#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Alabama's Riverfront Rumble, Jamie Foxx's Apology, Call for Texas A&M Board of Regents to Resign
Episode Date: August 8, 20238.7.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Alabama's Riverfront Rumble, Jamie Foxx's Apology, Call for Texas A&M Board of Regents to Resign The Congressional Black Caucus demands Senator Dick Durbin stop... the blue slip policy in the judiciary nomination process. I'll explain how this policy is rooted in racism and break down the reforms the CBC is asking for. Jamie Foxx is getting some misdirected heat for a social media post about Jesus. I'll explain how white folks should mind their business and stop looking for something to blame on black folks. Tennesee representatives Justin Jones and Justin Pearson reclaimed their seats in overwhelming margins after racist GOP members tried to expel them for protesting in assembly chambers. Justin Pearson will join us tonight. It was a rumble on an Alabama riverfront. A black dock worker gets attacked by a group of white men. But some other brothers ran and swam to his rescue. Roland explains why he is calling for the resignations of the entire Texas A&M University System Board of Regents to resign. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. "See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
Today is Monday, August 7th, 2023.
Coming up on Roland Martin on Pilchard,
streaming live on the Black Star Network.
The Congressional Black Caucus demands
Democrat Senator Dick Durbin stop the blue slip policy
in the judiciary nomination process.
I'll explain to you how this policy is rooted in racism
and break down the reforms the CBC is asking for.
Timmy Foxx got some misdirected heat
for a social media post about Jesus.
Jennifer Anderson called it anti-Semitic.
He apologized.
The ADL says, thanks for the clarification,
but why in the hell did he need to give one?
He wasn't talking about Jews.
What in the hell is wrong with folks?
Tennessee Reps Justin Jones and Justin Pearson
reclaimed their seats in overwhelming margins
after racist Republicans tried to expel them
for protesting in assembly chambers.
We'll be joined by Justin Pearson on today's show.
Nut if you buck! protesting in assembly chambers. We'll be joined by Justin Pearce on today's show.
Knock if you buck! Oh my God, on the Alabama riverfront,
a black dock worker gets attacked by a group of white men.
Oh, but the black cavalry came to the rescue.
Black social media has been lit for the last 48 hours.
And we'll show you all of the angles,
all of the memes, and break it all down.
Plus, Texas A&M last week released an internal review
in the Kathleen McElroy saga.
They apologized to her,
paid her a million dollar settlement.
Mm, I'm not satisfied.
I'm explaining to you
why two white conservative
Texas A&M University Board of Regents
members need to resign
from their positions.
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Martel.
When you win, you are supposed to act like you won.
So why are Senate Democrats so weak and timid when it comes to getting their appointments confirmed?
The Congressional Black Caucus, they have been challenging Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Dick Durbin for him allowing Republicans to continue to block federal judges, U.S. attorneys, and other positions using the blue slip.
Now, the blue slip policy is not constitutional.
It's not a rule.
It's a custom.
Well, the custom is that they allow the two senators from a state to determine whether or not a nominee goes forward.
So if they return a blue slip, well, then they put a hold on the nomination.
Well, the CBC has made it clear that there are two judges that need to be confirmed who have been blocked because of this
blue slip. Now again,
the blue slip is a tradition.
Again, historically given a home state
senator the ability to stop a lower
court nominee by refusing
to return the blue slip to the committee.
The committee
chairman, in this case,
Democrat Dick Derman,
he decides how strictly the precedent is upheld and enforced.
In a letter addressed to Durbin, CBC Chair Stephen Horsford calls on Durbin to use his power
as the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee to institute several reforms immediately
before the CDC can consider the nominations of Jerry Edwards, Jr. to the U.S. District Court
for the Western District of Louisiana and Brandon Long for the Eastern District of Louisiana.
The reforms include waiving the blue slip custom for U.S.
attorney and U.S. marshals requiring the return of only one blue slip
from a home state senator for each nominee, requiring senators
who refuse to return a blue slip
for a nominee to state their basis of objection
with particularity, example,
state why the nominee is unqualified,
as a measure of accountability,
and to ensure the opposition is non-discriminatory,
and memorializing a process to engage CBC members
with a jurisdictionality vested interest in the nomination.
Now, here's the deal.
The blue slip policy, y'all, dates back to Jim Crow.
But not only that, it has been used to block black lawyers and African Americans from being
able to get many of these positions in Mississippi, in Alabama, in Florida, in Louisiana, in Texas.
Now, here's what's crazy.
When Trump was president, Republican Senator Ron Johnson and Democrat Tammy Baldwin did
not return a blue slip on a judge that came from their state.
He didn't give a damn.
He went for it anyway.
So it's not like we don't have precedent.
My panel, Dr. Julianne Malveaux.
She's president at Merida Bennett College, also an economist.
I'm a Congo Dabina, a professorial lecturer,
School of International Service, American University.
Renita Shannon, former Georgia State Representative out of Atlanta.
Glad to have three of y'all here. See, here's the thing here, Renita.
You got red states that the Democrats are not going to win.
Oklahoma.
We know DeMario Solomon Simmons has been on here,
and they have unfilled judicial nominations.
They have unfilled U.S. attorney picks.
We now go to other states as well.
Biden has in their third year.
So it's like,
what the hell are you waiting on?
When you win, you win.
When you win,
act like it.
Absolutely, you're right.
And that is many of the criticisms that folks
have in public, which is for Democrats, which
is when you win, act like you win and
use that full power because you don't know how long you're going to
have that full power. And so to reform the blue slip process, the CBC is absolutely
correct in this because this has put us black folks at a disadvantage because that process
is so very powerful. As you mentioned, it's just precedent, but people are still sticking to this
precedent for the most part. And so we just went through this very recently when we had to get a
new federal judge in Georgia, whereby the two U.S. senators pretty much hold all the power as to who is going to get
that appointment. And so there definitely needs to be some sort of reform around this. I do like
the suggestions that the Black Caucus has to make this more equitable, because any time that you
have got two people and you look at how many people, how low our numbers are
in the U.S. Senate as far as black people that are
elected, anytime where you've got two people who are
likely not to be black holding all
the power, that never bears well for black
folks. And the thing
here, I'm sorry,
you've got to put a time limit on
this, Omicongo. You've got
to literally say, hey, you know
what? We'll give you six months, max a year.
But damn this holding up stuff for two, three, four years.
Republicans have done this.
They have blocked the appointments.
I remember when that racist Jesse Helms, representing North Carolina, he would go, oh, the court's
fine.
They don't need any help with their docket.
When the judges was complaining, we need help.
They were blocking Democrats from appointing judges.
And Democrats went along with that crap because like, oh, what happens when we don't have the power?
Damn that. You got it right now. Use it.
That's what I'm saying. Look, when you win, go in.
You know what I'm saying? Period. Bottom you win, go in, you know, period, bottom line.
I don't get it. You know, I was already disappointed when I finally realized that Biden really had no interest in expanding the Supreme Court.
Right. People say, oh, he's a traditionalist. But expanding the court is not breaking the law.
But all of these other areas, when you talk to look at the military with Tuberville and what he's doing,
there are so many other areas where the Biden administration and the Senate Democrats can really make some headway. We busted our
behinds to make sure that we kept the Senate majority. And why, like you said, this election,
this presidency is almost up. We don't know what's going to happen in 2024. We don't know.
We know there's no guarantee there. And to be quite honest, I really feel like actions like
these, particularly as they become more public, you know, many average people who like don't really follow stuff may not know things like this.
But when these stories start to come out, some of the more hardcore Democrats or younger Democrats, this is the type of stuff that's going to make them want to say, what's the point in getting out to vote? Because you guys are not going to be as aggressive as we need you all to be. And we have seen this time and time again with
this administration, as well as with the Senate. We understand what's going on in the House,
but the Senate too many times, and they're on all of this, oh, the gentlewoman, the gentlelady,
my dear friend, this and that. These guys, their dear friends are supporting racist policies.
They're supporting policies that remove women's choice.
And the list goes on and on and on.
And as it was said, this is a remnant of Jim Crow.
So if you're not going to take a stance on that publicly and fearlessly, many people are going to be asking, what are you doing and why am I wasting my time?
Now, I'm not going to ask why am I wasting my time in Democrats, but I am going to say, what are you doing?
Julianne?
You know, I agree with everything
that Omokongo and Renita have said.
This is ridiculous.
Um, two judges held in abeyance,
don't want to pull the blue slip,
whatever, you know, the terminology is.
This is a remnant of Jim Crow, but even more than that,
it ties Democrats' hands.
I do not understand. First of all, I don't understand all that gentle lady, gentle.
They ain't gentle people. They're crazy. So why would we call them gentle? My dear friend,
they're not your friend. They're not coming to your house. But beyond that part, the history
is a fraught history. And beyond that part, Democrats need to be more aggressive.
Democrats are wusses. I mean, I'm a Democrat, but official Democrats are wusses. They refuse
to roll their sleeves up, cock their fists and fight. Why do we go through? You got the Latasha
Browns, the Melanie Campbells. Why do we go through all the trouble to get people out to vote
if once we vote these suckers in, and yes,
I said these suckers in, I'm keeping it clean,
once we vote them in,
they refuse to do their job.
All we're asking them to do is to
do their job.
And precedent be damned.
Go to my iPad.
This is a press release from
2017
when Dianne Feinstein was the ranking member on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
And so you will see here this is November 29th. It's right there. The date, November 29th, 2017.
So this is what she said this morning. This morning, Judiciary Committee nominations hearing includes a nominee who has yet to receive both blue slips from home state senators.
She then goes on to say the blue slips ensures the White House doesn't ignore those bipartisan processes which produce well-qualified candidates.
But this is what she said.
The last time a judge was confirmed without two blue slips was 1989.
Fewer than five judges have been confirmed without two blue slips in the past 100 years.
She says during the administration of President Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton,
no circuit court or district court nominees were confirmed without blue slips from both home state senators.
She says, say how he ignored that whole deal when it came to Trump. So here's my whole deal. Durbin,
what the hell are you doing? Your predecessor, he was like, hey, we're confirming them. And the
judges is a whole different deal. The thing for me here, this is where U.S. attorneys, U.S. marshals, I mean, give me a break. Now is the
time for Dick Durbin to get off his butt and stand up and be a leader. President Obama, excuse me,
President Biden won. Black folks went out and elected Ossoff and Warnock, giving Democrats the majority in the Senate.
It's time to stop blocking great black talent.
Pull a graphic up. So here's what I want you all to do.
It's time for us to send a message to Senator Dick Durbin that we stand with the CBC.
Here are the phone numbers to his offices. And this is what has to happen. You have got to
pick that phone up and call Senator Dick Durbin's offices to let him know, point blank, that we
stand with the CBC and enough with the blue slip nonsense. It is time to confirm federal judges use attorneys and US Marshals that main number
I want you to call is 202 224 2152
We are going to show these numbers every single day
He needs to hear from us
black people in Illinois
Y'all need to be calling your home state senator and tell him poop or get off the pot.
It's time for him to do the right thing and stop playing these games.
And so this is how we're going to respond.
And so enough of this nonsense.
It's time for Senator Dick Durbin to stand up to these Republican obstructionists who are blocking the advancement.
They lost.
Biden-Harris won.
Enough said.
It's time to get going.
All right, y'all.
Got to go to break.
We come back.
Lots more to talk about.
And clue me.
Okay, I was busy last week at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention.
And I saw the tweet Jamie Foxx put out.
And all of a sudden he has to apologize for anti-Semitism for some stuff that black churches have been saying for decades?
Yeah, I got something to say about that.
Plus, two white conservatives on the Texas A&M Board of Regents showed their ideology and how they blocked
an overly qualified black woman
from one of the Department of Journalism.
Texas A&M has released an internal review
including their text messages.
It is time for those two to resign
and we're going to show you and name them who they are. Lots
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All right, folks, award-winning actor, comedian, as well as singer, Jamie Foxx.
Well, he got some heat for a social media post.
All right, y'all, so this is what he posted.
They killed Jesus.
They killed this dude named Jesus.
What do you think they'll do to you?
Hashtag fake friends.
That's it.
That's the post.
It said fake friends.
Hashtag fake friends.
Drop a little thirds.
Hashtag fake friends.
Hashtag fake love, hashtag fake love That's it
That's it
But for some
Because he put they
Oh
They said that
He implied
That he was talking about Jews
Yeah
Jennifer Aniston is one of them.
Y'all got her tweet?
Come on, post it.
Okay.
All right.
So, okay.
I don't know why we have it.
Hold on.
Okay.
Let me find it.
All right.
Let me find what she posted, y'all.
So, hold on.
So, this is what she posted.
Jennifer Aniston posted, this really makes me sick.
I did not like this post on purpose or by accident.
And more importantly, I want to be clear to my friends and anyone hurt by this showing up in their feeds.
I do not support any form of anti-Semitism and I truly don't tolerate hate of any kind, period. So Jennifer Aniston
decides to label
this
anti-Semitism.
So somebody said, oh,
actor Jamie Foxx posts horrifically
anti-Semitic message to his
16.7 million followers.
And then they have the Jamie Foxx post.
That's literally how much she
posted.
So what then happens?
Jamie issues an apology.
I want to apologize to the Jewish community and everyone who was offended by my post.
I know my choice of words have caused offense, and I'm sorry.
That was never in my intent.
To clarify, I was betrayed by a fake friend, and that's what I meant with they not anything more
I only have love in my heart for everyone
I love and support the Jewish community
my deepest apologies to anyone who was offended
nothing but love always Damien Fox
that's what
actually happened
that was it y'all but oh That's what actually happened.
That was it, y'all.
But, oh, all these people want to weigh in.
So Jonathan Greenblatt, who is CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, he posts, first of all, this is what he initially said.
We welcome Jamie Foxx's apology and thank him for his clarification.
Furthermore, we wish him well as he recovers from his prior hospitalization.
Then he goes, truly appreciate Jamie Foxx reaching out and confirming privately what he also said publicly.
His message of love for the Jewish community is crucial in this time of rising hate.
We are stronger together.
Okay, Jennifer Aniston.
Okay, Jonathan Green Black.
Here's my question for y'all.
Do y'all know any black people?
Any?
Have y'all been to any black churches?
Have y'all listened to any black churches? Have y'all listened to any black pastors?
Because in the black community, they kill Jesus.
It's common.
Black folks warn people against trusting too easily. In fact, if Jennifer Aniston or Jonathan Greenblatt, if y'all took any time to actually look at matter how much you explain yourself. So don't explain yourself. Word to Jamie Foxx.
Yep.
I mean, we can sit here
and go on and on at numerous people
right here.
And you will see, this guy posts,
this Demi Fox thing illuminates how unfamiliar cultures are with each other.
Sometimes black people often state some form of what Jamie said.
And it's not about Jewish people, but the world and backstabbers.
The root of this saying is John 15, 20.
That's literally what the brother Darren Briggs said.
That's what he said.
Dr. Mia Brett, Jamie Foxx used a phrase with his own meaning in the black community.
He apologized and doesn't owe us anything.
This should be a moment of cross-cultural understanding, not one of forcing black people
to understand us without offering the same.
Yep. That's black people. Yep. I mean, we can literally go, somebody posted this here.
They said, this is the fake friend that Jamie Foxx was talking about. It's the photo with him and Jennifer Aniston. I mean, if I sat here, y'all, and just go through here
and read this.
In fact, this is one on Twitter.
He says, I'm not going to go into whether or not Jamie Foxx's
Instagram post, which was allegedly liked by Jennifer
Aniston, is anti-Semitic or not. In the story of Jesus, he was betrayed by a follower named Judas
before he was killed by the Roman Empire. The term Judas is another word in pop culture for
fake friend. I believe that this is what Jamie Foxx was alluding to, and given the fact that
he adamantly apologized, I tend to believe him. With this said, the myth that Jesus was killed
by Jewish people is simply incorrect.
Even Pope Benedict XVI said there's no basis for this myth.
People are too fast to attack one another, trying to put things in context, in my honest opinion.
There's no place for anti-Semitism in America, but when we water down the definition of an anti-Semite,
or for that matter, other terms like groomers, pedophiles, or cults,
you're doing a disservice to society and a service to anti-Semites, groomers, pedophiles, and cults.
Chill out, people.
Humanity isn't as bad as you think.
Okay, that's Ed Krasenstein.
Okay, that's what he posted.
Jamie Foxx was talking about fake friends.
So it's only ironic that he gets heat from someone that was on the fake living single.
Excellent point.
The point here I think is really important.
And that is, non-black people should understand that there are things that we say that ain't about them.
There are phrases that we use Black mamas
Black daddies
Black pastors
Black deacons
Black evangelists
All the time
And if the ADL or anybody else
Is going to demand the apology from black people
Y'all going to be asking a whole bunch of pastors
To apologize
For giving sermons
This to me Is idiotic whole bunch of pastors to apologize for giving sermons.
This to me is idiotic.
And so are we now supposed to now go, I mean, let me walk carefully. Anytime we say they, this is nonsensical.
And Jennifer Anderson, you were wrong. Those of you who chose
to highlight this, y'all are wrong too.
So at some point, if everyone and y'all, oh my goodness,
when I say y'all, oh my God, is he
mentioning us who are Jewish? No. Y'all means everybody
not black. Y'all need
to understand that we
also have the right to create
terms and phrases that have meaning
in our culture and it ain't about
y'all.
Julianne, you're first.
This is absurd.
I wish Jamie Foxx had not apologized because he doesn't have anything to apologize for.
He was betrayed, as he said, by a fake friend,
and he said, you know, basically what he said.
Not to paraphrase, just to say,
he had nothing to apologize for.
These people have gone, their anti-Blackness is pervasive, and Jennifer Aniston needs to be ashamed of herself.
Omokongo?
I think that he did the right thing by apologizing.
And the reason why is because we knew what he meant. And the fact of the matter
is when you look at Black culture, like you said, we've always said this, look at Nas's video,
Can You Hate Me Now, taking on the persona of Jesus Christ and the like. And because he didn't
mean to offend anybody, I think it made sense for him to just say, hey, this is what I meant.
Now, beyond that, we need to take advantage of these teachable moments. We know that outrage is an industry nowadays.
At the same time, we also know that there are high intentions within the Jewish community with these synagogue shootings and the like.
But like you said, Roland, people have to understand that we have a culture, too.
And so he can apologize for that.
But where does the part from the Jewish community come in saying, let's have a conversation so we can build.
What a lot of people try to do, they try to, you know, label him and connect him to Kanye
because they did a song in 2004, and then they started bringing all these other things into it.
And that's where the outrage industry started to pick up.
Jennifer Aniston definitely sold him out.
And, you know, I'm just glad that he did that.
But the question for the rest of America and the rest of society is, where do we go from here?
Is it, oh, all of a sudden we're going to stop?
Or are people still going to attack him?
Are they going to try to have him lose things?
Or are we going to try to build and learn from this?
Because what you've been laying down, Roland, you've been talking and educating people about our culture.
Now there's other people out there who can speak about Jewish things and build on that.
And so I knew that Jamie Foxx, or I don't know him, but I felt where he was coming from
and we understood it from jump.
But now let's build and continue the conversation together.
Well, for me, Renita,
this is not necessarily about building a conversation.
This is about other people
who want us to be mindful
of tropes and things that they say,
I need them to respect
black culture. I need
them to learn about black
culture. I got, go to my iPad,
some guy named Stephen Goldstein said,
I criticized Amy Fox for invoking
an infamous anti-Semitic trope.
Some replied we should accept his
explanation that it was not aimed at us
Jews, but thousands of non-Jews interpreted his post
As aimed at Jews
And expressed support for that
Including on my page
So painful
Well guess what Stephen Goldstein
I'm going to do the same thing
I invite you and Jonathan Greenblatt
To come on this show
A show targeted to black people
And have this conversation
We reached out to the
ADL. They haven't responded.
I tweeted a green
black. They haven't responded.
Now this dude, Stephen Goldstein, apparently follows
me. I'm going to send him a DM
because this is a perfect
example where
again, folks need to understand
not everything is
about you. It's everything is about you.
It's also learning about us.
Absolutely.
This is people trying to be involved in black vernacular, and they have no idea what they are talking about.
The other problem with this is Jamie Foxx already apologized, and people are still saying that's not good enough.
Here's my question.
Where are all these folks with the smoke for people like Trump and even right here in Georgia, Governor Kemp?
Because I don't even remember seeing this much smoke when Trump basically had the Proud Boys marching saying Jews will not replace us.
I don't—some of these people who are coming out, did Jennifer Aniston do a big thing about that?
You know, and, you know, even as late as this weekend, we had people passing out anti-Semitic flyers in Georgia, and Brian Kemp did an apology.
And people hailed him as providing such great leadership.
OK, but they don't remember when he ran a campaign of hate against half of the state in 2018 when he ran against Stacey Abrams have people who absolutely have no shame and who have
never apologized for directly and intentionally, and we're not even talking misunderstandings here,
directly and intentionally attacking the Jewish community. People seem to, when they are white,
people seem to have open arms later on and they can forget about what has happened. But Jamie Foxx
here has apologized and still some people are saying not enough. Jennifer better be quiet because
I'm seeing folks on the internet saying
the folding chair is coming for her
next. Well, first of all,
I am not trying to beat nobody up
or anything along those lines. What I am
saying is
if you
don't take, if you automatically
assume something and you have
no understanding, I mean, there are
thousands of black people who've been talking about, wait a minute, this is what that phrase
means. When we say that, what it means. So again, what I'm saying is if people want us to be
sympathetic to phrases, they need to also listen to us to understand what happens when we say stuff and what it means. And so it's not always
about what you infer. It's also about what we imply. And that's important. And that needs to
be understood. All right. Hold tight one second. We come back. One of the reps of the Republicans
kicked out, won his seat. We'll talk about Justin Pearson when we come back and roll them out on
the field trip. I got some words for Texas A&M University.
It's time for two of those Board of Regents members to resign.
I will break it down for you.
Also, folks, the Houston Astros with the White House today.
And lots of praise for my man Dusty Baker, who finally got that World Series title he had been looking for.
We'll show you what President Biden had to say, as well as what Houston Astros owner Jim Crane had to say.
Plus, let's get ready to rumble!
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In a place where you got kicked out your mama's university,
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All right, folks. Conservatives love talking about how they're fiscal conservatives,
so why did they waste taxpayer money expelling two black members of the legislature,
forcing them to run in special elections?
They won, but the bottom line, it was a complete waste of time.
They were overwhelmingly elected by the people.
That's Representative Justin Pearson, Representative Justin Jones in Memphis and Nashville.
Representative Pearson joins us right now. Doc, always glad to see you.
And it was a complete waste. They thought it was going to work.
It did not. And it really was a waste of money to taxpayers. Yeah, it was nearly a million dollars wasted in this election
because of the institutions of white supremacy, the institutions of patriarchy and domination
that come out of the Tennessee General Assembly. We have an institution that has been embodied and
embroiled in its own power and abusing that power against people of color, against black folks,
against LGBTQIA folks, against black folks, against LGBTQIA
folks, against socioeconomically depressed folks for a long time. And anytime that we see a
usurpation of that power, anytime we see others who speak up and who are willing to stand up
against them, they go to the extreme and they overreach even to the detriment of our democracy.
And again, there are major issues that have to contend with and really what these people want.
These people like right now, these are the same people who are defending Donald Trump saying he had free speech to lie about the election.
But they don't like your free speech or Gloria Johnson's free speech or Justin Jones free speech.
That's right. That's right. I mean, anytime you get oppressed folks who are claiming their power and their right to the same constitution, their right to the same
democracy, their right to the same beliefs that many people on the more conservative side or
Republican side hold up, then there's a white lash, a white response that's always negative.
We stood up because 7,000 people came to our Capitol in the wake of a mass shooting at the
Covenant School where six people were killed, including three nine-year-old children. Because Cameron Sexton and
William Lamberth wouldn't recognize us to welcome those folks into our chambers, because they would
rather call us insurrectionists and call those children insurrectionists, and because they would
rather try and expel our voice and expel our community's fight, they did not move forward on any
just legislation that could improve our communities. What we are seeing is always
the maintenance of white supremacy, the maintenance of patriarchy, the maintenance of the abuse of
power, while all of us are being sacrificed because of it. And so when we go back into the
special session on August 21st, my hope is that we're going to push forward a democracy and not a mobocracy, which is what we currently have in the state
house, and that the people who are outside, who continue to march, who continue to elevate
their voices, who continue to make those phone calls and send those emails, will continue
to show the supermajority white Republican Party that the status quo is not going to
work, and that the ways that they have performed and the ways that they have acted over the last year and years and decades is not going to be something that we
tolerate moving forward. There are so many things that have to be dealt with, and it's amazing how
silent these people are on these issues. You know, they're pushing forward. Look, I support
school choice, but they're trying to use voucher money for religious schools. They want to violate the Constitution.
They actually don't care about the education of poor black kids, even poor white kids.
They just want to give suburban folks free money to be able to send their kids to private schools.
Right. You got the paradoxes of the Republican Party in Tennessee and across this country that is baffling. A party that says that they are pro-life refuses to provide any resources for education, for
housing, for health care.
In our state, there's been a refusal to expand Medicaid through Obamacare.
You have folks who say they care about the First Amendment, but once black folks, particularly
the two youngest black lawmakers, used that First Amendment to advocate for the end of
gun violence against the National Rifle Association, the Tennessee Firearms
Association, the American Firearms Association. Then they go to the most extreme method possible
of expulsion. The Republican Party is about power and is about abusing that power in order to
privilege those who are already the most privileged. They're privileged because they are white. They
are privileged because they are wealthy. And they only want to keep that. They don't want to eliminate segregation. They don't want to make sure that there's more equitable access to resources and opportunities. They don't want to end poverty, whether that be for black folks this entire country. And they don't want change. They benefit a whole lot from the way things are. They benefit a whole
lot by keeping things the exact same. And any threat to what they deem is their power, any
threat to the status quo, any threat to the way that they operate or the way that they function,
you speaking up against them, you voting against them, you acting against them in any way,
they want to silence it. Now they make it illegal for you to protest outside of our state capitol overnight. They are destroying democracy and eroding democracy
because the truth is they don't believe in democracy. They do not want to see what the
people have to say. They want to gerrymander our communities. They want to silence our voices.
They want to expel our voices. But the people in our district in Memphis and Millington and
District 86, the people in Representative Jones' district have sent a really, really clear message. You can't expel a movement.
Questions from the panel. McCongle, you first.
Congratulations, Representative Pearson, on your win. I was hearing about a study today that was
showing that there are more attempts to suppress the vote in many ways now, more than during the
Jim Crow era. Given the fact that
you've experienced this firsthand, what message do you give to the rest of the country and the
rest of Democrats who may think that Biden's already got it in the bag, we don't have to
worry about anything going into 2024 or Trump's going to be indicted, et cetera? What message
do you have for us? Yeah, our democracy is in peril. The fact that our constituents lost
their duly elected representative in the 21st century, in the year 2023, shows you that the
Republican Party will go to every length possible to silence our voices and to silence the issues
that we care about. We cannot afford to be on the sidelines. There's no room on the sidelines for
anybody. There is only room for us to be in the game. And if we go back to the way that things were, if we go back to the conditions
under President Trump and under that administration, which was filled with lots of terror for people of
color, for black folk, for poor folk, if we go back to that way of operating, we are going to
live in a country that is devastating for each of us every single day. I vividly remember
barely being able to hold, barely being able to breathe for four years just because we were
afraid of what the next tweet was going to say and who was going to be attacked and which community
was going to be marginalized. Now that type of behavior has gone into the state houses,
is in our state houses currently, and is turning into legislation. We cannot afford to sit on the
sidelines. President Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris have to be reelected, and we have to do everything that we can to go to the polls and
also to bring a lot more people with us because they are after power. And they will use and wield
that power to destroy our environment, to support corporations, to make sure that the wealthy get
wealthier and that the poor get poorer. They would do everything that they can to restrict access to health care.
And this will have serious implications and consequences for us and also generations and generations from now, as we see with the Supreme Court.
Renata.
Good to see you, Representative Pearson, and I'm really glad to see your reelection results.
My question for you is most of the state legislatures across the country do not have term limits.
And so as a result, you can see people serving decades in the same seat.
And sometimes that brings a sort of comfortability for folks when we really do need them to fight.
How has your return, or should I say, has your return to the Democratic caucus inspired others to be as ferocious as you are about fighting. What effect has that had?
Every person who says that they are a Democrat have a responsibility wherever they are to fight
with everything that they have. Look, it's hard to be in a supermajority Republican statehouse,
and that's the consequence of gerrymandering and illegal tactics, in my opinion, that have turned a state that is a lot
more purple, almost all red, because of those negative practices. But even in a state like
Tennessee, in the South, we have a responsibility to advocate and to stand up for our people,
because our people live there. Our communities are there, people who are being marginalized and
being oppressed. In this multiracial, multiethnic, multigenerational movement, we are realizing that until everybody is benefiting,
specifically black women, until they are benefiting, none of us are benefiting.
And my hope is that other Democrats in the state of Tennessee and also across the country realize
that they can't take your voice. And if they try to, you have to fight for it and you have to fight
for your community and your constituents. It was very disheartening to hear a lot of my colleagues talk about how they've been
silenced for years by the supermajority white Republican Party in Tennessee, and they had
just become accustomed to it.
But if you become accustomed to that, you become silently complicit in our suffering.
And we don't have time for that, not in this moment, not in this time.
We've got to use everything that we can, including our voice, including the Internet, including
all of our resources, to elevate the issues of our community and to fight back against white supremacy
and to fight back against patriarchy and to fight back against these systems of injustices that are
crippling and hurting our country. Julianne? First of all, Representative, congratulations on your win
and thank you for your work. Every time I see you and your colleague, I just feel some kind of way just proud that
you all are there.
And for somebody who is an elder, I only claim that occasionally.
But as an elder, I feel okay about sitting down when young folks like you are standing
up.
Now, you're in this supermajority state with Republicans, and a lot of folks are really feeling very discouraged about things like this, about the supermajority state and the inability to get things done.
What do you tell young people who are saying, I don't want to vote?
I mean, we talked about it earlier, this program, young people who are turned off primarily because Democrats are wusses,
many Democrats, not all of them, but many Democrats. But what do you say to young people?
Because we're going into 2024. We are going to have an uphill battle. How did we and we're
afraid when we look at pollsters that young people are turned off. What do you say to young people?
What do you say to all of us? One, thank you for your service to our community,
to the culture, to the movement. There's a great song, Glory. It says we need the wisdom of the
elders and young people's energy. A lot of folks have marched, have protested, have advocated for
us to get to this place that we are. And it's so important that we always recognize that and are
humble toward those who have served in so many ways to uphold and to keep our communities together.
To young people, to everybody who is interested in democracy and its preservation, to anybody who wants to live in a country where the possibility of ending poverty is a reality,
where it is possible for children to go to school and get the resources that they need.
I went to school without textbooks for a short time when I moved back to Memphis. I know what
it's like to be deprived of those resources. If you are trying to live in a country where women
have access to the things that they need for their health care and for their children, if you want to
live in a country where we can fight for clean air and clean water and clean soil, if you want to be
a part of building that future, you have to actively be a participant, civically engaged in
building and being a part of that movement. The reality is if you do to actively be a participant, civically engaged in building and
being a part of that movement. The reality is if you do not go to the polls, somebody will.
And the person that does go to the polls is the one who is making the decisions for you.
The person who does go to the polls is the one who's making the decisions about our economy.
They're the one who's making the decisions about spending, going to the top 1% and not to the
bottom 99%. The person who does go to the polls is the
one who is making sure that their voices get heard for the issues that they care about.
And if you do not go, somebody is going to the polls to make that choice and make that decision
for you. And for this generation, for Generation Z, for millennials, this is the time. And now is
the moment for us to make it very clear that not only do we vote, but we vote for progress. We vote
for social justice. We vote for racial justice. We vote for economic justice because we are living in a
society that is not fair and that is not just. It has to be made more fair. It has to be made
more just. But that'll only happen if we vote, if we protest, if we march, and if we stay engaged
civically because the people who are not engaged civically are ensuring their legislative eradication.
Representative Pearson, always glad to see you.
Look, we certainly stand with you.
You're welcome to the show anytime.
We're going to keep the fight up.
Thank you so much. Let's keep going.
All right. Thanks a bunch.
Folks, we come back.
Dusty Baker, honor at the White House.
Along the age, you should ask Joe,
it's one of the World Series.
I was there as well.
We'll show you what President Biden
and the Astros owner Jim Crane had to say.
Texas A&M.
Oh, they thought that we were just going to be silent and go away once they gave Kathleen McElroy a million dollars after they screwed up her appointment.
Mm-mm.
I'm not done because I'm not satisfied. We're going to show you some of the BS comments discovered in text messages by two Texas A&M
board of regents.
It's time for them to resign.
We're going to break that down.
Plus, the brawl in Montgomery.
Everybody's talking about it.
You know, we got something to say about it as well.
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being of service to others?
Doing for someone beside yourself is such a
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We'll talk about what that means,
the generation that
missed that message and the price that we're all paying as a result. Well, now all I see is mama
getting up in the morning, going to work, maybe dropping me off at school, then coming back home
at night. And then I really didn't have any type of time with the person that really was there to
nurture me and prepare me and to show me what a life looked like
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Today at the Houston Astros, we're at the
White House being honored by President Joe Biden
for winning the World Series.
Second time my hometown team has winning the World Series. Second time my hometown
team has won the World Series title.
President Biden had lots
of praise for
Dusty Baker,
the manager. Now you know it was sweet as
well because he got screwed over
in D.C. by the Washington Nationals
when they fired him.
So it was in the course we lost.
He lost in the World Series to the Nationals.
First of all, the Nationals lost to the Nationals.
But Dusty, then Dusty came back last year,
winning the World Series title in six games against the Philadelphia Phillies.
Achievements led by, and this is not hyperbole, the legendary Dusty Baker.
Worst part was I remember rooting for him as a kid, and I was older than he was.
Dusty, it wasn't easy.
People counted you out saying you're past your prime.
Hell, I know something about that.
I know something about that.
Dusty, a former Marine, a man of faith, has never given up with a record to prove it. An All-Star player, three-time manager of the year,
the first coach to lead five teams to postseason
in all of baseball history.
And finally, World Series champion
as a player and a manager. There are plenty of folks rooting for the Astros, but the whole country is rooting for
Dusty Baker, I promise you that.
The whole country.
I think we were lucky to pick off Dusty a few years ago, and Dusty has an unbelievable
career, everyone knows that, but this year he won a World Series.
He hadn't won a World Series, believe it or not.
And I'm happy to turn it over to him,
and I'm proud to have Dusty as our manager.
Thank you.
Thanks, Jim.
Good afternoon, and we're honored to be here today
to represent the city of Houston and this organization.
President Biden, First Lady, Dr. Biden, and your team,
we thank you for inviting us to the celebration of our championship.
These guys deserve it, and we thank you for the hospitality.
These guys standing behind me are the greatest guys that I've been around.
They're always bleeding themselves.
They always believed in themselves prior to me even coming here that they had the ability to win.
And they showed what perseverance and character can do for you.
I have these readings every day that I read, and that was about today was perseverance.
And perseverance has been, you know, the biggest part of my life,
and perseverance has been the biggest part of these guys' life,
or else you can't make it to the promised land like we did.
These guys, you know, were a group of veterans alongside some incredible young men
who stepped into big shoes and made big plays for the biggest stage.
We all know baseball is a long season, and they came to play every day.
That's what we talk about all the time.
They were consistent in their personalities and confidence
and they had each other with unwavering support for each other
and love for each other.
I mean, I think that is probably one of the biggest things that this team has
compared to other teams that I've been in the past
is that they genuinely loved each other.
And when I asked
the late Bill Russell what was the keys to the Celtics, whom I didn't like very well, he told me
that they loved each other. 2022 was never about one individual. It was about a group of men coming
together to accomplish something very special for this city that supported them.
I love them all. You've got to love each and every one of them, and it's the only way to come together in a special feeling that is tough to describe and hard to repeat, but we plan on
repeating exactly that feeling. Houston's a great city with great people and great fans.
Hands down, we're the best baseball fans in America.
And we couldn't have done it without their support.
I said the night we won that if we won one, we'd win two.
And so now I got to keep my word.
I like keeping my word.
And we're in the middle of making it happen right now.
Coming off a great series in New York,
heading into a big series in Baltimore,
probably the biggest series that Baltimore has had in a while.
But... Hey, I'm known to be honest, you know.
No harm intended.
And, you know, thank you, Mr. President and your staff for having us here today.
It's an honor. And again, big congratulations to Dusty Baker and the Houston Astros for their, of course, winning the World Series.
Always got to rep my hometown.
And my man Gene Diaz, of course, he's the head of PR for the Astros.
And man, was he rocking that new World Series ring.
I took a picture of it there for you.
So check that beauty out there.
So H-Town, way to go.
All right, folks, coming up next.
Texas A&M screwed up royally when it came to the hiring of Kathleen McElroy. We now know that white conservatives jumped up, yelled, hollered, screamed, and talked about DEI.
We're lying.
Now, with this internal review,
we now know the ideological hatred
of university higher-ups,
as well as members of the Board of Regents,
and wait until we show you text messages,
what they actually said to one another.
And that's why I'm calling for two of these Regents
to resign, and I'm calling for the black chair,
Beal Mahomes, to stand up and be a black man,
and say something and do something.
That is next.
Then after that, we're going to talk about Montgomery.
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Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene,
a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence.
You will not replace us.
White people are losing their damn minds.
There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol.
We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance.
We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial.
This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress,
whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at every university calls white
rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America,
there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys guys.
This country is getting increasingly racist
in its behaviors and its attitudes
because of the fear of white people.
The fear that they're taking our jobs,
they're taking our resources,
they're taking our women.
This is white fear. On the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's Wealth Coach,
the studies show that millennials and Gen Xers will be less well off than their parents.
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Well, joining me on the next Get Wealthy is an author who's created a master playbook.
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If that's what you have to lean on,
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All right, folks.
We've been telling you about the sad debacle at Texas A&M University with the hiring or the screwed up hiring of Kathleen McElroy.
So here was the deal. Texas Tribune has been reporting this.
So Kathleen McElroy, esteemed journalist, grossly overqualified to run the Department of Journalism at Texas A&M.
Used to have one when I was there.
Got rid of it.
Now they're bringing it back.
Okay?
So, set, five-year contract, tenure, all that good stuff.
Texas A&M makes a big deal out of it.
They have a signing ceremony.
We got the video show it.
I mean, big hoopla.
Again, hiring her.
Well, then all of a sudden sudden that's when the drama started.
Then the president got involved
and the board of readers got involved.
And then that led to
changes in the contract.
Then she tells what happened.
Then all of a sudden
this thing blows up.
It goes public.
President Kathleen Banks,
she starts lying. What she didn't know, she
wasn't involved. Well, that was all lies. She eventually resigns. Last week, the Texas
A&M Board of Regents announced a $1 million settlement with Kathleen McElroy. They also announced, they also apologized for what took place.
And so what then happened was,
what then happened was they released this internal report, this internal review.
And that's when things got real interesting, folks.
And so they begin to lay out in this internal review
what went wrong and what happened and statements. And so then we began to discover
the lies and the deceit that existed. So all the stuff that we were hearing And it was so funny I remember When Kathleen
When she
Kathleen Banks when she addressed
The faculty senate
And I posted on social media
She was lying I had a couple of people
Hit me and they say well Roland how do you
Actually know she's lying
And I'm like I've been a journalist
For a long time
I know when folks start lying because they start making stuff up and then it just makes no sense whatsoever.
Well, now we know that. And now we know. And the report shows that she was lying.
It shows that she was extremely involved. The report shows that Kathleen Banks wanted to defer the hiring of McElroy
after the legislature.
We also know that she then asked,
said to the interim dean of the College of Liberal Arts,
did he delete text messages between them?
We also know that, based upon the report, that
she then also made comments such as,
we dodged a bullet. How dare she?
Why would she go to the media? On and on and on
and on and on. And we know that because of internal
review. But what really stands out to me
is that in this internal review,
we also begin to see the comments
from members of the Board of Regents.
And so what then happened, again,
so this right here is called Memo on Kathleen McElroy.
And so you can see this whole thing So this right here is called Memo on Kathleen McElroy.
And so you can see this whole thing at www.tamus.edu forward slash internal dash review forward slash.
Let me say it again.
And y'all really ought to go watch it. www.tamus.edu internal-review.
It is absolutely stunning because it says in here,
it gives you the whole timeline.
It gives you the whole timeline what actually happened.
It shows you, again, text messages exchanged where they
talked about, you know, the publicity and things along those. It says right here,
later in text messages exchanged on May 11th and 12th, 2023, Bermudez, who was the interim dean,
conferred with Blanton, who was the head of the department and
Indicated that he had spoken with banks the president and that she preferred not to have any publicity on the McElroy appointment
until after the legislative session ended
Blanton expressed his concern that it could result in negative publicity for the university
If we ask a famous black journalist not to share her exciting decision with the world.
Not only that y'all, a famous black journalist
who is a graduate of the university.
Bermudez reminded Blanton
there was no formal offer letter yet
and explained his understanding
of Banks the president motivation in the text quote,
"'Bottom line is the NYT
connection is poor optics
during this particular
legislative session.
So what Banks was saying
was, she was
saying, oh, no, no, no, no,
don't mention this because she worked for the New York
Times.
These white conservatives in Texas, oh, no, no, no, no, no, don't mention this because she worked for the New York Times. These white conservatives in Texas, oh, my God, if the New York Times,
if they were the New York Times, don't say it. Don't say it.
Back to my iPad. McElroy was not informed that her hiring was being delayed
due to the legislative session. She was told the delay was due to administrative requirements
and the need to process paperwork.
She was lying.
She was lying.
You go through here, offer letter of arrival, it was supposed to be tenure, all those things.
Then all of a sudden, Texas Scorecard published an article entitled, Aggies Hire New York Times Diversity Advocate to Head Journalism Program.
Oh, all of us, that was it.
So then this conservative website begins to attack her as the DEI queen.
That's when things begin to happen.
Then it says, back to the iPad,
the Texas Scorecard article generated numerous calls and emails to the president's office at TAMU,
including from the Rudder Association as a right wing organization,
and other former students raising questions
about why a DEI proponent would be hired
to serve as director of the new journalism program,
not the fact that she had more than 20 years
in the New York Times,
not the fact that she was a top editor,
not the fact that she was a former head
of the Journalism Department at the University of Texas,
top center of the states, not any of that.
She was a DEI advocate.
Let me be perfectly clear, y'all.
The Texas A&M Journalist Department was weak when I was there.
It was.
It wasn't even in the top.
Let me be perfectly clear with y'all.
The Texas A&M Journalist Department, when I was there, was weaker than the University of Texas,
North Texas State, Sam Houston,
the University of Houston, and Texas Southern.
I know, because I went to all of them.
I saw their programs.
We didn't even have a TV station.
We didn't even have cameras for our television class.
We didn't have any radio station.
All we had was a school newspaper.
I'm speaking from experience.
I didn't go there because the journalism school.
I went there because my brother was there.
It was easy for my parents because we had three kids in college at the same time.
It was easy for them financially to have us in one place at one time.
That's why I went.
I was a top student in my magnet school of communications.
I was number one.
I could have went to Texas, Northwestern, Missouri, Syracuse.
I couldn't afford to.
That's why I went.
That and a scholarship.
That's why I went.
But I digress so you go through this here
and all of a sudden
the review talks about how
these regents
started
getting involved
oh in an apparent response to
regent inquiries on June 16th
banks informed Bermudez in a telephone call that
there was a potential problem with McElroy
obtaining tenure at
TAMU. From that conversation,
the idea of shifting the position
to a non-tenure track
professor of practice position emerged.
It's unclear
if Banks or Bermudez first suggested
it. And here's the crazy
thing. McElroy was actually fine with that. if banks or Bermuda's first suggested it. And here's the crazy thing,
McElroy was actually fine with that.
She just simply wanted to move forward.
But Bermuda's actually told her,
referred to DEI hysteria, and made the comment about McElroy being a black woman
who worked at the New York Times.
And that's when it went on. were being a black woman who worked at the New York Times. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh.
And that's when it went on.
And what then ensued was absolute nonsense.
What then ensued, folks,
was some of the craziest things you've ever seen,
massive lies taking place,
and it leads to a million-dollar settlement with Kathleen McElroy.
So these folks actually thought that with their apology that that was good enough.
They thought with a million-dollar settlement that that was good enough. Here in their report,
these are the documents. They list the emails.
They list the emails. Everything in here.
All the emails in here. You name it.
All of this stuff. Her letter from her.
All of this stuff. Background. You name it. All of this stuff. Her letter from her. All of this stuff, background, you name it.
All of this stuff.
It's all in the report.
Now here's what's hilarious.
And I had an Aggie, some dude named Don.
Who the hell was he?
He sent me talking about how he was class of 59 and he did some research and he didn't
like her DEI background and we don't have a black army or white army, we got a US army.
Some dude named Don Parsons, some 86 year old white Aggie, sent me this email complaining.
I'm like, dude, I said, you don't know jack about journalism.
You don't jack about DEI.
What the hell are you talking about?
But see, here's what's so funny.
All these so-called conservatives in Texas,
hmm, fiscal conservatives,
y'all, they had to pay a settlement
to Kathleen McElroy of a million dollars.
Go to my iPad.
Y'all, this is what she was going to get paid.
First of all, they recommended a base salary of $150,000.
Let me tell y'all something, ain't no way in the hell
I'd take $150,000.
No way in hell.
Now, she was already at the University of Texas
making $196,000, okay?
So these fools had to pay her five times more money in a settlement than what she making
right now let me explain something y'all if they had paid her 196 000 salary they could have spent
a million dollars and had her for the next five years running the department taking advantage of
her expertise yet what they just did was waste a million dollars of taxpayer money
to have to pay a settlement.
I am a native Texan.
I still own my home in the Dallas area.
I'm still registered to vote there.
They wasted my money.
Mama and Daddy, still in Texas, taxpayers.
My brother, Texas, taxpayer.
My three sisters, Texas taxpayers.
Aunts and uncles and cousins and nieces and nephews,
they have wasted taxpayer money
because crazy, deranged white conservatives
lied about this woman.
And oh my God, they don't like DEI.
But y'all don't mind DEI on Saturdays.
Y'all don't mind those black five-star and four-star recruits running up and down the field.
Y'all don't mind DEI on the basketball court in March Madness.
Y'all didn't mind DEI on the golf team that just led to the semifinals for the women's golf championship.
Y'all don't mind DEI in sports, but now y'all got a problem with DEI.
But if you continue to go through, don't go yet, I'm going to pull this up.
Because if you start going through the documents, there are other things that you begin to see.
You begin to see and hear comments being made by certain people.
You begin to see what people's really, what their real position is and their real standing is when it comes to comments.
So let me do this for y'all because y'all are going to love this here.
What I'm about to show you are actual text messages that took place between two members
of the Texas A&M Boulder Regents.
Y'all, these are actual text messages.
And this is from Rusty Surrett on Twitter.
It says, text exchanges between Texas A&M Board of Regents
Jay Graham and David Baggett.
Graham wants the new journalism program at A&M
to turn out, quote, high-quality conservatives,
quote, to help direct our message.
First of all, show the Board of Regents.
You will see right there who they are.
You will see David Baggett and Jay Graham.
Yep, David Baggett and Jay Graham.
You see them right there.
So here they are.
And so they're busted.
So the text messages
are in the report.
So look at this here.
Hmm.
Some journalists with conservative
values into the market.
This won't
happen with someone
like this leading the department.
Listen to this idiot, David Baguette.
Now, again, y'all, this is a member of the Texas A&M Board of Regents. This is what he is saying to another member
of the Texas A&M
Board of Regents.
And let me just tell you
who David Baggett is.
Okay? Because
he is the managing partner
of Opportune LLP,
a leading global
business advisory firm
focused on adding value to clients across multiple industries with preeminence in energy.
He has more than 40 years of professional experience in the energy space.
None in journalism, none, none in media.
This is what he actually puts in the text message.
Based on limited info, I agree.
Time out.
You had limited info?
You remember the boy regions?
Oh, Jay Graham goes, they need to hear from all of us.
This is unacceptable and we can't allow it to happen.
Kathy told us multiple times the reason we were going to combine arts and sciences.
And it was cut off here is again because they were trying to get rid of liberals.
Oh, congrats, guys. Ready to kick some booty.
In regard to the info on journalism hire,
I sent this to John and Kathy.
Please tell me this isn't true,
but since it is not April Fool's Day,
I assume it is,
I thought the purpose of us starting a journalism department
was to get high-quality, aggy journalists
with conservative values into the market.
This won't happen with someone like this leading department.
Uh-oh.
Now you're busted.
Why is this important?
Because Jay Graham and David Baggett,
you're members of the Texas A&M Board of Regents.
You don't represent conservatives
in Texas.
You are supposed to
be members of the Board of Regents
for all
of the schools in the system,
including Prairie View.
What that means is
that these two individuals
who want to only
see conservative journalists are voting on
matters impacting Prairie View A&M University and HBCU.
What they are saying is we don't represent anybody in Texas who is liberal or progressive.
We only want to see conservative journalists.
First of all, that ain't got nothing to do with who, what, where, when, how, and why.
These two yahoos know nothing about journalism.
These comments right here should disqualify them from being on the Texas and on border
regions, and now I call for their resignations.
And this is where black Aggies and other Aggies of conscience should say,
these two people cannot represent Aggies,
cannot represent Texans on the Board of Regents,
because they have an ideological bent.
Now look, we all know Texas A&M is a conservative university.
But these two are basically saying we only want to see conservatives being taught at this school.
You've got more than 70,000 students in the Texas A&M University ecosystem.
We ain't even talking about the whole system.
Yet these two are busted in text messages saying this.
With limited info, I agree.
These folks need to go.
These folks cannot serve on this board with any distinction whatsoever and it is time for Texas A&M graduates
to have the guts to say they must go.
And who am I most disappointed in?
It's a whole lot of folk
who I am very disappointed in.
And you know who I'm disappointed in the most?
Not those two yahoos.
I'm disappointed in this man, this black man, Bill Mahomes, who became the first African
American chair of the Texas A&M Board of Regents.
And this entire sad affair, he has been quiet.
He's been saying nothing.
He's made no public comment.
Let me be clear.
Oh, he's aware of what's going on because I sent him text message before I did this segment.
And the same to Chancellor John Sharp.
And the same to others at Texas A&M.
Y'all want black folk out there repping the university.
Y'all love to see us wearing the jerseys and the hats.
You love to see Chris Middleton in the NBA.
You love to see Miles Garrett in the NFL.
You love to see Christian Kirk in the NFL. But what you're saying is we don't give a damn about black graduates if you
try to come back and work for the university.
And Bill Mayholmes, you ain't said nothing.
Bill Mayholmes, have you checked your fellow board members?
Bill Mahomes, have you told your fellow board members what their role and responsibility
is if they do not solely represent conservative interests?
In fact, Bill Mahomes, have you said there should not be an ideological bent in any conversations in the hiring of staff
in the hiring of faculty in the curriculum or any of that
you have said nothing.
You have disappointed
black former students.
You have disappointed Aggies
because leaders lead
and they don't stay quiet.
I'm speaking to somebody
who's a member of the Texas A&M Journalism
Ring of Honor.
I'm speaking to somebody who was honored
at the first black former student impact gala.
So when you show up at our black former student events, why are you doing so if you're going
to sit and be silent when these things happen?
That was a black former student who they disrespected and you, based upon the record, you have said
nothing publicly.
These two individuals, Graham and Baggett, must resign.
I am not satisfied with the million-dollar settlement. Those two must go from the Board of Regents,
and the pressure must be applied to put on them.
And so here's what we're going to do.
Every day, we are going to show you that phone number
to Senator Dick Durbin,
and every day, we are going to put the phone number and the email out of David Baggett and Jay Graham and going to call on this audience to let them know it's time for them to go.
Bill Mayholmes, the pressure's on you to stand up and lead.
The pressure's on you to come address black former students.
And I dare say right now, Chairman Bill Mahomes, you and Chancellor John Sharp need to call
a campus-wide meeting when school resumes to address this issue and you should specifically address black students at the university and
black former students.
And I'll say it again to any athlete who's considering Texas A&M, as long as those two
Board of Regents members remain and as long as Texas A&M does not fully address this issue,
I do not want to see any star athlete consider attending Texas A&M.
Sign letters of intent with other universities.
Trust me, if Texas A&M loses one five-star prospect,
loses one four-star prospect,
all of a sudden, somebody's going to wake up.
Because it's abundantly clear that all they give a damn about are black bodies earning
them millions on the football field and millions on the basketball court.
They don't care about black Texans or black Aggies anywhere else.
And just like those black football players in Mississippi said, I'm to boycott the president, the chancellor out
who happened to be the former president of Texas A&M.
Changes were made because the black athlete
used their power and leverage and influence.
I'm not
satisfied with an apology. I'm not satisfied with an apology.
I'm not satisfied with a million-dollar settlement.
More needs to be done to atone for this sordid affair.
And nothing can move forward unless these two folk show their photos, unless Jay Graham and David Baggett
resign from the Texas A&M Board of Regents.
They have made it clear as to what their ideological focus is, and it is not education, and it is not all Texans.
It is a partisan viewpoint, and they must go.
Comments from Julianne Malveaux,
first on Mocongo, then Renita.
Well, these folks, they don't belong on the board,
obviously, they have no business
mixing academia with their political or conservative views. Quite frankly, I think
that Bill Mahomes, he too needs to go. If he, as a Black man, he's on that board. Let's be clear,
Roland. He's partially on that board because he is African-American,
given that he has to stand up for African-American people. That includes the sister who they treated so badly, but it also includes the students. So for him to be silent in the face
of this disqualifies him as well. Now, the only argument I could give for keeping him would be
the devil you know versus the devil you don't, who they get instead. But university president gone,
trustees need to go. He needs to go. And you, as a Texas A&M alum, Aggie, I guess y'all call
yourselves. But as an alum, you deserve credit for shining light on this. A lot of people wouldn't.
Shining light on this and making it clear that this Black woman should not have been mistreated. She got her million dollars, but you're right,
a million dollars is not enough. It does not excuse the behavior, and there have to be
consequences for the behavior that transcend money.
Fongo?
I mean, you know, at what cost, white supremacy, right? I mean, at what cost? How much longer are people going to play these games and how much money are they willing to lose?
You're talking about a million dollars.
You're talking about more prestige, you know, loss to the university.
I remember when you first started talking about this role and you said you learned more in your journalism school and high school and the work that you were doing there and how the famous journalist there was like a country star before you got there.
So all of the work that you've done to build it and other people, and they just want
to throw all of that away because this woman worked for the New York Times. And one of the
things you also talked about, how they ignore, they do this to all of us and all of our professions,
ignore all of our other qualifications and single out one thing, that she worked for the New York
Times. I remember hearing Keith Ellison talking about in Minneapolis, they spent over $100 million in police brutality settlements and lawsuits and
the like. More money lost. You hear from Ron DeSantis, everything that they're doing. They're
about to lose AP courses, and more money is going to be lost. At what point are white people who are
part of these organizations and part of these companies are going to stand up and say, enough already.
They are suffering too.
Lyndon B. Johnson said, I learned at a young age,
if you can convince the poorest white person he's better than the best quote-unquote colored man,
he won't realize you're picking his pocket.
This is what's happening right now.
And more white people need to be standing with you
and with us and calling this nonsense out
because everybody's suffering
when you support this type of ignorance.
Who are they going to get to replace them?
You're talking about the athletes and other people who need to protest as they should.
Who's going to come and lead that department?
Who's going to have the credibility to lead that?
Those guys have to go.
And I think, Roland Martin, this is probably just the beginning as it relates to more text messages and the like.
Probably that whole border region is going to have to go once this is all said and done. Renita? When we first talked about this
story, I said that this needs to be investigated and that the board of regents needs to be
investigated to see if they had any dealings with this. I said that because I understand the powers
that the board of regents has in every state and the power that they have over universities.
As a former legislator, I'm
going to say this investigation should not be done, and here's why. In that report, when I heard
the phrase, we need to wait for this to happen until after legislative session is over, because
this is poor optics for the legislative session, to me, what that tells me as a former lawmaker is
that there are probably and likely legislators who were willing to abuse
their legislative power probably around funding for the university in reference to hiring this
person to work for the university. And that sounds petty. You say, oh, no, they probably
wouldn't lose funding in the budget over a decision to hire someone. But no, I've seen
legislators, at least in the Georgia legislature,
and all these legislatures are the same across the nation. What's happening is one frequently
happens in others. I have seen legislators openly talk about abusing legislative power for less than
making a hire that they would not have selected. So the next step of this really needs to be
to investigate, to find out,
were there legislators who were directly putting pressure
saying we will not get funding,
or we will reduce funding in the budget for your university
if you do not make hires that we deem
will help us advance our political ideology?
That's what really needs to happen.
Absolutely, and so folks, I'm telling you right now,
I'm not backing down from this.
You do not look. You don't see me wearing my Texas A&M ring.
I have worn my Texas A&M ring every single day since 1990 when I got it.
I'm not repping the university. My Texas A&M Journalism Ring of Honor has been removed from that mantle over there.
You are not going to see me wearing Texas A&M gear, carrying the golf bag.
Hell, I was playing golf the other day
at a Texas A&M golf ball in the bag.
Damn sure didn't play with it.
This is the whole thing right here.
I need black former students and other former students,
and I need black former student athletes
and other former athletes to also stand up.
I'm telling you right now,
here's what I know in this country, and I am purposely putting race on it because they targeted
this black woman because she was black. And as simple as this here, if you want to get the
attention of white folks in this country, especially white conservatives, you mess with
the money. And when black athletes say Texas A&M is off limits,
when black high school players say, I am not going to a university, but there is a hostile
atmosphere, if you are African-American or you're an African-American who dares to open your mouth,
or you're an African-American who's not conservative, then they will only pay attention.
And so I hope every parent of any player who is considering Texas A&M says no.
Says no.
We're not taking recruiting trips.
We're not going to visit the campus.
We're going to look other places If that gets out
Jimbo Fisher
Will run to the board of regents and say
What the hell are y'all doing
I cannot compete
And I guarantee you
Those same white conservatives
They'll be up in arms how dare they
But they don't want to go 5 and 7 again
And we all know
Texas A&M
And all the college football,
you can't win without black players. You know it and we know it. This is a moment
where we don't back down and where we fight. As my frat brother, Vertner Woodson Tandy said,
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Alright y'all
So I'm in Birmingham
For the NABJ convention
7am
My phone goes off
Man have you seen
What happened in Montgomery, Alabama,
which is right down the street from Birmingham.
So apparently a
black security guard
was trying to arrange
boats as terms of them docking.
And so
this one boat, the folk did
not want to
move their boat.
So this black guy tried to actually do it.
And all of a sudden, several white men began to brutally
attack him. And man,
they did not see the black
54th coming. They didn't see
it was a scene out of glory. They didn't see it was a scene out of glory. They didn't see
it was the 761st Battalion of Patton's Army.
All of a sudden, brothers and sisters came
out of nowhere, and it wasn't nothing but a bunch
of Nat Turners left and right, swinging left and right.
Rotate!
That guy in the white shirt is the crew from our little dinner cruise boat.
He got off our ship to go over there to move that black pontoon boat on his own
because those guys who parked there were told not to leave it there,
and they left it there.
So he's just left it there.
So he's just pushing it off. That's fun.
Tick matters in do's own hands. I love it.
I hope the police give them a big old ticket.
Ooh, confrontation with the owner of the boat. Thank you. Hey! Can I get the food and water, okay? Hey! I know that's right.
Wait till we get out this way, we got this motherfucking boat.
Those guys are all tired.
We are about to throw your ass in the water.
We are about to throw your ass in the water.
We are about to throw your ass in the water.
We are about to throw your ass in the water.
I did it.
Get your fuck ass away!
I did it. Move it! Get the fuck out the way!
Move it! Get out the way!
Get out the way!
Move it! Get out the way!
Get out the way!
Get out the way!
Move it! Get out the way!
Get out the way!
So here's what's going on.
There are people who are on a boat watching this thing take place.
They're shooting on this particular boat.
So while they're watching this whole deal, they're recording the entire argument.
You see these folks, all the security guards.
Now, leave the audio up.
Security guards are all in his face.
They're watching this.
The next thing you know, all of a sudden, the fight is
about to ensue. And then this thing takes off like crazy. Now, mind you, his job is to make sure how
the boats are being placed in there. These people dared to get an attitude because he started moving
the boat. That's why they upset. And so you see all
the pointing going back and forth. You see the arguing going back and forth. No respect
for him whatsoever as a security guard. They want to do whatever it is they want to do.
And all of a sudden, this thing about to get real physical real soon. In about 30 seconds.
And when this thing goes off, oh, man, that's when stuff gets real wild.
And you see, multiple people are coming up to him.
And he's explaining to one guy and the next guy and the next guy and the next guy.
They don't care.
They're not listening.
They don't care whatsoever They're not listening. They don't care whatsoever.
Then this happens.
Go full screen. Thank you. Oh, my God.. Y'all! Y'all! Y'all! What's up? Y'all were talking a minute ago.
Y'all!
Woo! Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
Woo!
Look at him!
Woo!
All right. Y'all about to see something
right real quick.
They whooping on these dudes.
You're going to see in a moment where guy in the red short,
he wants to avoid all these brothers.
He jumps into the water to avoid them.
You got folks running through.
They getting cold cocked.
Watch this.
Uh-oh, oh damn, oh hell.
They start backing off.
Amanda Redd sure start getting in the water.
Now it's going to be a white woman in a red dress.
She wants to get in on this.
The brothers don't want to hit her.
And then two sisters come scrolling through saying, yo, we got it.
We got it.
Getting their ass.
Oh, look at the bras.
The bras jumping their ass.
Because y'all were wrong for jumping on that black man like that, baby.
Look here, I thought what's going on.
They putting their ass in the water, y'all.
Boo out. Boo out their ass in the water. Yeah. Maybe please.
Yeah.
Look at the man there waving. He was the one that got jumped on.
Don't cry though.
And let go back, time to go back.
I bet y'all won't try that shit no more.
All my mamas, them motherfuckers need to have handcuffs on and they'll need a cross.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go.
I'm not gonna let you go. I'm not gonna let you go. I'm not gonna let you go. I my mamas, these motherfuckers need to have handcuffs on.
And they'll need to cry now.
These are the ones that started it.
Y'all need to put handcuffs on them.
Why are they down there fucking crying?
These are the ones that need to have handcuffs on right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, That's what you get, all that ass. All that ass. All on. I ain't got shit on me.
All that ass.
Hey, all on.
They ain't got no cuffs.
They ain't got no cuffs.
Eh, uh-uh, all that motherfucking ass.
All them cuffs on me.
Cuz they should have did that.
The man with the white shirt on, they jumped on him.
Right there, right here. All of them on, they jumped on him. Right there, right here.
All of them.
All of them jumped on him.
Baby, all of them, all of them.
That shit was crazy.
You were in the water, you were in the water.
You should have done that.
I'm all right, I'm all right.
Man, we were waiting to get on the boat.
The man right here.
He worked here.
He hopped on the paddle boat to come over here and tell them they was all over here.
And they had kept telling them to move that boat, but the Harriet couldn't dock.
He got on the boat.
When he got off, all these white people, they jumped on him.
Jumped on him.
They jumped on him.
We was in the beat they ever get when the boat got off.
So when the boat, yeah, when the boat got off, you know, they came on that, yeah.
They jumped on that man right there.
I ain't gonna lie.
They started that. You saying the white guys jumped on the boat? Yeah. They jumped on that. I ain't gonna lie, they started that. You're saying the white guys
jumped on the boat? Yeah!
He worked here. He was just telling you
to move their personal boat so the Marriott
could dock. Cause we waiting to get on
the 50 cycle and they keep circling
around and they couldn't get off.
He moved their damn
boat and that's when they came down
there and jumped on the damn man.
That's where they came from.
Witnesses.
What?
Just for a statement, you ain't talking about your brother.
Yeah, they jumped on him.
They shouldn't even be arresting him.
They shouldn't even be arresting him.
He shouldn't even be arrested.
They jumped on him.
He wasn't doing shit for his job.
And
they don't need to cry now cuz you were jumping on him too, baby. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I got video.
Anybody got video?
Anybody got video?
We're waiting on the ball.
Baby, we're waiting on the...
We're waiting on the synthesizer.
Ma'am, you got a video?
Huh?
You got a video?
Don't transform. All right, so I want y'all to see.
You see this white woman, she come running down right there in the white.
Then all of a sudden, she jump in there.
She about to end up in the water.
Watch. That sister's dragging her up. She now in the white. Then all of a sudden, she jump in there. She about to end up in the water. Watch.
That sister's dragging her.
Oh, she now in the water.
Hey, I told y'all what was going down.
This thing got crazy.
This thing got crazy.
You had chairs that were flying as well.
Let me tell you something.
It was unbelievable.
Again, social media has completely,
completely blown up. If I type in chair right now in Twitter, I guarantee you this video here is
coming up. Look right here, y'all. There have been folks sitting here taking pictures with the chairs.
They were sitting here. I mean, all of that, you've seen.
Here's another angle of folk swinging.
They were not playing around in this battle in Montgomery that took place at the riverfront.
And it was just, again, unbelievable.
And look, the mains have been flying left and right. Somebody put this tweet up,
the National Museum of African American History and Culture already got the Battle of Montgomery
chair on display. That's one of the memes. Roll the next one, y'all. Come on. Come on, let's go.
Here we go. Guns down, chairs up. We've seen that one. Keep going.
Keep going.
Try that in a small town.
Bloody Saturday, Montgomery.
This brother already got a photo
of the bra on a t-shirt
and already
selling the shirt.
And he says, on my way
to Cracker Barrel to celebrate.
Alright, let's go to the next one.
You got the photos of George Floyd, MLK, Rosa Parks, and Malcolm X on this image here.
Keep going.
We got this one right here.
Bat signal and help came immediately.
My man threw his hat in the air, and a cavalry came running.
All right, next, let's go.
Have a seat, 1955. Drop the's go. Have a seat, 1955.
Drop the lower third.
Have a seat, 1955 in Montgomery.
Have a seat, 2023.
Let's go to the next one, y'all.
Let's go.
More memes here.
Keep going, keep going.
Keep going.
We see that not the SS dead ass pulled up in Montgomery.
We got that one right there.
Keep going.
What's the next meme?
They're calling homeboy Aquaman.
Guess what?
We actually got a statement.
That brother right there already has a publicist.
Do y'all have the graphic up from his publicist
heartfelt gratitude from the publicist of our hero
y'all have it go pull it up we hope this message
finds you well and filled with joy as we come together to celebrate the remarkable
act of bravery and compassion shown by Aaron
our cherished young hero while I'm reading y'all got the video
of him swimming across that water
in the face of adversity Aaron selflessly came to the rescue of a fellow colleague,
showcasing courage beyond his years.
We are immensely proud of his actions and the values he exemplifies,
standing as an inspiration to us all.
Show the video of him swimming.
The overwhelming love and support pouring in from all corners of the state
and surrounding areas have deeply touched Aaron.
Your kindness and encouragement have shown him the power of unity and the warmth of a
caring community.
The outpouring of affection serves as a reminder that together we can create positive change
and uplift one another.
We, the publicist team, his parents, along with here's a video of Aaron doing his thing,
going across that water.
Go right, come on, y'all pull it up.
We, the publicist team, his parents, along with his extended family, want to extend our
sincerest gratitude to each and every one of you for your unwavering support during
this time.
Your messages and gestures of appreciation have not gone unnoticed, and they have left
a lasting impact on Aaron and his family.
As we navigate the journey ahead, we kindly request the anonymity for Aaron
to process and reflect on the whirlwind of emotions he's experiencing.
We assure you that he will continue being a force for good in the world.
Once again, thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
Let's continue to spread love, kindness, and compassion,
and together we can make a difference.
Makena Lachey is the publicist for that brother right there.
Let's go back to some of the memes.
I'm telling you, the tweets, the Instagram posts, the social media posts,
y'all have been absolutely crazy, hilarious.
Folks have been saying Juneteenth has a new date.
These black folks here cracked me up, and black and white folks.
They did an actual reenactment, y'all.
These black and white folks did a reenactment.
They already done.
They already put, with the audio.
With the audio.
I want y'all to watch the brother swimming.
He gonna get out the pool.
He gonna start wringing out his shirt.
I'm telling y'all,
folks have not wasted any time whatsoever.
Y'all, they even got, listen, look y'all, they even dropped brawl training videos.
And this sister here, I can't make it up.
Watch this.
You're going back! You're going back! You're going back! You're going back!
This stuff just really, really pisses me off, right?
Because all this really does is ignore and erases
the disabled kids that want to participate, right?
So what you're gonna want to do, right...
If you have a crutch, you're gonna take your crutch,
you're gonna put your hand at the middle,
you're gonna use your elbow like a fulcrum,
then from one side to another.
You see the momentum?
Yeah.
Okay.
Next step is make it more accessible and inclusive.
She said let's make it more inclusive.
Oh my God, that was too much.
Okay, all right.
I came across this one here, y'all.
Oh, dang, what happened to it?
Okay, y'all, I got to show y'all this here.
My man has already put out, it's called, he's called Song A Day Man.
It's called The Ballad of the Montgomery Brawl.
The Ballad of the Montgomery Brawl. The Ballot of the Montgomery Brawl.
Now listen.
Oh, come on.
Oh, come on.
Down to the Montgomery Brawl.
Swim and run, skip and crawl
Just get yourself to the Montgomery Brawl
Cause slaves were disembarked there
Right on that same pier
The misplaced white entitlement
Trickles down through the year. But acts of solidarity
will not fixing all the past. Take on waves of meaning like kicking southern ass.
Pride comes before the fall
Down at the Montgomery Brawl
Speeding headfirst to a brick wall
Fuck around, find out at the Montgomery Brawl
There's no happy endings.
There's no recompense.
Just reflections of the times we live that make no fucking sense.
But you can feel those punches and the men slam to the ground.
The triumph of the human spirit as the chair comes crashing
down heat wave summer squall
down at the montgomery brawl Montgomery Brawl Form up, stand tall
Just get yourself to the Montgomery Brawl
Swim, run and skip and crawl
Fuck around, find out at the Montgomery Brawl.
Just get yourself to the Montgomery Brawl.
I'm telling y'all, okay, and here's how crazy it is, y'all.
Seriously, folk been sitting here.
Matter of fact, brother here had to go ahead and respond to Jason Aldean.
Listen.
Try the small town.
Okay.
They said y'all tried it.
This is what happened.
Okay.
All right.
Okay. This was too funny. They said,'all tried it. This is what happened. Okay. All right. Okay.
This was too funny.
They said, this is how them boys in Montgomery pulled up.
Avengers!
Assemble.
I told y'all.
Yo, yo, we playing all over y'all.
Okay, hold up.
Okay, hold up.
Okay.
This is a great tweet.
Black Twitter watching the Montgomery Brawl.
Go.
I'm rooting for everybody black.
I am. Betting on black tonight. I'm rooting for everybody black. I am.
Betting on black tonight.
I'm rooting for everybody black.
All right, let's see here.
Oh, I got a couple more.
Okay, this is how stupid it is, y'all.
People are literally texting me saying, play this one.
Okay, hold up.
I got to find.
Oh, let me do this here.
Okay, because there were some comments made.
So Stephen Reed is the mayor.
Do y'all have the mayor's statement?
Y'all have it in the control room?
Okay, pull it up, please.
The mayor of Montgomery, he's the first black mayor in Montgomery's history.
Stephen Reed issued this statement. He said last night the Montgomery Police Department acted swiftly to detain several reckless individuals for attacking a man who was doing his job.
Warrants are being signed and justice will be served.
This was an unfortunate incident which never should have occurred.
As our police department investigate these intolerable actions, we should not become desensitized to violence of any kind in our community.
Those who choose violent actions will be held accountable by our criminal justice system.
Now, the folks who were involved in this, y'all, they actually, all the folks out are
out.
People have been sending information, talking about the, asking questions about the Montgomery
Bell Project.
They said that individuals, everybody is actually out of jail,
so no one is still in jail.
So there's no need to send resources as well.
Again, this here, let me see here.
Do y'all have it up?
Let me see if I can try.
I'm trying to switch.
I got some stuff that's on my phone that people are sending me that I want to show y'all.
Let's see.
Here's a great photo here.
Hold on.
Let me see if I can pull this down.
Folks literally took the photo, took this here.
Why this brother here?
Get the photo of the chair, the image of Malcolm X holding an AK-47
by the window.
This brother took a picture with him holding a chair by the window looking out.
Okay, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
Okay.
All right, let's see here.
I saw some other videos, y'all, that have been making me holler and scream.
Let's see here.
I got to play this one.
Give me one second.
Give me one second.
Oh, this is a pretty good one here.
Somebody took the photo from good times, and they went to work.
So you see right here, they got the Alabama Sweet Tea Party.
That's what it's called.
They got all the people in the photo sitting there dancing.
Come on back.
Come on back.
All right, let me see here.
All right, let's see if I can find something else.
Let's see here.
Oh my God.
There are some other hilarious videos that I have seen.
This one here is truly funny.
Let me go, maybe I can go to the beginning. All right, pull it up.
Alabama bro, honey, is it because I am an Alabamian or is it because I own a watercraft
myself? Here's the deal. Y'all got what y'all deserve. Did you really think you was going to
put your hands on somebody that was out there doing their damn job, not just to keep you safe,
but to keep everybody safe at that dock?'s the problem people get out there and start
drinking out there on the water and come back and they done got they done got big and bad all right
but you met the wrong one that day honey you met the wrong one that day because there was people
in places that needed to be put and they got put in their place you get up on my face i can't
guarantee what's gonna happen to you neither now Now, I don't condone violence, but that right there, y'all got a show put on y'all.
And that's y'all's damn fault.
Don't get up in nobody's damn face acting like you're gonna tell somebody what you're
gonna do on his dime, on his damn dime.
All right, that's what's wrong with y'all.
Y'all get out there on the water and you act crazy and come back and got that wet.
Did y'all see that one man's Crocs?
Lord, it look like his Crocs got his ass whipped.
Oh, well.
I don't know why everybody wants me to talk about this
Alabama brother. Oh, yeah, I'm petty.
Okay, all right, let's see here.
I'm real petty.
Oh, yeah, y'all saw the photo.
A man had some Crocs. They beat the Crocs
off his ass. Look at this here.
Lord have mercy.
Y'all, they beat the Crocs off of his ass. That is
hilarious. All right, check this out. I just got this text message right here.
Go to my iPad. It says, oh, I'm ready.
Just check the garage. And they got a chair
hanging in the garage. Somebody actually, somebody worked with a company.
They sent me that. They said one of their
co-workers sent that to them.
All right, hold up.
I got another,
I got another video.
All right,
Jamal Bryant,
Jamal Bryant posted this one.
I hollered when I saw this one
because you know people
got all the videos.
Check this out.
Go, go, go.
Audio, come on.
People on this list.
Post and bail for 125 people.
Is there a problem?
Just a minute.
There's some guy out there who wants to post bail on everybody we popped at that after-hours joint.
Well, who is he?
I don't know. Some fancy-colored guy.
He's probably some nut.
Tell him how much it'll cost cost him it'll probably run off scared
okay let's see 125 class a minor will be about
75
75 Oh, man.
I'm telling y'all, they are killing with all of the videos, the memes.
Let's see here. There's another video that i saw that uh
i thought uh was hilarious uh go to my go play it i was absolutely hilarious
oh y'all really let jason aldean gas your heads up huh that was your first mistake you don't take
fighting tips from a fake cowboy who wears bedazzled skinny jeans.
I love to see it. You know those idiots were on the boat all day listening to that song on repeat.
I can't wait. I can't wait, Bubba, till they try that in a small town. We'll show them.
I've never seen a song taken away from a group of people so quickly in my life.
You had a month. You had a good run.
Oh, and I already know what the comments are going to say in this video.
How could you celebrate violence? Both sides were wrong.
You're causing a divide. Why can't we all just get along?
Do you know why there's so much glee and happiness and celebration after this brawl?
Because the scenario never ends this way.
And we've seen that one too many times where a group of angry white men go to attack an
innocent black man.
And in this case, an innocent black man who was just trying to do his fucking job.
This isn't how the story usually ends.
And that deserves to be celebrated.
So you think about that before you say some shit like that.
And understand why people are happy
and people are celebrating.
So, Mr. Aldean, it's time to whip out your notebook and pencil
and write a new anthem.
Anyways, bye.
What happened in Montgomery?
Tell y'all, we didn't have that particular angle.
Remember when the white woman who was in the red dress,
she came in there like swinging,
and the brother, they kind of started like,
nah, ain't about to sit here and hit this woman.
But then the sister was like, don't worry about it, bro.
We got this here.
So let me go ahead and pull that clip up, all right?
Play.
Play. go ahead and pull that clip up all right play And listen, I'm telling y'all,
y'all, this thing has been crazy literally for the last 48 hours.
I don't know.
I've been watching the reactions
of Julian, Renita, and
Omokongo. Omokongo,
I'm going to start with you. This thing
has been lit, and folk
have been having a field day
with the Montgomery Brawl.
Man,
you know, it's like everybody said.
It's like not condoning violence, but
everybody has the right to self-defense.
And, you know, really, the end of the day, the solidarity was amazing.
I don't want to be like pouring, I don't know, I don't know, sadness on all of this.
But I just get concerned about, you know, what could have happened if one of those guys on the boat had a gun in an open carry state.
Like, this could have been a lot worse.
And I'm concerned about the legal troubles.
You know, there was one of the brothers who hit the white
woman with a chair, and what's going to happen?
You know, should have got arrested for that.
But at the end of the day, you know,
people, young, this is a
different generation. And Joe Madison talks about
this all the time. It's like, the days of
having to sit back and take it are over, you know?
And you've shown weeks.
Every week you got videos like this of people going nuts
and Black folks standing up for themselves.
And if people are gonna go down,
folks have decided we're gonna go down swinging.
And this was a classic and latest example of that.
I'm just glad nobody was strapped
and that this didn't end up a lot worse.
And, you know, Jemichael Phelps
did his thing.
They called him Jemichael.
Jemichael.
That was amazing, man. That was
amazing. But I'm glad it didn't turn out
worse.
But the thing here, Renita,
the thing here, Renita, is this here.
And I'm going to say this, and again, this is not glorifying.
It's people like, oh, man, y'all making light of it.
No, we have shown now for multiple years black folks barbecuing,
a little black girl selling lemonade,
a black man with his car one inch in the crosswalk,
a black man at FedEx and a black man at UPS
trying to deliver packages, getting shot at,
getting threatened, getting cussed out,
having the cops call on him.
Black folks have been, black man looking at some damn birds
in Central Park, and the white woman
threatening to call the cops.
Black people have been just doing their jobs,
going about their regular black lives,
and they be, hell, we just showed the black guy
in a neighborhood, they gonna leave his ass alone fishing.
I mean, like, they have called the cops.
And so people need to understand,
black people are tired of being mistreated
by white folks in this country, and guess what? They ran up against a
brother and didn't realize, oh, they thought, oh, it's five or six of us. We can beat him down.
No, the black posse came rolling through. Absolutely. And listen, not all lynchings
have to happen with ropes. They were trying to lynch that black man by jumping on him
and beating him, all of those people. And like you said, they thought it was just going to be them
and they were going to be able to do this and there would be no consequences. But those people
got every single thing that they earned from those black people. And you can call it condoning
violence. I really don't care. They got everything that day that they earned. And so I'm glad that the community
did come together to literally save this black man's life and also probably taught these folks
a valuable lesson. Don't try it. So, you know, they all gave him something to work with and I
am here for it. Absolutely. Um, Julianne. Well, you know, I have been cracking up.
But anyway, right on to the black people who came together.
Shame on those crazy white boys who, as the girl said, they clearly had been drinking.
They had been doing something because what would possess them?
Just move your damn boat.
All you had to do was move your boat.
It didn't have to be a thing.
The man was just doing his job.
Black folks have had enough. Lots of black folks are standing up.
And it felt good to watch Roland, I have to tell you.
I'm not condoning violence, well, whatever.
But it felt good to watch black folks coming together
and fighting back.
And basically that young brother
who swam across the thing, you know,
get him on the show. Let's hear from him.
Let's hear from some of these folks who are there and right on to the
sisters. I mean,
that brother showed enormous restraint and not clocking the, you know,
what out of that white woman, the red dress on, but the sisters had that.
He was trying to be chivalrous. I don't know why, but the sisters
had that, and when I saw that sister kicking,
again, I'm not applauding
violence much.
Bottom line
is, they catered to that man's defense.
And I've seen other videos
where white folks
have been attacked, football games,
drunk folks, and folks came to their
defense. That's what this was. And folks, and folks came to their defense,
that's what this was. And if they did not come to his defense, they were going to beat
the hell out of that brother. But I got to play one more video. I got to play one more.
Here you all go.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen, it's your boy, King J. Wells. Today I want to teach you one
of the moves that I saw in the fight video. The key to having the best chair smack is leverage.
Hands here, grip here, and then it's more like a,
you know how you, like what is called ring around the Rosie?
You just wanna come up to here, then back up to here.
So we're gonna try it again in slow motion here.
Matter of fact, let's watch the video.
Let's see how he did.
Okay, so now it was more like a this.
Then you pop a bitch.
So it's like, let's do it fast.
You ready?
Let's do it fast again.
You ready?
You see my foot?
You see?
The main thing is the grip and the feet, hands.
What you say, bitch?
Yeah.
So there you go. Hello, ladies and gentlemen. I'm sorry. Hey, bitch? Yeah. So there you go.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm sorry.
Hey, y'all.
Hey, I don't care what you say.
I think I got to play one more.
And I think I got to play one more.
I think there may be two more.
But there was one, let me try to find it, that had me hollering.
Now, I'm going to let Kenan know, because, you know, YouTube may put a block on us showing this video because of music rights.
But I just, I cannot help myself.
Hold on, let me see if I can, let me try to get my,
get my screen share straight.
Y'all check this out.
Look, black folk been real busy today with these videos.
Stephanie Mills sent this one out, listen. Listen. I was born by the river
In a little tent
Oh, and just like the river I've been running
Ever since
It's been a long, a long time coming
But I know a change gonna come
Oh, yes it will
It's been too hard living
But I'm afraid to die
I told y'all I'm petty
Alright okay
Let me find this other one that I saw I told y'all I'm petty. All right, okay.
Let me find this other one that I saw.
Oh, man, where is it?
Oh, damn, this is a good one.
I just got my open carry license.
Come on.
Okay.
All right, come back.
Okay.
All right.
Oh, this was trending for a while there.
This was trending right there.
Scuba Gooding Jr.
Come back, come back, come back.
That was trending for a while.
Scuba Gooding Jr.
Let me see here.
Okay.
Y'all, there's one more I saw.
Oh, man, did I post it?
Where is it?
This one brother, y'all, he had a play-by-play of this here video.
The play-by-play was fire. Oh, my God.
I was crying laughing.
I'm going to try to see if I can find it. And again, I'm going to kind of...
The reason I think
black people have just been so...
have been responding just
no chill. I mean, I'm talking about
no chill at all.
It's because
we have tolerated
so much shit.
We have turned our cheek.
We have backed up.
We've de-escalated situations.
We've had these Karens
jumping in black folks' faces
and all this sort of stuff. And folk
just tired of that BS.
Absolutely.
And to be quite honest, we are going to see
more of it. I mean, everything that's going on
in the political space and the like.
And, you know, some of these guys actually think they've been deputized by the police or something.
So they feel emboldened to just put their hands on us and they're not even strapped. They just feel
so emboldened to black bodies that they can do that. This man is an employee. And like we all
said, what would have happened if they didn't, if people didn't jump in? I mean, they could have
beat him up so badly and just could have fell into the water and drowned.
And this is happening everywhere, every single place we go.
People who are not even law enforcement, it's like they've been emboldened watching those videos with the police and so on and so forth,
to feel that they can do anything to us anytime, anywhere.
And too many, too many of us are saying enough. I can't think of anybody,
any black person I know who would not have intervened in that situation because we're
just tired of it. And people have been watching a lot of these videos from, you know, like the
six season stuff with so many of our people had to take it. And they think that that's just going
to repeat itself. And that is just, it's just ain't real anymore. Absolutely, Renita.
And let me also remind people, while a lot of folks have been commenting,
this is the same state as we speak that's trying to keep a black second congressional district out of black folks' hands as well.
So we ain't just catching hands on the river.
We catching hands in the legislature.
Right. And you know what?
I bet the part where you mentioned about how this is the first black mayor
of Montgomery, I bet you that
has something to do with tensions
probably rising in the area. And it's a white
lash that we always... Yeah, Donald Trump was there Saturday
night. Right, exactly.
And it's a white lash that we always talk about. First
black mayor of Montgomery? Come on.
We know what that means. And tonight, there's a white lash that we always talk about. First black mayor of Montgomery? Come on. Like, we know what that means.
And tonight, there's a canvas form.
At the end of the day, all that happened is Jason Aldean let these Jim Crow relic throwbacks get mollywhopped.
He walked them right into getting mollywhopped.
That's what happened.
Julianne.
I love it.
I mean, the mayor is a relatively young brother.
He's very good.
I've met him a couple of times.
He's really on the ball.
So he managed to put out a nice statement that just basically said no room for violence.
But, you know, the statements that have been powerful are these videos you're showing,
the things that people have to say, the lessons about how to use a chair as a weapon.
Black folks have had enough. They really
have had enough. And I've seen too many older Black people, my mom, my grandmother, swallow
in the face of this kind of ignorance, swallow it. I remember my grandmother once, this woman
made her move her car. And I was like, Grandma Rose, it was like maybe 67. I was like, oh,
hell no, Grandma Rose, don't move your car. But she rather didn't get into it with a white woman.
She moved her car.
And, you know, I had a can of you know what, but I was a kid.
But in any case, I've seen too many black people have to swallow.
What these folks are saying is we're not swallowing the spit anymore.
We're not swallowing it.
And good for them, good for the community for coming together.
It feels good to watch.
It just really feels good to say,
this time we stood up.
Absolutely.
And it is great that that happened.
And just so folks know,
this is only so fitting.
And maybe I will end the show with this one,
which I think is a great,
I think this is probably the most appropriate way
to end the show
by showing you this important historical fact
that the person who patented the folding chair
was a black man.
Nathaniel Alexander from Lynchburg, Virginia patented the folding chair was a black man. Nathaniel Alexander from Lynchburg, Virginia
patented the
folding chair. According to his
patent, Nathaniel Alexander designed his chair
to be used in schools, churches, and
other auditoriums. His design
included a book rest that was usable for the person
sitting in the seat behind. It was ideal
for church or choir use.
Below you can view the patent drawing of
Nathaniel Alexander's folding chair. We now now know Nathaniel as you are an ancestor, your chair has been used
to whoop ass on the riverboat, on the docks where black slaves were sold in Montgomery,
Alabama.
Some stuff just come full circle.
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