#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Black man starves to death in jail; Somalia humanitarian crisis; SF says $5M in reparations
Episode Date: January 18, 20231.17.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Black man starves to death in jail; Somalia humanitarian crisis; SF says $5M in reparations An Arkansas family is suing the county jail after a mentally ill man was ...arrested, held in solitary confinement, and died of malnutrition and dehydration. We will give you the harrowing details about what happened and what you need to know. Freshman Texas Representative Jasmine Crockett won the Congressional District 30 seat that Representative Eddie Bernice Johnson held. We will speak with her about her first two weeks on the job. A San Francisco committee studying reparations has proposed a one-time payment of $5 million to each eligible African-American inhabitant of the city. We will show you what the city plans to do now. Somalia is facing a humanitarian crisis like never before. We will speak with a member of a Texas Non-profit who is helping to aid families and children who are dying from starvation. We will tell you what you can do to help assist in the crisis. Our new you 2023 segment is back with Weight-loss specialist Dr. Rovenia Brock. Her latest book, "Lose Your Final 15," is helping people transform their lives. Support RolandMartinUnfiltered and #BlackStarNetwork via the Cash App ☛ https://cash.app/$rmunfiltered PayPal ☛ https://www.paypal.me/rmartinunfiltered Venmo ☛https://venmo.com/rmunfiltered Zelle ☛ roland@rolandsmartin.com Annual or monthly recurring #BringTheFunk Fan Club membership via paypal ☛ https://rolandsmartin.com/rmu-paypal/ Download the #BlackStarNetwork app on iOS, AppleTV, Android, Android TV, Roku, FireTV, SamsungTV and XBox 👉🏾 http://www.blackstarnetwork.com #RolandMartinUnfiltered and the #BlackStarNetwork are news reporting platforms covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Today is January 17, 2022.
Coming up on Roland Martin Unfiltered, streaming live on the Black Star Network.
An Arkansas family is suing a county jail after a mentally ill man was arrested,
held in solitary confinement, and died of malnutrition and dehydration.
We discuss the harrowing details of what happened to the man.
He couldn't afford $100 bail.
Freshman Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett out of Texas
will be here to tell us about her first two weeks on the job
and what it's like having to be in the minority in Congress like she was in Texas.
A San Francisco City committee studying reparations
proposes a one-time payment of $5 million
to each eligible African-American inhabitant of the city.
Somalia is in the midst of a humanitarian crisis.
Like never before, a member of a Texas non-profit
helping to aid families and children
who are dying from starvation will join us.
Let us know what we can do to help.
Plus, we continue our Fit Live Win, a new you in 2023 segment.
We'll be talking with weight loss specialist Dr. Rovenia Brock, also known as Dr. Ro.
She'll be in studio to discuss her book and share small changes we can make for our ultimate health. Y'all, wait till I show y'all what United Airlines did
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An Arkansas family is suing a county jail after a man was arrested during a mental health crisis.
He died of malnutrition and dehydration while in custody.
Larry Eugene Price Jr. was arrested in August of 2020 and taken to the Sebastian County Jail.
Price suffered from severe mental illness,
including schizophrenia.
He could not afford the $100 bail
and waited a year in prison in solitary confinement.
He reportedly ate his own excrement
and refused his medication.
The photos you are seeing or about to see He reportedly ate his own excrement and refused his medication.
The photos you are seeing or about to see are quite graphic and may be triggering.
At the time of his arrest, he was 6'2", weighs 185 pounds.
When he died a year later in August of 2021, he weighed just 90 pounds.
Eugene Price's brother, Rodney Price, is suing Turnkey Health Clinics, LLC, the healthcare corporation providing medical services
to people at the jail, a Turnkey psychiatrist and nurse,
and several other unnamed defendants.
The lawsuit claims the jail staff was not equipped
to safely manage a patient like Mr. Price
on a long-term basis.
It did not have sufficient staffing or training
to provide him with safe,
effective care. My panel, Dr. Mustafa Santiago Ali, former senior advisor for the Environmental
Justice EPA, Randy Bryant, diversity and inclusion strategist, speaker, trainer, and writer,
Dr. Jason Nichols, senior lecturer, African American Studies Department, University of
Maryland College Park. Mustafa, I'll start with you. First of all, this is what we talk about when people talk about ending cash bail.
If you have those policies in place, that man is not sitting in solitary for a whole year.
If that's the case, Sandra Bland is not sitting in jail as well.
And so when you have these people who are against that, well, there are people who have no business being in jail.
A year in solitary
confinement because he couldn't make $100 bail? Yeah, we have a broken system in our country,
and one that, of course, focuses on black and brown folks and exploits them in so many different
ways. You know, the United States Civil Rights Commission shared a report that showed that 60 percent of folks who are dealing with this
type of situation cannot afford their bail.
And we also know that, for first-time offenders, it's like between $500 and $2,500 for the
bail that people can't even make.
So for this brother to be in this situation, it's just so egregious that they would allow
these types of things to happen for his life
to be taken, for there'd be no processes in place to step in when you see someone losing that type
of weight. It sounds like they also didn't have the proper mental sort of situations in place,
making sure that the right types of therapy and individuals are in place to make sure
that he had what he needed. But it all goes back to the fact that folks should not be sitting in jail in these types of situations.
Jason.
So to me, this is, you know, especially tragic.
One of the things that we need to do, particularly with our incarcerated population, is to improve the health care.
There's no way you see a man who's 6'2".
I'm 6'2", and I weigh about 180 pounds, and I'm a slim guy.
If you see a man getting down to that weight,
then he needs severe medical treatment.
He needs help.
And instead, they watched him waste away
and lose 100 pounds and die.
There's no way you can tell me that the staff saw this man
who came in at a particular weight
and saw him get down to the point where he can't walk, I'm sure,
and said, oh, everything's okay, we're going to continue.
And I can tell you, my wife works at an HIV clinic
and they had someone who
was incarcerated that usually don't deal with incarcerated people, but one person came in
or was brought in and then he brought back to the jail. And they had to call the jail staff
and tell them that this man had elevated blood pressure and he needed blood pressure
treatment. And they had to argue with the jail staff the entire day
trying to get this man life-saving medications
for his high blood pressure.
So there are some serious changes we need to make,
not only to our bail system.
We all know about Kalief Browder.
We all know about the situations where people are sitting in jail.
We know that there are effective alternatives
like ankle monitoring and other things you can do if you think that these things are a problem.
But the health care, to see a man starve to death, this wasn't a heart attack or something acute.
This is something that happened over weeks and weeks and weeks. And to see that and to let it
happen, I think is a crime. Those people should be behind bars.
And that's the piece there, Randy,
is not just a civil suit.
It really should be criminal charges filed as well.
Absolutely should be criminal charges.
And really, the entire system,
we need to completely revamp,
as my brothers have said today.
Bail, Black people are given bail
and have a bail sentence more than any other race,
of course, just like the criminal
system always, you know, takes poor care of us. And also when bail is set, our fees are much
higher. The bail amount is much higher for black people. So this, you know, this is an issue that
we should all consider for our entire race. Again, it's really shameful there. So our goal is to have the family on later this week.
So we certainly hope that happens.
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only on the Black Star Network. All right, folks, the discovery of additional classified documents
at President Joe Biden's home in Wilmington, Delaware,
took center stage during today's White House briefing.
Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre filled the reporter's inquiries, including whether Biden was helping look for documents.
Given these documents have shown up in very personal spaces, we all know that the president loves his Delaware home.
It's an extremely personal space for him.
Is he physically joining in the search for these things, rummaging around these boxes
in the garage and wherever else? I mean, literally? Are you listening to the question
that you're asking me? Look, I mean, okay, look, look, look, I'm going to be very consistent here. I am going to be very clear here, as I have been for the past couple of days, almost a week now, dealing with this.
You know, we are going to any specific questions that you have about this issue.
I would refer you to my colleagues at the White House Counsel's Office who spent almost an hour taking these questions
from all of you, many of your colleagues. I'm going to let you ask that question to the White
House Counsel's Office. And anything else specific to this, I refer you to Department of Justice. I
refer you to Special Counsel. Now, Jean-Pierre said the search of Biden's home in Wilmington
was complete. The latest discovery is the third time the White House has disclosed
finding classified documents tied to Biden within one week.
Biden's attorneys say they discovered six additional pages of classified materials.
The documents were found Wednesday, and the initial batch of about 10 classified documents
was found on November 2nd at the president's former office at the Penn-Biden Center in Washington, D.C.
Jason, I want to start with you here, because when we talk about these documents here,
obviously Republicans, they have seized on it and they are going crazy about it.
But there is a great contrast between these Biden documents and what Trump did?
There certainly is.
And I think even though, you know,
some people have criticized President Biden for not being forthcoming in, you know, the discovery,
one of the things that we know that he's doing is compliant,
which, of course, we know Donald Trump lied about it,
had his lawyers lie about it.
So it's a very different situation. It's still embarrassing. I still think that this looks bad
for the president. It's the kind of news he doesn't need when he has so many good things
to talk about. Record unemployment, you know, the lowest unemployment in 53 years, and creating 11 million jobs.
Inflation is falling. All of these good economic numbers that everyone was trying to batter him
with, he's in a good position right now. But instead, now we're focusing on these classified
documents. And even though there is a big, enormous gap between what Trump did, where he was saying, these are my documents,
and, you know, what Biden did, where Biden is complying,
it still gives the right all these talking points to say,
hey, he did it too, you know,
and they're going to have all these investigations.
We know they're in charge of the House,
so they're going to investigate this and not investigate Trump. And it really makes for a bad situation. I hope they get to the bottom of
it. I hope as soon as they get to the bottom of it, they bring it out to the press so that
everything is transparent. I think the DOJ has handled this in the right way by having the special counsel, who, by the way, voted against Joe Biden in 2008.
Joe Biden and Barack Obama, he supported John McCain and gave him money. So you can't say that
this is some sort of home team event going on by the DOJ. They got the special counsel. The special
counsel is nonpolitical. And if he is,
he's to the right. So I think this is a good thing. I don't think anything bad is going to
come out of this, but it does give the right a talking point and a false equivalency to put out
there. And that's a problem. It really does screw up the momentum of this White House, Randy. And frankly, look, Washington, D.C. reporters, they love stuff like this
because they can chew on it every single day.
And then the problem is you create a new news story every day.
Found one day, news story.
Found a second day, news story.
Found a third place, news story.
And so to me, this is one
of those where, really,
the whole deal is
search everything.
And then, frankly, don't do
a second and third or fourth. Do
one announcement. Say, we've
looked everywhere. When they
found for the second and third time, I
wouldn't have said, Jack.
I would have done a complete suite. Say, we've now looked everywhere. We've exhausted the entire search. This is what we found
because you're creating, it's another news cycle every time you discover some documents.
Absolutely. And especially because they're going to try to equate this with Donald Trump and his
documents. And so I hope that Biden and his team are very aggressive
in showing the differences in those two cases. One, I mean, really, it shows how Biden's team
is transparent, because it was Biden's attorneys who discovered the documents, whereas with Trump,
they were demanded back, you know, by outsiders. So that's one thing.
Secondly, at this point, there have been 20 or so documents found that Biden had,
whereas Trump, there are over 300. Some of them marked top secret.
And also, as we're seeing how Biden is complying and showing that he's participating and ensuring that he has, you know, that he corrects this wrong.
Whereas Trump, of course, as we know, there is a whole obstruction of justice situation.
So I hope that they highlight that and keep reminding people that this is not the same thing whenever somebody brings it up.
Mustafa, again, D.C. loves process.
They love a scandal.
And Republicans are going to leech onto this.
You know, the House is going to do all they can.
And this is where, from the administration's standpoint,
and this is where sometimes you can be, you know,
so open, so transparent
that you create more problems for yourself.
We know the yahoos and the last fool who was there,
it wouldn't have happened.
Right.
Well, we know when President Trump was there,
there was intentionality in him taking documents,
as was shared.
You know, this is a diversion from Republicans
to the fact that we have a number of significant issues that they have no idea yet how to deal with. They don't have a plan. They don't have policy. So they want to make sure that folks continue to focus here. This also, as you said, is the media once again. There are a huge amount of important, critical stories that are out there that have everyday impacts in people's lives,
and they're not focusing on those. I think this is also, to be fair, an opportunity for
our current president to make sure that they tighten up the process, because many of these
documents, of course, are from an earlier time. You know, we know that our president is very
focused on doing the right things. They have reacted in a proper way in saying, you know, we know that our president is very focused on doing the right things.
They have reacted in a proper way and saying, you know, we're going to take a look.
We'll find what's out there. We'll make sure that it gets back to the right individuals and follow the Presidential Records Act moving forward.
So there are going to be staffers who are going to make sure that they understand what the requirements are.
And I think that that just strengthens the process, not only for this president, but as we move forward with whomever might be president in the future.
And again, you get all the back and forth, all the back and forth that's going to happen,
you know, in these press briefings. And you're going to have folks all trying to get on television. And look, they're going to make this out to be the worst thing in the world, and you name it, it's all going to happen, and that's what
is going on.
I do want to sit here and say this.
President Biden talked on Monday when he spoke to the National Action Network when it came
to the issue of student debt relief, and he said that I have your back on this.
This is going to be a continued fight, Jason.
Of course, we now know the lawsuits that have been going on as well.
This is one of those issues that black young folks care about, just like other young folks
as well, but we are more affected than anybody else.
And so African-Americans want to see this administration have a vigorous fight to save student debt relief.
Yeah, I mean, I hope he can do everything possible with his executive power,
because we know it's not going anywhere with some of the crazies that we have in the House.
Many of them, you know, like Lauren Boebert, who is a recent high school graduate and never, you know, doesn't have the debt concerns that many other Americans,
particularly black Americans, particularly black women have with education debt.
And he says he's going to fight. And I'm really hoping to see that.
And I'm hoping to see also a fight on voting rights.
That's something that, you know, we didn't see the progress that we wanted. They had two
pieces of legislation up, and neither one of them got through. And it seemed like the White House
kind of threw their hands up. I'm hoping that they're going to go forward with these things
that Black people want, because let's be 100 percent honest, the majority of white people
did not vote for Joe Biden. The majority of white women did not vote for Joe
Biden while they always called the suburban white woman vote. The people who voted in large number
for Joe Biden were Black men and Black women. They are the base. So just like Trump fed the base,
I hope that Joe Biden really fights for this student debt relief,
which will, of course, help to increase wealth for many Black people and allow for Black men
and women to start families, which is an incredibly important thing.
Indeed, indeed. And also today, also today at the White House, the Golden State Warriors, they dropped by the White House,
and they, of course, were there after winning.
They chose not to go to the White House when that other fool was there.
And so President Joe Biden, as well as Vice President Kamala Harris, both greeted them.
They were invited to the White House by both of them.
Steph Curry, he spoke.
And while he was there, he also addressed the issue of the White House's involvement
with Brittany Griner. And so it was great to actually see that happen. And so here is what Steph said.
Something that we don't ever take for granted. Seven years ago, I believe we were here last
celebrating our first championship
and now back to celebrate our fourth.
So to have this opportunity to reflect
on the accomplishment last year,
to bring everybody together to celebrate that,
to also acknowledge the place sports has in bringing
people together from all walks of life, all backgrounds, to provide inspiration, hope, love,
togetherness. And that's what our journey was last year. So to have another opportunity to
celebrate that means a lot and a great opportunity for us from the basketball community to thank President Biden and his staff
for all their hard work and diligence
on getting Brittney Griner home.
It was a big part of our basketball family.
And it means a lot to know that she's here and home,
safe with her family and all the work
that went on behind the scenes to make that a reality.
So I just want to say thank you there.
And very excited to be here and celebrate the day,
celebrate with our families, and appreciate the invitation.
This is truly, truly special.
So thank you to everybody.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you so much.
And, of course, there were many folks, Randy,
who really pressed upon this administration
to bring Brittany Gardner home.
And they had to.
You know, she is a Black woman who is gay,
and I don't believe that under any other administration
that she would have been brought home,
to be very honest with you.
And I don't even know if people had not pushed.
I mean, I really love the activism
that was behind supporting this sister
and getting her home,
because people would not let it go. And the pressure was applied. And so, yes, I'm so just
happy that she is home. And really even just to see Steph Curry call her a part of the basketball
family because, you know, as a DEI person that, you know, women in sports is given more respect these days than it has been in the past.
Indeed, indeed. And so that was a very good thing there at the White House.
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Hatred on the streets, a horrific scene, a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence.
On that soil, you will not replace us.
White people are losing their damn minds.
There's an angry pro-Trump mob storm to the U.S. Capitol.
We're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance.
We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial.
This is part of American history.
Every time that people of color have made progress,
whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson
at Emory University calls white rage as a backlash.
This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys.
America, there's going to be more of this.
There's all the Pr proud boys, guys.
This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because
of the fear of white people.
The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women.
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All right, Congress is back in session.
Republicans now control the House.
For Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, that is not unfamiliar.
She has spent her time the last several years in the Texas legislature.
Republicans have been in control there as well.
She joins us right now on Roland Martin Unfiltered.
It took forever for you and the other newbies to actually get sworn in
because Republicans couldn't make up their mind about Kevin McCarthy to be their Speaker of the House.
And we've already seen really what their focus is
when you look at the rules change, how they want to roll back the funding for 87,000 IRS agents.
They want to protect the rich in this country as well. So what do you make of what you see from
your colleagues on the other side of the aisle thus far? First of all, it's good to see you. But, I mean, Roland, you and I both knew what it was going to be.
I mean, we could have been hopeful, right?
But this is a party that has increasingly decided
that it was going to show us who they are.
And they were going to do it and not be ashamed about it.
You know, you just talked about a number of racist attacks and the extremism.
You have been talking about this for quite some time. Right now, as far as I'm concerned,
we've got white supremacy leading the party that has an R in front of it. I don't know where the
real Republicans are, but I'm like the song right now, will the real Republicans please stand up,
please stand up? Because what we're dealing with now is not what the American people sent us to
D.C. to do. Well, the fact of the matter is the real Republicans are standing up, and you see
what happens. You got that nutcase out of Georgia, Marjorie Taylor Greene. They were pointing her to
the Homeland Security Committee. Talk about one of the folks who was involved in the January 6th domestic attack on the United States. They also appointed election deniers as
well. And so they are perfectly comfortable with these folks who were participants in the
attempted insurrection against the United States. Yeah, I mean, you talk about Marjorie Taylor
Greene, but, you know, in my class, we've got George Santos, and Santos specifically asked for financial services.
The one thing that he definitely should be nowhere near is financial services, and that's exactly the
committee that he wants to go to. Now, allegedly, McCarthy told him that he will not get a seat on
that committee. We will see what happens, but we do have this situation where it's the tail that is wagging
the dog, right, where it is just this small—and I say it's a small portion of the Republicans.
But honestly, I think that there are definitely Republicans that sit back and say, you know what,
I'm going to let them say everything that I'm thinking, but I agree with everything that
they're doing. And so they hide behind this facade of I'm
a moderate or I'm reasonable. And they let, you know, certain people like Matt Gaetz and they'll
let Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene like be the face of all the drama when in actuality,
they really agree with the positions that they've taken. And, you know, what we saw, though, on the floor when we were trying to get voted in was that seemingly we don't have a two party system anymore.
Seemingly within the Republican Party, there really a group of people that said we're not going to stand with our party.
Essentially, they weren't really standing with us either, but they were standing with us, at least to the extent that we all agree that Kevin McCarthy was not equipped.
And as we go through this term, I think it will be clear as to why the Republican Party really is not equipped to continue to lead the House and definitely should not take the reins over the Senate and definitely don't need a place in the White House.
Well, and speaking of Santos, go to my iPad, Henry.
You see he got two committee appointments,
one on the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology,
and then he also on the House Committee on Small Business.
Didn't he lie about owning a business?
So I'm like, why in the hell is he on that committee?
He's lied about everything.
I mean, one of the things that I said when the lies started to come out was, do we even know that this is his real name?
And where are all the people that wanted to look for Obama's birth certificate?
I mean, we got somebody who admittedly is an immigrant who also we know had charges pending in a whole other country.
So, you know, I'm like, why aren't we asking these questions now? All of a sudden we want to trust the word of somebody who literally has only revealed
to us that the one thing that we should trust is that he's most likely not telling the truth.
I will say that, you know, small business, there probably was a little bit of space.
It probably wasn't one of the more competitive committees. But as far as I'm
concerned, he really shouldn't have any committee assignments at all because we are entitled to so
much sensitive information, information that I'm just not really sure should be in his hands right
now. I know that he was duly elected, so I say duly. He was elected. And so, yeah, he was going
to get sworn in. I knew that we weren't going to be able to stop that.
But just like Marjorie Taylor Greene did not have committee assignments or she was stripped of her committee assignments in the last term,
I think that until these investigations have been completed because of the seriousness of the nature of them,
because of the own admissions that he's made, because he is under investigation not only by the DOJ, not only does he have ethics complaints that
have been lodged against him, he's got a local prosecutor looking at him, as well as the New
York State's Attorney's Office. I think that all of that is a very compelling reason as to why we
should not seat him on any committee at this
point in time. Questions from the panel. Mustafa, you first. Yes. Well, Representative, welcome to
Washington, D.C. And I know all your sisters of Delta Sigma Theta are excited for you being there.
You know, when you were in the Texas House, you introduced a number of pieces
of really important legislation. As you get started with the Republican House in place,
what are some of the things that you hope to be able to achieve?
Yeah, so this is tough, considering what this House looks like. But some of the pieces of
legislation that I was able to move were actually around marijuana.
So there is a space in which the Freedom Caucus kind of comes around, and they come all the way around to where they're a little bit left.
And so marijuana is one of those spaces.
And so we see that we've got a majority of states that have legalized marijuana in some way. We know that drug crimes have disproportionately affected minorities for years and years, and we know that they continue to disproportionately
affect minorities. And because I serve a majority-minority district, I think that this
is a great place to start because currently we have a memorandum of understanding that allows
for these states to operate. But I think that we need to go a step further. I think that we all need to be pushing for full legalization, which would afford more opportunities for
these businesses, and start to change some of the practices around these businesses.
A lot of these businesses, while they are not considered to be legal businesses, they
still are taxed by the federal government, and they still have some say-so over what they get to do.
One of those things is that they are prevented from hiring people that actually have
convictions for drug crimes. So once again, we are in a space in which we are still
being pushed out. They made money off of our bodies, and now they're making money
another way, right? So it's like, well, if we can't have the bodies anymore, then we'll make the money this way, yet still they are
boxing us out. So I think marijuana legislation is something that I may be able to forge ahead on,
especially because I think that we can get bipartisan support around the idea that
businesses need an opportunity to be able to put their money into banks and things like that.
I also think that it's important that we lay down a marker, if nothing else, as relates
to interstate commerce and abortion access.
I know that a lot of these crazy state houses, including mine, now that they have passed
some of the most extreme abortion bans in the country, they want to go a step further
and tell a woman that she is not allowed to cross
state lines. I know that they should know, but it's a lot of things that Texas should know,
that that is infringing upon interstate commerce. And that is something that falls
clearly within the purview of the federal government. And so I think that we need to
codify that. And then finally, because I'm sure somebody else may have a question,
coming from the state of Texas, I've got to deal with guns. And so I want to look at what are our options as far as expanding homeland security and what it is
that falls under their purview, because we see a lot of these mass shooters, which Texas leads in
mass shootings right now. Got it. They have been online and they have basically said that they
were going to do these things. And I would like for Homeland Security to be able to go in and investigate.
All right.
Congressman Jasmine Crockett, we appreciate it.
Thanks a bunch.
And we'll see what happens with the craziness in the House.
We're Republicans now controlling it.
Thanks.
All right, folks.
Got to come.
We come back.
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Also, a lot of people are mad at Ed Reed, the new head football coach at Bethune-Cookman,
because of his comments on social media.
I will share my thoughts about that on Roland Martin
Unfiltered.
Plus, I also want to talk about MLK Day.
Are we doing this thing wrong?
Why is there a focus on a day of service?
Shouldn't we be protesting?
Huh.
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All right, folks.
Hall of Famer Ed Reed is the latest professional athlete hired by an HBCU
to be their head football coach.
He was hired by Bethune-Cookman University.
He has not signed his contract yet,
so he's technically not the head coach yet.
But he's already started,
and he caused an uproar on social media
the other day on Sunday
when he did a live stream
and he posted this particular video here.
I want to show it for you.
Again, a lot of people were mad, upset. Folks have been trashing
him, saying he's wrong. Others say, you know what? We think Ed Reed is right. Watch this.
I've been mutting and showing shit. I chose not to. But now I'm out here walking with the football
team, picking up trash. But I'm mutting us. Man, get out of here, man. I should leave. I'm not even under contract doing this.
I'm mutting us.
Man, get out of here, man.
They mutting me.
These motherfuckers ain't even cleaned my goddamn office when I got here.
I'm mutting y'all.
Get your ass, man.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
All this shit here was trash in front of me.
Who you think got this shit cleared out? That building right
there got trash in it. It's fucking trash. What are you talking about? Need no goddamn
donors to come out and help out, because people just want money.
That's why I don't fuck with social network. Fuck out of here, man. I've been muttoning
and showing shit. I chose not to, but now I'm out't fuck with social network. Fuck out of here, man. I've been mutting and showing shit.
I chose not to.
But now I'm out here walking with the foot.
He had previously done a video.
He was complaining about conditions there,
saying there are people who were at the university, frankly,
who were not looking out on behalf of the students.
It caused a huge uproar.
Of course, he then took to social media to apologize.
He issued this particular statement here. He said, our culture, betterment, and bringing our foundation up got the best of me, and I felt victim while engaging with antagonists on social media as well. I'm fully aware of the hardworking
folks at our school who are also fighting to make things better and more financially sound.
I am encouraged from my communication with my AD and our administration and understand it's a work
in progress. My passion is about getting and doing better, and that goes for me too. Now,
he earlier had made a
comment where he said that he had agreed with Deion Sanders, where he said there's a broke
mentality that exists among HBCU administrators. And so folks got just lit. They were upset and mad
and all of that because of what Ed Reed had to say. So let me unpack what my thoughts on here.
And that is this here.
It's a lot of people out here who have a lot to say.
But the reality is most people have never actually worked in a black-owned institution.
Let me repeat that, have never actually worked in one. First of all,
there are 230,000 students that are black students that attend
HBCUs. 20% of HBCU students are
non-black. There are 1.5 to 1.6
million black students that attend PWIs. Now,
when you look at HBCUs, a little more than 100 in the country,
you look at black newspapers, a little more than 100 in the country. And so when you start talking
about black-led institutions, we could talk about black newspapers, we could talk about black
churches, we could talk about black-owned businesses. Pre-COVID, there were 2.6 million
black-owned businesses in America. 2.5 million of those black-owned businesses had one employee doing about average revenue of $54,000.
Why am I saying all of that?
Because the reality is there is a consistent thread when you begin to look at black institutions,
lack of resources, a surviving mentality versus a thriving mentality
based upon the conditions in which
they have been confronted with.
When I listen to a Deion Sanders or an Ed Reed or others,
and let me be perfectly clear,
I've done 19 commencements, 15 at HBCUs.
I've actually visited, spoken at, and been on the campus
of at least 66 of a nation's 107 HBCUs.
I've had numerous conversations with HBCU presidents and administrators and alumni.
So let me be real clear.
And also, I've been to Bethune-Cookman several times, even addressing their alumni about fundraising.
So for folk who say, well, man, you didn't go to one, trust me, I got receipts.
And the reality is this here. When you work in an institution, you're seeing things in a much
different way. You're looking at conditions of places. The reason I understand where Ed Reed
is coming from is I run three black newspapers. And I can tell you what happens when you begin
to challenge status quo.
And I know somebody who's watching and saying,
well, man, that ain't right.
So I'll give you the perfect example.
1999, I became executive editor of the Houston Defender.
That was the first place I had worked at,
we actually got paid for, paid in 1990.
I came back nine years as the managing editor.
And we were actually at a conference, at an NNPA conference in New York City. And we were sitting
in a meeting and they were going back and forth. The papers were complaining about the lack of
advertising dollars that black newspapers were getting from CompUSA. At the time, Tom Jordan Morning Show and Tevis Smiley
had went after CompUSA for their advertising. And so I'm sitting there listening to the conversation
and as they're talking and as they're talking, and after about 30 minutes, I really got fed up
with the conversation and I raised my hand. I said, let me ask y'all a question. If Cop USA asked any of you to send them your media kit
via PDF and email, could you do it? Somebody in the back said, who is that young nigga up there
talking? And I don't use the N-word. I'm telling using that because I'm quoting what happened. I said a young
nigga with email who knows what a PDF is. I said you can't sit in this room and complain about
CompUSA not buying ads in black newspapers if you yourself don't even use computers.
And so when you are hearing these criticisms, there are people who get real
defensive. And I was in these meetings, the people that were sitting telling me, well, you know,
Roland, we can't do this and we can't do that and we can't afford to do this. And I said, wait,
wait a minute, hold up. This ain't about whether you can afford to do something. The question is,
what are the basic fundamental things that you're doing? And so when
you start talking about facilities, you got to ask yourself the question. Okay, you are mad at Ed Reed
for his comments. Here's the question. Was he speaking the truth about trash on the campus?
It's either yes or no. Do you have staff who actually does that?
It's yes or no.
He said, my office wasn't even clean.
This is a very basic question.
Were the coach's offices clean before he arrived?
And if the coach's offices were not clean before he arrived, why not?
You now got to start asking yourself the question.
What about the team's conditions?
The locker rooms?
I've heard complaints from other universities
where teams are washing their own clothes.
Why?
You gotta begin to ask these questions.
See, what we have to stop doing as black folks,
we've got to stop being
so defensive about
our black institutions
and begin
to ask the questions,
are these things right
and how do you fix them?
Every answer
is not, well,
we don't have. Y'all,
I've been there. And if y'all want to sit here and go there, Houston Defender, Dallas Weekly, Dallas Examiner, Chicago Defender.
When I took over the Chicago Defender, it was horrible.
Nobody wanted that job.
Nobody.
We couldn't afford to get the furnace fixed because every time they called somebody out,
they wouldn't pay anybody.
Okay?
Folks said, we have to get paid the cash.
We ain't doing it.
It was dirty.
It was dusty.
It was nasty.
It was 20 degrees in the winter, and it was 100 degrees in the summer.
It was called the Chicago offender because of all the errors in the newspaper versus
its actual name, the Chicago defender.
Folks didn't get paid on time. I can go on and on and on. But see, the difference is I had worked in black institutions,
and so I came in with a plan in terms of being able to fix it. Chicago Defender lost money 20
consecutive years when I got there in 2004. We lost money my first year. We made $100,000 profit my second year,
a $400,000 profit my third year. Why am I saying that? It's because at some point, we as black
people have got to stop being so defensive when it comes to our churches, our schools, and our businesses, and they begin to ask the question,
are we doing things the wrong way as opposed to the right way?
Congressman John Lewis, the late Congressman John Lewis,
when he got the NWA CP Sping Arm Medal in Houston,
he said this about his mother.
He said, my mother used to sweep the dirt of our front yard.
He said, we were so poor we didn't have grass in our front yard.
He said, but she would sweep the dirt when company was coming over because she wanted the dirt front yard to be neat.
And so what I'm saying is, and again, my first black paper was a Houston defender.
Sonsira Masai-Jowes, she did things the right way in terms of how she ran it.
So that was my floor. I saw how she ran a black paper. So that became the standard for me,
and I said, I'm going to build upon that. And so if we are going to transform our institutions,
what we've got to do is stop being defensive. And then, yes, and Ed Reed made broad generalizations
about all HBCUs. That is a mistake.
But go talk to some HBCU presidents, and they'll tell you about the conflicts with the board of directors.
They'll tell you about the problems.
Go talk to HBCU faculty who will talk about the issues they have as well.
There are some commonalities that do exist among our institutions.
And what we have to begin to do is get real
about those very challenges.
If you got trash, it gotta be picked up.
If grass needs to be cut, grass needs to be cut.
We have to, whatever we have, take care of what we got.
But what we cannot do is act as if what Ed said somehow was 100% wrong.
We can't act like what Dion said was 100% wrong.
We can criticize.
We can say don't generalize. But I'm trying to get us to understand as somebody who is working in my 13th black-owned
media experience, I kind of know what the hell I'm talking about.
And I've had enough conversations with black people in black institutions about what needs
to happen in terms of how we have to fix them and run them. So let's stop being so defensive and mad and upset when somebody
who didn't go to an HBCU
who then comes to work for one begins to ask some questions.
Because if the whole point is to raise the place,
if the whole point is to bring in additional resources with one's
contacts, isn't that the point?
Some folk need to check themselves.
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So I'm seeing a lot of the comments in our chat and people like, man, he shouldn't have been cussing.
OK, so which is it? You mad he cussed or you mad what he had to say?
I mean, I mean, which is it? And again, I've read all the comments. I've seen all the people had to say. And really what I think this is, Mustafa, Randy, and Jason,
what I really think this is, is that a lot of times we as African Americans,
man, we can't be airing our dirty laundry as if the laundry ain't already aired.
And the thing is, it's about how do we change.
And the reason I get it, I heard so many people, man, these people talk about black newspapers, but they ain't never worked at one.
OK, what about those who have?
What about what do we have to say?
And what what we're talking about here, Randy, is that we're not talking about how do we achieve black excellence.
No, how do we achieve excellence period?
Again, my framework for a black newspaper
was formed by a black newspaper.
How Sonny Masai Giles ran the Chicago Defender
in terms of how she paid, in terms of being paid on time,
in terms of how our offices looked,
all those different things, she said, in terms of being paid on time, in terms of how our offices looked,
all those different things, she said,
I'm running a first class operation.
I can tell you point blank, Randy,
that ain't been the case at some other black media places
I've run in terms of how they've done business.
I just think that we sometimes are so sensitive
to criticism that we get mad about tone and ignore substance.
You're right. If we're honest, you're absolutely right. We are sensitive because we don't have a
lot. I mean, we haven't been, we don't have a lot because of, you know, the situation in this
country. And so what we do have, like our Black institutions,
like our HBCUs, we hold very dear. I'm a graduate of Tuskegee University, grew up on Hampton
University's campus where my mother, grandmother, and everybody went, and my mother was also a
professor. And so I do have this protective nature about HBCUs, and it hurts.
I take it personally when people say negative things.
Since you mentioned Tuskegee, here's a perfect example.
Tuskegee had a president, and the board did not tell—the board was supposed to notify the president within 90 days of his contract whether it was going to get renewed, and they didn't.
So he's like, I don't know what's going on. And so he got a job interview and he went and did it. He comes back. They fire him by
saying, how dare you go on the job interview? He's like, hey, I got a family. Y'all were supposed to
notify me based upon my contract. And here's my whole deal. If you Tuskegee or any other HBCU,
you should be worried if your president is not being pursued by somebody else,
because that means don't nobody else want him.
Oh, no, I agree with you.
I'm just saying I think it is difficult for us, but I do think that we are a people, I believe,
that has become married to the struggle sometimes. Yes. And that our eyes are
down. And we need to be willing to raise our heads up and look at things honestly as they are.
One, to first own that we can do better. We deserve better. We have the resources to do better.
And to do that, that means you have to look at where you are honestly and critically.
It's hard.
Absolutely.
I understand the defensiveness, but it is absolutely necessary that we talk about the problems that we have.
We need to do better.
But, Jason, it's not hard when your goal are the people you're serving.
And here's what I mean by that.
When I remember when I was getting this back and forth,
when it came to the newspaper and folk were upset with me
with some cuts I made and some changes I made.
And in fact, when I was in Chicago,
that was some Negroes who actually were protesting me because of the changes I made. And in fact, when I was in Chicago, that was some Negroes who actually were protesting me
because of the changes I made.
And the folk on the inside were all scared.
They were like, protest.
I said, mm-mm.
I said, don't lock the front door.
Bring me the subscription cards.
And first of all, what they did is they paid some folk down
at the shelter.
They only could afford them for 45 minutes
because they gave them some food and about $30.
And so they were protesting.
And so I walked outside, and they were sitting there passing out pamphlets talking about boycott the Chicago Defender.
I said, give me some subscription cards.
And so I walked right behind them.
Every time they went to a car and gave them a leaflet, I gave them a subscription card and said, they can kiss my ass.
They can go to hell.
And I said, no, y'all ain't going to sit here and play this game with me.
And then there were some people in Chicago. I'll never forget, Don Jackson, Circle City Productions. And he was
like, well, they had a reception for me and we were at the DeSable. And he said, well, you know,
Defender, it's really awful. I don't know if you can turn it around. I said, oh, it's going to get
turned around. He said, we'll see. I said, oh yeah, you will see. See, I knew what I was going to do I wasn't willing to run from how awful the paper was
I wasn't willing to run from how bad it was
But what I did say is I was sure y'all asses how to fix it and we did
That's how you deal with it. You don't sit here and get mad because somebody called you out
I didn't get mad with Don had to say I I said, I'm going to show you I'm going to fix it.
Right.
That's exactly, you know, I agree with you 100%.
I look at someone like Ed Reed who is investing his time.
He doesn't need the money.
He's the greatest safety to ever play the game.
Yes, maybe I have a little bit of Baltimore bias there,
but I really don't think it's a question.
He doesn't need the money.
He's doing this because he wants to change things.
And one of the things that you do as a head coach is you change the culture.
And one of the things that he clearly wants, it reminds me of an old joke, Roland.
I'm sure you saw, I think it was Friday, you know, next Friday or whatever, where, uh, you know, Day Day says to Ice Cube,
he says, uh, you know, they tried to mess up my 20s.
And then Ice Cube looks out and he says,
yo, those are 10s.
What did Day Day respond?
But I keep them clean, though.
So at the very least, do what you can with what you have.
Right. If you want these Black
athletes to go and
not go where Ed Reed went to the
University of Florida and to
skew the Power Five
conferences and not go to the SEC,
then you have
to at the very least have
good, clean facilities,
not just, hey, we're going to give you a good
education because they can get a good education at the University of Florida. They can get a good
education at the University of Georgia. They can get a good education at the University of Maryland,
and they will if they choose to go there. But one of the things that I think needs to happen is,
at the very least, you have to take that pride. Someone has to mow the lawn, someone has to line the field,
the practice field has to look good,
the locker room has to be clean.
There are things that need to be done,
and people need to be there.
They have to have a good equipment manager,
or somebody to... an ice bath.
These basic things that are for the good well-being
of the athlete, well-being of students,
they have to have clean dorms.
These are things that you absolutely have to have
if you want for students
to have the best experience possible.
It can't be, yes, look at the history
and we've done this.
Yes, but you've got to have good facilities
and do the very best you can to thrive
instead of, well, we're just, you know,
we're just making it.
You should be proud that you went to Morehouse
or you should be proud you went to Howard University.
That's not going to apply.
And here's the thing, Mustafa.
Again, I think a lot of people upset
because he was angry, he was bothered.
And yes, he was very,
he was clearly ticked off in those videos.
And my advice is, Doc, don't get that emotional about it.
Because, again, as somebody who has been in black-owned media, I've walked into...
Y'all have no idea how awful the Chicago Defender was.
Then I had people who were on
the inside who were fighting
me the whole time.
They wanted me out so bad
they released my salary to
the public and a fool gonna send
us a letter with my salary
in it. I know damn well he got it from the inside.
And I told the cats on the inside
y'all can kiss my ass too.
Because guess what? I'm like, y'all clearly kiss my ass too. Because guess what? I like,
y'all clearly couldn't fix it. And that's why I'm here. And so I think what has to happen is,
whether you are an Ed Reed or you a Dion or some other people, I think what you have to do is,
you have to, in a very different way, lay out, here's our problem. This is what we are facing.
And you come to the public and you say it.
You literally say, and again, for me, I wouldn't do it in that emotional way. I would say,
I want y'all to see what our facilities look like. This is our locker room. Y'all, this is
unacceptable. This is this, this is this. Now, there may be some university people who are still going to be pissed off because, oh, man, you're putting our business out there.
No, I'm showing you exactly what we actually have.
Now, Roland, because I've done this, I'm going to lay out my three-year plan.
I'm going to say this is what I need.
This is what I need for us to build.
This is what I need for us to raise.
That's how I'm going to do it. And so,
but we, but what we can't not do is we've got to stop Mustafa being angry when somebody is pointing
out deficiencies and then say, here's my plan to raise us up from where we are. I can't accept
the deficiencies. As somebody who hates litter, I'm kind of with it.
I lose my damn mind when it comes to trash. That's just how I am. I'm OCD like that. But it's about
raising our institutions and not getting mad when somebody is demanding better. Go ahead.
You know, we use the words black excellence, and sometimes we don't understand everything
that needs to go into that.
We ask our students for Black Excellence.
So they should be surrounded with that excellence
in all forms and fashions.
And part of Black Excellence is actually evaluation.
As you just shared, it is about evaluating
where we currently are and where we want to go to.
And then the activation comes into that,
of putting that plan in place. And that plan may mean some folks have to go to. And then the activation comes into that of putting that plan in place.
And that plan may mean some folks have to go, some things have to change, or we grow and build upon
the things that are positive and that are moving forward. So in everything that we do, we have to
actually begin to take a deeper look into what does Black excellence actually look like and what
do we need to do to be able to support that? And I'll just close with, if we truly care about our HBCUs, then everyone should be making sure that we are actually helping
to support them financially and other ways as well. That's it. And so again, you use Black
excellence. I use excellence. Because here's why. There are some people, and because of my experience,
some folks have been like,
well, you know, this is a black company.
And when I was at TV One, I said this,
and I said this to anybody who works in this show here.
If you say, well, you know we a black company,
you will be looking for another job because what you're actually saying subliminally
is that we are second class
when you actually say that.
And so those things actually happen.
And so for me,
I don't care whether it's
a, I don't care whether I work at the Austin American
Statesman or the Fort Worth Telegram,
I want to see a clean newsroom.
I don't want to see equipment broken.
I want to see excellent
all around.
For me, there is no standard.
Somebody called me once and they said, hey, man, I need to get your speaking rate.
I need the black rate.
I said, ain't no black rate.
The black rate, same as the white rate.
It's the green rate.
And again, we have to demand more from our institution.
When I say more, meaning if you're going to demand it from them,
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Stay woke. Folks, Somalia is facing a hunger and poverty problem
that they have not seen in decades.
The humanitarian crisis has surged due to historic weather changes causing massive drought
and a 20-year insurgency by Al-Qaeda.
The United Nations Children's Fund says more than 500,000 children could die by the middle of this year
unless urgent action is taken.
Currently, most children admitted to Somalia's hospitals don't make it
because families don't have the means to make it to medical facilities
in time for life-saving medical care. To discuss this issue
is Abdi, a board member from the Mood Foundation, a Texas-based
nonprofit that's helped communities in the Horn of Africa for
over 22 years. Glad to have you
on the show, Abdi. Here's the thing. When I think back to
We Are the World, that was an idea that originated with Harry Belafonte. Somalia was one of the
places, Ethiopia was one of the places where Harry and others went. They were talking about
the crisis when it came to children, Somalia, Ethiopia, many of these different places.
And so when you think about this, we're back to it. And unfortunately, when I think about Rwanda,
when I think about so many of these humanitarian crisis in African nations, what happens is,
and this is why I'm saying this, in the United States, we often talk about what's in the economic interest of the United States.
And so our response to that is different than a humanitarian crisis.
Ukraine, that is seen as in the economic foreign national security interests of the United States.
And so all the focus about the folks who were dying there,
but over here when you talk about half a million dead,
you pretty much have silence.
Right. So thank you for having me on the show.
This is my first time that I went to this show.
Yes, Somalia has been, this crisis has been in the making for the last 30 years.
We went through a civil war for 30 years.
We have an al-Shabaab extreme group that is part of basically our problem.
We have a climate change that is basically prevalent in our part of the world. And we've been left out to spend ourselves basically to struggle
and basically work on those three issues, three factors.
And we cannot, as a Somali, figure out exactly how to bypass this problem.
There is a political crisis.
We have governments after governments that did not have any capability of basically putting a system to prevent famine to their own people.
We have al-Shabaab who basically controlled certain parts of the country.
Well, the famine is prevalent right now in south-central Somalia.
We're the breadwinner of the Somali people, if you look at it, we have the climate
crisis, basically.
Rain used to come every year, fertile lands, a lot of basically cultivations.
And now we see the rain comes in every five, six years.
So with all these issues, we've been left to fend for ourselves.
Big countries like United States and Europeans and the non-profit organizations, for example,
the NGO, the United Nations organizations, if a place is not secure or security is not good,
they don't go. So that is the problem that we have. There's a lot of people in Kenya,
a lot of organizations in Kenya, a lot of organizations in Kenya,
and they don't go and deliver the food
or whatever that is because they say it is a security issue.
Yet, as you've mentioned that they go to Ukraine,
they go to any place that has got the same shield.
I mean, I'm not belittling that Ukraine is basically issues,
but the whole world has been basically helping Ukraine at this point.
And the same amount of people are dying.
In 2011, we had a famine.
About 260,000 people died.
Half of them were kids.
And now, 2023 or 2022, the projection is about 500,000 kids.
Kids less than five years old, will die.
So it is-
That is absolutely devastating there.
Questions for my panel.
Let me first start with Mustafa.
Yeah, well, first of all, thank you for the work that you're doing.
I'm curious, what would you like to see those organizations of color here in this country do to be better supportive of the things that you're trying to address back home?
We established as a Somali-American organization called Amud Foundation, which I'm part of it.
And we are the ground people.
We know where to go, where where the you know security is with
our people basically and we still we distribute foods we we help orphans we create mch's we can
we deliver dry food uh we deliver water wells we deliver water on on a trunk on the tracks
medicines all kind of stuff what What I want from our Black Friends
organization is
to tag up with us, the Amud Foundation
or any other organization
that is indigenous to the
cause and help us.
Either basically help us
on funding raises,
raising funds, or donating by
yourself, and that way let's be
our conduits for everybody who's helping for the Somali cause.
I mean, I know there's a lot of kids who are dying.
This is deja vu again, 1984, when We Are the World was basically,
when we're hearing the song of We Are the World, there's a lot of people are dying, really.
And we expect and we hope that the African-Americans
in this country help and chip in as well.
And you can go through us, or you can go through another organization that basically sends
the money and the food and the health directly to the people who are affected.
Randy.
It's hard for me to even talk about this.
This is very painful, very painful watching this video. Is there a way that we can put pressure on our country?
Are there any plans to try to appeal to our government? What has been done?
Well, I mean, lack of government always causes a lot of issues. When you don't have a proper
government, the basic necessity of the people of that country will fall off, basically. And since the 1993 debacle of the Somali black hole down,
America basically did not come up from and say
that we're going to help Somalia again.
They kind of like, they hold their hands and they say,
no, that's it, we're done.
So in the political view, there is no movement, basically.
No... Normally you have to have a government,
a big government who's pushing you, basically,
to stand a government, so you can.
But when you offend, when everybody doesn't...
Everybody's fighting each other
and nobody's basically beating the other one,
we are all equal, right?
We're there.
So, yes, we would need a political
situation,
a resolution
to put Somalia
into the front front and make sure
that that country comes in as a viable
country that
helps its own people
as well as be peaceful
with its neighbors. We still don't
have that one with the Europeans or the Americans or anybody else.
Let's go to Jason.
So thank you for coming on.
I have a couple of questions.
I guess the main question that I have is what kind of U.S.
I mean, you mentioned Ukraine, where the U.S. is involved.
What kind of U.S. intervention from the U.S. government would you want? We've seen
the U.S. get involved on the continent of Africa, and it's been disastrous.
You know, I know that they are involved in some of the things that are going on
with al-Shabaab and trying to deal with that situation.
But, you know, we saw what happened in Libya,
and that did not go well.
What kind of intervention would you actually want from the U.S. government?
Well, first of all, humanitarian.
I mean, a lot of people are dying.
So food, medicine, all kind of stuff
that you can basically stop the bleeding
of those people who are dying is very important, very eminent.
That's number one.
Number two is the government right now in Somalia.
Even though the United States of America is fighting al-Shabaab through the sky, basically they're sending some kind of drones,
we need, I think, to my understanding, we need the help of the United States
to give arms, not the United States military,
but at least the United States arms
to go to Somalia and build the military
and all kinds of stuff,
and then they can fight Al-Shabaab.
Now, if Al-Shabaab is eliminated,
probably then there would be a little hope
that people who are fled, there is a lot of IDPs.
IDPs is basically people who have left their livelihood, their farming, their animals, because they could not cultivate because of al-Shabab or people are taxing.
People will go back to their original place and they can basically live in peace.
So we need to basically move those IDPs and shut down those IDPs and move back to their original locations.
And the first step that we're going to do is to defeat al-Shabaab.
And al-Shabaab is one of the tombs in Somalia at this point.
The rest will basically resolve in a year.
But right now, that's our problem.
We are fragmented.
We don't know exactly where we're going.
Nobody listens to nobody.
And we need a force, an external force,
to push the Somalis, basically, into a statehood.
How can folks help your organization?
If they want to see and support, where do they go?
If they want to support, we have amutfoundation.org.
Amutfoundation.org is our website.
There's a lot of products that we deliver to the people.
There's a lot of people donate through the Amut Foundation.
If you want to donate to offerings, MCH, dry food, water well,
medicines, schools,
all those things. If you look at those,
those are the IDP people that will deliver the dry
food every day
for the last three months
right now. And our president
is in Somalia at this time
assessing exactly what the problem is.
So that's where you're going to go. Go to
amudfoundation.com or.org. We will certainly spread theM. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO. GO TO AMUTHPRODUCTION.COM OR.ORG.
WE WILL CERTAINLY SPREAD THE WORD.
THANKS A LOT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
THANKS A LOT.
THANK YOU.
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I mean, could it be any other way?
Really, it's Roland Martin. Unfiltered. I mean, could it be any other way? Really. It's Roland Martin. Alexis Dash was last seen in Tampa, Florida on December 18th.
The 14-year-old is 5 feet 1 inches tall, weighs 115 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes.
Anyone with information about Alexis Dash should call the Tampa Police Department at 813-231-6130.
813-231-6130. Folks, this is crazy. A former Republican
statehouse candidate was arrested for political shootings geared towards Democrats. Yo,
seriously, y'all. Solomon Pena was arrested following a police standoff with SWAT on Monday.
He's a 2020 election denier and MAGA Republican. Stands accused of conspiring with Jose and
Demetrio Trujillo,
along with two other unidentified men, to shoot at the homes of two county commissioners,
Adrian Barboa, former Commissioner Debbie O'Malley, and two state legislators,
State Representative Javier Martinez and State Senator Linda Lopez.
Opinion is charged with four counts of shooting at a dwelling, shooting at or from a motor vehicle,
and conspiracy to commit a shooting at a dwelling, and one count each of possession of a firearm
by a felon in an attempt to commit
aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and
criminal solicitation. My man
is seriously in some trouble.
No one was injured in the shootings,
but that is absolutely crazy.
Let's go to Virginia, where a mother is suing
the city of Richmond and the police officer facing
involuntary manslaughter charges
in the crash that killed her 19-year-old
daughter.
She's suing for more than $200 million.
A grand jury indicted officer Richard D. Johnson on multiple charges,
including two counts of involuntary manslaughter and reckless driving in the crash that killed Tracy A. Williams and Jeremiah Ruffin.
Tiara Williams, federal lawsuit alleges Johnson was driving a police SUV
without its sirens and traveling twice the speed limit
when he went through a red light striking the vehicle her daughter was in on April 7th of 2022. The lawsuit
claims wrongful death and that Johnson deprived Tracy Williams of substantive due process rights
under the 14th Amendment. The Richmond City's Attorney's Office filed a motion to dismiss the
claims, arguing the city is protected from the wrongful death claim through sovereign immunity.
The city also says the lawsuit does not identify the specific policy Johnson violated,
policy that Johnson had violated by violating Williams' constitutional rights.
Folks, in San Francisco, a city council committee has come up with what they say is a rightful number
for black residents to receive
reparations. Their particular committee says that black Americans who meet the qualifications
should get $5 million each if they're an eligible African American resident of the city. The 15-member
San Francisco Reparations Committee was established to determine if reparations were needed to create
equity and the role that San Francisco may have played in upholding slavery. The committee
concluded reparations must be adequate, effective, and proportional to the gravity of the violations
and the harm suffered, and that a lump sum payment would redress economic and opportunity losses
that black San Franciscans have endured.
Now, the committee also proposes wiping out all debts associated with educational, personal, credit card,
and payday loans for black households.
A separate task force created by California's legislature is also studying reparations.
What do you make of that proposal, Mustafa? You know, my old boss, John Conyers, who introduced H.R. 40 back in 1989
reparations bill, I think that he would be he would be proud of the work that they did before
and the work that's happening in this moment, having, you know, these smaller commissions that
are actually really taking a deep dive into how do we actually help our communities to heal. So I'll be interested
in seeing what comes out of this and if it becomes real for folks to actually be able to receive,
you know, past payment for all the injustices that have happened there in San Francisco.
Randy.
Well, if you want to see people's reactions, read some of the comments on these, on these,
on the articles. People are going to fight hard against it, as you well know.
One thing is that people do not have an understanding of the history of the United
States, which is why critical race theory is so incredibly important. They don't get it.
I also just want to mention that, you know, members that of the Holocaust that are still
getting payments to this day, any surviving members, and Jews have been paid since 1945,
like $90 million have been paid out in reparations.
But that was because people took accountability for what happened in the
Holocaust, whereas there has not been much accountability taken about how African Americans
are history here in this country. So, you know, it's going to be a hard battle.
Jason.
Yeah, I agree. I think it's going to be a hard battle, but it's a battle worth fighting.
And I think that we've seen these small kind of victories where where people are raising the issue of reparations and repair.
And I love the fact that they're talking not only about things that have happened in the past in terms of slavery and even with segregation,
but also things like payday loans, which, you know, and other predatory financial practices that were, you know,
African-Americans in particular are being preyed upon and talking about how black people are still being preyed upon and still need an opportunity to grow wealth.
And that's one of the things that we need in our community.
So reparations are sorely needed.
And I'm glad that there's starting to be these kinds of conversations, even if it doesn't necessarily go anywhere,
because you look at I still look at it as an important step because you look at Georgetown, you look at Evanston, Illinois,
you look at what happened in another part of California where people are actually starting to see
that this is an important step to healing and to growing wealth for black communities.
All right, folks, time for the ABCU Connect.
Spike Lee has launched a new fellowship for HBCU students at the house.
His alma mater, of course, is Morehouse, Spelman, Clark Atlanta, and Morris Brown. Morehouse graduate, of course, Spike Lee, has partnered with the Gersh Academy,
the Gersh Agency, to start the Spike Fellows Program.
Fellows selected in the Atlanta University Center Consortium gain access and exposure
to opportunities and entertainment as recipients.
They will get industry mentorship, a postgraduate internship, full-time employment at the agency.
Stakeholders will select the fellows in the AUCC and members of the Gersh Agency's management.
Spike said it is with great honor, privilege, and excitement that I announce the Spike Fellows
in association with my partners, the Gersh Agency and the AUCC.
From the jump and get-go, I knew when, not if, I opened a crack in the door,
I was bringing as many black and brown folks with me
in front and behind the camera.
Now, folks, only students in the undergraduate programs
at those institutions are eligible.
Fisk, conversely, is planning to transform dorm rooms
on his campus by using shipping containers.
24 blue and yellow dorms are planned to be ready
for the fall 2023 semester
and will house 98 students. Now, Fisk executive vice president, John Fredrickson, called the new
dorms innovative, edgy, enterprising, and forward-thinking. It's also, in part, forged by
necessity. We have rapid growth and relatively limited liquidity. Fisk University has broken
ground on the traditional dorm,
but won't be ready to house the influx of students they've received.
Fisk only had about 600, only had about 620 students on campus. They saw record-breaking enrollment in 2022 with more than 400 incoming first-year students.
What do you make of those containers as dorms?
I wonder how that's going to go over, Randy.
I think it's fantastic. I think it goes
back to the story we just spoke about where we have to be innovative and be open to change.
And so I think it's great. Mustafa? Yeah, you know, that's a part of the whole recycling
movement and sustainability, sustainable housing. So this is actually being utilized in a number of different places across the planet.
And there are projections that this is some of the types of housing that will be created moving forward over the next 10 years.
Jason.
Yeah, I mean, I guess I echo what everyone else on the panel has said, and that is, you know, essentially if there's a need for housing
and you have a way to create it in a way that's equitable and sustainable
and all those good things that we talk about,
then I think that, you know, we should go ahead and do that.
And that's what they've done, and I think it's great.
Also, folks, Tennessee State University unveiled a significant initiative with what they're going to do with $250 million.
Of course, remember, we've been talking about the funding crisis there at Tennessee State in terms of what they are owed.
A state committee there said that they really were owed about $577 million, but they, of course, were only allocated
that $250 million. And so a significant part of that is going to deal with, of course,
infrastructure. Infrastructure, infrastructure. That's one of the things that they're dealing
with there. This is a story that, let's see if I can pull it up right here for you folks, that one of the local media outlets used.
Now, it's not going to be to add on housing.
But again, they announced on Monday that the $250 million in state funding, go to my iPad, please,
is going to be used for major infrastructure projects there.
And again, but not dealing with
the issue of housing. And so that's what's going on. It's the single largest one-time investment.
This is from State Representative Harold Love, Jr. of Nashville. So this is the single largest
one-time investment in an HBCU in the country. And so that's the announcement there. But still, that's $250 million.
They're owed $577
million. So we should still
be fighting for additional money.
And that's, again, Randy,
in my King Day speech in Wichita, I said
if you ain't having a money conversation,
you're not having an American
conversation.
That's right.
And they definitely need to fight for that money and not settle,
not just say, well, at least we have this.
That goes back to my statement about being married to the struggle.
They need to get the money owed.
Indeed, indeed.
So, folks, let's get the rest of that money for Tennessee State.
All right, y'all.
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We continue our New You in 2023 segments.
We, of course, have been focused on this since we came back on January 3rd.
So we've had a variety of folks, fitness folks, dieticians.
We've been talking about smoothies, reducing belly fat,
lifting weights, cardio, all that good stuff.
But clearly, if you listened, the through line
through every interview we've done is that nutrition
is really the most important thing when it comes
to changing your life, when it comes to diet and how it comes to changing your life,
when it comes to diet and how it impacts everything in your life.
And so why not call one of the top experts in this area, Dr. O.
She joins us here.
Hey, what's happening?
I have not seen you in I don't know how long.
I am the top expert.
Give me my props.
I had other people.
So I ain't about to get into y'all internal battles over the, you know, who's the top expert.
Show me the one that's been doing this for 30 years.
All right, so what's going on?
What you got for us?
So I want to talk to you about, you said the through line is nutrition, and it is.
Every time we have a fitness person, even they say, look, you can talk about working out all day if you want to.
It's 80-20, 90-10.
I've been telling you that for years.
Right?
So 80% food, 20% fitness, really.
And the reality is in this society, the focus is really 20 on food and 80% on fitness.
That's the reality for a lot of people.
Right?
But we want wanna change that.
So what are some of the things
that you wanna put on your plate?
What are some of the things that you wanna do
that you wanna put in your body for your best health?
First, you gotta have an array
of fresh vegetables and fruit.
Right, right.
And if they're not fresh, get them frozen.
You get the same nutrition.
And sometimes for, you get a much bigger bang for the buck.
All right, So you will.
So you want to get that.
You do want snacks.
Hold on.
Hold on.
First of all, before we move to the snacks, because let's deal with the fruit.
Yeah.
Because, see, I love all these Instagram, Twitter, YouTube diet experts.
Yeah.
Because you're going to have people who say, oh, Doc, it's too much sugar in the grapes. And then I see some people, no, you can't have too much watermelon.
And, oh, the banana? No, it's the sugar in the watermelon. then I see some people, no you can't have too much watermelon. And the, oh the banana, no it's the sugar
in the watermelon, oh the lemon is the,
I see, I'm like, you know what, first of all,
this is why I cuss people out and they get mad,
they like rolling, you shouldn't be cussing people out.
But seriously, people, folk, they make it sound like,
hell, you're gonna be eating grapes 24 hours a day.
Exactly, and they're throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Okay?
So that's not what we want to do.
First of all, the fiber in these fruits and the vitamins and minerals in these fruits, you can't throw that out.
Right?
So the fiber in the fruit helps to slow down the sugar that would go into the blood and raise your insulin level.
Got it. Right? the sugar that would go into the blood and raise your insulin level, right?
But this isn't, that's not what's happening
when we talk about fruit as opposed to added sugar
in a cookie, a piece of cake, in soda, that kind of thing.
So, whole different story.
It's a totally different story.
And also, for you also, it's different fruits.
It's not like you're eating grapes, just grapes.
You want a variety of fruit.
You want a variety of foods because there's no one food that can make you healthy or that
will help you to lose weight.
Whatever your goal is, there's no one food that will do that.
And there's no one food that in the proper quantities can do that.
So you need a variety of food in their proper quantities because that's where you get all the nutrients, the antioxidants,
the phytochemicals, and all those chemical compounds that work to make you healthy.
So, okay.
So, I hate nearly all vegetables.
Yeah, I know.
No, no, no.
But see, so here's the deal.
I remember when we did the interview with Michelle Obama in her garden, and she was like, Rollie, it's fruits and vegetables.
I said, precisely.
You said fruits and vegetables.
I said, so if I ain't eating most of these vegetables, but if I'm doing fruit,
I said, don't that count?
It counts towards something, Rollie.
Okay, all right.
What did I just say? I said you need a variety of foods because you need all of the nutrients that come from those foods,
including vegetables, to build your health, right?
Okay, so I'm going to go here and I'm going to go over here, all right?
Okay.
So let's deal with this here.
All right, so you got grapes, you got bananas, you got oranges.
I can't stand red apples.
I do green apples.
Any apples.
Okay, but what do these lemons do?
So the lemons were there really for the water.
Notice how it's next to the water.
But lemons are anti-inflammatory.
Okay.
Okay, so that's why.
So what do we do with them?
What do we put it in the water or what do we do with it?
Do a couple of slices in your water.
It's anti-inflammatory.
So it helps to cut down inflammation.
Got it.
All right.
It's also a good source of vitamin C.
Okay.
Value of the oranges.
Yeah.
Good source of vitamin C.
Lots of fiber.
Why are you?
No, I'm listening.
Yeah.
No, I'm listening.
Great source of vitamin C.
I'm not giving you a bad look.
I'm listening.
Lots of fiber, antioxidants that go a long way to protect your health.
And when I say protect your health, I don't mean some nebulous thing.
I'm talking about when you eat like this.
Right.
You cut down.
You reduce your chances of staving off.
You reduce your chances of getting chronic diseases like heart disease, like hypertension.
Like all of these foods work to help you stave off those chronic diseases like heart disease, like hypertension, like all of these foods work to help you
stave off those chronic diseases.
Hypertension, cancer.
Okay, like for example,
this broccoli is a
cruciferous vegetable,
which means,
but it can go a long way to protect you from cancer.
Broccoli.
Yeah, broccoli. Exactly.
Do you like cream of broccoli soup?
Hell no. Okay, alright.
Not even that. I hate all broccoli.
Don't be a hater, Broly.
No, no, no. I can't stand broccoli.
There's an array
of green, yellow,
orange, all the colors
in the rainbow of vegetables
that could help you.
My dad watching. He loves everything you're saying.
Wonderful. And he also likes beans.
Don't even give me stardom.
I remember he likes beans. Don't even give me stardom on damn beans.
Oh my God, I'm having PTSD.
Yeah, but the beans are good.
And the beans are really good for your heart.
They protect you from heart disease. It's true.
Oh my God, but Lord have mercy.
Soluble fiber that will protect you against
heart disease. Okay, so over there, we got broccoli.
We got carrots.
We got tomatoes.
Okay, I do tomatoes.
I'm good with the tomatoes.
What's the other stuff?
Okay, good.
But you can't stick with one color.
The point is, I want you to have all the colors.
Okay, so if I have, okay, fine.
Okay, so if I got the red for the tomatoes.
Yeah, and you get some grapes.
I do cucumbers.
Yeah.
Okay, I'll do. Green, okay. Yeah. And you get some grapes. I do cucumbers. Yeah. Okay.
I'll do.
Green.
Okay.
Now, when it comes to lettuce, what?
I've heard.
The dark of it?
I've heard iceberg is a joke.
Yeah.
That romaine is better.
Yes, because the darker the leafy green, the more nutrition.
Now, I do romaine.
Yeah.
That arugula is awful for me.
I can't.
Okay.
Well, but in everything...
Yes, it is.
But at least if I blend it, I can...
Then blend it, brother.
I can tolerate it.
I can tolerate it.
Then blend it.
Blend it up in a green juice.
Okay.
Okay, do all of that, right?
Okay, you got popcorn here.
So I want you to eat your snacks
because people are going to snack, right?
And it's okay to have healthy snacks anyway throughout the day.
You need a little something to tide you over at the 2 o'clock slump.
But ain't no butter and salt and other stuff on here.
This ain't a movie theater popcorn, right?
No, this is not a movie theater popcorn.
That's my point.
But you don't want me to give a brand.
No, no, go ahead.
I don't care.
It's Skinny Girl.
Skinny Girl?
It's Skinny Girl.
Okay, all right.
It's Skinny Girl. Skinny Girl? It's Skinny Girl. Okay, alright. It's Skinny Girl Pop.
It's Skinny Popcorn, and what that means
is that you have fewer calories per
serving, right? Okay. Three and a
quarter cups. Three and a half cups is what a
serving actually is of this. Three and a
half cups. Yeah, three and a half cups, and
you're talking about, like, under 60 calories.
And what do we got here? So, these are almonds.
I hate most nuts. Okay, most...
Why are you hating on nuts?
I just, I just.
What is your deal?
I never liked, I didn't like nuts growing up.
I just didn't like nuts.
Okay.
I have, I have.
Put those in the smoothie too.
No, no, no.
Do that for me.
No, no, but here's what I did.
I did, I have forced myself to tolerate pecans.
Oh.
And, and, and, and I really tolerate them, pecans with a banana.
Pecans and a banana.
Look, however you get down.
Whatever the hell makes me going to eat it.
However you get down, I'm not mad at it.
I'm not mad at it as long as you put it in your body, right?
Okay, so, and what I want you to know is that when you do your snacks,
make sure that your snack is not larger than what you can fit in a closed fist.
I don't mean have the nuts all the way out here in the whole palm of your hand.
I'm talking about a closed fist.
Because this, yeah, just ball your fist up.
So if that's the case, so if we're talking about our meal,
how many times should we be snacking a day?
Okay, so maybe twice.
Okay.
Because you might have something between your morning meal and your afternoon meal.
Okay.
And then you might require another one.
Okay.
Your body might require one.
Or you might choose to have another snack between your afternoon and your evening meal.
Why my dad texted me.
Talk about quit giving Ro a hard time.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Martin.
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
Yes, because you always do this.
I do.
Yeah.
But, okay, the reason I do, I'm just being honest.
There are a lot of people, okay, who are like that.
So, again, if you're offering substitutes.
Yes.
Like, so, for instance, you know, I ain't a fan.
Like, I have a meal plan.
So, Terry Starks is like, okay, do a sweet potato.
I'm like, Terry, I ain't no damn potato.
The sweet potato is good, though.
First of all, it helps to hydrate your body, one.
But I like yams.
I like the sweet potato.
But the sweet potato has a lot of antioxidants to protect you against cancer again.
Sweet potato also is high in fiber, so it helps you to stop.
It will help you not to eat as much. Does that make sense? But the grapes are high in fiber, so it helps you to stop, it will help you not to eat as much.
Does that make sense?
But the grapes are high in fiber, right?
Yeah, but grapes have more sugar than sweet potato.
So we're talking about...
Okay, is a green apple high in fiber?
Yes, it is.
Cool.
Apples are high in fiber, and they have a substance, and the substance is called...
So I can have a green apple instead of sweet potato.
Not instead of a sweet potato.
It's not the same.
No, sweet potatoes have other vitamins vitamin a they're rich in vitamin a so they're rich in antioxidants
To protect you against cancer, okay Hold on one second. I got a good simple for in the show Is that not a win? Is that not a win? That's your answer to every food item. Dude, you know, is that not a win?
All right, hold on one second.
I got to go.
End of show?
All right, so here's what we're going to do.
All right, here's what we're going to do.
So I'm going to do this here.
We're going to end the show.
How much time I got?
I got three minutes to the end of the show.
So we're going to continue.
And then we're going to tape one segment.
I'm going to run it tomorrow.
And I'm going to have each one of the panelists ask questions.
Okay, so, Doc, let's come back.
I'm just letting you all know right in the control room.
All right, so let's come back.
All right, so your deal is you need fruits and vegetables.
Yes, you do.
Okay, all right.
You want a variety of foods.
You want fruits.
You want vegetables.
You want lean meat.
You want to eat lean, and you want to eat clean.
Okay, so look, when we say lean meat, okay, so when I'm in the grocery store,
and it says, you know, this is lean. Not ribs. Not clean. Okay, so look, when we say lean meat, okay, so when I'm in the grocery store and it says you know, this is
Not ribs.
Not ribs. Okay.
I wasn't about to mention ribs.
You know, okay, Texas. I'm talking about like what they
but I ain't got a problem with ribs now.
I'm through Texas.
But if you eat
ribs like, you know, once every six
months. Okay, alright.
That's my point. It ain't like you eat
ribs like once a month. But a lot of people eat them once a week. All right. Right. I mean, that's my point. It ain't like you eat ribs like once a month.
You just, but a lot of people eat
them once a week. I know.
But I'm saying, like for instance, I don't eat a lot of steak.
So I literally,
I'm talking about, it
may not even be twice a year. The last
time we talked, I told you to limit
your red meat to four ounces,
which is a
serving, no more than four ounces
in a week.
Oh, no.
So if you're having it occasionally,
that is the goal.
For me, it's
chicken, it's fish,
it might be ground turkey,
it might be ground beef.
Not a lot, but again, it's
rare. All right, so let me do this here, folks.
How can folks reach you?
Getdoctorow.com.
Getdoctorow.com.
That's the domain.
Getdoctorow.com.
Okay, getdoctorow.com.
Go there, get my book.
So not everythingrow.com.
Getdoctorow.com.
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Y'all, go to the website, get more information.
So here's what I'm going to do. We're going to end the show right now. We're going to shoot an additional segment with Dr. Rowe.com. Get Dr. Rowe.com. Y'all, go to the website. Get more information. So here's what I'm going to do.
We're going to end the show right now.
We're going to shoot an additional segment with Dr. Rowe.
And we're going to air on tomorrow's show because my pound looks real hungry.
And we know skinny-ass Jason, he got some questions.
You need to bulk him up.
He's like 180 pounds.
Jason needs – Jason bony as hell.
Don't hate on Jason.
No, but Jason bony as hell.
And so he need to bulk the hell up.
So I'm going to have a question for Jason how to bulk his ass up.
All right, y'all.
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