina I'm going to North Carolina right now, North Carolina

To have a rally for Dan Bishop But before I go to the rally we're're going to be stopping at one of the sites that got hit very hard by the hurricane. So we're also recovering from a hurricane. But we have to be very careful. Everybody needs totally proper documentation because, look, the Bahamas had some tremendous problems with people going to the Bahamas that weren't supposed to be

there. I don't want to allow people that weren't supposed to be in the Bahamas to come in to the United States, including some very bad people and some very bad gang members and some very, very bad drug dealers. So we are going to be very, very strong in that. Let me let me just explain large sections Believe it or not of the Bahamas were not hit and what we're doing is bringing the people to those sections of the Bahamas That have not been hit. We've done a lot of the USA aid We've done a lot of work with our Coast Guard with our FEMA people who have been phenomenal I mean they have been phenomenal phenomenal so we'll see what happens um again they talk about idiotics uh listen to him and even talk uh it's just crazy let's go to our panel uh shandra jefferson democratic strategist

mustafa santiago ali former senior advisor for environmental justice EPA. Also, Dr. Amos Jones, political analyst, leadership strategist. Now, his comments came after you had a White House official who said that we are going to allow folks from the Bahamas to come in for humanitarian reasons. But this is, this is a person

led also by Stephen Miller. It is abundantly clear they do not want black people in this country. Let's extend it. They don't want any non-white person, whether you're Muslim, Hispanic. I mean, people are coming, who want to come here for humanitarian reasons,

and that's not good enough for Trump. And I take huge offense at him saying that there are people who weren't supposed to be there. Like, what, you have ISIS taking refuge in the Bahamas before a major hurricane so that they can try to come into the United States? His reasoning, there's no logic to his reasoning other than that he does not want to help people who don't look like him. Absolutely.

I mean, this is someone, first of all, he's a psychopath. I really believe that he does not have the capacity for human emotion. He's also narcissistic. He does not care about anyone other than himself. And right now, the Bahamas is actually this type of response plays well for him for his base. Let's just be very clear about this. This is a political strategy here. And thirdly, I mean, he's just someone who is, I would just say, evil.

Honestly, he really is. This is another example of this. This is evil. If you look at just the devastation, the devastation there, and the fact that these people have nowhere else to go. It is not enough space in the Bahamas that was not it.

Just to really transfer everybody over there. When he says, well, you know, a lot of places in the Bahamas that weren't hit, okay, that's no different than when a hurricane hits Florida or hits Louisiana. Okay, there are 49 other states not impacted, but it doesn't mean that somehow that's really no big deal. The reality is Freeport is the second largest city

in the Bahamas. Grand Abaco, the third largest. And so, Nassau had some flooding, wasn't hit as bad. We're talking about 900, 1,000 homes wiped out. Literally, I was talking to a friend who was from the Bahamas, and she says all throughout her Facebook page is RIP, RIP, RIP. The official death toll is 43. Yeah. She said, there's far more RIPs on my Facebook page than 43. And Mustafa, to listen to this idiot, again, this is his basic response to people of color.

Mexico sending rapists and gang dealers, now drug dealers and gang members from the Bahamas. It's a continuation of framing people of color as less than human. I've worked a lot of natural disasters and man-made disasters, and people were always invited in to make sure. You know, they were processed,

but people have always come in. So what this really is is about a racist immigration policy that's broken and needs to be fixed. It is also about climate apartheid, where we separate and segregate individuals and put this tiering system in of who gets in. And a great example would be the storm also went up the coast and came over to Newfoundland.

So imagine if the people in Newfoundland had to come to America. Do you think that they would be turned away? And the other thing, too, is for people to have the forethought to actually have their passports after going through where 70,000 people are homeless right now because their homes have been destroyed. To be able to have the forethought, to have that documentation, and then be able to get on the boat and think you're finally going to go to a place where you can actually get a drink of water, where your children will be able to rest and not be afraid of what's happening, and then to be turned away, those 130 people who were turned away, that speaks to the inhumanity of this administration and their lack of understanding of why you need to have strong climate policies thought out. And a part of this is a part of the devastation that happens of making

sure that when people are fleeing from the impacts that the process will get them in. But I don't even think he's paying attention to what's going on in this country, you know, what's going on in the Bahamas. I don't think he fundamentally cares. Oh, of course not. No, of course not. Right. And that speaks to the issue of you saying that this man has no empathy.

Right. For him, this is a a country inhabited by black folks. He don't care. Absolutely. And there is no political gain. There is nothing for him to get of actually caring, other than just a basic human response. Because remember, for Donald Trump,

everything is about personal and political gain. Right, absolutely. And I would just say, just to your point also, about this is specifically a racialized standpoint, there are over a half a million white undocumented immigrants in this country right now. I have not heard one peep out of this White House about trying to round them up and get them out

or put in any sort of barriers in terms of their future. Doesn't want to. They're white. Nothing. Nothing. He wants more people from Norway. Absolutely. And they passed the buck. So just like with Sharpie Gate, when after he got caught up in that

and said, you know, he didn't do it and all this other kind of thing, you see the same thing. So now CPB is actually saying that it was the ferryman who actually made it. So they continue to pass the buck and not make sure that they are being held accountable. First of all, these folks lie.

I don't take anything that they say as truthful I assume anything that we hear from the Trump administration is a lie unless proven otherwise you don't they say innocent to proven guilty no for them they're guilty to prove it innocent yeah because that's what they do they lie about a whole bunch of stuff and's why, that's what you're dealing with there. But again, Stephen Miller, Trump, all these folks, they want this to be a white country. The reality is, if you look at their policies,

they do not like the fact that we are moving towards a nation becoming a majority people of color country. This is what their policy is. This is what the Republican Party wants. They want this to remain, as long as possible, a white country because the demographics do not align with their politics. That is the reality of what's going on here,

and let's just not even confuse it with anything else, folks. All right, it's going to go to a break. When we come back, we're going to talk about the Essence poll breaking down black women and who they are supporting this presidential campaign, but also there's a whole bunch of work candidates have to do to reach more of those sisters. We'll explain this coming up Martin. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. There's only one daily digital show out here that keeps it black and keep it real. It's Roland Martin Unfiltered.

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So let's all right, let's break down this poll here. And at the top of the poll, you're talking about the survey, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren. What is surprising to people is again, the fact that the only black woman who's in the race, Senator Kamala Harris, is sitting in fourth position. What do you think, so break it down. So what do you make of that in terms of uh black women in terms of who

they're supporting in this campaign well thus far i would say thus far this uh the other big piece of this is that over 20 the the winner was the the the people who aren't decided there's 20 the 26 number it says a lot um but you have 26 percent're undecided or didn't want to identify. One of the things is that Joe Biden really has name recognition. I still believe that's a big part of it. I think black women are also showing that we're still shopping when it comes to the fact

that there's no one candidate that has a lock on black women. And so I think candidates need to take heed on that and know that they're gonna have, whether that's Kamala Harris or anybody else. And I'll say this, polls are polls. We won't know for sure. It's a vote of ours. Snapshot in time.

Exactly. It's a snapshot in time, but what we are looking at though, is again, for black folks, extremely look smart voters black women the most loyal base for the Democratic Party is also about winning this is about winning and I think a lot of people don't quite understand that go back to 1984 when Reverend Jesse Jackson ran a lot of people were saying okay why weren't

major civil rights leaders and others supporting Reverend Jackson because they said they want to beat Ronald Reagan and so And so this is not a surprise in terms of how black folks are making strategic decisions as to what black women are saying, who I am supporting for president. Well, Joe Biden is still winning at this point, but there are also

a larger field of candidates. Normally the Democratic Party kind of leans into one or two people also. So you're talking about, you know, this field started at 20 and now it's down to, you know, the top 10 that's been decided by the party necessarily. So I don't think that's it. I mean, Ava's with me. That's true.

First of all, I don't really think it's a large field. Frankly, I think this race is really right now, it's seven people. I mean, look, look, look. That's still a big field. But, I mean, if you actually go back to 2008, seven to nine is about your number. Look,

in this survey, Cooley and Castro is getting a lesser percentage than Donald Trump. So, the bottom line is, I've never considered, if you down there at one and two, to me, you ain't in this. No, I'm just serious. I'm seriously. That's just me.

Avis, go ahead. When this survey was put together, though, at the time that this was out in the field, it included all 20-plus candidates. So it is more dispersed than it is right now in terms of who's left to debate this week. But, you know, what I found very interesting, though, I think is the major point that both of you made at the very beginning here.

We have 95% of black women who are saying we are committed to voting in 2020. Yet we have over a quarter of them, over one in four, actually say, I haven't decided whom I'm going to vote yet. That to me is saying that they want to be courted. They are putting a message out to the Democratic candidates. I don't care who you are. My vote is to be earned. It is not to be taken for granted. And we're still very early in the race. Let's face it. You know, people are now just waking up from summer vacation and figuring, oh, wait, we've got a race next year. No vote has been cast in Iowa, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Nevada. We still have a long ways to go.

Actually, the map now changes because even before Iowa votes, early voting in California is actually going to begin a month before Iowa even votes. So this year's primary is totally different from the past primaries where everything started after Iowa. If you're a candidate now,

you can actually blow off Iowa and focus on the five or six states after Iowa and still be in this. You can still be in it, but I would be very careful about doing that if I were a candidate because people are still looking at Iowa. That's still like a bellwether for the quote-unquote Midwest. Look, I think white media is, but I'm serious. I think it is, but I think that because of the number of candidates, again, you take California. If I'm Senator Kamala Harris, okay, and I'm from California, I'm not investing a hell of a whole lot in Iowa

because the most important thing, if I'm her, I got to be in my home state. That's so true. So you know what? If I'm her and I'm sitting there and I'm looking at... If I get to November and I get to middle of November and early December and I'm looking at where Iowa is, now I got to make a decision. Do I want to throw a whole bunch of resources into Iowa and come in third or fourth?

Or do I want to shift resources and say, fine, y'all can have Iowa, New Hampshire. I'm going to focus on South Carolina, Nevada, California, Florida. And that's why I'm saying I think this map is different, where it used to be you can lock up as many of the early states as possible. Like Obama thought if he won New Hampshire, the race is over. Look, I think you're going to go 20-plus states, 30 states in,

before you really, really see who the last three folks standing. And it's about the delegate count, right? And because the Democrats have changed the rules because of superdelegates, it also changes the rules. Go ahead. But no, I'm actually really excited to see a real race this year because in 2016, when I was at the DNC, we got our arses handed

to us because people felt it was a coronation for Hillary Clinton. They didn't feel like there was a real sense of competition there. And that hurt the party. Now we have choices. We have people I feel like are forced to look at who do I like, who speaks to my values. And you're right, black women, we have a chance to be counted and recorded. And it didn't just start with this poll.

It's just continuously showing where the space is. Black women are like, you're going to respect our leadership. You're going to respect our vote. So for me, I just see these numbers as a continuation of that theme that's been taking place even before Hillary, quite frankly. And where we were even in the Obama years and where black women were getting. And then by the time you got to what happened with Hillary Clinton in 2016, it was like, okay. And when that 11% dropped for the Democratic Party, that they have yet to really regain that black women see them as the most important, carrying their issues.

Let's look at the issues. Previously, Affordable Care Act, health care was the most important thing. Now we're looking at hate crimes and racism. Looking at what's happened over the last three or four years. Also, when you look at some of the other issues, do y'all have the actual graphic? Uh, folks, if you do, pull it up, please, of the issues that black women are talking about,

of what they care about, uh, in this, uh, fifth annual Powerless Sister Vote survey. Uh, so, racism, race, uh, number one. High cost of housing, two, gun violence, three, income inequality, four. But look how low where education is. And again, when you look at how these issues break down, it really changes, I think, this view.

Again, what has happened with these white supremacists, Charlottesville, you have the... We keep doing some of these crazy-ass white folks who are attacking people, calling the cops on people. I mean, this is really causing a change in what these sisters are paying attention to. Absolutely. I mean, really, what rises to the fore, because what's really important about this question,

it specifically says, you know, how do... What are the issues that are impacting you specifically and your family specifically so these are issues they feel very personally they feel attacked they feel threatened both in terms of violence but also in terms of their financial security when they're talking about things like affordable housing and inequality inequality of pay so both in terms of how they are feeling safe navigating their spaces and how they're feeling safe just navigating their world financially, black women

feel imperiled at this moment. I mean, their lives are at stake. I mean, think about it. Health care is obviously a really important issue, but the fact that it's dropped out is because we feel our lives are at stake. I have an 11-year-old son and I'm worried about him.

Let's go this here. Black women identify top challenges threatening U.S. democracy. And, look, you see this here. Racism, riots, and hate crimes, 85%. Voting rights, voter suppression tactics, 16%. Rollback of civil rights protections, 59%. Melanie, Republicans made it clear to me that black women hate them more than anybody else. I keep trying to explain to these people,

you keep messing with black people's vote, you're not going to get their vote. And that's what we're seeing. This speaks to that, again, and the rollback of civil rights protections. Right. Well, and so, in our history in this country, we have to be concerned. And at the end of the day,

even the issues that when we start talking about protecting our democracy is still also, that's why racism was up there. It wasn't just, yes, voter suppression, but the number one was race and racism still playing out because of what's happening on the streets every day. And the fact that people are more overt in our times, not our parents' or grandparents' times, in today's times.

And so that reality about what's happening on the streets is real. And so I think that's what's part of what's playing out, even when you ask the question about what's impacting the democracy in this country and race and racism. And so all across the whole poll this year, race plays a really critical factor, racism. And then all that ties to what? White nationalism. The attacks that are being taking place, even when it came down to gun violence.

Really, I think we have to go deeper in it, obviously, because I'm not the researcher here. This is my opinion. But just understanding that these issues are playing out and race is really, really critical. So, again, I want to go back to again. Let's pull this up right here. If you're if overall, if you were to vote today, who would you vote for? And actually, I said actually I said fourth, but actually it was third. So overall, so this Joe Biden, 25%, Kamala Harris, 15%, Elizabeth Warren, 12%, Bernie Sanders, 10%. Then Cory Booker, Beto O'Rourke, Andrew Yang, Donald Trump is at 1%. Castro, Buttigieg, Kirsten Gillibrand, de Blasio, all the rest of them people.

But first of all, Castro and Buttigieg still in the race below Donald Trump on black people. That should be a concern. But I do want to talk about Senator Harris at 12 percent. Excuse me, at 15 percent. First of all, that's only 3 percent ahead of Elizabeth Warren, only 5 percent ahead of Bernie Sanders. That, to me, I'm going to bring Mustafa in this conversation as well. This is a very perilous time for her campaign because to be the person who she should be most concerned about

is not Biden, it's really Elizabeth Warren. Senator Elizabeth Warren is making inroads among black women. And here's, I think, what this does. And I'm going to start with Mustafa and I'm going to come down the line here. Here's what this does. And I'm going to start with Mustafa, and I'm going to come down the line here. Here's what this does. If Senator Harris is not able to garner a significant portion of that 26%, not only does it put her chance to win the nomination in jeopardy, I think it also imperils her from even being the VIP nominee.

Yeah. Your thoughts? No, that's exactly right. I mean, and, you know, let's talk about the VIP nominee. Yeah. Your thoughts? No, that's exactly right. I mean, and, you know, let's talk about the VIP second. So there is no reason why Senator Harris has not locked up

the black vote, the black women's vote. You know, she has all of the sororities who some of them know her. Not all of them. First of all, she's an AK, so she doesn't have all of them.

Yeah, she has my sorority. Yes, yes, yes. That's true. But, you know, there is some familiarity that's there. Let me say it that way. So I think that the difference is, and I've been out there, I've had a chance to talk with almost all the candidates except for Klobuchar, and that Senator Warren actually shows up.

She's in lots of places. She spends time. When we were at the NAACP, the presidential primary, I actually watched her afterwards. And I've told this story before where she said to folks, she said, I'm going to be in 46A and B. And she actually stayed there for an hour and a half. She talked to everybody.

There were 100 people who were in in line and she spent the time so for me that's an example of how all the candidates right actually connecting with Melanie is not first of all it's not surprised that a Harris or Booker don't have the black vote locked up because let's keep in mind 2007 at this very point Obama was down more than 20 points of Senator Hillary Clinton did not have the black vote locked up. Black votes were like, alright, let's see if white folks are going to vote for you. And his fortunes changed when he won Iowa.

That's actually what happened there. So to me, I think when you look at these numbers, again, go back to the graphic please. Other preferred not to answer is 26%. Biden is at 25%. If you are a candidate, you have lots of room to grow.

But the reality is this here. If you are Senator Harris, if you are Senator Warren, if you are Senator Bernie Sanders, and you do not get a significant chunk of these black women's vote you cannot win the nomination oh that's a fact I mean black women we are the drivers we are that I mean first of all black folks across the board but among African Americans you can't give a lot of them a vote you ain't got a shot and you don't and that's just the reality so that and that's why we say black women

are still shopping so people every candidate come come, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, and everybody has an opportunity, but they're going to have to earn it and work hard for it. Because there are some things that happen, even under President Obama's era, that we didn't get. We never got the black woman Supreme Court nomination. There are things that we're going to shop. It's not just your color by any means.

It's about who is going to address the issues of concern that we have. So black folks are pragmatic about our vote. But black women, we drive the vote because we don't just show up. We bring our significant others with us. And that's when I say secret sauce. So folks got time. Do what they need to do. Work hard.

Spend the money. Respect our vote. That's the bottom line. And then I say, follow black women if you want to win. Avis, the first one was overall. Don't let me go to pull up down to 1834. They're a little different. Now, this is different.

Go to the graphic, please. Again, other preferred not to answer, 26.9%. Bernie Sanders, 18.9%. Kamala Harris, 17.1%. Elizabeth Warren, 13.7%. Joe Biden, 10.3%. Now, among 1834, Joe Biden's at 10%. Overall, he's among 26%.

Now, let me say this, Avis, and this is, again, I've said this story numerous times. If you're 1834, you're millennial, you're Gen Z, and you think you're all of that, this doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't go vote. The reality is, and that's why I don't care what none of y'all say, and y'all can say, well, you wrong being 50. No, you wrong.

The reality is here. Black people, 50 and over, vote. That's true. In significant numbers. And if you're Joe Biden, and if you're sitting here saying, I need to win the nomination, I am not going to be spending lots of time talking to some 18, 34-year-old people

because the reality, the numbers don't lie. The people who are going to go out there in South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Illinois, I can go down the line, will be older black people. I keep trying to tell these damn millennials and these Gen Zers,

if y'all want to have an impact on politics running your mouth and tweeting and posting on instagram ain't it it has to be in the numbers you got to actually vote absolutely have to vote but in it and it's an unfortunate thing because it's almost like a chicken and the egg problem right because you know if they're not being courted then they're going to say well why should i vote for you? Like, nobody cares. And then it just continues to sort of spiral out of control. So that's a problem. Another very interesting thing to me for the millennial findings there is that Cory Booker plummets.

As you can see, he goes all the way down to one. He's at 1.7%. Exactly. Overall, he was at 4%. Absolutely. And so, and also interesting was that Kamala's numbers actually went up slightly among millennials as compared to black women overall, which really surprised me given a lot of the pushback. So among 1834, she's at 17.1%. Yeah. And then overall, she's at 15%. Absolutely. So that really surprised me given all of the pushback she's been getting around her prosecutorial

path. But the bottom line is in terms of your other question around why aren't the black candidates doing a little bit better, I think another slice at this, Mel hit it brilliantly when she said about how the disappointments, quite frankly, that many of us still feel following the Obama administration about those things that didn't happen, that perhaps one of what many of us wish had happened. And I believe that the next black candidates and these are the first ones to sort of test that water after him are gonna have a harder they're gonna have a harder time gaining the trust of black people then he did because they will say

a lot of us say well you know we voted we hoped we expected we got you in office not once but twice and though there were many things that happened there were a lot of things that didn't and we see other communities in some circumstances seem to be more directly addressed and more publicly addressed than ours and so this next group of black candidates and frankly I believe every black candidate that comes after him it's is gonna have to work even harder to get the black vote.

Look, DeShondra, I, any of these black candidates, I don't wanna hear none of that. You know why? Because had they actually listened to my damn show... Well... I'm sorry. Y'all can go rule. You can go pull the tape. I said from the third year to the eighth year,

I kept saying, listen up. The next black person running for president will not have the same runway as Obama did. All these people kept telling me why you hate. I said, I'm trying to tell y'all. And even, see, this is the mistake. This is the mistake that all these people keep making, is that they mistake black folks' love and affection for the Obamas and thinking that that translated also to a policy piece. While it was happening.

And see, this was one of the problems here. One of the problems is that black leadership wanted to press harder. Black folks wouldn't let them. That's true. Black people penalized black leadership. Yet it is. I mean, I can

do a roll call on that one. But so then what happens is after eight years, folks are like, oh my God, what the hell happened? Because it came down to also hardcore politics. And I kept making the point that for African-Americans, we focused on him being the first black president and not the 44th.

And so for these candidates, now let me, someone get your thoughts on this. So here's to me, I believe the mistake that Senator Booker made and Senator Kamala Harris made. Okay? I want to get your thoughts on this. So here's, I think, the mistake that they made.

Senator Cory Booker was thinking about the presidency the moment he won the United States Senate. If I was Senator Cory Booker, and I'm the only moment he won the United States Senate. If I was Senator Cory Booker, and I'm the only, even if I got a black man in the White House, and I'm the only, let's just let me just get real raw with y'all.

Okay? Obama wasn't doing black conventions. Let me just go ahead and help y'all out. President Obama only spoke at one black convention a year. If y'all want me to do President Obama only spoke at one black convention a year. If y'all want me to do a roll call, I'll do a roll call. Okay?

Senator Cory Booker should have said, all right, I'm going to lock down black America. I'm going to NABJ, NBA. I'm going to the dentist folks. I'm going to the National Medical Association. I'm hitting everybody. I'm hitting black the dentist folks. I'm going to the National Medical Association. I'm hitting everybody. I'm hitting black men's groups. I'm hitting black radio.

I'm everywhere. Senator Kamala Harris, when she got elected, what she should have done, she should have said, I'm hitting every black women's group in the first two years of me being United States Senator. I'm hitting everybody. Because she's running for president

the moment she won United States Senate. It took her nine months to do my TV One show. And I call her people out. I'm like, we the only black show. I was thinking you nine months. Why am I saying that? Because had they done that black folks would have heard them speaking touched them felt them and they would have had them booker

several years and has only about two and a half years before they decided to run for president they're now seeing the results of not doing that and that's i think what it lagging behind go ahead they took our vote for granted just like everyone else yes yes wait hold on let's face no yeah i think they chose actually i think they thought running the obama game plan will work a second time when if they had listened we said don't use that playbook because it only works one time. The novelty of having the first black president has worn off. Yes. But I do think that they have. And we live in the backlash.

I'm black, too. I'm Cory Booker. I'm black, too. And it's like, no, we're not going to just come for you because you look like us. You don't have a relationship with us. You're right. You haven't gone to NABJ or Urban League or anything else. We want to know who you are.

We want to hear from you before you step out into the main stage. We want relationships. But I would also say, too, because I won't say they went to everything. But I ran into Cora Booker and both of them. I'm talking about having a, not just the conventions. What I'm really talking about is,

which they did not maximize black radio. Look, I have the news segment on Tom's Join the Morning Show. I can tell you. If you want to come on Tom's Join the Morning Show as a politician, it was my segment. I can tell you on one hand how many times in the last 11 years they did Joyner?

And what I'm saying is, if that was your plan, if that was your plan, I'm sitting there going, all right, black people get the information from where? Black radio. I'm coming on Tom Joyner Steve Harvey Ricky smiley Erica Campbell Bayston Hughley also, I'm coming on once every three months See that way you're hearing me because even though you're not a state senator and from New Jersey, California They're really seeing you right? So that's what I mean by Working and saturating so you take the organizations and black media. Oh, now, two, three, four years in, when you announce,

we've heard you. We know you. We've touched you. We've seen you. Now you're not starting, because the reality is, in many ways, they were starting from the same position as Buttigieg, as O'Rourke,

as the rest of the candidates. So now you've got to really work for it versus had you put that work in when you were U.S. Senator. To me, I just think that's playing a huge role when I see these numbers. Mm-hmm. But see, I know, I think that's taking us... I think that's taking us... Hold on, they gotta put it in.

I really think that in some ways that's taking the black vote for granted. They think it's going to be automatic. Here I am, a black candidate. I'm coming before you. I need you to support me, just like you supported Obama. They haven't put in the work because they haven't been thinking about us in that way.

And now that they're stepping on the main stage, they're disappointed. I think, Santiago, again, I think you cannot... The Obama playbook. Toss it. Yeah, it's it's not going to work again It's not work after people tried to use that playbook after Obama won and ran Call out folks now will I will our turn Davis tried that bullshit in Alabama got his ass

Yeah, she, you know, she's coalition builder. I ain't building no coalition. I'm giving to y'all raw, uncut, unfiltered. The reality is what you have. Y'all, this is the most basic thing in the world, okay? I'm just going to use media. This ain't you have. Y'all, this is the most basic thing in the world, okay? I'm just going to use media. This ain't no different. I've been gone. So I left CNN in April 2013.

We six years out. I still got my black base. Why? Because I cultivated my black base while I was there. I didn't leave TV One when I joined CNN. I stayed with TV One. I didn't leave TV One when I joined CNN. I stayed with TV One. I don't care who you are. Always lock down your base.

Because your base is what you build on. You don't try to build over here. You got to lock down your base. The entire Democratic Party needs to learn that lesson. Let's just be real. The entire, not the entire Democratic Party needs to learn that lesson. Let's just be real. The entire, not the entire Democratic Party. But we need to understand what is our base because we keep chasing these disenfranchised

white voters. Right, they're not the base. They're on our base. We need to let them go. Let God. And the reason this survey is important is because, Melody, it's about numbers. And see, this is the mistake I can't people make.

If you say Democrats will get 90% of the black vote, no. The issue is not will you get 90%. It's how many. Right. That's right. And that's a fact. 2.4% drop in 2016. But we're not going to do that extra stuff. Can you increase the... Get us to overperform?

Overperforming is beyond what's normal, right? And so in 2016, we showed up, but, you know, folks can say whatever. I was on the nonpartisan side. I'm just saying, in Florida, I was there. Not enough was done. That's a fact. Oh, I-

A lot of, I-4 corridor was not done, taken care of. And who lost... Some people lost that I-4 corridor, those who know Florida. There's a template for success in our communities and people know it. If you are a great comedian, you work the circuit. And people get to know you, and then

whenever you blow up, they come and support you. They'll pay that $50, $70, $100 ticket, that type of thing. Great singers, they work the circuit. Everybody knows that. Great preachers, they work the circuit. So with our community, you've got to work the circuit. And if you're not willing to show up, then you're not going to get our vote.

And it's just that simple. And then when you talk about, again, how you – so let's go back to the survey here. So let's go back to my iPad. let's go back to the survey here, and let me go, so let's go, go back to my iPad, let me go back to the overall number here. So you take right now, you take a Pete Buttigieg, okay, who's at 0.6%. The reality is this right here. Now, I just saw a story a moment ago, where a number of ambassadors who supported Obama, they're backing Buttigieg. You have Nicole Avant, who was one of the ambassadors to the Bahamas earlier.

You know, he's got folks who raised the money there. But again, candidates like that, it's like, at the end of the day, you can sound great, you can get all the praise you want from mainstream media, but you're going to have... If you're a Buddha judge, you can't have an event at the Harold Washington Cultural Center in Chicago and it's packed with white folks from Hyde Park.

Yeah. No, I mean, no. No, but granted, if you're a Buddha judge, if you're a Buddha judge, that's when you got to call a staff meeting and say, yo. Yeah. What the hell y'all doing? I can't be at the hell Washington Cultural Center, OK, in Bronzeville, and it's lines of white folks

from Hyde Park. I mean, and that's where, and that's lines of white folks from Hyde Park. I mean, and that's where... So, Buddha Judge, he hired Brandon Neal, okay? And I can tell you right now, within the first 48 hours, Brandon was connecting him with critical black folks. And so he had black folks on his staff, but it's also what black folks you have. Do you have black folks who are in the know?

Do you have black folks who are really involved in this? And I dare say, so I'm going to merge this with a couple things. I'm going to talk about Senator Harris' criminal justice plan, but also the debate on Thursday while all of y'all are here. To me, debate, Thursday night, Texas Southern University, HBCU, out of all candidates, she got to crush this thing on Thursday. Oh, my gosh. She lost all the numbers she had from the first debate.

I mean, first of all, you're on an HBCU campus in Third Ward in Houston, historically black neighborhood. That's called home field advantage. Now, they don't stack that. But here's her problem. Elizabeth Warren finished from the University of Houston, which is three blocks right down the street. You literally can look down the street and go,

I can see University of Houston. So Harris is going to, and to me, she has to crush it Thursday. Yes. Because she got to regain some momentum after losing it. And so the criminal justice plan that she dropped, if you're taking a look at it, your thoughts on it, because, again, we have progressive prosecutors right now.

She has to deal with her record as a prosecutor when, for black women and across the board, criminal justice reform, mass incarceration is the number one issue being talked about. And you got Trump, who's touting the First Step Act. Yeah. I mean, I think she's making some really good moves right here because she's not talking about just on the federal level.

She's also taking it all the way down to the local level. That's a part of that plan that she has. You know, she's also saying all the right things that some younger people are looking for, decriminalizing marijuana, which has just devastated our community and pulled so many young men and young women into state prisons and sometimes even federal prisons, depending on what the set of charges were. You know, folks care about the death penalty and making sure that that's no longer in place because we know it disproportionately impacts our communities as well. So I think she's making some good moves there. But she also was talking about, you know, the police and making sure the training for them

and accountability in that process. So, you know, she has the opportunity to help people to understand that she is broader than some of the things that they just heard about and they saw when she was in California. You know, because it's a mixed bag in California. But, Melanie, she has to also... Look, she's going to have to own up to some mistakes that were made.

And I think you've got to confront it. I think you've got to be... Because at the end of the day, look, Tulsi Gabbard nailed her in the last debate on it Her response was not strong And guess what now that she released his criminal justice plan Today and then also she's been getting nailed for the last month of her health care plan She said she'd be walking to a buzzsaw on Thursday. She better be prepared to answer directly

critics of her role as a district attorney and attorney general. And the way I look at it, and this even goes back to even when Joe Biden was, you know, waffling on... It's okay to say that there were unintended consequences. These young people understand that.

When it comes to... You know, when I was in college and we were dealing with things like crack cocaine, we had a different kind of thought about it because our folks were dying and were killing people. We're in the midst of it. Right. But there were still unintended consequences.

Right. And so you have to say, you know what your record is. And so when you have a president who lies just, you know, just easy as he brushes his teeth every day, people want to see, I know I will speak for me. I want you to be authentic to see, I know, I will speak for me. I want you to be authentic. I know everything I do is not perfect. So I don't need a perfect candidate.

I need somebody I can trust. And if you know that you've made a misstep or an impact in a way that wasn't proper, be real about that. But then say, this is what I am doing. This is what didn't work. This is what I'm planning on doing. Here's my record. And be real about that because at then say, this is what I am doing. This is what didn't work. This is what I'm planning on doing. Here's my record.

And be real about that, because at the end of the day, all you're going to get is that next person to you going to point it out anyway. Yeah, absolutely. So own whatever you see that did that. And I'm not speaking specifics, because I don't have enough information, to be honest, about that plan. I have not had a chance to read it.

Well, first of all, she gave the plan. It was a preview preview the New York Times unveiling it today, but I also clear the New York Times, y'all should have previewed it with black media, but that's another story. But again, but Avis, one of the things

that again jumps out, I think when you talk about one of the things I think she should do, I think she should have her own criminal justice summit where, first of all, that is your summit, One of the things I think she should do, I think she should have her own criminal justice summit. Where, first of all, that is your summit. You're live streaming it. You're putting it out there. People can ask questions.

And I also, again, and we're going to be doing these, and I can tell you all right now, I talked about doing these black men only town halls. The first candidate who said yes, who the judge? Yeah, he working now. The first candidate who said yes, who the judge? Yeah, he working now. The second candidate who said yes, Julian Castro. Now, if you are Biden,

if you're Harris, if you're Sanders, now, Warren also said she was interested. I got to follow up. But to me, this is... To me, that's where, if I'm Senator Harris, I'm looking this thing dead in the eye. And I'm taking the questions, and I'm talking to those people

because if you cannot convince black folks on your criminal justice reform plan, it don't matter what some little white liberal think because you've got to get your black numbers up. Absolutely. So this is where I think she is really crippled by her staff. She does not, she's not surrounded by the right people to give her insightful advice like what you just gave.

All I got to do is watch the show. Well, they need to. All I got to do is just tune in. Whoever her main advisors are, these people are not, they're leading her wrong. Number one, I like the plan, but she waited too damn long to pull it out. I don't understand why it took this long for it to come out when she knows from the very day that she announced, it was already coordinated, these texts, and a lot of it was misinformation, to be perfectly honest, against her. And she never,

ever addressed it, number one. Number two, I don't understand why the Tulsi thing was a surprise. She should have expected that, if not from her, from somebody, because it was out in the atmosphere. And number three, I agree. I love the idea of the summit. I was saying she could do that. She could do, like, a Philadelphia-like Obama speech

where she addresses all the issues, heads on, tells her side of the story, tells where she went wrong, tells what she wants to do now. But the summit is even better. And then lastly, I would say that she does need to do something that specifically addresses black men. Specifically addresses black men because she has a specific problem with black men.

Part of it related to the criminal justice issue. But let's also be petty, okay? Part of it related to the fact that she's married to a white man. So she needs to figure out a way to connect with black men so that they see her and respect her for herself and for the candidate that she is, and not for all of this sort of vile innuendo that keeps circulating throughout social media.

DeShondra, again, when I look at these numbers, I think if it's number one for black women, criminal justice reform, mass incarceration, if you notice number one for black men, criminal justice reform, mass incarceration, if you know it's number one for black men, and then you're going to have Trump run around talking about his appeal to black folks, because what Trump is... Trump knows he can't get black women, okay?

He already knows that, okay? What he's trying to do is, he's trying to get 15% total black support, and what he's trying to do is to put the black male support at 85% for Democrats. Because last time, it was 94%

for Hillary Clinton. 94% for Hillary Clinton. And it was about 86%, 87% for black men for Hillary Clinton. It was a nine-point gap. Also, it was a nine-point gap between black men and black women, between

Obama and Romney. This gap between black men and black women for Democrats ain't because of Trump. It was there with Obama and Romney. I'm just saying they might want to pay attention. Your final thought on this topic? He is definitely going after black men, and you see that with his digital spending.

He realizes that's an opportunity for him. He's written black women off. But, you know, when he asked in 16, you know, why not vote for me? What do you got to lose? Some people were looking around in the barbershops and like, yeah, what do I got to lose? You know, like, let me try something different because of the Obama years didn't lift me out. You know, I'm still here. I'm still in the same place. That's one thing we have to acknowledge. You know, we cannot assume that we have a lock on the black vote. We cannot assume that he is not making overtures to black men. But going back to the criminal justice plan, it is, it's a day late and a dollar short. I mean, Biden came out with his plan. Elizabeth Warren came out of her plan. Julian Castro, you know,

forget the low numbers. He's been talking about policing. He's been on it. And he's had some really good things to say in a debate. No one just knows who he is. But he's had some really insightful things to say. This is her Achilles heel, and she's just now addressing it? Yeah, it's crazy. Right. If you knew this was going to be a problem, that should have been one of the first policy things you put out of the gate.

Now, of course, now you're allowed to build up. Reality is, final point here, Melody, it's a huge swath of black women who are sitting there, waiting to be courted, waiting to back somebody. The race really begins after Thursday. I always say it. October 1, when the race began,

I said, all the rest of this crap, this is preseason. This is training camp preseason ball. Regular season now starts after Thursday. Well, you took my words, because I was going to say, the glass half-full for these candidates is post-Labor Day.

The race is on. And folks are going to have to put on the gas, show up, be everywhere, but most importantly, be authentic and address the issues. This poll gives people a snapshot in time. They see where they are. These women are vote. These are black women who vote.

Right? So if you ignore it, you know, it's free opportunity, free information for you. You know, we didn't do it for you. We did it for ourselves. So we will be clear what we know we want for our vote. And so, you know, ignore it at your peril.

Where can people, if they want to go read the whole thing, where can they go read it? They can go to unitycampaign.org. All right. Melody Campbell, we appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. Thank you. All right, we come back, folks.

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There are a lot of good things about being able to connect with your family and friends on social media, but as we've learned recently, it can also have a downside. It's become a breeding ground for hate and division, and Donald Trump uses it to exclusively attack and bully people he doesn't agree with. Recent studies show that the most abused group of people on social media, black women and women of color.

Here's a sample tweet from actress Ashley Murray in reference to 13 Reasons Why star Grace Saif, who has completely left social media. Folks, pull it up, please. You know, she left because, again, this is so crazy. People have been attacking Grace because of her character on a Netflix show. Uh, y'all, it's fictitious.

It's fictitious. Joining me now to talk about this is Jennifer Farmer. She's a communications strategist and founder of Spotlight PR. And so, in what other ways are black women being attacked? And is it, I mean obviously she's an actress who wants to respond to a show, but in what other ways are we seeing?

So what we're seeing is pervasive attack. If you're a black woman and you have a social media account, if you're on Twitter, chances are you've already experienced abuse. 84% of the tweets that go to black women contain some type of abusive or harassing message. So by merely existing, the chances of you being attacked have increased. The other thing that we're finding is that if you have the courage to state your opinion, you're also going to be attacked. Oh, I know that. I know that well. Avis knows that well. And the attacks are vicious. So when I wrote the article for The Root, I was looking at comments sent to Senator Nina Turner, who's a 2020 co-chair for Bernie Sanders. And I mean, some of the

comments to her were things that she was a fucking idiot, that Senator Sanders was paying her to have sex with him. I mean, just brutal. Nothing about policy, but the lower they can get, that's what's happening. Right. And it's also, when we talk about those level of attacks, crude, sexist in many ways. And it is hard for some people to deal with this every day. I mean, I know a number of people who just simply say, you know what, I'm done. I got to just completely log off or, like Grace did,

delete the account. Right. I mean, people tend to think that because of social media that there is a barrier. But all of us are human. And when you receive the level of attacks that we're seeing on social media, again, this is pervasive. It is hard not to let that impact your psyche. And so people from all walks of life are being impacted. And I think that

Twitter has a responsibility to do more. And in their doing more, they can't go behind closed doors, create a solution, and then come back and say, here's what we've decided to do for you. Black women have to be a part of the solution to make Twitter and other platforms a place where they can feel comfortable expressing their opinions. Question. Oh my goodness. So what would you like to see Twitter do? I hear you saying bring black women in as part of the solution. So there can be dialogue and strategy, but do you have any sort of top ofof-mind suggestions that you think could be some easy fixes that maybe not complete fixes but some quick things that the organization could do even before then to start to mitigate some of

these damaging well I'd like us to take a look at the algorithms that they're using to even flag the abuse because I've heard many people say look we've reported it they've said that it has not violated our policy. So what algorithms are they using? They also need to be more forthright with their data. The report that came out by Amnesty International said that they had been trying to get accurate information on the scope of the abuse, even though we know it's a lot.

We don't know how much, but we know that it's a lot. And so I think they need to be more forthright with that data. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. I was looking at, actually, you know, like the article and the report, It's a lot. And so I think they need to be more forthright with that data. Absolutely. I was looking at, actually, the article and the report. And it was showing that black women are more likely to be abused on Twitter and social media platforms.

And black men, it was maybe, it's still higher. It was maybe twice as much. But how do you address, again, those racial disparities without violating any type of First Amendment, you know, like, issues. So, to me, what's happening on Twitter reflects what we're seeing happening in the workplace, what we're seeing happen in the rest of society. This is not a coincidence. I think that black women struggle in many respects to be given our due, to be paid what we're worth.

The maternal health challenges, you know, they're staggering. And so I think what we're seeing on Twitter is a manifestation of how black women are faring and how we are perceived in other parts of our life. Well, I worry about online violence becoming live violence. Right, real-life violence. Yes, exactly. So I'm wondering if there are policies that folks on Capitol Hill should be moving forward on to better protect people. So I'm wondering if that's

a part of the plan. I think that is that is one of the solutions that Amnesty International lifted up. But I think part of my concern is, is this registering as a the major issue that it is? You know, are we hearing people talking about it and pushing forth policies? And my fear is that because black women and Latinx women, but black women to a greater degree, you know, we are not receiving the protection that we should. I don't know how high it's rising for some elected officials. All right. Well, Jennifer Farmer, we certainly appreciate it.

Thanks a bunch. Thank you. All right. Well, Jennifer Farmer, we still appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. Thank you. All right, folks. Now, let's talk about University of Alabama. Jamie Riley, University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa's assistant vice president and dean of students resigned last week following a Breitbart article examining his tweets on race. The article included screenshots of Riley's tweets on racism, the American flag, and the police from 2016 and 2017. These are some of the tweets right here. We have not had an opportunity to talk with Jimmy Riley. He was executive director and COO of Alpha Phi Alpha

before taking the job at the University of Alabama. It was about six months ago. And so we certainly are trying to reach out to get more information on what's going on there. Also, folks, sad news. Joan Johnson, who helped create one of the nation's largest black-owned companies, has died. She co-founded Johnson Products, the pioneering black hair care

company, which made products that we all use, like Ultrashine, Afroshine. She died Friday in Chicago after a long illness. She was 89 years old. She started Johnson Products Company in Chicago in 1954 with her husband, George. They took a $250 investment and turned it into a multi-million dollar company,

which became the first black-owned company to be traded on the American Stock Exchange. Johnson's family describes her as an advocate for women. She was a trustee at Spelman College, according to her obituary, and her family plans to continue her legacy by supporting the school with an annual scholarship. She was also known for her sense of style

and was a sponsor and organizer of the Congressional Black Caucus' fashion show. She survived by her husband, George, and their four children, as well as her grandchildren and great-grandchildren. She certainly will be missed. Our thoughts and prayers are with her and her family, all who loved her. All right, y'all. So I was on social media today. This is our last story. And I always get a kick out of certain things that we see. And so I came across this tweet, which has actually been quite hilarious. So a buddy of mine, Clarence Hill, he actually responded to this. And so let me find this tweet, y'all. So the tweet was dealing with the issue of,

the issue, well, hold on, the issue of, of course, dates. So this sister sent a tweet out, and y'all, I cracked up laughing when I saw it. And so I want to ask, just want to get y'all thoughts on this. Because I said, you know what? Okay, so who's here married? Who's single? I'm single. I'm single. Single, single, single.

Mustafa, you married? I'm everything. Uh-oh. Damn. I don't know how you can be everything. All right. All right. So, all right. This is why we have problems with dates.

So I saw this tweet, and I was like, wow. So, okay, so this sister, Yalista Jean-Charles, she tweeted, this man asked me out to coffee. I don't do coffee dates. Told him I do coffee for business meetings and with friends. Happy to get coffee with you as friends. His next message, I'm asking me to dinner proper. Men know they just want to see if they can lowball you first.

Now, what's interesting is the responses were a trip. You had men and women who were like, okay, some people agree, some people disagree. Seriously? I think that's a little crazy. Like, so for me, I think coffee is safe. You don't know if you're going to enjoy the dinner date. So why would you want to sit across from someone that you may not have a good time?

But at coffee, you drink your cup of coffee, all right? And then you have an exit plan. It's a natural exit plan. So. I agree with that. I want to know a little bit more about all this, because I believe in shoot your best shot. Like, did you already know her? Were you just asking her out? No, no. I want to know a little bit more about all this because I believe in shoot your best shot Like did you already know her were you just asking her out?

She I mean somebody she met going out it's a dinner date Clarence Hill he tweeted wrong coffee is a great first date allows you time to talk and get to know someone See if there's chemistry bad take but boy, no he scr, he went there, he said, you got to earn dinner. Better take that coffee and show some potential. And then people, and so the, but, and so this whole idea of starting low to me is, see, I'm with you on this, okay? Coffee, it can be quick, okay?

It's easy. First of all, you know know if it's typically morning, yo, look, at best, I got 45 minutes on an hour, okay? I had this one sister, she tweeted, she said, look, I ain't trying to put the makeup on and all that sort of stuff, and then it's a horrible date as well. So I don't, so this idea of men are lowballing

because it's a cheap date because it's coffee. First of all, what's the point of the date? Is it the expense being shelled out, or is it to get to know the person I'm across from? When I was a young journalist, I would be like, where you taking me to dinner? Because you know what? I wasn't making enough.

Like, I want that free meal. And I'm going to go out there. I'm going to say this. When I was young and cute, you take me to dinner. You know, you take i'm gonna say this when i was young and cute you take me to dinner you know you take me to dinner when i was calling stop right here you take me to dinner you like i want to go there because i need a free meal so that was your motive when i was 23 in new york so your motive wasn't about let me get to know this person the motive was as you're buying buying me some food and we sitting down and talking. Santiago, that's that bullshit right there. See, it ain't about...

No, I got you. I got you, but... So it wasn't about y'all want to get to know you. I'm hungry. Right. And feed me. Yeah, feed me well. You should just have, you know,

an initial opportunity to get to know each other and then if it progresses, then you move forward. It's really that simple, especially now. You know, people just want to, to know each other and then if it progresses, then you move forward. It's really that simple. Especially now. You know, people just want to, you know, dip their toe in the water. And then if they feel like they really know somebody and they see something else,

then they'll go a little bit further. Absolutely. You know, at this stage of my life, I'm not trying to waste time. I'm serious. I'm not trying to. And typically, you can find out, I believe, in the first first five ten minutes whether there's any right there absolutely so why honestly and i've actually had like a girlfriend called me to help me get out of a dinner date like exit stress please went to the bathroom like please call me and yo i i can't first of all i'm with you on that i remember uh i remember yo straight up i was at a jazz club, and I met this sister there, and I'm all ready.

I'm like, okay, all right, okay, I'm trying to sit here and work with this. But what really did it for me when she got to go to bed, she said, okay, I got to go pee. And I was like, this is over. Yeah, yeah, it was done when she came back. Not, I go to the ladies room. I was kind of like, uh. She just put it all out there?

You're like, I need a pickle. See, if that was coffee, you know what? I got to get to this meeting. See, I'm sorry. The coffee is a. Who's to say coffee can't evolve into something more? It can. That's the point.

That's why I don't understand. It's a screening mechanism. Why is she tripping on it got to be a dinner? But now she got the dinner. She didn't settle. She got her dinner. She getting her free meal. Nah, he punked out.

He punked out. See, my deal would be I'm going to put the coffee out there to actually see what your response is. Because here's the thing. You can have wonderful dates without spending one dime. Especially here in Washington, D.C. Sustained. We have all these amazing, beautiful, free museums.

I mean, that's like one of my favorite places to go. You don't have to spend a dime for that. And so to me, this thing about, well, you know, it has to be at a certain level of money exchange for it to be a good date is just complete fiction. Well, the other deal is this here. Well, first of all, I think the museum thing is like a fifth or a sixth date. That's true, because it's hard to get out of it.

Because I ain't trying to be with your ass. You have. At the National, at the Black Museum, and we on the second floor. You went there for hours. And we got eight floors left. You know, I ain't trying to, I'm trying to ditch your ass if it just ain't there.

The reflecting pool, you're going to head out. That's why I think the coffee. But first of all, responses like this, to me, really reveals the person's motive. I think because at the end of the day, to me, a date is to get to know the person. That's what it's about. So to me, it's not a matter of whether it's coffee, whether it's lunch, whether it's dinner, whether we meet for drinks or whatever. It's actually to get to know the person.

If you are trying to place a monetary value on this encounter, well, no, it's got to be this and I got to see what he's spending because first what I don't know your ass what happened to Dutch What, what, uh-uh, not with... She ain't dead, okay? Hey, hey, I don't know you that well. You know what? Y'all see how I respond when you throw out Dutch. I thought y'all strong, powerful, I got my own thing, black women, what's up?

Okay, go ahead, DeShondra, go ahead. You know what? Let me tell you what I like about dinner, because you're sitting there uninterrupted. I'm not saying you have to go to Le Cirque or Le Diplomate, but just go somewhere and have a nice meal and talk to someone. Now, if I'm going, like, if I'm doing online dating, to go to Le Cirque or Le Diplomat, but just go somewhere and have a nice meal and talk to someone. Now, if I'm doing online dating, yeah, maybe that first encounter,

the first time we're meeting, we'll sit down for coffee just so I can figure you out and make sure you ain't crazy. But I'm sorry, I do like being courted. I like being courted. I like chivalry. I think it's a problem if the first date and the second date and the third date he's trying to do coffee. Yeah, now that's the problem. No, that's an issue. Well, absolutely the beauty of working in nature and climate and the environment

I used to actually take folks and we would walk along the water so we can actually nice day and I can figure out what? Your vibe was yeah, and then if your vibe was that we want to take this to the next level then nice dinner Play whatever it might what the hell you bring? A bottle of water? I mean, you know. We were walking and talking, bro. I mean, damn. I was like, what? Yeah, and you know, you can grab some ice cream.

Clip bars? Or you can get something else. No, there wasn't. Actually, there was no food involved. It was about getting to know the person, feeling their energy, and you know, and I know. Yeah, I know about to have it. It's about to be a whole bunch of Negro environmentalists.

Right now. It's about to be a whole bunch of cats who are going to be into the environment after Santiago made his point like, yeah, I can just go in. We're just going to walk. No, I'm an environmentally conscious brother. I don't necessarily... So I would rather not deal with straws and deal with paper and those

products and so maybe you could bring your swell bottle with you and fill it up we could be environmentally conscious then we can walk so it's fitness and the environment together see you know you know some players right now are watching like hold up that's a good one i could work that well it's like i can work that one yeah okay all right i see what. I could work that one. He's like, I can work that one. Yeah, OK, uh-huh, all right. I see what your game is. Uh-huh, right. He's like, I ain't spending the damn thing.

We walking. I'll give you some poetry, though, at the end. Oh, I see. I see that's nice. Let me tell you, that works. I can tell you right now, that's going to work. That will work with women. That's right.

Ava's filled for that bullshit. Look at her. She fell for it. He said, we're going to take a walk. I'm going to drop some poetry at the end. She's going to be like,

I'm thirsty. I'm thirsty, Mustafa. What you got? All right. All right. So I want to hear what y'all got to say about that.

So please hit me with some, okay, on YouTube they're saying Dutch first date. Somebody said, you ain't coming to my home. Uh... Stop by the food cart for a taco.

Oh! Uh... Sylvia, man, sister can't get good coffee? Damn. Uh, let's see. Uh, damn. Okay, there's one dude here. You know, he don't give a... You know, he, uh, totally unfiltered.

Black women are too obese for restaurants. Take them to all-you-can-eat buffets so you know how much it costs up front. Oh, he ain't getting no dates. Bishop Eddie, that's why you probably lonely as hell right there. Let's see. Yeah, it's best to be single and just have friends.

Somebody said, hell, Mustafa, we walking. And let's see. Not on the fifth date. Okay. Angie B said, take, Mustafa, we walking. And let's see. Not on the fifth date. OK. Angie B said, take me to Olive Garden. OK, you want them breadsticks. I see. And let's see.

Let's see what we got here. Somebody said, dinner. $100 is your limit. Damn. I can do that. That'll work. $100 will work. Your bougie ass right there.

I can do that. $100. You ain't going to take the LeCirque over there? Rasika. See, right there. You know? Right there. Y'all, take the Chandra the Red Lobster, please.

I eat there, too. She tripping. Go get them cheese biscuits. No, don't do that. Go ahead. All right, y'all. So that's interesting. I want to hear y'all's responses on Periscope, Facebook, and YouTube as well.

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