#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Andrew Brown Jr. independent autopsy; DHS review to root out white supremacy; AZ GOP sham recount

Episode Date: April 28, 2021

4.27.21 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Andrew Brown Jr. independent autopsy released; Shot in a church? Parents of Fred Cox, Jr. speak out on the killing of their son at the hands of a High Point detective; DHS conducts internal review to root out white supremacy in it's ranks; Pres. Biden announces new guidance for wearing masks; Arizona Republicans conduct sham recount of the 2020 election; Georgia staffers refuse to cooperate with a probe into Trump's efforts to influence the 2020 election; Georgia rappers Young Thug and Gunna posted bail for 30 inmates because of overcrowding. Support #RolandMartinUnfiltered via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered or via PayPal ☛https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered#RolandMartinUnfiltered is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The best you know, he's Roland Martin. Yeah. Folks, it has been six days since days since Andrew Brown, since he was shot and killed here in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. You see, we were at the spot where he was shot and killed. You see what they have done is they have actually placed these candles out here where it says Drew. This is his home right here. Folks, the answers are still not forthcoming as to exactly what is going on, what caused the sheriff's deputies to shoot and kill Andrew Brown Jr. No one knows yet.

We're still trying to figure that out. Here's the fundamental problem. The county, the district attorney, the sheriffs, they still are not talking with anyone. They still are not communicating with the family. Today, there was a news conference here in Elizabeth City. In this particular news conference, where the attorneys for the family,

they talked about the independent autopsy that was conducted on behalf of the family and laid those results out. But still, folks, we have not heard from the district attorney. We don't even know who's leading this investigation, if an investigation has even started, if the deputy sheriffs, if they have actually been interviewed, here's a roundup from today's news conference. We commissioned a private individual autopsy report, post-mortem report, because we don't have access to anything that's official. And what our preliminary autopsy report shows is that there were five penetrating bullet

wounds to the body of Andrew Brown Jr. Now consistent with what you have probably already heard is that the first initial shots were through the front windshield of the vehicle that he was located in at the time that... Hold on one second. They're trying to do some balance on us. What you probably heard already and you heard yesterday when Ms. Lassiter gave her presentation of what she saw on the video yesterday was that Mr. Brown had his arms up on the steering wheel of the vehicle that he was then located in. And what happened was that

there were five, four bullet wounds, excuse me, four bullet wounds to his right arm. These bullet wounds, according to the autopsy, were more or less glancing shots. They were not fatal shots. So he was able to back up as these shots were coming into the vehicle. He was able to back up, turn the vehicle around, spin off across a vacant lot. And at that time, he was hit in the back of the head here. And that is the fatal bullet wound that was described in the death certificate as a penetrating bullet wound to the skull. And that was the cause of death. That was the manner of death by gunshot. So we now know because we have not been able to get any official documentation concerning this shooting that this in fact was a fatal wound to the back of Mr. Brown's head as he was leaving the site trying to evade being shot at by these particular law enforcement officers who we believe did nothing but a straight out execution by shooting him in the back of his head as he was trying practice to shoot into a moving vehicle

to a person who posed no threat whatsoever to the officers then and there on the scene. So in summary, his death was caused by these officers with a bullet wound to the back of his head that caused him to lose control of that vehicle and crash into a tree. And I think once the video actually comes out, we're going to also find out that there were shots into that vehicle after it crashed into the tree and after he had been hit in the back of the head. The certificate also says that the time of death was within minutes, within minutes after this particular gunshot wound to the back of the head. Folks, if you see exactly what is going on here, again, Henry, go to this, go to the drone shot.

So folks, what you're seeing is an overhead shot right now, uh, of, uh, this scene here. And what you're seeing, what you're seeing right here is you can actually, uh, see the tire tracks. And so you can see me down here. These are the tire tracks, uh, that are right here. Here we come back to me. So folks, this is what he was describing where I'm standing. Literally, uh, Andrew Brown jr. was pointed in that particular direction right there. Let's actually go back to the drone shot. What you'll see, folks, is you see where the black truck is. The police came down that particular street and they pulled up where our tent is, where our Roland Martin unfiltered tent is. And according to the attorney who just saw it, that was a tent.

Okay. Then they parked right there. You can come back to me. Brown was literally in this spot where I am standing in his vehicle when they came in. And so what then happened was shots began to get fired. What they then did was he tried to run away. Let's go back to the drone shot. What you'll see is you'll see the

tire marks. You see the tire marks where he basically backed up. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to bring the drone down so you can actually see even more so these particular tire marks to understand exactly what took place. And so you see right here, you can actually see visibly where you have those double tracks right there. Okay so you see right here, you can actually see visibly where you have those double tracks right there. Okay. You see those double tracks where he basically spun out in that direction. That's why you see the mud splattered up against the wall. And then of course, and then he came out and then what he then did was he drove across the street. So just to give you this particular vantage point, I'm going to do this here.

Here, you can come back to me. I'm going to spin this drone around so people can actually see from this particular perspective right here. I'm going to show this here. And so this, let me go pull up here. Okay, it's all good. Just get the drone shot. So here's what I'm going to do.

I'm going to spin it around. And so this is the direction right here you will see. So he went in this direction right here, and that's the home of Michael Gordon. I got it wrong yesterday. So he told me, he said, you got to get it right. And so basically what Drew did was, and let me just sort of simulate this, folks, for you if we will. And that is he was basically coming in this direction.

He was basically coming in this direction. Then all of a sudden, his car was coming across here. His car is coming across here. They continue to fire the shots. That is the home right there of Mr. Michael Gordon. And then the bullets went into the home there. And then you will see it went right. And then this is where right here is where Andrew Brown ended up.

His car crashed into that particular tree right there. And, folks, that's when that's exactly where he died. Now, what we also want to show you is this here. There was a police camera. There was a police camera. I'm going to bring this back. Sorry, folks. We've got some cars that are coming.

I don't want our drone to get hit. And the drone just got hit. But we'll fix that. We'll fix that. Yeah, I know the car was coming. Anthony, go get the drone. Take care of it. Yeah, literally just got hit.

Just got hit there. So here's the deal, folks. So here's what happened. Okay, so here's what happened here. Okay, so here's what happened here. Okay, there's a police camera. There's a police camera. There's a city camera that is sitting up here.

There's a city camera that is sitting up here. That city camera, that city camera captured what took place here. The problem is the sheriff, they now have the camera. We've been trying to get access to that particular video, have not been able to get access. We put in a freedom. We put in a freedom of request form for that video. We put a freedom of request form for that video, We put a freedom of request form for that video, have not been able to get the video just yet. So that's what we're doing. Okay. So right now,

we're going to do this here. After today's news conference, what we did was we talked with the attorneys specifically about what was going on. We talked with them about what this case, what's going on, what's happening to get a better understanding. Several of these attorneys. This is our conversation. Folks, the thing that still just is stuck out on me, I cannot recall all the cases I've covered. Virtually no comment from a D.A., county commissioners, sheriff, no release of information, nothing from the communications people, nothing. Is this a shock to you? No, it's not a shock.

To my understanding, the district attorney is running for a superior court judge. He's playing politics. He's trying to play both hands, but he's failing miserably. He gave us an indication, Attorney Lassner and us, that the family will have an opportunity to see this video, complete video, no redaction. He fell on that promise. He absolutely fell on that promise. He has been radio silence thus far. But he did put out something yesterday, his launching of his campaign for Superior Court judge.

But for this crisis in his county, radio solids. I'm totally in agreement. He has not responded. He has not said anything since we talked to him on last Thursday when he promised he was going to do certain things, which is at least give the family a chance to see the video redacted, raw video coverage, and that was not done. Public pressure clearly is the only thing that's going to get them to move on this. Ben, your thoughts on that?

I think absolutely it's going to be the court of public opinion that will influence the court of law, just like it happened in Breonna Taylor, just how it happened in George Floyd, is the people having to stand up outside the courtroom to influence what's going to happen in the courtroom. I will say this, Roland Martin, you asked a profound question. Have we ever seen anything like this? Yes, we have. But we thought we had gotten past it. I mean, that was the old playbook with Michael Brown. That was the old playbook with Trayvon Martin. You know, 10 years ago, they wouldn't do anything. But since we raised the black consciousness level in America, you remember, Roland, when we were back there

stomping in Sanford, they had got away from trying to hide the ball. But it seemed like in Elizabeth City, North Carolina, they haven't learned their lesson. I just think that they're going to have to, it's going to have to take the people of this city in this county every single day, keeping that heat on them, because otherwise, if they don't, if they see it petering it out, if they see, okay, fine, not that many folks there. No, it has to be a level of intensity in order for it to get them to move. That's the only thing that's going to happen. Your thoughts on that?

I mean, I agree with you, but the thing that shocked me the most is that when you have lawyers of this caliber come to a place like this and it feel like they talked on deaf ears they didn't respect them for for people i know like from the streets that go and get cases and catch cases and get legal aid lawyers if these people right here in this city couldn't do what where we thought that they could do like this i feel sorry for the people here that got to deal with the situations where you got a legal aid or something, because this this system here is an in-house system. And if you ain't in house with them, you might not get justice. The hearing tomorrow is going to be huge in terms of getting that video released. Any indication,

from your perspective, will the DA support it, oppose it? Are there any public officials do you know who are calling for it to be publicly released? Well, I think the city council here in Elizabeth City has indicated that they do want the video released. I think the county commission has indicated that they do not. They support the sheriff. I think the county commission has indicated that they do not, they support the sheriff, they support the county attorney. But I don't think that this video is going to stay hidden for very long, much longer. The media, the people in the street, the pressure that's being placed upon these government officials is going to be so great over time that eventually it's going to come out. And what it's going to reveal is that there was a failure in this community from the police standpoint, from the

sheriff's office, in their tactics, in their methodology, in the fact that they basically had no respect for the law. They took an arrest warrant and took it to be an execution warrant? You know, Roland, in Pasquotank County, Pasquotank, Pasquotank County, they are different from the leadership in the city. Elizabeth City

is the majority population of the county and they're controlled by brothers and sisters. They have went on record to vote unanimously to say, release the video. But it's the county DA, the county sheriff, the district attorney, people who don't accurately, I guess, represent the interests of our community saying, no, we won't release the video.

And so we have to show them that we will not be marginalized because they're used to marginalizing black people in this county. But don't they have two black county commissioners? Where are they? It's the division here for the government. The city, if you look at the police force for the city, have one white command staff, rest of the officers are black. The county has one black, and the rest of the command is white.

It's complete division here in this city. And you are seeing it in his face. The city is saying, release the tape. The county is saying, no, we're not going to release the tape. And the question about the district attorney, he is going to oppose it. He is going to oppose it. But you need to listen carefully. What is his opposition?

If he's opposing it for an arrest, where's the damn arrest at? Where's the damn arrest at? All right, then. Well, look, we're certainly going to stay on top of it. And we'll see what happens in tomorrow's court hearing. I'm sure that's not going to be the end of it. So we'll stay on top. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. All right, folks, in a moment, we're going to show you my interview with the head of the North Carolina State Conference of the NAACP, as well as the brother who actually owns this home,

who knew and who's known Andrew Brown for a number of years. Right now, though, I want to bring in my panel to talk to them about this. Let's go to Ben Dixon. He is host of the Benjamin Dixon Show podcast, Kilibithia Communication Strategist, and also Mustafa Santiago Ali, Ph.D., former senior advisor for the Environmental Justice EPA. Benjamin, I want to start with you. The lack of answers, the lack of understanding. Literally, we do not know if there's an investigation.

We don't know who's leading the investigation. We don't know who they're talking to. We have not had a public statement from the DA. We have not had his communications folks come out and say anything to anybody about what's going on. And so you had yesterday showing of the video 20 seconds. All right. We're talking about we talk about being right here where there's that's a city camera. And again, we've had to request that particular video, which is not under the jurisdiction of the sheriffs as well. And it is as if there is this constant or this mode or a cone of silence in Elizabeth City and in this county that simply baffling to people living here and across the country. Yeah. Roland, there is a there's a thing that happens after every police shooting where the police like to give themselves enough time and not just the police, but all that

are involved. The prosecuting attorney, the D.A. in the case of Breonna Taylor, you had to go all the way to Daniel Cameron. They give themselves enough time to get their story right and the story that they want to run with in the media, despite the evidence that's in the video, they have to make sure that they can corroborate their stories amongst themselves so that when they go out and speak, they can all speak in one voice. Ben Crump actually mentioned Ferguson when he was speaking in that clip that you shared. And it just really shows you how the games that have been played over the last 10 years since Ferguson, all the way back to Trayvon Martin, all the way through any police shooting, it's the same game that's played over and over again.

The police are not there by themselves in these issues. They have the prosecuting attorney sometimes and the district attorneys behind them in these types of cover-ups. Mustafa, that really is a fundamental problem that we're facing here. Folks here have been calling for transparency. The problem is we don't have transparency. Yeah, well, they know with transparency, that means that folks are going to get the real information. Folks are going to get even more mobilized

when they see the execution of this young man. And that's exactly what it is. When you have a kill shot to the back of the head, that's an execution shot. So we understand this game that is continually being played where black folks can have their hands on the wheel of a car and be killed, or you can have your hands handcuffed behind your back and still be shot. And we see this play out time and time again, where we are complying. And the interesting thing about this case is that I don't blame that brother for actually trying to drive away. If you're shooting

at me, I'm trying to get away as well. That is just the natural state of someone trying to protect their lives because we have seen across the country when you comply and when you listen to whatever the order might be from a law enforcement officer, you are literally rolling the dice with your life. So until they do better, we have to do what we have to do to try and protect ourselves. Kelly, as someone who's a communication strategist, the folks here are failing communications 101 across the board. Across the board. You're absolutely right. When it comes to situations like this, the number one thing you should be doing in crisis communications is getting ahead of the story and holding yourselves accountable by controlling the narrative. Be as honest as possible, but still control the narrative. These police officers down in North

Carolina aren't doing that, probably because they know that they were in the wrong, and there's no way to do this ethically, crisis communications specialists be damned. There's no way to do this and get ahead of it in a way that makes you look good. It looks like that these cops were just simply overzealous, racially biased, and straight up wrong. When your hands are on the steering wheel, that's the number one thing that people are telling us to do as Black people.

When a cop sees you, 10 and 2, make sure that everything's clear, they see your hands, all of these things. Andrew Brown did all of that, and he was still killed. And frankly, I am tired. And I know I'm not the only one. I am tired of having to explain why my life matters, why I deserve the same courtesy, why I deserve the same benefit of the doubt, why I deserve the same amount of grace as my white counterparts in these situations? Because right now, it looks like there's,

you know, you hear this analogy right now of, you know, oh, a few bad apples, et cetera, et cetera. This is a rotten tree. And the few bad apples are actually the good cops. What we're seeing right now is the norm. What we're seeing right now is what they are actually trained to do. The difference is it's on camera now and they have to be held accountable for their actions now. And the fact that we are not given the same courtesy, we are not given the same grace as our white counterparts in these situations, it's absurd, especially when you see white people in the craziest situations with cops, and they are still alive at the end of the day.

I'll never forget in 2016 in Florida, this man was a cannibal, eating somebody's face in front of a slew of cops, and they never took out their gun. They took out tasers. They brought in the canine unit. They took, it was tasers, canine unit, three deputies tackling him. He's still alive awaiting trial. And Makia Bryant is dead because she was allegedly defending herself. Andrew Brown is dead because he was trying to comply. It makes no sense that my skin is more dangerous than a white cannibal.

Folks, we have been talking to a number of people here in Elizabeth City. We've been talking to neighbors, again, folks who have been impacted, the bullet that went through the door of Michael Gordon right across the street here. We've been talking to individuals who grew up with Andrew Brown Jr., folks who have talked about the city councilman and so many others as well. And so we had the opportunity to talk with the head of the North Carolina State Conference of the NAACP, Reverend Dr. Spearman. He came by. They had a minister's news conference earlier today. We're going to be streaming that news conference of the pastors after today's show. And so for that news conference of the pastors, you can see that after today's show.

But we had a chance to catch up with Reverend Spearman right here at the scene of the home. Here's our conversation with him. Reverend Dr. Spearman, y'all got together and you had a news conference earlier today. Talk about that. Yes, we gathered together. The clergy, the area clergy, had an exclusive meeting with them at 2 o'clock,

and the attorney, Harry Daniels, was with us on hand to provide any answers to any questions that they had. But our goal was to mobilize the pastors in the area and any ministers that may have had interest in being with us so that we can make sure that we set the narrative straight. One of the things that was concerning to me is how on the day that they were going to show the footage to the family that they declared a state of emergency. Right. Which is always, you know, they already knew what was going to be on the tapes. And they're basically setting us up to go and tear up stuff and all that kind of thing, which, you know, we don't do.

But they try to compel us to do those kinds of things. Right. Yeah. So we we called a a moral state of emergency and tried to change the the context and help them to understand some things, especially about the uniqueness of the black belt in the state of North Carolina. You know, this is one of the this is one of the original 40 preclearance counties in North Carolina that, of course, was eviscerated in the 2013 Supreme Court decision, Shelby v. Hogan. Talk about, again, we've spent a lot of time talking to people here. They've expressed their frustrations with the county officials here. They say you have black representation on the city council.

So the issue is with this county. Right. And that was something that I was adamant to bring out, I was intentional to bring out that as far as I was concerned, that it wasn't even the sheriff who was the one that should here in the, I think it's called the First Prosecutorial District. Right. And as such, he would be the only, because the seat was occupied by Judge J.C. Cole, who was an African-American for 20-some years, he and his wife. But now, if this dude wins, it would be in the hands of a white person. And, you know, in 2018, the North Carolina NAACP traveled to Washington, D.C., to oppose the confirmation of Thomas Farr to the Eastern District of North Carolina. Right. So we there's there's some there's an African-American that's running and and the choice, the pick really of Judge Cole.

And we're hoping that we'll see something manifest there. Well, and the issue there, and talk about the attorneys and others, is just how the DA has been non-responsive. Non-responsive, Roland. I have been calling the office continually. When I first called on April 21st, they told me that he was not going to be in his office until the 26th of April. And I said, then I said, that's unacceptable. You're telling me that he's out of pocket until the 26th with all of this that's going on. They gave me a number to call and told me to leave leave a message, which I did and no response whatsoever. None. And the sheriff's office was likewise.

So, you know, it tells a tale on how they treat, how they've been treating us and expecting us to roll over and take it for a long time, for a long time. This is a stronghold. And if our people don't begin to wake up and smell the coffee and do what needs to be done, then shame on us, you know, because we have to, we have to rise up and start doing the, doing what we need to do to get out of all of this kind of bondage that is, that is, that we're faced with. All right. Well, Reverend Theron, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Good to see you, sir. I, I, I, I, I, my colleagues and I wanted to come by here and see where, where Brother Andrew Brown Jr. was killed.

I mean, just slaughtered. Slaughtered. That's what happened. All right. We're going to stay on it. You set up, boy. You set up at the right place. I appreciate it.

God bless you, man. Thanks a lot. Appreciate you. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Again, folks are simply perplexed about all of that that is taking place here in Elizabeth City. Demand for answers. Here's what is going to be happening tomorrow. They are going to court. There has been a legal effort filed to get the body cam footage released. Last week, the sheriff said he would

like to do so. He said that he would actually go to court to get it released. At the news conference today, the attorneys talked about North Carolina law and how difficult it is compared to other states to get body camera footage released. And so they don't actually have to go to court to do so. But the district attorney, we understand, is going to oppose the release of the body camera footage. It's going to oppose that. Now, Benjamin, what we're still waiting on, again, as I said earlier, we put in and sold to other media outlets a freedom of information request for the city camera that's located here.

In a moment, we're going to be showing you an interview that we did with the city councilman here where we talked about that. But not so it's going to be a legal battle tomorrow. And so what's interesting is you have the sheriff on one hand who said that he was going to file that. The person who was fighting the attorneys yesterday was the county attorney. Now you're going to have the district attorney who supposedly is going to be against this. So tomorrow that legal battle will take place in a North Carolina courtroom. Yeah, Roland. And again, this goes right back to the fact that this is all one crooked,

corrupt system that comes at the expense of black lives too often. They are all co-conspirators there. Even if they are there as good faith actors, they are still there to protect the system and to see them come down in this particular situation to prevent the information from being released as it pertains to this particular case. It is disconcerting because we've seen this play itself out so many times. We have to fight so hard to get so little justice in this country. And so it's one of the reasons I'm so glad that you're there along with all the attorneys that are there because they are putting up every possible offense to stopping progress and stopping the information from being released. And that's

because they know if it is released, then it is going to damn them because of what they've already seen in the video. They know what's in it. Absolutely. They do know what's in it uh absolutely they do know what's in it kelly and and that's the difference as the attorney said today as ben crump said trust me if andrew brown jr was absolutely in the wrong that he was shot uh and killed last wednesday that video would have been out wednesday night it would have been out the minute that it happened honestly um and you saw that uh last week with uh makia bryant's case so the fact that you know people are justifying the murder of a 16 year old allegedly trying to defend herself just because of what a video looks like um compared to this situation where by all accounts with the exception of the police, because we don't know what their account is, Andrew Brown was completely in the right.

He was compliant. He was, you know, doing everything that he was supposed to do. And this goes back to my point that I just said a couple minutes ago. I deserve, we deserve as black people, the same amount of courtesy, the same amount of grace, the same benefit of the doubt as my white counterparts when it comes to these situations. All we're asking, frankly, is to arrest us like we're white. Good point, Mustafa. It's an excellent point. You know, comes down to this. We know that these cabals exist around our country, where these individuals will do these types of actions where they get everybody together. There's silence. There's no transparency. And then, you know, they'll begin to sort of leak out little tiny bits of information and trying to sort of paint the individual in a less than human way.

So for us to counter that, one of the things that we do is continue to put a spotlight on this. But two, in listening to the minister, we got to make sure that we're also voting in record numbers so that we get the right people into these offices to be able to counteract some of this thing. And then the third part that's tied to our vote is making sure that we have a Department of Justice that has individuals who are willing to lean in on these types of things. Now, I know it has to play out for a little bit on that local level. But the Department of Justice knows that these types of these types of killings happen, that they are on the ready and they're already moving toward where these places happen to make sure that people

are actually following the right things and getting information out and making sure there's no funny business. So our vote is supposed to matter. So Department of Justice, we need you to be on your job. And so we're still waiting to hear from that. Now, speaking of the investigation, earlier today when we came out to the scene here, several investigators from the State Bureau of Investigation, a couple of investigators actually came out and they met with the landlord here. And so this is the video here of those investigators arriving on the scene here to talk to the landlord. And so what they were coming to do, they were coming to actually check to see about additional cameras. Apparently, there were cameras that were actually inside.

There were cameras that was a ring camera. And apparently, there was another camera. They thought or they were told that there were additional cameras on the inside. They wanted to check that out. And so they went inside. They offered no comment to those of us in the media. And so that's what they did there. So after they went through the home, they were only in there. They were only in there a max, maybe, maybe 10 minutes. Then we had an opportunity to talk with the landlord about what they were looking for, what they were in search of. He also had an opportunity to talk to us about Andrew Brown, Jr.,

someone he has known since Brown was five years old. Of course, that's the last 37 years. So here's that. Here's that conversation. Andre, were those investigators with the State Bureau of Investigation? Yes, it was. And what did they talk to you about? They wanted to receive some information that there was some interior cameras as well as an exterior doorbell. They went in, they looked for the doorbell. Of course, it's gone.

And they went inside to look for a camera in the kitchen, and it's also gone. And when you say it's gone, were those installed by you? No, that was installed by Mr. Brown. Mr. Brown told me himself that he had installed cameras at this residence. Because if you walk around, you see some of the windows are busted out. This particular incident happened prior to. And they have pictures that there were cameras in front of the house as well as the ring doorbell directly after the incident. So the cameras that were, they were removed, who removed them?

Now that I don't know. But I do know that the only people that was on scene were the investigators. When we were able to come on. With the sheriff's office. The sheriff's department, yes. And the SBI was here as well. When we left, I mean, we were able to come on the scene, the cameras were gone. And the doorbell was gone.

So you don't know if that was SBI. Yeah, so they didn't take them. So SBI doesn't have them. No, sir. So it's either city, it's either DA, it's either the Sheriff's Department who has them. It's investigation. Somebody in the investigation unit has those cameras. Gotcha.

And so that's what they were really looking for? Yes, sir. That's exactly what they were looking for. Gotcha. How, uh, how long did, uh, how long did Mr. Brown live here? Um, about a year. Got it. A year. Got it. Uh, uh, describe what kind of tenant. Oh man, awesome tenant. As I was telling the guys from CNN is Brown came, I taught Brown basketball years ago. He was on my basketball team and he used to always see me on the street. Hey, you know, Simpson, rent me a place. I'm not renting you because you never paid me. You never paid me because I knew it.

I have a policy not to rent to people that I know. This particular day, he came to my office and he cried. He said, man, I got to get my kids back. The social services have two of my kids at this city, two of my kids in this city. I said, man, I'm going to give you a chance. And I did that.

Not once did I have any problems with them. Quick story. He went to court. He was still living in a hotel. House was ready. The judge asked him, are you still living? He told the judge he was still in the hotel. The judge continued 30 to 45 more days because he easily told the judge that he was home and he could move the the process to get his kids but he was honest with them he was honest um certainly um a lot of people have uh expressed their their feelings the shock and dismay of what took place uh how about you especially you know that look he was a uh he was a someone who lived here And this community is still just outraged. The lack of information, the lack of transparency, not knowing who's doing what. The DA hasn't come out and said that we're taking charge of the investigation.

No one actually knows who's actually investigating. That's right. And you won't know that. You don't know that until you put pressure. You're going to have to put the pressure somewhere downtown for that stuff to be released. So the stuff that you guys are coming out, you know, finding now, we, you know, Elizabeth City has been experiencing this for years.

Yes, sir. And you were born and raised here? Born and raised right here. Left four years, Chapel Hill, and came right back. Okay. All right, then. Well, appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Martin. All right, thanks a lot. Appreciate it. All right, thanks a lot. Take care, Doc. Be safe. You too. Again, folks, what you're hearing, a recurring theme here, and that is how conditions are in this city of 17,000 people.

In a moment, we're going to play for you an interview that I just conducted, literally not even an hour ago with one of the six black council members here in Elizabeth City. Now, keep in mind, this is one of the issues that you face here in Elizabeth City. You have the city. Fifty percent is pretty much half and half, but African-Americans are a majority on the city council. Okay. The city council voted, okay, unanimous to that calling for the release of the video the problem is dealing with the county okay now you're dealing with white control

in this area here and so that's what the battle uh that that is going on here so you get the city african americans are in control now you got the county whites are in control and so the racial dynamic uh exists here you've got folks who've talked about uh how the issues they've had with policing on the county side but then you see a significant number of black cops on the city side that's that's the dynamic uh that is going on here. Here is my interview with the councilman. Brooks, how long have you been a councilman here in Elizabeth City? Twelve years. Twelve years.

And this is your ward. This is my ward. So let's talk about, you know, what you've been trying to do to change this city and change this county. Well, one of the things I try to do is get cameras so I can see the whole length of Roanoke because the streets just come off of Roanoke. This is a busy highway and you have an elementary school and a social service building and a lot of traffic. So I've been trying to get security cameras on this so you can see the whole length of Roanoke. And it's been a tedious process, but progress I hope to be making. So when you talk about that security cameras, so we have the security camera here.

We're going to walk down here and see that. So this here is the camera at the city that picks up. So the camera is pointed in two different directions, right? Yes. So this particular camera, so this camera here was able to shoot the video here, and what you're saying, had they got the cameras in that direction, it would've gotten the shooting from all angles. Exactly, this camera goes down from here

to that part of Roanoke, as I see it here, it looks like it's showing down the end of Roanoke and that part of Perry Street. But from here back to where the elementary school is and social service building, I don't know if the camera can pick up from there. But if we had them there, because we had a break-in on a house beside the social service building a couple of months ago, and I was talking security cameras then so they had them then it would have picked up all the video from the

when he landed in the tree and this would have picked up over here and we wouldn't have to go through the tedious process of trying to get the body cams from the uh deputy sheriff, the one that shot, and I say the term loosely, murdered this guy because you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. Now, on the city, so this is a city camera. Yes. And they made us put in the Freedom of Information request to get it. Why hasn't the city just simply posted it so the public could actually see their video? I do not know uh it's just like when this first happened and uh we should have released what we had because

the city this is a third ward the city is part of the county so that we are in their corner we should have released what we know. I guess there was implications behind it. And that I don't know. Talk about how long have you lived here? You said you retired from the military and moved here. Yes. Came back here in 1988.

And so you have a sense of what this city is like when it comes to race relations, relationship between the city and the county, because others have said that you've got significant black representation on the city council. The problem is when you have vice control in the county level. It might be so, and I don't want to dig in that too much, but this is the only time that we have that many. We have out of nine to include the mayor, we have six council people that's black and three of them that's white. So that's the first time we overhead those numbers. As far as the race relations, it's probably UN itself.

So you're going to have those issues. But what happened is that we never have seen it even coming up as a kid to explode in a way that it has exploded now. That's not good. That's not good. So we need to bring the process along as fast as we can but as thorough as we can without the family having to experience all this pain with every heartbeat intensified. So that's what the issue is. So to answer the question you asked me, it's probably some in-deep-breaded racism,

but it don't come out because this could have that look of racism too because I don't know if you had any, I don't know, I know that seven's supposed to have been on administrative leave, but the fact is that no one can absorb it's almost as bad as them uh choking eric garner or them having a knee on george floyd neck they shot this man while he was trying to get away with his life you know it's the same thing you shoot him in the head execution style what would have been the backlash if Charvin had just turned George Floyd over and shot him in the head execution style?

You know, so we got to think on terms of that. That's bad. This is bad. This is not good. And in a small town, a southern town, I don't know how long it would take for us to recover from this, because this is tragic. How problematic is it for you, how silent the district attorney has been, and essentially the sheriff's office seems like they're investigating themselves.

And that becomes a problem. And I was listening to the attorney for the family. And what bothers me is that the way they say that the county attorney talked to them. And he talked to them as if they were somebody off the street. And they say they have never heard anyone talk to them like that again. That is a troubling thought. Because you'll do that with someone as nationally recognized as the attorneys that have come down there. Imagine what the attorneys that's in this town, this people of color, probably have to experience. That's very heartbreaking because it don't supposed to be like that.

I don't, it's a loved one has lost their life. And in a sense like this, there's no doubt that the first step, when you don't have no solid evidence for what you did, you start trying to assassinate someone's character. You try to assassinate a character. When they start trying to assassinate this character, that means that they don't think they have enough evidence that's solid enough to prove what they did. I really believe that. And that's my opinion and my opinion. And I won't back off from it because I've seen enough of it. And I tell you right now, I told him a lot of times, sitting on council for 12 years, I've been arrested four times. But I want to go through that because we're off topic.

But I think that was a tragedy. And it's almost a disgrace and disrespectful with the slow pace that they are trying to do the investigation. I believe in thoroughness, but don't let justice ride on the back of a turtle, you know, and tell the family to maintain your patience and tell these people that are supporting the family out there, some of them out there most of the day supporting the family, don't tell them okay, we want to be peaceful when pain is steady, intensifying in your chest because you lost a loved one. All right. I appreciate it, sir.

Thanks a lot. Thank you very much. Let's just double check in. First name, last name. Michael Brooks, Councilman, Third Ward. All right. I got it. Thanks a lot.

Thank you. I appreciate it. And that was, again, Councilman Michael Brooks there. We certainly appreciate that. I think you see this recurring theme, Ben. You see that people here, and talking to other people, they said, hey, you know what? Folks here, you know, they aren't very aggressive. They're not necessarily going to be out here acting upset.

But people are also saying that this could very well be the catalyst uh to affect change that district attorney he's also running for superior court judge against an african-american so i think what you're going to find is i think you're going to find where this all of a sudden uh could very well be an election issue for that da absolutely and you you you absolutely know that they're playing politics with this, because that's just the nature of the beast. But to play politics with the pain, like the council member Michael Brooks just stated, they're playing politics with the pain of family members who are grieving the loss of a loved one. And I think to put it into even more context,

we really have to understand that this is a long standing game that has been played on the American people, on black people in specific, because we have been the recipients and the receiving end of the police state for so many generations. And we've seen time and again that no matter how much evidence we bring to bear, no matter what videos we see, we still have an entire institution of people dead set on making sure that we do not get justice. Absolutely. Got to go to a break right now, folks. When we come back, we're going to go. We're going to hear from a family in High Point, North Carolina, whose son was killed at a church six months later. No answers. We're broadcasting live from Elizabeth City, folks. I'll take the drone shot here. This is the scene where Andrew Brown Jr. was shot and killed. And you see the community place these candles out here, these candles spelling out his name here in the driveway at Drew's. So that's where we are.

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where there'll be other families who have had sons or daughters shot and killed by police. Well, the family of Fred Cox, they appeared at today's news conference. They are from High Point, North Carolina. their son being shot and killed at a church by a detective from a neighboring county. After the news conference, I caught up with Fred Cox's mother and father for their shocking and unbelievable story and how they are still in search of answers in the death of their son six months ago. So, first of all, tell us about the case of Fred Cox. What happened?

Fred was attending the funeral of one of his close friends, and shots rang out on one side of the church. On the opposite side of the church, a detective chased him into the church as he ushered a mother and her son into the church for safety and shot him in the back twice, one side in the back of the neck and one to the thigh as he ran to a church. My baby's body laid inside the church. We do not know who the detective is. They will not release his name. And it's been almost six months and I'm still fighting. So in terms of, I mean, so obviously there was a shooting in terms of, uh, the district attorney, nothing, no, nothing from them, nothing at all. She called me on Friday to say she was giving me a courtesy call. I'm not sure what a courtesy

call means because six months ago, my son was murdered. So what is a courtesy call? And I'm trying to sympathize with her like, ma'am, this is my child. He's gone. The only child that I have killed in a church. What do you mean you're giving me a courtesy call? But that's all she would say. She would not give me any more information. We haven't heard anything. We don't know anything. Just like you asked us questions. We have no answer. Was it a, was it, was it a city police officer? Was it a sheriff's deputy? Do you even know that? Davidson County, um, detective Davidson County detective. He was out of his jurisdiction and his higher up stated in the paper that he didn't know if he was off duty, if he was working the case, he didn't even know.

So you say he was out of his jurisdiction. The shooting did not take place in Davidson County? No, sir. So what county? In Guilford County. What county was that? Guilford. And he was a Davidson County detective. So what was he doing there? What county was that? Guilford. Guilford County. And he was a Davidson County detective. So what was he doing there?

He said, from my understanding, again, no one will contact me. He was doing an ongoing investigation. I don't know. Now, was he at the church at the funeral or was he somewhere else? He was inside the church at the funeral. From my understanding, he was in close parameter to my son. He saw my son. He walked past my son in the church. So he knew exactly who my son was as if he was targeting him alone.

My son was in his car, jumped out his car, and pushed a lady. And her son was telling them, get in the church, get in the church. They're shooting. And he chased my baby in the church and shot him from behind. So that was shooting taking place outside? On the opposite side of the church. And my son was murdered on the other side of the church. So was the shooting taking place at the church or was it nearby? Was it? It was nearby. It was on the side street. So to your understanding, it wasn't people who were actually attending the funeral?

No, no, no, no. It was nobody attending the funeral that we know of. So there's a shooting taking place near the church. Your son's in the parking lot in his car. Was he leaving or was he just arriving? The lady, the eyewitness, the key witness said that he was in the car. The car was crunk. She could feel the wind from the air being

on so he was ready to go when the shot started firing and he jumped out the car and because she was speaking with him through his window and they running into the church for safety and he was pushing her she said he fell and she was reaching out for him but she she said she knew if she stopped she would be murdered too she said he was just laying face down so shots were being fired he's pushing her into the church and then all and so they kept saying somebody was chasing us somebody was shooting inside the church it was the detective chasing chasing them in the church while shooting so the detective was inside the church attending the funeral.

Yes. As a shooting has taken place outside, not at the funeral, but across the street. On the street of the church. We don't know if it was connected. We don't know. Shots ring out. All of a sudden,

he's pushing his lady in for safety. He's on the outside, pushing her on the inside. Next thing you know, shots are fired on the inside to him outside. That's right. From my understanding. And she is the key witness. I did speak to someone at the SBI. The SBI is putting it off on the DA. The DA is putting it off on the SBI. It's like tug of war. But I'm getting no answers six months later. So who is

the DA? Avery Crump. Avery Crump. And she gave you a courtesy call when? On last Friday. And the call was just to say hey? Hello, I'm just letting you, I'm giving you a courtesy call. We are working on your case.

But it's been six months. Exactly. Six long months. Who is that? Have y'all hired an attorney to represent y'all, to bring pressure on them? And who is that? We have Ben Crump on our case. When did y'all hire Ben?

Back in December, January. December, January. So he has been working on getting things in order and working on a local attorney. All right, then. Well, we certainly appreciate it. And hopefully we'll make some calls. Hopefully we can get some answers. Thank you.

Thank you so much. I appreciate it. And also, how old was your son? My son was 18 years old. Just turned 18. Just turned 18 and just graduated from high school. Played football. Anybody knows Fred. He was well-mannered.

He was one of those kids that said, yes, ma'am, no, sir. He was that type of child. And they have tried to crucify his name. But who is this detective? Who is Detective Hill? Is he working? Is he on paid vacation? In fact, the woman who you said was a witness, has she been interviewed?

She she said the interview was so light it was not to prosecute. She was she said she was ashamed of the interview from the FBI. We still appreciate it. Thanks a thank you we appreciate you thank you i i said i simply can't imagine uh kelly being a parent uh and uh this is the case i just can't imagine uh that that you're sitting here and and you're not getting answers when it comes to your child, when it comes to what happened to your child. That, to me, is unbelievable. It's not only unbelievable, it's just incredibly depressing and, frankly, scary

because it shows you just how many cases there are like this that don't hit the media, that don't get the attention they deserve, that just slip through the cracks because that's how many of us are dying. One thing I wanted to mention that I forgot when it came to the Andrew Brown case, but it also applies to this High Point case, is the fact that the reason i believe there's not as much uh coverage on this story media notwithstanding is because these two cities are really heavy college towns elizabeth city is home to elizabeth city state university which is at hbcu high point has shaw and cat winston salem within a 20 to 30 mile radius i I almost guarantee you, had it not been

for COVID and the restrictions and the limitations on in-person learning, this would get a whole lot more traction and or more students would be, more Black bodies would be in danger under the guise of these cops. So just something to keep in mind moving forward, how important our youth are when it comes to bringing awareness to these cases, because they're the ones with the cameras. They're the ones who don't have as

much fear as our predecessors and our parents and our grandparents when it comes to situations like this. They will be out front. They will fight and they will actually make sure that their voices are heard on behalf of the victim in these cases. So I just wanted to point that out. Again, this is being as I listen to that mother and father, six months?

And again, son outside trying to save other people, and then he gets killed from a cop on the inside? And they, six months, and they have no answer? That's the part, Roland, that really throws me. Because, you know, this young man, he was at a funeral. So you can't go to a funeral without getting killed by a police officer. Andrew Brown was trying to get away with his life, complying, getting killed by a police officer. Micaiah Bryant, defending herself, got killed by a police officer. Breonna Taylor, sleeping in her bed, got killed by a police officer. Just so many, like, where can we go?

We can't eat. We can't sleep. We can't walk. We can't drive. We can't do anything without getting shot. And then we can't get justice after the fact because they have been able to filibuster this case for Fred Cox for the last six months, which is obscene. And I just can't imagine the pain of that family

having to cope with not only the loss of their son, but also the gross injustice that they're facing. It is really unbelievable. It is really unbelievable what has taken place. And so we're going to follow up on that story as well, folks. It is one after the other. I am sitting here. So let me give you an update, folks, on the video. I just got an email that we can actually pick up the DVD. Sorry.

Hey, Anthony, I need you to tell Reggie. I know, guys, I know we're live. I need you to tell Reggie, call the number I just sent him. Okay? The city has the DVD of that camera available. We can pick up the DVD. I need him to call right now and go pick that DVD. If we can pick it up now, have him go pick up that DVD right now.

Okay? Sorry about that, folks. I know it's live, but the bottom line is you've got to give out the instructions when they come in. So literally I just got the email that it could be picked up, and so we are working on that as we speak, trying to make that happen. Lots of other news has been going on as well, folks. And so we have been covering a different aspect of what's going on.

We told you yesterday, we told you yesterday, what has been taking place coming out of the Department of Justice. Somebody asked in terms of examining the Louisville Police Department and the Minneapolis Police Department. Mustafa, I believe, was saying that DOJ needs to step in. But the problem is you're still trying to figure out what's going on. Remember, they can only investigate civil rights violations, and so we're waiting to see if that actually takes place, what is going to be their involvement. So we have not heard that. I've saw some reports out there. People are saying that they are going to, that they're going to, DOJ is going to step in. That is not true. That is not, we have not seen anything along those lines, folks, that the Department of Justice

has decided to step in here. So I just want to give you that update. Let's do talk about what the Department of Homeland Security, they have announced that they are going to have a significant internal review to root out white supremacy from inside of its ranks. The department, of course, was launched to prevent domestic terror threats. Terrorism threats become the latest government agency to attempt to weed out extremists. This has been a priority of President Joe Biden since he was elected. This was the following statement that was released by the head of the Department of Homeland Security. Domestic violent extremism poses the most lethal and persistent terrorism-related threat to our country today. As we work to safeguard our nation, we must be vigilant in our efforts to identify and combat domestic violent extremism within both the broader community and our own organization.

Hateful acts and violent extremism would not be tolerated within our department. That is important, Ben, because the FBI, of the people that they have arrested for January 6th, that insurrection, 52 of those people are government officials, law enforcement or members of the U.S. military. Yeah, no, absolutely. This is this is interesting because they are going to really find how drenched in white supremacy these institutions really are. January 6th was full of officials, of members of the military, former police agents, just so many people. And we've seen that they have infiltrated. There's been report after report that shows how much white supremacy has infiltrated not only the military, but the different institutions that run the law enforcement wing of this country. That said, the question is, is how thorough are they going to be and what are they going to do with this information? Because we don't just need

to discover a study and find out how many are there. Are they going to get rid of them? Because these are the people who are charged with protecting and serving law and order, and they cannot provide law and order when they are carrying the banner of white supremacy. This is significant, Kelly, and it's important. Not only Department of Homeland Security, of course, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said the exact same thing, rooting out white supremacist extremism in the U.S. military. Well, that said, our Fox News, but we know based upon previous stories, the racism that blacks and other minorities have faced in the military

and how there's a problem in our nation's armed forces with white supremacists being a part of these various groups. This internal review is critically important. Not only is it important, but at the same time, I think we need to......culture of our military. It is the culture of our DHS. We have to basically change a culture in order for this violent extremism to be eradicated. What that looks like, I'm not entirely sure. My only concern right now is even though the statements from the secretary were very pointed, my concern is that in general,

the level of scrutiny when it comes to rooting out racism is extremely high, to the point where it's almost as if someone has to say the N-word to your face in order for someone to have a case with the EEOC. So if that is the threshold, then any investigation right now is kind of null and void and moot, because it's not that kind of racism that we really need to be looking at. We do need to see it, but it's the insidious racism. It's the covert racism. It's the microaggressions. It's the racial bias that is covered and protected by the lower levels of scrutiny that we really have to look into, investigate, and then root out.

Absolutely. Folks, let's talk about, we go to Wisconsin, where the uncle of Jacob Blake has been released on bond during a protest demanding the firing of the white officer who paralyzed his nephew. Justin Blake was among a group of protesters who blocked the Kenosha County Public Safety Department entrance over the weekend. He and two others were arrested on disorderly conduct charges. The department's decision not to fire officer rustin sheskey who shot jacob blake in the back and paralyzed him from the waist down has sparked citywide demonstrations protesters are upset the officer returned to work from administrative leave earlier this month now let's go to texas where a tex Texas attorney is requesting a posthumous pardon of George Floyd.

Floyd was convicted in 2004 for selling $10 worth of drugs, and he spent 10 months in jail. The arresting officer, Gerald Goins, has more than 160 drug convictions tied to him that have been dismissed by prosecutors. This is a statement released by attorney Allison Mathis. Quote, this pardon application does not seek to redress as much as one might feel that George Floyd was treated unfairly. More than 15 years later, both of these men have come into the spotlight on opposite sides of the same issue. The vast unfairness of the United States criminal justice system

and specifically the grotesque abuses of power by police officers. A pardon wouldn't erase the memory, personal or institutional, of this thing that happened to him or the things that would happen to him later. in fundamental fairness, in admitting its mistakes, and in working to increase the accountability for police officers who break our trust in their oaths and harm our people rather than serve them. Now, yesterday, Ben, we talked about an officer in Florida, 400-diff-some-odd cases where he planted drugs on people. This officer in Houston is a total disgrace to the police force, and they've had to throw all these cases out. Your thoughts on this request for a pardon of George Floyd? I think the request for the pardon,

I think it's a good thing. It's a noteworthy thing. But it really just speaks to how drenched with corruption and white supremacy the policing agencies across this entire country are. We often have people in times like this who step up and say not all cops are bad. I'm sorry. It's not the good cops that we're worried about. It's their comrades. It's the ones that are going to plant drugs on us. It's the ones that are going to carry, I covered a story last week, carry toy guns in order to plant it on people in case of a shooting. They're the ones who are going to make sure that if they see you as a threat, that they are not going to see you as a human being. They are so drenched in white supremacy. They are so used to looking at us through the lens

of dehumanization. They don't believe that we're human, Roland, and they don't care. And they are carrying the entire weight of this system. The way they pay their bills at City Hall, the way they collect these dollars, the internal investigation from the Department of Justice into Ferguson showed that they use the policing agencies to fund the entire city. So it's not just a problem of the pardon. I'm glad he got that pardon, and it's a good thing, but it really just speaks to how corrupt and how drenched in white supremacy our policing agencies really are.

Well, he hasn't gotten the party. She's putting the request in. So that's what she's doing. Kelly, your thoughts? No, Benjamin took the words out of my mouth with this one. It is it is sad that we even have to think about giving or considering clemency for someone who died at the hands of law enforcement unnecessarily so um i i i just keep reiterating the fact that we as black people have to basically be on guard because people see our skin as a weapon people see our being as a threat. Doesn't matter where we are, doesn't matter how light we are, how dark we are, where we are in society, rich, poor, whatever, married to a white person, not.

You know, it, it, all it, all that matters is that we're Black and people are threatened by that. And it is a sad state of affairs when my family is that we're black and people are threatened by that. And it is a sad state of affairs when my skin basically gives you a reflex to kill me. So regardless of this clemency, we have a lot of work to do as a country so that we don't even need this kind of clemency,

so that another George Floyd doesn't happen. So again, I just keep reiterating those points. So that we don't even need this kind of clemency. So that another George Floyd doesn't happen. So, again, I just keep reiterating those points. Let's stay in Texas. The Texas Court of Appeals heard arguments today from lawyers looking to overturn the conviction of former Dallas police officer Amber Geiger. Of course, she was the one who murdered both of John and his apartment. An attorney for Geiger argued that his client should be acquitted of killing John and found guilty on a lesser charge. Geiger's legal team asserted that while she did not intend to shoot the 26 year old accountant in 2018, she believes she had the right to act in self-defense and protect what she thought was her home.

But it wasn't. Geiger, of course, was found guilty by a jury in 2019 after she shot and killed her neighbor while he was eating ice cream in his home. She is serving 10 years in prison. Folks, let's go to Georgia, where staffers of the district attorney there are not happy with the Secretary of State's office saying they're not cooperating in their investigation. The lack of cooperation has prompted the office to consider whether it rises to obstruction of justice and uses subpoenas to force Secretary of State staff members to testify and share information.

They are investigating Donald Trump calling the Secretary of State, Brian Raffensperger, with regards to trying to overturn the election. Raffensperger's office disputes the motion that the office has not been cooperating. The first round of subpoenas could be sent out next month. I say being kind of important when it comes to this whole issue. Yeah, no, absolutely. And, you know, it's just I'm fascinated by how good they are as obfuscating the situation and delaying the levers of justice when they are in the wrong. This is not a little thing. In fact, this is one of the things that led to the insurrection on January 6th. It

was the constant incitement from Donald Trump. It was the constant him constantly putting himself into the equation, insisting that he had this election stolen from him. And he believed it so much that he got involved to the extent that he contacted the Secretary of State here in the state of Georgia. And so if we cannot get justice in this regard, then not only are they saying to this country that white supremacy is supreme, but they're saying that it is above and beyond the democracy itself. And they're willing to sacrifice that democracy in the name of white supremacy and Donald Trump. Kelly, Kelly.

First of all, Kelly, I say this is good to have a black is good as good of a black district attorney leading this. And I say slap him with subpoenas slap him right now on donald trump absolutely throw the whole book um he he's a crook and he's no no no no no no no no no no no kelly no kelly kelly the subpoenas will be for the secretary of state's office and they are obstinate uh and not responding again they they need to be held accountable for their actions especially when it comes to uh this president i'm sorry you were frozen for a second so i wasn't really able to hear uh what what you were talking about but i i do agree with what i heard just now okay folks so here's what we're about to do here okay so uh we actually sent an uber to pick up that particular dvd so okay i need y'all just to work with me here okay so here's what we're about to do here. Okay, so we actually sent an Uber to pick up that particular DVD.

So, okay, I need y'all just to work with me here. Okay, so here's what is about to happen. Okay, we're about to go to a commercial break. And then what we're going to do is we're actually going to go into our, we call it the Roro Mobile, our mobile studio. And we're going to play. We have a Blu-ray player that is in the unit. Hopefully we can get a DVD to play on that unit. If so, what we're going to do is we're going to actually play the video of the footage

that's from the city's camera that recorded the incident where, of course, Mr. Brown was shot and killed six days ago. So we're going to go to a break right now. We'll go to break, of course. Again, this is the drone shot we have up here. We're literally here at the home of Andrew Brown Jr. This is where he was shot and killed on Wednesday. You see the vote of candles out here that people have put out here spelling out his name in the driveway.

This is the driveway where he was shot and killed. And so what we're going to do right now, the DVD just arrived. The DVD just arrived. And so what we're going to do is we're going to try to play this DVD in our system so you can actually see it. Normally what we do is we try to play it and load it where everything's perfect. Well, what we're going to do, folks, we're going to improvise. That's what we do. We're going to improvise and we're going to sit here and point

our camera to the television. Luckily, in our Sprinter, we've got a 46-inch TV. We can actually play it, so we're going to do that in a second. So to the control room, buy me some time. Give me two or three minutes with some of our commercial stuff. So allow us an opportunity to get this set up because I want to be able to play this for you

because we literally just got our hands on the video of the Elizabeth City camera that is not even 100 feet from where i'm standing well that camera was pointed down this street down this street here uh down the street and a matter of fact i'm just gonna basically i'm just gonna turn the the if i can turn the uh so let me turn the uh uh the uh first of all the drone is gonna uh is gonna come in for a second here give me one second folks uh let me cancel that so let's just turn it here so you see that light pole right there uh that light pole let me take it over i just want to show you this light pole right here um if i bring this thing that if i uh let me try to it forward, y'all, it's a whole lot of wires.

It's a whole lot of wires that you'll be able to see. And so let me just point this down. So if you see that gray box down there, that gray box, that is the camera right there that we're going to be showing you that video in just a second. So let's go to a break. We'll be back on Roland Martin Unfiltered from live from Lisbon City in just a second so let's go to a break we'll be back on roland martin unfiltered from live from lisbon city in just a moment i believe that it's movement time again in america today the economy is not working for working people the poor and the needy are being abused you are the victims of power and this is the abuse of economic power.

I'm 23 years old. I work three jobs. Seven days a week. No days off. They're paying people pennies on the dollar compared to what they profit. And it is time for this to end. Essential workers have been showing up to work,

feeding us, caring for us, delivering goods to us throughout this entire pandemic. And they've been doing it on a measly $7.25 minimum wage. The highest check I ever got was literally $291. I can't take it no more. You know, the fight for 15 is a lot more than about $15 an hour. This is about a fight for your dignity. We have got to recognize that working people deserve livable wages.

And it's long past time for this nation to go to $15 so that moms and dads don't have to choose between asthma inhalers and rent. I'm halfway homeless. The main reason that people end up in their cars is because income does not match housing cost. If I could just only work one job, I could have more time with them. It is time for the owners of Walmart, McDonald's, Dollar General, and other large corporations to get off welfare and pay their workers a living wage. And if you really want to tackle racial equity, you have to raise the minimum wage. We're not just fighting for our families, we're fighting for yours too. We need this. I'm going

to fight for it till we get it. I'm not going to give up. We just need all of us to stand up as one nation and just fight together. Families are relying on these salaries and they must be paid at a minimum $15 an hour. $15 a minimum. And then we should be making this a bit of a stay out of poverty. I can't take it no more. I'm doing this for not only me, but for everybody. We need 15 right now. Yo, what's up? This your boy Ice Cube. What's up?

This your boy Ice Cube. What's up? I'm white. I got you. Illegally selling water without a permit. On my property. Whoa! I'm uncomfortable.

All right, folks. Y'all know how we always call out crazy-ass white people. And one of the craziest white folks you see on television is former United States Senator Rick Santorum. This man is truly, truly despicable. Listen to what this fool had to say in speaking just the other day about America, how it was founded and created, and how he just completely dismisses Native Americans and how Native Americans got to be the condition they're in. Y'all, watch, play it. If you think about this country, I don't know of any other country in the world

that was settled predominantly by people who were coming to practice their faith. They came here because they were not allowed to practice their particular faith in their own country, and so they came here mostly from Europe, and they set up a country that was based on Judeo-Christian principles. When I say Judeo-Christian, the Mosaic laws, the Ten Commandments, and the teachings of Jesus Christ,

the morals and teachings of Jesus Christ. That's what our founding documents are based upon. It's in our DNA. You know, if you think of other countries like Italy and Greece and China and Turkey and places like that, they've all sort of changed over time. I mean, they've been there for millennia in many cases, and their culture has sort of evolved over time. But not us.

We came here and created a blank slate. We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there's nothing here. I mean, yes, we have Native Americans, but candidly, there isn't much Native American culture in American culture. It was born of the people who came here pursuing religious liberty to practice their faith, to live as they ought to live, and have the freedom to do so, religious liberty. Those are the two bulwarks of America. Faith and freedom. I mean, you hear it all the time now.

Faith and freedom, faith and freedom. But it is what makes America unique in the world. Okay. Where should I start? Ben, did Rick Santorum completely miss that whole part where the same white folks from Europe who he's praising wiped out and killed Native Americans? Well, we really don't have Native American culture. Because y'all destroyed it. Y'all literally tried to, they literally committed genocide against Native Americans. And then act like there was nothing here. Like, oh, we got

here and everything was barren and we did everything. First of all, if it wasn't for the Native Americans, your white ass ancestors would have died because they could not know. They didn't know how to eat and survive off the land. Ben, go ahead. The other thing, Roland, is that he had the nerve to say that they birthed the nation. Right. And hearkening back to Birth of a Nation, the movie, the white supremacist KKK movie that was played in the White House by Woodrow Wilson, the propaganda machine movie that demonstrated

or displayed black people as savages. And so, of course, Rick Santorum is coming from like an elementary school interpretation of Thanksgiving, where he views the settlers as those people who were noble and sat down and ate dinner with the Native Americans. When the real story is they brought their diseases and they brought their weapons and they massacred an entire a complete genocide of the native americans and to think for him to say rather for him to say that they built this right yeah yeah yeah they built it with black labor with enslaved labor on the land and on the body and the blood of native americans so this is this is to him it sounded good because he tried to wrap it in Christian values. But it shows exactly how drenched in white supremacy, even the most ridiculous

Republican actually is. The thing to me, Kelly, is just how laughable white folks are in this country with this idea that, oh, we built this. First of all, you stole it. This notion that there was nothing here when you arrived is grossly incorrect. People were already here. Christopher Columbus didn't found a damn thing. You can't be the founder of something that was already found. That's first. But second, when you talk about what these Europeans did, how they raped and pillaged this country, how they stole land, how they killed and maimed in order to take control.

And yes, we celebrate Thanksgiving. And it was the Native Americans who were being cordial host, and then the very people who they were helping, who they were supporting, turned right around and said, we're going to kill you, and if we don't kill you, we're going to subjugate you to our rule and our authority and our white supremacy. That is the history that Rick Santorum refuses to acknowledge, and CNN has said nothing about those comments, yet they got rid of Mark Lamont Hill

when he made comments talking about the people of Palestine. They got rid of other folk. They got mad at the comedian Kathy Griffin when she held up a bloody head of Donald Trump. Was it Reza? I can't remember his last name. When he made some comments and they dropped his show, yet Mr. White Supremacy Rick Santorum is still employed there. I don't know for how long, but you're absolutely right. They're

taking their sweet time regarding having a response for this situation. It is always so interesting to me how white people glorify and romanticize and try to justify genocide. It's absolutely baffling to me. the one thing that he said and i'll give him this much when he said we came here and created a blank slate that is the closest thing to the truth that he has ever said because he they did create the blank slate which implies that there was something here. There was something here that was frankly better than what they had, which is why they came here. You know, they were in Europe not knowing how to eat anything but raw pig and potatoes. And then

they come here where there's irrigation, where there's vegetables, where there is a civilization and they reward the knowledge that the Native Americans gave them with smallpox and rape. So they had to create the blank slate in order to get this far, but it is always so baffling to me how they are able to twist and maim

and distort history in such a way where genocide is glorified. It's absolutely ridiculous to me. Again, Rick Santorum is not the only one who has said something like this. I mean, Rush Limbaugh, when he was alive, said stuff like this. The guy out in Iowa who's no longer a congressman uh steve king he said something similar white supremacists have to create a narrative in which they are on top in order to survive in the white supremacy so this doesn't surprise me at all, but it is, it, it is something to see. I'll say that much. Well, and again, and so the reason it's important for us folks to call these

people out, uh, because it is revisionist history. Uh, it's the same history when you have folks, uh, when we talked to the story the story uh of the school teacher who downloaded this particular pamphlet uh that essentially said uh slavery really didn't exist uh things along those lines now not we're not gonna allow that folks this is important because this is the difference between what we call his story which is is what Rick talked about, and history. The problem, Ben, for white folks like Rick Santorum, is it bothers them that folks like us who are all black, we can read. See, that was a reason.

I keep telling people this. Folks like me, you, and Kelly, we are their worst nightmare because it was never designed for us to be able to read, for us to be able to know what was going on. Laws were passed that actually made it illegal for us to read. So what's bothering them now is, my God, now they can read. Now, all of a sudden, we can't distort the history like we've always done. That's why they have been so angry with Nicole Hannah

Jones and the 1619 Project. And then they go out and they get folks like Bob Woods and other black folks to come out with the 1776 whatever the hell that thing was. Trump creates that 1776 commission and then we're going to have this

courtyard, a garden of American heroes. No. The real deal here is here. White folks, y'all don't get to act like America is a big Burger King. You can't have it your way. Roland, the other thing they're trying to do, Roland, is not only have it their way, but they want this kind of immaculate conception, interpretation of American history. They want people to believe that this white

America that they're trying to protect and go back to wasn't born out of genocide, wasn't born out of enslaving Africans. It wasn't born out of exploiting labor. It wasn't born out of Jim Crow and segregation and redlining. They want you to believe that America is has ascended. And it's like the the picture of George Washington in the Capitol, the apotheosis of George Washington, as if all that they did all this time was honorable and noble. Because if anybody ever cracks that that that that hermetically sealed bubble of lies, then there's an accountability that has to take place. America has to be held accountable for everything that it has done because those effects are still being felt today. The reason we could do, you could do, Roland, almost two hours, complete two hours of show, black life after black life after black

life, black murder by police officer. I mean, just one after the other. The reason we could do that and fill up two hours is because they took all of the centuries of American history to dehumanize the value of black life. America has to be held accountable for that. And that's rooted in the same thing that Rick Santorum is trying to cover up with what they did to the Native Americans. And Kelly, I'm going to get his point here. you're going to get a big laugh out of this.

Now you've got these white supremacists who are running along, and what they're doing is now they're trying to invade our YouTube channel and Facebook page. Last night we were live streaming in March, and one of these little white supremacist sites, they started mirroring our website. Now, we hit their ass with a copyright strike, and we going to work to YouTube to get that channel removed, but they were stealing our

live stream. So, I see their comments now, and I've been laughing, and do want to say, I'm going to block your punk asses every chance I can get, but they're angry. They're angry that they can't control this. They're angry that even as we are talking, as even as we are breaking down of what's going on, is killing them that they can't control what we are saying. Because, see, I told y'all, y'all don't run this thing anymore.

See, the reason the reason I'm going after General Motors and the rest of these companies is because we are not going to tolerate y'all sucking up all of the money. What's killing y'all is and is bothering y'all is driving y'all crazy. Go ahead and go to the drone shot, Henry, because I need all of the white supremacists who are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered right now. Y'all comment, commenting on YouTube. I just need y'all to understand just a few things that y'all watching. Okay? So I'm going to go ahead and just bring the drone down so y'all can see. You know what I need y'all to understand?

You see that vehicle? That's black-owned. You see that tent right there? That's black-owned. Do you see that live streaming unit? That's black-owned. What y'all also don't understand is what's killing y'all is the drone that I'm flying. Yeah, that's black on too.

And I know it's messing with y'all because y'all are used to controlling everything. And see, I know it's messing with y'all because guess what? The cameras are black on. The tripod is black on. The lights are black on. All this is black on. Y'all thought y'all were going to control everything. And I'm just letting y'all know y'all not going to control everything. And I'm just letting y'all know y'all not going to control everything.

And y'all need to understand something. We got this. Y'all need to understand something. And I want to let y'all know, okay, all this, that's black on. The headset is black on. It's all paid for. My viewers pay for it. Oh, by the way, I got some white viewers who supported us, some Latinos, Asians, Native Americans.

But what they have to understand, Kelly, is we are not sitting here. They can't control the media like they always have. Y'all got ABC, NBC, CBS. Y'all got CNN, Fox News, OANN, Newsmax. Well, guess what? We're building it as well. And y'all cannot control us anymore. You do not control the message or the narrative.

You're absolutely right. The reason I think this is happening, especially what you see on your on your feed and these comments you know trying to uphold white supremacy it is a situation in which the only way these people feel special is to keep someone else down the only way they have power is to be on top and keep everybody else down. And the problem with truth is that it doesn't necessarily set you free. It is set free. So when everything is free, when everything is out there, white supremacists fear is that they will no longer be special.

So I don't know uh people remember uh the incredibles um when the villain said when everybody's special then no one is and that is their fear white supremacist fear is that when everybody's special then they won't be special but the problem with that is when everybody's special, everybody's just special. You don't get special treatment, but you are special in your own right. But they don't understand that because they've never interacted in that dynamic before. They've never been in that culture before where it's a collective specialness where everybody helps each other the only way they know how to operate is to seek kill and destroy not calling y'all devils but if it walks

like a duck amen amen all right all right folks so here's the deal uh so we're so here's the deal so uh the dvd player uh excuse me excuse me, the DVD of the shooting has arrived. We're going to go try to figure out, again, it's a DVD. We have a Blu-ray. Not sure that's going to work. So we're going to go ahead and try to play that. So that's what we're working on right now. And so, matter of fact, so the landlord came here.

Let me just go ahead and move this drone shot out of the way. Bring it closer to me. And so there we go right there. And so right folks sorry about that uh so i'm gonna go over here uh to anthony we're gonna work that out so uh control room let's go to a break and then hopefully we can get this video to play so we can show y'all the city footage of this shooting right here on roller mart unfiltered broadcasting live from elizabeth Folks, I'll be back in a moment. America is the only country founded on an idea, the radical idea that citizens could govern themselves.

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do nothing. Hey, what's up? This is Marlon Wayans. No, it's not Kenan. No, or as some of y'all say, Klignan. No, it's not Damien. It's really, and it's not Damon, because I do not have a bald head. Um, it's one of the Wayans. It's not Winans, uh, because they have been coming up to me, going, hey, how you doing? I love the Winanans.

There's no Bebe and no Cece in this family. There's Kiki and Damon. So I am one of the Wayans brothers, or as you may want to call fraternity population. There's the Chinese and then there's the Wayans. We, there's so many of us. Seven Wayans was born during this drop. So you are watching my man, Roland Martin,

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He's the one that got Al doing the one-handed almost push-up on the desk. So Roland Martin is the inspiration behind that. So be sure to tune in and watch. Roland Martin, unfiltered. I'm in the world of fiction. I mean, that's what I do. I'm an actress. I spent 35 years in this business. I've been in the business since I was 14. I was discovered in a basement theater in Philadelphia, a basement called Freedom Theater. And that's what I do. I play for a living. And I look and see that we're in a world that, I mean, it's bizarre

where you can't tell the fake from the real. These people are not faking it. That's what they're going to do. They're willing to put their whole lives, their family's lives, their whole, everything they've accomplished around looking pathetic and weak around a table because this man showed up and told them that, you know, that he was the one and everybody should follow him. He didn't even have a good, he didn't even have a good argument. He's not Martin Luther King.

He has no, he has no, no words. He has no, he has nothing. He's just rich and white and male and so people want to see that power on display and then tell us that we are not you know that we're crazy they can't do it anymore that's the good news i believe that it's movement time again in america today the economy is not working for working people. The poor and the needy are being abused. You are the victims of power. And this is the abuse of economic power.

I'm 23 years old. I work three jobs. Seven days a week. No days off. They're paying people pennies on the dollar compared to what they profit. And it is time for this to end. Essential workers have been showing up to work, feeding us, caring for us, delivering goods to us throughout this entire pandemic. And they've been doing it on a measly $7.25 minimum wage. The highest check I ever got was literally $291. I can't take it no more. The fight for 15 is a lot more than about $15 an hour. This is about a fight for your dignity. We have got to recognize that working people deserve livable wages.

And it's long past time for this nation to go to 15 so that moms and dads don't have to choose between asthma inhalers and rent. I'm halfway homeless. The main reason that people end up in their cars is because income does not match housing costs. If I could just only work one job, I could have more time with them. It is time for the owners of Walmart, McDonald's, Dollar General, and other large corporations to get off welfare and pay their workers a living wage. And if you really want to tackle racial equity,

you have to raise the minimum wage. We're not just fighting for our families. We're fighting for yours, too. We need this. I'm going to fight for it until we get it. I'm not going to give up. We just need all workers to stand up as one nation and just fight together.

Families are relying on these salaries, and they must be paid at a minimum $15 an hour. $15 a minimum and then we should be making this a bit of a stay out of poverty. I can't take it no more. I'm doing this for not only me but for everybody. We need $15 right now. For me, the reason I see the value, so my parents worked elections. They volunteered for campaigns. They ran phone banks. I remember being 7, eight, nine years old.

It was like you had no choice. It's not like you had to vote. It was like, yo, go over there for the next eight hours, stand there, and hand out these pamphlets to anybody who's walking in, and then we'll bring you lunch, and then you've got some water for yourself. It was kind of like, okay. Again, it wasn't like my brother could say, no, we're all right. We're going to stay at the house.

I didn't work that way. And so for me, that was a huge part of my upbringing. And look at you now. And it's very interesting because for me, service was a huge part of my upbringing. And that's just something that's just, you know, it's a natural thing. I don't think twice about going out and doing community service. I don't think twice about giving up my Saturday mornings, even if I stayed out late on Friday night. I don't think twice about going out and doing community service. I don't think twice about giving up my Saturday mornings, even if I stayed out late on Friday night. I don't think twice about going to church in the mornings.

I think that might be even bigger than the civics piece in schools. I think that at this point, having that in schools at least gives the children the opportunity to go home and ask their parents, so mom, dad, what is this? What do you think we should do about this? This is what I learned in school today. Let's talk about it. At least gives the children something to bring home and start a conversation with. However, if the parents start that for the children, then, you know, then the children can go to school and say, hey, why am I not learning this here? Why don't I have a civics class? You know what I mean? And they'll have,

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by going to RolandMartinUnfiltered.com. Our goal is to get 20,000 of our fans contributing 50 bucks each for the whole year. You can make this possible. RolandMartinUnfiltered.com. All right, so a lot of y'all are always asking me about some of the pocket squares that I wear. Now, I don't, and Robby don't have one on.

Now, I don't particularly like the white pocket squares. I don't like even the silk ones. And so I was reading GQ magazine a number of years ago, and I saw this guy who had this pocket square here, and it looks like a flower. This is called a shibori pocket square. This is how the Japanese manipulate the fabric to create this sort of flower effect. So I'm going to take it out and then place it in my hand so you see what it looks like. And I said, man, this is pretty cool. And so I tracked down, it took me a year to find a company that did it. And so they basically have about 47 different colors. And so I love them because, again, as men, we don't have many accessories to wear, so we don't have many options. And so this is really a pretty cool pocket square.

What I love about this here is you saw when it's in the pocket, you know, it gives you that flower effect like that. But if I wanted to also unlike other because if I flip it and turn it over, it actually gives me a different type of texture. So therefore it gives me a different look. So there you go. So if you actually want to get one of these Shibori pocket squares, we have them in 47 different colors, all you got to do is go to rollinglessmartin.com forward slash pocket squares. So it's rollinglessmartin.com forward slash pocket squares. All you got to do is go to my website and you can actually get this.

Now, for those of you who are members of our Bring the Funk fan club, there's a discount for you to get our pocket squares That's why you also got to be a part of our bring the funk fan club And so that's what we want you to do and so it's pretty cool So if you want to jazz your look up you can do that in addition Y'all see me with some of the feather pocket squares. My sister was a designer. She actually makes these they're all custom-made So when you also go to the website, you can also order one of the feather pocket squares. My sister who's a designer, she actually makes these. They're all custom made. So when you also go to the website, you can also order one of the customized

feather pocket squares right there at rollinglessmartin.com forward slash pocket squares. So please do so. And of course, it goes to support the show. And again, if you're a Bring the Funk fan club member, you get a discount. This is why you should join the fan club. Hi, I'm Kim Burrell.

Hi, I'm Carl Painting. Hey, everybody, this is Sherri Shepherd. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Black TV does matter, dang it. Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your boy, Jacob Lattimore, and you're now watching Roland Martin right now. Hi, my name is Latoya Luckett. Yo, your man dion co from blackish and you're watching

roland martin unfiltered stay woke carl payne pretended to be roland martin holla hi i'm chaley rose and you're watching roland martin unfiltered all right folks so here's what so here's what we're trying to do so this is not a a normal or traditional uh uh dvd player so that's that's that's that's part of the part of the issue um what they did is they they gave us uh basically it basically it's a bunch of data that's on here. So what we're trying to do is, and it's saying this is view one. So we're trying to sit here, we had to grab, let's see, exported views. So it's in an editing system and we're trying to actually play it here. This is and so we're not sure like at what point is the video where it starts. We're hearing audio. So let's see if I can. There timeline, we know the shooting took place it says two hours.

Yes, the glare. I see it. Now you can hear, yeah, so you, I know it's real hard, so we're trying to see. Let's do it back again. So we're trying to figure out again, y'all this is all on the fly that we're trying to get y'all, this is all on the fly that we're live here. This was the city camera, and so I'm trying to find it on here. So I'm hearing audio,

so I'm trying to advance it down the timeline here. It's camera. All right, so we're trying to find it. Let me see if I can advance it. There's an ambulance here. as part of the issue that we have. This is not normal in terms of how video is on here. So we're trying to actually find it for you on here to figure out exactly where the video is. So let me, this says view one. So I'm trying to go back out of here, folks,

to see if we can actually find the proper view. And it says, like I'm seeing down here all cameras in the view Roanoke and Brooks he's on Perry so this is Perry Street and so that's what we'm trying to sit here and bring in, let me see, I have, that's here. We see Roanoke and Brooks microphone and Roanoke microphone one. We're seeing media data right here. No. Like I say, it's a lot of different functions on here. Like I said, I have not used a PC Let me see if I can find Windows Media on here. And then that will allow me to play Windows Media Player open. Let me see if that'll allow me to play it. Okay, all right. Again, y'all be patient with me.

Recommended settings. This is a totally new computer of our driver. So, let'm in Windows Media Player, it says that there's no do folks is we're just going to like say we so it can't so again is not encoded the way you normally encode video so I can't play it in Windows Media Player so we're gonna have to actually import it into an editing system which is what which is what I did in so and this is the editing system I have no idea what it is and so and so

we're trying to figure it out what's going on so so let's just do this here we are going to like like like Lily is saying connected to camera and you know and I'm not sure again this is zoom out this is a zoom out here so there's a timeline down here and I'm not sure even what that timeline is so I'm trying to scrub it I'm trying to move this again this is the editing system this is a system I have I'm not familiar with at all so we're taking it back to the beginning of here so this down here says two hours and then okay let me try to expand this. Okay, April. So the shooting took place on April 21st.

Okay, let me see if I can try to move forward. Sorry, folks. Yeah, we're unable to, whatever this system, how they use it on this camera, don't have it. So, I mean, on this system. So, here's what we're going to do. We're going to work with this video. We're going to take it back to our control room. We're headed back to D.C. tonight. We're going to go back to our control room we're headed back to DC tonight we're gonna go back to our control room we're gonna put this

through a different editing software we're just gonna allow us to pull this video up and then so on tomorrow's show we're gonna do a full breakdown of this video and show you exactly what it is showing. My apologies. Again, we did not know what form they were sending the video in. It's not in traditional video files, so we're not sure exactly in terms of what's going on with it. So that's where we are, folks. So we do have it. This is the video that the city

provided to us so on tomorrow's roller martin unfiltered we're gonna have a full breakdown of this video uh as we uh and we'll have it in complete playback we'll be able to record it properly uh and do that uh and so uh so the video is on the dvd we have it nothing is deleted you can't delete from a dvd player uh don't be cute with it folks so that's uh where we are uh and so oh for all y'all saying no the issue isn't the issue is not that it's a pc the problem is the video is not uh normally how you pull up video files okay and so it's a whole different way they have the videos on here get to import them into an editing system and that's what we have so uh we're going to sit here and uh and uh handle this for you tomorrow let me thank uh kelly

let me thank ben let me thank uh mustafa for being on our panel today a lot of moving parts for us today folks being here in elizabeth city don't forget tomorrow uh there is going to be the court hearing where they're going to try to go to court to get the additional videos released. So we will have an update on that. And after the show, after the show, what we'll do is Keenan is going to be who will live stream the minister's news conference. Reverend Dr. William J. Barber, Reverend Dr. Spearman and others that took place today here in Elizabeth City. And so that is it for us, folks. We certainly appreciate it.

Thank all of you for joining us. We ask you again to support us in what we do. Your dollars make it possible. Your dollars bought this vehicle. This allows for us to be able to have a mobile studio, for us to be able to travel. And so if y'all could please support us by joining our Bring the Funk fan club. Every dollar that you give goes back to support this show. To hire staff, to pay crews, to pay for equipment, all these different things.

I can guarantee you one thing is going to happen. I've got two portable DVD players. One is a DVD, one is a Blu-ray. Yeah, I'll be having the DVD player in my bag to carry with us next time. And so, sorry about that. But, hey, look, when you're live, you're live. These things happen. So we want you all to support what we do.

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been covering this story people have been driving by uh thanking us uh for our coverage uh hey again michael gordon i said gibson yesterday he said man my brother and a bunch of people called me who watch your show he said his he said it's gordon not gibson i said i said i will correct it don't worry about it uh michael gordon we appreciate that uh and uh it, don't worry about it Michael Gordon, we appreciate that and again don't forget, if y'all give on YouTube we only get 55% of that they keep 45, YouTube announced

they shed all of their revenue records and so we'd appreciate it if y'all actually give the money to us direct we would appreciate it no, we're not going to show the video later tonight because we still got to drive back and we got to put through the right system so we're going going to show the video later tonight because we still got to drive back and we got to put through the right system. So we're going to show you the video tomorrow on Roland Martin Unfiltered.

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