#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Anti-Ice Protest erupts in Minn. ICE Warrantless Entries, Opal Lee Honored, Coogler Oscar History
Episode Date: January 24, 20261.23.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Anti-Ice Protest erupts in Minn. ICE Warrantless Entries, Opal Lee Honored, Coogler Oscar History Thousands of Minnesotans protested in subzero temperatures in a mar...ch against the federal government's immigration crackdown. There is a new ICE policy that allows officers to enter homes without a warrant from a judge. A Maine sheriff is criticizing ICE tactics for arresting a corrections recruit at the Cumberland County Jail as he was getting off work. A major winter storm is expected to bring heavy snow and damaging ice across much of the country this weekend. Opal Lee, known as the grandmother of Juneteenth, is being honored with a Barbie doll as part of the 'Inspiring Women' series. We will also discuss how Ryan Coogler's film "Sinners" is making history with 16 Oscar nominations. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC. This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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The main judge sheriff is criticizing ICE tactics for arresting a corrections recruit county jail as he was getting off of work in that state.
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Folks, it was a massive day of protest today
in Minneapolis and Minnesota,
where thousands gathered outside the U.S. Bank Stadium
amid sub-zero temperatures for march against
Donald Trump's immigration crackdown.
Demonstrators shouted ice out, wave American flags,
and carried signs calling for ice to leave their city
and for the arrest of the ICE office.
officer who faintly shot Renee Nicole Good on January 7th.
Trump administration has sent more than 3,000 federal immigration personnel to Minneapolis since December
in what the administration has dubbed Operation Metro Surge, resulting in nonstop confrontations
and clashes with residents. According to the Department of Homeland Security, more than over six
over six weeks, officers have apprehended more than 3,000 undocumented immigrants.
But how many of them actually are criminals? Now,
Trump and his minions are threatening America's Fourth Amendment rights by allowing ICE officers to forcefully enter homes using only administrative warrants bypassing judicial approval.
Legal experts warned that this policy would strip away critical safeguards and accountability, opening the door to government overreaks, but the courts aren't going along quietly.
In Minnesota, federal judges are rejecting arrest warrants for a number of people.
Arrest warrants tied to anti-ice protests saying prosecutors failed to provide some.
sufficient evidence and now the concern is coming from inside law enforcement as well.
A county sheriff in Maine is blasting ISIS actions, calling them Bush League policing after
agents literally detained a Cumberland County Jail Corrections recruit who was legally authorized
to work and had no criminal record. Watch this.
He's got a job, so they can't have that.
Talk of the members of society.
The county sheriff, Kevin Joyce, shared his outrage about this.
We've all seen the three-minute video.
I've heard some people say, oh, it's hard to watch.
What was hard is, is that there were five to seven ICE agents there.
In my world, my colleagues, we've arrested.
some dangerous people on the back roads of Cumberland County with three or less deputies.
Yet, this was a show of force, a show of whatever they were trying to do with seven people.
What's even more disturbing is the comment made by the witness that videotaped this encounter
who said that in the three minutes they got out, they pulled a guy from the car,
handcuffed him, put him in the car, they all took off, leaving his car,
With the windows down, the lights on, unsecure, and unoccupied.
They left it right on the side of the street.
Folks, that's Bush League policing.
Again, in my world, you wait for a wrecker.
You wait for somebody to come pick it up that the individual wants.
Or you get permission to drive the vehicle into a public parking spot,
and you lock it up and you give the person their car keys.
You don't leave their personal belongings unsecure.
along the streets, the city of Portland.
It's not fair to the guy that owns the car.
It's surely not fair to the Portland police.
Folks, the recruit was hired in February of 2000.
It falls for hiring in the hiring in February.
And it is authorized, first thing, he was authorized to work in the U.S. through
2009.
And to understand what these people are doing, they even, at one point, a protester was
filming them and an ICE agency said, we're now going to put you in a domestic terrorist
database. Here's what people have to understand. These people are going after everyone and they
absolutely are being given full authority, full immunity, especially by Stephen Miller and others.
And so this is what we have to understand that these people are engaged in. The actions that they
are engaged in makes no sense whatsoever. And Donald Trump is allowing it. This is what these folks
want to do. This is how they want to be engaged. And so we need to understand that the pushback
is being severe. This is why Minneapolis is ground center. I want to bring in my panel. Michael
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Matt Manning, Silver Rights Attorney under Corpus Christi, Texas.
Glad to help all three of you here.
Candace, I want to start with you.
these thugs do not care about the law
because the thug-in-chief
doesn't care about the law.
Stephen Miller doesn't care about the law.
J.D. Vance doesn't care about the law.
You've got the head of ice
walking around in his long coat
just sitting here doing
whatever the hell is it that he wants to do.
And you're a federal judge in Illinois
who said that that dude lied repeatedly.
So these folks are,
are lying in court.
They are lying to federal judges.
They don't care because they know the corrupt thugs
sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue,
two blocks this way from this studio,
says, do what you want, I got you covered.
Do what you want without any due process too
that is due to anybody that is on American soil.
That is the rule.
And people will ask me all the time,
no, no, no, no.
not if they are not here legally, yes, yes, yes.
If they are here illegally, there's still a process that is due to them.
That's why we call it due process.
And this is what we are seeing on the streets,
that even if you are corrections officer,
this guy went through a polygraph test,
he went through a background check,
he went through all the questioning,
he went through all the training.
He even during the time of training,
went down to Texas, I believe,
to try to get some things cleared up in terms of his status.
He wanted to work alongside and be a part of.
of the justice system and even with that behind him he still got picked up and they didn't even give
the um the corrections facility that he worked with the the respect to tell them look look we have one of
yours left his car open left it in dangerous situations just disrespect across the board this is the
time where people have got to remember the rights that belong to them you still have a right to remain silent
You still have a right to an attorney.
You still have a right to due process.
So the more you know the information about the law, the more empowered you become.
Because it doesn't matter who you are.
You could be a corrections officer.
You could be a police officer.
They might even make the mistake one day and arrest another ICE agent.
It doesn't matter.
You're going to get got because they had one year where they hired 12,000 people.
There's no way that 12,000 ICE workers can actually be trained thoroughly and not make all the mistakes.
and that's what we're seeing.
We are seeing the fruit of those seeds
that have been planted,
and that's why we're seeing these mistakes.
And this is just ridiculous.
I mean, it is just ridiculous,
and it's going to implode even more rolling.
And a thing here that it's abundantly clear, Matt,
these folks don't care about due process.
And here's their argument.
You had this, Batya Unger Sargon,
supposedly a progressive who now is MAGA.
And I'm going to try to find the clip.
idiot was debating Baccarus
who's an actual lawyer that, and she's
nothing more than an opinion columnist, saying
that, oh no, due process
is only for American citizens.
She's a liar.
Yeah, it's not. I mean, Candace hit the nail on the head.
It is not only for American citizens.
And, you know, I mean, there's a due
process that's due to you in the immigration courts.
I mean, that's kind of one of the things
they're trying to hide behind now, at least
in the couple of the stories that have been reported
over the time of the ICE,
increase in administrative arrest and things is that they've had a number of people who had already gone through a process and a judge had determined that they needed to be removed.
That is part and parcel with the idea of having due process.
And I think we may be talking about it a little bit later, but I think the thing that every American absolutely needs to be terrified about, literally afraid about, is that ICE has an internal policy memo saying that they can go into your house with an administrative warrant and not a judicial warrant.
Let me explain why that is so terrifying, because generally what you need is you need, at least in the federal system or on the comparable state system, you need a judge to determine that there is probable cause for law enforcement to make entry to your home to search it or to otherwise arrest you, right?
But these administrative warrants are issued by people who work for the Department of Justice.
And I know they're calling them immigration judges, right, but they really are Department of Justice employees, from my understanding.
That means the failsafe, which is a judge who's been appointed, who's gone through the approval process through Senate, the United States Senate, is determining that there's sufficient probable cause to arrest you is how it normally works.
But if ICE is able to go out and arrest people without this warrant, then what this means without a judicially issued warrant, then what that means is that they can just have basically an insufficient legal basis upon which to claim we get to run into Matt Manning's house.
Maybe we think he's harboring, harboring immigrants.
Maybe we have some reason to believe someone that lives with him is not an immigrant,
but we don't have to prove it in the way we normally do.
And now we can just write up our own warrant.
Basically, it's them issuing their own documents to go and grab people.
And that is an evisceration of the Fourth Amendment, which in civil rights law is probably the most litigated amendment.
It's the one most of the time that people are filing lawsuits behind.
So, you know, this arrest and many of the other arrests are obviously very problematic,
but it is a bedrock watershed, you know, fundamental evisceration of democracy issue
if a judge is no longer the one determining whether this probable cause,
because that allows them to come into your house anytime that they want,
and they don't have to answer to someone for doing so.
Before I go to Michael, this is this conversation.
I just want to show you all the sheer stupidity that these MAGA people are,
all across mainstream news.
Now, that crap wouldn't fly on this show.
I wouldn't even let her get this crap out of her mouth for 10 seconds.
But listen to this non-lawyer, give her opinionated view about due process,
and she's talking to an actual lawyer.
The people who, on the right in particular,
who are typically concerned about things like, you know,
the government overreach,
searches and seizures, et cetera. Does it give you pause that they are expanding the view of what they
can do to break into people's homes? Well, first of all, it's not without a warrant. It's an
administrative warrant. And what the memo actually says is if a judge has issued final order
of removal, meaning that this is an illegal who has gotten a lot of due process already and
exhausted every single legal avenue to challenge their deportation. I guess, I don't want that
Let me just pause you there because I just don't want people to be confused.
The administrative warrant is not a warrant that a judge sees.
Typically in the United States, in order for authorities to break into your home without your permission,
they need a judge to see it and to say you can enter because you're looking for something
and you're authorized to enter.
Right.
But yeah, but that man, for example, that we just played the video of, he might have lived in that house,
but that house was also, in that house also resided other American citizens.
So, again, where are the people on the right who are typically concerned about constitutional rights?
Are you not at all worried that they can just break into your home?
We have different standards of what due process is owed to an American citizen and what is owed to a non-citizen.
And we should all support that.
What about this scenario?
We should all want a higher level of due process and constitutional rights that are guaranteed
to us as American citizens, not to legal.
Because it's supposed to mean something to be an American.
But, but Bataia's wrong.
There are a lot of problems with that.
I mean, there are constitutional rights that, like, just basic constitutional rights,
that don't change based on whether you're a citizen.
Yeah, but you're wrong, Bati, because, yes.
No, they have a right to due process, but that standard is much lower.
No, it counts as due process.
No, Bata, you were wrong.
The fifth.
That is right.
No, the fifth and 14th amendment of the United States Constitution
provide that everyone, even non-citizens, have a right to due process.
Yes, to due process.
But the standard of due process for expelling an illegal
is much lower than the standard that we would have if we were accused of crime.
We are talking about entering one's domicile, ones above.
They have a final order of deportation.
Batia, you cannot utilize military,
or law enforcement in the United States of America
to enter one's home colloquially willy-nilly.
You just simply cannot do that
because of the fundamental guarantees
we have under the United States Constitution.
And what happens...
As American...
That's an idiot, Michael.
A pure idiot.
And that was like a two-minute and 45-second clip.
And Abby, I would have been like,
I'm sorry, you're not a lot.
lawyer. So let me talk to
the lawyers at the table. Can
you please explain what the
law is?
Yeah, so it's so much
here. I'm going to try to keep this
as succinct as possible.
She's an idiot
and a Trump grifter.
Okay. And to me,
it's ironic. Now, I'm not sure
if she's Jewish. It appears she was wearing
the Jewish star.
But it's like, I remember.
She is. Okay. Because I'll
remember mistreatment of Jews by Germans.
And, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That doesn't matter because that didn't happen on American soil.
See, that happened in Germany.
Didn't happen here.
I'm again, if I'm using her argument, Michael, we're not discussing that because that didn't
happen to America that happened in Germany, not here.
Okay, so let me go to my second point here.
I know people here have an affinity for Abby Phillips.
but according to her interview on the breakfast club,
she's the one that chooses the guests on the show.
So if that woman said a bunch of bullshit,
then we need to blame Abby Phillip for that
because she's the one that chose her.
So now going to the heart of this,
I know a few minutes ago, Roland, you said this does not make sense
and things of this nature.
Well, Roland, this makes perfect sense.
Your book White Fear explained it.
Your book White Fear predicted it.
This is the fear of the Browning of America.
This is an all-out war
on non-white people.
And Donald Trump in 2024,
when he was on the campaign trail,
March or April 24,
he said he would give 100%
immunity
for police
against criminal prosecution for doing
their job. And then from my
understanding, when it comes to
the killing of Renee Good,
there's no investigation from the Department of Justice, okay?
An investigation would normally go on for a number of weeks.
There's no investigation.
So they're like, hey, we're good.
No pun intended.
Now, I encourage people, and I've been talking about this at the African History Network,
and some of the black people or Ato's or whatever they want to call themselves,
disagree with me on this.
But this is very similar.
This reminds me of the Fugitive
the Slave Act at 1850.
And ICE, many ICE officers, maybe not all of them,
but many of them are running around like modern day slave catchers.
In fact, the LA Times has an excellent article called Trump's case for sending troops to
help ICE involves precedent from Fugitive Slave Act.
And they're talking about the Fugitive Slave Act to 1850,
signed in law by President Mallard Fillmore, and most of these Negroes never even
heard of Mallard Fillmore, and what happened was he sent U.S. troops along with U.S.
marshals to capture runaway slaves in the north enforcing the Fugitive Slave Act at 1850.
Well, you got, in some of these states, you've got National Guard along with ICE and police,
quote unquote, police from many different agencies violating people's rights.
And one of the things that the Fugitive Slave Act did was the Fusualslave after 1793,
could have your day in court. A lot of people don't know this. But the one of 1850, you could not have a day in court to prove that you were free. Well, many cases here, right? They're not being able to have their day in court like they should. They're being snatched also outside of the court when they're trying to show up for their proper hearings and things of this nature. So this, unfortunately, this makes perfect sense. And we predicted this role. And this is all laid out in Project 2025.
Well, to watch these folks, to listen to the sheer nonsense that is streaming out of their mouths
just is crazy.
And what they're doing is they are allowed to do all of this with impunity.
What you have here is an administration that does not care.
an administration that will complain about, oh, how they are being treated,
but don't care how anybody else is being treated.
This is just who they are.
And I think what people have to understand is we're going to see more of this.
We're going to see more of their actions.
We're going to see more of these type of things.
And it's not going to stop.
It's not going to stop.
and one of the folks that we have to blame for this,
absolutely, is John Roberts.
The Supreme Court.
Supreme Court basically said,
oh, say, Doc, you could do what you want to do.
You can do what you want to do.
And this fool has already said,
the only thing that can stop me is my own morality.
And I'm telling you right now,
November
can't come soon enough, Matt,
but November is not going
to completely stop any of this.
The only way
to deal with this
is that you're going to have to see
mass demonstrations,
not just in Minneapolis,
not just in Portland.
You're going to have to see more of these sheriffs
and police chiefs coming out
and saying, I'm sick of you thugs.
You're going to, see, here's a deal.
We already see in the-
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Polling data, we're seeing how the number has gone up.
It used to be in the 40s.
It's now up to 61% the public against these actions.
You even have all of a sudden.
Matter of fact, wasn't J.D. Vance?
talking about this, saying how they're going to have to change their tactics.
If it continues, and this is where I think that Renee Good murder has played a role.
Because so many people saw that and they say, you know what, I'm sorry, that ain't right.
That ain't right.
But that's the only thing that's going to stop this.
It's going to have to be massive pressure by millions of Americans.
Can I say something real quick, Roland?
I just want to add one thing to this that makes this even more terrifying.
So a lot of local law enforcement work with the feds all the time on task forces.
I'm sure we've talked about it on the show.
And one of the times what you see is you see almost a cross deputization where they're able to serve a warrant, right?
Like the feds serve a state side warrant alongside state officers and they draw their authority to serve that state warrant from the presence of the state officers.
I say that to say, hopefully this goes before the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court does the right thing.
It makes, you know, the ruling that this is not tantamount to a judicial warrant.
But what you might start seeing in the meantime is the MAGA-aligned state officers who say,
okay, that allows us to go in with our officers alongside this administrative warrant
and just bulk up the number of people running into somebody's house to snatch them without judicial intervention.
And I don't say that to be, to be, you know, fear-mongering.
but I really think that's the possible consequence of this,
and it's really, I mean, a watershed moment.
It's like your constitutional rights being taken before your eyes.
So the only way this is going to stop, to your point,
is if there's actually judicial intervention.
And I happen to be talking to a prominent lawyer
who works in this space just an hour ago,
and his opinion was, you know,
some of the federal judges are already pushing back on this,
are already pushing back on ICE overreach.
But the problem with it is you got such a grab bag of federal,
judges, you just don't know if depending on where you are, whether he or she is going to do the
right thing. So they absolutely have to tell the line because if they don't, it's going to be just
all out chaos and there will not be safety in your home. I was telling you about J.D. Vance and
his nonsense. And so just listen to this fool, try to parse the language when it comes to these
warrants. The Washington Post reported today that an ICE memo allows agents to enter people's houses
without a judge's warrant. What do you say to people who say we're concerned about this violating the
Constitution and how much is this tactic being used? Yeah, so I saw that story and the story is like so
much that I read in the mainstream media, it's missing a whole lot of context and when you appreciate
the context, it makes sense. No one is saying, look, there are exceptions. For example, a crazy
exception. If somebody is fired at from inside a house, they don't need a warrant to go inside that person's
There are very narrow exceptions to the warrant requirement where law enforcement officers don't need a warrant if, for example, they're an imminent threat of their lives.
But what we've said and what ISIS proposed, what the Department of Homeland Security really has proposed in the Department of Justice,
is that we can get administrative warrants to enforce administrative immigration law.
Now, it's possible, I guess, that the courts will say no.
And of course, if the courts say no, we would follow that law.
but nobody is talking about doing immigration enforcement without a warrant.
We're talking about different types of warrants that exist in our system.
Typically what happens, not always, but typically in the immigration system, those are handled by administrative law judges.
So we're talking about getting warrants from those administrative law judges.
And that, of course, with other cases, you get judges or you get warrants from a judge.
That's very consistent with the practice of American law.
I'm sure the courts will weigh in on that, but we're never going to enter somebody's house without some kind of a
warrant unless, of course, somebody's firing on an officer or they have to do something in order to protect themselves.
Boy, you're lying. That boy lying. He know damn well. He's lying. And then, and then I love this how they say that,
oh, no, no, we're not, we're not racially profiling. Y'all want to see somebody get embarrassed and
fact-checked in real time? Watch this.
accusations of racial profiling back to Washington will certainly look into them as they come up.
But this is not a group that's going around and looking for people who violated the law based on skin color.
They're looking for people who violated the actual law, the law of our immigration system in this country.
And so long as we had more cooperation, I think they could do these things in a much more targeted way.
They would actually know where some of the bad guys are.
I mean, you hear things that are hard to believe, but I've confirmed.
that they're true. Sex offenders, sex offenders who were trying to get off the streets,
who the local officials won't tell us their last known address. So then the local officials
say, oh my God, these guys are doing widespread targeted enforcement operations, when in reality,
we would love to just go to one house. The local officials won't tell us which one house to go to.
Mr. Mr. Vice President. To that question, the local police chiefs have set their own off-duty
officers, so police officers are being targeted because they are a person of color and asked to show their papers.
Is that a concern of the administration of the Department of Homeland Security?
Local law enforcement says their own officers are being targeted and they described it as, quote, civil rights violations in our streets.
So I saw one story about this and one local police officer who said this and look, certainly is it a concern?
Absolutely. The first thing we have to figure out is whether it happened or not.
And then if it happened, whether there is a good explanation or a bad explanation, of course, if somebody violated the law, if somebody racially profiled, if somebody violated the rights of one of our fellow citizens, that is something we will take very seriously.
What I also would say is that many of the most viral stories of the past couple of weeks have turned out to be at best partially true.
So we want to try people based on reality, based on the truth, based on context.
we're not going to prejudge people
just because of viral social media story
that turned out to be half false.
JD Vance should never use the word
truth, Candice,
because these folks lie.
I mean, they just lie.
And then it goes, well, we've got to see if that actually happened.
Yeah, the sheriff said it happened.
So it was like, oh, no, well, so, well, let's check the veracity
of that sheriff.
These people are insane.
They're insane.
You know, and he talked about we're going to try these people and, you know, give them their, they're not trying people.
That's the whole process. That's what that's the whole problem.
That's what we've been discussing since the beginning of the show, that they're not being tried in a way that makes sense at all.
I think strategically what's happening and Matt touched upon this is that we're seeing all of the amendments.
Let's think about all the amendments that we've talked about tonight.
5th, 14th. We know that the first is in there. We've been talking about protests, for example.
We've got these very important amendments, and little by little, just kind of in somebody's
backyard, they are just hammering away at these amendments as opposed to, say, having a constitutional
convention or going through the judicial system. They're trying what they can in order to
really dismantle these amendments that are so important.
Fourth Amendment, someone coming into my home at this time for no reason and no probable cause.
And J.D. Vance, we know that if somebody is shooting a gun from inside of a house, of course,
that's probable cause. What is the probable cause for everybody else whose home you are going
into, everybody else who you're picking up off the street? What was the probable cause to pick up
that correctional officer? You let him go. It makes no sense. They're untrained and they're causing
havoc all over the country.
And they're going to have to answer
to this. They're going to be lawsuits.
They're going to be questions that
they have to answer because none of
this is working. And we've been here
for a while old. Yeah. And this is
what happens when you only train
people in 47 days.
All right. Going to go to break. We'll be right back.
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Always a good time for the Crockett Chronicles.
So y'all know how we do it.
So let's roll the Crockett Chronicles.
Harry is watching this House Committee hearing
when Texas Congresswoman Jackson and Crockett
ripped Republicans for their selective outrage
when it comes to Donald Trump.
And instead of disputing,
Donald Trump's guilt, his maga-minians, focused on attacking the January 6th prosecutor, Jack Smith,
in questioning whether his investigation should have happened at all.
Crockin reminded those who now defend the convict in chief of how they were running around,
scared to death, hiding, cowering behind law enforcement,
as Trump's domestic terrorists took over the U.S. Capitol on January 6th.
2000 and 21.
It's curious because you've sat here all day, and thank you so much for showing up,
because this was something that you wanted to do.
The Republicans wanted to make sure that you were hid in a room with no cameras because I was there.
They didn't really want you out public because they were afraid of what you would say,
which is that you could have proven your case because you are a career prosecutor,
who knows how to prosecute criminals.
So just to be clear, today it seems like,
the Republicans have not really fought very much about whether or not Trump was guilty or not.
In fact, their fight seems to be over whether or not you were authorized to prove their guilt.
Do you recall a number of Republican members asking about whether or not your appointment was okay,
even though we know that you've testified about the more than 100-year precedent that allowed for your appointment?
I was asked questions about that today.
And our position as we filed in our appeal is that there was strong support for my appointment,
including Supreme Court precedent directly on point.
Thank you so much.
Additionally, you know, everybody's been all gingerly here today.
But I don't know why we're acting surprised that a man who had close to 90 allegations
out of four different jurisdictions and ultimately ended up with 30.
34 convictions after a jury was able to hear all the evidence would possibly be committing
a criminal act on January 6th.
In fact, considering the fact that we are now under the impression that he is violating
people's due process rights, he is ignoring court orders, he's starting wars without
congressional authority in contradiction to the Constitution, he's enriching himself to the
tune of over $1.4 billion.
He's shaking down elected to draw maps that will help him stay in
power because the Republicans don't understand that they swore an oath to the Constitution and
that we are supposed to do checks and balances. He's also shaking down TV stations to get money.
So why are we trying to pretend as if it is out of the realm for this particular man to commit
the crime that he committed on January 6th? And frankly, the only reason he ran for president
was to make sure that he would not be prosecuted because I fully believe that you would have
put him under the jail based on our long-form conversation that we had. But according to
your
special counsel report on page
137. It states the
department's view that the Constitution prohibits
the continued indictment and prosecution
of a president is categorical and does
not turn on the gravity of the crimes charge
the strength of the government's proof or the
merits of the prosecution and that
quote, but for Mr. Trump's
election and imminent return
to the presidency, the office assessed
that the admissible
evidence was sufficient to obtain
and sustain a conviction
at trial. In other words, Donald Trump ran for president, like I said, so he wouldn't have to
spend the rest of his life in prison. The chairman and other members of this committee have spent
all day attacking you and trying to rewrite the history of January 6th. But Mr. Jim Jordan, the chairman,
failed to mention how he was running around the Capitol terrified by the possibility that all those
insurrectionists would harm him. In fact, on page 97 of the deposition transcript,
you mentioned how Mark Meadows, the president's chief of staff, quote-unquote, never saw Jim Jordan so scared.
The chairman also failed to mention that he was in direct contact with the White House in the days leading up to and on January 6th,
which is why his toll records were subpoenaed by your office.
Let me be clear, because they're trying to act like this as Democrats on Republicans,
and I guess you are a covert Democrat that knew that he was going to try to steal an election before he tried to steal that election.
and so therefore you were somehow put into place.
I mean, the conspiracy theories make your head spin,
but nevertheless, were you going to subpoena the toll records of every single Republican
simply because they were a Republican?
No.
He subpoenaed the toll records in the course of this investigation
because they were relevant to our investigation.
Relevant?
Oh, okay.
All right, so that means something about facts.
So let's talk about facts.
Donald Trump, lost to Joe Biden, yes or no?
That's correct.
Okay.
In fact, 60 federal and state courts have found that there was no evidence of election fraud.
Trump's own attorney general and vice president knew that he lost the election, but he still
tried to steal the election by pressuring state officials designing fake elector plans, nearly
having Mike Pence hanged, and ultimately demanding that his supporters, quote, fight like
hell, correct?
Correct.
We all saw it happen once they read.
reached, we all saw what happened once they reached the U.S. Capitol.
As your report outlines, President Trump knew that he would incite violence at the Capitol that
day. In fact, some of Trump's senior advisors were pushing for violence. For example,
page 81 of the report details how co-conspirators, number two, John Eastman, tried to convince
Mike Pence to break the law, stating that, quote, violence was necessary. So it isn't just Trump
who is responsible for the death of multiple law enforcement.
officers and the injuries of thousands of people.
A lot of Republican members of Congress are also responsible.
147 Republicans voted to overturn the 2020 election results, including multiple members
currently serving on this committee.
And I will yield.
See, this is why you have to outline these facts.
And I'm going to transition to this because it's very interesting.
And what we're seeing with this U.S. Senate race in Texas that involves Jasmine Crockett,
Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett and Texas State Representative James Tallerico.
It's been quite hilarious and shameful to watch these attacks on Congresswoman Crockett
about a U.S. Senate race in Texas.
Yet when you look at where the attacks on her are coming from, it's amazing how they keep emanating
out of Washington, D.C. and New York City.
It's quite interesting.
And it's quite interesting to watch how so many white progressives are literally on record as saying that, oh, no, no, no, no, no, we can't support this black woman running for United States Senate because in order for us to win, we're going to have to run a white male moderate.
And I find that to be interesting.
And I will say this right now to many of those white progressives.
Let me be clear.
You're playing a very dangerous game.
See, if you're making the argument that Crockett doesn't have the policies, that's one thing.
For you to literally suggest that, oh, she's.
somehow she's too black.
Hmm.
You might want to watch that.
And the reason this is interesting is because
I saw a lot of this
after she announced she was running.
And there was somebody who was on
threads and they were going on and on and on.
And you can always tell the people
who don't know a damn thing, who literally
don't know Jack
about
the state of Texas.
And so I'm sitting here, and so this one person was going on and on and on, and I decided
to just sit here and do a look back.
And I began to go back and look at all of these races.
And I took it all the way back, y'all.
to 1988.
And you know what's interesting?
I saw, and it was just amazing to me.
Matter of fact, let me just see
if this is going to show up,
if this is going to properly show up
on the screen. It may not show up.
But this is what I pull together. I'm just going to read it.
I say, for all of you who believe
that a black woman cannot run for U.S. Senate in Texas,
and it should be a white or Latino candidate,
This, matter of fact, hold up, I can do this here.
Give me one second.
So I'm going to download this chart.
And then I just want to show y'all.
And see, this is what happens when you've got a brain and you know how to research
and you don't fall for the okie-doke because what it then happens is you are smart enough,
you are smart enough to understand what's going on.
and so I went back and I said
let me find all of the people who ran
in Texas
now Lloyd Benson
was the
this is 1988
Lloyd Benson
you can Henry you can go to my iPad
this is from Bloomberg
this is all Texas
U.S. Senate races
from 1988 to 2018
and so you see
here in 1980
Senator Lloyd Benson was the last Democrat to win a U.S. Senate race.
Senator Lloyd Benson, that same year he was the vice presidential candidate.
He wins, 59 to 40.
But you go to 1990, Democrat Hugh Palmer, white, male, runs against Republican Senator Phil Graham, loses 6037.
We go to
1993.
Bob Kruger had been
appointed to the seat.
He runs against
K. Bailey Hutchison.
Bob Kruger, white male,
loses 6733.
Go to 1994,
Richard Fisher. Very rich
white man.
Runs against Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison's
Hutchison gets his ass
whooped 61 to 38.
In 1996, Victor Morales decides to run.
Latino against Phil Graham loses 5544.
In 2000, white man, Gene Kelly, runs against Senator Kay Bailey the Hutchinson Republican, loses 6532.
2002, former Dallas mayor Ron Kirk, black.
Male runs against Senator John Cornyn, loses 5543.
2006, Barbara Ann Radnowsky, white woman, runs against Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson, loses 62 to 36.
2008, Rick Noriega, Latino, loses to Senator John Cornyn, 5543.
2012
Ted Cruz
Paul Sadler, white man
loses to Ted Cruz
56 to 41%.
Um
2014
David
Alameo
y'all I literally
do not know who the hell
that is and I am
from Texas I don't even remember
this race
but it's all good
Lebanese, he loses 62 to 34.
2018, Beto O'Rourke, white man,
loses to Senator Ted Cruz, 51 to 48.
Then, of course, you had the race of, you had,
you had, last year, the race of former congressman,
well, then congressman,
out of Texas,
out of Dallas area,
ran against Ted Cruz.
He lost by 10 points.
Okay, Colin Allred.
If I think back to the, let me see,
2020 U.S. Senate race.
Let me see, that was John Cornyn.
2020,
Texas, U.S. Senate race.
Let's see here.
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Let me see.
Who did he beat?
Let's see.
Oh, he beat M.J. Hager.
Democrat, it was the Texas legislature, white woman.
He beat her by eight points.
So let's see.
So since 1988,
we've seen white male Democrats,
lose by massive margins.
We have seen,
a matter of fact, if we just look at this here,
my God,
the closest race,
Victor Morales, Latino, 11 points,
Ron Kirk was 12 points,
Rick Noriega was 12 points.
Let's see here.
Beto O'Rourke was 3 points, was 2.5 points,
and then Colin Allred was 10 points.
Okay, so actually, if you look at the results,
outside of Beto O'Rourke,
white men have gotten crushed
by Republicans.
Just looking at the data.
White women, crushed.
So I'm confused.
Telerico is Latino.
So there's a notion that, oh my God,
Crocket has no chance.
Back to my...
So, can y'all somehow show me
how the data suggests
based upon the history since 1988
that there is a perfect candidate
who somehow can win?
No, in fact, if I actually look at the numbers,
it was a white woman who lost by eight points
to Cornyn in 2020.
It was Beto lost by 2.5 points,
Colin Leroy lost by 10 points.
So actually, the people who got closest,
you got bedro or white male,
you got all red and a white woman.
So explain to me again
why somehow a very popular,
highly rated black woman
just has no shot.
So y'all just got to understand
what these people are placing.
And so when you begin to see
these white progressives on social media
put these things out there,
you're now going to ask,
who's driving this?
Where is it coming from?
Why are these people in D.C., New York, so afraid of Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett?
Anybody ever thought about that?
So, Matt, I spend a lot of time when I'm seeing various comments.
In fact, there was some guys.
Y'all may have seen this on the young Turks.
One guy who was like, oh, yeah, I'm a white guy, and, you know, I'm going to support the white candidate.
Okay, so just showed me how that's worked since 1980.
Well, first, I chuckled when you mentioned about Alameel, because my thought was literally exactly this.
I was like, who is that? I don't remember that person at all. And I voted in most of those elections.
But I think, you know, this speaks to really a larger issue. And I think your point is very well made about what hasn't worked phenotypically, i.e. white men and white women.
But the bigger issue is that in Texas, people just believe that Texas is always going to go red.
There's just this belief here that Democrats are not going to be able to make any inroads.
And what happens every year, you know, rinse and repeat, every time a cycle comes up,
is people get excited about a candidate and they think they're the era parent.
And then they start to concede, oh, well, it's going to be hard out in West Texas.
It's going to be hard out here.
Texas doesn't vote Democrats statewide.
And then the party, one, pulls up lame and two, defaults to your point to whomever they think is going to get
crossover vote. But here's the thing. I mean, James Tolariko, I think is actually a very, very good
candidate. I have nothing bad to say about Tala Rico. I like him. But I don't think that that has
worked, right? Like the idea that Abetto or James Tullarico is going to be the panacea to bring
over people from the Republican Party is just not going to work. What's going to have to work,
which you've said on this show in which my father tells me every time we talk politics,
shout out to my pops, is more people have to actually go vote. In Texas, if people came out in
it would be a blue state. I think that's what the numbers very clearly show. But the Texas Democratic Party always does this, always pulls up lame and it always feels it has to default toward whomever they think is the prototype. And hopefully this is the race where they don't do that. But I do think the bigger thing is they're just going to have to energize people to vote because whether it's Congresswoman Crockett or Tala Rico, neither of them is going to get across the finish line if Texas Democrats concede defeat before the fight actually comes. And that's just what we see every cycle, every time.
time, it's always this concession. Oh, we're not going to win statewide, no matter how energized
we are with the party. And clearly, in 2018, we came very close. I mean, that was a three percentage
point race. I didn't even remember that it was that close. So there's obviously a possibility to
get there, but I think we shoot ourselves on the foot before we start the race. Yeah, and I just,
it's just, it's just nonsensical to me for them that the argument, Candace, is that, oh, my God,
that, first of all, it's an nonsist's a argument
to say, oh, my God, there's no way we can run a black
progressive woman and when, when you ain't won since 1988.
So let's just go there.
Two, it's also dumb because these people act like,
and I'm just going to be very clear, if John Cornyn,
if the incumbent John Cornyn loses to that nutcase corrupt
Attorney General Ken Paxton,
it still ain't going to be a cakewalk for Democrats.
This idea is that, oh my God,
she's destroying our chances to win Texas.
That is literally stupid.
It's just stupid.
Republicans are going to vote.
Ken Paxton is a corrupt attorney general
who should have been impeached,
but Republicans got bought off by billionaires in Texas
and the man beat impeachment.
So there's, so ain't no cakewalk to running.
And here's the other thing, Candace, in my research, they were all mad at Jasmine Crockett
for jumping in the race.
I could not find a single time since 1988 where a Democrat ran in the primary unopposed.
So guess what?
Teller Rico's name ID is lower than Crockett's.
So fact is, you actually need.
Crockett and Tala Rico running against each other in the primary,
so they're campaigning across the state,
so their name ID increases after the March 3rd primary leading to the general.
You don't want them running unopposed.
That's just how stupid these people are.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
And, you know, the truth is when we talk about strategy,
in terms of her even being in the race and what people know about her,
you have to, the fact that we are talking about her
and that everyone else's too
means that somebody is scared, right?
That's what we know for sure.
But strategically, she does have to be in the race, like you said,
for the name recognition,
especially when we talk about the primaries.
Besides that, though, if nobody was talking about her,
if they thought she was going to lose,
that would be a problem too.
I mean, the fact that they're talking of her
about any disruption is a problem in and of itself
because why is there such a problem with her running?
I mean, period, at all.
There's just, you know, everybody has the right to run.
She followed all the rules.
What is the issue?
I think that all of the talk about her means that a lot of people are wondering,
is this woman really going to, to win?
And I think that she is.
I mean, like you said, it's not going to be a cakewalk.
Right.
But it is something that people are paying attention to.
Why?
Because she is a threat.
If no one was saying her name on any given Monday through Sunday,
that would also be a problem.
So I think that.
it's better that we are in this position right now
and talking about her, even in this particular context.
Michael, Senator John Cornyn made this comment here.
You're going to love this here.
I think Telerico is dangerous.
He'll probably beat Jasmine Crockett,
and he's capable of raising a lot of money.
And if you look at the head-to-head with Paxton,
it's tied, actually.
The head-to-head with Paxton actually,
I think it's tied with Crockett.
But here's what's so crazy here.
This is called Ropa Dope.
This is called the Ropa Dote method.
Okay.
So, oh, yeah, let's pump up the, let's pump up Tala Rico
because the data actually shows she's stronger than him.
But here's the thing.
It doesn't matter.
Here's what Democrats in Texas are going to understand,
and why Progressives are going to shut up.
Here's what you need.
You're going to need a massive turnout in Texas,
but Tala Rico or Crockett to win.
And so white progressives,
The one thing you don't want to do
is shit on the black woman
because black people are the largest
black voters in Texas
are the largest group of black voters in the country.
So you're going to need black,
you're going to need massive black turnout
in Harris County, in Dallas County others.
So I'm just saying they may want to like pump their breaks
and just tout your candidate
whether Telarico or Croc can move on,
but the attacks are stupid
because it could backfire.
Yeah, they could backfire, but Roland, this is the fear of highly intelligent, highly accomplished black women.
We saw this with Kamala Harris, the fear of Kamala Harris.
We talked about a number of times on this show, hit pieces from the Washington Post, hit segments from MSNBC attacking Kamala Harris.
I'm talking about long before she jumped into the 2024 presidential race.
we see these attacks trying to undermine Jasmine Crockett.
We see John Cornyn who fears running against Jasmine Crockett.
She has higher name ID than him.
So he wants to run against Tauroico.
So he's trying to pump him up just like you said.
And I have to ask these white progressives,
that that's the label that you want to call yourself.
What the hell are you progressing towards?
Because you make no sense whatsoever.
We have to really ask, you know,
What are you progressing towards?
But this is more of the search for the great white hope.
That's what this is.
And it's real simple.
If he beats you in the primary, he goes to the general.
That's the whole point.
But to say this somehow, the white guy, we've got to have the white guy to run away.
That's so stupid.
I got to stop you there.
I've got to go right now.
Massive ice storm folks and snow is going to be hitting the country.
Significant parts of the country this weekend.
Paul Goodlaw with the Weather Channel joins us right now.
Glad to have him on the show as he, of course,
still soaks with his long horns.
Paul, walk us through.
Oh, man.
Yeah, I took a shot.
But the good thing is he's an alpha, so it's all good.
So, Paul, okay, I've heard, like, this is a go to my iPad.
This is a map right here that massive cold, ice, snow.
People were talking about it was going to be hitting from North Texas all the way up.
almost to the top of the country.
Where do we stand right now?
How significant is this storm?
It's on the way.
Roland, you know, I'm forgive you because you went to that farm school there.
You know, you can't help it.
But moving back to the better topic here,
it's beginning right now in parts of Texas and Oklahoma where you have some snow.
The concern is later tonight we'll start seeing some freezing rain mixing in.
And freezing rain is basically,
we have just enough warm air aloft where it melanched.
that snow into liquid, and as it falls to the ground,
the ground is at or below freezing.
So things like roads or trees or power lines,
sidewalks are below freezing,
so that liquid hits and then freezes as solid ice,
and that's something you cannot drive on, you can't walk on.
And it's one thing if it's 32, 31, 30,
but some of these temperatures are getting at or below 20 degrees,
and then your normal rock salt doesn't work well
when you get below 20 degrees.
So that's not just gonna be a problem
across parts of Texas, Oklahoma.
It pushes eastward into Arkansas tonight,
northern Mississippi,
then into Tennessee, parts of Kentucky,
parts of Alabama, Georgia,
but really concerned with Arkansas,
they could see heavy sleet and ice.
And then we started getting on towards
the Carolinas, the mid-Atlantic Virginia,
West Virginia, Maryland,
I'm in D.C. for the storm,
where we're gonna be right in that line
of sleet and
freezing rain. We're under winter storm morning. We could see even ice storm mornings being
popped up across parts of the mid-south into the mid-Atlantic as well. The northeast, New York,
Philly, Boston, they could see maybe a foot or even a foot and a half of snow. They're going to see
a lot more deeper cold air, so not as much freezing rain, not as much sleet. Again, sleet is
nothing but ice pellets. So we'll take sleet. We'll even take snow. It's that freezing rain
that could be a big player in rolling.
When this storm comes through
Mid-Atlantic and northward on through
Baltimore, Philly, New York, Boston,
our temperatures won't get above freezing
until sometime next weekend.
So a good seven days of temperatures below freezing,
that ice is not going to go anywhere,
that snow is not going to go anywhere,
and it could set the stage for more wintry weather
next weekend, but I don't want to talk about that
because we're not even through
and even, we haven't even started this initially,
events across the majority of the almost 2,000 miles this storm is going to be moving.
So we're talking more than a dozen states are on alert for this here in D.C.
They've been pre-treating the roads.
But again, as long as people stay off the roads, they can deal with it.
There's lots of stuff to talk about, you know, and watch, download some shows.
You've got football on Sunday.
But the main thing is this is going to be a storm here.
at Sunday
that's something you just
don't want to deal with. If you have a choice,
stay home. In fact, I know
probably millions of kids will either be
virtually learning on Monday or just
have a snow day. I mean,
back in our day, you know,
Roland, we had snow days.
There were days where there was no school.
But now, thanks to all the
internet and virtual learning,
you know, snow days have just gone
online. So that's like the worst case
for the kids, if they can't even enjoy the snow.
And this type of weather is meant for kids as if they're enjoying,
not for us adults to kind of go out in the roads and have to deal with us,
because that's going to be a huge concern for travelers.
An airline travel.
Oh, my goodness, they'll be lucky to have flights in the air on Sunday
in the middle of the northeast with all the snow coming down,
and maybe some flights late Monday,
but you can push your travel plans Tuesday would be the day to go.
Well, I had to remind people that was some dude.
he would post, he was like, oh, it's laughable watching these Texans,
how they just responding, buying all this food out,
being a guy from Montana.
And I was like, yeah, just like we laugh at your ass when it comes to heatways.
I mean, so it's like, it's like, dude, it's like, understand.
The reality is different parts of the country, you prepare differently.
In Texas, and I travel a lot, it's, you have very few,
overpasses here in Washington, here in the D.C. area.
It's very few.
What people don't understand is when you've got an overpass,
when you've got a massive freeway that's essentially suspended in air
and there's no ground, that's a floating popsicle.
And so that cold goes under, it goes over,
and that overpass bridge is going to freeze totally different
than a bridge that actually is covering land.
That's one of the reasons why we always say in places like Texas, Atlanta, Georgia, other places,
keep your ass at home because your state is conditioned differently than a Chicago where,
hell, they're like, please, five, six inches, oh, we go on to school, we go on to the mall.
It's just a different standard.
Right, because a couple of years ago, you know, Atlanta had their version of Snowmageddon based on two inches of snow.
But it came in with a flash freeze.
You mentioned bridges and overpasses.
There's an extra layer of air under there that can cool down the entire surface of the bridge.
So even in the South you see signs that say bridges and overpasses freeze first before the road
because they have more cool air underneath that to do that.
And it is so, so true, depending on where it is.
Two inches of snow in Atlanta is considered criteria for a winter storm warning.
Now, two inches in Chicago, hey, maybe an advisory, but it's not a huge concern.
So everything is relative.
I live there six years.
Ain't no advisory in Chicago or two inches.
They like, you bring your ass to work.
You're coming to work.
You're going to school.
We're going, like, that ain't nothing to Chicago.
But that's different, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee.
It's just different.
Right.
But the snow is one thing, Roland, but this thing has the potential to bring paralyzing ice.
And it's even a bigger concern for the South.
The North, yeah, it's a concern everywhere.
But it's treating that.
So simple rock salt, sodium chloride, it's pretty effective to temperatures to about 20, maybe even low 20s.
But then you have to switch to magnesium chloride when you get below 20, which is more expensive.
So these southern states are going to stock up on an expensive kind of road trip that they might use once every five or six years.
It's just not fiscally sound for these southern states and DOTs to do that.
And then here in the north, northern states, they use some type of beet juice and other types of brine because they do this all the time.
So they have the infrastructure.
They know where to get it.
They know how to make it.
And they know how to treat this.
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But those southern states, it's going to be challenging, especially with the temperatures not really getting about freezing.
Fortunately, where we could also have ice storms, say, in Arkansas, they can see temperatures above freezing by Wednesday, which still is a long time to have ice.
And imagine if you can get up a road to put up a power line that is feeding to a subdivision.
That's a huge concern.
But at least those temperatures will be warming above freezing for some hours of the day come midweek.
But other areas here say north of these DC and northward might not get above freezing,
maybe not even next weekend.
So we're talking maybe a week or so below freezing.
So this is a big concern, especially if you lose power and you cannot heat your home.
So, you know, you want to get your supplies.
You want to have alternate ways to staying warm or other places to go to.
People who might have generators and basically prepare for this, especially across the southern states,
like you would for a hurricane.
You didn't have any landfalling hurricanes this past tropical season, fortunately.
So all those supplies that hopefully you had stockpiled for the summer months,
now you can use now as this winter storm is just getting going.
It's real simple.
Keep your ass at home.
Listen, stock up, food, water.
Keep your ass at home.
There's no need for you.
Listen to the, I don't say this often, but listen to the Aggie this time.
Actually, the reason you also should listen to.
to the Aggie because for the state of Texas,
the Texas Division Emergency Management,
go to my iPad, it's located at Texas A&M.
So it's not anywhere else.
So just so you understand, all you haters,
those of you, those of you who went to that little school in Austin,
and those of you whose parents went to that school in Austin,
but you went to Howard, Matt, just remember when you get,
yeah, guess what, you need, in moments like this,
you need that farm school.
And by the way, your little bevo,
is actually cared for at an Aggie's ranch outside of Austin.
All right, we'll be watching.
So, Paul, you said they got you here in the DMV?
Yes, snow should start sometime between, say, 8 p.m. and 10 p.m. tomorrow
and not going to stop until probably early morning hours of Monday.
So, yeah, I got to hunker down.
All right, so you need to come by the house with a gumbo, just let me know.
Okay, I will.
that role. All right. I appreciate it, Brad. Thanks a lot. Giggum. Yeah.
Hook them. Yeah. No, no. Saw horns off. Saw horns off. There you go. Saw horns off. That's
right. Saw horns off. That's for you too, Matt. All right. Thanks so much.
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...minority employees and businesses null and void.
In a formal opinion released on, of course,
the federal holiday of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., James Uthmeyer,
said that the laws violate equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.
And his office won't enforce racially discriminatory laws.
Nikki Free, the chair of the Democratic Party,
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So we'll, do we have, all right, all right, Nikki's frozen?
All right, cool.
So y'all let me know when we have Nikki.
And it goes to show you how, what Republicans are.
But bottom line is.
And this goes to what I keep telling y'all is the defund black America.
And I've been telling you all this for a year.
This is what Republicans are doing on the federal level, on the state level, on the county level, on the city level, school district level.
They are targeting.
This is what my book, White Fear, The Browning of America is making white folks lose their mind,
is all about. Nikki, glad to have you here.
And, Nikki, I have been yelling and screaming this.
Can people understand that Republicans,
they are about advancing a white agenda,
a white male agenda,
and if you are black, if you're Latino,
if you are a woman, they don't care.
This is what they are all about
because they all are touting this,
oh my God, we've been so hurt and injured
because we white men have no shot at success in America.
I don't even know, Roland, I think it's even further than that.
I think that they just truly believe that that is what their base is looking for these days.
And so what the Attorney General did, not only eliminating, you know, 80 of the civil rights laws that are on the books,
but he doesn't have the power to do that.
I mean, like, I went to law school.
I'm a practicing attorney.
And I don't know where anywhere in law school that you learned where the Attorney General of the state just got to say what's constitutional and not constitutional.
And the fact that he did this on MLK Day tells you everything you need to know about who these people are.
And if you remember Roland, I think I was on your show the last time that something happened on MLK Day,
where Ron DeSantis filed those illegal maps, taking away a black minority seat, out of Lawson's seat.
And we've been sitting and fighting about that ever since.
And so they just believe that that is what got Donald Trump elected and this anger about, you know,
that the minorities are going to replace them.
They're putting that now into action.
And as you know, Florida has been the lab brass of 2025
for the last eight years with Ron DeSantis here.
And we've seen them just getting bolder and bolder.
First, it was kind of innuendo racism,
and now they just are not hiding it anymore.
Thinking, Nick, is this is what Republicans do.
We saw the Attorney General in Texas do the same.
The AG and Virginia do the same.
notion that you get to decide what's law or what isn't what legal is crazy. I'm sorry. You just,
you just can't give your opinion and say, oh yeah, we're going to know that law. Sorry.
Right. Well, they did the same thing. He did the same thing on open carry that we had after the
Bruin case out of New York, a group of more extreme right-winged challenged the open carry
here in the state of Florida, and the Attorney General refused to protect the laws that were
actually on the books. And so now Florida's an open-carry state. And so I don't know why they believe
that they've got this kind of power to the job of the Attorney General. I don't care what state
you're in. It is the first lines of the Constitution in describing the roles of the Attorney General
is to defend the laws on the book, not to give their opinion about the laws on Constitutional
or not unconstitutional. That is the job of the judiciary, which right now is not necessarily
doing their jobs either. And the fact is there's no pushback from the Republicans. They're getting
away with this. And this is why the American people have to understand that our democracy is falling
every single day and that we as Americans have to come together and say enough is enough and build
coalitions across our states and across our country that is going to stand up for a rule of law.
So many people have fought for our civil rights here in our state and our country and have bled
and been arrested and beaten and moved so forward.
on, still have a lot more work to do,
but they are taking us so far back
that we're going to have to stand united again
and fight for our rights.
Uh, cost us for my panel.
Matt, Manny.
Matt, you're on mute, Matt.
Okay.
Matt.
I thought it was just me.
I'm here, Robin.
See, see, you damn, you damn long more supporters.
Don't know how to hit the dog on mute button, see.
Do we need, do we need to do a diagram for you?
What?
And this gate, are you?
Are you ready to continue with the important business?
Oh, I'm waiting.
Are you ready to continue with the important business?
Oh, I'm sorry, man.
You didn't hear that Florida Gator said, we beat y'all ass.
And so go ahead.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I didn't hear that.
But in any event, I'm focused on the task at hand.
All right.
Anyway, Nikki, I was just going to ask you,
you know, what has kind of been the response to this attorney general saying he's
not going to enforce the law?
What I've seen in Texas and what you may have seen in Florida as well as one
of the things they've tried to attack prosecutors on is their, you know, decision not to enforce
the law. So when you have the attorney general saying we're not enforcing laws because we think
it basically supports black people too much, that's obviously talking out of both sides of your neck.
What are you say to that? And how are you all responding to the attorney general saying he's
not going to do his job?
Yeah, I mean, this is a problem because we've seen from, you know, we saw the last couple years
that Broncos Santos, that he has removed attorney generals, state attorneys here in the state,
Monique Rorrell, you know, dynamic black female out in Orange County that he removed for
quote unquote not doing her job. And the same thing, another gentleman my name of Andrew Warren,
they replaced, you know, removed him for quote unquote not willing to enforce the law. So the irony
in hypocrisy is just overwhelming. So this past week, our state of black caucus legislators,
they're in the middle legislative session at a tremendous press conference this week.
I do believe that there will be lawsuits that will be filed based on the decision on Monday.
And it's just starting to really kind of hit people exactly what, you know, as you know,
that media doesn't cover everything.
In fact, didn't cover any of this.
And so we're having to really educate the people across our state about this moment.
And this pattern of corruption and chaos that is coming out of Tallahassee, this guy is not even elected.
He was appointed by Ron DeSantis after they moved Ashley Moody out to be the U.S. senator,
who is now just taken, you know, every cue from both, you know, first it was Ron DeSantis,
and now it is Donald Trump. And so now we've got this guy here who is unelected, who is a two-year-old,
who has spent more of his time trying to harm the people of this state instead of protecting them,
sort of fighting for them, for holding consumer, you know, holding corporations' account of going after
consumers, insurance companies. I mean, we aren't just in such chaos here in our state
with the overreaching and power grabbing from the executive branch.
And unfortunately, our legislators are just our Republican legislators
are not doing anything to hold these guys accountable,
which is why we do believe that the pendulum is swinging here in Florida,
and people are waking up to this corruption and chaos.
Michael?
All right, Nikki Freed, thanks for coming on and sharing this with us.
So I've been following this story.
Two quick questions.
One, is there any...
Is there any type of legal action that can be taken from the Attorney General not enforcing 80 state laws that are already on the books, number one?
Number two, what has been the response from African Americans there in Florida who see that these are policies that deal with supporting minority contracting, promoting diversity, et cetera, and will directly impact them?
What have you heard any response from the African-American community besides the elected officials?
Yeah, so first of all, the, I mean, the reality is that if any of us had done this, we would be impeached, we would be sued.
And so that is the things that we don't have the power to remove.
We are in a super minority in both chambers.
We don't have that power here to actually impeach and remove the Attorney General.
And so there will be lawsuits.
I know that there is plenty of attorneys that they're already looking into lawsuits to be.
filed to make sure that enforce the fact that he asked. His job is to enforce the laws not to make
those decisions of what is constitutional and not constitutional. When it comes to, you know, the rest
of the black community is why we're coming on to the show is because a lot of people don't know
what's going on. There hasn't been a mass publication about this. It's just obviously happened on
Monday. And so there's not been a widespread real information and which is why we're trying to get
this information out there coming on here. Having the press conference earlier this week in
Tallahassee is to make sure that we're getting the word out there that that at the end of the day
we have to vote because if we don't vote and we don't organize we don't get out there and don't
understand that there is a huge difference between Democrats and Republicans I am not asking
anybody to love Democrats what I'm asking people to see is who do we want to be as an
Americans and who does we want the future of our state to look like and that's when we
build this coalition that to start to dismantle the power grab and the hold that these
Republicans have had over our state and it's getting into these
communities, making sure they're aware, and not just going anti. But look, let's build back power
here in our state and then build a coalition where everybody has a seat at table and that we're
protecting these laws and we're protecting the people of our communities. And Roland knows this.
After I was down being Commissioner of Agriculture, I was not intending to run for chair of this
party. But the second that they filed a piece of legislation at House Bill 999 that attacked
higher education, I was passed student body president to the University of Florida. And I know that
I would not be the person I am, the leader I am today if it wasn't for the experiences that I got
outside the classroom. And that's what got me off my couch to run for this position, knowing that
we've worked so hard to get us into a place where we are moving the ball forward on diversity
and equality and inclusion. And now they are stripping all of that. It has now become a bad
word in the state of Florida, have threatened funding at the local level, the university levels.
And unfortunately, I mean, I still sit on the board of trustees for the university law school, and I walk into those rooms, and they said that all the endowment money is drying up because people want to give resources for specific programs, and now the universities can't take those resources.
Candace.
So out of these 80 laws that will potentially go away, which ones do you think people should know about that will have the most impact that they may not have even thought about?
You know, to be honest, I haven't dissected all 80 laws yet to see exactly which ones will or will not impact the most.
But it's the totality of it.
You know, it's a totality of making sure whether it's in the prison system or it's in, more importantly, in grants and access to small business loans inside of our state as well as inside of our local governments.
So, you know, to be honest, I have not dissected all 80 of these laws to see which one's going to be.
the most impactful, but the fact that it is a totality of 80 laws and it is the direction
that the state has been taking for the last six years, making it more and more dangerous
in our state.
And it's on me.
And it is on me and the party to make sure that we're communicating to all parts of our
state that we're organizing.
And then we're giving people hope that when you vote, that change can happen.
It can't just be anti.
It's got to be ways to say, this is what we're going to do to protect and to make sure that
your cost of living goes down and making sure that you have equal opportunity.
for success in the state of Florida, and that is not the case right now.
Nikki, on that particular point, you saw a big win there in Miami, a mayoral race.
You've got your primaries in August, general election in November, gubernatorial race this year.
You got several people who are running, including former Republican David Jolly, running as a Democrat.
How has it been going with fundraising, with organizing and mobilizing?
Folks have written off Florida.
they were like, okay, it's just red, red, red,
but if you don't organize it,
there's going to be a problem.
So how has that been going and answer that?
And I think a question.
Go ahead.
Okay.
First of all, don't ever count Florida out.
Don't ever count Florida out.
Florida is worth fighting for,
and that is what we are doing here.
We launched last year what we're calling the Pendulum Project,
which is a year-round statewide organizing model.
Last year, we were able to be in contact
with over 3 million voters in the state of Florida.
We flipped around seven of our down ballot races from city and county commission races.
I saw the incredible Miami race that was the first time in 30 years a Democrat was elected
to the city of Miami, the first female to have actually been elected.
There's been a previous female who was, I think, the vice mayor who came up, the first black
female, actually.
And so we are seeing momentum everywhere we're going.
We're seeing an overperformance in the state of Florida.
And we saw overperformance across the entire country.
But Florida overperform the rest of the country by seven points.
There is something happening here in the state of Florida, whether it is the unaffordability crisis of our state that I can consistently speak about, whether it's property insurance, property taxes, rent, electricity, after-school programs.
They've liquidated our public educations and our public schools.
And so there's just a lot that are going on that people are starting to wake up and say this is not acceptable.
We need people in office that are going to lower the cost of living, protect us.
And of course you have the corruption.
So Nick is audio there.
So let me know if we get it back because I do want to ask her one question.
So is she gone?
Is she there?
All right.
All right.
So we got to connect back.
So let me do this here because we want to ask her one more questions.
Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson didn't hold back his thoughts on Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas when a reporter.
questioned the mayor by the city facing a lawsuit over its reparations task force.
Ooh, this was lovely.
It's come to our attention that judicial watch is suing the city of Chicago
over its reparations task force saying that it's discriminatory by race when you said that
it wouldn't just benefit blacks, especially foundational black Americans.
So the question is, doesn't deviation from the recently supported case law, I think the biggest one being, I think, in 2023 with two institutions of higher learning where Clarence Thomas laid out a legislative package for that, make the program unnecessarily vulnerable to sabotage by the court's race,
status by race versus status by injured class?
Yeah, I'm not aware of anything that Clarence Thomas has ever done that has benefited black people.
I'm just not aware.
Well, I just told you.
Yeah, well, I mean, you read something, but there's no evidence that anything that the justice has ever done on behalf of the interests of black people or even marginalized people in general.
It's in his current opinion.
but anyway.
But as far as any lawsuit against the city of Chicago as it relates to reparations,
the whole point of reparations is to repair the harm that was done to black folks.
That's what it's designed to do.
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As you might know, is that the Department of Justice under the leadership of Donald Trump
is also suing the city of Chicago because of our efforts to right the wrongs of the past,
particularly as it relates to descendants of slaves.
you know, look, they can't have it both ways, right?
They can't, you know, accuse the city of Chicago of focusing solely on black folks
while at the same time trying to make a claim that somehow we're doing the opposite of that.
All right, damn.
Way to go, Mary Johnson.
We got Nikki Friede back.
Nikki, you were describing the initiative y'all launch where you're organizing year-round
and not just during election season.
Yeah, and it's making a huge difference that we overperformed last year in the state of Florida more than the national average.
And we're seeing red areas flip blue.
Cambia County for the first time since 1980s, twice last year.
And so we really are seeing this momentum everywhere in our state.
We are talking about the unaffordability prices, whether Florida right now is a number one state in the nation for the ACA.
And so we know that when people are starting to see that they can't afford their health care,
We've got agriculture is suffering here in the state of Florida.
So there's just a lot that is going on in this moment.
We've got incredible candidates running up and down the ticket everywhere part of our state
that is bringing real truth to power that is talking to the voters, that is organizing on the ground.
And so don't end of our count Florida out, and you can't.
We all know that 40% of the American population has moved to the South.
And if we as Democrats ever believe that we're going to hold on to the White House or to majority in the House and to the Senate,
We have to be investing in the South.
That is Georgia. That is North Carolina.
That is Texas. That is Louisiana. That is Alabama.
This is where democracy falls is in the South.
And if we don't start as an institutional activist and party donors have to be getting resources down to the South.
We are the front lines of all of the movement backwards, whether it is on black history or it is the history of this country or, you know, DEI programs.
we are all suffering because of the lack of resources that have been put into the South for real programming on the ground.
And so that's what we're doing. And that's really what we're seeing, the overperformance and all of our seats.
Like I said, even the city of Miami was a 20-point switch move to the left.
In Miami Beach, we had a 48-point switch moved to the left.
Over-performance and the county called Hernando, where we saw 36 points.
So the programming on the ground is working.
And so for those who are watching, I want to see Florida continue to fight for everyday people that are living in our state, you know, certainly go to Florida Dems.org.
We are building back power here in our state, every community, every city, every county, all walks of life.
Because at this moment and time, we're building a coalition of Floridians that are ready to fight back with us.
Well, what you just laid out is what I have said constantly to folks that if you want to win, it can't just be during election season.
It has to be just 365.
It has to be politicians,
city council members, county commission, state rep, state centers,
holding town halls, and doing what I say.
You've got to educate, enlighten, and inform people about the issues
and what's going on because you've got to connect the dots.
And we can't assume that people know what's going on,
and you're not going to learn this stuff just by running a television commercial or radio spot.
No, you can't win Florida that way.
And I have been very consistent on that for many years.
that you have got a lot of these consultants,
both at the state and national level,
that tell our candidates to spend a lot of money,
to raise a lot of money,
and then hold the money for the TV commercials at the end.
That is not how you're ever gonna win the hearts
and the minds of the people.
You gotta be showing up, you gotta be listening,
and you gotta find real solutions to their everyday problems.
People are so angry at both sides of the aisle
for just talking to talk and not finding solutions
to their problems.
We have to make sure that not only are we addressing
the problems that people are facing,
but showing what Democrats are in this position,
to help them, whether it's after-school programs or it's, you know, lunch programs, both,
you know, universal lunch, universal breakfast, it's small business loans, it's investing in communities,
investing in people, coming up with new ideas, you know, the new deal was 50 plus years ago.
Maybe there's a conversation that we need to have new policies to help people and lift people up
and give them those opportunities for the American dream.
Most people in our country, especially here in the state of Florida, can't even contemplate
buying a home. I mean, you've got to be so far along in your career to be able to afford homes.
And we're pricing out our seniors. We are pricing out those who are just graduating from high school,
young families, and we're doing nothing to make sure that the people who are the fuel and the engine
of our state, our economy, have the resources to have a good quality way of life and to make
sure that they've got the financial resources to put food on the plates, to pay for their health care,
to pay to make sure that they can pay for their rent and their electric bills.
And if they're working two jobs, that there's after-school programs for their children.
The state of Florida has completely neglected so many parts of our state.
Time is, it needs to end.
Florida is so much better.
And we're going to continue showing up for our communities and hopefully regain their trust.
All right.
Nikki Free, we appreciate it.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks for having me, Rowlands.
All right, folks.
Now it's time for our Black Star Network Headlines with Brits.
Noble. Hey, her new show The Breakdown
launches on Monday. It's going to be a daily
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here we go with headlines.
A man in North Carolina has
been sentenced to three years for threatening
diners with an AR-15 and a racist
attack. 32-year-old
Maurice Hopkins will spend
his time in federal prison for carrying
a loaded assault rifle into
a Charlotte Pizza restaurant.
Hopkins threatened to shoot
and kill eight people because of their race.
He harassed the victims at the restaurant, calling them terrorists,
and demanding they speak English,
along with telling them to go back to their country.
According to the police affidavit,
some of the victims are Indian origin.
Hopkins was arrested a few days after the incident
and faced multiple charges until pleading guilty to one charge
in a plea agreement with federal prosecutors.
Signs detailing the lives of enslaved people
who lived in the president.
House in Philadelphia, a historic site operated by the National Park Service, has been removed,
prompting a legal challenge from the city. When the site once home to the president's George
Washington and John Adams opened in 2010, activists successfully pushed for exhibits acknowledging
the enslaved Africans who lived there and labored there. Well, the U.S. Department of Interior
said the displays were taken down to comply with President Trump's executive order titled,
restoring truth and sanity to American history.
In response, the city of Philadelphia filed a federal lawsuit seeking to have the signs restored.
The mayor said the city's agreement with the federal government, which dates back to 2006,
requires that both parties meet and confer before changes are made to that exhibit.
New York taxpayers who shell out more than $200,000 for woke community groups to talk about slavery reparations.
despite New Yorkers fight to end the Civil War.
The taxpayer money, it will select organizations
who will collaborate with the NYC Commission
on racial equity to develop recommendations for repair,
collect truth testimony from New Yorkers,
and work with researchers.
The organization, Corps, says it plans to award
up to 13 nonprofits, community groups,
or minority and women-owned businesses
more than $17,000.
That totals $227,500.
Well, tennis star Coco Golf is putting her money behind HBCU student athletes.
She's donated $150,000 to the United Negro College Fund to support students who play collegiate tennis at historically black colleges and universities.
Contribution builds on an initiative that she launched in 2025 when she gave $100,000 to UNCF, funding scholarships at Alabama A&M, Albany State, Clark Atlanta, Howard, Livingstone, and Television.
Tuskegee University. She says her commitment is personal, knowing that her family's connection
to HBCU's dates back generations. The latest donation will support the Coco Golf Scholarship Program,
helping HBCU tennis players continue their education and compete at the collegiate level.
Well, the grandmother of Juneteenth, Ms. Opel Lee now has a Barbie doll that was released as part
of Mattel's inspiring women series. She gained national acclaim after cementing June
19th status as a federal holiday in 2021, thanks to years of advocacy, which included a
1,400-mile walk to Washington, D.C. The 99-year-old Fort Worth Native has been awarded
the Presidential Medal of Freedom and was a Nobel Peace Prize nominee. Roland.
All right, going to a break. We come back. Let's talk about sinners getting a record number of
Oscar nominations. And ooh, the white supremacists are mad. Big man. Big man.
We'll talk about that next.
Roll up Martin unfiltered on the Blackstown Network.
Next on the Black Table with me, Greg Kahn, Succession.
We're hearing that word pop up a lot these days
as our country continues to fracture and divide.
But did you know that that idea,
essentially a breaking up of the USA,
has been part of the public debate
since long before and long after the Civil War,
right up to today.
On our next show, you'll meet Richard Crighton.
The author of this book, who says,
breaking up this great experiment called America
might not be such a bad thing.
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Roland Martin unfiltered.
All right, the most dominated film of all time in Oscar history
is now sinners.
They got 16 Oscar nominations for the 98th of Catalyst.
Academy Awards, Ryan Coogler's period vampire drama received the most nominations ever.
The total surpassed the previous high 14 nominations, a milestone shared by the 1950 film All About Eve, 1997's Titanic, and 2016, La La Land.
The 16 nominations include actress in a supporting role, of course, makeup and hair styling, music, original score, writing original screenplay, actor in a supporting role, Delroy Lindo, casting, costume design, that's
Ruth Carter. Music, original song,
production design, film editing,
sound, visual effects, cinematography,
actor in a leading role.
And, of course, Michael B. Jordan,
best director, Ryan Coogler,
and Best Picture as well.
When you talk about
the novel Best Production Design, that's
Hannah Beecher. And, of course,
this is her second time being nominated
and she previously won.
Senators is the highest grossing original horror film
of all-time earning more than $370
million. And
I must say it was just downright lovely, Michael,
to watch all of the racists like Matt Walsh
just meltdown because of sinners.
He was just beside himself and was just upset.
And just, it's like when everyone pretended
that Black Panther was some kind of citizen,
some kind of cinematic masterpiece,
go to my iPad.
everyone knows what's going on here.
Almost all of the praises exclusively
because of the black cast and director,
easily one of the most overrated movies ever made.
So that was one of the tweets he put up,
let's see here, it was another one.
I was just cracking up laughing.
I was like, it wasn't the greatest movie ever made,
but it's much better than sinners.
He's talking about this other film.
Also, it's pretty family-friendly.
Sorry, Matt.
We don't really give a shit.
What the white supremacists think?
Yeah, Roller, you know, when you were talking about the white supremacist, Matt Walsh,
I automatically thought about the backlash that the movie Black Panther got.
And Ryan Coogler directed that movie as well.
It was a cinematic masterpiece.
White supremacist may not have understood the movie, but once again,
and Ruth Carter was the costume designer for that one and won an Oscars.
This is great news for African-American movies, directors, predominantly African-American cast.
That is a different type of movie.
Now, I haven't seen Senators yet.
I don't watch a lot of movies.
I'm going to watch Centers as weekend.
But, well, Roland, I do research.
I got thousands of articles printed up here.
I don't watch a lot of movies, Roland.
I don't watch a lot of movies.
When does Senators come out?
When does Senators come out, y'all, like, damn it, January or last year?
You asked had 12 months
I can't remember the last time
I think the last time
I went to the movies
was to see Black Panther 2 Wakanda forever
I don't go to the movies a lot
I got look I have Netflix
I have no look
I have Netflix
I have Amazon Prime
I have
Sin it's on TV series
It's not streaming
I know I said I'm gonna watch it this week
and rolling I don't watch a lot of movies
I'm busy doing research
I'm busy.
You ain't that damn busy.
I don't watch a lot of movies.
Hold on.
Candice busy.
Matt busy.
I'm busy.
You know, Roland, I'm just so busy.
I do my show.
I work full time.
I do research.
But, you know, I'm happy for the cast.
I got a two-hour show.
I got a network.
I'm happy for the show.
I've been writing a book.
I've been selling the other book.
I do by 30.
30 and 40 speeches a year.
I'm working on projects.
I'm working on project.
And I found time to go see, I found time to go see Senors to go see F1.
Oh, my God, I'm just something.
Whatever.
What's F1?
What's that?
I don't know what F1 is.
But anyway.
Spoken like someone who doesn't go to the movies.
I'm done with you.
I'm done with you.
Michael, you're done with you.
You come into my time.
You can't tell my time.
You're done with you.
Michael, I'm done with you.
But hopefully Senors win actually wins some of these awards like that picture.
You ain't seen nothing to say it should win.
So let me go to Candice.
I read the article.
I'm familiar with Senors.
You know what?
Candice, you have the floor, Candice, you have the floor.
Candice, you have the floor.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You know, let me just say this.
Michael, part of your research is watching these movies when it comes to culture and, you know,
social currency and the arts and things of that nature.
So you got to turn it on.
You just have to turn.
Well, I did watch both Black Panther movies because I did two.
extensive presentations.
Because you probably watched them, you probably watched them three years later.
No, no, no, no.
I went to the theater to watch them.
You probably watched the first Black Panther when Black Panther 2 came out.
And you probably watched Black Panther 2 when Cinnis came out.
I was there for the premiere of Black Panther.
No, no.
My Michael's on the two-year delay plan.
Man, go ahead.
Man, go ahead.
You know what?
You know what, Michael, I'm going to stand strong with you, brother, because I ain't seen the movie either.
And it's all right.
Oh my, Roman, it's just you and me.
I'm not gonna lie.
Okay, let me just go.
Candace, you can talk more.
Go ahead.
Oh, my.
Roland, at this point is just you and me.
Let me just kind of explain what it means when we,
this is why, and regardless of how you feel about the Oscars,
it is nice to see that, you know, a lot of black folks are acknowledged.
And the fact is that when we have movies
and you have even great series on television,
television. This is something that strikes a chord in the culture, and this is what helps
black people to thrive. I mean, I'm just thinking about you and your research theory, man. You
got to watch these movies to understand what's going in the culture because the culture
fuels the algorithm on social media and vice versa. And that's what this world is kind of really
doing. Trust me. I know what's going on in the culture because I predict it. But I know what's going
on in the culture. However, I'm not against the movie. I'm not against centers. I just
I just, you know, I don't watch horror movies.
Oh, now we don't watch this one.
Now we don't watch horror movies.
Oh, my God.
I mean, watching MSNBC is my type of horror movie.
Watching Minneapolis and ICE domestic terrorists.
That's the whole thing, though.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
The thing about this is what we see a lot of times with movies is you see the white
supremacists come out anytime they're mad that a movie's been adapted
with a black character or whatever, right?
but in terms of meritocracy
this is this is proof
positive of kind of what we're seeing
across the country that black is
per se less than right
because it's not a black
adaptation of a movie it's a movie that has a lot of
black people in it and Matt Walsh
and his ilk automatically think that it cannot
be qualified to break the record
I'm sorry and it's an original
this is an original
precisely this is like this study and based on a book
this is all coming out of rising
cooler's mind.
And I thought it was amazing.
And again, out of all the people nominated,
I am absolutely ecstatic about Dillory Lindo.
First of all, let's be real clear.
Dillor Lindo absolutely should have been nominated
for Malcolm X.
I mean, West Indian Archie was insane.
The Five Bloods should have been nominated
in that Spike Lee movie as well.
This is what this morning,
He was on Good Morning America, and this is how he responded and reacted.
This is just awesome.
Thank you.
Congratulations.
Oh, my gosh.
What a joy.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
So, thank you.
Such a pleasure.
Oh, my gosh, such a pleasure.
I have to tell you yesterday, when we had the announcements happening live on Good Morning America,
and your name was called out, it got the hugest.
Yes, just people were so thrilled for you.
Thank you.
Online, everybody's showing you all this love.
And after five decades of acting, what is this like for you?
Now listen, when everybody says five decades,
I started when I was four.
Yes, we knew that.
We knew that.
But what does it feel like today?
It feels terrific.
I mean, I'm still processing, if I'm really honest.
But it's wonderful.
And part of my response has to do with how positive
everybody else's response has been a lot of support,
a lot of love. It feels really good.
That has to feel so good.
And Deborah was just saying you were in bed when you learned.
So did you just jump out of bed?
No, no, no, no, no.
My son called me.
I was in bed.
I was kind of halfway between being asleep and waking.
And the phone rang and I picked it up.
And my son was on the other line.
And it's perfect that I got the news from him.
Yeah.
How did he tell you?
I can't say it on the air.
I'm sure you've heard of Diane Warren.
She's an incredible artist who has been nominated so many times.
She had like a party waiting for it.
You chose not to do that.
Was it on your mind wondering if it would happen or how did you prepare?
Yes.
It's difficult to ignore.
I was trying to maintain a certain distance
because I was not sure of what would happen, obviously.
And so, yeah, it's difficult to,
not have it on your mind, but I was trying as much as I could to just let it be what it was going to be.
Yeah.
So 16 nominations, record-breaking for this film that has just been received with such love.
People are just can't stop talking about it.
I was wondering if you have had a chance to talk to the director, the creator.
I spoke with Ryan yesterday.
You did?
I did.
I spoke with some of my castmates.
But Ryan and I had a long talk.
and in true Ryan fashion, he just wanted to talk about me.
Oh, wow.
And I don't have the words to articulate how thrilled I am for him.
Because from the very first time I read the script,
I saw what he was trying to do, and it's extraordinary that.
Audiences have embraced it and embraced his vision.
Well, that's what I wanted to ask you about,
because it's not obvious.
I would imagine when you first read the script
that you, that it would get the kind of reaction.
No, I had no idea.
I knew it was very, very special.
I knew it was a very particular project.
But I, no, I had no idea.
It would get this kind of response.
Thank you.
1985, colored purple, got a whole bunch of nominations.
Uh-oh, here we go.
And I'm just stating.
And there were a lot of black folks
who were sitting there watching and waiting.
And they named didn't get called one time.
So I'm just,
that's why I said.
I hope they're winning.
I'm just,
I'm just reminded people.
Michael,
have you seen the color purple?
Unfortunately,
yes.
I'm just checking.
Matt,
Matt,
have you gotten around to the color purple?
I have,
but I wasn't alive in 1985,
so I don't remember anything.
I'm sorry.
Yeah,
okay.
Well,
I'm sorry.
So for those of you who were not born yet,
the color purple guy,
A number of nominations and best picture, best supporting, all that sort of stuff, and no trophies.
And I remember the next day going to school, man, Negroes were hot the next day.
Matter of fact, I don't think that, I probably the most pissed off I think black people were since the since that.
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I'm the color purple.
It had to be during COVID when they played up.
the best actor category, and they saved it for last,
and people thought it was going to be a posthumous Oscar for Chadwick Bowesman.
Mm-hmm.
And what's his name one, who played Clarice, Anthony.
Anthony Hopkins.
And then Anthony Hopkins wasn't.
And he wasn't even there.
And he wasn't even there.
I think he was in Ireland.
And then when he dropped his video, he even referenced Chad were in it.
But people were pissed up like,
Your ass made us sit here for three and a half hours
and watch this bullshit,
and you say that black folks were cussing,
so I'm just trying to let y'all know.
16 now, it's a good, it's a good,
you get 16, you're going to win something.
But, but, I'm just letting y'all know,
things ain't guaranteed when it comes to the Oscar,
because you're not, y'all, they can talk all that stuff you want to,
but most of them Oscar voters, still some old white folk.
So just letting y'all know, brace yourself.
And now I have a recommendation for Michael because since he's not a TV watcher, whatever,
and since, you know, Delroy Lindo, you'll keep on track with that.
Go ahead and check out the good fight.
It's a TV series, which he leads.
It is very good.
If you want to celebrate Del Boy a little more, if you don't want to, you know, do the whole sinners thing.
Go ahead and watch that.
Well, I'm going to watch centers.
I'm going to watch centers.
You know, I don't watch a lot of scripted TV series.
I watch Godfather of Harlem.
Oh, my Godfather of Harlem.
That's my favorite one.
Because what my teachers, Professor Jane Small,
whose picture you see behind me,
he's the historical consultant for the show.
And I knew Buffy Johnson's grandson.
Okay, all right.
So that's one of my favorite TV shows.
Yeah, well, thank goodness.
At least you're on a TV.
But, um...
All right.
Yeah, bro.
show the TV.
I have two TVs,
but he's all right, but go ahead.
You know, I'm just busy,
I'm just busy doing research.
So, but I want to watch centers.
My girlfriend just sent me a text message.
He said, we're going to watch centers together.
So I'm going to watch centers.
I may do a lecture on it.
But just see,
so Roland Thet thought I was lying
when I was talking about doing research, right?
So for my two lectures on Black Panther,
these are two of the books that I read.
Okay.
To actually do research.
I did three months for research on the first Black Panther.
Oh, you read a common book.
To be able to do lecture.
No, no, no, no, no.
This deals with the, no, no, no, no.
This deals with the 52-year history of the Black Panther coming.
This is called the ultimate guide black Panther from Marvel.
Michael, Michael, stop it.
Because we know Matt ain't read all of.
He got all them damn law books behind him.
So it ain't like you're the only one sitting here doing some damn research.
I mean, him and Ken has got cases.
Oh, my God.
No, no, I'm not to be able to do.
I know my God.
My whole life.
That comes from the comic books.
My whole life, I'm busy doing research.
I'm just doing research.
I am.
You have me so curious.
As someone who I know you have seen good times and Jefferson's and all of that growing up.
He ain't seen all the rules.
I have.
I'm assuming you have.
But when did you stop?
I met us to roll, actually.
She was a member of Zeta Beta Sorority Incorporated.
You know what?
I met us the role.
Put a book mark.
Go ahead.
Okay.
So let me go and play this here.
So for Ryan Coolblo, for Delrin, Lindo and everybody was sinners, in case they don't do right,
just remember what Denzel told Jamie Fox.
Let me tell you Sean Connery's story.
He was up for the Untouchables.
I was up that year for, I think it was Cry of Freedom.
He comes out to present an award and got a three-minute standing ovation.
For presenting an award.
Wow.
I went to get the coats.
I was never get the coats
Because I know I ain't winning tonight
So now we're leaving
I'm leaving without the Oscar
But as I'm leaving
I see the back of where they're doing
The meal ready
The food ready for the Governor's Bowl
I see a big tray
I'm like I'm leaving here with something
You know I mean
I'm from around the way
So
I'm sure there's going to be
So here's where I know
At least we know what's going to happen
the Beyonce JZ
after party are going to be insane
so Sinner's going to have a great time later
so I'm just saying so
let's just make sure nobody gets slapped
let's make sure
that happens
and yeah so it's going to be
real interesting to see
all right y'all
hey I need everybody to be safe
this weekend
oh yeah now probably the only person
on this panel who is
good. Matt, his ass way to hell
down in South Texas.
Trust me, they ain't getting no ice down
in Corpus Christi.
No, no.
Matter of fact, let me see what the temperature
I don't even know why Matt has
got a jacket on.
Because he knows
he's no damn way. I like what it says.
I like it says Howard. You know why.
Ain't you?
Oh, wait. Wait a minute. Hold on. Hold on.
Drop the low third. Matt actually is
wearing Howard gear.
I mean, I need everybody watching to do a screenshot.
See, right down, it's 69 degrees in Corpus Christi.
What the feel like?
The feel like is 66.
Y'all, take a screenshot because Matt came on here in an orange-ass suit.
Matt reps their little school in Austin,
and so to see him in a Howard,
this is where he actually went to school.
His mom and daddy went to the other school.
You know what I love about this?
You act like Ricky Smiley.
Ricky Smiley went to Alabama A&M,
and Ricky Smiley's cream,
a University of Alabama road tied all day.
Then I got,
then I had to remember,
Alabama ain't got no proteins.
So the University of Alabama,
the University of Alabama,
that's the state's protein.
So I told Ricky,
Ricky, why I never seen you in the Alabama A&M
paraphernalia?
Nothing.
He always representing,
University of Alabama.
So that's how that goes.
So,
there we go.
All I'm a say.
We appreciate.
All of a say.
All of good load came on this show
and called A&M a farm school.
And guess what?
I'm not the only one.
You're out there with the homes and the dog.
And let me explain something to you.
Okay.
Guess what?
We got the best vet school in the nation.
We ain't got a problem with that.
See, we have no problem knowing who we are.
Y'all at Concrete you.
And let me be real clear.
you all need
y'all your little animals
y'all send down to A&M
we got a problem having a bed school
and a business school and a law school
and them all kind of different stuff
oh by the way we do know
who is the largest university in Texas
not your law school
wait let's get this right you bought a law school
no no no there's no deal first of all I'm
excuse me big bank take a little bank
sorry
excuse me
excuse me
I don't know
excuse me
I don't know
Howard's at a law school
for I don't know
100 plus years
I mean so
I mean y'all bought a law school
and guess what
those things happened
those things happen
yeah so it's all good
and I love that you
you made my point for me
by leading with the country
thing you can say
we got a great vet
no no no no no no
no first of all
you criticized by saying
farm
I'm acknowledging the fact
that we have
an amazing vet school leading researcher in the country
of one of the top vet schools in the world.
So don't hate, congratulate.
I might let you celebrate.
In matter of fact, when your bison gets sick,
send them down to A&M.
We'll fix it.
We'll fix it.
We'll fix it.
We'll fix it.
No, that can't happen.
He can't keep with his school.
He can be talking and I can't give your words.
That can happen because you don't pay them.
I hear that.
I hear that.
If anybody in that control room do any adjustment to my microphone,
they ass ain't showing up on Monday.
Hey, y'all call me if y'all having any employment cases.
You know what I'm saying?
If it's a hospital work environment.
You can't try that.
You can't feel.
I can't really talk.
Hold on.
You can try that, but guess what?
You ain't licensed to practice here.
How do you know that?
Because I do.
You don't know how reciprocity work?
First of all, son.
You don't know what ProHoc is?
You know, dog on way.
Somebody tell rolling about ProHoc Vche.
That don't you tell you about that, Ken.
That don't work because I've had numerous conversations with attorneys who could not
practice here.
You're nice try, but you can't.
I don't know.
It's so good.
Maybe it happens all the time.
Guess what?
You can try all you want to.
All I'm saying is touch that microphone, see what happened.
I don't know, y'all.
That sounds like a threat to me.
See what happened.
No, no, no.
You don't want begging.
Ain't nobody going to move it.
Like, you ain't messing up my check.
They're like, Matt, you ain't all that.
They said, Matt, you're time for us to go home, they said, they said, Matt,
they said, Matt, your cat, your cash, balance ain't that big.
anything else you want to say?
I don't know.
You don't know what I got in my pockets.
Matt, first of all,
first part, Matt, you should not talk about microphone
because you just learn how turning yours back on.
You came back from a segment a minute ago,
you were muted.
Yeah, I was muted because, see, I talk
or doing somebody else's talking during the break,
that's what I do, and so you turn the microphone off
so therefore you don't have any bleed over.
That's what we do.
So, that's how this works.
Yeah, we heard your Matthew McConaughey on break.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold up, hold up.
I'm going to show you y'all something,
how this is work. I'm going to show you how this work.
Stephen, turn off Matt, Mike.
Oh, oh.
Matt, keep talking.
Steve, turn Matt microphone back on.
Well, it's been fun, y'all.
Steve, turn Matt Mike back off.
Steve, turn Matt microphone back on.
Oh, my goodness.
All right.
All right, all right, all right.
Now, who's your daddy?
Not your dad.
Now, who's your daddy?
Don't, hey, in the way.
words of Mel Brooks from the history of the world, part one.
It's good to be the king.
All right, we got to go.
Let me thank Candice.
Michael, your ass, can't come back until you go watch sinners.
And Matt, you can't come back.
You're black, both of your black cars are in probationary status.
It's right.
Y'all, tell y'all, see, so y'all got to,
If you come back next week, I need to see a screenshot of you watching sinners.
And then there's going to be a sinners quiz on the show next week just to make sure that y'all are here.
So let's make sure Candace is back next Friday.
And we're going to quiz.
Candice and I are going to quiz Matt and Michael about sinners.
There'll be five questions to make sure otherwise you Negro's black card will be.
rescinded.
Just letting you know.
All right.
There we go.
And y'all, Matt's shaking his head, but his microphone
is still on. He can talk.
But if he get froggy, it's going to get cut.
All right. Let me thank Candice.
Let me thank Michael,
and then let me thank the bison,
Matt, for being
on this show. All right.
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