#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Black Woman Cleared In Parking Spot Killing. GOP PAC Dupes Black Dad. Miss. Eyes 1st Black Senator

Episode Date: September 3, 2026

9.3.2026 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Black Woman Cleared In Parking Spot Killing. GOP PAC Dupes Black Dad. Miss. Eyes 1st Black Senator A Black Florida woman who shot and killed an Army vet over a parkin...g spot will not face charges. A Black North Carolina father whose son was murdered thought he was being interviewed about gun violence.  But Ronald Hayes says he didn't know the people interviewing him were working for a Republican PAC and that his words would be used in a political attack ad against the Democratic gubernatorial nominee.   This November, Mississippi could elect its first Black U.S. Senator.  We'll talk to Scott Colom about him going up against the woman who blocked his nomination to serve as a U.S. district court judge. We'll show you the moment on the House floor when Massachusetts Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley made it a point to point out how Trump's termination of Haiti's Temporary Protected Status may have led to the suicide of 20-year-old college student and Haitian immigrant, Pierre Damas Bel. And the Department of Education has new guidance that would abandon the use of race in school discipline.   Ed-Trust's Director of Preschool-12th Grade Policy will be here to explain what that means. Black Star Network Partner: ChapterChapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and stand alone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don’t directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all of your options. ____ Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Thursday, September 3rd, 226, coming up on Roland Martin on Filter streaming live on the Black Star Network. Remember that black Florida woman who shot and killed an army vet
Starting point is 00:00:38 over a parking spot? She's not going to face any charges. Talk about dirty tricks in North Carolina. A black father whose son was murdered thought he was being interviewed about gun violence. Instead, the Republican running for the United States Senate used the video.
Starting point is 00:00:54 of Ronald Hayes in a commercial. Hayes said, damn that, I'm voting for the Democrat. Man, wait until we explain this crazy. It's a crazy, crazy story. In November, Mississippi could elect its first black United States senator will talk to Scott Colom about him going up against the woman who blocked his nomination to serve as a federal judge. We'll also show you the moment on the House floor
Starting point is 00:01:19 of Massachusetts Congresswoman Yama Presley made a point to point out how Donald Trump's termination of Haiti temporary protected status may have led to the suicide of a 20-year-old college student and Haitian immigrant Pierre DeMoss Bell. And the Department of Education has new guidance that would abandon the use of race and school discipline. Ed Trust's director of preschool 12th grade policy will be joining us. Plus, always something dealing with politics. Y'all know we're going to break this thing down, including a new poll out of Texas that has Republicans worried that Ken Paxton could lose to James Teller Rico.
Starting point is 00:01:54 It's time to bring the funk on Rolla Martin Unfiltered with Black Studd Network. Let's go. He's got... What ever the miss. He's on it. They're racing Mississippi, folks. Cindy Hyde Smith, who is the incumbent,
Starting point is 00:02:56 would be facing Democrat, Scott Colombe, district attorney there. It's going to be a critical, critical race there. But the problem is you've got three folks who are running. One person running as an independent could that somehow cause a split of the black vote. Scott Colom joins us right now from Miles. Bayou, the historic Black Town in Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Glad to have you on the show. Let's walk through here. Significant number of African Americans in that state. Also, people, a lot of people are not happy with Cindy High Smith's leadership. She barely beat Mike Espy in the special election, and then, of course, beating the second time. What is it going to take for you to win?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Thank you so much for having me, Roland. It's really our honor. And you know, you have the lead in the Mississippi's potential before a lot of other people in the corporate mainstream media. So bless you for that. You know, what it's going to take is continue to do what we've been doing. We increased turnout in the primary on March 10th by 90 percent, and that was with hard work of campaigning, going through to all parts of the state, listening to voters, learning their needs and concerns. And then also talking about the issues that matter to voters, the corruption they're seeing that's driving up costs than making them pay more at the gas station at the grocery store, hurting our farmers, talking about the issues they care about.
Starting point is 00:04:10 You know, one thing that I really love about your program is you don't follow into the traps where we're talking about who's up, who's down. You talk about the issues that matter to people. Because when I campaign, I do town halls, people ask me about their health care. They don't ask me about who's running for president in 2020. And next year, 10 million Americans are at threat of losing health insurance. People need to be talking about that because health care and hospitals are on the ballot. And that's what I'm campaigning on. The thing here, again, when we talk about what?
Starting point is 00:04:40 happening. First of all, when you look at the state of Mississippi. The contrast is amazing. You have folks in the state who say we don't want federal folks in our business. But a significant portion of Mississippi's budget comes from the federal government. You got Republicans in that state who say, oh no, forget that Medicare, Medicaid stuff, but if you look at, there's a lot of sick people in Mississippi. How are you connected? Because what I keep saying is that, The problem in many of these southern states is that too many Democrats are not having some real, honest, frank conversation with broke white folk by saying y'all voting against your own economic interest. Well, I'll tell you, Roland, part of the thing is the National Democratic Party has ignored Mississippi for too long. They've ignored Democrats, rural independence, rural Republicans, they've written off the state.
Starting point is 00:05:32 And what I'm trying to get people to understand, Mississippi is not a lost cause, it's a betrayed cause. because you have to reach out and touch those voters. You have to run advertisement that explain to them how they're voting against their interests. You got to do social media posts where you talk about how the beef farmers just got screwed because the president imported a bunch of cheap beef from foreign countries, and our junior senator, Cindy High Prices ain't doing nothing about it. She totally gave me our voice. And, you know, we're making progress on that end.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I was at a town hall in the Gone Triangle area, which is like my home part of the area, Northeast Mississippi. And I had a Republican come to me and she said, I'm self-employed. I was getting health care through the Affordable Care Act. My health insurance went through the roof because the subsidies went away. And you did a Facebook post talking about how those subsidies went away because our junior senator voted for them to go away. And that connected it not for me. And I'm voting for you. I'm telling everybody I know to vote for you because I am not going to continue to allow myself to be portrayed and allow our interests to be put last. So, you know, we got to connect the dots for them and get out and touch people.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So, in looking at the state, and I remember when there was a prayer rally, we covered it for Mike Eps, Mike Espy, and I asked this question of the preachers who were there. And I said, how are you all breaking down the data? I said, because the issue that I always have was that people sort of have this scatter shot, this sort of top-down. down view as opposed to looking at the data. Is your team been breaking down that data and saying, okay, where are the votes? Where are the votes? Where are the counties that we need?
Starting point is 00:07:19 Where are the places we need a very, very high turnout? Where are the places we need to reduce the margins where Cindy High Smith is not winning 80, 20, 70, 30, 60, 40, but maybe it's 55. That's such a great question. You know, one of the things you look at is our last governor's race in Mississippi, we had a Democrat named Brandon Presley. Yep, within 27,000 votes from winning. He could have won that election. Hey, just done a little bit better in Hyst County.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I mean, that one county could have carried them over if he would have been able to get enough people inspiring and motivated, you know, get the people that don't pay attention to politics, interest in his race. And so we are doing the smart stuff on digital, the campaigning, because, you know, part of the problem is too many of our candidates don't campaign anymore. They just rely on 30-second commercials. Now, we're going to do 30-second commercials, but we're not going to just rely on that. We're also going to do a food truck that actually touches those voters, go to the housing projects, go to the shifts at plants at shift chains. Now, I'll tell you about the pastors. We had a very powerful thing happen two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:08:21 On a Wednesday, because of the voter rights decision, let's be honest, that is something that's motivating voters in Mississippi that we didn't have the last time Mike Esprit ran. You know, 350 pastors from all across the state came to the state. Jackson on the Wednesday, I think it was like two or three days notice. And they got a packet from the NWACP telling them this is what you need to take to your congregation. These are the areas where we need to do a little better. We know like, for example, we need to do better in the Gulf Coast. That's the fastest growing Democratic area of the state because you got people moving there. You got people that understand that, you know, we can't have people betraying us. We can't stand this
Starting point is 00:08:54 corruption that's wrong in our country. And so we have this smart with the data. The polling showed we got all the momentum in the world to win. We just need to get my name idea up and we're going to wait. The point that you did make about these black voters in the south. We were there in Montgomery, after the Louisiana versus Calais decision, all roles lead to the south. And we saw significant black increase in South Carolina, their primary, in Tennessee, in their primary as well. And so it's clear black voters have gotten the message. What I keep saying, though, is that what has to absolutely happen, where you have significant black voters, 70% has to be our floor. If our black turnout is 70 to 85%, that's the path to victory.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Because to your point about when the guy ran against Tate Reeves for governor, you know, listen, he could have won. You pick up an additional 6,000, 10,000 here, 5,000 here, 3,000 here. Races are now won by margins. Scott's still there? Scott, you there? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Now, yeah, now in the wind, yeah. The camera froze, we're live now. Go ahead. Did you hear my question? The idea. So, you know, and part of that role is we got a campaign. That's why I'm on a five-day tour. I'm in five areas of the state and five days during town halls everywhere. And I'm in Mount Bayou, Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I'm glad that you announced that this is a historic Mount Bayou. It has so much rich history, one of the first black hospitals that provided care during the Jim Crow area, going to these small communities and getting them excited. And people are telling me, We've never seen a statewide candidate come to Woodville, Mississippi, and actually do a fundraiser, and excuse me, a town hall. And we got to inspire rural voters because, as you know, wrong, there's black voters. There's Democrats all across Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:10:54 They're not just in Jackson or in the big cities. And so touching everybody, everywhere is a part of our strategy. Listen, there are three folks. You're running. Cindy Hasbeth is running. And then Todd Pinkins is running. He's an independent. African-American is polling at 7%.
Starting point is 00:11:11 And I've seen other people say Pinkett should be dropped out of the race, that he could be the spoiler that could keep you from winning. Could keep an African-American from winning. It could keep a Democrat from winning. Have you all had any of those conversations or have you accepted the reality that he's not going to drop out? And so your deal's got to get one more vote to Cindy High Smith. Absolutely, got to get one more vote than Cindy Hyde-Smith. I know people have tried to talk to him and tell me, employers of the race. But for me, I've been focused on doing my part because all the
Starting point is 00:11:45 polling shows, the more voters know about me, the more momentum I build, the higher, you know, we're going to win, right? I mean, because the reality is voters a bit severe are smart enough to know. This is a campaign between election with two choices. Sydney high prices and the corruption and the portrayal that she's allowed are me, somebody who's promising to put their health care first, their wages first, making sure they can afford the basic necessities so they can thrive, putting that first. the more they realize that, the more it's clear that we're going to get 50 plus one. And it's just about getting my name ID up because I'm a first time statewide candidate.
Starting point is 00:12:18 And because of hard work, because of people all across state of Mississippi, people like you giving me the opportunity very early on to talk about my campaign, we've been able to build the momentum where we got a message that's going to reach all voters and we got the resources to put it out there. So for November, is it 50 plus one or is it winner take all? There is a little bit of a lack of clarity on that issue because there. There's some mixed rules about whether there's a runoff or not. We're preparing for all options, and we're doing the legal research necessary to make sure it's clear. But I'll tell you, my goal is to get the 50 plus one in the first round, because I'm telling you, I can feel the momentum on the ground.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I mean, Mississippi is not a lost cause. It's a betrayed cause. And the more we pay attention to Mississippi, the more we realize that when Mississippi does well, the country does well. And the more that Mississippi is ignored, the more eventually the country suffers. The more people across the country rely on the more they rely on Mississippi matters, the more we're getting momentum. We're going to win the first round. I truly believe that. Are you seeing the type of investment from national Democrats that you need? I had Nikki Freed on the other day. She's the chair of the Florida Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I've talked to the sister who is the chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party. I've talked to the chair of the Texas Democratic Party. We've had the Louisiana Democratic Party chair on this show as well. And what is consistent is that Democrats have done an awful job of funding in the South. They've been locked and loaded on these Rust Belt states. And the reality is, when you look at the population shift in this country, that's happened over the past decade, and what's going to be happening literally over the next four years, blue states are going to be losing 12 or 13 electoral college votes after the next census.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And those electoral college votes, they're going south. What are you saying to the Democratic National Committee? What are you saying to the DSCC? Is Senator Chuck Schumer? Are they putting money behind your race? And are these national donors believing that you can actually win? Well, I'll say this. You know, I've been blessed to get support earlier.
Starting point is 00:14:26 There are a lot of candidates got. I mean, Senator Espy, I mean, excuse me, Mike Esby, I think if you would have got support earlier, he had a really good chance to win that. you got to support too late. But people like Senator Warnock, Senator Lisa Blountearnchester's campaign with me this weekend, you know, send a White House.
Starting point is 00:14:43 There are some people, Senator Oswald's came down a campaign. There are people that believe in Mississippi understand that we have to matter. But the way I would say it is we should get more support. There's no denying that. I mean, in this moment, rolling, we got two groups of people in the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:14:57 We got people that want to tread water. They just want the path, the least resistance, to get to the majority. and that's all they focus on, right? And then we got dreamers. People that believe that our party can be a part that represents all parts of the country. People that believe that you can't ignore a place like Mississippi with 38% African Americans who vote 95% Democrat.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Like, if you ignore a place like Mississippi, you're not actually trying to compete to be a national party. And so I'm a dreamer and I'm happy to be with other dreamers. and anybody that wants to dream of America that the Democrats can absolutely represent the whole country, you've got to believe in a place like Mississippi. Boots on the ground are important. And listen, traveling across this state, how are organizations,
Starting point is 00:15:46 how are you working with organizations to be places where you cannot be? And again, what I keep saying, folks, is elections are by the margins. When you start, if you go back and look at the music you love, I heart radio. Your favorite radio stations. Everywhere you go.
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Starting point is 00:16:22 I heart radio. Everywhere you go. Always free. Download the free. IHart Radio app today. those two losses by ESP, you can actually see, frankly, listen, there was a lot of black folks who didn't even vote. But if you look at those pockets, the reality is, are people touching those folks?
Starting point is 00:16:43 And so how are you working with groups saying, hey, I don't need all y'all coming to Jackson. I don't need, you know, I need y'all hitting this rural town, this rural town, and looking at the number of registered voters in those places? I'll tell you, Roland, we're absolutely working very well with all the partners. You got the Mississippi NWACP, Derek Johnson, the former state president, now the national president. He's got infrastructure down here with people like Charles Taylor, the executive director. Fairfite is in Mississippi for the last few years. They're organized and making sure we knock on doors, making sure people know about, you know, that they got a register by this day,
Starting point is 00:17:24 assignee is by this day. We're more organized in Mississippi now. that we've ever been. And it's not about me as a candidate, honestly. It's about the people of Mississippi in understanding their importance of this moment. We really cannot lose, Robin. We cannot. Because if we lose this election and then we're going to have partisan gerrymandering that's going to take away the power of African-American voters in Mississippi to pick the voters of their choice. People like Terry Reid have already told us they're going to try to pick the leaders for the voters in the Delta. And so we have to win and then we got to end partisan gerrymandering because
Starting point is 00:17:57 But otherwise, Mississippi is going to be a state where people try to take it backwards and rather than a state that can reach its potential. Absolutely. I got panelists. They got some questions. Dr. Avis Jones-Deweaver, host the Fearless Politics Podcast, joining us from National Harbor, Maryland. What's your question for Scott Columbia?
Starting point is 00:18:15 So, you know, I've been really excited about your race. I agree. The Democratic Party for too long has ignored the South. But there is a lot of potential there, as was mentioned. What are you, what is your team doing to get other organizations? like black organizations involved with coordinating efforts to really maximize the black vote because as you've alluded here today, that's a great gym that if we can get it to really maximize its impact, not just in the urban areas, but in the rural areas. That could be a great boost to your campaign. Well, I know that there's a lot of groups that are involved in Mississippi. Of course, with the FEC rules, I can't coordinate or know what they're doing and I can't direct them. But I do know just from being on the campaign trail, I'll always. their campaign and there's voter registration going on like we've never seen in Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I mean, I go to Walmart and people ask me in my registered to vote and they realize I'm Scott Colon and they start laughing, you know. And so we, I know the NWCC is doing the work. I know Fairfite is doing the work just because I'm just out there in the community. But we're getting more, like I said, we're more organized than we've ever been. And we have infrastructure. That's one of the things that, you know, there's a kind of a misperception out there that Mississippi doesn't have organizations.
Starting point is 00:19:27 We've been organizing for a long time. Mississippi. People like Congressman Thompson, boots on the ground. The absolute king of boots on the ground has never done a TV commercial, not one in 30-something years. He believes in going out there and campaigning and touching the voters, and those are the same values I have. We've got to actually touch people and be organized. So we are organized. Thank you for your question. Reverend Sean Nicole Gladden, CEO of Good to the Soul LLC. Hello, Mr. Colon. Thank you so much for leaning into this concept of dreaming. I know from history that Mississippi has heard a lot of invitations to dream. What is it about this moment
Starting point is 00:20:06 and your candidacy that people should be able to have a renewed interest in accepting that they too can have a dream? I'll tell you it's because I'm centering the voters, you know, and I'll tell you a story of what I mean by that. I was at a restaurant, eating dinner, and I had the waitress come up to me. He was like, like, you're Scott Cologne. I'm not a celebrity, though. I'm happy to see you tell me about this. And he said that I started following you on social media. And what I love is that you ask voters what matters to them.
Starting point is 00:20:41 You center the voters. You have normal, regular people on your videos talking about what matters in their life. And he told me you're going to be the first person I ever vote for. Because you're the first person that made me believe it was about us and not there. Go. Dr. Grayne Carr, Department of African-American Studies at Howard University. Thank you back on my issue. Thank you, Roland, and thank you. And thank you, and thank you, Brother Colon. It's really a beautiful moment for us to be in conversation again with you. I was reading Mississippi today late last
Starting point is 00:21:16 week, and it made the point that you made earlier in the Presley versus Reeves race of 23, comparing it to the presidential race of 24, and it said, if you could pick up just maybe 27 to 30,000 more votes than you then there were people voted Democratic in the 24 election with this kind of all cycle, a midterm election. You could do it. And they identify five larger counties, Heinz, Raskin, Harrison, Madison, and DeSoto. Now, while you're winning a statewide campaign, how, what is the factor, how do you factor in targeted counties like that, Heinz, of course, Jackson, how do you factor in that targeted kind of get out the vote campaign, even, as you're running statewide. And would that be enough that you think if you just increase,
Starting point is 00:22:02 if you use the 23 election as the baseline, if you could just increase maybe 30,000 more votes, you could take out the Littlis Rebel. Oh, absolutely. And, you know, part of that is strategy with paid advertising. You know, you got to be strategic about where you put your, your TV advertisement. I'm a big believe in digital advertising because you can actually, you know, coordinate that and specify in the way where you reach the management. maximum amount of voters. And so like the Soto County, you know, the digital media is going to be important. And there's a lot of African Americans movement through the Soto County that are going to be
Starting point is 00:22:36 Scott Colon voters once they find out why I'm running. And so, you know, being smart, but I also believe in knocking on doors. I truly believe you got to knock on doors, you got to go to people where they are. So we're going to do, you know, hundreds of thousands. We're going to knock on hundreds of thousands of doors. We have the infrastructure to do that. Like I would say earlier, I got other organizations that are very motivated, very organized. and, you know, I trust that they're going to do their jobs,
Starting point is 00:23:01 that they understand their importance of this race. And the last thing that I'll say is that we also can't forget about those rural areas because, as Roland said at the top of the show, some of those margins could be made up just getting people in Mount Bayou to care about this race. So that's why I'm not going to skip out on doing the town hall in Mount Bayou. How dare I run for United States Senate in Mississippi and not do a town hall in one of the most famous African-American city. in the history of our country.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Oh, absolutely. And again, to your whole point, you have to run everywhere. And one of the things that we have consistently said is that, again, everything I talk about Sky on this show is micro macro, micro two macro. And too often, when we're having these conversations about voting, it's always macro, macro, macro.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And I'm like, no, a collection of small votes just like a collection of small or small checks also ends up being big. And I think a lot of people, a lot of candidates, yeah, they listen to these consultants, consultants who are not from these states, who don't know these states, and they're just coming in. And so I'll ask you that.
Starting point is 00:24:19 You know, again, so the DSCC ain't putting no money. You know, this is right here. I just saw this here. Mississippi today had this story out August 12. U.S. Senate fundraising committee, Leads Mississippi, Colom, out of the $40 million push. And so, listen, I need our people to be asking some questions of Kirsten Gillibrand of New York and Chuck Schumer about that. But the thing here is, so you have the advantage of having Mississippi folk running your campaign who know the state. And I think one of the biggest problems with a lot of these campaigns involving black candidates is the DSCC,
Starting point is 00:24:58 sends in white consultants who don't know the state. They forced them to hire communications directors who don't know any of the media markets. They've got no relationships. And so when somebody calls, they don't know who the hell is calling. They don't know that pastor. They don't know that particular leader.
Starting point is 00:25:15 So they kind of like, oh, so-and-so call. And this is no lie. When Sherry Beasley ran for the United States Senate in North Carolina, they had some black woman and called me who was in communications, and she literally asked me, could I send her some details about my platform?
Starting point is 00:25:35 I was like, now, Scott, I don't, I don't, I don't assume everybody black know who I am. But if your ass working in politics, your ass needs to know who Roland Martin is. And I hear Sherri Beasel, I said, who the hell is a little child y'all had called me? And this is part of the problem in a lot of these campaigns.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It's hilarious. It's so true. And, you know, for me, I was blessed because I ran for district attorney when I was 32 years old in 2015, I guess a 30-year incumbent in a district that people told me I had no chance to win, you know. And the person who believed to me initially was Congressman Benny Thompson. And he kind of schooled me to the game about making sure that your campaign is rooted in Mississippi values, Mississippi strategies, and Mississippi people. And so when I ran for the United States Senate, I made it very clear that, you know, my team is going to be full of people from Mississippi that understand Mississippi voters, you know, my political directors from Mississippi, my whole digital team from Mississippi. I'm so proud of because we're really doing some cool stuff on digital. And then, you know, people that are not from Mississippi have to understand that they work for us. We don't work for them. You know, they haven't won't want to tell race in Mississippi. I have. So I'm going to do, you know, what I think needs to be taken down to win. I'm not going to listen to the people.
Starting point is 00:26:58 who never won a race in Mississippi. There you go. Just a couple of more questions. Uh, organizations, nonprofits cannot endorse, uh, but I take it, uh, it's a whole bunch of black and old goal working on your campaign, right? The political, the PAC, the APA did endorse me. And I'm so proud they donate to the campaign. And of course, you know, oh go, black is with their friend.
Starting point is 00:27:24 And we've been, but the whole D9 has been positive, supportive. NWCP, we've been great. And people understand the stakes. And so I'm proud to be, I'm honored to be fighting in this moment. I'm really honored to be fighting in this moment because it's a very important moment. And I know I'm going to give everything I have to win this election because the stakes are incredibly high. Well, I've had, I had some folks calling me the day wanting us to be in different states
Starting point is 00:27:51 when it comes to doing our show in town halls. And so I'm literally putting together our whole map. in terms of where we're going to be broadcasting from. And so, and this is one of the reason why I also tell folks to support our show, because we plan on hitting at least seven states. And so we'll look at dates and things along those lines and about doing, taking, bringing Rolla Mart unfiltered and doing a show there in Mississippi. I'd be so honored to have you, man.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And we can do some cool stuff. We're going to have some really fun stuff the last three weeks. I don't want to get ahead of my. myself and my campaign manager get mad, but I'll tell you, the last three weeks, we're going to have a lot of fun. We're going to do some cool stuff that people haven't seen before because, you know, I got to take advantage of the fact that I'm a younger person who run up United States Senate. So I'm going to do the stuff that will get my attention. And so that's what I'm going to do to win this thing. And so we're going to bring it on home. All right then. Well, again, I'm putting the map together. And so we'll work on
Starting point is 00:28:51 dates and stuff like that. Frat, I appreciate it. Good luck. Let folks know. And listen, you here and talk for 30 minutes and not one time that you give your website. So you got to at least, I'm just going to give you a lesson. You've got to at least work your website in. It's like a preacher. You got to work it in at least three times. So folk know how to give and also volunteer. So go ahead and give it.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Scott cologne.com, Scott cologne.com, Scott cologne.com. Thank you so much, God bless you, man. I appreciate it. Thank you, Mr. Ticketts, though. All right. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:29:26 That's Scott Cologne. We still appreciate it. Thanks a lot. I'm going back to the panel here. Greg, this is a perfect example of how small-minded these folks are. When you look at this story here, and what it basically says is that the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, the fundraising group is sending money to Alaska, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Maine, Michigan,
Starting point is 00:29:58 North Carolina, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Texas. You've got Scott Colon running there in Mississippi. You've got Charles Booker running there in Kentucky. But if you look at the polling numbers there in Mississippi, this is a tight, tight race. And it just boggles the mind that, listen, you're putting $40 million. So you're telling me you can't even see in $100,000?
Starting point is 00:30:28 to Mississippi. This is why Democrats keep losing. They refuse to make investments. And we were discussing when Nikki Freed the other day, I said this numerous times. An investment today does not necessarily mean you're going to win in November. But an investment today helps build infrastructure that could mean you win in 2830-32. Yes, you're right, of course, but it also depends on who we mean by you. Again, quote, Neely Fuller, you understand white supremacy, everything else you think you understand, lonely confused. Democratic Party is soft white nationists.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And unfortunately, too many of the people who are African descent in the Democratic Party have been bought out, bought off between donors and whatever other interests. And thank you, by the way, for the very clear getting with Bacari. sellers earlier this week on this subject, particularly as it relates to Florida. The beauty in this, and you know, is Dr. Davis said, you know, engaging these entities, Black voters matter, all the other groups that don't have a party affiliation, I think is the way to go. We learned a lesson, of course, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago, with family We're Hamer in the Mississippi Freedom Democrats. We're using the parties as delivery systems,
Starting point is 00:31:54 as you often say. I think you ignore the Democratic Party because there are too many soft white nationalist elements, too many elements beholding to donor bases and billionaires and millionaires and one issue entities. And you do the work on the ground. What Benny Thompson told Brother Colon is asked the accurate and make it run on Mississippi values. And you ignore all the noise. The littlest rebel, as I call Cindy Hyde Smith, is an embarrassment of politics, but her base is a white nationalist base. If you can gin up excitement, if you can hit the issues, And what he just said, that was the SNCC strategy in Mississippi. You go in the community.
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Starting point is 00:33:06 You set out that work. They're not investing because their long range strategy does not include our people and doesn't include anyone other than their donor base, their consultant base. And so they're going to get that money whether you win, lose, or draw. When you ignore the party, two things are going to happen. Number one, they're going to make a lot of noise. Shout out to Akeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer. they're going to make a nod of noise about what they don't support because they're reassuring the donor base.
Starting point is 00:33:31 They're reassuring the consultants. They're reassuring the people who don't have our interests are. The second thing that's going to happen when you ignore them and do the kind of work that we just heard laid out today by Brother Colon is that you win in spite of them. And then you capture the party. So I think this is the wave, not only of the future, it's the wave of the present. Let them spend their money wherever to hell they won't. In fact, that they will come when there's a reckoning. But at this point, not arguing with them for five more dollars, because with their dollars,
Starting point is 00:33:56 comes there attempt to temper you, to slow you down, to ask you to change your message. Just ignore them and do that work. That's what the lesson we get from Fahamah, and that lesson applies today, I think. Listen, I totally understand Avis folks wanting to run. But, you know, what would you say to independent Tai Pinkins? He's, he's trailing badly. Again, you know, this poll here says, after the bios, Colomis Taver-His Abbot, this was done by data for progress. It says, knowing what you know know now if the November, 2026 January election for U.S. Senate were held tomorrow, and these were the candidates, who would you
Starting point is 00:34:32 vote for? Kloom 40%, High Smith, 40%, Ty Pinkin's 13%, not sure, refused, 7%. Would you tell Pinkins, bruh, drop out? Absolutely, yes. Sit the hell down. Go somewhere. Do something else. You're not going to win, bruh.
Starting point is 00:34:51 What the hell are you doing? Okay. And this is the lesson with regards to the Debbie Wasserman Schultz victory. You had a too many people in that damn race, okay? So you know you can't really be that upset that she won when you split the the black vote up for four different times. You know it's just crazy. At some point people need to be less self-interested and think about what is best for the people that they claim that they are running to help. And so you know right now we are in a point where there is a unique opportunity here.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And I see what the DS, you know, CC is doing. They're looking at the map and they're saying we need four places to, we need four flips, basically, in order to take over the Senate. And they are really focusing like a laser in those areas. But I agree. When the polls are looking this close and on the other side of the spectrum, when you have a unique situation where the Republican president is this unpopular everywhere, including Mississippi, you know, Trump has is negative in his polling in Mississippi of all freaking places.
Starting point is 00:36:03 This is a unique opportunity. So in unique opportunities like this, and when you have a neck-and-neck race like this, it makes sense to really be able to seed the ground there. I do believe that they are looking at Mississippi for future cycles. But to your point, the Democrats have a bad habit of not. not investing in areas long term. They work election cycle by election cycle instead of investing long term to get what they ultimately want. And if ever there was a place that they need to invest right now, clearly it's Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Mississippi definitely needs to be on that list. The thing that's crazy to me, Sean, is that when you look at that gubernatorial race, the Democratic candidate almost won. He almost won. And so if you're Chuck Schumer and Kierston, Jillibrand, what the hell are you doing? Yeah, almost doesn't count.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'm an AME and I'm an A-K-A. And so one thing we know how to do is win elections. We know how to organize the bloc, educate the voter, mobilize the base, and then let the math catch up to the movement. But for so frequently and for so long, the Democrats, particularly, as you say in the Southern States, it's about the self-interest of the individual candidates that gets them caught up in cycles of really,
Starting point is 00:37:27 really shooting their own self in the proverbial foot. I hate to use such violent language. But if I remember when I ran for school board back in Marion Grant County, Indiana, and the Black Baptist male pastors all convened to make sure that they made sure that the vote was not going to go in the favor of the black female pastor, all the while the whole goal was to try to make sure that we got a black person elected into the office. They split the black vote. And that happens so frequently that we get caught up in personality politics.
Starting point is 00:38:00 We get caught up in this space where we try to say, hey, if it's not my person right now, I don't really care about the outcome. And that is what does a disservice to the people on the ground at the end of the day. Folks, again, I don't know how many times I can say it, y'all. We have to turn out. Black people in Mississippi listen to me clearly. y'all can do this y'all can do this
Starting point is 00:38:30 we shouldn't be talking about oh man 60% black turnout 65 no no no no we should be seeing harrow-washington like numbers in mississippi 85% I don't know who to 15% were in Chicago but 85% of eligible black voter
Starting point is 00:38:54 in Chicago voted for Harold Washington. Scott Colon, get those kinds of numbers, he'll be the first African-American elected statewide in Mississippi since that racist constitutional convention in 1890. But it don't happen if we stay at home. I'll be right back, Rolla Mark unfiltered on the Blackstone Network.
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Starting point is 00:41:42 Folks, in Missouri, the Missouri Supreme Court has blocked Republicans and their new map. You might remember, they wiped out the congressional district of Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver in Kansas City. They wanted to make their map be a seven. Republican one Democrat map, but the Missouri Supreme Court said, no, that cannot move forward, that it must remain for the election, the 7-2 map. That's all, that's because they ruled that the state constitution allows the referendum on congressional redistricting meant to be put on the November ballot, meaning they couldn't just change it. This here is the, from the, let me one second.
Starting point is 00:42:43 This is what from them. This case involves a straightforward question of law. Does the Missouri Constitution permit a referendum on a congressional redistricting act passed by the General Assembly? There is no dispute the referendum petition seeking a referendum on House Bill 1 was timely filed. Likewise, there is no dispute the referendum petition has the number of signatures required by the Missouri Constitution. The only issue is whether the Missouri Constitution authorizes the referendum petition as a matter of law. That means that Republicans cannot enact that new map. Let me know, y'all, I just called Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Let me know when we have him on the phone. This obviously is huge. You know, the reality here, Republicans, this was a part of their nationwide germanding effort. They stole the five seats in Texas. Then they made the changes in Missouri taking one of the seats. They made the changes in North Carolina. You saw what happened in Florida as well. And so you had these battles that were going on.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And what was so crazy about the Missouri case that the Republicans literally said to the Supreme Court that they would defy the law. They would actually defy the courts. I mean, the justices of Missouri Supreme Court were like, do y'all hear what y'all saying? That's literally what was going on. Looks like we have, do we have his audio straight? Okay, let's go live now to Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Congressman Cleaver, can you hear me? I can. This ruling just moments ago coming down from the Missouri Supreme Court saying the Republicans cannot wipe out your congressional. district and it holds that it will be a seven to two map folks will be voting on in November your thoughts all right looks like okay is you there oh man we got some can you hear me hey so so control room do this here don't do video with the congressman call him back using FaceTime audio that way it's a much better what's you're doing with audio so hang up don't do video do FaceTime audio and then just
Starting point is 00:45:12 get him on we'll just have him talk we don't need the video that way an unstable signal, it'd be better with audio, okay? But this really is a huge decision coming out of Missouri. And again, this was the map right here. This was the map right here. You see that second district right there. You see what they wanted. They wanted to wipe out.
Starting point is 00:45:36 So you see the two blue seats. What you have in, you have two seats. You've got Wesley Bell in the St. Louis area. You got Emmanuel Cleaver in Kansas City. Republicans decided to target the senior member of Congress there, Emmanuel Cleaver. Well, now they can't do that. They're blocking this map. And so that's a huge, huge decision there.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And Republicans now, they're not happy at all, Avis, because they were really banking on that seat, North Carolina's seat, the five in Texas. Polling data shows they're not running away with the seats there in Texas. Florida, Nikki Fried said they're going to be contesting those seats as well. And so their effort to increase their margins could very backfire because many of these ruby red districts are now somewhat purple. Right. Yeah. When those districts become a little bit more purple, then you actually might be, you might even be
Starting point is 00:46:38 increasing the number of Democrats in office, especially right now when the Republicans are really taking a hit. Once again, at the top of the ticket, you have a very unpopular president, and people are hurting and they want change. My only concern here, though this is good news for now, is that what happens in the future? Because we know with this Supreme Court, they are likely to do everything that they can to undermine black political power. So I'm hoping that this, they don't hear this case. But that is my biggest concern. The thing here, Shonda, and this is what I also kept telling people, why state Supreme courts also matter.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Because when it comes to issues of voting, not everything goes to the Supreme Court. This is why it absolutely matters. Sean, hold tight one second. Do we have Congressman Cleaver? Congressman, can you hear me? Yes. All right, Congressman. I just want to get your initial thoughts to this Missouri Supreme Court decision blocking
Starting point is 00:47:44 First of all, we weren't expecting a decision so quickly that we thought they would possibly give one tomorrow, tomorrow. But the Supreme Court voted unanimously to push back against the effort by President Trump to take District 5 in Missouri. The President personally made the request here in Missouri for them to do this, and I think there was an assumption that everybody, was going to just fall in line. And I don't think they even considered the likelihood that the Supreme Court was going to make a ruling based on the law. And they did. They made the ruling based on law, not skin color and not my political pedigree. And the people all over the country have been flooding us with phone calls and emails
Starting point is 00:48:41 because I think there's somewhat of a shock. People thought that here in the middle of the country that there would be no way that the fifth congressional district, which I have certain 20 years, would be held by me at all. I think the Republican Party was already planning on its celebration. And I thank God, my first word when Wesley Bell called me from, who is a representative from St. Louis down the street, he called to tell me that he had just gotten word.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And my first utterance was, hallelujah. I'm showing right now, I'm showing right now, I'm showing right now. Of these kinds of issues, like most other outlets are not going to do that. So I appreciate that, to celebrate and do my first interview since the decision was Roland Martin.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Well, I certainly appreciate it. And I'm showing right now the front page of the Kansas City Star. They have this amazing photo of all of these people in the well of the Missouri legislature. And it says Missouri Supreme Court blocks gerrymandered map in major loss for Republicans. Hello? Yeah, can you hear me? Congressman, can you hear me? Who's that in with?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Congressman, can you hear me? Billet Barton. Okay, go ahead and pull the video up, okay? Congressman, can you hear me? Christina. Congressman, can you hear me? I got you on speakerphone. Okay, so do this here.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Y'all call the Congressman back. Sounds like he's doing another interview. Y'all let me know when y'all got him back, okay? Because I think what he did was he turned on his camera, we had him just by audio. So y'all worked it out so we can get him back. Just tell him I have two more questions. If we could get him, I just need him for another three minutes.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Shonda, this again, there was a direct attack on the Congressional Black Caucus. They were going after black seats. Congressman Cleaver, can you hear me? Okay, so he's doing another interview. So y'all worked through that. Shauna, this was an attack on the Black Caucus. This is a big win right here. Obviously, you have Democrats trying to hold that seat of Don Davis, who, frankly, he's voting too much like Republicans in Congress.
Starting point is 00:51:15 but they made that a more red district as well. And this is why I keep telling folk, we got to fight with everything. You got to have your lawyers in the courtroom. You got to have people mobilizing and organizing on the ground. Yeah, so Missouri is this large-scale version of what we have going on here in La Plata, Maryland right now, that our town is debating changes to the mayor's authority, including who can call special meetings and who can preside over the council. is very much like, as you have already said, Roland, this national strategy of gerrymandering.
Starting point is 00:51:51 So I celebrate with congressmen that this has, this gerrymandering has been just kind of stopped today. To God be the glory. But what I want to emphasize and what I think you were already hinting at is that every vote, every battle, every race matters. We can't take our eye off the prize because those who are on the other side of history in this instance right now is the Republican Party as we look at this gerrymandering in Missouri. They're not stepping off the gas. So we have to show up at city council meetings. We have to show up at town hall meetings. We have to show up and make sure the people in the room are voting for our interest so that gerrymandering like this does not happen.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Let me know we have the currency back. I know we're still trying to make it happen. Greg, I mean, this is a big difference between this was a unanimous decision. And think about it. Democrats were not happy when the Virginia Supreme Court invalidated that referendum vote where they were going to put it on the ballot for them to be able to change the congressional districts to attend the two. First of all, they had the special election in April, but they invalidated that particular election. Well, here you have with the Missouri Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Court, again, the right was thinking, oh, we got conservative Supreme Court. But these justices were saying, no, we're making decision based upon the law. And I wouldn't be shocked, Greg, that these justices were also pissed off to have Republicans literally say that they were going to violate court orders when it came. Oh, wait a second. Do we have Congressman Cleaver? Congressman, do you there? Can you hear me?
Starting point is 00:53:36 I am. I can't hardly hear you, but I'm here. Yes. I want to, a lot of people thought, they were thinking, oh, this is a right-wing court, we're going to lose, but they rule based upon the law. I keep telling people, this is why we can't ignore state Supreme Court races because they still matter. Absolutely. If we had given up, this seat would be headed toward Donald Trump's column, because he personally got involved in this. And I think there were a lot of people who thought there's no chance that the Supreme Court of Missouri in the middle of the country would vote unanimously that the mid-decade redistricting was wrong and illegal. So we are now, you know, just suggesting we weren't expecting the decision coming down so soon.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And it caught us about surprise, but it's a joyful surprise. Indeed, indeed it is. And so there's still going to be a battle, and here's a piece. I mean, this Supreme Court, they had tough words for the Secretary of State, Danny Hoskins. Well, they said, Canadian women are looking for more. more out of themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are at them. And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast. I'm Jennifer Stewart.
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Starting point is 00:56:06 at the Secretary and all of those acting in concert with him are restrained and enjoined from implementing, using, or mandating the use of the congressional redistricting in HB1 for the November 26th general election or at any other time thereafter. unless and until HB1 is approved by the voters at the November 26 general election and takes effect 30 days after. So even though they made this ruling, the voters of the state could still ratify their decision and say, leave it 7-2, leave it like it is right now. Yes. It's in the hands of the voters. We will be on the ballot in November.
Starting point is 00:56:53 It'll be the fifth district as I won it almost two. And the court, as we understand it, was very tough on the state because the Secretary of State held, just held because he could, the 303,000 signatures. And we did some polling, the Congressional Black Caucus did polling, the Congressional PAC, the Congressional PAC, that should this was unpopular among white, black, Latinos, short people, tall people. The state did not like it because as the guy told me last night on the airplane, he said it was unfair and that he's a Republican and a conservative Republican at that, but he said, I'm voting for you because I don't like what my party is trying to do. And I think that was an opinion that I didn't know at the time, but that is being shared all over the
Starting point is 00:57:53 city of Missouri. All right, Congressman Cleaver. I know many folks are calling you. You've got other interviews you do. I appreciate you making us your first interview since this ruling came down. Well, thanks for what you do, because I think that helps all of us in the country be apprised on what's going on in the country. Thank you. All right, Frat, we certainly appreciate it. Thanks so much. I want to play this before I go to Greg. This was actually the hearing. This is some video from from this hearing and it was just unbelievable to listen to these Republicans in Missouri say, damn the law, damn the judicial rulers,
Starting point is 00:58:33 we're gonna do whatever the hell we wanna do. Y'all listen to this. And I mean, let's be honest, if this had been brought to us earlier, then we could be in a situation where we could be deciding this in time for the primary election. And in Maggert, we've already made that decision.
Starting point is 00:58:48 We've already said that the new map, HB1, would not go into effect as of December 9th if the certificate is sufficient. Three points, Your Honor. If the court only addresses the certificate of sufficiency, the state would put the referendum on the ballot, but it would not change the map. What an extraordinary circumstance we find our way in. You have just heard the state openly announced that they intend to defy this court's ruling in Maggard, that if you find this petition sufficient, the Secretary of State will ignore what you said in Maggard and instead run an election, on something that's not the law
Starting point is 00:59:24 and you told him would not be the law. You know, this court got that Magger decision out immediately. You expedited that decision. You issued it, I think, the same day or maybe the next day. Gave the Secretary plenty of time to understand what was going to happen and what he needed to do.
Starting point is 00:59:41 But he chose not to do any of that. And when Your Honor pushed on the States Council, they have openly told you now that if you find this petition sufficient, they will use, this bill that you told them is not the law. That's what they said in the certificate of, well,
Starting point is 01:00:01 the letter attached to the certificate of insufficiency at page A46. Even if it is ultimately determined, I'm quoting, that a referendum on congressional districting is constitutionally permissible, the 2026 general election must go forward under the House Bill 1 map. Exactly the opposite of what this court said. And that's not just some lawyer saying it. This is the Attorney General saying it as part of the statement of the Secretary of State on sufficiency.
Starting point is 01:00:28 They convinced the trial court to say it on page 837. The trial court held Houch Bill 1 remains in full force and effect for the general election. That is wrong. It is wrong as a matter of law, and it's very dangerous for an election that is but a few weeks away. They're telling you that they're going to run an election on something that is not the law. And if we want to do the parade of horrible things, perhaps Missouri won't have a congressional delegation. Because as we point out in the briefing,
Starting point is 01:00:59 federal law requires us to run this election based on the law as established by the state. That's not House Bill 1. They can't do it. So, Judge, it's an extraordinary circumstance. I understand that it is. But the reason we're here, as you pointed out, is that the secretary has delayed all this. If we were doing this in March or May,
Starting point is 01:01:20 we would have plenty of time to resolve all of these issues. Bottom line, Greg, judges don't like hearing someone say, we're going to ignore your rulings. Unless they're the white nationalist majority on the Supreme Court, there is no law in this country. There is no law in this country. Let me repeat, there is no law in this country if it is not enforceable. So you're right.
Starting point is 01:01:46 They were pissed off, but that isn't enough necessarily. Witness what's going on with the, whistleblower who reported to Richard Blumenthal, Senator Blumenthal, that the United States Post Office is about to stick the middle finger up as they try to steal the mail-in votes and insert themselves with no constitutional authority as some type of election judges to decide who gets to return a mail-in ballot and who doesn't. But in this case, let's remember how we got here. The group, the advocacy group, people, not politicians, Missouri, that's those 300,000 signatures that we just heard Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver talk about. When these
Starting point is 01:02:22 Nationalists redrew the congressional map last year at the behest of Bozo, this organization gathered more than 300,000 signatures to force a veto referendum, which is allowed by the Missouri State Constitution, as we heard. Well, the White National Secretary of State, as we know, Denny Hoskins, received the petition, the 300,000 votes, which, these are certified signatures, should have triggered putting it on the ballot, which is why he said, if we had brought this earlier, we could have dealt with it, he brought the, he took the petition, thank you very much, and then sat on it, refused to certify it because he said it was unconstitutional. Fine. He says it's unconstitutional.
Starting point is 01:03:02 That was a white supremacist lie. This court, and I thank you, referring us to the opinion, I just finished reading most of the 13-page opinion, unbunk, as you said, meaning everyone, said that this white nationalist, the secretary of state, his sole basis for a declaring, the referendum petition insufficient is his assertion that the Mississippi Constitution, I'm sorry, the Missouri Constitution doesn't authorize a referendum on congressional redistricting passed by the General Assembly. As you said, the court ruled affirming the lower court, the district court, that that is not true. In other words, they have the ability to do that. Now, here's where it gets a little tricky for these white nationals, because they've already said they're going
Starting point is 01:03:44 to appeal to the Supreme Court. They don't have a leg to stand on. Why? Because it is, this decision was based on the four corners of the document of the Missouri State Constitution. There are no federal issues. On page five and six, what the Missouri Supreme Court said today, because they, first of all, they said the Secretary of State relied solely on the Missouri state constitution, and they said he was correct in doing that. And then they said, because they anticipated what these white nurses get ready to, they said, quote, the United States Supreme Court has held on multiple occasions, the U.S. Constitution. Constitution permits a state to authorize a referendum as to legislation drawing new congressional
Starting point is 01:04:25 districts. They quote, Hildebrandt, remember that case, Moore v. Harper? In other words, what they said is the feds have no role in this. The feds have no role in this. So it's going to be very interesting. If John Roberts and Alito and that consensual, as Lauren Victoria Burke was saying, consensual man servant, Clarence Thomas, Comey Barrett, Beer Cavanaugh, and Gorseson decided to take this case, It is a naked political grab, and if they do decide to take a case and hear this case,
Starting point is 01:04:53 I am waiting to see just what basis they will use since the Missouri Supreme Court has made clear they have no role in this. When I say there is no law, if they take this case, every time they do something, whether it's Trump is a king, Trump versus United States, he do what he want. Bozo can build his ballroom while this works through the court or the U.S. post office is too early to sue them because the rules have been put in place, even though the damn rules. was announced the day before they announced the ruling. If they do this, they have, they are continuing to shred the idea that there are any laws in the United States. And they're
Starting point is 01:05:26 not going to get what they think they're going to get once the people say, oh, they're no law, word, no law. We're headed toward a car crash if they take this case. I don't see how they can take this case, though, wrong. Folks, more breaking news. The Maryland Supreme Court rules that question three can stay on the November ballot. Question three would allow Maryland voters to potentially approve a new eight Democrat zero Republican map in 2008. Republicans were trying to get that stripped. That now stays on the ballot. Of course, you had Governor Westmore, who was pushing for this, but he was blocked by the Senate President and the Cowards in the Maryland Senate. And then when they finally saw the Republicans
Starting point is 01:06:11 were going after Democrats all across the country, then the Maryland Senate presidents had to wake his ass up and get on board. It was too late for them to change the map for 2026. Now this goes to the voters in November for 2028. This is what's called fighting fire with fire, Avis. Absolutely. And I cannot wait to vote for that. It's a shame that you had the Senate president stand in the way in the first place.
Starting point is 01:06:41 You know, and it's because at the end of the day, um, though it is projected that the Democrats will likely, um, carry the House at minimum, and hopefully the Senate too, the reality is that the margins are going to be much closer than they should be because of all the gerrymandering that's going on all across the country, starting with Texas, but even beyond that, the acceleration of it after the CalA decision. And so we are in a place where we are at a huge disadvantage. So it's a shame it's going to take until 2028 before Maryland can actually sort of add to the corrective action of that. But I guess
Starting point is 01:07:17 it's better late than never. Shonda. Yeah, so I want to remind us that democracy really depends on more than just winning. It depends on whether we can still recognize each other as neighbors whose voices deserve to be heard. When we draw lines or write rules and make some people's voices smaller, we are wounding the very community and very fabric, the very fiber of what we say we desire as a society. As a pastor, scripture teaches us to do justice, to love mercy. and to walk humbly with our God.
Starting point is 01:07:49 So whatever the Maryland voters decide about question three, we got to insist on transparency. We have to treat people with fairness and ensure that the process is not just pieces being moved on the political chess board. Because at the end of the day, we must preserve democracy and the idea of America
Starting point is 01:08:07 that holds on to an ethos of confidence in the laws and the rule of the states that we say we are a part of. That is what God is calling us. to do as an ethic of love and care for this nation that we have developed, we, the United States of America. Well, I'll say this here. I mean, I totally understand that, but damn that, this is about winning.
Starting point is 01:08:31 No, this ain't about no love. This ain't about no niceties. This ain't about no damn democracy. They don't care about none of that. This is about winning. This is about, as Greg always says, keeping the foot on these whitewomenes. white supremacist neck. This is about attacking them in every damn way possible.
Starting point is 01:08:53 This is about making them feel pain. Because the reality is, again, I wrote a whole damn book. I said all this was going down. This white fear. This ain't about, this ain't about no neighbors, about being nice. Let me tell you something right now, okay? I don't like neighbors even come by my house, okay?
Starting point is 01:09:11 I don't need you knocking on my door. I don't need you waving at me. Okay, when I go home, I want to be by my damn self. And my whole deal is, if they got, if there's some Trump waving folk next to me, ain't no way in hell I'm loving them at all. And God knows my heart. He knows I can't stand MAG up.
Starting point is 01:09:30 The bottom line here, Greg, that we got to understand, these white folks are playing for keeps. They want to lock in power for the next 50 to 100 years. They want Jim Crow 2.0. They want to strip black people of everything. They can't stand the three Reconstruction Amendments. They can't stand. The Civil Rights Act of 64, 65, and 68.
Starting point is 01:09:56 They can't stand nothing. And so this is one of those things where, no, it's straight up, no-hose-barred, hashtag team whip that ass. In the courts at the ballot box, and I don't care. That's the only way we can respond. Absolutely. Absolutely. You're right, Roland. I mean... Shana, you keep praying.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Shonda, you keep praying. You know it. Shonda, listen, you... Shonda, you... Shonda, you can keep praying, but you keep praying because some of us, we're going to be fighting.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Greg on head. Yeah. No, I'm going to pray. I'm going to pray as well. I pray to Christianity of David Walker and that turn. David Walker said you go to your slave master and say, are you a Christian?
Starting point is 01:10:43 And the same message, yes, I am. And then you ask the man, Okay, is slavery a sin? And when he says yes, then you say, are you gonna let me go? And he says, no, then David Walker, the Christian said, that man is not a Christian, but in fact, the devil. And God has not only authorized you, but requires you to do everything you need to do
Starting point is 01:11:01 to injure a condition. These people are not Christians. They are in fact the devil. I'm speaking in terms of a theological argument. I don't have a dog in that fight personally. But if you're gonna say you're a Christian, then you had to understand you're battling evil. This is evil.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I love the fact that these devil devils, these political devils have overreached now. Because now it isn't just black people, it's white people who are offended. Roland, I thought it was a beautiful thing there in your home state of Texas, there in Tarrant County at that meeting when O'Hare was not looking at the people testify.
Starting point is 01:11:37 And then last person got up and said, you can look down. In fact, you should look down, because when you look down, that's where we're sending you. You can close all these polling sites. about to knock on it with the here's the quote he said we're going out we're knocking on doors and we're bringing people out and we're telling them where the voter
Starting point is 01:11:53 locations are and we're helping them get there and nothing you can do can stop us from removing you in November by doing what they have done now following their lord and master and understand they can't win an election if everybody gets to vote they have now pissed off people who normally would be like I don't care or yeah I'm white man I'm a vote for the white guy but at this point now what they have done in a combination They have created a situation where nobody knows what's about to happen, and we are in charge of it. When white people in the Terry County showed up at the meeting and like, oh, you don't, oh, you know what? Close them all except one.
Starting point is 01:12:27 We're going to knock on the doors and stay in line for a year. We're about to break your back. In Florida, Angie Nixon, listen, the same Emmanuel Cleaver, who we're glad it's going to stay in the Congress, went down to Florida and campaign for Debbie Watson and Schultz. These bankrupt Negro members of Congress also on a... alert. Because guess what? You got to run every two years. It's better to have you there, but two years from now, maybe we switch you out. In other words, there's a tide coming, and it ain't about elected officials. It ain't about consultants. It's about pissed off regular people who are tired of this. And that's not most people in this country in some places,
Starting point is 01:13:03 but it's enough people to actually do something very different. And we have the opportunity to do that. So, Jermander, all the hell you want. You're about to find something else out right now. Greg was referencing. I think this is the video that Greg was referencing. I want to reiterate with the nice lady before me said. You're fired. Mr. Tim O'Hare, Matt Krause. I guess maybe you're safe.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Mani Ramirez, wherever he is, you guys are out. What could possibly be so important? Mr. O'Hare, can you listen to me, please? Hello? Yeah. Hello? Can you look at my eyes, please?
Starting point is 01:13:43 hear every word you're saying. I want you to look me in the eyes. I want you to look me in the eyes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Look down because down is what you're going in November. So keep looking where you're going. Okay. Because this is what we're doing after this from now until November, whether you cut these places or not, we're going and we're knocking on doors and we're bringing people out. And we're telling them where the voter locations are and we're helping them get there. And nothing you can do can step us from removing you in November. So come November, you better yourself a new job. And to Mani Ramirez, who is not human, you can hear me in the restroom. Vote for Nidia in November.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Listen, listen, there's a reason. There's a reason. See, I need everybody watching. And listen, I look at the numbers. Come on. Hey, I know it's some other shows, and they have 10, 15, 20, 30,000 folks watching live. But see, y'all understand why I ain't sitting here playing around. That's why in West End town, no bullshit, housewives show, no gossip. Yeah, Shonda, we cuss on this show. Trust me. The good Lord, no. The good Lord, no, I cuss.
Starting point is 01:14:57 So, I mean, plus cussing lowers blood pressure. So that's how you don't have strokes. But the bottom line is here. This is why we don't waste time on that other bullshit other folks be doing on their shows. Because this is life and death. I was telling somebody the other day, I said, man, y'all can have all of the sports debates. Y'all can talk about whether MJ or LeBron is the greatest, but you act like Corrine don't exist, Oscar Robinson don't exist, Bill Russell don't exist, Dr. Jay don't exist.
Starting point is 01:15:29 That's all stupid to me. But those are nice, cute, little debates, okay? This is life and death. When you start talking about, you've got a white Republican in Congress who's trying to get a a waiver because he's been three-term chair of the House Agricultural Committee, and he wants to stay on the committee, so he wants the other Republicans to let him stay, and he takes pride in them cutting snap benefits. That means that people who are hungry are really now going to be even more hungry. People have died because of Elon Musk and Doge, and Elon Musk out here is
Starting point is 01:16:07 talking about he may spend up to $100 or $200 million. Well, guess what? Let's kick his ass all over the country like they did in Wisconsin when he spent all that money on that Supreme Court race and that Republican loss. I need everybody watching to understand. This is why y'all got to stop listening to these simple Simons who jumped their monkey asses on YouTube and Instagram and TikTok and Snapchat and all they do is running their miles saying,
Starting point is 01:16:35 oh, man, y'all shouldn't vote. That ain't going to get you nothing. Because you ain't never seen nobody white, Avis. step out here saying, oh, y'all don't need the vote. That ain't going to do nothing for you. They ain't doing a boat. You've heard the chaos.
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Starting point is 01:17:15 Search video podcasts and tap watch. Both of them are the same. No, I keep telling y'all, politics is a delivery system. Politics is a system where you decide, listen, I may not like you, I may not like you. But who do I hate more?
Starting point is 01:17:33 And who I don't like more? Who do I think is going to harm me and my mama and my daddy? And I tell folk, Y'all ain't never ever, and all y'all who called me a shield, all y'all can kiss my ass, because I ain't never self-identified as a Democrat, as a Republican. I don't call myself an independent. I'm a black man who votes. That's how I make decisions when I vote.
Starting point is 01:17:58 This is why I make decisions on who I support. And so, guess what? Some of y'all who say, oh, yeah, you just sitting here trying to get that Democrat money. If they're going to spend $10, $12 billion, I want to have a lot of that money spent on black people. You damn right. But this is a moment where we can start right now breaking down MAGA. If we snatch their power in the House, Avis, and snatched their power in a Senate, if anything happens with Alito and Thomas, guess what?
Starting point is 01:18:29 They ain't pointing no other MAGA person to the Supreme Court. If I'm Democrats, I'm a whole let's some bitch wide open until 2028. and I'm going to say call Mr. McConnell if you got a problem. That's right. And so this is about warfare. This ain't playing nice, ain't playing cute, babies. This is about warfare.
Starting point is 01:18:52 It definitely is. And it's not even an issue of if something happens with Alito and Clarence Thomas. I can guarantee you they are planning to push them to retire within the first, after this election period, so that Trump would have the opportunity to replace them with 40-year-old versions of themselves.
Starting point is 01:19:10 And if you think things have been bad thus far, wait until they put 40-year-old white supremacist right-wing nuts on the Supreme Court to replace. Eileen Cannon, Eileen Cannon in Florida. Boom, boom. Oh, Eileen Cannon in Florida. There you go. And, you know, look at what we've lost so far.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Since they have taken over the court, we have lost the right. to choose. Let me just tell you also, women have died because of that. Women have not been able to get the medical services that they need when they run into complications with their pregnancies, they have died because of that. We have lost access to affirmative action in higher education. I was just speaking to a niece of mine just a few minutes ago who got a full scholarship to law school ripped away from her right after that decision came down. We have lost now, gutted the Voting Rights Act with the CalA decision. Do you think they're finished? Listen, if there's anybody out there, likes their birth control pills,
Starting point is 01:20:09 you better hope they don't take up anything challenging Griswold, okay, with this crazy-ass court, because that'll be the next thing to go. If people keep playing around with this vote, and it's my belief, it is my strong belief that a lot of these people out here who are smacking that nonsense every time we are near an election, and you are right, telling black people
Starting point is 01:20:28 and black people exclusively that they shouldn't vote. I have never heard a white person tell white people not to vote. You know why? Because they want black people to unilaterally disarm. exactly what's going on here and do not take for one second the thought that those folks are not being paid to lie to you they're being paid to convince you that you are wasting your time voting and they're going and cashing those damn checks I bet you they will they're doing that while you're sitting there
Starting point is 01:20:55 and suffering the consequences of what happens when we get these devils to the point that was made previously in office and so absolutely the last thing that we need to do right now. It's to sit here and sort of sing kumbaya. Okay, what we need to be doing right now is getting ready for this fight and the best way to fight in the next few months is to make sure that we maximize our presence at the polls in November so that we can sweep both the House and the Senate at a minimum to mitigate the damage that this devil can do with the last two years that he has in office. And then once we get to the presidential election, we need to get them all the way out. They're not, after what this, this massive ridiculousness that we have all suffered,
Starting point is 01:21:40 there need not be Republican control in this country for generations. With all the foolishness that's happened in the past two years, the last thing that we need to do is to do anything that will allow them to have any access to power for the next several generations. Y'all, this is Judge Eileen Cannon. Trust me, this is who Donald Trump would love to put on the Supreme Court. She is 44 or 45. I know she looks 60. But the reality is they would absolutely love to put her on the court. And see, y'all got to understand. Fox News is running scared.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Oh, they're running scared. Now all of a sudden, you ought to hear them what they're saying about the midterm elections and, oh, how major this is. And the person with the account decoding Fox News on Twitter, she put this compilation together. Watch this. 71 days away from the single most important midterm in our lifetime. and you got to vote like your country depends on it. I think Trump made a huge mistake here.
Starting point is 01:22:39 He's addressing the past presidents and not future ones. He needs to make clear that he is not only the best and what already happened, but will be the best of what will ever be. What will be the most important midterm election in our lifetime, so... He's good at the Tala Rico stuff, because he has a villain.
Starting point is 01:22:57 And listen, he's so engaged. The GOP loves him on the campaign trail because they feel like he's their best messenger. Nothing this man can do right, nothing. In the eyes of the left, you know, forget the borders are done, Iran's no longer nuclear threat. Without a doubt, most consequential and... Most consequential in the history of all world leaders since the beginning of time. This is the most important midterm election in our lifetime.
Starting point is 01:23:22 You better remember, the legacy media mob is not going to tell you all Donald Trump's accomplishments. I watched you out there with the helipad, the ballroom, the whole world. will see that. I've also seen you get out of a golf cart and move stakes that no one else in the world will see. I think it was a T-box and you were out of the cart in the heat, moving stakes. Where does that come from? We don't talk a lot about President Trump's success, and we'll scroll that, but, you know, the media will never do it. He tries to, but, you know, he's only one person. What is the best way for him to effectively communicate that heading into, I think, the most important midterm in our life? Lord, the ass kissing is just unbelievable, but they worry.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Shawna, they scurred. They scurred. And they should be, right? I know y'all are making fun, and I know it sounded like I was offering prayer as some kind of ethereal pie in the sky opportunity. But I really believe in my heart of hearts that the weapon. of our warfare are not carnal, but they're mighty for the pulling down the strongholds. And when I think of strongholds as black people of faith no matter the kind of faith orientation, whether it's Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Christian, we understand that it begins with prayer.
Starting point is 01:24:47 It begins with some substance that is holding us so that we can organize, so that we can mobilize people, that that is why so much of the historic civil rights movement happened in basements of local churches. And it's why even now they are scared because evil runs scared in the face of a power that is greater than it. And I still believe that black people united under the banner of being connected by history and ancestors is moving us in a way that is causing them to know they have to make up these ideas in their mind because the fight is not fair. It is fixed and we are going to win because we are determined to fight. have ancestral blood, we have ancestral heritage, we have a legacy of those who will not lose because, and I'm going to say it again, of prayer, not in a pie in the sky, not in the kumbaya,
Starting point is 01:25:41 but understanding that we have to mobilize and the ancestors are here with us to do it, just like the David Walker that you called on, just like as we think of the legacy of Richard Allen, Absalom Jones, Sarah Allen, you know, all of the women of faith, here and it's time to cause them to run scared as well they should. Another breaking news story, the Supreme Court has refused to put proof of citizenship amendment on the Michigan ballot. The Michigan folks were deciding this and the Supreme Court in Michigan had not even rules.
Starting point is 01:26:16 What if these Republicans do? They wanted the Supreme Court to intervene. Well, Brett Kavanaugh chose not to do so and he did not the application without referring the appeal to the full court, did not explain his decision. decision and the bottom line is this year. They were trying to skip over the Supreme Court. But it's amazing. They love hopscotch, Greg, to get their way.
Starting point is 01:26:41 This time, Kavanaugh said, no, the Supreme Court got a rule for this don't come to us. Sorry, that ain't going to work. That's exactly right. That's exactly right, Roland. That's a great late breaking story because that affirms what we just said about Missouri. There's no federal issue here. Believe me, if beer Kavanaughan. could have referred it to the court? He would have. He had no other choice. Remember, just the same
Starting point is 01:27:05 beer cabinal in the citizenship case, uh, that birthright citizenship case that basically told the Congress, listen, I'm going to avoid the 14th Amendment issue. If you can change the statute, you'll have my vote to snatch birthright citizenship. He's the one, he's one of the ones always looking for a little narrow path. Yeah, that's a perfect story to balance the Missouri one. That's what's going to happen in Missouri too. Thank you, Roland. Absolutely. He had no choice because there's no federal issue there. And they will try all they can to figure out some way to actually make it happen. I just want to give you all some more shenanigans in North Carolina.
Starting point is 01:27:41 A black man says he was duped into using the 2024 murder of his son in an attack ad against Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Roy Cooper. He's a former governor. Ronald Hayes, 23-year-old son, Shamar Hayes, was murdered in Charlotte by an 18-year-old who played guilty to second degree murder in 2025. Check out the ad sponsored by the Senate Leadership Fund, a PAC that supports Republican Senate candidates and his backing GOP nominee Michael Watley.
Starting point is 01:28:11 My son was murdered two and a half years ago here in Charlotte. A coward walked up and got into the passing side of his car, shot him five times in the face. As the governor, Mr. Cooper was allowing his crimes back on the streets. You're giving them a second chance to go out in the street and do the same thing over again. Is my son going to get a second chance? No, he's never coming back.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Mr. Cooper has been in politics for 40 years, and things are not changing. SLF PAC is responsible for the content of this advertising. Now, here's a thing. The prisoner released, the ad reference, was approved in 2021 in connection with the lawsuit filed against the state during the early months of the COVID pandemic over overcrowded prison conditions.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Samar Hayes' killer was a minor at the time of this prisoner release. settlement. He was not incarcerated at the time. The murder he committed in 2024 has no logical connection to the release of other prisoners in 2021. And Hayes has made it clear he ain't voting for Whiteley. He's supporting Roy Cooper. But these are the shenanigans that they always play. All right, y'all got to go to a break. We come back. We're going to talk about education, but also we're going to talk about the story out of Florida. Remember that black woman? That dude was tripping with her over the parking spot. She shot his ass.
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Starting point is 01:32:38 issued a 20-page guidance letter explaining that schools cannot change discipline policies solely to reduce racial disparities. The department says schools must discipline students based on conduct, not race, calling race-based discipline policies unlawful racial balancing. Black students make up about 15 percent of the nation's student population. but represent 35% of students suspended once and 44% of students suspended more than once. The Education Department also opened Title VI investigations
Starting point is 01:33:06 in the two school districts in Milwaukee and Fayville, Arkansas over their disciplined policies. Eric Duncan is the director of preschool 12th grade policy at Ed Trust. He joins us now. This is real simple, Eric, I've been laying it out. This is a GOP war on Black America. This goes right in line with that.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Yes, sir. I mean, first of all, I appreciate the opportunity to talk about this issue. But yeah, to your point, I mean, we've seen this playbook over and over. And I think it's really disappointing that we've continued to uplift this notion of race-blind politics and that there's discrimination against other races if we address some of the structural issues that are facing black students. And I think I really encourage folks to read. Canadian women are looking for more. More to themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are at them. And that's why we're thrilled to introduce
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Starting point is 01:34:27 harmful practices that are affecting black students, where students are not just being overly suspended or disciplined, but are being threatened with going to jail for minor violations or not given any real due process. So to remove this standard to your point, man, it's just another sort of way that this administration and this conservative movement is trying to stop black folks and black children in particular from getting the education that they deserve. Yeah, and what it shows is that, like, for instance, they don't believe in systematic racism, and they act as if, oh, no, these things, they really don't matter when we all know that it's a racial issue,
Starting point is 01:35:10 how black kids are being targeted by largely white teachers and principals. Exactly. And the unfortunate part is we have the data to back it up. So it's not just these anecdotes. It's not just these one-off stories about, you know, know, oh, a black student was treated unfairly. We have the data. And the Department of Education has provided this data so that they can support some of the structural and policy issues that are contributing to black students not giving a fair chance. And so if we're really serious about improving our education system for all students, and in particular for students like black
Starting point is 01:35:46 students who have continued to be locked out of learning environments who have been excluded from advanced coursework opportunities and have been overly disciplined, then we have to address these systemic issues that continue to persist and are making black students feel less safe in their schools, not as engaged, and leading to the academic outcomes that we often see when black students aren't provided that opportunity to be successful. Questions from the panel, Avis reversed. Yeah, you know, so much is going on in this administration that is specifically targeting black students in every way possible. What can parents do to make sure that their children or at least reduce the chances that their children might be caught up in this,
Starting point is 01:36:31 what I would call school to prison pipeline that may be indicative of what you're showing, what we're talking about here. Yeah, unfortunately, this is putting the onus on parents' communities to enforce, to your point, what should be simple, that students should be to feel a sense of belonging. And when they are aggrieved in that way, when they're overly disciplined, when they're subject to racism, blatant racism. Now that the Office of Civil Rights has been reduced, and now that we are hiding data, it's really unfortunately up to parents, community members, who obviously have the strength and insights to do this, but it shouldn't be on them to have to
Starting point is 01:37:14 continue to uplift these complaints, to continue to fight against these systems and structures that are perpetuating this, and are having to basically deal with these issues on an individual basis when in the past administrations and when the way we should be doing this is when we consistently see data that's showing that certain student groups are being targeted, that we address the policies, practices, learning conditions, and environments that are contributing to them. So, yeah, unfortunately, it is now up to community members, parents to continue to uplift these issues and make sure that folks understand how black students are being treated in the
Starting point is 01:37:50 school settings. They're in. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Next up, Rev, go ahead. Yeah, so I wonder, not just lifting up how black students are being targeted, but can you say a little bit about unpacking that carceral system where black students are targeted for surveillance first,
Starting point is 01:38:12 met with suspicion, police referral and things like that, as opposed to restoration and rehabilitative practices being part of the norm? Can you speak a little too dismantling the car, that underlies what it is that we're talking about here. That's a really excellent point. So to your point, the conditions in these schools are contributing to the school of the prison pipeline, right? And students are being treated as threats.
Starting point is 01:38:38 And the strategies to address these black students in particular are punitive in nature. But there have been school systems and there are schools still that are changing their practices from more punitive measures to things like restorative justice practices to make schools more inviting and supportive for our students. And that's honestly, you know, we see the data. Again, we see data that shows that black students are being overly disciplined and that policies need to change and that when policies do change and black students feel welcome and invited and safe in their environments
Starting point is 01:39:13 and have the resources necessary, they're successful. And so to your point, it needs to be less about punishing kids and more about helping their development as, children to be as successful as possible in conditions and in environments where they feel safe. Well, you know, and I really appreciate that. I'm thinking also about how people of faith can do this work. I think about folks like abolitionist sanctuary and Dr. Nakira Roberts and her work. So can you say a little bit more about how at the grassroots level and community organizers, what else we might be able to do around this particular issue?
Starting point is 01:39:54 So being politically engaged, showing up at school board meetings, showing up in environments or places where those decisions are made about how students are disciplined, what discipline codes are present. That's super important. And to your point, the community-based organizations that have really gotten involved at the school level, gotten involved in districts, and help districts to co-create certain policies and practices that, again, are really, really involved. are validating the fact that black students are not threats, that they are, you know, brilliant and incredible students that have the potential when they're in safe and supportive school environments to be successful. So when communities are at the table, are co-creating these policies, are making sure that decisions that are being made about policies that affect the discipline of their students or the way that their students are taught, when they're involved in that
Starting point is 01:40:52 and they're uplifting the success and the brilliance that our black students can have. That's when we've seen the best outcomes when it comes to discipline. Greg. Thank you, Roland, and thank you, Brother Duncan. You know, a old professor of mine used to call a lot of the compilation of facts and statistics designed to perhaps sway opinion and shape public opinion. East College death-watch studies. They're killing us.
Starting point is 01:41:19 This is how many people they killed today. This is what they did last year. It's an increase of 2 percent. And we all remember Du Bois. I know you spent time in Atlanta, Dr. Du Bois saying, I thought the world was thinking wrong about race, but in fact, it wasn't that.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Then when they lent Sam Hose in Atlanta, he said, no, no, they know what they're doing. I guess my question for you is that does Ed Trust, and I read a piece you wrote last year, earlier last year, on the efforts to ban, the efforts to ban D.E.I being a perversion of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Does Ed Trust have, or has it ever talked about, have you ever talked about creating kind of full spectrum mapping, kind of consistent with some
Starting point is 01:41:58 of the things that Rev. Just asked you and some things you talked about in terms of public engagement. You're a former high school teacher, as we know, teach social studies in Atlanta. There were 14,000 school districts in this country, many of them elected. Is there any talk about a more aggressive kind of forward-looking roadmap to how to beat some of this stuff back? Maybe lawfare, because that's totally what Bozo Trump and them do. They just go to court all the time. Lawfare may be forced the courts to respond to this, running for office, coordinating with people who are saying, let's take over these school boards, perhaps even rebuilding as our friend in Philadelphia, Sharia Lemecki and the black teacher pipeline there, rebuilding that pipeline that produced the black teachers that are really the ultimate solution to a great deal of this.
Starting point is 01:42:46 So you can replicate yourself as you used to teach, you in the classroom, replicate yourself to scale. a full spectrum kind of aggressive, full spectrum roadmap to hear the categories and here the things people can do that we could like take with us as a kind of document to kind of shape some of this for a fight back. Absolutely. And I'm really happy that you brought this up and brought up some of the partners that you've worked with and that we've worked with like the Dr. Elmeckis and others in this space. But, you know, this is the time to your point to really try to design, to your point, the
Starting point is 01:43:20 roadmap or the policies that need to be put in place in order for schools to be the learning environments that we need them to be. The schools are having schools that have high-quality teachers that are representative of the students that they serve, that schools have access in all schools and black students in particular have access to advanced coursework opportunities, that they're not locked out of those opportunities, that they're not overly disciplined in a punitive way. And so, yeah, Yes, first of all, the way that this administration has kind of operated, they've operated not even within the law. So there are a lot of things that we are continuing to push states to do.
Starting point is 01:44:01 So this disparate impact policy change, for example, right? There are states that have said, you know what, we understand that this administration is going to remove this from their policy, from their policies and from their posture. They're not going to look at the data in the same way. They're not going to apply to these cases. So we're going to create our own discipline or disparate impact standards at the state level, which states can and should do to ensure that the data that we need to see, that the information that we need to showcase about the structural inequities and inequalities that we're facing shows up in discussions about policies, about the way to set up in structure schools. So we are actively working with partners to try to drive an agenda that helps states. school board members, local decision makers, make the best decisions and pass the right laws
Starting point is 01:44:52 that are in direct response to the policies and the options that this administration is taken to essentially not really regard the law and say we'll do whatever we need to do to uphold this conservative ideology. Thank you. We certainly appreciate it. Thanks for joining us, Doc.
Starting point is 01:45:15 Appreciate you. All right, thank you very much. All right, folks. Can I go to a break? come back. A couple of things. Congressman Yonah Pressley addresses the Haitian young man who committed suicide on the floor of the house and black woman in Florida. She told her dude, you keep rolling up on me. I'm going to shoot you. She shot him. She killed him. She's not going to jail. We'll explain what happened. You're watching Roland Martin unfiltered on the Black
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Starting point is 01:48:19 That's the black woman. Remember she shot and killed a white U.S. Army vet after being aggressively approaching the Florida parking lot, well, she's not going to be prosecuted. Prosecutors announced that Melissa Payne will not face charges. She is protected under the state's standing-your-ground law, making her immune from prosecution. The Broward County State's Attorney's Office released a memo with specific information about the incident and explicitly saying that under various precedents, Florida follows laws under a strong pro-second amendment. On June 30, the 62-year-old Bart de Guadolimo aggressively approached Payne over a parking lot space at a North Laundlea Walmart. Now, she warned him several times that if he continued to approach her, she was going to shoot him.
Starting point is 01:49:00 And she did. And he died. I don't, I mean, what I don't understand is, first of all, you know, it's rare somebody black, Greg, gets, you know, gets to have charges not foul because of staying in your ground law. But this was on, luckily this was on video. And the sister kept saying, don't come near me. and this guy kept pressing, pressing, and she finally shot him. Yeah, this is tough. And I'll tell you why, I have no sympathy for him, although he's dead.
Starting point is 01:49:37 And earlier in the show, you said maybe he placed a call to Mitch McConnell. I'm not sure where that call would have to be forwarded to. I'm assuming they have telephone lines that don't melt under heat. But at any rate, wherever that guy is or isn't, sure, that's one thing. But the reason I say is tough is because we are now at a moment in this. country where the Civil War of the 1860s the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s the conflicts are now reaching the same kind of or similar levels there's a morality play at play here these hillbillies love the Second Amendment until they don't
Starting point is 01:50:12 and in this case yes Florida's regressive violence-oriented devotion slavish devotion to the Second Amendment worked out in our favor but make no mistake about it what the way that sister reacted is the way many black people want to react. In Florida, she had a gun on her hip. In Texas, she had a gun on her hip. And I'm saying that as this aggression level continues to rise, if this isn't handled with a kind of pressure release in the political system, again, voting, you know, civic participation, this kind of conflict, this kind of confrontation is just going to be, it's going to happen more and more and more. And then we enter uncharted territory. I think that's the direction
Starting point is 01:50:55 we're headed in. It's satisfying to see in many ways, but just know that this may be a harboringer of many more incidents like that to come. The thing for me here, Avis, I am not about to sit here and die over a parking spot. Absolutely. I know it's crazy. But, you know, hey, the Caucasity. He thought that he could intimidate her. And the reality is that, you know, she did the right thing. We are seeing a lot more aggression out here in recent years. A lot of people have gotten a lot of hubris under this administration to think that they can perpetrate violence and intimidate and strike and kill black people and nothing will happen to them. We are seeing a rise in hate crime activity and we're not seeing a department that is at all focused on that. instead they are focused on this bogeyman of left-wing terrorism, which we know does not exist.
Starting point is 01:52:01 So in essence, they're given a green light to people who would have very violent tendencies to act out. She did not know if she would be safe. And I'm sure she feared for her life when she shot that shy. It's a good thing that the law worked on her behalf because oftentimes what's good for them is not good for us in the eyes of the law. But in this moment, we have to be prepared to defend ourselves because I think we are already in uncharted territory, at least in recent history, with the level of unchecked violence that we are seeing. Let's talk, I mean, we know that we've had, statistics suggest, 70 plus modern day lynchings
Starting point is 01:52:44 happen in modern day and then modern day era. Recently, black people are just found hanging all over the damn place. We need to be able to protect ourselves in any and every situation, even if it's a very over a park and space. Shawna, they also might want to learn black folk get by guns too. Absolutely. The kingdom of God suffered violence
Starting point is 01:53:07 and the violent take it by force. And so in this instance, it's sad that the gentleman had to die, but we saw the convergence of toxic masculinity. We saw the convergence of plantation logics. We saw the convergence of the cult of Dolemen, the cult of
Starting point is 01:53:25 and anticipated that this woman would just yield to his intimidation, not only because he was white, but because he was a man. And he had to come to the knowledge that Smith and Wesson could present to him in that moment that, dear friend, these logics no longer persist at the face and in the space where we have the right to bear arms and many of us take it seriously in this day and age. I think my daddy would say something like you. You F-O-F-O, F-A-F-O, and that's unfortunate that he did that. He did find out the hard way. Peter and Jesus would agree in this instance, I do believe.
Starting point is 01:54:06 Folks, Matthews, Congressman Yonah Presley, went to the floor of the house, and she raised the name of that 20-year-old Haitian young man who took his life because of Trump and Stephen Miller forcing him to wear an electronic monitoring device on his ankle. Such a sad story. He was in a junior ROTC in high school. He was a star soccer player in college. He wanted to be a neurosurgeon. And now he is dead.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Here's the congresswoman speaking on the floor of the house. Mr. Speaker, I rise for the family and loved ones of Pierre Damas Bell, a beloved son and brother, 20-year-old college student and Haitian immigrant with temporary protected status. He found joy on the soccer field and dreamed of studying medicine until the Trump administration forced an ankle monitor, really a shackle on him and threatened his deportation. Trump's termination of Haiti TPS robbed this young man of his humanity, stripped him of his dignity and inflict the mental trauma that became too much for him to bear. He simply could not go on.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Trump's cruel attacks on our Haitian neighbors certainly will take a toll on our economy and our national security, but also a psychological and emotional toll. Mr. Speaker, no parents should lose their child, no sibling, their older brother. yet Trump is traumatizing communities in every corner of our country. Pierre should be alive today. Falling in love, playing soccer, on path to becoming a doctor. We honor his memory. The music you love.
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Starting point is 01:56:15 Pierre's father's last words to him were, come home because of the cruelty anti-blackness and anti-immigrant policies of this administration which I consider to be un-American sadly Pierre never will make it home rest in eternal peace and she's right Avis it's absolutely anti-black agenda that young man had been bullied at his school he couldn't play because of electronic monitoring and it's absolutely sad a bright future, he's now dead. And this is all because of Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:56:53 and Stephen Miller in their policies. Absolutely. All the while, they're welcoming these white South Africans in, but they are doing any and everything to target communities of color and particularly to rip away temporary protective status from Haitians without having any reason to do so, honestly, and knowing that a lot of, you know, the Haiti, honestly, is not prepared to absorb these people back in a safe way was just cruel. The impact on this
Starting point is 01:57:24 young man's life who had so much potential, who was very serious and hardworking and wanted to create a better future for himself and felt hopeless and felt criminalized by having to walk around with this ankle monitor, it is just completely evil. What these people have unleashed on this nation, and that's exactly why we have to do any and everything possible to get them the hell out of power. Shonda? Every way possible. Chonda.
Starting point is 01:57:55 I don't know how black people are living in this era. I pray for that young man's family. My heart breaks for this story. But black people watching this Roland Martin unfiltered today, do everything you can to refuse with joy. Surround yourself with people who are going to lift you up. because he should be alive. It is absolutely, absolutely evil. Again, a plot of all of the powers of evil in this society
Starting point is 01:58:24 that desire for us to kill ourselves. Don't let us be that case. Greg. Live my brothers and sisters. Greg. You on mute? Oh, I'm sorry, Roland. Yeah, I was listening.
Starting point is 01:58:42 I was agreeing with. I live in deep joy every day. Joy and enthusiasm at destroying white supremacy in breaking the political backs of miscreants, miscreants like Stephen Miller. I don't think a lot about Stephen Miller because he's a little piece of a man. He and his snap nose wife, his breast he grabbed as he ran out of the Hilton in fear, because he's a piece of a man, as is his piece of a wife, woman, his pieces, these are pieces. Most of I'm not really worried about because that awful day will surely come for all of us,
Starting point is 01:59:12 and he probably has less time on top of the earth than most of us do. In terms of Brother Bell, you know, who has been reported that his three-year-old younger sibling doesn't understand what's going on. His younger brother, 15 years old, is quiet and distraught. You know, he was at Wright State. He's the only member of the junior ROTC not to get his uniform because he had that ankle monitor on. What I wish and hope and pray fervently for to my ancestors and to the God I believe in is that every one of these devils get what they have earned. I did not wish bad on them. I did not wish anything on them other than that they get what they richly deserve. And having made that prayer, I then stand up and work every
Starting point is 01:59:55 moment of my life to ensure that that happens. It's a beautiful thing to watch this country convulse and tear itself apart. There will be blood. There will be pain. But remember, we were trafficked here. And because we were trafficked here, and because we resisted, as did the ancestors of Brother Bill and his family, the Haitians, who fought back against an entire, damn world machine army of Napoleon and then defeated them and Spain and in short order told England and United States to stay the F out of our island. At the end of the day, we have proven time and time again that we are enough when we join together to win our victories over these devils. So that's what I pray for and that's what I work every day to fight for. And it's a tragedy,
Starting point is 02:00:38 but let us not lose hope. Let us remember that when we fight, we prevent things like this. So that's all I got to say about at this point. So I'm going to close the show out with this here. And we've told you numerous times. We talked about on this show, Elections Matter. And we talked about earlier we talked about in this show, Missouri Supreme Court. We talked about the Maryland Supreme Court. And we're always trying to get you to understand
Starting point is 02:01:13 what is happening in so many of these races. And what we have to recognize is that, and y'all, you heard of me on the show, Supreme Court's matter. In North Carolina, on the ballot in November is Justice Anita Earls. Go to my iPad. Anita Earls is one of two Democrats.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Yes, that's a black woman in North Carolina. Okay. Right now, Republicans hold a five to two majority on the Supreme Court. Riggs won last year. If Earl's win, they remain five to two. But something happened today, that's important. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is Phil Berger.
Starting point is 02:01:58 He's associate justice, Phil Berger. He, of course, is the one who ran against Sherry Beasley. Well, he announced that he's retiring. Three of the Republican seats are up in 2028. Go to my iPad. This was a letter that he dropped. He said after talking with my family, I decided that I would not seek re-election to my seat as associate justice on the Supreme Court of North Carolina. And so, again, this is huge.
Starting point is 02:02:23 I know I always talk about, don't look at 2028, but here's a key. North Carolina, black folks there, you got to vote in massive numbers for Anita Earls. Because this is why this matters. I need you to understand. Democrats could have had a six to one majority in North Carolina Supreme Court. Beasley loses about 401 votes. They had a four to three majority. The brother who was on a Supreme Court, he ran for another office, got replaced by a Republican,
Starting point is 02:02:52 they're switched, and now Republicans have a five-two majority. If, and as a result, that's how Republicans in the state are able to do a lot of their datchelie things. If Democrats control the Supreme Court in North Carolina, you will see what happened in what happened in Wisconsin. when they rule against congressional gerrymandering, when they rule against gerrymandering in state elections, when they rule for ballot drop boxes. So the North Carolina Supreme Court could shut down a lot of the racist shenanigans of the North Carolina Republican Party.
Starting point is 02:03:23 But you've got to control the Supreme Court first. And so this decision by Berger is a big one. And so again, hold the line this year, protect Anita Earls, reelect her in North Carolina. and then if Democrats take out three of those Republicans in 2028, they control the court. And let me explain to you what happened. When the Republicans took over, they literally reversed several decisions at the North Carolina Supreme Court had made just three months earlier. Oh, they didn't wait.
Starting point is 02:04:02 They reversed it three months later when they took over. This is what I mean by understanding power. And you use power when you can get it. And so I look forward to having Justice Adida Earls on the show. And again, if you're North Carolina, we should be standing up supporting that sister for her re-election. Let me thank my panel. Let me thank Avis. Let me thank Shana.
Starting point is 02:04:27 Let me thank Greg. I certainly appreciate it for being on today's panel. Of course, tomorrow, folks, we're celebrating. our eighth anniversary here on Roller Mark Unfiltered. That's right, September 4th, 2018. We launched our first show. And tomorrow we have our eighth anniversary. We're going to have a jam pack panel in here. Lots to talk about. Look forward to that. And so can't wait. We're going to have some guests here. That's right. And there will be food and liquor here. Y'all know I don't drink, but you've got to go ahead and serve these black folks. You know, they whiskey and they Hennessy
Starting point is 02:05:01 and whatever the hell else they drink. So that'll be tomorrow. Right. here on Rolla Martin Unfilter. So we look forward to it. Can't wait. Greg, are you joining us tomorrow or are you are you are you are? Okay, cool. So we'll, we'll, we'll be there. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 02:05:17 We'll have your orange juice or cranberry juice. Thank you. Because you know, that's the same thing I drink. I don't drink. I don't drink at all. We'll be drinking that in the corner. There you go, precisely. All right. So look forward to that tomorrow.
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