#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Black Voters Matter Relaunches ‘We Fight Back’; SCOTUS OKs $780M DEI Cuts; Rep. Corey Paris Threats
Episode Date: August 23, 20258.22.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Black Voters Matter Relaunches ‘We Fight Back’; SCOTUS OKs $780M DEI Cuts; Rep. Corey Paris ThreatsBlack Voters Matter is expanding its mission. Beyond p...rotecting Black voting rights, the organization is focusing on uplifting Black communities with the relaunch of its We Fight Back campaign. We'll speak with the co-founders about their renewed strategy.In a narrow 5–4 decision, the Supreme Court sides with the Trump administration's cutting over $780 million in federal research grants connected to diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives.Black Connecticut State Representative Corey Paris says he's received hate-filled threats after being falsely accused of "doxxing" sensitive information about ICE. He'll join us to share his side of the story.The U.S. Department of Education says George Mason University violated civil rights laws by factoring in race and other personal characteristics during hiring and promotion decisions.#BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbaseThis Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC. This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjs (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing.Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV.The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In the final four, decision, the Supreme Court has allowed Donald Trump and his cohorts to cut more than nearly $800 million in federal research grants associated,
with diversity, equity, and inclusion.
The ruling overturns a lower-course decision
and allows the National Institutes of Health
to withdraw existing funding.
Health and education leaders
warn this action will inflict long-lasting damage
on critical, scientific, and medical research.
Justice Katachi Brown-Jackson
issued a strong dissent while the majority claim
that distributing the grants would cause irreparable harm
to the government.
I don't know how that's going to be the case.
Now, for now, the court has blocked Trump's new anti-DI rules
for future funding,
but hundreds of millions of dollars for current projects are still at risk.
Now, here's the problem here.
This was money that Congress allocated, and this is how Republicans aren't doing their job.
They are ceding their legal authority to the executive branch.
And trust me, when the Democrat is sitting in the Oval Office,
you know they're going to be yelling and screaming about how, oh, my God, this is so unfair.
Folks, we're talking about cuts that deal with research, that deal with the inequities between
black and white people.
But when you have white nationalists and races now running the government, this is no shock.
Michael Imhotep is the host of the African History Network show out of Detroit, Matt Mannington
rights attorney under Corpus Christi, Dr. Julian Malbeau, economist, President Emerita Bennett
College, author of Surviving and Thriving and Thriving, 365 facts in Black Economic History.
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all right let's get right down to it um i'll start with you julian this is real simple
these thugs these races we see what we see how they are how they operate but again the real
problem here congress allocated the money and so trump is acting like oh i have the right to do
whatever I want, and these idiot Republicans are letting him.
And so this is why I say to the next Democrat in the White House, hopefully after
2028, return the favor.
All right, so we have issues with Julian's audio.
Y'all got to let me know this stuff, y'all.
Okay, let's go to Matt.
Matt, I want to take the question.
Please fix Julian's audio.
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Okay, guys, I can't hear Matt.
What are we doing?
Actually, I think that was my fault, Roland.
Can you hear me?
Okay, Matt, go ahead.
Yeah, that was my mistake, not your staff.
I apologize.
I was on mute.
But nonetheless, what I was saying is, I think you're right.
I think what's going to happen is when a Democrat is in the White House
and he or she tries to exercise this same authority,
they're going to say you don't have the power to do that.
You're usurping the power of Congress.
And what I still do not understand is why people in Congress en masse are continuing to capitulate
to this president and ceding their own power.
If Congress has the power of the purse, then, of course, the president has to be able to use
that some of those allotted monies in their administration of the executive branch.
However, they don't get to just by and large decide what Congress has appropriated is not
going to go where it's supposed to go because that's constitutional.
And the thing about this that's especially problematic is you're talking about
research grants. You're talking about what helps not only America move forward, what helps us
solve diseases, you know, or cure diseases and solve major societal problems. So taking
this money away under the guise of DEI hurts everybody, black and white, and people of all
colors. And it's stupid. It's just a matter of them flexing their authority. But what you see
the Supreme Court allowing this administration to continue to do is to try to grab more ground,
more ground and more ground. And the problem's going to be, it's not going to be able to be retracted,
no matter who's in the office, you know, in the next administration,
and you're going to have a problem where the balance of power is forever affected
by this administration's continued usurpation of power.
And listen, I keep saying this, Michael, if this is how Republicans want to roll,
Democrats should say, oh, let's be clear, we are going to return the favor.
Yeah, absolutely. Return the favor, take notes, understand what's going on,
understand that this is how dictatorships come into power.
This is taking away power from the legislative branch of government.
The power of the purse, Article 1, Section 9, Clause 7 of the U.S. Constitution, if I remember
correctly, the power to tax and spend belongs to Congress.
Donald Trump is continuing to test the boundaries of the executive branch's authority.
And he continues to get these wins in this 6-3 conservative Supreme Court that he helped set up with the help of the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society.
And for those that don't know, the Heritage Foundation are the ones that put out Project 2025.
So, yes, as we see in California, as we see Governor Gavin Newsom just signed in the law to be able to put on the ballot, the redistricting maps.
California is fighting back.
Democrats in California are fighting back against this authoritarian regime, and this, we're going
to have to fight all across the country.
We see Trump saying now, next he's going to possibly probably going to Chicago with at least
the National Guard, the crackdown on crime, et cetera.
Once again, testing the-
Hold on a second.
I'm going to get to that.
I want to stay on the money.
I want to stay on the money.
It's all connected, but go ahead.
I understand.
No, no, no, actually, it's not connected.
That's separate.
That's separate.
I'm going to deal with that later.
I got to stay on the money.
Because the whole point, here's the whole point here, and this is the problem, and Matt, you nailed it.
The problem is this here.
What they are essentially saying is, whatever bill Congress passes, we can then do whatever the hell we want to.
Now, previous presidents tried to do a line item veto.
The Supreme Court said that's not allowed.
Matt, this is a backdoor line item veto.
This is literally, I mean, again, what I don't understand,
is how can a Supreme Court act as if Congress doesn't matter?
The Constitution is clear.
Anything dealing with money begins in the House.
It begins in the House.
Congress appropriates.
Then it goes to the Senate.
And they're just sitting here going, hey, King Trump, go right ahead.
Yeah, look, appropriation and administration are not the same thing.
So Congress appropriates it, even if the White House can administer that money
through its executive policy, they're not the primogenitor of that money. The money doesn't come
from them. It comes from Congress. And the problem with that is, one, if you want to have any
semblance of the balance of power, this actually affects the Supreme Court down the line. You're
not seeing it yet. But Congress, one of the checks that Congress actually has on the federal
judiciary is the money it allots to the federal judiciary, right? So when the judges want raises
or if the federal judiciary across the board needs more money, that ultimately comes from Congress.
So what you see sometimes when the federal judiciary is making decisions that Congress doesn't like,
Congress can either pass legislation or they can decide to rescind some of that money that goes to the judiciary.
I say that to say when you are recognizing through court rulings that the executive can continue to grab more power,
that affects your bottom line because of down the road he or she doesn't like you and they want to say that the money Congress appropriated to you is not going to go to you, then it will not go to you.
And it seems to me to be a dangerous precedent to set rather than standing firm on the constitutional balance of power that is supposed to exist.
Well, again, they're just sitting here and like it's no big deal.
And I need people to understand this is a cult we're dealing with, and they're going to allow their cult leader to do whatever it is they want to do.
Now, we have a responsibility to do what we have to do.
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Folks, I've essentially said what is taking place right now is the
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This is a battle, y'all, that deals with everything that matters to us.
Unprecedented rollbacks and civil rights, access to health care, equity, environmental justice, you name it.
So folks that black voters matter.
They're expanding their mission beyond protecting the rights of black voters.
They now are focused on supporting black communities, relaunching We Fight Back campaign.
This was launched in 2024.
In 2024, the campaign aims to educate and empower black voters across the country.
BBM is not only fighting against a fascist regime and racist policies.
They're also building a campaign to reimagined democracy.
Joining us right now, the co-founders, Cliff Albright, Latasha Brown.
Glad to have you here y'all are on the show.
So I'll start with you, Latasha.
So walk us through what this means, okay, when you say, we fight back.
Exactly, what does this look like?
Is this a series of town halls?
Is it online engagement?
So exactly what is this?
It's a little of all of that.
I'll just say that setting the framework
that what we believe is we believe
that our greatest source of power and protection
in this moment is to actually have an informed community
that we're actually moving in one move,
that we're aligned around,
we're understanding what is happening,
understand the issues,
but that we're connected.
It has always been our collective power
and the leverage of our collective power
that's moved us forward.
And so for what that means,
for us is there a series of things that we do a lot of organizing with local communities.
We believe that this is the moment now for us to really solidify our power locally and in our
state that we know in terms of federally, like we see what's happening on the federal government
level. And so our best protection is to really gather ourselves and align with the power
that we have locally and on the state level. And as a result, what we do is we work with
partners all throughout those states. We provide funding. We're actually having meetings and
calls. We're doing
briefings around
what's happening from the
executive orders to what's happening to some of the
rollbacks. We're actually doing strategy
sessions where we're bringing our states
in the last month alone, in the last two
weeks alone, several of our states
and the partners, anywhere from 50 to 100
partners are actually meeting together,
thinking about how do they build a strategy.
Number one, to protect our community,
number two, to really be able to resist and
push back. In addition to
the bus tours that we're doing,
to actually inform folks.
We have campaigns that are happening.
Campaigns really around this attack on Medicaid
and how that's going to impact health access to our communities.
We're also doing, we know that that is really important
that criminal justice reform.
We're not ending that because what is happening now.
That's very important for us.
So we're continuing to do the work around warrant clinics
and expand that.
We're hundreds and thousands of debt.
We're working to eliminate hundreds of thousands of debts
for people in our communities
to make us less vulnerable to the people,
least less vulnerable to being in the system.
Those are some of the things, and I'll share Cliff
to maybe want to raise some other things as well that we're doing.
Cliff, I have long said that a year out,
first of all, y'all believe the same thing I believe.
There's no such thing as election season.
It's 365 or 7 days a week because there are elections happening
somewhere in the country all the time.
and the phrase that I keep using is
the need to let's say a year out
we know the midterms in 2026
but your primaries are going to be beginning
in the spring in a lot of these places
and we need to be operating right now
in what I call inform, educate, and enlighten
because we have to also recognize
it's a lot of folk that simply don't know
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In the Supreme Court case where they could wipe out half the Congressional Black Caucus,
and so I think for so long, Cliff, people kept assuming people knew.
And we can't assume people know what's actually happening.
That's right.
That's right.
You know, and we have to make it clear.
Because there's a lot, I mean, there's those of us that do this work every day.
And there's still pieces of it that we don't necessarily know about it all the time.
There's still ends and outs.
You know, even these battles that we're talking about redistricting, you know,
these are maps that were done, you know, going back after the 2020 census
that were done all throughout 2021.
And so there were all kinds of meetings and sessions and hearings around these maps
that a lot of people didn't know anything about.
And so part of what we try to do, and you talked about it, the 365 work, we do it all throughout the year.
And we do it every year.
It's not even just about 28 or about 26.
Even this year, we've been doing that work.
We've been having BBM days at the Capitol where we get together, community members and partner organizations and go to the Capitol.
And it is an educational process.
We're not looking for folks that are so-called experts on this, right?
We let everybody know that there's a role to play.
And if you don't know, then that's even better, right?
You know, we make people feel comfortable with the fact that they don't know.
Because sometimes we just assume, like you said, that people understand, not even understand this whole legislative process,
but even the basic voting process, we come across people all the time when we do our work, when we do our bus tours,
we'll come across somebody and we'll give them some information about early voting or absentee voting or even just about what office is on the ballot.
And we often will hear, you know what?
didn't know that. I've never known
that. Or they'll say, you know what, I didn't
know what this particular position
did, right? I didn't know what a state
delegate or a state
house member did, or I didn't know what my
county commissioner did. And so we got
to let folks know, you know, that it's not
a crime or something that we're going to shame you
about if you come to the table, you
come to the event, and you're not already an
expert. That's what this process is all
about. That's what a dialogue
is all about, right? And so,
yes, we've got to make people know,
that we want you, even if you don't know any of this, and that's okay, but we're going to work
through all of this together, and we've got to do it all throughout the year 365 because we
fight back. Our issues are not based on an election calendar. Our oppression has never been
based on an election calendar, so our resistance to it can't be based just on an election
calendar. Right. Absolutely. And, you know, Gary Chambers is doing some work down in Louisiana,
And I was meeting, I spoke in Ohio last month, Latasha, and it was so funny, I was sitting with a brother.
He was laying out, you know, this comprehensive strategy.
And I said to him, I said, too convoluted.
Too convoluted.
He was like, what do you mean?
I said, you had 30,000 feet.
And he's a professor.
I said, mm-mm, that's a lecture.
And we were, so we were at dinner, he was like, what do you mean?
What do you mean?
I kept saying, mm-mm, mm-mm.
I kept evoking
my man Joe Madison
so you got to put it
a way the dose can get it
and he was like, what do you mean?
What do you mean?
I said,
I said, give me your topics.
He gave me his topic.
I said, those are lectures.
I said, your sessions need to be
City Hall 101.
County government 101.
I said,
where you literally are walking people through
what city government does,
what county government does,
I said basic fundamentals
because I think the issue
that we saw
and all these people
who were saying
Biden Harris
haven't done this here
and the Democrats
haven't done this here
and you're like
well the Democrats in the House
passed the bill
but it's stalled in the Senate
you can't act like that didn't happen
and then when folks say
well stuff ain't happening
then you go well no
this happened and this happened
this happening in this state
and this happened in this state
it's amazing to me
when I talk to people
a lot of folk who got their degrees
and everything
they actually just
don't know how politics works.
You know,
Roman, I think you're absolutely right,
which is why our strategy
has always been threefold. I always talk about,
I think of it as a three-letter fold
table of what the work that we do.
One, it's been about money, movement, and message.
Money in the sense that we know that grassy groups,
there are people that know.
They're folks in our communities on the front lines
that are doing this day in a day out.
Matter of fact, part of our survival is because there's been grassroots groups,
because we have black media platforms like yours to get our message out for us to be able to connect.
Because we have black organizations that we can get information or that will respond to something that's happening,
that has been part of our survival and our ability to be able to progress.
And so we need to make sure that we're getting money to platforms such as yours, organizations like ours,
so that we're really black controlled and we're actually being able to have the freedom from the miss and disinformation.
The second thing I think is really important around movement building infrastructure, that if we're going to do this work, we've got to really come together as community.
It can't just be a one-off.
Part of what we saw oftentimes in the election cycles is that the parties will pick two or three issues, and then the issue is abortion.
And if we're not talking about abortion, then there's nothing else that's been talked about on that platform.
Many of folks in our communities, that's not the top of their list of what they're concerned about.
They're concerned about from medical access.
be concerned about some of the chronic illnesses that are happening in our community and seeing
the cuts or the closures of hospitals. And so it's really important that we're doing that work
as well. And then message, to your point, I think part of what we've seen is over the years,
we've actually seen this misinformation and disinformation that is documented that was targeted at black
voters. And so we have to really, in this moment, we've got to be real disciplined. We have to
listen to credible, trusted messengers, people who time to time again that you can actually
following along, they're getting, bringing us good information and really be able to discern what
information is not good or not information is not relevant or where the source is. The second thing
is I don't think it's going to be enough just to understand kind of the functions of government.
We need to understand, yes, the functions of government. That's baseline. But we also need to
understand. I always talk about this radical reimagining of what our North Star is. We've got to really
get clear as a community of what it is that we want so that we're not constantly responding
to those who don't want,
that we know that there are those
who don't want us to have anything.
And so I think it's real important
in this moment that we don't just see this
as a setback.
We've got to see this as a set-up.
We can't just go and ask that we just want
a bill or a policy pass.
At this point, we need to say
we want the whole thing.
If there's going to be a realignment,
let's get it right,
that even the Voting Rights Act in itself
was never enough.
That Dr. King and them didn't think
that that was the end.
They thought that that was actually a space,
and that was an additional
services of protection of our right to vote.
And so we've got to even ask for more
and go even go and organize ourselves
to ask for more.
One of the things that, Cliff, I was in Ohio
I was in Cincinnati last year.
And a brother who's an alpha,
I was in a restaurant, he was there
with his daughter, and he came up to me
and he greeted me, and he said
they were doing voter registration
the next day
at the Bengals game, and I said, why?
He goes, what do you mean?
I said, why?
I said, okay, I said, how much time are y'all going to spend out there?
So I said, you're going to spend the pregame.
You're going to be there about two, two and a half hours.
I said, how many people are going to come through there to register the vote?
I said, I'm not saying that's not necessary.
I said, but I said, I'm very curious.
I said, have y'all ever considered pulling the,
20 or 25 blackest precinct in Cincinnati.
He's like, what do you mean?
I said, well, you can actually go get the data
and see where the votes are.
Where African Americans are registered?
I said, then you can pull that
and you'll be able to see who voted in last election
and who didn't.
I said, so if you're talking about impacting elections,
I said, and you have finite people,
finite time, finite resources.
I said, have a more targeted
approach. He was so blown away by that. And then I had a, when I was in North Carolina,
our former general president, Everett, got a group brothers together. And I said the exact same
thing. I said, y'all are in North Carolina? I said, do y'all know how many black people
did not vote in Sherri Beasley's Supreme Court justice race? How many black people did not
vote in the last election? I said, this is how we have to target our time, energy,
and resources. And they were shocked because they were trying to take this macro approach. I
said, but really, if we want to move black numbers, it actually has to be a micro
approach, which is really person, door to door, street, street by street, block by block,
precinct neighborhood.
Yeah, you know, and so you're absolutely right.
You know, and what our approach is usually really to actually do a combination of those, right?
And I think what Tasha touched on it a little earlier when she was talking about the layering
of the approach, because we certainly need those things that are very micro, right, that
targeting okay who exactly is it that we know that we got to reach you know what's their
demographic you know where they go what do they listen to all that stuff right um but then we also
layer it with different levels of some of the wider stuff and so you know we have a disbelief
that if you get a couple of text messages from us a couple of phone calls you get a door knock
then you see that billboard while you on your way driving right to work and and and then you see
something on youtube because sometimes we do our YouTube ads you know that because you you did one
of our um um trumping trump a chick uh videos last year right and so so we believe that we can do the
combination of like the the wide visibility we call it the visibility work and then combine that
with like the real macro you know we want to touch you at your door on your phone that's when we
tend to get maximum input and what we found last year we targeted um 3.2 million black voters who had not
voted in 2020, right? And out of those
3.2, 50% of them turned out
in 2024, right? Now, some of y'all might say, well, 50%, that's not a
huge number, but mind you, this is 50, this is 3.2 million,
not folks that were new registered, right?
That they were unregistered in 2020, and then they got registered
by 24. These were folks who were registered in 20
who consciously decided, I'm not voting.
Y'all ain't moving me. And 50,
percent of those folks that we targeted, they turned out.
That's on top of, like, the other folks that we target, that, you know, they're kind
of regular.
They might even be super voters.
We got them to turn out, too.
But we know how to get those folks that, you know, for one election, we're like, y'all
not do enough for me.
I'm not going to turn out.
And then finding a way to communicate through that combination of the targeted, the micro
and the macro to get them to turn out.
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So you know, so you're absolutely right, though,
because there's a lot of folks that won't do.
Right.
That's micro that you're talking about.
And see, Latasha, the reason I say that to the brother, I said because I said,
y'all are operating as a chapter.
And so you talk about infrastructure, and I've said this to Alphus nationally.
I said, listen, we have undergrad chapters, grad chapters.
I said, but you have a local chapter.
Then you've got your combination of your chapters in the city.
Then you've got your state chapters.
Then you got your region.
And then you got national, international.
And so what I say to focus, I said, if you're local, if you're local, local,
stop trying to be in somebody else's city.
I said, be in your city and then take your city and then break your city down
by sections of the city, by neighborhoods, and then block street houses.
And the brother was like, damn, I'm taking that.
And so I had another chapter.
They hit me up and they said, dude, can you do a session?
And when I walked them through, they were like, damn, we ain't thought about that.
And that's why I think what we have to do, those of us in Black on media, what y'all do as well,
is literally walk people through because I think a lot of people with Tasha go, man, that's a whole lot.
It's like, no, no, no, no, I don't need you do a whole lot.
Can you knock on five doors?
Then they go, yeah, I'm not going to five doors.
I'm like, got it.
Now, you go get five other people.
And now the five of y'all, six of y'all, go knock on five doors each.
Now we've got 30 doors.
And they go, well, that's doable.
And so I think sometimes we just got to make this thing easy for people
and not make it complicated.
I agree.
I think there's a couple of things that you said, because I do want to note,
I think it's simple law of multiplication, right?
Literally, you organize, and let's be clear.
Or what our mom was and daddy said, baby, that's basic math.
That's basic math, right?
And, you know, the other piece around it, too,
is for us to really look at there's nothing new under the sun.
If you go back and you look at black machines, black political machines,
how you got the first black mayor of Atlanta, the first black mayor of Chicago.
When you start looking at how black people start getting into political office, quite frankly,
it was because of organizing, and it was a map of organizing street by street, block by block, town by town.
But let me say this, I think that it's not just a matter of organizing the votes.
We really got to think about we are in a different environment.
Whether people want to acknowledge it or not, we're in fascism.
Right, the rules, all the rules that we knew are all the rules, all of those things we're seeing every single day.
You know, we're hearing the president talk about he doesn't like mail-in ballots.
He's going to get rid of mail-in-botties.
He technically doesn't even have the ability to be able to do that.
He doesn't have, but he's saying that because he's planting a seed because what we're seeing is the letter of the law, they don't believe applies to them.
Yep.
And so what does that mean for us?
If we're actually going to engage with folks that don't believe that they've got to follow the law or they're above the law, what that means is we've got to lean into our own power.
Part of that is we have to organize our every bit of power.
We've got to organize our resources.
We've got to organize how we direct what it is that we focus on and organize and really tap into each other.
As you were saying, information is valuable.
And so people've got to get information, but we can't just stay there.
And we can't believe that we're just going to get, we're just going to vote ourselves out of there.
As much as I am for voting, right, that in itself will not be enough.
But we cannot leave that tool on the table because this next election cycle, like when people are not supporting our community, there has to be consequences.
There has to be consequences.
We got to get so sophisticated.
Some people may not agree with this.
We got to get so sophisticated that if folks turn all of these districts, and I know there's some Democrats going to get upset about me saying this, if they are,
are turning these districts where it is
impossible for a
Republican not to win, that we
got to figure out how we're going to make sure
that we're impacting that election.
Even that primary. We've got to
be sophisticated. We have no
permanent friends. We have
permanent interests, and that is the protection
of black people.
So I think it's really important in this moment
for us to really understand we've got to
organize our resources very differently.
We've got to put our
money towards black institutions.
If you are not contributing to this show,
we're seeing what mainstream media is doing.
We're seeing what is going to be MSM now, MS now.
We're seeing all of them capitulate and go to the right or center of the right.
Yeah, I call it MSS more silly shit.
All right, I want to go to my panel.
I want to get them some questions in.
Let me, do we have Julian?
Julian, your audio finally working.
I'm here.
I'm here.
Lord have mercy, finally.
Don't ask your question.
To Cliff and Latasha.
Okay, well, Latasha and Cliff, thank you for your work.
We really appreciate it.
I want to know, Cliff, you talked about the precinct by precinct, really block-by-block approach.
Why have we not embraced this earlier?
I remember, I mean, my political chops go way back.
Jackson Delegate 84, but even before that.
And we used to do that.
What happened?
Was it the Internet?
why have we abandoned a strategy that we know works?
Well, did you want, I think it's a, I think it's a couple of things.
And let me say this first, Dr. Malbeau.
A lot of people don't know this about me, but my early academic background was actually
in economics and business, and you're actually one of the reasons why that was so.
And so, you know, I spent most of my organizing career combining, you know, basically political
economy like the political analysis and economic analysis and so i just wanted to shout you out for that
and thank you for that um you know i think there's a i think there's a bunch there's several
reasons right i think that the the internet is in social media is part of it right where now we've
got a lot of folks that feel like we can just you and to be clear it is a tool right but there's
some people who have abandoned you know what we've been talking about the old school ways and
And not just abandoned it, but not just abandoned in the sense that they've moved on,
but even abandoned in a way where, like, we look back at, like, traditional organizing,
like, you know, like, that's ancient and that was backwards and that was primed, you know,
like this negative connotation to some of the ways that we've always organized.
So I certainly think that some of the technology is a part of that.
I think that, you know, also some of it is that we've been told that it doesn't work.
Like even right now, we're still being.
being told that it doesn't work. Like, we're still being told that the things that we did
to make such changes and to get election results in places like Georgia in 2020 and so many
other places that, oh, you know, that doesn't work. See, that's how come, that's how come
2024 happened. And Trump was able to win, right? Which is not the case. But a lot of times
what happens is, you know, every time there's a loss or an apparent loss, you know, people want
to try to get you to change
the way that you've done stuff.
And a lot of times they're trying to get you to change it
either because they know that it's successful
and they want you to change course
and to do some other stuff that won't be as strategic
and as impactful.
And then sometimes they want you to change because,
and again, I think that this is what's happening now
in terms of progressive circles
and democratic circles because it's not their thing.
And they'd rather that,
all the attention and all the resources be put in the stuff that they do.
The advertising people want to tell you that doing door knocking and old school advertising doesn't
work.
And that's why all this fundraising needs to go into doing these ads, right, which weren't effective
in the last cycle because they couldn't counter the advertising and disinformation that
was coming from the other side, right?
And so I think there's a lot of reasons.
Some of it technology, some of it because different people have different motives.
and sometimes people just simply
they don't want us to win
and want us to doubt ourselves.
Well, I'm going to put one thing on the table
and I did a whole thing on this before
a couple of months ago
and I think it's still the case.
And to Julianne's question,
I think the fundamental problem is
we have gotten where we are today
because there's been a group of black people
who committed their lives,
to changing our communities.
And those black people,
they're retiring and they're passing away.
And the problem is, they're not being replaced.
You can, if anybody steps back and go,
if you talk to anybody who's a baby boomer or Gen X,
they probably can say, oh, miss so-and-so.
We all know in different communities,
likely a miss so-and-so,
but also a Mr. So-and-so,
who worked precincts, did elections, every single election.
Well, guess what?
They now are 70, 75, 80, 85.
They're tired.
It meant something they retired, they moved on, again, or passed away.
So the problem is, these are the people who went to city council meetings,
who went to county commissioners meetings, who kept us informed.
And the problem is those people have not been replaced, Latasha.
and if we really look at Florida, North Carolina,
and y'all know, y'all interface with those folks,
and you see them sisters and them brothers out there,
and listen, they're in their 70s and 80s still trying to fight,
and then you say, well, where's they back up?
And that's part of the deal.
So we literally, as black people,
we actually have to replenish our black infrastructure
because what I have said is we've had now,
Two generations that's made a whole lot of withdrawals
from the Black Bank of Justice, they made many deposits.
That's right.
That's right.
I do think it's a little more nuanced, though,
while I absolutely agree with you,
that where are the soldiers that are coming behind the generals to do this work?
But I will also say that there have been some mechanisms in the last decade or so
that has actually undermined black organizing black infrastructure.
You know, I can even go from the Obama campaign,
and I know that may be controversial in some,
but what we did not see that,
there were always black political infrastructures in the South.
You knew who the black machine was in Alabama.
If you had done any black work,
you knew who the machine was in Alabama.
You knew who the machine was in Mississippi.
You knew the machine.
A lot of the infrastructure, to Reverend Jesse Jackson's credit,
a lot of, from 1984 and 1988 campaigns,
there was a black infrastructure in turn of how.
That was a, he had some,
He had a big-ass coat.
Yes.
He had a big-a...
People don't understand
the number of black city council members
for the first time.
County commissioners, sheriffs.
I mean, black people were elected to office
for the first time ever in 84 and 88.
That's right.
And so the approach was a black political machine.
We used black media.
We used black consultants.
We used black organizers.
There was a political machine
that actually operated
in many ways.
ways almost like an independent party in some instances, right?
What we've actually seen is I can actually count to meetings that I was in over a decade
again.
I remember meeting I was in with Melanie Campbell and some other leaders that literally
we were saying that what you all are doing is undermining like this model of how we
organized.
We saw where there was this idea of going to technology.
Like it didn't count that when you go organized, you got to organize using a particular
kind of technology.
we saw it when it came to voter registration.
The other thing that we got to take on,
now we got to take our blame,
but voter suppression has worked,
that many of that, when you see,
there are very, very few organizations
that are trying to do mass-scale voter registration.
You know why?
Because it's costly, because nine times out of ten,
it is going to require a costly legal fight.
That voter suppression has been killing us,
it's been death by a thousand cuts.
And so it has been a combination.
That's why we're seeing.
that's why we saw voter suppression efforts.
Like it wasn't, even with the stripping pre-clearance,
all of those things have had an accumulative effect
on our communities and dismantling
what I call old school black political machines.
So there's a replenish issue,
but there's also an issue in terms of the infrastructure
and philanthropy.
My last point, part of the reason why we created black voters matter,
we wanted to create a mechanism to get resources on the ground
because what we had seen is that,
that a lot of the resources would go to candidate campaign
and they would throw some dollars in the last three weeks of the campaign
around the Negroes up, and that was all that you saw.
What we decided is that if we're going to be in power,
we needed to create some kind of mechanism to fund our politics.
And as a result, we have actually contributed and invested over $52 million
and grasswood. It might be 54. Is it 54 a 54 cliff?
I don't know, 52 or 54.
Either way, 50 plus million dollars that we've actually written check,
given directly to grassroots groups,
hundreds of grassroots groups on the ground
because even the fickleness of philanthropy
of, oh, you may not be,
you might be important this time or not this time.
We're always important to us.
So there is a cumulative effect
that ultimately what makes it clear
that there's nobody that is going to look out
for black interests like black people.
And if that is the case,
then we've got to think very differently
how we utilize our resources and our money,
our time, and our talent.
A question from Matt.
So my question for you, Cliff, and Latasha is specifically with respect to health equity.
I'm interested in how that looks, what that looks like in terms of the push in the We Fight Back campaign.
And the reason I ask is because I think that's kind of an untapped policy point as it relates to all Americans, frankly.
But our health care system and just the unsustainability of it, and I'd be interested in seeing what that looks like, particularly with the campaign.
Yeah, thanks for that.
You know, we have, even before the most recent attacks on health care and Medicaid, you know,
for the past couple of years, we've been doing some work around Medicaid expansion,
trying to get the remaining 10 states, most of which are in the South,
to actually expand Medicaid.
The most recent victory on that actually came from North Carolina,
where our team and our partners there in North Carolina have been doing a lot of work
to get Medicaid expanded there, to get Obamacare expanded.
there. And so we had been doing that work already. We call it our sick and tired campaign.
And we've got some of our bus tours and baby bus tours that will go around just doing a whole
bunch of info sessions around the realities of health care, letting people know, like, how many
people in their state could get it if it was expanded. You know, we've got movies and the
documentaries that we show sometimes, including one that I'm in, talk about my own personal
story with battles around health and healthcare. It's called in due season. And we go around
and we've done like many town halls. We'll show that and then have a conversation. And so we
try to use a variety of tools again to have these conversations because we know that that's
an important issue in our communities, obviously. But we also know that that's a conversation
that then does what it drives some people who may not have been involved in the electoral process
to get involved. And that's the way that
we do all of our organizing, right? We don't focus on the election process. I mean, we do sometimes
when we're talking about voting rights and voter suppression, but we're not just going around telling
people for clipboard, hey, have you registered, sign this, right? It's about, hey, tell me about
what issue you care about, right? What is it that you are most concerned about, that you want to
see for yourself, your family, your community, and now let's have a conversation about how we can
make that a reality and how elections are a part of that, but it's not the only way, right? There's other
forms of organizing that we do to get to the ends that we want, including around health care
and Medicaid expansion.
So that's the way that we do our work.
Obviously, now we're also focused on the big, ugly bill and the attacks that is bringing
against our health care and everything else that's in that bill that's going to be attacked
our food insecurity and everything else.
But, yeah, we've always been concerned with and organizing around health care writ large
and Medicaid expansion in particular.
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How do we connect political empowerment and like the work that you're doing?
How do we connect that with leveraging our economics to enforce our political agenda
and communicating that with people?
For instance, the economic boycotts against Target,
because of them going back on their DEI,
cutting back on their DEI programs, things like this.
And then also we've seen efforts in the past,
like in New York in 2017,
divesting from pension funds that,
divesting, using pension funds to divest from privatized prisons
because they found out they were invested in privatized prisons.
How do we connect all of that together?
You know, all of it goes back,
and I know we say it almost like a broken record,
but it all goes back to organizing.
almost in all of our elements, even the work that we do,
there's going to be an education component to it connected to the campaign.
There's going to be an advocacy component to it,
and there's going to be an organizing component to it,
and that we're thinking about that.
Even as we were doing work around voter suppression,
there was an economic pressure point that we had with that.
We then just based on, okay, we educated people around what was happening.
We organized our groups together to really think about strategy,
And one of the strategies that we use, we actually targeted, even some of our county places,
we targeted those elected officials who were supporting voter suppression that many of them were
targeted even at the local county level where they had contracts with their county as the local
attorney or some kind of vendor.
Those contracts got canceled or pushed back by local folks.
We saw a broad base where we did a huge campaign around companies who we felt like should have
been standing with Georgia.
or they might have been like, what we got to do with it.
It's like, you got everything to do it.
If you get black money, you got something to do with it.
And so I think it's a matter of trying to make sure that we're doing our pressure points.
I'm saying that because I think it's important to your point around the economic,
it can't come in a vacuum.
This idea, we're just going to build enough wealthy folks and that's going to save us.
How are that working out for us?
I've just, I've just been talking about the other day that five years post-slavery,
there were over 2,000 schools that were started.
There were 60 cities.
I mean, on 60 hospitals, there were over 1,200 towns that were founded.
In Texas alone, they called them freedom colonies.
There were 500 freedom colonies, I mean, just in Texas alone.
My point is that it is, I'm sorry, not 500, 57, 57.
My point is black people were thinking more in terms of self-determination, right,
possibly because we had to.
But what we were doing is we were thinking as builders,
that we've got to build the infrastructure to support ourselves.
In this mechanism, we have to do all the things.
Yes, we've got to push.
That's why we support reparations with the work that we're doing,
that there has to be a larger issue that is just not economic.
You can't have a 200, 400 head start.
Use our bodies as collateral and leverage to build wealth in this country.
Use our label to exploit and build in this country.
And then look at us and try to figure it and say,
well, we don't understand why you're doing.
No, we want our money.
We want our money that we've invested.
that we want our money, that we've earned,
that what we put the value in this country,
we want that.
And I think it is also important for us to think now,
how are we connecting the tools in such a way
that we can circulate more of the dollar in our communities?
What are some new economic models we need to look at?
Are we looking at core operatives?
Are we looking at how do we build black businesses in a way
that we're doing a distribution of resources
in a much different way that will work for our people
opposed to what we're seeing on mainstream?
So there's a combination of pieces that we use in terms of, one, figuring out how we educate and inform folks.
Two, figure out how we organize us to be able to leverage our power.
And then three, it has some real concrete alternatives that are not based on what we see right now.
Well, you talked about money, and I've said to people, listen, don't get money to candidates, get that money to Black voters matter.
We need to have money that goes directly on the ground, that we know that white media strategies are not going to be sucking up the money as well.
is much better to use.
Last point of here, first of all,
how y'all going to wear y'all Black Voters Matter
Daeshiki and y'all ain't tell nobody?
First of all, we didn't even coordinate this,
so I'm actually surprised when Cliff got on,
I was like, oh, okay, Cliff.
I mean, y'all...
We rocking black and proud these days.
Listen, we got, we're going to remind America reminding us
and we remind in America who we are.
Okay, so, I mean, this was just a night before last.
Turn the audio up.
I don't understand why y'all, this, come on,
Audio. So my man, Latasha Brown, my man, Clip Albright. They knew different African tops I had.
So they sent me this, this Dysheki black start. Matter of fact, I'm going to stand right in the front.
So just, I'm, so they sent me, I know, no, just I got it. They sent me this, this, this black
Voters Matter, Daishiki. So y'all see what it looks like right here. This is what it looks like
on the back, and so
then they have, but you see right here
they got BVM on the
sleeves as well. So
I'm not sure if they have it on
their website. I think they do.
So go to black voters matter
dot com if y'all
all right. So people ask me,
so they want one, where they get it?
Well, this one is kind of
special. I don't think they can order this one. Can they
clear? I think we have
one version of it on the website.
Okay. That will take, but they could go to our
website black photos matter fun
dot org in the menu
somewhere on there it says shop
and it's got you know our shirts and
hoodies and I'm pretty sure that there's
there's one of these dashikis on there
if there's not you know shoot us a
shoot us an email and we'll see if we could
get it added man man
y'all better move some product
we need to move some product don't
yeah y'all better move some
listen y'all better hold I'm checking right now
let's see here shop
is it on there
uh oh
listen y'all
we're going to have to talk
what's up
y'all shop button ain't working
look right here look I'm clicking
I click shop
oh well we got to get that fit
y'all got to get that
y'all come on now
listen they ain't y'all about
something to try out we're going to get it fixed
I'll get it fixed
tonight but before we go
roller I got to say just a quick word
if we still got a minute just I got to say a quick word
about what's going on with D.C.
and what's going on.
Yeah, I got 60 seconds
because I got a guess waiting.
Go ahead.
Okay, 60 seconds.
We all know, you know,
Roland's been talking about
what's been going on in D.C.
The invasion of D.C.
We got a bunch of actions
that we got on our website
and on our social media.
If you want to find out
what's going on, two things.
One, we got a Zoom webinar
that we're doing tomorrow.
We're going to be talking about D.C.
We're going to have some of the D.C.
activists on there.
We're going to talk about the calls,
the action that we have.
We're doing a call campaign to get Congress to end the occupation of D.C.
We got another call campaign that we got in those six states that have sent National Guard.
So we got folks in those states that are going to be making calls and organizing around that.
So to find out more, you can text Free D.C.
Free D.C. to 25-225.
Free D.C. to 25-2-25.
And it will get you a link that you can get on to the Zoom webinar.
and you can hear all that information
and find out about those calls of action.
We have got to be clear
that what's going on in D.C. right now
is not just about D.C.
It's coming to all of our city.
We've got to stop it in D.C. right now.
All right, then.
I'm quite sure I'll be seeing y'all on the row in the fall.
We appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
Thank you, Rowling.
All right, folks, got to go to a break.
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Well, whatever show is going to be.
It's going to be good.
Well, the thug-in-chief continues his thuggish ways.
Donald Trump is now threatening to take over Washington, D.C.
Listen to this sheer stupidity.
And I'm tired of listening to these people saying how safe it was before we got here.
It was unsafe.
It was horrible.
And Mayor Bowser better get her axe straight.
She won't be mayor very long because we'll take it over with the federal government
run it like it's supposed to be run.
The numbers were horrible.
It was a crime-infested rat hole, and they do have a lot of rats.
We're getting rid of them, too.
Y'all, he's a liar.
He's a liar.
He doesn't support as well.
And the folks said WJLA also did their own reporting about what's going on as well.
And guess what?
They're not arresting for folks for violent crime.
Not doing that.
It's actually a whole bunch of misdemeanors.
That's what's actually going on.
WJLA said that the White House,
they said seven news obtained a copy of the breakdown
of each arrest outside of immigration
and custom enforcement apprehensions
which show that the majority of the arrests
and interactions aren't for violent crimes.
It noted every documented arrest during the takeover.
The U.S. Marshal Service says it's responsible
for the overall operations outside of immigration enforcement.
There have been 379 arrests documented.
There were, according to this,
Give me one second.
Let me pull this up again.
I had an error here.
There were
379 arrest documented.
More misdemeanors
and traffic citations than violent
crime arrests. A total of 377
citations and quoted other
arrests. Violent arrest,
nine arrests are recorded
which include homicide and sex
crimes. He's a liar,
Matt. He's a flat-out
liar. And the
the media stood there and allowed him to lie.
I mean, yeah, that's part and parcel of what we've seen them do with him.
And, you know, the reality is the facts don't matter.
The data doesn't matter.
I mean, I saw Larry Krasner recently just up the road in Philly talking about how Philly
is at like it's 50-year low, I think, in homicides this year.
But what does Trump do?
He comes out and says, you know, Philly and Oakland and all these cities are dangerous,
despite the data unequivocally showing that those places are safer than they have been because
crime is down.
And the reality is his base doesn't care about that.
And for whatever reason, the media is not checking him on that.
And that really is a huge problem, right?
Because he can ideologically have whatever opinion he has, but he can't have the facts.
And if the facts don't buttress what you're saying, then somebody should be calling you out saying,
hey, you're saying that, but this is a 30-year low.
So it really cannot be what you're saying it is.
and therefore the actions you're taking
are not justified by the data, right, objectively.
And that's what you're seeing here.
And it's interesting because, you know, as a former prosecutor,
I saw this same thing on a very local level with conservatives.
You know what they do?
They talk tough on crime all the time.
And then they would come sit in my office
when Buffy got a little too drunk leaving the college
and they would tell me about how she deserves a second chance, right?
But the black kids across town,
the mongrues across town are not supposed to get that opportunity.
And that is at play in this very situation with Trump in D.C.
Because even if the crime is down, it doesn't matter.
You're not talking about the kids from Georgetown and George Washington and all the college kids.
What he's trying to do is say all of these people in D.C. are criminals.
And it doesn't matter what the data actually says about how the crime is down.
I'm going to continue running with this narrative because I want to do what it is I want to do,
which is overtake D.C.
And this is the subterfuge for that.
You see that on the local level and you see that at play right now.
in D.C. and his overtaking of the district.
Michael's not just D.C.
This is what the liar-in-chief said about Chicago and New York.
Listen.
Chicago is a mess.
You have an incompetent mayor, grossly incompetent,
and we'll straighten that one out probably next.
That'll be our next one after this.
And it won't even be tough.
And the people in Chicago, Mr. Vice President,
are screaming for us to come.
They're wearing red hats, just like this one.
But they're wearing red hats.
African-American ladies, beautiful ladies, are saying,
please, President Trump, come to Chicago, please.
I did great with the black vote, as you know,
and they want something to happen.
So I think Chicago will be our next,
and then we'll help with New York,
and we're going to help with...
And I think really, I think a lot of...
And a lot of these people that you see on television,
they're including the people in this audience.
They'll say bad things about me,
and then they'll say,
here because half of them got
mugged and they don't want to get mugged
again but they're you know they work for a ladder
they work for stupid people
that are radical left
and they're made to do things and say things
that they don't want to be saying but the people
right here are all happy because you
and here's the deal J.D. Vance is standing there
working for a stupid person
Michael pure and simple
well J.D. Vance is stupid as
well so what we have
here once again is the
authoritarian play but
authoritarian always go after
the most vulnerable groups of people
to target. They go after the people
who are deemed as the least desirable.
Adolf Hitler went after those who were handicapped,
went after those who were part of the LGBT community.
He also went after Afro-Germans.
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Here, you see Donald Trump talking about Chicago. Well, the Huffington Post, you know, they just posted their article, and
And he's saying, you know, all these African-American ladies want me to come in things like this.
But Hubbardton Post just posted, they said, considering Kamala Harris beat Donald Trump and Cook County, Illinois, by about 75%, by about a 75% margin, there were a lot of social media skeptics to what he's saying.
But this is the model that he's trying to roll out across the country, okay?
Now, it's going to be harder in other states like Illinois and California, things like this,
because they actually have governors where Washington, D.C. does not.
But this is why we have to fight this, okay?
This is the playbook.
And this is straight out of Project 2025, as Robert Bartillo said yesterday,
I think it was yesterday on your show, where you talked about page of 55 for Project 2025.
This is what they're laying out, and they're spewing racism to justify this authority.
authoritarian table.
And Julian, here's the deal.
First of all, it's some black woman who is, I think, a quasi-fitness person
who's one of them, Trump and read something.
I don't know what the hell.
I don't listen to them at all.
But here's the whole deal here, Julian.
First and foremost, he just can't roll up in Chicago.
See, he just can't declare any emergency in Chicago.
No, they know how to his works.
And he'll get his ass soon and he's going to lose.
And trust me, Chicago ain't going to respond
the same way you see it in D.C.
Okay, so we see what this fool is doing.
But you notice there are eight out of the top ten homicide states,
there are eight of them are red.
He ain't talking about going to those states, is it?
Well, you know, the irony of him sending the Mississippi
sitting the National Guard here, it is a horrible irony.
Yeah, especially when they broke, what they broke ass, what they broke ass.
Well, they not only would they broke asses, but also with their crime-ridden asses.
I mean, go to Jackson, Mississippi.
He's afraid to do that.
But let me get you in downtown D.C.
And in the past week, we have seen off 14th Street where, you know, it's a young people central.
This guy who runs a restaurant, kind of clubby place, said last Saturday night, he said,
said they had about 30% of the people they usually have, two couples on the dance floor.
I was walking up 14th Street, and anyway, I saw these two young brothers, very attractive
young brothers, they were so clean cut. And this person stopped them, asked them for ID.
One of the young brothers said, my daddy is a lawyer, I don't have to give you nothing.
The woman, it was a black woman, National Guard, and she started clowning them.
I just walked over, I said, young men, do me a favor.
And this, you know, they were well-bred.
They said, yes, ma'am.
I said, keep walking.
I said, just keep walking.
You don't have to deal with her.
And she told me, well, can you give me your ID?
I bust out.
I'm like, fool, have you lost what a little piece of mind you used to have?
What are you doing here?
You can't arrest anybody.
It's harassing people.
Well, up and down 14th Street, they're going restaurant to restaurant rolling,
up up in a Shepard Park, restaurant to restaurant.
And Adams Morgan, asking people if any of their employees are undocumented.
This is we I live in a police state. We live in a police state. And the fact that the ban is selling wolf tickets that he cannot cash. He cannot get any governor of a blue state. Kathy Hatchell, Pritzker, these people are not going to call their national guard out for this nonsense. Plus crime in D.C. is down. But what he's doing is imposing a climate of fear, a climate of intimidation. So that some of our, it's not even undocumented people. Some people, some people, some people,
who are documented, but also Latino, are afraid to get on certain days.
They've been standing outside churches and schools.
It is total intimidation.
We in the African-American community, we have to stand up against it.
I mean, we're standing up.
You have the best in terms of voting on just a bit ago Latasha and Cliff.
But we have to, you know, what's the James Bond said.
Somebody else said it.
They come for me in the morning, they come for you tonight.
And guess what?
I'm trying to figure out people is going to happen to us.
I'm trying to figure out where all these FBI Negroes?
We're all these foundational black Americans.
They were tweeting me all the time, and they were like, oh, yeah, this ain't going to impact us.
They ain't coming for us.
Where all the FBI, what are FBI, what are the FBI B-1-A-Dos, folks?
Boy, it's amazing how quiet they are on my time.
Come on, come on.
It's amazing how quiet they are on my timeline.
All right, let me go to a break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to deal with this state representative
who is getting, the people are coming after him
for saying he did something he didn't do.
We're going to talk to him next.
Also, we're going to show y'all how Trump is a liar.
They are criticizing the Smithsonian's Latino Museum
but saying that the Texas Revolution was about slavery.
It was.
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Black Connecticut state lawmaker
Corey Paris has received hate-filled threats
after being falsely accused of doxying
sensitive information about U.S. immigration
and custom enforcement agents.
According to Paris, the controversy began
when he posted a message on Instagram
informing his followers that he had learned
of immigration enforcement efforts in his district
and wanted to warn residents to, quote,
vigilant. Shortly after that, this far-right activist Shia Rachik, known as Lives of TikTok,
they've been targeting lots of people, tagged ICE's official account and urged the agency to, quote,
charge him. The following day, ICE officials reshared the post and tagged the Department of Justice's
account. Corparen joins us right now. Glad to have you here representative parents. So
they claim, and see, lives of TikTok is known to lie. They're known to lie. Okay.
Okay. So they claim you posted sensitive information as if you posted somebody's name, home address, who their husband and wife is and where their kids go to school.
That's right. And Roland, thank you for having me. And as my grandmother often said growing up, there's a dead cat on the line and the son of a biscuit is stinking. And that's exactly what's happening right now.
So all you said was stay vigilant. That was the post.
That's right. And I want to be unequivocally clear that what I shared was no different than many of my colleagues in elected office, but they share every single day and what they shared during this time as ICE was coming into many of our communities. And it was simply public information from government channels. It was not done to harm ICE. It was done to convey urgency to families who live in fear of this agency and of this administration so that they can make decisions to protect themselves. And that is part of what it means to be a representative. That's what I was elected to do. I do it for those who vote.
voted for me, for those who didn't vote for me, for those who can't vote for me yet,
ensuring that people have the information they need, even when it's uncomfortable.
And again, I mean, this is literal harassment, courtesy of lives of TikTok.
And so what have you had to contend with and deal with?
It's been a rough couple of days, for sure.
We certainly have been shaken, but we're not moved.
So I have received nasty phone calls and threatening phone calls from folks who have claimed
to be former government agents who have claimed that they know where my family lives. They
have also mentioned the states in which they've lived, that they were coming for me. They've
shared racial epithets in their calls. I've had people say that they want to execute me,
that I should be hung and lynched. It goes on and on. And so this has started a whole new thing
because the many people who have reached out have said that this has now been shared over
two million times, viewed over two million times by people all across this country,
reshared in many Trump, pro-Trump signals and pro-Trump outlets, the same with pro-conservative
outlets.
They wrote about it for many days, and the harassment and the threats just continue to come.
And it's unacceptable, especially what's more unacceptable is that the Department of Homeland
Security and Department of Justice have actually pretty much not doubled down from what
they've said at the time. They acknowledge that they regularly amplify posts from groups outside
of government, including groups like lives of TikTok, which re-shared mine. And the Department of
Justice has said through the New York Times that they will not tolerate actions that disclose
the location of law enforcement, which again is not what I did. And so, and again, the problem that
we have now is the thug-in-chief has thug agencies that are doing his dirty work.
and they don't care about due process at all, or facts.
That's right.
You're absolutely right.
And look, this moment is for everyone because people should remember,
whether you black, brown, white, Asian, whatever you are,
you have to remember that the Constitution guarantees us something.
The Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments say that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty,
and property without due process of law.
That language is deliberate.
It says no citizen.
I'm sorry, excuse me.
It does not say no citizen.
and it says no person. So due process for us means fair treatment. It means notice. It means a chance
to defend yourself in protections against fundamental rights being stripped away without a compelling
reason. And our courts up to now have made it very clear that those protections will and have
applied to everyone in U.S. jurisdiction, including non-citizens. And that's the principle which separates
democracy from tyranny. Absolutely. And so what security precaution have you taken? Have you had to
I mean, get folks outside of where you live, where you work.
I mean, so how are you protecting yourself?
You know, I don't want to go into too much detail about that,
but I will tell you that protection is a top priority for me and certainly my family,
but I'll also say it should be a top priority for every elected official in this country.
If you're just simply doing your job, what you were elected to do,
for which you've taken an oath to do,
it is nearly unconscionable for us to believe that if you are threatened that you don't have access
to protection,
or security for yourself and for your family.
And that is just a, that's not a far cry
from what we've just seen happen in Minnesota
a couple of weeks ago.
And what we might see in the future.
Again, it's Corey Paris today.
It was the Speaker of the House of Minnesota
a couple of weeks ago.
It could be any person tomorrow.
And that's why it's so important
to raise the alarm on what's happening
right now in this country.
Absolutely.
We're ever sitting in Paris.
Take care of yourself.
I appreciate you coming on the show.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you so much.
All right, folks.
Got to go to the break.
We come back.
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The book explains so much about what we're going through in this country right now,
and how, as white people head toward becoming a racial minority, it's going to get,
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university has 10 days to accept a resolution agreement if approved GMU will be required to stop
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training. Now this is the same university that the Trump folks want the black president
to resign. They've been putting pressure on him to do so and it's the latest attack again on
black people. See, I keep trying to tell y'all what's going on. See, I ain't making this stuff up.
They are attacking everybody black. They're attacking a black woman.
on the Federal Reserve, they're attacking him.
They attack, this is what they do.
They are constantly attacking New York State Attorney General, Letitia James.
He's attacking D.C. Mayor of Muriel Bowser, and so this is an absolutely anti-black,
white nationalist, white supremacist administration, period.
Not even a conversation.
Now, you know they're real mad about this one.
Kilmore Brago-Garcia, you know, the man all back and forth, who would sit El Salvador,
then came back, then they indicted him claiming he was human trafficking in Tennessee.
Then a federal judge told him, that's the bullshit, let him out of prison.
But guess what?
He was released from federal custody months after he was wrongfully deported to a prison in El Salvador.
Plus, falsely accused of being a gang member.
And they still running around saying he's a gang member.
U.S. magistrate Judge Barbara Holmes, one of the middle district of Tennessee, ordered
this release from a jail near Nashville.
He's now en route to reunite with his family in Maryland.
He has 48 hours to arrive at his brother.
home in suburban Maryland, where he's permitted to live under a set court-imposed conditions.
He's also required to check in with immigration officials at the ICE, Baltimore, field office.
Now, you know that is absolutely driving them crazy, Michael, because they try to make him
the poster child, and we see the game that they're playing.
This is, this, there's nothing these people say that I trust.
Nothing.
If Donald Trump says, wow, it's a gorgeous day, blue skies, I'm a little.
look up and double and triple check because they are liars.
Well, yeah, they're liars, and this is pure evil.
And this is an authoritarian power grab.
So this is good news here for Kilmar Obrigo Garcia.
We'll see how all this plays out.
But, you know, all of this is connected.
And, you know, I've said before on this show, Roland, that, you know,
white supremacy and racism, it targets all black people, regardless of a place of origin,
the language you speak, or your religion. And also, it targets non-white people. So just thinking
because they're going after Latinos, they're not coming after black people also. No, they're
attacking all of us at the same time. So we really have to wake up and look at what's going on
because some of us think that because of our proximity to white supremacy, it protects us from
white supremacy. No, it doesn't. They're coming for all of us. So when you go to the story
about Texas and slavery, then I'll comment on that hopefully as well. Matt?
Well, you know, I think the last part of what Michael said is what stood out to me most prominently,
which is, you know, there is a myth that your proximity to whiteness or power, really power
structures somehow insulates you from, you know, being on the chopping block. And what you see
is that the opposite is true. This woman, Ms. Cook, who's the first black woman ever on the
Federal Reserve, I mean, you have to be imminently qualified to be on the Federal Reserve Board.
You know that, right? But what you do is when you want to attack black people, you make
any conversation about a black person who doesn't fit your ideological stance, one of meritocracy,
always, right? Like this brother, Dr. Washington at George Mason, is eminently qualified. I was reading
in his background. He's got three degrees in mechanical engineering, right? Former dean and mechanical
engineering at Ohio State. I mean, this brother is eminently qualified. But the moment you see a
black person in power, I mean, if you have a fundamental belief that black people should not be
in power, then you automatically equate that with them not having the merit to be where they are.
And that is what is so problematic about this administration is because there are not any value judgments of people based on what they're actually doing.
It's purely based on how they look and your fundamental belief that they should not be where they are.
And, you know, I think Michael's right.
I think not only are they coming for our Latino brothers and sisters, they're coming for us and they're not hiding that fact.
And it does not matter what kind of education you have, what kind of bona fides you've had in your career.
if you are black, you do not deserve to be there, period, in their eyes.
And you were, therefore, always be a target of attack.
Right, because for them, at the end of the day, Julian, they only think white people,
especially white men are qualified.
I mean, hell, they, these, do you know how, Julia, do you know how dumbass these people are?
These people are mad.
They mad at Cracker Barrel.
they literally
I don't understand why
somebody somebody I saw a post
somebody said the cracker's mad at Cracker Barrel
I cracked them laughing but they literally are mad
that Cracker Barrel changed their logo
and said Cracker Barrel went woke
Like what the hell
I mean these truly are some of the dumb
And then Byron they're still Cracker Barrel
And then Byrd Donald's dumb ass
talking by a little how he got
oh my goodness he upset because he
got saved
he got saved
he declared Jesus is Lord and Christ
Savior in a cracker barrow in a parking lot
really
Roland please
I'm serious they're crazy
they're mad at Cracker Barrow
They're mad
They're mad
They're all right Julian they're so mad
They mad at Cracker Barrow
so now
when you walk in the cracker barrel
you ain't walking to no damn
country-ass store you're walking
to the restaurant they mad all that
country shit man I'm like
well y'all y'all some iggin'ass people
causing their stock price to go down
these people are insane
go ahead
they have allowed their racism
they have allowed their racism to
drive them insane
I mean the examples you're given the one that I want to just
pick up on because Dr. Lisa
a cook, a fellow black woman economist, impeccable credentials, you know, this man that has
and civil civility goes out the window. He doesn't know how to say anything that makes sense.
He reduces himself, but he's already reduced to calling people out of their name, calling them
a immigrant. You know, he did that with Kamlai. He had all these names for her. He has these names
for people. But Dr. Cook is doing a good job. The only problem he has.
has with Dr. Lisa Cook is that if she resign, he has a vacancy on the Fed and he can basically
change the tone and tenor of what happens with interest rates. The members of the Fed, the seven
members of the Fed essentially choose the heads of the regional, the 12 regional fed members. And
five of those actually have input into interest rates. So he's basically going to take over
the economy. But you know, when he was elected, he said he was going to manage the economy.
How's that turning out for us?
Frankly, the tariffs are going to increase and flow to you.
I already see people talking about that.
The unemployment is steady but steady but drifting downward,
and all the American women lost their jobs.
In fact, African-American women is the only group
that had their labor force participation rate drop.
The only group had a significant drop in labor force participation.
Now, some of the other groups might have 1.2,
but basically we have a 10%
1% which by 10% drop
labor force participation. They have allowed their racism
to drive them nuts and we see it every day.
I don't even know why they let this man go to a microphone
and by the way, you know, you don't have to be white
adjacent as some black people think they are.
You can be playing on white like John Bolton.
Listen, I...
Your house will be rated.
For the life of me, I don't...
We really are moving.
into a crazy oligarchy
where you said the man was stupid
on CNN and the next thing you'll know
your house is raided, your office is rated.
You're not even there.
Your wife who...
Listen, listen.
Listen, we know what any of these people are...
Y'all, this is...
I got to stay on the Cracker Barrel thing.
Y'all, this is what Byron Donald tweeted.
In college, I worked at Cracker Barrel in Tallahassee.
I even gave my life to Christ in their parking lot.
Their logo was iconic
in their unique restaurants
were a fixture of American culture.
No one asked for this woke rebrand.
It's time to make Cracker Barrel great again.
Oh, my God.
Y'all, this is literally the logo.
Y'all, this is the old-ass Cracker Barrel logo
of an old white man leaning against the barrel in a chair
and it says Old Country Store.
These, this is what they mad at.
y'all
I'm like
y'all
y'all ain't got that much time in your hands
now y'all know
as a matter of fact the AI people
are so quick
look at this here
oh
it gets better
it gets better because you know
you know somebody
had to go ahead
and um just
Just turn the audio up.
They dropped this using AI.
I was serving up the biscuits, gravy on the side.
Waping down tables just trying to survive.
When the preacher came in, ordered chicken fry,
he left me a pamphlet, said, son, don't you hide?
I clocked out early, had something to think.
Took my sweet tea outside.
I've leaned on the sink
I found God in a cracker barrel parking lot
by the dumpsters and the smell of taker tops
He said, son, you've been lost
But you're not forgot
I found God in a cracker barrel parking lot
The young lights flickered on that old country store
I mean, Matt, these people are ignorant, man
I'm like, they, they, they are, these, these in there mag of fools are just mad upset.
But here's what somebody said.
Here's the real deal.
They're mad because Cracker Barrel has a female, a white female CEO.
And for them, they just put, now they've got the Cracker Barrel logo underwoke.
Well, first off, I got to say, shout out.
to add Ace Vane on Instagram. I actually just texted it to you, Roland. He did a thing with the
Cracker Barrel logo that's one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time, so you've got to
see that. But I mean, I think you're right. And that's the interesting thing you bring up,
because when we talk about DEI, how many times have you said on this show, who is the biggest
recipient of DEI policies? It's white women. It is not black people. So the idea that people
are angry about this is really an extension of what you've seen them be angry about other things
and this loss of Americana
and really this loss of whiteness.
I give you an example.
There's the local sheriff
in the county I live in all the time.
Always says,
we want to return our community to safety.
We want to go back to Mayberry.
And every time he says that,
I'm like, does he not realize
that there were no black people in Mayberry?
You are telling me how you feel about us
without saying it.
And that's what we're seeing.
That's what this is.
People are mad about anything
that they think is woke or woke adjacent.
And this is the most asinine thing
to be mad about.
If you like Cracker Barrow's food, go eat their food, but who cares about the logo?
This is more an extension of they think their America is being taken, and that's what we're seeing.
It's all white supremacy, white nationalism, and they're just telling them themselves, Michael.
Well, absolutely, you know, to say ignorant, what did you say, ignorant MAGA foods, that's redundant, okay, because that's a redundant statement right there.
But, yeah, Maga is ignorant.
It's a cult, okay?
And when you listen to these people, they don't make any sense, but it's like they live
in an alternate universe, okay?
And, you know, white supremacy is a powerful drug.
And what it does is it causes them to vote for people who are really against their own
interest.
When we talk about rural America,
they're going to be devastated by the big, big, ass, ugly bill.
No, no, no, Michael, no, Michael.
That stuff means nothing.
They're going to be devastated because the cracker barrel logo is changed.
Well, look, they like, what?
See, they walk around like, damn it, what happened to my cracker?
Where did my cracker go?
Why did my cracker in the chair in the barrel?
Why they left?
I've been rolling.
It's like, look, look, people, look people.
It's the, it's the same fool.
It's the same food.
It's the same food.
Okay, so, but.
No, no, Michael, it ain't the same.
Michael, they got rid of my cracker.
Okay.
They got rid of my cracker.
And so go ahead, finish your point.
Yeah.
Well, these are the type of cultural wars that they get distracted with while their health
care is being cut.
while their hospitals are being shut down,
while the cost of their food
that they already can't afford is going up,
they get distracted
with these culture wars,
and this is how...
This ain't even a culture war.
It's a fucking cracker barrel logo.
No, but it's part of the white supremacist...
Wait a minute.
They took the white...
They took the white man leaning on...
They took the white man leaning on a barrel.
ain't like they put
a black woman in some cowboy boots
but but the erasure of white
the white man in their mind is
the white replacement theory
okay the Roland these are some crazy
hey I already know that dog hold up
so Matt so talk about
they went woke that's an attack
on DEI so all that kicks in
white supremacist
I don't I know and they all crack heads
Matt sent me Ace Vane
What y'all so now the cracker
So here we go let me set it up
The Cracker Barrel logo speaks
Hello
I'm the Cracker from Cracker Barrel
And y'all know I've set on that damn logo
For 48 damn years
Longer than a snake deep throat in the giraffe neck
Then overnight
You got this diverse evil ignorant
or DEI group of people
taking over our marketing
talking about we need a rebrand
then poof
I'm going faster than a black man
driving through Alabama
how you're going to rebrand
without de-brand
on the goddamn reason people
come to Cracker Barrel
How are you going to have a place
called Cracker Barrel
without a cracker leaning on a barrel
I mean what's next America
a black female
Pipey's manager that doesn't fight
her customers
Cracker Barrel needs a cracker
and the barrel.
And I'm the coldest cracker
some of a bitch to ever lean on a barrel
this side of a Mississippi.
Hell, maybe both sides.
But don't you go worry about your old boy, Cracker?
I got a little nest egg,
and I'll find something to lean on I always have.
But it's a damn shame
what y'all doesn't let it happen to old barrel.
Who the hell out here from the hiring me, bro?
Nobody. Nobody hiring barrels.
I might as well just jump in the fucking fireplace, bro.
Oh, man.
When this happened, Nickers dying there ain't there one night before.
Jesus, why?
Ain't nobody tell us dumb as to die.
Oh, Ace Bain.
That, matter of fact, hold up.
I didn't realize.
I had never heard of Ace Bain.
and I just pulled it
and I realized he followed me
he follows me
Ace Bain and earn himself a follow
I'm not following him
that was funny as hell Matt
yeah I died yesterday
when I saw it I didn't even know
I knew nothing about it and then I saw the video
and I just lost it but I love all his stuff
he's hilarious and I just thought that was
a funny take and Jermaine to what we're talking
about now
that is absolutely
I'm telling you it is it is beyond
on hilarious. And these people
are just beside. I mean, they
are literally losing their mind,
Julia. They are just
they are mad as hell
about crack a barrel changing
a logo.
You know, that is hilarious.
Whoever the brother sent it out,
right out into him, I mean,
I'm sitting here almost falling off my chair
because it was hilarious. But at
the same time, it does illustrate, not only
as I said, these people's racism has caused
them to lose their minds, their home,
But the other piece of it is the distraction of what Michael's hood.
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so they're on Cracker Barrel,
they ain't got no money.
Excuse my Ebonics,
but they ain't got no money,
but they're worried about a logo,
a cracker, and a barrel.
Just like this man is afraid
that we'll learn something about his
hygings with Jeffrey Epstein,
so he's going after our museum.
You know, they major in the minor
because the major will convict them.
They major in the minor.
Look at this little, the Latino Museum.
Who and the, what president has ever had that kind of involvement in the weeds of a museum?
I mean, we fought hard to get that museum.
No, no, no, no, no, hold on.
I'm going to hold up, y'all.
See, y'all, y'all be, y'all got to stop trying to get ahead of stuff.
I'm going to get to that in a second.
But I need to try to stay focused on crackers and cracker, okay?
I need y'all to stay focused on.
Somebody.
You want to be focused on crackers.
Somebody posted this tweet.
I think that's hilarious.
said white replacement theory
Maga is pissed. They took the cracker out of Cracker Barrow.
That's a funny thing. And again,
they are mad because this is
the woman who's the CEO
and because Cracker Bear supports
LGBTQ, some of the Lions,
woke CEO Cracker Barrel
changed his logo after 407
years. Well, damn. Ain't
that a shame? Hell,
guess what? I guess they're going to get mad
because Snap will change their damn
bottles. Oh, the Lord. What they
hell we gonna do and my goodness like this ain't like coke changing to new coke this ain't even
right it's a logo y'all they're some ignorant-ass people let me let me go i'm telling you i can't
listen these they just ignit you know what marjor taylor green says we need our own country you know
what oh this is all i endorsed that please ship all them dumb asses somewhere else or you know what
They always talk about go back to Africa.
Take y'all ass back to Europe, please.
Damn.
Let me go to a break.
We come back, y'all.
I got to talk about these dumb-ass White House people
who don't know nothing about history.
They ain't read nothing, don't know nothing.
They stuck on stupid.
Wait till I show y'all what these fools actually posted
on the official White House website.
If anybody out there, if y'all voted for this fool,
y'all got to own this.
and if you black,
your ass ain't never get invited to the cookout.
I don't care what you do.
I don't care if you win a billion dollars
and give it all the HBCUs.
If you were as stupid to vote for this dumbass,
you are really a fool.
And if you black walk around with a maga hat,
you'd probably eat that cracker barrel.
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After just two years, Howard University, looking for a new president, Ben Benson III,
who joined August of 2023, is stepping down to the end of the month.
His departure comes just days into the new academic year.
The board appointed Wayne A.I. Frederick, the former Howard University president and graduate,
to be the interim president.
Now, of course, he retired in 2022.
Vince's last day will be August 31st
with Frederick assuming the role the following day
during his tenure. Howard continued to attract
high-profile scholars.
However, this summer, the university faced controversy
when a new payment system error
caused massive problems with students
caused them to be mistakenly marked delinquent
on their tuition bills prompting threats of collections
in response somehow with students
organized protests and parents were pissed off
as well because of all of the drama.
Folks, speaking of the drama,
we got to deal with
these dumb asses in the White House.
Now, Trump somehow thinks that he can run
the Kennedy Center. He thinks that he's the damn
curator of the Smithsonian.
Hell, he actually said
this here, y'all, that he was the chief
law enforcement officer of the country.
Now, of course, one of my panelists mentioned
John Bolton getting in his house,
his home rated. Y'all, pull a clip up.
where Trump is standing before the people
and he tried to say he ain't know about it
but then again he says he the nation's top cop
probably today sometime
I don't want to tell Pam and I tell the group
I don't want to know about it just you have to do what you have to do
I don't want to know about it it's not necessary I could know about it
I could be the one starting it I'm actually the chief law enforcement
officer but I feel that it's better this way
That dumbass is the chief law enforcement officer.
Pull a video back up and freeze it.
Y'all see that stupid-ass hat he got on?
Trump was right about everything.
His dumbass is wrong about nearly every...
Yo, this is what they got on the White House website.
And they've been attacking the Smithsonian saying,
oh, they have these wrong exhibits.
President Trump is right about the Smithsonian.
So you go through this article,
and it says the National Museum of African American History,
history and culture debuted a series to educate people, quote, on a society that privileges
white people in whiteness, defining so-called white-dominate culture as ways white people
and the traditions, attitudes, and ways of life have been normalized over time in
portraying the nuclear family, work ethic, and intellect as white qualities rooted in racism.
All true, and so then they're attacking, let me listen here, the campaign featured content
from hardcore woke activist, Ibram X. Kennedy.
Okay, so check this out.
Okay, so they got other complaints,
National Portrait Gallery.
But this is the one that jumped.
Look at this here.
The National Museum of African Art display and exhibit
on works of speculative fiction
that bring to life an immersive, feminist,
and sacred aquatopia inspired by the legend of Drexia,
an underwater kingdom populated by the children
of pregnant women who have been thrown overboard
or jumped into the ocean during the Middle Passage.
I'm sorry, y'all.
about the slavery thing again.
All right, so y'all check this out.
So they criticize the American History Museum's
LGBT-G-L-G-Q history exhibit.
Then they criticize the National Museum
of American Latino as well.
But this is the one that I want to talk about.
Y'all, it says the National Museum
of the American Latino
characterizes the Texas Revolution
as a massive defense of slavery
waged by white Anglo-Saxon settlers
against an anti-slavery Mexicans
fighting for freedom,
not a Texan War of Independence for Mexico,
and frames the Mexican-American War
as the North American invasion
that was unprovoked and motivated by pro-slavery politicians.
That's true.
Y'all,
when we talk about his story and history, his story means white man's his story.
See, I'm born and raised in Houston, and every student in Texas in the seventh grade is required to learn Texas history.
Now, y'all understand, the book is about that thick.
I'm not lying, by that thick.
So, growing up, remember the al-O!
Remember the al-a-mo?
It was always talked about.
And Davy Crockett and the others,
they were portrayed as these righteous men
who were fighting those Mexican savages.
And these righteous men were standing up
on behalf of Texas.
And then we had the great Sam Houston and the great Stephen F. Austin and Milam and all of these characters and how they were just these fine, upstanding men who wanted to free Texas from the shackles of the decrepit and the evil and the savage Mexicans.
except they left out
a couple of things
remember when I called out
the history channel on that bullshit docu-series
well they talked about Texas independence
all they kept saying Texas independence
fighting for Texas independence
well see if you're going to say you're fighting for Texas
independence well you need to say
you're fighting to be independent of what
and the fact is
the Texas Revolution
was trying
for the white Anglo-Saxons
to steal Texas from Mexico
the white Anglo-Saxons in Texas
Stephen F. Austin, Sam Houston,
David Prockett and others, they
wanted to be free from Mexico. Why?
Because Mexico outlawed slavery.
if you read.
And we got the interview
of the great historian Gerald Horn.
His book on this very issue.
In his book, he talks about how
people of African descent who were enslaved
were literally escaping across the border.
Thousands were escaping to Mexico
because they were free.
It got to the point where these white Anglo-Saxons
were literally crossing state lines to capture them Mexico and drag them back.
So it is a fundamental fact that the Texas Revolution,
the fight for Texas independence, was over slavery, period.
That's what it was there.
So what these white supremacists in the White House,
they are not upset because the truth is actually been told.
That's they mad about.
They mad, and the truth is actually being told.
Because, see, what they want is they want to continue this fictionalized version of Texas independence.
Oh, my God, is Texas independence?
We can't, like, like, we can't actually, we can't actually tell people really what Texas independence is.
actually about, because if we do that, then, oh, my God, people are going to actually
know what they were fighting against.
I did something on this, and I said this.
You know, former Texas governor, Rick Abbott, I mean, Rick Perry, he decided to
create a trophy, a trophy for the winner of the Texas Amos.
University of South Carolina game and so he was trying to figure out we need a trophy let's get a trophy
so what can we do if we'd create this trophy so he was like hey let's create the bottom trophy
oh my god it's the bottom trophy so if we create the bottom trophy then that'll be the thing
that we can award to the winner.
And so they decided to say,
yeah, we need the bottom trophy.
That's what we need.
And so y'all, this, give me one second.
So this here is a photo of the bottom trophy.
And so this is the trophy that the winner
of the annual Texas A&M South Carolina game receives.
Ooh, ooh, that's a great.
Look at this here.
We got this man, he's on a horse and he's holding a gun and oh my goodness and he's holding it up.
Only problem is who's Bonham?
Who's bottom?
This is a sports illustrated story.
And, huh, the Bonham Trophy is named and modeled after Alamo battle hero James Bonham.
It was commissioned in 2013 by former Texas Governor Rick Perry and Ben, South Carolina Governor
Nikki Haley.
So Nikki Haley and Rick Perry commissioned a Confederate statue because the Alamo was a battle
with the Mexican Army, Santa Ana, because of slavery.
Now y'all see what these white supremacists are trying to do.
They are angry.
Trump and Matt, they hate history because they believe in his story.
And that is a fundamental problem.
And what they are going to try to do, Michael,
is they are going to spend the next three and a half years desperately trying to rewrite history.
We're going to see a farce of history next year when the United States celebrates its 250th anniversary.
They're going to be promoting lies.
I'm not calling them falsehoods or mischaracterizations.
I'm calling them lies.
And them attacking this premise right here shows you how much of a liar done on
Trump and these idiots in his administration really are.
Yeah, absolutely, Roland.
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Connected DDoS, this is a continuation of what Trump did in the first administration,
except it's getting, it's even worse now.
Because remember in this first administration, he tacked the 1619 project.
He created the 1776 project.
He brought together those historians to create that.
And he also signed that memo that banned critical.
race theory in training for federal employees.
That was September 2020.
That's what really kicked off that anti-critical race theory movement.
But what you're saying is spot on, and I read the piece from the independent that talks
about this.
Trump advisor leading Smithsonian Review says DC Museums place over emphasis on slavery, and they
talk about the Texas Revolution here in this piece, and they cite the Texas Historical Association.
And they say the Texas Historical Association considers slavery, which formed a key part of the then Frontier Territory's early economy, quote,
an underlying cause of the struggle, end quote, with Mexico, which was pushing to abolish slavery at the time.
And in Mexico, actually, about slavery in 1829.
So when they set up the, when they set up the Alamo, and they set up that settlement, they, the U.S. had slaves in violation of Mexican law.
And they were fighting to preserve that.
Now, what was lost on a lot of people, because when I was a little kid, you know, I saw the movie, the Alamo with John Wayne, and, you know, they portrayed Davy Crockett and things like that, and Jim Bowie.
They really don't talk about that in that movie, okay?
No, they were fighting to preserve slavery.
So this is the nonsense.
This is the white supremacist, white nationalist, white Christian nationalism that they're pushing, and they attack history, okay?
They're attacking history.
at the same time attacking voting rights.
Because if we can limit your understanding of the past
and restrict your ability to vote in the present,
then we can control the laws and policies of the future.
This is exactly what they're doing.
This is why your show is so important
to educate them to fight against this nonsense.
Of course, Matt, what's hilarious here.
is they're so angry at facts.
They're so angry at historical representations.
And they want to lie.
And again, Texas Independence.
That's why every year when Greg Abbott and Dan Patrick is posting,
Hey, Texas Independence Day, and then I then post,
Hey, it's Happy, we love slavery day.
because that's what because guess what when texas got when texas gain is independence guess who stayed slaves
not the white people hello yeah and it it's deeper than that i mean obviously you and i are both
native texans we both took that seventh grade history class i think your uh you know your text for
that class was on papyrus might not have been bound mine was in a book but that's just because we're
you know different no actually actually actually
Actually, mine was in the book, but yours probably had more pictures.
Maybe so.
Because my class, when I was in the seventh grade, we can actually read.
But go right ahead.
I don't know how long you picked it was to make a tablet with a hand.
Yeah, go right ahead.
Nice try.
Nice try.
Go on, Mr. Pictorial.
So I live about an hour from Goliath, right?
And I grew up in Austin, named after Stephen F. Austin, down the road from San Antonio.
I'll probably been to the Alamo 30 times, you know, on field trips and all that kind of stuff.
And I think one of the things that people need to realize is in Texas, mythology is huge, right?
So it's not only that this is not the true history, but a core tenet of Texas culture is lionizing these people and lying about what they did and the real motivations of what they did.
And one thing I wanted to add to Michael's point that people don't realize is Spain actually abolished slavery in Mexico, right?
And then in 1829, like he said, Mexico abolished slavery, but it actually separated Cojula and Tejas, which was what became the state of Texas.
And Stephen F. Austin and his compatriots thanked the Mexican government, Mexican president for carving out for Texas its ability to maintain slavery.
So that shows you that slavery was a fundamental issue.
And, you know, it's exactly right.
And I think what's interesting about that is in Texas, it's not just about slavery where we're dismal.
honest, I mean, people don't realize that the Texas Rangers massacred Hispanic people in the state
of Texas, right? But we don't talk about that. I mean, I know many Texas Rangers, personally,
they are fine law enforcement officers, the ones I've all worked with, have been the cream of the
crop. But the point is, that agency has a very sordid history, but we don't talk about that
as Texans, because that does not fit the mythology that we want to have, which is, you know,
the lone star state and the frontier spirit and all of that. And really, it was about slavery.
think you're exactly right to call it out. It's so important to call it out, especially because
what we're seeing is people try to make tantamount to their culture or their right to have,
you know, some connection to their history. This idea that the actual history that's inimical
to that is dishonest. When we know that the truth is slavery is the reason that they wanted
Texas independence and slavery is the reason Texas was the last bastion of the Confederacy
because that's what they wanted. They wanted slavery.
but that doesn't fit into our mythology here in the state of Texas, and that's why people overlook it.
And, you know, it's back to the same conversation we were having earlier about the White House and the truth about crime stats.
It isn't about the truth. It's about vibes. And the vibes come from telling white people that their country is being stolen.
So you don't have the real conversations about what this country was then and now and what has made it what it is now, i.e. slavery and the attempt to keep it here in the state of Texas.
You know, Roland, tomorrow, Congressman Al Green, your Texas brother, is holding a celebration
of national enslavement.
He called Slavery Remembrance Day.
He introduced legislation, and in 2022, President Biden actually recognized the day.
Of course, the legislation has never passed, and it won't pass now, given the current White
House.
I'll be speaking tomorrow, and I will begin with the event is being held at the U.S.
Capitol.
The beginning of my talk is that we know U.S. capital were enslaved people.
Not only would there be no capital, there will be no cotton, no rice, no bond market.
But see, this is to piggyback on what Brother Mann just said, it's an inconvenient truth
for folks to acknowledge the foundational contribution that enslaved people have made
to this country.
They want to paint us as dependents, but actually we're philanthropists.
We have given more to this country than we would ever get.
And so from that perspective, we have to call the lies again and again and again.
This country would be half a country because some Europeans would have come over from
the other side, the western part of the country, or the Spanish would have come through California
and conquered.
So were it not for enslavement, there would be no United States of America.
And that's what makes the likes, like the man who lives in a house that enslaved people bit.
That's what makes the likes of him squirm.
That's what makes him become so petty to try to go through museums.
I guess he doesn't have excuse by language, but shit else to do.
He's supposed to be running the economy.
He's supposed to be dealing with immigration.
But what he's actually doing is attacking black people, attacking the truth.
They cannot stand the truth.
When you confront them with the truth and topple those putrid statues, they start complaining, make America great again.
I went on the White House.gov website.
I couldn't get it all the way up.
My identity and Jackie today.
But I went on there when you mentioned that letter that he has up there, and it's how a welcome to greatness.
What is the greatness?
When you have people roaming the streets under the guise of law, stopping people, you said you were going to fix it.
economy. He has messed up the D.C. economy because, first of all, you've got the exodus
of federal workers, not exodus, the firing of so many federal workers, and now you have
ICE overrunning the place, and basically many of our restaurants, clubs, et cetera, are closing.
If they're not closing, Saturday night, 14th Street, the young lady told me, she said her favorite
place closed at 10 p.m. Usually it's open. Usually they beg to keep it open after 2 a.m.
Close at 10 p.m. because nobody was there.
This is what this man has done.
He's attempting to destroy America.
If I didn't know any better, I would think that he was—well, he is Putin's best friend.
But I would think that he came here, essentially, as a president, to destroy this country.
Let me say one quick thing last.
It's not just about him.
This man has gone bankrupt.
I don't know how many times.
Who is behind him?
Who props him up?
These are the oligarchs who don't want to necessarily make America white again, because if America
were white again, they couldn't survive.
So white women didn't even know how to feed their children to enslaved women showed them how to do it.
No, no, no, no.
They want to make America white-led again.
See, they don't want, they don't want, and white men.
Let's be real clear.
They don't want black people, Latinos, Asian-Americans, Native Americans, but they don't even want white women.
It's real clear what their agenda is.
It's real clear.
And listen, national media shame on them for Peter Head Seth,
retweeting his
misogynistic pastor
in video where that pastor said
he didn't want women voting
and national media is all silent
all y'all, that is it for us
I appreciate
y'all be on the show today
let me thank Julianne let me thank
Michael and Matt you can get back
to your pictorial Texas history book
all right I knew it was coming
oh hell yeah it was coming absolutely
and and when Michael mentioned
John Wayne in the movie the Alamo
That was perfect casting because John Wayne was an absolute racist and whites of premises.
An absolute racist who did not believe that black people were prepared to have jobs after the Civil Rights movement.
Y'all, Google that shit.
He was a racist.
And that's why I'm always call his punk ass out.
All right, y'all, that's it for us.
Before we go, let me shout out my man.
Let me do this here, y'all.
I'll turn the audio up.
My man Kim has a new single out today.
I told him I'm going to give him a shout out.
Come on, turn audio up.
Come on, audio, guys.
Let's hear it.
So Kim has a new song called Rock with Me.
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So I always show him some love to the homie Kim.
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He's now gone independent again.
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