#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Andrew Brown video shows execution; Daunte Wright family got death threats; Chauvin on suicide watch

Episode Date: April 27, 2021

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Today is Monday, April 26, 2021. Roland Martin on the filter broadcasting live from Elizabeth City, North Carolina, where folks have been protesting, demanding the release of body camera footage in the fatal shooting death of Andrew Brown Jr., shot and killed last week, one day after Derek Chauvin was found guilty of the murder of George Floyd. It was a contentious day. We'll describe for you what took place. You'll hear from Andrew's son. You'll hear from attorneys Ben Crump, Bakari Sellers, Reverend Dr. William J. Barber.

We'll also take you to the scene where the Spadal shooting took place, where one of the attorneys walks us through what happened. And across the street from Andrew Brown, we talked to a man where a bullet came through his home, came through two rooms. Had he not gone to work early, he could have been killed sitting at his breakfast table. Also, Attorney General Merrick Garland, he is going to have an examination of the Louisville Police Department, but they've also had a spate of shootings. Folks, it's a busy day. It's time to breathe the funk. A roll-a-mart on the fact, the fine. And when it breaks, he's right on time. And it's rolling. Best believe he's knowing. Putting it down from sports to news to politics.

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Now Martin Hey, folks, what you're looking at is a live look as we stand outside of the public safety building here in the county where Elizabeth, North Carolina, is. You see there are protesters who are out here. Folks have been protesting since last Wednesday when Andrew Brown Jr. was shot and killed by several sheriff's deputies as they served an arrest warrant at his home here in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. This is a city of 17,000 people, about 50-50 African-American and white. been running high because of the sheriff's department they have been not being transparent and unwilling to release the body camera footage that took place on that particular day they have been very scant and releasing details about what took place as well here's what we know as of now last week when this took place it was on wednesday wednesday morning around 8 a.m when these uh sheriff's deputies descended upon uh his home andrew Brown Jr.'s home in the 200 in the 400 block of Perry Street. There was an altercation. They came out, guns blazing, firing shots into his car.

He then tried to get away from them. He spun out, drove the car across the street street crashed into the tree in a neighbor's yard and that's where he died now today at 11 30 a.m there was supposed to be an opportunity for the family and their lawyers to actually watch the body camera footage that was the agreement with the sheriff they got here at 11 30 but it wasn't ready they were told they had to redact the video blur the faces of the officers involved that was the first issue then what took place they came back at 1 30 they then they were supposed to see the video then there was drama as to who would be allowed to see the video they tried to say only one or two family members then the county attorney would not allow the actual lawyers in. He then asserted only attorneys who are under the jurisdiction of the North Carolina Bar Association, they could go in.

Folks, that's actually unheard of. There was a news conference today where Ben Crump, Bakari Sellers, and others, the other attorneys, were angry with what took place. They said they had never seen anything like this before. Here is a roundup of that news conference here in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. We want to say on the record from the onset, we do not feel that we got transparency. We only saw a snippet of the video when we know that the video started before and after what they showed the family and they determined what was pertinent why couldn't the family see all the video they They only show one body cam video, even though we know there

were several body cam videos if they were following the law and the policy in this county that everybody has video cameras on their uniforms. Furthermore, and you're going to hear from Attorney Sellers and Attorney Daniels on this matter, to add insult to injury, two family members see the video with no legal counsel, as if they did not have a right to have their legal counsel present when they watched this execution of their loved one. And we have to keep demanding transparency because we do not feel what the county attorney offered was transparency at all and so it's very emotional not only the video but how this family was disrespected even in the aftermath you talk about insult on top of injury. But be not dismayed. The truth will come out. The video will be seen by the public and we will get justice for Andrew Brown Jr. These police

officers will be held accountable. We want to highlight the disrespect to this family. I want to highlight the broken system of justice we have in this country. As we're going through this process, we told the family that they would have their attorneys in there as some comfort. We went back and forth, and I just want you to say I've never been talked to like I was talked to in there. I don't know his name, but I went to the back, and I know that we're live on the news around the world, so I will say that Mr. Cox told me, a grown black man,

that he was not fucking going to be bullied. Wow. And so I walked out, and I want you to know that the sheriff was very, very apologetic and diplomatic. The sheriff wanted to make sure that the family saw the video, but it was the county attorney that gave us this back and forth. But let's not focus just on the disrespect shown to me. Let's focus on the disrespect shown to this family. One body cam. 20 seconds in execution. One body cam, 20 seconds,

in an execution. And so with all due respect, I know there were a lot of people who thought last week's verdict was justice, and I told you then it wasn't justice, because we still can't give justice and accountability today. I'm only going to be brief,

because I'm hot right now. But I do want to say a special prayer goes out to this family. Because Khalil saw his father executed. But he's been the strongest one of us all. So lift him up in your prayers. And then as we say in South Carolina, I know we in North Carolina, to the county attorney and everybody else, bless his heart. This family had a fundamental right for transparency that was denied,

denied by the county officials of Pasquotank County, specifically the county attorney, because he does not interpret the laws of North Carolina. His position that you have to be an authorized, a licensed attorney in the state of North Carolina to represent folks. I offered him the ability to read the state bar rules, the rules of the bar. He didn't want to read it. We offered an attorney general to him.

He didn't want to talk to him. We offered a governor. He told Bacar he's not going to be bullied. 20 seconds. 20 seconds is not transparency when you've got multiple officers gunning down a man with his hands on the steering wheel and trying to get away. We will have justice. We will have justice. Let's be clear.

This was an execution. Andrew Brown was in his driveway. The sheriff truck blocked him in his driveway so he could not exit his driveway. Andrew had his hands on his steering wheel. He was not reaching for anything. He wasn't touching anything. He wasn't throwing anything around. He had his hands firmly on the steering wheel. They run up to his vehicle shooting. He still there in his vehicle with

steering wheel while being mind, this is 20 seconds. of notes for 20 seconds. and over and over to make sure we were clea being going on and what w he finally decides to try at all. There was at no t the officers in any kind of way.

He was trying to evade being shot. So he backs out, not forward, but backs out away from the officers who are still shooting at him, yelling, stop it, motherfucker, goddamn motherfucker. Constant obscenities being yelled at him while he's been shot at in the driveway of his home in Pasquotank County, North Carolina. I'm taking my time y'all, but it was 20 seconds. He finally backs out and then he goes around to get out of danger. He goes around still avoiding any interaction with officers,

still trying to make sure he did not threaten them in any way, that they were not in danger in any way. He backs out, goes around them, and they're still shooting at him while he's driving off. He drives off the car, runs into a tree and they are still running behind him. Let me make sure I get this right with these guns that were there. Bushmaster AR 223 and Glock 17 handguns. It was numerous. So there was assault. Numerous assault rifles were at the scene. We saw one video, 20 seconds from one body cam. It was at least eight officers there. We only saw one body cam. It was a sheriff's truck there. We didn't see any dash cam video. We just saw that one body cam. And he was still, excuse me. Yeah, he was still, I just want to make it clear that he was, he had, there was still shooting at him after the car had already crashed into a tree. There was still still in the stance of shooting

towards him. His car is riddled with bullets from them shooting at him when he was not in any threatening them in any kind of any kind of form of fashion like we against all odds in this world my dad got executed just by trying to save his own life you know he was not in no the officers was not in no harm of him at all it's just messed up how this happened, man. For real. Last video you saw, was the police vehicle marked or unmarked? Marked. Was marked. Yes. Were they in uniform or were they not?

Some of them was in SWAT. Some of them had on jeans and khakis with the upper part in uniform. In the audio portion, did you hear them identify themselves? Did you hear them say to him who they were and who they were? They had cut that part out. 20 seconds, we didn't get a lot. All they said was, hold on, let me look at my note, make sure I get it correct. Take your time.

I don't know how this works. Second one, guns drawn pointing at him while his hands are on the steering wheel. Let me see your hands. His hands are on the steering wheel. It was at least five on the driver's side pointing the guns at him. Let me see your hands. That's where it started at the one-second mark. So you did not see the beginning, them driving up?

No. Did you see that? No. The beginning of this video was them standing with guns pointed at them. Yes. Shots were already being fired. Shots were already being fired by the time we saw it. And then someone was running from the other side of the street, another officer. So not before, but when you saw, as soon as the video starts, you already hear shots? Yes. And to my understanding, the body cam that was shown was an officer furthest away, not the officers who were right in front of him. Right.

So that's the body cam they showed. So there were five cops standing on the driver's side. You did not see the body cam from those five cops. No, no, we didn't see that. So what was the vantage point? Behind the car, side of the car? On the side of the car, running across the street. So he was running, the officer that we saw. On the other side of the truck. Right.

So it wasn't anyone who was shooting? No. He was shooting too at some point. Yes. And the video, the video started with the shots coming. It was an execution in Elizabeth City from second one. Yeah. Let me just help you all answer the questions about the discernment between what was shown and what was not. You got to ask them. All right, folks, it was, of course, again, lots of confusion there. The sheriff's department, the county not being forthcoming at all. Prior to the family going in, prior to that news conference i caught up with reverend

dr william j barber of course co-convener of repairs of the breach long time president of the north carolina in state chapter state conference of the naacp here's what he had to say unusual to have sheriff's department involved in a fatal shooting and still leading the investigation. Highly unusual. Highly unusual. And this is in North Carolina. The VA could immediately ask the Attorney General to take it over. Immediately. They can invite the FBI immediately in.

There's no reason that they could not turn that tape over. That tape could come out immediately. They say, well, they've got to get a court order. Well, get the court order. It doesn't take five days. And almost everybody's assured that if something was on that tape that would exonerate the police, it would have been out. Now they want to redact the tape.

Here's the problem with redaction. This is not a matter of national security. Well, the killing is a matter of national security because all these killings are impacting our security, our safety, black people. And to us, it doesn't matter if the cops are black or brown or white. It could be mixed. That's not the issue. The issue is these tapes should be out.

So this is very unusual. And for them to tell the lawyers that they were going to give them the whole tape, the whole raw footage, and then now to turn around and say, well, we're going to redact it, and now not to be ready, this is highly unusual. The prosecutor could immediately say, I want to take the state attorney general. I talked to the attorney general this morning. Is he prepared to take this over if that request is made? I don't want to speak for him, but I think the attorney generals in this state have proven themselves to be ready. They've proven themselves time and time again. Remember in the Duke

La Crosse case? They took it over. In the case of Jonathan Farrell, they took it over. In the case of Jonathan Farrell and Shaw, they took it over. So there's a precedent in this state. But this foolishness, this foolishness, it only makes it worse. The shooting took place the day after Derek's show. The day after Derek's show. That was Wednesday. That was Wednesday. Here we are on Monday.

You've already had several officers reassigned. Three resigned. Three resigned. Seven only. seven one of course they said that's on that's that's not related to this shooting well we don't know that because we don't know what the tapes say and in addition to that we have audio and audio says that they recalled it in and said a man was shot in the back they said said the audio. Now, what have they not found? No gun on him, no drugs. It was a warrant. Why? So when the other day when we were in our press conference, the question became, why in the world? One of the reporters here locally asked,

did you all know that SWAT went out again? We like SWAT. We didn't know that. OK, so that's some issue is why is why in the world did you load up like that? We don't know if these were assault rifles. What we do know is that the audio said it was a back shoot. That he was wounded in the back. No, he knows what he's doing. His mic is right here. We're good. Yeah, mic's right here. In terms of with this case,

county commissioners initially came out and said they would support the sheriff. They have jurisdiction over this sheriff. They do, because the sheriff is elected. He is elected. Now, he's paid for by the county, but he's an elected officer, so they can't remove him. He can resign. But isn't it also problematic in that he's elected and these folks out here are saying he is not being responsive enough to the citizens who elected him? Who elected him. Whether they voted for him or not, he is the sheriff of the county.

See, that's the thing we got to understand. You don't have to just do what the people that voted for you, because some of the folk may not have voted for him. I don't know that. But once he gets elected, he is voted. You see what I'm saying? Once he gets elected, he is a voter. And he's the sheriff of the whole county.

Families and the lawyers are looking at this body cam footage. We hope. We hope. We don't know because it's just standing there. Right. They haven't gone back. So you got that. And three aunts are out here.

Have they indicated that after they actually show it to them, are they going to release it? They have not indicated that we know of. Right now what we're hearing is for the lawyers who have said that all they're talking about is showing it to the lawyers and some family. The lawyer and some family.

Not even the whole family is in there. The aunts aren't in there. Do you believe that if they continue to delay this, things have been peaceful already, but these folks are getting restless with the lack of answers, the lack of transparency. Already they declared this all week, schoolchildren here, virtual, not sitting in classrooms, that the protests will intensify, will get larger, and people will continue because of the failure to be transparent. That's right. I worry a lot always because, first of all, it should never happen. Second of all, look at what we've had

since the children's high. We've had, what, three teenagers shot. We had another man shot in Virginia Beach, and now they're shooting here all dead. This is a boiling point and people are tired, people are scared, people are angry and transparency is the only way. We need transparency and if there's a murder or an execution by a cop, we need accountability. We need prosecution without immunity. We need prison. We need federal laws to come in here and look at our practice and what they call it practice that look at the practices of them well in fact while we out here turn to America Arlen the France they're gonna be looking at the Louisville Police Department area now last week

the man is come right on down they need to keep right on coming they come over south and come on east and we need to make it so that when this stuff happens, if there's payment, it needs to come out of these police departments and from these police pensions. But the last thing we need is for this kind of playing of game. Yeah. That's the problem. We need to deal with that. All right, folks.

That was Reverend Dr. William J. Barber. Okay, Henry, so we'll do a little bit different. I want you to go to the drone shot, folks. And so this is a shot. You see us in the bottom left-hand corner there. You see our roll-of-the-mart unfiltered tent. And so the protesters were in front, but what they've now done is they've actually now marched down the street.

So let me give you guys a live look of the protesters. Let's see if I can find them. There you go. And so they have been marching down the street. And so let's see if we can get to them. You see them there there as we right there so i take it down sorry folks and so they have been uh again they have been have had these daily protests uh going on here uh in elizabeth city uh since the shooting take took place and so you see there's different groups there and so I'm going to try to just go a little bit faster to get to those protesters there you see them and I believe that they are a hit out we drove

earlier and I believe that they are hit it so it's all right so here we go so you see them there, folks. So they are headed, actually, to the direction of where Andrew Brown was shot and killed. It is not far. It's actually 1.2 miles away from the public safety office. And so that's where they are headed. And so we have been, of course, here all day. And, folks, to understand how bad this has been, it's the lack of answers.

It's the lack of answers that people have been complaining about significantly from the Sheriff's Department. As you heard me question Ben Crump and Bakari Sellers in that particular news conference, the fact that the district attorney is missing in all of this, which makes no sense whatsoever. Earlier, we had an opportunity to actually show where they are headed, where these protesters are headed, where they're headed is to the home of Andrew

Brown Jr. Anthony and I went by there earlier with Wayne Kendall, one of the lawyers on this case, and he took us through and described at the scene what took place on Wednesday. Here is that interview. All right, folks, we're here with attorney Wayne Kendall. He's a part of the legal team for the Andrew Brown Jr. family. We are here at his home. This is where the shooting took place. Wayne, take us through what happened. Mr. Brown was in his car, in his vehicle, in this driveway with the front of the vehicle facing the street.

So the front of the vehicle was facing this way. It's facing Parris Street, which is the street you're standing in. He was sitting in the car when the sheriff's deputies rolled up in pickup trucks and other police vehicles. And then, and apparently they started giving commands and he to put his hands up or put his hands where they can see him. He put his hands on the steering wheel. So do you know if the police came from this direction or this direction? My understanding is they came from this direction off road. So they came from this direction here. So they, so they pulled up right in front of here.

That's correct. Which means that when they pulled up, they could actually see him. Right. He was facing them. He was facing them. And apparently, at some point, they started shooting through the vehicle.

And my understanding was that they were using a.223 AR-15 assault-style rifle as well as handguns. And when that happened, he started to back up. You see the mud on the side of the home over there? Right. That's the home he was driving in. Let's walk over here.

So what you're saying is he's facing that way. They come up. So he decides to start backing up. And so we see the tire tracks right here. What happened is, if you look carefully at these tire tracks, you'll see over here that this is a double tire track. He bagged up, and then he started to go forward. This is a double tie track. He bagged up, and then he started to go forward. This is a double tie track.

You see a line of grass through the track, so there's a double tie track here. He started spinning out and shooting mud up onto the side of the house. Right. If you follow the tie tracks car you can see a second time track right here so he backed up there and then all of a sudden he starts trying to drive drive way through here and he drives through here and you can see him follow the time track and then the car swerves and crashes into that tree over there in Mr. Gordon's yard. So he crashed, he crashed, so he came across here.

Right. And he crashed into that tree over there. Crashed into that tree, and all the time he was driving across here, it was shooting into the vehicle. Right. So he came across here, and he crashed into that tree over there. Crashed into that tree over there, and he was shooting into the vehicle. So the vehicle came to arrest against that tree? Against that tree.

And they were shooting into the vehicle reportedly from a witness that I talked to and apparently from the video that our co-counsel saw today, they were continuously shooting into the vehicle and officers were standing out in this grassy field here as he was rolling across. He had lost control of the car after being hit and he was hit in the back of the neck and in the back of the head and some other bullet wounds in other parts of his body, like his arms. And he crashed into that tree.

And my understanding from the witness that was looking from that house down there, that greenhouse, is that he crashed into that tree, and then they went around the vehicle and continued to shoot into the vehicle. Even after he had crashed? Even after he had crashed. Now, the witness you're talking about, she knew him well. That's right. And he had sent her a text.

Tell me about that. My understanding is that he sent her a text at 8.20 a.m. on last Wednesday. And at 8.26, he was deceased. So it took six minutes? Six minutes. six he was deceased so it was it took six minutes six minutes from the moment he texted her to them to them uh to to me was over here on the tree deceased with bullet wounds in his head in the back of his head so they've only showed 20 seconds of video so the whole encounter very well was in in the five to six minute range i don't know if it took that long.

Right. I doubt if it took that long because my understanding is that he texts her at 820, and then by the time she got to her window to look out to see if he was walking toward her house because she thought he was coming to her house. Because he often did that. He often did that. She's married to a significant other with his cousin, and he would always sometimes visit her in her house with his cousin.

She thought he might have been coming over to visit. So she looked out the window to see if he was walking toward her house, and that's when she saw his vehicle sitting in this parking pad here. And by the same time that she saw the vehicle sitting in the parking pad, she sees the sheriff pull up. And when she sees the sheriff's vehicles pull up, shortly after that, she sees him bag his vehicle up and spin out across this vacant lot and end up into that tree.

And it traumatized her so much. She's an epilepsy sufferer. She has been having continuous seizures. As a result, she says she cannot go to sleep. She cannot close her eyes. She cannot. She was traumatized by the event. She knew him well.

Hmm. And she's now, I mean, she was crying when she was recounting this story to me this morning. And it was last Wednesday, almost a week ago. And she said she can't get this out of her head. She's been having continuous seizures. And that she's at a loss to how to cope with all of this. Now, you see that house over there?

You see that 500? You see that 2 o'clock? Yeah. That's one of the bullet holes. Went through hisclock. Yeah. That's one of the bullet holes. Went through his house. Wow. Somebody in that house could have been injured and killed. Went into his home. He allowed a Fox News person to come in.

That bullet went through a wall and hit a pot on his stove. Wow. It's a miracle somebody else wasn't injured or killed. Exactly. I mean, you can see how close these homes are. These guys were out here with high-powered.223. This was told to us today, that they were out here with AR-15 assault style rifles shooting in this neighborhood. And they were allegedly executing a search warrant, a drug warrant, an arrest warrant?

An arrest warrant is what I've seen. I've seen an arrest warrant. I don't know about a search warrant. Got it. We haven't seen a search warrant yet, but people have reported that they had a search warrant. I don't know if they had a search warrant. Got it. Okay haven't seen a search warrant yet, but people have reported that they had a search warrant. I don't know if they had a search warrant. Got it. Okay.

All right. We appreciate it. All right. Thanks a lot. I need to talk to this guy. All right, folks, a little bit later, we're going to show you that interview with that neighbor. Had he been sitting at his breakfast table, that bullet would have hit him in the head. Wait until we show you.

He takes us inside his house, and you will see it. But right now, I want to go to my panel. Bernarda Glalona, she's a senior trial counsel with the Joey Jackson Law Firm. Julianne Malveaux, economist, president, and mayor of Bennett College here in North Carolina. Also, Eugene Craig, CEO, Eugene Craig Organization. Bernarda, I want to start with you. Have you ever heard anything like what you heard today, Bernardo, where the county attorney says if you're not under the jurisdiction of the North Carolina Bar, you can't come in, and then only releasing 20 seconds of the video.

The actions out here have been just astounding. Roland, that first part is so shady. I have never heard that in my life. And I've been practicing law for 16 years. And I was a prosecutor for 16 years. That's the first I ever heard of that. So let's be real. And this is the problem.

That when you have police-involved killings of anyone, any type of person, African American person, whatever other race, the reality is, is that there should be a separate division, a separate entity that should be investigating those police officers. The same thing goes with the prosecutor's office. That prosecutor's office for that county that only has, I believe, 18,000 people in that county should have a prosecutor outside of that county that only has, I believe, 18,000 people in that county, should have a prosecutor outside of that county that's investigating this case, because the ties are just too close when you're talking about the police officers and the prosecutors in this case. That's the first problem that you have here. So the attorney general should be stepping in and either prosecuting the case themselves or assigning a

separate prosecutor's office to investigate the case on the prosecution side and then a separate entity on the law enforcement side to investigate this case because you know if there is no transparency there is no trust in the system regardless of what the outcome of this case would be. But in my conversation with Reverend Dr. William Barber, Bernarda, the AG just simply can't take it over. He has to be actually asked to take it over by the district attorney. The problem here is that the DA is missing in action. I asked the question specifically at the news conference, and I think we included it, folks, if we didn't, please find it,

where I specifically asked, was the DA's office present? Bakari Sellers said no. So how in the world can you have a situation where the sheriff's office, there are several officers who were involved in this shooting and the sheriff's office is running the investigation and they are redacting video. That's what the DA's office should have taken this thing over. Absolutely, Roland. This is pure nonsense. And I thank God that you are out there at the very beginning and showing you this nonsense, showing us this nonsense so the people can

actually see. That prosecutor for that county is elected. So for the citizens of that county, where's your prosecutor that you elected? Where's the person that you put on charge to be held accountable for any crimes that take place in your jurisdiction, in your county? Where are you? This is a shame to all prosecutors. That person is making a prosecutor's office look bad. That person is the prime reason why there is no trust with prosecutors or with law enforcement. That is a shame right there. Julianne Malveaux, you spent time here in North Carolina, as I said, President Emerita of Bennett College. And in my conversations here with people who are here in Elizabeth City, one of the things that they've said is that

in many ways, black folks here have been ignored. And in fact, I talked to the president of the NAACP chapter, and he said, rarely do we even get North Carolina news here. Last night I was watching television. I saw more Virginia television commercials than I did from North Carolina. And they said that they are often ignored. They are often not paid attention to. News media here does not really focus on them as well. And so they said it's important to have national voices shining a light,

demanding these answers, because otherwise they will just simply just ignore them. In fact, it's media organizations that are going to court on Wednesday to try to get the body cam footage released. You know, Roland, Carolina is a very interesting state. There's aspects of it that are rather progressive, but aspects that simply are not. There are some parts of it that are back in the 19th century. And in terms of crimes

against black people, often basically shoved under the rug. I could tell you stories, which I won't. I think I've told you a couple of them before about, you know, the differential justice that even our students got. So black students that attended A&T were held to a much harsher standard than the hell of a villain deficient. I mean, a couple of stories don't even bear on the air except for one where a young white boy actually defecated on a police.

And they think he can drink. Meanwhile, some of my girls had a little party. By little, I mean the music came out of their laptop. How loud? They didn't have speakers. And they were taken to jail. Taken to jail. So this is the man.

That, you know, this is all about so-called unconstitutional. I don't even think. Hold tight. Hold tight one second. Julian, we're having some issues with your audio. We're having some issues with your audio. You're literally hearing every other word. So we're going to try to work on that and fix that.

Bernard, I want to go back to you. 20 seconds. My God, 20 seconds. You have a number of cops on the street. In fact, there were a couple of positions on that street where they had cameras, city-owned cameras. The Sheriff's Department, which is the county, has taken possession of those videos. That's the city.

This is such a shame, Roland. I mean, I'm getting so hot just sitting here just listening to you because this is so ridiculous of what's going on. It's a shame to the people of that county. It's a shame to the people of North Carolina. It's actually a shame and sad for us as a community to be watching how this so-called justice is playing out. Look, I don't know what happened to Mr. Andrew. I don't know. I don't know if the cops were justified. But the problem that I have with all of this is that there is no leadership, there is no transparency, and there's a whole bunch of shadiness that's going on.

And that is not the way that the criminal justice system should work. That is not the way to get the trust of the community. That is not the way for the community to trust in you, the prosecutor, or to trust in you, the criminal justice system, or to trust in you in law enforcement. And that is the problem that I have. Where is the leadership? Where is the separation so there can be the appearance, the appearance that there is no bias or that this investigation is not tainted? This is ridiculous. And let me just take it to another level, Roland, because in every state, there is the Victims' Rights Act.

In North Carolina, there's the Victims Rights Act. In North Carolina, there's the Victims Rights Act. So for this man who died, his family, his son has the right to know what is going on at every crucial level of this investigation and the prosecution, if any. And that is not happening in this case. And it is a shame and it is disgusting for that city to have to show off that this is what they have to offer. It takes people like you, Roland Martin, and Ben Crump, and the other media outlets to go out there to bring that information back to us

so we can know what's going on and for us to talk about it so the change that needs to happen, we can start working on it. I think we've got Julian's audio taken care of. Julian, one of the things that folks were concerned about, first of all, and let's do this here, where we are now again. So if you see, Anthony, let's get the shot over here so uh the protesters were over here uh and and supposedly uh counter protesters in support of the police were supposed to be out here they didn't show up there was also some concern of people here about antifa uh showing

up and one of the things that they wanted to make clear, the folks here, that they have been peaceful. They've been peacefully protesting here since the beginning, but they want to keep the pressure going. And that's really important. Julianne, this is one of those moments, I dare say, that if you have what people call oftentimes a sleepy town. This is one of those things that can wake a city up, that can wake a town up, much like what happened in Ferguson with Michael Brown. Absolutely. I think that oftentimes people swallow the injustice because it's not so vivid. This is very vivid. This man was shot, I don't know how many times, and it doesn't seem like anybody else does either, but multiple shots, unnecessary, didn't have to do it.

And you see the outpouring of support from the community. This is personal. When someone says shoplifting or, you know, noise pollution or whatever, that's not personal. People say, okay, well, those are young people, whatever. But this is really personal for a whole lot of people. And in light of the Chauvin indictment, Chauvin guilty verdict, but then this week, I mean, last week after Chauvin, then we get this empty ground situation. We get the other situation with the young lady in Columbus, Ohio.

This is like if black people were a stone rock, this is like hitting the rock, hitting it, and hitting it, and hitting it. And you know, years ago, Richard Wright, the novelist of Native Sons said, it's not that I have been lynched, it's that I know about the lynching, which is a threat to me.

I feel that every Black man has someone been shaken. I think that every Black woman with sons has been shaken. And not even with sons, just by yourself, has been shaken. And so, yes, this sleepy town can wake up. Can wake up if people keep it moving. And if the so-called law enforcement does not do the wrong thing. You know, in Florida, they pass a law about defining what's a riot and what's a this and that. If the law enforcement people work with the protesters, this can be peaceful.

All right, folks, let's get the answer. We ready for the. All right. So here's the deal, y'all. I showed you that walkthrough with the attorney, Wayne Kendall. And then we walked across the street and we talked with Michael Gibson. Michael Gibson lives in the home with his wife, married 38 years. It was in his yard where Andrew Brown Jr.'s car crashed into a tree. Listen to him describe the aftermath. And not only that, one of those stray bullets fired by the cops, a high caliber weapon came through his home, went through two walls. If Michael Gibson had not, if he had been 30, if he had waited, because he said his wife went to work first, and then he went to work before that, they both left before 8 o'clock.

This took place around between 8.20 and 8.26. If Michael Gibson had delayed his leaving home by 15, 20 minutes, and if he had been sitting at his kitchen table, Michael Gibson likely would be dead because that bullet literally came through at the height of where he would be sitting in his kitchen listen to his description man talk about scary Wednesday morning I did you know I got a contact with my wife I call her and she says that my daughter was calling her home and they was here when I got here so I had to wait until the officers give me permission to come home my daughter and my wife was already in the house

you know sweeping up glass so so my daughter says, Dad, you been breaking anything when you leave this morning? I said, I don't know. That ain't broke nothing if I wouldn't have gotten it up. So she went back and rolled up, came back, drove around the tram and got to clear up. And I said, I ain't gonna let her see it. I said, something had happened. But when I got down to Trinidad and I was about a foot above her head.

She said, it's got to be in front of you where the house is. All right, folks. So we're going to get the audio track fixed. We have double audio there. Because I really want you all to listen to this. Because we have it fixed? Okay, all right. All right, fine. Now Anthony got it fixed. So let's go ahead and play the video from the time. My daughter doesn't live here.

Bye. So that Wednesday morning, you, your wife, and daughter were not here. No, we weren't here. My daughter doesn't live here. So at Wednesday morning, you, your wife, and daughter were not here? No, we weren't here. My daughter doesn't live here. It's just my wife and I reside here. So no one was here? No one was here. Thank goodness.

Amen, brother. And my wife left about quarter to eight, and I left about quarter after eight. My brother and I went to Lowe's. And I had to come back home and get in my shop and get something else. So when we got to coming from down, those coming down Patrick and Roanoke, they told us that we couldn't come in, that we had to find another way to get in. So we left and went back out of Roanoke, come back through, went down Walker Avenue, got to Walker Avenue, still couldn't let us in said something had

happened but when I got down and turned on Ray Street one of the young ladies that used to live in that house she told me said that they had just shot Drew and I'm like who's Drew you know so I said the guy that lives in front of you where the house that I used to live in. I said, what? They shot us. Yeah, they shot him about eight times what you heard. They heard the shots. So my brother and I said, look, man, this can't be, this don't know what we got to do.

So we went and started working. So when I'm working, my brother and I, we don't keep our phones with us and leave them in the truck. So when we did knock off, it was about maybe one, one, quarter after one. And we had, I had about 36 missed phone calls. My brother had a great many. So he called his wife, well his wife called him and told him that I needed to get home, Mike needed to get home because they done shot in his house. So I'm like, shot in my house? You know, but I didn't see none of this.

I mean, they wouldn't even let us get those orange recycling bins down there. That's as far as they would allow us to get. I couldn't see none of this. As a matter of fact, at that time, there wasn't no tent or nothing in my yard. It was just cops. There wasn't nothing in the yard. I didn't see the car. I didn't see anything. But anyway, when I did, I got in contact with my wife. I called her and she says that my

daughter had followed her home and they was already here when I got here. So I had to just wait until the officers give me permission to come home. But my daughter and my wife was already in the house, sweeping up glass. So my daughter says, dad, you've been breaking the thing for your leave this morning? She said, no, that ain't broke nothing. If I would have gotten it up. So she would come in to sweep up glass. So she asked me, what kind of glass daddy all got in here that's gold,

round and trim and clear and I said I ain't that's my clock so then when I looked up I seen that's when I seen where the projectile had come through and it went through my clock and on the wall where my wife

sits about a foot above her head where she sits across the room then I'm going wild now they done shot through my about a foot above her head when she sits across the room. Then I'm going wild. Now, they done shot through my house. So now, where they doing shooting at my house? That's where I am.

So then I goes in the kitchen and finds, looking at where I'm going, military. I looked at where things might have went or might have been. And then I look where my crock pot sits on the counter, and I see the indentation in my crock pot, and I looked down on the floor, and I see the projectile. Was that a.223 bullet? It was already. It had impacted, but it didn't look, it was heavy enough. It didn't look like no pistol round to me.

Right. Well, a.223 bullet is real small. Yeah, well, this here bullet there, the impact on it wasn't no bigger than that. When it hit the impact, that metal, it slowed it down some when it went through that wood. So that hole right there, that's the bullet? Yes. That's the bullet hole. That's where bullet? Yes. That's the bullet hole. So it went through here, then went through my other side of my front room.

Through the front room and then from the front room to the kitchen. It hit right there. Yeah, it started right here. Oh. It creased this. Wow. Man. Wow.

So that changed the trajectory. That's right. It brought it down. It brought it down. So it came from there, through there, through the front room, through the side of the room, through the side of the room, through my kitchen, through the kitchen, and on my counter. Man, thank goodness nobody was on. Praise God. For that. See, that's what I was trying to explain to them. They don't understand. They got people coming in, baby. Here, buddy. Yes, it came through.

You can look outside and see that. This is the clock. Yes. You can see where it came in. If you come over here, you can see daylight. Right here, you and see that. So this is the clock. Yes, you can see where it came in. If you come over here, you can see daylight through there. Yeah, right here, you can see that hole. So you can see the daylight right here. You can see right through that hole. Yeah, you can see through there.

So it came through here. It came through there. And then this is where my wife sits all the time. It hit this picture and went through there. Man. Got it. And then once it hit here, it came through that wall into this side wall here and came through this wall and hit here. Wow. So if y'all had not- If I sat there eating breakfast like I do,

that round would have went through Michael's head. See, you know? So you said your wife left first, you left a little bit after that. This happened around 8.30. Right. If for whatever 8.30. Right. If, for whatever reason, if y'all were 30 minutes late or whatever. We'd have been right here.

And then it hit my crop pot right here. Hit here and hit the crop pot right here. Yeah, it hit my crop pot right here. I see the indention right there. It hit it there and it landed up down there on the floor. Man. I sat there. I mean, it's dead center of my head. I sat there. It's dead center of my head when I sat in my chair eating breakfast.

Yeah, right here. Right there. Oh, absolutely. Sitting right there, man. It's crazy. I just try to tell them, I mean, I'm not mad with them guys, but the thing with it is you don't shoot like that. Don't do that. I mean, this is the thing with it is you don't shoot like that.

Don't do that. I mean, this is the residential area. You got the social services down there. You got the health department down there. You got a school down there. And people walk past this house and this yard and this sidewalk every day. And it doesn't make sense to discharge. If I had shot in an occupied dwelling,

those people would have had me on the ground where they need my damn neck. You know what I mean? They'd have had me locked down by now. They'd have had me, you know, the young man, Michael Gordon, proud veteran, shooting in houses. They'd have had me jacked up. You know, and it's crazy. How long did you know Andrew? Did you know him well? Yeah, I knew his dad, I knew his mother

and I knew him when he was a little puppy. I knew him when he was a little puppy but he didn't get no trouble around here in the hood you know whatever he did or whatever they said he done I don't know because you know I didn't feel like myself with too many people in the hood but he hadn't been recently about a good I'll say five months maybe it was less than that moved over there, you know Some of that reason don't about still there long. Thank God you know you know wiping and Yes, wasn't here man because like I said, that's what I'm really highly pissed off. She's still upstairs laying down there. She's trying to get it together. But I'm telling you, man, I've been married 38 years.

And something happened to my wife, man. I mean, you know, it's like this. If she perished, she perished. But don't let nobody shoot in my damn house and kill my wife and shoot my wife. See, they get me on the edge. You know what I mean? That's going to have me all crazy and jacked up. You know, and shoot my wife. See, they get me on the edge. You know what I mean? That's how me all crazy and jacked up. You know, and that's crazy.

Well, I appreciate you letting us in, but appreciate it, brother. Yeah, man. You're welcome. But I appreciate y'all for taking time out to hear this story tonight. Yes, indeed. You know, I know how it went,

and they should know better than that. Yep. Hey, Henry, I want you to actually, Henry, call him. I got you. I want you to go to the drone shot. I want you to go to the drone shot. Folks, while that video was playing, a number of folks all of a sudden, we saw about 10 police officers uh go down uh the street there uh and they went down to this parking lot over here uh and then uh they

were talking to someone uh in the corner there and then a number of the protesters basically followed them over there uh and so uh we were tracking So you see all the protesters there. And so all of the sheriff's folks, they were, looks like they've now gone inside, but they were all of a sudden congregating down there. And so not sure what was going on there, but we were recording and tracking the whole thing live with the drone just to keep an eye on what's going on. So you still see them assembled there. They've now gone back inside of the building there. And, again, not sure what was the action that was taking place, but we were tracking it the entire time.

And so, again, you got tensions. Let me just do this here. Let me take it up higher, folks, so you can see because they're not sure what's going on with the protesters there. But like I say, tensions are running high here. Give me one second. Okay, there you go. So you see some of the protesters there are, you know, talking with the police. Let me back the drone up so you can see this from this perspective.

So you see right here, again, not sure what's going on. What really caught our attention was to see, again, about 10 or 12 police officers, sheriff's deputies, go to that parking lot. And then about 15 or 20 protesters decided to follow behind them. And so we were just, again, just tracking that. So it looks like all of those sheriff's deputies have gone back into this is the building they've gone back into right here. And so it's not far from where we are. You see us there in the parking lot there in the distance. And so, Henry, you can come back to me.

And so, again, folks, we just wanted to keep abreast of that and what was happening there. Let's do this here, folks. We're going to go to a break, and we come back. We're going to continue talking about what's happening here in Elizabeth City, North Carolina, but also Attorney General Merrick Garland now saying the DOJ is going to do a widespread examination of the Louisville Police Department one week after he made the same announcement for Minneapolis. We're broadcasting live from Elizabeth City, North Carolina.

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Stay woke. All right, folks, welcome back. We're here in Elizabeth City, North Carolina, folks. Again, where so much of the focus uh is on this town uh last week um 42 year old black man andrew brown jr shot and killed uh by sheriff's deputies as they were trying to uh allegedly uh execute an arrest warrant for him uh and uh 20 seconds of the body cam footage was released today to the family. They say grossly unacceptable, simply not good enough, and so we have been on top of this here, got here last night,

and again was covering today. And here's what is extremely strange. I want to go back to Bernarda and Julian. Let me know if we have Eugene Craig. I believe we have him as well. Bernarda, here's what's unbelievable. Nothing today from the sheriff's office. No public statement from the county attorney.

No public statement from the county commissioners. We've been out here since 930 this morning. We have only heard from the family attorneys, the family and their supporters. That's it. No one from this city and county talking today. That makes no sense. These are elected officials. Exactly.

These are elected officials. The sheriff is elected. The prosecutor is elected. These are people that are put into office by the citizens of that county. And where is the accountability when you don't have these leaders showing up, getting in front of all of this to try to calm the community down or try to bring some patience to the community. And that lack of leadership is what upsets us and what is upsetting the community at this point. So if they don't want something to happen in that community, show your face what you were elected to do, and let's hear from you. What do you have to say?

Eugene. Yeah, look, when you're in a position of power when you're in leadership when you're an elected official you absolutely have to step up in moments like this the sheriff not issuing a statement is unacceptable and you know look you should probably take a good hard look at resigning

if you can't step up and be the chief law enforcement officer of the county you know Roland if he can't step up and be the chief law enforcement officer of the county. You know, Roland, if they didn't have anything to hide, they would release all of the footage. What is clear here to me is that they have something to hide. And you can contrast the transparency from the city of Elizabeth City, the city, which had a press conference, I believe, either Friday or over the weekend,

where they tried to make the distinction or did make the distinction between the city and the county. They've been fully transparent, but apparently the county does not feel that they have to be. And so there is something that's being hidden. And we know it because if there was nothing on those, if there was some instance where Andrew had run his car into a deputy or something, we'd see it. No, what we see is a bunch of trigger-happy police officers who basically, and I appreciate the piece you did with a brother from across the street. I mean, how are you shooting into occupied housing? Anybody could have been there. Anybody. And so this, again, hides the reason why we have to have police reform.

Mayor Garland is going about it the right way, city by city. He's looking at consent decrees and these police officers or departments really rather to adjust their behavior, to just adjust their behavior. So I applaud him for that.

And speaking of that, he made that announcement today that the Department of Justice would be examining the practices of the Louisville Police Department. Here's some of what he had to say. Today, the Justice Department is opening a civil investigation into the Louisville-Jefferson County Metro Government and the Louisville Metro Police Department to determine whether LMPD engages in a pattern or practice of violations of the Constitution or federal law.

Today's announcement is based on an extensive review of publicly available information about LMPD conducted by the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division. The investigation will assess whether LMPD engages in a pattern or practice of using unreasonable force, including with respect to people involved in peaceful, expressive activities. It will determine whether LMPD engages in unconstitutional stops, searches, and seizures, as well as whether the Department unlawfully executes search warrants on private homes. It will also assess whether LMPD engages in discriminatory conduct on the basis of race

or fails to provide public services that comply with the Americans with Disability Act. The investigation will include a comprehensive review of the Louisville Police Department's policies and training. It will also assess the effectiveness of LMPD's supervision of officers and systems of accountability. As in every Justice Department investigation, we will follow the facts and the law wherever they lead. All right, then. So, Bernardo, talk about that. Talk about the importance of what the attorney general is doing. Second week in a row, they're looking at a police department.

This is a huge impact. It's definitely sending a message to the country that definitely what this administration wants to do is that they want to take an overhaul of the police department. They want to take an overhaul of what is going on in these different police departments that has led to the death of so many African Americans. And if the state can't police their own police, guess what? Now the feds are coming in and they're going to take a hard look, impartial look, to see what is the problem with your community, what is the problem with your police department, and what needs to be done? It happened in Chicago. It happened in Baltimore. And I'm glad to see that Louisville is now having that same impact. Of course, that's just an area of view, of course, where we are right now, Eugene. And look, we're going to be spending far more time on the road, traveling, these type of stories because uh we're demanding

answers we need answers uh from these folks uh and at the end of the day we're the ones who are dying and this is the moment this is what black folks voted for uh with the election of uh president uh joe biden the election of um the election of Kamala Harris. And so bottom line is folks want a return on their investment. That's what they want. Look, it's accountability. For the first time in a very long time, in at least four years, you now have a federal government that's willing to hold stakeholders accountable for their actions.

And that's what's me and that's what I play here. When the state's stacked up, it's the federal government's job to come to make sure that they aren't violating civil rights, that they aren't violating natural rights, they aren't violating human rights. And that's what you have the Merrick Garland Justice Department doing now, is making sure that, you know, we're holding a lot of these agencies that receive federal funding and are propped up by the federal government accountable for their actions. Julianne, I think that, remember, on Donald Trump, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Attorney General William Barr, they were making excuses for police.

Oh, we don't want to hurt their feelings. It's hurting morale. Now you have a much more aggressive Department of Justice. Vanita Gupta has been confirmed. We're waiting for Christian Clark to be confirmed over the Civil Rights Division. I expect to see far more of this under the Biden Harris administration. Absolutely. I mean, we went from an administration where the police could do basically nothing wrong. You could execute people with impunity, to an administration where people understand structural racism. They understand structural racism, and they're looking at the systematic ways that things like these executions occur. So it is a sea change in terms

of the ways that people are looking at law enforcement. Now, that's easier said than done. And the real issue is, can there be a sea change in police attitudes? And the answer is, I'm not so sure. When we can't get a sheriff to respond for body camera footage, when they know that this grieving family is sitting there trying to figure out what's going on, I mean, that's absurd. It's abysmal. And so, but you still have some of the folks, I mean, I read the Washington Post and the comment section. In the comment section, you would be amazed at the number of people, well, why didn't they, you know, they always have an excuse. But here's a really bottom line

excuse. We have seen executions of Black people in the last week since Chauvin was found guilty. We've still seen black people being executed. So a lot of people say, well, this is a signal. Well, signal to who? Well, one of the things that I think is important as we continue to ask these questions, and that is you have to also begin to demand the level of accountability. One of the things that's going to happen tomorrow, 11 a.m., there's going to be a news conference because the family is going to be

releasing the results of an independent autopsy. We're going to also be back at the county office because we need some answers. We want to hear from the county commissioners. We want to hear from the county judge, from the county attorney. They need to be speaking to the people here. And I think, and I said this last week, Bernardo, I think you're going to see a far more aggressive position from people because with the Derek Chauvin verdict,

I said then that it was going to give folks momentum. I still think so. And I think that people understand that. I'm not saying it is shifted completely, but I do believe people are seeing a tide turning where folks are not just accepting whatever cops say as the gospel. So, Roland, one thing you also said last week that was so moving is that aside from holding people accountable, that you also need a prosecutor who has the courage. And that is the courage to step up, the courage to be a leader, the courage to conduct a fair and impartial investigation no matter where it ends and be transparent with the public. Unlike what we see here, where we haven't even seen the face of the prosecutor or the sheriff. So in order for there to be any movement in a positive direction,

what we need is to hold the chief law enforcement official, the prosecutors, accountable. Because remember, the prosecutor has much more power than the police department. It is the prosecutor who decides whether charges should be bought. If so, what charges should be bought? And if there are charges bought, what type of sentence or what type of prosecution there is going to take? Because it can either be a grand jury presentation, it could be a preliminary hearing, or it can be, oh, we made a decision by looking at the evidence that's available to us and we do not feel that it should be presented to a grand jury or presented as a preliminary hearing. Oh, we can have the okie-doke like Mr. Cameron from Kentucky.

Well, let's go to Virginia, where the Spotsylvania Sheriff's Office of Virginia, they released body camera footage and a portion of the 911 audio call of the recent officer-involved shooting of a 32-year-old black man. The recordings appear to show the deputy mistook a cordless house phone held by Isaiah Brown for a gun before the deputy shot him 10 times. Watch this. On scene, someone's walking on the roadway. On the roadway. Watch this. I want a gun point. Show me your hands now! Show me your hands! Drop the gun! He's got a gun to his head.

Drop the gun now! Stop walking towards me! Stop walking towards me! Stop! Stop! Shots fired. Shots fired. One down.

Show me your hands! Show me your hands! Drop the gun! drop the gun drop the gun let go of the gun 592 about five shots fired suspect's laying down the roadway show me your hands now show me your hands now! Show me your hands now! I'm 10-4. Several gunshots to the abdomen.

Performing life-saving measures. This shooting took place last Wednesday morning, same day as the shooting here in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. Now, this young man called the police. The deputy came there because of a domestic disturbance. Brown, the man who was shot, called 911 because his brother would not let him into his mother's room. He, folks, remains in critical condition. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. What's going on? My brother-in-law let me get in my mom's room.

Okay, and why is that an emergency? What you gonna do? Get in there. Hmm? Why is that an emergency? Because I can't get to my car. Your car was towed. So what's in the backyard?

Your car is in the backyard? Right. We about to go stay in. Okay, but your car is broken down, so why do you need your keys? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So what's in the backyard? Your car is in the backyard? All right. We're about to go see him. Okay, but your car is broken down, so why do you need your keys? All right. Come on, tell me. Nigga, I'm not, I'm fucking, I'm not. All right, give me the gun.

No, nigga. You about to make me fucking get mad, bro, for real. I'm not playing, bro. What the fuck do you need my gun for? Can you send somebody down here? What is going on, Isaiah? Why don't you just... What is the problem?

I'm about to kill my brother. Don't kill your brother. Get off. All right. Get off. Why would you say something like that? Come on, Taz. Somebody needs to come here real quick.

Okay, but do you understand that you just threatened to kill your brother on a recorded line on 911? Mm-hmm. So why would you say something like that? Because I need to get to my shade. That's not a reason to kill somebody. Why would you do that? I... Come on, I'm out of here. Do's not a reason to kill somebody. Why would you do that? I come on. You have a gun. You have a gun on you. No. Where's your brother in the house and you're outside? Do you have any weapons on you? No.

Where are you at outside? Walking down the road. How are you walking outside? Walki are you walking down the because I can. up. Hold your hands up. Isaiah, are you holding your hands up? Put your hands up. Put your hands down. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun.

Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun.

Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Drop the gun!

Stop the gun! Stop the gun! Stop! Stop! Stop the gun! Stop the gun! Show me your hands. Drop the gun. Drop the gun. Let go of the gun.

Show me your hands now. Earlier today, the family held a news conference, and Isaiah's sister Yolanda, she spoke. I need to label this. I'm not going to label this. You know, as a whole right now, this country is divided. It's not one race. It's a lot of minorities that walk in daily fear. It's a fear that nobody should have to feel. We don't have any hate in our heart or prejudice towards anyone. Neither does my brother. The hearts that we have is for everyone. Our hearts go out to the families that understand exactly how we feel, and we've always cared for them, but it ain't like this when they head home. Now the family wants all of these sheriff's recordings to be released. Bernard, there's a lot of questions I have regarding this story right here.

First off, you have the dispatcher. It is clear they know this young man. They knew Isaiah Brown. For the dispatcher to know his car, that is being told. What I don't understand is you hear the dispatcher say, do you have a gun? No. What is in your hand? A phone.

She repeated that. Well, then the cop gets on the scene and he says, put the gun down. I'm just trying to understand. We're literally hearing the officer give the commands and you're going, is anybody communicating with the cop? He doesn't have a gun. It's a phone. So, Roland, there are a couple to the person that's on the 911 call is not exactly relating word from word what you're saying to the police officer. They are typing it up, bits and pieces of it,

and then communicating it to the police officer that is responding. So all that information is not being communicated. What I believe probably what may have happened is that this 911 agent clearly put at least that he said that he had a gun or he's going to kill his brother. Because another thing is that you'd rather be safe than sorry. So she wanted to give a heads up at least to the sheriff or the police officer that actually fired at Isaiah multiple times early in the day had given Isaiah a ride home. So clearly they do know each other. And this police department is familiar with that household. Unfortunately, there are a lot of unanswered questions in this case. Roland, I really hope that Isaiah makes it out okay, that he survives, because unfortunately, based on what has been released right now, I do not see a prosecution in this case against the officer that fired the multiple shots at Isaiah. And the sad thing here, Julian,

it's just like in the Makia Bryant case, the number of times when black people have called the cops to settle issues, family issues, and somebody ends up dead. You know, as I was listening to the 911 call, I was thinking that, first of all, we need to be careful about when we bring the 911 into our lives? Because these folks are trained to respond to emergencies. And they're already, that you listen to the police officer, already amped up, drop the gun, drop the gun. So that's one thing. This case and the McKee case also makes a point about having social workers on call as well as police officers. I mean, I think with McKay, that could have been resolved. It was they were fighting over someone cleaning their room. And the next thing you know, the young lady is dead. And this particular case is how you have two squibblings squabbling.

And if squib, you know, squabbling siblings called 911 every time they got into a beef, that would be a challenge. So I really want us to think as a community about when we involve 911 and when we don't, and when there's conflict in our household, who do we involve? Who can work this conflict out? Because this is heartbreaking. That, you know, just that a young man is killed behind BS. It's really heartbreaking. Eugene, and that really is the thing, and I keep telling people, I mean, look, these cops are trained to use lethal force.

And this is also why. Also, why? And again, as I listen to that 911 call, frankly, that to me sounded like one of those examples where it was better to send a mental health professional than a police officer with a gun. I agree 100 percent with you. This is one of those cases where I would have been better to send a mental health professional than an officer with a gun. And I would take it a step further. You know, even when the officer arrives, there's no reason you should be shooting off your gun if you don't have a clear visual. You know, a phone and a gun are shaped two different ways. I mean, one's, you know, pretty much a long line. One's an L, you know, one's an L.

And so, you know, when this officer, you know, is telling him to, you know, put his hands up and drop the gun, you know, even if you think that he's going to, you know, commit suicide, that doesn't mean that you help accelerate that, you know that death by unloading your chamber. And so look, I think this is one of those very, very unique situations where it would have been more helpful to have a mental health professional than an officer. But the thing is this, by that same token, when an officer arrives on the scene, that does not give them license to just empty out every bullet they have in their clip.

And if they are going to shoot, they need to make sure he has a clear visual. I mean, I think that's where the negligence is. Folks, let's stay in Virginia. You might recall us showing you this video two years ago in 2019 when a Virginia State Trooper, let's just say he decided to show himself as a brother recorded this confrontation in his car. You can't do that, sir. This officer is trying to unlock my car. This officer is unlocking my car.

They just illegally entered my car and I'm being forcefully removed. Take a look at me. I'm being forcefully take a look at me i'm being specimen right here buddy sir i'm in my last my hands are up on camera all right i'm in no you're gonna get your ass whooped in front of fucking lord in all creation i'm gonna give you one more chance i'm being threatened you can bring that with you all that you film the whole thing i'm being threatened right now i'm giving you you a chance. I am not doing anything. I'm giving you a chance. I feel unsafe and I'm in no threat to these three officers.

My hands are up, I am doing nothing wrong to provoke anybody or anything. Making sure this is all recorded. I've just been threatened by a lawful officer. I have just been threatened by a law officer as two other officers stand by and say absolutely nothing. Willing to participate. My passenger door was open. My driver door was open. I have it on camera.

He rolled my window down to do so. I'm giving you to the count of three. Sir, I'm still, this is all on camera. I am not resisting. I'm making sure it is being known. I am not resisting. Okay. My hands are up. One hand on this camera. My seatbelt is being arrested. As am not resisting. Okay. My hands are up. One hand on this camera.

My seatbelt is being arrested. As long as your hands are up, that's fine. I'm not resisting. As long as your hands are up. I was unlawfully. Sir, please do not touch me, sir. Keep your phone out. Sir, please do not touch me.

See, that's where we're coming to a disagreement. It's not about that. I'm giving you to the count of three. You don't know this. Sir. Don't do it. I'm not touching this officer. It's on camera.

Don't do it. My hand is by my head. Step out of the car right now. I'm being threatened. Now you're under arrest. I'm not touching this officer. It's on camera. My hand is by my car right now. I'm being threatened. Now you're under arrest. Now you're under arrest for disobeying officer. I'm giving you to the count of three. This officer has threatened me and I'm making it known I am no threat to this officer. I've been threatened. My life is in danger. My life is in danger. How do you like that?

Put your hands behind your back. Put your hands. Yes, you are. I'm not resisting. Yes, you are. No, I'm not. Put your hands behind your back. Get off me.

My hands are behind my back, sir. My hands are behind my back. I am not resisting. Sir, please get off my neck. I'm not resisting. Get off my neck, sir. You are harming me. You are harming me.

You are harming me, sir. You are harming me. Well, that officer, Charles Hewitt, a state trooper, no longer has a job. He has been fired. Here's the crazy thing, Bernardo. Derek Thompson was pulled over for an expired inspection decal. They claim they spilled marijuana in the car. But all of that because of an inspection decal. Thompson sued the state. He settled for $20,000 with no admission of wrongdoing by the

state. But that state trooper does not have a job. Well, absolutely, rightfully so. That state trooper, former state trooper Hewitt, used unnecessary and excessive force on a person that was not armed, a person that was not an imminent threat. And it wasn't called for the use of force that that stayed true for you. So rightfully so, he lost his job. It's a shame that for the little minor things, how a person can lose their life because that incident could have turned out completely different where this man could have lost his life over this guy's ego. You know, this guy was so aggressive, that the language, the whole manner, the aggression is

just over the top. And that's what we've seen quite a bit of lately with officers, the way that they talk to people. I mean, it was the other case with the lieutenant who got stopped, I believe he was also in Virginia. But they have been trained to treat us like animals, to talk to us

any kind of way. I would give this young man commendation for him keeping his wits about him. And I would refer him to Ben Crump because frankly, $20,000 is hardly enough to compensate for that madness that he just had to go through. And the other thing is that there are three other officers hanging around. What happens to them? None of them had enough sense to say, excuse me. Don't you think you're going a little too far? Well, that's what happens when folks don't say anything. Right. And that's when you don't have accountability. Folks, let's go to Florida where a Jackson

County judge has set a trial date for a former deputy accused of planting drugs on drivers during traffic stops. Former Deputy Sheriff Zachary Westerer faces over 50 counts, including racketeering, official misconduct, perjury, and fabricating evidence during an internal investigation by the department. Investigators discovered drug palphaneria in his car matching items he planted on drivers. Y'all, it gets better. His body cam showed the arrest and the planting of drugs. Chicken nugget pork. Chicken nugget pork. Chicken with nugget. I better get what I need. Man, it's hot. There we go.

So the blue discoloration tested present to positive for methamphetamine. That does have the appearance of crystal methamphetamine, okay? That's not, is it? That's red color. Okay. You see the blue on the cotton swab? No. You don't see red.

Okay. Are you color blind, or you just can't? Oh, okay. All right. I'm not trying to be smart. Oh, yeah, you are. It's fine. That's good.

That ain't a problem at all. That's red. That's not blue. That's not either one of our shoes. Okay. I swear on my goddamn life. Debbie Lee, you see the blue? I just want to verify for the camera and audio. That's not blue. That's not either one of our shoes. Okay. I swear on my goddamn life. Debbie Lee, you see the blue? I just want to verify for the camera and audio.

That's red. Okay. You don't see the blue? On the cotton swab. On the cotton swab. Yeah, I see it on the very tip of the corner. Okay. Thank you. That is not ours.

Okay. Always Florida, Eugene. Always Florida. So, listen, Florida's a wild, wild place. Look, I'm not a proponent of mandatory minimums, but absolutely, I'm a cop's do wrong. And when you do things like plant drugs, you think of plant guns, I don't think you need to just lose your license to be a police officer. I think you should probably come with a 10-year mandatory minimum. Because, you know, public trust and keeping a public trust is the utmost responsibility of a police officer.

And a cop that's willing to plant drugs or lie in a report or plant guns or indiscriminately pull people over should not be a police officer. Well, to say the least, I mean, the thing about this that's so frustrating is the 400 people that he planted drugs on. So it wasn't just this one situation. So really the state of Florida needs to go back through any arrest this person made to basically verify that it was a legitimate arrest to pay more attention to some of the people who were unlawfully arrested. Some of them, I think there was one gentleman who was released from jail. The others served a little time, but not a lot. But this is, I mean, this is talk about basic violation of human rights. And the thing about this, Roland, that makes it so frustrating is that this is a pattern. A lot of people say, well, it's 2021. That was way back when.

And way back when, yeah, they did plant guns on black people, black men in particular, drugs, doing prohibition, alcohol. But this is 2021, and they're still doing it. Well, the Bernard of this goes to show you, again, the lack of mistrust with police officers. And here he had a partner who said, oh, yeah, that's blue. You can't convince me that other officers did not know what this guy was doing. Absolutely. So what's going to happen now is that the prosecutor's office is going to have to look at every case that either one of these officers were involved in. And in looking at those cases, unfortunately, there is no trust. There is no credibility of these officers were involved in. And in looking at those cases,

unfortunately, there is no trust. There is no credibility with these officers. They're going to have to overturn those convictions or dismiss any open cases because the reliability of the prosecution has now been tainted. So there's no way that you can overcome that doubt in this case. So they're going to have to dismiss this. It's cops like this that makes other cops look bad, that create the distrust within police officers. Yeah, I would think so, especially if you're sitting here planting drugs on people. And again, we're talking about 400 cases. And so they're going to have to go back, not to look at those cases, but every single case that this cop was involved in.

Every single one this cop was involved in. And so, again, folks, all right, here's our last police story of the day. Let me pull this up here. We've been covering, of course, a number of these stories here. But in Tacoma, a Washington State sheriff is now on a criminal investigation by the Attorney General's office for lying about being threatened by a black newspaper carrier. On January 27th, Pierce County Sheriff Ed Troyer called 911 on 24-year year old Cedric all-timer body camera footage shows all-timer surrounded by dozens of officers Trying to explain he did nothing wrong The sheriff he's threatened so know exactly who he is. We have no clue who you are. The sheriff, he's threatened.

He's so threatened. I knew he was a cop. I'm over here every night, six days a week. Can I explain it? No, I don't need nothing to be explained to me. I'm being followed. He called the cops. Congratulations. I'm coming to and from the house.

He's committing a crime. He's black. He's black. He's black. I's black. He's black Paper out. Okay. I understand that I see all the papers in your car. Congratulations. He just called saying that someone threatened his life That's why we're here. Okay. Yeah, I threatened his life because I walked up to him and asked him why he's following me Did you guys have any verbal? He's following me. Okay. I walked up to his car because he came around the block again for the third time. I approached him. Why are you following me?

Because I'm a black male in a white neighborhood? Oh, where are you at? I'm on the north end. Oh, you don't know where you're at? My wife is black. I don't care. That's all we're trying to get to is what happened between you guys that made him call us. I am working. I am driving a bucket and I'm in a nice neighborhood.

I'm working. I'm over here every night. I see you guys every night. Nobody messes with me. But a car that sees a bucket in the neighborhood on the wrong side of the street, throwing a paper out the window, he's suspicious. Well, the sheriff could be facing charges of filing a false police report. They're also investigating him for past misuse of authority. Oh, what happens when they have all that power, Julian? They get drunk with it. This is why. And look, to everybody out here, and let me be clear, I am not saying that body cams are

the be all to end all, but this is why you have body cam footage because you need to see every time a cop is doing something and that's why i believe if they're that camera's not on automatic firing if it's not on yeah i agree roland you know it's absurd that we have to go to this length but we've seen so many cases where we know that we have to have documentation this office this so-called officer um to lie use 9-1-1 to lie to some say that someone has threatened your life is an absurdity but we've seen it before we saw with uh what is it central park becky and you know the crazy karens. So we've seen it. But the challenge and the frustrating thing is this brother, I mean, bless him,

he pretty much kept his composure. I mean, he went off a little bit. Who wouldn't? But imagine that he were even more agitated. And he has the right to be agitated. He's working. He's doing his job. Bernardo, the thing

that's just crazy here, again, this is I mean, the last story in Florida, this story in Tacoma, Washington. Abuse of power. People, cops who are drunk with power. Roland, he's just a donkey of the day with this foolishness.

The donkey of the day who got caught on his own body camera. This is a joke. I mean, I just don't understand. Did he not think this through? Did he not think this through? He's going to have to get fired. And again, just like the other officers in Florida, all his cases are going to have to be opened and examined and see if any cases or convictions need to be overturned or dismissed because of his donkey of the day activities.

I just sit here and just sort of just shake my head, Eugene. I just sort of shake my head, folks. The family of Dante Wright, they have been receiving death threats, phone calls and e-mails since he was shot and killed. This is what they had to say. Have the family faced any death threats? I don't want to specifically point those out, but there are some security concerns. Whenever you have an event like this, you get a lot of people who come out, and America is an interesting place. So there are some concerns about safety for the family that we're addressing and making sure that we can keep them safe. And I'm not sure why that happens, but you do have people who support the officer no matter what.

And some people are happy that she killed Dante. I'll just be honest with you. So I always get a bunch of calls and emails that are pretty racist. And it's a sad thing to see that. You'll see comments on social media that are bad or that are nasty. Or like whatever police organization here in the state said, hey, be complied that he'd still be alive. I mean, who says that when a mother has just lost her child?

I don't know. Sometimes it seems like people don't have hearts. But, yes, there have been some threats to the family. This is disturbing. But hopefully we can get past that as well and heal this nation. And, of course, Kim Potter, the former cop who shot and killed Dante Wright, faces charges in his death. All right, folks, our final story of today over the weekend.

There were two services for rapper DMX, who died on April 9th on Saturday. There was a massive rally that took place at the Barclays Center for him. And, of course, on Sunday, a Pride Memorial. Both of those were live-streamed over the weekend. Of course, his cherry-colored casket was driven throughout his hometown, driven from there all the way to Memorial Service on the back of a massive pickup truck, followed by hundreds of Rough Riders on their motorcycles, very ubiquitous with the record label when he was one of their top stars. Folks, it was a number of people who performed at the service, including his daughter.

Here is some of that memorial service this weekend. I learned so much from him, so I dedicate this song to him. And you're growing, I'm learning to hold my head up. And you're growing, I'm learning to hold my head up. And you're growing'm learnin' to hold my head up Ay yo, I'm growin', I'm learnin' to hold my head up Ay yo, I'm growin', I'm learnin' to hold my head up My daddy still holdin' my hand so I gotta stand up Ay yo, I'm growin', I'm learnin' to hold my head up Ay yo, I'm growin', I'm learnin' to hold my head up

Ay yo, I'm growin', I'm learnin' to hold my head up My daddy still holdin' my hand so I gotta get up Ay yo, I'm learning to hold my head up. My daddy's still holding my hand, so I gotta get up. And yo, I learned so much from my father. He taught me life is my story, I'm the author. He taught me to be strong, but it's okay to be afraid. Cause sometimes it'll show you how to be brave. I know how to get up whenever I fall. I never give up, I give it my all.

Cause I know I'm big even though I look small. Looking at my daddy's picture on the wall. I know he want me to be the best I can be. Nobody else. I gotta be me. My brothers and sisters, we all stand together. Throw up the X. Daddy forever. I learned how to understand the

good and the bad. I look in the mirror, sometimes I see my dad. I know he's with God, because I know he loved him. When he was here, he put nobody above him. He taught me how to pray when I wake up and for when I go to sleep. Pray for my family. Pray before I eat. And sometimes when I feel sad and weak, I can still hear him speak. Yeah. By all means, I'm going to do what's right. Even in the dark, I'm going to be the light.

I can do it. Even when I'm feeling sad, y'all call him DMX. I call him dad. Yo, I'm growing. I'm learning to hold my head up. Yo, I'm growing. I'm learning to hold my head up. And yo, I'm growing. I'm learning to hold my head up.

My daddy's still holding my hand, so I gotta stand up. Yo, I'm growing. I'm learning to hold my head up. And yo, I'm growing. I'm learning to hold my head up. And you ain't growing. I'm learning to hold my head up. And you ain't growing. I'm learning to hold my head up. My daddy's still holding my hand, so I gotta stand up.

People all over the world showing love. I say thank you and to God up above. I know my daddy's watching, shining down on me. I can feel his love raining down on me. I know my daddy's watching, shining down on me. I can feel his love raining down on me. So throw your X's up, and if you slip and you fall, you gotta get up. And yo, I'm growing, I'm learning to hold my head up.

And yo, I'm growing, I'm learning to hold my head up and you're growing I'm learning to hold my head up And you're growing I'm learning to hold my head up my daddy still holding my hand so I gotta stand up DMX of course they at the age of 50 and so so his fans gave him a great sendoff this weekend. Folks, we're broadcasting live from Liberty City, North Carolina. We'll be broadcasting here tomorrow as well. There's going to be a vigil planned for Thursday. We'll be live streaming that. We live stream the events today.

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