#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Atlanta Mayor Blasts DNC For Abandoning Black Voters. Project 2025 Complete? Karmelo Anthony Hearing

Episode Date: August 21, 2026

8.20.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Karmelo Anthony Gets New Judge. NAACP Joins Nolan Wells Case. Angie Nixon Scores Upset Win The Memphis City Council approves a 12-month moratorium on new data center... permits and rezoning.  Tennessee State Representative Justin Pearson will explain what that really means.  Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens blasts the Democratic National Convention after the city loses its bid to host the 2028 convention.  In a letter to the city, he says this snub is an example of how the Democratic Party continues to abandon the South and Black voters.   A Missouri court is allowing a GOP-favored map to help them hold onto their slim majority in the House.  In less than two years, the twice-impeached, criminally convicted felon-in-chief, Donald "The Con" Trump has managed to fulfill every aspect of Project 2025.  Michael Harriott will be here to give us a "Project 2025 Performance Review." Chris Cuomo calls out Bill O'Reilly for saying he'd vote for Russian dictator Vladimir Putin before casting a ballot for Senator Jon Ossoff.  All over a comment the Georgia Senator made. A special appointed Texas judge is hearing testimony to decide if Karmelo Anthony deserves a new trial.  The third annual Back-to-School Community Day Hosted by Wanda Durant and the Durant Family Charitable Foundation is taking place this weekend.  She'll be here in the studio to talk about this weekend's event.   Black Star Network Partner: ChapterChapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:16:28 on the Blackside Network. Let's go. Massive public pressure has led to the Memphis City Council to declare a 12-month moratorium on data centers in that city. It passed its first reading before the Memphis City Council. On Tuesday, four council members brought the proposal before a Memphis City Council Committee. The committee voted to advance the measure to the full City Council, where it passed its first of three required readings. Tennessee representative and Canada for Tennessee's Ninth Congressional District, Justin Pearson, has been one of the leading voices against these data centers, specifically,
Starting point is 00:17:50 Elon Musk Center. He joins us right now. Representative Pearson, glad to have you here. Again, this was the work of grassroots people and residents who made it clear they did not want to see these data centers in Memphis. They wanted much more oversight. Your thoughts on the Memphis City Council Action. Absolutely. I mean, we've been fighting rolling, you know, for the last two years against Elon Musk and his illegal building of turbines and data centers in Memphis and now in North Mississippi. And there's even legal. actions with the NAACP, Young Gifton Green, and Southern Environmental Law Center against him because he has 69 gas turbines right in North Mississippi, right across the border from Memphis. But this has been a long and arduous fight. Memphis Mayor Paul Young has been one of the stalwart supporters
Starting point is 00:18:34 of Elon Musk and XAI, polluting and hurting and harming our community. So we faced a lot of tension to get to this point and to get to this time. The Chamber of Commerce, Ted Townsend, all have been against really my community that I represented in the State House and that I'm running to serve now in the United States
Starting point is 00:18:50 Congress as the nominee. But this has been difficult and challenging, and it's just good that the people power is still working and that we have some local elected leaders on the city council who are stepping up in this moment in time to pass this moratorium. We've got one reading down. We've got a couple more to go. But I think once we have this in place, we can start getting those more intentional regulations that protect public health, protect people in our environment, and protect the workforce and the jobs that we should be getting unionized jobs out of some of these projects. Well, and the thing I keep saying, I see a lot of these products, I keep seeing these people claim the economic benefits, but then when you start looking at the numbers, 30, 40, 50 jobs, and that just doesn't, you know, marry with the hundreds of millions of dollars in tax breaks. Absolutely. And I mean, the truth of the matter is they're lying about the economic development, because quite literally, these systems are designed to take away our jobs, right? They are computers. They use our drinking water.
Starting point is 00:19:50 to ultimately take away our jobs and the use cases overwhelmingly have been, how do you reduce blue collar and white collar jobs? And ultimately, you have two, three, like you say, 50 people working at these plants. There's some construction temporary jobs that are usually from out of state. And then you only need a couple of people to run these machines and these hyperscale data centers because they're running themselves as large language models. But that's one of the carrots that they use in our communities to say, oh, we're going to bring so many jobs and oh, we're going to give you millions of dollars in tax breaks,
Starting point is 00:20:18 which is what, you know, our mayors, Lee Harris and Paul Young, they were so happy about, we're going to get some tax money. But ultimately, what we find is they are spending hundreds of millions of dollars within days, right, a billion dollars a month, $33 million a day to operate these hyperscale data centers. So when they say, well, you're going to get $15 million, they make that in 12 hours. Like we continue to get chump change. And what do we sacrifice? Our lungs, our lives, emergency room visits, sickness, illness, and premature deaths,
Starting point is 00:20:47 all for the benefit of these billionaires. Okay, so it's one or three readings. Obviously, it's not locked in the stone, and so are you making it clear to your supporters? Y'all got to keep pressing, keep pressing, keep pressing, make sure it passes. Absolutely. We will be at every city council meeting now
Starting point is 00:21:04 until it passes with a minimum 50 folks speaking during public comment to make sure that our priorities are prioritized. For too long, we've been given the backseat, the Chamber of Commerce and folks like Bobby White and Ted Tate. They've been allowed to really navigate this discussion, even when we have research from Harvard professors, even when we have data from legal teams and the Southern Environmental Law Center,
Starting point is 00:21:28 we're being rebuffed by these mayors, we're being rebuffed by the Chamber of Commerce, and we're saying no more. And our community is showing up in full force every single time until we get this moratorium across the finish line, because we've been working with folks in Kentucky, working with folks in other parts of Tennessee and even Georgia to pass moratoriums. Now we need one where one of the largest data centers in the world exists, where Elon Musk is building. And he's not even notifying our community anymore when he's building one. We just found out via a news story on Twitter that he built another data center in White Haven,
Starting point is 00:22:00 in a community that I'm running to represent in Congress. We can't keep operating this way. And we can't keep being exploited and being allowed to be exploited by the people who call themselves our elected officials. Well, one of the things that is very interesting when you look at this issue, whether it's black folks in cities, white folks who rule America, you get a lot of people, Republicans and Democrats, who are not happy with
Starting point is 00:22:24 the data centers, primarily because you've elected officials who are not properly explaining to people what the impact is going to be. You're not even seeing any real environmental impact studies being done to really understand it.
Starting point is 00:22:41 No, and that's part of it. The lack of transparency leads to a lack of accountability, and the less information we're given, the more exploitation we receive. And too many of these elected officials are okay with that, whether it be Mayor Young and Harris or the mayor in South Haven, Mississippi, Mayor Musselwhite, they are okay sacrificing our community's lives for the benefit of these private multi-billion dollar companies. And this is an issue that I am unfortunate to be one of the folks leading, but I'm seeing a lot of Republicans, a lot of conservatives, who we disagree on a whole
Starting point is 00:23:12 lot of other issues, but on this, we are aligned because we don't like the lack of accountability, we don't like the lack of transparency, and we don't like the exploitation that is happening in our communities. And so you're seeing, you know, sort of an odd group of people who are organizing together, the founder of the Tea Party, is also against data centers being built in our communities. Because we know this is about benefiting and propping up the billionaire class. It's about taking the jobs away from everybody else, but to use our resources to get tax incentives or to destroy our environment without any repercussions from the Environmental Protection Agency, the health department, or anybody else. That's what we're seeing. And so in Lawrenceburg, Tennessee,
Starting point is 00:23:49 they were trying to build a data center. And they called us in and we supported and helped them in their fight, just like we're doing it in Memphis. And so the coalitions that's building, I think, are really powerful. And I think as we go into this midterm is one of the reasons that I feel confident about our race. Because we're seeing Republicans who are joining our campaign, who are saying, well, you're fighting data centers. You're against that. You don't want them to take our land. You don't want them to take our water, our aquifers, and destroy our environment and our way of life. And that's what we need right now. This right here is, this is cleanview.co, and they're tracking these data centers.
Starting point is 00:24:21 So go to my iPad, Anthony. And it shows that there are 3,355 data centers in the United States. Operating is 1,287, planned data centers, 2,020. And then when you go down here and you see this particular map, and then you get an understanding of how significant this is, and you see where, I mean, a significant number of them are East Coast, Southeast, and the Southwest as well. You see they're spreading.
Starting point is 00:24:51 What jumps out at me is, okay, is this overcapacity? Do we actually need the number of massive data centers? I haven't really seen a real significant service. or study done on, obviously, all the people are racing for AI, but do we need this many data centers? No, we don't need this many data centers. They're racing against each other, and literally it's the billionaires versus the billionaires
Starting point is 00:25:23 as Peter Till versus Kevin O'Leary versus Elon Musk. And ultimately, what we are saying is communities being sacrificed. And another thing that that map, as you zoom in, will show you is that 67% of the data centers are being planned, not in urban areas, not even in suburban areas, but in rural America. And so they're going to places that have not before experienced the industrialization and the effects of what people in my community in southwest Memphis and Boxtown and Westwood have experienced. But this is all about who can be first towards some end that none of us truly know.
Starting point is 00:25:53 They're having these IPOs turning people like Elon Musk into trillionaires. But there's no end in sight. But what we do know is eventually this bubble is going to burst. And when that happens, we're going to have a lot of stranded assets, a lot of communities that will potentially rely. on the $10 million or $20 million in economic benefit will never see it. And the billionaires who are profiting off of this are going to ultimately be bailed out by the government because, look, a billionaire is leading the government currently. And so we don't need this.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And that's why you're seeing a lot of ads trying to convince you to use certain apps because it's not being adopted at scale. And the only people that are really using it are corporations that are trying to replace their employees jobs. And I know people who are in banks, for instance, who are training AI that will ultimately replace their jobs over the next two to three years. That's what we're up against right now. All right, Representative Justin Pearson,
Starting point is 00:26:44 we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. I appreciate you too. Keep the line. All right. I want to bring my pound. Dr. Greggardt, Department of African-American Studies at Howard University, joining us from D.C., George Cheney, founder of George Strategies out of D.C. as well,
Starting point is 00:26:55 Dr. Larry J. Walker, University, Professor of Former Senior Congressional Staffer from Orlando. Glad to have both of y'all here. Greg, we're joining us a little bit later. Later, I'll start with you. Again, when we talk about these, this is a potent political issue. issue. And it really, if you're a politician, this is a landmine, you better be real careful with how you
Starting point is 00:27:18 answer these questions because a lot of people have questions and they want significant oversight over these data centers. Absolutely, Roland. It's interesting we're talking about data centers because obviously we just had a primary Democratic Republican primary in Florida on Tuesday. And I highlighted that I believe this is going to be one of the issues as relates to this governor's is who supports and who doesn't support data centers. I think the other issue is that as relates to data centers and issues related in environmental racism, is this kind of the core of a new civil rights movement in terms of how
Starting point is 00:27:52 you can bring together. You heard the representative talk about that. How in data centers impact people of various racist ethnicities, are urban, rural, suburban. I mean, you see them all over the country. And as you highlight in that graph, they're, they're sprouting all over the place. And so we're really going to have to have a conversation as Americans and particularly as voters. Who are the politicians that are supporting what's in the best long-term interests of their constituents and not focused on the PAC money or individual money that's coming to their campaigns?
Starting point is 00:28:25 And so I think it's going to be really interesting as we move closer to November. And we've seen the polling as it relates to data centers the last couple months has shifted dramatically in terms of people not supporting them. The pressure to politicians who want to get a lot. elected, how do they, like you said, how do they respond to these questions? And if they don't respond in a way that aligns with the morals and values of their constituents, do they pay a price from that? Because if that happens, it will dramatically shift in the way in which they approach this issue. Joy? No, I agree completely. I think there are three issues here. One is that question,
Starting point is 00:28:59 right? How do you thread the needle here? How do we support innovation? Because that's important. but at the same time protecting jobs. I don't know that this is so much just a racial justice issue. It's almost humanity against the machine, right? And against billionaires who will, you know, make money at any cost. And I think what Justin was saying is so important. The second issue is that this is going to be a bubble that ultimately bursts. And where will people be and where will communities be when it finally bursts?
Starting point is 00:29:31 And they are reliant on the centers, right? I think the third piece is if you are going to have a center, there are places where, you know, perhaps there is a number of data centers that is appropriate. That is a place for government. That is an area where government needs to be stepping in and evaluating what is the number of data centers we need. How do we balance that against our desire to use AI and our need to not just have this be a race against billionaires against billionaires, but ultimately what's good for? for humanity. Once you determine what that is, I think the question is after we have these moratoriums, what do we do next? How do we determine what number of data centers we have? What communities should get in exchange for a data center, et cetera? How do you evaluate your property if you ultimately
Starting point is 00:30:25 choose to sell? Those are the kinds of advice and practical things that people are going to need because the moratorium, I think we will get it, but it's just to start what comes next. Listen, I think what you have to do is you literally have to explain to people what is going to be the impact. Greg is with us right now. And, Greg, unfortunately, folks are not doing that. They're not properly, okay, what's going to be the water usage?
Starting point is 00:30:50 Are you actually going to see an increase in utility rates? What is going to be the noise? We've had complaints with people who are saying that the noise is so deafening, is impacting the health of people. Those are all the things that have to be answered when you talk about these data centers. Yeah, absolutely, Roland, and listening to coming in and hearing you, Joy, yeah, I echo that the bubble is going to burst,
Starting point is 00:31:16 clearly with the grifties you have in the federal government now and the unrestrained capitalists trying to basically gamble on a global scale when it comes to AI and all the energy. What you're seeing is a rebellion. It's already begun to boil over. It transcends race. It transcends class. It transcends region.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And as a result, these very issues that you've just raised and you would be discussing are coming in a way that will unite people in ways we've never seen before, I think. Whether it be Utah, whether it be Memphis or Nashville, whether it be here in the D.C. area, people becoming aware of these issues are not only pushing back, they're communicating with each other. And in some ways, it may actually create the kind of ground swell and groundwork for a type of, for lack of a better term, national unity that we haven't seen before. And I think data centers is going to play a very big role in pushing back against some of the other things that we don't like. But people don't want it in their backyard. The billionaires don't care. Donald Trump gets his cut. He doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:32:22 But there are more people than the billionaires and the people in the government. And I think this may be just the kind of thing that triggers a pushback on a much larger scale. Well, we certainly will see. Got to go to a break. We come back. We're going to talk about a lot of stuff, including Atlanta mayor, Andre Dickens, going off on Democratic National Committee. Plus, we'll talk about the Camilla Anthony effort to get his or his efforts effort to get him a new trial. You're watching Roland on Fulton on the Black Star Network.
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Starting point is 00:39:32 Roland Park, unfiltered. Folks, for the second day, you have efforts by the attorneys for Camillo Anthony to try to get him in the trial yesterday. The judge agreed to recuse the original judge in the case. Now, what's happening now,
Starting point is 00:39:57 according to a white prosecutor in the Camillo Anthony, trial, fear led both parties to the, quote, gentlemen's deal that kept a lot of racist and violent evidence from the jury. Lead prosecutor, Bill Worski, said he and Camelo's lead attorney at the trial, Tony Shook, agreed to avoid putting fuel on the fire after both sides, including the judge who reduced the defendant's bail, received threats. That handshake deal and would limit the scope of the trial to the minutes surrounding the April 2nd, 2025 stabbing.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Well, during today's motion hearing for a new trial, Worski said he was being called woke for not seeking the death penalty. Carmelo's lead appeals attorney, Russell Wilson, took issue with his client not having any public hearings after posting bond until a jury selection. Werski said both sides took necessary steps
Starting point is 00:40:52 to protect the parties involved because of the escalating tension surrounding the case. Prosecutors believe not having public hearings saved Carmelo's life. Cremello's original defense testified about the Medcaf's racist background. Based upon what they uncovered, Austin and his brother Hunter were once caught spray painting graffiti, including KKK Kill All Blacks and Hal Hitler, along with the N-word. the brothers were sentenced to 12 months of juvenile probation. As I said on Wednesday, Texas District Judge John Rocha Jr., who presided over the Carmelo Anthony trial, was removed from all post-conviction proceedings.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Retired Kaufman County District Judge, Michael Cheney, will decide if Carmelo would get a new trial. Greg, what the hell? I mean, first of all, if you are the defense attorney for Camel Anthony, And you have literal evidence of two white teens expressing racial animosity, racist language. And you strike a deal with the prosecutors because of escalating threats? That's why you have cops. We've seen trials where juries were sequestered.
Starting point is 00:42:17 We've seen trials where U.S. Marshals, State Troopers, police, walked attorneys back and forth to say, oh, yeah, by leaving those things out that saved Carmelo's life. He got 35 years in prison. Yeah, that's a lie. I mean, I don't know, Joy, you'd have to answer this,
Starting point is 00:42:39 but, you know, is this enough for an appeal even in terms of effective counsel? I mean, this guy's colluding with the prosecution. But I understand why they would keep it out because Carmel and Anthony didn't have any attorneys on his side. this is a good old boy network. I mean, at best, it's paternalism.
Starting point is 00:42:57 You think you know what's best for the Negro kid. At worst, it is probably what it is, which is straight racism. Inflame it. Burn the whole damn thing down. That ain't the point. You're supposed to be an effective counsel seems to me is a zealous, zealous advocacy for your client. And in this case, this sounds like the same damn racism that was all around Carmelo Anthony. But, you know, at the end of the day, these white boys would they spray paint in their
Starting point is 00:43:22 little clubs and all these people running around, protect white Americans, this little protest group. You know, guess what? Have at it. Because at some point, as Bob Marley said, one day the bucket's going to go to the well and one day the bottom will drop out. So, you know, he gets a new trial.
Starting point is 00:43:38 All this stuff comes in. What one of the attorneys say, he said he'd never seen this amount of stuff that wasn't included. Put it all in, lay it all out, and then let's go back to court. But I think maybe it won't be too difficult to get to that stage.
Starting point is 00:43:52 It was just stunning to me, Larry, when I saw the reporting on this. And all it confirmed to me was that this defense attorney for Camel Anthony was damn near acting like the prosecutor. I mean, your job is to represent your client. to the fullest. And I knew something was strange when Carmelo Anthony was found guilty. And then on the same day, they had the sentencing. He called one witness, Carmelo's mama. He didn't call a pastor.
Starting point is 00:44:43 He didn't call a football coach. He didn't call a teacher. He didn't call a neighbor. He didn't call classmates. that boy got convicted and sentenced on the same day in a six-hour span. This was absolutely ineffective counsel. Yeah, it absolutely is, Roland. You know, I know when Americans hear black people talk about judicial system and how it works,
Starting point is 00:45:13 and they must think we're conspiracy theorists, but we have examples like this, and we have the lived experiences of generations of our forefathers and for mothers who told us about these situations in which black people were either railroaded, then have competent counsel. We know this happens disproportionately when it comes to the black community. And once again, this is another example of why black people, whether we use social media platforms, et cetera, we have to stay on the neck of the judicial system. Because if we do not, then cases like this will continue to happen and you will find young brothers and sisters who spend
Starting point is 00:45:51 years, decades behind jail, where in some cases, they may have been found non-guilty. And in some cases, evidence has been fabricated or left out in this situation. But once again, Roland, the idea that this defense attorney is essentially colluding with his counterpart, worried about inflaming the local community. Listen, when you are black, you are black in America, you are constantly under attack, and we are constantly dealing with years of systemic racism that we have to navigate. Once again, it's another example. So he's doing him a favor, and he spends decades behind bars.
Starting point is 00:46:29 It doesn't make any sense. And we know that justice isn't blind when it comes to black folks, and it's just another example. This is a – I'm looking at this story, Joy, and I am looking at here. Hold on one second. MSN.com just broke this thing down. So this is what it said. There are several documented instances of Austin Medcaf using racial slurs in school.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And in 2023, Austin Medcaf was accused of bullying a black student in class. In 2018, according to court documents, while still in elementary school, Austin Medcaf and his brother were accused of bullying and assaulting a female, which led to his arrest. During an argument in 2024 with another female student,
Starting point is 00:47:21 Austin Medcaf allegedly knocked her to the ground and punched her in the stomach, report state, and he was also kicked out of a football game and later text someone, I was about to beat the expletive out of those kids. At a previous track meet, when another student alerted Austin Medcaf as someone not on their team, quote,
Starting point is 00:47:41 behind our bench was talking wild, Austin Medcaf reportedly replied, quote, kill the MF, court document states. How in the hell, Joy, does your attorney not bring that out in trial? And you say, oh, no, I'm going to cut a deal with the prosecutor who I used to work with. Yeah, we're not going to bring that up because, oh, this is going to inflame people. What to hell? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Look, prosecutors and defense attorneys make deals, but it ought to be in favor of the defendant. Not in favor of the prosecution. the defense attorney is to zealously represent his or her client. I don't know the specifics of this defense attorney, so I'm not going to completely indict them. I'm wondering what else is going to. But what it looks like, let me finish, what it looks like is that this young man did not get the zealous defense
Starting point is 00:48:36 that any one of us would want. Someone who's not looking to what the community needs, frankly, that's irrelevant. What the community needs is something that the prosecutor may think of, right? Because they have a bigger mandate, but the defense attorney's only mandate is his or her client. And short of breaking the law and violating the rules of ethics, he or she is supposed to zealously defend that client and do everything to create context and understanding around what might happen and to try to make the prosecution prove its case.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And so anything that they can do to undermine the prosecution's case is within their charge, and it's clear he didn't get that. I will dampen though expectations. It is very hard to get a retrial. It is very hard to get ineffective assistance of counsel. It's hard for that to carry the day. So I don't hold much hope on that. But I do hope that the family and ultimately, Carmel and Anthony,
Starting point is 00:49:40 can be heard and speak and have greater understanding about what happened here, so that, you know, perhaps that kind of public pressure will lead to some type of retrial or reconsideration. I mean, look at this here. The article said of the 2020-24 school year, Austin Metcalf received an in-school suspension twice. School disciplinary records from April 2020 to May, 2004, the real that he reportedly called a teacher the B word or used profanning that he told a school official that, quote, but he couldn't control it and wasn't aware that was coming out of his mouth.
Starting point is 00:50:11 In 2024, on at least five occasions, record show, Austin Medcaf was saw a counselor regarding his anger and rage during a football game. In 2021, he was banned from attending basketball games for a season after yelling profanity at a player. Court documents state that Austin Medcaf was also suspended after he and another student were talking about bringing a gun to school the following day. Now, prosecutors say they have a 75-page character dossier on Anthony, and they claim that he texts someone on the day, of the stabbing saying, low-key, he was on the verge
Starting point is 00:50:41 and that his girlfriend with the school officials to complain that he had been stalking her because she broke up with him. Okay, here's my whole deal. It doesn't matter. I don't care if the prosecution has that. Your job as a defense attorney
Starting point is 00:50:55 is to defend your client. So what happened? So y'all cut a deal and Carmelo's report wasn't entered, Med-Cath report wasn't entered, Carmelo was still found guilty and his sentence of 35 years. is in prison.
Starting point is 00:51:10 No, this is, to me, this is shoddy legal work and I never, in watching this whole thing, I never understood, Greg,
Starting point is 00:51:18 what the hell his attorney was doing. And it was just mind-boggling to me. And he should have been fired. And there's no way in hell. He should, you know, the family was smart not to have him to handle this appeal because that was just,
Starting point is 00:51:34 just awful work. Well, or great work. If you're down, white nationalist. I'm willing to speculate. I mean, black in America, this is what we know. It sounds like everybody in there was against him, that funky-ass judge, certainly the prosecutor, and the quote, defense attorney. How many times have we seen this type of collusion? We've often seen it. And yeah, Joe, you're right. I mean, it's, you know, it's hard to,
Starting point is 00:52:01 it's hard to get a case overturned, obviously, on those grounds. But, I mean, I think about just the shower of death penalty cases, where ineffective counsel defense attorneys falling asleep at the damn table or neglecting to introduce things or the challenge on cross. And in this case, it's worse than all of those situations. You got somebody who basically working for the prosecutor's office, it almost sounds like. And let's say that they got a 75-page dossier on Carmelo Anthony. Great. Show us every word of every sentence of every paragraph of every page and then stack it up against a nasty white boy who's punching women, getting in school suspension, which if this runs true with whatever else has been said about him, probably deserved worse, probably somebody
Starting point is 00:52:46 saved his ass while he was in school, and somebody who was spoiling for a fight, and kind of got it. Put it all out there. And then from there, you know, you take your chances with a jury, but I wonder if, you know, like you said, if there is no overturning, if there is no new trial, just as evidence alone should put people on notice, you know, and, you know, we'll have to see how it plays out. But it's really not shocking, as Larry said, when you look at the history of how we have been treated in this country when it comes to trying to fight for our lives at a defense table with attorneys who are buddy, buddy with the other side
Starting point is 00:53:22 or who share the other side's racism. Indeed, indeed. All right, folks, going to a break. We come back. Who is Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens hot with the Democratic National Committee? will explain to you why he is so upset that Atlanta's been left out of the finalist hosts a 2008 Democratic National Convention. You're watching Rolla Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network, support the work that we do,
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Starting point is 01:07:23 This is the Black Star Network. Whoa! Andre Dickens did not bench words, y'all, towards the Democratic Party leaders after they took Atlanta out of the running to host the 2028. Democratic National Convention. Today, the DNC, chair, Ken Martin, announced that the party re-narled its list of three finalists, Boston, Denver, and Philadelphia. Earlier this year,
Starting point is 01:08:25 party officials visited Atlanta and the other four cities in the running, considering logistical and fundraising capacity, among other factors. The party didn't specify while the two cities were eliminated. DNC Chair Ken Martin said, quote, the 2008 Democratic National Convention would be an inspiring celebration of our party's three years. future nominee and a critical step on Democrats' path toward retaking the White House. Boston, Denver, and Philadelphia all presented incredibly strong bids to host the convention and will look forward to continuing to work with them as the DNC makes a final selection in the coming months.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Atlanta and Chicago, which hosts the convention in 2024, were the other cities being considered. Now, Dickens was not happy with the decision, and this was his statement. To Atlanta, the South and all Democrats, the DNC continues to make the wrong choices. This decision could not have been based on Atlanta's ability to host major events. Not on the heels of being ranked the best city to host the World Cup, not when State Farm Arena is one of the busiest and most successful arenas in the country. For the DNC to not even include Atlanta in the short list means that the DNC does not consider Atlanta or Georgia relevant to the past, present, or future the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 01:09:39 It seems that Ken Martin doesn't even believe himself when he said that the road to the White House runs through the South. Yet again, the DNC and Chairman Ken Martin have shown that they are unwilling to do the bare minimum to support the base of the party. Atlanta is the crown jewel of the southeast, the black economic engine of the country, and the cradle of the civil rights movement. They are afraid to lead their comfort zone and blind to the fact that the South is the answer. They are abandoning Atlanta, abandoning the South, and once again, a badgered to the South. abandoning black voters. Atlanta has not hosted the convention in nearly 40 years. One party has chosen the South to host their convention, and the other has chosen the same region over and over again. This isn't by accident. It's an intentional choice. At a time when
Starting point is 01:10:29 Trump and the Supreme Court are minimizing black electoral power, we need a party that would come to Atlanta and galvanize the southeast for 2008 and beyond. Real leaders produced for the present and the future. With so much evidence to the contrary, this was an opportunity for Ken Martin and the DNC leadership to show they have a thoughtful plan for the party and know how to win the White House in 2008. But instead, they are running scared
Starting point is 01:10:55 and retreat to their safe spaces. I'm ready for Democratic leadership that understands what every Democratic voter already knows that this is a moment that demands we run towards battles and into the fight. sincerely Mayor Andre Dickens, City of Atlanta. Last time the party held
Starting point is 01:11:14 the convention in Atlanta was in 1988 when former Massachusetts Governor Michael O'Coccus was chosen as the candidate. Now, if you start looking at what happened, now remember, in 2008, first of all, let's go 2004,
Starting point is 01:11:30 then Senator Barack Obama gave that keynote speech. It was in Boston. In 2008, they were in Denver. 2012, they were in Charlotte. And so when you look at, so you look at the numbers here, and I can't, I'm trying to think back.
Starting point is 01:11:49 If I think back, when was the last time the Democrats were in Philadelphia? Republicans were in Philadelphia in 1992. Democrats were in, no, in 2000. 2000, Republicans were in Philadelphia. Democrats were in Los Angeles. The reason I know that my opinion erupted on the night of Al Gore gave his speech. So I kind of know that real well. Spitting five days in the hospital.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Don't want to even think about that. But I'm trying to remember, let me see, DNC Convention in, trying to think, DNC Convention in Philly. Was it, no, when Bill Clinton got re-nominated, was that New York City? Let's see here. Let me see y'all. Let's see here.
Starting point is 01:12:42 I'm trying to think. Wasn't the last time it was Philadelphia? 82. No, those were midterm conferences. Midterm conferences. So, all right, I'm going to try to pull it to see the last time Philadelphia hosted the political convention.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Hmm. No, I'm sorry. Oh, it was 2016. It was 2016. I didn't, I totally forgot. It was in 2016. Yeah, okay, now I remember. because the traffic was insane
Starting point is 01:13:14 and we had to carry our damn gear. Okay, so 2016. Let's get right to it. Joy, Dickens is a little hot. Do you agree or disagree with his assessment? I agree completely, and I was screaming in your ear. 2016! It was Hillary Clinton when we were in Philadelphia,
Starting point is 01:13:39 and we have clearly over-indexed for the Northeast. Why? Why we would go back? I don't understand. He is absolutely right that we ought to be looking at the south cities like Atlanta. And, you know, perhaps Denver, but not Boston, not Philadelphia. And I love those cities. But those are not the places where, you know, we are going to win this next election. It is in the South. And so it just is, you know, I, I want to think the best of our brothers and sisters at the DNC, but they just continue to miss the mark. I don't, well, I do know who's advising them. I don't know if they should still be doing to go. This seems like yet another mistake. But, you know, at the end of the day, it'll blow over. He's a mayor. Of course, he's going to
Starting point is 01:14:35 fight for his city. But the fact that this. is just happening on the heel of so many critiques of the DNC. It feels like they're just simply out of touch. And to see Boston and Philadelphia, there again, just feels like a misstep. Another one. So, Larry, I'm going to start with 1900. I'm going to start with 1900, Larry.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Kansas City, Midwest, St. Louis, Denver, Baltimore, St. Louis, San Francisco. New York, Houston in 1928, Chicago, Philadelphia, Chicago in 40 and 44, Philadelphia, Chicago, L.A., Atlantic City, Chicago, Miami Beach, New York City, New York City in 76 and 80. San Francisco, Atlanta, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Boston, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver, Charlotte, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Chicago. So in 124 years, the Democrats have only held their political convention in the South twice. 1928 in Houston, 1988 in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:16:04 So I think Joy highlights some good points in the mayor's letter. I think he had, Georgia's important. We know that. And the South is important. He also connected to make the historical connection to Atlanta and Georgia as it relates to the civil rights movement. And we all know that it's accurate. And so Roland, it's interesting because as you played it out of the last century
Starting point is 01:16:26 and you realize that the South hasn't hosted very much, that is concerning, particularly, I guess I said, considering the historical role that the South played in the Civil Rights Movement, and continues to play. And obviously, Atlanta, they talk about a black economic engine. We all acknowledge the critical importance in terms of Atlanta and also small and meat-sized black businesses. Also want to note that Philadelphia is a city that, obviously,
Starting point is 01:16:56 a lot of history has done a really great job at hosting an event. Besides the traffic issue, you talked about rolling. So there is that. But I do think that about the DNC and all the criticism that they've done. dealt with over the last couple months and really like last few years in terms of being out of step with what's necessary is a fair and accurate critique and when like I said when you read back all the conventions I was shocked that it hadn't you know you hadn't had more in the in the South so but the other question is rolling and everyone else in the panels we don't
Starting point is 01:17:30 know what the proposals look like that's the other challenge the what are the details in the minutia that no one else outside the DNC knows about certainly that I wouldn't know about in terms of how the proposals, what they look like, or what were some of the incentives and some of the other things they outlined. So I think that's another issue none of us know about and won't know, have that information. So, Greg, I'm going to read Republican cities, starting in 1900. Philadelphia, Chicago, in 1912 and 1916, Chicago, 1920, Cleveland, Kansas City, Chicago and 32.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Cleveland. Philadelphia, Chicago, 1954. Philadelphia, Chicago, 1952. Daily City, California, Chicago, 1960. Daily City, California. Miami Beach in 72. Back-to-back year, 68, 72. Kansas City, Detroit, Dallas in 84, New Orleans in 88.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Houston in 92. Three southern cities back-to-back-to-back. San Diego, 96, Philadelphia, New York City, St. Paul, Minnesota, Tampa, Florida, 4th Southern, Cleveland in 2016, Charlotte in 2020, Milwaukee, Houston is their choice for 2008. So, five southern conventions for the Republicans, two, four Democrats. Well, let's see what happened. Those southern cities came out after 1964. Barry Goldwater, of course, 64. When the Republicans began their inexorable shift to become the White National Party,
Starting point is 01:19:17 these racists understand that the key to their continued survival is the South, and their strategy has been successful, and it's about to die. The Democratic Party is the soft white nationalists. They are not our friends. We should have no field to them. they are simply, as you often say, a delivery system. I'd like to go back 60 years to 1964. When Mrs. Hamer and Ella Baker and Bob Moses and Lawrence Giot
Starting point is 01:19:45 and that whole crew created the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party, they had no love for the Democratic Party. In fact, they saw the Democratic Party is the Party of betrayal. They didn't expect anything from the Republicans, but what they saw was a systemic betrayal. They viewed the Democratic Party as deeply complicit in white supremacy, because the Dixie Crats were still hanging around. What they saw was attention.
Starting point is 01:20:05 They did not pursue Atlantic City, North East, in 1964, Ms. Hamer and them, because they were making a moral argument with the Democratic Party. They were making a tactical, pragmatic argument. This was the best of the two parties to be the delivery system for them to seize party in a two-party system. The compromise in 1964, after the party wouldn't receipt them, of course, Lyndon Johnson went with the party against the Mississippi Freedom Democrats, really marked a turning point, as we know, in the civil rights movement, you see the emergence of the black power. movement in the wake of 1964 convention in Atlantic City. I went through all that for this reason. We owe nothing to the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Ken Martin is a failed chair. He's crumbling as we speak. He's raised about at this point, I think, maybe, I think 15 to 35 cents. And the party is no longer, is increasingly out of the control of the smart-ass white boys and the corporate Democrats. I mean, you look at somebody like soon-to-be Senator Nixon, who joined the Democratic Socialist of America. yesterday, well, June.
Starting point is 01:21:07 But the point is, people are now awakening to the idea that we owe nothing to the Democratic Party, but we will use you as the delivery system. They have put their mass media machine into effect. They've been arguing. You've got even American Negroes, whether it be Jim Clyburn or Hakeem Jeffries, who showed his ass on Meet the Press this past weekend by saying he's not for Medicare for all. Hey, man, shut up. But guess what?
Starting point is 01:21:30 Or don't shut up. It really doesn't matter. The train has left the station. Finally, it doesn't have to be in Atlanta. Remember what happened the last time they were in Atlanta? That's when Jesse Jackson had a plurality of the delegates, and we was all coming down there thinking we're about to have a whole-ass fight. But the specter of Bill Clinton and them, even though Ron Brown ended up running the party,
Starting point is 01:21:47 in 1988, the specter of the corporate Dems finally subsumed what was an insurgent movement that had begun in 1964, continued through two Jackson campaigns, and we was about to have a battle for the Democratic Party in 1988 before Jackson released his delegates to do caucus, gave him Ron Brown, and through Ron Brown's genius and all the tactical advantages led four years later to the election of Bill Clinton. Well, guess what? The demographics have continued to change, have continued to shift, and I think every day more and more people are awakening to the idea, we ain't listening to no Ken Martin, we
Starting point is 01:22:22 ain't listen to no Jamie Harrison, we ain't listen to no smart-ass white boys, we're going to take over your funky party and use it as a battering ram to get what we want, and that would be exactly leading the spirit of the Mississippi Freedom Democrats and Fannie DuMaine. So the DNC sent us some backup materials stating that the, what they looked at was, was the importance of forging a strong partnership between the DNC and the whole city, including its community, political and business leaders, operational and logistical capacity for convention,
Starting point is 01:22:53 including arena-sized, hotels, fundraising capability, a commitment to selecting a city that shares democratic values, the value of utilizing new and innovative approaches in response to the challenges and opportunities that arise from hosting an event of this magnitude. Now, they also then went on to tout all the things that they have done to support the South, including historic, as they say, historical, historic financial, and organizing investments across the South, providing over more than a million dollars monthly to all 50 state parties, investing in an extra $5 grand a month in a Republican-controlled states to help build party
Starting point is 01:23:29 infrastructure and ensure Democrats are able to compete everywhere, including in the United States, and on and on and on. So that's sort of what they laid out there. So, but again, Barry Dickens, we may have them on tomorrow's show or Monday show. So can't wait. Here with that cap I've got to say
Starting point is 01:23:45 about this, because again, he was, that letter was blistering. So, all right, y'all, we're going to go to a break. We come back. We told you all there's been a war on black America. We told you all that Donald Trump, Magin, Republic is wanting to defund black America.
Starting point is 01:24:05 Well, Michael Harriet, uh, found of the contraband camp, has broken down the top 10 ways that they've targeted black folks. He says they already achieved all 10. It's next right here, Roland Martin unfiltered on the Black Star Network. All right, folks, let me get personal for a second. My mom had questions about her Medicare, so she called Chapter a Medicare. A Medicare advisory company and she texts me right after saying it's a great benefit. It was easy. A real person walked her through the whole thing and now she understands better what's going on. It was also not just her. A woman in Yonkers wrote in saying the process was so simple, the enrollment was easy and she was so glad she called. Then there's Maryland, 90 years old, in
Starting point is 01:24:52 Florida, living on Social Security. Her premium climbed every single year north of $400 a month for coverage she could barely afford anymore. So what does she do? called Chapter. They found her the same top-tier coverage for hundreds of dollars less, 90 years old, and finally, somebody in her corner. I hear stories like that again and again from our community. The Medicare system was not built to work for you. Too much fine print, too many plans. Yet Chapter's advisors are independent and honest, the only Medicare advisors that compare every plan nationwide. They're focused on one thing, what actually works for you. If you're already in the right plan, they'll tell you. No game.
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Starting point is 01:25:58 What they think we want, what they think we need. Hell, they even tried to tell us why and how we voted. I never had a conversation with us. Never asked us how we felt. It brings us joy. What makes us angry? What makes us scared? How do we live?
Starting point is 01:26:10 That's what this show is about. No translation, because we don't need anybody speaking for us. We can speak for ourselves. This will be a show where we bring brothers on that you don't see on every other talk show. Nope. Brothers that are doing work in local communities with black men for black communities. We're going to hear each other and try to understand so perhaps we can move forward together. No translation.
Starting point is 01:26:31 because we don't need anybody speaking for us. What we need is each other. No translation. Right here on the Black Star Network. Check it out. Hi, I'm Swain Cash, basketball Hall of Famer, and you're watching Black Star Network. Judge cleared a significant hurdle for Republicans
Starting point is 01:27:19 by ruling in favor of the redrawn congressional maps ahead of November midterms. On Wednesday, Judge Daniel Green rejected a statewide referendum that will place the proposed districts before voters. Judge Green's ruling upholds the Republicans. Republican Secretary of State, Danny Hoskins' defense, and Missouri's Constitution does not permit a referendum on congressional redistricting. The GOP back map wipes out one of two blue districts and splits Kansas City between nearby Republican-held districts. That seat held by long-term Congressman
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Starting point is 01:28:35 and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo and every week we're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table.
Starting point is 01:28:57 It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling character, and that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:29:20 See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Everyone has a good time and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip the script? What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show.
Starting point is 01:30:10 I would never expect. I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed?
Starting point is 01:30:34 Nope. It's fragile masculinity. Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's just a state. Everyone's so dumb. And fake.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally, He loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotbby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. If you know me, you know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy.
Starting point is 01:31:21 So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space. You're hired to fill the space with you. You have something in your guts. You go with it. And Sean Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:31:56 He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I have also pushes the remainder of the fifth congressional district into Republican-dominated areas. Now, folks, for years, we warn all of you about Project 2025. We've seen every goal of Project 2025 come to pass. And from eliminating voting rights, abolishing abortion, We're in diversity and inclusion programs all in less than two years.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Michael Harriet, founder of the Contraband Camp, dropped this article, Project 2025 Performance Review. He lays out how Trump achieved every goal of the white agenda. He joins us right now. All right, Michael, break you down. You said, mission accomplished. Yeah, so two years ago, I took up and bark upon reading all 922 pages, of Trump's, well, the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025. And I think what people don't understand is like Trump had a similar,
Starting point is 01:33:11 a complimentary plan, if you will, call Agenda 47. So agenda 47 was essentially the sales document for Trump's white agenda. And Project 2025 was like a detailed blueprint. Well, I went through and laid out the 10 worst policy, and how they would affect black people. And I thought about looking back at it because there was a little item in the newspaper Monday that very few people talked about, right?
Starting point is 01:33:41 While everybody's talking about Stephen A. Smith, the Trump administration had been telling EEOC judges, basically, hey, don't rule against any discrimination cases, don't even make a decision until we lay out our new policy. Well, his new policy debuted on money And basically, he's banned all federal agencies from even counting the demographics. So every agency in the federal government has a EEOC office at a civil rights office. So they catalog like racial discrimination, and they take statistics.
Starting point is 01:34:20 That's how we know that teachers were punishing black students disproportionately to white students harsher. And so Trump's solution was, hey, what do we just stop counting the races and stop counting the racism? That just solve everything because you can't fight racism if you don't have the statistics to do it. And that was his plan all along. And people, the few people who talked about it were saying, you know, how shameful it was. But this was part of what he laid out in Project 2025. We were talking about the more hyperbolic stuff, but what that plan was was a way to get the federal government,
Starting point is 01:35:04 the interworkings of the federal government. Remember, the last time when he talked about draining the swap, he wanted to fire all of these people. Well, it's really hard to fire government unionized employees. So what he focused on was two offices, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and the Office of Personnel Management. Basically, together they're like the HR department of the federal government.
Starting point is 01:35:29 And what he said, well, what if we don't just fire people? What if we just install appointees that don't have to be confirmed into the HR department? And that's how he's been clearing house. And that's one part of Project 2025. And it was the final piece, the final part of the puzzle, until of everything that he wanted to do to whitewash this government and make America white again.
Starting point is 01:35:56 When you talk about whitewash the government, essentially he did the exact same thing that Woodrow Wilson did when he came in and said, oh, we're getting rid of the federal... He brought segregation back to the federal workforce. But not only that, Trump did this in his first term. People forget the reason... When it came to the contracting,
Starting point is 01:36:15 they stopped collecting data. So their whole deal was, yeah, we're not going to collect racial data, so you didn't know how bad it was. Well, we've had other folks that track it. Let's just say the money. Much of these simple Simon Negroes out here who claim Trump was going to put more money in their pockets. Well, in the last year of Biden-Harris, black-owned businesses got $10 billion in federal contracts. Now, that was only 2%.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Okay, not a great number, but the 10 billion was a record number. In not even the full two years of Trump, that number is down to 1.2%. You're talking about a loss of nearly $5 billion in federal contracts. I know numerous black businesses that have been wiped out, destroyed because of what's happening in federal contracting. Right. And that's part of Project's 2025 plan. So if you look at project, if you look at the 27 budget that Trump submitted to Congress,
Starting point is 01:37:13 right? one of the lines is they wanted to eliminate the minority business development association. So many of those businesses that you were talking about got the money through the minority business development association. And Trump wants to eliminate this. Again, people are outraged. He told us he was going to do it. It's not like he slipped something in our drink and then we woke up and all of this stuff
Starting point is 01:37:37 that we have achieved was gone. And what's important to know about this, going back to what Dr. Carl was saying. a few minutes ago, right? Like the people who thought this crazy nonsense about, you know, both parties are bad, or like the Democratic Party don't like us, nobody ever expected the Democratic Party to love us. The EEOC, that Trump is essentially wiping out,
Starting point is 01:38:03 that was created by a black man named Hobart Taylor, who forced LBJ and JFK to literally on an argument Day to let him into the White House and he wrote two policies, right? The one that created the President's Commission on Equal Employment, which became the EEOC, and the other one was a new policy that no one had ever heard of.
Starting point is 01:38:26 He created the term on his own called Affirmative Action. These are the things that Trump wants to eliminate, but they're not things that the Democrats gave to Black people. It's things that Black people use the Democratic Party as a tool to realize for themselves. I don't know, by
Starting point is 01:38:44 Here's again what happens when simple Simon silly negroes can't read and get played. Remember when Trump put this little thing out, the platinum plan? Remember that? Come on. Come on, come on, guys. Now, all right. I'm going to go to the business part because you just said something people didn't get. He put in here fueling access to capital for black owned businesses.
Starting point is 01:39:14 And again, these same Negroes are like, see, y'all sitting here, y'all dog, Ice Cube. Ice Cube had an agreement where they were going to give us $500 billion. Look at the third one right there. Trump vowed to make the minority business development agency permanent appoint its leader to the Assistant Secretary of Commerce Level, create a sub-office of African American Affairs, and engage with private sector advisors to ensure real-world plans and solutions. Now, we called bullshit when he presented. What you just articulated is a hundred eighty degree different from this. This was always a joke.
Starting point is 01:39:54 It was a tinfoil plan. It was nothing but politicking. It was never real. And what he has now done with MAGA and the Heritage Foundation is exactly what they actually wanted to do. This was just politics. Right. And it's just like the people who are, I'll actually read the numbers and say, well, you know, Trump gave a bunch of money to HBCUs.
Starting point is 01:40:18 He didn't, right? But even if you think that the money, if you count the money that Congress allocated through a bill that a black woman wrote and all he did was signed a bill because he had no choice because he would have been, you know, his veto would have been overridden, even if you count that money and say you attribute that to Trump, then you have to also count the billions in dollars in grants that he stripped away from. HBCUs. As a matter of fact, if you talk about the Doge cuts, right, a third of the money that Doge cuts in the education were taken from HBCUs. They were disproportionately affected. They were twice as
Starting point is 01:40:57 their grants were twice as likely to be stripped away by Doge as white colleges and any other kinds of institutions, right? So he could say, like, I gave black people to use this money because he signed a bill, but he stripped away far more money in that. And you also have to count the scholarships that are longer allocated to black students because of his stupid DEI rules, right? Like, when you read the details of his plans and the policies that he's actually enacted, it reflects the plan that he told white people he was going to do, right? Yep.
Starting point is 01:41:32 Like, if you have to give him credit for anything, it's that he told us that he was going to do all of the anti-black stuff that he's been doing. You lay out, first of all, you said number 10, make the government white again. Come on, come on, come on, make the government white again. Then you go number nine, they will fight racism against white people. They actually have a plan to stop anti-black racism. Listen, that piece right there, racism against white people, that's their pillar. They claim that all know white people have been impacted.
Starting point is 01:42:02 They are seeing this in the Department of Education, in the defense, in health and human services, in DOJ. It is an ad... And they made it clear. We ain't prosecuting no cops who beat nobody up. We're going to let them off. We ain't prosecuting civil rights cases. And so, again,
Starting point is 01:42:18 though, to the 19... 18, 19% of black men who voted for Trump, y'all got played. And to the folks who were out there were just touting, oh, man, he's going to be amazing. It's like, we tried to tell you. We tried to tell you.
Starting point is 01:42:32 But some folks chose the couch. And now they're mad, Michael. Yeah, and I think... you're talking about how he does this stuff. And again, I don't even know if he fooled us because there were people like you, people, a lot of us who were saying, hey man, all you got to do is read it.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Like he's laid out his plan. In Project 2025, there was this small little detail that if you had read about this entire generation of Republican and conservatives effort, they really had been mad for years that the Army was getting. darker and darker. And black men, women,
Starting point is 01:43:13 were getting leadership positions. And there's a line in Project 2025 says that the U.S. military no longer reflects the demographics that makes America great. Well, you see that kind of demographics in one place, right? Like, he's telling colleges how to send him the data on how many Jewish students they have, and how many white students they had. So they are in favor of demographics in one place. The only place that he wants to take racial data is from the FBI
Starting point is 01:43:46 because he wants to push that black-on-black prime narrative that white supremacist love, right? But without that, he couldn't send those troops into those majority of black cities like D.C., like Memphis, like he wanted to do in Chicago, right? So he peeps and chooses, like he likes VEI when it is for white people. He likes it. So wait, wait, such as Lindsay. Lindsey Graham's sister, such as Lindsay Graham's sister in South Carolina.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Right. Like he likes, you know, they like the meritocracy, supposedly. But when Lindsey Graham's sister is standing in front of a debate stage and said, I don't know anything about this foreign policy stuff. Like, I'm just a little white girl. How am I supposed to know what all the big, strong men are doing over across the sea? That's not the meritocracy, right? Like, where's the meritocracy when you're talking about foreign wars, right?
Starting point is 01:44:38 Where's the barn talk to see? When you're talking about running out of bombs, right? So, but again, you can't be surprised when they laid it all out. Yep. In a 900-page document two years ago. Yeah. And remember, he's still before the cameras and said, I want to give all the cops of mutiny. He said it.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Came out of his mouth. I want to go to my panel right now. Larry, you're first up. Yeah. We've heard a lot about this. we talked about Project 2025 and some of these other supplementary documents.
Starting point is 01:45:16 What do you think we should do as a community to offer a strong counter-in-air? I know the Republicans, this is not new, the contract with America, et cetera, so they've been doing this for years. But what is it what is it you think we need to do in terms of obviously bring the collective together
Starting point is 01:45:30 and producing a document as clear, short, and long-range goals to counter and also make sure that you continue to take community forward that we can thrive. Oh, I don't know. I think when we talk about what we need a counter-narrative, we need a document, you know, just like Ice Cube was saying,
Starting point is 01:45:53 we've been doing that, right? Like you talk about, you know, Kevin Smiley did it. We did it in Gary, Indiana. We did it. We've been doing it for years. And if you look at all of those black agendas, they are remarkably similar, right? Like we've been demanding the same thing from this country for ever since we been here, right?
Starting point is 01:46:19 And so I don't know if a document or a plan is what we need, right? Like, because I think the defensive approach is like if they do it, we should do our own is not the way to counter them, right? We have to show everyone else. like ultimately, man, there is no other way to say it is that they want to kill you. Right. And they wrote it down on paper and passed it amongst themselves. It's like, hey, man, we are going to do everything that we can to kill them collectively as a community. Not Michael Harriet, not Roland Martin, not Dr. Carr, but collectively as a community,
Starting point is 01:47:03 we have created this document with the best and widest mind. in America that how of how we're going to kill black progress black communities, black institutions and black individual people and we have to get people to understand that and I don't know if a
Starting point is 01:47:23 document is going to do it right I don't know because we've written it down before yeah I'm so like we can literally use the Gary Indiana document right now and it would be a legitimate black agenda but we have to get people to understand it by translating it into terms that they understand
Starting point is 01:47:43 and to things that will inspire them to do something about it. I remember when one of the folks who was working with Ice Cube hit me up, and I ain't going to name the brother because I would embarrass the hell out of him. because he's embarrassed enough for saying that dumb shit to me on the phone. And I remember I parked in my driveway and we were talking.
Starting point is 01:48:12 He said, Roland, you don't understand. This is the first black agenda that's been presented since Reconstruction. I said, are you stupid? I said, don't you ever repeat that dumb shit to anybody ever again? I said, full, the NAACP, the National Urban League, D-9 groups. I said, I could run the CBC, I said, I could run you a plethora of black agendas that have been presented over.
Starting point is 01:48:52 I said MLK. I said, hey, I said, Nick, CORE, I said, man, we can run this thing down for more than 100 years. I said, don't ever say it again. Right. I said, so you, I said, so you, I said, do y'all actually think that y'all was so smart and so right that y'all came up with something
Starting point is 01:49:13 that nobody else thought about, hell, Amos Wilson got a book that's damn near this thick. I know Greg got a copy back there. Laying out the same thing, Dr. Claude Anderson. I said, what the hell are y'all talking about? Right. And it also insinuates,
Starting point is 01:49:31 Like, hey man, like the reason that we haven't gotten the things that we have demanded from this country or this country owes us is that like we just didn't write it down yet, right? Like an ice cube wrote it down and now we'll get it, right? And that's not how politics works. That's not how white people work. That's not how getting things works, right, from somebody who has stolen them from you. And the idea, like, again, right, I think agendas are fine. We got enough agenda. Let's, let's, like, if anything, let's, like, we could just, you know, update the language and put it, maybe the font.
Starting point is 01:50:11 But we got enough agenda. It ain't the agenda. They have a plan to kill us, right? It ain't, we got to decide, like, you know what, we need some more, a little bit of more of this and some, we got to sprinkle some salt on this thing that we made last year. We got enough, man. have to understand it's them. It's not anything that we've not doing done. Absolutely. Joy.
Starting point is 01:50:33 All right, look, so everyone knows if you've been on here, I am an alumnus of the EEOC in the Obama administration under Jackie Barion. If you care about the EEO1, which is what our guests is talking about here, and the consistent data collection that every company
Starting point is 01:50:49 has done that they use to their benefit often to show what progress they've done. And if we don't have it, we won't be able to see how they are undoing that progress. This one is for us specifically, but other groups, it cuts all kinds of data, right, on the basis of all kinds of demographics.
Starting point is 01:51:10 If you're a woman, if you're a person with disabilities, et cetera, the EEO one is highly important, especially though to black people. I put it in the show chat. There is a way for you to take individual action. The Federal Register is taking comments, right now, individuals can submit it. They're due on Monday, and I don't remember the exact time, but they're due on Monday.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I put the link in the chat where you can submit your individual comment. And if you are an organization, you should do so as well. But individual people, just like you and I, I put it in there twice. I'm going to put it in again repeatedly so you don't miss it. This is an opportunity where we can let our voice know. It has not been rescinded yet. They want to rescind it. trying to rescind it. And they have to go to the Federal Register to note that they want to do this,
Starting point is 01:52:03 to let us know, and to ask people what they think. And so this is your opportunity. If you don't respond, they'll say it's not needed. Don't be an idiot. Get out there, and I'm sorry to use strong language, but that's how imperative it is. We need you to go out there and let your voice known. You do believe that we need data collection because what you don't collect, you know, you won't fixed, you won't address, and that's what they're counting on. If we're not collecting it, they'll say there's no problem. Or worse, they'll say it's white people
Starting point is 01:52:33 being discriminated against, which is what they're saying now. But it's the evidence and the data that undermines that. That's why they're trying to get rid of it. This is also in their project 20, whatever, 25 plan. Child, you ain't used no strong language. You ain't even cuss.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Greg, Greg, go ahead. Thank you, Roland. And thank you, brother, Michael. As always, brilliant work, man. I'm glad you out there with both fists fighting. He always so crystal clear and put it as Joe Madison would say, where the ghosts can get it. But I'm wondering if you have any thoughts on whether or not it's possible that these white nationalists could overplay their hand. And we know Kevin Roberts is a purebred out of dialogue. I was listening to him and David Blight in the conversation. And Roberts is so out of touch with reality. It's not even real. And that little
Starting point is 01:53:23 Russell vote, as you know, better than most people on the planet at this point, scurrying around with his dreams, both of my dialogues and so many of them. Is it possible in your mind that, having caught the car, they may indeed superheat this whole notion of a United States of America. I was listening to Jamel Bowie talking about this today. I watched his latest clip, and he was talking about the fact that, you know, Trump, which is the wild card, he didn't write Project 2025. He couldn't tell you anything that's in it,
Starting point is 01:53:53 but he knows he's about him, his money, his profits, and whatever else is in his mind, as he has now basically decided, I'm not going to give any support to any state or any city that voted for me. I'm going to start a war overseas. You can't reverse the demographics in this country. Is it possible that with them finally capturing this thing and having their dreams that they might actually push this country beyond repair
Starting point is 01:54:16 and it may end up in fracture and then maybe out of those ashes, we build something different? I know that's a long-range question, but you've laid all the foundation. I'm wondering if you have any thoughts about that. So I think what I would say is I don't know if the may is even a question now. Like I don't think we have to speculate. Like they've already burned it down, right?
Starting point is 01:54:39 Like there is a point where you can't put out the fire. You just have to let it burn. We're past that point right now, right? they've already burned it down. And so I agree with you. Like they've caught the car. They've burned it down. Like there is no part of the federal government.
Starting point is 01:55:01 That's the point of this, right? Like what we are in, the stage that we are in now is a stage of what next? What do we build next? They did it. They achieved everything that they want to. They are going to be the ones that are on the losing end because, like, We haven't been on the winning end in this country, you know, for the most part, right? So what they're burning down is the thing that...
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Starting point is 01:56:02 important to your personality, welcome home. This is Prose Society, the weekly podcast that's part book club, part group chat for thought daughters, pop culture obsessives, and anyone who thinks Pride and Prejudice and Love Island deserve the same level of discourse. I'm Eli Rallo, and every week We're connecting the dots between books, the internet, and the conversations everyone can't stop having. I'm going to have to look up this story. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. From best-selling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table.
Starting point is 01:56:35 It's like if you can hide some real messages inside compelling characters, then that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place. Listen to Pro Society on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements.
Starting point is 01:57:02 We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, a.k.a. The biz. And try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time
Starting point is 01:57:17 and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman. Not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head? How about we flip this around? What is the surprise woman?
Starting point is 01:57:33 Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept.
Starting point is 01:57:59 You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity. Exuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity. Mm-hmm. Ben Stiller, no.
Starting point is 01:58:15 Because a lot of times, out of the conference, context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's a state? Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right. Fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life.
Starting point is 01:58:31 I don't care about your life. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotbby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotb. If you know me, you know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy.
Starting point is 01:58:59 So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space. You're hired to fill the space with you. You have something in your guts. You go with it. And Sean Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetically himself and knew nothing of Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:59:34 He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. They built and the infrastructure that they built. And again, because they are going to demand that something they built to replace it, we are going to have to remind ourselves
Starting point is 02:00:00 that we must be included. We have to include ourselves in the rebuilding. And it can't be this again. It can't be this white nationalist structure again. It can't be, like again, right? Like when we see these, what we used to call and believe that we're, were checks and balances and didn't think,
Starting point is 02:00:19 well, you know, the president just can't just dismantle 50 or 100 years of stuff that we fought for. Hey, man, we left it into executive branch store. Right, right. We never made it undergirded by congressional legislation so the president can do it, right? We never took that sting, that Hobart Taylor role and thought like, man, we could expand,
Starting point is 02:00:45 that we can we can buttress it, we can make it stronger. Now, we're like, we got it now. And that's the thing that we have to understand, right? Everything we build, right, they're going to be chopping at it as soon as it's built up. And we also have to realize that politics is not just a game of going to the booth and voting. It is a maintenance project that we are required to participate in. Just like we just explained, right, like you've got to go and put in your public comment. You have to go and fight this.
Starting point is 02:01:15 on every end, not just in a voting booths, right? The keeping up, the protection of black people is an ongoing project that does not just happen every four years. And voting is important, but it is not the only part of political maintenance. So my final piece here is Michael. You talk about, again, how they targeted us. Go to my iPad. See any in post with this. Donald Trump's white working class support.
Starting point is 02:01:45 has absolutely cratered. Now, first of all, let me real clear. I don't believe polls. I think them white folks still going to vote for Trump and whatever he tells them to do. But the bottom line is, here's what we know, whenever black people
Starting point is 02:01:58 have fought for civil rights and economic rights that actually improve the lives of broke-ass white people. Always had. Right. Always had. And it's white people.
Starting point is 02:02:07 So what these broke-ass white people didn't realize is when they targeted us, they fucked y'all up to. See, they, they thought it was just us. They thought it was just us. And the last point, I want you to speak to both of these in your final comment.
Starting point is 02:02:22 You wrote this, your number one. You said, Project 2025 is not Trump dependent. You said, they are not four-year plans for the Trump administration. They are guidebooks for making elections inconsequential and permanently transforming America into an apartheid state. It is perhaps the most complete blueprint for white supremacy since disparate states past reconstruction era, Jim Crow laws. Hillary Clinton made the mistake when she said.
Starting point is 02:02:45 said, oh, we beat Trump, the old Republican Party is going to come back. Joe Biden said the exact same thing in 2020. I was like, both y'all are crazy. The reality is these folks, they want to lock in. They want to destroy the black infrastructure, the civil rights, the economic rights, the civil rights, social justice, health, education, all of it. From the Reconstruction Amendments, the First Reconstruction, to the Second Reconstruction, the Black Freedom Movement.
Starting point is 02:03:15 civil rights movement. And then the third reconstruction, for me, the death of George Floyd, which kicked off that period. That's what these folks want. So they want to wipe it all out because they see the numbers to Greg's point. And their whole deal is, man, listen, we're going to be the minority population-wise one day, but we want to make sure we always got that power. So the only thing I would disagree with is the want-to point, right?
Starting point is 02:03:40 Like, they have. Like, ain't no more reconstruction amendments, right? Due processes go. Like, do people are in the concentration? because the due process is gone, right? Like, we know the Voting Rights Act is gone, right? We know the 15th, he is, keeps chopping away at the 14th Amendment, right? He wants to destroy the birthright citizenship, right?
Starting point is 02:04:03 Like, what, like, what is the want-to part, right? And as eloquently as you put it about, it helps the poor white people. We also have to remember it helps the rich white people. Elon Musk came running Twitter and Tesla and all that. Those people who are creating that technology were beneficiaries of immigration enforcement acts that were included in those 1965 and 1964 civil rights acts that benefited those H-1B visas. All of those people are creating all of the welfare, Bezos, and Elon Musk. And the rich people to where they're just the poor people.
Starting point is 02:04:44 Right? Like, it ain't just the poor people who wanted healthcare. I mean, you think about it 20 years ago, man. You, if you didn't have a job, you, the hospital could say, hey, man, you ain't got no money to pay for this. Like, you could be bankrupt if you're an appendix first, right? We changed that. Right? They didn't even vote for the guy who did that.
Starting point is 02:05:08 Yep. And as imperfect as it is, right? Like, we live in a world where our, our, efforts help everybody. And I think we have to understand that it is an ongoing project and everything we do, they are opposing. And that is the point, right?
Starting point is 02:05:28 Like, there is an opponent trying to undo everything we do. It is never neatly tied in the boat. It is never finished. You mentioned his name several times. Hobart Taylor. Just for all y'all know, Hobart Taylor, Native Texan.
Starting point is 02:05:45 Oh, God, no, I'm just saying, Native Texan, Prayer View A&M University graduate, and also a graduate of the mighty, of the mighty crimson and gold. No, I ain't going to say what you're thinking, but he's a graduate of Jack Yates High School in Houston, Texas. So I just want to go ahead
Starting point is 02:06:06 and for all the folk out there who don't quite know that University of Michigan graduate, but absolutely he is a J.Y graduate. So for all y'all people out there who don't understand, that's how those things work. So great job, great job, Michael, for breaking that whole thing down. And y'all, go to contrabandcamp.com.
Starting point is 02:06:33 Go to contrabandcamp.com. And you can check it out. Again, we want you to subscribe to contrabandcamp.com. contrabandcamp.com. Y'all, please go check that out and subscribe because that's critically important. And you know what?
Starting point is 02:06:55 See, Michael thought I was going to say he's an alpha, he's not. So Michael, I got this little sigma in the control room. So we throw him a bone every nine then. We throw him a bone every nine then. And I keep telling him he's one of the few sigmas under 55 I've ever met. Okay, so most of the...
Starting point is 02:07:13 most of the sigma is over 55. And so Hobart Taylor, Terrell, part of your little youth group. So again, now your bone, there you go, but you know that's one compared to thousands of alphas. Go sit your ass back down in the control room. Because guess what? You work for an alpha, Terrell. All right, Michael.
Starting point is 02:07:33 I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you for having me. All right, y'all, going to a break. We come back. We're going to chat with Wander to rant about what they're doing. We're back to school here in the nation's capital in Maryland, Virginia. They're watching Rolla Martin unfiltered on the Black Star Network.
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Starting point is 02:10:25 Let me ask you a question. Why do so many people seem to think they know black men so well? What they think we want, what they think we need. Hell, they even tried to tell us why and how we vote. I never had a conversation with us. Never asked us how we felt. It brings us joy. What makes us angry?
Starting point is 02:10:41 What makes us scared? How do we live? That's what this show is about. No translation, because we don't need anybody speaking for us. We can speak for ourselves. This will be a show where we bring brothers on that you don't see on every other talk show.
Starting point is 02:10:52 Nope. Brothers that are doing work in local communities with black men for black communities. We're going to hear each other and try to understand so perhaps we can move forward together. No translation. Because we don't need. need anybody speaking for us. What we need is each other. No translation. Right here on the Black Star
Starting point is 02:11:10 Network. Check it out. I'm Ryan Wilson, CEO, co-founder of the Gathering Spot, and you're watching Roland Unfiltered on the Black Star Network. So, of course, we've got many people going back to school, and resources are critically important, especially with what's happening with the economy this weekend. The Durant Family Chairman Foundation was going to be providing school supplies. The journalist right now is Wanda Durant. Of course, she is the mother of Houston Rocket star Kevin Durant, the most important team he's played for his entire career, been a native Houstonian.
Starting point is 02:16:16 So glad to see you. What's happening? How you doing? All good? Good to see you. All good. How many years have y'all done this? This is our third year during the Community Day, Back to School Drive.
Starting point is 02:16:24 Gotcha. So got the Community Day. Where's it taking place? At 5-001, Silver Hill Road, Suitland, Maryland, across from the old Sutland High School. Now, is it only for folks in Maryland? Because obviously it's the DMVs. No, it's a DMV.
Starting point is 02:16:36 We registered students for haircuts, braiding, and sneakers. Because we didn't want any students coming and not being serviced. Right. So we did early registration for that. Okay. How many folks you got signed up? Right now, for the haircuts, I think it's almost 100 for both. And for sneakers, we have 500.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Gotcha. And so do you have barbers providing their services? Yes. We have barbers and braiders coming in to provide services. Yes. Gotcha. We're going to have food trucks. We're going to have activities for the kids. And also I'm the president of Our Mothers, which is a group of mothers of sons who play basketball.
Starting point is 02:17:12 And so we started our independent readers program, which we're creating curriculum to teach kids the love of books. And not just give them books because we don't know if they're going to read. So what we're going to do is we're going to partner with one of the local schools to bring our program there to teach the kids how to read in the technology. and the technique of reading. Now, how many, of course, I've spoken to your groups, but how many mothers are part of our mothers? Right now, it's a part from about 10 of us right now, who are full-time working on our back-to-school,
Starting point is 02:17:44 not back-to-school, but NBA All-Star Gets. But you've got other mothers who are pool. Right, we've got mothers all over the league who volunteer with us, but the core group. Leadership, yeah. Yes, about 10 of us in leadership, yeah. And we've seen, whether it's NBA, We see the same thing in the NFL
Starting point is 02:18:00 where parents of these athletes recognize that it's not just what happens on the court on the field. Exactly. That there's a responsibility that comes with from the communities they come from. Exactly. And we know that our sons are out preparing, working on their games,
Starting point is 02:18:20 meeting with their partners, creating their professional networks, but their philanthropic efforts, they don't always have a whole lot of time. And so when our mothers come together, we feel the gap for them. And so it's important that the community knows that how our sons get back is through the parents sometimes.
Starting point is 02:18:37 Right. Yeah. And so we're here to serve the community and to bring forth the ideas that our sons have and wanting to serve. Absolutely. And on that particular point, because when you talk about fulfilling a vision, then you have athletes, listen, they're not going to play forever. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:18:55 And so you still have those various things. I was playing golf last month of Alonzo Morning. And the thing that he has his used to be summer group, now it's the winter group. Yes. He does around MLK National Holiday. And the things that he's done now in affordable housing and things along those lines. So he's been retired more than a couple of decades. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:17 But that work continues. It continues because it's of who they are, really. And it's just that they don't have the time when they're playing. And then they're creating resources and networks to help them continue. after their plague. And that's what Kevin has done. One of the things, when we started our foundation in 2013, he wanted to give back. And because we were all very new in that space outside of the grassroots giving them, feeding people in the neighborhood, he decided that I don't just want to be an immediate resource, but I want a legacy for the community which
Starting point is 02:19:47 raised me. And so we have the first generation college preparatory program. We have our summer camp enrichment program for eight to 14-year-old. helping them to understand the importance of mental and emotional health awareness throughout the experiences of their entire lives. We did it through art and photography. We did it through cook culinary camp. And this year just passed, we had the financial awareness camp, teaching them the importance of understanding what money is, how to earn money, what is budgeting? What's the difference between needs and wants? We had a makeshift bank at our facility and a store. They had to apply for the job. And we taught them that, you know, when you ask your parents for things, It just doesn't fall out the sky and these are the processes that they have to go to and to afford you some of the things that you want and the things that you need So I didn't get to y'all event this year because this year's NBA all-star game was crazy Yes, it was and the time the time threw everything off
Starting point is 02:20:43 Yes everything was early Exactly it was crazy, yeah We had to pivot, but it worked out So a few years ago when I was at TB1 Yeah, I actually We actually went to it was when it was in LA and we did a special on NBA players in philanthropy. And a lot of people going, why are you going to an Austro game?
Starting point is 02:21:05 I said, no, y'all don't realize. One, I said people don't realize the number of philanthropic things that are happening. Yes. The amount of money, these players are raising for their foundation. And people really just don't understand that it is significant. When you start talking about, look, you've got 405, 450 NBA players. And you've got your NBA players, retired players associate. Yes. And then you have your older vets as well.
Starting point is 02:21:29 Listen, I play in a ton of golf tournaments. I'm in Atlanta on Monday for Chris Tucker's golf tournament. Next month, I got five. Alex English, Vernon Maxwell, Nancy Lieberman, Craig, Melvin, Jeffrey Osborne. And so people really, I don't think, pay attention to so many things that are happening in how many people are being touched by these athletic foundations. Of course, because those are not the stories that you hear. You hear how athletes are going broke
Starting point is 02:21:57 after so many years and those things are true But there are so many athletes Who understand the importance of giving back And one of the things, giving back is actually a requirement For the professional players But it extends beyond that Because as Kevin stated to me It's not just about what we can acquire
Starting point is 02:22:15 And what we do and we do very well He's done well for himself and our family But it's about how do we rise up the community around us? How do we build a place where they feel that it's home and the professional athletes in our area have invested into what they're doing. And so it's important for the community to know.
Starting point is 02:22:35 And shows like yours bring awareness to some of the things that's going on that's unknown to the general population. Oh, absolutely. And so, you know, again, so many people don't realize it and I think people do take it for granted. And you're talking about doing well.
Starting point is 02:22:54 I think you're selling only one of four NBA players to exceed $500 million in career earnings in NBA. Okay, we're going to keep talking. And again, and that's just on the court. We ain't talking about the shoe deals. So all major. And that's the other piece that I'm always trying to get our people to understand,
Starting point is 02:23:11 and I've had this conversation with many athletes as well. And that is, there is massive generational wealth that is accumulated. The question then becomes, we retain it and then how do we then weaponize it for our community? Yes. And that's something that I always talk about and even what I do in terms of, you know, in terms of personal giving for National Association of Black Journalists and others, I say
Starting point is 02:23:41 to folks that, listen, this is important for how we were able to build black institutions. Yes, yes, it is important. And one of the things, and how we do that is we have to build the communities. We can't, one of the things that Kevin has said, and I keep re-emphasizing what Kevin has said, because this all started because of his career. And so what he said, I want to be a part of building our community so our community doesn't feel like we have to be successful and leave. That's build a place where they want to be successful and stay and to encourage the next generations on how to build a successful community. I think it's important that we realize that, like, I tell people, I grew up on one. one end of the road
Starting point is 02:24:26 and now I live on the other end of the road, but I'm not far off. Because the community, no, I'm at home. I go wherever I want to go. I'm warmly and welcomed by everybody because they know I'm in it for the thicket of it. We have some interesting activities going around and
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Starting point is 02:25:44 I'm obsessed. So I'm obsessed. From bestselling authors and your favorite book talk creators to the latest pop culture moments, nothing is off the table. It's like if you can hide some real. messages inside compelling characters, and that is a Trojan horse. Whether you're looking for literary deep dives, smart pop culture conversations, or a community of readers who love to think a little too much, you're in the right place.
Starting point is 02:26:09 Listen to Pro Society on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you between the pages. Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka The Biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us.
Starting point is 02:26:33 Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicist for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great. Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip this script? What is the surprise woman? But actually you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott, this entire time you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show.
Starting point is 02:27:05 I would never expect, I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking down the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity.
Starting point is 02:27:30 Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's a state? Everyone's so dumb except for you. And fake. Right, fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't care about your life.
Starting point is 02:27:49 you're like. And a lot of other big shots that wouldn't be where they are without us. Oh, and by the way, Will Ferrell told us personally he loves the show and he wants to be a guest on every episode, but he's just so busy. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Hoda Kotby, host of the podcast, Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby. If you know me, you know, I'm always searching for inspiration and useful tools to maximize joy. So this podcast lets us uncover those things together through meaningful conversations with fascinating people. Like when my friend Henry Winkler offered advice to aspiring actors and really anybody hoping to stand out. You're not hired just to fill time and space. You're hired to fill the space with you.
Starting point is 02:28:38 You have something in your guts. You go with it. And Sean Johnson recalled the moment she realized her now husband, Andrew, was the one. He was just so unapologetic. himself and knew nothing of Hollywood. He hadn't been on a plane before without his family. It was so pure. Listen to Joy 101 with Hoda Kotby on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And I know the public know that we were in partnership for Six Flags,
Starting point is 02:29:09 the old Six Flags, and so we're still working on what that looks like. And so when Kevin said that he put his money where his mouth is, his effort, built a team for our family office to support his dreams of growing and building up our community. And he's doing lots of in the media too. And I've been meeting and actually have a conversation with him about that.
Starting point is 02:29:30 I mean, watch the media stuff he's doing. Let's go to some questions up from our panel. Larry, you're first. Yes, sir. You know, first of all, thank you for your philanthropic work. It's really important. Thank you. And I know that the D&P is obviously home these
Starting point is 02:29:45 and you talk about this event. Have we thought about as over the next couple of years, expanded multiple sites throughout the family? We would love to do that. I'm the president of our family foundation, and one of the things I think is important is that I realize that I don't need to reinvent the will. There are other nonprofit organizations
Starting point is 02:30:03 that are doing great things, and if we partner together, I think we can blanket whatever area we decide to blanket. But I would be willing to move this effort anywhere where we can support the communities that are in need. Joy. First of all, I love this. And I personally want, you know, a Black Open Society Foundation.
Starting point is 02:30:26 What are you all doing to focus on bringing money into your foundation so that you all can grow in its footprint? I think sometimes you think a foundation's giving, but there's many times they also take money from others so that they can expand their capacity. Of course, donors are more than welcome to support our efforts. We have long-term support from companies like JMA Solutions, ideal electric company, individual donors like Danielle McGehee,
Starting point is 02:31:00 partners that Kevin has garnered over the years. And so donations is very much needed for the philanthropic work. And yes, my son is doing very well, but he can't be the only one who support the efforts that we put forth to help the community. so donations are welcomed. What's the website? The website is
Starting point is 02:31:20 Durant Family Charitable Foundation.org. All right then. Greg. Thank you, Roland, and thank you, Mama Durant, the real MVP. Yeah. Listen, I just want to, do you mind saying a word
Starting point is 02:31:36 about how the foundation has begun working with historically black colleges? I know y'all made a significant investment in Bowie State University And yes. Could you say a little bit about that? Because often the criticism of so many of our athletes is, why don't they play at HBCUs? Or why don't they? But in your family's case, you have certainly worked in your very own backyard beginning with Bowie. So thank you for all the working. Thank you so much. Bowie was one of the places that the AAU tournaments were held when my sons were in Young Voys and the AAU organization. And because it's such a staple in Maryland, the OJ's, OJ's. this HBCU in Maryland, of course we wanted to support it. And so Kevin felt like not only do I want to support
Starting point is 02:32:24 the University of Texas where I've gone and where I played, but I want to support the oldest. Oh, don't, don't mention that school. Ah, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. You can't mention that school in this studio. Sorry, sorry, but.
Starting point is 02:32:37 Be the Texas isn't on here, go on here, go on here. And so he said, you know, that school, that Roland doesn't much me to mention. But so he says, it's important. to get back at home. And it just kind of ties into his effort that we have to build up home. And also, not only we support
Starting point is 02:32:55 Bowie, but we also supported the conference that happened in North Carolina. A few HBCU conference, I think it's in the second year. We were a lead sponsor two years in a row. And so HBCU are colleges
Starting point is 02:33:13 that our students want to go through, go to, and some of them are partnered with us and now first-generation college preparatory program. And so it's a big part of who we are as a community. And we at the Durant Family Foundation and Kevin want to continue to support it. What's the one thing you really want to do with the foundation you ever done? The one thing that I really want to do, and we're working on it, is we have this On the RISE program, where we impact the thinking, the thought processes,
Starting point is 02:33:47 in the filters of young people, helping them to deal with some of the experiences they have, some good, some bad, but we just want to be there to help them to navigate through that. So we're working on our curriculum, and it's called the Real MVP on the Rise program where we mentor students from ages 12 to 15, 50 boys and 50 girls.
Starting point is 02:34:11 That's going to be our pilot program, and hopefully we'll get that underway by January of 2007. You get a new crop of players every year, which means you get a new crop of mothers every year. Yes. Do y'all sort of have an onboarding, training? Let me walk y'all through what y'all about to deal with, sort of conversation. I mean, like the league has its rookie symposium. Do y'all have one for the Mamas and the Daddies?
Starting point is 02:34:38 We do. There are a few family organizations that we are part of, and it's called, we lovingly call it all in the family. where we have access for mentorship with parents. Some parents, they're wide-eyed and bushy-tailed. So some experiences, usually I have to let them experience. But we are there. I get calls from mothers all the time sharing. I'm known as a safe space for mothers to download and to vent.
Starting point is 02:35:07 I encourage them to build up their own lives inside of their son's career. I know you want to see them off. But they're young men. Yeah, because, I mean, these parents, and the reason I keep saying parents, because daddies are theirs. It's amazing, even though you might watch the NBA draft, and it's crazy because it's like,
Starting point is 02:35:29 y'all don't mention the dudes standing right next to the mom and the player. You know there's a new podcast out for the fathers. Oh, really? Yeah, and that's one of the subjects that they're talking about, how they were seemingly disconnected, their attempt to disconnect them from their sons, always talking about the mom, about the moms.
Starting point is 02:35:46 And in my case, primarily I was a single mother for the majority of my son's life. Right. My son knew their father, know who he was. He was there, how he was there. And so, but they have gravitated to Mama DeRamp
Starting point is 02:36:01 because my son gravitates to me, right? I didn't trash talk to him at an All-Star Games, so, you know, he talked that long-horse stuff too. So, yeah. But the reality is, listen, there are some players. And as you said, with you and Kevin, single mother. But the reality is, there are a lot of players. Dad is, dad is there.
Starting point is 02:36:22 Dad is with mom. They're involved. And they've been in the process. And it's so many, and what's crazy now is the number of former NBA players whose sons are now in the NBA. Yes, yes, yes. So you can't avoid it. But I do understand, you know, they apply with that. I understand even personally how it happened.
Starting point is 02:36:43 I think how the world became to know who I am because after every game my son would come and hug me his dad was there a lot of the times he didn't go hug him but he came and hug me and so you know with son just going to go hug and kiss on their dad like that in front of TV you know I don't know but I understand it I understand it is what it is
Starting point is 02:37:03 but I'm going to be Mama De Brand no matter what yeah mom and Grant also was also yelling at some players too you were you know you're about to walk into the court a few times A few times because they were trying to beat my baby off because he was just lighting him up on that court. But it's all good. They came back to tell you, Mama, I'm going to let you relax. No.
Starting point is 02:37:25 He had never said that to me. He may have given me a look, but one thing that happened, one time I was fussing at the refs, and the refs called him for a foul and looked at me, and he just looked at me like, Mom. And I just, I was like, okay, I'll chill out. Like, you're going to get me, picked out the game. Right, right.
Starting point is 02:37:46 And one time we was doing preseason, I was at the game, and I was fussing, and the refs and the refs and, Mom, we're still in preseason, not the day. So they know I'm very energetic at the game. Oh, absolutely. So you've been getting loud in Houston, Toyota Center? Yes, yes. After almost 20 years, yes.
Starting point is 02:38:06 That's still my baby out there. We're going to have to go to a game in H-town. Again, let's do it. Let's do it. Again, that's home. I'm born and raised in Houston. I'm going to invite you to come. Let me know when you're there, and hopefully, if I'm there, then we're going to sit together.
Starting point is 02:38:19 There's a problem. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. That ain't do it. That ain't, no thing. We do it. All right.
Starting point is 02:38:26 So, listen, we, you know, we got Fred Van Fleet back. Okay. We're expecting great things. Listen, I mean, we got the ball out this year because I wouldn't have it last year. I'm expecting great things. All right. So in May, I'm like, listen. Let's win this West.
Starting point is 02:38:42 Let's do it. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's going to be some good games in the West. Oh. Yeah. So we expected to... I'm expecting us to come out to West. So I'm going to call it now.
Starting point is 02:38:52 I'm calling as well. Okay. All right. And so, listen, I'm through and through age town. I don't cheer for nobody else. When I moved to Chicago, they were like, you cheer on the hell? No, I didn't care about no bulls. That's right.
Starting point is 02:39:04 That's right. No cubs, no white socks. That's right. I ain't give a damn about no nationals or Wizards here. Like, I'm a Wizards fan because I'm home. But just home. Because I'm home. And I'm fine with that.
Starting point is 02:39:14 My whole deal is... But where my baby goes? I got to go with him. See, I tell people, you should be cheering with people where you're from. I don't know what Jamel Hill is doing, what the hell is wrong with her. I'm like, how are you a Pistis fan but a 49ers fan? Well, the lines, when I was there, I was like, no, you got to go home. That's right.
Starting point is 02:39:33 You know, and then Henry, who normally here, he's trifling. He's a cowboy's fan. From D.C.? And you have him here? I know. I know. I've been rethinking that. I mean, not a Cowboys fan. And it's bad because him, the son by driver,
Starting point is 02:39:50 and Antoine, all Cowboys with Cowboys fans. But we wear that ass out every year. Yeah, we need to find a new rival. That's how bad it is. Find new rival? Or I need to find new employees? Well, no, we know you got keep folk employed. Don't do that.
Starting point is 02:40:08 Right, absolutely. You know, well, Anthony and Terrell, they command us fans, but that don't mean nothing anymore. That's all right. We're prepping ourselves. We're coming back. We're coming back? The days of the hogs on the horizon.
Starting point is 02:40:21 Okay. Well, they play my Texas this year, so they might as well go ahead and get ready for that beating. Okay, we'll see. We'll see. All right. Again, time and location of the back-to-school giveaway.
Starting point is 02:40:35 The back-to-school giveaway is going to be at our headquarters, which is at 5-001, Silver Hill Road in Suitland, Maryland. The time is from one to four, rain or shine. I'm going to be out there with my new hairdo, so if I could be out there with my new hairdo in the rain, you could come out and partake in the festivities. All right, sounds great, y'all.
Starting point is 02:40:55 Durant Family Charitable Foundation. Please support what they're doing. The website again? The website is derandfamity charitablefoundation.org. All right, damn. We've got to figure out where I can put something against, I don't know. Maybe with the shoes. Maybe we can get some.
Starting point is 02:41:11 Are we gonna get you something over here because we need to be represented. Right. We got, you know, I got the Nike Black History Month shoes. I got the golf shoes. I'm gonna figure it out. East Side Golf. Those are the 1961.
Starting point is 02:41:24 That's when they got rid of the Caucasian only rule. Those are shoes. Those are the Kaepernick Nikes. They gave me. And then, oh, Lamont Owen gave me those shoes right there. I got a pair. I got a pair for you at home. I got a pair.
Starting point is 02:41:39 I got, they're signed, worn game shoes from Kevin. I'm gonna need a bigger damn space because he got to be. Yeah, I think we make this have to put it in here. Back to put them down by the five places. Yeah, yeah, I think those, they're quite, they're about 17. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, it's good to see you. Thank you so much, love you, love you.
Starting point is 02:42:00 And then, what the All-Star Game is? What the next one? Arizona. Arizona. It's gonna be that early damn stuff again. Well, we're going to be going out to do the same thing. we adopting the school out there. So hopefully you'll come by and see this.
Starting point is 02:42:12 Y'all, the other reason I go to that deal, like the NBA newsmakers breakfast is nice breakfast. It's okay. They got real food that they breakfast. They got that thick-ass bacon. And they even have grits at their deal. So I always go by this spot. Yes.
Starting point is 02:42:32 And we give our nice swag bags, too. They got our swag bags, everything. I came. Wanda made me give a speech. I'm like, Wanda, you know I get paid for this here. I know. She was like, God, brother, go and set up few words.
Starting point is 02:42:45 I get it. I get it. I gave about 15 minutes. And I was like, 15 minutes. You know what I'm trying? I get it. I got the run from it myself.
Starting point is 02:42:55 Well, I always enjoy us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Y'all, that is in the first.
Starting point is 02:43:03 Let me thank Greg. Let me thank Joy. Let me thank Larry. Two Alfa brothers. on the show. I appreciate that. You know my frat brother here, too. Huh? Who? No, that's a youth group. I keep telling you that.
Starting point is 02:43:13 Don't everybody talk about them singles. We gotta support the youth anyway. Yeah, yeah, we got support the youth. That's right, because he got baby milk all on his collar. Again, let me think my panel. I appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Folks, please support the work that we do. I tell y'all, listen, our followers have been amazing.
Starting point is 02:43:30 We lost this show eight years ago. Our anniversary of September 4th, more than 50,000 people. Bring that music down, please. More than 50,000 people have contributed to our show over the eight years. Man, y'all support has been incredible. And so let's keep this thing up because we got some great things.
Starting point is 02:43:46 I told y'all our new shows we got going on. First of all, we got to balance life with Reverend Dr. Jacket Hood, Martin. Juan, you've got to do that show. I've got to get you on that show. Okay, let's do it. So that's every Tuesday, every Wednesday. The other side will change.
Starting point is 02:43:58 We're our two millennial host, Brea Baker and Jamir Burley. Every Thursday, we've got second opinion with Dr. Ebony Hilton. That's every single Thursday. The Black Table with Dr. Greer Carr, airs every Friday. With that new show, Greg.
Starting point is 02:44:11 Greg's still there. He left. Greg, what you got lined up? It's coming. I got a couple of schedules coming up, man. All right then. So, y'all, we got some new episodes
Starting point is 02:44:22 of the Black Table coming. Of course, next Thursday, we're launching the new show, no translation, with Jeff Johnson, airing right here. That's geared toward Black men. Then, of course, Roland's Book Club
Starting point is 02:44:33 airs every Friday. Great interviews with our book authors. Y'all got that rolling with rolling graphic, and, of course, I want to want interviews. We've had Earth, winning, and fire. We've had Jeffrey Osborne. I told you all to get in the last break. What took your song, Longest Go?
Starting point is 02:44:46 You need to pull a video up on YouTube. We've had amazing interviews. I'm talking about Malcolm Lee, Tali Kuale, Flexi Alexander, Ray Chu, Sherry Shepherd, Sheila E, God Tori. My goodness. We've had Michael Ely. We've had John Hope Bryant, Lou Gossett, Jr. We had a TI.
Starting point is 02:45:08 We've had, man, just so many amazing people. We're going to be going to L.A. soon. My girl, of course, Jane Kennedy Overton, she called me out of NABJ. She was like, okay, Roland, I got my book. We were doing this interview. We've been talking for a whole year. So we're going to sit down with her.
Starting point is 02:45:24 We got some other great people. I've been seeing Kevin in his podcast, so we need to interview each other. Okay, let's do it. I've seen this podcast. So, y'all, we've had some unbelievable interviews with Roland with Roland. So when y'all support, you're not supporting this show.
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Starting point is 02:47:20 And so, y'all, check it out. You name it. We got books and backpacks and cross-re puzzles and car solution, and we got grooming products and skincare products. And we got black-owned toilet paper. Did you know that we got some black on toilet paper and tissue? No.
Starting point is 02:47:35 Company called Leafy. Hey, Sigma, run over there and get the, bring me the tissue. That's right. Seriously, it's a black on toilet paper company. Really? So they use bamboo because of traditional toilet paper, they use dyes in it. So they use bamboo. So, yeah, we sat here and so it's called Leafy.
Starting point is 02:47:54 I'm going to take a look over. It's called Leafy. Just bring, I said, it's right. So again, we got, y'all, we got black on tall. and paper in tissue. Come on, bring the box, bring the box. You don't want to stop pulling your pants up. Hand to Wanda.
Starting point is 02:48:08 Come on, Sigma. You almost dropped the bad. Go on Sigma? Put some ass-ass feet you got. All right, then. Yeah, so they use bamboo. Wow. Absolutely.
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