#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Big Ugly Bill Passes, Jeffries’ Record Speech, Ala. Bodycam Fight, Jobs Report & NC Theft Case

Episode Date: July 6, 2025

7.3.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Big Ugly Bill Passes, Jeffries’ Record Speech, Ala. Bodycam Fight, Jobs Report & NC Theft Case The Big Ugly Bill has passed in the House today with a narrow... 218–214 vote. Only two Republicans voted against it.  Before the vote, Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries made history with the longest House floor speech ever recorded.  We'll show you some of what he said.  We'll talk to the attorney representing the black Alabama family of an 18-year-old gunned down by police.  The family is demanding the release of the bodycam video.   The June Jobs Report is in, and we'll discuss how the passage of the Big Beautiful Bill may impact these numbers and working families, with economist Morgan Harper. Also, a woman wrongfully accused of theft in North Carolina is fighting to reclaim her life. We'll talk with her and her attorney, Harry Daniels. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjD) and Risks (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:52 Folks, the family Jabari Smith would be celebrating his 19th birthday today, except he was gunned down by cops in Homewood, Alabama on June 23rd. Police claim that Jabari reached for a gun during a scuffle over marijuana possession, but the family says that simply is not true. A witness says that Jabari was unarmed and shot in the back. Now for two nights, protesters have filled the streets in home with Alabama calling for justice in the release of the officer's body cam footage. The
Starting point is 00:05:33 family's attorney has filed a petition requesting that a judge make the evidence public. But the authorities say releasing that video could hinder their investigation. Joining us now is civil rights attorney, Leroy Maxwell Jr., representing the people's family. So Leroy, we've done these stories a thousand times before. And when the video exonerates the police, they are real quick to drop the video, but they're saying that it's gonna hinder the investigation.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I'm confused how. It either shows us what happened or it doesn't. I agree with you, Roland, and I appreciate you having us on. You're right. Typically, whenever these things happen, and you know as well as I do, they release the videos right away
Starting point is 00:06:17 with a sense of urgency to clear their officers. But in this situation, the family's demanding it, the community's demanding it, the community is demanding it. Everyone's demanding the video because we kind of have an idea what's gonna happen. And I think what they're doing right now is preparing for the backlash. Okay, so I laid out a story here.
Starting point is 00:06:39 So what happened? Where did they stop him? Why did they stop him? Just explain to us what actually took place. Right, so what we know right now is that this young man, Jabari Peoples, 18 year old, recent graduate from high school, was in a suburban white neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:06:58 It's a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama, which is typically a black city, but we have suburbs around there. And so he was in a suburban area, Homewood, probably 80% white population. He was there visiting with his girlfriend who recently graduated from high school about to start University of Alabama.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And they were hanging out at a local spot where most of the teenagers hang out, the Homewood soccer park. They were approached by officers. Officer claimed that he smelled marijuana, had a discussion about marijuana with the girlfriend. Officer claimed that he smelled marijuana, had a discussion about marijuana with the girlfriend. Nothing about Jabari and marijuana. But he pulled them out of the car, put them up against the car, and that's when things started getting real funny and murky.
Starting point is 00:07:36 At some point, we know there was a tussle. The girlfriend takes off running, and one shot was fired. All right? And so we don't know what happened, but we know a couple things. According to the girlfriend, she had never seen Jabari with a gun, he was never armed. And afterwards, when she said, when the officer set her beside his bleeding body, did not see a gun at all.
Starting point is 00:07:59 The next thing we know from looking at the body, having our investigators taking hundreds of photos, our own investigation, we know that there was one shot and that was Jabari being shot in the back in the left lower quadrant. That was the only shot, no exit wound whatsoever. And then the third thing is that we know that there are surveillance cameras and body cam footage on the actual officer. Those are the items that are gone missing. So what we have right now is witnesses saying
Starting point is 00:08:26 he was unarmed, he was shot in the back, he's dead, he should be alive today. And then the third missing part of it is the actual video of what happened. And that's what the law enforcement's refusing to release at this point. And it doesn't make sense unless they're trying to cover something up.
Starting point is 00:08:45 All right, so when you say the video has gone missing, what does that mean? Oh, well, not necessarily missing the video. We know where the video is. We know that Homewood City Police have the video. We know Alabama Law Enforcement Agency have the video. They're just refusing to allow us to view it. And so right now there's some bad laws on the books
Starting point is 00:09:07 that allow Alabama law enforcement agencies to withhold evidence if they think it's an ongoing investigation. Now we know ongoing or not, in these situations, police always release the body cam footage if it's exonerating. If it's exonerating. If it's dispositive in their favor, they let it out.
Starting point is 00:09:28 But we also know when it goes the other way around, they hold on to it. And I think that's what's going on here. We filed in court, we've made our demands, we just filed a pleading yesterday. So we expect to have our day in court and give this information immediately. court and give this information immediately. And so first of all, we've done so many of these stories beforehand. When you talk about these laws in these states, they have requirements. In fact, you've got Republicans who have been trying to pass other laws in other states that restrict the release of any footage, regardless
Starting point is 00:10:04 of the situation, and some even compel a judge to sign an order for the video to be released. Right, and Alabama is one of those states as well. We recently had some legislation passed essentially said the family, whenever there's a police involved shooting, the family has the right to access and to view the body cam footage. However, that access is denied if there's an ongoing investigation.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It does not allow access to the media. It does not allow for a FOIA, Freedom of Information Act, to see the video. It basically puts a ton of restrictions on it, but has a small little caveat that says a family can view a video, but then has a role of 15, 20 reasons why they cannot. And it's easy for them to enforce that any time they want. And on top of that, Alabama is one of the states that just passed one of those additional immunity bills that not only give officers qualified immunity, state-agent immunity,
Starting point is 00:11:03 now there's an extra level of protection of immunity that they have in these sort of incidents. So in Alabama, we have one of those double whammy states where on the surface they give you the idea that, hey, family could look at it. But in reality, all the deal does is codify exactly what it is that you cannot do and what it is officers can use to prevent the family
Starting point is 00:11:24 from actually watching the footage. You said he was a recent recent high school graduate and he's in this he was visiting his girlfriend. Had there been any previous issues with police in Homewood? Yeah, so Homewood has a long string of incidents. This area, like I said, these suburban areas around there, I think what black folks gotta understand is that even when we are in these situations, when we feel comfortable,
Starting point is 00:12:02 we're actually still behind enemy lines. And the reality is they don't want us there. All right? Whether it's me, whether it's you, whether it's our sons, 18-year-old to 65-year-old, they don't want us there. If this was a young white boy hanging out with his friends in his baseball uniform, they wouldn't have bothered him. But because of who he is and what he looked like, they initiated an engagement with him that was completely unnecessary. And even if there was, even if his girlfriend did have marijuana on her, that doesn't lead to a death sentence.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Jabari was someone's son, someone's brother, brand, bright future, wanted a future in law enforcement himself. He worked security with one of the major hospitals in the state of Alabama. So he had nothing but respect for the law, but no matter how much respect he had for them, it wasn't returned on to him.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And we always pray that our sons make it back home, and he was one that didn't make it back home, and it was senseless. Obviously, because of what you just described, you said this home was a largely white suburb. I have to ask the question, girlfriend, she African-American or she white? She was African-American. How serious is youth vaping? Irreversible lung damage serious, one in ten kids vape serious, which warrants a serious conversation from a
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Starting point is 00:15:57 This was a dynamic. So this wasn't a situation of a white girl and then a white cop, black boy. Was anything like that? That's why I was asking the question. No, it wasn't that situation. This is a black couple minding their own business. Out there in a park where teenagers often are,
Starting point is 00:16:20 if you go to the park right now, it's littered with teenagers hanging out, that's teenagers do. Schools out, if it's littered with teenagers hanging out, that's teenagers do. Schools out are on, if it's a Friday night or schools out, they hang out in parking lot. Not doing anything wrong. If officers wanted to arrest every single kid or bother every single kid that hung out in a parking lot, enjoying their time, enjoying their summer, the prisons would be full of folks.
Starting point is 00:16:44 But they don't do that because it doesn't make sense. This was a black couple enjoying themselves. But even when we try to enjoy ourselves or be to ourselves, they won't let us be. Whole lot done back here. Black Last Matter grassroots, they've been protesting. They reached out to me to talk about their involvement as well, so you really have a lot of intensity going here
Starting point is 00:17:10 from people demanding justice. Oh yeah, we have a lot of movement here. We're blessed to have the support of Black Lives Matter, other organizations who have stepped up and stepped in for the family. And really we're doing everything we can. And I appreciate all the protestors, all the activists who are involved with this
Starting point is 00:17:31 because all too often it's just the families and the lawyers trying to fight this thing out. But we're in a really good situation right now with a lot of support and we're moving boots on the ground trying to make something happen. All right, then we surely appreciate you joining us keep us updated what happens next in this case. I thank you thank you so much for having us I appreciate you. All right folks got to go to break we come back introduce my panel we'll talk about other news of
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Starting point is 00:21:08 Hit it. It's real. All right, folks, it's Donald Trump cooking the books. The June jobs report is out. And it's weird. The U.S. economy, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, added 147,000 jobs last month, beating expectations. Unemployment rate dipped to 4.1% the lower since February.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Most of the gains came from, guess what? Government hiring, state and local, especially in education. The private sector added just 74,000 jobs. Its weakest showing in months. The federal government actually lost 7,000 jobs continuing a year of deep cuts. Now we're going to go beneath the numbers. Joining us right now to break it all down. Morgan Harper, director of policy and advocacy at the American Economic Liberties Project. Okay, so Morgan, now I'm confused because we had the, what is it?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Is it ADP? Their numbers a day before saying loss of 33,000 jobs. Now this, and I've seen people posting on social media, even a sort of item where Bloomberg called out these numbers as being fudged. Can you explain us what the hell's going on? Well, I don't know if I even have full information on that. I mean, I have not seen that Bloomberg story.
Starting point is 00:22:38 We don't, of course, know fully what's happening within the Trump administration, but I do think that it's possible that there's some discrepancies, and this does happen in other months too, some discrepancy between what the ADP figures are predicting and that we ultimately end up seeing from the government data.
Starting point is 00:22:55 So, you know, hard to say for sure, but I think even if we are taking these numbers at face value, and like you said, Roland, they are showing some increase in job creation numbers. If we look below the hood, there's plenty to be concerned about and could be signs of future trouble. So explain. Okay. So for example, a few things to note, because like I said, there's a lot. One, people who are unemployed are staying unemployed longer. That's disconcerting, because now it's
Starting point is 00:23:31 like you're trying to find a job, but you're not able to get one, problematic. Two, the manufacturing jobs continue to go down. So you noted that a lot of the job growth is in public sector, local, state government, education, even health care. That's not usually private sector either. There's a lot of nonprofit hospitals, for example, things like that.
Starting point is 00:23:53 We're not seeing the gains in the private sector. That's the whole theory of the case for them, is they're bringing back manufacturing and rebuilding America and all of this. Well, this is the second month in a row where we've seen multi thousands of manufacturing job losses. And we noted, it's not across a lot of different industries.
Starting point is 00:24:13 The average number of hours that people are working is also going down. And of course it's possible people are voluntarily trying to work less or summertime, maybe things with kids and who knows, but it could be a sign and I think a lot of people are wondering if it is a sign that people again are not able to work as much as they want. So they are still employed, but they're just not able to get as many hours in, schedule
Starting point is 00:24:38 as many shifts as they would like. And importantly, black unemployment is rising. So even though overall unemployment is still staying pretty steady, and these numbers from this past month, black unemployment going up. And those fluctuate a lot, we've talked about that, so we'll just have to see how it all gets adjusted,
Starting point is 00:24:57 but that is the other take on some of these job numbers beyond the headline. The other thing I would note is there's a whole category of knockoff effects that are happening throughout because of other policy decisions or other indicators that might not be directly connected to this jobs data that comes out every month, but are also signs of trouble.
Starting point is 00:25:17 That would include things like layoffs. Microsoft, for example, just announced that they're going to have another, I think this is their third round of layoffs over the last few months. This latest round, 9,000 people that are going to be laid off, Microsoft, a lot of the tech companies have done layoffs, and we're starting to see more of this, not just in tech, but also in other industries as well. We don't need to explain that. Layoffs are not good and mean less money in
Starting point is 00:25:45 people's pockets. And based on some of those other factors we were just discussing, it might be harder for people to bounce back if there isn't as much private sector hiring going on. And actually, I think the job cuts we're seeing, this is, it's among the highest levels of layoffs, job cuts we've seen since the pandemic. But as we know, the pandemic was a very unique time. So to be getting anywhere close to starting to match what was going on during the pandemic could be just the beginning of the brewing of an economic crisis.
Starting point is 00:26:17 And of course we see tariffs. You have the chair of the Federal Reserve, Chairman Powell, who has said that they would have cut rates by now if Donald Trump's tears were not going to go into effect. And again, you've got Republicans who are sitting here just crowing and how great and wonderful these things are. We saw what happened today with this bill that was passed that's going to be signed into law tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And we've already had one hospital in Nebraska now they're going to shut down because of what's happening with Medicaid. And so while they are cheering and proclaiming things are wonderful, we are about to have a serious economic problem. Yeah, I think that's a great point. I mean, the tariffs we talked about that still just continues to be a huge source of uncertainty. And look, I mean, that connects to why we're not seeing more job growth in private sector. A lot of private sector companies are just saying, we can't move in this environment. We don't know where things are headed.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Even if they don't keep all of the tariffs, the increase in certain level of tariffs is going to impact their ability to maybe replace some of their supply, given that we're not seeing the administration pair these tariffs with domestic investment and diversify the types of suppliers that are available. And you're absolutely right, Roland. I mean, the big bill, I'm not going to use the term beautiful because, I mean, it's actually offensive to even apply that word to what's going on here. These are really aggressive cuts that are going to hit at the heart of
Starting point is 00:27:45 not just people's economic lives, but actually their whole existence as human beings with some of the cuts that are happening to health care. And that's going to have a big impact too. Premiums likely to go up. We could see further consolidation in the insurance industry. That is never a good thing for bottom line access to health care and also controlling costs. And then the, you know, the immigrant, what are they choosing to fund?
Starting point is 00:28:11 Choosing to fund ICE to the tune of $46 billion. Well, again, you can take the humanity point at it. And a lot of target, they said that they're going after people who are criminals, but I think we all have seen now that it's gone way beyond that, including picking up some people who are American citizens and their raids and all of that, real chilling effect on workers. And then, you know, getting to the economic impact,
Starting point is 00:28:34 workers wanting to even show up. A lot of towns at this point, you know, here in Ohio where I am across the country, the immigrant population is the engine of the economy. And so if we have people, even if they're still here, they're scared to even leave their homes because of some of this ICE funding, well, we're not gonna see the amount of labor
Starting point is 00:28:53 that's needed to keep up some of our food supply and all of these things, and that could have detrimental effects as well and increase a lot of the costs that we face as consumers down the line. Will all of this happen right away? The impacts? No. But again, it does continue to feel like we just have this ticking time bomb that it's not a matter, it's not, if we will have some kind of economic downturn, it's when.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I want to bring in my panel while we're having this economic discussion. Let me bring them in right now. Dr. Noah Haynes, Georgetown University School of Foreign Service, joining us from D.C., Dr. Greg Hard, Department of Afro-American Studies, Howard University out of D.C., Eugene Craig, CEO, X Factor Media, Inc. out of Baltimore. The thing here, and I want to start with you, Eugene. We saw what happened today. The passing of this bill, only two Republicans voted no. Ten Republicans voted no.
Starting point is 00:29:55 They held the vote open for a very long time in order to procure those two votes. They wanted this bill to be voted upon in the dead of the night, but a Democrat leader, Hakeem Jeffries, said, nah, that ain't gonna happen. Y'all gonna have to sit here and listen to all of this. I'm gonna play some of that later in the show. And again, they're jumping up and down,
Starting point is 00:30:20 saying how this is just going to create this new golden era of economics in the United States, but they are actually putting this economy in peril with their actions. Yeah, so I'll say that's right. I don't know if you're going to be, I had a disconnection for a second. Yes, that, yeah, you. But the thing is this, Roland, they're putting the economy in peril. The Fed chair has already said
Starting point is 00:30:52 that we would have lower interest rates if not for tariffs, right? And the one thing that's definitely gonna come out of this is an increase in tariffs, there's an increase in interest rates, because hey, we're gonna run deficits, we're gonna run debt up, and now that's gonna be monetized. Part of the issue that Republicans take advantage of every
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Starting point is 00:33:58 comes to things like, hey, your interest rate that you're going to pay for your mortgage or interest rate that you pay for your credit card or interest rate that you're going to pay for your mortgage or your credit card or the interest rate that you're going to pay on your car payment or the lack of interest rate that you're going to get on your savings, right? And how inflation itself is an invisible interest rate that you may not see on paper to fill every single day. So the austerity that was just passed today has been ahead of the president's best. It's going to do nothing but hurt the American people. Shout out to Congressman Massey and Congressman Chris Patrick. It must be noted, you know, Brian comes from the pure purple district and voted, you know, his conscience to protect his constituents, talking about Brian and Patrick. Also of note, that's where we held our second and final Republicans for Harris rally in his district. So he comes from a vice president of Harris one.
Starting point is 00:34:48 But the rest of the Republican caucus, shame on them. The members of North Carolina and Georgia and Alabama, there isn't a Republican member whose constituents is not going to be directly affected by this. But in their eyes, because hey, a lot of these cuss won't take place in 2026, they think it's all fun and dandy and then they can blame the Democrats when they come into effect. But at the end of the day, you know, they voted to harm the people that put them in office. The thing here as we look at what has happened and as I said this hospital in Nebraska, rural
Starting point is 00:35:28 area in the district of Nebraska, Congressman Don Bacon who announced that he was not going to be seeking re-election. So he didn't owe Donald Trump anything so what did he do? He voted for the bill. Already this hospital leader saying sorry Medicaid cuts there's no way we survive. Those people now are not gonna be able to have healthcare there. This is the reality what we're dealing with, that is going to be detrimental to the economy.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Absolutely, and we've seen this pattern before. I remember being home in New Orleans for the Mardi Gras when COVID was happening, but the first Trump administration decided to tell Louisiana, to tell New Orleans that it was safe for Mardi Gras to go ahead. And a month and a half later, 14 members of my family died. So we have a pattern where Trump thinks that if you pretend that the thing isn't happening or if you shove it in a box long enough you can somehow be delusional enough and
Starting point is 00:36:33 convince other people to be delusional as if the thing isn't happening. With the jobs report I'm gonna listen something is very fishy here as an academic I can tell you across the board, there are hiring freezes. I cannot tell you how many emails Georgetown have sent talking about we don't know what's gonna happen. I have friends across the country from UCLA, USC, Harvard, you name it, there are hiring freezes
Starting point is 00:37:02 and there's a lot of uncertainty and people are losing their jobs or hours are being cut back. And I can tell you, as someone who just recently separated from the Department of State, where over 3,000 people are on a chopping block for losing their jobs, across the federal government, people have lost their jobs. So something isn't adding up here. Now, one thing that I did hear about the jobs report is, part of that number are them bringing
Starting point is 00:37:27 people back on that doge fired. I don't know if that's true or not, but there's so many stories going on about the jobs report. But I'm telling you from my own experience, and this isn't, you know, and I have the data sitting in my e-mails, something isn't adding up. People have lost their jobs, will continue to lose their jobs, but somehow we're adding jobs to education and to the federal government. Something is fishy. To that particular point, Morgan, I mean, look, we know, I put nothing past this administration. Now, normally what happens when job numbers are revised up or down, that's based upon when new data comes in. And we've seen that
Starting point is 00:38:16 happen before. And so earlier when you said we've seen it before where there's a discrepancy between ADP and the Bureau of Labor Statistics numbers. How does that happen? Why does that happen? Just give us that understanding. Yeah. I mean, I might need to get even more information on it, but I agree with the main point that we don't know what we don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And when we look at what Congress could explain, I do think that this is something worth inquiry. I mean, in addition to trying to speak out about the bill, it's like, this is a time to be demanding specific investigations. That is another tool that Congress has to be able to have them show their work. Right? But, I mean, based on, and again, I want to see some of the sources that you're referencing, Roland, but based on what we know on the data that's available, I don't know that there's evidence of cooking the books, but I completely agree with all the trends that we're seeing. There have been a lot of job losses.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And if there's something going on with what data is actually being released to the public and it's not in its accuracy, then we need to be ringing the alarm on that really quickly. But at the end of the day, here's another thing that we should probably all be focused on doing is showing the impacts already that are being felt. And I think we're seeing this. Food banks are already having a hard time keeping up with demand, and they know that they're not going to be able to continue to get the same level of resources that they've received before. Roland, you were referencing the rural hospital that's announced that they're going to close.
Starting point is 00:39:43 There are a lot of institutions across the country that rely almost exclusively, if not majority, on Medicaid patients and knowing that those resources aren't going to be available. So, uplifting those stories, telling what the impacts are and how it doesn't necessarily jive with the official picture that's being presented by the government data, again, whether true or completely accurate or not, I think is going to be very, very important as quickly as we can. You know, Greg, what was really interesting here, really interesting here, when you talk
Starting point is 00:40:21 about this particular bill, Republicans put a lot of this stuff, a lot of this stuff, to hit in 2027, after the 2026 midterms. To Morgan's point right here, but we know the immediate thing's going. This, for everybody who's been saying, well, the Democrats, they're flailing, they have no message. The reality is they do now have one. They now have something where they can say what we are for and what the people are against based on what they've already done.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And we heard that in Leader Jeffrey's speech. I'm going to unpack it a little bit further when we actually run that. But people have to understand, you know, Trump has already said, hey, I've got more power. He controls Republicans with an iron fist. But this is a moment where Democrats are going to have to be nailing every day who this hurts, who gets impacted. And every time a hospital, a nursing home shuts down, they should pin that on Donald Trump, Speaker Mike Johnson, and every single Republican that voted for this bill.
Starting point is 00:41:43 They absolutely should, Roe. The response from the white nationalists will be, they're eating the dogs. In other words, this is not logic. Never underestimate the power of white supremacy. As Joni Ernst said, everybody dies. They would rather die than save their own lives if it means that somebody else gets some healthcare. And so, yes, the Democrats do have a message. And yes, Leader Jeffrey spoke for an impassioned almost nine hours today.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yes, he broke a record. And then they voted the way they were going to vote anyway. I don't give any credit to Fitzpatrick. Thomas Massey, who built his house with his own hands, is always going to do what he's going to do. He ain't scared of them. Fitzpatrick, after voting to advance legislation, left the House floor in the middle of the night. Why, he know he not going to win reelection.
Starting point is 00:42:34 He need to roll over these white nationalists like the seat. Morgan, you know, as an economist, I really wonder if what your thoughts are at the macroeconomic level about the United States. Thomas Flat Earth Friedman wrote in today's New York Times, as this bill passed, he said, can you hear it, that loud roar coming from the East? It's the sound of 1.4 billion Chinese laughing at us because in that bill, they're trying to revert to coal and all that at the same time that the world
Starting point is 00:43:05 is moving forward with electric, with solar, with wind. And so what do you think about the jobs of the future, the U.S. economy of the future, as countries all over the world, Brazil and Mexico met this week, the EU trying to work it out with England? What? Are looking for workarounds. Canada talking about it might be an energy superpower in the near future. As the world begins to work around
Starting point is 00:43:27 the United States of America, what do you think is on the horizon as Musk's electric vehicles, crater and sails? If you go to Dubai, if you go to Malaysia, what's on the streets, BYD, the Chinese car? I mean, what does the future of the American economy and the American worker look like with the passage of this bill?
Starting point is 00:43:49 I can't say that anyone thinks the future is looking strong based on what's coming out of this bill. And there's a lot of uncertainty. I mean, even like I referenced earlier that we're seeing tech companies announce all these layoffs. A lot of them they're saying are the result of AI, and it's just the natural evolution of how things have to go based on how technology is developing. No, that's been a fundamental problem in our country for a while, at least a few decades,
Starting point is 00:44:19 that we're just taking a lot of these companies at their word or letting them set the terms. We are in a situation of having kind of like private governments with these very large companies that now have been able to buy off the government and then it's kind of game over. So that's a dynamic at play. I think also, you know, just this level of like whiplash in policy making, I mean, you can't plan a society
Starting point is 00:44:43 for the future if you're disinvesting in education, if you don't have people that are healthy. And so there's really no way to look at what's coming out of this bill and think, oh, great, this is really setting us up very well to be competitive globally. And I agree with you. I mean, I think a lot of other parts of the world are starting to discount how much leadership they'll see out of the United States for the foreseeable future. And, you know, there's still potentially time to change course, but maybe not a lot of time.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Because with these types of cuts, with this lack of investment, with this lack of a plan, with this level of corruption, it might not be that easy to flip the switch, even if we do see a change in power in the new administration in a few years or a change in the dynamics in Congress. Here's a perfect example. I'm sitting here, Politico has this story right here. It says conservatives say Trump won their mega bill votes by promising crackdown on renewable energy credits.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Texas Congressman Chip Roy said, quote, we believe we're going to get 90 plus percent of all future projects terminated. You know, Morgan, to the point that Greg what we're just stating is simple. Where in the hell do you think the building is coming from? Where in the hell do you think the building is coming from? Where in the hell do you think the new jobs are that's why the trade union, that's why the electrical workers were posing this saying,
Starting point is 00:46:13 do you got, are you guys stupid? You've got a company that we're announcing four and $500 million expansion projects. We've seen here complaining about the Chinese dominating America created. The solar energy, solar panels are an American invention and they're just like, yo China, y'all going right ahead. I saw a story earlier that said, let me see, double check, I think to double check. I think it was in Norway. I think it said that 97% of all new cars in Norway were electric vehicles. And yeah, right here. In Norway, 90% of new cars sold in 2024 were fully electric, with the country aiming for all new cars sold by 2025 to be zero emission. Now, his was hilarious, Morgan. These right-wingers
Starting point is 00:47:18 go, oh, electric vehicles, man, that's hurting of the power grid. What's sucking up the power grid? These AI plants. The data center. So the data centers. So for people to sit here and for these Republicans to say, oh, we should stop, like, forget all these electric vehicle stuff. I'm like, y'all are on crack. And the crack you're on are fossil fuels. The reality, I mean, the real I mean, you know, I've got General Motors is delivering like on Monday, to me, to me, a electric vehicle, we have to understand that this is real simple. You have to recognize where the future is. This bill and Republicans, Morgan, they only think and operate in the now.
Starting point is 00:48:12 They don't give a damn about the next 10, 20, 30 years. And yeah, we're gonna be in for a serious issue if the rest of the world says, okay, America, we know you are the largest economy in the world of $29 trillion. We, America, we know you are the largest economy in the world of $29 trillion. But we don't have to actually do stuff with you. If we partner with one another, we can bypass you.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And that's going to be happening a whole lot over the next three years. Yeah. I think a couple of comments. I mean, one, the big tech data center situation, it absolutely impacts electricity. I mean, they're cutting these deals, they're gonna raise electricity prices, but trying to spread the costs of that across all of us
Starting point is 00:48:54 and individual rate payers, not just themselves. And that is a huge problem and gonna increase costs for people. And also water on the data centers extract a lot of water. And that's another part of the utility story that isn't always talked about, but increased water bills for people getting shut off, not having access to basic services. Does that sound like a modern country to any of us? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And so, again, beyond the economic perspective, it's just like the real inhumanity of what they're doing is really tough to—it's tough to fully portray just the risks that it's creating for a lot of Americans at all income levels. It's like, even if you feel like you're pretty good now, these are just going to continue to have ripple effects that I think will hit a lot of different economic classes. And yeah, I mean, it's very easy now for—I mean, it'll be an adjustment even for some of these countries to want to coordinate amongst themselves, but the incentive to do so is very easy to calculate.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You cannot rely on the United States. I mean, not having people feel comfortable coming here to do research, that's always been one of the top benefits of coming to the U.S., you know, having international people that either come and gain knowledge and have a great impression of the U.S. and go back wherever they're from or come and love the education they got here and invest in starting businesses and hiring people.
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Starting point is 00:53:02 And to create innovation, even within the government. A lot of the private sector is just not incentivized to have the resources to do that, you know, front loading of research and development to create the next break, next great healthcare breakthrough or some kind of new technology. Why do we have the internet now? It's because there was government investment along the way that allowed engineers and scientists to be able to invest in that learning and understanding that technology. The private sector is never going to do that in the same way.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And so, yeah, this is potentially setting us back for a long, long time. And it's just a clear corporate giveaway, even things that don't seem like they're big corporate giveaways, going back to the immigration issue, you know, what is a lot of this funding going to go towards? Detention centers, detention centers. Who owns detention centers? The same people that are operating prisons. This is not actually investing in any communities.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And it's just a complete giveaway to folks that already have a lot and are only going to get more. To that particular point, Nola, that people have to recognize, when you start having countries begin to align and work together economically, then that has an impact also military. That then impacts foreign policy. And so people need to understand that they may look at this bill and look at the actions of these Republicans
Starting point is 00:54:36 only through the terms of America's interests, but the world is watching what happened today. They'll be watching when this bill is signed tomorrow. They will see how Donald Trump has shown that the Republican Party is utterly feckless. They are unwilling to hold him accountable. They're allowing him to do whatever it is they want to do. So the world is watching and seeing that there literally are no Republican guardrails to stop a madman from doing whatever it is that he wants to do. And they are going to respond. And it's not going to be the way that we think
Starting point is 00:55:21 it always has been with our so-called allies. that we think it always has been with our so-called allies. Absolutely. The world is watching. In many countries around the world, they have great health care. I have been sick multiple times in different countries and left those hospitals without having to pay a bill as a non-citizen. Here we are stripping very vulnerable people of their health care. And to your point, Roland, I'm glad that you kind of drew the intersection between what
Starting point is 00:55:51 happened today with that bill and also with our insecurity. What's very clear to me is, is that this administration is not interested in being the leader of anything other than in defense, right? And we saw an example of that when they bombed the three nuclear facilities in Iran. The next day, Hegsett said, deterrence is back. So that tells me, as a professional, as a security and defense professional, oh, OK, so we are doing away with diplomacy. We said, screw you to our allies and our partners. And we think that having the biggest, baddest military, which we already do, but to have
Starting point is 00:56:35 it even bigger and even badder, then that's going to be the answer to everything, that we are going to scare people into some sort of submission versus wanting to do the things to lead in climate, to lead in energy, to lead in human rights. We have completely walked away from all of our values in favor of deterrence. So what that is going to do, that's going to increase an arms race around the world. And there's already evidence of this happening. You know, in space, where I spend most of my day in space security, we are going to see a huge buildup, an arms race in space, and that's also going to happen here on Earth. So all of these things, they snowball, right? So, okay, so we
Starting point is 00:57:24 can't trust the United States. We can't partner with them. They're no longer our allies. Therefore, now, we have to think about defense and offense in a way that, you know, insert country hadn't thought about before. Look at what this administration did with Ukraine. They completely sidestepped Congress and refused to send Ukraine the weapons that was already allocated to send to Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:57:46 We are beyond the pale here. No one can trust us. Who's going to want to do business with us? And the last thing I will say is, the one thing that this administration has done, as it's done many things in its six months, it has now positioned China to be the number one superpower in the world. Yes, I said it. Absolutely. And I'm going to tell you why. Absolutely. Because that's right. They understand the gap, the diplomacy gap that we've left.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And they are absolutely stepping into that gap. Now, they may have, you know, their own in, you know, their end goals in mind. Every country does. But Donald Trump has seeded all around to China. I said what I said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're rolling out.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Well, Eugene, they're far, these are, first of all, I'm right here. I didn't say that. You done? Eugene, Eugene, there are far reaching implications. And I just want people to understand that the economic piece we're talking about goes directly in line with military, with national security, all of those different things. And the world is recognizing, the world sees how shameful and
Starting point is 00:59:01 dangerous, how much of a liar this man is. They forced Zelensky to sign a mineral rights deal, and now they're denying them weapons. And the whole point of the deal was to continue to supply weapons. The world will not be trusting the United States. The world will not believe things that we say economically. And folks have better understand The world would not believe things that we say economically.
Starting point is 00:59:25 And folks had better understand and be prepared for that to happen. And look, Europe's responding very strongly. They decided that, hey, instead of relying on the American military industrial complex that supplies with bombs and planes and ships and everything else. The EU said, look, you know, we're going to build ourselves a bigger army, a better
Starting point is 00:59:50 army, and we're also going to produce our own weapons. You know, that's going to have a direct economic impact on American jobs here. You know, one of the things that's often explained nowadays is, you know, a lot of the aid that goes to Ukraine or goes to, or goes to any conflict that we decide to support almost out of the other is that it's not necessarily money being dropped into those countries. It's, hey, the United States, the Pentagon is essentially buying resources from American companies that are then supplying them to these regions in the world, whether it's
Starting point is 01:00:23 Ukraine or conflict in Africa or wherever. So when Europe and other affiliate countries are deciding that they're gonna produce their own rather than purchase from us, that's gonna have a direct effect on American jobs, on American military producers, both that make bombs, both that make bullets, and everything else in between.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And it's a direct reflection of Donald Trump being in office. It's a direct reflection of the lack of leadership coming out of the current American presidency. And it's a direct reflection of the rest of the world having to stand up and standing again in real time. Yeah, I actually thought when Rep. Sparks voted against the rule last Yeah, I actually thought, you know, when Sparks, when Representative Sparks voted against the rule last night, I actually thought her vote was gonna hold
Starting point is 01:01:09 because, hey, you know, her sole issue is Ukraine. And they're cutting, and they're cutting the, they're cutting from the Ukraine, while at the same time, you know, playing games with the weapons, after forces of the Lindsey to sign the Minerals bill. I thought that she was gonna hold, you know, I was wrong. I guess at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:01:24 Donald Trump gets what he wants. Morgan, this thing is real. And again, folks just need to understand what we're going to be facing. And so we will be, it's a lot we're going to be unpacking once this bill gets signed. And then we start seeing the absolutely, and I'll say this, and I'm not being hyperbolic, this bill is going to drop an economic nuclear bomb on America, especially rural America, and be prepared for the orange and white tears to be flowing, because they're going to be looking like a bunch of those Latinos who are Latinos for Trump and saying, I didn't think he was talking about me. Morgan Harper, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Thanks for having me, Roland. Folks, folks, going to break, we come back. We're going to talk about a case out of North Carolina. Plus we'll play some of a leaderakeem Jeffries' speech and break it down. I really believe that that speech, that eight-hour and 44-minute, 25-second speech, literally is the blueprint for the Democrats to regain the House next year. I will explain. Folks, support the work that we do. Join the Breed and Funk Fan Club. Your contributions make it possible to do the work
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Starting point is 01:04:11 in order for other people to have jobs. Like, that is not how our economy should be built. Only on the other side of change on the Black Star Network. Hi everybody, I'm Kim Coles. Hey, I'm Donnie Simpson. Yo, it's Samantha Young-Cole from Blackist and you're watching... Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, folks, welcome back to Roland Martin Unfiltered here on the Black Star Network. You know what, there are so many different cases that we cover on this show that sometimes
Starting point is 01:04:49 just leave you perplexed and you're like, what the hell is going on? Well, this story out of North Carolina is one of those. Attorney Harry Daniels is representing the system in this and it's sort of strange if you will what transpired here and so let me walk you through this story okay Tamera Parker was wrongfully arrested Now, she loses everything being falsely accused of a crime. No criminal record. She spends months trying to clear her name, loses her job, loses her home. After police claim, she matched the description of a suspect and the description was a black woman. Now,
Starting point is 01:05:48 charges have been dropped against her. Her mugshot though, online, people can pull it up, it's everywhere. And so imagine now you're trying to have to rebuild your life. Tadman, her attorney, Harry Daniels joins us right now. Glad to have both of you on the show. So what the hell, first of all, what did they accuse you of doing? And what was the description and was that person actually ever apprehended and they in any way resemble you?
Starting point is 01:06:23 I have no idea. So what they said happened was someone, took someone's credit card information, bought two Apple iPhones, and sent them to an advanced auto parts store. I had no idea what was going on. I don't think that they ever got a suspect. I'm not too sure, but not to my knowledge. I think I was- how do they, how do they get around to you? Like what, like what, what, I mean, what, like what happened? So I went into the store, the advanced auto parts store. I went in on May the 16th of last year.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I was looking for a part. I actually had the part in my hand and they didn't have it. I got assistance from the store associate. And then a little over a week later, the police came to my house and had a search warrant to search my home. I had no idea why they were there, but that was the only time I ever went into that store.
Starting point is 01:07:21 So the first time you ever go to this auto parts store, you looking for a part, then all of a sudden a week later, they're showing up at your house. And when they show up at your house, what do they say? I let them in because there was something that happened in my daughter's school earlier that week. So I just thought a teacher was arrested. So I started thinking about that.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Like I thought they were coming in my house to tell me something happened to my child. So I let them inside to like see what they had to say. And the guy just started like yelling, like I just want to know if this is a one-time thing or if you're a part of a ring. And I had no idea what he was talking about. So then he just kind of start going off.
Starting point is 01:08:02 So then he told me like what happened. Well, he said first, did you go into an advanced auto parts store? And I said, yes, I went there last Thursday to look for a part and I had to like part with me. So that's when he told me, that's when he told me what I was accused of. And at first I thought it was a joke
Starting point is 01:08:20 because who would do something like that? That was like the craziest thing I've ever heard of. So then like I opened up my wallet, I'm like, hey, you can look and see, like I don't have anyone's information, like I own my home, I have like a good credit score, equity, stuff in my home, I have reasons to do something like this,
Starting point is 01:08:38 this is like the most ridiculous thing. But yeah, he was very aggressive. thing. But yeah, he was very aggressive. That is, so Harry, what's crazy to me is if you're the store, you have surveillance video, if she didn't, like the video should show if a card was taken, used or whatever the heck, like what the hell is this? Thanks, Roland, for having us on. Roland, first off, you know, we do a lot of cases, a lot of cases usually dealing with serious injury,
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Starting point is 01:11:44 From overnight stars to the fall that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic. Listen to Vine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. A case that we could not pass up based on the extraordinary and disbelief of what happened to this, this, this Tamara. No surveillance cameras, no outside cameras or surveillance cameras in the store at Advanced Auto Park in Dallas, North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:12:14 She simply went into the store May 16th to pick up a part for her husband. She went to Advanced Auto Park, the next door. They didn't have the party either. What transpired was that, like she said, somebody sent these files to the store. And subsequently, one of the sales associates at the store said that the person had came back in the store after police went to the store to pick up the phones,
Starting point is 01:12:39 and came back into the store, and they took a picture of the person's license plate. Well, that day was May 20th. On May 20th, Tamara was nowhere around the store. In fact, she was at a kid's pre-K graduation, other kid's graduation, elementary school graduation, out with family, nowhere near the store. And law enforcement knew it, because when they they took the phones and she freely gave the pass code to the phones once they had the search warrant, and they did forensics on the phones, a rolling.
Starting point is 01:13:12 And at the forensics, they found that she was not at the store on the date that that sales associate alleged that she was there. They knew that she did not commit this crime. Nevertheless, they pursued it. They got a warrant for her arrest. She was arrested. She lost everything, a job, great job, a good reputation, mugshot, a home is now for a closure, for sale. She's multiple months, several months behind, and she's currently under the care of a doctor. You know, this is—and she's unemployable at the time, because she was an insurance
Starting point is 01:13:48 agent, and nobody wants to hire anybody who's been accused of stealing identity fraud or identity theft, especially when you have public trust and you deal with a public identity on a day-to-day basis, day-to-day basis. But these are one of those cases that law enforcement—Ova Zell is law enforcement, a clerk that—we will get to the bottom of what happened here, because she clearly gave false information to the police that Ms. Parker was in the store and she was not. We're going to find out where that come from. And not just that, law enforcement completely ignoring innocence, exculpatory evidence, and pushing for some
Starting point is 01:14:26 agenda that left this family upside down, literally, with finances and in a place that anybody could have been in, especially the Parkers family, where she was a law-abiding citizen, hard-working taxpayer, no criminal record, making money, own her own home, equity, savings, accounts, good credit, and all of a sudden, all of that was taken from her as a blink of an eye. So we got a lot of work to do. We're going to pursue this case, and we're going to make sure we get some justice
Starting point is 01:14:57 from this park. Kameron, how long did you spend in jail? It was only a few hours. On paper it said like 15 minutes. When I went in, of course I was talking like, hey, you guys have the wrong person. And they were just like, well, this detective, he doesn't make mistakes. He's the best. And he wouldn't be doing this unless he has solid evidence.
Starting point is 01:15:21 And I'm like, he doesn't. So when they took me in, I just kept saying like, you guys have the wrong person, but they did like the intake. I went and talked to the magistrate and the magistrate said I can leave, like gave me the paperwork, you know, said he'd unsecured bond.
Starting point is 01:15:36 He even made a joke like, Ms. Parker, do you have a ticket or any speeding tickets? And I'm like, when I was like 19 or 20, and so he basically told me I was leaving. I didn't leave. They put me in a hold and seal after the magistrate unsecured my bond and told me I could leave. Yeah, Roland, just to add, this is—and the evidence and what I just told you and the facts of this case, it's not speculative.
Starting point is 01:16:00 This is what is in the discovery, the criminal discovery. I'm not making it up. This is what the DA had and what the DA reviewed this discovery. And a lot of times, the DA don't review discoveries until they get an indicted case. He immediately dismissed this case with insufficient evidence. Dismissed it. We have the dismissal. We have the evidence to show. And we look forward to pursuing this case.
Starting point is 01:16:21 And this just goes to show that that even when you're doing right, when you're doing good, you're doing everything good, you're not breaking the law, you've been a law-abiding citizen. And sometimes, being black in America is the only crime you committed. And this woman and her family has done nothing wrong, and they are in a position where they need help, obviously, and we're here to help them and get some redress for them.
Starting point is 01:16:52 All right, then. Well, surely we hope you are able to do that because, again, this is the last thing a lot of people would ever want to have to deal with. Thanks a lot. Take care, Rola. Thank you. Folks, we come back. We'll show you some of the speech, the record setting speech of House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries that took place this morning. We hours of the morning leading into almost midday. We'll show you that, but also unpack how I truly believe that he laid out the blueprint for Democrats taking back the house in 2026. We'll show you that and explain next right here on Roller Martin Unfiltered and the Black Sun Network. Next on the Black Table with me, Greg Carl, the enigma of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. What really makes him tick and what forces shaped his view of
Starting point is 01:17:44 the world, the country, and Black America? The answer, I'm pretty sure, will shock you. And he says, you know, people think that I'm anachronistic. I am. I want to go backwards in time in order to move us forward into the future. He's very upfront about this. We'll talk to Cory Robin, the man who wrote the book that reveals it all. That's next on the Black Table, only on the Black Star Network.
Starting point is 01:18:11 The next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's Wealth Coach. Less than 5% of the top executive positions in corporate America are held by women of color. We know it's not because of talent. A recent study says that it's microaggressions, unconscious bias, and limited opportunities being offered to women of color.
Starting point is 01:18:37 On our next show, we're gonna get incredible advice from Francine Parham, who's recently written a book sharing exactly what you need to do to make it up into the management ranks and get the earnings that you deserve. I made a point to sit down and I made a point to talk to people. And I made a point to be very purposeful
Starting point is 01:19:02 and thought provoking when I spoke to them. That's right here on Get Wealthy, only on Black Star Network. Hello, I'm Marissa Mitchell, a news anchor at Fox 5BC. Hey, what's up? It's Jami Roman and you are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. folks before we play the some of the speech speaker excuse me Democrat leader Hocking Jeffries this is the GoFundMe page for Tamara Parker if you are interested in donating she
Starting point is 01:19:38 tried to put her life back together and so this is it right here so, less than $1,400 has been raised. And so again, you see it right here. And so go to GoFundMe, type in her name or type in wrongfully accused, trying to rebuild my life. And there you go. All right, folks, a record setting speech from Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries speaking against Donald Trump's so-called big, beautiful bill, which is really a big, ugly, dangerous bill. Jeffries broke the record set in 2021 by then-minority leader, Kevin McCarthy, which was eight hours
Starting point is 01:20:14 and 32 minutes. He spoke today for eight hours, 44 minutes and 25 seconds. Here is some of what he had to say. But the aspirational part of the Declaration of Independence, of course, that is often famously quoted. But then if you read other parts of the Declaration of Independence, extraordinarily written document, it lists, it reads like an indictment against the kings, I think of King George, it reads like an indictment
Starting point is 01:21:13 against King George's flood the zone strategy. It reads like an indictment against King George's shock and awe strategy. It reads like an indictment against what I think may have been to Project 1776. And you look at this indictment, and one of the things it effort to stop the assimilation of people from other parts of the world into the United States of America. So we understand that from the very beginning of this great country, there was a recognition, of course, of the importance of immigration to the success and vitality of the United States of America.
Starting point is 01:22:42 And let me be clear, Mr. Speaker, so there's no misrepresentation. As House Democrats, we understand the importance, the urgency of securing the border. We believe that our immigration system is, and that it should be fixed in a comprehensive and bipartisan way. So many leaders in that effort, so many big ideas were willing to partner in a bipartisan way. Pramila Jayapal, Linda Sanchez, Adriano Espayat,
Starting point is 01:23:23 Tom Swazzi, so many others. Veronica Escobar, we want to partner to fix our broken immigration system in a bipartisan and comprehensive way, secure our border. But we're also gonna make sure we stand up for our nation's heritage, a nation of immigrants, which continues
Starting point is 01:23:58 to this very day. It's an important part of American exceptionalism, and as far as I can tell in my reading of the original document, the writings of the founders of this great country, the framers of the Constitution, they recognized it from the very beginning. They weren't perfect. We didn't have a perfect start.
Starting point is 01:24:24 But of course, as the preamble to the United States Constitution set forth, we the people in order to form a more perfect union. Mr. Speaker, we've been set on this magical course. Our march toward a more perfect union. And the immigration journey has always been an important part of the American journey. That's why it's heartbreaking to see some of the things
Starting point is 01:24:56 that are happening in the country right now. The targeting in such an extraordinary way of law-abiding immigrant families, including American citizens, how can this be in the United States of America? Some people who might suggest that we should stay away from these stories, no, I'm gonna lean into this part of the American journey. Because we support our heritage as a nation of immigrants.
Starting point is 01:25:45 We're gonna stand up for dreamers, stand up for farm workers, stand up for law-abiding immigrant families all across this country. You as citizen children have been deported, Mr. Speaker. Is this who we become in the United States of America? How can this be? This is extraordinary. a two-year-old American named Manu Borges Santos, was born in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, in September of 2022. February, she was taken into custody in Florida alongside her mother and father,
Starting point is 01:26:54 both of whom were undocumented. And as a result of this situation, we're fed up with Project 1775. And so they implemented Project 1776. So I know that there are people concerned with what's happening in America, but understand what our journey teaches us is that after as part of Project 2026. I love the framers. They gave us a blueprint.
Starting point is 01:27:58 For what should give us hope? In this moment. That's right. I think that... How serious is youth vaping? Irreversible lung damage serious? One in ten kids vape serious? Which warrants a serious conversation from a serious parental figure like yourself.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Not the seriously know-it-all sports dad. Or the seriously smart podcaster. It requires a serious conversation that is best had by you. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this Taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them.
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Starting point is 01:30:13 Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today, AXS.com. Do you remember Vine? It changed the internet forever, and it vanished in its prime. I'm Benedict Townsend and this is Vine, 6 seconds that changed the world. The untold story of genius, betrayal, and the app that died so that TikTok could thrive. From overnight stars to the fall that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Listen to Vine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. I want to close by referencing someone who we all serve with. I want to stand on the shoulders if it's okay on some of our civil rights heroes and foot soldiers. Those whose character, whose conviction, whose courage should give the American people hope at a moment of great despair. serving with Congressman John Lewis. It's a great honor, Mr. Speaker, to serve something that John Lewis said in June of 2028, that hopefully, no matter what the outcome of this vote, will give people some hope. Great John Lewis said, do not get lost in a sea of despair.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Be hopeful. Be optimistic. Our struggle is not the struggle of a day, a week, a month, or a year. It is the struggle of a lifetime. That's our struggle. No matter what, Mr. Speaker, you decide to do today. That's our struggle. Standing on the shoulders of John Lewis, that's our struggle.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Never, ever be afraid to make some noise and get into good trouble. Good trouble. Good trouble. Necessary trouble. Standing on the shoulders of giants, John Lewis would often talk to us about his admiration for Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Dr. King, who would refer to John Lewis as the boy from Troy. Now what's interesting to me, that civil rights movement, we can learn a lot from it.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Started December of 1955, and Rosa Parks sat down on that bus so that all of us could have the courage to stand up. Wasn't an easy struggle. All the odds were stacked against these civil rights heroes and foot soldiers. And during the early days of the movement, a difficult part of the movement, Dr. King, after they've been targeted, arrested, beaten, harassed by the authorities, he traveled to Brooklyn, New York, and spoke at the Concord Baptist Church, I think it was in March of 1956. And he said to a group of people of every race, every religion, every life experience, the Concord Baptist Church in Bedford-Stuyvesant said to them, no matter what the odds, we've got to press
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Starting point is 01:35:30 But at all times, press on. And keep pressing. And so as I take my seat, I just want to say to the American people that no matter what the outcome is on this singular day, we're going to press on. We're going to press on. We're going to press on for our children, press on for our seniors, press on for our veterans, press on for our unions, press on for our farmers, press on for our dreamers, press on for working class Americans, press on for the middle class. Press on for all who aspire to be part of the middle class.
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Starting point is 01:38:17 Gentlemen from Massachusetts. So let me unpack what happened. Jeffries did not tell his Democratic caucus that this is what he was going to do. And that was a very smart thing. You had some Democrats who were bitching and moaning saying, well, he could have given us some heads up and where we would have booked multiple flights and you know that that would have been nice. Well, no, because those idiots would have leaked it. Okay. So let me explain to you why this speech was so important. And I see all these people, I see all these old really smart people, folks all on social media. That was a waste of time.
Starting point is 01:39:07 He was just up there. I mean, Oh my God, he's horrible. He's not shown any leadership. All that, all of that talking, all of that whining, all of that, all that. The reason they're wrong is that if you listen to this speech, and I listened to most of it, what he did was he literally laid out the Democrats agenda to retake the House. You heard him say you have Project 2025 when next year there will be Project 2026.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Y'all, that literally is the name of what the, this is, that's the name that Democrats should adopt as their battle plan for next year. So first of all you call it project 2026 because the project is to retake the house in 2026. If you listen to the speech he talked about he spent lots of time talking about healthcare, talking about food, talking about housing. Hello, that's the agenda. And there was a Republican who somebody posted that this bill does this for food, does this for education and does something else. And this Republican has goes, yes, exclamation point so that Republican is cheering all of those things at that
Starting point is 01:41:09 that this bill has done you take David Valedale of California Republican 64% of his district relies on Medicaid. Whoever is running against him, that's all you run on. And you go after that 64%. See, I don't know what people want. I saw one woman, uh, she sat here and she was talking about, Oh my God, this has been awful. It's this is that they have a trifecta y'all. Republicans don't, they Republicans did not need any Democrat votes in the house to pass the bill.
Starting point is 01:42:01 They didn't get any. They use the reconciliation process in the Senate, which only required a simple majority and not 60 votes. Didn't need them. And obviously, Trump sitting in the White House. So for all these people who kept going, Democrats should have fought harder. Can you please tell me what the hell and I love what all these people say this. I would really love to tell me what meme, what graphic, what statement
Starting point is 01:42:34 Jeffries or any of them could have posted or stated that was going to stop this bill from happening. it that was going to stop this bill from happening. See a lot of the people who are complaining, a lot of the people who are so upset, a lot of those folk were the ones who were bitching last year and who were not focused on turning people out. One of the reasons that Vice President Kamala Harris lost is because Democrats didn't turn out. You had all these disaff President Donald Harris lost is because Democrats didn't turn out. You had all these disaffected Democrats over the issue of
Starting point is 01:43:08 gossip. You had young folks who were upset by that. You had folks who said that Biden was too old. You had folks who said, oh, we shouldn't have had Harris. Oh, we shouldn't be focusing on transgender. We should be focusing on GEI. And you had Democrats who were just, oh my God, it's awful. These are bad. Where's this? awful things are bad where's this where's that where's this yet Republicans got in line how did Republicans pass this bill how did they go from losing 217 to 207, holding the vote open and then converting the holdouts.
Starting point is 01:43:52 It's because they fell in line because they said you can't get everything that you want, but we're gonna get this bill right now. See, I keep saying Democrats have a history of snatching defeat for the jaws of victory. So right now, again, if you listen to what Jeffrey said, house Democrats should be absolutely focused and fixated. Project 2026 pull up the graphic. The D triple C. I showed this the other day on the show. They sat here and they showed the 35 districts in play. That means right now what Democrats should be doing, they should have the data and they also do, they should have the data of every single one of those districts and how many people in those districts depend on Medicaid. What they
Starting point is 01:45:09 should be having is how many people in those districts depend on SNAP benefits. What they should be doing is breaking down how every single time a hospital in one of those districts closes down, the Democrats should be holding a news conference in front of that hospital. Every time a nursing home in those districts shuts down, they should be holding, they should be holding news conference in front. Person says in the chat, I disagree, you don't adopt your opponent's slogan. You're not adopting this slogan. What you're doing is you're offering a counter to your opponents.
Starting point is 01:46:07 Y'all pull, pull the graphic up. We have a shirt that says y'all see my shirt. No, not that graphic. My shirt says, don't believe it. Don't blame me for the black woman. We have a shirt that we're sell selling. And it says, FAFO 2025 project crossed out. Cause that's exactly what is about to happen. What is about to happen right now is that rural America is about to be decimated. You know who that is?
Starting point is 01:46:42 White people, conservative white people decimated. It's about to happen. See people. Yeah, this is very simple. All the Democrats have to do is win five seats. Five. Pull that list up again. One of those folks on that graphic is Don Bacon. Don Bacon announced he's retiring. Don Bacon represents Omaha, Nebraska. He represents the district where that hospital announced today they were shutting its doors because of what happened today with Medicaid.
Starting point is 01:47:21 See, I think the problem with some really smart... When your car is making a strange noise, no matter what it is, you can't just pretend it's not happening. That's an interesting sound. It's like your mental health. If you're struggling and feeling overwhelmed, it's important to do something about it. It can be as simple as talking to someone or just taking a deep calming breath to ground yourself. Because once you start to address the problem, you can go so much further.
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Starting point is 01:49:41 It changed the internet forever, and it vanished in its prime. I'm Benedict Townsend and this is Vine. Six seconds that changed the world. The untold story of genius, betrayal and the app that died so that TikTok could thrive. From overnight stars to the fall that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic. Listen to Vine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Democrats, is that sometimes they too damn smart. Sometimes they trying to make this thing. So all my God and all my God, I hate all this and we ain't doing this and when we
Starting point is 01:50:32 ain't doing that and we should be doing this and we all know he is this and Jeffress, no, he should be doing this here. Then you asked him what specifically well, I don't really know. I can't really tell you that that's really not my job. What the hell you talking about then? Folks, I'm telling you national Democrats. And I'm saying this for a reason.
Starting point is 01:50:56 This is where national Democrats should be. Everything is 2026. Everything is 2026. Yes, you're going to defend your districts, but there are 35 vulnerable Democrats. All you need are five. You win five out of the 35, you control the house. Republicans know it. Donald Trump is going to try to get everything he could get past between now and November, 2026, because he knows what's coming. And I'm telling you, folk need to stop sitting here and complaining. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:51:50 I'm gonna tell y'all something right now. You could bring back from the dead Sam Rayburn. You could bring back Tom Foley. You can bring back Skipp O'Neal. You can bring Nancy, you can bring Nancy Pelosi back. There's nothing that Nancy Pelosi could have done to stop this bill. Because they don't have the power. The only way you stop Trump and MAGA Republicans is if you seize power.
Starting point is 01:52:27 And national Democrats had better be locked in loaded on 2026. Virginia Democrats had better be locked in loaded on maintaining the house in November, maintaining the House in November, maintaining the Senate in November, and taking the Governor's mansion and taking out that Black MAGA Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears. That means Spanberger had better stop running this middle-of-the-road milk toast campaign and she better be talking of the road milk toast campaign and she better be talking and speaking to and energizing black voters who make up 20% of the state. You can not stop someone from doing something and you cannot advance your agenda if you
Starting point is 01:53:23 do not have the power. Good one, panel. I want to go to you first, Greg. If people actually stop getting so caught up in theatrics and, oh, the person didn't move me, I wasn't excited, he really laid out what Democrats stand for and how to counter Republicans. Your thoughts. Well, brother, with all due respect to Leader Jeffries,
Starting point is 01:54:00 the words of Malcolm X, you're speaking a language they don't understand. I thought that it was as strong a speech as I've heard Hakeem Jeffries give. I think that if we lived in a nation, it would be the opening salvo of a project that could possibly work. But we don't live in a nation. We live in a country with a lot of different nations in it. You've got a president of the United States who is mentally ill, who is a racist, who called the winner of the New York Democratic primary in New York for mayor, a communist radical
Starting point is 01:54:47 threatening to deport him. And Leader Jeffrey's understanding that his position is to keep the Democratic party together defended Mamdani but stopped short of endorsing him. I wasn't moved by the speech. And it's not necessary for me to be moved by the speech, because I know that in order to advance, we don't have to be moved by rhetoric. I'm gonna support whatever and whoever is going to advance the interests of our common humanity.
Starting point is 01:55:18 But I can't help in this moment. But think about Dr. King, not in the immediate wake of the Montgomery Bus Boycott where Leader Jeffrey spoke to in 1956, but in 1968, Dr. King understood very well where we live and what we had to do. And what we have done in this country in terms of electoral politics,
Starting point is 01:55:48 what we have done is tacked toward that middle you're talking about, Roland, and the results have been a diminishing return in terms of black political power since its peak in the 1970s. I think there are probably more than a handful of people listening today and who are watching today, and I know you remember the battle between Julian Bond and John Lewis for that
Starting point is 01:56:12 congressional seat coming out of Georgia. See, white nations are terrified. Brutal. And they were terrified of Julian Bond. John Lewis, not so much. See, the idea that you can appeal to the humanity of a white supremacist. I understand you got to refer to the founding fathers and you got to refer to those criminals, those fleeing felons that had your ancestors captive. I understand you got to say what you
Starting point is 01:56:39 got to say. But I'll all in with this. I hope what you said is in fact what these, what the democratic leadership will do. I hope that they will overwhelm these white supremacists. I hope they will not leave the congressional progressive caucus out on a limb. I hope that they will show the same energy they used to, every time somebody showed up that wanted to fight with both fists, whether it be Cory Bush and now Wesley Bell is in the damn legislature, whether it be Nina Turner and now Santel Brown is in. I hope they show that same energy when it's time to fight these white supremacists and punch them in the face.
Starting point is 01:57:26 Social media, I saw one of these young people call the leader Jeffries, Apex Shakur. Listen, let's be crystal clear now. You've got to fight these people. So that same energy that was in that speech, we need to now see it in dollars, we need to see it in organization, and you need to see that in Solidarity with people you might not agree with on everything But you cannot now turn around and try to walk that middle the road because if they take the house and get and take it By one vote or two votes those quote unquote conservative Democrats or soft white nationalists who were then caucus with the Republicans or at least cast their
Starting point is 01:58:02 Vote with Republicans. That's when you know that the middle, as Dr. King said, that lukewarm thing, the worst enemy we got, the white liberal, when we read, where do we go from here, chaos or community, comes out to play. This is a, this is, this can be a turning point. Let me just stop because I'm not going to say what I trusted in that because we got to do the right thing either way. But shouting good trouble and no, man, you speaking a language they don't understand, brother. The thing here, Eugene, when I talk about in terms of how do you move forward,
Starting point is 01:58:34 the thing here which is critical is that for all of these Democrats who are mealy mouth whining, complaining about Mom Donnie, they're idiots. Because what they're not doing is they're not asking the right question. And the right question to ask is, how did he win? They're not asking. They're not asking.
Starting point is 01:59:04 They're not asking, they're not asking, how did he run a smart, sophisticated, targeted campaign that spoke to the present day needs of the voters, that studied those who set out previous elections that activated them, that piqued their interests and that turned out. That's why the Bill Atkins of the world, they can all be praising Eric Adams and all sorts of stuff like that. I'm telling you right now, I don't think for us, there's no doubt. I think he wins the general election because what the people, what progressives, what Democrats, what people who lean Democrat, what people want is they want to see somebody who is speaking in to them in a way that is addressing their real life issues, who is not talking to them
Starting point is 02:00:08 from 30,000 feet, but who is doing what Joe Madison said, you got to put it where the ghost can get it. And look, I hope Democrats find a new learner lesson, right? Because they had an opportunity when AOC beat Carly and learn a lesson, right? Because they had opportunity when AOC beat Carly and she got elected, right? And this New York election is a much one, a much broader demo, much broader landmass, but it's one more time, another catalyst.
Starting point is 02:00:39 Last week we had a discussion, after your interview with Jasmine Crockett about how them leadership should be using their assets like a Jasmine Crockett or a Maxwell Frost. But most importantly, going back to Speaker Jeff, I mean, well, it's hated as well, eventual Speaker Jeff leads a speech early today. What he was meticulous to do is he called out every single targeted swing seat that could be easily won by a shift of five couple points. When he called out Mulatto, when he called out Lawler, I mean, some folks even, you know,
Starting point is 02:01:18 there's typically an unspoken rule within a delegation that you don't attack within your own delegation. But he understands that, hey, three of those five swing seats can come straight out of New York, right? And so he called out his own delegation members, put the targets on their backs. He laid out an agenda. I do think that part of what needs to happen, especially with the outside groups, is that the conversations have to take— the conversation that has to take
Starting point is 02:01:46 place is, hey, look, people sat out this last election, and when people were saying, hey, give me power so that I can help you, you didn't, and now you're looking at these people to help you. You can't make that same mistake in 2026. You can't look at a Hakeem Jeffries or, you know, Dem leadership in the House or the Senate and say, you know, oh, do XYZ to stop this. Well, the math is really simple in both of these chambers, and the rules are even simpler. It's majority rule. The majority rule of minority rights, right, says political science 101, every single class, you know, compared to politics, political science, policy science, any 101 class, the first thing you learn about Americans in government is that it's majority rule,
Starting point is 02:02:27 majority rule, minority rights. But it's still majority rule. Now, what people have to understand is that you have to give the people that are looking out for your interests power to look out for your interests. You can't come to them six months, eight months, a year later and say, what are you doing? You're doing nothing.
Starting point is 02:02:44 Well, hey, because of the way the system's structured, I don't have power to do anything. So, you know, today, you know, Leader Jeffries laid out on the House floor a House-Dem agenda. He called out, you know, members that represented constituencies, which effectively is, hey, the Dem leader reached out his hands to these constituencies, which effectively is, hey, the dumb leader reached out his hands to these constituencies saying, listen, if the people that you voted for, that you elected, are going to give away, you know, give away everything and not protect you, then give us the opportunity to actually work and look, I think you're going to see a wave, you're going to see a 2010, 2017, 18 wave election in 2016.
Starting point is 02:03:22 18-wave election and 2026. Noah, one of the things that Bishop William Barber does that I think is brilliant is that when they have their rallies, they do not allow politicians to speak. They let impacted people speak. You heard Jeffries read letters from individuals in those Republican districts talk about Medicaid education, people with disabilities. Every, and what I'm speaking to right now, Nola, are those white Democratic strategists who keep running bullshit campaigns that don't resonate. What you do right now, you are collecting and you are amplifying impacted people in every single one of those 35 districts and you use them like a battering ram against
Starting point is 02:04:20 the Republicans to take them out in 2026? Your comments. You know, what I heard in that speech is, three words keep resonating with me. We the people, we the people, we the people. That's what leapt out to me. I thought that this rhetorical device was used strategically as part of the congressional Senate and Hill content creators program, I have access to congressional members.
Starting point is 02:04:49 I've been a part of this fight pretty much since the beginning. I've been on the Hill at two, three, four o'clock in the morning talking to people who are outside on the steps in the rain, and then also go inside and talk to members. One of the things that everyone was saying, but had a hard time trying to figure out how to say it, was we are here for the people. And that is what I heard in Speaker Jeffreys,
Starting point is 02:05:13 Leader Jeffreys, people keep manifesting that. That's what I heard in his nine hours. For me, it wasn't necessarily about him being the next this generation's orator. I saw it as strategic. And one of the ways in which I saw it as strategic was he brought this bill into the daylight. And this is where I think the Dems were very successful. People are talking about this bill in a way that they would not have been talking about
Starting point is 02:05:41 it if the pressure was not on, if multiple needs were not on multiple necks. And to your point, Roland, just last night, I was in historic Black Chats liquor store last night, they had a whiskey tasting, and it was a smattering of Americans. And there was this one, there was this young white male who was a Democrat from Alabama. He said, I am uneducated,
Starting point is 02:06:03 and I have been a blue collar worker my entire life. And he said, I get really annoyed because the Democratic Party feels so elite that I am not a part of the party, but I've always been a Democrat. My wife's a Democrat. We moved to DC so she could work here, and I picked up my life to support her dream,
Starting point is 02:06:24 because that's how much I believe in this. So we the people needs to mean exactly that you have to keep reminding people you have to also bring uh southerners into this conversation and not just five minutes before a national election. They need to be part of this conversation. They need to be engaged in a way that has not happened in a very long time. People need to understand what's at stake in this bill. And let me tell you something about Southerners.
Starting point is 02:06:56 One thing they understand is their health. One thing they understand are their doctor's appointments. Like most of their days are actually spent around their doctor's appointments. Like most of their days are actually spent around their doctor's appointments. So this is an issue that resonates with people. This is why people are talking about this bill. When your car is making a strange noise, no matter what it is, you can't just pretend it's not happening. That's an interesting sound. It's like your mental health. If you're struggling and feeling overwhelmed, it's important to do something about it.
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Starting point is 02:09:55 So while the Republicans won this for Donald Trump, they did not win for the people. And to your point, Roland, that's what Democrats have to keep reminding people of. They won this for Trump, not for them. We the people, we the people, we the people. Here's a perfect example of what I just think is dumb. Progressive, Emma, where is it?
Starting point is 02:10:24 It was just dumb. And this is what just drives me crazy. Hold up, let me find it right here. I can't believe she posted this. Emma Viglen, she goes, you know, it would have been great. She goes, maybe if Democrats spent weeks leading a mobilization effort against the bill, a national strategy with rallies in key districts, instead of having meltdowns about Zircon, I'd be a bit more enthusiastic about Jeffrey's grand plan to delay the vote until the afternoon. What was stupid is they did that. One of the reasons this bill was so unpopular in the polls is because Democrats literally were holding town halls in Republican districts.
Starting point is 02:11:10 See, this is the stupid stuff that drives me crazy with progressives who act like stuff isn't happening, who go, oh, okay, they gave a long speech this afternoon. The thing is this, right, I'll jump in here. What pisses, Eugene, go ahead, go ahead. Oh, no, no, the thing is this, what progressives have to understand is what conservatives also have to learn, right? And then actually, it's finally switched up their pay book
Starting point is 02:11:44 for an Obama care saga. Everything, you're not gonna stop the bill, right? And then actually finally switched up their pay book on the Obama care saga. Everything, you're not going to stop the bill, right? But what you do is you use the moment to build for the party and the power that you want come next cycle. In 2010, Republicans were in the worst worst position Democrats are right now, and they rallied and lined people up and had people, you know, flood Congress during the passage of Obamacare. The bill was going to get passed, but you used the moment to build to what you want. Speaker Jeffries actually used a tool, right, and it's actually unique, literally to just the leader of the party.
Starting point is 02:12:24 Only the leader gets unlimited talking and speaking time. So essentially, use the only years of a house filibuster to maximize the moment. And these progressives who probably have never given to a candidate, who probably never knocked on the door, who's probably never run for office themselves, probably isn't involved in their local deal, Democrat apparatus in one
Starting point is 02:12:45 way shape or form. I can go to twitter or facebook. No I just I don't do that. I'm sorry. Don't do that. Greg go ahead. Okay don't do that. Don't do that. Let's be very clear. You know this is not we need to stop acting as if we are in a high school civics classroom. These are white supremacists. When you see Mike Johnson, when you see Steve Scalise, and they behind the desk doing their little dance a couple of hours ago, Steve Scalise was protected by a black woman and black law enforcement when somebody tried to take his life, and that punk-ass racist continues to be a white supremacist. This isn't a two-sides thing.
Starting point is 02:13:29 Yeah, I agree with you. I got a lot of friends who are alter-radical. They're like, listen, are they both parties the same? Duopoly, I'm constantly in rolling nose. You've been beating that back as well. But this is something else. Yes, Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders have been out there, and then, you know, you've
Starting point is 02:13:45 got Eric Swalwell go out and now they're starting to do that. But the Democrats are turning. Let me be very clear about this. This isn't Democrats versus Republicans. This is white supremacists and billionaires versus everybody. If you're not going to do that, what you said before and Roland said as well is very important. How did Mamdani organize? He spoke to issues. He was sharp, he was fast, he knows what he's doing. He's 33 years old, he's making these great videos, he's going to get an egg and cheese in the bodega and he's tying it to taxes and billionaires getting breaks and he's saying, you know, we got to free these buses, we're going to have some community, some city-owned grocery
Starting point is 02:14:22 stores. And guess what? He wins after all those people, including all those Negro politicians in New York City, elected officials that lined up behind a man who should never have office again, Andrew Cuomo, like they were saluting the flag. I'm looking at Greg Meeks over the shoulder of Hakeem Jeffries sitting there. And when Cuomo lost, Bill Ackman and all them racists
Starting point is 02:14:45 went and pulled Eric Adams out the grave and said, stand up and salute. And Lord, the Democrats have done not a damn thing. So here's the thing. You're not gonna compromise with a white supremacist. And beating up the progressives is a recipe for a loss for the Democratic Party in 2026. Put that in the book, brother.
Starting point is 02:15:07 All I'm saying is very simple. And that is the reason Jeffrey's speech today was important is because you've got to have something that you begin to galvanize people around. You couldn't just say, oh, like I'm telling you, I'm just sick of these progressives who think that, oh, they could have somehow stopped this. The question now is, if you despise this bill,
Starting point is 02:15:35 what are you going to do now? I am quite sure that there were numerous times Dr. King and Ralph Abernathy and, and, and, and September Clark and Fannie Lou Hamer, I'm quite, I'm quite sure there were numerous times, James Foreman, James Farmer, I'm quite sure there were numerous times, A. Philip Randolph, where they were just frustrated and they was like, what, I feel like I'm speaking into the wind. But the reason they kept speaking, the reason they kept protesting is because they understood it's the constant churn and it's the awakening of people. And what's going to happen when
Starting point is 02:16:19 this bill gets signed, the cuts begin to happen and people begin to cry. They then begin to cry first, then they begin to cry out, and then when they cry out, they then are looking for some place to go. They're looking for some place to join. They're looking for some place to tap into, and so the responsibility of Democrats, of progressives, of civil rights groups and nonpartisan groups is to be able to say, we have created the place for you to come. We are a place for you to join. We're a place for you to sign up. We want you to engage in this. That is the point of it. But it is ludicrous to sit here and go, I beg God, he just spoke so long. It was a long speech. It did nothing. Everybody knew his speech was not going to somehow
Starting point is 02:17:14 cause Republicans to go, oh my God, a lightning bolt has hit me. The Lord is speaking to my spirit and therefore I'm going to change my vote. No They knew the Lord that they serve the little G God they serve is Donald Trump But the whole point there is if I could give somebody a sliver of hope Give somebody a sense that we hear you and we understand you then we can go from there But see here's the challenge now.
Starting point is 02:17:45 The challenge now for Leader Jeffries, the challenge now for DNC Chair Ken Martin, the chair now for Chuck Schumer, the chair now for the PACs and consultants and the candidates and the activists. The challenge for them now is what are you going to do after July 3rd? What are you going to do after the bill is signed July 4th? What are you going to do after July 3rd? What are you going to do after the bill is signed July 4th?
Starting point is 02:18:06 What are you going to do on July 5th and 6th and 7th and 8th and 9th and 10th and 11th and 12th and 13th and 14th and on and on and on? That's really what the challenge is. And so when you have people who are in a position who are ready to take action, that now means that if you're Jeffress, you're going out and you're recruiting Candace in every single race.
Starting point is 02:18:31 That means that you're sitting here crafting a message. That means that you are stopping and bitching and moaning out Mom Donnie and studying his campaign and studying his commercials and studying his strategy and looking at how they did it because what you're going to have to do in that district where they have 64% on Medicaid, you're going to have to go get those folks because they don't vote. You're going to have to not go out and try to convince some Republicans to vote for you. I'm sick and tired of hearing Democrats say, we're going to have to, yes, and Yank, Guber and others, we have to listen to them.
Starting point is 02:19:03 No, we don't. We don't have to listen to them. We don't have to talk to them. What you have to do is activate the 90 million folk who don't vote. You have got to be able to reach them in a certain way. And that folks is how you win. And I guarantee you, y'all can write it down right now at 7-11 PM Eastern on July 3rd, 2025, that if Democrats have the courage to sit amongst the people and not talk to the people, not preach to the people, but listen to the people and engage the people and then activate the people, then you are
Starting point is 02:19:46 going to see a blue wave sweep across this country come November 2026. And then they'll be able to say it all began with an eight hour and 44 minute and 25 second speech on July 3rd that exposed this nasty, ugly, dangerous bill for the whole nation to see and did not allow it to be passed in the middle of the night. The question is for folk watching, for folk who are tweeting, for the folk who are posting, for the folk who are complaining, the question you who are posting, for the folk who are complaining, the question you now have to answer, I go back to that movie, The Untouchables, when they're in the balcony, in the church balcony. You got Kevin Costner.
Starting point is 02:20:40 That's right. He's sitting here across from Sean Connery. He said, Connery said, what are you prepared to do, Elliot Ness? Well, I'm prepared to do whatever I need to do under the law. He said, then what are you prepared to do? Then. He said, when one day come at you with a knife, you come at them with a gun. One of them put your people in the hospital, you put one of them in anymore. He said, that is the Chicago way. And that is how you do it. But he said,
Starting point is 02:21:13 what the question is Mr. Ness, what are you prepared to do? And that is the question that I have for the more than 5,000 of y'all watching right now for the folks who are listening if you want to see something change I don't need you you can't vote today what you can do right now is go out and inform and educate and enlighten tell folk to watch this show tell people what needs to happen and we need to be sitting here letting them know what's going on and what happens and what closes and what gets shut down and who gets affected.
Starting point is 02:21:52 We're going to be telling these stories. And then when the time comes to pull that trigger at the ballot box, we rain holy hell on these evil, despicable people, vote them out of office. And then we say after 2026, JD Vance and everyone else, we coming after you in 2028 and you sit here and run over them like a locomotive train. But that cannot happen if folk sit on the sidelines and whine and complain.
Starting point is 02:22:28 Nola had to go. Let me thank Greg. Let me thank Eugene for joining us on today's show. Tomorrow we will be playing the rendering. And Greg was one of the folks who participated. What to the slaves of 4th of July? That speech that Frederick Douglass gave that speech that still resonates today will be playing that tomorrow while Republicans are happy and they are
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