#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Big Ugly Bill Passes, Jeffries’ Record Speech, Ala. Bodycam Fight, Jobs Report & NC Theft Case
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Folks, the family Jabari Smith would be celebrating his 19th birthday today, except he was gunned
down by cops in Homewood, Alabama on June 23rd.
Police claim that Jabari reached for a gun during a scuffle over marijuana possession,
but the family says that simply is not true.
A witness says that Jabari was unarmed and shot in the back.
Now for
two nights, protesters have filled the streets in home with Alabama calling
for justice in the release of the officer's body cam footage. The
family's attorney has filed a petition requesting that a judge make the
evidence public. But the authorities say releasing that video could hinder
their investigation. Joining us now is civil rights attorney,
Leroy Maxwell Jr., representing the people's family.
So Leroy, we've done these stories a thousand times before.
And when the video exonerates the police,
they are real quick to drop the video,
but they're saying that it's gonna hinder the investigation.
I'm confused how.
It either shows us what happened or it doesn't.
I agree with you, Roland,
and I appreciate you having us on.
You're right.
Typically, whenever these things happen,
and you know as well as I do,
they release the videos right away
with a sense of urgency to clear their officers.
But in this situation, the family's demanding it,
the community's demanding it, the community is demanding it.
Everyone's demanding the video
because we kind of have an idea what's gonna happen.
And I think what they're doing right now
is preparing for the backlash.
Okay, so I laid out a story here.
So what happened?
Where did they stop him?
Why did they stop him?
Just explain to us what actually took place.
Right, so what we know right now is that
this young man, Jabari Peoples,
18 year old, recent graduate from high school,
was in a suburban white neighborhood.
It's a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama,
which is typically a black city,
but we have suburbs around there.
And so he was in a suburban area, Homewood,
probably 80% white population.
He was there visiting with his girlfriend
who recently graduated from high school
about to start University of Alabama.
And they were hanging out at a local spot
where most of the teenagers hang out,
the Homewood soccer park.
They were approached by officers.
Officer claimed that he smelled marijuana,
had a discussion about marijuana with the girlfriend. Officer claimed that he smelled marijuana, had a discussion
about marijuana with the girlfriend. Nothing about Jabari and marijuana. But he pulled them out of
the car, put them up against the car, and that's when things started getting real funny and murky.
At some point, we know there was a tussle. The girlfriend takes off running, and one shot was
fired. All right? And so we don't know what happened, but we know a couple things.
According to the girlfriend,
she had never seen Jabari with a gun,
he was never armed.
And afterwards, when she said,
when the officer set her beside his bleeding body,
did not see a gun at all.
The next thing we know from looking at the body,
having our investigators taking hundreds of photos, our own investigation, we know that there was one shot and that was Jabari being
shot in the back in the left lower quadrant.
That was the only shot, no exit wound whatsoever.
And then the third thing is that we know that there are surveillance cameras and body cam
footage on the actual officer.
Those are the items that are gone missing.
So what we have right now is witnesses saying
he was unarmed, he was shot in the back, he's dead,
he should be alive today.
And then the third missing part of it
is the actual video of what happened.
And that's what the law enforcement's refusing
to release at this point.
And it doesn't make sense unless they're trying
to cover something up.
All right, so when you say the video has gone missing,
what does that mean?
Oh, well, not necessarily missing the video.
We know where the video is.
We know that Homewood City Police have the video.
We know Alabama Law Enforcement Agency have the video.
They're just refusing to allow us to view it.
And so right now there's some bad laws on the books
that allow Alabama law enforcement agencies
to withhold evidence if they think
it's an ongoing investigation.
Now we know ongoing or not, in these situations,
police always release the body cam footage
if it's exonerating.
If it's exonerating.
If it's dispositive in their favor, they let it out.
But we also know when it goes the other way around, they hold on to it.
And I think that's what's going on here.
We filed in court, we've made our demands, we just filed a pleading yesterday.
So we expect to have our day in court and give this information immediately.
court and give this information immediately.
And so first of all, we've done so many of these stories beforehand. When you talk about these laws in these states, they have requirements.
In fact, you've got Republicans who have been trying to pass other laws
in other states that restrict the release of any footage, regardless
of the situation, and some even compel a judge to sign an order
for the video to be released.
Right, and Alabama is one of those states as well.
We recently had some legislation passed essentially said
the family, whenever there's a police involved shooting,
the family has the right to access
and to view the body cam footage.
However, that access is denied if there's an ongoing investigation.
It does not allow access to the media.
It does not allow for a FOIA, Freedom of Information Act, to see the video.
It basically puts a ton of restrictions on it, but has a small little caveat that says
a family can view a video, but then has a role
of 15, 20 reasons why they cannot.
And it's easy for them to enforce that any time they want.
And on top of that, Alabama is one of the states that just passed one of those additional
immunity bills that not only give officers qualified immunity, state-agent immunity,
now there's an extra level of protection of immunity
that they have in these sort of incidents.
So in Alabama, we have one of those double whammy states
where on the surface they give you the idea that,
hey, family could look at it.
But in reality, all the deal does is codify
exactly what it is that you cannot do
and what it is officers can use to prevent the family
from actually watching the footage.
You said he was a recent recent high school graduate and he's in this he was visiting his
girlfriend. Had there been any previous issues with police in Homewood?
Yeah, so Homewood has a long string of incidents.
This area, like I said, these suburban areas around there,
I think what black folks gotta understand
is that even when we are in these situations,
when we feel comfortable,
we're actually still behind enemy lines.
And the reality is they don't want us there. All right? Whether it's me, whether it's you, whether it's our sons, 18-year-old to 65-year-old, they don't want us there.
If this was a young white boy hanging out with his friends in his baseball uniform,
they wouldn't have bothered him. But because of who he is and what he looked like, they initiated an engagement with him
that was completely unnecessary.
And even if there was,
even if his girlfriend did have marijuana on her,
that doesn't lead to a death sentence.
Jabari was someone's son, someone's brother,
brand, bright future,
wanted a future in law enforcement himself.
He worked security with one of the major hospitals
in the state of Alabama.
So he had nothing but respect for the law,
but no matter how much respect he had for them,
it wasn't returned on to him.
And we always pray that our sons make it back home,
and he was one that didn't make it back home,
and it was senseless.
Obviously, because of what you just described, you said this home was a
largely white suburb. I have to ask the question, girlfriend,
she African-American or she white? She was African-American.
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This was a dynamic.
So this wasn't a situation of a white girl
and then a white cop, black boy.
Was anything like that?
That's why I was asking the question.
No, it wasn't that situation.
This is a black couple minding their own business.
Out there in a park where teenagers often are,
if you go to the park right now,
it's littered with teenagers hanging out,
that's teenagers do. Schools out, if it's littered with teenagers hanging out, that's teenagers do.
Schools out are on, if it's a Friday night or schools out, they hang out in parking lot.
Not doing anything wrong.
If officers wanted to arrest every single kid or bother every single kid that hung out
in a parking lot, enjoying their time, enjoying their summer, the prisons would be full of
folks.
But they don't do that because it doesn't make sense.
This was a black couple enjoying themselves.
But even when we try to enjoy ourselves or be to ourselves,
they won't let us be.
Whole lot done back here.
Black Last Matter grassroots, they've been protesting.
They reached out to me to talk about their involvement
as well, so you really have a lot of intensity going here
from people demanding justice.
Oh yeah, we have a lot of movement here.
We're blessed to have the support of Black Lives Matter,
other organizations who have stepped up
and stepped in for the family.
And really we're doing everything we can.
And I appreciate all the protestors,
all the activists who are involved with this
because all too often it's just the families
and the lawyers trying to fight this thing out.
But we're in a really good situation right now
with a lot of support and we're moving boots on the ground
trying to make something happen.
All right, then we surely appreciate you joining us keep us updated
what happens next in this case. I thank you thank you so much for having us I appreciate you.
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All right, folks, it's Donald Trump cooking the books.
The June jobs report is out.
And it's weird.
The U.S. economy, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
added 147,000 jobs last month, beating expectations.
Unemployment rate dipped to 4.1% the lower since February.
Most of the gains came from, guess what?
Government hiring, state and local, especially in education.
The private
sector added just 74,000 jobs. Its weakest showing in months. The federal government
actually lost 7,000 jobs continuing a year of deep cuts. Now we're going to go beneath
the numbers. Joining us right now to break it all down. Morgan Harper, director of policy
and advocacy at the American Economic Liberties Project. Okay, so Morgan, now I'm confused
because we had the, what is it?
Is it ADP?
Their numbers a day before saying loss of 33,000 jobs.
Now this, and I've seen people posting on social media,
even a sort of item where Bloomberg
called out these numbers as being fudged.
Can you explain us what the hell's going on?
Well, I don't know if I even have full information on that.
I mean, I have not seen that Bloomberg story.
We don't, of course, know fully what's happening
within the Trump administration,
but I do think that it's possible
that there's some discrepancies,
and this does happen in other months too,
some discrepancy between what the ADP figures
are predicting and that we ultimately end up seeing
from the government data.
So, you know, hard to say for sure,
but I think even if we are taking these numbers
at face value, and like you said, Roland,
they are showing some increase
in job creation numbers. If we look below the hood, there's plenty to be concerned about
and could be signs of future trouble. So explain. Okay. So for example, a few things to note,
because like I said, there's a lot. One, people who are unemployed are staying unemployed longer.
That's disconcerting, because now it's
like you're trying to find a job,
but you're not able to get one, problematic.
Two, the manufacturing jobs continue to go down.
So you noted that a lot of the job growth
is in public sector, local, state government, education, even health care.
That's not usually private sector either.
There's a lot of nonprofit hospitals, for example,
things like that.
We're not seeing the gains in the private sector.
That's the whole theory of the case for them,
is they're bringing back manufacturing and rebuilding
America and all of this.
Well, this is the second month in a row
where we've seen
multi thousands of manufacturing job losses.
And we noted, it's not across a lot of different industries.
The average number of hours that people are working
is also going down.
And of course it's possible people are voluntarily
trying to work less or summertime,
maybe things with kids and who knows, but
it could be a sign and I think a lot of people are wondering if it is a sign that people
again are not able to work as much as they want.
So they are still employed, but they're just not able to get as many hours in, schedule
as many shifts as they would like.
And importantly, black unemployment is rising.
So even though overall unemployment
is still staying pretty steady,
and these numbers from this past month,
black unemployment going up.
And those fluctuate a lot, we've talked about that,
so we'll just have to see how it all gets adjusted,
but that is the other take on some of these job numbers
beyond the headline.
The other thing I would note is there's a whole category
of knockoff effects that are happening
throughout because of other policy decisions or
other indicators that might not be directly connected to
this jobs data that comes out every month,
but are also signs of trouble.
That would include things like layoffs.
Microsoft, for example, just announced that they're going to have another,
I think this is their third round of layoffs over the last few months.
This latest round, 9,000 people that are going to be laid off, Microsoft, a lot of the tech
companies have done layoffs, and we're starting to see more of this, not just in tech, but
also in other industries as well.
We don't need to explain that.
Layoffs are not good and mean less money in
people's pockets. And based on some of those other factors we were just discussing,
it might be harder for people to bounce back if there isn't as much private sector hiring going on.
And actually, I think the job cuts we're seeing, this is, it's among the highest levels of layoffs,
job cuts we've seen since the pandemic. But as we know, the pandemic was a very unique time.
So to be getting anywhere close to starting to match
what was going on during the pandemic
could be just the beginning of the brewing
of an economic crisis.
And of course we see tariffs.
You have the chair of the Federal Reserve,
Chairman Powell, who has said that they would have
cut rates by now if Donald Trump's tears were not going to go into effect.
And again, you've got Republicans who are sitting here just crowing and how great and
wonderful these things are.
We saw what happened today with this bill that was passed that's going to be signed
into law tomorrow.
And we've already had one hospital in Nebraska now they're going to shut down because of
what's happening with Medicaid.
And so while they are cheering and proclaiming things are wonderful, we are about to have
a serious economic problem.
Yeah, I think that's a great point.
I mean, the tariffs we talked about that still just continues to be a huge source of uncertainty.
And look, I mean, that connects to why we're not seeing more job growth in private sector. A lot of private sector
companies are just saying, we can't move in this environment. We don't know where things are headed.
Even if they don't keep all of the tariffs, the increase in certain level of tariffs is going to
impact their ability to maybe replace some of their supply, given that we're not seeing
the administration pair these tariffs with domestic investment and diversify the types
of suppliers that are available.
And you're absolutely right, Roland.
I mean, the big bill, I'm not going to use the term beautiful because, I mean, it's actually
offensive to even apply that word to what's going on here.
These are really aggressive cuts that are going to hit at the heart of
not just people's economic lives, but actually their whole existence as human beings with
some of the cuts that are happening to health care.
And that's going to have a big impact too.
Premiums likely to go up.
We could see further consolidation in the insurance industry.
That is never a good thing for bottom line access
to health care and also controlling costs.
And then the, you know, the immigrant, what are they choosing to fund?
Choosing to fund ICE to the tune of $46 billion.
Well, again, you can take the humanity point at it.
And a lot of target, they said that they're going after people who are criminals, but
I think we all have seen now that it's gone way beyond that,
including picking up some people who are American citizens
and their raids and all of that,
real chilling effect on workers.
And then, you know, getting to the economic impact,
workers wanting to even show up.
A lot of towns at this point, you know,
here in Ohio where I am across the country,
the immigrant population is the engine of the economy.
And so if we have people, even if they're still here,
they're scared to even leave their homes
because of some of this ICE funding,
well, we're not gonna see the amount of labor
that's needed to keep up some of our food supply
and all of these things,
and that could have detrimental effects as well
and increase a lot of the costs
that we face as consumers down the line.
Will all of this happen
right away? The impacts? No. But again, it does continue to feel like we just have this ticking
time bomb that it's not a matter, it's not, if we will have some kind of economic downturn, it's when.
I want to bring in my panel while we're having this economic discussion. Let me bring them in right now.
Dr. Noah Haynes, Georgetown University School of Foreign Service, joining us from D.C.,
Dr. Greg Hard, Department of Afro-American Studies, Howard University out of D.C., Eugene
Craig, CEO, X Factor Media, Inc. out of Baltimore.
The thing here, and I want to start with you, Eugene.
We saw what happened today.
The passing of this bill, only two Republicans voted no.
Ten Republicans voted no.
They held the vote open for a very long time in order to procure those two votes.
They wanted this bill to be voted upon
in the dead of the night,
but a Democrat leader, Hakeem Jeffries, said,
nah, that ain't gonna happen.
Y'all gonna have to sit here and listen to all of this.
I'm gonna play some of that later in the show.
And again, they're jumping up and down,
saying how this is just going to create
this new golden era of economics in the United
States, but they are actually putting this economy in peril with their actions.
Yeah, so I'll say that's right. I don't know if you're going to be, I had a disconnection for a
second. Yes, that, yeah, you.
But the thing is this, Roland,
they're putting the economy in peril.
The Fed chair has already said
that we would have lower interest rates
if not for tariffs, right?
And the one thing that's definitely gonna come out of this
is an increase in tariffs,
there's an increase in interest rates,
because hey, we're gonna run deficits,
we're gonna run debt up,
and now that's gonna be monetized. Part of the issue that Republicans take advantage of every
single time they get power is that the American public doesn't understand the relationship
between government spending, taxes. When your car is making a strange noise,
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comes to things like, hey, your interest rate that you're going to pay for your mortgage or
interest rate that you pay for your credit card or interest rate that you're going to pay for your mortgage or your credit card or the interest rate that you're going to pay on your car payment or the lack of interest rate that you're going to get
on your savings, right? And how inflation itself is an invisible interest rate that you may not see
on paper to fill every single day. So the austerity that was just passed today has been ahead of the
president's best. It's going to do nothing but hurt the American people. Shout out to Congressman Massey and Congressman Chris Patrick. It must be noted, you know, Brian comes from the
pure purple district and voted, you know, his conscience to protect his constituents,
talking about Brian and Patrick. Also of note, that's where we held our second and final
Republicans for Harris rally in his district. So he comes from a vice president of Harris one.
But the rest of the Republican caucus, shame on them.
The members of North Carolina and Georgia and Alabama, there isn't a Republican member
whose constituents is not going to be directly affected by this.
But in their eyes, because hey, a lot of these cuss won't take place in 2026, they think
it's all fun and
dandy and then they can blame the Democrats when they come into effect. But at the end of the day,
you know, they voted to harm the people that put them in office.
The thing here as we look at what has happened and as I said this hospital in Nebraska, rural
area in the district of Nebraska, Congressman Don Bacon who announced that
he was not going to be seeking re-election. So he didn't owe Donald Trump
anything so what did he do? He voted for the bill. Already this hospital leader
saying sorry Medicaid cuts there's no way we survive.
Those people now are not gonna be able
to have healthcare there.
This is the reality what we're dealing with,
that is going to be detrimental to the economy.
Absolutely, and we've seen this pattern before.
I remember being home in New Orleans for the Mardi Gras
when COVID was happening, but the
first Trump administration decided to tell Louisiana, to tell New Orleans that it was
safe for Mardi Gras to go ahead.
And a month and a half later, 14 members of my family died.
So we have a pattern where Trump thinks that if you pretend that the thing isn't happening or if you
shove it in a box long enough you can somehow be delusional enough and
convince other people to be delusional as if the thing isn't happening. With the
jobs report I'm gonna listen something is very fishy here as an academic I can
tell you across the board,
there are hiring freezes.
I cannot tell you how many emails Georgetown have sent
talking about we don't know what's gonna happen.
I have friends across the country from UCLA, USC, Harvard,
you name it, there are hiring freezes
and there's a lot of uncertainty
and people are losing their
jobs or hours are being cut back.
And I can tell you, as someone who just recently separated from the Department of State, where
over 3,000 people are on a chopping block for losing their jobs, across the federal
government, people have lost their jobs.
So something isn't adding up here.
Now, one thing that I did hear about the jobs report is, part of that number are them bringing
people back on that doge fired.
I don't know if that's true or not, but there's so many stories going on about the jobs report.
But I'm telling you from my own experience, and this isn't, you know, and I have the data
sitting in my e-mails, something isn't adding up.
People have lost their jobs, will continue to lose
their jobs, but somehow we're adding jobs to education and to the federal government. Something
is fishy. To that particular point, Morgan, I mean, look, we know, I put nothing past this administration. Now, normally what happens when
job numbers are revised up or down, that's based upon when new data comes in. And we've seen that
happen before. And so earlier when you said we've seen it before where there's a discrepancy between
ADP and the Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers.
How does that happen?
Why does that happen?
Just give us that understanding.
Yeah.
I mean, I might need to get even more information on it, but I agree with the main point that
we don't know what we don't know.
And when we look at what Congress could explain, I do think that this is something worth inquiry.
I mean, in addition to trying to speak out about the bill, it's like, this is a time
to be demanding specific investigations. That is another tool that Congress has to be able to
have them show their work. Right? But, I mean, based on, and again, I want to see some of the
sources that you're referencing, Roland, but based on what we know on the data that's available,
I don't know that there's evidence of cooking the books,
but I completely agree with all the trends that we're seeing.
There have been a lot of job losses.
And if there's something going on with what data is actually
being released to the public and it's not in its accuracy,
then we need to be ringing the alarm on that really quickly.
But at the end of the day, here's another thing that we
should probably all be focused on doing is showing the impacts already that are being felt. And I think we're seeing
this. Food banks are already having a hard time keeping up with demand, and they know that they're
not going to be able to continue to get the same level of resources that they've received before.
Roland, you were referencing the rural hospital that's announced that they're going to close.
There are a lot of institutions across the country that rely almost exclusively,
if not majority, on Medicaid patients and knowing that those resources aren't going
to be available.
So, uplifting those stories, telling what the impacts are and how it doesn't necessarily
jive with the official picture that's being presented by the government data, again, whether
true or completely accurate or not, I think is going to be very, very important as quickly
as we can.
You know, Greg, what was really interesting here, really interesting here, when you talk
about this particular bill, Republicans put a lot of this stuff, a lot
of this stuff, to hit in 2027, after the 2026 midterms.
To Morgan's point right here, but we know the immediate thing's going.
This, for everybody who's been saying, well, the Democrats, they're flailing, they have
no message.
The reality is they do now have one.
They now have something where they can say what we are for and what the people are against
based on what they've already done.
And we heard that in Leader Jeffrey's speech.
I'm going to unpack it a little bit further when we actually run that.
But people have to understand, you know, Trump has already said, hey, I've got more power.
He controls Republicans with an iron fist.
But this is a moment where Democrats are going to have to be nailing every day who this hurts,
who gets impacted.
And every time a hospital, a nursing home shuts down, they should pin that on Donald
Trump, Speaker Mike Johnson, and every single Republican that voted for this bill.
They absolutely should, Roe.
The response from the white nationalists will be, they're eating the dogs.
In other words, this is not logic.
Never underestimate the power of white supremacy.
As Joni Ernst said, everybody dies.
They would rather die than save their own lives if it means that somebody else gets some healthcare.
And so, yes, the Democrats do have a message.
And yes, Leader Jeffrey spoke for an impassioned almost nine hours today.
Yes, he broke a record.
And then they voted the way they were going to vote anyway.
I don't give any credit to Fitzpatrick.
Thomas Massey, who built his house with his own hands, is always going to do what he's
going to do.
He ain't scared of them. Fitzpatrick, after voting to advance legislation, left the House floor in the middle of the
night.
Why, he know he not going to win reelection.
He need to roll over these white nationalists like the seat.
Morgan, you know, as an economist, I really wonder if what your thoughts are at the macroeconomic
level about the United States. Thomas Flat Earth Friedman wrote in today's New York Times,
as this bill passed, he said,
can you hear it, that loud roar coming from the East?
It's the sound of 1.4 billion Chinese laughing at us
because in that bill, they're trying to revert to coal
and all that at the same time that the world
is moving forward with electric, with solar, with wind.
And so what do you think about the jobs of the future, the U.S. economy of the future,
as countries all over the world, Brazil and Mexico met this week, the EU trying to work
it out with England?
What?
Are looking for workarounds.
Canada talking about it might be an energy superpower in the near future.
As the world begins to work around
the United States of America,
what do you think is on the horizon
as Musk's electric vehicles, crater and sails?
If you go to Dubai, if you go to Malaysia,
what's on the streets, BYD, the Chinese car?
I mean, what does the future of the American economy
and the American worker look like
with the passage of this bill?
I can't say that anyone thinks the future is looking strong
based on what's coming out of this bill.
And there's a lot of uncertainty.
I mean, even like I referenced earlier
that we're seeing tech companies announce all these layoffs.
A lot of them they're saying are the result of AI,
and it's just the natural evolution of how things have to go based on how technology is developing.
No, that's been a fundamental problem in our country for a while, at least a few decades,
that we're just taking a lot of these companies at their word or letting them set the terms.
We are in a situation of having kind of like
private governments with these very large companies
that now have been able to buy off the government
and then it's kind of game over.
So that's a dynamic at play.
I think also, you know, just this level of like whiplash
in policy making, I mean, you can't plan a society
for the future if you're disinvesting in education,
if you don't have people that are healthy.
And so there's really no way to look at what's coming out of this bill and think, oh, great,
this is really setting us up very well to be competitive globally.
And I agree with you.
I mean, I think a lot of other parts of the world are starting to discount how much leadership
they'll see out of the United States for the foreseeable future.
And, you know, there's still potentially time to change course, but maybe not a lot of time.
Because with these types of cuts, with this lack of investment, with this lack of a plan,
with this level of corruption, it might not be that easy to flip the switch, even if we
do see a change in power in the
new administration in a few years or a change in the dynamics in Congress.
Here's a perfect example.
I'm sitting here, Politico has this story right here.
It says conservatives say Trump won their mega bill votes by promising crackdown on
renewable energy credits.
Texas Congressman Chip Roy said, quote,
we believe we're going to get 90 plus percent
of all future projects terminated.
You know, Morgan, to the point that Greg
what we're just stating is simple.
Where in the hell do you think the building is coming from?
Where in the hell do you think the building is coming from? Where in the hell do you think the new jobs are
that's why the trade union, that's why the electrical workers were posing this saying,
do you got, are you guys stupid? You've got a company that we're announcing
four and $500 million expansion projects. We've seen here complaining about the Chinese dominating America created. The solar energy, solar panels are an American invention and
they're just like, yo China, y'all going right ahead. I saw a story earlier that
said, let me see, double check, I think to double check. I think it was in Norway.
I think it said that 97% of all new cars in Norway
were electric vehicles.
And yeah, right here. In Norway, 90% of new cars sold in 2024
were fully electric, with the country aiming for all new cars sold by 2025 to be zero emission. Now, his was hilarious, Morgan. These right-wingers
go, oh, electric vehicles, man, that's hurting of the power grid. What's sucking up the power grid? These AI plants.
The data center.
So the data centers. So for people to sit here and for these Republicans to say,
oh, we should stop, like, forget all these electric vehicle stuff. I'm like, y'all are on crack. And the crack you're on are fossil fuels.
The reality, I mean, the real I mean, you know, I've got General Motors is delivering like on
Monday, to me, to me, a electric vehicle, we have to understand that this is real simple. You have to recognize where the future is.
This bill and Republicans, Morgan,
they only think and operate in the now.
They don't give a damn about the next 10, 20, 30 years.
And yeah, we're gonna be in for a serious issue
if the rest of the world says,
okay, America, we know you are the largest economy
in the world of $29 trillion. We, America, we know you are the largest economy in the
world of $29 trillion.
But we don't have to actually do stuff with you.
If we partner with one another, we can bypass you.
And that's going to be happening a whole lot over the next three years.
Yeah.
I think a couple of comments.
I mean, one, the big tech data center situation,
it absolutely impacts electricity.
I mean, they're cutting these deals,
they're gonna raise electricity prices,
but trying to spread the costs of that across all of us
and individual rate payers, not just themselves.
And that is a huge problem
and gonna increase costs for people.
And also water on the data centers extract a lot of water.
And that's another part of the utility story that isn't always talked about, but increased
water bills for people getting shut off, not having access to basic services.
Does that sound like a modern country to any of us?
I don't think so.
And so, again, beyond the economic perspective, it's just like the real inhumanity of what
they're doing is really tough to—it's tough to fully portray just the risks that
it's creating for a lot of Americans at all income levels.
It's like, even if you feel like you're pretty good now, these are just going to continue
to have ripple effects that I think will hit a lot of different economic classes.
And yeah, I mean, it's very easy now for—I mean, it'll be an adjustment even for some
of these countries to want to coordinate amongst themselves, but the incentive to do so is
very easy to calculate.
You cannot rely on the United States.
I mean, not having people feel comfortable coming here to do research, that's always
been one of the top benefits of coming to the U.S., you know,
having international people that either come
and gain knowledge and have a great impression of the U.S.
and go back wherever they're from
or come and love the education they got here
and invest in starting businesses and hiring people.
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And to create innovation, even within the government.
A lot of the private sector is just not incentivized to have the resources to do that, you know,
front loading of research and development to create the next break, next great healthcare
breakthrough or some kind of new technology.
Why do we have the internet now?
It's because there was government investment along the way that allowed engineers and scientists
to be able to invest in that learning and understanding that technology.
The private sector is never going to do that in the same way.
And so, yeah, this is potentially setting us back for a long, long time.
And it's just a clear corporate giveaway, even things that don't seem like they're
big corporate giveaways, going back to the immigration issue, you know, what is a lot of this funding going to go
towards?
Detention centers, detention centers.
Who owns detention centers?
The same people that are operating prisons.
This is not actually investing in any communities.
And it's just a complete giveaway to folks that already have a lot and are only going
to get more.
To that particular point, Nola, that people have to recognize, when you start having countries
begin to align and work together economically, then that has an impact also military.
That then impacts foreign policy.
And so people need to understand
that they may look at this bill
and look at the actions of these Republicans
only through the terms of America's interests,
but the world is watching what happened today.
They'll be watching when this bill is signed tomorrow. They will see how Donald Trump has shown that the
Republican Party is utterly feckless. They are unwilling to hold him
accountable. They're allowing him to do whatever it is they want to do. So the
world is watching and seeing that there literally
are no Republican guardrails to stop a madman from doing whatever it is that he wants to do.
And they are going to respond. And it's not going to be the way that we think
it always has been with our so-called allies.
that we think it always has been with our so-called allies. Absolutely.
The world is watching.
In many countries around the world, they have great health care.
I have been sick multiple times in different countries and left those hospitals without
having to pay a bill as a non-citizen.
Here we are stripping very vulnerable people of their health care.
And to your point, Roland, I'm glad that you kind of drew the intersection between what
happened today with that bill and also with our insecurity. What's very clear to me is,
is that this administration is not interested in being the leader of anything other than in defense, right?
And we saw an example of that when they bombed the three nuclear facilities in Iran.
The next day, Hegsett said, deterrence is back.
So that tells me, as a professional, as a security and defense professional, oh, OK,
so we are doing away with diplomacy.
We said, screw you to our allies and our partners.
And we think that having the biggest, baddest military, which we already do, but to have
it even bigger and even badder, then that's going to be the answer to everything, that
we are going to scare people into some sort of submission versus wanting to do the things
to lead in climate, to lead in energy, to lead in human rights.
We have completely walked away from all of our values in favor of deterrence.
So what that is going to do, that's going to increase an arms race around the world.
And there's already evidence of this happening. You know, in space, where I spend most of my day
in space security, we are going to see a huge buildup, an arms race in space, and that's also
going to happen here on Earth. So all of these things, they snowball, right? So, okay, so we
can't trust the United States.
We can't partner with them.
They're no longer our allies.
Therefore, now, we have to think about defense and offense in a way that, you know, insert
country hadn't thought about before.
Look at what this administration did with Ukraine.
They completely sidestepped Congress and refused to send Ukraine the weapons that was already
allocated to send to Ukraine.
We are beyond the pale here. No one can trust us. Who's going to want to do business with us?
And the last thing I will say is, the one thing that this administration has done,
as it's done many things in its six months, it has now positioned China
to be the number one superpower in the world. Yes, I said it.
Absolutely. And I'm going to tell you why.
Absolutely.
Because that's right.
They understand the gap, the diplomacy gap that we've left.
And they are absolutely stepping into that gap.
Now, they may have, you know, their own in, you know, their end goals in mind.
Every country does.
But Donald Trump has seeded all around to China.
I said what I said.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
We're rolling out.
Well, Eugene, they're far, these are, first of all,
I'm right here.
I didn't say that.
You done?
Eugene, Eugene, there are far reaching implications.
And I just want people to understand that the economic
piece we're talking about goes directly in line with military, with national security,
all of those different things. And the world is recognizing, the world sees how shameful and
dangerous, how much of a liar this man is.
They forced Zelensky to sign a mineral rights deal,
and now they're denying them weapons.
And the whole point of the deal was
to continue to supply weapons.
The world will not be trusting the United States.
The world will not believe things that we say economically.
And folks have better understand The world would not believe things that we say economically.
And folks had better understand
and be prepared for that to happen.
And look, Europe's responding very strongly.
They decided that, hey, instead of relying
on the American military industrial complex
that supplies with bombs and planes
and ships and everything else.
The EU said, look, you know, we're going to build ourselves a bigger army, a better
army, and we're also going to produce our own weapons.
You know, that's going to have a direct economic impact on American jobs here.
You know, one of the things that's often explained nowadays is, you know, a lot of the aid that
goes to Ukraine or goes to, or goes to any conflict that we decide
to support almost out of the other is that it's not necessarily money being dropped into
those countries.
It's, hey, the United States, the Pentagon is essentially buying resources from American
companies that are then supplying them to these regions in the world, whether it's
Ukraine or conflict in Africa or wherever.
So when Europe and other affiliate countries
are deciding that they're gonna produce their own
rather than purchase from us,
that's gonna have a direct effect on American jobs,
on American military producers,
both that make bombs, both that make bullets,
and everything else in between.
And it's a direct reflection of Donald Trump being in office.
It's a direct reflection of the lack of leadership
coming out of the current American presidency.
And it's a direct reflection of the rest of the world
having to stand up and standing again in real time.
Yeah, I actually thought when Rep. Sparks voted against the rule last Yeah, I actually thought, you know, when Sparks, when Representative Sparks voted
against the rule last night,
I actually thought her vote was gonna hold
because, hey, you know, her sole issue is Ukraine.
And they're cutting, and they're cutting the,
they're cutting from the Ukraine,
while at the same time, you know,
playing games with the weapons,
after forces of the Lindsey to sign the Minerals bill.
I thought that she was gonna hold, you know, I was wrong.
I guess at the end of the day,
Donald Trump gets what he wants.
Morgan, this thing is real. And again, folks just need to understand what we're going to be facing.
And so we will be, it's a lot we're going to be unpacking once this bill gets signed. And then
we start seeing the absolutely, and I'll say this, and I'm not being hyperbolic,
this bill is going to drop an economic nuclear bomb on America, especially rural America,
and be prepared for the orange and white tears to be flowing, because they're going to be
looking like a bunch of those Latinos who are Latinos for Trump and saying, I didn't think he was talking about me. Morgan Harper,
we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thanks for having me, Roland.
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You know what, there are so many different cases
that we cover on this show that sometimes
just leave you perplexed and you're like,
what the hell is going on?
Well, this story out of North Carolina is one of those.
Attorney Harry Daniels is representing the system in this and it's sort of
strange if you will what transpired here and so let me walk you through this
story okay Tamera Parker was wrongfully arrested Now, she loses everything being falsely accused of a crime. No
criminal record. She spends months trying to clear her name, loses her job, loses
her home. After police claim, she matched the description of a suspect and the description was a black woman. Now,
charges have been dropped against her. Her mugshot though, online, people can pull it up,
it's everywhere. And so imagine now you're trying to have to rebuild your life. Tadman,
her attorney, Harry Daniels joins us right now. Glad to have both of you on the show.
So what the hell, first of all,
what did they accuse you of doing?
And what was the description
and was that person actually ever apprehended
and they in any way resemble you?
I have no idea.
So what they said happened was someone, took someone's credit card
information, bought two Apple iPhones, and sent them to an advanced auto parts store.
I had no idea what was going on. I don't think that they ever got a suspect. I'm not too sure,
but not to my knowledge. I think I was- how do they, how do they get around to you?
Like what, like what, what, I mean, what, like what happened?
So I went into the store, the advanced auto parts store.
I went in on May the 16th of last year.
I was looking for a part.
I actually had the part in my hand and they didn't have it.
I got assistance from the store associate.
And then a little over a week later,
the police came to my house
and had a search warrant to search my home.
I had no idea why they were there,
but that was the only time I ever went into that store.
So the first time you ever go to this auto parts store,
you looking for a part, then all of a sudden a week later,
they're showing up at your house.
And when they show up at your house, what do they say?
I let them in because there was something that happened
in my daughter's school earlier that week.
So I just thought a teacher was arrested.
So I started thinking about that.
Like I thought they were coming in my house
to tell me something happened to my child.
So I let them inside to like see what they had to say.
And the guy just started like yelling,
like I just want to know if this is a one-time thing
or if you're a part of a ring.
And I had no idea what he was talking about.
So then he just kind of start going off.
So then he told me like what happened.
Well, he said first,
did you go into an advanced auto parts store?
And I said, yes, I went there last Thursday
to look for a part and I had to like part with me.
So that's when he told me,
that's when he told me what I was accused of.
And at first I thought it was a joke
because who would do something like that?
That was like the craziest thing I've ever heard of.
So then like I opened up my wallet,
I'm like, hey, you can look and see,
like I don't have anyone's information,
like I own my home, I have like a good credit score,
equity, stuff in my home,
I have reasons to do something like this,
this is like the most ridiculous thing.
But yeah, he was very aggressive.
thing. But yeah, he was very aggressive.
That is, so Harry, what's crazy to me is if you're the store, you have surveillance video,
if she didn't, like the video should show if a card was taken, used or whatever the heck,
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A case that we could not pass up based on the extraordinary
and disbelief of what happened to this, this, this Tamara.
No surveillance cameras, no outside cameras or surveillance cameras in the store at Advanced
Auto Park in Dallas, North Carolina.
She simply went into the store May 16th to pick up a part for her husband.
She went to Advanced Auto Park, the next door.
They didn't have the party either.
What transpired was that, like she said,
somebody sent these files to the store.
And subsequently, one of the sales associates at the store
said that the person had came back in the store
after police went to the store to pick up the phones,
and came back into the store,
and they took a picture of the person's license plate.
Well, that day was May 20th.
On May 20th, Tamara was nowhere around the store. In fact, she was at a kid's pre-K graduation,
other kid's graduation, elementary school graduation, out with family, nowhere near the store.
And law enforcement knew it, because when they they took the phones and she freely gave the pass
code to the phones once they had the search warrant, and they did forensics on the phones,
a rolling.
And at the forensics, they found that she was not at the store on the date that that
sales associate alleged that she was there.
They knew that she did not commit this crime.
Nevertheless, they pursued it.
They got a warrant for her
arrest. She was arrested. She lost everything, a job, great job, a good reputation, mugshot,
a home is now for a closure, for sale. She's multiple months, several months behind, and
she's currently under the care of a doctor. You know, this is—and she's unemployable at the time, because she was an insurance
agent, and nobody wants to hire anybody who's been accused of stealing identity fraud or
identity theft, especially when you have public trust and you deal with a public identity
on a day-to-day basis, day-to-day basis.
But these are one of those cases that law enforcement—Ova Zell is law enforcement,
a clerk that—we will get to the bottom of what happened here, because she clearly gave
false information to the police that Ms. Parker was in the store and she was not.
We're going to find out where that come from.
And not just that, law enforcement completely ignoring innocence, exculpatory evidence, and pushing for some
agenda that left this family upside down, literally, with finances and in a place that
anybody could have been in, especially the Parkers family, where she was a law-abiding
citizen, hard-working taxpayer, no criminal record, making money, own her own home, equity, savings,
accounts, good credit, and all of a sudden,
all of that was taken from her as a blink of an eye.
So we got a lot of work to do.
We're going to pursue this case,
and we're going to make sure we get some justice
from this park.
Kameron, how long did you spend in jail?
It was only a few hours.
On paper it said like 15 minutes.
When I went in, of course I was talking like, hey, you guys have the wrong person.
And they were just like, well, this detective, he doesn't make mistakes.
He's the best.
And he wouldn't be doing this unless he has solid evidence.
And I'm like, he doesn't.
So when they took me in,
I just kept saying like, you guys have the wrong person,
but they did like the intake.
I went and talked to the magistrate
and the magistrate said I can leave,
like gave me the paperwork, you know,
said he'd unsecured bond.
He even made a joke like,
Ms. Parker, do you have a ticket or any speeding tickets?
And I'm like, when I was like 19 or 20,
and so he basically told me I was leaving.
I didn't leave.
They put me in a hold and seal after the magistrate unsecured my bond and told me I could leave.
Yeah, Roland, just to add, this is—and the evidence and what I just told you and the
facts of this case, it's not speculative.
This is what is in the discovery, the criminal discovery.
I'm not making it up. This is what the DA had and what the DA reviewed this discovery.
And a lot of times, the DA don't review discoveries until they get an indicted case.
He immediately dismissed this case with insufficient evidence.
Dismissed it.
We have the dismissal.
We have the evidence to show.
And we look forward to pursuing this case.
And this just goes to show that that even when you're doing right,
when you're doing good, you're doing everything good,
you're not breaking the law, you've been a law-abiding citizen.
And sometimes, being black in America
is the only crime you committed.
And this woman and her family has done nothing wrong,
and they are in a position where they need help, obviously,
and we're here to help them and get some redress for them.
All right, then. Well, surely we hope you are able to do that because, again, this is the last thing a lot of people would ever want to have to deal with. Thanks a lot. Take care, Rola.
Thank you. Folks, we come back. We'll show you some of the speech, the record setting speech of House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries that took place this morning. We hours of the morning leading into
almost midday. We'll show you that, but also unpack how I truly believe that he laid out the
blueprint for Democrats taking back the house in 2026.
We'll show you that and explain next right here on Roller Martin Unfiltered
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tried to put her life back together and so this is it right here so, less than $1,400 has been raised.
And so again, you see it right here.
And so go to GoFundMe, type in her name or type in wrongfully accused, trying to rebuild
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And there you go.
All right, folks, a record setting speech from Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries speaking
against Donald Trump's so-called big, beautiful bill, which is really a big, ugly, dangerous bill.
Jeffries broke the record set in 2021 by then-minority leader, Kevin McCarthy, which was eight hours
and 32 minutes.
He spoke today for eight hours, 44 minutes and 25 seconds.
Here is some of what he had to say.
But the aspirational part of the Declaration of Independence,
of course, that is often famously quoted.
But then if you read other parts of the Declaration
of Independence, extraordinarily written document,
it lists, it reads like an indictment against the kings, I think of King George, it reads like an indictment
against King George's flood the zone strategy.
It reads like an indictment against King George's shock and awe strategy.
It reads like an indictment against what I think may have been to Project 1776.
And you look at this indictment, and one of the things it effort to stop the assimilation of people from other
parts of the world into the United States of America.
So we understand that from the very beginning of this great country, there was a recognition, of course,
of the importance of immigration to the success and vitality
of the United States of America.
And let me be clear, Mr. Speaker,
so there's no misrepresentation.
As House Democrats, we understand the importance, the urgency of securing the border.
We believe that our immigration system is, and that it should be fixed
in a comprehensive and bipartisan way.
So many leaders in that effort, so many big ideas
were willing to partner in a bipartisan way.
Pramila Jayapal, Linda Sanchez, Adriano Espayat,
Tom Swazzi, so many others.
Veronica Escobar, we want to partner
to fix our broken immigration system
in a bipartisan and comprehensive way, secure our border.
But we're also gonna make sure we stand up
for our nation's heritage,
a nation of immigrants,
which continues
to this very day. It's an important part
of American exceptionalism, and as far as I can tell
in my reading of the original document,
the writings of the founders of this great country,
the framers of the Constitution, they recognized it
from the very beginning.
They weren't perfect.
We didn't have a perfect start.
But of course, as the preamble
to the United States Constitution set forth,
we the people in order to form a more perfect union.
Mr. Speaker, we've been set on this magical course.
Our march toward a more perfect union.
And the immigration journey has always been
an important part of the American journey.
That's why it's heartbreaking to see some of the things
that are happening in the country right now.
The targeting in such an extraordinary way
of law-abiding immigrant families,
including American citizens, how can this be
in the United States of America?
Some people who might suggest that we should stay away from these stories, no, I'm gonna lean into this
part of the American journey.
Because we support our heritage as a nation of immigrants.
We're gonna stand up for dreamers, stand up for farm workers,
stand up for law-abiding immigrant families all across this country.
You as citizen children have been deported, Mr. Speaker. Is this who we become in the United States of America?
How can this be?
This is extraordinary. a two-year-old American named Manu Borges Santos,
was born in Fort Lauderdale, Florida,
in September of 2022.
February, she was taken into custody in Florida alongside her mother and father,
both of whom
were undocumented.
And as a result of this situation, we're fed up with Project 1775.
And so they implemented Project 1776.
So I know that there are people concerned with what's happening in America, but understand
what our journey teaches us is that after as part of Project 2026.
I love the framers.
They gave us a blueprint.
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I want to close by referencing someone who we all serve with.
I want to stand on the shoulders if it's okay on some of our civil rights heroes and
foot soldiers. Those whose character, whose conviction, whose courage should give the American people hope
at a moment of great despair. serving with Congressman John Lewis.
It's a great honor, Mr. Speaker, to serve something that John Lewis said in June of 2028, that hopefully, no matter
what the outcome of this vote, will give people some hope.
Great John Lewis said, do not get lost in a sea of despair.
Be hopeful.
Be optimistic.
Our struggle is not the struggle of a day, a week, a month, or a year.
It is the struggle of a lifetime.
That's our struggle.
No matter what, Mr. Speaker, you decide to do today.
That's our struggle.
Standing on the shoulders of John Lewis, that's our struggle.
Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get into good trouble.
Good trouble.
Good trouble.
Necessary trouble.
Standing on the shoulders of giants,
John Lewis would often talk to us about his admiration for Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Dr. King, who would refer to John Lewis as the boy from Troy.
Now what's interesting to me, that civil rights movement, we can learn a lot from it.
Started December of 1955, and Rosa Parks sat down on that bus so that all of us could have
the courage to stand up.
Wasn't an easy struggle.
All the odds were stacked against these civil rights heroes and foot soldiers.
And during the early days of the movement, a difficult part of the movement, Dr. King, after they've been targeted, arrested, beaten, harassed by the authorities, he traveled
to Brooklyn, New York, and spoke at the Concord Baptist Church, I think it was in March of 1956.
And he said to a group of people of every race, every religion, every life experience,
the Concord Baptist Church in Bedford-Stuyvesant said to them, no matter what the odds, we've got to press
on.
Press on.
Press on.
Press on.
Like the King said, that if you can't fly, run.
That's right.
If you can't run, walk. If you can't run, walk.
If you can't walk, crawl.
But at all times, press on.
And keep pressing.
And so as I take my seat, I just want to say to the American people
that no matter what the outcome is on this singular day, we're going to press on.
We're going to press on.
We're going to press on for our children, press on for our seniors, press on for our
veterans, press on for our unions, press on for our farmers, press on for our dreamers,
press on for working class Americans, press on for the middle class. Press on for all who aspire to be part of the middle class.
Press on for the poor. Press on for the sick. Press on for the afflicted. Press on for the least. Press on for the lost.
Press on for the left behind. Press on for the rule of law. Press on for the American way of life.
Press on for democracy.
We're going to press on until victory is won.
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Gentlemen from Massachusetts. So let me unpack what happened.
Jeffries did not tell his Democratic caucus that this is what he was going to do.
And that was a very smart thing.
You had some Democrats who were bitching and moaning saying, well, he could have given
us some heads up and where we would have booked multiple flights and you know that that would have been nice. Well,
no, because those idiots would have leaked it. Okay. So let me explain to you why this
speech was so important. And I see all these people, I see all these old really smart people,
folks all on social media. That was a waste of time.
He was just up there. I mean, Oh my God, he's horrible.
He's not shown any leadership.
All that,
all of that talking, all of that whining,
all of that, all that.
The reason they're wrong is that if you listen to this speech,
and I listened to most of it, what he did was he literally laid out the Democrats agenda to retake the House.
You heard him say you have Project 2025 when next year there will be Project 2026.
Y'all, that literally is the name of what the, this is, that's the name that Democrats
should adopt as their battle plan for next year.
So first of all you call it project 2026 because the project is to retake the house in 2026. If you
listen to the speech he talked about he spent lots of time talking about healthcare, talking about food, talking
about housing.
Hello, that's the agenda. And there was a Republican who somebody posted that this bill does this for food, does this
for education and does something else.
And this Republican has goes, yes, exclamation point so that Republican is cheering all of those things at that
that this bill has done you take David Valedale of California Republican 64%
of his district relies on Medicaid. Whoever is running against him,
that's all you run on. And you go after that 64%. See,
I don't know what people want. I saw one woman, uh,
she sat here and she was talking about, Oh my God, this has been
awful. It's this is that they have a trifecta y'all.
Republicans don't, they Republicans did not need any Democrat votes in the
house to pass the bill.
They didn't get any.
They use the reconciliation process in the Senate, which only required a simple majority
and not 60 votes.
Didn't need them.
And obviously, Trump sitting in the White House.
So for all these people who kept going, Democrats should have fought harder.
Can you please tell me what the hell and I love what all these people
say this. I would really love to tell me what meme, what graphic, what statement
Jeffries or any of them could have posted or stated that was going to stop
this bill from happening.
it that was going to stop this bill from happening. See a lot of the people who are complaining, a lot of the people who are so upset, a lot
of those folk were the ones who were bitching last year and who were not focused on turning
people out.
One of the reasons that Vice President Kamala Harris lost is because Democrats didn't turn
out. You had all these disaff President Donald Harris lost is because Democrats didn't turn out.
You had all these disaffected Democrats over the issue of
gossip. You had young folks who were upset by that. You had
folks who said that Biden was too old. You had folks who
said, oh, we shouldn't have had Harris. Oh, we shouldn't be
focusing on transgender. We should be focusing on GEI. And
you had Democrats who were just, oh my God, it's awful.
These are bad. Where's this? awful things are bad where's this where's that where's this yet Republicans got in line
how did Republicans pass this bill how did they go from losing 217 to 207, holding the vote open and then converting the
holdouts.
It's because they fell in line because they said you can't get everything that
you want, but we're gonna get this bill right now. See, I keep saying Democrats have a
history of snatching defeat for the jaws of victory.
So right now, again, if you listen to what Jeffrey said, house Democrats should be
absolutely focused and fixated. Project 2026 pull up the graphic. The D triple
C. I showed this the other day on the show. They sat here and they showed the 35 districts in play. That means right now what Democrats
should be doing, they should have the data and they also do, they should have
the data of every single one of those districts and how many people in those districts depend on Medicaid. What they
should be having is how many people in those districts depend on SNAP benefits.
What they should be doing is breaking down how every single time a hospital in
one of those districts closes down, the Democrats
should be holding a news conference in front of that hospital. Every time a
nursing home in those districts shuts down, they should be holding, they should
be holding news conference in front. Person says in the chat, I disagree,
you don't adopt your opponent's slogan. You're not adopting this slogan. What you're doing
is you're offering a counter to your opponents.
Y'all pull, pull the graphic up.
We have a shirt that says y'all see my shirt. No, not that graphic.
My shirt says, don't believe it. Don't blame me for the black woman.
We have a shirt that we're sell selling. And it says,
FAFO 2025 project crossed out.
Cause that's exactly what is about to happen.
What is about to happen right now is that rural America is about to be decimated.
You know who that is?
White people, conservative white people decimated.
It's about to happen. See people. Yeah, this is very simple. All
the Democrats have to do is win five seats.
Five. Pull that list up again. One of those folks on that graphic is Don Bacon. Don Bacon announced he's retiring.
Don Bacon represents Omaha, Nebraska.
He represents the district where that hospital announced today
they were shutting its doors because of what happened
today with Medicaid.
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Democrats, is that sometimes they too damn smart. Sometimes they trying to make this thing. So all my God and
all my God, I hate all this and we ain't doing this and when we
ain't doing that and we should be doing this and we all know
he is this and Jeffress, no, he should be doing this here.
Then you asked him what specifically well, I don't really
know.
I can't really tell you that that's really not my job.
What the hell you talking about then?
Folks, I'm telling you
national Democrats. And I'm saying this for a reason.
This is where national Democrats should be.
Everything is 2026. Everything is 2026. Yes, you're going to defend your districts, but
there are 35 vulnerable Democrats. All you need are five. You win five out of the 35, you control the house.
Republicans know it.
Donald Trump is going to try to get everything he could get past between
now and November, 2026, because he knows what's coming.
And I'm telling you, folk need to stop sitting here and complaining.
Oh my God.
I'm gonna tell y'all something right now.
You could bring back from the dead Sam Rayburn.
You could bring back Tom Foley.
You can bring back Skipp O'Neal.
You can bring Nancy, you can bring Nancy Pelosi back.
There's nothing that Nancy Pelosi could have done to stop this bill.
Because they don't have the power.
The only way you stop Trump and MAGA Republicans is if you seize power.
And national Democrats had better be locked in loaded on 2026.
Virginia Democrats had better be locked in loaded on maintaining the
house in November, maintaining the House in November, maintaining the Senate in November,
and taking the Governor's mansion and taking out that Black MAGA Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears.
That means Spanberger
had better stop running this middle-of-the-road milk toast campaign and she better be talking
of the road milk toast campaign and she better be talking and speaking to and energizing black voters who make up 20% of the state.
You can not stop someone from doing something and you cannot advance your agenda if you
do not have the power.
Good one, panel. I want to go to you first, Greg.
If people actually stop getting so caught up in theatrics and,
oh, the person didn't move me, I wasn't excited,
he really laid out what Democrats stand for
and how to counter Republicans.
Your thoughts.
Well, brother, with all due respect to Leader Jeffries,
the words of Malcolm X,
you're speaking a language they don't understand.
I thought that it was as strong a speech as I've heard Hakeem Jeffries give. I think that
if we lived in a nation, it would be the opening salvo of a project that could
possibly work.
But we don't live in a nation. We live in a country with a lot of different nations in it.
You've got a president of the United States who is mentally ill, who is a racist,
who called the winner of the New York Democratic primary in New York for mayor, a communist radical
threatening to deport him.
And Leader Jeffrey's understanding that his position is to keep the Democratic party together
defended Mamdani but stopped short of endorsing him.
I wasn't moved by the speech.
And it's not necessary for me to be moved by the speech, because I know that in order to advance,
we don't have to be moved by rhetoric.
I'm gonna support whatever and whoever
is going to advance the interests of our common humanity.
But I can't help in this moment.
But think about Dr. King,
not in the immediate wake of the Montgomery Bus Boycott
where Leader Jeffrey spoke to in 1956,
but in 1968, Dr. King understood very well
where we live and what we had to do.
And what we have done in this country
in terms of electoral politics,
what we have done is tacked toward
that middle you're talking about, Roland,
and the results have been a diminishing return
in terms of black political power
since its peak in the 1970s.
I think there are probably more than a handful of people
listening today and who are watching
today, and I know you remember the battle between Julian Bond and John Lewis for that
congressional seat coming out of Georgia.
See, white nations are terrified.
Brutal.
And they were terrified of Julian Bond.
John Lewis, not so much. See, the idea that you can appeal
to the humanity of a white supremacist.
I understand you got to refer to the founding fathers and you got to refer to those criminals,
those fleeing felons that had your ancestors captive. I understand you got to say what you
got to say. But I'll all in with this. I hope what you said is in fact what these, what the democratic leadership
will do. I hope that they will overwhelm these white supremacists. I hope they will not
leave the congressional progressive caucus out on a limb. I hope that they will show the same
energy they used to, every time somebody showed up
that wanted to fight with both fists, whether it be Cory Bush and now Wesley Bell is in
the damn legislature, whether it be Nina Turner and now Santel Brown is in.
I hope they show that same energy when it's time to fight these white supremacists and
punch them in the face.
Social media, I saw one of these young people call the leader Jeffries, Apex Shakur.
Listen, let's be crystal clear now.
You've got to fight these people.
So that same energy that was in that speech, we need to now see it in dollars, we need
to see it in organization, and you need to see that in
Solidarity with people you might not agree with on everything
But you cannot now turn around and try to walk that middle the road because if they take the house and get and take it
By one vote or two votes those quote unquote conservative Democrats or soft white nationalists who were then caucus with the Republicans or at least cast their
Vote with Republicans. That's when you know that the middle, as Dr. King said, that lukewarm thing, the worst
enemy we got, the white liberal, when we read, where do we go from here, chaos or community,
comes out to play.
This is a, this is, this can be a turning point.
Let me just stop because I'm not going to say what I trusted in that because we got
to do the right thing either way.
But shouting good trouble and no, man, you speaking a language they don't understand, brother.
The thing here, Eugene, when I talk about in terms of how do you move forward,
the thing here which is critical is that for all of these Democrats who are mealy mouth whining,
complaining about Mom Donnie,
they're idiots.
Because what they're not doing is
they're not asking the right question.
And the right question to ask is, how did he win?
They're not asking.
They're not asking.
They're not asking, they're not asking, how did he run a smart, sophisticated, targeted
campaign that spoke to the present day needs of the voters, that studied those who set out previous elections that activated them, that
piqued their interests and that turned out.
That's why the Bill Atkins of the world, they can all be praising Eric Adams and all sorts
of stuff like that.
I'm telling you right now, I don't think for us, there's no doubt. I think he wins the general election because what the
people, what progressives, what Democrats, what people who lean Democrat, what people
want is they want to see somebody who is speaking in to them in a way that is addressing their real life issues, who is not talking to them
from 30,000 feet, but who is doing what Joe Madison said, you got to put it where the
ghost can get it.
And look, I hope Democrats find a new learner lesson, right?
Because they had an opportunity when AOC beat Carly and learn a lesson, right? Because they had opportunity when AOC beat Carly
and she got elected, right?
And this New York election is a much one,
a much broader demo, much broader landmass,
but it's one more time, another catalyst.
Last week we had a discussion,
after your interview with Jasmine Crockett
about how them leadership should
be using their assets like a Jasmine Crockett or a Maxwell Frost. But most importantly,
going back to Speaker Jeff, I mean, well, it's hated as well, eventual Speaker Jeff
leads a speech early today. What he was meticulous to do is he called out every single targeted swing seat that
could be easily won by a shift of five couple points.
When he called out Mulatto, when he called out Lawler, I mean, some folks even, you know,
there's typically an unspoken rule within a delegation that you don't attack within
your own delegation.
But he understands that, hey, three of those five swing seats can come straight out of
New York, right?
And so he called out his own delegation members, put the targets on their backs.
He laid out an agenda.
I do think that part of what needs to happen, especially with the outside groups, is that
the conversations have to take— the conversation that has to take
place is, hey, look, people sat out this last election, and when people were saying, hey,
give me power so that I can help you, you didn't, and now you're looking at these people to help
you. You can't make that same mistake in 2026. You can't look at a Hakeem Jeffries or, you know, Dem leadership in the House or the
Senate and say, you know, oh, do XYZ to stop this. Well, the math is really simple in both
of these chambers, and the rules are even simpler. It's majority rule. The majority
rule of minority rights, right, says political science 101, every single class, you know,
compared to politics, political science, policy science, any 101 class, the first thing you
learn about Americans in government is that it's majority rule,
majority rule, minority rights.
But it's still majority rule.
Now, what people have to understand is that
you have to give the people that are looking out
for your interests power to look out for your interests.
You can't come to them six months, eight months,
a year later and say, what are you doing?
You're doing nothing.
Well, hey, because of the way the system's structured, I don't have power to do anything.
So, you know, today, you know, Leader Jeffries laid out on the House floor a House-Dem agenda.
He called out, you know, members that represented constituencies, which effectively is, hey,
the Dem leader reached out his hands to these constituencies, which effectively is, hey, the dumb leader reached out his hands to these
constituencies saying, listen, if the people that you voted for, that you elected, are going to give
away, you know, give away everything and not protect you, then give us the opportunity to actually work
and look, I think you're going to see a wave, you're going to see a 2010,
2017, 18 wave election in 2016.
18-wave election and 2026.
Noah, one of the things that Bishop William Barber does that I think is brilliant
is that when they have their rallies, they do not allow politicians to speak.
They let impacted people speak. You heard Jeffries read letters from individuals in those Republican districts talk about Medicaid education, people with disabilities.
Every, and what I'm speaking to right now, Nola, are those white Democratic
strategists who keep running bullshit campaigns that don't resonate.
What you do right now, you are collecting and you are amplifying impacted people in
every single one of those 35 districts and you use them like a battering ram against
the Republicans to take them out in 2026? Your comments.
You know, what I heard in that speech is, three words keep resonating with me.
We the people, we the people, we the people.
That's what leapt out to me.
I thought that this rhetorical device was used strategically
as part of the congressional Senate
and Hill content creators program,
I have access to congressional members.
I've been a part of this fight pretty much since the beginning.
I've been on the Hill at two, three,
four o'clock in the morning talking to people who are outside on the steps in the rain,
and then also go inside and talk to members.
One of the things that everyone was saying,
but had a hard time trying to figure out how to say it,
was we are here for the people.
And that is what I heard in Speaker Jeffreys,
Leader Jeffreys, people keep manifesting that.
That's what I heard in his nine hours.
For me, it wasn't necessarily about him
being the next this generation's orator.
I saw it as strategic.
And one of the ways in which I saw it as strategic was he brought this bill into the daylight.
And this is where I think the Dems were very successful.
People are talking about this bill in a way that they would not have been talking about
it if the pressure was not on, if multiple needs were not on multiple necks.
And to your point, Roland, just last night,
I was in historic Black Chats liquor store last night,
they had a whiskey tasting,
and it was a smattering of Americans.
And there was this one, there was this young white male
who was a Democrat from Alabama.
He said, I am uneducated,
and I have been a blue collar worker my entire life.
And he said, I get really annoyed
because the Democratic Party feels so elite
that I am not a part of the party,
but I've always been a Democrat.
My wife's a Democrat.
We moved to DC so she could work here,
and I picked up my life to support her dream,
because that's how much I believe in this.
So we the people needs to mean exactly that you have to keep reminding people you have to also
bring uh southerners into this conversation and not just five minutes before a national election.
They need to be part of this conversation.
They need to be engaged in a way
that has not happened in a very long time.
People need to understand what's at stake in this bill.
And let me tell you something about Southerners.
One thing they understand is their health.
One thing they understand are their doctor's appointments.
Like most of their days are actually spent
around their doctor's appointments. Like most of their days are actually spent around their doctor's appointments. So this is an issue that
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So while the Republicans won this for Donald Trump,
they did not win for the people.
And to your point, Roland,
that's what Democrats have to keep reminding people of.
They won this for Trump, not for them.
We the people, we the people, we the people.
Here's a perfect example of what I just think is dumb.
Progressive, Emma, where is it?
It was just dumb. And this is what just drives me crazy.
Hold up, let me find it right here. I can't believe she posted this. Emma Viglen, she
goes, you know, it would have been great. She goes, maybe if Democrats spent weeks
leading a mobilization effort against the bill, a national strategy with rallies in key districts, instead of having meltdowns about Zircon,
I'd be a bit more enthusiastic about Jeffrey's grand plan to delay the vote until the afternoon.
What was stupid is they did that.
One of the reasons this bill was so unpopular in the polls is because Democrats literally
were holding town halls in Republican districts.
See, this is the stupid stuff that drives me crazy with progressives who act like stuff
isn't happening, who go, oh, okay, they gave a long speech this afternoon.
The thing is this, right, I'll jump in here. What pisses, Eugene, go ahead, go ahead.
Oh, no, no, the thing is this,
what progressives have to understand
is what conservatives also have to learn, right?
And then actually,
it's finally switched up their pay book
for an Obama care saga. Everything, you're not gonna stop the bill, right? And then actually finally switched up their pay book on the Obama care saga.
Everything, you're not going to stop the bill, right? But what you do is you use the moment to
build for the party and the power that you want come next cycle. In 2010, Republicans were in
the worst worst position Democrats are right now, and they rallied and lined
people up and had people, you know, flood Congress during the passage of Obamacare.
The bill was going to get passed, but you used the moment to build to what you want.
Speaker Jeffries actually used a tool, right, and it's actually unique, literally to just
the leader of the party.
Only the leader gets unlimited talking and speaking time.
So essentially, use the only years of a house filibuster
to maximize the moment.
And these progressives who probably have never given
to a candidate, who probably never knocked on the door,
who's probably never run for office themselves,
probably isn't involved in their local deal,
Democrat apparatus in one
way shape or form. I can go to twitter or facebook. No I just I don't do that. I'm sorry. Don't do
that. Greg go ahead. Okay don't do that. Don't do that. Let's be very clear. You know this is not
we need to stop acting as if we are in a high school civics classroom.
These are white supremacists.
When you see Mike Johnson, when you see Steve Scalise, and they behind the desk doing their
little dance a couple of hours ago, Steve Scalise was protected by a black woman and
black law enforcement when somebody tried to take his life, and that punk-ass racist continues to be a white supremacist.
This isn't a two-sides thing.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I got a lot of friends who are alter-radical.
They're like, listen, are they both parties the same?
Duopoly, I'm constantly in rolling nose.
You've been beating that back as well.
But this is something else.
Yes, Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders have been out there,
and then, you know, you've
got Eric Swalwell go out and now they're starting to do that. But the Democrats are turning.
Let me be very clear about this. This isn't Democrats versus Republicans. This is white
supremacists and billionaires versus everybody. If you're not going to do that, what you said
before and Roland said as well is very important. How did Mamdani
organize? He spoke to issues. He was sharp, he was fast, he knows what he's doing. He's
33 years old, he's making these great videos, he's going to get an egg and cheese in the
bodega and he's tying it to taxes and billionaires getting breaks and he's saying, you know,
we got to free these buses, we're going to have some community, some city-owned grocery
stores. And guess what? He wins after all those people,
including all those Negro politicians in New York City,
elected officials that lined up behind a man
who should never have office again,
Andrew Cuomo, like they were saluting the flag.
I'm looking at Greg Meeks over the shoulder
of Hakeem Jeffries sitting there.
And when Cuomo lost, Bill Ackman and all them racists
went and pulled Eric Adams out the grave and said,
stand up and salute.
And Lord, the Democrats have done not a damn thing.
So here's the thing.
You're not gonna compromise with a white supremacist.
And beating up the progressives is a recipe for a loss
for the Democratic Party in 2026.
Put that in the book, brother.
All I'm saying is very simple.
And that is the reason Jeffrey's speech today was important
is because you've got to have something
that you begin to galvanize people around.
You couldn't just say, oh, like I'm telling you,
I'm just sick of these progressives who think that,
oh, they could have somehow stopped this.
The question now is, if you despise this bill,
what are you going to do now?
I am quite sure that there were numerous times
Dr. King and Ralph Abernathy and, and, and, and September
Clark and Fannie Lou Hamer, I'm quite, I'm quite sure there were numerous times, James
Foreman, James Farmer, I'm quite sure there were numerous times, A. Philip Randolph, where
they were just frustrated and they was like, what, I feel like I'm speaking into the wind.
But the reason they kept speaking, the reason they kept protesting is because they understood
it's the constant churn and it's the awakening of people. And what's going to happen when
this bill gets signed, the cuts begin to happen and people begin to cry. They then begin to
cry first, then they begin to cry out, and then when they cry out, they then are looking
for some place to go. They're looking for some place to join. They're looking for some
place to tap into, and so the responsibility of Democrats, of progressives, of civil rights
groups and nonpartisan groups is to be able to say, we have created the place for you
to come. We are a place for you to join. We're a place for you to sign up. We want you to
engage in this. That is the point of it. But it is ludicrous to sit here and go, I beg God, he just spoke so long. It was a long speech. It did
nothing. Everybody knew his speech was not going to somehow
cause Republicans to go, oh my God, a lightning bolt has hit
me. The Lord is speaking to my spirit and therefore I'm going
to change my vote. No
They knew the Lord that they serve the little G God they serve is
Donald Trump
But the whole point there is if I could give somebody a sliver of hope
Give somebody a sense that we hear you and we understand you then we can go from there
But see here's the challenge now.
The challenge now for Leader Jeffries,
the challenge now for DNC Chair Ken Martin,
the chair now for Chuck Schumer,
the chair now for the PACs and consultants
and the candidates and the activists.
The challenge for them now is what are you going to do
after July 3rd?
What are you going to do after the bill is signed July 4th? What are you going to do after July 3rd? What are you going to do after the bill is signed July 4th?
What are you going to do on July 5th and 6th and 7th
and 8th and 9th and 10th and 11th and 12th and 13th
and 14th and on and on and on?
That's really what the challenge is.
And so when you have people who are in a position
who are ready to take action, that now means
that if you're Jeffress, you're going out and you're recruiting Candace in every single
race.
That means that you're sitting here crafting a message.
That means that you are stopping and bitching and moaning out Mom Donnie and studying his
campaign and studying his commercials and studying his strategy and looking at how they
did it because what you're going to have to do in that district where they have 64% on Medicaid, you're going
to have to go get those folks because they don't vote.
You're going to have to not go out and try to convince some Republicans to vote for you.
I'm sick and tired of hearing Democrats say, we're going to have to, yes, and Yank, Guber
and others, we have to listen to them.
No, we don't. We don't have to listen to them.
We don't have to talk to them.
What you have to do is activate the 90 million folk who don't vote.
You have got to be able to reach them in a certain way.
And that folks is how you win.
And I guarantee you, y'all can write it down right now at 7-11 PM Eastern on July 3rd, 2025,
that if Democrats have the courage to sit amongst the people and not talk to the people,
not preach to the people, but listen to the people and engage the people and then activate the people, then you are
going to see a blue wave sweep across this country come November 2026.
And then they'll be able to say it all began with an eight hour and 44 minute and 25 second speech on July 3rd that exposed this nasty, ugly, dangerous bill
for the whole nation to see and did not allow it to be passed in the middle of the night.
The question is for folk watching, for folk who are tweeting, for the folk who are posting,
for the folk who are complaining, the question you who are posting, for the folk who are complaining,
the question you now have to answer, I go back to that movie, The Untouchables, when
they're in the balcony, in the church balcony.
You got Kevin Costner.
That's right.
He's sitting here across from Sean Connery. He said, Connery said,
what are you prepared to do, Elliot Ness? Well, I'm prepared to do whatever I need to do
under the law. He said, then what are you prepared to do? Then. He said, when one
day come at you with a knife, you come at them with a gun. One of them put your
people in the hospital, you put one of them in anymore.
He said, that is the Chicago way.
And that is how you do it. But he said,
what the question is Mr. Ness,
what are you prepared to do?
And that is the question that I have for the more than 5,000 of y'all
watching right now for the folks who are listening if you want to see something
change I don't need you you can't vote today what you can do right now is go
out and inform and educate and enlighten tell folk to watch this show tell people
what needs to happen and we need to be sitting here letting them know what's going on and what happens and what closes
and what gets shut down and who gets affected.
We're going to be telling these stories.
And then when the time comes to pull that trigger at the ballot box,
we rain holy hell on these evil, despicable people, vote them out of office.
And then we say after 2026, JD Vance and everyone else,
we coming after you in 2028 and you sit here
and run over them like a locomotive train.
But that cannot happen if folk sit on the sidelines
and whine and complain.
Nola had to go.
Let me thank Greg.
Let me thank Eugene for joining us on today's show.
Tomorrow we will be playing the rendering.
And Greg was one of the folks who participated.
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Get some rest.
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