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Rudolph Kensington Memorial Classic, which benefits scholarships with students here in South Carolina in the
cis congressional district.
We'll talk to him a little bit later in the show.
Coming up on today's show, research of a family history landed her in federal custody.
That's right.
We'll talk to a woman who spent two weeks in custody for refusing a judge's order to sign away
more than 1,300 acres of our family's land,
been to their family for generations.
Also, the Trump administration is doing a dumb decision
when it comes to Medicare and Medicaid services,
ending Part D, will tell, Plan D will tell you all about that.
Mississippi has completed Nolan Wells' autopsy,
but has not publicly released it.
And also, I'll show you the body cam footage.
There's a Texas family of an on-on-black team killed by police
saying that he did not die by,
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On the Black Star Network, let's go. Hey, folks. I am here in Santee, South Carolina.
And what you hear is speaking right now, that's Congressman Jim Clyburn. He is addressing the folks
here. This is the opening reception and the pairing party for his 36 annual golf tournament.
It benefits scholarships for students here in the cis congressional district, providing them laptops and iPads as they go.
off to college. We'll be chatting with the congressman a little bit later. Of course, he is excited
that South Carolina is going to remain as the lead when it comes to Democratic selection
for their nominee in 2028. So we'll also talk to his daughter who's over this tournament.
Plus his other daughter, who used to be an FCC commissioner. Well, we're talking to her about
the Trump administration's attacks on broadcasters like ABC. So lots of we're talking about
here from South Carolina. But first, let's talk about Mississippi. Folks,
Amanda spending two weeks in federal custody.
After refusing to sign a court-ordered deed that will relinquish your claim to more than 1,300 acres of land that your family can trace back nearly two centuries.
That's what happened to Janine LeBouzahn.
While researching her ancestry, she discovered documents showing that her third great-grandfather, Charles Augustine LeBouzon, a native of New Orleans, had an interest in 1,361 acres in Washington.
County, Mississippi. Well, she was determined to reclaim her family's land and she has faced a number of legal challenges.
Janine joins us right now from Athens, Georgia. Deneen, glad to have me on the show.
Thank you for having me.
First and foremost, when did you find out what a year was it about this land and that it was in your family?
Walk us through that.
Okay, basically, I had started just doing my family genealogical research,
and in doing that and putting all of our names together
and building out those family trees is when I came across the land patented titles
that my ancestor had.
And so that was probably back in like about the 2020 time period.
Okay, so land patent title, explain to us what that is.
Okay, so land patent titles are,
are the original, the Elodeo land ownership records that we have in America.
So before we had the warranty deeds and things that we currently purchase property on,
our country was originally given out in land titles.
And so these are land patents, sometimes are also called land grants.
But these are the original allotial title land ownerships that were issued out by the sovereign
government back in the earlier 18, 1700s and things of that sort.
And so these are also forever titles.
So when my ancestors name was included in that title from the U.S. government, it's specifically
stated that it's for him and his heirs forever.
And so that's how I was able to come and reclaim it today.
Okay.
Did your family, was your family once in possession of this land?
and lost it or did your family never actually get the land?
They were in possession of it, and it was probably just somewhere between the first great-grandfather
migrating out to California, you know, back in the day.
I don't know where all of the full information got lost or just put behind, but nonetheless,
it was clear in the records
that no one from my family
or my grandfather's
business partners that were
on the land with them ever conveyed
their interest out to
another party. And so
when you don't have that conveyance...
Yes.
Right? Go ahead.
Go ahead. Go ahead.
So, yeah, so when you don't have that
conveyance from the original
patent title holders,
that's when you have a possibility of a
claim because what that indicates is that someone at a later time period just began to
create warranty deeds on the land and operate although they never did seek that initial
permission from the original title holders that is on record so we know a history of black
folks who have run off their land the clan was repossessing land and
So what happened with your family?
Was the land abandoned or has the land been in your family's possession all these years?
And now they're trying to take it.
So explain that.
Yeah.
So the ownership has been there since 1840.
It's not until about 1919 that different individuals within the Mississippi area, different companies,
oil companies,
insurance companies, mineral companies,
different families.
They just began to operate in and out on the land
from that time period.
And again, I just came back into the full knowledge
of all of the information myself.
As a Californian, you know, my ancestors did move out west,
my immediate ancestry.
And so we were able to, like,
I said, be able to pull all the records up and see that it was in our, it's still in our
full position.
That's why they were wanting my signature on their deeds, which led to that arrest warrant
that I had.
Because we still didn't have a possession of ownership.
So explain, so, so explain that to us, why did the courts order you to sign it?
Why?
What was the rationale?
Are they not recognizing these doctors that you present it?
Yes, I mean, in the long story of the short of the case, I was cheated.
It was a legal lynching in the sense that as we began our initial complaints and back and forth,
my case was dismissed very early, never allowing me my due process of full discovery,
where we could have laid out all of the details and information regarding their position and my position.
So after she dismissed my case, I was personally contacted first by two of the three law firms asking me basically, well, since you lost, would you sign the deeds over to our client?
And of course, I didn't respond.
But then they must have talked to the judge behind the scenes and said, hey, we need you to put that in your order to have her sign the deeds over.
because whether they knew it before I came after the land or they learned in the process,
they saw that the Constitution did protect me as an owner,
and if they wanted to get full, clear title of that land to where they would have possession of the mineral rights,
the airspace, and all the protections of a land patented title,
they needed the signature of an heir to have that full possession.
So she could have just dismissed my case and let it go.
but they didn't want to let me go without seeing if I would sign the land over to them.
Before I let you go, I'm going to let Candace Kelly on the land.
Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Right.
I want to give, before we let you go, I want to give Candace Kelly our legal analyst and host
opportunity to ask you a question to.
Candice, go ahead.
Okay.
Very good to meet you, first of all.
I was very curious about one or two things.
One, was there a question about whether or not
this had passed over and to somebody else in terms of somebody actually buying it.
Was it a bank?
I know that there was a Ford signature issue that you were asking about.
And number two, I'm wondering if anybody has stepped up to you so that you don't have to
represent yourself pro se or perhaps you are not representing yourself pro se anymore.
Okay.
So to your first question, there was a sales contract that the defendants brought in.
I had already pulled all of the records pertaining to this land five months before I even went into the claim.
So that record was not in the books.
I had that pulled by a professional abstractor.
But anyways, it was thrown back into the discussion.
But there was two major red flags, not just the sales contract of 1848 that is highlighted a lot in the news.
This contract was also tied to an 1836 derayment title.
So they presented that with the sales contract, although that doesn't get highlighted,
my court documents as much. But why that's significant is because the 1836 derayment title
is dated before my grandfather even had the patent. As I said, he only got the patent in 1840.
So there could have never been an 1836 derayment title filed, you know, connecting all of these
land parcels because my grandfather didn't even have the ownership. So that was the first sign of
fraud. And then they said he sold it in 1837, got it back in 1838.
and then sold it again in 1848.
Although most of the court documents is starting the conversation from the 1848 cell, it's
important to understand that pre-information because he could have never sold it in 1837 when
again he didn't even have the patent in his ownership.
So there was a long list of fraud that was leading into that actual contract that did
not have his signature on it, that is half readable.
And then if you really read the 1848 sales contract, it still doesn't say he conveyed all of his
interest.
It says he conveyed a quarter of his interest.
So that means there's still three-fourths of an interest still there, even if the sales contract was legit.
And that's what's being recognized in my second case.
All right.
So Janine has to set up a go-fund me to help her fund this legal battle.
Folks, go ahead and show that on the screen.
So you want to assist her in that.
please do so. And so you see it right there.
Janine, we appreciate you joining us. Keep us abreast.
What happens next to this case?
Thank you so much.
All right. Thanks a lot.
Folks, thank you.
Folks, as I told you, I'm here in Santee, South Carolina.
We're Congress of Jim Clydeburn is having his annual golf tournament.
And so y'all know how I feel about golf.
Now, he claims he's a big time golf. I ain't never seen it.
And so he joins us right now.
Congressman Cullman over here.
How's it going?
We're great.
All right, sir.
Thank you so much of being here.
Glad to be here.
So first and foremost, for folks who don't know what this is about, I keep telling people, I got a little golf terms all around the country, and a lot of our folks, we're raising hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars for our kids.
Absolutely.
This tournament started 37 years ago.
This is our 36th annual tournament.
We were doing this even before I got to Congress.
And who's it named after?
It's named after Rudolph Gonzeda, who was a young man, was young at the time, who died in a precinct, counting votes.
He was a guy that used to drive for me, became a fast friend.
He told me one day, he said, no, I'm going to do everything you're asking me to do to help you with your political career.
But I'm not going to be satisfied until you run for Congress.
And of course, when I did run for Congress, he had passed away.
So when he passed away, I named this golf tournament in his honor.
And we will give out tomorrow night 171 scholarships.
Each one of those young people will get a laptop from Dell and a software package from Microsoft,
and they will be going to colleges.
and universities all across the country.
We only have two qualifications.
Number one, if you live in the sixth congressional district,
you are eligible no matter where you go to school.
If you go to school in the sixth congressional district,
you'll eligible no matter where you live.
And so we have students come in from California,
and we have students who will go out to California.
So we keep those two.
criteria and that's it. So 171 this year, how many scholarships you think you've
handed out over 36 years? It's over 2,000 scholarships we have given out. We were
never as big as we are now, not always as big. We started out. In fact the first
year I had to write a chat. You know, to give a $500 scholarship to one of the
young people and the only young begin that year. Last year we gave out 200.
and 200 the year before.
And so we have now given out
world over 2,000 scholarships
and
somewhere around $6 million.
Okay, all right, that's big there.
So let's now talk about
South Carolina staying
number one in the cycle.
It was a battle. Many of the states,
Iowa desperately wanted to
reclaim this spot. New Hampshire was fighting
forward. Nevada was fighting forward.
But how does
South Carolina prevail to stay first in the nation?
when the Democrats vote in 2028?
Well, I think that the Rules Committee looked at what the playing field was.
There were six states that they were going to select,
and they were drawn from a lot of states that made to run.
Now, South Carolina had traditionally been in this so-called pre-primary window,
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Bring in six states, and then once they looked at what six states would be,
then they looked at the six states to decide how they should be ranked, first, second, third, through six.
And decided that because of the demographics of South Carolina, and because of their record,
corridor that South Carolina produced in vetting candidates that South Carolina made the most sense
to go first. We'll be followed by Nevada and New Hampshire, and then those three,
and then they'll go to Michigan, Virginia, and New Mexico. So it was an interesting battle
because what you had is you had a lot of white progressives, white, white, white, all
why are we doing this?
We have no shot at winning that
in the general election, so why should
we go there? Many African-Americans say,
wait a minute, huge black voting
block there in South Carolina,
black folks are the basic Democratic Party.
And the thing
that what I said was
by South Carolina going first,
many of our interests
are going to be on the table first,
and those candidates have to be able to answer
those issues.
And yeah, I know before it was like,
you go to Iowa, you go to New Hampshire, then South Carolina.
But now they're going to have to deal with that up front.
Absolutely, and they should.
The fact of the matter is you want to win in November.
That is the big thing, win the presidency.
So you ought to put the people on the field who demonstrate that they can appeal to all those
corners that make up this party.
The African-American vote is very important to the Democratic Party.
And so why would you have them in an also-a-ran position?
They ought to be in the mix early on, because even if you don't know, when you get to South Carolina,
after the results come in, you might find out what it is that you don't know.
And you might find out how to improve that which you know a little love.
It was also amazing.
Every time it was Iowa, New Hampshire, we would see these stories.
oh, you know, it's retail politics, and, you know,
and they were talking about how just really smart these voters were
and the questions they asked.
And I'm going, well, it's not like black folks
on doing those things in South Carolina.
Right.
And so, you know, black folks in this state
looked at various candidates and also wasn't about race.
I remember when Sharpton ran of a president.
Right.
And it was a brother he ran a magazine in New York.
He said, oh, he's been in South Carolina.
I said, no, he's not.
He said, he's not going to win.
He said, I bet you a steak dinner.
I said, okay, I said, no problem.
And then he had to pay up.
And then he hit me, he said, he said, I don't understand.
How does Trump do not win in South Carolina?
I said, because black voters are examining who do they think can win the presidency.
Yeah.
I said, so you just can't assume if you're black.
You're going to win South Carolina.
Absolutely.
No, I said, black folks are some of the most astute political folks.
and we make decisions in the same smart, strategic way as others.
And I wish people would pay a little more attention to that.
The fact of the matter is, I do not take black voters for granted.
Why should you?
And I've been black pretty much all of my life.
So I spend my time as I'm doing here with the African American community
because I think I need to demonstrate time and time again
that I am interested in their dreams, their aspirations,
and I'm going to do what I can to help them to just say
that because you're black, you deserve the support of African Americans.
That's not the way it works anymore than we can expect that just because you're black,
you will represent African Americans.
I'm just now thinking about the Supreme Court.
You did an interview that caused a little stir when you were, when many people say you said that black people let Vice President Kamala Harris down.
What you did was you cited 59% turnout.
Right.
And the reality is, and what I have been saying for the longest is that we have to be, 70% should be our minimum.
Because if we hit that, hit that number, all of a sudden, we could sweep the elections all over the place.
Absolutely.
And a lot of people didn't quite understand that.
When you cited 71% of whites, that there's no way we were shot at winning, North Carolina, Georgia, Ohio, Michigan, if we don't get the turnout in Milwaukee for Wisconsin, Texas, and other places.
And so my deal is that's where we have to be.
We're leaving our power at home by not participating in elections.
That's right.
And I think that we will do ourselves a disservice.
if we don't look at exactly what we need to do.
The question is, how do we get beyond that 59%?
It seems to me that if my children's future depend upon who occupies the White House,
if my children's future depend upon who sits in the Congress and make decisions
as to whether or not the Smithsonian continue to represent African Americans in their existence.
the way they should be represented.
If that is the case, should I not be participating in the process that make that happen?
And if they're not participating as sufficient numbers, we need to take stock.
So when I say that only 59% turned up the last time, and Kamala Harris was on the ticket and she lost,
the question is, why?
What do we need to do to get that number beyond 55%?
That's not blaming the 55%.
That's blaming maybe me.
Maybe you.
What do we need to do
to improve our attempts
to reach those people?
So it bothers me that the moment
people see something like that, that just jump
to these conclusions, he's blaming Blackcrieve.
I'm not blaming Blackcrieve. I'm blaming myself.
What did I not do
that could have gotten
the turnout the way
it should be? That's why I've been taking
stock. That's why I've been talking to
divine nine all over the country talking to Masonic groups talking to the faith
leaders to see what can we do to better appeal to that vote to get them beyond
the 59 percent I think I think two things have to happen I think there is
something that has to that has to happen within our community but the reality
is when you look at the Democratic Party the apparatus and I'm talking about
Democratic Governors Association DSCC
D, C,
looking at House Majority Pax,
Senate Majority Pact,
and all these other individual PACs
in these campaigns.
And what I have been saying
if you study the data,
is that, listen,
so I'm 57, I'm 58 in November.
My mom and dad are 79.
You're what, 80?
86.
If you look at the data,
black people who are 65 plus
self-identifies Democrats.
Absolutely.
55 to 64, somewhat self-identified.
Right.
When you keep going down, there's less self-identification.
So what I've argued is that Democrats are going to have to spend four times as much time
and four times as much money to turn out black voters than they were used to.
I said that, and there's no disrespect to Obama, but Obama did not need the black political infrastructure
that was in place that Reverend Jackson, Ron Brown, put in place.
The problem is that infrastructure was obliterated because of those eight years of Obama.
And so these white male democratic strategists are not listening to understand.
You can't just sit here and say, well, we're going to spend two, three million, but we're going to raise a billion.
I mean, the reality is the Carver's campaign raised more than a billion dollars.
Right.
And being in the other pack, only 22 million went to black-owned media.
Absolutely.
Total.
Right.
So what are you and others?
What are the CBC?
Are y'all basically putting your hand down to all those groups?
Listen, if y'all do not spend the money on the ground in these communities, you're going to lose.
Look, it's kind of interesting.
You talked about the most recent confuffle.
Several weeks ago, I got a lot of crap from a lot of people because I said we are losing because we are relying on the consultant class.
these people that we are spending all our money on
do not necessarily have the understanding
of the communities that we need to energize.
And if you do not sit in those AME churches
the way I do, you do not sit in those Southern Baptist
black faith groups that I sit in.
Or go to the places where young folks aren't even going to church anymore.
Absolutely.
And so you're going to tell me how best to do this.
turn out you're going to give them money to somebody who has never been in these communities
and they're going to sign how the money they spent and I'm telling you that you are
spending your money funding people who place TV ads and no problem with that they
make all the money they want and you get all the history want but the fact of the matter
is if you spend money with those churches to rent
At least their vans.
You are hiring the deacons in those churches,
the other people who drive the vans.
Paying for staff and not hoping we're buying them for free.
Absolutely.
And you want these people to work for nothing.
You ain't asked them people who play the TV ads to work for nothing.
So this is a lot of crap that we got to stop.
And I'm not going to let them get away with it.
And they gave me a lot of hell for that.
And so that was given my party what I thought they needed to know.
Are they listening?
Well, we'll find out.
But I also want my folks to know that we've got a heavy responsibility.
Look, I'm the night African-American and the serving Congress from South Carolina.
That 9 to 5 years between number 8 and yours truly number 9.
Why do we have that 9 to 5 years?
We can't ignore that.
We've got to look at what is going on today like I do.
I look at this
and I remember what happened in 1876
What is going on today
With this administration
Is exactly what they did
What the Ruth B. Hayes did back in 1876
That started Jim Crowe
And people have to understand
That
Reconstruction came through an end
By a single vote
It was a committed vote of 8 to 7
That ended Reconstruction
It was an electoral college vote
of 1805
after 184 that started Jim Crow.
No big sweep coming over the country.
Right.
A single vote in each one of those instances.
And what we've got to do is make sure we don't let that history repeat itself.
And we're not going to do that by denying the fact that we got responsibilities to check ourselves to find out what it is.
Jim Pryber needs to find out why is it that we did not turn out more than 59 percent.
and you and I talk all the time
and we wish you would get some other people
listen to us
hopefully
we're going to get that done before
November 3rd
all right well I'm gonna keep giving the hell
and you're the same
absolutely
I appreciate it
and last
In fact of me you just know that
second place in this tournament is right open for you
oh well I didn't
I won my flight last time I played here
so I expect to bring that trophy home
back to the crib
Okay buddy's because
Alfa's name
ain't going to be on it.
No, no, no.
All you alphas, you just know
you're going to end up in Omega chapter.
Yeah, but you know, my pastor,
Ralph Douglas West, who is in Alpha, told me,
he said, Jesus was
the Alpha and the Omega, but
when he was in that Omega chapter,
he said, this ain't good, so he got out three days later.
That's a pretty good, man.
We got me.
I appreciate the Congress.
We're going to go to a quick break.
We'll be right back, rolling about the unfiltered
on the Black Star Network.
You got me, that right?
He just told me that with a week.
My mom had questions about her Medicare, so she called Chapter,
a Medicare advisory company, and she texts me right after saying it's a great benefit.
It was easy, a real person walked her through the whole thing,
and now she understands better what's going on.
But also it's not just her.
A woman in Yonkers rode in saying the process was so simple,
the enrollment was easy, and she was so glad she called.
Then there's Maryland, 90 years old, in Florida,
living on Social Security.
Her premium climbed every single year
north of $400 a month
for coverage she could barely afford
anymore. So what does she do?
She called Chapter. They found her the
same top-tier coverage for hundreds
of dollars less. 90 years old,
and finally, somebody in her corner.
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from our community. The Medicare system was not
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print, too many plans. Yet Chapter's
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good question. Why do so many people seem to think they know black men so well, but they think
we want, what they think we need. Hell, they even tried to tell us why and how we voted. I never had
a conversation with us. Never asked us how we felt. What brings us joy? What makes us angry? What
makes us scared? How do we live? That's what this show is about. No translation, because we don't
need anybody speaking for us. We can speak for ourselves. This will be a show where we bring brothers
on that you don't see on every other talk show. Nope. For others that are doing work in local communities
with black men for black communities.
We're going to hear each other
and try to understand
so perhaps we can move forward together.
No translation, because we don't need anybody
speaking for us.
What we need is each other.
No translation.
Right here on the Black Star Network.
Check it out.
Hey, everybody.
I'm T.D. Jackson.
I want to encourage you
to watch Roland Martin unfiltered.
It'll blow your mind.
Folks, in 2007, nearly 25 million people who use Medicare are going to experience an increase in their premiums and prescription drug costs.
Why Donald Trump?
That's right.
On Tuesday, the Trump administration and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services announced the ending of the Part D premium stabilization demonstration.
Part D is an optional prescription drug insurance plan available to people enrolled in Medicare.
It helps cover the cost of both generic and brand name medications obtained from pharmacies and includes coverage for many recommended vaccines for adults.
The program provided federal support to insurers to help minimize increases and discrepancies in premiums.
So what does this mean?
Turning to us now is D. DeMocut Meadows author, the CEO of Health Tech for Medicaid.
Glad to have you here.
So walk us through.
Trump was running around talking about, oh, how he was going to be helping seniors,
lower prescription, lower prescription drugs.
Is this essentially a payoff to the drug companies?
I don't know that this is a payoff to the drug companies,
but I think this is a continuation of the dismantling of health care
that is happening as a part of HR1
and many other things we're seeing that will take effect in January of 2027.
Okay, so walk us through again, what does this mean?
So numbers.
What is someone paying right now?
average person and what will they be paying once this happens at 2027?
Well, it's hard to answer that question. I think that
let's go back a little bit and explain this. So part D is the part of Medicare that
helps pay for prescription drugs, right? This is not Medicare taking away
prescription drug coverage tomorrow. It's CMS removing kind of the temporary
cushion that keeps the monthly premiums for certain Medicare drug plans from rising
too quickly. And why that, so it's like think of it as the government ending a coupon that helped us
hold down the monthly price. So beginning in 2027, some seniors who have the original Medicare
plus separate Part D, prescription drug plan, may see much larger premiums increase. And we do not know
the plan's price yet because that is not set until September. So people should not panic.
but they should pay very close attention to this fall.
And I could give you some numbers if that's really what you want to know.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
No, go ahead.
Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.
So I think this matters for Black America, right?
Because many of our seniors are already managing lots of prescription drugs, right, on fixed incomes, right?
So one in four black Medicare beneficiaries had an income below about $20,000 in 2024,
which is the latest data we have.
And black beneficiaries are more likely than white beneficiaries
to report costs-related problems in getting their health care.
So, you know, a higher premium may look small,
but when it comes to you paying for your groceries,
your light bill, or deciding which medication gets filled,
obviously you need to have, you know, lights and you need to eat, right?
So meds usually are the first to go.
So when does his start in 2027?
Is it January or later in the year?
It starts January 1st.
Nope, starts January 1st and these rates are not set until September.
So in September is when we will hear about some of the rates.
Now, what you should know is you shouldn't cancel your plan today.
You need to watch for your plan's annual notice of change, which usually comes out in September.
and then you compare your plans during your Medicaid, Medicare, excuse me, open enrollment.
Medicare open enrollment is October 15th through December 7th.
So you have time to look and compare plans.
People who have limited income, which is most seniors, right,
should also check to see if they qualify for something called extra help,
which is there to see if they can even further help reduce their Part D premium.
and their prescription drug costs.
But I want to bring in my panel right.
Yeah, go ahead, please.
I'm bringing my panel right now.
Joy Cheney, she is the founder of Joyce Radge out of D.C.
Michael Imhotep host the African History Network Show of Detroit
and, of course, Candace Kelly.
Questions, I'll start with you, Joy.
What's your question?
So I do health care work.
Let me just add, you know, adding what our colleague just said here.
So what this administration has done is between Medicaid and ACA, so ending the tax credits, which is, you know, similar to ending these subsidies, right?
Eight million people have already lost their health care.
We expect that to go up when the big beautiful bill or big ugly bill takes effect in the new year.
So now, on top of that, seniors, if they hadn't been caught up in ACA, right, or Medicaid, right, are now being caught up.
up in having this removal of the Medicare Part D subsidy.
And if you're thinking, well, then maybe I'll go get extra help, assuming extra help remains,
we know that more people are going to be trying to get extra help, which will make it
more difficult for people to get extra help, including those who are on it.
So I just would love, you know, if there's anything that our guest wants to say about that.
I know that wasn't a question.
It was a statement.
but I think it's important to put together the constellation of crisis.
And even if you aren't on one of these government programs, hospitals are closing.
Emergency wards are closing.
Maternal health wards are closing right now.
That will continue next year.
That means everyone, regardless of how you present at a hospital, are going to see frustrated interactions and higher lines and longer weights and et cetera at your local
hospital, especially in rural America.
If your guest has anything to add about that, please do.
Sorry for the diatri, but I had to underscore it.
No, I think you're absolutely correct.
I mean, this is a decimation of our health care system for all of us.
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I think this is an all out assault on healthcare in this country.
And yes, you're saying rural hospitals close.
We are all going to be hit with the impact of our emergency rooms being overcrowded.
The uninsured in this country is going to go up tremendously.
All of these cuts are hitting all at the same time post the election cycle, right?
It's all happening in January.
of 27. One thing I do want to caution people, though, is do not choose a drug plan based solely on your
premium. A cheaper plan can cost more overall if it does not cover your medication. So, you know,
it puts you in a more expensive tier and may exclude your local pharmacy. So I do want folks,
and this is maybe where, as a black community, we can start to help folks. How should we
help people look at their monthly premiums,
whether every medication that you are on is on the formulary,
looking at the difference between deductibles and pay amounts.
Well, Adelika, that's why we partnered with Chapter for that very reason
for folks to be able to, it's a free service for the way able to call,
and so we partnered with them for the last couple of months,
and we've extended our partnership with them over a year.
and again, look, my parents hit me up and showed me of the savings that they've actually made as a result.
So what you're talking about is exactly what we're doing here on Rolla Martin Unfiltered in the Black Star Network.
Question from Michael.
All right.
So my question was back on Tuesday, Dr. Mehmet-Az, the Trump administration,
administrative for centers for Medicare and Medicaid.
He said that ending this subsidy program would prevent billions of taxpayer dollars from being funneled to insurance companies.
And he said it cost the agency an estimated $3.6 billion in 2026.
And he went on to say that most Medicare beneficiaries would see less than $10 per month increase.
And some would even see lower premiums than beforehand.
So this is from the piece from the Associated Press.
What is wrong with what Dr. Mimitt Oz is saying, who is actually a doctor and some people may be inclined to think he knows what he's talking about?
Well, he's a cardiothoracic surgeon, correct, but he's been probably a TV entertainment individual a bit longer than he's been a clinician.
So I'm just going to leave it at that.
You know, CMS says that they're ending this because prescription drug plans have had enough time to adjust to these reforms and now can price their plans with that temporary support.
That tells you right now it doesn't have anything to do with people.
It has more to do with insurance plans.
So, you know, if, you know, for me, the program,
materially lowered the average standalone premiums by about $26 a month in 2025, and it would have decreased them about $16 a month in 2020. And I think they have in $16 a month in 2026. It doesn't sound like a lot of money, but if you're on a fixed income, you know, that's a significant amount of dollars, I mean, per month. You know, think about what $26 per month, you know, times 12 months is. That's a lot of money for people.
when you look at the efforts savings i mean i don't know we're not i'm not a financial services
person but if you look at the amount of savings that most seniors have in their bank account
it is not very high candace how will this affect the maternal mortality rate given the
discrepancies and the way that black mothers are treated does this trickle down and affect that
arena at all well so medicare is over 65 right so this particular issue is not going to impact
I mean, we don't have very many 65-year-olds having babies, but the Medicaid issue will significantly impact the black maternal health issue.
And so this issue right here for Medicare will not impact maternal or birthing health at all, just due to the age of which you qualify for Medicare.
But Medicaid, a trillion dollar cut to Medicaid, will absolutely impact our maternal health crisis.
and deeply impact black Americans, Native Americans across the U.S.
All right, then.
Well, we certainly appreciate you.
All right.
We certainly appreciate you joining us, educating our folks on this.
And again, what we really try to aim here is to help folks out,
giving them a warning, preparing for what comes next.
Thanks a lot.
Sure.
All right, folks, going to go to a break.
We come back.
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Let me get a person for a second. My mom had questions about her Medicare, so she called
Chapter, a Medicare advisory company, and she texts me right after saying it's a great benefit.
It was easy. A real person walked her through the whole thing, and now she understands better
what's going on. But it also is not just her. A woman in Yonkers rode in saying the process
was so simple, the enrollment was easy, and she was so glad she called. Then there's Maryland,
90 years old, in Florida, living on Social Security. Her premium climbed every single year,
worth of $400 a month for coverage she could barely afford anymore.
So what does she do?
She called Chapter.
They found her the same top-tier coverage for hundreds of dollars less,
90 years old, and finally, somebody in her corner.
I hear stories like that again and again from our community.
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Let me ask you a question.
Why do so many people seem to think they know black men so well
What they think we want what they think we need hell
They even tried to tell us why and how we voted and never had a conversation with us
Never asked us how we felt brings us joy what makes us angry what makes us scared how do we live
That's what this show is about no translation because we don't need anybody speaking for us
We can speak for ourselves this would be a show where we bring brothers on that you don't see on every other talk show
Nope
Brothers that are doing work in local communities with black men
in for black communities.
We're going to hear each other and try to understand
so perhaps we can move forward
together. No translation.
Because we don't need anybody speaking for us.
What we need is each other. No translation.
Right here on the Black Star Network.
Check it out.
Now that Rolling Martin is willing to give me
the blueprint. Hey, Saras.
I need to go to Tyler Perry and get another blueprint
because I need some green money.
The only way I can do what I'm doing,
to make sure money. So you'll see me working
with Rowland. Matter of fact, it's the Roland and
Sheryl Londoner & a show. Well, should it be the Sherlock
We Show and a Roller & a show? But whatever show
it's going to be. It's going to be good.
Well, y'all,
this just ended, the sheer stupidity
of Donald Trump,
his Department of Justice. They have
dropped charges against the
former Olympian
Daniel Hearn, David
Hearn, who they accused of
damaging the Lincoln
Memorial Reflecting Pool.
In their statement to dismiss,
Candace, you're going to love this.
They said, quote,
damage to the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool in June, 2006,
was the result of flawed installation by the contractor.
You know, the friend of Trump,
who got a no-bid contract of $14 million to so-called fix the reflecting pool.
These people, Candace, are corrupt.
and they're stupid.
And they didn't have the evidence to prove that he did anything that violated the law.
And therein lied the problem.
It was just a matter of time before we saw this type of information come through.
We saw the pool changing colors as soon as it went down.
We saw and heard evidence that was contrary to what the Department of Justice was saying.
All of this is political, as you said, to justify the purchase of this reflex.
which did not need a change as we know to begin with.
So you know, it's interesting that when the evidence comes forward,
sometimes it does us well and does justice.
And I think that in this case, the Department of Justice
couldn't do anything but pull back on this ridiculous claim.
And not against just anybody who was regular.
This is an Olympian, someone that people generally hold in high esteem.
Olympians come to the White House after they win their medals.
they win their medals. This is someone that it didn't make sense that this was happening to on an
even higher level. So all of this culminated into the final truth that we knew and that finally
actually made it to the record. Thank goodness, but we saw this coming. It goes to show you, Michael,
the sheer incompetence of these so-called geniuses. Yeah, Roland, and if you, and if you, and if you,
you keep reading that
Associated Press story, it goes on to
say that in addition to
the flawed installation by the contractor,
they said the rush to complete
the project prior to events
associated with the America 250
celebration in the weeks
around the Independence Day 2026.
So not only was it a no-bid contract,
not only was it
a faulty installation
and poor quality, but
it was also a rush job.
And Attorney Janine Pira,
she had to admit that there wasn't enough evidence to charge him.
So I think this Olympian should sue the Trump administration for legal fees.
But for Roland, isn't this the administration that talks about qualifications and DEI and unqualified people?
He's surrounded by white DEI, white unqualified people.
So you're going to see more of this.
A lot of these lawsuits, a lot of these prosecutions,
things like this are falling apart,
and we're going to see more of this.
Joy.
These are political prosecutions, we know.
What's interesting is he's doing other,
quote-unquote, beautification projects
around the city.
And what we see with them, they're getting extra scrutiny.
People are saying, hey, they may look good today,
but how will they look tomorrow?
More rush jobs.
Things done, no-bid contracts,
sometimes contracts that seem like
there's a personal relationship between the person who receives the contract and the president,
not the due vetting. I mean, this is where government is at its best, right? When it says,
we got to have escrow scrutiny. We want to have multiple bids. We want to make sure that the
project, if done, is going to last interactions with the public, including if there is some vandalism.
But right here, this was silly, always from the beginning. This is a case of the Trump.
administration saying, are you going to believe us or you're lying eyes? The American people
saw way before any Olympian showed up that the pool was, you know, faltering under the weight of
the incompetence of the Trump administration, algae, the paint coming up, et cetera.
So there was just no way this was going to move forward. And this just is one, the last in a number
of failed efforts, failed prosecution.
We see Todd Blanche's hearing being delayed, him being challenged by members of his own party,
because they simply are not behaving in a way that is competent, much less ethical.
So this is just another definition of what it means to be in the Trump administration.
And the difference between the first administration, there was plenty of incompetence,
but there were also some competent people there who demanded the president adhered from standards.
Now they've taken away those breaks.
He's surrounded himself
by sycophants and frankly
people who aren't up to the task
because if you were, you wouldn't be working for him.
And this is the result.
We can expect more of this.
So we've got a couple of sound bites
that
are going to make y'all laugh.
Control room, do you all have those ready?
You have the prosecutor
in the District of Columbia,
Janine Piro, at the news.
conference just go okay just going on and on and on about this then you have
the the Interior Secretary Doug Bergam who I mean he is adamant about what
happened so we play play those for y'all so you can hear these foods and see
this is the problem and this this is the issue for all of these people who
choose to work for Donald Trump you are destroying any credibility
you have because what you're doing is you're lying for the liar in chief.
You're making stuff up because he wants you to.
And so you're going out to the public saying BS and hope they're buying it.
And you know what?
Every time you lie, folks like me are going to come back and play your lies to embarrass you.
And don't think it's only in this case.
We're going to do it five years from now, ten years from now.
All of the lies that these people tell on behalf of Donald Trump are going to follow them for the rest of their lives.
I'm telling you, these people are absolutely insane.
Do we have the bites ready?
Guys, just play them direct from the computer.
Just play them direct from Twitter.
I mean, okay, you check group me.
I send it, y'all.
And so just click the link.
Just click the link.
So you got to do.
Play the video.
But it's crazy.
I mean, it's absolutely crazy to listen to them describe the damage done and say, oh, no, we absolutely, this is an airtight case. It is solid. We got no issues whatsoever. And you're like, yeah, you do. And this is, the thing here is, Candace, if you take this, but then you now expand it, how many times they keep losing in federal court. You have a, you have.
DOJ attorneys going to federal court lying and the judge is like, y'all lying, busting them for the crap
they're doing, for violating court orders, for people who claim to that is all the rule of law,
this is a lawless administration.
And interestingly enough, many of these judges that are calling them out on their wrongdoing,
they are appointed by Trump.
So we know that these are people who are looking at the law saying,
it's speaking to us right here.
There's no other way that we can go.
What you are doing is ridiculous and makes absolutely no sense.
It is unlawful.
It is political prosecution.
And we have seen this over and over again.
And we will see more of it.
But I think what's going to be interesting
is these sound bites that you're going to play
because we know that there's going to be a story
that they tell that's going to make it seem like
everything that they actually did was actually okay.
There was just some misgiving somewhere or some misunderstanding, but what we did was right,
but we're going to move on and let this gentleman go.
They are never going to fully admit guilt.
There's not going to be the admission that they should do and that they should want to do,
as you said, for trust and accountability, but that never happens.
All right, guys, we got a clip ready.
All right, roll it.
Roll it.
Was this part of the goal specifically did some of the, what?
Was the sealant already partially removed?
Did he rip it back?
He just described in detail because he maintains that it looks the same as it did before he arrived.
That's his.
You know, I'm not going to get into the evidence,
but what I told you is what our witnesses saw and experienced.
There was an effort, a violent effort to rip up the ceiling from the bottom of the pool.
And irrespective of whether or not, you know, we think,
that you know there there is some situation that preceded it we can state and prove
beyond a reasonable doubt that he caused damage and that damages over a thousand
dollars with an expert come to the trial you can we'll hear of all that at the
trial all right now we believe it's his bare hands both hands
Does that indicate in your belief that it was probably damaged before or do you believe that he...
Oh, he damaged it?
Further.
But do you believe it had already been damaged before?
He damaged the pool.
He damaged this pool.
Well, good.
I'm glad you've got that, Evans.
Come on in the grand jury, you can testify.
Next.
Peeled off.
Why?
Why did that happen?
Do you know?
It didn't peel off.
There was there was vandalism.
There was box cutters.
There have been seven arrests.
there was people literally trying to destroy part of a monument.
The reflecting pool is not just a pool on the mall.
It is part of the Lincoln Memorial.
And if anybody says that they're going to go and vandalize that,
it's no different than if someone was throwing paint on Lincoln itself.
And you're 100% sure that what happened with the liner was vandalism.
You can prove it.
Oh, yeah, absolutely you can.
And as we drain it, we've got all the photographs we can see.
I mean, there's no possible way.
You're photographs of a person or people cutting a 300 or 350-put,
gash in the bottom of the reflecting pool?
Dana, I'm not sure why you
and others in the media think that you want to keep
trying to question whether or not.
This is an industrial liner. Every farmer
and rancher in America that's had their
pickup liner lined by this sprayed on
liner knows that you literally,
literally it would never just like peel off
or fall off. This is like a strong material
and it's the size of eight football
fields. And the only way you
can end up with actual slices in
one spot and not the other is that someone
physically cut it. And so the
But the pool itself, it's not leaking.
It was leaking 45,000 gallons a day.
It's finally been fixed by President Trump.
And the American flag blue is working perfectly.
And again, it's beyond me.
Why?
I mean, the real scandal is about the fact that the state of our capital was in such total disrepair that some people...
No one was reporting about the pro-Hamas graffiti on the...
Mr. Secretary, you and...
I talked about this last month.
And we're still talking about.
Well, because it was July 4th and the reflecting pool was closed.
It was closed because it's surrounded by fireworks.
It's closed every year on the 4th of July.
But it was closed prior to that in order to fix the reflecting pool.
But I do.
It was closed because the largest fireworks display in the country we talked about was set up
and it lines either side of the reflecting pool.
You can't have people around fireworks when they're being set up.
Now that the fireworks will come down, the fence will come down.
The fence was there because of the fireworks.
Copy that.
We can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
How about that, Michael?
Yeah, see, Roland, this is an example.
You remember last week, Friday?
I said they'll say one thing on Fox News,
but when they go to court, it's totally different, okay?
That's when we found out that the Trump administration attorneys admitted
that Trump and Russell Vaulk canceled grants to states that voted for Kamala Harris.
Here, they're saying that something on Fox News and at the press conference that the attorneys weren't saying in court and in the court filing.
Okay?
So because they're basically saying in the court filing, there's no evidence to prove that this guy did this.
But they want to go here.
And it seemed like Janine Piro was accusing him of committing damage, $1,000 worth of damage or something like that.
But that's not what the attorney said in court.
in the court finally.
So this is a perfect example of it.
They're trying to save face, but
these lawsuits
are continuing to fall apart on them.
Joe, I swear this is just a group of crackheads.
I mean, at least it would be better.
At least crackheads are proficient
about getting cracked.
They're not even proficient about doing the things
that they want to get. Let me just add a few other things.
So, one,
part of the reason they lie on
Fox News and not in court is because there's no consequence lying on five minutes, right?
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The definition of what is a movie has kind of changed anywhere too, right?
What do you think it is now?
It's images and words being spoken, captured by some sort of technology.
Danny McBride.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Can you make it on, you make your own?
That's great.
I call him Terro Reed.
It's a good name.
They're all named after cast members of American Pie.
Yeah.
I call, I don't, I never looked up if she was in this, but I call him Leachie Sobieski.
Yeah, I don't think she was an American Pie, but I still like that.
Haven't looked it up.
She was prominent around the same time.
Yeah.
Then Mary Steenbergin.
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Whatever you want, we talk about it, but, you know, their viewers just believe it and they move on.
They're only interested in that top headline.
When you go to court, there are consequences, right?
You can be held in contempt of court.
You can lose your law license.
And nobody wants to lose their livelihood in the future, even if they've lost their self-respect.
and respect of their children and their reputation.
They certainly don't want to cut off any avenues to work after this fool leaves office.
But here's a point that I think hasn't, I haven't heard yet.
So they're out there and they're saying that the damage to the pool was due to so-called vandalism.
We know that's not true, but that's what they, that's what some of them are saying.
What it does is it undermines any future claims if they want to go after and recoup some of the money that they paid to this company,
this pool resurfacing company
that frankly did a botched job, right?
The people who made the decision
not to figure out why algae was entered into the pool
and why they didn't clean the filters.
Like, so they're really undermining
any kind of recourse to get money back
for the American people
who wasted our tax dollars and our money
on these beautiful...
They're not going to get that money back.
Joy, joy.
Joy.
Joy, they're not going to get that money back
because Trump hooked up one of his buddies.
They're trying to get that money back.
They're never interested in us.
They're trying to get it back.
But that's the thing they should be interested in
if they were decent people.
Yeah, but hell no, they are not.
No, they're not decent.
They're corrupt.
All right, I'm going to go to a break.
We come back.
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We've got to update on several other cases.
We'll also talk with a former commissioner.
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If in this country
right now, you have people
get up in the morning, and the only
thing they can think about is how many people
they can hurt, and they've got the power,
that's the time for mourning.
For better or worse, what makes
America special, it's that legal
system that's supposed to protect
minorities from the tyranny
of the majority. We are
at a point of a moral
emergency.
We must raise a voice of outrage.
We must raise a voice of compassion.
And we must raise a voice of unity.
We are not in a crisis of party versus party.
We are in a crisis of civilization, a human rights crisis,
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And guess what?
You've been chosen to make sure that those that would destroy,
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All right, folks, an update on the Nolan Wells case.
Mississippi officials have confirmed the autopsy on Nolan Wells has been completed,
although it's completed nowhere and when it's going to be released.
USA Today is reporting that Bailey C. Martin,
a spokesperson for the Mississippi Department of Public Safety,
the state medical examiner completed the initial autopsy on Wells on July 7th.
Mississippi's 19th Circuit Court District Attorney Angel Myers-Mackleath has said that key evidence,
like the state's autopsy report, will remain under wraps until the case was presented to a grand jury.
Now, we've all heard of the audio and the enhanced audio from the emergency calls made by Nolan Welles' friend.
Now, that audio is leading to more questions about what happened the day the 18-year-old disappeared
and what led to his death.
on Thursday at the National Urban League's annual conference in Nashville.
Family Attorney Ben Crump gave an update on the case and his parents, Christine and Elmore Wandsley.
They also had a lot to say about the investigation.
Celebrating this off of July, all the friends come back.
Nolan Wells tragically washes up on the shore.
Two days later, day.
And so we know all of the current events that have been happening.
We are announcing that we have the audio from retained and our consultant with some of the foremost first to review.
To be able to know this phrase.
He was never one to exclude.
He always wanted everyone to be happy to feel good.
to have purpose.
It didn't even matter if he didn't know you.
If you took that moment to just tell him a little bit about yourself,
what you wanted to do with your life,
the biggest children.
Today, I'm not too proud.
No, his friends, please will not be able to rest until we get in.
But please understand that all of these distractions,
these other questions, that people that attack just know.
We will not be distracted.
I pretty much was raised that I would say I wanted to give my children more than what I had.
It's the right thing you do.
I got lost to my wife.
If you know something and you are really, if no one was really your best friend,
or for the people who say that he was their friend,
tell us what you know.
All we don't know is the truth.
We're not naming anyone.
We just want to, we just want to a truth.
For any parent, we need time to grieve him.
A parent, you know,
Just attacking a period.
Like, when you,
this is a diverse country.
Her race made this country.
We all make this race.
And just call out terms,
give them information,
and they'll take them and just help us out.
And I discuss for all these families,
all these members of counselors,
any more of the information on any one of these cases,
please don't forward.
Well, folks, we have to continue.
you explaining to people who don't seem to understand what a legal strategy is about. Candace,
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The definition of what is a movie has kind of changed anywhere too, right?
What do you think it is now?
It's images and words being spoken, captured by some sort of, uh, text.
technology. Danny McBride. He loves
Oh, that's fantastic. And you make it on, you make your own. That's great.
I call him Terro Reed.
That's a good name.
They're all named after cast members of American Pie.
Yeah.
I call, I don't, I never looked up if she was in this, but I call him Leachie Sobiesky.
Yeah, I don't think she was an American Pie, but I still like that.
Haven't looked it up. She was prominent around the same time. Yeah.
Then Mary Steenbergin.
Why are you guys talking to me?
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Why are you talking so down to me that you think I don't understand your little play game?
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Every week, the news gets worse.
The world gets crazier.
And Yamanika is here to tell whoever's responsible, you're the problem.
If you come over here to play games, I'm a check you.
Okay? If you do some in the news that don't sound good, I'm gonna play you.
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Understanding that when Krupp goes to the NWACP Convention in Chicago with the Nolan Wells family,
when he goes to Nashville with the Wells Family to National Urban League Convention,
What he is doing is the legal strategy is you're keeping the story on the front page at the top of the newscasts in the minds of people.
If you do not have a media strategy, what then happens is case goes quiet.
Now, let me real clear.
I see Nancy Grace doing interviews, Don Lemon's doing stuff.
These other shows are doing stuff.
The reason I have not done a lot of the stuff that they've done,
because we have no new information.
Okay, so I'm not going to sit here,
and I'm not debating that idiot Tatum
over an interview he did with one of the guys.
That is a waste of my damn time.
I'm not interviewing somebody, well, let me talk to them,
get the analysis of that audio.
And again, if folk want to do that, that's what they want to do.
But the reality is, it's not any information.
But the job of Crump is to keep your attention
on the case. Otherwise, Mississippi will gladly allow it to just fade away.
You are exactly correct, because what we've been seeing is speculation. And as you said,
there's no new information, and the information that they do have, they're not sharing
because it's going to the grand jury, which is a closed proceeding. So I agree with you 100%
that all the talk around this, I hope that it can die down because what you said is correct also.
for the justice system, a lot of it these days happens in the media.
Without it, you are not going to keep the case alive.
You are not going to get things as quickly as you want, and you are not going to get accountability.
Remember that the police already spoke down there and talked about how this was an accident.
They already came to their conclusion without an investigation.
So that is what we were dealing with, which is why Ben Crump and everybody else involved has to keep this story alive.
Now that it goes to the grand jury, we are on a fact-finding mission.
The Mississippi Bureau of Investigations has already interviewed dozens of people.
The people who were on the boat with Nolan, there were about six or seven people.
There were quite a few.
They have to be talked to.
They subpoenaed, the parents of Nolan subpoenaed the records and made sure to tell Meta and Google,
preserve all the records.
This is evidence-collecting time, whether it's the evidence.
engineering reports, whether it's the digital footprint. This is the time where you get all the
information. Oh, as well, we have the state autopsy, and then we have the autopsy done by Dr.
Roger Mitchell in Washington, D.C. So all of that is what the grand jury is now finally going to do.
But this may not happen quickly. It will happen quicker, though, than if there wasn't all this
attention. Why? Because it's a process, as you know, Roland. This is part of the legal strategy.
Do things slowly, talk to everyone, keep the message out there, because now we're going through a discovery phase where we have to get all this information together to present it to members of the grand jury.
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Hey, this is Hayes Davenport.
And Sean Clements.
We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook.
Every episode we're trying to help our guests improve their careers
by mainly focusing on how they can help us improve our careers.
The show is famously super accessible so you can easily jump into any of our 650 episodes
and understand what's going on.
We recommend some of our recent episodes with Ben Stiller.
The definition of what is a movie has kind of changed anywhere, too, right?
What do you think it is now?
It's images and words being spoken, captured by some sort of technology.
Danny McBride.
He loves Mouthing.
Oh, that's fantastic.
And you make it on, you make your own.
That's great.
I call him Terro Reed.
It's a good name.
They're all named after cast members of American Pie.
Yeah.
Oh, gotcha.
I call, I don't, I never looked up if she was in this, but I call him Leachie Sobiesky.
Yeah.
I don't think she was an American Pie, but I still like that.
Haven't looked it up.
She was prominent around the same time.
Then Mary Steenbergin.
Why are you guys talking to me?
I'm worried.
I'm worried.
Why are you talking so down to me that you think I don't understand your little play game?
I just really.
I get it.
I'm trying to set you up for success here.
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Every week, the news gets worse.
The world gets crazier.
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If you come over here to play games, I'ma check you.
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People will kind of wait because that really is what we are in the middle of right now.
It's now just a wait and see.
There's nothing anybody can do.
information. We're not hearing about it as much, and that's where we are right now.
See, for me, Joy, I just can't, I hate speculation. I just can't sit here and do a whole show
on speculation. And let me real clear, it can get clicks, it can get views. That's great.
But all you're doing is, in essence, repeating the same thing. And that's just not what I do.
Yeah, no, I think that's right.
This is not a time for speculation.
We want to keep the pressure up.
We also want to send to anyone who was there.
This isn't going to go away.
People are not going to forget.
So we want you to tell the truth.
Whatever happened, we're not presupposing.
And I love what his parents said.
We're not inviting you in advance.
We're not saying that.
But we do want to know the truth because things are not matching up.
And we know when things don't make sense,
because we're missing some part of the story.
So this isn't going to go away.
If you don't want this following you for the rest of your life,
you need to tell the truth.
You need to come forward.
You need to say it.
And the pressure up is very important,
and that's what we're doing it.
But no, we should not be speculating about what we think happened,
what might have happened.
One, because that can also lead us down the wrong path.
This is about, you know, creating the weather.
Yeah, because what happens is when, right,
because all the speculation only does is get people talking about stuff that that's not factual on social media.
And it just simply clouds everything, Michael.
And that's the problem when folks just start, well, I think this and I think that, I think this here.
If you do not operate from a set of facts, all you know is contributing to the nonsense.
And that's their point.
That's their purpose.
It's unfortunately, you know, Roland, you've been doing this a long time.
I haven't been doing this as long as you, but I've been doing this 16 years, right?
And I take a certain factual approach when I cover stories.
I've covered thousands of stories.
You and I connected when I used to host your nasty syndicated radio show.
There's things that I see on social media, and people are just making money off of this story, just putting nonsense out.
Okay.
And these are people who have no conscience, all right?
So I hope they get the truth, whatever it is.
And the family said this repeatedly.
They just want to know what happened to Nolan Wells.
They want the facts.
And we talked about this last Friday, Roland,
with the district attorney, Angel Myers-McElweth,
saying that they're going to the grand jury.
And if people look at the piece from ABC News
that talks about the autopsy being completed,
the official autopsy,
It said in that piece that the DA's office said convening a grand jury does not mean there is any criminality and the standard procedure for most unnatural or suspicious deaths in the county.
And last Friday asked the question, if they go to the grand jury, who's the suspect going to be?
So we don't know if they have a suspect already or if there won't be.
Don't know.
Whatever it is, we want the facts.
We want the truth to come up.
Let's give an update in the case of Sonia Massey, the cop who was convicted of her murder, has been denied release.
The Illinois Prisoner Review Board unanimously denied former Sagamont County Sheriff's Deputy Sean Gracie in early release.
In May, Grayson requested early release under Illinois' Joe Coleman Act after receiving a stage 4 colon cancer diagnosis.
Gracie was convicted of second degree murder and sentenced to 20 years in prison in January for killing Massey in her home in 2024.
Matt's family was against the early release, saying he should pay for what he did.
The family's attorneys, Ben Crump and Antonio Romanoucci, said in a joint statement,
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A badge does not provide an early way out.
All right, folks, Donald Trump once said that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue.
His supporters would not care.
Well, a new poll for Politico says that's not a lie.
The majority of those polls said they would literally stick with a GOP candidate,
even if they were hit with a variety of scandals,
including a DUI conviction, accepting lobbyist gifts,
domestic violence, sexual assault, and anti-Semitic social media posts.
Two-thirds of self-identified MAGA Trump voters say they will continue supporting a Republican accused of sexual assault,
13 percentage points higher than the share of Trump's
2024 voters, which include those who do not identify as MAGA.
By comparison, 40% of voters who backed former Vice President Kamala Harris in 2024
will continue backing a Democratic candidate accused of secular assault.
That means 60% wouldn't.
The point here, Joy, which I keep trying to explain to Democrats,
ain't no such thing as the old Republican Party.
These people care about power and they don't care about scandal.
they do not care about scandal.
Also, some of them do all the things that are listed there, right?
I mean, I have to, you know, there's, we assume a lot of good intent that everyone is good,
but frankly, there are a lot of people out there who have DUI and, you know, about both parties,
but, you know, there are a lot of folks out there.
And some of them see themselves in who I consider to be a few derelicts in the Republican Party.
but they see themselves in it.
Something to think about as we critique people.
We have to be careful because sometimes we're critiquing the voters.
And they don't think that they should have people better than them in the White House,
which is why sometimes they take comfort with Donald Trump or Pete Hegseth or any number of a loser
who is working in this administration, people that we would think are not fit.
They are like, sure, why not?
You know, I think the Democratic Party has got to be careful that we don't require perfection in our officials, but there ought to be some baseline if you've been accused of a sexual DVNC.
That's, that's, there's a line that you shouldn't cross.
And it's not fit for public service, especially when you really have an apologize for it.
Candace, you got a Republican Congress of Max Miller from Ohio who's been accused of beating, throwing high.
water and scalding his ex-wife. What's insane is his ex-wife is the daughter of the senator from Ohio Marino,
and he ain't said a damn word. How shameful is it that your daughter is, your daughter is accusing a Republican
congressman from your state of beating her, pulling a gun to her head, and you don't say jack publicly.
Damn.
Well, let's look at the laws that are out there and how we treat women inside of the legal system anyway.
I mean, that is a given that women are treated subpar than anybody else.
And men have always, especially white men, have been held up on a pedestal.
So this all makes sense and this all tracks in terms of how we regard people in power
and how we regard people in power and who we think those people should be.
And for those people who believe that a DUI is okay or sexual assault is okay, just like Joy said, they're in the company of people who are reflecting them.
So it makes sense that they would accept this type of lowest common denominator of, you know, just existing as a human being.
It all tracks, it all makes sense, and I don't think that any of us are surprised.
It is surprising hearing, you know, hearing that people were actually asked specific questions, a lot of things.
were assumed. But I think that this is how we are to understand how human beings regard themselves,
especially in light of what's going on in the world today. We just know that people don't see
the things that we thought were terrible in 1995 as something terrible today. They just don't see it
because a lot of people are doing the same things. Well, there's no shot, but they also care about
power, Michael. You see some of those videos where they would read to the people,
all these heinous things, and they would go, oh, that's wrong.
That's awful.
That's pathetic.
That's, I can't believe that.
Then they would say, oh, my bed, I'm sorry.
That wasn't biting.
That was Trump.
Then they were all, those same maggop, well, I don't know.
And it's like, wait a bit, but you just said how awful it was.
They give excuses when it's Trump and his maggots.
First and foremost, keep in mind that MAGA is a cult, okay, and it prays on ignorant people.
So you have to start with that premise.
And, you know, the Access Hollywood tape, when that was revealed, any other presidential candidate, that would have been the end of their presidency.
Okay.
And that was back in, that was back in 2016.
Okay.
So now you have Donald Trump who was found libel of sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll.
Okay.
and you said, and 66% of these Trump-Magget voters said they would excuse a Republican candidate
who was accused of sexual abuse.
72% said they would excuse a Republican candidate of domestic violence allegations,
what have you.
So they have totally—this was supposed to be the party of family values, Rowland.
What happened to that?
They've totally lost their morality.
But yes, this is a power grab.
is all about power. They have, they do not care about morality, but these are also the people
who claim to be Christians. No, this is white Christian nationalism that you have. This has
nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus, the Christ, or Yeshua. This is white Christian nationalism.
This is all about power, and these maggots have to be defeated.
All right, folks, got to go to break. We come back, a former FCC commissioner, I'll chat with her
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All right, folks, we have seen these insane people in Washington, D.C. do heinous things. One of the things we've seen them, we literally have
have never seen, probably since Nixon, and even Nixon, this is child's play, what Nixon did,
how they are using the apparatus of the federal government to try to bring to their needs,
corporations, including broadcasters. Donald Trump has threatened to revoke the licenses
of various companies for not reporting what he wants them to report. And Brendan Carr, his FCC
commission chair, is also doing that work for him. Mayn Young Clyburn,
and the former Federal Communications Commission, Chair, member, joins us right now.
Glad to see you.
I mean, you served on the FCC.
Have you ever seen anything what these folks are doing?
Well, number one, welcome to Sanchez, South Carolina.
And the answer is no.
When I got to the FCC, if you remember, a couple of years later,
we had this thing still in the Federal Register called the Fairness Doctor.
Now, it had been off the books technically since 87-ish.
FCC voted 4-0 to get rid of it.
Reagan was okay with that.
But it was still on the books because you had some people with some uneasiness.
So fast forward again to 2011 when they said, look, there's no need for this.
The whole landscape is changing.
You've got cable.
You've got all of these options.
Why do you need this?
Why do you need the quote-unquote equal time rule?
So we got rid of that, and I was there at that time.
It was one of the most uneasy votes I ever took.
I will say to you, but, okay, if you think things are relatively balanced, we have options.
Fast forward to 2014, because I had regrets.
And I said, let's look at the media landscape with a critical information needs study.
You're a journalist, so you know we were looking at that.
And we wanted to say, what does the landscape really look like,
especially for local television cover,
and what are people getting from that?
And do we have enough inclusion in these markets?
We got tart and feathered about looking at how dare we look at this.
Because, again, you've got all of these options.
And you have all of these options.
You have all of these freedoms.
If we don't want the FCC in the newsroom, which is what I was told,
I'm a little perplexed as to where we are now
because if we have all of these freedoms,
if we have all of these options,
if we don't want to be in the newsroom
or to talk to rooms and the light,
what are we talking about here?
I mean, you have Britain in the car that he said to companies,
if you don't get rid of your DEI programs,
I'm not approving any murders or acquisitions.
He has chastised companies
for their reporting of stories.
And now you have them, first of all, Trump extorted ABC for, with the Stephanopoulos lawsuit.
They settled that, paid them off.
Now you have cars saying, oh, we're going to review your licenses.
Early.
Yeah, an early review of the license based upon because they don't like ABC.
And I had Kathy Hughes on the show last week, and she said, look, we own radio stations.
We have to walk on eggshells because they could pull our radio licenses.
In 26, in the USA, we're talking about newsrooms, feeling that they don't have freedoms,
talk shows, feeling they're walking on eggshells.
I'm just standing here with you, not recognizing the agency that I love a lot.
I really don't.
So what do, what's the, we are in a relatively rural part of South Carolina, where the broadband
manager of this state said, we almost got things done.
Now almost getting things done in FCC and state talk is infrastructure.
We still have an affordability problem.
We still have a crisis here.
We still have access to information challenges.
We should be talking about that.
we get the tools that we need through the platforms like the internet and all of these
other platforms but no we're talking about what is happening in newsrooms what is
being covered what is being you know talked about if you have all of these
options and opportunities what does it matter because when I wanted more
inclusion and looking at a study I was meddling I was getting involved in
the newsroom I was attempting to tell
owners what to put on who to hire and how to conduct themselves.
So where are we here?
See, the reason is important because I need the audience to understand.
When you talk about even these nationally syndicated radio shows,
but people don't understand is those syndicated radio shows are being aired on radio stations.
Those radio stations have an FCC license.
Now, this is a digital show. We're on YouTube.
the FCC does not regulate YouTube.
The FCC does not people, even though the people keep yelling at the Fox News, the FCC does not regulate cable because that's not a broadcast license.
So the problem that we have is Donald Trump, what they're saying is if these black syndicated radio shows are getting too aggressive, they can literally say, oh, we're going to snatch those local licenses.
And what people don't understand is those local radio stations, they're not all quite.
owned. They're also owned by individuals. And so you have individuals, and a lot of those
individuals, even even the stations that are owned where you have urban stations, a lot of
those stations are owned by white conservatives. That was the issue with Tom Joyner,
with a Tom Joyner morning show. I remember David Cantor was like, well, you know, he was like,
we got to be careful having people on so many times. He kept talking about equal time, equal time.
And I was like, what the hell are you talking about? I said, Salem Broadcast.
I'm not doing equal time.
What the hell will be doing?
But he didn't want to tick up these white guys
who owned these stations that Tom's show was on.
So people need to understand.
They might be hearing, well, I'm FCC.
Does that impact me?
It does.
Because that station owner or that network could say,
hey, y'all hold that commentary down
because we don't want to tick the Trump people off.
Well, you know, one of the things that we assume
is that we can try.
trust those local and national personalities that come over the radio, television and a lot,
that we can trust our journalists to tell us the truth as distilled and as brought in,
at least some semblance of balance.
When you hear about people holding back, people, in some cases, self-censoring,
that erodes to me, the very thing.
foundation of this
democratic
experiment that we
have today. Because if you cannot
trust the media
then what do we have in terms
of the foundation of the democracy?
And if somebody else is putting a thumb on a scale
that is not
locally driven. Well, they're not putting a thumb
on the scale. Trump has put his fat ass on the scale.
I'll say that.
But the thing, but this is a perfect example of what we
keep saying, elections matter.
you may not understand that.
And people don't understand.
At ABC right now,
when their shows are on,
when the viewers having conversations,
ABC has lawyers that are in the control room
because they're watching every single word and phrase
because they're fearful of what Brendan Carr
and Trump will do the FCC to attack their corporation.
One of the things that I'm gratifying,
particularly no matter what platform that we had regulatory influence over is the fact that I didn't have to disagree with you.
Oh, I didn't have to agree with you.
In disagreement, that's empowerment.
We learn from each other.
Why would I want, how does this apparatus work if everything you say I agree with?
If everything you do, I'm okay with.
How do we grow and how do we learn more in terms of influence?
information and just knowledge of each other.
So if you are making the lens more narrow in terms of the information and the substance of what I give,
tell me what good does that, you know, do?
I learned the most from people I disagree with.
And we come to a more common occurrence, a common ground, and I find out more.
Right.
And we all grow from that.
And we're in a period of no growth, in my opinion.
Well, first of all, they don't want disagreement.
They want, it's a cult, they want you to completely follow whatever they say and do.
Last point, the caps.
We've had caps in saying that a group can only own a certain percentage of television stations.
Because what you do not want is you don't want for someone to own half the stations in the country
or 60, 70%, 80%.
Now they are considering lifting that,
and you have these companies by saying,
oh, well, because of the Internet,
those old rules don't apply.
That's nonsense.
Local television stations are still where a lot of people get their information from,
and what these people want,
look, you already have between Sinclair and NextStar,
especially when they had the Tegna merger.
No, those two stations, those two networks,
station groups own most of the local TV stations in the country.
They want to say there are no caps.
The caps protected diversity of ownership.
Your thoughts on that?
I am on record as having an issue with piercing that cap.
But we've been piercing it for a long time.
Right.
Oh, no, no.
They've been chipping away at it.
Exactly.
And then you had a VHF, UHF, that discount,
where what was once, dog spectrum, became just as
crime and then people started gobbling up that.
And, you know, the cap, even the cap that we're talking about has already been pierced.
Right.
Now we're talking about more overtly doing it.
Yep.
And honestly, just think about anything that we deal with.
When you have a monopoly or almost a super, a majority when it comes to our critical information needs,
very few of us went in that environment
very few of us
yeah that gets close to essentially being
like dictatorship state TV
all right man yong I appreciate it
thank you all right again good to be here
thanks a bunch I'll go to my panel
Mike I'll start with you
people need to understand
information is power
and Republicans they want to
own the information pipes
absolutely
Roland you know I've worked for
three radio stations
in my media career.
I used to sell local ads
for the time during the morning show.
I used to work for two FCC
regulated radio stations,
one in sales, one as
a talk show host.
And this is,
I think, when we deal with
affiliates and nasty syndicated
radio, under this administration,
this is something that they fear.
And I know that
you know,
things that you, you know, things
that
you can say on the radio that you probably could say under the Biden-Harris administration,
there's a fear of having licenses revoked or also a lot of people don't know that licenses have
to be renewed periodically, okay? And if you talk about certain things like FCC regulator
radio, you can't talk about medicinal marijuana because marijuana is still illegal at the federal
level, even though in different states, they've passed various laws where it's legal. Well, people can
file claims if they hear certain things on FCC regulatory radio that violates federal policy
as well.
So these are tough times, especially for African-American-owned media.
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I'm fine here, Joy.
People aren't talking about a lot of these issues.
You don't hear a conversation about the FCC on many of these other podcasts and shows.
I need people to understand if you are paying attention to what's going on, okay?
Under the Biden administration, they blocked that acquisition of Tegna.
Trump comes in.
They approved TECNA going to NextR.
Next star, conservatives.
Sinclair, conservatives.
They arranged a deal for Ticot to go to conservatives.
Twitter, bought by Elon Musk, racist.
Then you have CBS, Skydance, David Ellison, using his dad is money, Larry Ellison, who also controls TikTok.
Now they control CBS Paramount, which also owns BET.
Now, the Warner Discovery Deal, which means they will be owning CNN.
So when you start looking at the communication, what will they be owning?
Cable news, cable networks, TV.
studios, social media platforms, that means you can dictate what people are seeing and hearing.
It's called mass media for a reason, and people better understand if you have mass media
concentrated in the hands of the right wing, they will control the information flow to the people.
That's correct. And let me just say, there is no depth that these people will not resort to.
So we can expect once they consolidate for lies to come out.
And a lie can come out.
People will respond to it.
And even if they tell the truth later.
And frankly, they're trying out that now, right?
We talked about it earlier.
They file a fraudulent, ridiculous lawsuit.
It gets thrown away later, but they've made their political point.
And people don't hear about the cleanup, right, or the fact that they had to admit they were wrong.
This is their plan.
They can put out there.
They can say something that they know is incorrect.
It can spread like wildfire and they're putting it out through mass media that they will control,
long before we can even get it back, long before we can even make a correction.
This is their intent.
And we have to assume complete nefarious intent.
They are completely focused on power.
You office reference that earlier.
They understand power in a way that, you know, we have to.
haven't seen since 1937, okay, Germany.
That's what we're seeing right now.
That's what they're hoping for.
This is a clear part of authoritarianism.
They understand that better than we do.
And that is why in programs like this are so important,
because this is an area where they won't be able to control it as much.
And so we have to invest in online sources during this period.
and when we get power back, we have to make sure we are protecting all agencies, including the FCC.
You're correct. Elections matter.
Even agencies that you've never heard of and you're not paying attention to, if put it in the wrong hand can be quite damaging and it'll take a long time to unwind.
That's where we are.
But what we also have to recognize with what's going on, Candace, is how Trump
has been
dominating these companies.
The Wall Street Journal
has an article
talking about
essentially his corrupt
his corrupt fundraising.
How he literally says to companies,
yeah, y'all need to give me $25 million.
I need to give me $50 million.
How he's directing where it goes.
He's collected.
He's raised more than $800 million
for his pet projects.
And so even though we're talking
about the FCC and that's
broadcast, TV and radio.
He's basically saying to
any company, I'm
going to block you from doing deals.
Or if you pay to play,
I'm going to hook you up.
And he's doing that with technology
companies. So he's been doing that
with Google, with
meta, with Amazon.
And so I need people to just to really
understand.
Donald Trump is a
mob boss.
Donald Trump is
operating like Al Capone, like Lucky Luciano, where they're saying, if you don't pay us,
we're going to shut the porch down. We're going to shut the garbage trucks down. And all of
these, it's like you've never, you've never, ever, ever seen it to this extent. And the crazy
thing, Candace, it's blatant. It's clear. Because this punk-ass, this Supreme Court, Candace,
the Supreme Court, Michael, the Supreme Court joy, said to him, hey, whatever the president does is legal.
So, again, you put that sort of power in the hands of someone with no bottom, someone who is so corrupt, oh, they're going to do whatever, and that's what's going on.
He's doing stuff.
He didn't even do the first term because the Supreme Court allowed that to happen.
And you can't, you can't not have an imperial presidency.
That's what's going on.
Do we have Candace back?
All right, I want to give Candace for a last word.
But, but, but, but that's the thing, y'all, that has been, that's clear.
And we started this show with Congressman Jim Clyber and talk about our vote.
Y'all, this is the moment where we have to keep these thugs out of power.
it's it look it's clear listen he's there until january 29 but i'm telling you right now
these people are so despicable so corrupt they should not control the house they should not
control the senate and we've got to make sure that democrats are winning in these critical states
democrats have got to get the 218 in the in the house they've got to get to 51 52 votes
in the Senate because I'm telling you, if we let Republicans have two more years of total control,
I'm telling, first of all, we're not even sure there's going to be the election,
but they will do more damage to this country, and they will do more damage to black people,
and they will continue to rip apart, rip apart the institutions and the infrastructure that has gotten us to this point.
Is Candace back?
Okay, y'all, sorry.
Sorry, Candace froze, so we'll leave it at that.
Let me thank.
Let me thank Joy, let me think Michael, let me think Candace.
I've been on today's show.
I certainly appreciate it.
Thank you so very much.
Y'all, I am here in South Carolina,
Santee South Carolina, so as you see,
folks have been hanging out, mingling, drinking, eating food.
This is the paying party for Congress of Jim Clyburn's annual golf tournament,
36 annual golf tournament.
And so, yes, I will be playing.
And so decided to come here and do today's show.
So we appreciate him joining us.
Appreciate his daughter, Mignon Clyburn,
former FCC commissioner joining us as well.
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