#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Black Voters Matter Relaunches ‘We Fight Back’; SCOTUS OKs $780M DEI Cuts; Rep. Corey Paris Threats

Episode Date: August 23, 2025

8.22.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Black Voters Matter Relaunches ‘We Fight Back’; SCOTUS OKs $780M DEI Cuts; Rep. Corey Paris ThreatsBlack Voters Matter is expanding its mission. Beyond p...rotecting Black voting rights, the organization is focusing on uplifting Black communities with the relaunch of its We Fight Back campaign. We'll speak with the co-founders about their renewed strategy.In a narrow 5–4 decision, the Supreme Court sides with the Trump administration's cutting over $780 million in federal research grants connected to diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives.Black Connecticut State Representative Corey Paris says he's received hate-filled threats after being falsely accused of "doxxing" sensitive information about ICE. He'll join us to share his side of the story.The U.S. Department of Education says George Mason University violated civil rights laws by factoring in race and other personal characteristics during hiring and promotion decisions.#BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbaseThis Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjs (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing.Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV.The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 In a narrow, five or four decisions, the Supreme Court decides with Donald Trump over cutting nearly $800 million in federal research grants connected to diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. Congress, we see how they are screwing up because that's their right. Black Connecticut State Representative Corey Perry says he's received hate-field threats after being falsely accused of doxing sensitive information about ICE agents. He'll join us to tell his side of the story.
Starting point is 00:02:36 The U.S. Department of Education says George Mason University violated civil rights laws by factoring in race and other personal characteristics during hiring and promotion decisions. They also have been trying to fire or get the university president of the brother to resign. Donald Trump threatens to send the Federal Guard,
Starting point is 00:02:52 national guard, to Chicago and New York, although he has no legal authority to actually. do so. And John Bolton, who served Trump as a top national
Starting point is 00:03:04 security official had his home rated. Appoint Congress and Val Demings, let's just say, she said chickens are
Starting point is 00:03:13 coming home to roost. It's a whole lot I want to talk about. And it's time to bring the funk on Rolla Martin
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Starting point is 00:03:51 Rolling with rolling now. He's funky, fresh, he's real the best, you know, he's rolling, Martel now. Martel! In the final four, decision, the Supreme Court has allowed Donald Trump and his cohorts to cut more than nearly $800 million in federal research grants associated, with diversity, equity, and inclusion. The ruling overturns a lower-course decision and allows the National Institutes of Health to withdraw existing funding.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Health and education leaders warn this action will inflict long-lasting damage on critical, scientific, and medical research. Justice Katachi Brown-Jackson issued a strong dissent while the majority claim that distributing the grants would cause irreparable harm to the government. I don't know how that's going to be the case.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Now, for now, the court has blocked Trump's new anti-DI rules for future funding, but hundreds of millions of dollars for current projects are still at risk. Now, here's the problem here. This was money that Congress allocated, and this is how Republicans aren't doing their job. They are ceding their legal authority to the executive branch. And trust me, when the Democrat is sitting in the Oval Office, you know they're going to be yelling and screaming about how, oh, my God, this is so unfair.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Folks, we're talking about cuts that deal with research, that deal with the inequities between black and white people. But when you have white nationalists and races now running the government, this is no shock. Michael Imhotep is the host of the African History Network show out of Detroit, Matt Mannington rights attorney under Corpus Christi, Dr. Julian Malbeau, economist, President Emerita Bennett College, author of Surviving and Thriving and Thriving, 365 facts in Black Economic History. y'all show the book y'all don't have a book now y'all supposed to okay y'all when we do i keep telling y'all we have offers you thank you see y'all got to show the book come on now y'all y'all got to keep up now let's go
Starting point is 00:06:01 all right let's get right down to it um i'll start with you julian this is real simple these thugs these races we see what we see how they are how they operate but again the real problem here congress allocated the money and so trump is acting like oh i have the right to do whatever I want, and these idiot Republicans are letting him. And so this is why I say to the next Democrat in the White House, hopefully after 2028, return the favor. All right, so we have issues with Julian's audio. Y'all got to let me know this stuff, y'all.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Okay, let's go to Matt. Matt, I want to take the question. Please fix Julian's audio. I might see my little fan. Okay, guys, I can't hear Matt. What are we doing? Actually, I think that was my fault, Roland. Can you hear me?
Starting point is 00:07:05 Okay, Matt, go ahead. Yeah, that was my mistake, not your staff. I apologize. I was on mute. But nonetheless, what I was saying is, I think you're right. I think what's going to happen is when a Democrat is in the White House and he or she tries to exercise this same authority, they're going to say you don't have the power to do that.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You're usurping the power of Congress. And what I still do not understand is why people in Congress en masse are continuing to capitulate to this president and ceding their own power. If Congress has the power of the purse, then, of course, the president has to be able to use that some of those allotted monies in their administration of the executive branch. However, they don't get to just by and large decide what Congress has appropriated is not going to go where it's supposed to go because that's constitutional. And the thing about this that's especially problematic is you're talking about
Starting point is 00:07:49 research grants. You're talking about what helps not only America move forward, what helps us solve diseases, you know, or cure diseases and solve major societal problems. So taking this money away under the guise of DEI hurts everybody, black and white, and people of all colors. And it's stupid. It's just a matter of them flexing their authority. But what you see the Supreme Court allowing this administration to continue to do is to try to grab more ground, more ground and more ground. And the problem's going to be, it's not going to be able to be retracted, no matter who's in the office, you know, in the next administration, and you're going to have a problem where the balance of power is forever affected
Starting point is 00:08:25 by this administration's continued usurpation of power. And listen, I keep saying this, Michael, if this is how Republicans want to roll, Democrats should say, oh, let's be clear, we are going to return the favor. Yeah, absolutely. Return the favor, take notes, understand what's going on, understand that this is how dictatorships come into power. This is taking away power from the legislative branch of government. The power of the purse, Article 1, Section 9, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution, if I remember correctly, the power to tax and spend belongs to Congress.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Donald Trump is continuing to test the boundaries of the executive branch's authority. And he continues to get these wins in this 6-3 conservative Supreme Court that he helped set up with the help of the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society. And for those that don't know, the Heritage Foundation are the ones that put out Project 2025. So, yes, as we see in California, as we see Governor Gavin Newsom just signed in the law to be able to put on the ballot, the redistricting maps. California is fighting back. Democrats in California are fighting back against this authoritarian regime, and this, we're going to have to fight all across the country. We see Trump saying now, next he's going to possibly probably going to Chicago with at least
Starting point is 00:09:55 the National Guard, the crackdown on crime, et cetera. Once again, testing the- Hold on a second. I'm going to get to that. I want to stay on the money. I want to stay on the money. It's all connected, but go ahead. I understand.
Starting point is 00:10:07 No, no, no, actually, it's not connected. That's separate. That's separate. I'm going to deal with that later. I got to stay on the money. Because the whole point, here's the whole point here, and this is the problem, and Matt, you nailed it. The problem is this here. What they are essentially saying is, whatever bill Congress passes, we can then do whatever the hell we want to.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Now, previous presidents tried to do a line item veto. The Supreme Court said that's not allowed. Matt, this is a backdoor line item veto. This is literally, I mean, again, what I don't understand, is how can a Supreme Court act as if Congress doesn't matter? The Constitution is clear. Anything dealing with money begins in the House. It begins in the House.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Congress appropriates. Then it goes to the Senate. And they're just sitting here going, hey, King Trump, go right ahead. Yeah, look, appropriation and administration are not the same thing. So Congress appropriates it, even if the White House can administer that money through its executive policy, they're not the primogenitor of that money. The money doesn't come from them. It comes from Congress. And the problem with that is, one, if you want to have any semblance of the balance of power, this actually affects the Supreme Court down the line. You're
Starting point is 00:11:24 not seeing it yet. But Congress, one of the checks that Congress actually has on the federal judiciary is the money it allots to the federal judiciary, right? So when the judges want raises or if the federal judiciary across the board needs more money, that ultimately comes from Congress. So what you see sometimes when the federal judiciary is making decisions that Congress doesn't like, Congress can either pass legislation or they can decide to rescind some of that money that goes to the judiciary. I say that to say when you are recognizing through court rulings that the executive can continue to grab more power, that affects your bottom line because of down the road he or she doesn't like you and they want to say that the money Congress appropriated to you is not going to go to you, then it will not go to you. And it seems to me to be a dangerous precedent to set rather than standing firm on the constitutional balance of power that is supposed to exist.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Well, again, they're just sitting here and like it's no big deal. And I need people to understand this is a cult we're dealing with, and they're going to allow their cult leader to do whatever it is they want to do. Now, we have a responsibility to do what we have to do. And so coming up next, we're going to talk with Black Voters Matter about what they are doing to fight what is going on. to get our people fully, fully engage in this battle. You're watching Rollo Barton unfiltered on the Black Star Network. Next on a balanced life here on Black Star Network, we're talking what it means to be a balanced young adult and turning 21.
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Starting point is 00:13:37 Hit it. It's real. It's real. Folks, I've essentially said what is taking place right now is the what Donald Trump, these MAGA idiots are trying to do, they're trying to defund Black America. They are attacking every single thing in Black America. They are attacking civil rights, economic rights.
Starting point is 00:14:08 They're attacking academia. They're attacking everything. And so we have to be completely and fully engaged in this. This is a battle, y'all, that deals with everything that matters to us. Unprecedented rollbacks and civil rights, access to health care, equity, environmental justice, you name it. So folks that black voters matter. They're expanding their mission beyond protecting the rights of black voters. They now are focused on supporting black communities, relaunching We Fight Back campaign.
Starting point is 00:14:33 This was launched in 2024. In 2024, the campaign aims to educate and empower black voters across the country. BBM is not only fighting against a fascist regime and racist policies. They're also building a campaign to reimagined democracy. Joining us right now, the co-founders, Cliff Albright, Latasha Brown. Glad to have you here y'all are on the show. So I'll start with you, Latasha. So walk us through what this means, okay, when you say, we fight back.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Exactly, what does this look like? Is this a series of town halls? Is it online engagement? So exactly what is this? It's a little of all of that. I'll just say that setting the framework that what we believe is we believe that our greatest source of power and protection
Starting point is 00:15:15 in this moment is to actually have an informed community that we're actually moving in one move, that we're aligned around, we're understanding what is happening, understand the issues, but that we're connected. It has always been our collective power and the leverage of our collective power
Starting point is 00:15:31 that's moved us forward. And so for what that means, for us is there a series of things that we do a lot of organizing with local communities. We believe that this is the moment now for us to really solidify our power locally and in our state that we know in terms of federally, like we see what's happening on the federal government level. And so our best protection is to really gather ourselves and align with the power that we have locally and on the state level. And as a result, what we do is we work with partners all throughout those states. We provide funding. We're actually having meetings and
Starting point is 00:16:00 calls. We're doing briefings around what's happening from the executive orders to what's happening to some of the rollbacks. We're actually doing strategy sessions where we're bringing our states in the last month alone, in the last two weeks alone, several of our states
Starting point is 00:16:16 and the partners, anywhere from 50 to 100 partners are actually meeting together, thinking about how do they build a strategy. Number one, to protect our community, number two, to really be able to resist and push back. In addition to the bus tours that we're doing, to actually inform folks.
Starting point is 00:16:32 We have campaigns that are happening. Campaigns really around this attack on Medicaid and how that's going to impact health access to our communities. We're also doing, we know that that is really important that criminal justice reform. We're not ending that because what is happening now. That's very important for us. So we're continuing to do the work around warrant clinics
Starting point is 00:16:51 and expand that. We're hundreds and thousands of debt. We're working to eliminate hundreds of thousands of debts for people in our communities to make us less vulnerable to the people, least less vulnerable to being in the system. Those are some of the things, and I'll share Cliff to maybe want to raise some other things as well that we're doing.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Cliff, I have long said that a year out, first of all, y'all believe the same thing I believe. There's no such thing as election season. It's 365 or 7 days a week because there are elections happening somewhere in the country all the time. and the phrase that I keep using is the need to let's say a year out we know the midterms in 2026
Starting point is 00:17:37 but your primaries are going to be beginning in the spring in a lot of these places and we need to be operating right now in what I call inform, educate, and enlighten because we have to also recognize it's a lot of folk that simply don't know I was on Ricky Smiley show this morning and talking about redistricting and gerrymandering and racist gerrymandering.
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Starting point is 00:19:59 Get your tickets today. AXS.com. In the Supreme Court case where they could wipe out half the Congressional Black Caucus, and so I think for so long, Cliff, people kept assuming people knew. And we can't assume people know what's actually happening. That's right. That's right. You know, and we have to make it clear.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Because there's a lot, I mean, there's those of us that do this work every day. And there's still pieces of it that we don't necessarily know about it all the time. There's still ends and outs. You know, even these battles that we're talking about redistricting, you know, these are maps that were done, you know, going back after the 2020 census that were done all throughout 2021. And so there were all kinds of meetings and sessions and hearings around these maps that a lot of people didn't know anything about.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And so part of what we try to do, and you talked about it, the 365 work, we do it all throughout the year. And we do it every year. It's not even just about 28 or about 26. Even this year, we've been doing that work. We've been having BBM days at the Capitol where we get together, community members and partner organizations and go to the Capitol. And it is an educational process. We're not looking for folks that are so-called experts on this, right? We let everybody know that there's a role to play.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And if you don't know, then that's even better, right? You know, we make people feel comfortable with the fact that they don't know. Because sometimes we just assume, like you said, that people understand, not even understand this whole legislative process, but even the basic voting process, we come across people all the time when we do our work, when we do our bus tours, we'll come across somebody and we'll give them some information about early voting or absentee voting or even just about what office is on the ballot. And we often will hear, you know what? didn't know that. I've never known that. Or they'll say, you know what, I didn't
Starting point is 00:21:55 know what this particular position did, right? I didn't know what a state delegate or a state house member did, or I didn't know what my county commissioner did. And so we got to let folks know, you know, that it's not a crime or something that we're going to shame you about if you come to the table, you
Starting point is 00:22:11 come to the event, and you're not already an expert. That's what this process is all about. That's what a dialogue is all about, right? And so, yes, we've got to make people know, that we want you, even if you don't know any of this, and that's okay, but we're going to work through all of this together, and we've got to do it all throughout the year 365 because we fight back. Our issues are not based on an election calendar. Our oppression has never been
Starting point is 00:22:35 based on an election calendar, so our resistance to it can't be based just on an election calendar. Right. Absolutely. And, you know, Gary Chambers is doing some work down in Louisiana, And I was meeting, I spoke in Ohio last month, Latasha, and it was so funny, I was sitting with a brother. He was laying out, you know, this comprehensive strategy. And I said to him, I said, too convoluted. Too convoluted. He was like, what do you mean? I said, you had 30,000 feet.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And he's a professor. I said, mm-mm, that's a lecture. And we were, so we were at dinner, he was like, what do you mean? What do you mean? I kept saying, mm-mm, mm-mm. I kept evoking my man Joe Madison so you got to put it
Starting point is 00:23:21 a way the dose can get it and he was like, what do you mean? What do you mean? I said, I said, give me your topics. He gave me his topic. I said, those are lectures. I said, your sessions need to be
Starting point is 00:23:32 City Hall 101. County government 101. I said, where you literally are walking people through what city government does, what county government does, I said basic fundamentals because I think the issue
Starting point is 00:23:47 that we saw and all these people who were saying Biden Harris haven't done this here and the Democrats haven't done this here and you're like
Starting point is 00:23:54 well the Democrats in the House passed the bill but it's stalled in the Senate you can't act like that didn't happen and then when folks say well stuff ain't happening then you go well no this happened and this happened
Starting point is 00:24:06 this happening in this state and this happened in this state it's amazing to me when I talk to people a lot of folk who got their degrees and everything they actually just don't know how politics works.
Starting point is 00:24:22 You know, Roman, I think you're absolutely right, which is why our strategy has always been threefold. I always talk about, I think of it as a three-letter fold table of what the work that we do. One, it's been about money, movement, and message. Money in the sense that we know that grassy groups,
Starting point is 00:24:41 there are people that know. They're folks in our communities on the front lines that are doing this day in a day out. Matter of fact, part of our survival is because there's been grassroots groups, because we have black media platforms like yours to get our message out for us to be able to connect. Because we have black organizations that we can get information or that will respond to something that's happening, that has been part of our survival and our ability to be able to progress. And so we need to make sure that we're getting money to platforms such as yours, organizations like ours,
Starting point is 00:25:09 so that we're really black controlled and we're actually being able to have the freedom from the miss and disinformation. The second thing I think is really important around movement building infrastructure, that if we're going to do this work, we've got to really come together as community. It can't just be a one-off. Part of what we saw oftentimes in the election cycles is that the parties will pick two or three issues, and then the issue is abortion. And if we're not talking about abortion, then there's nothing else that's been talked about on that platform. Many of folks in our communities, that's not the top of their list of what they're concerned about. They're concerned about from medical access. be concerned about some of the chronic illnesses that are happening in our community and seeing
Starting point is 00:25:49 the cuts or the closures of hospitals. And so it's really important that we're doing that work as well. And then message, to your point, I think part of what we've seen is over the years, we've actually seen this misinformation and disinformation that is documented that was targeted at black voters. And so we have to really, in this moment, we've got to be real disciplined. We have to listen to credible, trusted messengers, people who time to time again that you can actually following along, they're getting, bringing us good information and really be able to discern what information is not good or not information is not relevant or where the source is. The second thing is I don't think it's going to be enough just to understand kind of the functions of government.
Starting point is 00:26:30 We need to understand, yes, the functions of government. That's baseline. But we also need to understand. I always talk about this radical reimagining of what our North Star is. We've got to really get clear as a community of what it is that we want so that we're not constantly responding to those who don't want, that we know that there are those who don't want us to have anything. And so I think it's real important in this moment that we don't just see this
Starting point is 00:26:53 as a setback. We've got to see this as a set-up. We can't just go and ask that we just want a bill or a policy pass. At this point, we need to say we want the whole thing. If there's going to be a realignment, let's get it right,
Starting point is 00:27:07 that even the Voting Rights Act in itself was never enough. That Dr. King and them didn't think that that was the end. They thought that that was actually a space, and that was an additional services of protection of our right to vote. And so we've got to even ask for more
Starting point is 00:27:22 and go even go and organize ourselves to ask for more. One of the things that, Cliff, I was in Ohio I was in Cincinnati last year. And a brother who's an alpha, I was in a restaurant, he was there with his daughter, and he came up to me and he greeted me, and he said
Starting point is 00:27:41 they were doing voter registration the next day at the Bengals game, and I said, why? He goes, what do you mean? I said, why? I said, okay, I said, how much time are y'all going to spend out there? So I said, you're going to spend the pregame. You're going to be there about two, two and a half hours.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I said, how many people are going to come through there to register the vote? I said, I'm not saying that's not necessary. I said, but I said, I'm very curious. I said, have y'all ever considered pulling the, 20 or 25 blackest precinct in Cincinnati. He's like, what do you mean? I said, well, you can actually go get the data and see where the votes are.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Where African Americans are registered? I said, then you can pull that and you'll be able to see who voted in last election and who didn't. I said, so if you're talking about impacting elections, I said, and you have finite people, finite time, finite resources. I said, have a more targeted
Starting point is 00:28:44 approach. He was so blown away by that. And then I had a, when I was in North Carolina, our former general president, Everett, got a group brothers together. And I said the exact same thing. I said, y'all are in North Carolina? I said, do y'all know how many black people did not vote in Sherri Beasley's Supreme Court justice race? How many black people did not vote in the last election? I said, this is how we have to target our time, energy, and resources. And they were shocked because they were trying to take this macro approach. I said, but really, if we want to move black numbers, it actually has to be a micro approach, which is really person, door to door, street, street by street, block by block,
Starting point is 00:29:25 precinct neighborhood. Yeah, you know, and so you're absolutely right. You know, and what our approach is usually really to actually do a combination of those, right? And I think what Tasha touched on it a little earlier when she was talking about the layering of the approach, because we certainly need those things that are very micro, right, that targeting okay who exactly is it that we know that we got to reach you know what's their demographic you know where they go what do they listen to all that stuff right um but then we also layer it with different levels of some of the wider stuff and so you know we have a disbelief
Starting point is 00:29:59 that if you get a couple of text messages from us a couple of phone calls you get a door knock then you see that billboard while you on your way driving right to work and and and then you see something on youtube because sometimes we do our YouTube ads you know that because you you did one of our um um trumping trump a chick uh videos last year right and so so we believe that we can do the combination of like the the wide visibility we call it the visibility work and then combine that with like the real macro you know we want to touch you at your door on your phone that's when we tend to get maximum input and what we found last year we targeted um 3.2 million black voters who had not voted in 2020, right? And out of those
Starting point is 00:30:45 3.2, 50% of them turned out in 2024, right? Now, some of y'all might say, well, 50%, that's not a huge number, but mind you, this is 50, this is 3.2 million, not folks that were new registered, right? That they were unregistered in 2020, and then they got registered by 24. These were folks who were registered in 20 who consciously decided, I'm not voting. Y'all ain't moving me. And 50,
Starting point is 00:31:11 percent of those folks that we targeted, they turned out. That's on top of, like, the other folks that we target, that, you know, they're kind of regular. They might even be super voters. We got them to turn out, too. But we know how to get those folks that, you know, for one election, we're like, y'all not do enough for me. I'm not going to turn out.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And then finding a way to communicate through that combination of the targeted, the micro and the macro to get them to turn out. I'm Noah. I'm 13. And as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast. and I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions.
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Starting point is 00:33:28 Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today. AXS.com. So you know, so you're absolutely right, though, because there's a lot of folks that won't do. Right. That's micro that you're talking about. And see, Latasha, the reason I say that to the brother, I said because I said,
Starting point is 00:33:47 y'all are operating as a chapter. And so you talk about infrastructure, and I've said this to Alphus nationally. I said, listen, we have undergrad chapters, grad chapters. I said, but you have a local chapter. Then you've got your combination of your chapters in the city. Then you've got your state chapters. Then you got your region. And then you got national, international.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And so what I say to focus, I said, if you're local, if you're local, local, stop trying to be in somebody else's city. I said, be in your city and then take your city and then break your city down by sections of the city, by neighborhoods, and then block street houses. And the brother was like, damn, I'm taking that. And so I had another chapter. They hit me up and they said, dude, can you do a session? And when I walked them through, they were like, damn, we ain't thought about that.
Starting point is 00:34:42 And that's why I think what we have to do, those of us in Black on media, what y'all do as well, is literally walk people through because I think a lot of people with Tasha go, man, that's a whole lot. It's like, no, no, no, no, I don't need you do a whole lot. Can you knock on five doors? Then they go, yeah, I'm not going to five doors. I'm like, got it. Now, you go get five other people. And now the five of y'all, six of y'all, go knock on five doors each.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Now we've got 30 doors. And they go, well, that's doable. And so I think sometimes we just got to make this thing easy for people and not make it complicated. I agree. I think there's a couple of things that you said, because I do want to note, I think it's simple law of multiplication, right? Literally, you organize, and let's be clear.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Or what our mom was and daddy said, baby, that's basic math. That's basic math, right? And, you know, the other piece around it, too, is for us to really look at there's nothing new under the sun. If you go back and you look at black machines, black political machines, how you got the first black mayor of Atlanta, the first black mayor of Chicago. When you start looking at how black people start getting into political office, quite frankly, it was because of organizing, and it was a map of organizing street by street, block by block, town by town.
Starting point is 00:35:58 But let me say this, I think that it's not just a matter of organizing the votes. We really got to think about we are in a different environment. Whether people want to acknowledge it or not, we're in fascism. Right, the rules, all the rules that we knew are all the rules, all of those things we're seeing every single day. You know, we're hearing the president talk about he doesn't like mail-in ballots. He's going to get rid of mail-in-botties. He technically doesn't even have the ability to be able to do that. He doesn't have, but he's saying that because he's planting a seed because what we're seeing is the letter of the law, they don't believe applies to them.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yep. And so what does that mean for us? If we're actually going to engage with folks that don't believe that they've got to follow the law or they're above the law, what that means is we've got to lean into our own power. Part of that is we have to organize our every bit of power. We've got to organize our resources. We've got to organize how we direct what it is that we focus on and organize and really tap into each other. As you were saying, information is valuable. And so people've got to get information, but we can't just stay there.
Starting point is 00:37:00 And we can't believe that we're just going to get, we're just going to vote ourselves out of there. As much as I am for voting, right, that in itself will not be enough. But we cannot leave that tool on the table because this next election cycle, like when people are not supporting our community, there has to be consequences. There has to be consequences. We got to get so sophisticated. Some people may not agree with this. We got to get so sophisticated that if folks turn all of these districts, and I know there's some Democrats going to get upset about me saying this, if they are, are turning these districts where it is
Starting point is 00:37:32 impossible for a Republican not to win, that we got to figure out how we're going to make sure that we're impacting that election. Even that primary. We've got to be sophisticated. We have no permanent friends. We have permanent interests, and that is the protection
Starting point is 00:37:48 of black people. So I think it's really important in this moment for us to really understand we've got to organize our resources very differently. We've got to put our money towards black institutions. If you are not contributing to this show, we're seeing what mainstream media is doing.
Starting point is 00:38:06 We're seeing what is going to be MSM now, MS now. We're seeing all of them capitulate and go to the right or center of the right. Yeah, I call it MSS more silly shit. All right, I want to go to my panel. I want to get them some questions in. Let me, do we have Julian? Julian, your audio finally working. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I'm here. Lord have mercy, finally. Don't ask your question. To Cliff and Latasha. Okay, well, Latasha and Cliff, thank you for your work. We really appreciate it. I want to know, Cliff, you talked about the precinct by precinct, really block-by-block approach. Why have we not embraced this earlier?
Starting point is 00:38:47 I remember, I mean, my political chops go way back. Jackson Delegate 84, but even before that. And we used to do that. What happened? Was it the Internet? why have we abandoned a strategy that we know works? Well, did you want, I think it's a, I think it's a couple of things. And let me say this first, Dr. Malbeau.
Starting point is 00:39:10 A lot of people don't know this about me, but my early academic background was actually in economics and business, and you're actually one of the reasons why that was so. And so, you know, I spent most of my organizing career combining, you know, basically political economy like the political analysis and economic analysis and so i just wanted to shout you out for that and thank you for that um you know i think there's a i think there's a bunch there's several reasons right i think that the the internet is in social media is part of it right where now we've got a lot of folks that feel like we can just you and to be clear it is a tool right but there's some people who have abandoned you know what we've been talking about the old school ways and
Starting point is 00:39:55 And not just abandoned it, but not just abandoned in the sense that they've moved on, but even abandoned in a way where, like, we look back at, like, traditional organizing, like, you know, like, that's ancient and that was backwards and that was primed, you know, like this negative connotation to some of the ways that we've always organized. So I certainly think that some of the technology is a part of that. I think that, you know, also some of it is that we've been told that it doesn't work. Like even right now, we're still being. being told that it doesn't work. Like, we're still being told that the things that we did
Starting point is 00:40:30 to make such changes and to get election results in places like Georgia in 2020 and so many other places that, oh, you know, that doesn't work. See, that's how come, that's how come 2024 happened. And Trump was able to win, right? Which is not the case. But a lot of times what happens is, you know, every time there's a loss or an apparent loss, you know, people want to try to get you to change the way that you've done stuff. And a lot of times they're trying to get you to change it either because they know that it's successful
Starting point is 00:41:02 and they want you to change course and to do some other stuff that won't be as strategic and as impactful. And then sometimes they want you to change because, and again, I think that this is what's happening now in terms of progressive circles and democratic circles because it's not their thing. And they'd rather that,
Starting point is 00:41:23 all the attention and all the resources be put in the stuff that they do. The advertising people want to tell you that doing door knocking and old school advertising doesn't work. And that's why all this fundraising needs to go into doing these ads, right, which weren't effective in the last cycle because they couldn't counter the advertising and disinformation that was coming from the other side, right? And so I think there's a lot of reasons. Some of it technology, some of it because different people have different motives.
Starting point is 00:41:50 and sometimes people just simply they don't want us to win and want us to doubt ourselves. Well, I'm going to put one thing on the table and I did a whole thing on this before a couple of months ago and I think it's still the case. And to Julianne's question,
Starting point is 00:42:09 I think the fundamental problem is we have gotten where we are today because there's been a group of black people who committed their lives, to changing our communities. And those black people, they're retiring and they're passing away. And the problem is, they're not being replaced.
Starting point is 00:42:31 You can, if anybody steps back and go, if you talk to anybody who's a baby boomer or Gen X, they probably can say, oh, miss so-and-so. We all know in different communities, likely a miss so-and-so, but also a Mr. So-and-so, who worked precincts, did elections, every single election. Well, guess what?
Starting point is 00:42:56 They now are 70, 75, 80, 85. They're tired. It meant something they retired, they moved on, again, or passed away. So the problem is, these are the people who went to city council meetings, who went to county commissioners meetings, who kept us informed. And the problem is those people have not been replaced, Latasha. and if we really look at Florida, North Carolina, and y'all know, y'all interface with those folks,
Starting point is 00:43:26 and you see them sisters and them brothers out there, and listen, they're in their 70s and 80s still trying to fight, and then you say, well, where's they back up? And that's part of the deal. So we literally, as black people, we actually have to replenish our black infrastructure because what I have said is we've had now, Two generations that's made a whole lot of withdrawals
Starting point is 00:43:53 from the Black Bank of Justice, they made many deposits. That's right. That's right. I do think it's a little more nuanced, though, while I absolutely agree with you, that where are the soldiers that are coming behind the generals to do this work? But I will also say that there have been some mechanisms in the last decade or so that has actually undermined black organizing black infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:44:15 You know, I can even go from the Obama campaign, and I know that may be controversial in some, but what we did not see that, there were always black political infrastructures in the South. You knew who the black machine was in Alabama. If you had done any black work, you knew who the machine was in Alabama. You knew who the machine was in Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:44:34 You knew the machine. A lot of the infrastructure, to Reverend Jesse Jackson's credit, a lot of, from 1984 and 1988 campaigns, there was a black infrastructure in turn of how. That was a, he had some, He had a big-ass coat. Yes. He had a big-a...
Starting point is 00:44:50 People don't understand the number of black city council members for the first time. County commissioners, sheriffs. I mean, black people were elected to office for the first time ever in 84 and 88. That's right. And so the approach was a black political machine.
Starting point is 00:45:07 We used black media. We used black consultants. We used black organizers. There was a political machine that actually operated in many ways. ways almost like an independent party in some instances, right? What we've actually seen is I can actually count to meetings that I was in over a decade
Starting point is 00:45:26 again. I remember meeting I was in with Melanie Campbell and some other leaders that literally we were saying that what you all are doing is undermining like this model of how we organized. We saw where there was this idea of going to technology. Like it didn't count that when you go organized, you got to organize using a particular kind of technology. we saw it when it came to voter registration.
Starting point is 00:45:49 The other thing that we got to take on, now we got to take our blame, but voter suppression has worked, that many of that, when you see, there are very, very few organizations that are trying to do mass-scale voter registration. You know why? Because it's costly, because nine times out of ten,
Starting point is 00:46:06 it is going to require a costly legal fight. That voter suppression has been killing us, it's been death by a thousand cuts. And so it has been a combination. That's why we're seeing. that's why we saw voter suppression efforts. Like it wasn't, even with the stripping pre-clearance, all of those things have had an accumulative effect
Starting point is 00:46:23 on our communities and dismantling what I call old school black political machines. So there's a replenish issue, but there's also an issue in terms of the infrastructure and philanthropy. My last point, part of the reason why we created black voters matter, we wanted to create a mechanism to get resources on the ground because what we had seen is that,
Starting point is 00:46:45 that a lot of the resources would go to candidate campaign and they would throw some dollars in the last three weeks of the campaign around the Negroes up, and that was all that you saw. What we decided is that if we're going to be in power, we needed to create some kind of mechanism to fund our politics. And as a result, we have actually contributed and invested over $52 million and grasswood. It might be 54. Is it 54 a 54 cliff? I don't know, 52 or 54.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Either way, 50 plus million dollars that we've actually written check, given directly to grassroots groups, hundreds of grassroots groups on the ground because even the fickleness of philanthropy of, oh, you may not be, you might be important this time or not this time. We're always important to us. So there is a cumulative effect
Starting point is 00:47:30 that ultimately what makes it clear that there's nobody that is going to look out for black interests like black people. And if that is the case, then we've got to think very differently how we utilize our resources and our money, our time, and our talent. A question from Matt.
Starting point is 00:47:47 So my question for you, Cliff, and Latasha is specifically with respect to health equity. I'm interested in how that looks, what that looks like in terms of the push in the We Fight Back campaign. And the reason I ask is because I think that's kind of an untapped policy point as it relates to all Americans, frankly. But our health care system and just the unsustainability of it, and I'd be interested in seeing what that looks like, particularly with the campaign. Yeah, thanks for that. You know, we have, even before the most recent attacks on health care and Medicaid, you know, for the past couple of years, we've been doing some work around Medicaid expansion, trying to get the remaining 10 states, most of which are in the South,
Starting point is 00:48:29 to actually expand Medicaid. The most recent victory on that actually came from North Carolina, where our team and our partners there in North Carolina have been doing a lot of work to get Medicaid expanded there, to get Obamacare expanded. there. And so we had been doing that work already. We call it our sick and tired campaign. And we've got some of our bus tours and baby bus tours that will go around just doing a whole bunch of info sessions around the realities of health care, letting people know, like, how many people in their state could get it if it was expanded. You know, we've got movies and the
Starting point is 00:49:04 documentaries that we show sometimes, including one that I'm in, talk about my own personal story with battles around health and healthcare. It's called in due season. And we go around and we've done like many town halls. We'll show that and then have a conversation. And so we try to use a variety of tools again to have these conversations because we know that that's an important issue in our communities, obviously. But we also know that that's a conversation that then does what it drives some people who may not have been involved in the electoral process to get involved. And that's the way that we do all of our organizing, right? We don't focus on the election process. I mean, we do sometimes
Starting point is 00:49:45 when we're talking about voting rights and voter suppression, but we're not just going around telling people for clipboard, hey, have you registered, sign this, right? It's about, hey, tell me about what issue you care about, right? What is it that you are most concerned about, that you want to see for yourself, your family, your community, and now let's have a conversation about how we can make that a reality and how elections are a part of that, but it's not the only way, right? There's other forms of organizing that we do to get to the ends that we want, including around health care and Medicaid expansion. So that's the way that we do our work.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Obviously, now we're also focused on the big, ugly bill and the attacks that is bringing against our health care and everything else that's in that bill that's going to be attacked our food insecurity and everything else. But, yeah, we've always been concerned with and organizing around health care writ large and Medicaid expansion in particular. Michael. All right, Cliff and Latasha. So my question is...
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Starting point is 00:52:45 AXS.com. How do we connect political empowerment and like the work that you're doing? How do we connect that with leveraging our economics to enforce our political agenda and communicating that with people? For instance, the economic boycotts against Target, because of them going back on their DEI, cutting back on their DEI programs, things like this. And then also we've seen efforts in the past,
Starting point is 00:53:16 like in New York in 2017, divesting from pension funds that, divesting, using pension funds to divest from privatized prisons because they found out they were invested in privatized prisons. How do we connect all of that together? You know, all of it goes back, and I know we say it almost like a broken record, but it all goes back to organizing.
Starting point is 00:53:37 almost in all of our elements, even the work that we do, there's going to be an education component to it connected to the campaign. There's going to be an advocacy component to it, and there's going to be an organizing component to it, and that we're thinking about that. Even as we were doing work around voter suppression, there was an economic pressure point that we had with that. We then just based on, okay, we educated people around what was happening.
Starting point is 00:54:03 We organized our groups together to really think about strategy, And one of the strategies that we use, we actually targeted, even some of our county places, we targeted those elected officials who were supporting voter suppression that many of them were targeted even at the local county level where they had contracts with their county as the local attorney or some kind of vendor. Those contracts got canceled or pushed back by local folks. We saw a broad base where we did a huge campaign around companies who we felt like should have been standing with Georgia.
Starting point is 00:54:35 or they might have been like, what we got to do with it. It's like, you got everything to do it. If you get black money, you got something to do with it. And so I think it's a matter of trying to make sure that we're doing our pressure points. I'm saying that because I think it's important to your point around the economic, it can't come in a vacuum. This idea, we're just going to build enough wealthy folks and that's going to save us. How are that working out for us?
Starting point is 00:54:55 I've just, I've just been talking about the other day that five years post-slavery, there were over 2,000 schools that were started. There were 60 cities. I mean, on 60 hospitals, there were over 1,200 towns that were founded. In Texas alone, they called them freedom colonies. There were 500 freedom colonies, I mean, just in Texas alone. My point is that it is, I'm sorry, not 500, 57, 57. My point is black people were thinking more in terms of self-determination, right,
Starting point is 00:55:29 possibly because we had to. But what we were doing is we were thinking as builders, that we've got to build the infrastructure to support ourselves. In this mechanism, we have to do all the things. Yes, we've got to push. That's why we support reparations with the work that we're doing, that there has to be a larger issue that is just not economic. You can't have a 200, 400 head start.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Use our bodies as collateral and leverage to build wealth in this country. Use our label to exploit and build in this country. And then look at us and try to figure it and say, well, we don't understand why you're doing. No, we want our money. We want our money that we've invested. that we want our money, that we've earned, that what we put the value in this country,
Starting point is 00:56:07 we want that. And I think it is also important for us to think now, how are we connecting the tools in such a way that we can circulate more of the dollar in our communities? What are some new economic models we need to look at? Are we looking at core operatives? Are we looking at how do we build black businesses in a way that we're doing a distribution of resources
Starting point is 00:56:26 in a much different way that will work for our people opposed to what we're seeing on mainstream? So there's a combination of pieces that we use in terms of, one, figuring out how we educate and inform folks. Two, figure out how we organize us to be able to leverage our power. And then three, it has some real concrete alternatives that are not based on what we see right now. Well, you talked about money, and I've said to people, listen, don't get money to candidates, get that money to Black voters matter. We need to have money that goes directly on the ground, that we know that white media strategies are not going to be sucking up the money as well. is much better to use.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Last point of here, first of all, how y'all going to wear y'all Black Voters Matter Daeshiki and y'all ain't tell nobody? First of all, we didn't even coordinate this, so I'm actually surprised when Cliff got on, I was like, oh, okay, Cliff. I mean, y'all... We rocking black and proud these days.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Listen, we got, we're going to remind America reminding us and we remind in America who we are. Okay, so, I mean, this was just a night before last. Turn the audio up. I don't understand why y'all, this, come on, Audio. So my man, Latasha Brown, my man, Clip Albright. They knew different African tops I had. So they sent me this, this Dysheki black start. Matter of fact, I'm going to stand right in the front. So just, I'm, so they sent me, I know, no, just I got it. They sent me this, this, this black
Starting point is 00:57:53 Voters Matter, Daishiki. So y'all see what it looks like right here. This is what it looks like on the back, and so then they have, but you see right here they got BVM on the sleeves as well. So I'm not sure if they have it on their website. I think they do. So go to black voters matter
Starting point is 00:58:13 dot com if y'all all right. So people ask me, so they want one, where they get it? Well, this one is kind of special. I don't think they can order this one. Can they clear? I think we have one version of it on the website. Okay. That will take, but they could go to our
Starting point is 00:58:29 website black photos matter fun dot org in the menu somewhere on there it says shop and it's got you know our shirts and hoodies and I'm pretty sure that there's there's one of these dashikis on there if there's not you know shoot us a shoot us an email and we'll see if we could
Starting point is 00:58:45 get it added man man y'all better move some product we need to move some product don't yeah y'all better move some listen y'all better hold I'm checking right now let's see here shop is it on there uh oh
Starting point is 00:58:59 listen y'all we're going to have to talk what's up y'all shop button ain't working look right here look I'm clicking I click shop oh well we got to get that fit y'all got to get that
Starting point is 00:59:12 y'all come on now listen they ain't y'all about something to try out we're going to get it fixed I'll get it fixed tonight but before we go roller I got to say just a quick word if we still got a minute just I got to say a quick word about what's going on with D.C.
Starting point is 00:59:29 and what's going on. Yeah, I got 60 seconds because I got a guess waiting. Go ahead. Okay, 60 seconds. We all know, you know, Roland's been talking about what's been going on in D.C.
Starting point is 00:59:40 The invasion of D.C. We got a bunch of actions that we got on our website and on our social media. If you want to find out what's going on, two things. One, we got a Zoom webinar that we're doing tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:59:53 We're going to be talking about D.C. We're going to have some of the D.C. activists on there. We're going to talk about the calls, the action that we have. We're doing a call campaign to get Congress to end the occupation of D.C. We got another call campaign that we got in those six states that have sent National Guard. So we got folks in those states that are going to be making calls and organizing around that.
Starting point is 01:00:12 So to find out more, you can text Free D.C. Free D.C. to 25-225. Free D.C. to 25-2-25. And it will get you a link that you can get on to the Zoom webinar. and you can hear all that information and find out about those calls of action. We have got to be clear that what's going on in D.C. right now
Starting point is 01:00:34 is not just about D.C. It's coming to all of our city. We've got to stop it in D.C. right now. All right, then. I'm quite sure I'll be seeing y'all on the row in the fall. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Thank you, Rowling.
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Starting point is 01:01:26 who joins us to talk about his new book, White Fear, How the Browning of America is making white folks lose their minds. The book explains so much about what we're going through in this country right now. And how, as white people head toward becoming a racial minority, it's going to get, well, let's just say, even more interesting. We're going to see more violence. We're going to see more vitriol. because as each day passes,
Starting point is 01:01:59 it is a nail in that coffin. The one and only Roland Martin on the next black table right here on the Black Star Network. This week on the other side of change. 300,000 black women being pushed out of the workforce. This is shocking yet unsurprising. What happens when a bunch of black mothers
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Starting point is 01:03:52 Now that Roland Martin is willing to give me the blueprint, Hey, Saras, I need to go to Tyler Perry and get another blueprint because I need some green money. The only way I can do what I'm doing, I need to make sure money. So you'll see me working with Rowland. Matter of fact, it's the Roland and Cheryl Lundnery Show. Well, should it be the Sherlock Wishaw and a show show show? Well, whatever show is going to be.
Starting point is 01:04:18 It's going to be good. Well, the thug-in-chief continues his thuggish ways. Donald Trump is now threatening to take over Washington, D.C. Listen to this sheer stupidity. And I'm tired of listening to these people saying how safe it was before we got here. It was unsafe. It was horrible. And Mayor Bowser better get her axe straight.
Starting point is 01:04:47 She won't be mayor very long because we'll take it over with the federal government run it like it's supposed to be run. The numbers were horrible. It was a crime-infested rat hole, and they do have a lot of rats. We're getting rid of them, too. Y'all, he's a liar. He's a liar. He doesn't support as well.
Starting point is 01:05:06 And the folks said WJLA also did their own reporting about what's going on as well. And guess what? They're not arresting for folks for violent crime. Not doing that. It's actually a whole bunch of misdemeanors. That's what's actually going on. WJLA said that the White House, they said seven news obtained a copy of the breakdown
Starting point is 01:05:30 of each arrest outside of immigration and custom enforcement apprehensions which show that the majority of the arrests and interactions aren't for violent crimes. It noted every documented arrest during the takeover. The U.S. Marshal Service says it's responsible for the overall operations outside of immigration enforcement. There have been 379 arrests documented.
Starting point is 01:05:50 There were, according to this, Give me one second. Let me pull this up again. I had an error here. There were 379 arrest documented. More misdemeanors and traffic citations than violent
Starting point is 01:06:06 crime arrests. A total of 377 citations and quoted other arrests. Violent arrest, nine arrests are recorded which include homicide and sex crimes. He's a liar, Matt. He's a flat-out liar. And the
Starting point is 01:06:22 the media stood there and allowed him to lie. I mean, yeah, that's part and parcel of what we've seen them do with him. And, you know, the reality is the facts don't matter. The data doesn't matter. I mean, I saw Larry Krasner recently just up the road in Philly talking about how Philly is at like it's 50-year low, I think, in homicides this year. But what does Trump do? He comes out and says, you know, Philly and Oakland and all these cities are dangerous,
Starting point is 01:06:49 despite the data unequivocally showing that those places are safer than they have been because crime is down. And the reality is his base doesn't care about that. And for whatever reason, the media is not checking him on that. And that really is a huge problem, right? Because he can ideologically have whatever opinion he has, but he can't have the facts. And if the facts don't buttress what you're saying, then somebody should be calling you out saying, hey, you're saying that, but this is a 30-year low.
Starting point is 01:07:14 So it really cannot be what you're saying it is. and therefore the actions you're taking are not justified by the data, right, objectively. And that's what you're seeing here. And it's interesting because, you know, as a former prosecutor, I saw this same thing on a very local level with conservatives. You know what they do? They talk tough on crime all the time.
Starting point is 01:07:33 And then they would come sit in my office when Buffy got a little too drunk leaving the college and they would tell me about how she deserves a second chance, right? But the black kids across town, the mongrues across town are not supposed to get that opportunity. And that is at play in this very situation with Trump in D.C. Because even if the crime is down, it doesn't matter. You're not talking about the kids from Georgetown and George Washington and all the college kids.
Starting point is 01:07:57 What he's trying to do is say all of these people in D.C. are criminals. And it doesn't matter what the data actually says about how the crime is down. I'm going to continue running with this narrative because I want to do what it is I want to do, which is overtake D.C. And this is the subterfuge for that. You see that on the local level and you see that at play right now. in D.C. and his overtaking of the district. Michael's not just D.C.
Starting point is 01:08:20 This is what the liar-in-chief said about Chicago and New York. Listen. Chicago is a mess. You have an incompetent mayor, grossly incompetent, and we'll straighten that one out probably next. That'll be our next one after this. And it won't even be tough. And the people in Chicago, Mr. Vice President,
Starting point is 01:08:40 are screaming for us to come. They're wearing red hats, just like this one. But they're wearing red hats. African-American ladies, beautiful ladies, are saying, please, President Trump, come to Chicago, please. I did great with the black vote, as you know, and they want something to happen. So I think Chicago will be our next,
Starting point is 01:09:02 and then we'll help with New York, and we're going to help with... And I think really, I think a lot of... And a lot of these people that you see on television, they're including the people in this audience. They'll say bad things about me, and then they'll say, here because half of them got
Starting point is 01:09:18 mugged and they don't want to get mugged again but they're you know they work for a ladder they work for stupid people that are radical left and they're made to do things and say things that they don't want to be saying but the people right here are all happy because you and here's the deal J.D. Vance is standing there
Starting point is 01:09:34 working for a stupid person Michael pure and simple well J.D. Vance is stupid as well so what we have here once again is the authoritarian play but authoritarian always go after the most vulnerable groups of people
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Starting point is 01:12:33 But this is the model that he's trying to roll out across the country, okay? Now, it's going to be harder in other states like Illinois and California, things like this, because they actually have governors where Washington, D.C. does not. But this is why we have to fight this, okay? This is the playbook. And this is straight out of Project 2025, as Robert Bartillo said yesterday, I think it was yesterday on your show, where you talked about page of 55 for Project 2025. This is what they're laying out, and they're spewing racism to justify this authority.
Starting point is 01:13:08 authoritarian table. And Julian, here's the deal. First of all, it's some black woman who is, I think, a quasi-fitness person who's one of them, Trump and read something. I don't know what the hell. I don't listen to them at all. But here's the whole deal here, Julian. First and foremost, he just can't roll up in Chicago.
Starting point is 01:13:29 See, he just can't declare any emergency in Chicago. No, they know how to his works. And he'll get his ass soon and he's going to lose. And trust me, Chicago ain't going to respond the same way you see it in D.C. Okay, so we see what this fool is doing. But you notice there are eight out of the top ten homicide states, there are eight of them are red.
Starting point is 01:13:55 He ain't talking about going to those states, is it? Well, you know, the irony of him sending the Mississippi sitting the National Guard here, it is a horrible irony. Yeah, especially when they broke, what they broke ass, what they broke ass. Well, they not only would they broke asses, but also with their crime-ridden asses. I mean, go to Jackson, Mississippi. He's afraid to do that. But let me get you in downtown D.C.
Starting point is 01:14:23 And in the past week, we have seen off 14th Street where, you know, it's a young people central. This guy who runs a restaurant, kind of clubby place, said last Saturday night, he said, said they had about 30% of the people they usually have, two couples on the dance floor. I was walking up 14th Street, and anyway, I saw these two young brothers, very attractive young brothers, they were so clean cut. And this person stopped them, asked them for ID. One of the young brothers said, my daddy is a lawyer, I don't have to give you nothing. The woman, it was a black woman, National Guard, and she started clowning them. I just walked over, I said, young men, do me a favor.
Starting point is 01:15:05 And this, you know, they were well-bred. They said, yes, ma'am. I said, keep walking. I said, just keep walking. You don't have to deal with her. And she told me, well, can you give me your ID? I bust out. I'm like, fool, have you lost what a little piece of mind you used to have?
Starting point is 01:15:20 What are you doing here? You can't arrest anybody. It's harassing people. Well, up and down 14th Street, they're going restaurant to restaurant rolling, up up in a Shepard Park, restaurant to restaurant. And Adams Morgan, asking people if any of their employees are undocumented. This is we I live in a police state. We live in a police state. And the fact that the ban is selling wolf tickets that he cannot cash. He cannot get any governor of a blue state. Kathy Hatchell, Pritzker, these people are not going to call their national guard out for this nonsense. Plus crime in D.C. is down. But what he's doing is imposing a climate of fear, a climate of intimidation. So that some of our, it's not even undocumented people. Some people, some people, some people, who are documented, but also Latino, are afraid to get on certain days.
Starting point is 01:16:11 They've been standing outside churches and schools. It is total intimidation. We in the African-American community, we have to stand up against it. I mean, we're standing up. You have the best in terms of voting on just a bit ago Latasha and Cliff. But we have to, you know, what's the James Bond said. Somebody else said it. They come for me in the morning, they come for you tonight.
Starting point is 01:16:33 And guess what? I'm trying to figure out people is going to happen to us. I'm trying to figure out where all these FBI Negroes? We're all these foundational black Americans. They were tweeting me all the time, and they were like, oh, yeah, this ain't going to impact us. They ain't coming for us. Where all the FBI, what are FBI, what are the FBI B-1-A-Dos, folks? Boy, it's amazing how quiet they are on my time.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Come on, come on. It's amazing how quiet they are on my timeline. All right, let me go to a break. We're going to come back. We're going to deal with this state representative who is getting, the people are coming after him for saying he did something he didn't do. We're going to talk to him next.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Also, we're going to show y'all how Trump is a liar. They are criticizing the Smithsonian's Latino Museum but saying that the Texas Revolution was about slavery. It was. but they're idiots in the White House. You're watching Rolla Mark and I'm Filth on the Black Star Network. On the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's wealth coach, Black Americans have one-tenth of wealth of their white counterparts.
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Starting point is 01:18:32 filter deep into it, like pasteurized milk. Without the 2%, we're getting deep. You want to turn that shit off? We're doing the interview, motherfucker. Black Connecticut state lawmaker Corey Paris has received hate-filled threats after being falsely accused of doxying sensitive information about U.S. immigration
Starting point is 01:19:19 and custom enforcement agents. According to Paris, the controversy began when he posted a message on Instagram informing his followers that he had learned of immigration enforcement efforts in his district and wanted to warn residents to, quote, vigilant. Shortly after that, this far-right activist Shia Rachik, known as Lives of TikTok, they've been targeting lots of people, tagged ICE's official account and urged the agency to, quote,
Starting point is 01:19:44 charge him. The following day, ICE officials reshared the post and tagged the Department of Justice's account. Corparen joins us right now. Glad to have you here representative parents. So they claim, and see, lives of TikTok is known to lie. They're known to lie. Okay. Okay. So they claim you posted sensitive information as if you posted somebody's name, home address, who their husband and wife is and where their kids go to school. That's right. And Roland, thank you for having me. And as my grandmother often said growing up, there's a dead cat on the line and the son of a biscuit is stinking. And that's exactly what's happening right now. So all you said was stay vigilant. That was the post. That's right. And I want to be unequivocally clear that what I shared was no different than many of my colleagues in elected office, but they share every single day and what they shared during this time as ICE was coming into many of our communities. And it was simply public information from government channels. It was not done to harm ICE. It was done to convey urgency to families who live in fear of this agency and of this administration so that they can make decisions to protect themselves. And that is part of what it means to be a representative. That's what I was elected to do. I do it for those who vote. voted for me, for those who didn't vote for me, for those who can't vote for me yet,
Starting point is 01:21:02 ensuring that people have the information they need, even when it's uncomfortable. And again, I mean, this is literal harassment, courtesy of lives of TikTok. And so what have you had to contend with and deal with? It's been a rough couple of days, for sure. We certainly have been shaken, but we're not moved. So I have received nasty phone calls and threatening phone calls from folks who have claimed to be former government agents who have claimed that they know where my family lives. They have also mentioned the states in which they've lived, that they were coming for me. They've
Starting point is 01:21:38 shared racial epithets in their calls. I've had people say that they want to execute me, that I should be hung and lynched. It goes on and on. And so this has started a whole new thing because the many people who have reached out have said that this has now been shared over two million times, viewed over two million times by people all across this country, reshared in many Trump, pro-Trump signals and pro-Trump outlets, the same with pro-conservative outlets. They wrote about it for many days, and the harassment and the threats just continue to come. And it's unacceptable, especially what's more unacceptable is that the Department of Homeland
Starting point is 01:22:19 Security and Department of Justice have actually pretty much not doubled down from what they've said at the time. They acknowledge that they regularly amplify posts from groups outside of government, including groups like lives of TikTok, which re-shared mine. And the Department of Justice has said through the New York Times that they will not tolerate actions that disclose the location of law enforcement, which again is not what I did. And so, and again, the problem that we have now is the thug-in-chief has thug agencies that are doing his dirty work. and they don't care about due process at all, or facts. That's right.
Starting point is 01:22:57 You're absolutely right. And look, this moment is for everyone because people should remember, whether you black, brown, white, Asian, whatever you are, you have to remember that the Constitution guarantees us something. The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments say that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, and property without due process of law. That language is deliberate. It says no citizen.
Starting point is 01:23:20 I'm sorry, excuse me. It does not say no citizen. and it says no person. So due process for us means fair treatment. It means notice. It means a chance to defend yourself in protections against fundamental rights being stripped away without a compelling reason. And our courts up to now have made it very clear that those protections will and have applied to everyone in U.S. jurisdiction, including non-citizens. And that's the principle which separates democracy from tyranny. Absolutely. And so what security precaution have you taken? Have you had to I mean, get folks outside of where you live, where you work.
Starting point is 01:23:56 I mean, so how are you protecting yourself? You know, I don't want to go into too much detail about that, but I will tell you that protection is a top priority for me and certainly my family, but I'll also say it should be a top priority for every elected official in this country. If you're just simply doing your job, what you were elected to do, for which you've taken an oath to do, it is nearly unconscionable for us to believe that if you are threatened that you don't have access to protection,
Starting point is 01:24:23 or security for yourself and for your family. And that is just a, that's not a far cry from what we've just seen happen in Minnesota a couple of weeks ago. And what we might see in the future. Again, it's Corey Paris today. It was the Speaker of the House of Minnesota a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:24:38 It could be any person tomorrow. And that's why it's so important to raise the alarm on what's happening right now in this country. Absolutely. We're ever sitting in Paris. Take care of yourself. I appreciate you coming on the show.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Thanks a lot. Thank you so much. All right, folks. Got to go to the break. We come back. How stupid is Donald Trump in the White House? Now they're making up their own history regarding the Texas Revolution
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Starting point is 01:26:09 That's all this week on a balanced life with Dr. Jackie here on Black Star Network. Next on the Black Table with me, Greg Carr. We welcome the Black Star Network's very own Roland Martin, who joins us to talk about his new book, White Fear, How the Browning of America is making white folks lose their minds. The book explains so much about what we're going through in this country right now, and how, as white people head toward becoming a racial minority, it's going to get, well, let's just say, even more interesting. We are going to see more violence. We're going to see more vitriol because as each day passes, it is a nail in that coffin.
Starting point is 01:27:02 The one and only Roland Martin on the next black table right here on the Black Star Network. This week on the other side of change. 300,000 black women being pushed out of the workforce. This is shocking yet unsurprising. What happens when a bunch of black mothers lose their federal job? Their kids are not being fed. their kids are not being taken care of. But that trickles down to the entire community structure,
Starting point is 01:27:26 which may be built on the backs of black mothers and black women more broad. Tune in on the other side of change, only on the Black Star Network. I'm Russell L. Honorary, Lieutenant General, United States Army retired, and you're watching Rolla Martin on Filthage. Folks, Department of Education, Trump's Department of Education says George Mason University in Virginia that violates civil rights laws by using race and other personal traits in hiring and promotions.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I'm Noah. I'm 13. And as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast. And I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would, like your cousin would if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions. Now you know with Noah DeBarroso is a show about influence. Who's got it, how they use it, and what it means for the rest of you. It's not the news. It's what the news should be if someone Gen Z or Gen Alpha made it. And I'm watching everything. The majority of the youth, 18 through 24, say they trust Republicans more than Democrats
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Starting point is 01:30:03 Tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today. AXS.com. Investigation determined GMU gave preference to candidates from underrepresented groups, policies that, according to the Department, unlawfully discriminated based on race. university has 10 days to accept a resolution agreement if approved GMU will be required to stop all race-based hiring issue an apology revises recruitment policies and provide annual civil rights training. Now this is the same university that the Trump folks want the black president to resign. They've been putting pressure on him to do so and it's the latest attack again on black people. See, I keep trying to tell y'all what's going on. See, I ain't making this stuff up. They are attacking everybody black. They're attacking a black woman.
Starting point is 01:30:49 on the Federal Reserve, they're attacking him. They attack, this is what they do. They are constantly attacking New York State Attorney General, Letitia James. He's attacking D.C. Mayor of Muriel Bowser, and so this is an absolutely anti-black, white nationalist, white supremacist administration, period. Not even a conversation. Now, you know they're real mad about this one. Kilmore Brago-Garcia, you know, the man all back and forth, who would sit El Salvador,
Starting point is 01:31:17 then came back, then they indicted him claiming he was human trafficking in Tennessee. Then a federal judge told him, that's the bullshit, let him out of prison. But guess what? He was released from federal custody months after he was wrongfully deported to a prison in El Salvador. Plus, falsely accused of being a gang member. And they still running around saying he's a gang member. U.S. magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes, one of the middle district of Tennessee, ordered this release from a jail near Nashville.
Starting point is 01:31:43 He's now en route to reunite with his family in Maryland. He has 48 hours to arrive at his brother. home in suburban Maryland, where he's permitted to live under a set court-imposed conditions. He's also required to check in with immigration officials at the ICE, Baltimore, field office. Now, you know that is absolutely driving them crazy, Michael, because they try to make him the poster child, and we see the game that they're playing. This is, this, there's nothing these people say that I trust. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:32:12 If Donald Trump says, wow, it's a gorgeous day, blue skies, I'm a little. look up and double and triple check because they are liars. Well, yeah, they're liars, and this is pure evil. And this is an authoritarian power grab. So this is good news here for Kilmar Obrigo Garcia. We'll see how all this plays out. But, you know, all of this is connected. And, you know, I've said before on this show, Roland, that, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:46 white supremacy and racism, it targets all black people, regardless of a place of origin, the language you speak, or your religion. And also, it targets non-white people. So just thinking because they're going after Latinos, they're not coming after black people also. No, they're attacking all of us at the same time. So we really have to wake up and look at what's going on because some of us think that because of our proximity to white supremacy, it protects us from white supremacy. No, it doesn't. They're coming for all of us. So when you go to the story about Texas and slavery, then I'll comment on that hopefully as well. Matt? Well, you know, I think the last part of what Michael said is what stood out to me most prominently,
Starting point is 01:33:35 which is, you know, there is a myth that your proximity to whiteness or power, really power structures somehow insulates you from, you know, being on the chopping block. And what you see is that the opposite is true. This woman, Ms. Cook, who's the first black woman ever on the Federal Reserve, I mean, you have to be imminently qualified to be on the Federal Reserve Board. You know that, right? But what you do is when you want to attack black people, you make any conversation about a black person who doesn't fit your ideological stance, one of meritocracy, always, right? Like this brother, Dr. Washington at George Mason, is eminently qualified. I was reading in his background. He's got three degrees in mechanical engineering, right? Former dean and mechanical
Starting point is 01:34:21 engineering at Ohio State. I mean, this brother is eminently qualified. But the moment you see a black person in power, I mean, if you have a fundamental belief that black people should not be in power, then you automatically equate that with them not having the merit to be where they are. And that is what is so problematic about this administration is because there are not any value judgments of people based on what they're actually doing. It's purely based on how they look and your fundamental belief that they should not be where they are. And, you know, I think Michael's right. I think not only are they coming for our Latino brothers and sisters, they're coming for us and they're not hiding that fact. And it does not matter what kind of education you have, what kind of bona fides you've had in your career.
Starting point is 01:35:02 if you are black, you do not deserve to be there, period, in their eyes. And you were, therefore, always be a target of attack. Right, because for them, at the end of the day, Julian, they only think white people, especially white men are qualified. I mean, hell, they, these, do you know how, Julia, do you know how dumbass these people are? These people are mad. They mad at Cracker Barrel. they literally
Starting point is 01:35:31 I don't understand why somebody somebody I saw a post somebody said the cracker's mad at Cracker Barrel I cracked them laughing but they literally are mad that Cracker Barrel changed their logo and said Cracker Barrel went woke Like what the hell I mean these truly are some of the dumb
Starting point is 01:35:53 And then Byron they're still Cracker Barrel And then Byrd Donald's dumb ass talking by a little how he got oh my goodness he upset because he got saved he got saved he declared Jesus is Lord and Christ Savior in a cracker barrow in a parking lot
Starting point is 01:36:10 really Roland please I'm serious they're crazy they're mad at Cracker Barrow They're mad They're mad They're all right Julian they're so mad They mad at Cracker Barrow
Starting point is 01:36:27 so now when you walk in the cracker barrel you ain't walking to no damn country-ass store you're walking to the restaurant they mad all that country shit man I'm like well y'all y'all some iggin'ass people causing their stock price to go down
Starting point is 01:36:43 these people are insane go ahead they have allowed their racism they have allowed their racism to drive them insane I mean the examples you're given the one that I want to just pick up on because Dr. Lisa a cook, a fellow black woman economist, impeccable credentials, you know, this man that has
Starting point is 01:37:04 and civil civility goes out the window. He doesn't know how to say anything that makes sense. He reduces himself, but he's already reduced to calling people out of their name, calling them a immigrant. You know, he did that with Kamlai. He had all these names for her. He has these names for people. But Dr. Cook is doing a good job. The only problem he has. has with Dr. Lisa Cook is that if she resign, he has a vacancy on the Fed and he can basically change the tone and tenor of what happens with interest rates. The members of the Fed, the seven members of the Fed essentially choose the heads of the regional, the 12 regional fed members. And five of those actually have input into interest rates. So he's basically going to take over
Starting point is 01:37:53 the economy. But you know, when he was elected, he said he was going to manage the economy. How's that turning out for us? Frankly, the tariffs are going to increase and flow to you. I already see people talking about that. The unemployment is steady but steady but drifting downward, and all the American women lost their jobs. In fact, African-American women is the only group that had their labor force participation rate drop.
Starting point is 01:38:18 The only group had a significant drop in labor force participation. Now, some of the other groups might have 1.2, but basically we have a 10% 1% which by 10% drop labor force participation. They have allowed their racism to drive them nuts and we see it every day. I don't even know why they let this man go to a microphone and by the way, you know, you don't have to be white
Starting point is 01:38:44 adjacent as some black people think they are. You can be playing on white like John Bolton. Listen, I... Your house will be rated. For the life of me, I don't... We really are moving. into a crazy oligarchy where you said the man was stupid
Starting point is 01:38:59 on CNN and the next thing you'll know your house is raided, your office is rated. You're not even there. Your wife who... Listen, listen. Listen, we know what any of these people are... Y'all, this is... I got to stay on the Cracker Barrel thing.
Starting point is 01:39:12 Y'all, this is what Byron Donald tweeted. In college, I worked at Cracker Barrel in Tallahassee. I even gave my life to Christ in their parking lot. Their logo was iconic in their unique restaurants were a fixture of American culture. No one asked for this woke rebrand. It's time to make Cracker Barrel great again.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Oh, my God. Y'all, this is literally the logo. Y'all, this is the old-ass Cracker Barrel logo of an old white man leaning against the barrel in a chair and it says Old Country Store. These, this is what they mad at. y'all I'm like
Starting point is 01:39:54 y'all y'all ain't got that much time in your hands now y'all know as a matter of fact the AI people are so quick look at this here oh it gets better
Starting point is 01:40:12 it gets better because you know you know somebody had to go ahead and um just Just turn the audio up. They dropped this using AI. I was serving up the biscuits, gravy on the side. Waping down tables just trying to survive.
Starting point is 01:40:36 When the preacher came in, ordered chicken fry, he left me a pamphlet, said, son, don't you hide? I clocked out early, had something to think. Took my sweet tea outside. I've leaned on the sink I found God in a cracker barrel parking lot by the dumpsters and the smell of taker tops He said, son, you've been lost
Starting point is 01:41:02 But you're not forgot I found God in a cracker barrel parking lot The young lights flickered on that old country store I mean, Matt, these people are ignorant, man I'm like, they, they, they are, these, these in there mag of fools are just mad upset. But here's what somebody said. Here's the real deal. They're mad because Cracker Barrel has a female, a white female CEO.
Starting point is 01:41:36 And for them, they just put, now they've got the Cracker Barrel logo underwoke. Well, first off, I got to say, shout out. to add Ace Vane on Instagram. I actually just texted it to you, Roland. He did a thing with the Cracker Barrel logo that's one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time, so you've got to see that. But I mean, I think you're right. And that's the interesting thing you bring up, because when we talk about DEI, how many times have you said on this show, who is the biggest recipient of DEI policies? It's white women. It is not black people. So the idea that people are angry about this is really an extension of what you've seen them be angry about other things
Starting point is 01:42:15 and this loss of Americana and really this loss of whiteness. I give you an example. There's the local sheriff in the county I live in all the time. Always says, we want to return our community to safety. We want to go back to Mayberry.
Starting point is 01:42:29 And every time he says that, I'm like, does he not realize that there were no black people in Mayberry? You are telling me how you feel about us without saying it. And that's what we're seeing. That's what this is. People are mad about anything
Starting point is 01:42:40 that they think is woke or woke adjacent. And this is the most asinine thing to be mad about. If you like Cracker Barrow's food, go eat their food, but who cares about the logo? This is more an extension of they think their America is being taken, and that's what we're seeing. It's all white supremacy, white nationalism, and they're just telling them themselves, Michael. Well, absolutely, you know, to say ignorant, what did you say, ignorant MAGA foods, that's redundant, okay, because that's a redundant statement right there. But, yeah, Maga is ignorant.
Starting point is 01:43:16 It's a cult, okay? And when you listen to these people, they don't make any sense, but it's like they live in an alternate universe, okay? And, you know, white supremacy is a powerful drug. And what it does is it causes them to vote for people who are really against their own interest. When we talk about rural America, they're going to be devastated by the big, big, ass, ugly bill.
Starting point is 01:43:47 No, no, no, Michael, no, Michael. That stuff means nothing. They're going to be devastated because the cracker barrel logo is changed. Well, look, they like, what? See, they walk around like, damn it, what happened to my cracker? Where did my cracker go? Why did my cracker in the chair in the barrel? Why they left?
Starting point is 01:44:13 I've been rolling. It's like, look, look, people, look people. It's the, it's the same fool. It's the same food. It's the same food. Okay, so, but. No, no, Michael, it ain't the same. Michael, they got rid of my cracker.
Starting point is 01:44:28 Okay. They got rid of my cracker. And so go ahead, finish your point. Yeah. Well, these are the type of cultural wars that they get distracted with while their health care is being cut. while their hospitals are being shut down, while the cost of their food
Starting point is 01:44:47 that they already can't afford is going up, they get distracted with these culture wars, and this is how... This ain't even a culture war. It's a fucking cracker barrel logo. No, but it's part of the white supremacist... Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:45:05 They took the white... They took the white man leaning on... They took the white man leaning on a barrel. ain't like they put a black woman in some cowboy boots but but the erasure of white the white man in their mind is the white replacement theory
Starting point is 01:45:25 okay the Roland these are some crazy hey I already know that dog hold up so Matt so talk about they went woke that's an attack on DEI so all that kicks in white supremacist I don't I know and they all crack heads Matt sent me Ace Vane
Starting point is 01:45:44 What y'all so now the cracker So here we go let me set it up The Cracker Barrel logo speaks Hello I'm the Cracker from Cracker Barrel And y'all know I've set on that damn logo For 48 damn years Longer than a snake deep throat in the giraffe neck
Starting point is 01:46:06 Then overnight You got this diverse evil ignorant or DEI group of people taking over our marketing talking about we need a rebrand then poof I'm going faster than a black man driving through Alabama
Starting point is 01:46:20 how you're going to rebrand without de-brand on the goddamn reason people come to Cracker Barrel How are you going to have a place called Cracker Barrel without a cracker leaning on a barrel I mean what's next America
Starting point is 01:46:33 a black female Pipey's manager that doesn't fight her customers Cracker Barrel needs a cracker and the barrel. And I'm the coldest cracker some of a bitch to ever lean on a barrel this side of a Mississippi.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Hell, maybe both sides. But don't you go worry about your old boy, Cracker? I got a little nest egg, and I'll find something to lean on I always have. But it's a damn shame what y'all doesn't let it happen to old barrel. Who the hell out here from the hiring me, bro? Nobody. Nobody hiring barrels.
Starting point is 01:47:05 I might as well just jump in the fucking fireplace, bro. Oh, man. When this happened, Nickers dying there ain't there one night before. Jesus, why? Ain't nobody tell us dumb as to die. Oh, Ace Bain. That, matter of fact, hold up. I didn't realize.
Starting point is 01:47:37 I had never heard of Ace Bain. and I just pulled it and I realized he followed me he follows me Ace Bain and earn himself a follow I'm not following him that was funny as hell Matt yeah I died yesterday
Starting point is 01:47:53 when I saw it I didn't even know I knew nothing about it and then I saw the video and I just lost it but I love all his stuff he's hilarious and I just thought that was a funny take and Jermaine to what we're talking about now that is absolutely I'm telling you it is it is beyond
Starting point is 01:48:08 on hilarious. And these people are just beside. I mean, they are literally losing their mind, Julia. They are just they are mad as hell about crack a barrel changing a logo. You know, that is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Whoever the brother sent it out, right out into him, I mean, I'm sitting here almost falling off my chair because it was hilarious. But at the same time, it does illustrate, not only as I said, these people's racism has caused them to lose their minds, their home, But the other piece of it is the distraction of what Michael's hood.
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Starting point is 01:50:39 Get your tickets to J-A-X-S.com. Earlier, the distractionary tactics, so they're on Cracker Barrel, they ain't got no money. Excuse my Ebonics, but they ain't got no money, but they're worried about a logo, a cracker, and a barrel.
Starting point is 01:50:54 Just like this man is afraid that we'll learn something about his hygings with Jeffrey Epstein, so he's going after our museum. You know, they major in the minor because the major will convict them. They major in the minor. Look at this little, the Latino Museum.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Who and the, what president has ever had that kind of involvement in the weeds of a museum? I mean, we fought hard to get that museum. No, no, no, no, no, hold on. I'm going to hold up, y'all. See, y'all, y'all be, y'all got to stop trying to get ahead of stuff. I'm going to get to that in a second. But I need to try to stay focused on crackers and cracker, okay? I need y'all to stay focused on.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Somebody. You want to be focused on crackers. Somebody posted this tweet. I think that's hilarious. said white replacement theory Maga is pissed. They took the cracker out of Cracker Barrow. That's a funny thing. And again, they are mad because this is
Starting point is 01:51:47 the woman who's the CEO and because Cracker Bear supports LGBTQ, some of the Lions, woke CEO Cracker Barrel changed his logo after 407 years. Well, damn. Ain't that a shame? Hell, guess what? I guess they're going to get mad
Starting point is 01:52:04 because Snap will change their damn bottles. Oh, the Lord. What they hell we gonna do and my goodness like this ain't like coke changing to new coke this ain't even right it's a logo y'all they're some ignorant-ass people let me let me go i'm telling you i can't listen these they just ignit you know what marjor taylor green says we need our own country you know what oh this is all i endorsed that please ship all them dumb asses somewhere else or you know what They always talk about go back to Africa. Take y'all ass back to Europe, please.
Starting point is 01:52:42 Damn. Let me go to a break. We come back, y'all. I got to talk about these dumb-ass White House people who don't know nothing about history. They ain't read nothing, don't know nothing. They stuck on stupid. Wait till I show y'all what these fools actually posted
Starting point is 01:52:54 on the official White House website. If anybody out there, if y'all voted for this fool, y'all got to own this. and if you black, your ass ain't never get invited to the cookout. I don't care what you do. I don't care if you win a billion dollars and give it all the HBCUs.
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Starting point is 01:54:50 And you're watching Roland Martin. I'm thrilled to. After just two years, Howard University, looking for a new president, Ben Benson III, who joined August of 2023, is stepping down to the end of the month. His departure comes just days into the new academic year. The board appointed Wayne A.I. Frederick, the former Howard University president and graduate, to be the interim president. Now, of course, he retired in 2022.
Starting point is 01:55:38 Vince's last day will be August 31st with Frederick assuming the role the following day during his tenure. Howard continued to attract high-profile scholars. However, this summer, the university faced controversy when a new payment system error caused massive problems with students caused them to be mistakenly marked delinquent
Starting point is 01:55:55 on their tuition bills prompting threats of collections in response somehow with students organized protests and parents were pissed off as well because of all of the drama. Folks, speaking of the drama, we got to deal with these dumb asses in the White House. Now, Trump somehow thinks that he can run
Starting point is 01:56:14 the Kennedy Center. He thinks that he's the damn curator of the Smithsonian. Hell, he actually said this here, y'all, that he was the chief law enforcement officer of the country. Now, of course, one of my panelists mentioned John Bolton getting in his house, his home rated. Y'all, pull a clip up.
Starting point is 01:56:31 where Trump is standing before the people and he tried to say he ain't know about it but then again he says he the nation's top cop probably today sometime I don't want to tell Pam and I tell the group I don't want to know about it just you have to do what you have to do I don't want to know about it it's not necessary I could know about it I could be the one starting it I'm actually the chief law enforcement
Starting point is 01:56:55 officer but I feel that it's better this way That dumbass is the chief law enforcement officer. Pull a video back up and freeze it. Y'all see that stupid-ass hat he got on? Trump was right about everything. His dumbass is wrong about nearly every... Yo, this is what they got on the White House website. And they've been attacking the Smithsonian saying,
Starting point is 01:57:21 oh, they have these wrong exhibits. President Trump is right about the Smithsonian. So you go through this article, and it says the National Museum of African American History, history and culture debuted a series to educate people, quote, on a society that privileges white people in whiteness, defining so-called white-dominate culture as ways white people and the traditions, attitudes, and ways of life have been normalized over time in portraying the nuclear family, work ethic, and intellect as white qualities rooted in racism.
Starting point is 01:57:52 All true, and so then they're attacking, let me listen here, the campaign featured content from hardcore woke activist, Ibram X. Kennedy. Okay, so check this out. Okay, so they got other complaints, National Portrait Gallery. But this is the one that jumped. Look at this here. The National Museum of African Art display and exhibit
Starting point is 01:58:12 on works of speculative fiction that bring to life an immersive, feminist, and sacred aquatopia inspired by the legend of Drexia, an underwater kingdom populated by the children of pregnant women who have been thrown overboard or jumped into the ocean during the Middle Passage. I'm sorry, y'all. about the slavery thing again.
Starting point is 01:58:30 All right, so y'all check this out. So they criticize the American History Museum's LGBT-G-L-G-Q history exhibit. Then they criticize the National Museum of American Latino as well. But this is the one that I want to talk about. Y'all, it says the National Museum of the American Latino
Starting point is 01:58:49 characterizes the Texas Revolution as a massive defense of slavery waged by white Anglo-Saxon settlers against an anti-slavery Mexicans fighting for freedom, not a Texan War of Independence for Mexico, and frames the Mexican-American War as the North American invasion
Starting point is 01:59:11 that was unprovoked and motivated by pro-slavery politicians. That's true. Y'all, when we talk about his story and history, his story means white man's his story. See, I'm born and raised in Houston, and every student in Texas in the seventh grade is required to learn Texas history. Now, y'all understand, the book is about that thick. I'm not lying, by that thick. So, growing up, remember the al-O!
Starting point is 01:59:59 Remember the al-a-mo? It was always talked about. And Davy Crockett and the others, they were portrayed as these righteous men who were fighting those Mexican savages. And these righteous men were standing up on behalf of Texas. And then we had the great Sam Houston and the great Stephen F. Austin and Milam and all of these characters and how they were just these fine, upstanding men who wanted to free Texas from the shackles of the decrepit and the evil and the savage Mexicans.
Starting point is 02:00:44 except they left out a couple of things remember when I called out the history channel on that bullshit docu-series well they talked about Texas independence all they kept saying Texas independence fighting for Texas independence well see if you're going to say you're fighting for Texas
Starting point is 02:01:05 independence well you need to say you're fighting to be independent of what and the fact is the Texas Revolution was trying for the white Anglo-Saxons to steal Texas from Mexico the white Anglo-Saxons in Texas
Starting point is 02:01:29 Stephen F. Austin, Sam Houston, David Prockett and others, they wanted to be free from Mexico. Why? Because Mexico outlawed slavery. if you read. And we got the interview of the great historian Gerald Horn. His book on this very issue.
Starting point is 02:01:53 In his book, he talks about how people of African descent who were enslaved were literally escaping across the border. Thousands were escaping to Mexico because they were free. It got to the point where these white Anglo-Saxons were literally crossing state lines to capture them Mexico and drag them back. So it is a fundamental fact that the Texas Revolution,
Starting point is 02:02:22 the fight for Texas independence, was over slavery, period. That's what it was there. So what these white supremacists in the White House, they are not upset because the truth is actually been told. That's they mad about. They mad, and the truth is actually being told. Because, see, what they want is they want to continue this fictionalized version of Texas independence. Oh, my God, is Texas independence?
Starting point is 02:02:58 We can't, like, like, we can't actually, we can't actually tell people really what Texas independence is. actually about, because if we do that, then, oh, my God, people are going to actually know what they were fighting against. I did something on this, and I said this. You know, former Texas governor, Rick Abbott, I mean, Rick Perry, he decided to create a trophy, a trophy for the winner of the Texas Amos. University of South Carolina game and so he was trying to figure out we need a trophy let's get a trophy so what can we do if we'd create this trophy so he was like hey let's create the bottom trophy
Starting point is 02:04:00 oh my god it's the bottom trophy so if we create the bottom trophy then that'll be the thing that we can award to the winner. And so they decided to say, yeah, we need the bottom trophy. That's what we need. And so y'all, this, give me one second. So this here is a photo of the bottom trophy. And so this is the trophy that the winner
Starting point is 02:04:32 of the annual Texas A&M South Carolina game receives. Ooh, ooh, that's a great. Look at this here. We got this man, he's on a horse and he's holding a gun and oh my goodness and he's holding it up. Only problem is who's Bonham? Who's bottom? This is a sports illustrated story. And, huh, the Bonham Trophy is named and modeled after Alamo battle hero James Bonham.
Starting point is 02:05:20 It was commissioned in 2013 by former Texas Governor Rick Perry and Ben, South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley. So Nikki Haley and Rick Perry commissioned a Confederate statue because the Alamo was a battle with the Mexican Army, Santa Ana, because of slavery. Now y'all see what these white supremacists are trying to do. They are angry. Trump and Matt, they hate history because they believe in his story. And that is a fundamental problem.
Starting point is 02:06:03 And what they are going to try to do, Michael, is they are going to spend the next three and a half years desperately trying to rewrite history. We're going to see a farce of history next year when the United States celebrates its 250th anniversary. They're going to be promoting lies. I'm not calling them falsehoods or mischaracterizations. I'm calling them lies. And them attacking this premise right here shows you how much of a liar done on Trump and these idiots in his administration really are.
Starting point is 02:06:43 Yeah, absolutely, Roland. And this is, and just so people understand the... I'm Noah. I'm 13. And as you might have seen from the news, I got a podcast. And I explain those fake headlines like your uncle would. Like your cousin would if he actually did the research. Honestly, adults don't ask the right questions.
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Starting point is 02:08:55 Because remember in this first administration, he tacked the 1619 project. He created the 1776 project. He brought together those historians to create that. And he also signed that memo that banned critical. race theory in training for federal employees. That was September 2020. That's what really kicked off that anti-critical race theory movement. But what you're saying is spot on, and I read the piece from the independent that talks
Starting point is 02:09:23 about this. Trump advisor leading Smithsonian Review says DC Museums place over emphasis on slavery, and they talk about the Texas Revolution here in this piece, and they cite the Texas Historical Association. And they say the Texas Historical Association considers slavery, which formed a key part of the then Frontier Territory's early economy, quote, an underlying cause of the struggle, end quote, with Mexico, which was pushing to abolish slavery at the time. And in Mexico, actually, about slavery in 1829. So when they set up the, when they set up the Alamo, and they set up that settlement, they, the U.S. had slaves in violation of Mexican law. And they were fighting to preserve that.
Starting point is 02:10:09 Now, what was lost on a lot of people, because when I was a little kid, you know, I saw the movie, the Alamo with John Wayne, and, you know, they portrayed Davy Crockett and things like that, and Jim Bowie. They really don't talk about that in that movie, okay? No, they were fighting to preserve slavery. So this is the nonsense. This is the white supremacist, white nationalist, white Christian nationalism that they're pushing, and they attack history, okay? They're attacking history. at the same time attacking voting rights. Because if we can limit your understanding of the past
Starting point is 02:10:42 and restrict your ability to vote in the present, then we can control the laws and policies of the future. This is exactly what they're doing. This is why your show is so important to educate them to fight against this nonsense. Of course, Matt, what's hilarious here. is they're so angry at facts. They're so angry at historical representations.
Starting point is 02:11:14 And they want to lie. And again, Texas Independence. That's why every year when Greg Abbott and Dan Patrick is posting, Hey, Texas Independence Day, and then I then post, Hey, it's Happy, we love slavery day. because that's what because guess what when texas got when texas gain is independence guess who stayed slaves not the white people hello yeah and it it's deeper than that i mean obviously you and i are both native texans we both took that seventh grade history class i think your uh you know your text for
Starting point is 02:11:56 that class was on papyrus might not have been bound mine was in a book but that's just because we're you know different no actually actually actually Actually, mine was in the book, but yours probably had more pictures. Maybe so. Because my class, when I was in the seventh grade, we can actually read. But go right ahead. I don't know how long you picked it was to make a tablet with a hand. Yeah, go right ahead.
Starting point is 02:12:20 Nice try. Nice try. Go on, Mr. Pictorial. So I live about an hour from Goliath, right? And I grew up in Austin, named after Stephen F. Austin, down the road from San Antonio. I'll probably been to the Alamo 30 times, you know, on field trips and all that kind of stuff. And I think one of the things that people need to realize is in Texas, mythology is huge, right? So it's not only that this is not the true history, but a core tenet of Texas culture is lionizing these people and lying about what they did and the real motivations of what they did.
Starting point is 02:12:51 And one thing I wanted to add to Michael's point that people don't realize is Spain actually abolished slavery in Mexico, right? And then in 1829, like he said, Mexico abolished slavery, but it actually separated Cojula and Tejas, which was what became the state of Texas. And Stephen F. Austin and his compatriots thanked the Mexican government, Mexican president for carving out for Texas its ability to maintain slavery. So that shows you that slavery was a fundamental issue. And, you know, it's exactly right. And I think what's interesting about that is in Texas, it's not just about slavery where we're dismal. honest, I mean, people don't realize that the Texas Rangers massacred Hispanic people in the state of Texas, right? But we don't talk about that. I mean, I know many Texas Rangers, personally,
Starting point is 02:13:36 they are fine law enforcement officers, the ones I've all worked with, have been the cream of the crop. But the point is, that agency has a very sordid history, but we don't talk about that as Texans, because that does not fit the mythology that we want to have, which is, you know, the lone star state and the frontier spirit and all of that. And really, it was about slavery. think you're exactly right to call it out. It's so important to call it out, especially because what we're seeing is people try to make tantamount to their culture or their right to have, you know, some connection to their history. This idea that the actual history that's inimical to that is dishonest. When we know that the truth is slavery is the reason that they wanted
Starting point is 02:14:19 Texas independence and slavery is the reason Texas was the last bastion of the Confederacy because that's what they wanted. They wanted slavery. but that doesn't fit into our mythology here in the state of Texas, and that's why people overlook it. And, you know, it's back to the same conversation we were having earlier about the White House and the truth about crime stats. It isn't about the truth. It's about vibes. And the vibes come from telling white people that their country is being stolen. So you don't have the real conversations about what this country was then and now and what has made it what it is now, i.e. slavery and the attempt to keep it here in the state of Texas. You know, Roland, tomorrow, Congressman Al Green, your Texas brother, is holding a celebration of national enslavement.
Starting point is 02:15:08 He called Slavery Remembrance Day. He introduced legislation, and in 2022, President Biden actually recognized the day. Of course, the legislation has never passed, and it won't pass now, given the current White House. I'll be speaking tomorrow, and I will begin with the event is being held at the U.S. Capitol. The beginning of my talk is that we know U.S. capital were enslaved people. Not only would there be no capital, there will be no cotton, no rice, no bond market.
Starting point is 02:15:39 But see, this is to piggyback on what Brother Mann just said, it's an inconvenient truth for folks to acknowledge the foundational contribution that enslaved people have made to this country. They want to paint us as dependents, but actually we're philanthropists. We have given more to this country than we would ever get. And so from that perspective, we have to call the lies again and again and again. This country would be half a country because some Europeans would have come over from the other side, the western part of the country, or the Spanish would have come through California
Starting point is 02:16:15 and conquered. So were it not for enslavement, there would be no United States of America. And that's what makes the likes, like the man who lives in a house that enslaved people bit. That's what makes the likes of him squirm. That's what makes him become so petty to try to go through museums. I guess he doesn't have excuse by language, but shit else to do. He's supposed to be running the economy. He's supposed to be dealing with immigration.
Starting point is 02:16:41 But what he's actually doing is attacking black people, attacking the truth. They cannot stand the truth. When you confront them with the truth and topple those putrid statues, they start complaining, make America great again. I went on the White House.gov website. I couldn't get it all the way up. My identity and Jackie today. But I went on there when you mentioned that letter that he has up there, and it's how a welcome to greatness. What is the greatness?
Starting point is 02:17:11 When you have people roaming the streets under the guise of law, stopping people, you said you were going to fix it. economy. He has messed up the D.C. economy because, first of all, you've got the exodus of federal workers, not exodus, the firing of so many federal workers, and now you have ICE overrunning the place, and basically many of our restaurants, clubs, et cetera, are closing. If they're not closing, Saturday night, 14th Street, the young lady told me, she said her favorite place closed at 10 p.m. Usually it's open. Usually they beg to keep it open after 2 a.m. Close at 10 p.m. because nobody was there. This is what this man has done.
Starting point is 02:17:51 He's attempting to destroy America. If I didn't know any better, I would think that he was—well, he is Putin's best friend. But I would think that he came here, essentially, as a president, to destroy this country. Let me say one quick thing last. It's not just about him. This man has gone bankrupt. I don't know how many times. Who is behind him?
Starting point is 02:18:11 Who props him up? These are the oligarchs who don't want to necessarily make America white again, because if America were white again, they couldn't survive. So white women didn't even know how to feed their children to enslaved women showed them how to do it. No, no, no, no. They want to make America white-led again. See, they don't want, they don't want, and white men. Let's be real clear.
Starting point is 02:18:34 They don't want black people, Latinos, Asian-Americans, Native Americans, but they don't even want white women. It's real clear what their agenda is. It's real clear. And listen, national media shame on them for Peter Head Seth, retweeting his misogynistic pastor in video where that pastor said he didn't want women voting
Starting point is 02:18:56 and national media is all silent all y'all, that is it for us I appreciate y'all be on the show today let me thank Julianne let me thank Michael and Matt you can get back to your pictorial Texas history book all right I knew it was coming
Starting point is 02:19:12 oh hell yeah it was coming absolutely and and when Michael mentioned John Wayne in the movie the Alamo That was perfect casting because John Wayne was an absolute racist and whites of premises. An absolute racist who did not believe that black people were prepared to have jobs after the Civil Rights movement. Y'all, Google that shit. He was a racist. And that's why I'm always call his punk ass out.
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Starting point is 02:19:55 Let's hear it. So Kim has a new song called Rock with Me. And so y'all, y'all download his new song. So I always show him some love to the homie Kim. And so congratulations. He's now gone independent again. is, has his own I'm Noah, I'm
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