#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Bloody Sunday Deconstruction, Chris Rock Netflix Special, SCOTUS Warhol Prince Image Case

Episode Date: March 7, 2023

3.6.2023 #RolandMartinUnfiltered:  Bloody Sunday Deconstruction, Chris Rock Netflix Special, SCOTUS Warhol Prince Image Case  President Joe Biden commemorates the 58th anniversary of "Bloody Sunday." I will fully deconstruct what happened and how some lawmakers use the same tactics today to keep black people from voting.  And The CEO of Operation Hope, John Hope Bryant, will help me break down the city's economic status that played an integral part in passing voting legislation.  The Supreme Court is set to consider if there's a line between inspiration and appropriation as they dig into Andy Warhol's silkscreen portrait of a 1981 photo of Prince. I'll talk to an Entertainment lawyer about intellectual property and the difference between art criticism and the law. Chris Rock Netflix's live Special, "Selective Outrage," came out this weekend. I will tell you what I thought about it. Today we will speak with a woman who is part of the 10-percent who survive a sudden cardiac arrest.  She'll detail the life-saving efforts that kept her alive to help others.  Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. We're going to talk about something that's very important. That is, you go to Selma once a year, but why hasn't Selma been rebuilt? Why is it that when politicians come there for their photo ops, they're not also leaving resources for the black folks who are there in Selma? John Hope Bryant, founder of Operation Hope, will join us to talk about that very issue. Speaking of economics, Viacom is talking about

selling a majority stake in BET, who is being talked about as the buyer? Tyler Perry will tell you about that. Supreme Court is set to consider if there's a line between inspiration and appropriation as they dig into Andy Warhol's soap screen portrait of a 1981 photo of Prince. We'll talk to an entertainment lawyer

about intellectual property and what could be at the heart of the Supreme Court decision. Also, a lot of folks are discussing Chris Rock's live Netflix special, Collective Outrage, took place on Saturday. He talked about Will Smith, the snap of the Oscars, and other issues. Yeah, I got a few talked about Will Smith, the snap of the Oscars, and other issues. Yeah, I got a few thoughts about that special, and I'll share it with you. Also, today was

the woman who was part of a 10% who survived a sudden cardiac arrest. She'll detail the life-saving efforts that kept her alive to help others. It is time to bring the funk. I'm Roland Martin, Unfiltered, on the Black Star Network. Let's go. Knit down from sports to news to politics With entertainment just for kicks He's rollin' With Uncle Roro, yo Yeah, yeah It's Rollin' Martin, yeah Yeah, yeah

Rollin' with Rollin' now Yeah, yeah He's funky, he's fresh, he's real The best you know, he's fresh, he's real, the best you know, he's rolling, Martin. Martin. Folks, yesterday a number of folks gathered in Selma, Alabama, for the commemoration of what took place on Sunday, March 7th, 1965. President Joe Biden, Reverend Alex Sharpton, Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr., Reverend Dr. William Barber, and others were in Selma on yesterday.

Of course, commemorating the march called Bloody Sunday, the actual anniversary date is in a couple of days. Of course, the day ended in violence when white state troopers and sheriff's deputies attacked, beat and killed, attacked and beat marchers. Again, it was known as Bloody Sunday, which led to, of course, the signing of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Before they marched across the Edmund Pettus Bridge, President Joe Biden spoke to those who were gathered there in Selma. Selma is a reckoning. The right to vote, the right to vote, to have your vote counted, is the threshold of democracy and liberty.

With it, anything's possible. Without it, without that right, nothing is possible. And this fundamental right remains under assault. The conservative Supreme Court has gutted the Voting Rights Act over the years. Since the 2020 election, a wave of states and dozens, dozens of anti-voting laws fueled by the big lie and the election deniers now elected to office. The new law here in Alabama, among other things, enacted a new congressional map that discriminated against black voters by failing to include what should have been a new predominantly black district. That case, as you all know better than I, is in front of the U.S. Supreme Court.

And my U.S. Department of Justice has joined many of you in arguing that the map violates the Voting Rights Act. All of this after a deadly insurrection on January the 6th. We must remain vigilant. In January, I signed the Electoral Count Reform Act to protect the will of the people and the people transferring the peaceful transfer of power. We know that we must get the votes in Congress to pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act and the Freedom to Vote Act. I made it clear I will not let a filibuster obstruct the sacred right to vote, the right of any other right to vote from there. So Biden lays all of this out.

It is not anything that we have not heard before. Of course, we know right now Republicans, they control the House. Democrats control the Senate. Even when Democrats control the House and the Senate, they were unable to get the John Lewis Voting Rights Act through. They were unable to get the other voting bill through both chambers because they could not get past a 60-vote threshold in the Senate. Now, there are many others, like Reverend Dr. William Barber, who have said that the Democrats should keep trying. They must

put another bill on the floor and force Republicans to vote that particular bill down. I agree with him 100%. He also was in Selma speaking at Brown Chapel. This is what he had to say on yesterday morning. You know, I don't have a lot to say tonight. I really came to listen and to hear about what's happening here in Selma and why there is such a need for a committed poor people's campaign in this state and across the South. I do want to say that the Bible sometimes people say in the Bible it says the poor will be with you always and they use that as an excuse scripture the poor will be with you always. And they use that as an excuse scripture. The poor will be with you always. So therefore people are poor.

It's their own fault. Or that's because they don't have a faith. Well if you say people are poor because they don't have faith. Then you say people are rich because they do have faith. And that ain't true. That can't be true. Right. The Bible actually teaches that the poor will be with you always. because they do have faith and that ain't true. That can't be true, right? The Bible actually teaches that the poor will be with you always

and you have to continue reading because of the greed of society. That's why the poor is with us always. Because of the systems that create poverty and low wealth. There are five of them, systemic racism, systemic poverty, ecological devastation, the denial of health care, the war economy, and the false narrative of religious nationalism when religion is used on the side of hate and meanness and not on the side of love.

Right now in your state, there are 200,000 people that don't have health care. It's not because they don't have faith. It's because your government and your legislature will not expand health care. And so we have to be very clear and careful when we talk. Poor people have always had faith. We know we're rich in faith.

But Jesus said, I come to preach good news to the poor, the patokos. And he said, but then you got to heal the brokenhearted. You got to bring sight to the blind. You got to recover. You got to release the captives. In other words, he says, when I was hungry, you fed me. When I was sick, you visited me. In other words, poverty has to be addressed by somebody doing

something it's not natural it's not God's ordained way in fact the Bible says in Isaiah 10 woe unto those who legislate evil and rob the poor of their rights and make women and children their prey

woe unto those who legislate evil. In other words, when you legislate evil, when you pass a policy that gives certain communities investment but other communities not, the Bible says

that's evil. When you refuse to pay people a living wage for a day's work, the Bible says that's evil. That had nothing to do with their faith. Right? And even if you make it up out of that, it doesn't mean folks should have to struggle like that. You know, I used to hustle pool. I ain't always been a preacher. And when you hustle pool, you set up shots that you're not supposed to be able to make.

That's how you fool people. So there are pool shots you can make by tilting the table up. And you shoot from that end. If you know what you're doing, you can shoot a ball uphill. But that's not how you're supposed to play pool. The table's supposed to be flat. Well, just because some folk make it out of poverty, it doesn't mean that's how it should be. Just because they work 17 jobs and do it, that's not how it should be.

People should make a living wage. When Dr. King marched on the march on Washington in 1963, they weren't just marching to feel good. One of the agendas was they wanted $2 an hour. $2 an hour minimum wage back then. You know what that would be today? $15. The minimum wage would be $15 an hour if we had listened to the prophet back then. The Bible says that the labor is worthy of his hire. So when you pay people less than a living wage, that's sin.

That's not right. And just because folk make it through that doesn't make it right. All right, folks, we come back. We'll talk with John Hope Bryan, CEO of Operation Hope, about how we must be expanding the conversation when we go back to Selma every year. Not having it keep having a political voting rights conversation. But where is the economic conversation as well? Folks, if you're watching Roller Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network, if you're on YouTube, hit the like button, the share button on Facebook as well. Folks, if you're watching Roller Martin Unfiltered on the Black Star Network, if you're on YouTube, hit the like button, the share button on Facebook as well, plus our app. Speaking of the app, download it, Apple phone, Android phone, Apple TV, Android TV, Roku,

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So I gotta be a gangster, I gotta shoot, I gotta sell, I gotta do this in order to do it. And it just becomes a cycle. But when someone comes around and is making other money, you we don't, you know, they don't wanna push it or put money into it. So that's definitely something I'm trying to fix too, is just show there's other avenues. You don't gotta be a rapper, you don't gotta be a ballplayer.

You can be a country singer, you can be an opera singer, you can be a damn whatever, you know? Showing the different avenues. And that is possible, and it's hard for people to realize it's possible until someone dies. Next, on The Black Table, with me, Greg Carr. We featured the brand new work of Professor Angie Porter,

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Folks, joining us right now is John Hope Bryan, the founder and CEO of Operation Hope. Of course, they do great work dealing with folks financially, trying to get their financial affairs in order, credit scores, things along those lines. John, you and I were talking yesterday, and a lot of people were hitting me up. They were asking me, hey, man, are you going to be in Selma? I said no. I was there a couple of years ago when Vice President Kamala Harris was there. And look, I mean, the speech is great. The president Biden went.

The speech is, you know, he gave a voting rights speech. But the thing that I said a couple of years ago and it actually it was like actually three or four years ago. And then when I went back with the vice president, I said, folks, I said, we keep allowing all these politicians, Republicans and Democrats on the national level. Then of course, for folks on the state level to come back to Selma. We have this commemoration. The fact of the matter is none of us stay in Selma. We actually go to be able to stay in Montgomery. We fly into Montgomery or Birmingham. Maybe we might buy some food and some water in Selma. But the reality is economically, it is still a deprived area. It is in the black belt. Educationally, it is in

dire straits as well. And so I believe as African-Americans, if we're going to keep talking about MLK and keep talking about this bridge crossing and keep talking about what he was dealing with, we had better deal with the money aspect and not get caught up in the photo op. Yes, the PhD work needs some PhD action. And the conversation about white and black and even red and blue, the debate needs some PH-do action. And the conversation about white and black and even red and blue, the debate, needs some green advancement. People forget, Roland, you don't,

that America was actually created as a corporation. The first entities were not democracies. They were corporations, and that's where we, they were sort of organized democratically. But it was a, we live in a democratic capitalist system, or we live in a capitalist democracy. And black folks never got that memo. It's not that we're dumb or we're stupid.

In fact, we're brilliant. When the rules are published and playing field is level, we kill it. Professional sports, the arts and entertainment, politics, the rules are published and playing field is level. We kill it. But is what we don't know that we don't know that's killing us? But we think we know, and no one's bothered to tell us. And as you know, the Freedmen's Bank was created by Abraham Lincoln,

run by Frederick Douglass, but it failed after Lincoln was assassinated. Going back to Selma and your prophetic statement, you're directly, absolutely on target. Let's go further. I mean, Dr. King's march, as you know, was about jobs and freedom. He said, I'm here to redeem the checkmarked insufficient funds or non-sufficient funds. And he also was bringing light in the Poor People's Campaign. God bless Reverend Barber, what he said. By the way, it was really entertaining.

We started talking about how he played pool, and now he's talking my language. That's quasi-economics, the pool game with a slightly different angle. But Ambassador Young and Andrew Young and Dr. King were coming from that different angle, Roland, when they hit the poor people's campaign about all people. And then they said the biggest group of poor people in America, then and now, were white poor people.

People don't know that. So we were all in this mess together, and he tried to get us out of this mess together. He didn't make it to his first march, but that didn't mean he didn't have the right business plan. Roland, I was there. I want to thank Dr. Ben Chavis, my friend, our friend, for inviting me. I'm so glad I went. But while they were, and because I was last, I was invited at the last minute, I didn't have the same credentials as everybody else, which was fine with me. They said, you want to get his credentials?

No, actually, why don't you guys do that? I'm going to go walk Memphis. I mean, Selma. And I went and walked while the president was speaking. I'm so glad he came. But I went and walked from the hotel to downtown Selma. My mouth is on the ground. It's like time stood still.

It's like it was 1968, literally. No e-commerce, no sophisticated businesses. I'm not saying that not the operators weren't sophisticated, that these were mom and pop operations using the most basic rudimentary tools to run a business, because clearly they did not have access to capital. They had lots of hustle, but not access to capital. Some of the best food I've ever eaten, by the way. Oh, and to your point, Dr. Chavis said, John, most of these vendors here on the street over,

because I was on the street with nobody, where no tourists were at, these were mostly not from Selma. They're from Atlanta. They're from other places. They come here. And we weren't asked. And they were from Atlanta. They were everywhere else, just like he said.

So it's not even local economics on that date. Rolling. The credit score is 614 to 640 in Selma. You can't get access to capital that way. You can't get a decent car loan at $615,000 or $620,000. You get a Mercedes as Mercedes payments. You can't get a decent mortgage to become a homeowner under $680,000. There's not a credit score in Selma on average at $680,000.

So the homeownership rate for black folks there is probably 20%. How do you build wealth in America? The number one way, you and I talked about this, homeownership. You pull equity out of your home to start a business, to send your kid to college for a rainy day. But you got storms coming, and it was recently a natural disaster there that visited upon them not so long ago, and everybody's still waiting for the FEMA money as if it's manna from heaven.

There's no economic development going on there and hasn't been, and you can't start a business, get a business loan less than 700 credit score. No matter how nice you are, you pay your taxes, you go to church every Sunday because it's risky credit. So if half of black folks in America have a credit score below 620, half of us are locked out of the free enterprise system. But everybody in Selma is locked out of the free enterprise system. Where is the march on capital, not just the march on history?

Where is the campaign to organize the earning of tax credit for everybody in Selma qualifies for EITC? That's a free check for anybody who works and makes $50,000 a year or less, as you well know, Roland. But one out of four people who qualify for EITC, read Black People, never get it because we don't ask for it because we don't have a tax preparer. You make $38,000 a year, got three children. The governor owes you about $7,000 cash. If you never filed, if you say, what's the ITC? Congratulations. You get three years of it. That's what, Roland, what? Almost $20,000, about $20,000. Then you get three years of pandemic stimulus money for your tax credit. That's $3,000 per kid. That's nine grand. You got 30 grand

against a $35,000 income to go put the down payment on your house, to get your credit straight, to send your kid to college, to start a business. But we don't know that because no one's teaching us that. I'm not talking about sophisticated stuff here, Roland. I'm talking about basics. There's no, I couldn't find the economic development department there. Well, first of all, understand Selma has the highest unemployment rate of any city in Alabama. We're talking about, and I think what has to happen, I think what has to happen

is... Where I was at, the hotel, I think it's called the St. James, I think it is. It's a Hyatt. It's the only modern development at the Pettus Bridge. By the way, as you know, the Pettus Bridge is named after a Southern segregationist. Why is it still named after a Southern segregationist? Hello. But the Edmund Pettus Bridge, that whole area should be bustling with tourism, restaurants, cafes, coffee shops, five different hotels competing for customers. There should be a marketing campaign for the state of Alabama pushing people into Selma because of tourism.

This activity creates GDP, creates jobs, creates tax base, which creates more economic opportunity. And one thing, like a flywheel spins off of each other and creates more wealth. But there's a ghost town around that bridge. I don't understand it right at the bridge. How could it look like 1960? So I'm not talking about some sophisticated thing, Roland. I'm not talking about way out blocks away Roland. I'm not talking about way out blocks away, although I walk there. I'm talking about, as you know, right at the bridge,

there's one hotel run out of food. The hotel ran out of food. Okay, over to you. Now, and so what I have been saying is that if we're going to, and look, if we're going to talk about going back to Selma next year, 59th anniversary next year, election year, this is what I say. Call the major, in fact, here's the whole deal, John. As opposed to other people doing it, fine. I say we do it. Let's say we're going to call for the top CEOs in Alabama and some of the top companies in America to come to the Selma

and say versus having, again, because the way it works, they have stuff on Friday. They have things on Saturday, workshops on Saturday. And then, of course, they have the recreation on Sunday. Thursday, Friday, I dare say, economic conversation. In saying, let's not come back for the 60th in 2025 and it looked the same. Let's sit here and say, what's the labor force?

What's the education force? How do we start driving economic conversation? Because when Congressman John Lewis was alive, I would see these Republicans come in and these Democrats and they would take the bus tour and it would be like a field trip for them. And I'm like, how the hell you go back to D.C. and you come back to Selma next year and it looked the same and it sounds the same. We've got to be having a different conversation, not just having a recreation of the march every year?

I think I know the answer to the problem question, Roland. And I want to thank you for pricking me, by the way. It was you and Dr. Ben Chavis. Ben Chavis was having the same conversation with me yesterday. He's equally frustrated. We thank the president for coming. Please don't, if anybody in the White House is watching this, we're not criticizing you. We're thankful that you brought attention to this. We're thankful President Clinton before and Vice President Harris for coming and all the heroes and sheroes. We're thankful for Congressional Black Caucus leaders for coming. They were all there. Maxine Waters, God bless her. And what's the gentleman from North Carolina who's a genius?

It'll hit me. I mean, He's the dean of black politicians. He was there. No, no, no. You mean South Carolina Clyburn. South Carolina Clyburn, without which there'd be no Biden presidency. We all know that. Doesn't get the credit he deserves.

And Sheila Jackson Lee. Thanks for all of them coming. I'm not criticizing them. I'm saying there's a piece missing. Where are the black business people? Before we get to all business people, why is it that I was the only black businessman that I saw? There may have been more there.

But I was the only black entrepreneur or black business person that I saw there. Thank you, Ben Chavis, for inviting me. There should have been 100 black business people there, to your point, Roland. And if you have these type A personalities who are used to execution, the policymakers make policy. But there's nobody executing on a vision here. We're type A personalities. We see a problem. We want to attach a solution to execution. The policymakers make policy, but there's nobody executing on a vision here. We're type A personalities. We see a problem, we want to attach a solution to it, okay? We wouldn't have left there without giving $10,000 to a church

to start an F school program or a financial literacy program. We wouldn't have left there without saying, let's do a 5K march next year and then put somebody in charge of that, and that would have created its own economic activity. By the way, who would have created his own economic activity. And by the way, who would have been in that five-car march? Some of the white folks in Selma.

So it's because it was all black, by the way. It should be an integrated situation around healing. That would have brought some more economic development and integration of the money there. You would have these hundred black people who come there as business people, used to achievement, leaving there saying, I got to do one thing. I got to do something. And then you start talking about the broader business community you're talking about as well. But there was none of them there that I could tell. So I'm not criticizing.

I'm saying it's set up to be historical in nature. But what you need is for this to be about economic growth in nature. We need a civil rights movement, not just a civil rights movement. You need both. Well, look, I say, look, I'm a firm believer in not waiting on somebody else to do it. Let's say, let's do it next year.

And if those who don't want to show up, it'd be very telling, especially those who are already in Alabama. But I think we have got to pair the economic piece with the political piece and have those two come together. And so let's work on it and let's make it happen. I would be honored to work with you on that.

Ph.D. is good. Ph.D.s, as I said earlier, are better. There are customers there. There are clients there. There are employees there. There are brilliant black people there who could become business owners and entrepreneurs. You know that, Roland. Our brilliance is everywhere.

We just need a shot. We need the education. And financial literacy. I was walking today, Roland. Financial literacy has to be the cheapest economic development plan on the planet. Because what you're doing, you're saying, I can't solve racism. I can't solve police brutality. I can't solve the bias.

But I can get your credit score up. I can get you to understand what a budget is. I can get you to start arguing with your wife about money. I can get you to understand just between cash flow and making a profit and building wealth. You build wealth in your sleep. I can get you to understand that because you're smart. And I can teach

you that so you can do for yourself the James Brown version of affirmative action, open the door, I'll get it myself. You have a whole population of folks getting it for themselves, Roland, as you well know. And you'll create economic energy and that grows GDP and tax base and solves all the problems. Indeed.

John Hope Bryant, founder of Operation Hope. We appreciate it. Tell people where they can follow you guys. OperationHope.org or social media for me and Operation Hope by name. But follow Roland Martin, support his network, subscribe to it. We do. And Roland, if you organize that next year, count us in and we'll help to get you CEOs present at the meeting and some black entrepreneurs and a hundred black men and others should rally all

around what you're talking about. It's a radical movement of common sense. It is the next. We've got to move from just protesting in the streets. We need that. Yep. To business deals in the streets. That's it.

All right, John, we're going to work on it. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Love and light. Folks, got to go to break. We'll be back. Roland Martin unfiltered on the Blackstar Network. On the next Get Wealthy with me, Deborah Owens, America's Wealth Coach,

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What's up? I'm Lance Gross, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Actually, just what happened here? Elliot wanted me to say, one and a half. A video last year when I was in Selma with the vice president, March 6th of last year, for the 57th commemoration. I want to bring in my panel right now to talk about this conversation. Because I really, and I'm just being y'all, I really was a little pissed off yesterday. Because we keep doing this, and it drives me insane. Dr. Julianne Malveaux, Dean of College of Ethnic Studies, California State University in Los Angeles.

Dr. Amakongo Dabinga, Senior Professorial Lecturer, School of International Service, American University. Renita Shannon, former Georgia State Representative. Glad to have all three of you here. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Long Victoria Burke with NNPA Jones. Sorry, folks. I'm going to start with you, Julian. It continually pisses me off, Julian.

We go back to Selma. We go back to Memphis. And we have these recurring events and we play speeches. We talk about, we recite what King said or John Lewis said, or I mean, we can go on and on and on. And I sit there and I'm like, all right, the hotels were filled, car service, restaurants. And I always ask, are black folks getting paid? Are we making money from this? And to me, it makes no sense having all these politicians, and I told y'all to pull the photos of all the different political people.

Let me know if y'all got that slideshow. All these folks, they're posting photos, being in Selma, and I'm sitting here going, but where is the economic plan to rebuild Selma versus let's go for the annual Edmund Pettus Bridge photo op? You know, rolling out with you, and I think John made, John Hope, Brian made some really good points.

I'm sick of it too, because if you had that many people there, that was an economic opportunity. Why don't we have a black hotel, black owned hotel and sell all those people going there? Why not at least have a black hotel, black-owned hotel, and sell to all those people going there? Why not at least let a black company make some money from that, catering, all of that? The problem is, I mean, we are so caught up in the politics that we don't think about

the economics. And they go hand in hand. And we see that when you see people purchasing members of Congress, purchasing them just like they buy a Tesla or something else. Politics and economics go hand in hand, but you cannot ignore economics. And time again in our community, people ignore economics. There are so many opportunities that we're letting slide through our fingers because we simply will not pay attention to economics. The point that John made about the credit scores is a very frightening one. If the average credit score for black folks in Selma is six something, I think he said, I don't know,

I forgot, 620, 630. That's pitiful. You can't buy a house. You can't get a credit card unless you prepay it. So the economic piece is what we're missing. And I think that those who organize these things would be well, do well if they would at least, as you said, you said, take a day or take two days, have some workshops and bring some CEOs. Let's hear what they have to say, because after all, the denial of voting rights is not just a black thing. It's a national thing. But what do these CEOs have to say about it? They, too, are part of America. So we can't just say this is a black event. We're going to walk across the ridge. There's more to it than that.

Absolutely. And and I just I just think, Renita, that if you're going to have elected officials there for the photo op, you should be saying, hey, what, I'm sorry, Lauren, Lauren, I'm sorry, it's not just people at the Selma commemoration, as you know, Roland. It's people who are in power who allocate money all over the country and all over the world. We just landed $113 billion in Ukraine. We give billions of dollars in humanitarian aid around the world. The United States does. And yet there's no forward discussion with regard to towns like Selma. And the idea that to economic inequality and the real monuments to economic inequality in the United States is the school system, obviously the lack of, you know, aid to cities like this. And it's just sort of like this forever. You know,

we're all aware of all these stories about the water systems not working in some of these poor black towns, particularly in the South, but also in Flint, Michigan. So the idea that the people who are going down there are unaware of this is ridiculous. The irony and the sort of silliness around some of these Republicans who've gone down there. I think Tim Scott went down there. You know, Kevin McCarthy went down there one year. It's a fairly absurd situation. Then they go back to Washington, allocate billions of dollars to everything except towns like Selma. That to me, though, is a result of a lack of demand in the black community from our leadership ranks. I mean, you have to demand something of people to get something. And we oftentimes are not demanding what is needed for a town like Selma.

You know, Omicongo, I just think that again, and I said this when I was there and it may have been 21, it may have been 20, maybe a 19, I can't remember. And I was, I just said, guys, stop letting these politicians come here for the photo op

and nothing is done. Stop it. Yeah, most definitely. And I felt like you, Roland. I was like, I'm not going to watch this because everyone's going to say, oh, President Biden came and he said the right things. Of course he's going to say the right things because he has a speechwriter. So they know what

to say when they get down there. But really, at the end of the day, our leaders, Urban League, National Action Network, all of these groups that are credentialed to be walking across the bridge with the president, you know, they need to yes, yes, all of these groups that are credentialed to be walking across the bridge with the president. You know, they need to. Yes, yes. They commend them for that. But they need to demand more. There needs to be a platform for next year. You know, Cliff Albright with Black Voters Matter say we have to do more. This is time for Biden to go to the next level. And sure, folks at the Biden White House will say, well, we're doing this for HBCUs and we're doing this.

They're doing a lot of good things for our community, but we can't settle. And I feel like with the Biden administration, they have settled a little bit with what they're doing because we've let them settle, because we go with these photo ops like you talked about. And we're talking about some of being over 80 percent black. And when John is talking, he's talking about walking through there and it's looking like nothing has changed in 30 or 40 years. But let an organized company like Marriott or Coca-Cola or something come in and say, we just want to renovate it and turn this into a bunch of condos or something, then people are going to be protesting. We have to be proactive, Roland, and get down there with a real solid economic program. We're talking about Selma. You want to talk about Dr. King. How many

times on this show, Roland, have you mentioned Dr. King's economic message about how collectively we are rich, about how we may need to boycott places like seal tests and Coca-Cola to get what we want? There was always an economic message of empowerment in Dr. King's message, and we cannot forget that. And if we're going to continue to go down there, not have economic demands as we walk over a bridge still named after a Klansman and member of the Confederacy, at the end of the day, we are losing and they are winning. Our ancestors deserve more. The people who are still with us who fought during that time deserve more. Selma deserves more than a day with some decorations and some credentialed folks walking

around. We need to preserve the history for the future, man. We have to do it the right way. And people need to follow what you and John are demanding that we do. Folks, it's just real simple. I mean, we can continue to do the same things over and over and over again, or we can actually demand for something to be done different. And I dare say do something that's done different. And I'm sitting here, I'm looking at my Twitter feed, go to my iPad. And I'm sitting here, I'm pulling up all these different videos. I'm pulling up all these, again, all the videos that folks had

of individuals walking. And so here are photos here. And you see, again, all different folks who are in this photo. You see Congresswoman Maxine Waters. You see the president, Al Sharpton, Congressman Jesse Jackson, senior son, Congressman Jonathan Jackson. I mean, we can go on and on and on. Here's a video as well. You got Kristen Clark there with the Department of Justice. But y'all, I see my to be advancing an economic agenda as well. Can't happen. Simply cannot happen. That must also be our focus.

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Hi, I'm Teresa Griffin. Hi, my name is Latoya Luckett, and you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Smoke, y'all know what happened to me. Getting smacked by Suge Smith. Everybody knows. Everybody fucking knows. Yes, it happened.

I got smacked like a year ago. Fucking last week, I got smacked in the fucking Oscars by this motherfucker. And people like, did it hurt? It still hurts. I got summertime ringing in my ear. Fucking drums, please. All right, y'all. Saturday night, Chris Rock went live on Netflix with his Outrage special. And there's been a lot of folks who have been commenting on social media,

sharing their thoughts, and there are folks who are angry and upset. Chris used the N-word. They're angry and upset because he called Jada Pinkett Smith the B-word. They're angry and upset because he called Jada Pinkett Smith the B-word. They're angry and upset that he alluded to or he talked about watching Emancipation,

the movie starring Will Smith, to see him get beat by a white man and all that sort of stuff like that. They upset y'all because he cracked jokes about Meghan Markle as well and all of that. So I'm just very curious. Saturday night, was that a comedy show that happened Saturday night? Or was he giving a keynote address?

Because I'm just trying to understand why are people so mad that a comic told jokes? Now, let me be perfectly clear. I know Chris. I know Will. I know Chris. I know Will. I know Jada. And nobody wants to have jokes made about them. But that's what comics do.

I've been in the show. I'm just understanding we are so damn sensitive. I'm watching, why did this comedy show take place in Baltimore? He's not from there. That wasn't a personal affront to Jada because she's from there. Why was it it's shot in Philadelphia? Y'all, comedians do comedy shows in a lot of places they ain't from. The Kings of Comedy, which was shot by

Spike Lee, was shot in Charlotte. Bernie Mac ain't from Charlotte. D.L. ain't from Charlotte. Said ain't from Charlotte. Steve Harvey ain't from Charlotte. Said ain't from Charlotte. Steve Harvey ain't from Charlotte.

So what the hell are we doing? Oh, I mean, the jokes he was... Do I need to remind everybody that one of the seminal Chris Rock comedy specials that is considered one of the greatest all time was, I'm so mad I left the damn DVDs at home, is called Bring the Pain. In Bring the Pain, Chris Rock cracked jokes about Mary and Barry being a crackhead at the Million Man March

he talked about OJ killed his wife and said I ain't saying it's right but I understand we could go on and on so this notion that nobody can be made, I saw somebody say, well, I'm just tired. I'm just tired of these comedians punching down. That's what they do. When I go to a comedy show, I am not expecting a damn intellectual debate between Cornel West and Michael A. Dyson. I'm not. When I go to a comedy show, I'm not expecting to see Thomas Sowell and Julianne Malveaux give me a breakdown about micro and macro economics. When I go to a comedy show, I'm not expecting to see

Dr. Cynthia Hale and Pastor Jamal Bryant give me an exegesis of the text. I'm expecting to go to a comedy show to hear somebody get talked about. Because that's what comics do. If we really want to sit here and stop playing these silly-ass games, and yes, I'm calling them silly games,

because there's this notion that, oh no, you can't talk about anybody. Really? Really? Did comics talk about Bill Clinton when he was president? Do comics talk about how old Joe Biden is? Do other comics talk about racism? Oh, and then you got all the folk. See, here's part of the deal.

We're now living in a world where news stories and think pieces are now being written where we are deconstructing the jokes. Y'all pull up the tweets. The Daily Mail, Fox News, Megyn Kelly, everybody writing about it. Pull it up. Pull it up. Come on. Chris Rock mocks Meghan Markle's royal racism claims in comedy special. Sometimes it's just some in-law shit.

No, no, no. go back, go back. The root word is comedy special and mocks. Then you got Megyn Kelly, her silly ass. She goes, Chris Rock nails it. The Daily Mail story, Chris Rock slams Meghan Markle for telling Oprah family was racist. It's called joke. Now,

y'all know what's interesting? Y'all got the Fox News tweet? Y'all got that one? Pull that one. That's Fox News tweet, y'all. This is the Fox News tweet right here. Now, y'all notice This is the Fox News tweet right here. Now, y'all know this.

Fox News and Megyn Kelly, they ain't say shit about Chris Rock's joke about how white men are not victims. Oh. See, if y'all didn't watch the special, first of all, I saw Chris in St. Louis, him and Dave Chappelle. So, pretty much, he was practicing many of these jokes. So I actually saw it, but I did today watch the full special. Y'all notice all these conservatives and liberals, they had nothing to say when Chris Rock said, oh, what a white men were climbing the walls on January 6th,

like the white planet of the apes. Oh, no, no, we ain't talking about that. Oh, St. Chris Rock talked about abortion. Yep, sure it did. The St. Chris Rock talked about raising kids. All kind of stuff. But I'm just trying to understand when do we get to the point that we are expecting comics to be giving us presidential level speeches and dissertations on life in America. Think back to Don Rickles, Rick Ducamond, Monique, Bernie.

I mean, we could go on. George Carlin. We could go on and on. Comics make jokes about all sorts of people. Monique used to crack on skinny women. Then she cracked on fat women. Now today, oh, no, why are you talking about skinny women and fat women? We've had comedians talk about light-skinned people, dark-skinned people. Hell, Chris

talked about white women being brought home and bringing a white man home. Y'all, what are we doing? Why are we as a society so damn sensitive that we now are analyzing comedy shows as if they are sermons? They're not. If you don't like Chris Rock, don't take your ass to a Chris Rock show. Real simple. If you don't like Lisa Lampanelli, and if you didn't like Ralphie May, and when he was alive, if you don't like Ali Sadiq, I can go on and on. Don't take your ass. If you are so damn sensitive, and you don't want

to hear a joke about nobody straight, nobody gay, nobody trans, nobody married, nobody single, nobody rich, nobody poor, nobody tall, nobody short, nobody skinny, nobody

fat, nobody light skin, nobody dark skin. You won't talk about somebody with natural hair, processed hair. If you don't want to hear any of those jokes, my suggestion is you don't go to a comedy show. My suggestion is you don't watch comedy specials or watch Comedy Central because you're likely going to be offended. Comics always go after the joke. That's what they do. Why are we tripping? Because comics are doing what they do. I'll talk to my panel on the flip side of this. You're watching Roll Up Mountain Unfiltered

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Zelle is Roland at RolandSMartin.com. A lot of these corporations or people that are running stuff push black people if they're doing a certain thing. What that does is it creates a butterfly effect of any young kid who you know Wants to leave any situation they're in and the only people they see are people that are doing this So I got to be a gangster. I got a shoot. I got a cell I got to do this and wanted to do it and it becomes a cycle But when someone comes around is make another oh, we don't you know, they don't want to push it or put money into it

So that's definitely something I'm trying to fix to is your show There's other avenues you don't got to be rapping rapper, you don't gotta be a ballplayer. You can be a country singer, you can be an opera singer, you can be a damn whatever, you know? Showing the different avenues. And that is possible, and it's hard for people to realize it's possible until someone does. Hi, I'm Gavin Houston.

Hey, what's up, y'all? It's your boy, Jacob Lattimore, and you're now watching Roland Martin right now. Eee! All right, welcome back to Roland Martin Unfiltered. I'm a Congo. I just... This is one of the stupidest comments. This is what Akeem Smith just wrote on YouTube. Brother Roland, people's feelings are real. Comedians need to understand this also. wow uh you know i think one of the challenges here is that what it really comes down to

particularly with black comedians and black entertainers in general is that mainstream society takes our black comics and looks at them as leaders in our community as opposed to being comedians sustained go ahead when when steve ty uh when uh steve harvey sorry wrote his book you know act like a woman think like a man there people were calling him their relationship expert as if they're not you know black relationship experts out there when chris rock did the the documentary good, a few years ago, people were talking about him as a black hair expert. And when there's issues going on in the civil rights in the black community, who do people call? Charles Barkley to get up there and speak. And then in places like Fox, you get the Diamonds and Silks. And so people take these folks who are not serious as

relation leaders in our community. And because they don't really respect Black intellect and won't do the work to call up the Roland Martins or the Dr. Malvoz or the Lawrence, like we have on the Black Star Network every single day, they put these guys in the place of our leaders, and then they attach all these expectations to them that they don't attach to other comedians. As someone who

teaches on a college campus, I know that there are a lot of comedians of all backgrounds nowadays who are scared to come to campuses because they feel like they can't make jokes because people are going to attack them. And I think it's particularly heightened for Black comedians. And so I feel like at the end of the day, I agree with you. We need to relax. And I think that we can't get on our comics. I'm not saying comics get a free pass on everything, but like you said, they have a job. They have a role, and they are not black leaders. They are not leaders

in our community. They're comedians. But they're not our leaders. Leave it alone. Julian, I had a professor who I saw comment today who said that there's a photographer who he follows

and who does very tasteful images, nude images. He's a photographer. And that, they say porn, this is art. This professor liked one of the images. And several students complained to the professor's boss that they felt unsafe because he liked the photo and his boss said that's a grown-ass man who can like what he wants to like how are you unsafe and it's a and? And so I'm watching these people.

And let me be real clear. I absolutely get it. If you're Jada Pinkett Smith, if you're Will Smith, or hell, if you're anybody, you don't want anybody mocking you, cracking jokes on you. but I have seen numerous. I have seen literally thousands of comedy shows where I have seen sports folks being mocked, actors, actresses, political people, journalists, folk with no hair, little hair Lots of hair I mean, I've seen If we are sitting here at a comedy show, Julian

And if I'm sitting next to you And depending upon where we're sitting A comedian, you never know Might crack on your red hair and your light skin Might crack on my hair Might crack on something Lauren's wearing And, oh my God He's making them feel uncomfortable might crack on my hair, might crack on something Lauren wearing. And oh my God, he's making them feel uncomfortable.

Why does he have to say that? I'm like, yo, it's a fucking comedy show. This is what comics do. I don't understand why people don't understand this is what they do. Historically, present day, Red Fox, Richard Pryor, Moms Mabley, Dick Gregory. I can go on and on and on. My goodness.

You know, Roland, one of my funniest memories I heard, I went to see Robin Williams. Remember him? He talked about everybody. He talked about everybody. He talked about me like a red-headed dog. I had the temerity to get up to go to the restroom. And he said, why is that itch?

Go to the restroom while I'm talking. Hold up. Stop right there. Hold up. Hold up. Stop right there. So you got, first of all, anybody know you didn't get your ass up he on the microphone okay so so he called you to b word you didn't hop on twitter and go i'm offended robin robin harris called me out of my name he insulted me i cracked up big time i thought the

thing was hilarious i mean he not only mean, he got on my red jacket. Red is my favorite color. He got on my hair. He got to be getting up. And then he said, and she ain't got no man here either. Uh-uh. She looked like she did. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Julianne, stop right there. Stop right there. Stop right there. So this woman, Jennifer Triplett, this is what she just said. Can a woman please step in and be a voice? This is crazy. Look at Roland Cussing. This is why I don't watch, but you watching.

She says, there is comedy and there is angrily called. She goes, there is comedy and there is angrily calling a black woman a bitch. As if, Julian, didn't you just, didn't you just say that Robert Harris used the B word? Yes, he did. And talked about me like a, like a, you know, striping dog. Yes, he did. And what was hilarious is

afterwards, we're leaving, and he asked me, he asked me my name, and he said, can I get a hug? So I, I, he wanted to see if he got to me. He didn't get to me. You go to a comedy show, that's what happened. I do not like two things, and it depends on when. But sisters ain't contextual. If you are, I mean, I don't like women being called itches in other settings.

In comedy, almost anything goes. I mean, literally, almost anything goes. I don't like the use of the N-word either for any number of reasons. Same here. In comedy, almost anything goes. I mean, literally, almost anything goes. I don't like the use of the N-word either, for any number of reasons. Same here. In comedy, almost anything goes. If you want to be politically correct, go to the Smithsonian and see an exhibit. But you're not going to get

politically incorrect comedy. Now, there are some comedians who are racist, and we want to holler about them. But I think Chris Rock, by the way, is just hilarious. So I didn't watch it. Now you have motivated me to watch it. And quite frankly, regarding William

and Jada, they set themselves up for that. They are very blessed. That's all. That's all he said. I mean, come on. The brother punched Chris Rock in public. I mean, it's a wonder he didn't say worse about it. I, you know, I just want, now I want to see the whole thing, because from what you

said in the little clips we've seen, it is hell-error. If you punch a comedian, they gonna make a joke out of it, Lauren. Dave Chappelle got attacked on stage. We went, I saw the show. Dave Chappelle got attacked on stage at L.A. The Hollywood

Bowl, and he said, man, all my friends came out, and they beat the shit out of the dude. Dave Chappelle got attacked on stage at LA the Hollywood Bowl and he said, man, all my friends came out and they beat the shit out of the dude. He said, he said, sorry Chris, didn't nobody come out to help your ass when you got attacked. I mean, it was hilarious, but I'm sitting here,

I'm literally sitting here and I'm just not understanding people who are, they're like parsing everything. Oh, he mentioned colorism. He said Draymond Green was so dark that he was sitting right next to him. You wouldn't know he was standing right there. Chris is dark skinned.

I mean, I just, I don't get this hypersensitivity about everything. And we're treating comedians like they are, again, scholars, preachers, politicians and CEOs. Yes. Speaking of Dave Chappelle, I actually thought I watched it right before the show. Chris Rock special. I he reminded me a lot of Dave Chappelle. I actually thought he was trying to sort of pull a Dave Chappelle and some of the topics He brought up like abortion But you know the thing about this is that what I think is driving this entire thing is that there is currency and outrage The way that these news organizations make money is clicks through outrage the way that these social media sites get attention is clicked through

outrage so the entire conversation, every time somebody says something controversial, is driven by what can get attention. And Roland, you saw Chris Rock's special. He has a moment in there where he talks about how society is now addicted to attention and the four ways you get attention. And of course, one of them was victimhood and showing your ass and being infamous. And he's absolutely correct about that. I mean, it's it's so but attention is is in the society we live in now, the way the metrics work behind the media business is that the clicks for outrage, the think pieces, the analyzing everything that everybody says, the being angry about everything, the hitting the like button, the getting people to hit the like button.

What gets people to hit the like button is to be saying that you're outraged about something. People spend all day on Twitter doing that. OK, and that's how they get attention in their life. So a lot of this sensitivity, I think what we would say is hypersensitivity in our society that we didn't see previous to Facebook and Twitter and everything else, I think is actually driven by that, you know, by that economy, by that creator economy, outrage economy. And there's a lot of money behind that in a lot of ways. So that's part of what we're seeing with the Chris Rock thing. He did go in hard at the end in that last 10 minutes, obviously, on Jada Pinkett. He brought up a lot of things that had already been previously brought up. So I'm not sure why we're acting as if this

is new information. To be quite candid, I really could care less about any of these people outside the fact that there are movies that I like. I mean, I loved Independence Day. I love a lot of things Chris Rock has done. But I really don't care about celebrities that much. But I will say that I was a little surprised as somebody who's not a huge, huge Chris Rock fan at the level of nuance that he brought to this hour, you know, particularly around some of the more controversial topics. But I did realize as I was listening, this is exactly the type of thing, and I think he's smart enough to realize that, this is exactly the type of subject matter that will drive a lot of think pieces, a lot of attention, and a lot of concert bookings for him. And everybody gets fed all the way around,

not only just him, but the media and everything that drives the creator outrage clickbait economy. Here's a perfect example. This Saint Jennifer Triplett. Do we not operate by a certain code of conduct? Let somebody call his daughter Lola a bitch. Okay, here's a perfect example. Go to my iPad. Kevin Hart did a special during COVID, and he made a comment about his teen daughter. And, oh, my God, Kevin Hart said this about his teen daughter. And he was like, are y'all serious?

He's a comedian. Comedians The other day I saw a three minute long video That was utterly hilarious Of Rodney Dangerfield Cracking jokes about his wife Flat out hilarious I have seen comedians

Crack jokes about their husbands. I've seen people go in on all sorts of different things. And we're so sensitive. Oh, my God, you shouldn't say that and say that again. Let me be very clear, y'all. Julian said it. I don't like the N-word. Somebody hit me.

Well, Roland, how did you feel? You block people for using the N-word while you were at the show. I'm like, duh. First of all, hell, if that's the case, it's a bunch of music I can't listen to, okay? So it's not like I'm sitting here going, oh my God, I'm just removing everything. Here's the problem, folks. The problem, the fundamental problem that we have today is that we are trying to judge certain people on certain things and not all things are equal. Now, when Michael Richards was on stage and Michael Richards went after the audience member using the N word, here's what he did. He literally left con i was on cnn i said this with paul mooney he left the confines of the stage he wasn't doing his stage work he left the confines

of his stage and was attacking that man personally different deal now and he wasn't even responding to a heckler what julian described was Robin Harris' style. When you went to that club in Los Angeles, everybody knew. If you sat up front, you were in trouble. If you got up, you were in trouble. What did Robin Harris say? Put the light on. Everybody know that.

That's why Julian Was laughing she was there He would go hey put the light on So I'm just trying to understand What have we got Somebody told me well Chris These other comedians they've not Evolved no maybe the Problem is we've

Evolved so much We actually forgot What comedy is all about. They rip and they make fun of everything and everybody. Nothing is off limits for comedians. And I've always said the beauty of the sanctity of the comedy stage is that they will literally talk about anybody and anything at any time. And you know what their job is? Because I've interviewed too many comedians. They say, Roland, if I get the laugh, I've done my job And so I see y'all comments And so if you don't Like Chris Rock

Don't watch him You don't like Dave Chappelle Don't watch him If you don't like any comedian's style Or tone I heard Chris Rock he's angry Y'all that's actually Part of Chris's Style how he how he walks around the

stage how he looks it's different styles Bill Cosby killed by sitting in a chair for two hours and the other comedians will go damn the brilliance of doing an entire show sitting in a chair y'all that's what comedians do I just hope people again you don't you can and here's the deal you have a first amendment right to criticize anything that you want, but give comedians the same right and the same liberty to do what they do on the stage because that's who they are. You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered

on the Blackstar Network. Hatred on the streets, a horrific horrific scene a white nationalist rally that descended into deadly violence white people are losing their damn mind there's an angry pro-trump mob storm to the u.s capital we're about to see the rise of what I call white minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting. I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial. This is part of American history. Every time that people of color have made progress, whether real or symbolic, there has been what Carol Anderson at Emory University

calls white rage as a backlash. This is the wrath of the Proud Boys and the Boogaloo Boys. America, there's going to be more of this. Here's all the Proud Boys, guys. This country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people. The fear that they're taking our jobs, they're taking our resources, they're taking our women. This is white fear.

Black Star Network is here. Oh, no punch! I'm real revolutionary right now. Thank you for being the voice of Black America. All momentum we have now, we have to keep this going. The video looks phenomenal. See, there's a difference between Black Star Network and Black-owned media and something like CNN. You can't be Black-owned media and be scared.

It's time to be smart. Bring your eyeballs home. You dig? Hi, everybody. This is Jonathan Nelson. Hi, this is Cheryl Lee Ralph, and you are watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right. I got to do one thing first before I bring up my next guest.

I told y'all I pay attention to everything that goes on on this show. Did I tell y'all that? Did I tell y'all that? I want y'all to go to my iPhone, please. So while we were talking about the last subject, Anthony got in my ear and said Robin Williams. Oh, you thought I missed that, huh? You thought I missed it.

Julian did not say Robin Williams. She did. She did. She didn't say Robin Williams. She did. She did. Hey, Julian, you said Robin Williams or Robin Harris? I meant Robin Harris.

Boom. See, I know who the hell you were talking about. But Anthony was like, oh, she said Robin Williams or Robin Harris? I meant Robin Harris. Boom. See, I know who the hell you were talking about. But Anthony was like, she said Robin Williams. I'm like, Robin Williams didn't do that. That's what she did. Look, I said Bay Bay's kids, y'all. If I said Bay Bay's kids, you don't know. All right, Anthony don't know who Robin Harris is?

I know who Bay Bay's kids is. But you don't know who Robin Harris is? No. That's my damn point. That's why your ass. He doesn't know about the piccolo player. He don't know about the piccolo player. He don't know.

That's why his 33, 35. He didn't catch your ass up. He thought I missed that, y'all. Come on. Cut to the other switch. Y'all, that's right. You thought I missed it. So I said, let me come back to that.

Because, no, I ain't missed that. All right, y'all. So y'all know I had to. Y'all thinking, uh-huh, I ain't missed that. All right, y'all. So y'all know I had to, yeah, y'all thinking, uh-huh, I don't miss nothing. Gonna get my, is it a damn Robin Williams? She been Robin Harris. All right, y'all. Prince is, that's several years ago, but the reality

is he is at the center of a Supreme Court case. That's right. This thing has gone all the way to the Supreme Court. So there's an Andy Warhol silkscreen print. He was very famous for these images. So he did this here. Now, the Andy Warhol print, y'all, silkscreen print is based upon a photo that was taken on the left. The photographer took that photo for Vanity Fair magazine, was paid for it. And then when prints, but they never used it when Prince died they actually they

actually used the what's on the right the Andy Warhol silkscreen image for special edition on Prince well the photographer then sued saying that that was her work this is a copyright infringement and so therefore they should not have been allowed to use it. So this thing's been going on and on and on. And so the whole idea of copyright law, the whole idea of trademark law is quite significant and real weird in terms of trying to really understand it. And so what you're now dealing with is this thing is like, again, going to Supreme Court. And this could have huge ramifications, if you will, for, again, artists, photographers, videographers, when it comes to who owns something

and how can you alter an image. And so joining us right now is Shea Lawson. She's the IP and entertainment attorney with the law firm of Lawson McKinley in Atlanta. And I know people watching might be saying, well, this Supreme Court case don't mean nothing. But for creative people, this is a huge, huge case. We're talking about art, photos, and things along those lines.

Roland, this is it. Because they are basically arguing that because Warhol was famous, this is now transformative and he has a right to copy. So if being famous gives you a right to copy, this is a sad day for all creatives, all little people out there. And what folks don't understand here and people don't realize this here. When you sign up for a lot of these social media services, there was a Washington Post story, and I think, did we have you on talking about it last time? I can't remember, where there was a guy who was taking images from Instagram and was doing exactly what a Warhol did, sort of manipulating them,

and was selling it for $20,000 and $30,000. And he was like, oh, no, no, no. He said, I manipulated it, $20,000 and $30,000 and he was like oh no no no. He said I manipulated it so not the original piece and then people don't even realize they're turning over their actual rights to their own photos when they set up a lot of these social media folks. It's a shame and people

just don't know, probably haven't gotten their stuff copyrighted. Luckily Lynn Goldsmith, she's been in the game forever, done hundreds of album covers. So she had her stuff protected by copyright so she could even bring this lawsuit. But just because people put that little stamp on the bottom that says this is a fair use, no copyright infringement intended, does not mean that you have the right to do whatever you want to do it. No, the original person who made it

has the only right to say that you can change this, that you can modify it, that you can make a derivative work of it. See, one of the things that bothers me, and you've seen this before, where you have some entertainers who were posting an image that was shot of them, and the photographer's like,

they're trying to sue the artist, and the artist's like, I'm sorry, hold up. That's like i'm sorry hold up that's me you don't get how are you gonna profit off of me because you shot me when it's me we talked about that yeah that's what we talked about roland we talked about that with uh nod and uh jay-z and the photographer suing. And the thing is, people, to your point, IP is very tricky. The difference between trademark, copyright, rights to publicity, name, image, likeness, they are all different things.

And it would be really messy if Prince's estate got involved in this as well to say that you're profiting off of his name, image, likeness and he only sat for this one photo, but I know that's not a part of the case. But that could happen. Yeah, it could.

It absolutely could and they wouldn't be wrong for coming to get their coins. In fact, the King Estate, one of the things, remember when Bernice King was head of the Coretta Scott King estate, one of the things, remember when Bernice King was head of the Coretta Scott King estate, her brother was head of the MLK estate, and when she wanted to publish a book

with Barbara Reynolds of letters from her mama, her brother went after her and sued by saying, because daddy wrote the letters letters that's the mlk estate's letters and she's like wait but the letters were the mama so even though she was over the corretta scott king estate he asserted rights over those letters because they were written by mlk again if you are the creator you are the owner of the copyright. Now, it's messy and unfortunate that siblings suit each other, right? But yes, when you are the creator of something, you are the owner of it. And then copyright registration is what gives you the right to enforce in court when somebody

steals your stuff. But yeah, just because you have something in your possession, just because you copied and pasted it from Google, just because you downloaded it, you screenshotted it, doesn't make it yours to remake. Okay. So, um, before I go to questions, pay on each question, uh, we need to be quick. So how do, okay. So I shoot a lot of video. I shoot a lot of photos. So what does a person do? Do you have to, do you have to copyright each specific photo? What do you have to do? I mean, how do you protect yourself? There's multiple ways you can protect yourself. Sure. If they're one-offs, you can go copyright.gov and file your copyright for the individual pictures. But if you have a series

of pictures, a collection of pictures, the copyright office does allow you in one application to file for a collection of photographs and the fees are as cheap as $65. But if you don't have that registration, people always talk about a poor man's copyright and they're like, oh, well, I mailed it to myself.

Or I have the, no, no, you need to file it with the copyright office because they will kick you on out of court and tell you to go file it and come back. Question, Lauren, you're first. Yep. So I'm a contract photographer for Associated Press. Of course, I've been a little bit more aware of copyright than most people. You probably remember, Shay, the Shep Ferry case with the Obama Hope poster where, you know, the artist got busted because, of course, it was an AP photo. But I want to know what you think about, you know, elected officials were typically not their image and likeness is not really like a celebrity in terms of they are typically in, of course, public spaces where copyright is not the same.

It's usually open. Have you noticed that there's an infringement now? They're trying to basically change that. Donald Trump did with these basically agreements that staff could not take the content of what they were working on and make money off him. Are you seeing that more with elected officials? Because celebrities, I can understand, but elected officials are starting now to get a little funny about their image and likeness. Are you seeing that? But you have to see that Donald Trump still sees himself as a celebrity. He doesn't even care that he was president. Like, that's just another step on his walk to fame, his ascension to the ultimate fame he's looking for. So he's still keeping those celebrity rules in his mind.

You are absolutely correct that most of the time when you are in a celebrity setting, if you work for somebody, if you're a nanny, an assistant, you are definitely signing an NDA saying, you are not about to go take my business and go make a tell-all book about it. But if you are the president, think about President Obama's photographer. I can't think of what his name is right now. It's like on the tip of my tongue. I want to say Peter Sousa. Yeah. He just recently published a book, right? Yara, who was on Black-ish, her dad was Prince's photographer. I think that he published a coffee table book of images of friends, right? There are certain circumstances where you are granted access.

And via that relationship with that person, you can release commercial work that benefits you. But when you are a politician, when you are a public figure, you are what's considered newsworthy. And typically, no, you can't just make people sign NDAs because you're in the public eye. Right. Well, first of all, and like one of the things that Oprah did when she had photographers who were hired, when she had her show, her television show, she hired them and she owned the photographs. Her deal was I'm paying you to shoot. I own all the images. In fact, when I did this, when I did her radio show on SiriusXM, I was the guest. They gave me a copy and said I could not even air or play or do anything with the show without their permission, and I was the guest.

Yes. And so other folks try to –that ain't going to happen. Julianne, what's your question? Listen, I read the Supreme Court filing, and it just seemed to me to be very weak. As you said earlier, they kept saying because Warhol is famous, because he's done this before, because he's done it before. And it didn't seem to me to hold any water. Is this case likely to really—is the Supreme Court really going to hold any water is this case likely to really is a supreme court really going to hear it and what's likely to happen because again i'm not hearing it they're

hearing it they they heard it that we are waiting on a decision actually so they heard it um there are really great audio clips of clarence thomas actually talking about how he was a Prince fan, was a Prince fan in the 80s. He said only on Thursday nights now that he's a fan. But we're just waiting on a decision right now. And it is huge. Dr. Malveaux, the Supreme Court hasn't really talked about this since the two live crew case. I'm not sure if you remember the two live crew pretty woman case where was this transformative. And that's the argument that they're making.

They're saying well we crop prince's body out they put painting on him it was a mask it changed the messaging and goldsmith is saying listen art is subjective anyway people get multiple messages from the same picture all the time so you just can't come and say, because you're famous, I changed the meaning. It's transformative and fair use. And again, Luther Campbell won that lawsuit. And people forget, he wrote about it in his book, Michael Jackson actually filed an amicus brief against Luther Campbell and many other artists did as well because they didn't want people mocking their songs. Makongo, real quick, what's your question? My question is for us in the social media space, do we completely give up all of our rights forever for things that we post, that they can do whatever they want?

Is that still the case today? The assumption is when you post something on an Instagram or a TikTok that you are giving them a license and therefore other users a sub-license to maybe repost. Think about Instagram has a remix where they're encouraging people to remix your work. So understand where you are uploading your content is going to dictate what other people can do to it. If you do not want other people to modify your content, then it is best served on maybe a platform like a Vimeo or YouTube where you can enforce your copyrights and you can enforce the fact that you don't want others to modify. But the important step there keeps going back to file your copyright registration. All right, then.

We certainly appreciate you joining us. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Roland. Have a good night. Thank you. Got to go to a break. We certainly appreciate you joining us. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Roland. All right. Have a good night. Thank you. Got to go to a break. We come back. A sister, she survived a heart attack.

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I'm Coco. And I'm Lili. And we're SWB. What's up, y'all? It's Ryan Destiny. And you're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered. Nearly 60% of black women, folks, ages 20 to older, suffer from heart disease. The American Heart Association says cardiac arrest kills more people worldwide than all forms of cancer, pneumonia auto accidents hiv firearms and house fires combined but one out of 10 of those who experienced cardiac arrest survived joining us now is linguist uh dr lanisha adams uh from austin uh tell us about how she survived sudden cardiac

arrest first of all glad to have you here uh in more ways than one. So women, you know, women experience it different from men. So what happened with you? Yeah. So hi, so happy to be here. Thank you so much for having me. I had COVID pneumonia and I didn't know that I had COVID pneumonia. My children, I have a two and a four year old and my entire family came down with COVID. I was the sickest of everyone, and for about two weeks, just completely out of it. Like, I don't recall doing much other than waking up to go to the restroom and drinking water. After three weeks, I started feeling better, and I sat down to watch something on TV and then I woke up in the ICU. Wow. So you don't recall feeling anything? You don't recall blocking out? Nothing? Nothing.

No. And actually, um, nine out of 10 people who suffer cardiac arrest end in fatality, and the majority of them don't have symptoms. And how I was able to survive was my husband, my wonderful husband, David Foss. He performed CPR, and he's CPR certified. He's in the health profession, and he was able to take quick action to go through the process of CPR to revive me. And then the emergency responders came and had to work on me for about half an hour before I was transported to our nearest hospital. Wow. And again, you know, when you've been doing your research there again, the symptoms that we've heard really vary in terms of, so for some women, it may actually, they actually may experience it, you know, a tingling or whatever over a period of several days before something actually happens. Yes, I had no

symptoms. In fact, the day that it happened, January 29, 2022, so I'm just now over the one-year anniversary. I was in a coma for about a week. I was in the ICU for two weeks. But the day that it happened, I felt, I journal quite a bit. And I remember writing that compared to how I felt at the beginning of the year when I got COVID. That was, I felt the best that day, actually. I was very happy. My sense of taste and smell came back.

And I physically felt so good. And it turns out I had COVID pneumonia. And as a result of that, my heart was, my systems were overloaded. My heart stopped. I didn't have a heart attack, which is different than a sudden cardiac arrest. And I need to be revitalized to make it back. And we also know that, I mean, you know, one of the issues that we've heard with COVID, an increase in heart attacks, things along those lines, doctors are still, you know, assessing

the long-term implications of folks who have had COVID. And so this is something that is being talked about in many medical circles. Absolutely. And I've been tracking the data quite a bit. You know, for women over 20 years and older black women, we have a rate, 60% of us suffer from cardiovascular disease of some kind. Hypertension, you know, high blood pressure is the leading cause of it. There's a lot of question about it. Earlier today, I was watching your obesity, the special on obesity, which I think is very important for people to understand is not a medical condition. And it is a medical condition and not a behavioral issue, which historically it's been perceived as such. And I think when we're talking about our demographic of people and what we suffer from, it's very important to think not just about individual choice, but also the systemic and political factors that impact health outcomes.

I mean, this is so important. And for me, I think about it every day now. I have a heart condition that I have to manage and maintain. And long COVID for me means something quite different than just a cough or, you know, a small symptom. I mean, I have to do a lot of things to make sure I'm healthy and I'm able to still live a full life. Questions for our panel. Julianne, you first. Well, first of all, I'm so happy that you're here with us. Congratulations on your recovery. The question that I have for you is, what warnings, are there any warning signs that someone would have about cardiac arrest or it just happens? And that means you can't prepare for it, can't do anything about it. Just help me out with that. Yeah, I think my cardiologist,

he often helps me put things into perspective. And he says, you know, you want to be as heart healthy as possible, right? So being heart healthy means staying physically active, being physically fit. I have a two-year-old and a four-year-old. So the only time I've ever been in the hospital was to give birth. And so I have a hard time wrapping my mind around it, someone who's under 40 having had this happen to. But I think it's important to just stay on top of being heart healthy and monitoring your health, be preventative before things get into a situation. COVID, you know, is the mysterious factor here for a lot of us.

It affects us in a terrible way. And for some of us, you know, for black folks, we died at an alarming rate two and a half to three times higher than other groups. So we really just have to stay steadfast with monitoring our health. Lauren? So, yeah, jumping off of Dr. Malveaux's question. So you were sitting down and watching TV and then went into cardiac arrest. And did they ever determine that it was directly related to COVID can cause my condition, which is called dilated cardiomyopathy. It means I have a damaged heart and COVID has been shown to cause that. I don't have any genetic markers for it. No one in my family has heart issues. And so I had I gave birth two years ago and I wasn't screened for it.

So it is kind of a mysterious thing. And my cardiologist thinks it's a direct result of COVID. Thank you so much, Dr. Atasuya, your advocacy and raising the alarm on this. My question is for somebody who, when we talk about strokes, people talk about the signs, someone grabbing their, you know, left side and stuff. Are there signs that people should look for if somebody next to them might be experiencing it? Did their eyes start to change? Does the breath? What can we do to maybe pay attention if it's happening to someone right next to us?

If the breath changes, what I was told was and asked you know did you have shortness of breath did you start feeling faint did you feel like you were gonna keel over and the only thing i recall like i said earlier writing my journal is that i felt really great and i wanted to rest in that moment and i was just with my um twoand-a-half-year-old son. My husband went to get a pizza, and it was lights out for me. All right, then. Well, first of all, we are glad that you are here. You're absolutely right, folks.

Must be very vigilant. Many of us who do have the signs, a lot of people ignore those signs, and they just sort of just plow through. The reality is if you have that sensation or that pounding of the chest, things along those lines, seek immediate attention because you better be safe than sorry. Absolutely. Doc, thanks a lot. We appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me.

All right, folks. Got to go to break. We come back. Creed sets all sorts of records. Big ups to Michaelael b jordan i'll explain coming up next and also there's a bunch of crazy people out here boy i got some some nutcase stories for you i'll cover those next uh i was supposed to do it on friday my daddy keep texting me talking about his time for these stories i'm like i got you all right

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That's next on The Black Table, here on The Black Star Network. Hello, everyone. I'm Godfrey, and you're watching... Roland Martin Unfiltered. And while he's doing Unfiltered, I'm practicing the wobble. y'all big shout out to uh my man michael b jordan huge weekend for him and the movie creed let me tell you how big uh a weekend it was of course uh it debuted this weekend come on roll the movie Creed. Let me tell you how big a weekend it was. Of course, it debuted this weekend.

Come on, roll the video, y'all. It debuted this weekend. Y'all slow. Let's go. Move it. It debuted this weekend, y'all. And this is how huge it was. It was a $58.6 million weekend, $100 million worldwide, the biggest opening of any Creed

or Rocky movie, the biggest opening ever for a sports movie, the biggest opening of any Creed or Rocky movie, the biggest opening ever for a sports movie, the biggest opening ever for a black director in their directorial debut, the biggest opening ever for a movie produced by Amazon. So absolute shout out to Michael B. Jordan, his team at Obsidian Works, Renee Spellman, all the partners there. They did an amazing job promoting the movie. And so give it up for Michael B. Jordan and Jonathan. Again, a hell of a pairing there, folks.

And so Creed III, amazing, amazing. And so I just want to give that shout-out to the brother who's doing amazing, amazing work. All right, y'all. My daddy keeps texting me for these damn stories. I'm like, look, you hit me one more time, you're going to make me cuss. I'm going to go Chris Rock. No, I'm just kidding. Y'all, all right, let's get right to it. We got our crazy, we got a whole list of crazy stories, but check this one out. A Republican lawmaker in Florida, it's always Florida, literally has introduced a bill that would eliminate the state's Democratic Party. Yep.

Yep. His name is Blaise N. Goglia. He proposed State Bill 1248 for the ultimate cancel act requiring the state's division of elections to cancel the filings of any political party whose platform had previously advocated for or been in support of slavery or involuntary servitude. The bill would allow any canceled political parties to re-register with the Florida State Department, but only under the condition that the party changes its name. He said the new bill is designed to get back at Democrats and leftist activists trying to cancel people and companies for things they have said or done in the past.

Lauren, anybody want to remind this fool which party today supports Confederate monuments? Well, you see, this is the extension of the Republican Party's strategy basically to win elections by doing something other than convincing people to vote for them. So in Florida, they've actually been doing well,

the Republican Party, lately, but they're so afraid of losing by having actual vote counts and actual polling places where we count the votes and do democracy that they just come up with crazy stuff like this. And that's what they do. Okay, here's crazy. A former Atlanta, yes, Atlanta fire chief has suggested that slavery was a part of God's plan for America. This speech took place at a Georgia Department of Labor event. Yep. Kelvin Cochran, who caused controversy for his perceived homophobia, was invited to speak at a Black History Month celebration hosted by the Georgia Department of Labor.

This dumbass took the opportunity to explain how America was a part of God's divine plan. Listen to this. Always has a reason for the things that he allows. Listen to this. Brace yourselves, my black brothers and sisters. Slavery in America did not catch God by surprise. In his sovereignty, God allowed Africans to be brought to America as slaves. Africa was on the eve of social, spiritual, and economic catastrophe and famine.

Still going on today. So he brought six million Africans to America through the Middle Passage as slaves. Just as it was God's divine plan to enslave the nation of Israel, it was his sovereignty that allowed Africans to be brought to America in bondage. Can I? You know, I might have to call this segment this motherfucker. Cochran was fired as fire chief in 2015 after concerns were raised over the book, Who Told You That You Were Naked?

He gave to his subordinates. He later won a $1.2 million wrongful termination settlement against the city and former mayor Kasim Reed. I'm a con. I don't know what the hell that fool talking about. This is the stuff that people should be outraged about talking about all of this stuff relating to comedians that this man would man that this man would get up there and preach this ignorance and this nonsense and people in the crowd reacting to it. This is the stuff that's dangerous, Roland, because we have people like this every day in all walks of life, in our schools, in our churches, in our communities, spouting this ignorance and just factually wrong on everything. Everything from Africa as a continent

was dealing with major instability at that time up to the idea about that God allowed it. And we're talking about everything going on in Ron DeSantis and banned books and so on and so forth. And here you come with this man basically giving credence to everything that these white folks who are out there trying to destroy our history and remove our culture, he's justifying it by basically saying we were savages before we got here, and thank God that they got us out of that dark continent. And this type of conscientious stupidity

is rampant, and I'm glad you showed this because it should remind folks that it's not just the DeSantis' of the world who are trying to actively disrespect and disregard our history. And for what, Roland? People in the audience should have shut that down,

but I'm glad we're here to do it now. Yeah, I would have cut his ass out right there. I'm just letting everybody know. All right, y'all, a Tennessee lawmaker is apologizing for suggesting hanging by a tree to execute death row inmates. Yeah, watch this. Thank you, Representative Powers, for bringing this. I think it's a very good idea.

And I was just wondering about, could I put an amendment on that? It would include hanging by a tree also. And also, I would like to sign on to your bill, sir. Paul Sherell made the comments during a House Criminal Justice Committee meeting Tuesday. Now, remember, they are talking about creating long firing squads to take place. He has apologized, so he released this statement here. Y'all flash it. I ain't reading that bullshit. Julianne.

I just have to exhale. 5,000, about 5,000 black folks and maybe more were hung by trees. This spit is repugnant and he's a legislator. Somebody needs to start a recall election on his hind parts.

I mean, I'm trying very hard not to curse, Roe. Trying very hard not to curse because that's some ignorance. In fact, Tennessee had the eighth highest recorded number of lynchings of innocent black people between 1882 and 1968.

Tennessee was the home of Ida B. Wells when they ran her out of there simply because she chose to tell the truth. Fire bombed her newspaper. The reason there is not today a actual copy for a newspaper, they blew up the building. And so this man, I mean, he, he, he, I guess he's in the land of cotton and he's happy to be there, but this is why, this is why we must have black history. It's why we must have ethnic studies. It's why we must teach our young people the truth. And if it's not being taught in the public schools, we must advocate for it

to be taught in the public schools. But we must also teach our young people at home, in our churches, wherever we can. The sororities and fraternities need to be teaching our young people. There's so many folks that need to do this because it is absurd. It is literally absurd and it's repugnant. My mom, when my mom passed in 21, I inherited 10,000 books. One of my sisters got her music. But anyway, I got the books, 10,000 books. That's the environment I grew up in.

So I didn't need anybody to tell me about racism. I had read about it as soon as I could read. But a lot of our young people are growing up in homes without books. Yep. And not understanding that full history. Now let me show y'all this here. If y'all want to see racism,

how about this here? Brothers are actually scraping snow. This racist-ass white woman didn't want, she kicked the snow back on the sidewalk. Are you seriously mad because we cleaned off your sidewalk? So you mad because we cleaned off your sidewalk? Don't trespass that line.

I don't need this. I could do this could We're helping you You mad because we cleaned off your sidewalk We cleaned off your sidewalk It's a public sidewalk We cleaned it off for you Hey, are you that upset? What would Jesus do?

If you're a real Christian, you have to be. Call the police. Yes, I will. So what are you calling the police for? That's for us to pass the property. Put him on speaker. This is the sidewalk. This is a public sidewalk.

Put him on speaker. This is a public sidewalk, ma'am. I don't know if you own his home. Let me be real clear. I am not going to reason that long with a racist-ass white woman. Ain't going to happen. Lauren, she want her damn snow. I'm like, all right, script that shit yourself.

This is what I'm doing. Apparently, she had been harassing them and threatening them for 15 years. That's a long time living next door to a bigot. Yeah, how about that? I just think some of these windows into American life, though interesting,

are not, you know, thank God, not representative of most people. I mean, they're crazy people out there. There's crazy people out there, and they're easy to get on video. And, you know, thank God, not representative of most people. I mean, it's just, they're crazy people out there. There's crazy people out there and they're easy to get on video. And, you know, I mean, it's, it's crazy. It's petty. Uh, I would have just like gone on to the next thing and really not cared, but it is a, some of these things are very interesting and scary look into human nature and, uh, racism in America. I told y'all when I was in the Chicago airport, and I want to sit down in that shoeshine

and stay in the homeboy act of the fool and cuss me out. And I was like, I'm sorry, who you talking to? I was like, I'll wait, but I'll go get the airport police. Then he changed his tone. And I literally told him, I said, man, you lucky I got grace today. I said, because I could have pulled my phone out,

went live, and would have lit your ass up. See, again, I ain't giving no grace to any of these bigots. And so my whole deal is, right, let the snow pile up. You know what I would do? I would literally see them get some tape and mark it off and just have a big old, just a block of ice on her damn sidewalk. And I'm serious. If she was walking and she fell, I'd be like, she fell down. She can't get up.

All right, y'all. I got to go. Over cargo, Lauren, Julianne, I certainly appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. We got to get out of here. Anthony got to take his ass home and go learn some black history because the boy is confused. I don't understand what's going on.

I've already decided. I'm going to start doing 100 questionnaire, 100 questions on black stuff anybody who go out to get come to this show going to least make a 80 out of 100. Because my God. The boy didn't know who Jeffrey Osborne was he'll not to lock. Julian he we said I say say, Lord, Lord, Lord. He didn't know what the hell movie that was.

He had no idea about Glory. Let me just have 25 hours with him. I'll get him straight. No, no. I got to go. I'm going to see y'all tomorrow. Oh! Oh, hold up.

My nieces, my twin nieces, today's their birthday. Happy birthday. I'm out. OK. Folks, Black I'm out. Okay. Folks, Black Star Network is here. Hold no punches. I'm real revolutionary right now. Black power.

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