#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Biden visits Kenosha; CDC tells states prepare for COVID-19 vaccine; Emergency lawsuit against Kanye

Episode Date: September 4, 2020

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Really? You think we about to believe that? We'll talk with an infectious disease specialist about what we need to know about this so-called vaccine. On the international front, the United States has imposed sanctions on senior officials in the International Criminal Court, including Chief Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda.

We'll tell you what that means and why you should care. We'll talk to two experts on that. Seven cops in Rochester, New York have been suspended since body cam footage was released showing a black man being suffocated to death. Y'all, horrible footage we have for you in his brother's response. Louisiana Congressman Clay Higgins

threatens protesters with violence in a Facebook post he has blasted by Congressman Cedric Richmond. And Virginia's Attorney General files a lawsuit to block Kanye West from being on the presidential ballot. In Mississippi, they have a new flag designed that voters will vote on.

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It's Uncle Roro, yo Yeah, yeah It's Rolling Martin, yeah Yeah, yeah Rolling with rolling now Yeah, yeah He's funky, he's fresh, he's real The best you know, he's Rolling Martin Today in Kenosha, Wisconsin, Joe and Jill Biden visited that city where Jacob Blake was shot in the back a week ago seven times by Kenosha police officers. When they landed, they had a private meeting with the family of Jacob Blake. He joined them by telephone.

They spent more than an hour in that conversation. It was Jacob Blake's father, his siblings and one of his attorneys, B. Ivory Lamar. Blake's mother, Julia Jackson, attorney attorney Ben Crump joined by phone. A meeting was also held with Kenosha community members where many concerns were raised. Biden also spoke about his meeting with Jacob Blake and his family at that church event. You know, the things that I talked about here, we have to do, didn't start with, even back to Eric Garner, I can't breathe, but proposing these for a long time. I mean, activist for years. And the one thing I think we have to acknowledge, my mom used to have an expression. I'd say, you want to know me? Come walk in my shoes a mile. Well, even though I've been involved with the African American community and the civil rights movement since I've been a junior in high school,

the segregated movie theaters and the like, I can't understand what it's like to walk out the door or send my son out the door or my daughter and worry about just because they're black, they may not come back. I can't really, I can intellectually understand it, but I can't, I can't feel it. I just spent an hour or more with the family as I got off the airplane. Had an opportunity to spend some time with Jacob on the phone. He's out of ICU. We spoke for about 15 minutes. His brother and two sisters, his dad and his mom on the telephone.

And I spoke to him a lot before, but we spent time together, my wife. And he talked about how nothing was going to defeat him. How whether he walked again or not, he was not going to give up. We talked about a psalm in my church,

our church, Father, based on the 23rd psalm. May he raise you up in eagle's wings and bear you on the breath of dawn until we keep you in, until we hold you in the palm of his hand until we meet again. Well, I think, Alderman, what's been unleashed with a lot of people is they understand that fear doesn't solve problems. Only hope does. And if you give up hope, you might as well surrender.

There's no real option. And as we talked, I listened to his mom. She was on the phone. She wasn't with Jacob. She was in the same location. And his, as I said, his dad, his son, his brother, two sisters, and a family lawyer, two family lawyers were there. And what I came away with was the overwhelming sense of resilience and optimism that they have about the kind of response they're getting. My wife asked to say a prayer, and his mom said a prayer. She said, I'm praying for Jacob, and I'm praying for the policemen as well. I'm praying that things change. Let's go to my pound, Dr. Greg Carr,

Chair, Department of Afro-American Studies at Howard University, Recy Colbert, Black Women's Views. Erica Savage-Wilson, host of Savage Politics Podcast. Greg, I'll start with you. What we saw today is how presidents are supposed to behave. That when you have a shooting like in the case of Jacob Blake, and you have community unrest, one of the things you do is you go to that city and you meet with the family. You actually meet with the community.

When Donald Trump goes to Kenosha, he meets with law enforcement, slaps them on the back, and it's all about law enforcement, law enforcement, law enforcement. In fact, it was quite interesting because normally I ignore her idiotic tweets, But today I really had no choice. But Romney McDaniel, she dropped the Romney name because Trump told her to, because he did not like the fact that she is related to Mitt Romney. And she obliged. So she sends this tweet out that, to me, speaks all you need to know about the Republican Party in all of this. In her particular tweet, she says, let me do this here. I'm going to blow it up so y'all can just see this here. And I had to respond to her idiotic tweet. But she said, Greg, she says,

criticizing the media. After all of the phony media criticism of the sitting president for visiting Kenosha to stand with the city and law enforcement, where's all the criticism of Joe Biden for hypocritically traveling there for a political event? Trump didn't go standing with the city. He ignored the city.

In fact, when he stood in front of that pile of rubble, one of the people wasn't even the owner of the building for the photo op. He used to own the building. The current owner wouldn't stand there with Trump. In moments like this, you need a president who is empathetic, who is sympathetic,

and not a brutal thug. Or not. Or not. I mean, clearly, the United States of America has never and never can say this enough. It's an imaginary construct. It is a state. It has is supposed to have rules. But in fact, as a nation, that's an idea. It's an aspirational kind of thing. And what we're seeing now is that the white nationalist party, that I will no longer refer to as the Republican Party, as long as they are open white nationalist terrorists, they will be the white nationalist party, they have openly embraced the idea that their definition

of America doesn't include you, Roland. It doesn't include me. It doesn't you, Roland. It doesn't include me. It doesn't include Risi. It does not include anyone. Doesn't include Erica. Doesn't include any of us. And what Donald Trump did was go to Kenosha and reinforce his message. There are no rules when it comes to maintaining white power.

Just like he told the folks in Wilmington, North Carolina, home of the first coup d'etat and only successful coup d'etat in American history, that they need to, in North Carolina, vote twice if they're going to try to check the vote with him. And his toady attorney general backed him up in terms of saying that there's voter fraud. They are engaged in an all-out war to maintain power. Kenosha has about 100,000 citizens. About 12 percent, maybe 12,000 or so, are people of African descent. And one of the reports I was reading today talks about the fact that some of those younger

people in Kenosha are like, we don't know if we're going to vote or not because our votes don't count. They don't matter. And I think part of that frustration comes from the fact that they have expectations of a president, of a Senate delegation. You saw Reince Priebus, that stooge, that boop-boop-licking stooge, was there with Trump the other day after the way Trump kicked him all up in his behind. I'm surprised they didn't dig out that punk ball Ryan to come out. But they are saluting the flag of

white nationalism. They are not saluting the flag of the United States. And as long as we have those two things confused, we'll continue to be bemused. They're going to pull out all the stakes to maintain power. Eric, again, when you see this, when you see the fact that Biden chooses to meet with community leaders, take questions from them, that's important because you want the people to speak to those who are in power. I haven't seen Ron Johnson, Republican United States Senator from Wisconsin, do that. In fact, if the member of Congress who represents Kenosha, who's Republican, had any credibility, he would have been there with Joe Biden saying, if you're coming into my district to talk to my constituents, then I'm going to be there with you. No, but he was there holding Donald Trump's coat yesterday, excuse me, Tuesday when he visited. Right. And he's probably too busy booking his next trip to Moscow. I agree with everything that Dr. Carr

said. We have seen just very recently with the Republican National Convention exactly who this party has acquiesced to. They've acquiesced to the son of a Klansman. And so he also is shrouded in power by law enforcement officers, which is why he went and tipped his hat to them and returned back to Washington, D.C. So look, this isn't really about a vote, whether or not people are going to vote. People need to vote, no matter what party they're affiliated with, to ensure that all semblance of democracy that we have remaining, that we're able to build upon that. We saw in the Democratic National Convention that that convention centered people. It centered the now

185 plus thousand Americans that have passed away due to COVID and the millions more that are grieving and unable to grieve in person because this son of a Klansman, who is the leader of these United States by voter suppression and foreign interference due to Russia, has completely abdicated his duty. And he's only in it to continue to be an emoluments president, that is, to continue to line his pockets, that of his family, and to continue to connect with Russia to make sure that this election is rigged in his favor. So, you know, what we saw by former Vice President Joe Biden and his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, who spent more than nine years going across all 50 states and talking with, along with our forever First Lady Michelle O'Biden,

veterans' families and improving their life conditions to ensure things such as when spouses have to move to different states, that their licenses, that they're able to transfer those licenses and get back into the business of providing for their family while their military member serves. So we just see a real contrast in leadership. And this is what people are voting for. They're voting for consistent, empath are voting for. They're voting for consistent, empathetic leadership, or they're voting for a dictator, meaning that they're

either casting a vote or they've made a decision not to vote at all. Risi, when you see what's going on here, again, Donald Trump's visit there, I ain't talking to black people, that was appealing to white people, especially white suburban women, because what he's saying is fear, fear, they're coming to get you, fear, they're coming after you, and I am your only savior. I am the white savior for the white woman. That's what Donald Trump really was saying. Right. Yeah, right. Well, and he has a very powerful ally in the mainstream media that is very interested in making this a horse race, that is very interested in actually bolstering Trump's case that this country is in chaos, which to some degree it is because we have a pandemic that Donald Trump is completely apathetic to, not because of all this supposed looting and rioting, which actually isn't happening. And so he definitely has a lot of help in that is, what we all kind of, most of us at least, buy into of what a president's supposed to do, and which is being a consoler-in-chief.

And I appreciate it, you know, that he didn't outsource this to Senator Kamala Harris. Y'all know I'm team Kamala. But, you know, Biden himself actually needed to go there and be presidential and fill that void that Donald Trump is completely lacking in. And so I was actually, I'm not easily impressed, but I was actually impressed with the empathy that he displayed, that he didn't put his foot in his mouth. That's a low bar, but I think that he really did capture the mood.

You didn't play remarks about him condemning, mooting and all that kind of stuff. I would prefer for him to back off of that kind of rhetoric. But in terms of what, you know, he he he did with that particular performance, I thought that that not performance, but appearance. I thought that that was really helpful. Well, again, I mean, that's what you expect when you have situations like this here. Biden did drop a new ad today. When let's go ahead and get that ad. There were a couple of ads, one dropped

today, one yesterday. The first one speaks to this particular issue of what African-Americans go through in this country. Again, it is an ad you will never see Donald Trump or the Republicans drop, folks. If you know, that's not it, folks. Y'all don't have it queued up right. So get the right ad up, please. And it was it was when I saw it, I said, you know what? This is exactly the kind of ad that you should have on this day. I'm just going to go ahead and play it myself, folks. And so it is called We're Listening. It's called We're Listening, Joe Biden. Go ahead. Go ahead and take it. Take it from my iPad, please. Wake up knowing that they can lose their life in the course of just living their life.

Part of the point of freedom is to be free from brutality, from injustice, from racism and all of its manifestations. We have to let people know that we not only understand their struggle, but they understand the fact they deserve to be treated with dignity. They've got to know we're listening. Reforming policing in this country means creating a national standard on use of force and conditioning federal funds for police departments on adoption of that standard. It's about reining in qualified immunity. We hold police officers accountable. We can't turn away.

Now is the time for racial justice. I believe with every fiber in my being, we have such an opportunity now to change people's lives for the better. It's about who we are, what we believe, and maybe most importantly, who we want to be. Now, that was the ad that dropped today that dealt with that issue. Now, there was one that dropped yesterday that spoke to the issues of housing in this country,

something as important as we're dealing with massive evictions taking place across the country. Watch this one, folks. We're going to comment when we come back. There are streets that run through American cities that have served as dividing lines between communities for generations. On one side of the line, a predominantly white neighborhood. On the other side, a predominantly black neighborhood. If you live on one side of that line, your family is 10 times as wealthy than if you lived on the other side of that line. On one side, your home is valued at tens of thousands of dollars more than if you live on the other side of that line. A big part of what has kept black Americans from having the same opportunities as white Americans have been those red lines. And sadly, they aren't gone yet.

So how do we get here? Those dividing lines were drawn on the maps of American cities starting back in the 1930s. Following the Great Depression, the Home Owners Loan Corporation created maps of major American cities that established predominantly white neighborhoods as areas for better investment than predominantly black neighborhoods. They marked red lines around black neighborhoods, establishing them as hazards. While white families were able to own homes and acquire wealth, black families were unable to secure the loans they needed to buy a home and live out the American dream. In 2017, a study

showed that only 43% of Black adults in the U.S. owned a home. That's compared to 72% of white adults. We need to change that, and we can. We need to make it so that no matter what side of that street you grew up on, no matter if you're Black or if you're white, you're able to live in a good house and your family's able to build wealth for generations. That's why Joe Biden's proposing that we eliminate all regulations at the state and local level that perpetuate racism, that we create a $15,000 new homeowner's tax credit to bring in people who've historically been left out of housing opportunities. Joe will make sure that we hold financial institutions accountable for discriminatory

practices in lending. Joe will establish a rental tax credit to ensure that no family spends more than 30% of their income on rent. Every kid deserves to grow up in a good home in a safe neighborhood. And most importantly, it'll ensure that a red line doesn't determine your opportunities in life. We can tackle our country's housing crisis together and give every American the housing security they deserve. Recy, I'll start with you. Your thoughts on those two ads. I thought that they were great ads. I think that ultimately black voters want to hear some

sort of economic agenda, some sort of housing agenda. Climate change is another issue. Education. So I do like the substance of the Redlining Act. I did recognize Kamala's Rent Relief Act as part of that 30 percent tax credit. So I do believe that the Biden-Harris administration is completely sincere and will take swift action to close the home ownership gap for Black Americans. And the other ad I thought was good as well. But honestly, I do think that the more powerful message is the economic agenda, particularly with Black male voters. I think that the economic agenda will resonate more. I would like to see them harp on that a little bit more instead of, I don't want to say instead of, but I would say in addition to this focus on police brutality, because to be honest,

I don't think that we're going to be able to convince the black community for good reason that there's going to be this massive change in police accountability. But at least if people feel like I'll get a home or I'll get a job, I'll get health care, that would be something that's more persuasive. Well, as we discussed yesterday, Greg, the reality is that if you're everybody, every black person, criminal justice is not the number one issue. And so when you're talking to black people, you've got to talk to black people like you talk to white people.

You talk to black people about homes. You talk to black people about the environment. You talk to black people about health and safety and any number of things. And so you have to have multiple messages when you're talking to African-Americans. It's true. And that's the conventional wisdom. I couldn't agree with Risi more, including your previous comments. You know, there's a little bar for Joe Biden and we hope he doesn't trip over it. He didn't trip over today, and that's good. But, you know, the Democrats are hewing to a time-honored tradition, one that might make them lose this election. This whole idea of pursuing a kind of triangulation

strategy where you're just black enough to try to attract those middle-class, working-class black voters who are more likely to vote, but you don't offend those imaginary white voters who are never coming back, because if only white people voted in American elections, the Democrats would probably never win another national election. That having been said, you know, I agree with Risi. I mean, we have to deal with this question of police brutality, and it isn't an issue for every black person until they're stopped by the police.

But the idea, and Reverend Barber says this so often, saying the word poor, that's a four-letter word in American politics. It's the third real American politics. Most black people are worried about, well, they're going to get put out rolling. This can't be overstressed, what you just said. There are people being put in the streets. They're not worried about being able to get a $15,000 tax, tax credit, to get a, they're worried about their stuff is going to be in the street in September. And so one of these days, the Democratic Party or some

political party is going to address the vast majority of people in this country who are the poor. And the Democrats seem to be determined to go down this road. And once again, there's 100,000 people in Kenosha, 12,000 of them are black. Donald Trump, to put the point that Erica said earlier, Donald Trump got that election close enough to steal in Wisconsin. He won by 23,000 votes with a combination of voter suppression, spoiling cast ballots and mail-in ballots. And they're going to try to get it close enough to steal again.

And the people who are going to put him over the top aren't those people who were going to vote anyway. You've got to grow this electorate. He's rallying his troops. I don't know when the Democrats are going to decide to rally theirs. One of the issues that obviously is at play here is COVID-19. As of today, six million cases of COVID-19 in the United States, 186,000 people have died from the disease. Public health officials in all 50 states and five large cities have been notified by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They are to prepare to distribute a vaccine for coronavirus to healthcare workers and other high risk groups

as soon as late October or early November. This past week, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert, and Dr. Stephen Hahn, the head of the Food and Drug Administration, have said that a vaccine may be available for certain groups before the clinical trials are completed. That is only if the data is overwhelmingly positive. Joining us right now is Dr. Tyson Bell, critical care infectious disease specialist, University of Virginia.

Doc, do you buy this nonsense? Do you buy it? I call it nonsense regarding this here because Trump desperately wants to rush out with something before the election to show, oh, I'm paying attention to this at a whole plasma, you know, news conference. That was a joke as well. And the FDA had to come back and apologize for it. Are people in the medical community actually buying this? I think there's a lot of skepticism rolling, honestly, because this administration has made it clear that they want to have a vaccine out and available before the election. And unfortunately, the FDA and the CDC have both put out signals that they've been bending to political pressure. So we do think that this is an ambitious timeline. Of course, if there is something could be ready and available by early, late October, early November, that would be great. But based on their enrollment, the pace of enrollment now and the approval process, that's incredibly ambitious. So there is some skepticism.

So this supposed this supposed vaccine will be first for health care workers like you. Will you take a vaccine without having knowing the clinical trial results uh well that's an important question because there is an approval process that the fda goes through and there's two different main approval pathways one is the emergency authorization this is the way that convalescent plasma and hydroxychloroquine were approved. And you see how, at least for hydroxychloroquine, that was revoked. It's a lower standard of evidence to get a product on the market under the guise that you have to get something out there quickly before all the evidence is available. It would be much better to get it fully licensed before distributing it to billions of people,

billions would it be, because we have to be absolutely sure that something that we're giving to healthy people is not going to make them sick. Well, and the thing here again, you know, Fauci has been saying for the longest, take your time going through this. Trump is saying rush, rush, rush. I'll be honest. I don't trust anything from the FDA. I don't. I don't trust anything Han says because they are they are bowing to the pressure from Trump. And I can't look to them as a credible, fair source, knowing full well the kind of pressure he's exerted them to skip oversteps, skip processes, throw them out the window in order to fit his narrative? I think there are a lot of issues here with erosion of public trust in our institutions. And, you know, our thought was, you know, that the FDA and the CDC were public health professionals that made their careers would not succumb to these sort of pressures. I want to point to comments by Peter Marks, who heads the FDA

Division on Vaccine Development. He has indicated publicly that if he felt that the FDA was succumbing to public pressure, that he would resign. Now, the FDA, before they approve a product like the vaccine, they listen to an advisory committee that's made up of independent experts around the country. It's called the Vaccine and Biological Related Products Committee. So if an approval comes, this committee will review the results of the clinical trials and give a recommendation. The FDA follows through with it. Their next meeting is scheduled for October 22nd. It's a public meeting. I think this will be an important way to see if they are working to see what data is available, if there is any data available, and to make sure that we're going through and following the science.

This is one instance, Roland, where we absolutely cannot put the politics before the science. And again, I mean, you don't I mean, look, you're already dealing with a with a disease that, frankly, health people have no idea how it really affects us. You've got these sports leagues, these conferences in college. I saw the Penn State head of medicine saying that of the players that tested positive, showing inflammation around the heart tied to a particular disease as well. And folks just don't know. And I'm sorry, I just can't for the life of me.

I can't listen to anything that comes out of Donald Trump or Mike Pence's mouth where the public can say, oh, rest assured, the federal government has done what it's supposed to do when it comes to this vaccine to make sure it is safe. No, he wants to be able to say, I did it. I did it. I did it. See, I'm trying to save Americans. And so they won it out a week before the election, not not caring what happens, frankly, to people after the election. They just want to win. Yeah, we have to make sure that we follow the science role. And I can't stress it enough that we've had several instances now where that comes into question. And through different pandemics and public health crises, we've always had the trust of the CDC, the NIH, and the FDA to do what's right as far as the science. No one ever gets everything right, but we trust that we're following the science and not getting into political pressure.

And unfortunately, we're in a different time now with a different president. And we just have to make sure that as public health professionals, that we're being diligent with the science, that we're messaging people appropriately on forums like this so that when there is a product available, we can be sure that it's going to be safe for people. All right, then. Well, look, I mean, I think again, what our goal, very simple, is to ensure that our folks are safe. And, you know, I just wish, you know, you had people of courage who have the audacity to tell Donald Trump no. Then if he said, I'll fire you, they would say, fine, fire me. But I have to do this for the good of the American people. All right,

rolling with something's out. Call me again and we'll talk. All right. Dr. Tyson, Bill, we appreciate the man. Thanks a lot. Thank you. All right.

Erica, I don't, I don't, I don't trust, I don't trust the administration. I don't know. And none of us have any. Yeah,

I don't either. When you think about to the partnership that this administration afforded a Pfizer and a Moderna, both of these Oregon, billions of dollars in federal money to receive this vaccine, a vaccine B. And interestingly enough, thinking about the population that's going to be impacted by this, the lion's share of service workers are black, brown and people of color so that they're going to be subjected to maybe one or two of these differing vaccines, courtesy of the Trump administration, whose real focus is the economy by way of the stock market, which we all know the stock market is not the economy.

And so because this administration has not, in fact, been truthful, that they have weaponized the Department of Health, DHS, HHS, excuse me, that they've weaponized the FDA. When you think about parts of the CDC that have been weaponized, that we just can't trust because they've not laid out a national strategy. But what they have, in fact, done is skipped over to say, OK, so 186,000 souls have gone, but you know what? We have the answer to it, and we're probably going to have it ready early November, November 2nd. When you have a November 3rd general election, I would say to people, this same person that bragged about being able to remember words that are related to a test for people that unfortunately are experiencing

dementia, that this very same person that said it was like magic, it was going to go away, that people not be tricked, that people follow the money and actually listen to the science of what people and what we need to do as a nation to actually curb the spread of COVID and be diligent in waiting for a vaccine that is going to take at least 18 months to two years plus, as the science has shared with us. I ain't got no faith in these folk at all, Recy. I don't either.

And I think that it's very rational to be skeptical or even cynical about this administration's motivations, especially how they have rushed these so-called treatments that aren't in fact treatments to hospitals. However, I do believe in following the science, and I think I will reserve judgment until we actually have something. At this point, it just appears to be more of a publicity stunt, a PR campaign to try to make it seem like Trump has it all under control. But I mean, I don't believe for any reason, for any second that the United States would be the first to have a vaccine when there's a collective of 170 nations, including the World Health Organization, that is a collaborative on getting a vaccine, which the United States has declined to join. And so I know one thing that's for damn sure, if they don't have the vaccine and Trump puts out a vaccine, I will not be taking that. But I still urge everybody to follow the science and hope, and not just hope, but critically assess whether or not the science is the one that's leading the charge on this vaccine push

or if it's propaganda and the Trump campaign wanted to be reelected. The thing for me, Greg, is, again, I'm not afraid of a vaccine. I'm not one of these anti-vaxxers. I just don't trust these SOBs. And the media is falling for this. Man, ain't no way in hell this vaccine going to be ready before the election. No, of course not. And one of the things

I really appreciate, and I think we all I'm sure appreciate about your interview with Dr. Bell, is that you asked him straightforward. And he, as a medical professional and a scientist, could not say what his silence was telling. You asked him, you going to take it?

And he said, well, you know, we're going to see. We're going to follow the science. And, yeah, follow the science is like rule of law. It sounds good in theory. The American presidency has become more and more an imperial presidency, really since the Vietnam era, since the Nixon administration. The courts have kind of abdicated their role. The federal legislature has not served as a check on power. And so, you know,

I'm reading a book by Ryan Alford called Permanent State of Emergency. And one of the things that Alford talks about is the fact that what we have now in America prior to Donald Trump, really, is in some ways an elected dictatorship. The executive branch has kind of overflown its boundaries. So now when you have a consigliere like Todi Barr at the attorney general's office, I mean, you saw the news today that broke that they want to now prosecute Google and Google's parent company Alphabet for antitrust violations. They want to get that in the pipeline.

Now Barr is overruling career prosecutors at the Department of Justice because they want to get it done before November. There is absolutely no way there's going to be a vaccine. And like you, I'm not putting anything in my arm with a memory of Tuskegee and Henrietta Lacks and what happened to Johns Hopkins, the body snatchers of the cadavers. No, hell no. And in fact, whether a vaccine comes or not, I'm not an anti-vaxxer either. God knows. But we all know that this is being driven to Reese's point and to Erica's point. This is being driven by politics. You can't trust these people. throw the boundaries of its authority through the steady erosion of the rule of law in the judiciary and the federal legislatures abandoning their oversight, then you end up, when you've got a white nationalist, a fascist, and his toady consigliere at the attorney general's office, hey, hold on for all your life, because they're not making any decisions in the best

interest of anything other than, as Erica said, the criminal enterprise called Trump Incorporated and the white nationalists who are getting their judges on the benches and getting to pursue their agendas. But we are an afterthought, and they will throw us in the trash, brother. Folks, let's go to Rochester, New York. Seven cops there have been suspended with pay over the death of a black man who suffocated after he was detained and a hood placed over his head. The incident took place March 23rd.

Daniel Prude was having a mental health episode, and his brother, Joseph, called the Rochester Police Department for help. Instead of receiving help, Prude's head was covered with a spit sock and held to the ground for two minutes before he stopped breathing. Now, again, we are warning you right now, if you need to, turn away from watching this video. It's triggering for some people because we're a news show. We show these videos because this is what we have to do. Press play. I mean, I'm already in. I got sick. Stop. Calm down. Stop.

Calm down. Calm down, man. I mean it. Get some food. Get some food. Get the fuck out of here. Scoop crazy. Scoop crazy.

Calm down, man. Relax, dude. Okay. I mean it. I mean it. I mean it. I mean it. He was taken to the hospital 15 minutes later and declared brain dead. His death received no public attention until the video was released. The biocamera video was released by his brother, Joseph.

He spoke about his brother being killed by the Rochester cops. It's like bringing to the attention of the city. killed by the Rochester cops. That was a full-fledged, ongoing murder, cold-blooded, none other than cold-blooded murder. How did you see him and not be directly saved? The man is defensive, butt naked on the ground. He's cuffed up already. I mean, come on. How many more brothers got to die for society to understand that this needs to stop? And I can't even share with y'all the pain that

i'm feeling and my family is going through as well these things that's going on right now more or less to say who can we hold accountable for this why was it a cover-up why did my brother get harmed when he complied with everything that them people wanted him to do? Why did he get treated like an African American male from 1960? That's a case of treating yourself like a damn doggone. But my true feelings right now? Yo, I can't... I'm trying, but it's like... This... I'm trying to treat somebody unhumane like that.

If I kill a police, what is my sentence? Is it my sentence because I'm a black man? That's a hundred over my head. Has to be difficult, Reesey, for this man who called the cops and his brother is now dead. And this is the thing that black people fear, that we can't even call the cops for protection because they might end up killing one of our loved ones. Right. I mean, it's just it's inhumane, like his brother said. I mean, the notion that somebody who's suffocating to death is going to be calm. It's just it's this is just it's just it's tragic.

It's it's lynching, as he put it. It's an execution. And, you know, they're treating it as if it's a joke, telling him to calm down. What in the hell is the reason for having his face, you know, completely covered like that? It's just it's appalling on every level. And it's unfair to black families to not have the ability to call people who are supposed to protect and serve. And this is why people stay deep on the police and have people who are trained as mental health professionals to respond to these situations

instead of the police who escalate and murder and lynch black people who are actually in desperate need of help. It's just, it's heartbreaking. I don't understand the logic at all anywhere in this, Erica i don't first of all if you're trying the guy's naked and you put something over his head okay what was he biting the cops was he i mean why would you put something over his head and then hold it

and the guy suffocates i'm like the i'm trying to figure out where in police training is that in the manual? Well, perhaps the part where they use black faces as shooting targets. We've seen that over the years where they're literal black and brown faces, particularly the faces of black men that have been used as shooting targets. This is nothing, nothing out of the unusual for the slave patrols. These cops are taxpayer-funded servants, and they're actually functioning as mercenaries. So when people say that they're not going to get engaged in this election, the hell you won't. You know, it's not going to solve this immediate issue that we've been seeing in our communities for centuries. This is not something that is not new to our community. But what it is is that it's serving now that it's on video and replay.

You can't tell me that these militia groups, that these thugs, that these white nationalists, that these white domestic terrorists, that they thugs, that these white nationalists, that these white domestic terrorists, that they aren't enjoying what they're doing is bloodsport. So, again, I completely agree with Recy. Defund the Police has a very, very in-depth meeting because when you think about mental health crises and how much black communities suffer so much more, when you think about the PTSD that has been passed down from generation to generation, most recent generation to bear witness to it, Jacob Blake's

children who bore witness to their father being shot by slave patrols, by trash. And so when we consider and think about all this and that the person that is occupying the White House because of Russian interference and voter suppression, actually took his mediocre self to the Kenosha, Wisconsin, to pat on the back other Klansmen. This is what it is, America. This is what has always been for the black community. We've never been able to call the police and get that kind of assistance that his brother got at one time when his brother had a mental break and that this black man died in humiliation and that this was treated like nothing. And here we are discussing it in September, less than 60 days away from an election. You know, there is a lot that black people have the right to be angry about. And this is absolutely one of the reasons why there is this

misstruct and disconnect in the community when we continue to see these taxpayer funded service being held above reproach and that it is consolidated by, as who Dr. Carr calls a toady, most appropriate, the United States Attorney General, William Barr. Greg, the cop said he was spitting. okay, but you don't put something over his head and then hold it tight where a person can't breathe. I mean, if a person kept spitting, you can actually put something over somebody's head and you're not tightening it where they can't breathe. But even still, the guy's dead. You're complaining that he was spitting. He's dead. You're complaining that he was spitting. He's dead.

Roland, and this is all the viewers who are watching again. What makes this platform you've built unfortunately unique? Because this is the way, you know, as Rishi said, this is the way all news media should be, is that you articulate a moral standard. What you just said is a moral standard. It does not apply to these less than, well, these people who are behaving less than, in a way that makes them less than human. But it is a moral standard, and it's one we should aspire to, and it's one we should require, particularly of public, quote unquote, servants. But what we just heard Erica say, I think that really frames it perfectly and it needs

to resonate. You gotta go watch this again, play that back and play it for your children tonight. Because Erica, you really framed what we are facing. When this brother, when Daniel Prude was murdered and the medical examiner is saying that the cause of his death was in fact asphyxiation, although as with the medical examiner report in the case of George Floyd, he talks about the PCC possibly and some other thing, certainly the excited delirium, you know, that is a contributing factor. But those police murdered that man.

You know, where he died, and mind you now, this is a couple of weeks when he was killed, about two weeks before Breonna Taylor was executed. It's about maybe a week and a half after Ahmaud Arbery was executed. We're just getting the video. But where he died is only a few miles away from where Frederick Douglass is buried. Frederick Douglass is buried in Rochester. Fred Douglass said in the 19th century, he, and I'll say he or she who is whipped easiest is whipped oftenest.

In other words, this is going to stop when we stop it. And so when this video came out, now you have no choice. So the sister, Lovely Warren, who I believe you had on your show, she suspended the seven police officers. The sister, who is the attorney general in New York, Letitia James, said, told the family we're going to investigate. And now Cuomo wants to come out and say he's deeply disturbed. Save your disturbance for you and Susan Collins. Y'all can be disturbed together. But this is going to turn on when we stop it.

Now that means we do have to vote for mayors. You got two black women involved in this. You got a black woman mayor and you got a black woman attorney general. That doesn't mean that Lovely Warren hasn't had clashes with black folks in Rochester, because one of the things black folks in Rochester have been telling Lovely Warren since she's been in office is that your police force has been against us. They've been committing war. So black elected officials, this murder happened in March. You shouldn't have to wait for a video. But I really encourage folks to go back and listen to what Erica just said, because you framed it

perfectly. These people are our open enemies. And ain't no flag, and ain't no oath, and ain't no constitution, and ain't no framework of imaginary, mythical United States ever going to change anything about the fact that those are our open enemies. And they're not only enemies of black people. They are the enemies of humanity, these fascists. This reminds me of what happened in Dallas. Again, what happens, there was the mother who called the police because she just could not control her mentally disabled son, and he was fascinated by a screwdriver.

He was fascinated by a screwdriver. This is that video there, and again, this is what happens when you talk about making that call. So just watch this. I didn't want to spend the money. Hello? How you doing, man? What's going on? Who's that? I'm chopping up people in the sun.

What's going on? Drop that for me. Drop that for me, guy. Drop it! Drop it! Oh, you can't look down! Oh, you can't look down! Drop it! Shots fired.

This right here, this black mother calls the police. Y'all, he did not charge the cops. I timed it. From the moment the door opens to the first shot is fired is 12 seconds. It was 12 seconds. This was the body cam footage there. That mother now has to live for the rest of her life. No, pull it back. For the rest of her life, knowing that her actions calling the cops

leads to the death of her son. This is the same what happened to Kojima Powell in St. Louis after Mike Brown had been killed. People, they said, clearly mentally disturbed. It was 16 seconds from the moment that door opened to the cops fired. This is why. This right here.

To all the people, Congressman Jim Clyburn, Joe Biden, and all these Democrats out here who keep saying they are against defund the police. No. Right. These actions is why in San Francisco, the the mayor said in a lot of these cases we're going to send mental health professionals to the scene before cops to deal with this so you don't end up with this happening it y'all heard you heard that video 12 seconds from the mama opened the door and y'all saw y'all this is what he was doing

sir put that down put that down sir put it down. Bang, bang, bang. He didn't do this. He didn't come charting at the cops. He literally was just doing this. So for everybody, Erica, who doesn't understand defund the police, what they're saying is shift resources away from cops so when a mother like that calls and says i have a son who's mentally disabled and there's some issues they're not going to send trigger-happy cops first right defund the police means that the police have too much budget power when you look at your individual municipality and you look at the

budget for that city and you look to see the amount that is allocated for law enforcement, for them to have a presence in schools, though we are seeing the impact of COVID. And so there are some schools opening, are some schools opening. But think about their footprint within our children's school, that they have too much consolidated power. They represent too much of the budget. And so when we see that those resources are moved to do what David Dinkins did back in his time when he was mayor of New York City, to see that he ordered that there be community policing and that these people that are policing the communities live in New York City, that they're not coming in from Staten Island and from Long Island thinking that they are going to make sure that these animals are kept caged and that they're abiding and doing what they're supposed to be doing.

That is not the type of policing. And then we saw that Rudy Giuliani came into office and he split the switch, gave back the power to police and said, nope, that's not the model that we want to have. So that is the model of defund the police. That's exactly what it means. And the name does not need to change because, see, these people, once you hit them in the pocket, once they understand that if they do deploy their firearm, that there are going to be immediate consequences, that they will not go home and be placed on administrative leave, that they do understand that that body cam footage is due at the time that they return back from wherever it was and they engaged in violence. When they understand that their pension is on the line, which you and many others have talked about this, Roland, on this show frequently, when they see that there's going to be financial and civil consequences to their happy-go-lucky deployment of weapons, particularly as it concerns black and brown communities, that'll change the game.

Greg, these two cases, this is the evidence. We have people with mental health issues, and you cannot be sending individuals who are given the authority to use deadly force to deal with those issues. No, I want to raise a name that everyone should write down. Andrew Hutchins. That was the devil that killed that woman's child. She's wailing, oh, he didn't kill my son, he didn't kill my child.

That devil, that devil, D-E-V-I-L, Andrew Hutchins. Andrew Hutchins was not charged. He was cleared by a Dallas County grand jury. The police are out of control. Andrew Hutchins shouldn't be able to walk the streets. You see, when a white man or white woman or a Negro who's out of his or her mind comes to someone's home and executes a human being, they have given up any right to be called human. In fact, what they, you know, I'm anti-death penalty, except perhaps in cases like this. And I'm saying it might even have to be a summary judgment. Because what would be the day you pull

your pistol out and execute a man in his doorstep in front of his mom and somebody run up behind you and blow all your brains out of your head? Because what you need to understand is that this is not going to stop until we stop it. Now, he's either going to be the ballot box or we're going to be warring in the streets of the United States of America. Roland, you treated something earlier today, brother. Is it true that the governor of that rogue state of Texas, Abbott, is considering trying to take control of the local police?

Austin Police Department. Austin Police Department. That has had major, major issues with shootings. Yeah. I've never heard of a governor taking over a police department.

I haven't heard. I don't know what statutory authority exists there. Haven't heard that one. I know the state can take over school boards. I ain't never heard them taking over police department receive This is again. This is what? When you listen to people who are not no no no we're not doing that because that's a reaction to white people That's a reaction to scaring white people. No, we're gonna use that phrase number. Not gonna defund. We're gonna reform

No defund means we do. When when when when in Seattle, the black police chief, she got all ticked off when they reduce her budget by one damn percent. Mm hmm. She got pissed and resigned because the council dared to reduce her budget by one measly percent. They forced them to say, wait a minute, why in the hell are we using cops to hand out parking tickets? Right. They said, wait a minute, let's study the functions that we now have given law enforcement. Wait a minute.

Stop the people. You're passing out tickets, parking tickets on expired meters, and you're using cops. No, that's what the police is. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah. And I just want to circle back around to the the program that you mentioned earlier from Mayor London Breed, a black woman in San Francisco, is a perfect example of why representation matters, why it matters to have black elected officials with the political will to go against very powerful forces like the San Francisco PD. The pilot program that she announced is actually a program that only costs $16 million. I don't know off the top of my head

what the budget is for the San Francisco PD is, but I'd imagine it's exponentially larger. And what her program is, it's a paramedic and public health-led team to assist people experiencing behavioral health emergencies and actually making sure that instead of clogging up the emergency rooms, that they create mental health facilities to deal with these kind of emergencies so that you would not have situations that we just saw where these are nonviolent mental health crises that these people are experiencing, and they're not violent until the police show up. And so that is what we need more of. But we also have a responsibility ourselves to make these demands of our elected officials. We have a responsibility ourselves to vote, to attend our, you know, to hold our county officials, our city officials accountable, and to make sure that they stand up and they put these budget priorities in their budgets. Because at the end of the day, the police department does not set their budget.

I was just playing out with the Seattle police chief. The city does, or the county does. And so those elected officials are the ones that need to be held accountable. Unfortunately, you know, the cops are out of control. I don't have any solutions for that. But in terms of this whole defund the police or whatever you want to call it, there are tangible steps that can be taken by people who are not police officers to minimize these kinds of situations. All right, folks, gotta go to break. When we come back, we'll talk about

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The United States has imposed sanctions on senior officials in the International Criminal Court, including Chief Prosecutor Fatou Bensouda. The ICC in The Hague has been part of the global justice system since 2002, but its concentration on African nations has led to accusations of bias. Bensouda brought in ICC's investigations to include conflicts elsewhere, which angered the United States. Joining me now to talk about this very issue and what this means is James Davis. He's a global sanctions attorney for American Express and national security and foreign affairs legal analyst, Johanna LeBlanc. Johanna, we'll start with you. What people may not understand, again,

on the international stage, the United States has two really focuses, one for y'all, one for us. And so the United States is not actually a part of this ICC, correct? Correct. And that's because the United States is the United States, Russia and China. Those are the three countries that are not apart. And so they but they want other people held accountable, but they don't want to be included if they get investigated, correct? Perhaps, perhaps. So, Roland, what's happening here is that the United States contends that it is not a party to the Rome Statute, which would have given the International Criminal Court jurisdiction over matters regarding war crimes, right? So here we have the United States government who has been accused, well, the United States military has been accused of war crimes in Afghanistan

and other places. So the ICC has launched an investigation. So the U.S. is saying, no, you can't do that because you don't have jurisdiction over this matter. But, you know, I think in a sense, it is setting some kind of, you know, bad precedent because you have countries like Venezuela and many others that are currently being investigated. Now, what if they, too, start saying, you know, don't touch me? You know, while those countries are a part of the Rome Statute. They did ratify. However, the point I'm trying to make is that

because the United States is a superpower, when the United States behave a certain way, other countries tend to follow suit, right? But I don't think this is good for the United States because if the United States is saying that you don't have jurisdiction over our country, what this means is that I am not going to provide you with evidence that is needed for the investigation to be conducted properly. But regardless of the United States position,

the ICC will conduct its investigation and do what it needs to do under the Rome Statute. But on the other hand, the United States government, the ICC's final conclusion of the investigation will be one-sided, and the United States will not have an opportunity to present a case. Because let's be honest, who will compel the United States to hold over evidence that is needed for the purpose of this investigation? And in fact, the U.S. government has said, not only you don't have jurisdiction over me, but the chief prosecutor is corrupt. And therefore, I have slapped her with a sanction which will have significant implication because it ruins your credibility as a chief justice, a chief prosecutor, rather. First of all, James, the sanctions we're talking about, that has a negative impact on these individuals.

I mean, they show by freezing of assets. They can't even they can't even travel to the United States. You see, the reality is that... Hold on, John, one second. James, go ahead. Can you hear me? Yes. Yeah, go ahead. All right, great. Yeah. So this actually started two years ago. John Bolton, while he was serving as a national security advisor for Trump administration, had given a speech by the Federalist Society, September 10th, 2018, I believe was the date. In that speech, he specifically stated that any actions taken by the ICC with respect to the United States and this issue would be met with sanctions. And he was actually talking about

the judges at the time. The following year, April, I believe, March, actually 2019, Mike Pompeo made the same statement. In that same month, they actually revoked the visa for Ms. Bensadi. So she could not travel to the United States. Now, even with that restriction, she may have got an exception to come for meeting at the United Nations. I'm not really sure about that, but that is possible. So in June of this year, when Donald Trump issued his executive order, basically laying the groundwork for what we now know are the sanctions being named at the SDN list, the Specially Designated Nationals list, which I'll get to in a second, it was always kind of known this could happen.

And so it's not a surprise per se, but it is shocking because the steps they have taken are so far from the norm, which is the norm for this administration, to veer from the norm wildly, sanctions are generally used for terrorists, drug traffickers, rogue countries. They're not used in this manner in any sense of the word. And so it's a very provocative and, in my view, they used a broadsword, but they could have used a scalpel. Yeah, but what it is, is very clear, John, it is an intimidation tactic to target judges and the prosecutors. And again, what the United States is saying is that don't you dare even think about even looking at us, investigating anything. You cannot hold us accountable. We don't ascribe to any other authority but our own,

but the United States doesn't mind when the ICC holds other leaders accountable for their human rights violations. I agree. The United States has always supported the ICC when it wanted to investigate other nations. In fact, through the National Security Council, the United States has made recommendations to launch investigations into countries like Libya, for example. But I think what's problematic here

is that Secretary Michael Pompeo indicated that the sanctions have been slapped as a result of corrupt practices and so forth. And the unfortunate reality is that when it comes to these sanctions, you don't have to be convicted by a court in order for these sanctions to apply. A mere accusation with so-called evidence is sufficient for the United States government to slap individuals or countries with sanctions. But I think you are absolutely correct.

I think that countries in Africa, member states and other member states who have signed on to the Rome Statute, now they're asking themselves, is this a body of court that we should really, really subscribe to? And the reality is that the international court has issued a number of warrants, a number of ruling, and some have argued that they have no teeth. And what is the real meaning behind the ICC? And also I think with this particular decision,

we have to think about it. This is an election year. We have an election in November. The president wants to protect the troops, right? Because those are some of the folks who will be voting for him and so forth. But the reality is when the ICC conducts this investigation, they will find something.

So we will be better off as a nation to comply, to provide evidence, and at least we will have a voice in the matter. Because at this point, we will not have a voice. James, again, bottom line is, I think, when you look at a number of things, it's no different than the UN Security Council. You know, the United States has automatic veto.

So if every other country, if we do something egregious and every other country votes because we, one of several countries, with an automatic veto, we can stop anything that we don't like because of the automatic veto. This is an example of the United States saying there are, there's one set of rules for us and there are rules for the rest of y'all. Yeah, that's right. You know, sanctions are generally used when negotiations diplomatically are broken down and you want to force another party to the table. I don't really believe, based upon the history of our administration, that they even set down the table in the first place.

And so to use this method to get the attention of the ICC, again, it's beyond the norm, but it's also unnecessary. In fact, I don't know what Ms. Bensadu's contacts in the U.S. are, but if she has no contacts here in the U.S., family-wise, property, things of that nature, if she banks overseas, it may not even matter because it's really to restrict you from entering the U.S. financial system. If her lifestyle doesn't really touch or have a nexus to the U.S. financial system, she's not impacted by this. All right. We certainly appreciate it. James Davis, Johanna LeBlanc, thank you so very much. Thank you.

Greg, I want to go to you on this here. The point here is I think people need to understand out there how we in the United States, how boorish we are when it comes to the rest of the world. The United States does not like being held accountable by anybody. When Malcolm X was talking about going to the United Nations over the issue of racism in the 60s, the United States, absolutely not. When you look at how we condemn the Chinese for human rights violations, but we ignore our own police departments. And I remember when one of the Chinese for human rights violations, but we ignore our own police departments. And I remember when one of the Chinese presidents came to the United States and met with Bush, and they were bringing up what took place there, and he brought up racism in America.

He brought up police brutality in America. And then America was like, well, you know, that's not really the same. Yeah, actually the same it is the same you know when you have when you have these when you have these uh these pig laws down in louisiana where you have people brothers sitting there in prison uh for life for trying to steal shears that is the same as somebody being abused and mistreated in a prison in china or some other country absolutely roland i mean let's just be very clear as a matter of of history, and again, you're being very charitable, brother, and I understand and I admire that. I don't say we when we talk about the United States government, because I don't own that.

We have to struggle against that, the we meaning black people and people of goodwill. The United Nations was formed in 1945. Six years later, two of our frat brothers, in fact, W.E.B. Du Bois and Paul Robeson, along with Yslanda Robeson and Shirley Graham Du Bois and many others, William and Louise Patterson, many others, took a petition to the United Nations in New York and Geneva entitled We Charge Genocide. They said by the Genocide Convention that the United States had not signed by then. The United States is committing acts of genocide against black people. The United States has never wanted to participate in international bodies that it could not control, hence the creation of the UN Security Council. And it has refused

to be a signatory to a number of international agreements. Right before September 11, 2001, there was the World Conference Against Racism that Condoleezza Rice and Colin Powell, two fine examples of loyal Negroes to the United States government, tried to dissuade the United States from participating in, and black Americans like Conrad Wuerl being one, for example, went to the UN Conference Against Racism anyway. The problem they had was that Israel didn't like what was being discussed in terms of the war against the Palestinians, self-determination. So the International Criminal Court, which has its own problems now, as we heard, I mean,

Fatou Bensouda, who was out of the Gambia, the ICC has been accused, well, let's not even say accused. You look at the record. The only governments that they were able to go after were African governments, Democratic Republic of Congo, Rwanda, al-Bashir out of Sudan. They lost two cases. They lost the case in Lauren Bakbo in Cote d'Ivoire, and they lost against Kenyatta in Kenya. But the idea is, if this is going to be an international criminal court, it must apply to all nations. Now, when this punk, Mike, Mickey Pompous, Mike Pompeo, with his simple, always ending his sentences on it, we're not

going to go, because we're just saying that it's going to be OK. And, you know, listen, Mickey Pomp, you punk, you punk, you punk fake consulary, let's be very clear, all he's doing is backing up what the United States has done, but not only what it has done in the Trump administration, what it's done in the Obama administration, what it did in the George Bush administration. From the beginning of the International Criminal Court in 2002, the United States wanted to veto power because nobody can be held accountable in the United States. Finally, the only way to break this up is if the people of the United States understand that as long as we keep saying we and backing these people, it's not going to change.

We've got to change out all these elected officials. We've got to overrun these governments. Otherwise, that court is going to continue to be what it has been so far, which is a tool that can only be used against people who are powerless to stop it. Erica. Yeah, I agree. And when I look at one of the members of that particular court that really, really reframed the narrative and using of the word sanctions and the gentleman that spoke on the other panel before, he lined out what sanctions are.

And this court member so eloquently stated that it is actual U.S. coercion and so that they are not submitting to U.S. coercion. And that's what it is. That is calling a thing a thing. And particularly when we're talking about the United States and this corrupt regime. And for Mike Pompeo to really kind of have this gravitas about who are the black people that are going to be sanctioned. It just amazes me with all of his financial blunders throughout his time as Secretary of State. We need not only go back two weeks when we look at how he telegraphed a message with the RNC convention from Jerusalem. Then we track back and look at he was being investigated. And if I'm correct me, Recy, if I'm not mistaken, that Senator Kamala Harris sent a message

to his office in regards to the inspector general that was fired, given 30 days to vacate that office. So when we think about how he is under investigation because of his financial mishappenings during his time as Secretary of State, using his office, flying back and forth to Kansas, considering a senatorial run, the way his wife has abused her access as well, that we see a member of the regime saying, do not as I do, but do as I say. And so when we think about corruption, when we think about sanctions, that term would definitely be more appropriate related to the Trump regime and the actions of Secretary Mike Pompeo. Reese, I just think people need to understand, again, double standards. And the

reality is that the United States, let's just be clear, whether you talk about Republican or Democrat, we don't we love to tell everybody else in the world what they need to do, how they need to behave. We talk about corruption in other countries. Hey, you can't talk about corruption in Nigeria or Kenya or any other country and don't act like you ain't seen corruption in Illinois, in Ohio, in Louisiana, in New Jersey. We can go on and on and on. But again, that's America always. We're morally superior to the rest of the world when we're not. The white hood is off on what we call democracy or the semblance of it or the ideal of it. And it's laid bare for the entire world to see once again. I mean, our reputation was in the trash when George W. Bush was president because of the wars that he started. But now under the Trump regime, it's very clear that we're in white nationalist government, an autocracy, fascist.

And I could go on and on and on. What concerns me is not just the way that they've clearly targeted to African, Black, however you want to characterize it, criminal justice, you know, international criminal justice purveyors. But we know with the Trump administration that there's always an escalation. There's always, they take an inch so that they can take the next mile. And so I'm concerned about thisage of a number of things that are happening. And so that's what really concerns me. In addition to obviously how appalling what they've done is, is the way that the Trump administration is escalating prior to the election and God forbid how they will escalate if they get another four years of complete fascist control of our country.

All right, folks. Congressman Clay Higgins of Louisiana has threatened demonstrators against police violence in a Facebook post on his personal verified Facebook page. He posted a picture of an armed black militia group that protested the police killings of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd. In addition to the photos, he posted a status that's read, Look, fair warning, if this shows up, we'll consider the armed presence a real threat. We being we the people of Louisiana, one-way ticket, fellas. Have your affairs in order. Me, I wouldn't even spill my beer. I'd drop any ten of you where you stand because some of we, like me, we are SWAT.

Nothing personal. We just eliminate the threat. Higgins is a vocal advocate for gun rights and has been featured in NRA promotional videos. The post has been removed for breaking Facebook's violence and incitement policies. He's been called out receipt by Congressman Cedric Richmond. This is a sitting this is a Republican, a sitting member of Congress saying, oh, if you actually practice your first amendment, I'm going to grab my gun and I'm going to practice the second amendment. You know, as far as this degenerate, I have to say you ain't going to do shit. All you're doing is sitting up there on social media, running your mouth. However, this is the Republican playbook. Now the white

nationalist party playbook is to incite violence, even though these people don't have the balls to pick up a gun and do a damn thing. What they are is they're inciting people like Cal Rittenhouse, who's a 17 year old degenerate himself, to pick up arms and feel like they can go and inflict violence on protesters. And so that's where the real danger is. And, I mean, I don't—it seems to me that with this Congress, anything goes. I mean, do people even get censured anymore? Do people get—is there ever any punishment for anything under the Trump era? I don't know but

um my concern is we're seeing an increase of this kind of rhetoric that we know it tends to have an almost immediate impact in in their white nationalist supporters uh actually following through with these kinds of um with these kind of threats um look it's it's great great take it away it's no brother you know what's crazy about it and you know it's funny cedric cedric richmond's a good brother you can tell when he get mad because he just gonna go straight hood on it but reese he had it right he ain't gonna do shit but you know what's interesting about this guy um he's a former cop clay higgiggins. He was on the Appaloosa police force, and he was charged with assault. And his fellow cop lied for him. That cop that lied for this punk is now on his congressional staff.

See this, again, this is only going to stop when we stop it. There you go. Senator Rich is frustrated. I mean, but this guy, he's talking that, like Reese said, I wish he would go down through Appaloosa or Lafayette. I know a little about Lafayette. I know a little about Lafayette and Appaloosa. One of my best friends was on faculty at Southern.

His wife is from right down there. Hell, my grandparents are born and raised in Appaloosa, Louisiana. So you already know about that. You talking that stuff, big boy, big Clay? Why don't you get in your car and ride on down through there tonight? And get out your car and decide which 10 you're going to send. And be very clear about it. That's when we're going to find out what kind of man you are. But we know you ain't no kind of man. Reesey done already said what it is, brother. Look, that's the kind of nonsense. And again, you're not going to find any Republicans say

a word, Erica, putting one of their own in check because this is who the Republican Party is. Yeah, acquiescence has its privileges. And so though he may not do anything, he is a part of a militia of slave patrol officers who actually telegraphs to other people. And so those who do do this and enjoy the blood sport, like the white domestic terrorist Kyle demonstrated, that they will be inspired by these words and they will take action. So is that person merely being a mouthpiece to continue to telegraph white violence and rage? And we're going to continue to see this if, as Dr. Carr continues to say, there has to be a point where we have to stand up because that is the only way, not the only way, but that is one of the ways that we'll see these cowardice messages that are posted from people who're actually paying their salary, that they're actually inciting violence and being paid for it by us is insidious in and of itself. So to where they see that there's

actually a response to their ignorant, mediocre type posts, then we'll continue to see this behavior accelerate. Well, speaking of mediocre and ignorant, Franklin Graham did an interview with CBN, David Brody. And if y'all want to hear really what it sounds like to be a white preacher on crack. I just I just I'm sorry. I have absolutely no respect for Franklin Graham. I mean, I have none. Okay. And, and I don't even, I have no, I don't even give him any respect as a preacher or a spiritual leader. I would never sit under him. Uh, he is a gross, pathetic hypocrite. Uh, and listen, listen to the bullshit he spewed. And take us into socialism is going to affect the church. The government will begin to tell the church how they can be the church. And they'll close the church down in many places. We see right now,

because of COVID, the government trying to tell the church that they cannot meet. And the Constitution gives us that freedom to do that. But because of COVID, they said we can't meet. I have asked before about, has God put Trump in office for such a time as this? And there are many folks that believe obviously, well, obviously he has. What happens if he loses? I think God brought him here for this season, for these four years. I'm just asking that God would spare this country for another four years to give us a little bit more time to do the work before the storm hits. And I believe the storm is coming.

And you're going to see Christians attacked. You're going to see churches closed. You're going to see a real hatred expressed toward people of faith. That's coming. And Jesus told us, he said, you will be hated by all people because of me. And if we're going to stand for the name of Christ, the world will hate us. And that's coming.

It's like Trump is trying to hold back what you're talking about here. First of all, God uses men. He works through men. And I believe Donald Trump is the president for a reason. I think God has put him in this position. And he is. He is Western civilization as we have known it.

He is defending that. Recy, God don't use you you a woman according to franklin graham god is sexist apparently you know um it's he said the storm is coming the storm has been here for black people for 400 years okay so i don't know what he's talking about what's coming because we've been in the middle of the storm we're trying to get the hell out the storm and i just want to go back to something dr carr said a couple of weeks ago and and i'm adding my own spin on it but black people do not underestimate these white folks do not underestimate these white nationalist people i feel like a lot of people are just real comfortable i feel like a

lot of people like well it doesn't matter four more years of trump my vote don't count this down the other do y'all not see the escalation that's happening in front of our very eyes? I mean, most of us were not around when black folks were getting, you know, strung up by trees and lynched, but they're bringing it back. It's just now they have bags over our heads or now they're just shooting you in the face. It's a different form of lynching. That's still not a federal crime. Thanks to Rand Paul and the white nationalist party. And so as Dr. Carr said, listen, you got two options. You can vote and try to hold on to this very fragile, loose idea

of what we call democracy, or you're going to have to take up arms. I don't think we have enough guns, black people, and we don't have the aim. And so maybe what we need to try to do is do what we can over the next couple of months to work this battle box and try to work these ballot box and try to work

these elected officials and try to work this election and try to make change the non-violent way because I don't think we're going to make it if we have a full-blown race war because we just don't have enough guns and y'all ain't stockpiling the guns to make me feel like y'all

ready for the next chapter. So please get out there and vote. Please just do that. That's not saying it's going to solve everything, but you have to snap out of this complacency because these white folks are not playing. And if they get another four years, I'm really, really concerned. Erica, these white conservative evangelicals,

they see this man as the second coming of Jesus Christ, even though he is the devil. So let's stop calling them Christians. They are Pharisees and Sadducees. They are legalists. Also, they care nothing about people outside of who they believe should be in control. They're white supremacists because they believe themselves to be more supreme than God. what that is supposedly supposed to mean, that that is even more damning for them to actually do all of this damage and to then on the other side, because this is a part of their Christian faith, this is what they believe. If they're actually believing on the Lord Jesus Christ, who has hair like mine and is bronze, if they're actually believing on him for them to create all of this chaos chaos, to create everything that is antithetical

to the Old Testament and the New Testament, and then go before him and hear, depart from me, I never knew you. That's who they are. They have made their covenant. They have made their pact. And it is very much so antichrist. So I think that the continued presentation of these white people who are using their religion as a way to cloak or a way to kind of dress up their continued belief in racism, their continued belief in that white is the answer, that white is right, is really a disservice to people who are believers,

to people who do believe on the tenets of Jesus Christ, who do believe that that is their faith and that is their walk and that is who they're walking with and have built relationship with. who comes off more like Saul, who, you know, David, the most revered man in the Bible, I would say, that David actually had to fight him for 13 years because of his jealousy and his anti-godness. Greg, bottom line is this here. Franklin Graham is operating in the same tradition of these white evangelicals who use the Bible against black folks who justified slavery. This man had nothing good to say about Obama. He didn't care that Obama was a Christian. He kept insinuating that he was a Muslim, did not care that Obama prayed. He trashed him at every turn.

And so I have absolutely no respect, no regard for Franklin Graham. In fact, let me go ahead and say it. The only damn reason Franklin Graham assumed control of the empire of his father's empire is because of his genitalia. The reality is this here, the actual better preacher in the family is Anne Lutz, his sister. If Ann Lutz wasn't a woman, she would be the one who would have been the heir to the empire of Billy Graham. And I'll go ahead and say it.

Yes, Franklin Graham, your sister can out-preach your sorry behind any day of the week, and she has more credibility than you on anything on any day. Pick any one that ends with a Y. Hey brother, that white patriarchy is a hell of a drug. I don't know what's up with these second generation white boys between Falwell and the pool boys and the young girls and this crazy Graham.

Well, it's par for the course and I think that everybody should join to bring the funk fan club and you should make your time now because you heard the sermon delivered by Erica Sam Wilson who is this hope that these people are not Christian because mr. Graham if you have have read that, instead of going by it on the way to your white— remember, the Ku Klux Klan was founded as a Christian organization. The Ku Klux Klan is in the same tradition as Smiling Mike Pence with his idolatry. And I'm glad you call them Pharisees and Sadducees, sis, because America's not mentioned in the Bible. However, if you listened to Smiling Mike Pence last week at Fort McHenry,

he took a biblical scripture and basically said, look to the flag instead of look to the cross. That's all you need to hear about these people. They are not Christian. If you read the Bible, the Bible, if you're going to talk about a political economy, it operates by, if you even want to say that, is a socialist document. Jesus Christ, he's not no capitalist. He's a socialist.

If you want to look at the policies of feeding the poor, I mean, clothing the naked, making sure the hungry have something to eat. This is all things they would call socialism. But when Franklin Graham says the storm, see, that's a phrase that comes out of that QAnon BS. And they're saying when he says the storm, and remember that fool down there in Texas who's over at the state Republican Party, a black man by the name of Allen West, saying, oh, well, we just took We Are the Storm from a poem. No, you took it from something Donald Trump said in 2017, surrounded by generals, when he said maybe this is the calm before the storm. When they say the storm, that is code speak for the coming confrontation between their

forces and who they see as their enemies. That's why Mickey Pompous was standing on that roof in Jerusalem. He's no ally of Israel. He thinks he's going with the biblical playbook and there's going to be an Armageddon and the Antichrist is coming back. That's why Franklin Graham is talking about the storm, because they look at this as a holy war, but they frame it as a holy war in the same way those white boys who opened that Bible on Thanksgiving weekend in 1915 on the top of Stone Mountain and put that sword over the Bible and then

lit a flaming cross and pledged themselves to defend their what they perceived their version of Christianity. That's what they all meant. They are not Christians. They are not Christians. They are white nationalist idolaters and they to embrace something that Jesus Christ himself, if he were here, and you're right, Reesey, you better hope he don't show up while you were talking all this smack because you ain't got a lot of explaining to do.

But if he were here, he'd be on the opposite side. That's right. All right, folks, got to go to a break. We come back. Jesse T. Usher. Y'all seen him, of course. Survivors for Moors and Shaft. He's got a new project.

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certainly appreciate seek uh being a partner here at robert martin unfiltered and of course being the sponsor of our bi-weekly tech segment all right folks you've seen jesse t usher in survivors remorse you've also seen of course uh in uh for season two of this new upcoming show, The Boys. And he's been in Shaft, you name it, all his different movies. And so he joins us right now along with his sister, Tia. She has a clothing company. So all kinds of happening with them. Let's go to them. Jesse, what up?

Are we in? Yes, yes. Y'all are here. You've had some janky technology. Man, listen, I don't know what's going on, but there's a crazy lag, and I'm trying to get it under control. What's going on, bro? What's happening, man?

All good, man. Glad to have you here. So, of course, many of us, we were checking you out on Survivor's Remorse when it was on the stars. Of course, we saw you in the shaft. What's the season two of this other show that you're on? The show is The Boys. It's on Amazon Prime.

Season two comes out tomorrow. Yeah, we're hyped. We're hyped, Roland. Look, Team A-Train, baby, we out here! You know what I mean? Nah, I'm hyped about it. I've seen all the episodes. I'm gonna re-watch them as they come out. We have the first three dropping tomorrow.

And then every week after that will be, you know, the following episode followed by our after show now, which is a new thing that we've been doing with Amazon. And we're really hype about it. I mean, you know, I play A-Train, and I left on a cliffhanger from season one. So season two, a lot of the fans are going to get some unanswered questions answered, you know, very early on.

So I'm hyped for that. So they're not dropping all of them. So, you know, other folks are binging. But that does allow us for people to be able to watch it and talk about it each week. Exactly. They did the binge thing for season one, and it went very well.

I'm not 100% sure why they decided to change it, but I kind of prefer having that six days in between each episode so people can process it, the conversation can be had, and then you get a little bit more. To me, I think it's more beneficial. And then the fact that we have the after show now where the cast and, you know, the producers and everybody will kind of come and we talk about each episode each week, it just really allows people to get enveloped in the show a

little bit more. And the fan base that we've, you know, accumulated just from season one, they're so into the show. I think they're really going to appreciate hearing our voices following each episode so we can kind of just clear up some murky water for them. Well, I agree. I mean, as a viewer, I'll be honest with you, the issues that I've always had with binge-watching shows

that are... Look, if a show's of a season or whatever the heck, you can... That's different. But to me, it's something great to be able to watch a show with other people. You can talk about it. Because it frankly pisses me off when you binge watch a show and you see all the shows. And somebody's like, no, no, don't say anything because I'm still on episode three.

You're like, hurry your ass up and watch the doggone show so we can talk about it. Exactly. Like now people have time. You know, the first week is going to be tough because it is still three episodes, three hours. You got to knock out. And this is fortunately the type of show that people want to talk about immediately. At least that's what it was

for the first season. So, you know, you got to almost jump right on it. At midnight, I'm hoping people jump right on there and start checking out those first three episodes. If they can, if not, then they got all day tomorrow. And then they got a whole week before another episode comes out. Luckily, hopefully there won't be

too many spoilers that come up, but I can't control the math. Of course, you were introduced as the new Shaft with Richard Roundtree and Sam Jackson. Yes, sir. First of all, I thought it was funny as hell.

Other people felt it was too much. Thank you. Other people thought it was too much comedy. Are we going to see another shaft? Are we going to see you put on the leather jacket? I hope so. I mean, I told Kenya. The original black superhero. The original black superhero. I told Kenya Barris, he asked me, you know, based on my experience from shooting the last one, would I do another? And I said, absolutely. I tell people all the time, if I can work with Samuel Jackson in every project that I do I will his level of professionalism exceeds anything that I'd ever seen before so you know there's that there's the legend the man the myth himself Richard Roundtree being involved in that project

made made it everything for me so being able to do that again without having to kind of just work on the foundation where we get to actually give that thing some legs and let it branch out, I'm 100% down. Plus the coat made me feel good, you know? I'm still alive, baby! You ain't never had that much swagger. I ain't never had that much

swagger and unless we do another film, I might not ever get it again. And that's okay. That's why I'm champion for it. Matter of fact, I'm going to send Sam Jackson that text. He said his level of professionalism exceeds anything I've ever seen before. I'm going to see if he agrees. I know he will. I've told him

myself. You know how Sam is. He's like, yeah. Yeah, I know. Sam reaffirms himself. Absolutely. As he should though. He's like, yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah, right, right, right. Sam reaffirms himself. Absolutely. As he should, though. He's proved it to all of us. He don't need you saying to Sam like, yeah, I know. And your point?

And your point? Right, exactly. What's the point? When's the next movie? That's what he said. Yes, precisely. You stood up earlier. You said Team A-Train. What's that? Tell everybody. What is that? That's the character I play on The Boys um you know my sister designed this shirt for me it's it's got team a train on it and it has the character that i play on the shirt and like there's a there's a community of team a trainers out there hey there you go

i got it i got it i got it i got it community of team a trainers out there you go. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. Community of team a trainers out there, you know, who support black heroes in, in shows like this, because, you know, on the boys, I'm the minority and we got to support each other. So she designed this shirt for me and I rock it all the time. Anytime I go to a con or anything like that. And she's, you know, the mastermind is right here. She is the face and the mind behind Eantia. So Eantia, so Tia, what's up with these masks? OK, this is BF. All right, so explain that.

The masks are aromatherapeutic scented masks. Really calming and relaxing. They're made and infused with essential oils. Acute Extensive Masks. Really calming and relaxing. They're made and infused with essential oils. Yeah, they're going to make me high. They're going to make me high. They will not make you high. Should have put hemp oil in here or something.

Would have been a whole different show. Am I wearing a mask or am I getting a massage? A little bit of both. It's like a mental massage for your nose okay okay all right so so so so by putting those so say it again so what's the oils that y'all that y'all put in the mask so it's aromatherapeutic essential oil um either vanilla or lavender it's infused into the fabric um so when you wear the mask throughout the day and take it off, even if you hang it, it's almost like an air freshener. So it's all 100% essential oil.

So you don't have to worry about that. And allergies and things, it really helps during this time. It's very calming. The scent is the lavender for sure. Everyone needs to be calm these days. If a Karen had this mask on, she wouldn't be so angry. Let's just put it that way. It's some crazy white folks need to have these masks on.

Yeah, man, we need to just go around and hand them out. You know, anytime we see somebody acting crazy, we're going to throw a this is BS over their mouth, and everybody will be happy. Slap you with a this is BS. Yeah, there you go. So you have the mask and how many different colors i have black and white so what are you white um well one of the

newer colors black and red um it comes in black yellow but she's got so many other masks that don't say this is bs right really that's yeah see That's kind of how she started. Gaining traction is just fun. Yeah, I like that one too. And they come in non-scented as well if you prefer to not have a scent. Right, if you want to be stressed out, you can do

the non-scented. Or if you want to relax, you can do the scented one. But the variety is wild. Now you know what black people gonna do. Black people gonna take their own mask and gonna put some oil in it. And then their mask gonna be real greasy and everything.

And they gonna be like, damn, that didn't work. That didn't work. It worked. But they poking at all you on there. That's not gonna work. They're gonna be running down their chin. They're out today.

You know what I mean? That's not gonna work. Yeah, man. They're gonna have hair grease in there. Everybody love a good dude growth. Now, did you start? Were you doing items before coronavirus and masks? Or is this what precipitated it?

No. I was making men's and women's contemporary sportswear before. for coronavirus and masks, or is this what precipitated it? No, I was making men's and women's contemporary sportswear before. I actually started doing masks because a bank contacted me to make masks for all their employees, and it just gave me the great idea. It's like, why don't I make masks for essential workers outside of like healthcare and things because people were sending everything to them. But then I was like,

no one really remembered grocery store workers and the bankers and people that kind of needed to work all the time and kind of help us out. So I started making masks for them and then it just kept going from there because people were like, I need one, I need one, I need one. And so now I have like

25 different styles, so that's awesome Well this well I tell you what so show me that show me that uh that African print again, so I like that I like that one there And I had some extra so I had some extra kente cloth when I came back from Ghana So I flipped this to one of them. Oh, I love that. I love that. Then I hit them with this one, too.

That's a killer right there. I got to coordinate. I got to coordinate. That's how I feel. When I put my mask on, it's got to match my shoes. Period. I got to coordinate. I got to coordinate.

And so, look i i appreciate it uh it's a great having uh on the show jess is always good to see you uh we got i would say we gotta hang out again at a club in miami but ain't no ain't no getting together so i don't know when hell that's gonna happen again so uh look well next time i see you to be on a golf course how about that oh yeah absolutely because i'm'm always ready. I saw your swing. Let me just go ahead and say a prayer right now. I'm just saying he's getting better. I'm going out a lot more. I'm practicing and I'm watching videos. I'm taking lessons.

Don't worry. It's getting better. She knows she's seen the evolution of my swing. I've been watching you like I'm taking lessons. Don't worry. It is getting better. It's getting better. She knows. She's seen the evolution of my swing. I've been watching you. Like, I'm getting better. Trust me. Tia, do you play? Trust me. I'm learning. I'm trying to get her into it.

So somebody who don't play is vouching for somebody who just started playing. I'm good. Yeah, so yeah. Yeah, that's going to really work. That's that's yeah, that's gonna really work That's gonna really work. Yeah, give me some time. Okay. I'll be there. You got a lot of time on your hands right now Plenty to let folks know where they can go to get your Aromatherapy at www.yantia.com. You got to spell it for black people twice.

Come on now. It's E-Y-N-A-I-A-Yantia.com. All right, then. Folks, we appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. Hey, Rose. Good to talk to you, man. I'll talk to you soon. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We'll do it. Y'all take care. Stay safe. All right, then. Folks, we appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. Hey, Rose. Good to talk to you, man. I'll talk to you soon. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We'll do it. Y'all take care.

All right, then. All right, folks. Bring my panel back. There's a couple more stories I want to get to before we go. And that is this here in Virginia. There are just 60 days left before the election. And the Virginia Attorney General, Recy, is suing to block, keep Kanye West off of the ballot. Now, what's the trip here? Republican operatives are all behind this whole deal. It's real clear what the hell this nut is doing. They kept him off of other places. He has gotten on the ballot in several other places.

But this is this is all a joke, I think. And here's the deal. It is a joke. At the same time, it's not a joke. Donald Trump and Republicans want to confuse people. They want to siphon away votes from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris by having by having Kanye West on the ballot. So far, though, most of the places he's got on the ballot are red states. The Democrats are not going to win. He's on the ballot in Colorado. They likely that's a state the Democrats likely will win. He's on the ballot in Colorado. That's a state the Democrats likely will win. But that's the game here. But this is the kind of nonsense Republicans are real good at to try to sow seeds of discontent in the election. Yeah. And Virginia was actually a very close state in 2016. And so this is one of those areas where

we cannot afford that kind of margin of error of people being foolish. But, you know, I've said it plenty of times. I think that Kanye West is playing a very dangerous game here with this election fraud that he's engaging in. And I think that when you have attorney generals that are stepping in and suing you for basically engaging in election fraud, you're you're one step away from having criminal charges. And so if I were him, I would wave the white flag and abort mission. And I saw that he did an interview recently with Nick Cannon and he said, oh, he's not bought by the Republicans and he has more money than Donald Trump. Yet every single state that has helped out his campaign or whatever you want to call it has been Republicans. I mean,

his running mate, I believe, is a registered Republican. He registered as a Republican, if I'm not mistaken. And so first of all, his ass didn't even vote last time. Well, there's that. There's that. But I mean, he's a Republican chaos agent. Now, if he is suffering from some sort of issues that make him delusional about that, whether or not he's that's what he's doing. But he is doing that. But like I said, I would be very concerned if I were him about the election fraud and potential criminal liability he's going to face if he continues up with these shenanigans.

Greg, he did do an interview with one of your former students, Nick Cannon. That's fine. Let me just be real clear. When you talk about this election, I will never have Kanye West's ass on my show. Now, I wouldn't because my deal is I am not going to participate in, let's just be real clear,

and let me just give the warning to all my family-friendly fans out there, I'm not going to participate in the bullshit. And that's exactly what it is. Kanye West is a joke. He is ignorant. He is clueless. He is despicable.

And this little, this nonsensical game he's playing, that's exactly what it is. But this is real life. It has real consequences. And I will not entertain foolish individuals in these times. No, you're right, Roland. And I couldn't agree with what Reese has said more. And yeah, Nick did go out to Wyoming and sit with him. And the thing about Nick and Kanye in that sense

is that, you know, Nick is very loyal to his friends. And I think that just like when Dave Chappelle went out there, they're trying to support Kanye. And of course, if you watch the interview, you see Nick trying to gently kind of guide him. So really what's happening, I think, is Kanye West, this is a free association. Whatever comes out his mouth, he says his party is the birthday party and so forth and so on. So you got that set of issues. It may or may not be due to whatever the chemical imbalance is. It may just be his creative flow. But what Risi has said and what you've just affirmed and reiterated cannot be overstated.

This serves the function of being an agent of chaos. These people are playing for keeps. Now, fortunately, in Virginia today, the sister who is the chief judge, presiding judge of Virginia Circuit Court, Georgia Taylor, a graduate of Lincoln University and the Howard University School of Law, threw that shit out. She said, look, 11 of the elector oaths were either improper, fraudulent, or misleading. Two of the brothers who signed to be electors for him said they had been misled. They were told that they were signing up to join the elector pool in

the state of Virginia. Kanye West could not pick an elector out or identify a process if his life were at stake. Clearly there are other elements involved in this that are using him. So you're right. I mean, it would do no good for you to have him on the show. For Nick to sit down with him in Cannon's class, I think that was a friend attempting to help the world understand that my friend, this is just how he moves through the world. And trust me, he ain't thinking about running for office. But again, that's not anything to trifle with or play with in a situation where we're dealing with hard news. I'd only add one other thing. Jesse Usher, if you haven't seen The Boys, these are the comics

right here. I'm a young comic book fan. This is the omnibus. It was a comic book before it was an Amazon series. That character he plays, A-Train, was a white character in the comic books. They made it a black character. Check out The Boys, Ron. I think you'll like the show, man. I don't do

no comics, though. I mean, I don't. I didn't. I ain't do comics when i was a kid i didn't that's unfortunate no i just didn't i didn't i mean i i had i had a cousin of mine who was really into the comics i mean he was like really into it i was like i sorry y'all i was i was i was actually reading real books so i was like so yeah i was yeah i was i was a different kid i was yeah i when people said they go oh my god my favorite comic is archie i'm like i yeah i saw i'm not talking about archie i'm talking about my daddy called him funny books now i'm talking about funny

books the writing in comic books is better than i would say probably 90 of the literature being produced now that people are buying yeah i just i never never, if I had to sit here and even think about a comic book that I read more than one time, there ain't no recollection, no, I might as well have dementia. Because it don't, no, there was no space up here. No. I was on a whole different wavelength. Erica, I got to get you to comment on this. Mississippi has a new flag design, y'all.

Now, remember they voted, well, first of all, let's be real clear. When them black ballplayers said, we ain't going to play. All of a sudden, Mississippi, oh, we got to change that flag. It's amazing how when Negroes stop entertaining white folks, how they will change racist policies. That's what they did in Mississippi. They got rid of that Confederate emblem on their flag. And so then they've been going back and forth trying to figure out new designs. So what they've settled on is this right here, the magnolia flower on their state flag. And so the voters will they will go to the polls. The voters are going to vote on this, Erica.

If it does not pass, they will come back. Then they will design a new state flag and then put it up for the voters to vote on. It was hilarious. Listen to those fools who were like, we, I still can't forget the fool, Erica, who was like, we should not take away the opportunity for the people to vote on this and deprive them of the honor of doing the right thing. That racist knew them fools in Mississippi were never going to sit here and change that damn flag. Sure. And when we look at kind of this iteration of the flag, it's very interesting that the secretary of state had a hand in instead of allowing the two flags that had seen overwhelming support for voters to vote on those two flags. They said, no, we need a decision on the design so they can appear on the ballots and we need it by September the 2nd. So your secretary of state do, in fact, matter.

When we look at Mississippi, I mean, the magnolia tree and the magnolia flower, you got a state flower, the state tree for Mississippi. And just thinking about what magnolias are, they're very reminiscent of the South, very much so kind of a centerpiece of the antebellum era. So one could also say that while the flag does not tote very kind of in-your-face designs that do ring the Confederacy, there are still glimpses of kind of the old South in this flag. So it is just my hope that the people of Mississippi vote on the flag of their choice and that the product that is produced and that will represent not only Mississippi, but for the constituents that live there, it'd be something that Mississippians collectively will be proud of, particularly the black Mississippians in that community. Folks, Mike Espy, who is running against Cindy Highsmith for the United States Senate, dropped his new TV ad. I want to play this and just talk real quickly about this. Here we go.

I've always loved Mississippi, and I'll never stop fighting for it. I'm Mike Espy, and I was among the first black students to integrate my high school, so I know how much that Mississippi has changed. But with her talk of public hangings and glorified Confederate symbols, Senator Hyde-Smith is hurting our ability to recruit new businesses and jobs because it gives the impression that we haven't changed. I approve this message because I'm running to keep Mississippi moving forward. Bottom line here, he only lost by 68,000 votes in 2018. We talk about why we have to vote. The number of black people who did not vote in Mississippi, the number of poor whites who didn't vote. Reverend Barber keeps talking about how if Democrats would actually invest in mobilizing people, they can actually win in the South.

This is a winnable seat for Mike Espy. Right. I mean, we have to get people to the polls and there's still going to be this unprecedented voter suppression activity. But we saw that there is a lot of momentum, particularly for financial resources for the Democratic Party. Specifically, the Biden-Harris campaign race, I believe it was it was well over 300 million dollars just in the month of August alone. So I would like to see some of that wealth spread around to candidates like Mike Espy and Senate candidates so that we can take back the Senate as well. But we have to invest in these states. We have to invest in voter education. We have to invest in combating voter suppression. But I also think that, you know, these Senateisms and, you know, these these these moral messages.

I still think that they need to give people an economic and health care message. Well, actually, yes. I mean, the reality is he has. I mean, I followed it. He's talked. He's talked when he ran 2018. He's talked about expanding Medicaid in the state. He's talked about bringing business into the state. That's the whole deal. But again, he's running against someone, Erica, who appeals to the old white South Confederacy, praising Jefferson Davis. And that's really where Mississippi is.

What I'm saying is white folks will be white in Mississippi. What I'm saying to white folks will be white in Mississippi. What I'm saying to the black folks in Mississippi, to the black folks who are watching right now, y'all need to be telling your black relatives in Mississippi that if you vote your numbers, you can actually win. But it's this self-fulfilling prophecy. Well, well, man, we're not now. I don't ain't no way we can win. So then you this self-fulfilling prophecy where, well, man, we're not, no, there ain't no way we can win. So then you don't vote. Well, the most guaranteed ass way you won't win is if you don't vote. Right. And I'm glad you brought up Dr. William Barber, because when the bishop talks about the poor and low wage Americans in this country. Talk about 140 million people. And so Mississippi is not in play

because it's never been really a state, including others like Arkansas, states that are considered just Republican strongholds that the Democrats have not invested in. I just recently saw something with Biden and Harris campaign. I'm not sure if this dovetails into what Reesey was talking about, but this rule agenda. And so that agenda really needs to be rolled out fast and heavy, particularly Mississippi,

where you see communities like the Delta, which have not changed much in decades, but have a significant black population that has really not been courted. They've not been talked to, right? Whenever we think about the Delta, we always think about just the severe poverty that is still yet happening there, but never engagement improvements to really build up that body politic that exists there. And so absolutely engaging the voters, the Black rural population within states like Mississippi is definitely one for the books. But then also given something, as you mentioned, the agenda is continuing to put that forward into people's lives. So they understand that some of the issues that they're grappling with, that these are things that are actually on the

table and actually fixable with right leadership in place. 60 days, Greg, 60 days before election day. Of course, we talk about a lot of time, the presidential race, but there are U.S. Senate races. Every House seat is up. If Democrats pick up four seats in the United States Senate, they will take over the United States Senate. Their candidates are leading right now in Arizona, Colorado, North Carolina. If they pick up that seat in Montana, pick up that seat in Iowa, also the seat out in Maine, one of the two in Georgia. Then they now control who are going to be federal judges. And so also, and the folks, go to my iPad, vote.org.

I need you all to double-check your registration. Republicans are playing games across the country. Double-check to make sure that you are registered. So go right there. You can also register to vote, get your vote by mail. Also, you can fill out your census form. Greg, the point I'm making about ESPY down south, Democrats have totally ignored.

They just, oh, no, we got no shot. But Stacey Abrams showed what happens when you create an entity that mobilizes and registers people, you now put your state in play. North Carolina, same thing. Reverend Barbara and Moral Mondays, they fought the Republicans there. They really, now all of a sudden, Democrats hold a majority on the state Supreme Court.

That state Supreme Court declared that the political districts in the state were racially gerrymandered. The folks took the suit to the federal and they focused on political gerrymandering. Let me be clear, Barbara and others told them, focus on race federal and they focus on political gerrymandering. Let me be clear. Barbara and others told him focus on race. Don't focus on political. They ignored the black folk. What happened? The Supreme Court ruled, hey, we can't decide political gerrymandering. And now that's allowed all across the country. But but but this is the thing that if black folks vote our numbers, that's the thing.

We vote our numbers. We vote our interest and vote our numbers, that's the thing. We vote our numbers, we vote our interests and vote our numbers, then we actually can change. But a vote that's unused is frankly a wasted opportunity. Absolutely. Roland, a new society is being born. As Recy said a moment ago, a couple of minutes ago, it's either going to be, the equivalent is going to be violent

and nonviolent. Malcolm X said the ballot or the bullet. That's more than a metaphor. We're headed toward a structural transformation. It could be for good. It could be for bad. Stacey Abrams is a daughter of Mississippi, even though she went to school at Spelman and has kind of set up her residence in Georgia.

And of course, Mississippi was the epicenter of opening up what Roy Wilkins called the Closed Society, the shock troops of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. But not only them. When they got to Mississippi, they found people like Hollis Watkins. They found people like Fannie Lou Hamer. They found people who were willing to fight on their own two feet. Mississippi should be a flowering of this type of new society. And you, if memory serves me correctly, I guess it was last November when you were talking to Mike Expey, and in the segment I think you may have led with, you know, will the DNC invest in this race? And once again what we see is the establishment Democratic Party having bodied the progressive

wing during the primaries, we're going to prop up Joe Biden, that mummy. And thank goodness we got Kamala Harris there to kind of, you know, expand the party and bring in a different demographic. But until they face what Reverend Barber has said, what we just heard Erica say again, you're going to transform this party, if it can be transformed, by appealing to those that you seem to have forgotten since they busted the door down in 1964 in Atlantic City. And then you put in superdelegates as a check against them. And then you put a check on Reverend Jackson in 84 and 88. And then you come into the Democratic Leadership Conference with Bill Clinton still

trying to chase them white voters. And then you get a Barack Obama who, if that had been 1964, would have been with Roy Wilkins and them trying to compromise. And finally, you got our brother in South Carolina to kind of help pull Joe Biden's behind out the fire. But if you miss this opportunity, what you are saying to us is you've got our vote hostage, you know we've got to get this white nationalist out of office, but you are not serious about contributing to the society that's going to be reborn whether you participate or not. There's no way Tom Perez and the rest of the Democratic establishment should not be pouring resources into Mississippi. They won't do it because they're still framed around this failed and dying paradigm that has them chasing these imaginary coal miners, these farmers somewhere in an imaginary Midwest,

and turning their back on the very people that have allowed them to be in business for the last 50 years. If they miss this opportunity, though, brother, we might have to go get some pistols, because I promise you, it's going to be born one way or the other. So let me say this right now. I got some dumbass on YouTube, Jai, Ellie, Eli, whatever the hell your name is. I don't really give a damn. And I love these stuck-on stupid fools who have this notion that, oh, because I keep saying hashtag fire Trump in November, that this is all about getting a job. Let me help you

punk asses out. I ain't never worked on a political campaign. Mayor, gubernatorial, presidential. I have no interest in working for a politician. For all you fools who run your mouth, I've had people since I was 24 approach me to run for office.

When I was in when I was in Fort Worth, the brother, the guy who was the chief of staff to House Speaker Jim Wright approached me. He said, Roland, you ain't got to raise the money. You ain't got to worry about the office. We'll handle all that. All you got to do is say yes. When I worked in Dallas, I was approached to run for Dallas City Council. When I worked in Chicago, I was approached to run for county commission in Chicago. Every place I've worked, folks have approached me to run for office. But this is the calling that I was designed to do. See, for all you fools who just run your miles, let me just help you out.

Tomorrow is the second anniversary. Anthony, go back to the panel. Tomorrow is the second anniversary of Roland Martin Unfiltered. Monday was the second anniversary of my last day at TV One. It was the last day at TV One. It was the last day at TV One. I left. I chose not to sign a new contract at TV One because they did not have, as far as I was concerned, anything for me to do in the future.

They were not doing a daily show. I knew they were not going to do a weekly show. Anything else, it was just going to just pay me just a cent. And I knew where we were going to be at this point. Listen to me carefully. I knew where we were going to be. I said then to my agent, Mark Watts, my frat brother, I said, Mark, Tom Journal retires in December of 2019. And there has to be a vehicle for African-American to speak about political issues in the 2020 election. And if I do not launch this now, it won't get launched. And so I did.

I left CNN in 2013. Didn't have CNN money. Didn't have TV One money. Joyner, from when I joined Joyner in 2008, they had cut 80% of the money by the time Joyner reached his last year. So when I walked away from six figures at TV one, I was living off of my speech money. The first year we launched this show, my speech money subsidized this show.

Do you understand that? Let me tell you, as a startup business, my staff has never got paid late. Not one day, not one hour, not one minute. And so I didn't build this to get a job in a Biden Harris administration. Why in the hell would I do that when I can speak to millions every single month? See, if all you fools who run your mouth, who talk to all this trash, who all were projecting failure. In the first month when we launched this show, we did nine point three million collective views on Facebook and YouTube and Periscope in the first month of September 2018. Last month, we did 30 million views. So for those of you, when we launched this show, 157,000 YouTube subscribers today, 618,000 YouTube subscribers. This show is in the black, which means those of you who ain't never run a business, that means it's profitable, which means that we generate more revenue than we have expenses. And so do understand this was all about creating a platform, a mechanism for African-Americans to be able to talk about our issues in the way we want to talk about them to cover the

issues that we want to cover. So when Tamika Mallory and until Freedom, when they are in Louisville protesting and I get a phone call at midnight saying, can we stream this on your platform tomorrow? The answer is yes. When Melanie Campbell and National Coalition of Black Civic Participation and the Black Women's Roundtable are doing their events, do you have a platform to stream? The answer is yes. Other organizations, the answer is yes. We have built something that's by black people for black people. And guess what? I have white fans who watch and they reach out to me because they also care about the issues because we talk about real stuff. This platform is allowed for people who have been silenced.

Let me just real clear that folks who follow Risi are online. But CNN, MSNBC, we're going to call her. This was created. This was created for us to be able to have the conversations that we have. So for all you punk asses out there who think this is about getting a job. First of all, why do I want to go get a job in administration, make it less than I'm making right now? Why do I want to get an administration job when I'm the boss? As in H.N.I.C. For those of y'all who want to use that language. See, y'all, some of you fools out there need to understand that when I'm talking about voting, I'm talking about a process, a process, not the process.

Let me help those of you who don't quite understand English. Voting is a process, not the process in which black people can be able to achieve what it is we want to achieve. I do not believe that the path for black folks, unlike those who met in 1972 in Gary, who believe is only going to be through politics. No, it's also going to be through economics. The creation of this show is a black owned business. I done told y'all that 2.6 million black owned businesses in America, 2.5 million only have one employee. The two other black-owned businesses, they are doing on average $54,000 in revenue a year. So if all you haters, let me help y'all out. The average black-owned business, again, not average, 2.5 out of the 2.6 million black-owned businesses in America have on average one employee. I have 10. The two point of the black owned businesses on

average, they do $54,000 in revenue a year. We do more than that in a month, which means that this show in two years is in the top percentile of black owned businesses in America. This ain't about working for somebody else. This is about creating a platform where we can showcase Seek.com black-owned company. We can showcase African-Americans, Jesse Usher and his sister who has her fashion company. This is the opportunity for us to create space

for African-Americans who create businesses. But for any of y'all out there who think that we're playing games here, we are not. Because what I do understand is this here. Donald Trump and his folk don't do not care about black people. The man thanked black folks for not voting. He thanked black people for not voting. He thanked black people for not voting. So let me be real clear. The next time one of y'all open your mouth again, try to come at me. Yes, I'm a jack. I'm a hit and I'm a hit your heart and I'm a hit you you hard. And I'm going to hit you again. And again. And again.

Because the next time you try to question a brother or a sister who's trying to do something that's right for our people, yeah, I'm going to put your ass in check. That's what happens when you got your own. So if you're running your mouth on YouTube and you ain't even smart enough to put your own avi on your damn channel, that means all you're doing is just bumping your gums, running your mouth. And what we're doing here is creating something that's going next level. And trust me, this ain't just about building one show. This is about going to the next level and building a network. That's what happened when you have vision and when you ain't

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It has been a great second year. Again, tomorrow is our second anniversary, and we certainly look forward to keep giving folks hell and letting them know how we stay black, keep it black, keep it real, keep it honest. And then if we got to cuss y'all out, we will too. Congratulations, Roland. Keep it real. Keep it honest. And then if we got to cut y'all out, we will too. Congratulations, Roland. I appreciate it.

Congratulations, Roland. All right, folks. Y'all see y'all next week. Folks, tomorrow we have another census special. We got to make sure that we get our money. And so that's on tomorrow's show.

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