#RolandMartinUnfiltered - Bomb Threat at TX Dem Hotel, Amb. Young on Voting Rights, Brain Eating Amoeba Death, July Jobs Slump

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

8.6.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Bomb Threat at TX Dem Hotel, Amb. Young on Voting Rights, Brain Eating Amoeba Death, July Jobs Slump Texas Democrats fighting back against GOP redistricting plans just got hit with a bomb threat at their hotel in Illinois. We've got Representatives Bowers and Reynolds joining us to break it all down and trust, they're not backing down. Also 60 years since the Voting Rights Act was signed into law. Civil rights icon Ambassador Andrew Young is here to reflect on the legacy of that moment and what's still at stake today. A tragic story out of South Carolina, a young boy dies after swimming in a lake, exposed to a rare brain-eating amoeba. His family joins us with a powerful message every parent needs to hear. The July jobs report just dropped and it's not pretty. Hiring is cooling off, and that could hit Black workers the hardest. Morgan Harper is here to explain what's really going on and how to stay ahead of the curve. #BlackStarNetwork partner: Fanbasehttps://www.startengine.com/offering/fanbase This Reg A+ offering is made available through StartEngine Primary, LLC, member FINRA/SIPC.  This investment is speculative, illiquid, and involves a high degree of risk, including the possible loss of your entire investment. You should read the Offering Circular (https://bit.ly/3VDPKjs (https://bit.ly/3ZQzHl0) related to this offering before investing. Download the Black Star Network app at http://www.blackstarnetwork.com! We're on iOS, AppleTV, Android, AndroidTV, Roku, FireTV, XBox and SamsungTV. The #BlackStarNetwork is a news reporting platform covered under Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Folks, Folks, today is the 60th anniversary of the Voting Rights Act. Black people went through hell in order to make that a reality. And what is the result? Significant black voter turnout across the country. We have seen black elected officials elected, mayor, city council, state rep, state senate, governor, members of Congress, United States Senate, and even a president.

We continue to see the battles of the 50s and 60s during Jim Crowe play out president as right now Republicans are locked into a racist gerrymander in Texas. That's one of the reasons why 51 Texans have fled the state in order to keep the Texas House from having a quorum to being able to pass these racist gerrym. Mandarin Maps. Join us right now is Ron Reynolds. State Representative out of Houston, he is the chair of the Texas Legislative Black Caucus. Also joining us on the show is one of his colleagues who was remaining steadfast in this fight, as many of them are, because this is, again, a very, very difficult situation being away from their families. In 1920, a magazine article announced

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And so you have these members who literally are in Chicago, you know, continuing the battle as well, Representative Bows, we're glad to have all of y'all here. Thanks a lot. I want to start with you. Listen, this thing is real. In a moment, I'm going to talk to the Ambassador Andrew Young.

They put their lives. They face death every day. And look, today, you're going to deal with the reality of a death threat being called, excuse me, a bomb threat being called into the hotel where you're staying there in Chicago. And so this is a battle that is that you're going to have to be in this for months. What are you saying to your caucus? What are other Democrats saying to keep their spirits up? because we're talking about what potentially could be a four, five, or even six-month process to keep Republicans from approving these racist gerrymandered maps.

Roland, it's great to be on with you, Frat, and it's so good to see you wearing the old black and old gold because on this 60th anniversary of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, it was our frat brother, Dr. Martin Luther King, and as you said, Ambassador Andrew Young, two great alpha men who were young soldiers on the battlefield with other freedom fighters that made good trouble so that they could push to end Jim Crow. And here we are in 2025, you know, Reda and I and our colleagues are battling this racist gerrymander map that would disenfranchise black and brown communities, particularly, but African-Americans will be hit fiercely hard in Houston and Dallas. And so we're here to stop this Trump, Abbott, Texas takeover to push back, to make good

trouble, to do everything we can to stop this. And we are here as long as it takes in order to stop it, Roland. We know that those who came before us, they made tremendous sacrifices. They risked it all. They were willing to put their lives on the lines, through freedom rise, through lush sit-ins. They were willing to march, knowing that they could be beaten, they could be killed, and many of them did pay the ultimate sacrifice. So here we are standing on the right side of history, pushing back against these mega-racist

extremists that are trying to take our country in the wrong direction to hold on to the short, small Republican majority that's in the House of Representatives. We will not let them do this on our watch, Roland. So thank you for having us on. Let's continue to ring the alarm bell so people

will wake up and they will take action and stand and fight. State Rep. Andrew Bowers, again, this seems like we are back in Jim Crow Day. having to fight tooth and nail to protect basic rights, which you have here are Republicans

who want to eradicate, completely get rid of these five districts, these five seats in order to achieve power, and they want to do it at the expense of black people, largely black people, but also Latinos. Yes, Roland, thank you so much for having us, as Ron said. It's good to be on here with you all tonight, but at certain. what they're trying to reduce us to. And this is a reduction of political power, especially, as you said, in the black community. Y'all know that I represent out of Dallas now, but I am homegrown in Third Ward in H-town and grew up in the 18th congressional district. So it is a real

racist. I don't want to call it a power grab, so I'm going to call it a power grab. So I'm going to call what it is. It's racism. And it is literally reducing us to a place where now it takes four votes, four votes for black people to be equivalent to one white vote, an Anglo vote. So they are reducing us down to one fifth. And it just reminds me of the I am a man and I am a a woman, but it reminds me of that poem, I am a man. And I was just in the African American Museum in the nation's capital this year. And we know that it's a real rollback. The president is trying his best to take us all the way back and take every right that we've had away from us. So we're here, as you said, Roland, fighting. And I'm going to say, we're ready to fight like

We've been here, and with the threats today, today's probably the first day in this quorum break that I felt a little bit uneasy. I can't even say a little bit, but we know that it happened, and we know that we're safe and it's not going to deter us. This is, and Representative Reynolds, again, explain to the audience, we've been saying it from day one. Why? Why we have to use the specific language by saying this is racist gerrymandering? Well, Roland, we have to use that specific language because the U.S. Supreme Court has says that partisan gerrymandering is acceptable. That is okay if Republicans say, well, we just did it because we wanted to get more Republican seats. Well, the Supreme Court has said, that's okay. But what you cannot do legally per the voting rights.

Act of 1965, Section 2, that is still in place because the rest of it was gutted, or else Texas couldn't have done this in the first place, but that's another story. But it says that they could not do it on the basis of race. Well, this is strictly on the basis of race. They are eviscerating black districts specifically. And for those who don't know—I know, Roland, you have so great audience because you're always educating them. But for those new listeners, Texas has more African-American.

Americans than any other state. If anything, we should be expanding African American representation, not reducing it. We're reducing it by 50%. So instead of having four African American seats, we're going to now have two based on these maps. And so this is a direct racial affront, an attack on our black and brown communities, reminiscent, like you said, Roland, of the 1960s. And I want to remind people that if it wasn't for those freedom, fighters, we would still be in those dark days. And President Trump, he is trying to take us back. He wants to roll back the clock. He's done it with rolling back anti-through attacks on diversity, equity, and inclusion. They want to take out the history books so you can't teach through critical race theory, so you can't teach about slavery. Like, they want to erase it from our existence. They want to erase us from having a seat at the table. So that is why we have to fight. We have to call out these racism when we see it. And we have to speak to. truth to power, and we have to be willing to fight because our freedom and liberty is at

stake, and they literally want to do everything they can to put us back as second-class citizens. And I'm not going to have it on our watch. And Roland, I want to thank you for always being willing to use your media platform when other mainstream media doesn't want to call it racist. They want to sugarcoat it and say, oh, it's just partisan politics. No, this is racism. This is racial gerrymandering. and that is what we are here to speak out against.

Representative Bowers was interesting and the Republicans saying, oh, no, we're creating, you know what, Republican districts for Hispanic. So they're now trying to pit black against Latino in Texas. Absolutely. And they know that Texas, right now, what we're 13% of the population is black,

They know that the Latino population continues to grow, and they would love to pit us against each other. We saw some terrible things happen in that last presidential election where I hate to say it, Roland, and Ron, you know this as well, but black and brown men were voting against their better interests, against their best interest when it came to who their candidate of of choice should have been. And so they would love to pit us against each other. They know that the minorities, they know they're outnumbered. And I guess, you know, what I really want to say is they knew that they were, they would not win in 2026, so they decided they needed to steal something in 2025. That's where we are right now.

And the best way for them to do it is to change the game, change the maps. and certainly to pit black and brown people against each other. All right, then, Representative Bowers, Representative Brown and Reynolds, I appreciate both of you being with us. We appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thanks, Brad. Thank you. Folks, going to go to a break.

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What happened in Selma is part of a far larger movement which reaches into every section and state of America. It is the effort of American Negroes to secure for themselves the full blessings of American life. Their cause must be our cause too. Because it's not just Negroes, but really it's all of us who must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry and injustice. And we shall overcome. Betts? All right, folks, President Lyndon Manes Johnson, again with the voter who was at SP.

Joining us right now is someone who put his life on the line in order to get that pass, playing an integral role in getting that sign into law. Of course, former lieutenant of Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., he also, member of Congress, Mayor of Atlanta, Ambassador to the United Nations, my other brother, Andrew Young. Ambassador Young, how are you doing? I'm doing Fad of Midland, as old folks, I'm getting lucky.

Well, I was talking to some... Say it again? I said, I got no complaints. It's just, it was nice and cool here yesterday, but it's back to 100 degrees almost today in Atlanta. So it's a hot time in the whole overnight. So you're saying the temperatures, the temperature is higher than your age, huh? You're 93 years old.

You've seen a lot over these years, and you were right there in the middle of this battle to get the Voting Rights Act, Civil Rights Act Fairhousy. In 1920, a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed real fairies. But even more extraordinary than the magazine article's claim was the identity of the man who wrote the article, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the man who wrote Sherlock Holmes. Yes, the man who invented literature's most brilliant detective

was fooled by two girls into thinking fairies were real. How did they do it? And why does it seem like so many smart people? people keep falling for outlandish tricks. These are the questions we explore in Hoax, a new podcast from me, Dana Schwartz, the host of Noble Blood. And me, Lizzie Logan. Every episode will explore one of the most audacious and ambitious tricks in history, from the fake Shakespeare's to balloon boys, and try to answer the question of why we believe what we believe. Listen to Hoax on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. At May Law, what stands out the most for you reflecting 60 years later after the president signed this historic bill? Well, it's the way that the movement was really a spirit-led movement that we came back from the Martin received the Nobel Prize in Norway, and we came back and stopped by to meet President Johnson, and all he could say was he agreed with everything we wanted and we needed, but he closed every sentence with, I'm sorry, just don't have the power.

And when we left there, he was suggesting that we just kind of take it easy, and maybe Dr. King, after having been through the Nobel Prize and been bombed and stabbed and everything else, said, maybe he might take a—take a few months off. And actually, that's sort of what I was thinking, but as we left the White House, Dr. King said, no, we're going to have to get the president some power. And, you know, he was even shorter than me. And I said, you're more house man or something else. You ain't got a pot to piss in.

We broke. You know, because the Nobel Peace Prize was $60,000. But Martin decided we should divide it up against. with all six of the civil rights organizations, so we only got $10 apiece. And that was hardly enough to keep SCLC going for a month. But he understood that social change in America is a religious process as well as a political process. And what I didn't count on in which he didn't know, but he was sort of counting on it, was that Mrs. Amelia Boynton from Selma.

Now, he knew Selma, and I knew Selma, because our wives came from Marion, Alabama, which is 30 miles away from Selma. So my wife and I had our first date in Selma, and everybody knew Mrs. Boynton. So when she came over to visit with us, she just told all of the hell that went in black folk buildings and Selma.

and Martin said, well, we'll put them with you right after the Houston. And then normally is the NACP celebrates emancipation proclamation on the first of the year. And we said, well, we'll come over and we'll use that as an opportunity to break the injunction and start a movement in Selma. And three months later, in March, we had that Bloody Sunday, which we were going to march to March to, from Selma to Montgomery, because that's where Governor Wallace was. And we got the dates wrong, because we said the – I mean, it was really confusing, but the first Sunday was when the

preachers had to be in the jobist. And that was the seventh of of March. And so none of the preachers were there, but there were about 300 people

that had come from all the counties around. And they brought there their knapsacks with their water and their snacks and food and there were 300 people that were ready to march and

Dr. King said can't you all hold them up till we get there and we said no because well it was a time difference between Selma and Atlanta and they couldn't get there before evening

and we wanted to get to march through. So he said, well, go ahead and march. They're probably just going to turn you around anyway. And so that's what we decided to do. We didn't want everybody to go to jail because we thought everybody, and so John Lewis, Jose Williams, James Bevel, and I all played odd man, you know, flip the coin. And it turned out to be John Lewis, and Jose Williams that led the line and we thought they were

going to just turn them around and let it go, but they were waiting on horseback and they rode the horses into the crowd of non-violent movement who weren't even budging. They made no move.

They were standing still and a policeman and state troopers drove the horses right at them and were beating everybody down with billy clubs. And that was a bloody Sunday. And it was bloody. But we recovered and were ready. There was a young white man killed. After the march was over, he was in a black neighborhood, James Reeve. Yeah, James Reed, yeah.

Yeah, R-E-B. And he was an Episcopal priest, I think. And people jumped him coming out of a restaurant. And they beat him by himself. and we got him to a hospital but it was too late because there were no hospitals around there that were open. He had to drive almost all the way

to Birmingham, which was 90 miles. Let me ask this question. And when it passes, we see massive black turnout. Bull Connor gone. Jim Clark, gone.

All these folks gone. And and we see what happened and now we're seeing the attacks now we're seeing the legal battles now we saw of course the Shelby beholder decision we see right now

section two of the Voting Rights Act hanging by thread Clarence Thomas has made it clear that his mission in life is to get rid of the Voting Rights Act when you see these attacks and how the right wants to completely

eradicated, that has to make you angry because we know, and we've already seen the results, if the Voting Rights Act is invalidated, I mean, they are going to wipe out half of a congressional black caucus. Well, they'll have to fight to do it. And I'm impressed with the way Texas and California and New York, are taking up this redistricting. When I first ran for Congress, they redistricted me out of Atlanta. I live in the southwest Atlanta, but they took my house and my neighborhood and put it all

the way down in Noon, Georgia, which is 40 miles away. And of course, I lost that time. We went back to the courts in the Fifth Circuit down here in Atlanta. We got the lines redrawn, and we had some really good people in the Georgia legislature who were black legislators, and they got into the process. And, you know, it's not just a few. of us. This is a nationwide struggle. This is a struggle of a people. And we've used the amount to come up with a miracle. And we certainly saw Lyndon Johnson, because we weren't sure about

him. He had a really tough southern accent from Texas, and we were all having hopes in Kennedy. But when Kennedy was struck down, Lyndon Johnson stepped in and did more and everything that we thought we could get John Kennedy to do. And we're grateful to what Lyndon Johnson did because he was operating for the nation. But then we've had setbacks all over the nation. North and south but we haven't stopped yet and I don't know

I quote Dr. King truth for ever on the scaffold wrong for ever on the future on the throne but the scaffold sways the future because behind the dim unknown standeth God within the shadows keeping watch above his own

And we rely on those maxims and principles to say, we're going to stay in this struggle till our last breath. And, I mean, I've been out in England, registering voters all over Georgia already. and we're just getting geared up trying to keep our two Senate seats and the Congress that we can add anybody from Georgia. Now, that seems to be difficult. Ambassador, you never know. Right. To that point, Bishop William Barber sent something to me a week ago,

that, you know, when you read this, it sort of is extremely sad, if you will. He said that in the last election in November, some 600 plus thousand African Americans in North Carolina did not vote. He said, according to data, some one million black Georgians did not vote. Yeah. What do you say, what do you say to an African American who sits in? elections out. And what must we say to them to get them to recognize that their vote absolutely does matter? Well, they can see it in Atlanta. We've had nine black mayors in a row.

I was the second one. Amanda Jackson was first. But we've had nine in a row, and the city is growing. The schools, we have a Hope Scholarship where anybody that makes a B average on the SAT, I mean, B average, and 1,000, or 1,200 on SAT can go to any Georgia college free. We have, 60% of the Atlanta population of our workforce has had some college training, and 23% of that has master's degrees. And we did that through a segregated school system and just kept on keeping on. And so the more we make it, the more we make and the more we do, the easier it seems to get,

and the more people begin to think that it's automatic. But none of my generation, and then not many of us left, none of us know that we can't take it for granted. When I ran for Congress, it poured down rain all day and all night on election day, and it didn't stop raining until 9 o'clock at night after the polls closed. But we had a 75% of the black voters in Atlanta turned out. And that was the biggest turnout we'd ever had. And that's how I got into Congress. And my staff stayed together and didn't come to Washington with me. They stayed here and elected Maynor Jackson mayor in the next year.

And then they came to Washington. And so there's nothing without a struggle. And we struggle too hard, and we ought to be free by now. Well, one of the things that is a struggle, but one of the things that I was on a panel Saturday in Chicago, Janay Nelson of the NWACP, a legal defense fund was on there as well. And she said a lot of people in this generation said,

first time that we've had to face this level of attacks on our rights. But, Ambassador, I remember something when we were engaged in, I'm here at the National Association of Black Journal's Convention, we're in Cleveland. I remember when I was last on the board and we were aggressively going after CNN for no black executives direct reporting to Jeff Zucker. And I remember calling Bernard Shaw, and Bernard Shaw said, Roland, every generation has their moment, he said, it's now, it's your turn. And I think that's really the message. We have to understand that, hey, you talked about we should be free by now, but the reality is we're not, which means that this generation, Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, Gen Alpha, we got to be in this

fight because at the end of the day, the battle today is for really a future of tomorrow. That's exactly true. but you have to fight for it today to be around tomorrow because they're trying to take away the right to even be liberated already and they don't make any they're not ashamed it seemed they want to reestablish

slavery almost well I wrote my book Go ahead. No, I said we're working together pretty well here in Atlanta. But again, we're surrounded by, but we're surrounded by the same people who've been here before. Now, we got together with most of the, I mean, I never got elected with just black votes

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The struggle continues, though. Nobody told us that the way would be used. You made a point, you made a point moments ago where you said, go ahead, you said, go ahead, go finish that thought? Yeah, I said Nobody told us that the way would be easy But I don't believe he brought us this far

To leave us You know, I don't feel no way it's tired We've come too far from where we started from And you made a point moments ago where you said It seems like they won't take us back to slavery What I said for months now Is that this effort

They want to, what I call, they want to Defund Black America They want to completely destroy the infrastructure, the civil rights, the economic rights, the social justice, the political infrastructure that folks like you and so many other unsung heroes fought for it. That's what they're trying to do right now. Well, and they're wrong, and they won't be able to do it. Because this economy is a strong economy in spite of the people that are trying to, resegregated or pick on folk or cut people out or take advantage of people every time they can get. But it's, I mean, it's like, how could you play in the NFL? How could the NFL

have a football team without black folks? You know, I went to down in Mobile, where there were, Mobile has put up statutes of Hank Aaron and Satchel Paige and three or four others. There are five black Mobilians that are in the Baseball Hall of Fame. And they embraced that and they realize that that's an important part of keeping Mobile, Alabama, the city that it can be. And I don't know. I still go back to I don't feel no ways tired. I'm 93 years old, and I was tired when I came home today because this up and down weather with the heat and cold kind of got to me a little ways.

But, you know, I'm here. And I don't feel tired. Well, what I always say, Ambassador Young, as long as if you got breath in your body and you can still move, there's still some work you to do on our path to freedom. Well, I kind of feel that way. You know, in St. Augustine, Florida, which is where we had the last March before they, passed the 64 Civil Rights Act. There are two young women who brought us down there, and one of them's, they're all past 100 now,

and they still drive. We have a number of people, the old civil rights fighters are all, you know, retirement age, but nobody's stopping. And we keep on, keeping on. opening doors for the younger generation and doing everything we can to help prepare the way for a brighter tomorrow. Absolutely. Ambassador Andrew Young is always a pleasure to chat with you, my dear brother. Stay well. Keep swinging. I'm right there with you. Giving folks hail and speaking.

truth and what we need in order to be on that path to be free one day. All right. God bless you. And keep on keeping on. I appreciate it. All right. Yes, sir. We'll do.

Well, thank you, sir. Tell the wife, hello. Folks, that is Ambassador Andrew Young. Let me bring in right now my panelists, glad to have them here. They've been holding for some time. we had to get with our various guests right there. And let's go right to them. Pull the panelists up, please.

Pull them up, pull them up. All right, then, of course. Talek Malmila, glad to have you here on the show. One of our young panelists, young brother, who is doing some good work, glad to have him here. Like I say, folks, we've been, it has been quite the busy day as we here in Cleveland. We see all of the, again, the craziness going on.

Let me also thank Andrew Clark, who joins us as well, managing partner. He is, of course, with the district legal group. Glad they have you both. Tyler, I want to start with you. I mean, to sit there and listen to 93-year-old Andrew Young, still in the fight, trust me, people talk about my travel. schedule. I swear that man Treve was more than I do

in not giving up and I think what jumps out there was not losing faith in our ability to fight for freedom. Yeah, absolutely. It's always a joy to be

on rolling, but definitely hear from Ambassador Young, I have had an opportunity to sit and talk with him many times and his wisdom and insight. I think it echoes generations. And I think today, as we say, we are 60 years removed from the passage of the Voting Rights Act, and yet we are still fighting for these protections. We can't claim to be, you know, the global standard of democracy and these standards of barriers, but yet voter

suppression runs rampant right here in our home. I think it's very hypocritical for us as a nation to send diplomats to defend democracy overseas while we are closing polling places, voter rolls and ignoring the erosion of civil rights here in our own country. And I think if democracy abroad is worth fighting for, it must be worth fighting for in Alabama, in Georgia, in Texas, and for the over 400,000 Washingtonians here in D.C. And I think that's what real patriotism means. And I think if we can't defend the basic freedom of protecting the right to vote, what can we protect?

All the other issues are on. the line. And it's very important that we stand up and ensure that our rights are being protecting. Andrew, what it also says to anybody who was listening to Ambassador Young, you ain't got no damn excuse sitting your ass on the sidelines. What's happening in Texas, that is not just about right now. That is literally about the next generation of African-American. It's the voting rights battle right now. And so when I listen to people talk about, oh, I'm tired, I'm tired.

No, no, no, no. Listen, go take a nap, go get some rest. But this is not a moment for us to be checking out of a process. Yeah, and it really goes back to the beginning of this administration and the types of tactics that we saw them use in trying to rig elections. We saw them trying to rig judicial elections. and influence those elections. Now they're trying to gerrymander out there in Texas.

And kudos to all of the representatives in Texas who banded together and who are now safely in the great city of Chicago. Really, you know, it's something that especially 60 years ago and the types of things that 60 years ago we saw people have to go through, not me, but at least the previous generation, and we've seen people have to go through.

Now we're seeing similar things, and them talking about FBI warrants and arresting them and they're taking them back and they're staying put. And I urge all of those representatives that we all support you throughout the country so to stay strong and to keep doing what you're doing

because it's important, not just for Texas, but for the rest of the country, because if they're allowed to do this in a state like Texas, then all of these red states are going to follow suit. So kudos to them for doing this. Absolutely. And so, hey, there's a lot of work to do, and people need to understand that.

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amoeba found in warm, fresh water. It enters through the nose and attacks the brain. His family had never even heard of it, and they said they had no idea the lake posed any danger. There were no signs, no warning, and no water testing. Now, Jason's parents are speaking out, determined to raise awareness to know the family have to go through what they are dealing with. Joining us now is Tyler Bailey, attorney for the Carr family and the civil rights advocate, as well as Jason's parents, Clarence and Ebony Carr.

Clance and Ebony's, certainly, our condolences. This is, I mean, look, we see this all the time. We see folks, they go swimming in lakes, they white water rafting or tubing things along those lines. And what were you told? What were you told that this body of water, does it have a history of this? Also, where you swam, was that, like, was that city property, county property, private property, state property?

Just give us the details of what happened here. Well, it wasn't a specific private property. It was Lake Murray. That's a popular tourist attraction here in this city. It's always busy. It's always crowded. it. And again, the only thing he did was go swimming, hang out with his friends. They went fishing, boating, tubing. And after he came home a couple of days later, he complained about a headache. And we took him to the emergency room and the doctors checked him out, drew samples. There was nothing showing up. gave him a shot, went home.

Day or two later, he complained about a headache again, only this time it was accompanied with vomiting. We took him back to the ER. They began antibiotics, and later on through the night, he started to spike a fever. They did some spinal tap testing, and the following day, it came back showing that he was infected with the amoeba. Yeah, and roll in that, and Go ahead, go ahead.

Yeah, and Jason was just a star of a kid, one-of-a-kind. Three-sport athlete, sang in the choir, played in the band, and had that whole future ahead of him, and unfortunately, lost his life, as Clarence just said, tragically to his brain-eating amoeba. And Lake Murray is owned by Dominion Energy, but it's a big, big, it's a huge lake. It covers five or so different counties, and unfortunately, with global warming and water temperatures, amoeba can turn deadly if waters are consistently over 80 degrees. And so what Clarence and Ebony have been doing is fighting for the legacy of their sun and

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of residents spend their time during summer as opposed to tourists who visit the beaches of South Carolina. And that's what the cars have been fighting for, raising awareness, and I'm sure Ebony would love to talk more about who Jason was and Clarence would as well. But so far since he's passed, they had been nonstop and raising awareness. And unfortunately, the state did nothing. There was no investigation from any state or county regulatory body of where Jason was, where he was affected. So we've been doing the work that the state should have done and the county should have done.

If the cars didn't speak out about this, nobody would have known where Jason was, what he was infected with, how he lost his life, and who he was. So we've been beating the pavement trying to get the word out. We appreciate you allowing this platform for that word to be further spread. Yes, thank you. Were there other families out there? I mean, you said this is a very popular area. So were there a lot of other people who were out there that day? Yes, sir.

The lake was very busy. You have people jet skiing, other people that were tubing, pulling on speed boats, pontoon boats, swimming. The lake was busy. It was a beautiful day. Everybody was on the water. It was Fourth of July week. So there were a lot of people on the lake this week.

This is obviously an extremely tragic, tragic story. Since this incident, have signs been put up, have warnings been put out, put up at this lake? Not to our knowledge, sir, not even one phone call from any state agency offering condolences, not one phone call. Yeah, and, and since the cars have spoken out on this, there has been some comments from legislators saying that they're interested in looking at legislation to possibly change it. But as a right now, there have been no warnings placed out there. They're saying that this is a rare situation, but just to use your own pretty much judgment. But there hasn't been anything out there that said things like when these wars are over 80 degrees consistently, that the immediate can be deadly, that these are found in fresh bodies of water. There has been nothing to put the public really on notice outside of the car speaking on it and pushing for change.

And we're optimistic that some change will come. But as of right now, we're coming towards the tail end of the summer, and hopefully by next summer and when people get back in the water, there will be some changes. But as the right now, there have been done. As Clarence said, nobody has reached out from South Carolina Department of Environmental Services, any other regulatory body who has authority over the lake, including Dominion Energy. Well, we certainly hope we hate the fact that your son, had to die but we certainly hope some changes are made to warn families, parents, children, and other about these dangerous swimming in these freshwater lakes and ponds. Thank all of you for being on today's show.

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July Giles report, Donald Trump lost his mind. It showed significant revisions. This economy is tanking. His tears are causing massive problems. In fact, just today, Tyson Foods, announced they're laying off 5,000 workers in Pennsylvania and Kansas as a result of these tariffs. We're seeing this happen more and more.

We're seeing companies announce they're going to be raising prices. And so that's what we are facing. Now, again, Trump doesn't want to hear that. He's trying to suggest that, oh, his tariffs are fine. They're wonderful and how they're just bringing in all this money. but the reality is it is causing prices to go up. When you look at his polling data, he is horrible on the numbers. Now, when we start talking about unemployment numbers,

it rose, black unemployment rose from 6.0 to 6.8%. It's at 7% for black men, for spiking from 5.2, 7.7, black women dropped to 6.78. All of these things are happening. Morgan Harper is the Director of Policy and Advocacy of the American Economic Liberties Project, and she joins us right now. Morgan is always glad to have you on the show.

And look, here's what I think happened here, Morgan. We saw Trump comes in, inaugurated January 2nd. So immediate tears. Company's like, okay, all right, we're going to bite the bullet. Okay, so we're going to suck it up. So February, March, April, May, all of a sudden, they like, we can't keep eating this. Now you begin to see companies, Proctrine Gambles and

others announce, yeah, we're going to start increasing our prices because the tariffs are real. Senator Rand Paul, Republican, he keeps saying it's a tax, it's a tax. And so it is tanking the economy, pure and simple. Yeah, I mean,

the main point with the tariffs or the way that Trump has approached the tariffs is that they are not being done in any sort of strategic way. It's completely unpredictable. He's changing his mind, months to months, sometimes week to week, sometimes day to day. And so it's impossible for companies, even companies that say wanted to do, want to do the right thing and actually making a plan for themselves and a business plan, economic plan, just taking in all the data

and trying to do bot right by their employees and run a good company, it would be challenging to do that. But I do think we also need to be real about the fact that a lot of companies are using this uncertainty as cover to do things that they might have also wanted to do anyway. they wanted to be able to shed some of the employees. Their main responsibility is to make sure that their stock prices keep going up as long as they still are making their profits, then they're going to do that. But there's no denying that the way that Trump has approached tariffs by, again, doing it in an unpredictable way and also not pairing it with any sort of domestic investment plan. I want to come to the Apple example, but just that there is no subbing in for

domestic manufacturing. What are we seeing quite the opposite, actually? From this latest jobs data, it's another month where we're seeing a loss of manufacturing jobs. We're seeing a decline in the industries that actually produce goods. Where's the only source of growth, job growth in the economy right now? It's coming from health care and social assistance. Well, that is not an economic boom. You can't build a whole economy around people getting sick. Now, we have a lot of companies that are making a lot of money off of how sick we might be getting, but that is not enough to sustain the type of growth that we have been seeing for the past few years. And so this was a jobs report that really, I agree with your role, and really started to show in very stark terms.

Because we spotted over the last couple of months some of these indicators is like, okay, jobs are going up, but there's these other indications of like, you know, all is not well with the labor market. But this was very, very clear. One, correcting what the numbers were from the past couple of months to show the reality that, in some cases, we only saw 10,000, you know, between 10 and 20,000 jobs being created per month down from estimates of over 100,000. And, again, that the types of jobs that are being created have nothing to do with the promises that this administration has been making to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. and they've been lying oh manufacturers up it's up like stop it y'all

I love that video of the white man in Montana who was touting he voted for Trump now he's posting video showing that oh yeah dude although your product is made in America the parts that you get come from overseas

as a result boom tariff tax Yeah, and this is the other dynamic that's at play. And so I will, I'll bring it back to the Apple example. Because, you know, so for example, like Trump was raising announced today, he's going to raise the tariffs on India. Well, you know, there's a scenario where you're doing that. And because a company like Apple does manufacture a lot of their products, a lot of the iPhones that many of us might use in India, that is going to change their calculus as a company. Can we continue to afford to manufacture things in India? Is it going to be better for, I'm not saying that that was where they would have landed, that they would move manufacturing immediately back to the U.S., but it would at least force the conversation. What we're actually hearing from these deals is that Apple is going to be subject to a whole different tariff regime, that they're not even necessarily going to have to play by the same rules as every other company in the economy

that might actually have to pay those new higher tariffs if they are manufacturing goods in India. So this is another example of a dynamic that we're seeing from this administration is it's not deals with countries that are bringing our manufacturing back. It's deals between companies and this administration for the administration to get whatever they want and the company to get for whatever they want. So, yes, Apple has made this announcement that they're going to be putting money into U.S. manufacturing, but I don't think anyone's under any illusion that this is a significant change in how Apple is going to be producing a lot of their products, which will continue to, to be almost entirely produced overseas. Bringing my panel here, Andrew, question for Morgan. Yes, Morgan. So how do you see the impact of the terrorists

affecting the long-term growth of the economy as a whole? Here in Washington, D.C., we're seeing a sharp decline. and, well, sharp increase in restaurant prices and a sharp decline in new restaurants opening, how do you see that affecting the overall economy, not just a manufacturer? Yeah, I mean, the way that these tariffs are being done is going to have likely very negative effects on the economy. And to your point, we're already starting to see that. And this is something that we've discussed, you know, over these last couple of months, that small businesses are going to have to attract in particular.

It is just not going to be a time where most businesses are going to feel comfortable making any sort of expansion moves or hiring more people or, oh, we're going to test out this new product. No, because ultimately the cost of whatever new product you're trying have probably gone up. And there is no alternative supply that is going to be cheaper. And so I think we are going to continue. And this was actually one of the really interesting things from last week. Because, you know, I don't know if you saw as Andrew, but I think, was Wednesday or so, a lot of the business press was just like, blow, like, they were so excited,

like, heralding, oh, we've got GDP growth. Everybody said that Trump was taking the economy, but look, GDP is up, so all those people were wrong, you know, kind of at them, we made money, cool. What was really going on there? It was that a lot of companies at the beginning of the administration were bringing in a lot of imports as those imports were going down over the last month or so because of the impacts of tariffs and people not feeling as comfortable bringing goods in from other places, then the way that GDP is calculated, that was almost artificially making it seem like GDP was going up. But it was just because we had this very unusual behavior due to the tariffs and how people were importing. And so it only took one more day after all the

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And I'm hearing from this, from people already in my network, I don't know if you are too, where you try to order something and then you get a response from the business, especially if it's a somewhat smaller business. We just don't have that anymore. We don't know when we're going to have it again because companies are not able to really predict how much longer they're going to be able to produce the goods that they have been able to put together over the last couple of years. Or whether or not that's going to be feasible for them just from a money perspective

based on the increased costs. Tyler? Yes. Thank you again. So they throw on the paper numbers at us, but folks lived experience for many of us tell a different story. As we know, wages are keeping, can't keep up with inflation, housing is unaffordable, medication is unaffordable,

student debt remains crushing. So we can't celebrate these statistics on paper while people are choosing between rent, medicine, and groceries. What does the job reports miss when it comes to black and the younger workforce, and how might the proposed terrorist hike affect working class Americans and particularly black and brown communities? Yeah, great question. I mean, I think this is one of the issues that came up in Trump's response to this job report data is, you know, he decided he wanted to fire the person who leads the agency because he didn't like the numbers, which, you know, that's ridiculous. but there is a real question to be had or a question to be answered over the quality of the data. Is it reflective of businesses in the black community?

Are we getting enough of the indicators of how young people are experiencing what's happening in the economy? There's been a way of collecting this data over a very long period of time. It involves getting survey responses from businesses. And is that going to be enough moving forward to give us an accurate picture of what the economy is looking like? especially in this highly unpredictable environment. I think the answer for a lot of people, whether you're expert or a person out there just observing what's going on, is no, that maybe we do need to think about different ways in which we are tracking what's happening, especially, again, in this environment where we have, it seems

very clear an administration that is not very focused on making sure that we're getting accurate data, and it's just so much volatility. And so, you know, that's where I really encourage all of us to embrace that we are, and to your point, we are the expert in our own experience. We know what we are seeing when we go to the grocery store. We need to be posting about that. We need to be posting about that as we're young people. Well, I'm pointing to you.

I'm like on the borderline, I think of being young. But, you know, young people, business owners, consumers, all of it. It's like we got to get our stories out there because I don't think that we can rely on the government reporting, even if it's not. an environment where we didn't have Trump to be totally accurate, again, just given how unpredictable the policymaking is right now. So we've got to getting out there and making sure that we're telling our own story. Right there, I mean, the bottom line is he fires the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics because he doesn't like the numbers, but he liked

the numbers when they made him look good. And so I don't, I don't. I don't think, I don't see how we can trust any numbers coming out every month because Trump can order them to rig them. Yeah, I mean, now that we've gotten rid of the person who was bipartisan confirmed by the Senate, who was also confirmed by, oh, I don't know, a Senator J.D. Vance, right? Who, like, current vice president pick from Donald Trump himself, he supported the person who was leading this agency with the labor statistics. And so, yeah, I mean, I think you're right, Roland.

last month I was pushing back on you a little bit because, you know, suggesting something funny was going on with the numbers beyond just the normal... I stand by my pushing. Yeah, you were, and I was like, I like, okay, I don't trust these people. I stand by, but I think this is,

but I do think that what just happened, actually, is probably some, so we don't know, we don't know what everything is going on in this administration, of course. But it does seem like, This was evidence that, to your point, whatever was happening before they were cool with, as soon as it went against their way, and these were negative numbers, they're like, oh, we got to get you, we got to get you out of here. And so to me, that actually is somewhat persuasive that what we just saw about July is probably accurate. And they don't know what to do about it. And they don't let it now. It's very clear that it's out there. And so they're just trying to like eliminate what they view as the problem, which is someone who was actually trying to do their job. So, yeah, where we go? Yeah, which is what they're good at.

Oh, let's get rid of the bad news so we can lie to people, and he can keep saying, oh, no, that's right knows, right news. It's great. It's wonderful. It's amazing. It's unbelievable. The greatest number, the biggest number, the biggest number ever. Right.

But here's the point. And this is, you know, this is also why there's sometimes this lag or we have to have these corrections is, yes, there's, you know, the technical survey, science, and blah, blah, blah. But what is this? This is businesses that are reporting what their experience is in the economy. This is households reporting what their experiences in the economy. That is the data that feeds up into these numbers. Turns out what are all of us living out here, either as consumers buying things or as people

working at businesses and as employees getting laid off, hopefully not, but it clearly is happening at a lot of companies right now are running our own business. And so, again, we have to be very, very upfront and loud about what the truth is, what is really going, what are the real economic impacts of all of this insanity that is happening in Washington? And that's for all of us, no matter where you're living, to really show those true stories so that we can counteract all of the hype that undoubtedly they're going to try to be pushing. And that's not based in reality. So the twice impeached criminally convicted conman in Chief Donald Trump goes on CNBC says a bunch of whack crazy outland

this shit. This was the most racist thing he said and national media act like no big deal. Back to their country with a pass back in legally and we're doing things that are that are very difficult to do

and very complex but it works really well. We're sending them back and then they're schooling, they're learning, they're coming in, they're coming in legally. We have a lot of that going on, but we're taking care of our farmers. We can't let our farmers not have anybody, you know, these are very, these people, they're, you can't replace them very easily.

You know, people that live in the inner city are not doing that work. They're just not doing that work. And they've tried, we've tried, everybody tried, they don't do it. These people do it naturally, naturally. I said, what happens if they get it to a farmer the other day? What happens if they get a bad back? He said, they don't get a bad back, sir, because if they get a bad back, they die. I said, that's interesting, isn't it?

You know, these are very, you know, in many ways, they're very, very special people. Okay, go ahead. No, okay. So, I mean, I don't even know where to- Morgan, he sounded like a plantation owner, describing people of African descent who were enslaved. Yeah. I think it's crazy that that interview happened. I mean, let's just like take a step back that the president of the United States is calling in to a morning cable show to give his thoughts an update on the economy. Like that alone, when I first saw that they were tweeting out that that interview was happening the night before, I thought it was a joke. I thought, you know, someone just like created a meme or something. That that was real. That's crazy in and of itself talking about who might be the next president of the

just randomly at 8 a.m. on whatever day of the week that was. But, yeah, he has no respect for the humanity. I mean, to think that people are voluntarily wanting to work these jobs. It's like, no, these are people that have fled wherever they're from, and we're talking about a lot of the agricultural workers. And this is their only means of supporting themselves and their family. And now the reason that many of them are not working is because they are terrified that this administration is going to capture them

and send them to whatever country they decide they want them to go to, regardless of where they may or may not be from, or if they're here legally or not, or if they've committed a crime or not. Crazy. Suggesting that people in the inner city gave a shot, but it didn't work. We know what that's code for, too. So this is, it's so beyond comprehension that this is, again, where we find ourselves as a country dealing with this.

But again, the main point is this guy is not solving problems. He's creating problems, not just for black people, but for these very farmers that he claims he cares so much about, they are not going to be able to sustain these businesses. Talk about, back to Andrew's question, impacts on all of us, farmers can't do their job, food prices go up, it's already happening. People are posting pictures about how much more they're paying from now compared to 2022. It's like, and then add on to all of that, the federal cuts that are happening, the most vulnerable. This is a ticking time bomb.

And it's just a, it really is just a matter of time before it starts to explode for absolutely everybody. Talek, again, basically me, no big deal. Okay, whatever. But that was an absolutely racist comment by racist Donald Trump. Yeah, absolutely, Roland. I think it's no surprise of his comments. And I think he just continues to double down on his rhetoric. And that kind of just speaks to the person that he is and how he thinks about migrant workers.

And also how he thinks about, you know, black workers and working in the fields. And I think, you know, it's just, it's despicable. And we know the occupant we got in office. As you said, on your T-shirt, F around and find out. Andrew I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I don't know how, I don't know how anybody, again, for the folk who think we're just joking, hold up, I'm going to play it again. I want people to actually just listen to the virulent racism in the comment. I mean, they don't injure their backs.

Guys, play it again. Play it again. Back to their country with a pass back in legally, and we're doing things that are very difficult to do and very complex, but it works really well. We're sending them back, and then they're schooling, they're learning, they're coming in, they're coming in legally. We have a lot of that going on, but we're taking care of our farmers. We can't let our farmers not have anybody, you know, these people, you can't replace them

very easily. You know, people that live in the inner city are not doing that work. They're just not doing that work. And they've tried, we've tried, everybody tried. They don't do it. These people do it naturally, naturally. I said, what happens if they get it to a farmer the other day? What happens if they get a bad back? He said, they don't get a bad back, sir, because if they get a bad back, they die. I said, that's interesting, isn't it? You know, these are very, you know, And in many ways, they're very, very special people. Okay, go ahead. No, okay.

Was he suggesting that if they got a bad back, that they would take them out back like a horse and kill them? I mean, that clip, I've heard a lot of clips from Donald Trump, and that clip is the most baffling. And a lot of people are talking about the Epstein files and releasing the Epstein files. But him saying things like this and still being able to remain president

is just so beyond comprehension, Roland. I think we're all just at a loss of words on how to describe the hate that he's spewing in his words for certain types of people. not only just migrant workers, but also black people, referring to the inner cities, right? Because he thinks that all black people live in the inner cities and saying that we tried that with them, and it just didn't work out. I mean, oh, my goodness, that is, that has got to be the top five worst clips I've ever heard from our unfortunate president.

Um, it's crazy. And Morgan, the anchors on NCNBC, oh, okay. All right, sure. What's for lunch? Yeah, I, the fact that they didn't interrupt him should be some kind of journalistic malpractice. And here's the, here's the other main point I would say is, he's like, you know, no one else wants to do these jobs. Why do a lot of farms have to, and by the way, these are, a lot of these aren't like independent, family farms. We're talking about big ag.

We're talking about a lot of big companies. Why do they have to rely on undocumented workers? Because they don't want to pay people a lot, because they don't want to have to give benefits. And so why do a lot more Americans not work their job? Because they're not actually trying to offer good jobs to people, right? And so, you know, he's right about one thing, though. The whole system will crumble without the labor of a lot of immigrants in the agricultural industry. That's about the only thing that he got there.

but the rest of it was just wrapped up in racism and a real disregard for the humanity of millions of people in this country. No, absolutely, absolutely. Morgan, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thanks for having, Roland. All right, folks, we come back.

Trump wants to figure out new ways to make money. Hey, sure, let's charge Africans who are coming into America. I'll explain next. Roland Unfilter on the podcast. Next, on the black table with me, Greg Carl. The United States is the most dangerous place for a woman to give birth among all industrialized nations on the planet. Think about that for a second.

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Now, the State Department says this bond doesn't guarantee visa approval and will be refunded if certain conditions are met. It comes alongside a new $250 visa integrity fee for foreign visitors separate from visa costs. But neither Zambia nor Malawi has high visa overstay rates or travel bans. However, travel to the U.S. is expected to get tougher for many more African countries on this administration. So is that where we are, Andrew? Let's just tax the Africans. Yeah, that is a great way to deter people from coming to the United States if they are of a certain social economic class.

I know there are a lot of wealthy Africans, but there are even more Africans that are not wealthy and cannot afford a $15,000 bond. There are a lot of Americans. that cannot afford a $15,000 bond. So to say that someone coming from a different country needs to pay $15,000 just to fill out applications for the possibility of coming here,

at that point, they might as well just go to England. Tyler? Oh, you're on mute. You're on mute. Tailik, you're on mute. You're on mute. You're talking, but your mute button is on. Tialik, you're on mute.

I'm here. My fault. We ain't here. Nothing you just said. Oh, Lord, see. I think it sends a strong message to the African nations that their citizens are to be treated with suspicion and not respect. back. I think it's a racist, you know, double standard because we don't see this same thing

happening in other European countries. And I don't think it's by coincidence, but I think it's really rooted in outdated colonial thinking that treat African visitors as economic risks rather than global citizens, which they are. And I think this also, it continues to widen the gap between the global South and America. And I think it makes it really tough for diplomacy, especially as we're trying to increase and make the relations better between Africa and America, the African nations in America. Absolutely. All right, folks, I love me, a good town hall. And boy, did that happen in Nebraska with Congressman Mike Flood, and his constituents were not happy with him. They would light him up with questions. Roll the video. Congressman Flood, I come from 11 generations of military citizens who have served this nation. I've seen the long-term effects of service on veterans' health and on well-being.

This budget reconciliation bill that you support threatens to cut all of their benefits and support programs that go along with that. How can you stand behind this bill that erodes the very services that people like me, my family, our families, and younger vets coming home today rely on to live decent, healthy lives. First of all, thank you for your service to the country, and thank you to the generations of service to the country. Please, at my first town hall, I had the opportunity. At the first town hall, the main issue that I took away from that was concerns about veterans' benefits, not only in the proposed bill, but just with the new secretary coming in. I met personally with the veteran secretary.

We went over everything, and I will tell you, our veterans affairs are going to be better than they've been in a long time under this president. The secretary, we sat down for the better part of an hour, and I would have to get my notes from that meeting, but I asked a lot of questions that came from that Columbus town hall. And when the time is right, and I have that in front of me, I will go through that. But I truly believe that, number one, our veterans served our country.

They were made a promise that we will provide their health care. I have a record of supporting, as a member of the legislature, our state veterans' homes, and I have a record in our Congress of supporting veterans. And I will be happy to get more information from the Secretary. If you have specific programs you're concerned about, please reach out to take. and get us that information. Thank you. My question is fiscal. With 450 million FEMA dollars being reallocated to open Alligator Alcatraz

and 600 million taxpayer FEMA dollars being used to now open more concentration camps and ice burning through $8.4 million a day to illegally detain people. How much does it cost for fascism? How much do the taxpayers have to pay? taxpayers have to pay for a fascist country. Americans went to the polls in November, and they had a choice between a Democratic candidate that had an open border, no enforcement, fentanyl, drugs, human trafficking.

human trafficking. And they had a choice between that and a candidate that said, close the border, get illegal immigrants out of our country, stop the fentanyl, stop the human trafficking, stop the drugs, stop the crime, stop the violence. That's what Americans voted for. Americans voted for a border that is secure. And I support the President enforcing our immigration

laws which by the way were written by Congress so how can you justify taking health care away from 78,000 Nebraska's as I explained before when you have an additional 700 million dollars coming into the state of Nebraska for Nebraska hospitals we have a state where our infrastructure is going to be supported, is going to be funded, and is going to be available for the people that need it. If you are able to work and you're 28 years old and you choose not to work, you don't get free health care in America. If you are in this country illegally, you do not get free health care in America.

saying that silence is complicity. Your silence tells us that you have no problem with the January 6th attack on the Capitol. The pardoning of all those involved, the big lie about the 2020 election with absolutely no evidence. These are all markers These are markers of fascism.

I have read a dozen or so books on authoritarianism and fascism. You said in Seward that you were not a fascist. Your complicity says otherwise. Have you ever spoken out against this administration and it's Project 2025, which is a fascist machine? Have you ever spoken out? There are a number of people, it's been reported many times in the news, that there are a number of your our colleagues, Republican colleagues, who do not like this man and they speak against him

behind closed doors in private. Maybe you're one of them. There is a thing, profiles and courage. Why don't any of you because you know better? What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Sarah, I want to be very clear with you. Give me a chance to answer his question.

I'd be happy with you. Fascists don't hold town halls with open question and answer series. And I will tell you this, I support law enforcement. And what happened on January 6th, 2021 was not right, and I'm on the record saying so. I'm sure you can Google it. But here's, I support law enforcement. I have prided myself on supporting law enforcement since I began as a member of the Judiciary Committee in 2005. And we started working on child sexual assault.

started working on the sex offender registry. We started working on all of these different DWI laws to make our streets safer. I believe in law enforcement. I believe in the rule of law. I believe in the rule of law. It matters to me. We have a lot of people. We have a lot of people that need to know when I see something that I don't agree with, I don't run to the TV station is my first stop. I try to stop it before it gets worse. I try to stop. I try to stop. I stand up and go to work to represent the people that I have in this district. And sir, I believe in law enforcement. Thank you.

I believe in fair taxation, but I disagree with personally benefiting at the expense of lower income Nebraska's citizens. Trump is a pathological liar and citizens can't believe a word that comes from the convicted felon's mouth. Keeping Nebraska in mind, what actions are you going to support or initiate that provide health care and food assistance for low-income families, protect Medicare, not increase the national debt, unmasked the ICE terrorists, clothes, alligator out-a-switch, and impeach Trump, if he pardons, Galane Maxwell.

We protected Medicaid and saved taxpayers millions of dollars from waste, fraud, and abuse. This program, over the long term, will spend way too much money that we cannot afford if we don't protect it for those that need it. There are vulnerable people that need Medicaid. There are pregnant women that need Medicaid. There are folks that need to be in a nursing home that need Medicaid. We need to figure out how to keep more people in their home receiving care because we can't afford everybody going to the nursing home. So, sir, we, in my opinion, as your representative, with the $700 million coming into the state,

the $50 billion rural hospital fund that we worked on, and the common sense protections of requiring people to work if they want free health care, and no illegal immigrants getting health care for free, I think that's entirely reasonable. Yes, how are farmers supposed to survive as a result of this budget bill? Well, I'll tell you what, and I actually had this number right here. We actually, and it was in one of my slides, one year ago, almost to this day, we were at the State Chamber flying,

and I was the first in our congressional delegation to sound the alarm about the farm economy. I've been talking to community bankers across this state that are worried that a lot of our producers with corn at $3.80 a bushel and soybeans down from what they should be and higher inputs are going to have trouble making their payments. And I started talking to local bankers about what this year's operational notes renewal would be. We made it. We made it through that. Oh, actually, that's not true. I'll talk to you about that in a second. In December, we provided $10 billion in economic aid to America's farmers, mostly for the American Southeast, Georgia, Mississippi, those states.

I tell you what, though, I am worried about next year for our farmers and ranchers. I am worried about it. And let me tell you a couple of things that we did do. We put an additional, we put a $59 billion increase for the Ag Safety Net programs, which is a $9 billion increase over the prior fiscal year. And you're not going to like this next part, some of you. But President Biden did no trade deals in four years. He did not stand up for Nebraska farmers when it came to white corn

and the ban from the Mexican president's wife. Farmers and ranchers in this state are going to get a far better deal from Donald Trump's trade negotiations than we ever. ever got under President Biden. And this is the only way to improve our chances to grow our farm income. What specific action are you taking to defund or continued support to Israel and their aggressions on the best bank and genio side against Palestine's living in Gaza? I have said from the start, what happened on October 8th was an abomination.

I support Israel. America has no better ally than Israel, and they have every right to root out Hamas and these evil terrorists, whether they're in Gaza, whether it's Hezbollah, whether it's the Houthis, whether it's the Iranians. They live under threat of nuclear and vicious attack every single day. I also believe that our country, working with Israel, needs to do everything we can to get those children food. No American wants any child, no matter the place they live, to ever suffer. But you've got to remember, we're dealing with Hamas. They use these Palestinians as human shields in their pursuit of terror and destruction against Israelis. So I support Israel.

I support Israel. I support Israel. I support Israel. Yes, first of all, I'd ask you, please, not to refer it to that monstrosity is the big, beautiful bill. Have you ever looked at a piece of abstract art or music or poetry and thought, that's just a bunch of pretentious nonsense? Well, that's exactly what two bored Australian soldiers set out to prove during World War II. When they pulled off what was either a bold literary hoax or a grand poetic experiment, publishing over a dozen intentionally bad but highly acclaimed works of expressionist poetry under the name Earn Malley. in an incident that caused a media firestorm and even a criminal trial.

The Earned Malley episode made fools of believers and critics alike and still fascinates poetry lovers to this day. We break down the truth, the lies, and the poetry in between on hoax, a new podcast hosted by me, Lizzie Logan, and me, Dana Schwartz. Every episode, hoax explores an audacious fraud or ruse from history from forged artworks to the original fake news to try and answer why we believe. Listen to Hoax on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Stuff You Should Know guys have made their own summer playlist of their must listen podcasts on movies.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The name of the bill, though. We know better. We know better. My question concerns veterans. Again, I asked you in March about cuts for veterans. cuts that will hurt veterans. I didn't really find your answer to the gentleman earlier adequate.

How are cuts to the VA going to improve VA services? Also, what about the thousands of veterans who have lost their federal positions? And what about how that big, ugly bill, let me finish, how about how that big ugly bill is going to disproportionately affect veterans who need SNAP and other benefits? Finally, what about the veterans who are seeing family members who have done no criminal, nothing wrong, being picked up by masked ice agents? Okay, so, first of all, my question is this. When are you going to stand up? The bill is actually called the one big, beautiful bill, and I'm not going to tiptoe around what the answers are, because that's the bill to pass.

And when President Biden passed the Inflation Reduction Act, that's what we called it, even though it did. opposite. As it relates to the VA cuts, what are you specific, what specific cut are you talking about so I can understand? Give me a specific example. It is specifically general cuts in the VA's overall budget. I want to know when are you going to stand up to the bullion chief? And he is disrespectful, un-American, cruel cuts that hurt our veterans. This issue, this issue came up in Columbus in May and I went to the Veterans Secretary and the system

when we're done will be better for veterans, it will be more efficient and will have better services. I am confident of that. You cannot cite a specific program because I went to him specifically and said show me where these cuts are. We went through it. I've got the data. I've got

the notes. I've got all the information I need. And I will be very public about showing you what is happening with veterans as soon as I get the opportunity to avail myself of my notes, but I am very confident, President Trump, this Congress, the Veterans Administration, we are working hard for veterans, and we will deliver for veterans. We are protecting veterans, we are protecting Medicaid, we are getting results, and we are pursuing growth. That is what's happening right now. Protection, results, and growth. Thank you.

Well, that boy was lying and you said he would lighten his ass up. Here is Congress and Don Bacon on CNN laying out how the economy in Nebraska is screwed because of Donald Trump. And I would just say from my vantage point here in Nebraska, we're seeing a bit of a troubled economic mess or right now it's a troubled time. And I'll say in Nebraska, the GDP here has decreased by 6% over the last year. And it's all about trade. It's all about getting corn and soybeans out the door.

So what I hear with, you know, a weak job numbers, we're sort of seeing that in Nebraska right now. So isn't that quite interesting, Tyler? Here you have Don Bacon, Carson, Don Bacon, representing Omaha, admitting they're screwed. The governor previously called Donald Trump. because guess what? Those ICE arrests were taking all of those migrant workers out of Nebraska. Those farmers getting screwed.

Oh, by the way, Nebraska voted for Trump. Just like Las Vegas is a ghost town, they are down huge numbers because a lot of those international tourists ain't coming. Nevada, you also FAAFO because y'all voted for Trump as well. They're getting what they deserve because they're, I'm sorry, they're getting what they voted for. Absolutely. I just said, F around, you find out. I think the backlash in Nebraska remind us that even in deep-breds communities that they're just, they're not monolithic

and they're waking up to the extremist in hypocrisy that they're seeing from far-right politics. I don't think this just wasn't about, you know, disagreeing with policy on many issues that I totally agree with them. I'm glad they brought up what's happening in Gaza and how children are starving. But it's about, you know, standing up for our communities and standing up and saying enough is enough to the politics that don't agree with our basic needs. And I think when we see moments like this

where voters disrupt the status quo, it signals a hope that the tide is shifting and is shifting towards accountability and real representation because we don't see that happening in Washington today. And we're seeing that people aren't afraid to challenge power face to face. And I think that's a powerful sign of a democratic engagement.

And I hope that it, that it lies in this, you know, continues in this cycle of resistance. And I think it's a good sign. It's a good sign that conservatives are reaching their breaking point. But my hope is that when the ballot box comes about in midterm elections that we can see a tie where we can see our true values be reflected in Congress. Andrew. Andrew. Roland, you have been working hard,

and it seems like the tide is changing. When I see people with U.S. Army hats on yelling at their Republican leaders that they elected into office about the policies that are now starting to affect them in their neighborhood. Because when they elected these people, they didn't think that it was going to. to affect them. They thought it was just going to affect people that look like us. Now it's starting to hit home. Now, these farmers are starting to see the issues out in Nebraska now. Now, they're affected. Now, when I see this, that tells me that 2026, I'm hoping, and I love that you're shedding light on this because I think 2026 that we're going to see a change. There's way too

much happening, and it's not just about minorities that are being affected. It is all Americans now. And I think that we all need to be banning together to affect change and bring in some new leadership. I mean, the one lady had a shirt on that said, go fat to yourself. That's how upset she is, that she went online to buy that shirt, knowing that she's going on this town hall to talk to to representative flood. So the tide is changing, and I'm very happy to see this. And it's a kudos to the hard work

that people just like you, Roland, are doing. So thank you so much day in and day out for fighting the system. And we have a long road ahead of us, but a clip like that shows that even in a place like Nebraska, which we felt like we had no shot in, that in 26, I feel like the tide is going to be changing. people are fed up.

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