#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Ala. Town Sued For Not Having Elections,Remembering OJ Simpson,Discussing Sex with Dr. Rachael Ross

Episode Date: April 13, 2024

4.12.2024  #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Ala. Town Sued For Not Having Elections,Remembering OJ Simpson,Discussing Sex with Dr. Rachael Ross A small Alabama town is being sued after white officials refused for three years to allow its first Black mayor to exercise his mayoral duties. We'll be joined by one of the attorneys from the Legal Defense Fund who filed a preliminary injunction to force Newbern, a town of about 133 people, to hold elections and allow its citizens to vote for the first time in years. The OJ Simpson murder trial will always be a trial people will talk about. Tonight, Carl Douglas, who was on the defense team led by Johnnie Cochran, will tell us what it was like defending the pro football hall of famer.  And Dr. Rachael Ross will be in the studio to discuss sexual health. #BlackStarNetwork partners:Fanbase 👉🏾 https://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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For the last three years, folks will be joined by one of the attorneys of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund who filed an injunction to force the town to hold elections. The O.J. Simpson murder, that will always be a trial people will talk about tonight. We'll chat with Carl Douglas, who was on the defense team,

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Martin The first elected and first black mayor in New Bern, Alabama has not been able to carry out his duties leaving the town because white folks there have blocked him from taking his seat for three years. Patrick Braxton assumed office by default

in 2020 when he filed for office and no one else, including the incumbent, did the same. Previous New Bern mayors had been appointed or ran unopposed with several serving for more than 10 years. Many residents did not know they were even allowed to have elections. lawsuit alleging the white town leaders arranged an illegal and secret special election preventing Braxton from appointing a majority black town council and New Bern voters from electing their candidates of choice.

And New Bern is about 77 miles southwest of Birmingham and its population is 80% black, 20% white. However, the town's leadership, except for Braxton and his town council, has been majority white for years. The Legal Defense Fund has filed a preliminary injunction to force New Bern to hold elections and to allow its citizens to vote for the first time in years. My goodness. this is okay. So I know somebody's watching me right now

and you're saying y'all have got to be kidding. But remember what happened in Ferguson, same thing, six, 7% black and for long as they didn't have black mayor, you often see this happen in these small towns in Alabama and Mississippi. And so we must understand this is a reality. Marienika Fujani joins us right now, special counsel of the LDF. She's been working on this.

Okay, so walk us through this. Walk us through this. When was the last time they actually had an election? So as we understand it, the town of New Bern has not had elections since at least the last few decades. They may not have ever had elections

before the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965. The last few decades? That's right. What the hell? What the hell? Like, what the hell? Do the people there not get news?

Were they seeing elections happening everywhere else and no one said, hey, what about us? So what's been happening is that different white residents of the town have been appointing themselves and other white residents that they know to the positions of town council member and mayor. And it's been essentially a hand-me-down governance system for the past several decades.

So nobody black said anything? No one? I'm baffled that you can have a majority black town and literally this just went on and it was okay. It is hard to wrap your mind around in terms of why before 2020, when Patrick Braxton decided to run for mayor, why did that happen previously? But that just hasn't been the practice. That hasn't been the history. And also remember that this town is quite segregated. So the Black people in the town live in a different part of town, and they have basically tended to take care of themselves by themselves without help of the official town governance. So, I mean, I get segregation.

OK, so so all of a sudden no one decides to run. So Patrick goes, hey, I'm going to run. And what they just said nope you're not gonna be the mayor I mean how first of all how does the state attorney general allow this to happen I think that's a really good question I think it that's where things really start to get complicated when Patrick Braxton decided to run for mayor. At first, the outgoing mayor did not give him the proper information to qualify for a candidate of mayor. But Mr. Braxton was very intent on running and did the research that he needed to do so that he could still qualify. And then I think the problems really began not only after he decided to run, but it was really after he recruited other residents. And then it was only black residents who decided to serve

on his town council that the outgoing white power structure decided that they wanted to put a stop to that. How large is this town's budget? What do they actually control? What are they in charge of? Well, New Bern is quite a small town that probably has between 200 to about 350 residents. There's the town post office. There's a town hall. There are a few other municipal buildings, but it's really quite small. So I don't actually think that this dispute is about getting a lot of access to town funds. It seemed to be more about holding on to those vestiges of power and trying to maintain that white-dominated town governance. So since this happened, I mean, have the black folks there woken up?

Have they said, have they realized that, man, we've been getting screwed all these years and we now want justice? We want this to be done the right way. I think since Mayor Braxton decided to run, since he recruited his town council members, since all of the media attention and the lawsuit, I think it has really changed the conversations that are happening in the town of New Bern. And it's making the residents really think about, for the first time, having a town government that serves them. So where do we stand right now? I mean, is Braxton, is he in office? What's going on?

Where we stand right now is that who the lawful mayor is and who the town council is, is in dispute. And it's really what the centerpiece of the lawsuit is. And we have a hearing on May 6th that is really going to go to the core of determining who the right mayor and town council should be and also making the town of New Bern hold elections. Is this in state court?

Is this in federal court? That's in federal court in the Southern District of Alabama. Have y'all heard anything from the state? From the town defendants? No, no, no. From state secretary of state, from state attorney general, from the governor. Is there a, I mean, where New Bern is, I'm sure there's a county government there.

So any of the county officials have you. How about the state rep or the state senator, the member of Congress that represents that area? Anything they haven't been in touch with the legal defense fund, but maybe they've been in touch with Mayor Braxton directly. Wow. I'm just, I mean, it is just stunning that we can be in 2024 and these folks, they're located in, you know, in the black belt are still trying to actually elect their own mayor in leadership. Right, absolutely. That's just wild.

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Michael M. Hotel hosts the African History Network show out of Detroit. Matt, this is absolutely crazy, bro. This is insane. This is not only insane. I thought that there had to be some weird issue with the maybe city ordinances or the code. So actually, while you were speaking with the attorney, I read the Alabama law because I was just confused. And basically, you know, in most states, they have a whole section of law that that relates to municipalities and corporations and basically how cities and towns are incorporated and what their powers are, all that. So Newborn would be a class eight municipality in the state of Alabama. And the reason I mention that is because oftentimes there are gaps when there are very small cities and towns in terms of their ability

to just govern themselves. So I thought maybe they had some kind of weird law that allowed the mayor to appoint everybody on the city council and some of the stuff I read in advance of this segment. But getting down to it, this is out-and-out racism and out-and-out preservation of power, because the Alabama codes, as it relates to even class eight municipalities, talks all up and through about elections. So the fact that there haven't been elections here, I think think is proof positive that there's clearly been a very caustic power dynamic, and there's been a power dynamic where even among 350-some-odd people, the black people there have been cordoned off and been rendered unable to participate fully in their democracy.

So I'm hoping that the federal judge sees this as just a per se, you are being divested of your 15th Amendment right to vote. You're being divested of your right to be a fully participative citizen. And hopefully he or she, you know, not only issues the injunction, but make sure that the people of Newborn actually get to have a voice. This is just this is crazy, Kelly. Just crazy. It's crazy, but it's really fascinating to me because after, you know, listening to the LDS thousands, of small towns, just like New Bern, Alabama, and certainly throughout the South, I wonder just how many are in a similar or exact same predicament, in that there are no elections because the town is so small. And, you know, I'm assuming the demographic is relatively older, usually small towns of this size. We're talking about people who have been

there their entire lives, don't really, you know, venture out and then come back. We're talking about people who have been there and have stayed there their entire lives. Residents who, you know, are pretty much used to how things are and aren't necessarily exposed to how things can be or are currently in the rest of the state, rest of the country and beyond. So I think certainly the white residents of New Bern know and take advantage of that. And not only is that disgraceful, I think it really does need to be explored by the DOJ because this is, in my opinion, an even bigger issue. Michael. Yeah, Roland, I know some people act surprised by this, but this doesn't surprise me at all,

especially if you understand the history of Alabama. No. You look at the Alabama state constitution in 1901, okay, that codified white supremacy. And that's not me saying that. That's the encyclopedia of Alabama. When you go research it, they instituted poll taxes and literacy tests to suppress the African American vote. When you go back and look at the lawsuit of Gomillion v. Lightfoot, 1961, this was to fight against the gerrymandering that the state of Alabama was doing in Tuskegee, Alabama, and locking out almost all of the African-American voters and bringing in to this district poor white voters. And Tuskegee, Alabama had a higher literacy rate than the surrounding white counties, largely because of Tuskegee Institute.

But Michael, Michael, no. I mean, first of all, you go through the civil rights movement, the black freedom movement. You got what happened in Selma. You got what happened in Birmingham. You get the Voting Rights Act of 1965. There are only 77 miles from Birmingham. Yeah, I'm a little surprised you don't have an election since 1965. I mean, that's, we didn't say 1985, 1995, 1965.

Well, Roland, January 6, 2021, you had a group of domestic terrorists to try to overthrow the government. No, no, I understand that. But an 80% black town, 20% white, not having an election since the 60s. Yeah, that's

still shocking. I'm not saying it's right. No, I'm saying again, what? There's no news that is that. This is sort of like the Japanese soldier, you know, who they found 30 years later didn't realize the war was over. I just don't understand how people living in this town got no news about any election anywhere else in the country

and was like, you know, we had one since 60-something. I'm just saying. Very quickly here, one of the points I've made before numerous times on this show is oftentimes white people will value our vote and fear our vote more so than we will, okay? And I'm not trying to condemn anybody in this town. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying white people fear the African-American vote.

And in the words of the great master teacher, historian Dr. John Henry Clark, he would say, I'm surprised that you're surprised. This does not surprise me. Since the 60s? Yeah, it surprises me. All right, got to go to break. We come back. We're going to talk about Trump rolls up to the Atlanta University Center and oh, all the MAGA people. Oh, look at the black people

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You hear me? All right, folks. So, um, anytime Donald Trump does anything with black people, we should just automatically assume it's fake. And so you've seen the videos, Trump dropping by this Chick-fil-A in the Atlanta University Center, and he gives this black woman a hug,

and oh, Lord, MAGA has been just excited, and oh, look at the black people just loving on Trump and look at this here. And so here's one of the videos. They were like, look who popped by the AUC and while he was in Atlanta, let me start this over so I can play it for y'all because it's actually, to me, it's pretty hilarious.

And I'm going to pull up in a second, so give me, I'm trying to pull it up. And so again, the way folks have played this is that this was just a surprise visit and he dropped by and he's coming by and look

and then of course, you don't know, folks at Fox News, they love running with it, you know, and that boy Lawrence B. Jones, you know, who ain't never seen a fact he refuses to check. He just, you know, it just evades, fact-checking evades Lawrence B. Jones like a haircut. And so check this out. Watch this here.

Thank you, everybody. And if they so check this out. Watch this here. Thank you, everybody. And if they run a little bit low, give them some extras, OK? Are you the boss? No, sir. Thank you. Thank you very much. You take care of yourself. Thank you. Yeah, come on over here. Come on over here. With that beautiful hair. Come on, Malika. I got your phone. I got your up. Come on up. Thank you. With that beautiful hair. Come on, Malika. Come on. Malika, James, I got your phone.

I got your phone. Come on. Go ahead. Take it. Come on. Here we go. In place. In place. In place.

Okay. I got to go this way. Thank you. And again, it's like, oh, this is. And then the sister, she's talking about the Atlanta University. Oh, we support you. We support you. Folks on social media are like, girl, this is, and then the sister, she's talking about the Atlanta University, talking about, oh, we support you, we support you. Folks on social media are like, girl, who the hell is we? Who the hell is we?

Like, who you speaking about? We support Trump. Well, the folks at Midas Touch, they've been tweeting about this, and they were like, yeah, that was all a lie. Let me show you what they put up. They talked about this, saying that what was portrayed as, you know, this impromptu thing, you'll see it right here. Breaking Trump's viral hug at Chick-fil-A was actually with a MAGA operative. It turns out Michaela Montgomery is a political consultant who worked for the Georgia GOP for years and is a city director for Candace Owens' Blexit organization. Hmm. That sort of blows up that BS nonsense. Kelly?

I mean, and I really hope I'm not, you know, being too mean about this, but I have yet to see a group, you know, a singular person or a group of black people around Trump that looks presentable. I mean, you know, the crusty wig, the ingrown hairs on the beard, the wrinkled shirts, the disheveledness. And it's like you scrape the bottom of the barrel of what we represent. And I'm not saying that we're a monolith or anything like that, but it just goes to show you how far and deep inside our trenches you have to go in order to find Black people or any race, really, to stand next to Trump in confidence as though it is a good thing to do, as though you should be proud of doing it. That is like my biggest takeaway from seeing this footage and seeing this content. It's like, this is not a representation of Black people. This is not what we are about.

And the pandering that these Black people have been doing, the groveling that I see them doing in order to be accepted by this very racist, very bigoted, very ignorant white man. It's just astounding to me how far some of us are willing to go in order to feel accepted. Here's this tweet here, Trump's press secretary. Michaela Montgomery, who met President Trump at a Chick-fil-A in Atlanta, joined Fox and friends to discuss why she and so many in the black community are all in for Trump. It was staged. It was a joke, Michael. Come on.

That's all it was. It was fraudulent. What do you expect from a guy who gained fame from a fake reality TV show, and he wasn't the one that came up with the phrase, you're fired? And according to Joanne Reed on MSNBC, it was the producers of The Apprentice who determined who was going to be voted off as well. So this is expected. Remember, 2015, when he came down that escalator at Trump Tower,

we found out that those people, they are cheering for him. Many of them were paid to be there, OK? Then he came to metro Detroit—I can't remember whether he was in Detroit or a suburb—but recently, he was here in metro Detroit and visited an auto plant. And we found out that, number one, it was a nonunion auto plant, number one. Number two, many of those people who were said to be Trump supporters, they were paid to be there as well. So this is what you get, all right? We have to expose this fraud.

And I saw that video today on D.L. Hughley's Instagram page. We have to expose this fraud and these grifters and then present the facts and evidence. Proper documentation ends all conversation. But this is what you're going to get. You're going to get more of this from Donald Trump, who's pandering and can't present any policies that are realistic that are going to help African Americans. Now, compare that to what Donald Trump and Joe Biden,

Kamala Harris have done, especially with student loan forgiveness, that continue today. Now, here's, and if y'all want to laugh, if y'all want to see a straight-up minstrel show, okay, watch this. On the campaign trail for one voter who got a big hug from Trump at an Atlanta Chick-fil-A while he met with supporters. Watch. Okay, what the media tells you, Mr. Trump, we support you. We love you.

Okay, 4 p.m. We've been 4 p.m. for a while. Come here, let me give you a hug. Please do. Thank you. We love you. Okay, 4 p.m. We've been 4 p.m. for a while. Come here, let me give you a hug. Please do. Okay, well, I'll give you a hug. Wow. Let's take a photo. That's so nice.

Wow, thank you! I told my mama I made it! Here to tell us about it is that young woman herself, Michaela Montgomery. She's also the founder of a grassroots political group to conserve the culture. Mikayla, I've been waiting for this interview all morning. I've been waiting for this my whole life.

And I've been waiting to see both of y'all out y'all damn minds. Matt, now... But you see what I'm saying with her appearance? Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, not only that, he goes there, he goes there and he lies. He talks, he mentions, oh, I've done more for HBCUs than any president in history. Flat out lie. He mentions, he mentions opportunity zones.

Flat out lie. I mean, just lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. This was a stage event and the Republicans are trying to push it out as if, oh, this was just spontaneous that he just, oh, just gave a hug to this sister. She's a campaign op. Can I yield my time to Kelly? Because I know Kelly wanted to get something in. I'm happy to yield that before I give it back. Well, Kelly's still trying to go in on her appearance.

So I want you to see. We got it. It's not just about appearance, Roland. It's just, like, for me, I'm about packaging, right? Even if you're an op, even if you are paid

to do something and make it look like something else, look good doing it. I got it. But here's my whole point. She's an op. So what they've tried,

what they've done with this is try to play black people. And this is what they do. It's not real, Matt. And again, you sit an op there who brings four or five other loud black people. The cameras come there. And their whole deal is, ooh, see, the black people just loving them some Trump. You're an op. You're not real.

And so my whole deal is, every time he comes around black people and starts lying, somebody needs to be there and say, you keep saying you've done more for HBCUs than anybody else. How much? Can you give me the number? Can you tell me what did you do? Opportunity zones. Can you

tell me exactly how much of that money went to low-income residents, people of color. Please let me know that. They can't tell you. No, they can't. And that's why right now we need that brother with the viral video. Why are you always lying?

Notice I'm saying those partials right. First of all, you're talking about uh my man oscript uh you talking about scotty so yeah go ahead it's not joining have me dying but in any event um here's the thing not only are they lying it's like we have short memories because this is the same person who took out a full page ad calling for the death penalty in response to the exonerated five so you know 30 years later to be acting as though you are a friend to black people or that you have, you know, black support in larger swaths than those who are paid

or otherwise incentivized to come and support you is flatly dishonest. But the thing about this is we see Mr. Trump doing this in not only as it relates to true political events, but selling Bibles. Like, bro, come on, you are the person who least lives the edicts of the Bible, but you're selling Bibles?

But there's such a large contingent of people out there who just are not daunted by that. And that's the bigger issue here, is that it seems like the Trump team is just emboldened to do and say whatever they want, because there's no real political loss and no political accountability for him continuing to lie. But what I think is especially problematic about this is that, look, you know, black people don't have to be monolithic. We are allowed to have our own individual thoughts, but you should never sell your self-respect in order to get clout. And that's what people like this young woman are doing, right? You're going to go and shuck and jive to get your 15 minutes of fame. But it's ridiculous because if you agree with his policy

positions, of which he has none, then you can trumpet that and say, look, these are my closely held beliefs on his actual policy. But that's not what we're seeing. We're seeing political pageantry, both from those pandering to him and Mr. Trump and his team pandering to black people with high top singles and Bibles. And it's also no shock when you have Lawrence Jones who will go on Fox News and just blatantly lie and just act just like when he had that other fool with the dude who supposedly

was with BLM in Vermont. The most softball of softball interviews. And the dude was just straight lying the whole time. And so, Lawrence, do a fact check. I mean, bump into a fact. I mean, okay, maybe you don't search for one, but like, bump into

a fact. One day. But again, that's what you see because what they love to present to their mostly white Fox News audience, hey, here are the blacks. Look at the blacks who are supporting Trump. And I'm going to say this here again for the low information voters out there, the people who don't pay any attention.

All of y'all who thought these checks were overflowing to the black community when Trump was there. Just want to remind y'all that was COVID. Just want to remind y'all of that. So if y'all actually think that Trump is just going to be flowing checks to the black neighborhood if he actually wins, y'all all need to be drug tested a massive rude awakening when there comes more tax cuts for the rich and he leaves your broke asses out to dry, like he's done Giuliani, like he's done everybody else who stood with him. But y'all go ahead and play a little game and actually think Trump has your black back. No, he plans on sending your black ass back to

somewhere else because as he said why can't we bring in more people from Norway, from Switzerland? What he's saying is white people. Just so y'all know. Alright, going to break we come back. It has been years since the O.J. Simpson trial. He's dead and folks still are fighting over O.J. Did he do it? Did he not do it? Why he keep loving white women? I mean, the online debates to me have been absolutely astounding since news came out about his death on yesterday. Next, we'll chat with Carl Douglas, who was on the legal dream team for O.J. Simpson during his double murder trial. You're watching Roller Mark Unfiltered, the Black Star Network. Support us in what we do. Be sure to join the Brain and Funk fan club.

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You hear me? Thank you. All right, folks. O.J. Simpson is still the talk of the country after news came out yesterday that he died at the age of 76 of prostate cancer. It was announced by his family. This was just a couple of months ago, on February 11th, when O.J. Simpson posted this video on Twitter. I'm going to play this for you. And, of course, he was, you know, after he got out of prison in Nevada, he was quite prolific on Twitter,

always posting various videos, commenting on all sorts of stories. And so here was the last video post. Hey, X-World, it's me, yours truly. Boy, what a beautiful day it is here in Las Vegas. Even though the game is indoors, it wouldn't have mattered. But still, it's nice to have a beautiful day like this. Hey, let me take a moment to say thank you to all the people who reached out to me. My health is good.

I mean, obviously, I'm dealing with some issues. But, hey, I think I'm just about over it, and I'll be back on that golf course, hopefully in a couple of weeks. But it was very nice hearing from you and hearing those good, positive words. Thank you. Now, as far as the game goes, obviously that was february 11th two months later oj simpson was dead uh of dying of prostate cancer all sort of stories uh have been done uh folks uh talking about the recollections of oj this new york times article i found to be quite

interesting uh this is what it says o O.J. was an earthquake. We're still living with his aftershocks. He tried to shed his blackness, but his all-consuming murder trial put the historically lurid American psyche on full display. Carl Douglas served on the Legal Dream team during that murder trial for O.J. Simpson. He joins us right now. Carl, first of all, glad to have you. I know a lot of folks been trying to get your perspective, your thoughts on O.J. Before I ask a series of questions, when was the last time you talked or saw O.J.? You know, Roland, first, thank you so much for having me on your show, man. I really appreciate it.

The last time that I spoke to O.J. was probably the day after the verdict in 1995. The last time that I saw him was in April of 2005. That was during Johnny Cochran's funeral here in Los Angeles.

Reverend L. Sharpton was giving the eulogy, and he first asked the audience. 5,000 people filled the audience. It was so crowded, Oprah Winfrey was turned away at the front door. But he first looked around and said, how many people have ever worked with Johnny L. Cochran? And I stood up, and many others who worked with him stood up as well. Then he asked, how many people here today had ever been represented by Johnny L. Cochran? And I turned to my right and I saw Michael Jackson stand up.

And one row back and maybe four or five seats away, I saw O.J. stand up as well. That sight of seeing Michael Jackson and O.J. Simpson there together at that same place is a vision that I'll probably take with me to my grave, brother. When you look at how even today there is still such a visceral reaction when just the mention of the name O.J. Simpson. I mean, I have seen memes. I've seen posts. I've seen folks reliving the trial, reposting items, talking about how it was wrong. Jurors have been interviewed on different networks. Several of them say, look, we got it right. What was it, from your perspective, what was it about this case that was unlike any other in american history because it

was a perfect storm roland of a whodunit and layered on that was race and layered on that was celebrity and later on that was domestic violence and layered on that was domestic violence. And layered on that was entertainment in Los Angeles, some would say the media capital of the world. This was before X, Facebook, or Instagram. The only game in town at that time was the O.J. Simpson trial. And so it really held the nation transfixed. When the verdict was rendered on October the 3rd of 1995, there were as many as 150 million people, more than one-third of the entire nation of this great nation of ours, were tuned in to watch that verdict. You hear about perhaps 14, 15, 19 million people watching the women's basketball game. But when you think about 150 million, 10 times that number of people watching one event, it really tells you the impact it has had on American history and American culture.

Sir, people, white, black, young and old, always will want to have a conversation with me about the O.J. Simpson trial whenever I deign to bring it up. I mean, you're absolutely right. It hit every single box. I mean, you had, you know, athlete, rich guy, he black, the ex-wife was white, Ron Goldman. You had, I mean, it was everything

all just converging at one time. And it really was about drawing a line in the sand. Folk was straight up in offices around the country picking sides. And it was an absolute black-white issue. And what was interesting about that is because you also had this black man who was doing who did everything he could to run away from black people and who openly talked about it so that that's also what was fascinating and then you got racist mark firman you got the n-word you got i mean you did i can't think what this trial didn't have sure but it also talks about the resiliency and

how great black people are because O.J. was known for saying, I'm not white, I'm not black, I'm O.J. Yet and still, when he got arrested, when he got in trouble. His black ass was black. He was embraced by the black

community. He was one of us again now. And so the response at the verdict wasn't anything about O.J. per se. But finally, once in this country, the system seemed to work in favor of a black man. And that is what we were rejoicing viscerally. And that Martin Lamont Hill actually tweeted that a lot of people got upset with his tweet when he talked about that, Mark Lamont Hill actually tweeted that, and a lot of people got upset with his tweet when he talked about that, where he said that the justice system worked the way it was supposed to work because the state did not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. And people got upset with him, and he said, I'm not saying O.J. wasn't guilty. He said, I'm not saying

he was guilty. He said, the onus on the prosecution is to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. He said, and the reality is, the doubt was there. And it's not, the juror's question, Roland, is not whether he is guilty or innocent. That's not the test. The test is whether the government has met its burden of proving him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. And I can tell you this, Roland, there's a different burden in civil courts. They only have to prove that there's a preponderance of the evidence, more likely to be true than not true, 50.001 percent. And I dare say, if I were on that jury in Santa Monica for the civil verdict, I understand how they would rule that there's 50.1 percent proof against O.J. Simpson civilly, but I also embrace and understand why this jury felt that the prosecution had failed in the midst of it, seeing the stories, jury was

sequestered, but seeing the stories and hearing everything was being talked about, hearing how everybody was being talked about. Then, of course, you had we've heard these battles between Shapiro and Cochran and who was in charge. And it was like, OK, we got the white lawyers over here and the black lawyers over here. They had the F. Lee Bailey, who was like, I'm gonna be with the black lawyers. And so you had this rate. You had this you had a racial dynamic in the country of the trial. You had a racial dynamic in the country of the trial. You had a racial dynamic on the prosecution side and a racial dynamic on defense side. You know, it's funny, Roland, because rarely in life do you have a chance to stop, step back and say, you know, this is going to be important. And I fortunately had that wisdom moment when I was there in the trial. I was 40 years old, man, working with some of the greatest legal minds in America. F. Lee Bailey was

my personal hero. Johnny Cochran, I thought, was the greatest lawyer in the world at that moment in time. Alan Dershowitz was a legal titan in the appellate world. So I can remember times sitting back on Saturday afternoons and just taking it all in because we would all meet and talk about the past week and the prior week. And some of the greatest legal minds coming together, talking about the same issues, was like finishing school, graduate school for me, who was a 15-year lawyer then in 1995. Have you, because of your involvement with this,

do you have folk today who are still mad, pissed off at you? I don't know if it's because I'm a younger brother or what it is, but I have never had a negative word said to me in my face. In fact, ironically, Mark Furman wrote in his book, I've never read it, but I was told it says, if the entire Dream Team had performed like Carl Douglas, the case would not have turned into a circus. People may have all of these extraordinary views and opinions, but I can say I have never in my face been confronted with a problem. And I am one of the few people, Roland, on behalf of the defense who will go on TV and talk about the case and defend the verdict. My community embraces me. I am welcomed. I am uplifted. And I continue to raise and uplift the memory and

the legacy of my man, my friend and mentor, Johnny Alcochran Jr., who died in 2005, because I know if he were alive, he would be at my place talking about his success, in that case, 100%. I'm'm gonna go to some questions from the panel after this question, but I gotta ask you this here. We've all seen that video of the verdict being read and the look on Kardashian's face. And when that happens and then y'all retreat to a room. What was that like? And do you believe that he was shocked by the verdict?

Because it's again, everyone, everybody makes these assumptions that, oh, he he clearly thought that O.J. was going to was going to was going to be found guilty. And it was stunned when the jury came back. I was in the second row inside the well. My back was to he and F. Lee Bailey. So I didn't see that look on his face, though I know what you're describing because they mentioned to me as well. We all went back to the back and celebrated. High fives, hugging, happy, joyous. There was not a hint or an indication, even from Bob Shapiro, that he was going to go that night

and turn his back on the entire defense team. So I'm not a mind reader. I understand the question, but I have no insight whatsoever into what was going on in his mind at that moment. But I do know when we were all together, we were all celebrating after that day. When you say what Shapiro did for folks who don't know, I think he did an interview with Barbara Walters. He did, yes. And he had an interview with them that night, and he said that the defense team had played the race card and had dealt from the bottom of the deck. That was offensive because the whole concept of using race as a defense ploy was a concept that he developed before Johnny Cochran was ever a lawyer on the case. So the hypocrisy of that statement was clear to all of us.

We were at OJ's house partying the night of the verdict. I remember watching it on the TV screen when he went and was talking about Walters. And y'all were like, the hell is he doing? And more. OJ was very vocal man okay and very vocal he was expressing anger and surprise and he was talking and he had this con this console that had three or four different tv screens on going at the same time, each one on a different news station. And he would be pacing around and yelling and talking and doing all kind of.

But then we all stopped to listen to Bob get the interview. Wow. Let's go, Matt, your first. Well, let me let me first geek out a little bit and say it is an honor to just be on the screen with you, Mr. Douglas. God willing, I have just a fraction of the legacy as a lawyer that you have, and I'm able to be a part of a team as impactful as yours. So let me give you your flowers first. And I don't want you to break privilege, but I'd love to know the answer to this question. So one thing I find as a Black lawyer is a lot of times Black clients just feel a kinship with me that they may not feel with other people on the team. I know we've talked about some of the racial issues, but what was your feeling, if you can speak to that, about how O.J. aligned with the differing views in the room in terms of strategy and just what role race played even inside the team and in terms of how the client was responding to various strategies and going forward, if you can speak to that. It was amazing, brother, because before that, O.J. chose not to see race in his life.

He melded well between all racial groups and was probably very comfortable in the white world of Brentwood. At the same time, though, he was a brother from Hunters Point in San Francisco. The brother could talk trash, play big wisp, roll some dice, and be on that level as well. And he became more understanding of the significance of race in the criminal justice system as the case evolved over the course of the many months and years. And it's unique in Los Angeles because no one could understand the O.J. Simpson verdict without understanding the racial dynamics which were then present in Los Angeles in that time and in that place. And I dare say as a lawyer there for 44 years, man, if anyone tries a case in Los Angeles and ignores the object or the subject of race, they do so to their own peril. I consider race and choosing experts and figuring out what witnesses to call and when

because it is regrettably an important factor in everything that we do as lawyers. Kelly. Thank you. I echo Matt's sentiments and being on the same screen as you, sir. It is an honor. The law nerd in me is also geeking out, so I will reel it back a little bit. My question to you isn't necessarily regarding legal strategy so much as it is, and I think it's fair to say your attenuated relationship with O.J. Simpson since the trial, based off of what you just said, the last time you saw him, the last time you spoke with him. Has your lens in regards to who O.J. is, in regards to... A lot of times the big economic forces

we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things

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How the case played out. Has that been cloudied? Has that been cleared up? Has it shifted at all since the verdict? And if so, why? It's funny because my career took off after the verdict. I remember most of what I did before that time was as a civil rights lawyer. And I would appear in civil court and say my name and who I worked for, and the entire courtroom would go silent to hear what the lawyer from Johnny Cochran's office would say. And that was a

tremendously powerful residue for my career. I left his office within years of the verdict, opening up my own firm. And the connection that I had with that case is, in Los Angeles, very uplifting, very powerful. I don't advertise because I really don't have to. My work works for me. But it is the value of my involvement in that case that has only uplifted me and my career for the 30 years since then. I used to, in the beginning, not want to embrace my involvement until I realized when a wise person told me, it's important that you are known for something. That which is considered the trial of the century, and we won. And as a trial lawyer, winning the biggest case in your career is something that we all would embrace and want to be a part of. As any lawyer who's a trial lawyer can tell you, when the game is on the line,

when the clock is running down, I want the ball in my hand so that I can be the one to make the decisions and to do that thing that is best for my client. And that's just a special part of a personality of a trial lawyer, I think. Michael. All right, Attorney Douglas, thanks for coming on today. I remember watching the trial live on CNN. This is even before MSNBC existed, so I watched it basically every day. The question I have for you is I was watching some analysis from Attorney Reba Martin on CNN, and she was talking about Mark Furman and Mark Furman allegations of him using the N-word and him perjuring himself on the witness stand during that trial.

And I think a lot of people may have forgotten about that, may not even know who Mark Furman is. Can you talk about that for a minute? And just a quick follow-up question, if I may. I just wanted to know, what do you think was the biggest piece of evidence or lack of piece of evidence that got O.J. Simpson the acquittal? Well, Mark Furman was a central detective who found a glove at the Rockingham location. of Los Angeles to allow him to retire with benefits because he harbored such virulent, racist, violent attitudes against Black and brown prisoners and suspects that he thought he was a danger to himself and to others.

He hated them so much that they would beat him, and he relished that kind of violence. So in Los Angeles, there is such distrust at that moment between the police and the African-American community. You could probably stop anyone on the streets of Los Angeles who is Black at random, and they could tell you a story of themselves, their friend, or their family member being treated unfairly by the LAPD. That distrust is something that we as the defense fed into. And when you had a central detective who took the Fifth Amendment in a murder case, that was clearly a bright line. But the seminal piece of evidence, Irespective that there were 30 days of mind-numbing DNA evidence, irrespective that there were three weeks spent on the domestic relationships and the problems that they had in their past marriage, when there was a dramatic, in-your-face, feed-away demonstration, and the murder glove did not fit the hand of the murderer,

that, I think, was the moment when we all thought that a conviction was going to be impossible and that a not guilty verdict would prevail. All right, Michael, get a follow-up come on see roland that's how smooth i am i asked you over together all right well just making sure just uh matt go ahead go ahead okay i have to ask this i'm sure everybody wants to know. So you talked about the glove demonstration. Was there a point before then when Johnny Cochran came up with the line and y'all were like, that's going to slay in closing argument? Or was that something off the cuff? Number one, I have to ask. And number two, please tell us what it was like working. I mean, you are one of the legends, but what was it like working with Brother Cochran? Because he's obviously,

you know, most of our hero as lawyers, one of our heroes. And I'd love to know what that experience was like beyond formative, of course. Surely the weekend after that glove demonstration, we would gather every Saturday in our conference room. There'd be 12 lawyers, investigators, staff sitting there working together. And there was a speaker phoning, Jerry Ullman, who was then the dean of Santa Clara's Law School, was on the phone. And Jerry Ullman said, hey, guys, hey, guys, I got a saying for us. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit. And we all first paused for a moment, thought about it, and the entire room erupted. Hey, yeah, yeah, that's the thing.

Hey, hey, hey, hey. It was a moment that I will always remember and Jerry Ullman was the one that thought of that phrase. Your second question, I was with Johnny Cochran for 12 and a half years. I always enjoyed being the man who whispered into the ear of the man. That was, to me, the seat of power. And I would always tell the lawyers, I don't care what you think, trust his instincts.

Because the brother had instincts that were gleaned over doing trials three, four, five trials a week as a city attorney for many years. He had instincts because he knew how things would play. He knew how people would be able to react to things. And as important, he had a remarkable ability. But I can't do it. He could be kicking your tail during trial and at a break, saunter over to the other side and ask you about your family. How's the wife doing? How's the kid doing? He had that remarkable ability to compartmentalize and prosecutors, defense lawyers of life loved him some johnny cocker yet he had that smooth way that was able to impress everyone he was around all right then uh carl douglas um last question when you look at all of this coverage and when you look at these conflicted feelings. Just your assessment of how you have these multiple versions

of who O.J. Simpson was and how he is going to be remembered for the rest of eternity. It's going to be complicated, regrettably, Roland. Hopefully, there will be some remembrance and recognition of how great an athlete he was in the first half of his life. But regrettably, particularly with the advent of social media, he will be most remembered for someone that America thinks got away with murder. That, I think, unfortunately, will be the lasting memory of my former client, O.J. Simpson. Carl Douglas, always a pleasure, man.

I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Brother, have me back again, please, always. Enjoy being with you. We'll have you back on. Thanks a lot. Thank you, brother. Stay well. All right, Matt, Kelly, Michael, I appreciate y'all being on today's show. Thank you so very much, all those folks who are watching.

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And it is a topic that folk, frankly, are deadly afraid to discuss. It's amazing. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin.

And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. But guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time,

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She is an actual doctor. And she makes it clear that sex is about science. How you doing, Doc? What's happening? Hey, good. What's going on, Roland? All good, all good. Fantastic.

Listen. I don't know if you all know out there, this is Black-owned. This is fabulous. This is what's up. Appreciate it. We spend so much time on other people's networks and doing other people's things. And this right here, this is the Holy Grail. This is what's up.

I appreciate it. So thanks for having me. Let's talk about that. Because, look, you've done radio. You were on The Doctors. You've been on many other shows. And everybody obviously is always focusing on these other different platforms or whatever. But when it comes to this issue, you actually said,

you know what, let me just take this thing to a whole next level. I can remember us meeting at Weber Grill in Chicago, state and grand, right across from where I live. We're talking about, okay, what you were trying to do, and now it's morphed into something that's just much larger. When did you

make that decision that, you know what, this thing is bigger than even what I think it is, so let's actually go there. Let's go there. So, you know, first, thanks for taking me back there because, you know, you've always been very supportive. You've always given such good advice. You know, you've always just been a beacon of light as to what to do. And I think when we

think about television and yeah, I was on the doctors for four seasons and you were on CNN for a bunch of seasons and when you got off CNN, I'm sure you had family members like, we miss you on CNN. When I got off the doctors, they were like, we miss you on the doctors. And I think as a people, we have to look past popular media and look for ways like what you're doing and what I'm doing, you know, pales in comparison to what you're doing, sir. But to actually get the message to the people that needs to be there.

And for me, sex and relationships really started in college. You know, I went to Freaknik one year, and I was at Vanderbilt, and my best friend was down in Spelman. And I got down there, and I said, -"Well, damn." -" I said, if this is how things are rolling in our community,

we're gonna have trouble with HIV. Because at that time, it was kind of a gay man's thing. And so I was seeing things are rolling in our community, we're going to have trouble with HIV. Because at that time, it was kind of a gay man's thing. And so I was seeing people having sex in the car, in the street, on top of the car. I said, well, shit. So it opened up a whole new... So this new documentary, you're like, yeah, I experienced it in real time.

Yes, for sure. And it was like sensory overload. I was like, okay, you know, I'm coming from Gary, Indiana, and I'm like, what in the world's happening? So I realized that sex was such a thing in our community that it was always going to be a thing. And so for me, it started with HIV and AIDS education. And then now being an adult and being married and having kids, it has morphed into this space where I see black sexuality and black sexual health and black health in general assaulted on a daily basis. I mean, you know, we have hypertension, diabetes, we die during pregnancy, you know,

we got this prostate thing going. And for me, it is about, and it has been for a really long time, is how can I package the information and get the information out there in a way that people can understand right but also so that it changes the way we're doing things so that it makes us healthier lives have live happier lives and to keep the sexual connection together between people because we're living I mean the reality is we are

we're living in a world where it reality is we are, we're living in a world where it's everywhere. I mean, it's on shows, it's in movies. The music is far more sexually charged today than it has ever been. And then there's this impression

in people's minds that oh my goodness, that sex is amazing, is wonderful, but the bottom line is, as you deal with it, there are people who are having significant issues with intimacy, with actually having sex, men and women. For sure, for sure. And I think when we connect sexuality,

I mean, you have to connect sex to everything, right? It's the reason you go out and get the new Jordans. It's the reason you get a and get the new Jordans. It's the reason you get a haircut. You know, like, the reason you look good is so much around sexual energy. And I think as a people, we're so afraid of sex and we're so afraid to talk about it

that it becomes kind of like the elephant in the room. We're all doing it. We've all done it. We've all had it. We all had to have it to get here. So to take it and make it fun, make it entertaining, make it something that's not creating this weird energy has really been what it's about. And for me, I've been in this space, you know, I've done teens, I've done women, I've done men,

and really what I've found is that men are the, you know, they're the leaders. Well, they're supposed to be the leaders of the community, right? They're supposed to be the leaders of the household, right? And what I find is that when a man gets to the point where his erection isn't working anymore, it becomes a big thing for him. And it is a saddest thing to see a gentleman. Meaning it affects him mentally. It affects in terms of how his partner sees him.

How he sees himself in the world. How he presents himself. So for me, realizing that I love black men, you know, they're an extension of me. They're a part of me, my dad, my brothers, and things like that. And so watching and seeing stuff like that happen in your own family makes you be like, oh, shit, you know,

let me get on it. And really, honestly, my dad's, he was a physician too, and kind of towards his last few years of life, you know, he just became honest with me about some of the stuff that he'd been going through with his prostate, with his erections, talking to my mom, and I said, listen, if I can prevent anybody else from going through all this, that is exactly

what my mission has been. And so, in the media space, I've been kind of all over the place, but now I have drilled down into men's health because when your erection goes south, I feel like it's kind of like an SOS signal. It is letting you know that something else is going on and what we need to do is fix the underlying cause so that the erections can stand tall. And so here's what was interesting. We were talking one day and you said that, which I was actually surprised by and you said that um which is very which i which i was actually surprised by you said that when you've had these counseling sessions you've gotten more resistance from

from the women and not the men for sure now i was surprised by that because again the assumptions that we always hear is that oh no man they look men, look, they don't want any advice. They know what they're doing. They don't want to listen to anybody. You know, it's all about ego. But you said, no, it's the women who gave you the most pushback. And the dudes were like, yo, let's figure this thing out. Definitely.

From my family practice in Gary, Indiana to practicing in L.A., to practicing in the prison system, men are much more... You know, and maybe it's because women are taking care of so many people. They're taking care of their husband, they're taking care of their kids. So they're really not as invested in themselves as men are. But men, when you tell them, listen, it's not going to work anymore if we don't fix this. If you don't get your sugar under control,

you are going to have trouble with your erections. When you guide gentlemen in the direction to heal and to get better and to feel better and look better, they are really all about it. So for me, it became about, wow, I'm leading guys and changing lives. And so for me as a physician, that was really important. I'm like, well, listen, I can sit with the ladies and we can laugh and gossip, but they're not doing it. When I talk to the guys, they make the changes, they make the shifts and, you know, we see some results. And then I also found with women, particularly in the space of sexual health, some women are going to be mad at me for this, but they get, so we get married and then have the kids and really kind of sink in this place of like, well, you know, I could live without it or I could live with it.

So basically move into this just area of contentment. You know what, fine, if it happens, not if it doesn't. And then you have men who are like, hold up, this sex every once, every two, three weeks, once a month stuff, this ain't how it's rolling. And so now you got friction. That's right, and then you're, this ain't how it's rolling. And so now, you got friction. That's right. And then you're in a tough space because they're married.

And it's not fair because you guys did make a commitment to each other. Listen, we're supposed to be here. We're supposed to have sex. This is death to a part. So you mean, I'm gonna, we're gonna die? Here we are, we're only 55. Does this mean that I'm only gonna have sex twice a year for the rest of my life?

That's the old phrase going. You better keep doing what you did to get them. So when you confront that, I mean, are you seeing that a lot? Oh, I see that all the time. I see that all the time in our community, unfortunately. I don't see it as much in other communities because it becomes kind of an agreement

and a negotiation in other communities. it becomes kind of an agreement and a negotiation in other communities. In our community, I think our mothers, you know, watching my mom, watching my aunts have kind of led us to this place where we think that, you know, once you got the kids and all that, you know, that's a thing of the past. And so it becomes difficult for me as a sexologist and as a physician to When when couples come or when women come particularly african-american women When they say they want to get their sex drive back up a lot of times That's not true a lot of times. It's just to make the partner happy

To say okay. Well, I'm trying you know, I'm going to get the test I'm trying to do these things but it has to be you, a joint effort because it's really not fair. Here it is. I'm helping the guy get his erection stronger and he's got a Maserati in the car and no keys because he can't try it out. So it's tough, you know? And if he can't test drive at home, he gonna test drive somewhere. He gonna test drive somewhere. That's my point. You know, with Facebook and everything, it's just so easy to meet people online and here and there. And then I find that there's so much... Okay, so, he said, listen, honey, you know, we really don't have sex much.

You know, it really makes me feel terrible. Right. You know, I feel really attractive. You know, people look at me when I'm at the grocery store. Women flirt. And he's trying to avoid a confrontation. Yeah. So he's trying to do it in a way not to cause drama.

Yes. And eight times out of ten, she just doesn't hear it. And so it creates a bad situation. So I have guys come to me, well, Dr. Rachel, what should I do? I'm like, well, I can't tell you to leave somebody. But does this also then happen? Because for that, for that man who says that, he may not have any issues in the bed,

but now it becomes a psychological thing. Sure. And so now, when it does happen, he may not be able to perform because, hell, it's been three weeks. That's right. Three months. Three years.

Right. You're right. You're absolutely right. There's so many layers to it. And, you know, so back up. I don't want to be so hard on the ladies because, you know, gentlemen, you know, started out going on dates, doing a little romance, and maybe have stopped or fallen off a little bit. But what I will say is that when you make that commitment to somebody that this is for a lifetime, that you really do have to listen to them when they come to you and say, listen, I need sex because they're not saying

I need sex because, you know, I'm just a freak. They're saying I need sex because I need to feel attractive. I need to feel intimacy. I need to feel like you care about me and you find me attractive because if not, then it reflects on how I see myself and how I have to perform when I go into corporate America or go into the job and everybody's treating me like shit there, you know?

You said something that cracked me up. I saw one of your videos, it was on YouTube and Instagram, and I had a laugh, I think I text you on it. And you said, listen, your body parts as a man or a woman, they are the same if you don't use your arm. Your arm will atrophy. Your arm will stop working if you don't use your arm. You said, men and women, same thing for your sexual organs.

The comments were hilarious because folk will, people were shocked by that because they never ever put those two together. Yeah. No, it's true. And so, you know, that old saying, if you don't use it, you will lose it, it's really the same.

So there has to be blood flow and there has to be engorgement in both female genitalia and male genitalia. Okay, so now you're getting to the science. Yes. Now you're getting to the science of it. Yes. And that's the other thing.

Unlike, there's a bunch of people out there who are doing videos and stuff, but your deal is, you're not trying to be, this ain't no voyeuristic stuff. You're trying to walk people through the science of the human body. That's right. This is what arouses a woman. Yes. of the human body. That's right. This is what arouses a woman. This is what arouses a man. And these are the things that actually can inhibit that from happening.

That's when you talk about high cholesterol and things along those lines. Yes, yes, yes. Because the same blood vessels that have to go to our genitalia actually go to our heart, go to our kidneys,

go to our eyes. So if you're in a health-comprom compromised situation, it makes sense then that you start to lose your erection. You start to, as women, you start to not get as lubricated. You start to not feel or want sex. So sex, when your sex drive kind of plummets or things aren't going well down there, it is a sign that something else needs to be looked at. So when we think about engorgement and blood flow to these areas, as a gentleman, you know, when you're in your prime, you go to sleep, you know, at night,

your erection's exercising itself. It's having nocturnal erections, four or five a night, right? And then as you start to age, what happens to those blood vessels is the blood vessels start to get diseased. And that's basic. Every 10 years, our blood vessels start to work a little less like they should, create less nitric oxide. And so at night, what happens is you start to get less of those nighttime erections. And so what happens is because the penile tissue isn't getting all that blood flow, it actually starts to get what we call fibrosis. It actually starts to stiffen up. So the key in exercising your genitalia is that if you exercise, even through self-play with women or self-play with gentlemen, what you're actually doing is you're

encouraging blood flow to some area that you're just sitting on all damn day. So if it's not being used, it's not getting blood flow. And so your deal is, no, it actually needs to get blood flow and so your deal is no it actually needs to get blood flow i mean the reason the reason the reason i look i play golf yes and and when i warm up playing golf i have a uh i have one of the high price massagers and also have uh stretch bands yes and um when uh so i was warming up uh and guys like man what are you doing i one, I'm getting blood flow to my shoulders. So I said, I can't, in order for me to have proper rotation playing golf, I said, I need to get blood flow to my shoulders when I'm stretching my hip flexors.

I'm trying to get blood flow there, and I'm actually warming the areas up, so then what happens is, now I'm loose, and so now I'm not stiff when I'm playing. And they were like, okay. And I said, that's what you do when you warm up. So that's literally what you're saying is, look, if the absence of blood flow,

you're going to have trouble playing golf, you're going to have trouble in the bedroom. That's right, that's right. And then what happens, too, is we don't understand the aging process. We don't... You know, when you're a kid, you know, someone can just brush up against you, and as a gentleman, you get one, right?

And-and-and in ladies, you know, you can be dancing with someone and just a little pressure down there. You're like, ah, ah, ah. But as time goes by for everybody, it just takes a little more. So oftentimes, too, guys will think they have an erection issue,

and really what they have is you guys are together, and you used to be just wham, bam, good night. Now we need a little bit more foreplay, and you need both people involved. So when you go outside to start your car engine, it take a little longer to warm your car engine up. It does. It does. But when it's a new car, crank, all right, you can take off.

That's right. That's right. That's right. And so the goal then is to prevent people from needing to get a new car every time they want to get turned on. Instead, we want to make it so that they can get turned on with their same old car. You know? So there was something, and this is so hilarious. So after seeing your video, every time I look at mouthwash on my counter, Oh yes.

I think of you every time. Oh good. I was, it was a trip. I had never heard somebody say, I'd never heard somebody say, don't use mouthwash because it impacts nitric oxide. Explain that. So, perfect.

I'm so glad you brought this up. So, we have two ways we produce nitric oxide. Now, nitric oxide is what we need to expand blood vessels. Listen, I can take someone off of mouthwash and actually lower their blood pressure. So, let me talk to you about how important nitric oxide is. So, nitric oxide is something that's created in our blood vessels that helps us relax the blood vessels so blood flow can flow through it right. When blood vessels are tight like that blood pressure is up and blood flow is down. So what happens with mouthwash, mouthwash wipes out one of our body's ways of producing nitric oxide because if you

notice as I said as we age our ability of producing nitric oxide. Because if you notice, as I said, as we age, our ability to produce nitric oxide. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Business

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and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. there to convert those nitrates in our diet to nitrates. Then we swallow it. So the bacteria in our mouth. Is a super important part of it. So if you have. So people are thinking, I'm just swiveling mouthwash and I want fresh breath. Yes! But you're saying you're killing the bacteria. You are killing the bacteria.

And that bacteria in your mouth, now you ain't saying don't brush your teeth. Right. But what you're saying is, whatever the ingredients in mouthwash, that's killing the bacteria in your mouth. now you ain't saying don't brush your teeth. Right. But what you're saying is that whatever the ingredients in mouthwash, that's killing the bacteria in your mouth. On the back of the tongue. Which now is impacting the nitric oxide that's in your body,

which can impact your sexual health. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. So there's a few things that we as a people do that's wiping out nitric oxide, and mouthwash is one of them because the mouthwash sits in the back of the mouth, kills off that bacteria that is 100% necessary to convert the nitrate in our diet to nitrites to then go down and create more nitric oxide. And the cool thing about that pathway of making

nitric oxide is that we can control it. You can put more nitrates in your diet. You can eat more spinach. You can eat more arugula. You can eat more celery. Or you can take a nitrate-rich supplement. But all of that, we do need that bacteria in order to convert the diet into nitric oxide. So you said there are nitric oxide supplements. We'll get to that in a second. But how do we create, how do we increase our nitric oxide with food, with different foods, and what foods does that? Sure. So we got to be careful because a lot of the foods that will increase nitric oxide, for those people who have arthritis or kidney disease, they have something called oxalates in them. So that spinach, spinach is great. It's full of nitrates. It's full of magnesium, all the stuff

we need to make healthy blood vessels. But the only thing about spinach is that it is high in oxalate something like arugula something like celery Those are fantastic because they're nitrate rich and they don't have those oxalates in them that are going to interfere Beets beets are really great for introducing nitrates into our diet Okay So so for instance, I've written the smoothie recipe book, E-Function Smoothie Recipe Books, and everybody's like, well, wait a minute. How are you curing hypertension?

How are you helping everybody with their erections just with smoothies? Right. Well, because the smoothies are rich with nitrate-rich ingredients and magnesium. So magnesium and nitrate. You have two books, right? You have two?

Yeah. All right, so let me see this. All right, so first of all, so first, let's do this here. Before I talk about the smoothies, okay, so you watch all of these commercials. Yes. And they've got his, they got Cialis, Viagra.

And you like go crazy with all of these pills because you say, look, that's only going to help you for a little bit, then it's actually going to cause you problems because you've got side effects, things along those lines. And all the commercials, they talk about ED, erectile dysfunction. And when we were talking,

you said you purposely don't want to use that phrase because when men hear it, it's a negative connotation. So you say you use E-function. Exactly. Erectile function, not erectile dysfunction. I don't talk about ED because it's not a dysfunction. This is a natural process. You're going to have great days with the erection. Some days you're not going to have really great days.

But what we want to do is increase blood flow, heal blood vessels, support your prostate so that you can do what your body naturally does. And so those commercials drive me bananas because I'll tell you, the main space, reason I got into this natural space with erectile health is because in our clinic in Gary, Indiana, my mom and I, we used to hand out Viagra and Cialis. We would keep drawers full of it, closets.

Some people watching right now is like, I remember that Dr. Rachel used to always give me the samples. And so I'm thinking, I'm helping brothers out, you know, they don't have to pay for this stuff. But those same guys that we were, you know, coming every week, getting the samples, you know, they would come in. They were having strokes.

You know, we went from the Cadillac, headed out to Vegas to stroke. I'm in a wheelchair. And I'm telling you, this was happening time and time again. And so my mom and I sat down one day. I was like, gee, have you noticed that a lot of our patients, the guys that, you know, are just so sharp and clean, you know, like my favorite guys, they're having these strokes. She's like, yeah. She's like, I think it's that medication. You know how moms are, I think it's that medication. And so, behind diseased blood vessels to the erection,

are diseased blood vessels to the heart, to the kidneys, and to everything else. So I'm not saying that the medication is causing that, because that could get me arrested and targeted and all other things, but I am saying that we do not need to rely on those medications. What you have to do is fix the root cause.

Right. They have you log in, you see a doctor, and 15 minutes later they're shipping you some of that stuff. It's chewable. It's in honey. It's this, it's that. It's killing us.

And we need to get off of it. And so my thing is I want to teach guys how to fix the problem, support the prostate, fix the problem so that you don't have to rely on those things. All right, y'all. So I'm about to, again, I'm just letting y'all know right now. So if y'all got some kids in the room, y'all don't want the kids to hear some of this stuff. Y'all just might want to go ahead and tell the kids, I need y'all to leave the room right now. So in your smoothies, in your e-function smoothie recipes, we've got the morning wood smoothie, okay?

Those ingredients are a quarter cup blueberries, fresh, half, one to two cups of kale, collard greens, or spinach, chopped and frozen, a quarter cup fresh beets, chopped, a half a cup of ice, one cup of almond milk or coconut water fresh squeezed orange juice If non-diabetic four to six macadamia nuts a quarter of a lemon squeeze So then we go to the black of the berry stiffness smooth Well, and let me just say too that all the ingredients in the smoothie recipes are clinically proven ingredients that help with support erectile function

And what you're putting all together. together in different combinations and different smoothies. That's correct. And people ask me all the time, Doc, why are there no strawberries in there? Well, we don't see any clinical evidence that strawberries support erectile health. Really? So I see in here blueberries, raspberries, blackberries. Okay. So you've got the Glory smoothie.

Yes, the Glory. All right. We. Yes. So you got the Glory smoothie. Yes, the Glory. All right. We've got the Optimizer Libido Smoothie. That's right, that's right. All right, the Ginger Vitality Smoothie. Yes. Diabetic friendly. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

All right. We have the Stand Up Tall Smoothie. That's right, that's right. All right, here. This is probably the most popular one in the book because I see it was bookmarked here. It was the page, it was bookmarked. This is called the dick up smoothie.

The dick up smoothie, listen. The dick up smoothie is the most popular. So that's two cups watermelon chopped and seed removed. If allergic, use peeled and sliced cucumber instead. Half of a beet scrubbed and chopped. A half frozen and seed removed. If allergic, use peeled and sliced cucumber instead. Half of a beet scrubbed and chopped. A half frozen and sliced banana. Half cup ice, four to eight basil leaves. A quarter cup raspberries, half of a lemon.

One teaspoon ground organic chia seeds. If substituting cucumber for watermelon, add one or two teaspoons of honey. Okay. Yes. Why is this one the most popular one? Well, you know, it's probably the most popular one because I put it on YouTube and people

have been using it. You did a whole video. You caught a video. Yes, and they write their testimonials on there and they're like, damn, Doc, first day, you know. So, honestly, that one is so popular because it really... And you have people who literally have posted comments saying, yo... We have

thousands, thousands of testimonials around the world on how the smoothies have changed their erectile health. Now, you're saying here, when are you supposed to do the smoothie? Once a day? Twice a day? You are actually supposed to use it as your... When you're breaking your fast

in the morning, you're supposed to use it as your morning meal replacement. So, let's say if you're breaking your fast in the morning, you're supposed to use it as your morning meal replacement. So let's say if you're doing a protein shake or a green smoothie, what you're saying is when you get up, make this your first meal. Yes. And I tell my guys, really, you know,

I'm a fan of intermittent fasting. That's another conversation for another day. And so to push that first meal out as late as possible and to start the meal with one of the smoothie recipes. All right, but do the smoothies only once a day or twice a day? Yeah, they do them once a day, once a day. So you'll make one, and actually for some gentlemen it lasts for two meals. It might be the breakfast and the lunch.

Because actually with these ingredients, it fills up about 24, about 24 or 28 ounces. It does. So it ends up kind of being two servings. So I try to tell y'all, so I was like, all right doc, you tripping, all right, so okay. So she sent me the book and I'm cracking up laughing at the smoothies y'all, because you have the Green God smoothie, the

Stiffening Stamina smoothie, the Daily Boost smoothie, the Stimulating Power smoothie, we've got the Mandingo smoothie. And see, these are perfect for you because you don't like vegetables. The Power to Please smoothie, the

Nitrate Knockout smoothie. That one's super full of nitrates. The Ever Ready smoothie. Yes. And then we have the Stain Power smoothie. That's right. And you got all the citations here. Yeah. And so you

spent this time literally looking at all the different combinations and say, okay, here's how we put together this right smoothie. And trying them. So, you know, when you're practicing out in Los Angeles, you know it's a different environment. You know, smoothies and diets and this and that. And the smoothies do work.

I'm just letting y'all know. I had to explain to Doc. She's like, this is one serving. I was like, Doc, this is not one serving. I'm like, this is a big ass serving. I'm like, this is like 28 ounces. I said, Doc, that's about three damn servings. But go ahead. like, this is a big-ass serving. I'm like, this is like 28 ounces. I said, Doc, that's about three damn servings. But go ahead. Well, you're a small eater.

No, but I was like, big-ass, blend it, blend it all together. I'm like, hold up. Tenants, 12-ounce cup, 12-ounce cup. I'm like, Doc, this ain't one damn smoothie. The best are the guys who are sharing it with their wives, and, you know, they're like, we both feel much better. All right, so men and women can do these smoothies. Oh, for sure, for sure.

Because remember, the genitalia and the science in all of our bodies is pretty much the same. Just women have more estrogen, guys have more testosterone, what we're all supposed to, and that's the main difference. But actually, embryologically, you know, everything starts out, everybody starts out with the same genitalia. What happens in the womb is the mom gets more testosterone going, and the genitalia

becomes a boy's genitalia. But none of your titles are targeting women, though. No, no, no. You don't have, you know... Women don't want their stuff to work the same way guys do. You don't have the amazing vajayjay smoothie. It's coming, though.

It's coming. It's coming. So you did two books of smoothies? Yes. No, no. That's the original one. That's the original? That's volume two, actually.

Because what I did in volume two is I talk about the science behind why it works and why the ingredients are special. Because honestly, you know, you get to the point where you're like okay i'm smoothied out doc i just want to know what i'm supposed to eat when i go out or what should i buy at the grocery store so it's really kind of too designed to train you into what you should be eating to keep your erections healthy and the best part about it is you keep your erection healthy the rest of you is healthy and again for the people like yeah like i said who like me who hate vegetables yes so this is is a way I remember JJ Smith when she did her green smoothie books came on She's like roll this I said baby. This is the only way I'm gonna eat all them vegetables I can't stand kale spinach all this sort of stuff

I said but fine throw throw some pineapple and something else in that bad boy find the raspberries and the beet I said if I will go ahead and mix it up. I said, but I can't eat them then when Travesti was like that. That's the best way. So we were talking about nitric oxide, and then you were talking about how you do it naturally, but you also created your own line of products that's a part of your, like, what's your institute?

What's the actual name of it? So the Dr. Rachel Institute, and really, so the Dr. Rachel Institute kind of started in the space of training sexperts and sexologists, and now we Institute kind of started in the space of training sexperts and sexologists. And now we've kind of evolved into the space of, you know, educating people on sexual health, providing sexual health

programs for gentlemen particularly so that we can look at the root cause, help you come with a program and a strategy to kind of fix the root cause to get your erectile health back. And for brothers in general, you know, like I said, I was on the airplane the other day coming out,

yesterday coming out here, and I look and I see brothers, you know, it's an hour and 15-minute flight, and three guys gets up, you know, these are gentlemen over the age of 45, three of them got up, rushing back to the bathroom. And it hurts, because I know that's their prostate. I know it needs to be, you know, addressed. And so, you know, of course, I can't be like, hey, I'm Dr. Rachel, and I think you have prostate issues.

But I want to get the information out there, you know. It hurts to see. So I actually wrote The Prostate Revolution, which I think that all men need to read because it really talks about how the prostate is central. The prostate revolution, the underground guide to flow, strong curb the urge to go and sleep through the night. Yeah. Okay? Because, see, the prostate, and we don't talk about this either, the prostate sits at the

base of the erection. Right. So, as your prostate starts to grow and enlarge, it's stealing blood flow from your erection. And so, it becomes one of the reasons why the erection after 45 starts to be like, well, what's happening? Well, yeah, we got blood flow, but we got the prostate enlarged. And so prostate symptoms are getting up in the middle of the night a bunch of times.

So if you're getting up in the middle of the night, that's when testosterone is supposed to be produced. You're not sleeping through the night. You're not healing. Your body isn't doing what it needs to do because you got to get up and pee a couple times. So that's a problem. Rush into the bathroom. So what's normal?

If you, what, is it once in the middle of the night? Technically, ideally, you should not wake up in the middle of the night to have to go pee. Because, listen, God wants you to sleep all the way through those REM cycles because during the deepest state of REM, that's when your testosterone is being produced. So if you have to get up right before you get there,

then you break the cycle. Now, does that also mean, you know, watching how late we eat, how late we drink as well? So you're not, you know, knocking out, you know, a 16, 18 ounce bottle of water. Uh, and you're going to bed in about 30 minutes. Well, here's the thing. I think what we do is we dehydrate ourselves because we are not drinking water around trying to keep the, trying to try not to rush, you know, so you'll see guys, they, they map out where the bathroom is. They're not drinking enough water during the day because they don't

Want to have to keep running so at five they stop drinking water and really all you're doing is dehydrating Self because you're trying to support that life so now it's about midnight 1 12 30 you thirst is all get out Yeah, and then you drink that 16.9 ounce bottle of water you gonna get up use the bathroom. That's right That's right. That's right right and and so technically you really shouldn't have to get up until like five or six when it's time to get up right so you know my goal is I want you to get up when it's time when you want to go right when you want when it's time to go like let's get it on instead of because you have to go got it and so really that's that's the impetus behind the prostate plus formula okay which is a formula designed to support healthy prostate flow.

And it's different from a lot of supplements designed for prostate health because it also focuses on bladder health. It has a component called Urox in it, which is a botanical blend that's designed to kind of help take the inflammation and the sting out of the bladder. Because what happens is as that prostate is growing, it's pushing on the urethra and it's making pee sit in the bladder, which is why you have to keep rushing so much. And so what happens then is as that urine sits in the bladder, if you can imagine if you've ever, you know, when you're a kid, you pee on yourself and all of a sudden your leg is stinging, everything's stinging.

So if pee sits too long in the bladder, the bladder actually starts to get a tonic or weak and inflamed, and so that is what propels you to have to keep rushing to the bathroom. I mean, guys are putting their uncles, their dads on it and writing me letters like, Doc, thank you so much for making this.

And honestly, with supplements, it is against the law for me to have a supplement that works better than a medication It's just you're just not supposed to do it They'll shut you crazy the FDA does not want you to be on vitamins nothing like that You have to be on a medication So I have to be very careful about what I say and you know, I've got all these testimonials and they're like Let's put this out there. Dr. Rachel. Let's put this on social media I'm like do not put that on there because I do not want to target on my head.

I've been there. So yeah. So it's, it's been an amazing journey because watching my dad with the prostate thing, prostate thing is, has become my thing. And so what I do is anyone who buys the supplement from me, you know, they get the prostate revolution free. All they have to do is ask for it. So you got the prostate supplement. Yeah. And then if we get the prostate supplement, your prostate supplement, then you have the nitric oxide. Yes. You have that. Sure, sure. So now the nitric oxide that I recommend is not formulated by me, but we have nitric oxide test strips because the thing is, you use a test strip to test your saliva

to kind of see where your nitrate levels are. So on those strips there, you have light pink to almost white, which means you ain't got much nitric oxide in your body. Your reserves aren't there. And then you have, like, it's the color of your jacket. Yes, it lights up there.

You got strong nitric oxide. Absolutely. And technically, after you eat a nitrate-rich meal or you drink a smoothie recipe, you should be able to test and be like, oh, I'm depleted. And then after your meal that's nitrate-rich, you should be able to test and be like, okay, my nitrate levels are up. I'm making more nitric oxide. I think you said you typically 90 days or so

in taking the nitric oxide pills. Because you're like, look, it ain't like, your point is this ain't like you're popping Viagra. It ain't like, oh, let me pop in two. I'm getting into bed. No, this is a regimen that you're building up. No, that's right. And then keep in mind,

there's a lot of things that we're doing on a daily basis that's depleting nitric oxide. The number one over-the-counter medication that people take every day, got a little heartburn, I'm going to take some Prilosec, right? Protonix, what have you. That depletes nitric oxide. So there's so many medications, blood pressure medications that are actually depleting our levels of nitric oxide that once I got into the space where I started researching nitric oxide, I'm like, damn, our diuretics, you know, all of these things that traditionally are the first line things that we put our people on are depleting nitric oxide.

So if you don't support your nitric oxide, then what happens is our blood vessels calcify. They become hardened. They're not delivering blood flow the way that they need to. And it's a whole thing. So, even Aleve, Ibuprofen, all of that actually depletes nitric oxide.

So, we have to be very mindful about the extra things that are happening when we take stuff that we just think is just one of the... What are the other two books? Oh, the other one. From No Sex to Great Sex in Seven Days or Less. This is for my sexless couples who've just kind of gotten into the space of, we don't really have it much, and now that we haven't had it in a while,

I don't even know where to start. So this is for them. And this one's for our singles. Sexpert Secrets Playbook, Become a Sex Champ Overnight. Become a Sex Champ Overnight. Yes. All right. Okay, so again, so then you do a video and you're talking about

prostate massaging. Yes. And so I'm seeing your video and then you were explaining it. So then you start talking, this is where I really, I was like, I know you probably. And he turned off. I'm like, you know you freak some dudes out. They were like, what the hell? Because then you start talking, and this is where I really, I was like, I know you probably. And he turned off. I'm like, you know, you freak some dudes out. They were like, what the hell?

Because then you start talking about prostate massaging tools. And so I'm sure you got guys who are thinking, uh-uh, well, you don't come near me with that. Sure. Okay, so explain the science behind massaging the prostate and the role that it plays in sex. Sure. So I want you to think about this too. Like when your back hurts, you got a knot in your back, you're just like, damn, babe, can you come massage this for me?

Can you just get this knot out? That's why I get that massage. It stays in my backpack. I travel. So when I got, if I'm on a flight from east to west, I'm not sitting on it five hours. I'm like, no, we're going to massage the calves, thighs, all over.

It is, yeah. So it doesn't tighten up. I'm like, no, we're going to massage the calves, thighs, all over. It is, yeah. So it doesn't tighten up. And in ancient Chinese cultures, prostate massage was really just part of it. As a matter of fact, physicians back in the day, that used to be what we would do. If a person came in, this was before my time, but if a guy came in and it was clear he had some prostate issues, the physician would actually go in and massage the prostate. And because the prostate is kind of a spongy material.

So you've got ejaculate that goes through it. You've got toxins that go through it. And so the concept behind prostate massage is that this stuff is sitting there, and it just sits there and bogs down the prostate. So one of the first times I tried prostate massage on a gentleman. So I'm reading these ancient Chinese texts and talking

to some colleagues, and they're like, yeah, you know, prostate massage, you know, helps me keep people off medication. I'm like, wait, wait, what? So I start experimenting with it, and so I have a patient who comes in. A lot of times, the big economic forces we hear

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on Apple Podcasts. He had ED, he had an enlarged prostate, and so I'd gotten a prostate machine from China, right? Because it's a big thing there. They've got all types of devices, the doctors just use them, they actually have clinics, you can go in and get one.

And so I get this device and I'm like, you know, today we're gonna try prostate massage, I tell them the science behind it. And was he like? He was, but he wasn't open to it. This was California. First of all, you oughta see it. He got ED. He got a large prostate.

He had multiple issues. He was like, all right, let's go. Hey, hey, hey, doc, work your magic. Do something. All right, cool. I trust you. Definitely. You know, he had a numbness.

He couldn't feel anything. I was like, listen, we can't get it. Oh, hell yeah. He was like, doc, let it rip. Listen, the next day, he sends me a text message. He's like, doc, I haven't felt like this in years. And I say, god darn it. We're onto something with this. And with the science behind prostate massages,

because if you, okay, so most guys, the brothers, do the external massage, right? So they don't want to actually go in and massage the prostate from inside. But where the prostate sits, posterior to it is the anus, the rectum, right? And so there's such a thin membrane between the prostate and where stool is stored. And we actually kind of think that because stool sits right behind the prostate, some of that is going through that thin membrane and actually getting to the prostate.

That might be why we have so much prostate cancer, prostate inflammation. So that becomes the number one way for you to get behind the prostate. But keep this in mind, the prostate, lateral on both sides of the prostate, we got the nerves that are going directly to the erection. So we got blood flow that has to go through

and past the prostate. So if the prostate is enlarged and boggy, it is pressing on the nerves and the blood vessels that are actually supposed to be delivering nutrients and supply to our erection. So it makes sense that when your prostate starts to get enlarged like that, it's an issue. So when you're doing a prostate massage, whether it's a perineal massage, you can actually take a tennis ball, sit on a tennis ball while you're at your desk on a hard chair, not a soft chair like this, and just really kind of rotate back and forth on it. You're actually massaging the perineum. And in essence, you're actually massaging the prostate too. So there's ways to do the prostate externally.

You can do the prostate massage, you can do the prostate massage through your abdomen. You're just massaging the bladder and if the prostate sits beneath the bladder, so you're getting it that way, you can do it internally. But my thing is this, your prostate is the air traffic control for erectile health. And your prostate sits there and collects so much throughout the years that what a prostate massage is actually doing is it's encouraging drainage and lymph flow through it so it actually has a you know we we have so many testimonials from guys who are just like you know they didn't necessarily buy a massager for me they tried it at home and they're like, Doctor, I, for the first time,

I'm exploding like I used to. Or I can actually get an erection again. So it actually helps both of those things because if you don't realize that you have a pathway that goes through your prostate, that's your urethra. So urine has to travel through the prostate. But also what you have a pathway of are called ejaculatory ducts. So in order to have that explosion at the end, you know, when you're a kid, you go, and it shoots everywhere. You know, as you start to age, it might sludge or something, sometimes none comes out. So what happens too

is that that duct work, like the pathways, actually as that prostate grows, it starts to collapse on them. So what you're actually doing when you're doing a prostate massage or you're supporting your prostate in a variety of ways is you're actually kind of massaging it, almost like getting the gunk through the years that's been caught there. Wow. You've seen it. It's on the sheets. You can't get it off, you know. So that same stuff is gunking up the prostate ducts so yeah so it's a it's a it's a whole so this so this is a prostate massage yeah

so this was one of our external ones and so what you're actually doing is you're actually putting it on that area halfway between where your um where your your your butthole is and where the testicles in that's typically where your prostate lies. So you're basically kind of turning it on and you're sitting on it. Now that vibrates. This one vibrates. Gotcha. Yes.

And the cool thing about this, you know, and so this, I call the external prostate. So this is not a spoon. Yeah, this is. This is not a spoon. Just letting y'all know, that's not a spoon. That's not a vibrator. That's not, that's a a vibrator, that's not... That is a prostate massager.

Massager. And, well, the cool thing about the external ones is because you're not putting it in... inside of you... Right. ...it actually can double as a sex toy, you know, because you keep it clean and nice, you know, you can actually use this because when you're in the throes of passion, as time goes by, listen, having a helping hand, having a helping hand,

having a way to kind of help both parties out is great because vibration is one of the number one ways. So, like, for instance, if we have a gentleman who is a paraplegic or is paralyzed, everyone's wondering, well, how does that person actually get someone pregnant? Well, there's a reflex there. And what we actually do, for instance,

if he's trying to extract some semen, we'll actually use vibration at the corona or the head of the penis to kind of get things going in that direction. We actually, as a form for guys who are having trouble getting erections, you can actually use vibration at the head to... You just take the head and you kind of mash it on there

to actually stimulate and bring an erection forth. This is really helpful for guys who don't want to do Viagra but are having a really hard time getting one. They can actually use vibration. They actually, you know, they make devices, they make sleeves that you can actually put on the corona and send the vibration frequency. It helps stimulate the nerves,

because as time goes by, in both men and women, there's a decrease in sensitivity. And so sometimes what you need is a rejuvenation of the nerves. I'd say a lot of times, particularly with our diabetics and pre-diabetics, is that there's nerve damage down there. And so one of the things that the prostate massage does is kind of helps rejuvenate and regenerate nerve tissue too so all right so this

is gonna be final you didn't bring it with you this is gonna be the final one and and the reason so I'm seeing your bit you're talking about this here and I'm cracking up laughing because anybody who watched the Austin Powers movies when you've seen so you've seen these movies where people have made fun of penis pumps. Yes. And so you see all the jokes. And so I'm sitting here watching, and you're like,

no, I got my own line coming out. You walk in, you're explaining this, and again, and I keep telling y'all, listen, I've been talking to Doc for years. And how to do media stuff, whatever. And I literally said, Doc. Like, please, please don't. This really worked.

Because again, because what you see in popular culture, you see the jokes being made. And you were like, no, this actually works. Yes. So you hear people, you see this actually works. Yes. Okay. So explain. So you hear people, you see people talking about penis pumps. Okay. Yes. You say this works.

Oh, definitely. How? Definitely. And I think people have the idea that a penis pump is for, you know, for you pump it up right before and then go have sex, right? But actually, what I speak about is using the pump as a regenerative strategy for the erectile tissue. Because remember, when you go to bed at night, your body

is supposed to get about five erections. And once those stop, the tissue starts to atrophy, starts to calcify, and you can't get those hard erections anymore. And you also, because of the men that you've been treating, so the men who've had prostate, who's had prostate cancer, who come from that, your deal is, you're basically,

I mean, listening to you talk about the prostate stimulating, we talk about, you're really, for lack of a better phrase, this is sex training. Yeah. This is like if you're working out. For sure. And so when you're dealing with these guys, you're basically trying to get them back to where they were

and so all of these tools are frankly tools to help them rebuild their sexual body, rebuild their organs to be able to go back to life they sort of used to have. Sure, and a lot of guys end up better than they were before. And even young guys are having trouble with ED right now. And then the problem happens is that if you're not getting those erections, if your erections don't get the exercise,

now it's weak, and now you have to rebuild it. So if you're starting out and you're 30. You call it shrinkage. Oh yes. You said those things happen because, again, if you have to rebuild it so if you're starting out you're 30 you call it shrinkage oh yeah those things happen yes because again if you don't use it yes so when so so so when you with your clients how are you coaching them when it when it comes to the pump because you're and then also even that what are you talking about here two three times a day once a day how many times a week because what you what you're laying out between this and supplements, you're laying out a regimen. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm laying out a regimen.

It's for people who really are invested in the process, who really want to get better, who really want to look up a year from now and be like, damn, I mean, I'm in better shape now than I was before. And really, honestly, guys at home, if you go out and get a pump, you know,

and really start pumping, and for me, you know, we have different protocols depending on what's happening. Particularly guys who have sickle cell shouldn't pump, gentlemen who have any bleeding disorder shouldn't pump, and really if you have a question, you know, ask your doctor. Doctors usually don't care if you pump,

they just wanna give you some Viagra, right? Right. And your deal is I'm trying for you not to be on these medications. Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Because they have side effects. Yeah, they do have side effects. They have, you know, you can go permanently blind. You can have hearing issues. You can have, you know, I get guys all the time, Doc, I have this really bad reflux every time I'm eating. Well, yeah, it's that Cialis you're taking every day. You know, so they do carry side effects.

So, honestly, when it comes to the pump, the pump is about the exercise regimen that comes from it. And, honestly, it can help reverse the shrinkage, you know? And I don't care if you're buying a $30 pump off Amazon or if you're getting a $120 pump or a $200 pump. They all really have scientific data that starts in the space of rehabilitation. They started using pumps on guys who had their prostate removed. And what they found is that if you pump immediately after the prostate is removed,

you know, of course, after about a week or two of healing, what they do is you don't lose the size and you won't lose your erectile function as often if you have a gentleman who's pumping afterwards. And my thing is a lot of these doctors send guys home with the pump, but they don't tell them that. They don't make it easy to use. It becomes this thing. You just throw it in the back of your closet. So any guy who has any erectile issues

or even really wants to just plump up, I mean, a pump is the best thing for it. You have folks who they come with, they make jokes, they make fun, oh my God. And they go through all of this. And I'm sure when you're on your YouTube channel, when you're doing your videos and your Instagram posts, you're seeing that.

But you also are seeing real-life individuals who are hitting you up saying, Doc, you damn near saved my life. Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. And those emails and those messages come in by the droves every day, and it helps keep me going. Because, like, for instance, my friend Lee Daniels, he saw, he's like, Doc, for instance, my friend Lee Daniels, he saw.

He's like, Doc, why you got to talk about this stuff? Why you got to do it like that? There's so many other ways to do it. And I've always taken the lighter approach to things. I like cartoons. I like to make it fun. And I just really want to reach the people. Well, first, you're not joking.

But one, you're not joking. But one, you're not joking. Yeah. This ain't a joke. It's not a joke. Like, when you're sitting there, you're like, listen, I'm walking you through. I'm giving you the information because, frankly, look, I can sit here and see comments, you know, in the chat room and folks are making jokes, whatever. whatever, but you're actually hearing from men who are scared to death, who are freaking out, and they are screaming for help. So this is, I mean, folk can crack jokes all they want to,

but this is real for a whole lot of people who have completely lost sexual drive, energy, and they don't know what to do. For sure. I tell women all the time, I was like, imagine if you look in the mirror one day and all your hair had fallen out. You know, because we're really focused on our hair.

You know, our hair is our thing. I was like, that's how your guy feels when he wakes up and can't see his erection. I was like, so this is a whole thing. And what I find, too, is in our community, there's a lot, the guys will hide the treatment that they're going through because she just doesn't want to have anything to do with them.

And then meanwhile, I'll get these other guys from other communities like, oh, yeah, my wife's so supportive. She went out and bought me this today. And then in our community, someone's hiding in the closet doing it. Or she told me she wants nothing to do with it. And that hurts. I just wish we would support each other more and listen to each other and not necessarily put yourself in it. It's not about you. It's about him. And so I tell guys all the time, well, you know, when you're working on this part

of your body, this is for you. Don't worry about her. This is for you. You get this sorted out and then you figure out what's going to happen with y'all because the future's not looking bright there. It is interesting. I think it goes to what has always been the case. This fear in our

community of not sharing information. Oh, we don't discuss those things. And folk have been walking around multi-generations having these issues. Not even we talking about, you know, not even talking about e-function, but just even when we don't talk about if we had breast cancer in our family. I remember talking to Deon Sanders when he had the surgery and then his mama told him, oh yeah, your uncle had blood clots.

He was like, why in the hell nobody said anything? He's like, I got a family history of blood clots. And so it's so many things that we don't talk about. And then there are problems. And so it's just, oh, don't say nothing. Yeah, but you got people who are 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 years living with this, dying and passing away. And they never actually

experience a great sex life or just a better life all those years they suffered silently. That's right. That's right. And it's 100% unnecessary. So if nothing else, I make videos and I make it a come on

come all type of conversation because I want you to be able to have these conversations with your son, with your dad, with your uncle, with your wife, with your sister, so that we can kind of take an issue that is being swept under the rug and ignored and bring it out into the forefront. Because just like, you know, women suffer from fibroids

and that's an assault on our sexuality, the prostate issue that's permeating through the male community is interfering with our sexuality too. And if you, you know, I think at the end of the day, when we start and realize, you know, like people don't want us here, you know, they don't like the most hated people in the world are black people. right? So when you think about it like that and you realize that there's an assault on sexual health in the community, just that alone should be a reason for you to start having these conversations with your kids, with your family, so that we can put plans in place to make sure that it doesn't happen to us. And the prostate revolution, I mean, it goes into why we're having so many issues with our prostate,

what you can do naturally to kind of heal. Because I'm a functional medicine provider now, because Western medicine wasn't healing anybody. So now I focus on getting to the root cause, looking at the cellular level, and really trying to heal from within instead of just throwing a bunch of pills your way. So, yeah. Where do folks go to get more info?

Ah, head over to drrachelinstitute.com. Go over to my YouTube channel. D-R-R-A... Gotta spell it. D-R-R-A-C-H-A-E-L... There you go. ...institute.com. Follow me on YouTube,

Dr. Rachel, D-R-R-A-C-H-A-E-L. I'm trying to catch up with you, with all these followers. Man, you guys should see the studio. Oh, wow. And we're a few blocks from the White House. Yep, just two blocks. Just two blocks.

Two blocks away. So thanks for having me. This has been awesome. I'm glad we finally had this conversation. And again, look, everything for us is about information. And what drives me crazy is that a lot of this stuff we're not discussing in our community. And if it is being discussed, it's not being discussed

by people who look like us. That's right. So being able for us to say, no, there are black folks who are in this space who are trying to help others, who are trying to prove their lives. So we're gonna have fitness folks on, we're gonna have dieticians on, we're gonna have psychologists and folks on. We're going to have dieticians on. We're going to have psychologists and folks on.

So we talk about mind, body, spirit. That's right. This is a part of mind, body, spirit. For sure. Yeah, absolutely. Doc, appreciate it. All right, it's a pleasure. All right, folks, that is it for us.

We appreciate all of you who have joined us for today. Don't forget, go to drrachelinstitute.com. That's R-A-C-H-A-E-L, D. That's R-A-C-H-A-E-L, D-R-R-A-C-H-A-E-L, institute.com for more information. And so again, she got books, she got supplements, she got prostate massagers,

she got penis pump, Doc got all kind of stuff. And I know she got some new products. I know you got something new coming up. Oh, well, you know, if you roll in as checkout, and you get 15%. All right, so if y'all go to her institute, you type in R- rolling as checkout and you get 15%, all right,

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And I can't wait to hear some of y'all seeing her email saying, I saw you on rolling show. Ooh, Lord, my stuff is really working right now. Cause I see some of y'all chat. Y'all talking bunch of trash, but I know some of y'all going to be sitting in her going hit hitting her website.

You know, get some information so don't don't sit and act like y'all not going to do that so we see what's going on. Alright folks, that is it for us. We appreciate everybody checking us out. We of course I had a fantastic week. I want to thank again Mercedes Benz. I was at the Masters Wednesday and

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